[00:00] <mcohen> hi, how do I enable sftp connections to a new Ubuntu 14.04 box?  I installed openssh-server and ssh connections work fine, but not sftp
[00:00] <ikonia> how does sftp fail ?
[00:00] <speaker1234> ikonia: this card explicitly excludes jbod
[00:00] <ikonia> speaker1234: what make/model is it ?
[00:00] <mcohen> host does not exist
[00:00] <ikonia> mcohen: sounds like name resolution is failing
[00:01] <speaker1234> 9750
[00:01] <mcohen> I'm using the same name as I'm using on my ssh connections
[00:01] <daftykins> speaker1234: it didn't seem like you checked the controller setup for the options, plus your link wasn't LSI's release notes on the latest codeset for the model ?
[00:01] <daftykins> mcohen: try an IP instead? doesn't make sense to do one and not the other
[00:02] <ikonia> speaker1234: looks like jbod support is an option on that card
[00:02] <speaker1234> ikonia: where?  The closest I found was creating single disc raid arrays
[00:03] <daftykins> ...
[00:03] <ikonia> speaker1234: it's listed on the lsi site as jbod support
[00:03] <daftykins> speaker1234: so set one as single disk and see if it shows up?
[00:03] <mcohen> ikonia: IP address works fine for both, and the name works for ssh but not sftp
[00:04] <speaker1234> when I look on the spec sheet, jbod is not mentioned
[00:04] <speaker1234> http://www.lsi.com/downloads/Public/3ware/3ware%20Common%20Files/3ware_SAS9750-4i_PB_072610.pdf
[00:04] <ikonia> mcohen: it says on the left "single disk"
[00:04] <ikonia> moonk1: oops
[00:05]  * daftykins buys a new keyboard for ikonia
[00:05] <speaker1234> ok back
[00:05] <speaker1234> what did I miss
[00:06] <ikonia> speaker1234: on the left of the page you've linked to it says "single disk"
[00:06] <speaker1234> right. is that susposted to be jbod?
[00:06] <mcohen> ikonia: come again?
[00:06] <ikonia> speaker1234: that is jbod
[00:07] <ikonia> speaker1234: have you read the single disk description futher down the page ?
[00:07] <speaker1234> bfh.
[00:07] <ikonia> mcohen: sorry, that was meant for someone else
[00:07] <ikonia> speaker1234: bfh ?
[00:07] <mcohen> right
[00:07] <speaker1234> ikonia: blody fucking hell
[00:08] <ikonia> speaker1234: there is zero need for that language
[00:08] <speaker1234> expression of frustration
[00:08] <ikonia> speaker1234: it is not welcome in this channel
[00:08] <speaker1234> which is why I said bfh
[00:08] <ikonia> speaker1234:.....that means nothing and just adds confusion
[00:09] <speaker1234> fine Let's just let it go and move on
[00:10] <nith1210> mcohen: what is the syntax you're trying to use with sftp?
[00:10] <mcohen> using winscp, so no syntax
[00:11] <speaker1234> ikonia: Okay, the page I sent you effectively has zero content on single disks. I'm going to try it because it's better than giving up.  I may scan for a manual later
[00:12] <ikonia> speaker1234: it days reference the single disk functionality
[00:12] <ikonia> speaker1234: iyriygi
[00:12] <ikonia> good luck with it
[00:12] <speaker1234> I shold upgrade the bios.  it looks like it is not handling 4tb drives right either
[00:12] <speaker1234> best way to do that is?
[00:13] <ikonia> the bios will not change 4tb drives
[00:13] <daftykins> ikonia: yes it does
[00:13] <ikonia> its most likley a limitation of the chipset
[00:13] <daftykins> the 9000 series need an update
[00:13] <ikonia> ahh perfect
[00:13] <daftykins> i own a few myself
[00:13] <daftykins> well, own one, administer a few :D
[00:14] <daftykins> speaker1234: you're now firmly in LSI/3ware support territory, their documentation will tell you how to update
[00:14] <nbezzala> I installed unbutu 14.04 and it worked well for 2 days.
[00:14] <nbezzala> Then I rebooted, and now, after login, I only see a blank screen
[00:15] <ikonia> daftykins: do all 9000's support the 4TB after bios updates or is it just certain revisions ?
