[06:02] <Kilos> hmm... jabber not found
[06:02] <Kilos> good morning all
[06:18] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[06:26] <Kilos> hows theblazehen today?
[06:35] <theblazehen> ok and you Kilos ?
[06:35] <Kilos> good ty, just cold
[06:36] <theblazehen> yeah. /me is in a room with 9 graphics cards, running at full speed, so not cold
[06:36] <theblazehen> Kinda hot actually
[06:36] <Kilos> lovely
[06:37] <Kilos> give me another link to a pic of that setup again please, but as llight as possible
[06:37] <theblazehen> kk. Gimme a sec
[06:38] <Kilos> no rush
[06:42] <theblazehen> Picture don't wanna upload
[06:42] <Kilos> np
[06:43] <Kilos> next month is fine too, i want to show ian
[06:43] <theblazehen> Ian?
[06:43] <Kilos> my son
[06:43] <theblazehen> ah
[06:43]  * theblazehen goes take a shit. back in a few minutes
[06:43] <Kilos> doesnt get here much, working his behind off
[06:44] <Kilos> Wolfeyes
[06:44] <Kilos> make sure the right one comes back
[06:44] <Kilos> hehe
[06:58] <theblazehen> back
[06:59] <Kilos> the right one came back?
[07:07] <theblazehen> ?
[07:16] <Kilos> lol teasing man
[07:16] <theblazehen> ah
[07:20] <Kilos> always safer to say going to the toilet
[07:21] <theblazehen> ya
[07:29] <Kilos> do peeps still call the toilet the jazz
[07:29] <Kilos> im way out of touch
[07:29] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[07:31] <Kilos> have you joined our mailing list?
[07:31] <Kilos> peeps like me often need linux help there
[07:34] <theblazehen> Kilos: yep
[07:34] <theblazehen> well some people
[07:34] <Kilos> yay
[07:34] <theblazehen> Actually just my grandpa that I know of
[07:34] <Kilos> hows the studies going
[07:35] <Kilos> hahaha is he old
[07:35] <theblazehen> Going ok, going to regionals for science expo
[07:35] <theblazehen> ya he is kinda
[07:35] <Kilos> rofl what does that mean
[07:35] <theblazehen> Got presentation to 10 judges and 30 parents on wednesday :/
[07:35] <theblazehen> Taking project to provincial level science expo
[07:35] <Kilos> when you 18 or less even 40 is old kinda
[07:36] <theblazehen> ah. 50's
[07:36] <Kilos> that sounds good, give it your all hey and good luck
[07:36] <theblazehen> yeah, thanks :)
[07:37]  * theblazehen has a windows VM going again :(
[07:37] <kbmonkey> morning
[07:37] <theblazehen> Had to download 8.1 overnight
[07:37] <theblazehen> hey kbmonkey 
[07:37] <kbmonkey> hi theblazehen and Kilos 
[07:38] <Kilos> hi kdim in deep man
[07:38] <Kilos> oh my
[07:38] <Kilos> kbmonkey, 
[07:38] <theblazehen> Gotta keep presentation under 5 minutes :/
[07:38] <theblazehen> When I presented to class it took 30 minutes :D
[07:38] <Kilos> there was an earthquake while i was down deep
[07:39] <kbmonkey> oh dear!
[07:39] <Kilos> oh my theblazehen how you gonna zip it so much
[07:39] <theblazehen> Take out lots of info :(
[07:39] <Kilos> all my well market paths are gone
[07:39] <theblazehen> Presentation WAS 21 slides
[07:40] <kbmonkey> hey that is pretty cool about the science expo! congrats :)
[07:41] <kbmonkey> what is your presentation on if I can ask, theblazehen ?
