[00:56] why do you need switchable ctrl / caps lock? just make whatever OS you are using do that. [00:56] i can't even use computers with kb that don't capslock as ctrl anymore :( [01:00] jrwren: I was wondering about chromeos [01:00] I don't know if it has a method to change that mapping for ctrl-t and w and such for opening/closing tabs [01:02] cmaloney: yeah, we're monitoring it. might hang around australia for a bit waiting for things to calm down [01:05] *gasp* [01:05] could be a show stopper for me on chromeos [01:06] waf: Hope you all stay safe [01:07] thanks [01:07] rick_h_: https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/177875?hl=en [01:08] mrgoodcat: right, I was just explaining to jrwren why I cared [01:08] ah [01:08] i really ought to make bookiebot handle netsplits better [01:08] currently just times out and quits [01:16] they're slowly adding functionality to chromeos that "full" operating systems have [01:16] the little things like screenshots and remapping [01:22] rick_h_: just went to my keyboard settings and remapped my keys. not only can you remap the meta keys, but there is an option to use the media keys as f keys like they are in ubuntu (a major pain point for me in chrome os) [01:22] http://imgur.com/Rk23mmo [01:22] http://goo.gl/uJGjOf - imgur: the simple image sharer [01:23] mrgoodcat: coolio [02:51] bourbon chocolate sauce [02:51] mmmmmm [13:05] party party [13:06] thief! [13:06] partly party [13:07] immitation is flatery. [13:12] Portly Patty pooted prettily past Patrick's potty party. [13:13] i do'n't know that I've ever heard that one [13:18] I just made it up [13:19] potty party? [13:21] mrgoodcat: Interested? [13:41] whoa, more reason to ddg http://www.metafilter.com/139305/The-Mother-of-All-Self-Links [13:41] http://goo.gl/PcQiEu - The Mother of All Self Links? | MetaFilter [13:48] What exactly does Metafilter do? [13:48] I've never quite understood that site. [13:49] should just go home now instead of at lunch [13:50] "google is breaking the internet" seems like a bit of a dramatic title... [13:50] Well, it's breaking Metafilter. [13:50] sorry your business model revolved around the support of a company that has exactly zero financial interest in you [13:50] so they have a vested self-interest [13:52] metafilter is like fark/dig or a poor-man's reddit [13:52] digg? [13:55] So basically a community of folks that post links to stuff on the internet. [13:56] yes [13:57] But with a website theme right from 1998 [14:01] i never understood metafilter either. [14:06] it's pretty much exactly the kind of thing that the google updates are trying to stop [14:06] also ebay. glad something is being done about ebayspam [14:09] ebayspam? [14:10] seems like every time i search for anything, multiple google results will be ebayers trying to sell me that thing [14:11] here's the link to the article if you haven't seen it http://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2014/05/21/panda-4 [14:12] http://goo.gl/RSVg9N - Panda 4.0: Why eBay Just Lost 80% of its Organic Rankings | WordStream [14:12] also, the google results you get that point to ebay are usually crap [14:12] it's not even useful if i'm trying to find something on ebay [14:40] eBay has gone into the shitter anyway [14:41] yea. the organic links to ebay ALL suck. the prices aren't great anymore. buyers hate it. sellers hate it. [14:42] I used to sell on eBay. I just closed my account yesterday [14:42] I know other folks who routinely post stuff on eBay and have constantly bitched about how they screw sellers. [14:42] frankly I find the whole thing a race to the bottom. [14:44] i find when i sell used stuff i have the best luck just selling to friends [14:45] i probably sell for less money but i get to feel like i gave someone i know a deal and i know i'm not going to get shanked like craigslist deals [14:48] Yeah, I've never used, nor do I plan on using Craigslist [14:51] I have used it twice and it went well both times :P [14:52] But then I don't live in The D [14:53] brousch_: Right, but we're not trolling the "missed connections" portions. :) [14:53] you: running away screaming "help, please get this creep away from