[00:15] <nbezzala> there is no start button or any other icons
[00:15] <speaker1234> I'm not impressed by a LSI support. I called for support on this card once before and they told me it this card was not supported beyond a certain release of OS
[00:15] <speaker1234> If you wanted support with current OSes, you needed to purchase a more modern card
[00:15] <ikonia> speaker1234: that's not unreasonable
[00:15] <daftykins> ikonia: i think some got abandoned after the LSI acquisition, or have true limitations as you say
[00:15] <ikonia> speaker1234: checking the support status of the card is part of the buyers job
[00:16] <Beldar> nbezzala, Are you using a proprietary graphic driver?
[00:16] <ikonia> daftykins: I'll need more homework then thank you, I thought I had an easy option then
[00:16] <speaker1234> http://www.lsi.com/downloads/Public/SATA/SATA%20Common%20Files/10.2.2.1_Release_Notes.pdf
[00:16] <daftykins> speaker1234: sounds like life
[00:16] <daftykins> ikonia: np :)
[00:16] <nbezzala> I don't know, but it worked properly for 2 days. And it works fine when I boot from CD
[00:16] <speaker1234> Right. The company they work for does high-speed video storage units. LSI has yet to produce a raid card that approaches the performance of this one
[00:17] <johnny771> http://vividsx.com/brazzers-sexy-yoga-with-mia-malkova/
[00:17] <Beldar> !nomodeset | nbezzala low graphic boot
[00:18] <Beldar> nbezzala, This may get you to the desktop to check the additional drivers, you want to know the graphic drive info, just for these occasions
[00:18] <speaker1234> Anyway, my experience with LSI has convinced me that whenever you can, you should just go with software raid on a jbod
[00:18] <ikonia> speaker1234: then you are lacking experience
[00:19] <daftykins> speaker1234: we've told you the answer to configuring it and we've told you to update the BIOS, the full documentation is available to you. comments on hardware are off topic i'm afraid :)
[00:19] <Beldar> nbezzala, Notice we talk to each other prefacing with nicks.
[00:19] <daftykins> you have what you need, make it so!
[00:20] <nbezzala> Beldar: Yes, I see
[00:20] <speaker1234> thanks for your help daftykins
[00:20] <Beldar> ;)
[00:20] <speaker1234> I'm in the process of getting the iso image
[00:21] <daftykins> sounds like a plan
[00:21] <MJBrune> hello I need to figure out what package includes copyfile.h
[00:21] <MJBrune> is there a command I can run with apt to figure this out?
[00:21] <nbezzala> Beldar: I had windows vista earlier, but I am no longer able to login to it. Grub only allows me to use ubuntu. I tried the boot-repair and did the default repair but that didn't help. What do I try next?
[00:22] <daftykins> MJBrune: apt-file i think, but it has to download a fair cache first
[00:22] <daftykins> !find copyfile.h
[00:23] <MJBrune> there isn't a generic developer header package?
[00:23] <daftykins> probably, just sharing what i know! :) which is very little
[00:24] <MJBrune> oh I just meant from the !find command you did
[00:25] <nbezzala> Beldar: so, I need to edit the file /etc/default/grub and modify the line with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and add nomodeset to it
[00:25] <MJBrune> oh none of those actually have copyfile.h
[00:25] <MJBrune> they have copyfile.html
[00:25] <MJBrune> I need the header file :/
[00:27] <trndr> MJBrune, are you sure copyfile exists under linux? I can only find Mac OS and Windows implementations.
[00:29] <Bashing-om> nbezzala: Another alternate -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 .How to set NOMODESET and other kernel boot options in grub2 ...
[00:31] <nbezzala> Is unity supposed to be installed in 14.04?
[00:31] <MJBrune> trndr: it should
[00:32] <nbezzala> I have unity-manythings but not unity itself
[00:32] <MJBrune> `http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10195343/copy-a-file-in-an-sane-safe-and-efficient-way
[00:32] <MJBrune> There is always the C libraries for interacting with file system:
[00:32] <MJBrune> #include <copyfile.h>
[00:32] <trndr> MJBrune note the comment
[00:32] <MJBrune> oh missed that
[00:32] <nbezzala> thanks Bashing-om
[00:32] <MJBrune> that should be edited :P
[00:33] <Bashing-om> nbezzala: Np; standing by as ya have a need.