[07:41] <Kilos> and no torches and dug crooked and then straight up and managed to make some torches, then built under me to go where i had dug up and it built too fast so i kinda squeezed in somewhere with nothing working
[07:41] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: Thanks :) Using cryptocurrencies to pay for routing in mesh networks
[07:42] <kbmonkey> In my day we never had computers in expos :(
[07:42] <Kilos> theblazehen, is our crypto currency king
[07:42] <kbmonkey> I would never have thunk your topic could extend to PC technology, but I guess it is science! :D
[07:42] <theblazehen> hehe yeah :)
[07:42] <kbmonkey> that is amazing
[07:43] <theblazehen> Once I have it cleaned up I'll post a pdf of the slides for review?
[07:43] <Kilos> lol thats so funny to hear such a youngster say in my day
[07:43] <kbmonkey> what do you require the windows OS for theblazehen ?
[07:44] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: Pwerpoint...
[07:44] <theblazehen> Powerpoint*
[07:44] <kbmonkey> I'd love to see your presentation. I am very interested in cryptography
[07:44] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: Sure. Wanna see the long version so long?
[07:44] <kbmonkey> can I view it if I do not have opwerpoint?
[07:45] <kbmonkey> Powerpoint*
[07:45] <theblazehen> yeah, I'll just save as pdf
[07:45] <Kilos> even i want it please as soon as i got more data
[07:45] <kbmonkey> oh yes silly me. cool! 
[07:46] <Kilos> kbmonkey, work out how to use less data with the game, i use 97m yesterday
[07:46] <kbmonkey> sjoe
[07:46] <kbmonkey> take it slow 
[07:46] <Kilos> dunno if thats just the game or using browser to see how to make things all the time
[07:46] <kbmonkey> I think it uses more if you explore more. loads more terrain.
[07:46] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/scienceexpopresentation_1
[07:46] <Kilos> aha
[07:47] <theblazehen> Kilos: Only a few KB
[07:47] <Kilos> theblazehen, size?
[07:47] <Kilos> cool
[07:47]  * theblazehen gets more coffee
[07:47] <Kilos> where is the download button
[07:48] <kbmonkey> ^ what Kilos said xD
[07:49] <theblazehen> http://www.filedropper.com/scienceexpopresentation_1 *
[07:49] <theblazehen> sorry
[07:49] <Kilos> kbmonkey, so please tell me when you have time to dig me out
[07:49] <Kilos> then ill go there so you can find me
[07:50] <Kilos> eish now its by another window 
[07:51] <Kilos> WS02
[07:51] <theblazehen> Kilos: ?
[07:51] <Kilos> http://wso2.com/products/identity-server/?gclid=CNOKjb6JxL4CFcbKtAodDjYABg
[07:51] <Kilos> i ticked download and it went there
[07:52] <Kilos> no good i download the binary
[07:52] <kbmonkey> um no kilos I think you got misled by a pop ad xD
[07:53] <kbmonkey> adblock stopped mine, downloaded pdf fine
[07:53] <Kilos> oh
[07:53] <kbmonkey> theblazehen, you should look at spiderOak
[07:54] <Kilos> cool ty got it
[07:54] <Kilos> i hate the net and all the sneaked in stuff that mislead the uneducated
[07:55] <kbmonkey> that is what happens when you let business men onto the net Kilos 
[07:55] <kbmonkey> if it were just us geeks you would never have popups, ads or even a teeny-bopper video
[07:56] <theblazehen> ty kbmonkey 
[07:56] <kbmonkey> https://spideroak.com/
[07:56] <theblazehen> got it
[07:57] <theblazehen> ah yes. I'm gonna set up owncloud so..
[07:57] <kbmonkey> cool
[07:57] <Kilos> whats that link for kbmonkey 
[07:58] <theblazehen> Kilos: file storage
[07:59] <Kilos> ah
[07:59] <Kilos> ty
[07:59] <Kilos> i gotta scrape till month end
[07:59] <kbmonkey> like dropbox with client-side encryption
[07:59] <kbmonkey> i.i. data on server is stored encrypted without knowledge of your key
[08:00] <Kilos> ah 
[08:00] <Kilos> i only dropbox stuff anyone can see and use
[08:01] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: Heard of maidsafe and storj ?
