[00:00] <sendak> Does dpkg not have the similar capability as rpm?
[00:01] <sendak> I want to find which package has the source code for a binary command.
[00:01] <xbox> doido
[00:01] <xbox> doido
[00:01] <SchrodingersScat> sendak: dpkg-query ?
[00:01] <xbox> tem alguem ai
[00:01] <xbox> fuck you
[00:01] <rww> ubottu: pt | xbox
[00:01] <rww> and be nice, thanks :)
[00:02] <trndr> OerHeks, alami pasted this log some time ago http://pastie.org/9200589
[00:02] <xbox> fuck you
[00:02] <trndr> *history dump
[00:03] <dw1> sendak: might help: http://nicholaskuechler.com/2011/02/10/debian-ubuntu-equivalents-of-yum-whatprovides/
[00:03] <jcstarken> does any one now how to get websites to see firefox or chrome as if they where ie, and I am not going to install wine
[00:03] <SchrodingersScat> jcstarken: like a user-agent that matches IE? there's probably many add-ons for that
[00:04] <OerHeks> user agent plugin/addon indeed
[00:04] <jcstarken> SchrodingerScat: I tried the one for firefox and could not get it to work
[00:04] <SchrodingersScat> it's built into curl and wget though, shows you the superior tool
[00:05] <sendak> SchrodingersScat: dpkg-query sounds similar.
[00:05] <SchrodingersScat> jcstarken: hmm, define 'work' was your user agent not different? Or just didn't get the desired results from your webpage?
[00:06] <SchrodingersScat> jcstarken: if they look at more than useragent, like all data that's leaked by browser, you might need to cover more.
[00:06] <jcstarken> SchrodingerScat: still could not get in the website
[00:06] <jcstarken> SchrodingerScat: I will keep looking thank you
[00:09] <EiGhTy3> any way disable keyboard page that comes up on boot?
[00:10] <trndr> EiGhTy3, as in disable grub-menu?
[00:13] <kingbeowolf> when i use the binary driver for my computer one of my monitors isn't recognized
[00:13] <kingbeowolf> it just blinks rainbow colors
[00:13] <kingbeowolf> its an nvidia 630
[00:18] <EiGhTy3> trndr, no it comes up as desktop loads.
[00:18] <EiGhTy3> it shows shortcuts, etc...
[00:18] <EiGhTy3> key layout
[00:19] <EiGhTy3> i'm new trying 2 explain this hope u understaind
[00:19] <EiGhTy3> stand*
[00:20] <EiGhTy3> :)
[00:20] <trndr> EiGhTy3, ahh that thing, thought it only showed first time 14.04 booted, have'nt rebooted since upgrade.
[00:20] <EiGhTy3> trndr, yes i have maybe 6-7 times
[00:21] <EiGhTy3> odd thing is
[00:21] <EiGhTy3> outta 6-7 times came up maybe 4
[00:21] <EiGhTy3> kinda annoying but not a big deal
[00:22] <EiGhTy3> so it should go away? huh i wonder
[00:23] <trndr> I don't know, but there appears to be a hints overlay option in ccsm unity
[00:24] <EiGhTy3> hey ty will look
[00:25] <EiGhTy3> like i said not big deal
[00:25] <EiGhTy3> jus curious
[00:25] <dequeued> I'm on Ubuntu 14, what's the best way to install Firefox 26?
[00:25] <trndr> yea, i'm just sitting here hoping I won't see the thing again, but I can't be bothered rebooting
[00:25] <jcstarken> play on linux or wine I do not really want either but need to have ie for work
[00:26] <dequeued> I was going to download the binary from mozilla.org
[00:26] <oni7> anyone use chntpw?
[00:26] <oni7> i am trying to get it to work on a VM for testing but it doesn't clear the password out
[00:27] <trndr> jcstarken, send a nasty email to the site maintainer ;)
[00:28] <jcstarken> trndr:lol I wish I could but it is TxDot and they listen to no one
[00:30] <trndr> I would use play on linux in stead of just flat wine, it was less frustrating last time i attempted to run dos programs in linux
[00:31] <jcstarken> trndr:ok I will give it a try thank you
[00:32] <trndr> np, and good luck
[00:32] <sendak> Why does trying to pull grub-common pull grub instead is the grub-common package inside the grub package?
[00:33] <sendak> trndr: good luck, playing a game?
[00:33] <sendak> trndr: What is the game?
[00:34] <trndr> sendak, jcstarken is going to run IE in linux, he might need some luck
[00:34] <sendak> mosaic
[00:34] <jcstarken> trndr:to true
[00:35] <sendak> Where does luck come into play?
[00:35] <sendak> jcstarken: Why run it on linux?
[00:36] <jcstarken> sendak: for work when I am at home and did not bring company laptop home and there are no winbloze machines in my house
[00:37] <sendak> Is Kevin on channel?
[00:38] <sendak> jcstarken: What is winbloze?
[00:38] <Iamalinuxnoob> HELLO!
[00:39] <jcstarken> sendak: micro soft operating system "Windows" I misspelled it
[00:39] <_Gnoob_> Hello
[00:39] <sendak> Doesn't wine come with IE?
[00:39] <Iamalinuxnoob> I would appreciate assistance with setting up a new usb wireless adapter and disabling my old one if someone is able to assist me on it. It looks like my wireless adapter came with some linux drivers I just dont know how to run the .sh file
[00:40] <jcstarken> I dont know I have not used it till now I have had now reason to
[00:40] <Iamalinuxnoob> I havent seen IE in my wine but I could be wrong
[00:41] <Iamalinuxnoob> How do I run an .sh file?
[00:42] <Iamalinuxnoob> do I just point terminal to the file?
[00:42] <trndr> chmod +x first
[00:42] <Iamalinuxnoob> chmod +x  path/to/file.sh   ?
[00:43] <colinshen> hi...my usb headphone can not hear anything,but the controller can adjust value...
[00:43] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, yes, then run the file
[00:44] <Iamalinuxnoob> Thank you sir :D I hope this works I have been having extreme difficulty with my wifi for the past 2 weeks in linux -_-
[00:44] <sendak> Why does trying to pull grub-common pull grub instead is the grub-common package inside the grub package?
[00:45] <Iamalinuxnoob> it said something about it being read only, should I copy it to my HD first Trndr?
[00:46] <Iamalinuxnoob> I will just do that trndr then ask again if it doesnt work xD
[00:46] <sendak> Why does trying to pull grub-common pull grub instead is the grub-common package inside the grub package?
[00:48] <trism> sendak: if you mean pull the source, grub-common is a binary package, grub2 is the source: apt-cache show grub-common; see the Source: attribute
[00:49] <Iamalinuxnoob> if I am running the install.sh should anything come up after I hit enter to run it?
[00:49] <sendak> THey are screwing with the FM signals again.
[00:50] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, most likely. can you give a link to where you found the driver?
[00:50] <sendak> trism: What about the attribute?
[00:50] <Iamalinuxnoob> I got the driver from the install disc of the USB wireless adapter
[00:51] <trism> sendak: the Source attribute tells you the source package for a binary package
[00:51] <Iamalinuxnoob> oh maybe If I copy it over it messes with the script trndr
[00:51] <Iamalinuxnoob> I will try again :D
[00:51] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, what device is it? perhaps I can find the driver on the web
[00:51] <sendak> They are fucking with the FM transmitters.
[00:53] <sendak> trism: Where is the attribute shown?
[00:53] <sendak> trism: stop hiding the sourcecode
[00:54] <trism> sendak: apt-cache show package; if one isn't listed then the source and the binary package have the same name
[00:54] <Iamalinuxnoob> Rosewill RNX-MiniN2 trndr. it popped up right away as an option for my wireless to use but didnt work once I "connected" to router (before I went to look on CD for the drivers) I am hoping if I install the drivers and disable my other wifi adapter it will work
[00:54] <sendak> dpkg-query -S filename said grub-common
[00:54] <trism> sendak: that is the binary package, the source package grub2 generates grub-common, plus other packages
[00:54] <sendak> well it showed it
[00:55] <sendak> trism: Where is the source within that for grub-common?
[00:56] <sendak> trism: is it possible to make a small modification or is it all intertwined to compile everything
[00:58] <trism> sendak: yeah you'll probably have to rebuild all of them if you want to rebuild grub-common
[00:59] <henry-> I'm trying to remotely reboot a laptop through ssh, it works when the laptop lid is up, but not when it's down
[01:00] <xup> where's klogd?
[01:04] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, there should be 2 linux drivers for that wifi adapter, the newer one might work for you. What you need to do is extract the entire zip to disk, then chmod the install.sh and run it. It will at least say something about instalation script.
[01:04] <henry-> (the laptop reboots but goes instantly to hibernation)
[01:04] <roy_> for give me I am here by mistake I think.
[01:05] <Iamalinuxnoob> ahh ok  thanks trndr.  Looks like the people that made this were not english so the readme's and such were no good. I have a tar.gz file is that what i need to extract?
[01:05] <roy_> new at this ..by for now
[01:05] <trndr> not if the readme is outside it. then you need to copy that entire directory
[01:06] <Iamalinuxnoob> ahh ok thanks
[01:07] <arooni-mobile> hey folks;  i have an android 4.4.2 phone; is there a way to connect it to ubuntu 14.04?
[01:07] <trndr> henry-, check under systemsettings power
[01:09] <henry-> I've set the lid close options to ignore the event, but I think those settings don't load soon enough in the reboot process
[01:11] <Sachiru> Is it possible to use Ubuntu and Samba4 to completely replace a Windows Server administering Active Directory on a network?
[01:21] <Starduster> ticker --market all
[01:21] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr - should I try using this? https://github.com/dz0ny/rt8192cu
[01:26] <Iamalinuxnoob> Wow my net is like 1/10 of the speed it should be on Linux D: hopefully this fixes it ^_^
[01:28] <Ashima> i want to install ubuntu onto my new windows 8.1 computer, can you help?
[01:30] <abak> Ashima, what do you need help with?
[01:35] <Ashima> does it install any differently?
[01:35] <Iamalinuxnoob> Hey, what is that thing that lets me see what devices are on wlan? wconfig or something?
[01:36] <abak> Ashima, differently from what? from windows?
[01:36] <trndr> iwconfig and ifconfig
[01:38] <Ashima> anything differently as in setting BIOS to change from windows 8.1
[01:39] <abak> IME you won't need to mess with the BIOS, Ubuntu comes with GRUB which allows you to choose between windows and linux at startup
[01:40] <abak> However, since you have windows 8.1 you MIGHT have a secure boot which can make things a bit hairy, maybe somebody else here has first hand excperience with it?
[01:40] <catsdj> hola soy de chi;e
[01:40] <catsdj> chile
[01:41] <Iamalinuxnoob> Question- How do I tell which internet adapter is which if I have a USB one and a PCI one? Also will wnat to disable the PCI one
[01:44] <Ashima> thank you
[01:45] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, I would unplug the usb one, then run sudo ifconfig device down on the remaining then replugging the usb one
[01:46] <Iamalinuxnoob> Thanks trndr I will do that :D so just do sudo ifdown wlan0 ? (figured out wlan0 is the integrated)
[01:47] <limpc> hiya
[01:47] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, yes, keep in mind that should only be temporary
[01:49] <limpc> i just did a fresh reinstall of xubuntu a few days ago and have been having a major problem with it since.  whenever it locks the screen,  and I want to return to my desktop, I get the password dialog immediately, but after entering my password and the lock screen disappears, the entire desktop acts frozen for a very long time (sometimes up to several minutes)
[01:49] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr when I ran "sudo ifdown wlan0"   it said  "ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured"
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Ashima: Have you prepared a install medium for ubuntu ? You can pastbin the hard disk layout and we can offer better advisement on a method to install ubuntu.
[01:52] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, don't know why ifdown dosen't work, but ifconfig wlan0 down worked for me
[01:58] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr I was able to have it go down with ifconfig but apparently this USB one is not working or cannot connect let me try something and see if it helps quick. (just gonna do the ifconfig up thing to wlan1)
[02:02] <Iamalinuxnoob> Dang it.   it is not connecting to network properly. Idk why the desktop keeps having these issues when my laptop I am using now works fine
[02:05] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, could you try to replug the usb adapter and pastebin dmesg|tail ?
[02:06] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr should I do the ifconfig down again to wlan0 ?  I put it back up to see if it worked
[02:06] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, naa, it shouldn't clutter the log
[02:11] <Ashima> Bashing-om: not yet
[02:13] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr how do I get all of it? my terminal doesnt go back all the way to before i did dmesg tail
[02:14] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, dmesg | tail should only be 10 lines
[02:15] <Bashing-om> Ashima: Ya got any ieas of how to procedd ? .. Dual booting with Windows 8 is a whole new ball game.
[02:15] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr I can look but it said something about retrying.  what is that middle character? I dont know how to do the line in the middle you did
[02:17] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr I typed " dmesg tail"
[02:17] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, what keyboard layout are you using? The | character is quite important in linux. So locating it is key
[02:18] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr I am using a normal Qwerty keyboard
[02:19] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, no I mean language, they move it arround depending on language
[02:20] <INeverMore> how do I fix a broken ubuntu install?
[02:20] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr ahh I am using US keyboard layout afaik. sorry i forgot about the install option so was confused xD
[02:21] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: Depends, how it is broke, and what is broke. details please.
[02:21] <INeverMore> I turn it on and nothing happens
[02:22] <limpc> i just did a fresh reinstall of xubuntu a few days ago and have been having a major problem with it since.  whenever it locks the screen,  and I want to return to my desktop, I get the password dialog immediately, but after entering my password and the lock screen disappears, the entire desktop acts frozen for a very long time (sometimes up to several minutes)
[02:22] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, on US keyboards it appears to be at shift+\
[02:22] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: so far sounds more like hardware issue, rather than an ubuntu situation.
[02:24] <INeverMore> It'll show the option for boot menu, but then won't load ubuntu
[02:26] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: OK, making progress. In the grub boot menu is "advanced options" within "advance options" is a kernel marked "recovery" .. what results when you select this option ?
[02:26] <INeverMore> what is a grub boot menu?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: The grub boot menu is ubuntu's means of booting a operating system, You have never seen it ?
[02:28] <INeverMore> not sure
[02:29] <trndr> INeverMore, when you boot do you see a text menu with a number counting below?
[02:29] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: OK, what results when you cold boot your machine, and as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and help the right shift key ? hope you see the grub boot menu.
[02:30] <Bashing-om> *help/hold
[02:30] <INeverMore> let me get back to it.  I have it upstairs right now
[02:32] <trndr> Bashing-om, does it actualy say grub? I think I can remember me using ages to find out what it was called when I started using linux
[02:33] <Bashing-om> trndr: Yeah, at the top of the screen is the word 'grub' and the version number.
[02:33] <Iamalinuxnoob> Sorry trndr I unplugged my laptop by accident. I had to copy over the text to my laptop since the net connection on desktop was too unstable to use
[02:34] <trndr> Bashing-om, ahh, then I should probably look at my pc douring boot sometime :D
[02:34] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr http://pastebin.com/pZnaWMjg
[02:35] <budi_> hai-hai hai
[02:35] <Bashing-om> trndr: It's them little things that mean a lot, huh ?
[02:35] <Iamalinuxnoob> I will do it again in case I messed up something
[02:37] <infinity__>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2430M CPU @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.8GB, 80.3% free ** Disk: Total: 21.5GB, 74.3% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI
[02:37] <infinity__>  Express Fast Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 33m 50s **
[02:38] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr pastebin.com/mtTrVGxR       was me doing it again in case I tainted the first one
[02:38] <Iamalinuxnoob> http:/pastebin.com/mtTrVGxR
[02:38] <Iamalinuxnoob>  http://pastebin.com/mtTrVGxR
[02:38] <Iamalinuxnoob> oops
[02:41] <INeverMore> Okay, I got it down here
[02:41] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, well mate, the good news is that your network card appears to be working. The bad news is that it seems like your network manager isn't
[02:41] <INeverMore> Give me a couple minutesto get it plugged in...
[02:41] <Iamalinuxnoob> ahh thats good :D  how can I fix network manager?
[02:42] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: Patient.
[02:44] <Blaster> Hi 1) why does my whole system freeze requiring a restart when I plug my iphone in while having rhythmbox running on 14.04, and 2) what video cards have the best support in Ubuntu?
[02:44] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, try killall wpa_supplicant
[02:45] <SonicPenguin> for 1) we should see your /var/log/syslog
[02:45] <trndr> Bashing-om, the devil is in the details
[02:45] <SonicPenguin> for 2) nvidia all the way
[02:45] <Iamalinuxnoob> "wpa_supplicant(811): Operation not permitted  wpa_supplicant: no process found"
[02:46] <Bashing-om> trndr: OH Yeah ! ... and headaches too !
[02:46] <Iamalinuxnoob> Running sudo killall wpa_supplicant just led to next line with no output
[02:47] <Blaster> SonicPenguin:  Hmm didn't seem to happen this time, when I want to test it.   It last happened yesterday and the syslog looks to only have entries from today.
[02:47] <Blaster> I will have to report back when it happens again.
[02:48] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr "wpa_supplicant(811): Operation not permitted  wpa_supplicant: no process found"  Running sudo killall wpa_supplicant just led to next line with no output.  sorry I forgot to tag you in case you needed that :P
[02:48] <INeverMore> Give me a couple minutesto get it plugged in...
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Iamalinuxnoob: No reponse to a command is the system doing what you told it to do, and no back talk.
[02:49] <INeverMore> sorry, wrong keyboard
[02:49] <INeverMore> I got it loaded, grub did load, I selected Ubuntu...
[02:49] <INeverMore> and then nothing
[02:49] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, if you run dmesg | tail 2 times does the output look the same, and does the number on the bottom line stay the same?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: Once more, try the "recovery" kernel from " advance options" .
[02:50] <SonicPenguin> Blaster, ok so if it happens again make sure to save your syslog
[02:50] <Iamalinuxnoob> Bashing-om I wasn't sure since before it meant it didnt run my install script right xD  Contextually I am ignorant of when it  works/doesnt work so I just report the outcome ^_^
[02:50] <Blaster> Too bad there's no Photoshop or iTunes for Ubuntu.   I only like Windows more because it has those apps.   And don't tell me about Wine because they're buggy when ran under Wine.
[02:51] <SonicPenguin> ok for photoshop. but itunes...?
[02:51] <SonicPenguin> ah ok
[02:51] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr I just ran it 2x in a row and everything stayed the same
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Iamalinuxnoob: np, none of us were born knowing, this is still a process of learning for all of us.
[02:51] <SonicPenguin> you said you have an iphone :D
[02:52] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, good, now try the network manager
[02:52] <INeverMore> init: Failed to spawn friendly-recovery pre-start process:unable to execute: No such file or directory
[02:52] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr what do I try with it? :D
[02:52] <SonicPenguin> i solved the problem with a windows xp installation in virtualbox
[02:52] <INeverMore> init: Failed to spawn friendly-recovery post-stop process:unable to execute: No such file or directory
[02:52] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, connect to anything
[02:52] <Blaster> I have Windows 7 installed in Virtual box but Photoshop usage sucks without some type of graphics card passthrough.
[02:53] <Blaster> Lots of little bugs.
[02:53] <Iamalinuxnoob> Bashing-om unfortunately I know that all too well. it's an ongoing joke with my friends that I find a way to get the weirdest errors out of scripts/programs/linux xD
[02:53] <SonicPenguin> i see
[02:53] <INeverMore> init: Failed to spawn startpar-bridge (friendly-recovery--stopped) main process:  unable to execute: No such file or directory
[02:53] <Blaster> Guess I might have to try VMWare Workstation some day.
[02:53] <diamonds> trying to make space on partition on /
[02:53] <SonicPenguin> well, there is not much more to do for now, for adobe apps
[02:53] <diamonds> I only made it 14gb :/
[02:53] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr it changed now and is searching for signal or something. it was fine for awhile idk what made it change
[02:53] <diamonds> shouldn't have done that
[02:54] <INeverMore> how do I fix it?
[02:54] <SonicPenguin> yes, its 3d support is better
[02:54] <diamonds> anyway I'm wondering about the significance of the files in /usr/lib
[02:54] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: Humm,, strange, considering..
[02:54] <SonicPenguin> but dont expect anything useful...
[02:55] <asimov> Why does apt-get source grub2 download both an unzipped directory and a tarball while other packages have only the tarball?
[02:55] <diamonds> I uninstalled what happens if I delete directories in /usr/lib
[02:55] <diamonds> are they relied on on an ongoing basis?
[02:55] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: How many hard disk are installed in that box, and do you have the liveDVD that you used to install ubuntu handy ??
[02:55] <INeverMore> 1 and no
[02:56] <SonicPenguin> diamonds: some programs wont' even start, or the entire system
[02:56]  * diamonds nods
[02:56] <diamonds> ty SonicPenguin
[02:57] <SonicPenguin> diamonds: np
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:00] <asimov> Hi lotuspsychje
[03:00] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: Welp. I know of no way to see what is going on with out being able to: a) boot the system, or b) have a liveDVD on hand to try and see what is going on. At this point ya need to burn you another copy of the install medium; same same as the version that is installed onto the hard drive.
[03:00] <INeverMore> and then what?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: Then we see what it is going to take to boot the install.
[03:01] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, it appears you have stumbled apon a bug which is caused by N/wpa/ipv6, perhaps this can help you get a stable connection http://askubuntu.com/questions/54153/my-wifi-gets-deauthenticated-every-few-minutes-or-seconds-reason-7
[03:01] <asimov> Why does apt-get source grub2 download both an unzipped directory and a tarball while other packages have only the tarball?
[03:03] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: I will be away from the keyboard, please make any responses starting with my nick (tab completion completes) so I can find the reply.
[03:03] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr do you suggest using WICD?   I mean is it good.
[03:04]  * asimov throws lotuspsychje into the ball pit
[03:05] <trndr> Iamalinuxnoob, tbh I have no idea if it's good, or eaven usable
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> Iamalinuxnoob: if network-manager doesnt work there has to be a reason for it, think its better to make nm work
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Iamalinuxnoob: can you tell me what chipset your wifi card has?
[03:08] <asimov> Why does apt-get source grub2 download both an unzipped directory and a tarball while other packages have only the tarball?
[03:09] <Iamalinuxnoob> lotuspsychje RTL8192CU
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> Iamalinuxnoob: maybe go check the realteks website for latest wifi drivers, mostly its a driver problem acting weird on your connection
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | Iamalinuxnoob
[03:10] <Iamalinuxnoob> trndr dang. hmm I know I had issues with either card before. the reason I was trying to use a different one was because the other was dropping signal constantly and it was uber slow when it did work
[03:11] <trndr> lotuspsychje, he is using the driver from https://github.com/dz0ny/rt8192cu the propper one has issues
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> Iamalinuxnoob: you can check your current loaded driver with lshw -C network shows after driver=
[03:11] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: A consideration, will be much faster to (RE-)install at this point than to troubleshoot your issue. If you have the hardware now is a good time to install release 14.04. Your call, good learning experience to fix what is.
[03:11] <HappyNewYear13> hi, in Ubuntu 14.04 with unity environment, how many second does it take, average, for the desktop to appear from the moment you log in? mine takes like 10 seconds; i find it too long
[03:11] <INeverMore> It already was 14.04
[03:12] <holstein> HappyNewYear13: depends on many factors, and hardware support
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> HappyNewYear13: there is a way to troubleshoot unity speed, but forgot how :p
[03:12] <HappyNewYear13> lotuspsychje, how's that?
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> HappyNewYear13: think some unity log that shows whats lagging
[03:13] <HappyNewYear13> holstein, how many seconds does your unity bar to appear?
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> maybe someone else know wich one?
[03:13] <Iamalinuxnoob> lotuspsychje yeah I was using the one from that github after the normal one wasnt working. I do seem to have the same issue with my first card as well which was why I was trying the 2nd
[03:13] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: Wow !, a freash install and what happened ?
[03:13] <holstein> HappyNewYear13: try and determine what is the issue.. test with live CD's test without unity
[03:13] <INeverMore> I installed more and it broke
[03:13] <HappyNewYear13> holstein, how many seconds does your unity bar takes to appear?
[03:13] <INeverMore> I just  tried to fix it...and got a whole new issue
[03:13] <holstein> HappyNewYear13: depends on the hardware, friend
[03:13] <INeverMore> Now I can't  login
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> Iamalinuxnoob: try realtek latest driver from their site
[03:13] <Iamalinuxnoob> ok
[03:14] <holstein> HappyNewYear13: its an acceptable amount of time, considering.. when i feel its too much, i use XFCE or something more appropriate for the hardware and the use case
[03:14] <HappyNewYear13> ok, thank you holstein & lotuspsychje
[03:14] <INeverMore> how do I fix being unable to login?
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> HappyNewYear13: check also your startup items list
[03:15] <holstein> INeverMore: test if you can login in TTY please.. and report
[03:15] <INeverMore> how do I log in in tty?
[03:16] <INeverMore> what is tty?
[03:16] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: The error you relayed is some kind of strange. We can try and boot from the grub menu and see what results, maybe get a better idea of what is not taking place.
[03:16] <holstein> !tty
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> HappyNewYear13: maybe lightdmlog will show relevant stuff too
[03:16] <HappyNewYear13> thanks lotuspsychje
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> HappyNewYear13: i remember graphics card drivers can lag the login also, so also try switch to a better driver maybe
[03:18] <holstein> INeverMore: can you login in tty?
[03:18] <INeverMore> is it considered logged in when it doesn't ask for a username or password?
[03:18] <holstein> INeverMore: please switch to tty, and try and login
[03:19] <INeverMore> holstein
[03:19] <INeverMore> i did
[03:19] <holstein> INeverMore: and? can you login?
[03:19] <INeverMore> It didn't ask for a username or password
[03:19] <holstein> INeverMore: so, no then? do you see a promt?
[03:19] <[asimov]> Curious, for a certain file why does gedit show a newline while cat does not nor does cat show a newline char?
[03:19] <holstein> INeverMore: try *all* tty's.. control alt 2 through 6, please
[03:19] <INeverMore> ubuntu@ubuntu: /home/ubuntu#
[03:20] <INeverMore> that's what I see
[03:20] <holstein> INeverMore: sure.. try logging in there, please
[03:20] <INeverMore> how would I log in?
[03:21] <Bashing-om> INeverMore: I am not looking over your shoulder, so you must tell what is taking place. as to logging in, depends on if you set the system to "auto login" .
[03:21] <INeverMore> I don't remember if I did or not
[03:22] <holstein> INeverMore: do you boot up to the desktop?
[03:22] <INeverMore> I go to tty and see: ubuntu@ubuntu: /home/ubuntu#
[03:22] <holstein> INeverMore: or, are you prompted to login?
[03:22] <INeverMore> it's asking for a username and password on graphical desktop
[03:22] <INeverMore> nothing on tty
[03:22] <holstein> INeverMore: so, you did *not* set auto login, then
[03:23] <holstein> INeverMore: you have tried *all* tty's?
[03:23] <holstein> INeverMore: what do you mean by "nothing" on tty? the screens are black?
[03:23] <INeverMore> the others all say ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[03:23] <holstein> INeverMore: thats what i would expect from a live system
[03:23] <Bashing-om> holstein: -> INeverMore :: are we looking at a "root" prompt ? "ubuntu@ubuntu: /home/ubuntu#" ???
[03:24]  * [asimov] throws Bashing-om in the ball pit
[03:24] <holstein> INeverMore: your username is not ubuntu, correct?
[03:24] <INeverMore> no it is not
[03:24] <holstein> INeverMore: are you booted into a live CD?
[03:24] <[asimov]> This looks to be done intentionally to disrupt automation.
[03:24] <INeverMore> no, holstein
[03:24] <INeverMore> It only happens on tty
[03:25] <holstein> INeverMore: what only happens on tty?
[03:25] <INeverMore> on graphical it asks for username and password
[03:25] <holstein> INeverMore: i asked you to loing via tty to address when you said you could not login.. is that true? you stated you could not login
[03:25] <Bashing-om> [asimov]: Sink or swim !
[03:25] <INeverMore> I can't on graphical
[03:25] <INeverMore> tty it doesn't even prompt for username/password
[03:26] <INeverMore> it just shows ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[03:26] <meccooll> ummm looks like LiveCD, INeverMore  what happens when you try to log in via TTY7 graphical?
[03:27] <INeverMore> it asks for a username and password
[03:27] <meccooll> Try username: ubuntu password <blank>
[03:27] <INeverMore> I did
[03:27] <holstein> INeverMore: that looks like a live CD
[03:27] <[asimov]> Bashing-om any clue as to why the newline shows in gedit but not while using grep or cat?
[03:27] <holstein> INeverMore: did you try making a persistent live CD?
[03:28] <INeverMore> when I tried that it took me write back to the login screen
[03:28] <INeverMore> no, I used a livecd to install the OS
[03:28] <INeverMore> that's it
[03:28] <HappyNewYear13> is mark shuttleworth married? wikipedia says nothing about it. maybe he's gay?
[03:28] <holstein> INeverMore: can you login as guest?
[03:28] <ianorlin> does whoami at a tty say root
[03:29] <holstein> INeverMore: have you tried removing or renaming your configs for the desktop environment?
[03:29] <ADW>  suppp0
[03:29] <INeverMore> nope
[03:29] <INeverMore> whoami says ubuntu
[03:29] <holstein> INeverMore: have you tried booting an older kernel?
[03:29] <Bashing-om> [asimov]: Not right off the top of my head. maybe some setting in gedit as to how it represents the new line ?
[03:29] <INeverMore> how would I do that, holstein?
[03:29] <holstein> INeverMore: you should not be in user ubuntu if you dont have a user ubuntu
[03:29] <holstein> INeverMore: you seem to be booted into a live CD
[03:29] <INeverMore> How?
[03:30] <INeverMore> I have no CD in the drive
[03:30] <INeverMore> I have no usb stick inthe computer
[03:30] <INeverMore> There is nothing that it could boot from
[03:30] <holstein> INeverMore: im stating facts.. did you make an ubuntu user?
[03:30] <INeverMore> nope
[03:30] <holstein> INeverMore: then, thats what ubuntu users are on.. live environments
[03:31] <holstein> INeverMore: you have something seriously odd about your install, that i think is not properly installed
[03:31] <trndr> simov], could be gedit handles carage return?
[03:31] <holstein> INeverMore:  i suggest backing up your data, and fresh install.. you can try the recovery kernel
[03:31] <holstein> INeverMore: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[03:31] <INeverMore> recovery kernel failed last time
[03:31] <holstein> INeverMore: last time?