[00:34] <nbezzala> Bashing-om: if it works from live CD, and if it worked for 2 days, do you think it is a nomodeset problem?
[00:36] <Bashing-om> nbezzala: Noipe, most likely a driver problem ( update broke the proprietary graphics driver) .. nomodeset parameter is but to allow you to boot to the desk top, and fix the driver situation.
[00:36] <Bashing-om> *noipe/nope
[00:37] <usr101> hi, i got xmbcbuntu AMD64 running but it's using the Nvidia Xserver. I want to install fglrx since I got an amd card. how do I go about installing fglrx?
[00:38] <nbezzala> Bashing-om: will it work if I take this DVD and reinstall the version of ubuntu which is already on the DVD?
[00:39] <nbezzala> Bashing-om: how do I fix the driver problem please?
[00:40] <daftykins> usr101: there's no such thing as an 'nvidia xserver'
[00:40] <Beldar> nbezzala, Sorry for the delay, you would add nomodeset at grub to test, this is just a start on looking at what's up not a fix, the link tells you how.
[00:42] <Bashing-om> nbezzala: Not the way it workie, in this instance, with "nomodeset" parameter as a boot parameter, you should be able to boot to the desk top, and once to the desk top - depending on how you installed  the graphics driver - Additional Drivers utility to install the recomended graphics driver.// so how did you install the driver that is presently installed ?
[00:42] <usr101> daftykins, oh, hmm, i thought fglfrx was the AMD driver. So, do I need to install fglrx?
[00:42] <daftykins> usr101: it is. what made you think you were running something nvidia?
[00:43] <nbezzala> Bashing-om: I just installed the version 14.04 of ubuntu. I did not do an upgrade. I installed it from the DVD which I am using right now.
[00:43] <usr101> saw nvidia xserver in the system tools
[00:43] <nbezzala> Bashing-om: I did do an upgrade, and that is probably how I got the problem.
[00:43] <Beldar> Bashing-om, Thanks for helping them I'm do a little saxaphone repair, I can't multi-task, actually no one really does per research. ;)
[00:44] <Bashing-om> Beldar: You the man, I just try'n to lighten your load.
[00:44] <souliaq> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04, I'm install LXDE and KDE. Now LXDE is using Qt, how can I make LXDE back to GTK?
[00:44] <Beldar> ;) not everyone may agree, but thanks.
[00:44] <daftykins> usr101: yeah that doesn't sound too conclusive. can you use pastebin to share the output of "lspci" ?
[00:45] <daftykins> usr101: well. paste.ubuntu.com
[00:45] <speaker1234> ok, bios upgraded ok
[00:45]  * Beldar needs to get this fixed for Lisa Simpson
[00:46] <Bashing-om> nbezzala: Small steps, 1st see if you can boot to the desk top with the "nomodeset" parameter. If need be we can look with terminal commands as to what is.
[00:46] <daftykins> Beldar: oh nice, pics please! (of the sax)
[00:47] <nbezzala> Bashing-om: ok
[00:48] <usr101> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7507853/
[00:48] <speaker1234> daftykins: is it disk math magic why a 4tb drive looks like 3.6tb?
[00:49] <daftykins> speaker1234: hard disk manufacturers refer to a gigabyte as being 1,000,000,000 bytes but it's actually base-2
[00:49] <daftykins> !ati | usr101
[00:50] <speaker1234> that is what I thought
[00:50] <daftykins> usr101: ok follow the above link, you may be better off googling for amd driver 14.04 though
[00:50] <Beldar> daftykins, here is a youtube of the release horn, I used to be a pro jazz musician, getting back into it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltI9bBDyKA8
[00:50] <Beldar> that is not me
[00:50] <usr101> daftykins, thanks
[00:50] <ianorlin> !offtopic|Beldar
[00:50] <Beldar> ianorlin, Yeah yeah I have been here for years and a regular take it to someone who cares.
[00:51] <Beldar> ;)
[00:51] <daftykins> ianorlin: i've never seen you speak before.
[00:55] <PurpleHaze> Just seen my previous chat history. Sorry for being drunk.
[00:55] <LjL-Laplet> ianorlin: seems like the new rules here are that it's only offtopic if the person cares, and if you're known to speak here. sorry.