[08:02] <kbmonkey> not theblazehen 
[08:04] <theblazehen> wPretty intersting, I'd recommend checking them out
[08:04] <kbmonkey> thanks :)
[08:05] <theblazehen> FML.. Ctrl-w doesn't delete words in IE :(
[08:07] <Kilos> whew ie always sucked
[08:07] <kbmonkey> Kilos, superfly I found out minetest has jungle biomes and abaondoned mines built-in, but are disabled by default for new maps. I found this great fishing mod, but it relies on jungles for the cotton seeds to make string :(
[08:07] <kbmonkey> Kilos, youwould love the mines, it makes tunnels for you to discover, some with treasure. lol.
[08:08] <Kilos> i actually got an email few weeks or month back saying ms anounced that ie has had a serious security flaw in it since xp
[08:09] <Kilos> lol
[08:09] <Kilos> we gotta ask the fly to addon these things
[08:09] <Kilos> and the tar roads
[08:09] <Kilos> hey kbmonkey didnt you see the earth quake last night
[08:10] <theblazehen> yeah, but have to use IE to download firefox...
[08:10] <Kilos> moved everything up and down about same as jumping 2 blocks and lasted maybe 30 secs
[08:16] <Kilos> oh kbmonkey you enable these things yourself, not the server boss?
[08:19] <kbmonkey> on single games kilos
[08:25] <Kilos> cool
[08:25] <Kilos> when i get there ill ask you how ok?
[08:25] <Kilos> im too worried about being locked in atm
[08:26] <Kilos> wore out a mese pick and three steel picks trying to get out
[08:27] <Kilos> now no more mese. so wanna try go down the ladders from the top and see where things broke
[08:27] <Kilos> also the lava level rose
[08:28] <Kilos> no wonder miners fear cave ins and quakes. was bad enough from this end even
[08:29] <kbmonkey> no I did not notice any earth quake
[08:29] <kbmonkey> are you stuck and seeing black?
[08:32] <Kilos> yip i think i built under me till i nearly got squashed on the next blocks above
[08:32] <Kilos> im not there now yet, you gotta tell me when you can come down
[08:33] <Kilos> i have ladders so you can come straight down 2 blocks wide
[08:34] <Kilos> as things stand i wont even be able to recover bones if i die there
[08:34] <Kilos> i think i mined in the dark for about 30 mins
[08:34] <kbmonkey> gravel is loose, it falls down. perhaps some gravel fell on your head and that is why you cant see anything
[08:34] <kbmonkey> put a torch up?
[08:35] <Kilos> cant do anything 
[08:35] <kbmonkey> I go make coffee...
[08:35] <Kilos> k i have here
[08:35] <kbmonkey> then I come find you
[08:35] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:35]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:36] <Kilos> lemme know so i go online ok kbmonkey 
[08:37] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[08:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:40] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee asseblief
[08:40] <Maaz> kbmonkey: What?
[08:40] <kbmonkey> lol
[08:40] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee on
[08:40]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:40] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:40] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:40] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you ready?
[08:42] <kbmonkey> yup I am grabbing my tools
[08:44] <Kilos> hmm... i can see again but still underground with no picks
[08:44] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kbmonkey!
[08:46] <kbmonkey> Maaz, thanks!
[08:46] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Okay :-)
[08:46] <kbmonkey> Kilos, I also found a compass mod. it points to location (0,0,0) world center.
[08:46] <kbmonkey> but if you have the bed mod it points to the last bed you slept in
[08:47] <Kilos> lol
[08:47] <Kilos> i need them things
[08:54] <theblazehen> Down to 16 slides on presentation!