[03:32] <INeverMore> We discussed this liek 30 min ago, yes
[03:32] <holstein> INeverMore:  i have no frame of reference for "times", so share any details
[03:32] <INeverMore> I was having issues, so I fixed it
[03:32] <holstein> INeverMore: i just got here..
[03:32] <INeverMore> recovery mode gave:
[03:32] <INeverMore> oops, lost the buffer
[03:32] <[asimov]> It shows as a space in cat and a newline in grub.
[03:32] <INeverMore> No file or directory in several key parts basically
[03:33] <holstein> INeverMore: reboot the machine, and try an older kernel.. then, try the recovery mode.. note errors and share them
[03:33] <Iamalinuxnoob> lotuspsychje this install process is confusing what exactly am I supposed to do? apparently running the main install.sh doesnt work right
[03:33] <holstein> INeverMore: sure.. yet another thing i would expect on a live environment
[03:33] <holstein> INeverMore: what did you fix? and how?.. could be you broke your system into this state..
[03:33] <ianorlin> Inevermore did you change your boot order after install
[03:33] <ianorlin> and did you leave a usb in?
[03:33] <INeverMore> no, and no
[03:34] <holstein> INeverMore: still, your a booting a user you didnt make.. that is present on live environments.. so, something is "wrong".. what did you fix? and hos?
[03:34] <holstein> how*
[03:34] <INeverMore> I copied some files from the DVD to the HDD
[03:35] <holstein> INeverMore: ok.. why? and what files?
[03:35] <holstein> INeverMore: could be, taht has broken your system..
[03:35] <INeverMore> it was already broken
[03:35] <INeverMore> before that it just hung at book
[03:35] <INeverMore> boot
[03:35] <holstein> INeverMore: sure.. so, it could be, that didnt fix your system
[03:35] <holstein> INeverMore: what are the errors from the recovery kernel?
[03:36] <holstein> INeverMore: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[03:36] <INeverMore> init: Failed to spawn friendly-recovery pre-start process:unable to execute: No such file or directory
[03:36] <INeverMore> init: Failed to spawn friendly-recovery post-stop process:unable to execute: No such file or directory
[03:36] <INeverMore> init: Failed to spawn startpar-bridge (friendly-recovery--stopped) main process:  unable to execute: No such file or directory
[03:36] <holstein> INeverMore: thats what i would expect from a live CD.. could be, you have broken your system badly doing whatever you did before
[03:36] <holstein> INeverMore: a reinstallation should take about 8 minutes.. thats what i suggest..
[03:37] <INeverMore> 8 minutes?
[03:37] <INeverMore> last time it took over an hour
[03:38] <holstein> INeverMore: shouldnt.. still, thats much less time than you will spend potentially pinpointing whats happening.. and maybe or maybe not fixing it
[03:38] <INeverMore> I just rebooted
[03:38] <INeverMore> and got new errors
[03:38] <holstein> INeverMore: sure.. no doubt your system is messed up.. if you are seeing the ubuntu live user, and you didnt make an ubuntu user. thats bad
[03:39] <INeverMore> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x0000100
[03:39] <holstein> INeverMore: you still havent stated what you copied, or why.. but i suspect that was bad
[03:39] <INeverMore> Same when I try to load in recovery mode
[03:41] <mpoole> anyone know a bunch about ifenslave and bonding interfaces?
[03:42] <mpoole> I'm having a problem (using LACP) where if I manually bond the interfaces using ifenslave and ifconfig upping bond0 it works fine
[03:42] <mpoole> if I try and do it via /etc/network/interfaces it's a big fat fail
[03:42] <mpoole> I think it's trying to bring up the interfaces too fast
[03:44] <[asimov]> mpoole: sounds like bs
[03:45] <INeverMore> What does my new error mean?
[03:45] <mpoole> [asimov]
[03:45] <mpoole> http://pastebin.com/2gV1fT2J
[03:46] <mpoole> thats my interfaces conf
[03:46] <holstein> INeverMore: just what it says.. kernel panic.. thats not good.. why is that happening? did you copy something in that broke your system? what did you copy? and why?
[03:46] <[asimov]> mpoole: rub your face in it
[03:47] <holstein> INeverMore: reinstallation is the shortest path to fix.. you can mess about with your system now and maybe never get it back to functioning properly
[03:47] <[asimov]> yep bazhang
[03:48] <[asimov]> mpoole: Can you tell me what you are trying to accomplish?
[03:49] <[asimov]> I am looking for a scriptwriter to help out with password files.
[03:49] <[asimov]> What is the point in bonding interfaces?
[03:49] <INeverMore> so then I'll have to spend another 30 hrs customizing crap and hope it doesn't break this time?
[03:49] <INeverMore> great
[03:51] <INeverMore> So I'm doing a reinstall
[03:51] <INeverMore> Actually faster this time, not bad
[03:52] <[asimov]> Is ^peter^ an ubuntu user?
[03:53] <Deihmos> what happened to the hibernate option
[03:53] <[asimov]> I have mounted the military radio signals.
[03:55] <[asimov]> Ready to roast em?
[03:56]  * [asimov] pulls abadon out of anus
[03:56] <INeverMore> I don't even know how, but I think it's broken again
[03:56] <[asimov]> Where did that angel come from?
[03:57] <[asimov]> Looks at the AI hmm, they owe me.
[03:57] <Beldar> !ops | [asimov]
[03:58] <[asimov]> All of this computer technology and they haven't fixed my guitar or delivered fresh bread to my door.
[03:58] <Flannel> [asimov]: please stop that.
[03:59] <INeverMore> What does "error: file `/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic' not found. mean?
[03:59] <INeverMore> is there a fix for that besides another install?
[03:59] <dauntl3ss> hey guys, I'm trying to install Squirrell mail on my postfix setup which seems to be working as I have been able to recieve mail from my website. However, when I install squirell mail, and try to get to it from mail.mysite.com, it takes me to my website. here's my apache vhost setup: http://laravel.io/bin/4BeDw
[04:00] <Guest40877> Is flash in Ubuntu 14.04 fixable?
[04:00] <Beldar> INeverMore, Did you remove kernels and not run a grub-update?
[04:00] <INeverMore> I don't know how to remove kernels
[04:00] <umbp> Hello. Noob question.. how do I right click on a Mac Book Pro with Ubuntu? Control Click doesn't work, and the touch pad has no right click...
[04:01] <Beldar> INeverMore, What is the context of that error showing?
[04:01] <[asimov]> The password is in my anus.
[04:01] <INeverMore> not sure what you mean, Beldar?
[04:01] <Beldar> INeverMore, You have an error, how did you get there?
[04:01] <INeverMore> I rebooted the computer
[04:02] <Beldar> INeverMore, And when you chose that kernel you got this error?
[04:02] <INeverMore> yep
[04:03] <Beldar> INeverMore, This was a working kernel?
[04:03] <INeverMore> I assume so
[04:03] <Beldar> or an update
[04:03] <INeverMore> I went into recovery mode to get that error
[04:03] <INeverMore> on normal boot I just got a black screenwith no error or anythign else
[04:04] <Beldar> INeverMore, This is taking to long, I can't help you I don't have the patience, other do though. ;)
[04:04] <INeverMore> I just reinstalled the OS
[04:04] <INeverMore> ran a couple scripts to install some stuff
[04:04] <INeverMore> and got that error
[04:04] <Guest40877> Is flash fixable in 14.04 lts
[04:05] <Beldar> Guest40877, Fixable? can you describe what that means?
[04:05] <Guest40877> Doesen t work in chr omium
[04:06] <Guest40877> Please install flash player
[04:06] <Beldar> Guest40877, Chrome has it's own flash, have you tweaked it, has it ever worked?
[04:07] <Guest40877> Never worked I don't think HTML 5 works in something
[04:07] <Beldar> Guest40877, HTML 5 and flash are not related, two different systems.
[04:07] <Guest40877> Does chromium browser have its own flag player
[04:08] <Guest40877> flash player
[04:08] <Beldar> Guest40877, chromium uses the repos flash, however I belive one can load the chrome flash, not real sure however.
[04:10] <Beldar> Guest40877, Are you aware that adobe does not support the flash for linux?
[04:14] <AlexTheLion> Hello
[04:16] <whynawtme> installed php5 and removed it and trying to install it again getting this error:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:16] <whynawtme>  php5-fpm : Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4) but 5.5.12+dfsg-2+deb.sury.org~precise+1 is to be installed.  i assume this has to do with my sources.list?
[04:20] <allen> hey folks, is it possible to make a "shortcut" on my desktop to load an app that uses Wine, instead of having to go to the folder its in, finding the exe file and right clicking it, then selecting run in Wine?
[04:21] <SweetLovings> How do you run multiple network connections on xchat?
[04:21] <Iamalinuxnoob> I am such a retard
[04:22] <Iamalinuxnoob> All this time i couldnt get the script to run since I didnt have the directory changed because I just was running it with the filepath to the script -_-
[04:23] <SweetLovings> Congratulations
[04:23] <AvadaKedavra> Hello
[04:23] <SweetLovings> Heya
[04:23] <AvadaKedavra> how to use sqlmap
[04:28] <en16m4666> xset led named "Scroll Lock"
[04:35] <em> #Illuminati-Manga@irc.irchighway.net
[04:47] <whynawtme> how do i downgrade to php 5.3 instead of 5.5?
[04:48] <somsip> whynawtme: what version of ubuntu?
[04:50] <whynawtme> i just upgraded to 14.04lts
[04:51] <somsip> whynawtme: php for use in apache or cli?
[04:52] <allen> anyone know why i can't right click on the desktop and "create a launcher"
[04:53] <allen> the option isn't there
[04:53] <whynawtme> nginx
[04:53] <whynawtme> php5-fpm
[04:53] <somsip> whynawtme: you can try this, but my recommendation would be to setup 12.04 in a VM and use that https://github.com/phpenv/phpenv
[04:54] <whynawtme> damn i just upgraded from 10.04 all the way up to 14.04 and booted into 12.04 at one point too
[04:54] <owh> allen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop
[04:56] <allen> i don't have gnome installed owh
[04:56] <allen> i am running unity only
[05:00] <owh> allen: Try this then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[05:03] <allen> thanks owh, looking through it now
[05:03] <owh> allen: I'm not sure if actual desktop icons are supported any longer.
[05:03] <Beldar> gnome does not have a right click create launcher, this has been gone for awhile
[05:03] <Beldar> easy to make though
[05:04] <owh> Beldar: Does Unity still support actual icons on the desktop, allen is asking.
[05:05] <Beldar> actual in what context?
[05:05] <owh> Beldar: As in, an icon displayed on the Unity desktop surface, outside the launch bar.
[05:05] <Beldar> allen, You have to turn on the show
[05:06] <Beldar> you can drag and drop and build your own
[05:07] <allen> Beldar, how do you mean turn on the show
[05:09] <Iamalinuxnoob> How do I make this work without errors? http://pastebin.com/wYgUDCza I am installing the latest Realtek driver from their site
[05:09] <mcrist0> set timestamps = OFF
[05:09] <Beldar> allen I use the gnome shell it has a icons on desktop show button on the gnome tweak tool, probably one in the unity tweak tool, not sure been awhile since I used unity. This does not make a right click for launchers tough.
[05:09] <Beldar> on=in
[05:11] <owh> Iamalinuxnoob: RealTek makes lots of drivers. Which one?
[05:12] <owh> Iamalinuxnoob: Also, which version of Ubuntu?
[05:13] <Iamalinuxnoob> LTS 14.04 trying to fix the RTL8192CU driver. Apparently the normal one is bugged.
[05:13] <owh> Iamalinuxnoob: What makes you say that it's bugged?
[05:14] <Iamalinuxnoob> @ owh 1 it didnt work for me. insanely hard to connect and keep getting dropped 2. google search xD
[05:15] <Iamalinuxnoob> owh and 3. I asked help earlier to even get to this point -_- may not fix it but I am hoping if i get the new drivers installed it will work like it did for other people in the other linux versions with this driver
[05:15] <someHuman> Hello!
[05:15] <owh> Iamalinuxnoob: This appears to cover the full instructions: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[05:16] <someHuman> Why isn't there a box that shows when I try to click and drag my mouse to select stuff like in Windows?
[05:16] <Iamalinuxnoob> Thanks owh! I wil ltry that. :D
[05:16] <owh> Iamalinuxnoob: I'm still looking to see if there is a PPA with the correct stuff in it. Hang on for a bit.
[05:19] <owh> Iamalinuxnoob: My google-fu appears to be broken. I cannot find a PPA. Try the instructions from the link I sent you.
[05:19] <owh> someHuman: It does on my desktop.
[05:19] <qin> someHuman: it fuels procrascination...
[05:19] <duckchat> please don't mind me.  i'm testing something...
[05:20] <owh> duckchat: This is not a test channel. Use #test
[05:20] <qin> someHuman: Do you use Unity or Gnome Shell?
[05:21] <duckchat> owh: sorry, just joined the test channel
[05:21] <duckchat> anyone here have any experience with dual monitors?? radeon
[05:22] <meccooll> duckchat, yes but not a good one
[05:23] <duckchat> I have two identical cards. HD 5450 running ubuntu 14.04.  monitors are picked up ok. resolution good. but...
[05:24] <allstarsnorks2> Hi guys. I'm installing Ubuntu Mini now. Apparently, all the archives that are stated in the installation are bad archives. How do I solve it?
[05:24] <duckchat> latency when using chat program on second monitor and mouse flickers and disappears all the time...
[05:25] <Iamalinuxnoob> ahh ok owh
[05:25] <allstarsnorks2> anyone knows what's wrong?
[05:25] <owh> allstarsnorks2: How old is that installer?
[05:25] <meccooll> duckchat, glxinfo | grep render
[05:25] <Beldar> allstarsnorks2, what release?
[05:25] <casa> Are you like to ubuntu?
[05:26] <duckchat> ubuntu 14.04
[05:26] <duckchat> trusty
[05:26]  * owh isn't aware of a current "mini" install
[05:26] <somsip> !minimal | owh
[05:27] <somsip> !md5 | allstarsnorks2
[05:27] <somsip> allstarsnorks2: that would be the first step I think
[05:27] <duckchat> so, i pulled one of the cards and used a DVI adapter.  the problems I was having seemed to go away, however, now I cannot get a resolution higher than 1024x768 on one of the monitors...
[05:27] <allstarsnorks> The installer I'm using is 12.04 and 14.04 both gave me a bad archive message
[05:27] <owh> somsip: Something new every day ;-) I thought it was depreciated. Thanks.
[05:27] <meccooll> duckchat, glxinfo | grep render
[05:27] <somsip> allstarsnorks2: you mean the place you try to download from, and not the archives already present on the iso?
[05:28] <owh> allstarsnorks: Does your internet connection work when the installer is running?
[05:28] <allstarsnorks> Yeah, apparently
[05:28] <somsip> allstarsnorks2: which archive? Try accessing it manually. Maybe it is just down
[05:29]  * owh had issues yesterday with Australia's largest/fastest mirror. Sometimes stuff just breaks.
[05:29] <allstarsnorks> Singapore, Malaysia, Australia, US, Romania and Belarus archives
[05:29] <duckchat> xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1680x1050 will give me the resolution i need.  how to make it permanent for reboots, etc.?
[05:29] <owh> allstarsnorks: How do you know the Internet connection is working?
[05:29] <somsip> allstarsnorks2: are you behind a proxy?
[05:30] <allstarsnorks> No proxies
[05:30] <allstarsnorks> My internet connection is working. I'm using the same WiFi network for the chat and install.
[05:30] <ElPastorOmar> Bless!
[05:30] <somsip> allstarsnorks: and is the installer finding and settng up the wifi card ok?
[05:30] <owh> allstarsnorks: I understand, but are you running the minimal cd to talk to us, or something else?
[05:31] <allstarsnorks> Yeah. Should be. I'm actually using VirtualBox to install Ubuntu Mini.
[05:31] <ElPastorOmar> Ubuntu Studio
[05:31] <nf7> I've got a headless install of Ubuntu 14.04 in VirtualBox (OSX as host). Is there a way to change the resolution to something larger?
[05:31] <somsip> allstarsnorks: so you're bridging to a host? Is it set to bridged or somethig else?
[05:31] <owh> allstarsnorks: To make sure. You're running an OS. You're using it to chat with us. Inside that OS, you're launching VirtualBox and want to install Ubuntu using the mini cd?
[05:32] <duckchat> nf7: yes, there is a way.  i have to look it up...
[05:33] <owh> nf7: How does resolution matter if it's headless?
[05:33] <allstarsnorks> Yep. I'm running Vbox to install the OS while on my Windows Phone device to talk to you guys.
[05:33] <owh> Huh?
[05:33] <nf7> owh: It's running in a virtual machine, I could SSH into it with an OSX terminal but I don't want to
[05:33] <owh> nf7: That's the definition of headless.
[05:34] <owh> allstarsnorks: Can you please explain your environment. I do not understand what you're describing. Before we start troubleshooting, it helps to know what we're actually attempting to fix.
[05:34] <owh> nf7: What do you actually want to do?
[05:35] <nf7> owh: I want to make the virtual box console larger
[05:35] <duckchat> nf7: if you want higher resolutions on virutalbox, then, you need to install guest utilities, extension, etc.
[05:35] <owh> nf7: Headless means that it doesn't have a screen. If you want to see more, use a bigger ssh window.
[05:35] <cfhowlett> nf7 this ^^^
[05:36] <owh> cfhowlett: I suspect you don't mean my comment right?
[05:36] <duckchat> nf7: sorry, it is guest additions...
[05:36] <cfhowlett> owh lol.  right.  lag ...
[05:37]  * owh understands that there are now two meanings for headless, one with a monitor, and one without.
[05:37] <stemid> hey I used avconv to concat two mp3 files but there's a sound skip between them that isn't heard when they're played in my phone.
[05:37] <stemid> separately
[05:38] <cfhowlett> stemid see the avconv man - doubt you'll get a lot of help here as avconv is NOT an ubuntu product, it's an included app
[05:38] <owh> stemid: mp3 files can technically not be concatenated. Some tools try to do this and sometimes it works. An mp3 file generally has meta data at the very end. You're better off opening them each in Audacity and glueing them together.
[05:38] <stemid> yes but ubuntu specifically recommends avconv over ffmpeg so I was hopeful
[05:39] <cfhowlett> stemid as owh suggested - audacity
[05:39]  * owh has been playing with mp3 files for many years.
[05:39] <cfhowlett> owh  I didn't appreciate that mp3 could NOT be concatenated - food for thought.
[05:40] <qin> nf7: or, in unlikely case you may want to look into console-setup if you want to change font size and type
[05:40] <qin> too late...
[05:40] <owh> cfhowlett: Some people even use cat to do it, but often it ends in tears.
[05:41] <cfhowlett> owh I used ffmpeg a bit for video conversions  ... not so much audio.  fun science projects
[05:41] <owh> cfhowlett: Symptoms include incorrect playback speed, incorrect lengths, artefacts and player crashes.
[05:41] <cfhowlett> owh ... sounds like so many of the complaints we see here!
[05:42] <owh> cfhowlett: Well, if you transcode with something like ffmpgeg, that is, load the file(s), concatenate the streams and then encode them again, you'll be achieving a similar thing to using audacity, but just a back to back glue of the file is not cool.
[05:43] <cfhowlett> owh I think it's time for you to hold an avconv AMA on reddit - or an ubuntu class ...
[05:44] <owh> cfhowlett: pass
[05:44] <stemid> yeah I guess audacity would be easier
[05:44] <cfhowlett> owh :)  ok then
[05:45] <someHuman> How do I make Google Drive as my backup location?
[05:45] <someHuman> Is is in either FTP or SSH?
[05:45] <owh> someHuman: Neither.
[05:45] <owh> someHuman: If I recall correctly, there is a fuse module
[05:46] <someHuman> owh: fuse?
[05:46] <owh> someHuman: It's a mechanism to support weird systems and make them look like a mounted drive. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/mount.fuse.8.html
[05:48] <Macer> hm...
[05:48] <Macer> having an issue with bind9 in ubuntu spitting out "working directory is not writeable" anbyody know where the dir is exactly or where it is set in the conf?
[05:49] <owh> someHuman: https://github.com/jcline/fuse-google-drive
[05:49] <duckchat> exit
[05:49] <owh> Macer: Have a hunt through /etc/default/
[05:50] <Macer> i did already
[05:50] <Macer> /etc/default just has the flags.. and -u is the flag
[05:50] <Macer> i'm not chrooting since i'm running it within a container
[05:50] <Macer> so is /etc/bind the "working directory" ?
[05:51] <owh> Macer: Just having a look at the ServerHowTo. The configuration files themselves seem to live in /etc/bind/ are there any paths inside any of those files?
[05:51] <Macer> ah ok
[05:51] <Macer> i think i just set the directory flag wrong
[05:53] <Macer> ok that wasn't it
[05:54] <Macer> there are but not anything that would scream "working directory"
[05:54] <Macer> i'd expect a var somewhere in there heh... no idea where it is setting the working directory
[05:55] <Jordan_U> stemid:
[05:55] <owh> Macer: Is there anything in /var/log/query.log, or are any messages being inserted into syslog?
[05:55] <owh> Macer: I'm reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[05:56] <Macer> onlythe part where it says workign directory is not writeable.. i'll check again
[05:58] <stemid> Jordan_U:
[05:58] <Macer> ah ok. seems that my old config just doesn't jive
[05:59] <Macer> ok that did it heh... i guess the rest of the files other than the .conf stuff should be in /var/cache/bind
[05:59] <Macer> i'll figure out hte exact structure soon but thanks :)
[06:00] <Macer> May 23 00:43:40 ns named[2461]: the working directory is not writable
[06:00] <Macer> May 23 00:43:40 ns named[2461]: the working directory is not writable
[06:00] <Macer> oops. sorry about that
[06:01] <owh> Macer: Cool, good luck.
[06:03] <digi0ps> Whats the default root password for su?
[06:03] <owh> digi0ps: Use sudo -s.
[06:04] <digi0ps> Hmm thanks.
[06:04] <digi0ps> But su is not accepting the same password as my user account. whats the password for that?
[06:05] <Guest26264> help
[06:05] <owh> digi0ps: What user are you trying to become?
[06:06] <digi0ps> root
[06:06] <digi0ps> using su
[06:06] <owh> !root | digi0ps
[06:06] <Guest26264> i need help aircrack
[06:06] <qin> digi0ps: sudo -i; and good luck.
[06:07] <owh> qin -i?
[06:07] <qin> Guest26264: sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[06:08] <qin> !rootsudo
[06:09] <digi0ps> ubottu: Oh. Sorry. I am new to Linux. So sudo is the command which grants the root previleges.  But  which password will su accept?
[06:10] <qin> owh: somehere near the bottom of that help page is evn's comparision, apparently -i is bit "better"
[06:10] <trap_exit> does ubuntu have a headless live cd?
[06:10] <owh> digi0ps: The su command accepts the password for the user you are trying to become. If you are trying to become root that will fail, because you cannot type that password. Use sudo.
[06:10] <trap_exit> i.e. something where it boots up, opens up ethernet ,then opens up a ssh server?
[06:11] <digi0ps> ubottu: Okay.
[06:11] <qin> trap_exit: you could install server on usb, and set it to your liking
[06:11] <digi0ps> owh: Why cant we do that with su?
[06:11] <trap_exit> gin: hmmmm; interesting
[06:11] <owh> digi0ps: Because the root account has purposefully been disabled.
[06:12] <digi0ps> owh: Only on ubuntu or in all other linux distributions?
[06:12] <qin> digi0ps: coz su wants root password and unfortunately root do not have password in Ubuntu
[06:12] <owh> digi0ps: On Ubuntu and IIRC on Debian.
[06:13] <digi0ps> qin: Oh. But in Backtrack I was able to become the root user through the su command!
[06:13] <qin> digi0ps: you funny.
[06:14] <digi0ps> owh: So the only way to become the root user in ubuntu is to use the sudo command?
[06:14] <owh> digi0ps: Yes.
[06:14] <digi0ps> qin: Sorry. But I am new to Linux and Ubuntu.
[06:14] <digi0ps> :(
[06:14] <owh> digi0ps: Read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:14] <digi0ps> owh: Okay
[06:15] <trap_exit> damn it, is the replacemnet lamp on http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-PJD5533W-WXGA-Portable-Projector/dp/B00511ITEM/ as expensive as the projector itself?
[06:15] <dhaval> Hello!
[06:15] <qin> digi0ps: Maybe reading help page would be benefitial, it shows many aspects of sudo and root.
[06:15] <dhaval> I want to create a user in ubuntu 12 with root previledges which can create directories in other users's home folders.
[06:16] <dhaval> Please help me
[06:16] <qin> dhaval: add user to sudo group
[06:16] <trap_exit> hi! I have osx computer. On osx computer, I have virtual box, which has ubuntu installed. Using this virtual-boxed ubuntu, I want to create a usb-ubuntu-live-cd ... where the usb-ubunbu boots up, connects to network, and opens up a ssh server.
[06:16] <dhaval> I've added it using sudo adduser username sudo
[06:16] <trap_exit> How cna I do this? Please point me at docs.
[06:16] <dhaval> But still it's not able to create directory in other users's home folders.
[06:17] <qin> dhaval: use sudo comamnd to achive it
[06:17] <qin> dhaval: sudo mkdir ....
[06:17] <bazhang> trap_exit, try #vbox
[06:18] <trap_exit> bazhang: the question is how to make a ubuntu live usb
[06:18] <trap_exit> what does it ahve to do with virtual box?
[06:18] <trap_exit> do you english?
[06:18] <bazhang> trap_exit, lose the attitude
[06:18] <dhaval> qin: in the shell script I am using they are using su username -C command.
[06:18]  * Kartagis didn't know english was a verb
[06:18] <qin> trap_exit: "do you english?" looks wired.
[06:18] <trap_exit> qin: it was meant to be humor
[06:19] <trap_exit> given that the naswer had nothing to do with the question
[06:19] <trap_exit> the questino is not how to use virtual box
[06:19] <trap_exit> but how to create a live-usb in a ubuntu inside of a virtual box
[06:19] <trap_exit> it might as well as have been insdie parallels or inside vmware
[06:19] <owh> trap_exit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172570/how-can-i-create-a-livecd-livedvd-liveusb
[06:20] <bazhang> !usb > trap_exit
[06:20] <trap_exit> owh: so basically, I want to use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ ?
[06:20] <digi0ps> owh and qin thanks for you help! :)
[06:20] <trap_exit> bazhang: this looks useful, thanks!
[06:21] <qin> dhaval: where script takes password from?
[06:21] <dhaval> It does not take any password.
[06:22] <qin> dhaval: su needs password, me thinks
[06:23] <dhaval> Ok. I am executing the script from a user using sudo ./install.sh user itself. Now that script has something like su username -C "command". And that command is basically trying to create directory in the current user.
[06:24] <Yelu> trap_exit, inside a Ununtu Desktop vm is the regular "Startup Disk Creator" available. - You only need an usb stick and the iso accessible inside your vm to create it.
[06:25] <qin> dhaval: instad of su, you can chown
[06:25] <dhaval> trap_exit: did you try Netbootin?
[06:25] <dhaval> qin: Hmm. I don't want to modify the script. I think I've to create that directory manually.
[06:28] <digi0ps> how to take a screenshot in ubuntu?
[06:28] <bodhi32> whats up guys
[06:28] <Yelu> trap_exit, forget it. - Didn't read the auto-ssh requirement :(
[06:28] <trap_exit> Yelu: noted
[06:28] <trap_exit> yeah, I think usb creator is the way to go
[06:28] <qin> dhaval: It is strange to change to user from superuser to make directory, since you already run script with sudo (or root shell) you can use simple tool to control script flow, lifelong hints: *babysteps* and /j #bash
[06:28] <bazhang> digi0ps, the printscreen button
[06:28] <bodhi32> new to linux, just installed bodhi linux
[06:29] <trap_exit> how else am I supposed to get my public key into authorized_keys
[06:29] <bodhi32> but ever since i installed my dvd rom keeps opening and closing
[06:29] <qin> bodhi32: Pitty that you not running Ubuntu...
[06:29] <bodhi32> had to disconnect power
[06:29] <bodhi32> i wish my dvd player would work
[06:29] <bodhi32> so i can re install ubuntu
[06:30] <qin> Tricky
[06:30] <bodhi32> i enjoyed it more than bodhi
[06:30] <owh> bodhi32: Do you have any data on the machine you care about?
[06:30] <bodhi32> no
[06:30] <dhaval> qin: Thanks man. Since I am just using it for testing. I can live with this. However I wanted to see if there is any proper solution or not. But it seems the flow of the script requires to be changed.
[06:30] <owh> bodhi32: Shut down the machine, insert a Ubuntu CD, boot from the CD, done.
[06:31] <bodhi32> ya have to buy some blank cds.. my copy of ubuntu is on blank dvd currently
[06:31] <bodhi32> but that would be easiest fix
[06:31] <owh> bodhi32: Or install it on a USB thumbdrive.
[06:32] <qin> dhaval: yes, it is: mkdir /home/$SomeUser/$SomeDir; chown $SomeUser:$SomeUser $SomeDir; more-less
[06:32] <dhaval> qin; Yes, Got it.
[06:32] <dhaval> Thanks.
[06:32] <bodhi32> ya i thought of that but when i put it on usb drive, this 15 year old dell im trying linux on doesnt allow me to boot from usb i believe
[06:33] <bodhi32> i dont think it is an option in the bios
[06:33] <owh> bodhi32: How is the data stored on the DVD?
[06:34] <bodhi32> an iso i burned on my mac
[06:34] <owh> bodhi32: So, is it bootable?
[06:34] <bodhi32> ya
[06:34] <owh> bodhi32: Boot from it and install Ubuntu.
[06:35] <bodhi32> but dvd stop working since i put bodhi.. it keeps opening and closing.. never seen something like this before.. but i will put it on cd later tonight after i buy blank cds because cd rom is still working
[06:35] <afrokarlsson> ok give me some chat channel
[06:35] <afrokarlsson> hetero
[06:35] <owh> bodhi32: Turn the machine off, insert the DVD, turn it back on, boot from the DVD.
[06:36] <afrokarlsson> i need sex
[06:36] <qin> !op
[06:37] <bodhi32> owh.. just curios, what flavor of ubuntu to you use.. regular ubuntu? excuse my terminology
[06:37] <afrokarlsson> fu
[06:37] <owh> bodhi32: Yup, plain vanilla.