[00:56] <Guest33980> hello all
[00:56] <cpp_dude> silent here
[00:57] <recon-4599> yes it is
[00:57] <Bashing-om> Guest33980: Hi !, You have a support request ?
[00:57] <PurpleHaze> its probably active in Mints chan ....
[00:57] <Guest33980> Can somebody help me to configure some rebel synaptic touchpad?
[00:58] <PurpleHaze> so we can ask non support Ubuntu questions now?
[00:59] <cpp_dude> who knows
[00:59] <cpp_dude> later
[00:59] <Bashing-om> PurpleHaze: Humm, only if you are BonIfied .
[00:59] <PurpleHaze> i.e why do Debian/Ubuntu have to rename/replace/do if different than everyone else :)
[00:59] <PurpleHaze> it different*
[00:59] <rww> PurpleHaze: example?
[00:59] <Guest33980> Bashing-om, can you hopefully help me?
[00:59] <PurpleHaze> rww apache2 instead of httpd
[01:00] <rww> PurpleHaze: because there's more than one httpd so the name "httpd" is silly
[01:00] <rww> PurpleHaze: next example?
[01:00] <PurpleHaze> rww package names
[01:00] <rww> PurpleHaze: such as?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> Guest33980: I would if I caould, I have no experience with setting up a touchpad. Wait, others will see and respond.
[01:00] <Bashing-om> could*
[01:01] <PurpleHaze> rww kernels its usually just yum update kernel, on apt its usually something like linux-image
[01:01] <Guest33980> Bashing-om, thanks, lets see then
[01:01] <PurpleHaze> rww its easier to update a kernel for me on Gentoo than Ubuntu
[01:02] <rww> PurpleHaze: it's linux instead of kernel because Debian has multiple kernels (freebsd, hurd). The -image is there as compared to -headers, etc.
[01:02] <PurpleHaze> rww so does Gentoo
[01:02] <rww> PurpleHaze: "update" as in compile, or just update?
[01:02] <rww> PurpleHaze: and gentoo calls them gentoo-sources, not kernel
[01:03] <daftykins> aren't we getting a tad off-topic?
[01:03] <PurpleHaze> rww update in yellow gog package manager is the equivalent of install on apt/aptitude
[01:03] <PurpleHaze> rww but wanting to update
[01:03] <rww> PurpleHaze: That seems odd. Why would you use "update" to install a new package?
[01:03] <PurpleHaze> rww again why use install to also upgrade
[01:04] <rww> daftykins: weren't you just talking about saxophones?
[01:04] <rww> PurpleHaze: erm, we use upgrade to upgrade
[01:04] <PurpleHaze> rww thats how apt/dpkg/aptitude do it :)
[01:04] <daftykins> rww: exactly, but you should know better!
[01:04] <rww> PurpleHaze: aptitude also uses upgrade to upgrade
[01:04] <PurpleHaze> rww the Debian/Ubuntu package managers :)
[01:04] <rww> PurpleHaze: as does apt
[01:05] <rww> PurpleHaze: dpkg doesn't update from repositories because it has no concept of a repository
[01:05] <rww> (that's what APT is for)
[01:05] <PurpleHaze> rww yes system upgrade but not on .deb out of the repos
[01:05] <rww> PurpleHaze: sudo apt-get upgrade applies pending package upgrades. You don't use apt-get install for that, unless you want to upgrade only one package for some reason
[01:06] <PurpleHaze> rww infact its same with the repos if you try and upgrade an individual package
[01:06] <rww> PurpleHaze: ditto apt upgrade and aptitude upgrade
[01:06] <rww> PurpleHaze: yes, apt-get install installs the latest version (actually highest priority, but whatever) of a package if it is not already installed
[01:06] <rww> PurpleHaze: the equivalent of yum update is apt-get upgrade though, not install
[01:08] <PurpleHaze> rww my point was the differences though :)
[01:08] <ianorlin> it is also why when you try to install something you already have installed it says $package is already the latest version
[01:08] <cdrz> gotcha
[01:08] <PurpleHaze> rww Think i proved it
[01:08] <rww> PurpleHaze: Yes, different programs work differently. I am not sure why you think this is notable. pacman's equivalent is pacman -Syu.
