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Shocksarnold: thanks for all the help, I learned a lot tonight. I'll check back tomorrow. good night!00:02
Logan_ari-tczew: why did you sync connman?00:07
Logan_"feel free to take" doesn't mean "feel free to indiscriminately sync"00:08
ari-tczewLogan_: that's yours own understanding, I didn't say that00:10
Logan_okay, so explain why you dropped the entire delta00:11
ari-tczewLogan_: because Debian has pulled in our changes00:12
ari-tczewLogan_: what is it? inspection?00:12
ari-tczewLogan_: I'm not spying your uploads even if they got in result FTBFS00:13
Logan_now you're accusing me of spying on you?00:13
Logan_I was the TIL for that package, and I deferred it to someone else because of the extensive changes that needed to be considered00:13
Logan_then I see that it was synced in #ubuntu-release00:14
ari-tczewLogan_: dunno, that was ~10 minutes ago00:14
Logan_so you don't remember?00:14
ari-tczewLogan_: I mean that was fresh upload00:14
ari-tczewanswer "dunno" is related to your "spying" topic00:15
Logan_ari-tczew: did you consider the differences in the install files?00:19
infinityari-tczew: Unless the Debian changelog is awfully quiet about it, there's no way this has our entire delta.00:20
infinity+    - Add upstart script.00:20
infinity+    - Add apport hook and crashdb file.00:20
infinity+    - Notify the user a reboot is required after updating connman.00:20
infinity+    - Don't disable the service if NetworkManager or wicd are installed; we use00:20
infinity+      Conflicts instead.00:21
infinity+    - Recommend indicator-network.00:21
infinityFor instance...00:21
infinityPlus the manpgage changes, etc.00:21
Logan_all of those are actually in Debian, but there are things that were wiped out of the install file that probably shouldn't have00:22
infinityLogan_: Really?  Kay, the debian changelog mentions none of them, I haven't actually looked at the source.00:22
Logan_yeah, the changelog is very sparse in Debian and doesn't reflect everything00:22
dobeyinfinity: hi! feeling better?00:25
infinitydobey: Nope!00:25
dobeyinfinity: you going to be able to travel?00:25
infinitydobey: Yeah, I'll scoop myself on to the plane and medicate with vodka.00:26
dobeyheh00:26
Logan_ari-tczew: if you want to keep your MOTU rights, I'd suggest that you become more cooperative and less nasty00:26
infinityLogan_: You might also want to avoid making threats. ;)00:27
dobeyinfinity: were you going to push the kernel from quantal-proposed out to -updates, btw?00:27
infinity(WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?)00:27
infinitydobey: Yeah, when that whole batch goes out.  Looks like it'll be Monday.00:27
Logan_infinity: fair enough00:27
dobeyinfinity: ah ok00:28
dobeyinfinity: hope you feel better tomorrow, and i'll see you in amsterdam :)00:28
infinitydobey: Do you have some particular interest in quantal, or just can't wait for LP to stop pretending it's a valid release?00:28
infinitydobey: AMS?  Oh, are we on the same flight to Malta?00:29
dobeyinfinity: someone came into #launchpad complaining about quantal being still "supported"00:29
dobeyinfinity: yeah, seems about 6 of us are on the same flight from AMS->MLA00:30
infinitydobey: Yeah, it's amazing how a simple string can annoy people so much.  I'd suggest sending them some white-out.00:30
dobeyinfinity: i then discovered i have enough powers to twiddle that bit to make it "obsolete" but then colin mentioned you were going to push a kernel for it00:31
infinitydobey: 6 of us?  Impressive.  I guess we'll split 2 cabs, or find a van.  And roshambo for the honor of paying/expensing.00:31
dobeyheh00:32
Logan_Malta? what for?00:32
infinitydobey: SRSLY?  You have that power?00:32
dobeyinfinity: i guess all of ~registry does00:32
infinityHow wonderfully broken.00:33
infinityLogan_: Canonical sprinty stuff.  Nowhere near as exciting and vacationy as it sounds.00:34
dobeywell, i should go back to getting ready for malta00:34
infinityLogan_: I might gaze longingly at a beach from a hotel window for a few minutes.00:34
ScottKFind a manager and make them expense the cab.00:36
ari-tczewLogan_: yes, I considered. I thought just that it's OK if now connman got splitted off package connman-vpn.00:39
Logan_ari-tczew: what about the /usr/lib stuff?00:39
Logan_oh, I see, that's also in the VPN file00:40
Logan_my apologies for assuming that something went wrong :P00:41
ari-tczewLogan_: no problem. We all make mistakes.00:44
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mlankhorstso i dreamed that my sru was rejected because my house leaked when i was taking a shower, the fact it was already leaking didn't convince the sru admins :/ so i had to do a new upload to fix that or something, but I woke up05:32
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* ScottK takes notes.06:26
Shockgood morning09:00
mqvistHi! I hope someone will be help me answer this question! I am writing a small utility that needs to control some parameters for a wireless network card. These parameters can be changed using "iw" and "iwconfig", but I thought I would rather do it directly through libiw. Unfortunately I can't find any documentation for the API. What is the best practice in this case? Is it "ok" to call iw as shell commands, or would that make my utility less09:58
mqvist portable to other platforms? (I need to run it on several different platforms)09:58
mqvistI am writing this in c, btw09:58
sladenmqvist: fetch the source for 'iw' and 'iwconfig', and see what they do10:09
sladenmqvist: then you can do that directly10:09
xnoxmlankhorst: we may need to see you every week from now on....11:53
mlankhorstlol12:03
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Shocksarnold: hi. now that I generated the debdiff, what do I do with it?20:53
xnoxShock: attach it to the bug report & subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug report.20:54
xnoxShock: that will trigger it to appear in the sponsorship queue, for review & upload.20:55
Shockxnox: thanks21:05

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