[06:37] <elky> afrokarlsson: this is not a channel help service.
[06:37] <Takanen> bodhi32: Vanilla & installed gnome
[06:38] <afrokarlsson> are you all blonds width big boobs, and 2 tail?
[06:38] <owh> Bingo!
[06:40] <trijntje> Hi all, what determines wether a device gets sda,sdb etc? I only have one harddisk in my pc, but my external disk is sdf, not sdb
[06:42] <Beldar> trijntje, have you had it plugged in and used flash usbs or any other usb devices?
[06:43] <trijntje> Beldar: no, this is straight after booting
[06:44] <Beldar> trijntje, not sure
[06:44] <owh> trijntje: I have seen cases where the usb stick itself had multiple volumes which caused all manner of weirdness. What does dmesg say?
[06:45]  * owh wonders if there might be a UUID mapping in ftab
[06:45] <owh> s/ftab/fstab/
[06:45] <trijntje> Beldar: thats weird, it says "[    3.130543] sd 6:0:0:1: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk"
[06:47] <owh> trijntje: You haven't got any firewire devices or in-built card readers?
[06:47] <trijntje> owh: I do have a build in card reader, not sure if its attached
[06:48] <owh> trijntje: Likely it's a device on the USB hub with several "drives" to handle different formats.
[06:49] <Beldar> trijntje, What does sudo fdisk -l show, give us a pastebin.
[06:49] <owh> Beldar: If it's a card reader, that is likely to fail.
[06:49] <trijntje> owh: cool, that explains it. Now that you mention it windows also shows several drives
[06:50] <owh> trijntje: Geen probleem ;-)
[06:50] <Beldar> trijntje, windows would not pre dispose your linux sdb naming
[06:51]  * owh accuses trijntje of at least being associated with something Dutch, with a combination of "ij" in the name ;-)
[06:51] <trijntje> correct ;)
[06:51] <owh> Beldar: No, but a built-in device would boot before an external one.
[06:51] <owh> trijntje: owh == onno was here
[06:52] <Beldar> owh, Only if first bin the bios
[06:52] <Beldar> in*
[06:52] <owh> Beldar: I'm not aware of any BIOS settings that set the order of USB hubs.
[06:53] <Beldar> owh, I did not see your answers, so I did not see a usb hub mentioned.
[06:53] <owh> Beldar: Most of these card readers are simple USB things that connect via the internal USB hub. I might be wrong, but that's pretty common.
[06:54] <Beldar> something is up yeah. ;)
[06:54] <hookEcho> hi
[06:55] <owh> hookEcho: Welcome to the Ubuntu IRC live helpdesk - now with real humans, how may I direct your query?
[06:58] <majod> can i somehow make hdd turn off when idle for 20 minutes?
[06:59] <SwedeMike> majod: yes.
[06:59] <jackbrown> does it worth to install Linux in UEFI mode on my laptop instead of legacy ?
[07:00] <vlt> majod: There’s "hdparm". (But your system hdd most certainly hardy ever idles.)
[07:00] <owh> !uefi | jackbrown
[07:00] <owh> jackbrown: That's a whole lot of information about UEFI.
[07:00] <majod> vlt: yeah, i need it for secondary hdd...
[07:01] <jackbrown> owh: thanks I just was asking if it worth or I'll not notice any changes
[07:01] <SwedeMike> majod: http://info4admins.com/tips-to-spindown-your-hard-disk-in-debian-or-ubuntu/ the hdparm.conf part.
[07:01] <owh> jackbrown: The last time I read that URL, there was lots of detail about the how and why either way.
[07:01] <jackbrown> ok
[07:02] <majod> SwedeMike: thanks!
[07:03] <outerkom> anyone know anything about Asterisk?
[07:04] <owh> outerkom: It comes when you hit shift-8, also, it's a PABX ;-)
[07:04] <owh> outerkom: Also, he's got a friend, Obelix.
[07:04] <outerkom> huh
[07:05] <owh> outerkom: Ask your question.
[07:05] <mahesh_> j/ beagle
[07:05] <outerkom> I'm getting Got SIP response 480 "No Routes Found" when putting  outbound calls onto a trunk
[07:05] <outerkom> what's going on??!?!
[07:06] <owh> outerkom: Internet connectivity working properly?
[07:07] <owh> outerkom: You've read this I presume: http://community.acmepacket.com/t5/Operations-and-Management/SIP-Response-codes-and-their-meaning/td-p/161
[07:07] <outerkom> owh, yip
[07:08] <arebenti_buntu_> bonjour :)
[07:08] <owh> outerkom: Digging into the dregs of my memory, the last time I played with Asterisk was a decade ago, turn up the logging level, look at the log. IIRC it will tell you exactly what it was trying to do and failed to achieve.
[07:09] <outerkom> durh
[07:09] <outerkom> that is from the logs
[07:09] <owh> outerkom: Increase the logleve.
[07:09] <owh> s/logleve/loglevel/
[07:09] <owh> outerkom: Basic logging will just give you the error. You should be able to get increased detail.
[07:10] <abdel> hello, all please am getting pissed with 14.04 ubuntu
[07:10] <owh> abdel: Well, that's a shame.
[07:10] <Beldar> abdel, minus the emotional state tell us the issue.
[07:10] <abdel> i use transcoder to convert my media file but now i can't use it anymore, i keep getting The requested plugins are:
[07:10] <abdel> GStreamer element ffdeinterlace
[07:10] <outerkom> owh, set verbose 999999
[07:10] <bazhang> !details | abdel
[07:11] <abdel> how do i install GSTreamer element ffdeinterlace
[07:11] <abdel> when I go to software center, it recognises GSTreamer but i can't install it
[07:11] <owh> outerkom: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html-chunk/Monitoring_id264504.html - the big yellow box
[07:12] <Beldar> abdel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arista/+bug/1306592  this may seem familiar
[07:13] <owh> outerkom: Basically the error you're showing is "I tried to do something and it failed." you need to get more detail to debug the problem.
[07:13] <abdel> i get its not available in my current software resources
[07:13] <owh> wilee-nilee: Should that not be wille-coyotee?
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> could be, it's a joke on the way I roll
[07:14] <phyzloc> Now it's one week I've been strugeling with to get the right nvidia drivers for Ubuntu 14.04. It's just not working right
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> owh, I like my facts empirical generally and detailed.
[07:15] <owh> wilee-nilee: You mean, made up?
[07:16] <abdel> this what i get: Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:16] <abdel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:16] <abdel> is only available from another source
[07:16] <abdel> E: Package 'gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg' has no installation candidate
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> owh, never, just the facts if possible here, in research empirical.
[07:17] <Ben64> abdel: use a pastebin if you want to show us anything that spans over 2 or more lines
[07:17] <owh> abdel, the bug that Beldar showed you indicates that gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is obsolete.
[07:19] <owh> abdel: That bug also shows one user with a work-around that works for them. YMMV
[07:22] <atma_> hi
[07:22] <owh> atma_: Welcome to the Ubuntu IRC live helpdesk - now with real humans, how may I direct your query?
[07:23]  * owh needs a !welcome tag ;-)
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> !cookie | owh hows about this
[07:24] <owh> wilee-nilee: Yeah, but that doesn't work for people who come into the room saying "hi".
[07:25] <phyzloc> owh: Don't like Hi's? :-)
[07:25] <owh> phyzloc: Sure, most who do that are new around here, so I like to welcome them in with open arms ;-)
[07:25] <phyzloc> hehe
[07:25] <owh> phyzloc: That's why you didn't get one - you've been here for a week ;-)
[07:26] <phyzloc> I like Hi's.. it reminds me that there are people behind all these texts :-)
[07:26] <owh> phyzloc: Some of them are also human ;-)
[07:27] <phyzloc> hehehe
[07:31] <ofas> what could be a problem, the system clock is getting slower and slower, now it's 20min behind the actual time
[07:31] <owh> ofas: Virtual machine?
[07:31] <ofas> yes
[07:32] <owh> ofas: Virtual Time != Real Time. You need to sync the guest.
[07:32] <owh> ofas: Either using ntp, or virtual guest tools.
[07:33] <owh> I'm currently running Ubuntu 10.04.4 as my desktop inside a VMware Fusion 4.x machine on an OS X 10.6.8 Macbook with 4 external monitors. This works great. I've been unable to make any later version of Ubuntu work. Best case it's slow. Worst case, it crashes VMware. Any ideas on how to figure out what's happening?
[07:33] <Yelu> ofas, open port 123/udp (for ntp time sync), in case your firewall is blocking outgoing traffic
[07:34] <owh> Yelu: While that may be correct, opening a port as a start to troubleshooting would not be my first suggestion, not even my tenth.
[07:35] <fa7ad> owh, is 10.04 still supported?
[07:35] <owh> fa7ad: Technically, no.
[07:35] <Yelu> owh, right, but you wanted to let him use ntp, I added just a hint for a possible issue ...
[07:37] <owh> Yelu: What triggered my concern was that there was an instruction to open the port, rather than: "ntp may need to have the port opened".
[07:37] <Yelu> owh, peace on earth
[07:37] <owh> Yelu: You becha!
[07:38] <Yelu> owh: guests 0 : ubuntu support 1
[07:38] <owh> fa7ad: Actually, it is still supported according to the wiki.
[07:38] <owh> fa7ad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[07:38] <Ben64> owh: not for desktops
[07:39] <owh> Ben64: Heh. (I'm running a server, really ;-)
[07:39] <owh> BTW, I'm not really running a server. I want to get off this unsupported desktop ;-)
[07:40] <owh> Ben64: My purple on purple detector is clearly on the blink.
[07:40] <Ben64> then do so, but the problem likely lies with vmware or osx
[07:40] <owh> Ben64: It appears to be a video issue, rather than a VMware issue. I can make xubuntu, kubuntu and gnobuntu work fine.
[07:41] <owh> Ben64: None of those use Unity ;-)
[07:41] <owh> Can I change the window manager beneath Unity?
[07:42] <Ben64> i don't use unity, not sure
[07:42] <owh> Ben64: What are you using?
[07:42] <Ben64> gnome-fallback
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> owh, unity is a plugin in compiz
[07:43] <owh> wilee-nilee: And compiz doesn't work under VMware. That, or I'm not smart enough to make it work.
[07:43] <owh> Ben64: Does gnome-fallback use compiz or metacity?
[07:43] <Ben64> metacity
[07:43] <owh> Hmm.
[07:43]  * owh fires up the installer in another window.
[07:44] <owh> Ben64: This is under 14.04?
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> owh, Hmm, works in virtualbox, I have never used vmware is all. fallback has use of either
[07:44] <Ben64> owh: i'm on 12.04 still
[07:45] <owh> Bugger.
[07:45] <Ben64> theres a similar thing on 14.04
[07:45] <Ben64> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-classic-gnome-flashback-session
[07:47]  * owh is installing now.
[07:54] <ofas> Yelu, how could i check if the port is open for ntp to get the right time
[07:59] <superjoe_> hi guys
[08:00] <AndChat219225> hello world
[08:00]  * superjoe_ slaps AndChat219225 around a bit with a large trout
[08:02] <afrokarlsson> hello
[08:03] <afrokarlsson> can you tell me some chat channel
[08:04] <jmhodges> hey, i changed my system's hostname and when i ssh into, my home directory is not auto-mounted. any ideas of how to fix that?
[08:04] <superjoe_> hi
[08:04] <jmhodges> well, and rebooted
[08:05] <afrokarlsson> jou must take two blowjobes in one times, and that fixes your brain
[08:05] <owh> !op
[08:06] <owh> Tah
[08:06] <owh> That's the second time today.
[08:06] <superjoe_> what just happened here?
[08:06] <owh> superjoe_: Someone was asked to leave, forcefully.
[08:07] <k1l> owh: i am having a look at. but you can always report that in #ubuntu-ops if no op gets that attention
[08:07] <jmhodges> sorry, my ecryptfs encrypted home directory is not mounted
[08:07] <superjoe_> ah nice
[08:07] <owh> k1l: No, it was sorted the first time that I saw it. Just thought you might want to know.
[08:08] <digi0ps> bazhang: Thanks :)
[08:12] <musshan> hello people :) ubuntu rookie here ;)
[08:12] <superjoe_> hi musshan!
[08:13] <musshan> can anyone help me with sharing files with other users on same computer?
[08:13] <musshan> superjoe: hi :)
[08:13] <musshan> superjoe: can you help me with my query?
[08:14] <superjoe_> sorry, i cannot, i'm drunk
[08:14] <superjoe_> as a matter of principle, i don't do linux drunk
[08:14] <musshan> superjoe: enjoy mate
[08:15] <musshan> can anyone else help me with sharing files with other users on same computer?
[08:16] <Ben64> musshan: whats the problem? put the files anywhere where everyone has permissions
[08:17] <MasterOf1isaster> superjoe_: drunk ircing might be detrimental too, not just drunk linuxing :-P
[08:17] <musshan> Ben64: i have installed lubuntu 14.04 and have 2 users on the computer. I want both of them to access and modify each others entire home directories and their contents
[08:18] <Ben64> thats not a good idea, home directories should be for each individual user
[08:18] <Yelu> ofas, run something like "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org" (takes a little time, returns 0 as exit code, if time sync has been successful), maybe you want read "man ntpdate", i "sudo ufw status" gives "inactive" => ok
[08:18] <musshan> Ben64: okay i want to them to access each others videos, music, downloads folder
[08:19] <musshan> Ben64: is that possible?
[08:19] <Ben64> possible, yes. not a great idea
[08:19] <jmhodges> ah, ah, it was actually just my ssh key login being set up, not the hostname change
[08:20] <superjoe_> MasterOfDisaster; oh drunk ircing is the best!
[08:20]  * superjoe_ becomes supertroll
[08:20] <icest0rm> hi all
[08:20] <Ben64> superjoe_: please don't
[08:20] <bazhang> superjoe_, wrong place for that
[08:21] <icest0rm> is there someone that can assist me on problems with nvidia-x setup?
[08:21]  * superjoe_ is just joking
[08:21] <musshan> Ben64: why is that? i just want to copy the movie from the other user where i downloaded the movie.
[08:21] <MasterOfDisaster> icest0rm: just ask your question.
[08:22] <icest0rm> ok
[08:22] <icest0rm> i'm using a laptop
[08:22] <Ben64> musshan: then use "sudo cp" or a communal download location
[08:22] <icest0rm> with nvidia+intel integrated cards
[08:22] <bazhang> superjoe_, please take *all* chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:22] <icest0rm> ubuntu 14.04
[08:22] <icest0rm> driver nvidia-331
[08:22] <icest0rm> all was working correctly till last days
[08:22] <icest0rm> it is always on docking station
[08:22]  * superjoe_ slaps icest0rm around a bit with a large trout
[08:23] <icest0rm> and i could drive my 34 external monitors
[08:23] <DJones> superjoe_: Please stop that
[08:23] <icest0rm> last day
[08:23] <MasterOfDisaster> musshan: Ben64 is talking about a real multi-user system - with actual people logging in as said users.
[08:23] <icest0rm> i removed it from docking station
[08:23] <icest0rm> and config screwed up
[08:23] <musshan> Ben64: i am a rookie with terminal can you give me an example of how to use sudo cp?
[08:23] <icest0rm> and now i cannot setup back as it was
[08:23] <icest0rm> so i mean
[08:23] <icest0rm> one central monitor with unity dock
[08:23] <icest0rm> and one monitor left and one right
[08:23] <icest0rm> where to place windows
[08:24] <icest0rm> actually central monitor seems to have panning enabled always
[08:24] <musshan> MasterofDisaster: but here i am the actual owner of both the accounts.
[08:24] <Ben64> icest0rm: try fitting more words into one line. its very hard to follow what you're saying when you have a few words every other second
[08:24] <icest0rm> even if i try to disable it with randr
[08:24] <icest0rm> sorry
[08:25] <Ben64> musshan: "sudo cp /path/to/source /path/to/destination" will copy a file
[08:25] <hyde> Hi, can anyone suggest alternative small GUI programming text editors, other than gedit or kate (I'll not get into why I don't want those), with nearly-zero learning curve (which rules out vim/emacs)? basic syntax highlighting is needed, as well as decent autoindent handling. Purpose is to edit C and Makefiles, mostly.
[08:25] <icest0rm> anyway...it seems i cannot set back the config as it was before last day that i removed it from docking and placed then again in it....i mean i want one central monitor with unity dock and two lateral monitors (one on the left and one on the right) where to place windows
[08:25] <musshan> Ben64: and to move? is there a place where i can study these commads?
[08:26] <hyde> ... and "GUI" basically means, opens in it's own window and supports mouse selection
[08:26] <icest0rm> actually the central monitor seems to have panning enabled because if i go to the right with the cursor, image shift
[08:26] <MasterOfDisaster> Ben64: won't using sudo here reset ownership of the new file to root:root?
[08:26] <icest0rm> and i can't disable it...i've tried using randr, nvidia-settings, xorg.conf...nothing works...
[08:26] <Ben64> MasterOfDisaster: yep, which is why i suggested a communal download location
[08:26] <Ben64> !terminal | musshan
[08:26] <hyde> ...and available with apt-get install in 14.04, of course (I wouldn't be asking in this channel otherwise)
[08:27] <musshan> Ben64: also let me know how to create a common directory and set permission for it to be shared
[08:27] <musshan> ubottu: thanks mate :)
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> hyde, leafpad?
[08:28] <icest0rm> no ideas?
[08:28] <icest0rm> is there a dedicated chan for x-config/graphic card problems?
[08:29] <hyde> wilee-nilee: misses syntax highlighting
[08:30] <musshan> Ben64: can you pls let me know how to create a common directory and set permission for it to be shared
[08:30] <musshan> MasterofDisaster: can you pls let me know how to create a common directory and set permission for it to be shared
[08:31] <hyde> I suppose I could go into why I don't want gedit or kate: gedit sometimes seems to enter some kind of buggy mode where it misses every 8th keystroke or so. could be gtk or virtual machine issue too. and installing kate would bring in 100 megs of dependencies, including stuff like gstreamer, which I don't want into this VM image...
[08:31] <Ben64> musshan: make a new group, add your two users to that group, make a directory, make the directory owned by that group, chmod g+s the folder, and done
[08:32] <Ben64> musshan: oh, and you might need to chmod g+w the folder too
[08:33] <musshan> Ben64: thanks i will try it and get back if unable to work it out.
[08:33] <musshan> Thanks you all :) have a great day
[08:33] <vashidu> do you want to build a snowman
[08:34] <Yelu> musshan, other solution, only as an alternative, don't do this one AND Ben64's, okay? 1. open a terminal with [ Ctrl ] + [ Alt ] + [ T ], 2. "sudo adduser <user1> <user2>", 3. "sudo adduser <user2> <user1>" (<= this is only a quick solution and not properly insight to security)
[08:34] <it> pèrro
[08:35] <hyde> ...well, I guess I'll use Qt Creator also as simple text editor, even if it is a bit lacking in some more esoteric text editing features.
[08:35] <musshan> Yelu: okay thanks. but what does this command do?
[08:35] <vashidu> Yelu: couldnt you just make a folder in like /usr/share/groupname and then create the group and then usermod -a -G group user1
[08:35] <vashidu> and repet for each user
[08:35] <agent_white> hyde: Check out gvim :)
[08:36] <hyde> agent_white: I'm not totally helpless with vim, but yesterday I managed to type something funny and destroy some tedious changes I hadn't saved, so I'm giving vim a timeout at the moment ;)
[08:36] <vashidu> oh youd have to chown root:groupname to the folder too
[08:37] <Yelu> musshan, this will add <user1> to the group of <user2> and vice versa, this way the both users have access to the files in both home directories
[08:37] <Ben64> he's gone
[08:37] <agent_white> hyde: Ah! Well that's why I recommended gvim!  No need to use any keybindings at all!  Though if you are interested in learning them, I would recommend vim-adventures.com. I used vim for a year without utilizing the bindings until I played that game for ~1hr.
[08:38] <hyde> agent_white: I'll have to check that out, thanks!
[08:38] <vashidu> yelu the way i posted could work riiight?
[08:38] <agent_white> Now I'm addicted to anything and everything vim-bindings... they feel very natural. Literally, only after playing that game. NOt to mention it's quite fun :)
[08:38] <ofas> Yelu, really stupid question, how can I know if a program returns exit status 0
[08:38] <ofas> :)
[08:38] <Yelu> musshan, read about "/etc/group" and "man useradd" or "man adduser"
[08:38] <ofas> without some if statements in shell programming
[08:39] <agent_white> hyde: Cheers! :)
[08:39] <hpx> echo $?
[08:39] <hyde> agent_white: I've had learning vim properly on my todo-list for a while, but I guess I've never quite managed to cross the line where I'd prefer it over "normal" editors...
[08:40] <hyde> maybe that game link you gave will help me do that
[08:40] <vashidu> hyde: once you get into using vim bindings in your browser
[08:40] <vashidu> it all makes sense
[08:40] <Yelu> ofas, right, friend. - This is only the exit code, that you can check if you use the command in a script. - But you use the comand in the command line, you'll see some output (statistical values), if it succeeded, okay?
[08:40] <agent_white> Ah I see! And it will most definitely!!! I cannot thank it enough for helping me out, and I was a vim user before hand... only really knowing ":w, :q" to get me around :P
[08:41] <Yelu> ofas, ... But ^if you ...
[08:42] <agent_white> vashidu: Indeed! Vim bindings are addictive... I use vimium in chrome, and bound all my keys to vim-bindings in i3.
[08:42] <hyde> my main motivation is, Qt Creator has (supposedly pretty good) fake vim mode, and sometimes it'd just be good to have the power (or the subset allowed by that mode, at least)
[08:42] <agent_white> hyde: How about Sublime text?
[08:42] <agent_white> It would be my personal runner-up to vim if I didn't have the option of a console editor.
[08:43] <somsip> vashidu: frivolous off topic joke: http://is.gd/UrMXoX
[08:43] <hyde> agent_white: I'm addicted to to a parsing C++ autocompletion. I doubt sublime text has that. Also, it's not free.
[08:43] <agent_white> Not sure if Qt Creator is an IDE or text-editor... but Sublime is a text editor as well.
[08:43] <agent_white> hyde: Fair enough!
[08:43] <agent_white> :)
[08:43] <vashidu> somsip: thats funny
[08:43] <vashidu> post that in /g/'s irc
[08:44] <vashidu> youll get some laughs
[08:44] <agent_white> hyde: Maybe say screw it to switching editors. Sounds like Qt Creator works for you well enough!
[08:44] <somsip> vashidu: very naughty of me to do it here so I'll leave it at that
[08:44] <hyde> agent_white: it's IDE. Great for C++, almost as good for C (has trouble with some C99/C11 features) and Javascript, decent for Python.
[08:44] <vashidu> i hate whenever i get on a new os and all they have is vi
[08:44] <vashidu> its like death
[08:44] <vashidu> it doesnt recognize my keybindings
[08:44] <Yelu> vashidu, yes, this is one proper way to do it.
[08:45] <vashidu> i like being proper
[08:45] <vashidu> :)
[08:45] <Yelu> vashidu, :)
[08:45] <vashidu> yelu post your desktop
[08:45] <vashidu> lets see it
[08:45] <Ben64> take all this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:45] <agent_white> vi always feels like vim on crack. I type something and it assumes the next step... like hitting a key in regular mode acts like replace.
[08:46] <agent_white> Too intense.
[08:46] <agent_white> Ben64: Roger that!
[08:47] <Seveas> Ben64: discussions about vim could by considers ubuntu psychological support :-)
[08:48] <vashidu> theres a offtopic channel? whats this? the support channel Ben64 ?
[08:48] <Seveas> vashidu: correct
[08:48] <Seveas> !ot
[08:49] <vashidu> !guidelines
[08:49] <Yelu> vashidu, not possible, sorry, friend (too much "unproper" stuff on it ;) )
[08:49] <jawad> #iptorrents
[08:49] <vashidu> im not even using ubuntu
[08:49]  * agent_white agrees with Seveas
[08:49] <Seveas> vashidu: you should be ashamed :)
[08:49] <vashidu> i use ubuntu at work on servers
[08:49] <vashidu> im very versed in it
[08:52] <vashidu> agent_white: i know what your talking about by that, typed in :wq and then hit escape, was like thanks for the help vi
[08:53] <Yelu> Ben64, => Ben64> he's gone => thank you, they are just too fast for me
[08:53] <agent_white> vashidu: Exactly! It runs faster than you can type!
[08:53] <Ben64> Yelu: that was 16 mins ago
[08:55] <vashidu> Yelu: i sent you a pm
[08:57] <vashidu> Ben64: this channel is so lively o.O i thought id poke some fun, but so straight to bidness
[08:58] <ice9> I'm using headphones with laptop with single audio output, can I use the buitin speakers and headphones at the same time?
[08:59] <k1l> vashidu: this is a 1700 user technical support channel. please stick to support in here. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the chitchat to keep this channel focused on support. thanks
[09:00] <Seveas> ice9: that depends on the laptop. Most laptops don't allow you to do that.
[09:01] <vashidu> ice9: the only way im aware of doing it is using pulseaudio to take care of it, i know in alsa you have options to do such, but not split up what goes where, you would need to take charge of an audio server to do that.
[09:01] <ice9> vashidu: when I connect the headphones, "speakers" is showed as unavailable in pactl list  so may be it's controlled in the hardware?
[09:02] <k1l> ice9: often that is controled from the bios/hardwarewise
[09:02] <vashidu> ice9: mightbe, also might depend on the kernel/modules as that interacts with the hardware, i might have to spin up ubuntu on a spare disk
[09:07] <ElectricPrism> Can someone recommend their favorite GIT GUI Tool for noobs?
[09:08] <MasterOfDisaster> ElectricPrism: eclipse + git plugin :-)
[09:08] <agent_white> ElectricPrism: You know git comes with gitk built-in?
[09:08] <ElectricPrism> agent_white: no I didn't know that, thanks
[09:08] <ElectricPrism> im new @ git
[09:08] <Seveas> ElectricPrism: gitg
[09:08] <agent_white> ElectricPrism: Also, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1516720/git-gui-client-for-linux has TONS of comments.
[09:08] <ElectricPrism> MasterOfDisaster: great, thanks
[09:09] <agent_white> ElectricPrism: It's very handy to see nice flowcharts of what is going on in your project.
[09:09] <Seveas> I also like gource :)
[09:09] <ElectricPrism> Seveas: thanks, I'll give it a look :)
[09:09] <agent_white> Though, don't rely on a git gui... use it as a tool, but know how to do everything in git if need be. Not to mention, eventually you may find yourself preferring the terminal :)
[09:11] <agent_white> ElectricPrism: ALSO!! `gitk` is different from `git gui`... check both out :)
[09:11] <ElectricPrism> agent_white: noted, the thing is I have like 6 tools installed so I'll be glad to narrow it down
[09:12] <agent_white> ElectricPrism: Good deal :) Try out both the ones I mentioned above, they are extremely handy!
[09:12] <agent_white> And built-in, which is a +++
[09:14] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:14] <cristian_c> I'd like to delete all the content on my mp3 player to replace it with my backup folder content
[09:15] <cristian_c> How can I do it?
[09:15] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:16] <vashidu> cristian_c: what kind of mp3 player is it?
[09:17] <cristian_c> vashidu, gogear raga
[09:17] <vashidu> does it pop up when you plug it in to mount it?
[09:18] <cristian_c> vashidu, yes
[09:22] <vashidu> cristian_c: theres a post about it on the forums
[09:22] <vashidu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1708387
[09:22] <prabhu> Hi, I need help in setting up ssh tunnel
[09:27] <cristian_c> vashidu, my problem is different
[09:29] <dp_wiz> prabhu: what kind of tunnel? have you tried gSTM?
[09:32] <prabhu> its a simple tunnel I have 3 servers that is "test-deploy03.pool.sv2.247-inc.net","nexus-repo01.pool.pub.sv2.247-inc.net","shell01.cell.sv2.tellme.com", I want to establist the communication between nexus-repo to test-deploy via shell01
[09:32] <airtonix> oh yeah .... witcher 2 sort of "native" on linux
[09:37] <dp_wiz> prabhu: if you want a persistent duplex connection for multiple ports you should consider openvpn instead. otherwise, for unidirectional single-port connections you can use ssh -L or -R (depends on the direction) to forward a port.
[09:44] <nevyn> prabhu: that's not a simple tunnel.
[09:44] <morph-> could anyone here help me with my ubuntu server? i ended up somehow installing a bunch of kernel images and headers and now i'm stuck booting into this one particular kernel. I just want to revert back to my old one but its a remote server so I can't actuallly see grub when it comes up
[09:44] <nevyn> well maybe
[09:45] <prabhu> @nevyn I'm not shure with that
[09:46] <Arof> hi
[09:46] <Arof> for ubuntu have kloxo ?
[09:46] <Arof> web kontrol?
[09:46] <Arof> or i can install kloxo?
[09:47] <Arof> hey
[09:47] <Arof> for ubuntu have kloxo ?
[09:48] <Yelu> Arof, as far as I know, kloxo is not supported in Ubuntu (CentOS, Red Hat bound).
[09:49] <Arof> http://alternativeto.net/software/kloxo/
[09:49] <Arof> i find alternatif
[09:49] <Sohron> morph-: try editing the grub configuration
[09:49] <Arof> yelo i want alternative
[09:49] <Yelu> Arof, try Zentyal.
[09:49] <morph-> yea i edited /etc/default/grub
[09:50] <morph-> changed it to GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
[09:50] <Sohron> morph-: then what's the problem?
[09:50] <morph-> then cahnged grub-reboot to 3 for example
[09:50] <morph-> but it still continues to boot into this kernel
[09:50] <Arof> thanks yelu
[09:50] <Arof> but what is system requirements  ?
[09:50] <Yelu> Arof, you're welcome ;
[09:50] <Arof> for zentyal?
[09:50] <Sohron> just set the default kernel there morph-, reckon it's possible
[09:50] <Arof> i use vps
[09:51] <Arof> 512mb ram have me
[09:51] <Yelu> Arof, http://www.zentyal.com/
[09:51] <morph-> Sohron http://pastebin.com/LEr1Rs5P
[09:51] <Arof> ok
[09:54] <jae_> check
[09:54] <Sohron> morph-: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43471/how-to-configure-the-linux-grub2-boot-menu-the-easy-way/
[09:54] <morph-> no GUI Sohron
[09:54] <morph-> just command line
[09:54] <Sohron> oh yeah :D
[09:55] <Sohron> well, i'm sure you can change the default kernel for grub, google it, i'm not in the mood :D
[09:55] <Sohron> morph-: ^
[09:58] <Sohron> morph-:http://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry
[09:58] <Sohron> does that help?