me". [14:53] me: madly in love. [14:53] Call me. [14:55] I got my son's drum set for $60 on Craigslist :P [14:56] So we've accounted for both times. :) [15:00] craigslist isn't inherently bad. just sometimes can be kinda shady [15:00] craigslist deals gone wrong are pretty commonplace in the news [15:01] also brousch_ :< Detroit is fine you be nice [15:02] i imagine every Craigslist deal in Detroit involves guns and a posse [15:14] .np squeekyhoho [15:14] squeekyhoho's current track - Liquid Fire by Gojira on L'Enfant Sauvage [15:14] * cmaloney fucking loves this album [15:45] anybody use the new beta.congress.gov? [15:57] holy https://www.privacyinternational.org/blog/what-does-gchq-know-about-our-devices-that-we-dont [15:57] http://goo.gl/2aKBz2 - What does GCHQ know about our devices that we don't? | Privacy International [15:58] yea i saw that yesterday. it kind of scared me [15:58] like why the hell would they care about keyboard controllers? [15:58] could it be something innocuous like a buffer that doesn't get flushed immediately? [16:00] its related to aliens. [16:01] you see, aliens can read the historical contents of larger transistors like ones used in KB controllers. [16:01] Or the "take no chances" mentality [16:01] foreign governments have been working with the aliens to obtain data from large transistor keybaord controllers [16:01] though in this day and age I'm sure it's because there's some buffering going on [16:02] i'm sure it's buffering related to regular use [16:02] that could potentially be used to store the data even if the hard drives are changed out [16:02] "technically possible" [16:11] for all the privacy nuts out there https://www.eff.org/privacybadger [16:11] http://goo.gl/AJEihN - Privacy Badger | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:12] I'm going with jrwren's analysis. [16:12] heh [16:36] Man HP must be a huge company if they can axe 16,000 folks: http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/05/hp-axes-up-to-16000-more-jobs/ [16:36] http://goo.gl/DQG9r7 - HP axes up to 16,000 more jobs | Ars Technica [16:37] linkedin just says "10,000+" [16:38] oh wait, no, LinkedIn itself knows of "258,279 Employees on LinkedIn" [16:38] the first was just the category it was placed in [16:38] Probably added 16,000 today. [16:39] http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/05/hp-axes-up-to-16000-more-jobs/?comments=1&post=26900123 [16:39] http://goo.gl/nHtdqo - HP axes up to 16,000 more jobs | Ars Technica [16:41] does bookiebot automatically add urls from this channel to a bmark.us bookiebot account? [16:41] that'd be neat [16:41] one of the tags would be the username of the person who pasted it [16:41] ruh roh, new feature on the way [16:41] :) [16:51] jcastro: did you ever publish those ES and LS charms? [16:56] yeah but they're not in the official store [16:56] there's one bug left for ES [16:57] with a relation, but I have a dude working on it [16:57] logstash is fine though, so is kibana [16:57] for LS, do you run ES and LS on same node? [16:57] no [16:57] you can if you want though [16:58] heh, we were just talking about finally upgrading our Logstash ES cluster to 1.1.0 today :) [16:58] huh, i'm trying 1.3.3 here [16:58] (and today they releasesed 1.2.0) [16:58] oh, that is LS [16:58] ES is 1.0.3 [16:58] lame [16:58] I need newer [16:58] :) [16:58] at least you're over 1.0 [16:58] i'm not running it AT ALL [16:58] cuz it doesn't work. [16:58] cuz... its really shitty software [16:59] oh, well in that case [16:59] but, I want to believe. [16:59] well, not really I don't want to. [16:59] cuz, jabba [16:59] which is? ES or LS or all of it? [16:59] all of it. [16:59] all good search is jabba really [16:59] there is no escape [16:59] yeah [16:59] spews b.s. zen.ping.unicast nonsense to logs [16:59] we moved all of our search to ES. All of it. [17:00] honestly, I'd rather port kibana to postgresql :p [17:00] jrwren, the current charm in the store works [17:00] it's just not the fancy ansible-based one [17:00] which is sexu [17:01] imma try ES 1.2.x and LS 1.4.x [17:01] i haven't looked at this since March [17:03] I'll have the hadoop-es plugin in a few weeks too [17:11] jcastro lubs jabba :p [17:12] heh, companies lubba lubba jabba [17:14] truth [17:15] companies lubba lubba existing software. The sad part is that there so so much jabba software existing :) [17:16] jcastro: any reason those charms pull jars themselves instead of using packages.elasticsearch.org ? [17:16] yep [17:16] yeah? [17:16] I don't think packages existed at the time [17:17] old school [17:18] the new one does [17:18] cool [17:18] imma find this new one... someday [17:20] ?