[01:09] <xangua> !yum
[01:09] <rww> emerge's is complicated enough I had an alias for it, so I forget
[01:09] <rww> Package managers are going to be different between distro families; if they were all the same we wouldn't have as many distro families...
[01:10] <rww> s/an alias for it/EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS set/
[01:10] <PurpleHaze> rww but Arch, Gentoo Slackware loads of others oh yeah RedHat use pretty much the same structure (in /etc at least) Debian/Ubuntu dont include system-config-network like RH based do
[01:11] <PurpleHaze> rww as an example
[01:11] <rww> PurpleHaze: Arch and Redhat use systemd. As Debian and Ubuntu move to it, I would expect /etc to become much more similar. I've never seen system-config-network used outside of Redhat-derived distros, but maybe I just missed it.
[01:12] <rww> As for why Debian and Ubuntu didn't use systemd before now: Debian was concerned about portability, Ubuntu had upstart since before systemd existed and NIH syndrome prevented them from moving to the superior alternative for a while
[01:13] <PurpleHaze> rww This is before the sytemd v upstart days this goes back to when it was all system V init
[01:13] <rww> PurpleHaze: Okay. Pre-systemd, distros did not standardize on the contents of /etc much at all. If you were around back then, you'll remember that everyone was different, it wasn't just Debian-based vs. everyone else
[01:14] <rww> And in general "everyone else" is not the same thing as "Redhat"
[01:15] <PurpleHaze> rww I was around back then but a noob. I work in an enterprise Linux enviroment these days , since introducing Ubuntu Ive found it a real pain when working with RH based distros
[01:16] <PurpleHaze> rww I know it comes from Debian too
[01:16] <rww> Well yeah, using two different distro families is going to be a pain, regardless of the two families. Supporting Centos when one uses Redhat at home sucks. Supporting OS X's command line when one's used to GNU sucks. It's in the nature of unix-like OSes to have subtle difference to screw over administrators
[01:17] <rww> killall on Solaris kills every process. That's one of my favorite fun ones.
[01:17] <rww> which is why I tend to recommend to people to stick with what they're familiar with if they don't feel like doing a lot of reading
[01:17] <rww> if you're used to Ubuntu, using CentOS for server is going to suck. If you're used to Fedora, using Debian for server is going to suck.
[01:18] <PurpleHaze> rww pre systemd no I wasnt a noob, had a brain fart (too much weed). I started Linux before package managers . Dependency hell when compiling and that was software dont get me started on drivers
[01:18] <rww> If your company uses RHEL and wants you to learn Linux, using Debian at home is not going to help you.
[01:18] <rww> Anyways, I now have another person telling me to take it out of the support channel, so feel free to drop by #ubuntu-offtopic instead to continue.
[01:19] <PurpleHaze> rww Debian/Ubuntu is very good for desktops (IMO the best) Just not inm a server enviroment
[01:19] <rww> s/Debian/Arch/ in that last example, to get out of the Redhat vs. Debian false dichotomy
[01:19] <PurpleHaze> rww pwned
[01:20] <rww> PurpleHaze: Let's take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[01:20] <daftykins> oh, now the rules are restored.
[01:20] <PurpleHaze> rww do you want to carry on or is that an instruction?
[01:20] <rww> daftykins: 01:18:39 < rww> Anyways, I now have another person telling me to take it out of the support channel, so feel free to drop by #ubuntu-offtopic instead to continue.
[01:20] <rww> daftykins: so yes.
[01:20] <rww> PurpleHaze: I do.
[01:21] <rww> in a channel where people aren't going to complain about it.
[01:32] <xeno__> What does a sane person do to execute things like find and grep on an ftp site?
[01:32] <xeno__> I cannot get onto this site except with ftp, and I want to do find, and grep.
[01:33] <xeno__> From ubuntu or debian.
[01:35] <daftykins> look up FTP commands
[01:35] <jrib> xeno__: you could mount it or see if lftp can at least offer a nice way of doing find
[01:36] <matju> If I need to troubleshoot whether a disk "read error" and random filesystem damage are caused by the CPU, the motherboard or the hard-disk's own board, how would I do that ? Is there some kind of CPU stress-test tool that can detect damage ? (I've already done a hd surface test and a RAM test)
[01:38] <speaker1234> looking at disks by id
[01:39] <daftykins> do they come up from 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[01:39] <speaker1234> I have 2 id's.  one starting with scsi, the other by wwn.