[10:00] <vatsal> having dual graphics. amd+intel with amd drivers installed. switched to intel graphics for battery saving and less overheating.. still having fan spinning crazy. anyone having idea?
[10:00] <morph-> not sure
[10:00] <morph-> let me try
[10:00] <vatsal> output of fglrxinfo vatsal@royal:~$ fglrxinfo
[10:00] <vatsal> libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/fglrx/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/fglrx/dri/i965_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[10:00] <vatsal> display: :0  screen: 0
[10:00] <vatsal> OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
[10:00] <vatsal> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile
[10:00] <vatsal> OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.0
[10:00] <unopaste> vatsal you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:01] <merimee> hey
[10:03] <vatsal> anyone?
[10:04] <vatsal> no one? :/
[10:05] <greg5> hi, i have just install ubuntu 14.04, ubuntu see only my gpu radeon 7650, but intell 4000 doesn't. I have install drivers intel 1.0.5 for linux, but nothing happend. Can anybody help me?
[10:17] <morph-> Sohron
[10:17] <morph-> worked
[10:19] <Sohron> morph-: great :)
[10:19] <morph-> never woulda guessed 2>1
[10:19] <morph-> i did like
[10:19] <morph-> default=12
[10:19] <morph-> lol
[10:19] <Sohron> hehhe
[10:19] <morph-> did 2>1 then used apt-get remove to get em all gone
[10:20] <Sohron> aha
[10:21] <morph-> thanks Sohron
[10:21] <morph-> a ton
[10:21] <morph-> i was too tired to think critically
[10:21] <Sohron> no problemo morph- :)
[10:22] <morph-> 3.8.0-41-generic #60~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 16 00:18:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:22] <morph-> very nice to see that
[10:31] <wooosh_sounds> Hi! I'd like to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 now. Sadly that fails! --> sudo do-release-upgrade  … Checking for a new Ubuntu release … No new release found
[10:31] <wooosh_sounds> so: where is trusty thar?
[10:31] <Takanen> Hi, I am trying to boot linuxmint via PXE but kernel goes to panic after the following line: Mounting root file system.. /init: line 250: divide by zero. Any ideas how to fix it?
[10:32] <p5yx> My connection died yesterday, so i have to ask again: I'm using Ubuntu Server which seems to have module signing enabled. if i load a self written module i get the message: "module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel". I didn't even know, Linux now supports signed modules. How can i get rid of error without recompiling the kernel?
[10:32] <Takanen> I have checked that paths on the server are right
[10:32] <dbugger> Hey guys. runinng 14.04. Wasnt ImageMagick in the repositories of Ubuntu? I cant seem to find it...
[10:32] <TJ-> !mint | Takanen
[10:33] <Takanen> Sure thing. Thanks :)
[10:33] <ice9> how to use ALSA directly without pulseaudio?
[10:33] <TJ-> p5yx: It's a warning not an error; your module will work but the 'taint' tells kernel dev's receiving bug reports there's some unverified code in the kernel, so they'll likely ignore the bug report
[10:36] <wooosh_sounds> Does anyone have an idea what's wrong with do-release-upgrade?
[10:36] <Yelu> wooosh_sounds, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[10:36] <p5yx> TJ-: Ok, thx for the info. Anyways, is there a way to get rid of the warning...
[10:36] <ki7mt> Waiting on the point release I think.
[10:38] <jrib> wooosh_sounds: nothing?
[10:38] <wooosh_sounds> hm…
[10:38] <jrib> wooosh_sounds: check your upgrade settings to make sure you have it checking for upgrades
[10:38] <wooosh_sounds> well i use 13.10 - but i get " No new releases found"
[10:39] <jrib> wooosh_sounds: pastebin /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[10:39] <wooosh_sounds> thanks - will do that, jrib
[10:41] <wooosh_sounds> jrib: there is only one option not commented: Prompt=lts
[10:41] <wooosh_sounds> everything else is commented
[10:41] <justme123> Guys, I have narrowed down my Ubuntu server 14.04 installation problem a little more.
[10:41] <jrib> wooosh_sounds: change it to "normal" if you want
[10:41] <wooosh_sounds> jrib: thanks
[10:41] <ice9> how to disable pulseaudio?
[10:41] <justme123> I replaced monitors and on the new monitor I get a better description of the probem.
[10:41] <wooosh_sounds> this will be it hopefully :)
[10:41] <jrib> wooosh_sounds: yes, I think there is also a gui way to change this by the way
[10:42] <justme123> The message I get is that the input timing is not supported on my monitor and that I must change the input timing
[10:42] <justme123> I use a modern Dell monitor and have tried different monitors all with the same error message
[10:43] <justme123> All I want to do is to install a command line version of Ubuntu server 14.04 on my server without any graphics displayed anywhere.
[10:43] <wooosh_sounds> Yay, it starts! :)
[10:43] <wooosh_sounds> thanks for help! :D
[10:43] <justme123> Is there a place in the the install setup where I can tell the installer to install Ubuntu without any funny modes and just give me a root command line?
[10:45] <ThatGuy> anypne here know anything about netcat?
[10:45] <justme123> When I boot to Ubuntu after install completed, everything gets stuck becuase the timing from my video card is not compatible with the monitor. The strange thing is that I can install Windows 7 without any problems.
[10:45] <jrib> justme123: define "funny modes"?
[10:46] <jrib> justme123: if you're installing ubuntu server then you won't get X (I haven't installed 14.04 but I doubt that has changed)
[10:46] <Sohron> ThatGuy: what about netcat?
[10:47] <ThatGuy> Sohron, Do you know how to keep my laptop to keep trying to connect to my desktop even though my desktop not listening. So when i listen the connection starts?
[10:47] <justme123> jrib, X is not installed by default. But for some reason a standard install of Ubuntu server installs it in such a way that the timing of my video card is not compatible with my monitor (any monitor I tried)
[10:48] <jrib> !nomodeset | justme123
[10:48] <jrib> justme123: try that
[10:48] <ki7mt> If ya want a slim install, boot up server image, hit F4, select minimal install.
[10:48] <justme123> I need to somehow specify to the installed to install it with a basic display that will work on my montor. I tried the nomodeset option, but will look at the link again that you mentioned.
[10:49] <jrib> justme123: what are you seeing when you boot?
[10:50] <Sohron> ThatGuy: i guess that's not about netcat, you have to do some kind of "x=true; while($x); do { if (nc host); then { x=false } else { continue} fi } done
[10:50] <justme123> On the one monitor "Cannot Display This Video Mode" and on another "The input timing is not compatible with this monitor. Please change the input timing to a compatible number"
[10:51] <TJ-> p5yx: See https://lwn.net/Articles/588799/
[10:52] <jrib> justme123: does it still continue to boot and show you a login later?
[10:52] <ThatGuy> Sohron, yeah i was thinking that but how to create the script :S
[10:53] <Sohron> ThatGuy: with a text editor?
[10:53] <greybrd> hi guys.. restarting networking service in ubuntu messed up my gtk windows and panel. is that a bug?
[10:54] <ThatGuy> Sohron, I think i know how :D
[10:54] <Sohron> ThatGuy: what were you asking then?
[10:54] <Sohron> 13:52 < ThatGuy> Sohron, yeah i was thinking that but how to create the script :S
[10:55] <xflame> Hi Guys, wanted to know if there is a way to set dns for PPP clients like gnome-ppp ?
[10:56] <justme123> jrib, no it is stuck at that error message. Once out of frustration I slammed several keys on teh keyboard and suddenly the boot continued to the command line. I have since tried to replicate the "slam" that I did but I could not get the combination of keys right again for it to contiunue. It is just something that makes it stuck there. I am busy reading through the link pasted above.
[10:56] <Vladislav> what is appendonly?
[10:56] <jrib> justme123: have you tried just hitting enter?
[10:56] <ThatGuy> Sohron, yeah created he script now thanks for you help :). works well :D
[10:56] <TJ-> ThatGuy: "man nc" ... "-w timeout ..."
[10:57] <jrib> justme123: reading through some threads, it seems like some people have luck with just changing grub display settings
[10:57] <justme123> If I press F6 and select nomodeset, do I then just press enter and it will apply the nomodeset for the install?
[10:57] <Vladislav> immutable means you cannot delete or change file but what is appendonly?
[10:57] <Sohron> ThatGuy: np, and yeah, man nc is a good start as TJ- suggested
[10:57] <justme123> I cannot get to grub
[10:57] <nonuby> odd issue, whenever i start parcellite either via startup items or even alt+f2 (if not running) it opens with the context menu show on the desktop?
[10:57] <jrib> justme123: the thought is that grub is there but you don't see it
[10:57] <jrib> justme123: haven't you installed already?
[10:57] <justme123> If only there was a way to edit grub settings without getting to the command prompt I think I will be able to change the grub settings
[10:58] <jrib> justme123: you could ssh if enter doesn't get you past it
[10:58] <jrib> justme123: or boot a live cd
[10:58] <justme123> enter does not work
[10:58] <jrib> justme123: ok
[10:58] <justme123> Ist there a live CD for Ubuntu server 14.04?
[10:58] <justme123> I used the ISO that I burned to DVD.
[10:58] <jrib> justme123: you don't need a live server cd, you just need any live cd
[10:59] <justme123> O ok. I will try that as well.
[10:59] <Vladislav> When it comes filesystem security, what does AppendOnly mean?
[10:59] <TJ-> justme123: The 'slam' probably caused the pause at "Waiting for mount ... press M for manual, S to skip, or C to continue" message (which you couldn't see) to continue
[10:59] <justme123> jrib, thanks for your advice. I will try these options and see if I come right.
[11:00] <jrib> Vladislav: i would guess that one could only write to a file by writing to the end of it
[11:00] <justme123> mmm, m then s and then c? I will try that combination as well.
[11:00] <Vladislav> jrib: like in the text file?
[11:00] <tukangsapu> help
[11:00] <jrib> Vladislav: any file?
[11:00] <Vladislav> jrib: thanks man=)
[11:01] <justme123> thanks again.
[11:01] <TJ-> justme123: Any one of them, usually
[11:01] <jrib> justme123: good luck
[11:08] <alcides> guys, I have a computer with Ubuntu and I have a router with a cron command to wake it up in the middle of the night using wake-on-lan... it is working pretty fine, but after shutdown it at morning it wakes up again... seems that somehow the magic packet for the wake up still alive in the network, how to fix that?
[11:10] <CatKiller> alcides: packets don't "stay alive on the network" like HPVA in your spine
[11:10] <CatKiller> alcides: Somebody sent another packet maybe
[11:10] <Sohron> indeed
[11:10] <alcides> CatKiller after I have the computer off?
[11:10] <CatKiller> Or the machine woke up for an entirely different reason
[11:11] <CatKiller> I would log all wake on LAN packets at your switch level (if it can do that)
[11:11] <CatKiller> or use a hub (if you have one) and put the machine that monitors the network *before* the machine that needs to be woken up
[11:11] <alcides> How can I monitore the magic packets in my network?
[11:11] <CatKiller> It's not simple
[11:11] <CatKiller> But you could use Wireshark
[11:12] <CatKiller> Sounds like overkill though, maybe see if you can log wake on lan
[11:12] <alcides> CatKiller I see... since it is going by broadcast
[11:12] <CatKiller> see if you can see whether it was really a wake on lan packet, and who it did originate from
[11:12] <CatKiller> I don't think it broadcasts actually
[11:12] <alcides> my cron: 0 0 * * * root /usr/sbin/wol -i 192.168.1.255 -p 7 XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
[11:12] <CatKiller> Sorry I stand correct it is a broadcast packet
[11:13] <alcides> yes, it is
[11:13] <TJ-> alcides: I'd be checking that the BIOS/Firmware Wake-up settings don't include, alongside WoL, some other wake-up such as based on RTC, Alarm, or a USB device
[11:13] <CatKiller> Monitor for the packet using Wireshark then, see who is sending it and when
[11:13] <CatKiller> and what TJ- has been suggesting too
[11:14] <Sohron> tcpdump can do traffic analysis also and is a little more lightweight that wireshark
[11:14] <Sohron> i think it comes with ubuntu base
[11:14] <TJ-> alcides: Does the PC always wake up at the same time in the mornings?
[11:14] <Sohron> well, not traffic analysis, but network traffic dumping to terminal
[11:14] <alcides> TJ- it has an asus motherboard, it only says something like "alow pcie wake"
[11:15] <alcides> TJ- I also have an app in my mobile... when I use it to wake up and shut it down after a time it also turns on again
[11:16] <TJ-> alcides: How long after the system does shutdown, does it wake up again?
[11:16] <alcides> TJ- no... it turns on after shutdowns (when it was turned on by WOL)
[11:16] <alcides> tj- few seconds
[11:16] <alcides> let me get the log
[11:16] <TJ-> alcides: I think you're got a failed to suspend to RAM issue, then
[11:16] <TJ-> alcides: Check "/var/log/kern.log"
[11:16] <Sohron> alcides: what is the shutdown command and it's parameters?
[11:17] <Sohron> hope it's not reboot :p
[11:17] <alcides> Sohron shutdown -h now
[11:17] <alcides> lol
[11:17] <alcides> no its not
[11:17] <Sohron> alcides: that is correct :D
[11:17] <alcides> 5   6   * * *   root    shutdown -h now
[11:17] <alcides> here is it
[11:18] <alcides> in my cron Sohron
[11:18] <linuxthefish> hi, there is big bug in ubuntu key server...
[11:18] <linuxthefish> some security issue
[11:18] <TJ-> alcides: Use "shutdown -P" ... "-h" leaves the choice of halt or power-off to the system
[11:19] <TJ-> linuxthefish: what is it?
[11:19] <Sohron> yeh indeed, -h can make it even reboot after halt
[11:19] <YamakasY> how can I make my mirror smaller ? it's 200GB!
[11:19] <Sohron> press any button to reboot
[11:19] <alcides> TJ-
[11:19] <alcides> May 23 00:00:32 MediaBox kernel: [   16.448339] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[11:19] <alcides> May 23 04:20:32 MediaBox kernel: [15616.200770] perf samples too long (2525 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000
[11:19] <alcides> May 23 06:05:38 MediaBox kernel: [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[11:19] <alcides> from today
[11:20] <TJ-> alcides: Sohron: Indeed, I've seen many systems reboot from "shutdown -h", especially if the firmware ACPI implementation is buggy
[11:20] <alcides> 06:05:38
[11:20] <alcides> after few seconds of the shutdown it started again
[11:20] <alcides> TJ- wow
[11:20] <alcides> I have a problem in acpi
[11:20] <alcides> I have logs of it
[11:20] <alcides> dmesg
[11:20] <TJ-> alcides: As I said above... Use "shutdown -P" ... "-h" leaves the choice of halt or power-off to the system
[11:21] <OS-elemento> anybody to help on playonlinux and wine?
[11:25] <Sohron> OS-elemento: go to a wine support channel if one exists
[11:28] <moshe> Bom dia, pessoal sou novato no ubuntu e tenho um problema
[11:28] <CatKiller> !pt
[11:30] <geirha> OS-elemento: If it's about getting a certain windows program/game to run with wine, then #winehq will likely be a better place to ask
[11:32] <landau> hello i can't write on a disk partition...how to correctly set the right permissions?
[11:32] <ice9> how not to mute speakers when plugging headphones?
[11:39] <Aucdrone> anybody know anything about overlayfs? it fills up when i add stuff to it, but doesnt empty when i delete stuff (according to df Use% column)
[11:40] <Aucdrone> 80% used, +140mb file = 85%, delete 140mb file, still 85%
[11:42] <TJ-> Aucdrone: How do you create the FS? How are you adding/deleting the data?
[11:43] <Aucdrone> TJ-, it's persistent storage on a liveusb, just download a file then delete from file manager and its not in trash either
[11:43] <duckpro> how do I start a service I defined in systemd on Ubuntu 14.04?
[11:45] <TJ-> Aucdrone: It sounds like the file is moved not deleted... I'd recommend testing the same operation from a terminal.
[11:49] <Aucdrone> TJ-: wow i've been trying to figure it out for a while, thats exactly right, it deletes fine if i just rm from terminal
[11:50] <Aucdrone> now to find where all the stuff that didnt get deleted went :p
[11:51] <TJ-> Aucdrone: haha... I get very annoyed by that kind of obfuscation. best best is to do "du -h /path/to/upper_dir" and see where that 140MB lives
[11:54] <jackbrown> is there anybody that can help me to enable HDMI sound output on last UBUNTU 14 ?
[11:56] <nevyn> jackbrown: go to sound settings select hdmi audio output?
[11:56] <jackbrown> ?
[11:56] <jackbrown> there's not hdmi audio autpu
[11:56] <nevyn> is there a hdmi device connected?
[11:57] <nevyn> is there a hdmi output in /proc/asound/cards ?
[11:57] <jackbrown> not now but when it used to be connected I didn't find any HDMI output option into audoo setting
[11:57] <nevyn> ok is there a hdmi device in /proc/asound/cards?
[11:57] <jackbrown> nevyn: how can I check ?
[11:57] <nevyn> cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:58] <jackbrown> nevyn:  0 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
[11:58] <jackbrown>                       HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7a10000 irq 45
[11:58] <nevyn> what's your videocard?
[11:59] <jackbrown> nevyn: I have 2 video card on this system but just once HDA-INTEL is displayed here
[11:59] <jackbrown> it's a laptop with optimus ASUS N56VZ with Nvidia GT650M and Intel HD4000
[11:59] <nevyn> ugh.
[11:59] <jackbrown> nevyn:
[12:00] <nevyn> so it's pretty common for the hdmi port to be wired to the nvidia rather than the intel
[12:00] <jackbrown> nevyn: ok so what should I do to enable it ?
[12:01] <nevyn> so did you display something on it?
[12:02] <simpleuser> Hi. Is there a program to highlight logs (like apache2 logs) or at least make them more readable?
[12:02] <jackbrown> ?
[12:02] <jackbrown> nevyn: what?
[12:03] <MACscr> how do i find out what app on my ubuntu system is listening on port 53? I need to install pdns-recursor, but i dont know what app is already instead to handle that stuff
[12:03] <nevyn> so did the hdmi display have something display on it?
[12:03] <Seveas> MACscr: sudo netstat -plun
[12:03] <nevyn> MACscr: netstat -npl as root ?
[12:05] <MACscr> thanks Seveas!
[12:06] <geirha> simpleuser: Have you tried (GNOME) System Log Viewer?
[12:08] <simpleuser> geirha: I’m using LXDE (Lubuntu).
[12:08] <mansor> question :) .... cam a wireless or bluetooth pci device be fused from the other side of motherboard (backside)   and run the device in background not showing in front ??????????????
[12:08] <mansor> ad deamon
[12:09] <Beto_> bitch
[12:09] <mansor> any?
[12:10] <mansor> question :) .... cam a wireless or bluetooth pci device be fused from the other side of motherboard (backside)   and run the device in background not showing in front ??????????????
[12:10] <mansor> question :) .... can a wireless or bluetooth pci device be fused from the other side of motherboard (backside)   and run the device in background not showing in front ??????????????
[12:10] <abhinavmehta> How to overcome this access error: https://dpaste.de/n2Yw ?
[12:10] <abhinavmehta> simple git clone issue
[12:11] <nevyn> mansor: huh?
[12:11] <mansor> yeah = i was like huh but i think you can do it some how
[12:12] <amigamagic> hi, someone knows why I cannot found anymore my samba shares in ".gvfs" folder? With nautilus I can see them, when I explore the network, but in the ".gvfs" folder in my home dir I cannot access them anymore.
[12:12] <abhinavmehta> anyoe on git clone error?
[12:12] <nevyn> are you talking about doing malicious hardware modification.
[12:12] <mansor> yes
[12:12] <Seveas> abhinavmehta: don't be impatient
[12:13] <Seveas> abhinavmehta: you're cloning as www-data but are trying to read /home/deploy -- set $HOME correctly.
[12:14] <rmd_1>       yeahgrrr
[12:14] <mansor> i need to locate a device on a dell 745 .. its aether under mother board or somewhere in fan
[12:14] <nevyn> mansor: sure. I could attach a usb bluetooth dongle under a motherboard without it being visible on top
[12:14] <nevyn> trivial
[12:15] <mansor> ok good what about sending data - it would show some where in sys
[12:15] <rmd_1> use binoculars
[12:15] <mansor> nevyn
[12:15] <nevyn> well it'd still show in lsusb and stuff
[12:16] <mansor> its not showing  sockets or with lshw or lsusb
[12:17] <rmd_1> halabaloo
[12:17] <fxguy1337420> hello, can you recommend a good RSS reader with bubble notification that compatible with 14.04?
[12:17] <nevyn> mansor: the chances of someone perpetrating this kind of attack are pretty unlikely
[12:18] <nevyn> do you mean physically locate?
[12:18] <rmd_1> lsusb is retarded
[12:18] <Seveas> fxguy1337420: I like liferea
[12:20] <fxguy1337420> Seveas: does it support "bubble notifications"?
[12:20] <Seveas> if you mean the popups in the top right corner, then yes
[12:20] <nevyn> rmd_1: this is true.
[12:20] <k1l> !guidelines | rmd_1 please be helpful in here
[12:20] <fxguy1337420> Seveas: thanks, thats what i am looking for
[12:26] <samir_> salut
[12:26] <asdofindia> salut samir_
[12:33] <p5yx> how can i recompile my kernel without having module signing enabled?
[12:50] <rp2> hello word ... I'm looking for a supported way to permanently re-enable apache in Ubuntu 12.04
[12:51] <rp2> I'd use chkconfig, but it is not installed - is it deprecated?
[12:58] <lestrada> set nick LnrdStrd
[13:00] <Aussie_matt> Hi all: Im having mdadm trouble. As far as I can tell the arrays are assembled and active, but I cannot mount them or access them. Can anyone help?
[13:03] <morpheus7> hi - i've disabled ldap client from a ubuntu install, by editing /etc/nsswitch.conf. however i still see this for sudo fails [sudo: pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP server]. where can i stop sudo from trying to talk to ldap?
[13:04] <napcode> rp2: something like "sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 enable" should do the trick
[13:06] <hyperreal> Does anybody know if the rumor is true that Ubuntu will switch to systemd eventually?
[13:07] <napcode> hyperreal: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
[13:07] <hyperreal> napcode:  Thanks.
[13:11] <Werkena> How do I make sure that when a service e.g. apache stops to restart whenever it stops
[13:12] <strigga> howdy. I am trying to launch a Java Programme and it throws the error message "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"". That module is installed. Any idea where to look at?
[13:12] <strigga> U 14.04 LTS
[13:14] <diamonds> I just put 14 on my box
[13:14] <diamonds> it was 12
[13:14] <daftykins> diamonds: please type on one line
[13:15] <diamonds> I have an SSD which I put 12g into swap & the rest as EXT4 primary partition (left default) installed 14 via unetbootin.  I also have an HDD with Windows on it, Grub was managing this.  Now I boot to the main disk & nothing.
[13:15] <Werkena> Hi, How do I make sure whenever a service/daemon stops by some reason to get restarted
[13:15] <davis> hello
[13:15] <diamonds> is it because the first partition I made was swap? maybe that's it
[13:16] <davis> which file contains the list of runlevels?
[13:16] <sufyan> hi
[13:17] <gestahlt> Hi
[13:17] <sufyan> hi
[13:17] <gestahlt> I have a rather generic question
[13:17] <sufyan> ok
[13:17] <gestahlt> I like to set up a mail server (POP, IMAP, SMTP)
[13:17] <sufyan> ok
[13:18] <gestahlt> Now i like to have proper tls support for SMTP
[13:18] <sufyan> ok
[13:18] <gestahlt> What is the correct way to issue certificates and sign them?
[13:20] <strigga> howdy. I am trying to launch a Java Programme and it throws the error message "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"". That module is installed. Any idea where to look at? (14.04LTS)
[13:23] <davis> telinit 1 results in this ubuntu box showing the ubuntu x window progress screen, but never switches to just single user mode
[13:24] <robcsi> hi. has anyone succeeded in installing Artha on Ubuntu 14.04? I get an error like this "Unable to correct missing packages. E: Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wordnet/wordnet-base_3.0-32_all.deb  Hash Sum mismatch"
[13:25] <darin_1> Got an issue driving me nuts. 2 machines ( formerly Barracuda 310's). Installed Zenryal on one. runs fine. Installed Ubuntu 14 on other. When it gets to log on screen or just after opening desktop, system freezes with screen full of diagonal dashed lines. Have to kill power to recover. Has anyone dealt with that before?
[13:27] <abhinavmehta> Seveas: thank you mate
[13:27] <abhinavmehta> Seveas: for user like www-data or nobody, who has no $HOME, where should I point to?
[13:31] <leex> hi my do-release-upgrade fails with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7505633/ trying to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10
[13:31] <leex> does anyone have an idea?
[13:33] <Beldar> darin_1, This occur first thing on reboot after install, or is the a cause and effect you know of?
[13:33] <Beldar> there
[13:34] <KGM70>  G'Day
[13:34] <desimal> Hi!
[13:35] <desimal> Could some one already have good config for cs1.6 on steam ( Linux Mint)
[13:35] <desimal> ?
[13:35] <darin_1> Happened since both initial installs. First time tried Ubuntu Gnome desktop. Thought maybe that was issue. Tried the other Ubuntu desktop. Same thing. Did notice that if I can get to TTY2 before it freezes I can work from shell but then desktop is not there afterwards
[13:35] <KGM70> !mint
[13:35] <Beldar> leex, Do you have any PPA's? If you tweak ubuntu enough this can happen.
[13:35] <leex> Beldar: I guess, let me check
[13:36] <diamonds> I think my issue was making swap the 1st partition
[13:37] <diamonds> caused it to not want to boot
[13:37] <KGM70> diamonds, it makes no difference where you place the swap file
[13:37] <diamonds> partition
[13:38] <leex> Beldar: only google music manager
[13:38] <KGM70> err partition
[13:38] <diamonds> KGM70, well whatever happened, I went back with unetbootin & did the same install process, flipping the partition order....
[13:38] <diamonds> maybe I marked the swap a `primary`? I forget exactly
[13:38] <Beldar> !bootinfo | diamonds
[13:38] <diamonds> but it would *not* even laod grub before
[13:38] <diamonds> thanks Beldar !
[13:39] <KGM70> unetbootin can be unreliable diamonds, I know from personal experience
[13:39] <Beldar> diamonds, THat is not a fix, just a script to run to generate a script for diagnosing, copy and paste all of it to a pastebin.
[13:40] <Beldar> leex, Ah, any other 3rd party installs of the web?
[13:40] <Beldar> off*
[13:41] <desimal> Thank you )
[13:42] <leex> Beldar: nope
[13:44] <leex> Beldar: I hand an .un~ file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ deleted it and now it works :)
[13:44] <leex> Beldar: thanks :)
[13:45] <Beldar> leex, Cool, you the hero here, I just pointed, look it's elvis!!!
[13:45] <Beldar> your*
[13:46] <Werkena> Hi, How do I make sure whenever a service e.g. apache stops to make sure it be restarted again.....apart from using cron to check on a timely basis.
[13:48] <esde> Werkena, have you checked google?
[13:49] <Beldar> Werkena, THere is a #ubuntu-server channel as well, just info. ;)
[13:49] <Werkena> esde: yes, but still not successful.
[13:50] <Werkena> beldar: Thanks I have added it now.
[13:51] <Beldar> cool
[13:51] <Krishnamurti> how to use the newsgroup?
[13:51] <Wnt> Werkena: usually it's not a good idea to autorestart services: http://serverfault.com/a/506211
[13:52] <esde> Werkena: http://bit.ly/1me0Eoj
[13:53] <Wnt> Werkena: but I think one could use puppet to make sure a service such as apache is always running
[13:54] <Werkena> Wnt: I know that but there are also instances where the sysadmin wants to ....e.g. just unpluging a wifi usb AP and replugging it would make hostapd to freez/stop....so I have to restart it ....or if some how the usb wifi is pluged after the hospad already started, it wouldn't restart itself.....so I wanted it in such like scenario....
[13:55] <Wnt> Werkena: I think I read somewhere that puppet can also manage service dependencies in that kind of scenarios
[13:55] <harry> my system speaks whatever i do
[13:56] <Werkena> Wnt: can you detail me when you say "using puppet..."
[13:56] <Wnt> Werkena: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet_%28software%29
[13:56] <harry> whenever i change directory or so anything ubuntu speaks that, can anybody help me to stop that
[13:57] <Wnt> Werkena: there are also other tools similar to puppet, but I think it's the most popular choise
[13:59] <digi0ps> Everytime  I boot into Ubuntu it directly takes me into my account without my password! I want to disable this and make it ask the password everytime.
[13:59] <digi0ps> Anyone help please!
[14:00] <Seveas> digi0ps: in the system settings, edit your user account and switch off automatic login
[14:09] <Beldar> Hi harry can you restate that a little more clearly?
[14:12] <harry> Beldars: ystem speaks whaterer i do  ex.when i increase the volume it speaks volume 90%
[14:13] <harry> Beldar: ystem speaks whaterer i do  ex.when i increase the volume it speaks volume 90%
[14:13] <churchill> Hi. Anyone using vsftpd?
[14:13] <Werkena> Wnt: I think I have to use "respawn" in the upstart (init.d) of the scritp (hostapd) https://forums.plex.tv/index.php/topic/109449-respawn-on-crash/
[14:14] <Kvaks> What's the right ubuntuforums subforum to post about RAID and filesystems?
[14:15] <ddsss> suddenly html5 audio on youtube in firefox and chrome play 2x as fast. why?
[14:15] <ddsss> ^ I don't have flash plugin installed.
[14:17] <harry> hello, my ubuntu is giving(speaking) commentary of whatever i do, like when i open terminal it says terminal window opened
[14:17] <harry> can anybody help me
[14:18] <compdoc> harry, heh. Never knew it could do that
[14:18] <Beldar> harry, Is english your first language?
[14:18] <harry> yes
[14:18] <bcvery> harry, sounds like your 'Screen Reader' is on, you can turn this off under settings Universal Access, Seeing
[14:19] <heropon_55> harry: Your computer has become sentient. I suggest making friends
[14:19] <Beldar> lol
[14:19] <harry> let me check
[14:19] <compdoc> pull the plug - its Skynet!!
[14:20] <Beldar> !ot | compdoc
 lol  <- uh huh
[14:21] <asdofindia> of course, skynet is not ubuntu-related.