[08:54] <theblazehen> :(
[08:55] <theblazehen>  ~  echo "16/5" | bc
[08:55] <theblazehen> 3
[08:55] <theblazehen> 3 slides per minute.. I can deal with that
[08:55] <Private_User> good morning all
[08:56] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[08:56] <Private_User> hey Kilos
[08:56] <theblazehen> Hi Private_User 
[08:57] <Private_User> hey theblazehen
[09:11] <gremble> hey Kilos I havent joined any mailing lists, not even sure how to go about it :P
[09:12] <Kilos> MList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ
[09:14] <gremble> Subscribed 
[09:26] <mazal> Morning everyone
[09:26] <mazal> Oom Kilos hier ?
[09:26] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[09:27] <mazal> Lo oom , net so bietjie terugvoer
[09:27] <mazal> Ek het vanmore weer probeer connect met Win en toe werk hy reg
[09:27] <mazal> Lyk my die probleem was met my inet noudie aand wat nie die graphics kon dl nie
[09:31] <Kilos> ai!
[09:31] <Kilos> wel solank dit van jou kant af is is als herstel baar
[09:33] <mazal> Vandag het hy sharp gewerk. Gisteraand toe sien ek my downloads loop maar teen 20k , in plaas van 400k. Toe kom ek agter dis my ISP wat my so bad shape. Toe kanseleer ek uncapped en gaan terug capped toe. Toe is my DL spoed reg en minetest ook sommer reg
[09:37] <gremble> mazal, watter ISP gebruik jy?
[09:38] <mazal> Web africa , horrible uncapped. Sal dit nooit weer gebruik nie. Lyn werk maar teen 5% spoed
[09:39] <Kilos> bly jy het dit reg gekry mazal 
[09:39] <gremble> Uncapped by meeste is n pyn.  Afrihost het vir ons goeie lyn gehad onder 50GB capped, maar hulle betalings regulasies is onvergewend. So nou sukkel ek maar met mweb uncapped haha
[09:40] <Kilos> my 8ta is lekker met als maar net die prys is nie reg vir my nie. sal like om 5g te kry vir R150
[09:41] <Kilos> die uncapped goed is als te duur vir my
[09:41] <mazal> uncapped is useless oom , jy mis niks
[09:43] <Kilos> sal bly wees met 5g n maand
[09:44] <Kilos> daai game vreet 100m n dag
[09:45] <theblazehen> Kilos: For a fun game that doesn't use internet check out nethack or dwarf fortress
[09:45] <theblazehen> Bit of a learning curve though
[09:46] <Kilos> haha for me everything is a learning curve but i love minetest especially when i need help getting outa holes
[09:47] <Kilos> i just gotta find a way to download the tutorial and how to pages so i dont need to run browser as well
[09:47] <theblazehen> wget -r --level=3
[09:47] <Kilos> i can remember all the recipes so haveto keep referencing there
[09:49] <mazal> Print hulle na pdf toe oom
[09:49] <Kilos> ek moet leer hoe
[09:49] <mazal> Is wat ek altyd doen met manuals. 
[09:49] <Kilos> haha
[09:49] <mazal> Elke een wat jy nodig het , terwyl hy oop is , kies print , print to file , gee naam en waar hy moet save en click print
[09:49] <mazal> Baie maklik
[09:50] <Kilos> dankie
[09:50] <mazal> Is die ding wat ek die meeste mis as ek by die huis is , win kan dit nie doen nie
[09:51] <Kilos> lol
[10:07] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[10:34] <charl_> good morning
[10:34] <charl_> hi psychicist, Kilos, maz
[10:34] <charl_> oh he's gone :)
[10:34] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[10:34] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[10:34]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[10:34] <psychicist> hi charl_ 
[10:34] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[10:35] <charl_> how's it going?
[10:35] <psychicist> we are here and not here at the same time :)
[10:35] <psychicist> I'm doing well, thanks
[10:35] <Kilos> lol
[10:35] <psychicist> relaxing a bit at home
[10:35] <Kilos> cool
[10:35] <psychicist> and you?