[01:41] <speaker1234> which should I use
[01:41] <speaker1234> wwn or scsi?
[01:41] <diddledan> speaker1234, they both point to the same device
[01:42] <diddledan> speaker1234, if you `ls -al /dev/disk/by-id` it'll show you which sd* they point to
[01:43] <speaker1234> yes, I know
[01:43] <speaker1234> but is there a reason for why there are 2 lables
[01:43] <speaker1234> for each drive
[01:44] <mike802> http://mike802.blogspot.com/2014/05/staying-there.html
[01:49] <diddledan> speaker1234, afaict the wwn is an addressing scheme that attempts to unify addressing between the various other host buses that aren't ATA
[01:49] <diddledan> e.g. fibre channel
[01:49] <diddledan> speaker1234, so by coincidence when used on an ata bus you get the choice of the ata addressing scheme or the wwn
[01:54] <MJBrune> `/quit
[02:01] <speaker1234> diddledan: thaks.  I used the wwn form
[02:01] <speaker1234> I now have 2 rz2 arrays adding up to 43tb of storage
[02:01] <spythisbitch> how can i watch dvd's on Bodhi Linux
[02:02] <speaker1234> woot
[02:02] <nith1210> So I've got an interesting one; xrandr seems to load my monitor metadata late resulting in super-massive fonts and my theme fixing it self a minute or two after boot; anyone seen this before?
[02:03] <speaker1234> now I need to gparted my os ssd's tom ake room for zil and cache
[02:04] <daftykins> speaker1234: hey it was mostly me :(
[02:04] <daftykins> ;)
[02:05] <spythisbitch> listen can someone tell me how to watch movies on bodhi linux or tell me what chat room i susspose to goto
[02:06] <diddledan> spythisbitch, it's off topic in here considering bodhi isn't ubuntu, but you can probably find a video player in the software repo - try totem (gtk/gnome-based) of kaffeine (kde-based)
[02:06] <ki7mt> join  #bodhilinux
[02:06] <speaker1234> daftykins: uh, did I miss thanking you?
[02:07] <nith1210> !patience | spythisbitch
[02:07] <speaker1234> daftykins: yes, you were a hugehelp
[02:07] <daftykins> ;)
[02:10] <speaker1234> now I need to turn on some options
[02:10] <speaker1234> man, playing with zfs has been the most fun I've had on a long time
[02:11] <speaker1234> I am such a file system weenie
[02:13] <billy_> does anyone know any plugin for rhythmbox that will show what music im playing, similar to what spotify does
[02:13] <billy_> sory, on facebok
[02:13] <Guest40063> Can you please point me to the fix for the 14.04 unity freeze issue with nvidia graphics?  So far this has been the most unusable LTS release for me (I can't even login).
[02:14] <daftykins> 'freeze issue' ?
[02:14] <daftykins> speaker1234: this channel isn't for your ongoing commentary
[02:14] <Guest40063> daftykins, yes, unity freezes on boot
[02:15] <speaker1234> sorry, I thought you wanted to know what was hsppening.  won't make that mistake again
[02:15] <Guest40063> daftykins, and these fixes don't work: http://itsfoss.com/fix-unity-freezes-after-login-ubuntu-14-04/
[02:16] <daftykins> Guest40063: are you using nvidia's proprietary driver or nouveau?
[02:16] <Beldar> Guest40063, You sure it's not a black screen, not a freeze, freezing is a different state.
[02:16] <Guest40063> daftykins, nouveau were extremely slow, so I tried to install nvidia-current
[02:16] <Guest40063> Beldar, yes, I'm sure
[02:16] <nith1210> Guest40063: Which GFX card?
[02:17] <Guest40063> The unity greeter is visible, but it won't accept keyboard or mouse input.  Can't login.
[02:17] <Guest40063> nith1210, 9400
[02:17] <Beldar> cool, just the difference is imperative to separate, easiest check is a tty try Guest40063
[02:17] <nith1210> Guest40063: Also, when it won't accept keyboard or mouse, what happens when you hit CTRL+ALT+F1?