[14:21] <Chofman> hello, I have a problem with DNS servers on Ubuntu Server.
[14:22] <digi0ps> Okay. I got it working.
[14:22] <asdofindia> Hello Chofman, what is your problem with DNS servers?
[14:22] <Chofman> While "nslookup ubuntu.com 1.2.3.4" works, "ping ubuntu.com" doesn't. Contents of /etc/resolv.conf are "nameserver 1.2.3.4" and nothing else.
[14:22] <asdofindia> Congrats digi0ps!!
[14:24] <Chofman> I am confused of where else can Ubuntu take dns address from, or if maybe nslookup uses TCP / the other UDP. It can be the case with this, since firewalls are quite restrictive here.
[14:25] <ikonia> Chofman: nslookup = name server looking, ping = libresolve
[14:25] <ikonia> libresolve is normally the name servers too, but can be other things
[14:25] <ikonia> libresolv (not sure from memory if it's libresolve or libresolv)
[14:26] <Chofman> ikonia: so where should I put my dns address so libresolve can find it?
[14:26] <Chofman> or how can I debug this libresolve more closely?
[14:26] <hj> hello
[14:27] <hj> pps?
[14:27] <ikonia> Chofman: what are you actually trying to resolve ?
[14:27] <Beldar> hj, Hi, do you have a clear issue we can help with?
[14:28] <luigi888> !list
[14:29] <dw1> luigi888: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[14:29] <Chofman> ikonia: I want to be able to ping any domain that I am able to find on my DNS server (which I established I have connection to and is working with nslookup)
[14:29] <ikonia> Chofman: what is your dns server
[14:29] <Chofman> ikonia: I used ubuntu.com as an example.
[14:30] <Chofman> ikonia: it's in my company's intranet, 1.2.3.4 is also placeholder.
[14:30] <ikonia> Chofman: ok, so what is in /etc/swwitch.conf
[14:30] <TJ-> Chofman: what does "grep  '^hosts' /etc/nsswitch.conf" report?
[14:30] <ikonia> nsswitch.conf
[14:30] <ikonia> sorry
[14:30] <ikonia> typo
[14:31] <TJ-> Chofman: firstly, how does 'ping' fail? Unable to resolve hostname? Connection times out?
[14:31] <Chofman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7505836/
[14:31] <Chofman> these are contents of /etc/nsswitch.conf
[14:32] <ikonia> yeah the ping error message would be useful
[14:32] <TJ-> Chofman: You have no dns on there, the hosts line that used it has been commented out, and there is a comment about it being removed
[14:33] <ikonia> which is why nslookup works, but ping doesn't
[14:33] <TJ-> Chofman: Instead there is only "hosts: files" - End result means entry in "/etc/hosts" or failure
[14:33] <Chofman> TJ-: thanks, I noticed, unfortunately MJ is no longer working here - but dead DNS lookups shouldn't be an issue anymore
[14:33] <Chofman> ping shows
[14:33] <Chofman> unkown host
[14:33] <TJ-> Chofman: I'd suggest simple reverting that change
[14:37] <scotty> k scotty^
[14:39] <scotty^> bwah-ha-ha-ha-haa
[14:41] <anl> I have a really big tar file on my ubuntu box. Can I extract it so that its destination is a different directory?
[14:41] <Corey> anl: Yes you can. man tar explains how.
[14:43] <harry> i have downloaded java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh from oracle site, when i install it it gice error that "no suitable jar found"
[14:43] <harry> whats the solutions
[14:44] <Beldar> !java | harry
[14:46] <Brandano> Good afternoon. I am trying to install Ubuntu (server, 14.04) on a machine, but the installer seems to have placed the /boot partition on the usb stick I used for the install, even though the system is properly installed in /dev/sda. Is there a way I can move the boot partition and still have a working system or should I just bite the butllet and let the installer re-partition sda?
[14:47] <Brandano> Apparently reusing partitions does not quite work as intended, at least as far as detecting /boot
[14:48] <compdoc> Brandano, thats an odd thing
[14:49] <Brandano> yep. maybe my image isn't properly set on the USB drive. But rebooting with the liveusb does not prompt me for the live options and gives me a login screen
[14:49] <Brandano> where the user and password set during install are recognized. Booting from sda gives me a file read error
[14:50] <Beldar> Brandano, Boot to the cli using the usb and we can load grub from there.
[14:50] <Brandano> Beldar: right now the machine is booted and I have it in ssh in another terminal
[14:50] <Beldar> otherwise it is a chroot
[14:51] <Beldar> Brandano, The HD sda?
[14:51] <Brandano> it's a server distro, so there's only the CLI
[14:51] <Brandano> Beldar: yep. that's the odd thing
[14:51] <darin_1> Brando, rerun the installer and before you finish go back into the grub part and tell it no and specify /dev/sdb    just had that same issue
[14:51] <Beldar> Brandano, sudo grub-install /dev/sda ; sudo up-fate-grub   no sudo if you are in root.
[14:52] <Beldar> sudo update-grub  doh
[14:53] <Brandano> Beldar: thanks. I am glancing at fstab to see what actually is meant to be mounted as /boot
[14:53] <Brandano> Since I do have an entry for it, which seems a tad odd
[14:53] <Brandano> Thinking about commenting it out
[14:55] <Chofman> TJ-: ikonia: a weird thing happened. I have two ubuntu servers which were in this situation and made these changes to. One started working after changing hosts: line to files dns, the second still doesn't work.
[14:56] <j2daosh> what is the term for timezones in the format America/New York?
[14:56] <j2daosh> when i search for timezones, it just gives me the codes and offsets, not the region definition information
[14:56] <Chofman> nslookup works on both, resolv.conf is identical on both, changes to /etc/nsswitch.conf helped one of them, the other is still the same.
[14:57] <Beldar> j2daosh, what are you trying to change the time with?
[14:57] <j2daosh> perl
[14:57] <j2daosh> date time
[14:57] <Pici> j2daosh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones
[14:58] <j2daosh> marvelous. that was exactly what i was looking for. Thank you very much for that info pici
[14:58] <Pici> np
[14:58] <Chofman> I know that at this time it looks like I made a typo on one of the machines, but checking all the time I don't see a difference.
[14:59] <speaker1234> I'm looking for a way to create accounts on multiple machines. I'm looking for a distributed/non-centralized way of doing something like the old NIS service.
[15:00] <Chofman> is there maybe a way to check logs for DNS lookups made? Are there some kind of error messages somewhere, e.g. syslog?
[15:00] <sysop3> hi how can I tell which process is sending out emails?
[15:01] <speaker1234> The back story is I have a network of about 30 or 40 machines. About 10 of them are stable the rest are test boxes are currently being destroyed and reconfigured. I would like to get away from running add user all of them and still be able to keep the user ID group ID pairing the same on all machines
[15:01] <bahz> hi ... do anybody know if there are a channel on IRC abot IRC ?  I have some problem register a nic
[15:01] <speaker1234> Chofman: It depends on what DNS server you're using
[15:02] <speaker1234> susundberg: The simplest ways with  netstat -natp
[15:02] <speaker1234>  
[15:02] <speaker1234> oops
[15:03] <Guest40989> Can someone help me with generating an SSL certificate? I am presenting an error. // Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS
[15:04] <Guest40989> 139784729020064:error:04075070:rsa routines:RSA_sign:digest too big for rsa key:rsa_sign.c:127:
[15:04] <Guest40989> 139784729020064:error:04075070:rsa routines:RSA_sign:digest too big for rsa key:rsa_si
[15:08] <JHOSMAN_> Can someone help me with generating an SSL certificate? I am presenting an error.
[15:09] <JHOSMAN_> ~$ openssl req -new -key server.key -out server.csr
[15:09] <JHOSMAN_> 139784729020064:error:04075070:rsa routines:RSA_sign:digest too big for rsa key:rsa_sign.c:127:
[15:09] <Pici> JHOSMAN_: don't use 512-bit RSA key.
[15:10] <juanjo> alguien quye hables español???
[15:10] <Pici> !es | juanjo
[15:10] <JHOSMAN_> juanjo: que necesitas?
[15:11] <juanjo> bajar un programa, se que ya biene instalado un programa como el torrent para bajar cosas de int pero no lo encuentro
[15:11] <JHOSMAN_> Pici: i use 256 bits
[15:11] <Pici> JHOSMAN_: thats way too little. You need at least 1024 or more.
[15:11] <KGM70> !es | juanjo
[15:12] <JHOSMAN_>  Pici  156  openssl  genrsa -out server.key 256
[15:13] <JHOSMAN_> Pici: ok a moment please :)
[15:15] <harry> $ sudo sh java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh  Extracting the installer archive... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 214: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer runtime... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 242: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer resources... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 244: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin
[15:15] <harry> getting this error while installing oracle jdk JavaEE
[15:16] <harry> $ sudo sh java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh  Extracting the installer archive... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 214: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer runtime... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 242: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer resources... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 244: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin
[15:16] <JHOSMAN_> juanjo: ?
[15:16] <Beldar> harry, Dis you look at the bot's java link?
[15:16] <Beldar> Did*
[15:16] <harry> yes
[15:16] <harry> but it was for .tar
[15:16] <Beldar> harry, It gives you an install.
[15:17] <harry> tried that
[15:17] <JHOSMAN_> Pici: Thanks!
[15:17] <harry> Beldar: no luck :(
[15:17] <Beldar> harry, what happened when you tried, the tar is failing as well.
[15:18] <harry> actually i am installing JavaEE jdk and on oracle  site there is onlly .sh file for that not tar
[15:19] <jhutchins> harry: The problem is that sudo only works for the initial command.  Commands launched by the script do not have root permission.
[15:19] <Beldar> harry, Could have sworn it was sdk before.
[15:19] <jhutchins> harry: You need to open a shell as root to run the script.  There are several ways to do so.
[15:20] <harry> so how can i login as root, i am new to linux
[15:20] <Rory> !sudo | harry
[15:21] <jhutchins> harry: Other people may object, but I just do sudo bash.
[15:21] <cfhowlett> harry|root|
[15:22] <Beldar> harry, sudo -i for a root terminal.
[15:22] <harry> k
[15:23] <Beldar> harry, "Root Login" is a trigger here we don't do that unless that is the only option, just a syntax error.
[15:24] <Beldar> language syntax that is
[15:25] <harry> same error even wint root
[15:25] <harry> sh java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh Extracting the installer archive... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 214: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer runtime... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 242: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer resources... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 244: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Pe
[15:25] <juanjo> necesito bajar un programa "vivard" se que hay un programa que ya trae instalado linux torrent, como hago para bajarlo de hay??
[15:25] <cfhowlett> harry sudo sh java...yada yada yada
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !es|juanjo
[15:25] <Beldar> harry, Pastebin thew whole terminal info.
[15:26] <harry>  sh java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh Extracting the installer archive... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 214: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer runtime... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 242: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer resources... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 244: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: P
[15:26] <sysop3> how can I tell which script is sending out emails?
[15:26] <Beldar> sysop3, Context?
[15:27] <harry> Beldar: did u see it
[15:27] <speaker1234> sysop3: netstat -natp
[15:27] <sysop3> beldar ok I have some acienct automated process that is sending emails every few minutes.
[15:27] <speaker1234> look for the program that is connected to :25
[15:27] <sysop3> ok speaker will try that.
[15:27] <sysop3> thanks
[15:27] <Beldar> harry, I meaqn when you run the commands you are and get info in the terminal copy and paste all of it to a pastebin.
[15:28] <Beldar> !pastebin | harry
[15:29] <harry> ubotta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506023/
[15:30] <Beldar> harry, Just a guess but no cd?
[15:31] <harry> did no get it
[15:31] <harry> ????
[15:31] <Beldar> harry, Anyway, that might be more helpful to the others looking.
[15:31] <Brandano> Thanks Beldar, reinstalling and re-configuring grub seems to have worked just fine without me messing about with fstab
[15:31] <analog> anyone use -DOSREL=blah in their automount configuration on ubuntu?
[15:32] <analog> mine seems to be ignoring the -D options complely
[15:32] <Beldar> Brandano, Cool, yeah that fstab info was a bit confusing as is without knowing the partition setup, at least for me.
[15:32]  * Brandano had to recover broken grub installs ages ago with the chroot "trick"
[15:32] <harry> beldar: what next?
[15:32] <analog> although it does see it: /usr/sbin/automount -DOSREL=2.6
[15:32] <Brandano> Beldar: well, I had /boot mapped to an ext2 partition identified by UUID, but it did match sda
[15:33] <Beldar> harry, Not an area I can give you an exacting answer, the other two helpers know this better, point that url at them, ubottu is a bot, it is not sentient. ;)
[15:33]  * JesseH wondering why he has choppy framerate playing an opengl game
[15:34] <Brandano> But at least it's not downright idiotic as some people :)
[15:34] <Beldar> Brandano, Really a boot partition, I thought that went out with the charleston. ;)
[15:34] <harry> ubottu cfhowlett : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506023/
[15:34] <Brandano> Don't know why. But there's good reasons for it, for broken bios support of large drives, for examlpe
[15:35] <Brandano> in this case drives are fairly small, but there's a fakeraid controller in teh way
[15:35] <harry> common guys, don't embarrass me
[15:35] <Beldar> Brandano, True old enough setups will only read so far on a HD.
[15:35] <Brandano> on my home machine I have several different partitions for different parts of the filesystem to make good use of an SSD
[15:35] <cfhowlett> harry get out of root.  run the command with sudo
[15:36] <Brandano> cfhowlett: just make sure you have some sort of root prompt if you are installing bind9...
[15:37] <xeonid> Brandano: i've one question , is there any way to mount /home and /usr/ on one partition ?
[15:37] <Brandano> if the machine can't resolve its own name sudo breaks. In a nasty way
[15:37] <Beldar> harry, no embarrassment here, we all have been there at some point. ;)
[15:37] <harry> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506059/
[15:37] <Brandano> xeonid: both on one partition?
[15:38] <Brandano> xeonid: but separated from other parts of the filesystem?
[15:38] <xeonid> Brandano: yep, because i want to have this directories on larger partition
[15:38] <cfhowlett> harry download the package again and hashsum check to verify integrity
[15:38] <xeonid> Brandano: yep
[15:38] <Brandano> Well, you can have each on its own partition, but not two paths on the same level on the same partition
[15:38] <Brandano> you can play with symlinks, though
[15:38] <TJ-> Brandano: Or use btrfs with subvolumes
[15:38] <xeonid> Brandano: thanks ,
[15:39] <Brandano> though that might cause trouble in some cases
[15:39] <harry> downloaded two times, same result
[15:39] <harry> its ubuntu 14.04 BTW
[15:39] <cfhowlett> harry so you did NOT verify package integrity?
[15:39] <Brandano> symlinking might cause trouble. btrfs I have to look into
[15:39] <harry> no
[15:39] <cfhowlett> harry ...
[15:39] <harry> how to do that
[15:40] <cfhowlett> harry go to the download page.  somewhere should be SHA/HASHSUM/MD5SUM
[15:41] <Brandano> harry: generate a checksum and compare it to the one on the download page.
[15:41] <ctmjr> harry:sudo chmod +x java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh then  sudo ./java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh
[15:42] <Brandano> btrfs apparently is still marked as experimental. Probably perfectly fine to use on an home desktop, though
[15:43] <TJ-> harry: The issue is "Permission denied", and the current working directory is "/media/harish/Educational". Directories under "/media/$USER" are usually mount-points for some external device. If that device is read-only, or is mounted read-only, then "Permission denied" when trying to extract and create files from an archive would be expected
[15:43] <harry> TJ: may be, where should i move it
[15:44] <Brandano> xeonid: I think the simplest option for you would be to boot on a live distro, shift the files about and replace the paths with symlinks. it's an ugly hack that will probably work
[15:44] <harry> TJ: but once i ran command using root,
[15:45] <Brandano> xeonid: the proper way would be to have separate partitions for them, and eventually resize them if the need arises
[15:45] <TJ-> harry: You'd best read the installer instructions for that
[15:46] <Brandano> This also allows you to choose a filesystem according to the task
[15:46] <Joel> do init scripts log somewhere? I see a log_daemon_msg being called
[15:47] <Brandano> Joel: syslog?
[15:47] <Brandano> I think it depends on who wrote the script
[15:47] <walrus_1> ls
[15:47] <harry> missing windows here
[15:48]  * Brandano misses windows so much that he prefers to run irssi in a puttyterminal when using windows 7
[15:49] <boy_wanders> hello, I'm having a sound problem in Ubuntu 14.04
[15:49] <Beldar> !sound | boy_wanders
[15:51] <killer> Hey , I m trying to format a usb and it fails to do so in gparted and disk utility and the error it gives  is daemon is inhibited .
[15:51] <boy_wanders> ah thanks Beldar, turns out the headset I'm using stops emmitting sound at like 20% max volume
[15:51] <speaker1234> this is ndirectly ubuntu.  Does sshd support putting public keys for all the accounts in one directory?
[15:51] <speaker1234> Specifically the public keys
[15:52] <boy_wanders> !players
[15:53] <xtimus> hi
[15:53] <Brandano> oh, talking about sound, is there some component for xubuntu-desktop that will handle multimedia HID inputs? like the volume tumbler from my keyboard and headphones?
[15:53] <Beldar> killer, Is it mounted?
[15:54] <terraformer_> hey guys, anybody has experience with installing openvpn and/or cyberghost vpn on linux?
[15:54] <killer> Beldar: No it is n't mounted
[15:55] <honganh> anyone help me please
[15:55] <honganh> i can not empty trash
[15:55] <Beldar> honganh, THis a root trash?
[15:55] <jhutchins> terraformer_: Lots of people use VPN on linux, what's your actual question?
[15:55] <honganh> no, local trash
[15:56] <honganh> at ~/.local/share/Trash
[15:56] <cpined> hello..world cup coming up...any ideas how to get Hauppauge 850 to work on ubuntu?
[15:56] <jhutchins> honganh: Which desktop?  What release?
[15:56] <honganh> i using ubuntu 14.04
[15:56] <Brandano> terraformer_: actually, I got OpenVPN installed on OpenWRT, which is in itself rather cool, but probably not what you need
[15:57] <honganh> natilus
[15:57] <terraformer_> jhutchins, I don't know how to install it - says in network manager or what's its name :), that I have only PPTP, i dont have OpenVPN, and cyberghost requires OpenVPN
[15:58] <terraformer_> jhutchins, on the Ubuntu support there is the terminal command with other things to do after for setting a bridge and so on, I don't know if I need to do that
[15:58] <Brandano> terraformer_: if you only need to have it installed rather than actually configured to do something useful you can run an "apt-cache search openvpn" and see what package provides it
[15:58] <TJ-> terraformer_: first you'd need to install the networkmanager-openvpn package
[15:59] <brunim> Hello guys, sorry to interrupt. I hope you don't mind me asking some help with dual booting, specifically making windows 8 boot after I've installed ubuntu 14.04. I've got the paste and everything.  I'm sorry if this is not how these things are done, first time here.
[15:59] <TJ-> terraformer_: "sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn-gnome" will pull in the GUI applet and the core dependencies necessary
[16:00] <Beldar> brunim, paste of?
[16:00] <brunim> My boot repair
[16:00] <Beldar> brunim, Lets see that. ;)
[16:00] <terraformer_> TJ-, doing that right now..
[16:00] <brunim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506042/
[16:01] <brunim> I hope it's helpful?
[16:02] <jhutchins> brunim: What's the actual problem?
[16:02] <Brandano> probably missing grub
[16:02] <brunim> jhutchins: It won't let me boot into windows
[16:02] <Brandano> oh, misconfigured grub, then
[16:02] <brunim> I can log into ubuntu just fine
[16:02] <brunim> In fact, I'm here :D
[16:03] <brunim> But I'd like if I could keep my windows for just a bit longer xD
[16:03] <terraformer_> TJ-, is only apt-get install network-manager-openvpn sufficient to create a OpenVPN connection type or I have to install something else?
[16:03] <Brandano> heh, I don't know much about Windows8. I remember that in the past you had to repair and resize the MBR
[16:04] <brunim> Brandano, it is misconfigured yeah. Last time I did this the Bootrepair fixed it ,not   sure why it didn't work.
[16:04] <TJ-> brunim: Brandano nothing to do with grub; this is an EFI system... the firmware boots each OS directly
[16:04] <Brandano> but so far I never had to fight with stuff like UEFI
[16:04] <JHOSMAN_> Pici:  You know as add the certificate SSL at Alfresco?
[16:04] <JHOSMAN_> (service Tomcat)
[16:04] <brunim> TJ- yes, it's an EFI system
[16:04] <TJ-> brunim: what, precisely, happens when you try to start in Windows. Are you allowing the firmware to choose its default boot option and it starts Ubuntu, or something else?
[16:05] <brunim> TJ- When I enter grub, it lets me choose Windows Boot Manager, but when I select it... it does nothing.
[16:06] <brunim> TJ- It's weird, doesn't even get off GRUB. Just stands there staring at me, until I select Ubuntu
[16:06] <TJ-> brunim: On EFI, to start Windows, you shouldn't be using GRUB... use the EFI boot manager, that's the correct place
[16:06] <jhutchins> !efi
[16:06] <bipul>  I want to swap an external flash disc in ubuntu.
[16:07] <TJ-> brunim: on most EFI system's there's a key-combo you can press at boot-time to bring up the manual boot menu, where you can select all the boot options written by OS installers, plus removable devices discovered by the firmware
[16:08] <brunim> TJ-, ubottu, last time I could choose on the grub menu which system I wanted to boot. I was expecting this time to be similar
[16:08] <Beldar> brunim, ubottu is the bot
[16:08] <brunim> Oh.
[16:08] <brunim> XD
[16:10] <brunim> Thanks guys, I'll try rebooting and pressing the boot key.
[16:10] <Beldar> brunim, I would copy and paste that script to this thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[16:11] <brunim> Thanks you, I will do just that
[16:11] <Beldar> brunim, Best help around on this area there, and quick responses, they actually read the script. ;)
[16:11] <Beldar> no guessing
[16:16] <winterpk> Can anyone suggest a good Ubuntu web server virus scanner?  My webserver seems to have become compromised...
[16:17] <jhutchins> winterpk: Unlikely to be a virus.
[16:17] <TJ-> winterpk: do you mean you suspect your server is hosting malware?
[16:19] <winterpk> I beleive that one of my wordpress sites has a malitious php script. Do you have any suggestions on how to identify the violating script?
[16:20] <Beldar> winterpk, Load the backup off line change the security access and call it a day.
[16:20] <Brandano> winterpk: if you know the nature of the script you can run a plaintext search for it
[16:21] <winterpk> First suggestion won't work
[16:21] <winterpk> Php is run by the apache user, I can't lock out apache from my websites
[16:22] <winterpk> PLain text search won't work because its likely an encoded string
[16:22] <Brandano> ut locking out Apache from the rest of the OS might be a good idea, especially when serving Wordpress
[16:22] <jhutchins> winterpk: Clean install or restored backup prior to infection, install tripwire to catch future problems.
[16:22] <winterpk> Well apache is locked out from teh rest of the OS.  But the malitious script is in an apache folder
[16:23] <winterpk> what is tripwire?
[16:23] <jhutchins> winterpk: Tripwire detects changes in system files.
[16:24] <Brandano> I think there's no system files affected, just web content
[16:24] <winterpk> Thats a good idea.  I'm not really sure rolling back to pre infection is possible though.
[16:24] <winterpk> Yeah no system files get changed, just files in my webroot.
[16:24] <Brandano> winterpk: do you suspect that the DB content is compromised too?
[16:25] <winterpk> And since php is in there, it can do a lot
[16:25] <winterpk> No, I think my DB is ok
[16:25] <Brandano> then reinstall only wordpress and its plugins and keep the same DB
[16:25] <Brandano> uploaded files might be more bothersome
[16:26] <winterpk> well uploaded files won't be php files and they don't have executable
[16:26] <Brandano> Better test it on another machine first
[16:27] <winterpk> My server is a multi wordpress environment as well as some other platforms.  So it could have spread to other wordpress sites. So you guys don't know of any VS program that could detect mailitous code in PHP scripts?
[16:27] <Brandano> Since all content is dynamic, a fersh WP ibnstall should behave as the old, as long as settings are the same
[16:28] <winterpk> I actually did find a bad plugin called timthumb in on of our WP sites.  I've since cleaned it, but the symptoms still remain.
[16:28] <Moony22> Hey
[16:29] <Moony22> How can I get that plymouth theme?
[16:29] <Moony22> Currently just a text theme is shown
[16:29] <Brandano> winterpk: there's some links from wordpress.org for malware detection plugins. Never had to deal twith this sort of situation, YMMV.
[16:30] <winterpk> Oh I did not know about those.  I'll look into them asap. Thanks!
[16:30] <Brandano> From what I can see Wordpress seems a security liability. I believo some run each instance in a separate chroot just because of that
[16:30] <winterpk> Thats a really good idea
[16:30] <winterpk> Wordpress is definitely a liability
[16:30] <makara> hi. how do I shutdown 14.04?
[16:30] <makara> Moony22, #wordpress
[16:31] <Moony22> makara: what?
[16:31] <Beldar> makara, Since you can't what is the issue causing you to ask, this a X or just cli setup?
[16:31] <Moony22> makara: I mean, the plymouth boot
[16:31] <Moony22> for ubuntu
[16:32] <raggg> does anyone here keep their config files under version control? is there an easy way to do it like keep them all in one dir and use links?
[16:32] <Pici> raggg: Have you looked at etckeeper?
[16:32] <y4h0> ls
[16:32] <y4h0> hi all
[16:33] <Beldar> raggg, Depends on the configs, but there is .config in home, mixing all together makes no sense.
[16:33] <makara> Beldar, I just installed standard 14.04 desktop on my Lenovo laptop and now it hangs on shutdown both from unity and "sudo shutdown now" / "sudo shutdown -P now" / "sudo poweroff"
[16:33] <raggg> Pici: no, i will look it up, presumably is can handle the files in my home dir too?
[16:33] <Pici> raggg: I'm not sure.
[16:33] <makara> there is no "wake on LAN" option in my BIOS like I've seen mentioned as a possible cause
[16:34] <raggg> Beldar: but there is also .bashrc, .emacs etc etc all over the place... was just wondering if anyone else had a nice solution
[16:34] <makara> it's driving me crazy. It won't suspend either
[16:34] <Beldar> makara, Strange, not sure myself, just wanted to see more details for help in general. ;)
[16:36] <Brandano> makara: probably power management issues
[16:37] <Brandano> suspend is always flaky
[16:38] <Brandano> And messing with power management is a good way to break an install
[16:38] <NikesOnMyFeet> hello all :)
[16:38] <Brandano> makara: does it behave the same if booted on a live distro?
[16:39] <Brandano> At least that would give you a safe way to mess about
[16:39] <alazare619> i have a problem where only 1 user can read/write to a cifs share is there a way to force a fstab to allow any user of a group to be able to RWX from a cifs share?
[16:41] <makara> Brandano, thanks but i wouldn't go any further than typing in a custom command. This is just something Canonical should fix pronto if they want to be considered a viable desktop alternative
[16:41]  * Brandano has no say in what Canonical should or should not do since he does not work for them
[16:43] <raggg> makara what lenovo model? I have hibernate and suspend both working on lenovo thinkpad here...
[16:44] <makara> Brandano, B570
[16:45] <raggg> also have you tried 'sudo shutdown -t secs now -h'
[16:46] <Moony22> how can I get hwinfo?
[16:46] <Moony22> or a similar tool that shows me supported res's
[16:47] <Iamalinuxnoob> YO  I COULD USE SOME HELP BECAUSE I AM A LINUX KLUTZ
[16:47] <OerHeks> Moony22, lshw / lspci / lsusb / lscpu
[16:47] <SchrodingersScat> Iamalinuxnoob: A benefit of irc is that we almost can't help but see your message, you can just ask your question.
[16:48] <Moony22> OerHeks: What command could I use as an alternative to hwinfo -framebuffer
[16:48] <Moony22> hwinfo --framebuffer*
[16:48] <Brandano> makara: can't find it here: www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/
[16:49] <Brandano> Iamalinuxnoob: it's the button on the left, right above the one with the arrow
[16:49] <lmat> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04. I see an application on the launcher called "Amazon". How do I get rid of it ? (A link is sufficient ^_^)
[16:50] <bipul> hello I want to make a swap on an external memory. That is Flash disc.If it possible then can i shift my whole RAM work load to my 8 GB pen drive
[16:50] <lmat> dpkg --get-selections | grep -i amazon ; returns nothing.
[16:50] <bipul> I hope my processor will works fine. It does not have any issue when it get interacted with my cheap External memory.
[16:50] <lmat> bipul: wow
[16:50] <Moony22> lmat: right click "unlock from launcher"?
[16:50] <Iamalinuxnoob> Ok SchrodingerScat.  I just feel so impolite just asking like I am a debbie downer or something xD  I have been trying to reinstall and do what I can for a couple weeks in my offtime and I asked for help yesterday and it didnt work but I feel like I screwed it up. I have the issue laid out here
[16:50] <lmat> Moony22: I want to uninstall it...is that possible ?
[16:50] <Moony22> oh
[16:50] <Iamalinuxnoob> https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[16:50] <Brandano> lmat: Ah, that's the Unity integration with amazon search services, and personally one of the first things I disable. Might not be an appropriate topic for an official ubuntu channel, I suppose
[16:51] <lmat> Brandano: You think it's not appropriate to ask how to disable it here ?
[16:51] <Moony22> lmat: It's not an application, it's just a launcher to the ubuntu web browser directed to amazon website
[16:51] <lmat> Moony22: Okay, that's what I wanted to know ;)
[16:51] <OerHeks> Moony22,  don't know about -framebuffer
[16:51] <Brandano> Moony22: actually, there's a bit more than that, and some serious implications in erlation to privacy. and something for which Canonical has not been roasted nearly enough
[16:51] <lmat> Moony22: So just "unlock" is good enough then...
[16:52] <Iamalinuxnoob> SchrodingerScat I also am having an issue with rtl 8192ce. those are both my net adapters and at this point I am pretty desperate to get it to work since I spent several hours with help yesterday and still didnt get it to work yet D:
[16:52] <lmat> When I click the spinny-looking ubuntu icon and type something, it gives web results and shopping results. How do I disable that ?
[16:52] <Moony22> Brandano: Are you talking about that launcher or the unity dash integration with amazon etc?