> [17:37] jrwren, sorry, here it is http://manage.jujucharms.com/~michael.nelson/precise/elasticsearch [17:37] http://goo.gl/H4QZYI - Juju Charms [17:40] lp:~michael.nelson/charms/precise/elasticsearch/trunk YAY! [17:43] that's the one with a relationship/peering bug though [17:44] but it will replace the charm in the store soonish [17:45] the charm installs ansible? [17:46] man, you have to be guru to know juju :p [17:46] ansible's doing a bunch of heavy lifting already [17:47] so might as well reuse it [17:47] makes sense [17:47] .reload [17:47] reloaded 26 plugins in 0.010538 seconds [17:47] same thing if it was chef or puppet [17:47] new feature incoming [17:48] still, how much do you use ansible? should it be in juju or in ansible? is juju just built on ansible? it has a strange feeling to it. [17:48] juju executes whatever you want [17:49] indeed. [17:49] so however you cobble it together is fine with us [17:49] that is true of anything that exposes an exec call :p [17:49] for a bunch of people, if they have config management systems already [17:49] then they can just add juju for orchestration [17:49] without throwing away years of cookbooks or whatever they have [17:50] ansible is lightweight and powerful, our webops guys like it [17:50] do that for machine stuff, juju for orchestration, it's a nice combo [17:57] OK, this is in the "Vim gives you superpowers" category. [17:58] -V and select a boxed area. Hit [c] and type what you want changed. [17:58] Each record in that boxed area will be changed. [17:58] Even the basics of vim can feel like magic. [18:02] What's even better is I was using Alembic which already gives you superpowers [18:02] so it's like superpower superpowers with a side of super [18:20] if i had a macbook... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00686OWEU/?tag=047-20 [18:20] http://goo.gl/yhNPT - Amazon.com: Sub Zero Macbook Decal Mac Apple skin sticker: Everything Else [18:23] mrgoodcat: Have your seen the skins for c720? [18:23] no are there good ones? [18:25] http://www.decalgirl.com/skins/Acer-Chromebook-C720-Skins [18:25] http://goo.gl/qHfCcQ - Acer Chromebook C720 Skins | DecalGirl [18:27] some of those look pretty cool [18:27] might have to try [18:27] except i have stickers already [18:27] Hah, I like that sub zero one [18:27] though I'd rather have Ken from Street Fighter. [18:28] I bookmarked this one as a present for my son http://www.decalgirl.com/artwork/5234/Acer-Chromebook-C720-Skin-Animal-Face [18:28] http://goo.gl/mm2GmC - Animal Face by The Muppets | DecalGirl [18:28] brousch_: That's awesome. [18:29] Though wish they integrated more with the chrome ball [18:30] i have some stickers already though [18:30] not sure i want them covered [18:30] Also wonder how many of these are "licensed" or are they just wallpaper rips. [18:30] I'm seeing a lot of Disney stuff on here. [18:31] They're usually pretty protective of their IP [18:31] i like the black ones [18:31] http://www.decalgirl.com/brands/Tron-Legacy [18:31] http://goo.gl/ShjdmC - Tron | DecalGirl [18:31] my smell-test just went off. [18:31] I would so get these [18:32] I need a new laptop to junk up though. :) [18:33] my chromebook is becoming my favorite [18:33] need to get another one to put ubuntu on [18:34] jcastro: What Chromebook? [18:34] acer C720 [18:37] 4GB? [18:44] i wish mine was 4 [18:45] wuss [18:45] cmaloney: it has the disney copyright symbol on it. makes me think its probably licensed [18:45] wuss? [18:45] mine is 2 and seems to do alright. just wish it was upgradeable [18:46] i haven't run into any ram issues yet [18:47] Then you're not pushing it hard enough! [23:54] So quite here today. Someone, make some noise!