Shock | sarnold: thanks for all the help, I learned a lot tonight. I'll check back tomorrow. good night! | 00:02 |
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Logan_ | ari-tczew: why did you sync connman? | 00:07 |
Logan_ | "feel free to take" doesn't mean "feel free to indiscriminately sync" | 00:08 |
ari-tczew | Logan_: that's yours own understanding, I didn't say that | 00:10 |
Logan_ | okay, so explain why you dropped the entire delta | 00:11 |
ari-tczew | Logan_: because Debian has pulled in our changes | 00:12 |
ari-tczew | Logan_: what is it? inspection? | 00:12 |
ari-tczew | Logan_: I'm not spying your uploads even if they got in result FTBFS | 00:13 |
Logan_ | now you're accusing me of spying on you? | 00:13 |
Logan_ | I was the TIL for that package, and I deferred it to someone else because of the extensive changes that needed to be considered | 00:13 |
Logan_ | then I see that it was synced in #ubuntu-release | 00:14 |
ari-tczew | Logan_: dunno, that was ~10 minutes ago | 00:14 |
Logan_ | so you don't remember? | 00:14 |
ari-tczew | Logan_: I mean that was fresh upload | 00:14 |
ari-tczew | answer "dunno" is related to your "spying" topic | 00:15 |
Logan_ | ari-tczew: did you consider the differences in the install files? | 00:19 |
infinity | ari-tczew: Unless the Debian changelog is awfully quiet about it, there's no way this has our entire delta. | 00:20 |
infinity | + - Add upstart script. | 00:20 |
infinity | + - Add apport hook and crashdb file. | 00:20 |
infinity | + - Notify the user a reboot is required after updating connman. | 00:20 |
infinity | + - Don't disable the service if NetworkManager or wicd are installed; we use | 00:20 |
infinity | + Conflicts instead. | 00:21 |
infinity | + - Recommend indicator-network. | 00:21 |
infinity | For instance... | 00:21 |
infinity | Plus the manpgage changes, etc. | 00:21 |
Logan_ | all of those are actually in Debian, but there are things that were wiped out of the install file that probably shouldn't have | 00:22 |
infinity | Logan_: Really? Kay, the debian changelog mentions none of them, I haven't actually looked at the source. | 00:22 |
Logan_ | yeah, the changelog is very sparse in Debian and doesn't reflect everything | 00:22 |
dobey | infinity: hi! feeling better? | 00:25 |
infinity | dobey: Nope! | 00:25 |
dobey | infinity: you going to be able to travel? | 00:25 |
infinity | dobey: Yeah, I'll scoop myself on to the plane and medicate with vodka. | 00:26 |
dobey | heh | 00:26 |
Logan_ | ari-tczew: if you want to keep your MOTU rights, I'd suggest that you become more cooperative and less nasty | 00:26 |
infinity | Logan_: You might also want to avoid making threats. ;) | 00:27 |
dobey | infinity: were you going to push the kernel from quantal-proposed out to -updates, btw? | 00:27 |
infinity | (WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?) | 00:27 |
infinity | dobey: Yeah, when that whole batch goes out. Looks like it'll be Monday. | 00:27 |
Logan_ | infinity: fair enough | 00:27 |
dobey | infinity: ah ok | 00:28 |
dobey | infinity: hope you feel better tomorrow, and i'll see you in amsterdam :) | 00:28 |
infinity | dobey: Do you have some particular interest in quantal, or just can't wait for LP to stop pretending it's a valid release? | 00:28 |
infinity | dobey: AMS? Oh, are we on the same flight to Malta? | 00:29 |
dobey | infinity: someone came into #launchpad complaining about quantal being still "supported" | 00:29 |
dobey | infinity: yeah, seems about 6 of us are on the same flight from AMS->MLA | 00:30 |
infinity | dobey: Yeah, it's amazing how a simple string can annoy people so much. I'd suggest sending them some white-out. | 00:30 |
dobey | infinity: i then discovered i have enough powers to twiddle that bit to make it "obsolete" but then colin mentioned you were going to push a kernel for it | 00:31 |
infinity | dobey: 6 of us? Impressive. I guess we'll split 2 cabs, or find a van. And roshambo for the honor of paying/expensing. | 00:31 |
dobey | heh | 00:32 |
Logan_ | Malta? what for? | 00:32 |
infinity | dobey: SRSLY? You have that power? | 00:32 |
dobey | infinity: i guess all of ~registry does | 00:32 |
infinity | How wonderfully broken. | 00:33 |
infinity | Logan_: Canonical sprinty stuff. Nowhere near as exciting and vacationy as it sounds. | 00:34 |
dobey | well, i should go back to getting ready for malta | 00:34 |
infinity | Logan_: I might gaze longingly at a beach from a hotel window for a few minutes. | 00:34 |
ScottK | Find a manager and make them expense the cab. | 00:36 |
ari-tczew | Logan_: yes, I considered. I thought just that it's OK if now connman got splitted off package connman-vpn. | 00:39 |
Logan_ | ari-tczew: what about the /usr/lib stuff? | 00:39 |
Logan_ | oh, I see, that's also in the VPN file | 00:40 |
Logan_ | my apologies for assuming that something went wrong :P | 00:41 |
ari-tczew | Logan_: no problem. We all make mistakes. | 00:44 |
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mlankhorst | so i dreamed that my sru was rejected because my house leaked when i was taking a shower, the fact it was already leaking didn't convince the sru admins :/ so i had to do a new upload to fix that or something, but I woke up | 05:32 |
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Shock | good morning | 09:00 |
mqvist | Hi! I hope someone will be help me answer this question! I am writing a small utility that needs to control some parameters for a wireless network card. These parameters can be changed using "iw" and "iwconfig", but I thought I would rather do it directly through libiw. Unfortunately I can't find any documentation for the API. What is the best practice in this case? Is it "ok" to call iw as shell commands, or would that make my utility less | 09:58 |
mqvist | portable to other platforms? (I need to run it on several different platforms) | 09:58 |
mqvist | I am writing this in c, btw | 09:58 |
sladen | mqvist: fetch the source for 'iw' and 'iwconfig', and see what they do | 10:09 |
sladen | mqvist: then you can do that directly | 10:09 |
xnox | mlankhorst: we may need to see you every week from now on.... | 11:53 |
mlankhorst | lol | 12:03 |
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Shock | sarnold: hi. now that I generated the debdiff, what do I do with it? | 20:53 |
xnox | Shock: attach it to the bug report & subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug report. | 20:54 |
xnox | Shock: that will trigger it to appear in the sponsorship queue, for review & upload. | 20:55 |
Shock | xnox: thanks | 21:05 |
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