[16:52] <lmat> I want to only search for things on my computer. If I want to search for things on the internet, I can handle that through a web browser :)
[16:52] <lmat> oh, I found something... unity-webapps-common  and unity-lens-shopping.
[16:52] <Brandano> Moony22: both, but mainly the integration
[16:53] <Moony22> lmat: Open the "security & privacy" application, then on the search tab there is a way to disable
[16:53] <bipul> lmat, is it possible ?
[16:53] <Brandano> lmat: yep, that's it. http://lifehacker.com/5953180/how-to-remove-amazon-ads-from-ubuntu-1210
[16:53] <Moony22> lmat: you can also uninstall those I guess
[16:53] <lmat> bipul: Sure...
[16:53] <lmat> Moony22: Thanks.
[16:53] <lmat> Brandano: thanks.
[16:53] <Brandano> it is possible, and easy. But it should at the very least be an option deselectable on install, if not just an opt-in rather than opt-out scheme
[16:53] <SchrodingersScat> Iamalinuxnoob: ah, well, if you were following that guide, then you should be able to pastebin any errors or problems you run into
[16:55] <lmat> Where can I get a description of each of these unity lenses ?
[16:55] <lmat> win 5
[16:55] <lmat> doh
[16:56] <Iamalinuxnoob> SchrodingersScat my only problem with that is that I still have the same issue after doing it.  I am on my laptop right now and the issue is with my desktop i took a screenshot of my output of the last checking step hopefully so someone could check it as apparently I am unable to accurately myself.  I will upload it within 5 minutes. I have to transfer it to laptop first
[16:59] <[wilhelm]> Why isn't the rc.local running at boot?
[17:00] <lmat> So um... what does unity-lens-friends do ? Does it search social networking sights, etc?
[17:02] <lmat> Thank goodness! http://askubuntu.com/questions/288958/what-do-the-listed-unity-lenses-do
[17:02] <Moony22> Hello
[17:02] <lmat> Moony22: Welcome back!
[17:02] <Moony22> My monitor is completely ruined :p
[17:02] <Moony22> well, that's a lie
[17:02] <lmat> Moony22: oh, that's sad :(  Too much wayland, not enough X?
[17:02] <Moony22> My resolution is fixed at 1280x1024
[17:03] <Moony22> I don't know how to change it :/
[17:03] <Moony22> I'll give you something, I've been messing around with grub and plymouth resolutions
[17:04] <Iamalinuxnoob_> oops
[17:05] <wjacobsen> hi
[17:06] <letstrythis> !eol
[17:07] <Iamalinuxnoob_> I am back. If someone would be so kind as to check this for me.   http://i.imgur.com/GPjoGBE.png https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[17:07] <Iamalinuxnoob_> To clarify it is the LAST step I need checked
[17:08] <ranno> hi folks. i have a lenovo thinkpad x1 carbon with internal sd card reader running ubuntu 14.04
[17:08] <Red-XIII> hi guys
[17:08] <ranno> unfortunately the sd card reader does not work. it does not recognize the sd card whatsoever
[17:08] <rp2> does anyone here have experience with Tartini? I have a few questions
[17:09] <Red-XIII> i got no audio on my ASUS S56C with Ubuntu 14.04 from headphones... :(
[17:09] <Moony22> Please can I have assistance with this issue?
[17:09] <jrtappers> Moony22, issue?
[17:10] <Moony22> jrtappers: my screen res is stuck at 1280x1024
[17:10] <jrtappers> Moony22, What monitor do you have?
[17:10] <Moony22> jrtappers: a hp monitor? res 1440x900
[17:10] <Moony22> hp w1907v
[17:10] <Moony22> It was working earlier
[17:11] <jrtappers> Moony22, what changed since then?
[17:11] <jrtappers> And how much earlier
[17:11] <Moony22> like, 15 min ago
[17:11] <Moony22> :p
[17:11] <Moony22> jrtappers: I was messing around with the plymouth theme
[17:11] <Iamalinuxnoob_> SchrodingersScat ---  http://i.imgur.com/GPjoGBE.png https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7 just if it is using the "fixed" driver
[17:12] <Moony22> jrtappers: it also made grub very small and black and white
[17:14] <Moony22> does anyone know how i can fix this?
[17:15] <jrtappers> Moony22, can you run the Xorg list thing (Xrandr I think)
[17:16] <Moony22> shall I screenshot the output?
[17:16] <jrtappers> Moony22, pastebin.ubuntu.com
[17:16] <Moony22> jrtappers: when running xrandr
[17:16] <Moony22> http://i.imgur.com/QmhAF5f.png
[17:17] <rp2> messing around with the plymouth theme he stole my heart away
[17:17] <jrtappers> Moony22, What files did you edit?
[17:18] <rp2> btw I have another question: 15 years ago I used to run X at 2000x1500 resulution ... Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't offer that as an option ... how can I add it back? surely graphics cards have advanced since then?
[17:18] <Moony22> jrtappers: /etc/default/grub and I used plymouth-manager and super-boot-manager (gui tools)
[17:19] <jrtappers> Can you see if Xorg.conf has been changed recently?
[17:19] <[wilhelm]> How may cat be used to show the hidden newlines?
[17:20] <Moony22_> how do I do so?
[17:20] <Moony22_> whoops really sorry need to go check something out I'll be back
[17:21] <lmat> [wilhelm]: What's an hidden newline?
[17:22] <lmat> [wilhelm]: If you want to see bytes that don't print well, use hexdump (1)
[17:22] <Iamalinuxnoob_> How do I create a file in linux?
[17:23] <Iamalinuxnoob_> *create a file in root areas
[17:23] <rp2> why do you want to do that?
[17:23] <ciscoftw> can somebody please set me straight regarding java plugin for chrome... java version returns; Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_55-b13) the path for symlink i've added has been '/opt/java/64/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so'
[17:23] <Seveas> Iamalinuxnoob_: you'll generally want to not do that
[17:23] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 to attempt to fix an error with my wifi adapters.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/414974/realtek-rtl8192ce-wireless-slow-intermittent-access
[17:24] <rp2> aaah
[17:24] <rp2> well, something like 'sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192ce.conf' should do the trick
[17:24] <rp2> for 'gedit' substitute your favourite editor
[17:25] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 thanks :D hopefully this works :D
[17:25] <rp2> you need a terminal first so you can type the command
[17:25] <rp2> do you know how to get one?
[17:26] <rp2> there are probably other ways, too, but I don't use the GUI for this sort of thing
[17:26] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 yep I a tad bit of experience in linux but not enough to do much outside of the simple stuff in terminal  the troubleshooting has given me fits but its well worth it if this thing can fix it now :D
[17:26] <rp2> join the club :)
[17:27] <rp2> i still regularly have fits over linux audio configuration ... it keeps breaking, or I keep breaking it, because the audio system is a lot bigger than my poor brain
[17:27] <ranno> i have an internal SD card reader which does not work in ubuntu 14.04. it seems to be connected to pci because the lspci command returns the following:
[17:27] <ranno> 02:00.0 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd MMC/SD Host Controller (rev 07)
[17:28] <ranno> do you guys have any idea how to get the card reader working ?
[17:29] <rp2> Iamalinuxnoob_: try never to edit an existing file that requires root permissions, and if you do, at the very least copy the original before you do
[17:30] <trism> ciscoftw: chromium/chrome won't load npapi plugins anymore so you can't use the java plugin with it
[17:30] <Daghdha> Hi. When i go to network settings i cannot edit the options. The button is greyed out. When i go to Network Connections there are no connections listed. I am however connected to the internet via wired cable. Any idea what cuases this? This machine has been migrated from 10.x up to current version 14.04 LTS Desktop Ubuntu
[17:30] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 that really sucks D: I actually never had any issues with linux before the latest stuff I have been doing (basically reinstalling it) Had nothing but fits for the past several weeks in regards to linux lol my desktop is lightyears ahead of my laptop but yet my desktop is the one having the errors D:
[17:31] <Zomous> did anyone here had good experience with an NVIDIA 730m on Ubuntu 14.04?
[17:31] <ceblue> Hello Ubuntu experts. Do you know of a runners' gps watch that can sync with Ubuntu? (like Garmin Forerunner but that is only for PC)
[17:31] <ciscoftw> trism: no? i'd really like to avoid the icetea java -perfer orcle version
[17:31] <jmadero> hi all - http://pastebin.com/0Bad0TBF
[17:32] <trism> ciscoftw: no you can't use icedtea either
[17:32] <jmadero> I have a weird problem where my server is exporting to directories via NFS but on my client - both folders that I have mounted lead to the same (one) of the exports
[17:32] <jmadero> pastebin above
[17:32] <ciscoftw> trism: did this recently change? seems like it did with upgrade to v35
[17:32] <trism> ciscoftw: you have to use firefox until somebody makes a ppapi plugin, if it ever happens
[17:32] <trism> ciscoftw: yes they just disabled npapi with 35
[17:32] <jmadero> two*
[17:32] <ciscoftw> wow, this is pretty giant fail.
[17:32] <Fuchs> jmadero: err, yes, because both poin tto 192.168.1.0/24
[17:32] <ciscoftw> thanx trism
[17:32] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 I will do that xD I am very reluctant to do anything with sys files as root but unfortunately this reqs me to do so lol
[17:33] <Fuchs> oh, wait, wut ...
[17:33] <rp2> Iamalinuxnoob_: I've had that feeling for 15 years now :)
[17:33] <Fuchs> oh, these are two files, silly me. Sorry.
[17:33] <jmadero> Fuchs: that's not the problem that's just sharing to all machines on the network
[17:33] <jmadero> see example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[17:33] <Fuchs> jmadero: yes, sorry, I thought that it is one file, not two. So I was confused for a moment, thee
[17:33] <Fuchs> *there
[17:33] <_2_Wuendy>  Español
[17:34] <jmadero> Fuchs: it's very weird, "LittleMan" is being mounted to both /media/LittleMan and /media/MEGAMAN on my local machine
[17:34] <jmadero> the client
[17:34] <rp2> jmadero: so what do the mounts and the exports look like?
[17:34] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 haha xD dang seems like my issue is not fixed I am currently suck with a speedtest of .16 download .72 upload my connection should be around 13.00 -_-
[17:34] <jmadero> rp2: check log ;)
[17:34] <jmadero> rp2: http://pastebin.com/0Bad0TBF
[17:34] <ciscoftw> ...in case anyone is following... https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=375909
[17:35] <rp2> hm
[17:35] <jmadero> strange right?
[17:35] <jmadero> a similar (if not identical) setup worked before
[17:36] <jmadero> oh more input is that same problems happens on a different client with not exactly the same /etc/fstab - so it must be the server
[17:36] <ceblue> I've just installed Lxde (apt-get install lxde) on a headless trusty server. I remember being told `startx` was not recommended on Trusty but not what I was supposed to do instead.
[17:36] <jmadero> or very much suspect it is the server I suppose
[17:37] <rp2> jmadero: can you pastebin the putput of mount | fgrep nfs ?
[17:37] <jmadero> rp2: client or server?
[17:37] <rp2> client
[17:37] <rp2> or /msg it to me :)
[17:37] <rp2> ah ...
[17:37] <Moony22_> I'm back
[17:38] <rp2> it is already in that pastebin right?
[17:38] <jmadero> indeed
[17:38] <jmadero> not the exact command, but same output
[17:38] <rp2> what does the command output say?
[17:39] <jmadero> rp2: http://pastebin.com/506CwQxY
[17:39] <rp2> perhaps the configuration changed after the mounts were made? it won't magically discover that
[17:39] <rp2> I don't see the problem, they're two different diectories right?
[17:40] <ceblue> Should I install lightdm or use startx?
[17:40] <jmadero> yes and on the server I can confirm that they both are fine
[17:40] <Moony22> So, ubuntu has issues detecting my screen res
[17:40] <jmadero> they are two separate hard drives completely ;)
[17:40] <rp2> then what is wrong on the client?
[17:40] <ayoub_lb> mysql question if possible?  i'm trying to partition a 34GB+ table. altering does nothing. i created a new table with partitions, and did an insert into X select * from y; but when done, select count shows 22 million record missing..
[17:40] <jmadero> on the client it's mounting one directory in two places
[17:40] <rp2> which one?
[17:41] <jmadero> so the server has /media/LittleMan and /media/MEGAMAN, I mount to the same directories on client (media setup), /media/LittleMan is being mounted to both /media/LittleMan and /media/MEGAMAN
[17:41] <rp2> ok
[17:41] <jmadero> oh even better - if I comment out /media/LittleMan and try to restart the nfs server I get errors
[17:41] <Moony22> I don't know if anyone saw my issue before
[17:41] <jmadero> which leads me to think even more server problem
[17:41] <rp2> very strange
[17:41] <rp2> and when did you last change this configuration?
[17:42] <jmadero> rp2:  I was forced to upgrade when raspbmc pushed an update :(
[17:42] <jmadero> it broke a lot of things, this is the last remaining
[17:42] <Moony22> should I reinstall ubuntu?
[17:42] <jmadero> Moony22: no that won't solve the problem, reinstalling usually isn't recommended in Linux world
[17:42] <rp2> what does exportfs say is exported?
[17:43] <Moony22> jmadero: surely it'll solve the issue...it'll reset everything to how it was!
[17:43] <jmadero> sure - if you want to do it that way
[17:43] <jmadero> rp2: claims both are exported
[17:43] <rp2> hm
[17:43] <jmadero> right . . . wth
[17:43] <Moony22> I just don't know how to fix this - I think I broke a lot of things
[17:43] <Moony22> for example both grub is messed up and also my screen resolution
[17:44] <jmadero> Moony22: fair enough, reinstall :)
[17:44] <ceblue> Moony22: What is problem?
[17:44] <Moony22> along with plymouth
[17:44] <Moony22> ceblue: the main problem is my screen res is stuck
[17:44] <Moony22> at 1280x1024
[17:44] <x1gamal> *luvs* ubuntu
[17:45] <rp2> so the client is claiming it mounted 192.168.1.70:/media/MEGAMAN on /media/MEGAMAN, but when you look at the files in /media/MEGAMAN, you see files that are not in /media/MEGAMAN on the server?
[17:45] <ceblue> Moony22: And what about grub and plymouth?
[17:45] <jmadero> rp2: exactly
[17:45] <rp2> and 192.168.1.70 really is the server? and the files are really different there?
[17:46] <jmadero> lol yes
[17:46] <jmadero> I can screenshot them if yo'ud like ;)
[17:46] <rp2> verify it. it must be something stupid.
[17:46] <ceblue> Hello Ubuntu experts. Do you know of a runners' gps watch that can sync with Ubuntu? (like Garmin Forerunner but that is only for PC)
[17:46] <rp2> have you tried umounting and then remounting them on the client?
[17:47] <Moony22> ceblue: er, well I've been changing the plymouth screen and also changing screen res in /etc/default/grub
[17:47] <jmadero> rp2: a ton of times
[17:47] <jmadero> also restarting server
[17:48] <rp2> well
[17:49] <rp2> I'd say there's nothing wrong with your two config files, so it must be something stupid, like, not realizing te contents of /media.MEGAMAN are really those of /media/LittleMan on the server
[17:49] <jmadero> rp2: https://plus.google.com/photos/117397839011853181951/albums/5893637671592409297/6016679360750891026?pid=6016679360750891026&oid=117397839011853181951
[17:49] <jmadero> that one is showing server on left, client on right of LittleMan
[17:49] <jmadero> rp2: https://plus.google.com/photos/117397839011853181951/albums/5893637671592409297/6016679367374996898?pid=6016679367374996898&oid=117397839011853181951
[17:49] <jmadero> that one is showing server on left, client on right, of MEGAMAN
[17:50] <ceblue> says i need to sign into g+ to view your screencaps
[17:50] <rp2> wow.
[17:50] <jmadero> rp2: right!?
[17:51] <rp2> now I really don't know what else to try
[17:51] <jmadero> did I blow your mind?
[17:51] <phyzloc> Hi! Can someone assist me to revert my ubuntu 14.04 xorg to its default state?
[17:51] <jmadero> my mind is blown
[17:51] <rp2> yes, pretty much
[17:51] <rp2> I want to go home *sob* :)
[17:52] <jmadero> I want my home server to work right again :(
[17:52] <jmadero> double dob
[17:52] <Xip> Hi I can't find my usb stick, what could be the reason? It's formatted on Windows FAT32.. and works fine on it..
[17:52] <ceblue> Are you sure you havent symlinked anything by mistake? or the export is itself mounted on the server?
[17:52] <jmadero> sob*
[17:52] <phyzloc> I tried to install nvidia drivers suggested from nvidias home page for my graphics card but it scewed up everything
[17:52] <Iamalinuxnoob_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/471208/realtek-wireless-adapter-issues-rtl8192ce-and-rtl8192cu
[17:52] <rp2> phyzloc: I'm not sure but maybe the dpkg-reconfigure command can help. I'm scared to use it though
[17:52] <jmadero> ceblue: indeed nothing is symlinked - literally I just directly export the foloder
[17:53] <jmadero> folder*
[17:53] <phyzloc> rp2: thath command doesn't to anything
[17:53] <jmadero> and the screenshots show clearly that the server and client are seeing different things:(
[17:53] <phyzloc> rp2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or lightdm just returns me to the prompt
[17:54] <ceblue> jmadero: and that folder is not a network mount from somewhere else? also i cant see your screenshots due to being asked to login to g+ when i click them
[17:54] <jmadero> ceblue: if you have somehwere else for me to upload I will
[17:54] <rp2> phyzloc: I've been doing similar kinds of things to get OpenGL working, but that was with a different brand of graphics card
[17:54] <jmadero> ceblue: and no the folder is not a network mount to somewhere else - they are literally just two different hard drives
[17:54] <jmadero> that are connected to my raspberry Pi
[17:55] <ceblue> jmadero: imgur? doesnt need a login (from you either)
[17:55] <rp2> sometimes it would also help to uninstall the driver packages and install an alternative bt I've never done this for NVidia
[17:56] <jmadero> ceblue: http://imgur.com/a/IziZf
[17:56] <jmadero> server left/client right
[17:57] <phyzloc> Any nvidia experts in here?
[17:57] <ceblue> jmadero: ok so megaman is the wrong folder
[17:57] <jmadero> ceblue: yes on the client
[17:58] <votlon> hello all
[17:59] <rp2> jmadero: what does showmount say?
[17:59] <ceblue> jmadero: wow
[17:59] <rp2> if you have that
[18:00] <votlon> exit
[18:00] <jmadero> rp2: server or client?
[18:00] <jmadero> sorry not a network expert ;)
[18:00] <rp2> client
[18:00] <ceblue> jmadero: r.pi is arm jsn't? Have you checked the arm implementation of NFS bug list?
[18:00] <rp2> it's been 10 years since I've used NFS, sorry
[18:00] <jmadero> ceblue: I haven't - I should I guess
[18:01] <jmadero> was hoping it was human error not bug
[18:01] <jmadero> because this is my entire media setup :(
[18:01] <jmadero> showmount gives this clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered
[18:01] <rp2> so I suppose /media/* is mounted from elsewhere on the server?
[18:01] <ceblue> jmadero: it may be human error, i am not too familiar with nfs complexities, i can get it working but this is an unusual case
[18:02] <jmadero> rp2: /media/MEGAMAN is just an external hard drive - that's just the mount point
[18:02] <ceblue> rp2: i asked that already, i was thinking that too. it's good to know we are following the same debugging path :-) makes me feel like, perhaps, mine works!
[18:05] <sam__> error while installing eclipse t http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506603/ any hint???
[18:06] <rp2> jmadero: is this useful? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/82290/linux-clnt-create-rpc-program-not-registered
[18:08] <jmadero> rp2: lol I have to do that already (restart rpcbind and then restart nfs) -- really annoying
[18:08] <rp2> can't you just use CIFS?
[18:09] <jmadero> um if I have to - I'm comfortable with nfs and have been using it for years :(
[18:09] <jmadero> what a pain in the butt
[18:09] <rp2> yeah, but this is crazy
[18:10] <ceblue> It is crazy. does only 1 share at a time work? test each share singly
[18:10] <jmadero> indeed it is - I was forced an update that broke half my stuff
[18:10] <jmadero> woke up one morning and boom - update and broken media box
[18:10] <rp2> that's even crazier
[18:10] <jmadero> ceblue: the crazy thing is if I comment out LittleMan the server spits out errors when I start up nfs
[18:10] <rp2> the *server*
[18:10] <jmadero> let me get that error really quick
[18:10] <jmadero> it's literally like it doesn't see MEGAMAN at all
[18:11] <rp2> the server is hiding something from us
[18:11] <jmadero> when trying to share - but then claims it is sharing it
[18:11] <ceblue> jmadero: if you comment out the other, it's fine?
[18:11] <Kerry-Anne18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/S0CEdA
[18:11] <jmadero> ceblue: testing now give me 1 minute
[18:12] <Daghdha> Can anyone h elp get me my interfaces editable inside the settings screens? I now always have to go to interfaces files in /etc/network
[18:13] <jmadero> LITERALLY INSANE - so LittleMan is commented out - I restarted nfs server fine - but when I try to mount all on client I get: "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.70:/media/LittleMan"
[18:13] <jmadero> but LittleMan is commented out!
[18:13] <ceblue> jmadero: The next thing to do is rename the folder/share to a not-before-seen name and see if that fixes it, case of weird old config data.
[18:13] <jmadero> okay I'll try that right now
[18:14] <jmadero> one minute
[18:14] <jmadero> oh that's going to be a pain actually as the drives are labeled
[18:14] <ceblue> oh ya, that will annoying
[18:15] <jmadero> okay going to continue blowing your minds - removing LittleMan completely (disconnecting)
[18:15] <rp2> jmadero: wait ... is it commented out on the server, on the client, or on both?
[18:15] <jmadero> rp2: just server
[18:15] <ceblue> jmadero: i think you have a bug related to broken config, and purging or using new names, might fix
[18:15] <jmadero> going to try that now
[18:15] <jmadero> this is literally insane
[18:15] <rp2> then no wonder the client is complaining it can't mount it
[18:15] <jmadero> but thanks for dealing with my antics ;)
[18:15] <rp2> ddid you umount both first??
[18:15] <magikarpales> is anyone here running chrubuntu on an old cr-48 chromebook?
[18:16] <jmadero> rp2: but it shouldn't be trying to mount it - usually if LittleMan is turned off then my client only mounts MEGAMAN
[18:16] <jmadero> no complaints
[18:16] <ceblue> 99% sure it's a corrupted config
[18:16] <ceblue> or nfs broke in the new patch
[18:16] <jmadero> I'll take door #1
[18:16] <jmadero> because door #2 makes my media center useless
[18:17] <jmadero> okay - so commenting out LittleMan on both server and client - MEGAMAN mounts fine
[18:18] <ceblue> well, if you are sure it is a corupt config, purge it and remake it
[18:18] <rp2> ok
[18:18] <rp2> now comment out MEGAMAN en uncomment LittleMan on both?
[18:18] <jmadero> rp2: doing now
[18:18] <jmadero> that was comment out on both + unmount LittleMan on server
[18:19] <ceblue> I thought I told you to try 1 share at a time already and you had?
[18:19] <StevenX> Hello
[18:19] <jmadero> ceblue: I had only commented out on server not client
[18:19] <ceblue> ok sorry
[18:19] <gavin_> need help installing Ubuntu
[18:20] <gavin_> have a dell inspiron 531 with windows xp
[18:20] <jmadero> rebooting Pi so give me a few
[18:21] <gavin_> have formatted the drive and when I boot from cd it says no operating sys
[18:21] <jmadero> gavin_: then you aren't botting from cd
[18:21] <jmadero> it's trying to read from the hard drive
[18:22] <jmadero> gavin_: are you sure you have a bootable CD?
[18:22] <gavin_> the cd opens on my new computer
[18:22] <rp2> gavin_: maybe booting from CD is disabled in the BIOS settings
[18:23] <jmadero> gavin_: and are you sure this other machine is same architecture?
[18:23] <rp2> check the boot configuration on startup
[18:23] <Jordan_U> gavin_: How did you burn the CD?
[18:24] <ceblue> if the cd works on other pc, it is a bios setting-enable boot menu etv
[18:24] <gavin_> it says no boot device available  sata0 installed, sata 1 installed, sata2 none, sata3 none
[18:24] <jmadero> ceblue: rp2 - yes same works for LittleMan
[18:25] <rp2> gavin_: there must be an option to select which devices it tries to boot from
[18:25] <rp2> that is not the list of devices, it's a different list
[18:25] <gavin_> i selected cd
[18:25]  * Moony22 reinstalls ubuntu
[18:25] <bah__>  /msg nickserv register bah!!! just.for.questions.and.stuff@gmail.com
[18:25] <rp2> you must put CD before hard drive
[18:25] <rp2> you can order them
[18:26] <ceblue> I think trusty used hybrid images that detect as hdds now. Unsure as I have nothing with Bios anymore.
[18:26] <rp2> jmadero: so what happens if you reverse their order?
[18:27] <rp2> first on one, then on the other
[18:27] <jmadero> rp2: tried that first - same problem
[18:27] <rp2> I know this is stupid but I can't think of anything else to try
[18:27] <jmadero> that's not stupid - I was lost for ideas yesterday
[18:27] <rp2> was it still LittleMan being mounted as MEGAMAN or was it reversed?
[18:28] <jmadero> um - I think it was still LittleMan
[18:29] <rp2> and the problem reappears after you reboot both server and client? that is the crazierst part
[18:29] <rp2> do they really need to be mounted under /media?
[18:30] <rp2> if not, a workaround is to mount both to a common directory on the server, NFS export that, and mount it in the client
[18:31] <jmadero> rp2: new findings - neither is commented out on server, commented out MEGAMAN on client, did a mount all and MEGAMAN on client shows LittleMan content
[18:31] <rp2> coult choosing /media as the client location be the problem?
[18:31] <TE> hello everyone, I wonder if there is a way to re-install/compile the alsa-drivers with 3.14 kernel as I've accidentally removed the kernel modules.
[18:31] <jmadero> trying to figure out if it's client or server
[18:31] <jmadero> rp2: maybe I'll try a different mount location as a test
[18:32] <rp2> jmadero: are you sure neither were mounted before you issued the mountall???
[18:32] <TE> I've tried the basic stuff such as reinstalling the packages, but obvious those don't do anything with the kernel modules
[18:32] <jmadero> rp2: indeed - I made sure
[18:33] <rp2> so nothing on the client tells it to mount /media/MEGAMAN, but it still does??
[18:33] <rp2> is there another part in /etc/fstab or somewhere else that still tries to mount it, e.g. through the automounter?
[18:33] <jmadero> opposite but yes - nothing says to mount what server sees as LittleMan
[18:33] <jmadero> but it's mounting it on /media/MEGAMAN
[18:33] <jmadero> I'm 99% sure it's server
[18:34] <rp2> isn't /media controlled by a a special mounting service rather than /etc/fstab? I'm guessing now
[18:34] <jmadero> honestly no clue - I just know this worked before updates
[18:34] <rp2> can you change the mount directories in /etc/fstab to somewhere else and retry?
[18:34] <jmadero> but let me try a temp directory
[18:34] <jmadero> yeah I'll mount to home folder
[18:34] <jmadero> temp1 and temp2
[18:34] <rp2>  /mount is traditional
[18:35] <rp2> ok
[18:35] <rp2>  i mean /mnt
[18:35] <rp2> or issue the mount command manually instead of using mountall
[18:35] <jmadero> rp2: mount all - to temp folder in home - same problem
[18:35] <rp2> after all, if it's a bug it can be a bug in fstab parsing
[18:36] <rp2> so don't mount all, mount them manually one by one
[18:36] <jmadero> rp2: all righty another test :)
[18:38] <ceblue> remind me nkt to walk by your window, i would not like to be hit by a thrown r.pi
[18:39] <jmadero> ceblue: trust me - the raspbmc room didn't like me for awhile because all I said was "why did you push this STUPID update on me!"
[18:39] <jmadero> it corrupted my db
[18:39] <jmadero> screwed up my shares
[18:42] <ceblue> morale of story: Auto-updates suck. Also, I really do hope you can isolate the problem.
[18:42] <ceblue> Heading out now: bon chance.
[18:42] <magikarpales> hey guys. i have a spastic wifi driver. running chrubuntu on a cr-48
[18:43] <rp2> magikarpales: sorry I've never used a chromebook
[18:43] <magikarpales> wifi consistently connects and reconnects
[18:44] <TE> if you're on the 2.4Ghz band then it might be overloaded
[18:44] <magikarpales> rp2: should i go on ask ubuntu? i didn't see any cr-48 specific wifi driver issues
[18:44] <magikarpales> rp2: AskUbuntu
[18:44] <xeno__> What's the best remote desktop client to access windows from Ubuntu?
[18:45] <rp2> magikarpales: does it only happen with that device?
[18:45] <rp2> i mean the chromebook
[18:46] <rp2> xeno__: I prefer grdesktop
[18:46] <rp2> but I don't think I've tried them all
[18:46] <rp2> and it doesn't do remote drive mapping or sound
[18:46] <rp2> not sure if any of the others do
[18:47] <xeno__> Thank you rp2.
[18:47] <rp2> rdesktop has more options i think but the same limitations
[18:49] <RAZ0REDGE> hello
[18:49] <RAZ0REDGE> http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/143/c/8/freebsd_10_0_openbox_with_plank_0_5_0_and_lxpanel_by_ipodpunker-d7jfmug.png i got plank to work on freebsd ;)
[18:49] <magikarpales> rp2: i don't have another chromebook with chrubuntu installed. if figured it was because it's circa 2009 it would be spastic.
[18:50] <xeno__> It appears rdesktop got installed when I installed grdesktop
[18:50] <dinnelson> .login admin
[18:51] <RAZ0REDGE> i'm using EOS unstable on this box though :) i was just wondering is OpenSSL is patch and all.  I did however update/update the ubuntu base
[18:52] <RAZ0REDGE> upgrade i meant
[18:52] <magikarpales> oh wait. i think i found something relevant on Ask Ubuntu. thanks rp2
[18:53] <rp2> magikarpales: good luck ...
[18:53] <RAZ0REDGE> EOS is using a roughly a old ubuntu base :S
[18:55] <RAZ0REDGE> been using ubuntu since it first came out about in the early 2000 lulz i have stop because of the unity shell i was like YIKES what the H*LL man ? ?  ? but i must say 14.04 is quite stable ... i just like the shell and EOS shell of gnome 3 the base is not really my cup of tea.. a BSD base would be much prefered
[18:55] <RAZ0REDGE> maybe ubuntu should switch to FreeBSD base ;P
[18:56] <bazo> salut
[18:56] <RAZ0REDGE> anyhow i know i'm extremely off topic, and i'm sorry for that.. take care people i'm just happy i got bamf sorted and plank is now working :D
[18:56] <jmadero> rp2: new label and mount point no god
[18:56] <jmadero> good*
[18:57] <jr__> hola buenas
[18:57] <rp2> I've always liked Unity ... there's no accounting for taste I suppose. I liked FreeBSD a lot back when I was using it.