[02:17] <nith1210> Guest40063: Effectively what Beldar just said ;P
[02:18] <Guest40063> nith1210, nothing.  I have to try to hold shift key to boot to console
[02:18] <Beldar> Guest40063, getting to a tty and the shift to show the grub menu are not the same.
[02:19] <Guest40063> Beldar, I know.  If lightdm starts up, I cannot change to a tty
[02:20] <Guest40063> It would seem it's still not fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1283826
[02:21] <Beldar> Guest40063, Cool, so you have to do a ctrl-alt-prtsc REISUB to reboot? what have you done in this situation?
[02:21] <Guest40063> I hit the reset button or power cycle the machine
[02:22] <Beldar> !reisub | Guest40063 bad idea do this
[02:22] <Beldar> Guest40063, REISEO is a off not reboot as well.
[02:24] <Guest40063> I'll keep that in mind, but the fundamental issue is the major bug in lightdm, which I'm really surprised wasn't considered release-critical
[02:24] <Beldar> Guest40063, A true freeze probably would not allow this in some cases a hang will.
[02:24] <Beldar> comma after some
[02:25] <nith1210> Guest40063: Have you tried nvidia-current-updates?
[02:26] <Beldar> Guest40063, It is a bummer when this happens, things are not always fixed is all within a users wanted time frame, if the bug is related.
[02:27] <Guest40063> nith1210, I did previously.  I think that package has been updated since I last tried, but I've been unable to login to try it again
[02:27] <nith1210> Guest40063: Why not update from the recovery console?
[02:28] <Beldar> Guest40063, Have you tried a nomodeset boot, if it were me I would try the guest account and load like lubuntu to check another DE maybe.
[02:28] <nith1210> !tasksel
[02:28] <Guest40063> nith1210, Beldar:  thanks, good suggestions.  I'll go try a few things.
[02:29] <nith1210> Guest40063: If you run out of options, the xorg-edgers ppa also has higher versioned nvidia drivers, you might try them; I'd avoid unless you're on your last straw or comfortable on the terminal.
[02:30] <Guest40063> nith1210, thanks, I may try that.  I'm confortable with it.
[02:30] <nith1210> Guest40063: Also, if you do think lightdm is the problem exclusively, you could try using gdm instead.
[02:30] <nith1210> Guest40063: It'll still boot into a standard ubuntu session; so it only gets you past lightdm
[02:31] <Guest40063> nith1210, OK, thanks.
[02:32] <TaZeR> hey does ubuntu accept trouser snakes?
[02:32] <TaZeR> there kinda like backdoor trojans
[02:33] <speaker1234> What is a reasonable way to keep UID easing group IDs consistent across a set of machines that run in changeable locations. I.e. laptops, experimental servers moving between networks, and tradeshow equipment
[02:34] <Guest40063> nith1210, Wow, at the grub menu, I can select advanced options, and then select recovery mode, but once I get to the recovery menu, no keyboard input is accepted, so I can't arrow down from "resume" to select another option
[02:36] <Guest40063> It may be best for me to either reinstall, and trade nouveau slowness for the ability to login and avoid nvidia proprietary drivers, or wait until the first point release
[02:37] <nith1210> Guest40063: This may sound funny, but can you please try another keyboard?
[02:37] <Guest40063> nith1210, I could, but why would it work up until the recovery menu?
[02:37] <nith1210> Guest40063: the recovery menu doesn't use the nvidia drivers
[02:37] <nith1210> And someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
[02:38] <TaZeR> can someone answer my question i am serious
[02:38] <TaZeR> about the trouser snakes
[02:38] <TaZeR> its linux name for backdoor trojan?
[02:38] <Guest40063> nith1210, I'm saying the keyboard works up until that point, and upon every sucessive reboot,  Why would it stop working there?
[02:39] <xsspants> How do i alter the backlight control widget in Unity to point to /sys/class/backlight/radeon_bl0/brightness instead of whatever the default is, when the default fails to control backlight?
[02:39] <nith1210> Guest40063: Keyboard driver could be funny, but that doesn't explain the correlation to your graphics drivers
[02:40] <daftykins> Guest40063: just try an older nvidia driver maybe
[02:40] <nith1210> daftykins: His machine dies while loading the recovery console; Maybe a bad kernel module or something?