[10:35] <psychicist> yeah
[10:35] <Kilos> relaxing a bit at home
[10:35] <Kilos> haha
[10:35] <psychicist> haha
[10:35] <psychicist> I need to do some household chores before I won't have time again
[10:36] <Kilos> np
[10:36] <psychicist> because next week and the week after I will be travelling again
[10:36] <charl_> yeah i will be traveling to leiden tomorrow for japanmarkt
[10:36] <psychicist> oh, I just mean that that's the reason why I'm staying at home this weekend
[10:36] <charl_> i also need to sort my apartment out
[10:36] <psychicist> that's nice, you don't have things like that here in poland
[10:37] <charl_> i am looking forward
[10:37] <charl_> also to traveling
[10:37] <charl_> i have been stuck here where i live now for too long :)
[10:37] <psychicist> :D
[10:38] <psychicist> I've been travelling all the time ever since I arrived in Poland
[10:38] <psychicist> it's refreshing in a way that everything is so cheap over here
[10:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[10:41] <theblazehen> hey charl_ 
[10:42] <charl_> i bought a bunch of tickets now for 13 euro each, which for NL terms is quite cheap
[10:42] <charl_> can travel anywhere in the country with those
[10:42] <charl_> hi theblazehen 
[10:42] <charl_> i want to use this summer to go to germany too
[10:42] <psychicist> yeah
[10:42] <charl_> in germany the tickets are also really cheap
[10:42] <psychicist> I can go to germany from here, but just the eastern part
[10:43] <psychicist> unless I decide to fly, but I usually lack the time for such trips
[10:43] <charl_> yeah
[10:43] <charl_> i also usually don't travel too far away
[10:44] <charl_> go in the morning and come back in the evening type of thing, sleep in my own bed
[10:44] <charl_> otherwise it's the hassle (and cost) of booking hotels etc too
[10:44] <charl_> although i find that hotels in germany are generally very decently priced
[10:44] <psychicist> I made a trip to Norway recently, which was quite fun
[10:44] <charl_> unless you plan on going to munich during oktoberfest of course :)
[10:44] <psychicist> :D
[10:45] <charl_> i heard good things about norway, except that you must not speak german there :)
[10:45] <psychicist> I may not have a contract by that time, so who knows :)
[10:45] <charl_> apparently they have "thing" with the germans
[10:45] <psychicist> I am actually learning norwegian and dutch is pretty close of course
[10:45] <charl_> i always thought the scandinavian languages are somewhat strange but norwegian indeed is not so strange
[10:46] <charl_> *by strange i mean different
[10:47] <theblazehen> When your X server randomly crashes...
[10:47] <psychicist> I was in denmark two years ago, the written version of words resembled dutch quite a bit but the spoken version not really
[10:55] <charl_> lol
[10:56] <charl_> interesting that
[11:43] <Kilos> ohi superfly tell me please i see in synaptic there are a few more packages like mod-moreores and mod-moreblock is that for the server or will it change things here too?
[11:44] <Kilos> and mod=pipeworks
[11:44] <Kilos> mod-pipeworks
[12:13] <superfly> Kilos: not on your machine
[12:13] <superfly> but I can install them
[12:13] <superfly> I'll need to restart the server though
[12:22] <Kilos> is there anything else on the server that will be disturbed by a reboot?can you tell me what you are running there as the server?