[18:57] <rp2> 'label'?
[18:58] <jmadero> I just came up with a stupid solution that will work I think
[18:58] <rp2> jmadero: have you tried the manual mount commands?
[18:59] <jmadero> ah that was the one I forgot let me try that
[18:59] <jmadero> rp2: if not - I might just symlink
[18:59] <jmadero> all folders in LittleMan into MEGAMAN
[18:59] <rp2> hm
[19:01] <jmadero> LOL rp2 same result with manual
[19:07] <kingbeowolf> how do you guys control your raid?
[19:12] <netwrkspider> hi
[19:13] <vmusr> any ideas how to fix ubuntu 12.04 not detecting an blank cd-r?
[19:14] <astropirate_> hello guys
[19:14] <astropirate_> i am trying to connect to my server via SSH and RSA keys, but this is in my ssh client output:
[19:14] <astropirate_> "Offering RSA public key: /home/mansoor/.ssh/id_rsa"
[19:14] <astropirate_> why does it offer id_rsa and not id_rsa.pub?
[19:15] <astropirate_> any ideas?
[19:16] <xeno__> And what do you all use for skype?
[19:16] <astropirate_> skype
[19:17] <magikarpales> xeno__: jabber?
[19:18] <magikarpales> xeno__: sorry i came in late on this. are you wanting free open source alterns to skype? correct?
[19:18] <OerHeks> astropirate_, They're a key pair: id_rsa is your private key -- it should be kept secret, so that only you can use it; and id_rsa.pub is your public key -- you give it out so that others can verify that a given signature came from your private key
[19:18] <astropirate_> OerHeks, right
[19:19] <OerHeks> astropirate_, now you are logged in as rootaccount, you can see both
[19:19] <astropirate_> OerHeks, but, why does it offer the private key and not the publickey?
[19:20] <OerHeks> it does not know what you are going to do, encrypt, or decrypt, i guess
[19:24] <fixmypc956> guys i am having an issue trying to connect to my server motel
[19:24] <fixmypc956> remotely
[19:24] <xeno__> I just want to use what everyone else is using.
[19:24] <xeno__> It doesn't need to be fancy.
[19:25] <xeno__> It appears there are apps on Ubuntu related to Skype, but perhaps I am just supposed to use their app?
[19:25] <fixmypc956> myip gives me a dynamic ip address
[19:26] <fixmypc956> so i set up with dnsdynamico sooht i can have a DDNS connection
[19:26] <fixmypc956> i was previously able to connect remotely with Putty
[19:27] <rp2> xeno__: I think I installed it from a special package repository, and keep it up to date that way.
[19:27] <rp2> also I need to start it with some exotic environment variable setting in order to get video to work
[19:27] <rp2> I'll go home now where I did this, so I can check it
[19:27] <rp2> in about 20 minutes
[19:28] <fixmypc956> my set up is a primary router and the serveris connected to an access point
[19:28] <rp2> Skype that is.
[19:28] <xeno__> Wow, that's a lot of work.
[19:28] <fixmypc956> i can connect to my server locally
[19:28] <xeno__> I mean going home.
[19:29] <fixmypc956> but not remotely
[19:30] <fixmypc956> can anyone help
[19:31] <cai> gparted on 14.04 won't format anythign as fat32, only ntfs and ext, dosfs tools in on by default on ubuntu
[19:32] <DammitJim> what am I supposed to do with a message like this: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_multiverse_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[19:32] <DammitJim> I can't update any of my servers
[19:32] <DammitJim> the following line is: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[19:32] <DammitJim> is there a different server I should be using for my updates?
[19:32] <DammitJim> I'm in Florida
[19:33] <willwh> DammitJim: did you apt-get update?
[19:33] <willwh> I assume that you are getting errors from that
[19:33] <willwh> or, did you just apt-get upgrade?
[19:33] <DammitJim> willwh, that's when it happens
[19:33] <willwh> 'cause if you did the latter, it's likely that your apt cache is out of date
[19:34] <willwh> when?
[19:34] <DammitJim> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:34] <DammitJim> let me see.. .I'm doing the former
[19:34] <DammitJim> ok, sudo apt-get update gives me the 404
[19:34] <jstrong> I have a Radeon HD 6670 I am attempting to run with ubuntu. I've followed all the steps to install the correct drivers for AMD, including those that are available on AMD's support center - no problems during installation. When I boot my machine always boots into "low graphics mode" and I cannot get past that point.
[19:34] <DammitJim> Err http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse Sources
[19:34] <DammitJim>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[19:35] <jstrong> All the help on the net that I've found say I need to run "sudo aticonfig —initial" but i have already run this command several times to no avail.
[19:35] <Elench> Hi, I'm looking through the setup and can't see how to hide the bar thingie at the top, any hints?
[19:36] <jstrong> Any suggestions or ideas are helpful.
[19:36] <DammitJim> willwh, do I need to remove that source?
[19:37] <willwh> it shouldn't stop you dist upgrading
[19:38] <willwh> oh, you're just package upgrading
[19:39] <DammitJim> right
[19:39] <DammitJim> I would like to dist-upgrade, though
[19:40] <DammitJim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506935/
[19:40] <DammitJim> my sources list
[19:43] <Elench> Oh, and if there's an easy way to hide title bars then that too please :)
[19:44] <willwh> DammitJim: maybe give this a shot on one box? http://askubuntu.com/questions/297757/why-after-fresh-ubuntu-12-04-installation-update-arent-being-installed
[19:45] <DammitJim> sudo apt-get install linux?
[19:45] <DammitJim> that sounds rather strange!!!!
[19:45] <DammitJim> are you sure you aren't trying to trick me?
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> DammitJim, you have to install the linux package
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu comes shipped without linux
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> sudo apt-get install linux will add the packages
[19:50] <DammitJim> oh gosh
[19:50] <DammitJim> ok, here goes nothing
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> wait
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> lol
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> i was jk
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> lmao
[19:50] <Evelyn> LOL
[19:51] <DammitJim> I mean, what the heck?
[19:51] <Jordan_U> AcidRain2012: When helping in this channel, be sure to actually be helpful. Pranks are not appreciated.
[19:51] <Evelyn> First time here and I see someone saying sudo apt-get install linux...I was seriously doubting the ubuntu community haha
[19:51] <DammitJim> so, is that link bogus?
[19:52] <AcidRain2012> Jordan_U, ill be sure to obey by the CoC
[19:52] <AcidRain2012> DammitJim, honestly, im not sure
[19:53] <kingbeowolf> how do you guys control your raid?
[19:54] <Elench> Hi, I'm wondering how I hide the title bar and that funny bar at the top of the display, I can't find a way :/
[19:55] <dutt> Hi, I’ve been having issues with my graphics drivers sometimes(like 1/4-1/6 of all boots) not being detected at boot since I updgraded to 14.04. now i tried to fix that…and it seems to detect it all the time. but my display is messed up. resolution is way low and i only get one screen active.
[19:55] <LjL-Laplet> Elench, those are meant to let you know which application you're using and who you are, respectively. you need them.
[19:55] <Elench> LjL-Laplet: I know those things
[19:56] <Elench> I don't need to be reminded
[19:56] <LjL-Laplet> Elench: let me stay skeptical
[19:56] <Elench> Scepticism is good, but I have a finite display size
[19:56] <DammitJim> anybody else? is this for real?
[19:56] <Elench> So I'd rather not waste it
[19:57] <LjL-Laplet> Elench: i'd keep in mind that as long as your window is maximized, given that the combined title+top bar also doubles as menubar (and you probably want to keep that one?), you are technically wasting no vertical pixels at all
[19:57] <Elench> LjL-Laplet: No, I don't want the menubar by default
[19:58] <Elench> I only want the thing I'm using :/
[19:58] <LjL-Laplet> Elench: uhm, i think it is generally tricky to convince many applications not to show their menubar at all... (although that's becoming a lot more common)
[19:58] <OerHeks> Elench, just checked, unity-tweak does not have such panel option, only the sidebar
[19:58] <Elench> LjL-Laplet: at least where I can I should be aboe to get rid of the bar thingie
[19:59] <Elench> OerHeks: so it's a bug in Unity itself?
[19:59] <Elench> Oh well, thanks anyway :/
[19:59] <OerHeks> Elench, no, just not an option yet.
[20:00] <OerHeks> it might be valuable enough to put it on a wishlist, not sure that still exists.
[20:00] <Elench> Thanks anyway :'(
[20:02] <dutt> anyone know how to restore the xorg config? ubuntu figured it out perfectly when I installed it, so I’d just like to do the same thing again.
[20:03] <thejck> test
[20:06] <igii> hi! I am new on ubuntu, can someone help me please about installing? I have few questions.. Thanks!
[20:06] <dutt> igii: what?
[20:08] <igii> Hey! In windows i made unallocated space (50 gb) but when i go to install ubuntu, he view whole HDD as unalocatted space? Why?
[20:09] <Jordan_U> igii: Because you have an invalid partition table.
[20:09] <Jordan_U> igii: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[20:09] <igii> what should i do? I dont understand this.. i am new but i love ubuntu and linux...
[20:09] <alket> hi , how to make a software backported onUbuntu ?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> igii: "sudo parted -l" will tell you the exact problem with your partition table, and fixparts should be able to fix it.
[20:10] <mjuszczak> What's the easiest way to get all of my mp3s out of ubuntuone since I can't install the app anymore?
[20:10] <mjuszczak> I'm on Mac OSX and didn't realize I couldn't install the app anymore and got rid of my old laptop
[20:10] <igii> will i lose data on my D disk?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> igii: No.
[20:11] <igii> i will try
[20:11] <Jordan_U> igii: Though no matter what you're doing, you should always have backups of any important data.
[20:13] <igii> is there easiest way? i dont know how to do this...
[20:13] <qin> mjuszczak: web?
[20:15] <qin> mjuszczak: apparently ftp too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452524/how-to-download-all-files-from-ubuntu-one-in-14-04
[20:17] <rp2> xeno__:  I'm logged in now.
[20:18] <igii> is there easiest way? i dont know how to do this...
[20:19] <rp2> xeno__: and it turns out I just use the Skype from the Ubuntu partner packages
[20:19] <streulma> hello, my iSight webcam is not working, together with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Nvidia 331. I read it's related to the Nvidia drivers. iSight firmware is working...
[20:19] <rp2> igi: what exactly did you do when in windows you 'made unallocated space' ?
[20:20] <rp2> the Ubuntu installed should definitely see your Windows installation. if it doesn't, then don't proceed because installing will destroy your Windows installation
[20:20] <rp2> installed->installer
[20:21] <streulma> maybe it will work best with 12.04
[20:21] <igii> i open disk managmet, click od disk D and shrink volume
[20:22] <igii> Ubuntu not see Windows installation, only whole HDD as unalocated space, i am now in Windows and all working but i want to solve this problem and install Ubuntu alongside Windows
[20:22] <rp2> ok
[20:22] <igii> ?
[20:22] <Seveas> igii: are you using some kind of full disk encryption software under windows?
[20:22] <igii> no
[20:22] <rp2> it's odd, normally the Ubuntu installer should show you the WIndows partitions
[20:23] <phyzloc> What can cause Unity not to start after login?
[20:23] <igii> its now showing Windows partitions, only free space (and whole hard disk - 500 GB)
[20:23] <[[lutchy]]> Ubuntu shouldn't see that as unallocated space ...
[20:23] <Jordan_U> igii: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, open a terminal, run "sudo parted -l", and post the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (then share the link to the output with us).
[20:24] <igii> and i cant browse files from Ubuntu...
[20:24] <[[lutchy]]> The Drive is partitioned ... Either, IIRC, GPT is the only one I can think of right now
[20:24] <rp2> phyzloc: many different things. if you played with setting resolutionms, maybe your X config got screwed up (e.g. selecting a resolution that won't work)
[20:25] <igii> how can i login again here on Ubuntu? Just type my username or?
[20:25] <phyzloc> rp2: I installed nvidia drivers
[20:26] <rp2> phyzloc: on some machines I had a problem with compiz, I had to disable it (switch to unity2d) before I could use those machines, but that was only a problem with RDP
[20:26] <phyzloc> rp2: Now any driver I load or even when I remove the drivers Unity wont start
[20:26] <rp2> as I said, video drivers can have a big impact too
[20:26] <Jordan_U> igii: Yes, just use the same username so that there's no confusion on our side about who you are when you return :)
[20:26] <rp2> brrr
[20:26] <phyzloc> rp2: How do you switch to 2D?
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: did you try recoverymode from grub?
[20:26] <igii> thanks, i am going now to do this.
[20:27] <rp2> after you remove the drivers you may need to install some replacement
[20:27] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: try what?
[20:27] <phyzloc> rp2: And how do I find out what?
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: hold shift during boot and try recoverymode/failsafeX or fix broken packages from there
[20:28] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: The problem is that I don't know what packages to fix
[20:28] <rp2> I got OpenGL to work on my card by installing the xserver-xorg-core package
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: fix broken packages will try to automatic fix
[20:28] <rp2> I don't know what it did, it's all pretty much black magic to me
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: its an option on recoverymode
[20:29] <phyzloc> rp2: I doubt it's that packes since I'm inside X right now but without the Unity part
[20:29] <rp2> oh and xserver-xorg. apparently I was using X before without having that installed. that's what puzzled me. this is on 12.04 BTW
[20:29] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: In that case I have already tried it without success
[20:30] <rp2> ok ...
[20:30] <phyzloc> And I thought 14.04 was supposed to be much better
[20:30] <rp2> is the unty package installed? and the unity-2d package?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: trusty is better, but it all depends on hardware
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: whats your grafix card chipset?
[20:32] <phyzloc> rp2: Yes, Unity is installed
[20:32] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: It's Geforce 8600 GT
[20:33] <WACOMalt> How can I see the largest files/folders on my computer? (via terminal)
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[20:34] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I've already tried that .. didn't help
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: did you upgrade or clean install 14.04?
[20:34] <igii> hi, i am in Ubuntu now. What to type in terminal?
[20:34] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Clean install
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: with updates during install and third party software internet enabled?
[20:36] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: No. After installation I installed nvidia drivers manually
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: its recommended to install ubuntu with internet connection
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: so you know wich driver ubuntu loads by default
[20:36] <igii> what to type in terminal?
[20:37] <Jordan_U> igii: sudo parted -l
[20:37] <joelmo> I installed i3 and using this instead of gnome, my upstart jobs don't run any more and when i start them manually they cant be found, do  you know how to fix this?
[20:37] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Why can't I do that now?
[20:37] <igii> command not found
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: can you try recovermode and root terminal, maybe try nvidia-current
[20:38] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I'm on nvidia-current right now
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: thought you said you install manually?
[20:38] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: lshw show configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[20:39] <WACOMalt> according to munin, my server has high postfix activity, but I have no mail features set up on my server
[20:39] <WACOMalt> should I be worried?
[20:40] <[wilhelm]> Lore Ant Hill is getting released.
[20:40] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: yes, first I downloaded the suggested driver from Nvidia home page. that made everything black, didn't work at all. Then I removed it and ran apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: so after ubuntu install, have you been able to login to unity?
[20:40] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: That's where I am right now
[20:40] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: From the begining yes. But that was Ubuntus drivers not nvidia
[20:41] <Jordan_U> igii: What was the exact output?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: did it not work properly at start? whats the reason you installed manually after?
[20:41] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: If I could list all graphics drivers I could tell you which one was used. Is there a way to list?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: best way is check your additional drivers list first
[20:41] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I wanted hardware acceleration for XBMC
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: in software sources
[20:42] <Jordan_U> igii: Copy and paste if needed.
[20:42] <igii> sudo: parted: command not found
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> igii: did you not forget the -l
[20:43] <Jordan_U> igii: What is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[20:43] <igii> i not forgeted
[20:43] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Are you talking about apt sources? I don't see any additional drivers there
[20:44] <igii> isb_release-d: command not found
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: software sources icon/last tab additional drivers
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: or extra drivers icon
[20:44] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Hmm.. problem is I don't see any icons :-)
[20:44] <iceroot> igii: lsb_release -d
[20:44] <Jordan_U> igii: Please copy and paste the commands given to you to be sure you don't mistype them.
[20:45] <igii> description: elementary OS Luna
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: i would try recovermode, or clean reinstall
[20:46] <igii> what to do :(
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> !elementary | igii
[20:47] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Ok found it. Right now I'm on nvidia 173.x. The default driver that worked from the begining was Nouveau. Question is if I can select the old one from here
[20:48] <igii> sorry friends, i am new in this
[20:48] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: There is a revert button but it's greyed out :-/
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-173
[20:49] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Yeah it's a legacy driver since the card isn't supported in the latest
[20:51] <igii> there is no one on they channel, can you help me with this problem
[20:51] <Jordan_U> igii: If you'd like our help installing Ubuntu, you need to actually be installing Ubuntu, not another distribution.
[20:51] <igii> ok
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: this card is bit older right?
[20:52] <droid> someone can help me install spotydl for linux ubuntu 14.04
[20:52] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I guess since it's on legacy..
[20:52] <Jordan_U> igii: Please come back when you're booted into an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB environment. I Recommend using Ubuntu 14.04 (or Lubuntu 14.04 if you have a very old computer and want a lightweight desktop environment).
[20:53] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I'm going to try selecting the default driver from Software & updates program
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: my best bet would be default driver that ubuntu loads by default
[20:53] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: So if I stop writing you'll know why :-)
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: good luck, dont forget you can enter recoverymode aswell
[20:54] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I'll try that if this doesn't work.
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: i saved a few boxes on grafix issues with 'fix broken packages' from recoverymode
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> droid: whats spotydl?
[20:55] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: gotcha
[20:55] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: rebooting now :-)
[20:55] <droid> a tool for record songs of spotify
[20:56] <serverhorror> hello, (asked this in #debian since no one seems to be active reposting here, it’s not restricted to a specific distro and I don’t know better places) — I’m looking for image based deployment options (not necessarily block based). can someone give me pointers as to what to use. I know there’s SystemImager but beyond that I don’t know of any software that achieves this
[20:57] <Beldar> serverhorror, clonezilla? This is ubuntu support however we don't generally answer beyond that.
[20:58] <serverhorror> wow times have changed
[20:58] <Beldar> there is ##linux serverhorror you have to be registered however with freenoded
[20:58] <Beldar> #freenode
[20:59] <serverhorror> Beldar: any experience with it or just ‘heard of it’ (like I have with SystemImager)
[20:59] <Beldar> serverhorror, I use clonezilla but not for that just a an imager, it has deployment though.
[20:59] <Beldar> as*
[21:00] <droid> nevermind i search on browser
[21:00] <droid> bye
[21:01] <Rug> Howdy all
[21:01] <Rug> http://paste.debian.net/101472/    I have a workstation that cannot ping a second NIC on a Virtualbox guest.  Any suggestions?
[21:02] <serverhorror> Rug: what network mode is the nic using?
[21:03] <Rug> serverhorror: network mode?
[21:04] <serverhorror> Rug: bridged, nat, nat network, host-only — AFAIR only bridged allows to access the vm nic without further ado
[21:05] <Rug> serverhorror: bridged.
[21:05] <streulma> which Nvidia driver for 14.04 is useable? Is 331 the best ?
[21:06] <serverhorror> Rug: since you talk about a second nic, is the first one bridged, and if so can you ping that one?
[21:06] <ceblue> Reporting a bug: I don't know how to work the bug tracker, and in any case it's probably upstream. Trusty. Type 'usermod' (no args). Help comes up. 'remove' is mispelled as 'remvoe' on several occasions.
[21:06] <Rug> serverhorror: yes I can ping eth0 but not eth1
[21:06] <Rug> both are bridged
[21:07] <serverhorror> Rug: does eth1 have an ip and is it really up?
[21:07] <streulma> Rug: eth1 must have no gateway !
[21:07] <Rug> yes
[21:07] <askon> Hello everyone, my computer is after a repair, it had some water split on it, everything works fine but not sure about the internal mic, using latest ubuntu, pulse audio, when on skype hearing noise only, is there a way to check it for sure, whether it is physical or something skype-ubuntu related?
[21:07] <Rug> streulma: correct
[21:07] <serverhorror> Rug: and the ip is routable from you host? (btw. does eth1 ping from eth0 inside the vm)
[21:09] <bish0p_> Hey, so I finally got around to installing skype on my netbook, and for some reason it won't recognize my webcam.
[21:10] <Rug> serverhorror: the server has 2 IP's (192.168.0.0/24 & 10.0.0.0/24)  my worstation can ping both (route is working both ways)  my server can only ping eth0 on the Vbox guest (192.168.0.226) not eth1 (10.0.0.x)
[21:10] <bish0p_> Is there any way to fix this? The webcame booth thing works, and other programs can see it. Just not skype.
[21:11] <Rug> give me a second for a more detailed config/post on pastebin
[21:11] <Iulia> Hello everyone! Does anybody please has a link with some help for the classical error ...lower resolution than normal in Ubuntu 14.04 ...Mine is 1440x900 and the one wich is set now 1024x768 :(    Many thanks
[21:11] <sparsam> who have experience with ubuntu server cloud?
 try to play around with ARandR it helped me some time ago
[21:12] <guntbert> sparsam: what is your real question? - serve is better discussed in #ubuntu-server genrerally
[21:13] <Iulia> thanks, I will try to find what is that...I tried thousands of things
[21:14] <jstrong> the default ATI driver open source gives me refresh problems
[21:14] <sparsam> tanks askon
[21:14] <jstrong> that is to say that the screen doesn't automatically refresh unless I do things like drag windows
[21:14] <jstrong> I'm using a Radeon HD 6700 card
[21:14] <jstrong> any ideas?
[21:14] <habanany1> fellows i need help, im installing mint 17 to replace mint 16 on a dual boot mint/ubuntu , right now im on the partition editor step, which option should i use ? (use as )
[21:15] <daftykins> Rug: yeah a diagram would be good
[21:16] <ceblue> There used to be a tool to minify a samba smb.conf for faster execution. I don't see mention of this in Trusty. Is this no longer required?
[21:16] <daftykins> !mint | habanany1
[21:16] <wad> When I ssh into an Ubuntu machine, it tells me what updates are available. Can I run a command from the command line to do this?
[21:17] <ceblue> wad sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:17] <Iulia> It suposes I manually added 1440x900 in xrandr but when I open ARandR displays 1440x900 (1920x1080) and changes it to 1920x1080 instead of 1440x900.    Anyone understands why ? Please and thanks a lot
[21:18] <wad> ceblue, not so much, that asks me to upgrade. I just want to output the same thing that shows up when I ssh to the box.
[21:18] <ceblue> wad: use the part before the && only then
[21:19] <wad> Okay.
[21:19] <daftykins> that won't output a status
[21:19] <wad> yeah
[21:19] <wad> I'm digging through the scripts, such as .bashrc, to find where it's doing this....
[21:20] <wad> not finding it so far.
[21:20] <wad> Looked in /etc/bash.bashrc .... what other stuff gets run on login?
[21:20] <daftykins> it's the motd you want to work out what does
 it probably reads the resolutions from a config file, search something on that, how to change the resolution in the config file manually
[21:21] <wad> ah!
[21:21] <wad> Where is the motd invoked?
[21:21] <daftykins> pass.
[21:21] <daftykins> but then, you don't want it to be too easy?
[21:22]  * wad is finding it....
[21:22] <ceblue> etc motd? etc update-motc ?
[21:22] <phyzloc> Can someone explain this please.. I run apt-get --purge remove xorg xserver-xorg ubuntu-desktop lightdm...and then install them again, but the desktop seems to be the same. Shouldn't it revert back to default???
[21:22] <JMichaelX> have decided to upgrade a server from 12.04 to 14.04. upon trying to run 'do-release-upgrade', i get No new release found. could someone tell me what i might be overlooking?
[21:22] <Iulia> Ok, will try so. Thanks again
[21:23] <ceblue> JMichaelX: add a switch to that; trusty wont count for upgrade until the .1 service release
[21:23] <k1l> phyzloc: you didnt rest unity or compiz
[21:23] <quadHelix> JMichaelX, I had to DL the 14.04 iso and perform an upgrade on 12.04.
[21:23] <wad> Yeah, that's it! Thanks!
[21:23] <phyzloc> k1l: How do I do that?
[21:23] <ceblue> JMichaelX: -d
[21:23] <k1l> phyzloc: and with reset i dont mean apt-get purge
[21:24] <phyzloc> k1l: My whole problem is unity.. can I reset that from console? since the gui doesn't work
[21:24] <JMichaelX> ahh
[21:24] <wad> And, for the curious, here is the answer: sudo /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available
[21:24] <ceblue> quadHelix:  JMichaelX  `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`
[21:24] <k1l> phyzloc: doesnt work means what?
[21:25] <z1haze> Hi, can someone please help me out with adding a virtual host on my server? its already setup, someone had done it for me a long time ago, I just need to add another one, but I'm not sure how to do it
[21:25] <quadHelix> ceblue, ty sir.  I will tell the others in the shop
[21:25] <JMichaelX> so it is recommended to wait until the first point release.
[21:25] <JMichaelX> many thanks.
[21:25] <z1haze> the host files i believe are in the /etc/apache2/ there is /sites-available and /sites-enabled
[21:25] <phyzloc> k1l: I've had nvidia drivers problem where after installing it Unity and the whole window managment stoped working (I only see the background picture)
[21:25] <quadHelix> JMichaelX, no need to wait for point release
[21:26] <z1haze> i basically just copied the host files and edited it to make new ones, but in the sites-available folder, there is like symbolic links or something.. im not sure what its for
[21:26] <k1l> phyzloc: http://askubuntu.com/a/202020/31260
[21:26] <phyzloc> k1l: Since I can't get that to work I'm trying to revert back to default. Now even with default drivers I get the same behaviour
[21:26] <k1l> phyzloc: but that sounds more like a driver issue (not loading the driver etc) then a desktop issue
[21:27] <Daghdha> Why do my wired connections don't show up in Network Connections?
[21:27] <ailan> i have ubuntu 10.04 installed .... i have a problem with ubuntu 10.04 and the target: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG...  i do not have connection and don't recognition the interface..
[21:27] <phyzloc> k1l: Now I've configured Ubuntus drivers which I had from the begining. Unity still doesn't start up
[21:27] <phyzloc> k1l: What is that link? I can't click on it since I'm on console
[21:27] <k1l> phyzloc: 14.04?
[21:28] <phyzloc> k1l: yes
[21:28] <k1l> suao apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[21:28] <k1l> *sudo
[21:28] <phyzloc> k1l: installed
[21:28] <k1l> and then "unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity"
[21:29] <trndr> !eol | ailan
[21:30] <k1l> phyzloc: did you make any attempts with startx so far? that could have ruined your file permissions. take a look at "ls -al " in your /home if all files belong to your user:user
[21:30] <phyzloc> k1l: the reset didn't help :-/ I'll check the files
[21:32] <phyzloc> k1l: with all files, you mean . and .. too?
[21:33] <k1l> no, . and .. can belong to root
[21:33] <phyzloc> k1l: then it's correct
[21:33] <k1l> phyzloc: is that a dual video card setup?
[21:33] <k1l> like nvidia and the intel one in the cpu?
[21:33] <Rug> serverhorror: http://paste.debian.net/101490/
[21:33] <phyzloc> k1l: when I installed nvidia drivers I ran nvidia-xconfig maybe that did something
[21:34] <z1haze> can someone please help me with virtual host on my server?
[21:34] <phyzloc> k1l: I've never used the internal one
[21:34] <k1l> phyzloc: so its a hybrid one?
[21:35] <k1l> phyzloc: you could remove the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[21:35] <phyzloc> k1l: don't know exactly what you mean but the motherboard has a built in card but I'm using and external nvidia card
[21:36] <k1l> phyzloc: ok.
[21:36] <Daghdha> Aha! apparently any interface managed in /etc/network/interfaces is not shown in the network settings in the GUI anywhere. 'Solved' :P
[21:36] <ceblue> phyzloc: if thats a desktop, you're ok, continue. if a laptop it's an optimus setup.
[21:36] <phyzloc> ceblue: it's a desktop
[21:36] <phyzloc> k1l: I don't seem to have xorg.conf
[21:36] <phyzloc> k1l: only see different backupts
[21:37] <phyzloc> *backups
[21:37] <k1l> ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesnt list
[21:37] <phyzloc> no
[21:37] <k1l> hmm
[21:37] <phyzloc> k1l: isn't that a surprise hehe
[21:38] <phyzloc> k1l: can it be regenerated?
[21:38] <k1l> try a "sudo apt-get purge nvidia*"
[21:38] <ceblue> can i set permissions that allow delete but not write. a user needs to manage a download folder by deleting undesired ones, but has no reason to be able to add or modify them
[21:39] <phyzloc> k1l: Ok, it removed bunch of nvidia files
[21:39] <k1l> good. then reboot
[21:39] <phyzloc> k1l: what about xorg.conf?
[21:39] <k1l> its not needed
[21:40] <phyzloc> ok.. rebooting
[21:40] <ceblue> i dpnt thonk it's possible with the regular permissipn system?
[21:41] <ceblue> sorry, using phone keyboard
[21:42] <phyzloc> k1l: It's the same thing :-/ After login I only see the mouse pointer and the background picture.. nothing else
[21:43] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[21:43] <Bundestrojaner> When I create/modify /etc/asound.conf, what do i have to do to make the changes active?
[21:43] <phyzloc> k1l: I don't now how the GUI works but it feels like it's the window manager on top of X that is the problem
[21:43] <phyzloc> now/know
[21:44] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i think sudo alsactl restore
[21:45] <SonicPenguin> or sudo alsa reload
[21:45] <k1l> phyzloc: hmm, then look at ".xsession-errors" if that brings something new
[21:47] <phyzloc> k1l: doesn't say much. Three lines starting with Script for ibus/auto/default
[21:47] <Iulia> Bye everyone! Have a great weekend
[21:48] <ceblue> There used to be a tool to minify a samba smb.conf for faster execution. I don't see mention of this in Trusty. Is this no longer required?
[21:49] <phyzloc> k1l: So the system thinks everything is ok
[21:49] <k1l> phyzloc: sorry i am not to familiar with further digging
[21:50] <phyzloc> k1l: Yeah.. I just don't like reinstalling the whole OS because of this :-/
[21:53] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: from alsactl --help, i guess reload is right.
[21:54] <Bundestrojaner> but it didn't work...
[21:54] <Bundestrojaner> Is there an error-log from alsa? or something similar
[21:54] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, restore or reload?
[21:55] <SonicPenguin> i think alsa reload si rightER
[21:55] <SonicPenguin> it restarts alsa completely
[21:55] <Bundestrojaner> i tried both
[21:55] <SonicPenguin> were the settings reloaded?
[21:56] <Moony22> What do people mean when they say unity is slow
[21:57] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: I've defined a LADSPA-Filter as virtual soundcard, like described here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc
[21:57] <Bundestrojaner> but it doesn't apear in VLC, so it was not reloaded or my code doesn't work
[21:57] <Bundestrojaner> (for testing, i've just copied the code from the wiki)
[21:58] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc#Filter (this code)
[21:59] <phyzloc> k1l: You mentioned compiz before
[22:00] <SonicPenguin>   ok
[22:00] <ceblue> What does an 's' mean on file permissions? I see `drwsrwxr-x`.
[22:00] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, it was /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[22:00] <SonicPenguin> phew, 3 different commands to restart the same thing
[22:01] <k1l> phyzloc: dpkg-reconfigure compiz
[22:01] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: thx
[22:02] <SonicPenguin> np
[22:02] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: alsa-utils doesn't exist
[22:02] <Bundestrojaner> neither global nor in /etc/init.d
[22:02] <phyzloc> k1l: That gives me a list of things not found
[22:03] <phyzloc> k1l: backend, integration, plug-ins etc..
[22:03] <zykotick9> Bundestrojaner: alsa-utils is a package, i don't think it's an executable...
[22:03] <jrib> ceblue: setuid
[22:03] <k1l> phyzloc: hmm, dont know :/
[22:03] <phyzloc> k1l: can I reinstall compiz?
[22:04] <k1l> dont know. i think that is more drivers issue. missing 3d or something
[22:05] <SonicPenguin> i know, but it installs an init script name alsa-utils
[22:05] <SonicPenguin> named*
[22:05] <phyzloc> k1l: Allright.. I think I'll give up hehe thanks for you help!
[22:05] <SonicPenguin> try to install alsa-base and alsa-utils
[22:05] <lucas-arg> hey guys anyone knows how to tab windows in irssi?
[22:05] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: alsa-utils is already installed
[22:06] <Bundestrojaner> but: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart -> sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: command not found
[22:06] <phyzloc> lucas-arg: I use alt+win
[22:06] <phyzloc> lucas-arg: that is window number
[22:06] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, what ubuntu version?
[22:07] <lucas-arg> Bundestrojaner: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-base
[22:07] <SonicPenguin> which*
[22:07] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: Kubuntu 14.04
[22:07] <FaTony> hi, my 14.04 laptop freezes when waking from suspend, how to fix this?
[22:07] <zykotick9> SonicPenguin: you're right, i do have an alsa-utils in init.d... TIL
[22:08] <Bundestrojaner> lucas-arg: both is already installed
[22:08] <lucas-arg> Bundestrojaner: what are you trying to condifure?
[22:08] <Bundestrojaner> my target is upmix 2.0 -> 2.1
[22:08] <lucas-arg> phyzloc: that did the trick, how do i open a new window to enter a different server? so i dont have many terminals open
[22:09] <SonicPenguin> ok so
[22:09] <SonicPenguin> in debian package alsa-utils, this init script is present
[22:09] <SonicPenguin> but not in ubuntu one
[22:09] <Bundestrojaner> lucas-arg: but atm, i only copied the config from http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc#Filter to asound.conf to test it
[22:09] <zykotick9> lucas-arg: you are aware that irssi, can connect to multiple servers, with multiple channels in a single window right?
[22:10] <lucas-arg> zykotick9: i know dont know how to open a new windows thats all
[22:10] <SonicPenguin> reading the script, it actually does alsa restore <sound card>
[22:11] <SonicPenguin> so maybe you should do alsactl restore <sound_card>
[22:12] <SonicPenguin> restore <card #> load current driver setup for one or each soundcards from configuration file
[22:13] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: i found exaclty your last quote in alsactl --help
[22:13] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: but i tried alsactl restort and alsa reload - nothing worked
[22:13] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i pasted from it lol
[22:14] <SonicPenguin> did you specify the sound card?
[22:14] <Bundestrojaner> no, i thougt not doing it reloads all?
[22:14] <SonicPenguin> well, it doens't say anything about that
[22:14] <SonicPenguin> so if it asks for the sound card, you should provide the sound card
[22:15] <SonicPenguin> in fact, in alsa-utils script, this command is in a for loop
[22:15] <SonicPenguin> because it accepts one card at time
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: alsactl: load_state:1757: Cannot find soundcard 'lowpass'...
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> alsactl: load_state:1757: Cannot find soundcard 'test'...
[22:16] <SonicPenguin> try with the number
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> i don't know their number?
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> where can i found a number of a virtuel soundcard?
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> find
[22:18] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, aplay -l
[22:18] <superboot> Hi all. Is there a way to get a 'dpkg -L' type output from apt-cache?
[22:18] <SonicPenguin> it can be a card or a device
[22:19] <jrib> superboot: why?  What do you want to accomplish?
[22:19] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: none of them is in the list, but the title is "list of Hardware devices"
[22:19] <hyprvx> I'm trying to execute a .SH script, but it keeps opening in gedit. How can I make it actually execute?
[22:19] <jrib> hyprvx: what is this script for?
[22:19] <hyprvx> I've done chmod -x, and set it to "Allow Executing File as Program"
[22:19] <hyprvx> jrib, it's a visual novel
[22:19] <mitas> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 with an LVM Logical Volume that contains a RAID1 array. Using the mini iso the installer somehow fails to install it's bootloader after install. Using the Live CD, Ubuntu recognizes all my LVM volume except the one that I planned for my home drive.
[22:19] <jrib> hyprvx: +x not -x
[22:19]  * hyprvx facepalms
[22:19] <Luqman> Hi! I wanted to know if there any plans on fixing the whole situation with multiarch and -dev packages. Right now a lot of -dev packages end up conflicting i.e libxi-dev vs libxi-dev:i386
[22:19] <hyprvx> thank you jrib
[22:20] <SonicPenguin> superboot, if the package is not installed you should use apt-file
[22:20] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, none of your virtual devices?
[22:20] <genii> hyprvx: Does it have a shebang?
[22:20] <genii> Oh, they left now :-/
[22:20] <mitas> Luqman, probably not a question for this channel, try ubuntu-offtopic instead
[22:21] <superboot> SonicPenguin: Thanks!
[22:21] <AndChat|268400> mitas: see the ubuntu wiki raid guide for how to install onto a mirror
[22:21] <SonicPenguin> superboot, np
[22:21] <Luqman> mitas: ok thanks
[22:21] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: no, the file asound.conf didn't exist yet, i've created it...
[22:21] <Bundestrojaner> that's why i asked how to get alsa to read it
[22:22] <Bundestrojaner> maybe alsa didn't read the file yet
[22:22] <mitas> !raid | mitas
[22:22] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, ooh ok i get it now
[22:22] <hyprvx> After running chmod (yes, as sudo), it's still not executing, just opening gedit
[22:23] <zykotick9> hyprvx: try opening a terminal and running it...
[22:24] <SonicPenguin> try to reload every device anyway
[22:24] <hyprvx> It says "Permission denied"
[22:24] <SonicPenguin> every doc points at this alsa-utils initscript to reload asoundrc
[22:24] <genii> hyprvx: Does it have a shebang at the beginning of the file?
[22:25] <SonicPenguin> i think you will end up restart the pc lol
[22:25] <hyprvx> shebang?
[22:25] <AndChat|268400> hash bang #!
[22:25] <genii> hyprvx: Yes, it is that line you see that starts something like: #!/bin/bash
[22:25] <mitas> AndChat|268400, I read the Wiki, it mentions nothing useful about installer compatibility. Mind you, the RAID1-array is recognized after install, only during the install procedure I cannot get it to mount /home to that LVM volume.
[22:25] <hyprvx> the first line is #!/bin/sh
[22:25] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: this is not windoze^^
[22:25] <Bundestrojaner> and if the file didn't exist, i'm not sure if it won't be just ignored
[22:26] <Busybyeski> i just realized the default font is called Ubuntu.  it's pretty beautiful
[22:26] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i know, but this is an extreme case
[22:27] <SonicPenguin> the file doesn't exist for sure
[22:27] <yuji> This Ubuntu help or no?
[22:27] <SonicPenguin> it's ubuntu packaging different from debian's
[22:27] <zykotick9> hyprvx: is this on a fat/ntfs partition?  if so, POSIX's executable bit will have no effect.  is it a bash/sh script or something else?
[22:27] <genii> hyprvx: What does ls -l  say for it?  eg: same owner as that trying to run it?
[22:27] <k1l> yuji: yes, this is the ubuntu support channel
[22:27] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: but i don't know anything better than rebooting. i asked in #alsa too, but noone answered. They should rename their channel to #afk
[22:28] <hyprvx> zykotick9: I'm not entirely sure, it's a Ren'Py package
[22:28] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i told you, restart for this time
[22:28] <yuji> Ah. Well, any way I can remove all those dash plugins attempting "results" and fix audio being too low? Pulse audio works but the default snd control doesn't properly work.
[22:29] <SonicPenguin> then, when the devices are discovered, you can reload them as usual
[22:29] <AndChat|268400> mitas: are you usinf the server install iso?
[22:29] <chrissso> hey guys, I cant put files from /home into trash. only immediately delete. with files from /data its no problem. Why is that?? I dont get it?!?!
[22:29] <mitas> AndChat|268400, So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place here. The Live CD installer recognizes all of my LVM volumes, except the one I intended to use as my home drive The Mini ISO recognizes my LVM setup, but fails to install Grub2 (works without problems on the LiveCD installer).
[22:29]  * yuji attempts to find a way to default to performance in cpu governor.
[22:29] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: i'll try it
[22:29] <hyprvx> genii: it's the same owner as the user
[22:29] <mitas> AndChat|268400, no, I'm using the Mini CD ISO, which should be sufficient for complex setups like mine.
[22:29] <chrissso> hyprvx: how do i check that?
[22:30] <chrissso> hyprvx: i have only one username/loginname
[22:30] <mitas> AndChat|268400, except it fails miserably on installing Grub2, rendering the system unable to boot...
[22:30] <hyprvx> chrissso: ?
[22:30] <AndChat|268400> mitas: The only time I have done it was with the server iso which is able to install onto a raid 1. I can't help with the mini ISO
[22:31] <chrissso> hyprvx: I dont know how to check the owner of a partition or directory
[22:31] <yuji> Anyone know how I can force ubuntu to always boot into performance mode instead of ondemand?
[22:31] <hyprvx> chrissso: ls -l AFAIK
[22:31] <genii> hyprvx: It's conceivable the "denied" message is it actually executing but  some element within the script is trying to do something to a file or location the user running it doesn't have permission for.
[22:31] <hyprvx> I tried running it as sudo
[22:32] <chrissso> hyprvx: ok its all the same name
[22:32] <genii> chrissso: Partitions are always owned by root, it gets set every boot in udev. If you chmod the root of a prtition it always reverts
[22:32] <mitas> AndChat|268400, thanks for the suggestion, but does the server ISO recognize LVM as well?
[22:32] <genii> chown, rather
[22:33] <yuji> Lovely support, no wonder Debian is the preferred distro. Quite frankly Ubuntu is appalling. *gutmann's method deleting Ubuntu*
[22:33] <AndChat|268400> mitas: Yes. And you could also setup the mirror *after* installation if you find that easier.
[22:33] <chrissso> if I check "ls -l" everything shows the same username
[22:33] <chrissso> so its all owned by me
[22:34] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: I've rebooted, neither aplay nor vlc lists more than the hardware-soundcards
[22:34] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, wow...
[22:35] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, im clueless now
[22:35] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: is there no error-log or something like that?
[22:35] <chrissso> where can I check if the /data and /home have different rights regarding deleteing files?
[22:35] <hyprvx> hiusuiDUIWDY
[22:35] <hyprvx> UASDJHUWHUIQHQR
[22:35] <hyprvx> UDGWGDWGWDGWEREG
[22:35] <hyprvx> GDIKXCBHZXF67TER
[22:35] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, yes, you can find boot time log in /var/log/syslog
[22:36] <z1haze> someone please help :( im trying to add another website to my dedicated box but i dont know how.. i see all the individual sites in /home/www/ but they are not file folders, they are reading as MS-DOS Applications.. how do i make those?
[22:36] <hyprvx> pardon me, a friend stole my laptop for a minutes
[22:36] <hyprvx> minte
[22:36] <hyprvx> minute*
[22:37] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: but their's no alsa-log?
[22:37] <z1haze> is there a better channel i can join to get help with a webserver on ubuntu?
[22:38] <mitas> AndChat|268400, if you know of a reliable way to clone a home drive to another volume and mount it instead of the initial /home partition, I will happily try it. both cp -Rp /home /homenew && vi /etc/fstab to substiitute the mappings for /home and /homenew and the rsync variant failed. The cp/ rsync action shows no error messages, but after restarting the system, any other user/group other than $USER and root will not be able to access the
[22:38] <mitas>  partition, i.e. Firefox can't write to the home drive and fails to start.
[22:38] <genii> z1haze: Possibly #ubuntu-server  ...?
[22:38] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i dont think so
[22:38] <SonicPenguin> by the way syslog gathers quite a few logs
[22:38] <SonicPenguin> anyway, check yout /var/log folder
[22:39] <SonicPenguin> your*
[22:39] <mitas> AndChat|268400, if you know of a reliable way to clone a home drive to another volume and mount it instead of the initial /home partition, I will happily try it. both cp -Rp /home/* /homenew && vi /etc/fstab to substiitute the mappings for /home and /homenew and the rsync variant failed. The cp/ rsync action shows no error messages, but after restarting the system, any other user/group other than $USER and root will not be able to access t
[22:39] <mitas> he partition, i.e. Firefox can't write to the home drive and fails to start.
[22:40] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: maybe alsa is still built without ladspa-support and that's why my virtual soundcard is not created :(
[22:40] <mitas> ^sorry for repeat, the cp line was not complete
[22:40] <Bundestrojaner> but i have no idea how to check that
[22:40] <daftykins> mitas: do it from a liveCD / different user instead of from an active session maybe
[22:40] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, that's would be strange
[22:41] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, check if you miss some ladspa related packages
[22:41] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i rember installing some packages just to acitvate a system wide equalizer
[22:42] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: the wiki where i found the filter-config says, the latest Ubuntu has alsa compiled without ladspa-support. but that was ubuntu 10.10
[22:44] <mitas> daftykins, performing the copy as another user would make no sense since that user will typically reside on the same home drive, except maybe from a remote system or indeed a LiveCD. Thanks for the hint.
[22:44] <Praxi> trying to boot up a server to the ubuntu server installation cd.  If I put the CD in, the server hangs and just shows a blinking cursor.  I have tried the same disk on a workstation and was succesful.
[22:44] <daftykins> mitas: it made sense to me in terms of not locking any /home content for that user :)
[22:45] <Praxi> Do I need to be trying to find some alternate installer, or mashing a key or anything?
[22:45] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i dont know, trusty has some packages that contain ladspa plugins
[22:45] <SonicPenguin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=i386&searchon=names&keywords=ladspa
[22:45] <daftykins> Praxi: anything exotic about that system?
[22:45] <SonicPenguin> some maybe it is compiled with alsa support
[22:45] <Praxi> its an older server system with adaptec raid, nothing I would consider exotic daftykins
[22:46] <daftykins> how about the graphics hardware?
[22:46] <Praxi> some old xeons, 4gb memory if I recall
[22:46] <Praxi> just onboard, so intel
[22:46] <OerHeks> xeon without PAE ?
[22:47] <mitas> daftykins, not while cloning the *entire* home partition. doing so from another user on that system (except root) would garble the active user's home drive. I guess I can do it as true root, while in single user mode.
[22:47] <daftykins> mitas: single user mode doesn't exist
[22:47] <Praxi> not sure OerHeks
[22:48] <mitas> daftykins, not anymore? runlevel 1?
[22:48] <SonicPenguin> ladspa*
[22:48] <daftykins> ubuntu doesn't use runlevels
[22:48] <daftykins> Praxi: wouldn't hurt to try editing the boot parameters to watch kernel messages
[22:49] <Praxi> Should I be hitting a key somewhere to make that happen, or is that a modification of the files on the CD daftykins ?
[22:49] <mitas> daftykins, you are of course right, serves me right to try to tackle this situation with a general linux method using systemV
[22:51] <daftykins> mitas: recovery boot should work however :) dropping to a root shell
[22:51] <daftykins> Praxi: hmm not too familiar with the server boot menu from memory, but it may well have options there
[22:51] <Praxi> I never see the boot menu
[22:51] <Praxi> just goes to a blinking cursor
[22:51] <agnor> hello, can you guys help me? i'm trying to connect my laptop to TV via VGA to DVI on my new xubuntu 14.04 but i get no signal on my TV
[22:52] <Praxi> pop the disc and it works on a PC, so I know the disc is good, also tried replacing the dvd drive on the server to no effect
[22:53] <tbergman> Hi all.  What's the avai;ai;ity for a distro of ubuntu for a galaxy phone?
[22:53] <mitas> daftykins, I'm always keen on alternatives, I'll give it another try then
[22:54] <daftykins> !touch | tbergman
[22:54] <tbergman> thanks daftykins
[22:55] <daftykins> np
[22:55] <Busybyeski> i can't get java applets to work again. :( what do i need beyond the icedtea plugin?
[22:59] <Busybyeski> chrome://plugins doesn't show the icedtea plugin, how can i get them linked?
[23:00] <mitas> Busybyeski, did you install icedtea proper? The plugin won't be much use without it...
[23:01] <Busybyeski> icedtea java web start?
[23:01] <Busybyeski> it was working last week, now it appears not to be starting up with chrome
[23:01] <brainwash> Busybyeski: http://askubuntu.com/questions/470594/how-do-i-get-java-working-on-google-chrome-35
[23:02] <mitas> did you open chrome from a terminal, so you can see any errors that might appear while trying to launch your App?
[23:02] <Busybyeski> brainwash: bummer. thanks
[23:03] <Busybyeski> how can i lock upgrades?
[23:04] <Busybyeski> they broke both android chrome and ubuntu chrome for me in this 35 update
[23:08] <daftykins> Busybyeski: i wonder if that's something to do with the post which says chrome is starting to change compatibility when it comes to add-ons.
[23:08] <Busybyeski> daftykins: it looks like their change from gtk2
[23:17] <speaker1234> need help with getting a lsi 3ware 9750 card working
[23:18] <mitas> Is there any way I can switch the filesystem to full read/write mode when booting to a recovery terminal? I don't need training wheels.
[23:18] <DaveyG> Hi all,   I would like to learn the basics of linux, considering a college course if i have too. However i tend to learn best by trying stuff and breaking it. I guess i have a short atention span.  Any tips about what i should understand as a basis would be greatly recieved.
[23:18] <jimi_> My gnome is missing a menu that lets you lock/logout etc.. after dist-upgrade
[23:19] <daftykins> mitas: just remount / as rw
[23:19] <daftykins> !recovery
[23:19] <jrib> DaveyG: play and break inside a virtual machine
[23:19] <DaveyG> Anyone know how i can backup a ubuntu system via cli.
[23:19] <jrib> !backup | DaveyG
[23:19] <mitas> daftykins, the alternate Install CD does sadly not exist anymore...
[23:20] <jrib> DaveyG: but for playing and breaking just use a virtual machine and snapshots
[23:20] <daftykins> mitas: my bad, that bot trigger didn't have what i was after
[23:20] <mitas> daftykins, never mind, thank you for trying :-)
[23:20] <daftykins> mitas: mount -o remount,rw /
[23:21] <daftykins> ^in the root shell
[23:22] <enav> hello, if i create a local repository for a school with no internet, a kid install for example gimp from that local repo and then it connect to internet later, will this kid get updates from the ubuntu repos for that app??? or this app will only look for new versions on that local repo ???
[23:22] <mitas> daftykins, yes that works. it just seems silly that the default for the rescue system is to remote read-only, does anyone know the reason for that?
[23:23] <speaker1234> Figuring out how to make a 3ware 9750 card work?
[23:23] <speaker1234>  
[23:23] <matju> If I need to troubleshoot whether a disk "read error" and random filesystem damage are caused by the CPU, the motherboard or the hard-disk's own board, how would I do that ? Is there some kind of CPU stress-test tool that can detect damage ? (I've already done a hd surface test and a RAM test)
[23:23] <mitas> daftykins, remote should be mount (spelling checker acting up)
[23:24] <daftykins> mitas: well, you know the old one about 'with great power comes great responsibility' ?
[23:24] <daftykins> mitas: anywho i'm afraid nobody policy setting lurks here so it's solely support ^_^
[23:25] <daftykins> speaker1234: ooh 3ware... i have several but not under Linux. what distro are you trying to use?
[23:25] <speaker1234> ubuntu 14.04
[23:25] <speaker1234> tring to set up a zfs array
[23:25] <DaveyG> I thought i would put this out there, ive been looking into vpns and ive found proxpn. seems very good. found it via the twit network. However if you use code AGTX40 you can get 40% off rather than 20.
[23:26] <mitas> daftykins, I know that saying, but imro. Rescue mode should be without training wheels. It should not be started by someone who doesn't know the command line
[23:27] <daftykins> ok, let's try to avoid the preaching in here though
[23:27] <speaker1234> What's weird is it sees the card but doesn't see any of the attached disks
[23:27] <daftykins> you can discuss policy in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:27] <daftykins> speaker1234: have you created a unit yet?
[23:27] <mitas> daftykins, but I'll keep my inquiries focused on support questions from now on.
[23:27] <daftykins> good to hear :)
[23:28] <speaker1234> daftykins: Not going to. Using it strictly as a jbod
[23:29] <DaveyG> Gui's in my opinion should be avoided when it comes to linux.  Cli is a bit of a pain but after a little while you start to understand and from then you are much better off.
[23:30] <daftykins> speaker1234: right, but i think you have to specify single disks as JBOD in the controller firmware
[23:30] <daftykins> speaker1234: when you get the 3ware screen on bootup, do you see the message "3ware BIOS installed succesfully!" ?
[23:30] <speaker1234> I broke the raid set apart. That's not sufficient? It lists all of the drives as visible in the BIOS
[23:30] <enav> hello, if i create a local repository for a school with no internet, a kid install for example gimp from that local repo and then it connect to internet later, will this kid get updates from the ubuntu repos for that app??? or this app will only look for new versions on that local repo ???
[23:30] <speaker1234> no, it does not install the bios
[23:30] <daftykins> if not you're probably not going to see proper functionality, but i can't remember 100% as i don't JBOD on mine
[23:31] <daftykins> ok well go in and select a single disk and see what you can do with it
[23:31] <daftykins> i might be wrong but it's my best idea
[23:31] <LjL-Laplet> mitas: for a start, you don't mount read-write if you're starting a system so you can fsck it
[23:31] <speaker1234> it is better than my ideas :-)
[23:31] <nith1210> enav: yes.
[23:32] <nith1210> enav: He will get updates from the ubuntu repos.
[23:32] <speaker1234> k in bios now
[23:32] <enav> so repos are just list of sources and the updater will try to find the latest verrsion in the available sources right ?
[23:33] <speaker1234> i see all the drives
[23:33] <nith1210> enav: Yes.
[23:33] <Bashing-om> enav: The base of "updating" is from the "/etc/apt/sources.list" file. Whatever is set within this file determines where the updates cvome from.
[23:34] <nith1210> enav: Basically, grab all the sources, go fetch all their packages, concatinate the list and check for the highest version.
[23:34] <enav> interesting
[23:34] <enav> oh
[23:34] <mitas> LjL-Laplet, yes, that makes sense. I just miss old runlevel 1 where a couple of services might not be loaded, but the system itself is in a pretty normal state.
[23:34] <nith1210> enav: sorry, to clarify
[23:35] <LjL-Laplet> mitas: uhm well if you just don't want X to load, i think you can pass "text" to the kernel to achieve that
[23:35] <nith1210> enav: go fetch all of their "Packages" files, which are the list of packages that repository has and their versions.
[23:35] <enav> im between 3 beautiful mountains and internet here is limited, i would like to create a full copy of the ubuntu repo in english and spanish for this town, a lot of kids have laptops, what is the best approach i should try
[23:36] <daftykins> enav: it's huge, get shipped a disk of it
[23:36] <nith1210> enav: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[23:36] <enav> how much is huge
[23:36] <nith1210> enav: basically you're asking how to set up a Mirror, that page should tell you what you need
[23:36] <daftykins> hundreds of gigabytes
[23:36] <zykotick9> daftykins: i'm unaware the ubuntu makes the repo available on disks...
[23:37] <nith1210> enav: according to that page, 642GB as of 2013-04-04
[23:37] <daftykins> zykotick9: *they* don't
[23:37] <DaveyG> I would be more concerned about the hardware your installing it on, rather than the download size.
[23:37] <enav> i see
[23:37] <daftykins> zykotick9: also the company is called Canonical
[23:37] <enav> there is a way to only select some of the software and create a repo with those just easy?
[23:38] <enav> this is more like community service
[23:38] <zykotick9> daftykins: really?  Canonical you say... ;)  i'm well aware.
[23:38] <enav> i cant spend months on this
[23:38] <nith1210> enav: Yes, you can using apt-ftparchive and a bit of tweaking
[23:38] <daftykins> zykotick9: just teasing your inaccuracy ;)
[23:38] <speaker1234> nith1210: or apt-mirror
[23:39] <nith1210> speaker1234: can apt-mirror do partials?
[23:39] <speaker1234> yes
[23:39] <enav> i will research about those
[23:39] <zykotick9> enav: will this be a local connection to your mirror, or across the internet?  if it's local, check out apt-cacher-ng.
[23:39] <mitas> LjL-Laplet, that's not the same, runlevel 1 used to be single user mode, Oh well, never mind.
[23:39] <enav> it will be a local wifi connection
[23:39] <nith1210> speaker1234: awesome; enav: as speaker1234 says.
[23:39] <daftykins> i agree with the apt-mirror idea ^
[23:39] <daftykins> download once, share
[23:40] <speaker1234> daftykins: just found out that the 9750 will not do jbod
[23:40] <speaker1234> bfh.
[23:40] <daftykins> speaker1234: are you sure? that seems ridiculous
[23:40] <speaker1234> http://titan.physx.u-szeged.hu/opt/3ware/3DM2/help/en/3ware_Intro.2.6.html
[23:41] <nith1210> enav: Also, if you also have custom packages, I recommend mini-dinstall for those.
[23:42] <daftykins> speaker1234: are you sure that doesn't just mean that inside the BIOS it's called 'Single Disk' when you select one and say create?
[23:42] <speaker1234> This is really frustrating because I've got 16 4 GB drives and there's no way I'm going to raid them without ZFS level data integrity checking
[23:43] <speaker1234> I mean 4 terabyte drives
[23:43] <daftykins> wow you're foregoing the functionality of the 3ware and trying to just use the 3ware as a dumb SATA port extender?
[23:43] <daftykins> why on earth D:
[23:43] <speaker1234> daftykins: Because it's what I have and I don't have to buy anything else
[23:44]  * zykotick9 doesn't understand the hype around ZFS, but if you want to use that filesystem, i'd suggest an OS that supports it natively (and that can never be linux)
[23:45] <speaker1234> zykotick9: Read the research papers on ZFS and why it's very important. And it's already natively supported on Linux.
[23:45] <zykotick9> speaker1234: ZFS's restore reminds me a lot, of Windows feature - only at the file system level.  but i wouldn't use it with gnu/linux myself.
[23:46] <zykotick9> speaker1234: ZFS will NEVER be in the linux source...
[23:46] <Lingo____> kljkl
[23:46] <speaker1234> zykotick9: look deeper and Who cares if it's not in the Linux source. It's an independent package for multiple platforms
[23:47] <Tilo15> Hello, I was wondering if there was any way at all to get the latest Ubuntu touch on the 2012 Nexus 7
[23:47] <speaker1234> It's like saying bind is no good because it's not the Linux source
[23:47] <mitas> !touch | Tilo15
[23:48] <Lingo____> klkl
[23:48] <speaker1234> daftykins: Looking in the control information, it has 16 drives discovered but no active drives.
[23:48] <Tilo15> Thanks mitas, it says the nexus 7 2012 is deprecated. I was just wondering if there was any other way of getting the latest verson
[23:48] <Tilo15> *version
[23:49] <daftykins> speaker1234: don't you only have 4?
[23:49] <speaker1234> 16 4tb drives
[23:49] <speaker1234> and a drive bay good for another 60
[23:50] <mitas> Tilo15, the sources are there, you can cross-compile them for your particular system, but you do need a proper toolchain for the platform you are going to compile for.
[23:52] <speaker1234> daftykins: bleck.  I'm giving up for tonight.
[23:52] <daftykins> speaker1234: i'd be very curious to see that controller BIOS :)
[23:52] <Tilo15> mitas: Is there any help on how to do that?
[23:53] <daftykins> speaker1234: latest card BIOS i assume?
[23:53] <speaker1234> don't know
[23:53] <speaker1234> bios is be9x 5.11.00.006
[23:54] <speaker1234> fw version fh9x 5.12.00.007
[23:54] <daftykins> just visit the LSI site to find out
[23:55] <ikonia> got to make sure the card's bios is not to low/high for the kernel module
[23:56] <speaker1234> looks like i need to upgrade the bios
[23:56] <mitas> Tilo15, it should be explained in the README file that comes with the source, though not specific for your platform, just in general. You might find the tools and support linked on on xda-developers.com or some other similar place.
[23:57] <Tilo15> Thank you mitas, I'll have a look at that
[23:58] <speaker1234> all the code dates from 2012
[23:58] <ikonia> that's not a bad thing
[23:58] <ikonia> there is normally a range that the bios must be in for the kernel module
[23:58] <ikonia> too new/too old can be bad
[23:58] <ikonia> so don't do it blind
[23:59] <speaker1234> I probably need a new card for jbod support
[23:59] <ikonia> err n
[23:59] <ikonia> no
[23:59] <ikonia> a raid card that doesn't support jbod would be very very rare