[12:23] <Kilos> i am thinking of installing server here again and then we all can play via wifi i think otherwise ill have to get eth cabling made
[12:24] <Kilos> oh superfly and did you see the earthquake there last night
[12:24] <superfly> Kilos: you said so
[12:24] <Kilos> i nearly died next to the lava
[12:24] <superfly> I didn't notice it though
[12:24] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:07] <Kilos> superfly, is there a way to take tools from the game im playing singleplayer to your side
[13:07] <Kilos> i got lotsa mese here hehe
[13:08] <superfly> Kilos: no
[13:08] <Kilos> aw
[16:05] <Kilos> ai! power went again. some drunk hit a pole or something
[16:48] <kbmonkey> good evening
[16:49] <kbmonkey> eish Kilos how is your power situation
[16:49] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[16:49] <Kilos> back again ty
[16:49] <kbmonkey> yes back again and guess what I am doing lol
[16:49] <Kilos> you wanna come build long drops
[16:49] <Kilos> hehe
[16:49] <kbmonkey> I played the fishing mod it is actually really nice
[16:50] <Kilos> cool the fly said he can install the extras for us but then he gotta reboot server
[16:51] <Kilos> work out how one can get the game more data thrifty online man
[16:51] <Kilos> whats the good of me knowing clever geeks and they cant do that
[16:52] <Kilos> i found what happened with the earthquake. washed away all the paths i built around corners so now im going through the rock rather
[16:52] <kbmonkey> reboot? did he not mean regenerate the map?
[16:53] <Kilos> he said reboot server
[16:53] <kbmonkey> ah yes restart the game service, not the OS
[16:53] <Kilos> but its all the same to me
[16:53] <Kilos> reboot is reboot
[16:54] <kbmonkey> you windows folk, pfft :P
[16:54]  * kbmonkey winks
[16:54] <Kilos> oh i found out more, the major mese dposits are from level 256 and down hehe
[16:54] <kbmonkey> aaah clever
[16:54] <kbmonkey> you should try stay in one place to see if data usage is teh same
[16:54] <Kilos> the forst lots are at level 64
[16:55] <kbmonkey> oh let me install that tool
[16:55] <kbmonkey> vnstat
[16:55] <Kilos> no man i wanna see where the good stuff is and finish my mining career then go make beds
[16:55] <kbmonkey> lolol
[16:55] <Kilos> vnstat says i used more than i actually did
[16:56] <kbmonkey> no it reports the data flow between your pc and modem. not between the modem and your provider. so technically it is accurate, but not ideal
[16:57] <kbmonkey> I am more interested in the average speed, and the difference between reports
[16:57] <kbmonkey> simply: when do I use more?
[16:57] <Kilos> slow methinks
[16:57] <Kilos> wait i fetch
[16:57] <Kilos> not much info there
[16:58] <Kilos>  yesterday    173.50 MiB |  107.79 MiB |  281.29 MiB |   26.67 kbit/s
[16:58] <kbmonkey> you use iftop that is good too
[16:58] <Kilos>          today     40.17 MiB |   41.99 MiB |   82.16 MiB |    9.87 kbit/s
[16:59] <Kilos> i like iftop first thing i start after booting
[17:02] <kbmonkey> good idea!
[17:03] <kbmonkey> going straight down is fast so I carry minimal things in case I fall.
[17:55] <Kilos> superfly, did you build that long bridge?
[17:55] <Kilos> road thing
[18:07] <superfly> Kilos: yes
[18:07] <superfly> they connect all the towers together
[18:07] <Kilos> ty very much ill pay you in mese
[18:08] <Kilos> wonderful
[18:08] <Kilos> you the man
[18:09] <superfly> I died... the lava got me
[18:10] <superfly> I was trying to hold back the lava in one of the caverns Kilos built, but ended up making it almost flood the entire room. I had to go back down and block the opening off completely
[18:11] <Kilos> oops sorry
[18:11] <Kilos> i didnt go near the lava today i went above it
[18:12] <Kilos> underground funny things happen like my earthquake last night
[18:15] <kbmonkey> ouch lava sounds hot. I want to see!
[18:20] <kbmonkey> superfly, this is the one I was trying out. I dont know what do you think. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6480
[18:20] <kbmonkey> oh hello gremble 
[18:42] <gremble> Hello kbmonkey 
[19:21] <captine> eve all
[21:00] <Kilos> hi capnight all i go crash
[21:00] <Kilos> ai!