[02:41] <nith1210> *his/her
[02:41] <daftykins> oh didn't realise you'd found out some extras
[02:41] <daftykins> ok, that's a sign i should sleep :)
[02:41] <nith1210> extras?
[02:41] <daftykins> i hadn't heard that part earlier
[02:41] <daftykins> additional info, if you will.
[02:42] <nith1210> daftykins: Assuming bad kernel module, I don't know how to fix it outside of a livecd +  modprobe blacklist; reinstall might be easier for them
[02:43] <Guest40063> nith1210, sorry, had stepped downstairs to try a second keyboard.  Same result...
[02:43] <Hug0x> Eaí
[02:43] <TaZeR> does ubuntu support direct trouser snake injection or not?
[02:44] <Guest40063> nith1210, thanks for your patience and suggestions.  I may resort to a reinstall.  This is too strange.
[02:44] <TaZeR> should be along with biometrics
[02:44] <nith1210> Guest40063: Just out of curiosity, did you install any extra packages from anywhere else?
[02:44] <Guest40063> nith1210, no, not at all
[02:45] <nith1210> Guest40063: ok, I've never seen graphics card issues affect the recovery console which has me particularly puzzled.
[02:45] <Guest40063> It's a fresh install.  I had logged in for the first time, noticed the lagginess with nouveau, and decided the proprietary drivers were in order.
[02:45] <nith1210> Guest40063: Did you update first?
[02:46] <Guest40063> nith1210, I agree.  It makes little sense, since lightdm or xorg isn't loaded yet, so I don't see the correlation either
[02:46] <TaZeR> im a vampire slayer
[02:46] <nith1210> Guest40063: Here's a suggestion (out of my overtired head); Maybe the default kernel pre-update is not compatible with nvidia current?
[02:46] <TaZeR> im buffy
[02:47] <Guest40063> nith1210, maybe so.  Go get some rest, my friend. Thanks again!
[02:47] <Guest40063> Thank you too, Beldar and daftykins.
[02:47] <nith1210> Guest40063: good luck
[02:47] <Guest40063> I think I'll go too.  Take care!
[02:48] <Beldar> !ops | TaZeR
[02:48] <daftykins> good luck o/
[02:48] <TaZeR> !kb beldar ty
[02:48] <TaZeR> stfu no one asked u to speak bot
[02:48] <TaZeR> you will do as told
[02:48] <elky> TaZeR: stop that
[02:48] <TaZeR> you dare challenge me fool?
[02:48] <TaZeR> i am the master
[02:48] <daftykins> elky's on the case.
[02:48] <nith1210> Don't feed the troll.
[02:48] <qin> bhaha
[03:00] <heart_> Hello
[03:01] <nith1210> !ask | heart_
[03:01] <nith1210> heart_: and hi
[03:01] <jchaike> I have a quick question about Ubuntu on Mac -- is it better to choose the built in "Install side by side" or to install something like "reFit" or "ReFind"
[03:04] <jchaike> Does anyone here currently dual boot on their Mac?
[03:06] <heart_> can anyone help with Alcatel Telecom DynaMiTe Modem
[03:06] <heart_> ADSL 630-11
[03:06] <heart_> Zyxel
[03:07] <daftykins> what specifically?
[03:08] <heart_> ADSL Modem 630-11 Prestige
[03:09] <daftykins> help with what specifically?
[03:10] <heart_> i want to connect with it
[03:10] <daftykins> ok, if it's supported you should be able to use network manager to configure a connection
[03:10] <daftykins> does your ISP use PPPoE?
[03:10] <heart_> yes
[03:10] <heart_> no
[03:11] <heart_> It is USB
[03:11] <daftykins> PPPoA?
[03:11] <heart_> ye
[03:11] <heart_> it support pppoe i mean my isp but modem is usb
[03:13] <daftykins> heart_: yeah that'll still work
[03:14] <daftykins> hmm i found one link here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:14] <Deihmos_> where is the option for timeout ?
[03:15] <daftykins> here's an article - http://askubuntu.com/questions/149200/setting-up-a-pppoe-internet-connection-in-ubuntu-12-04
[03:15] <daftykins> heart_: and here's a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx-G-Sn6IhY
[03:15] <daftykins> Deihmos_: what kind of timeout? GRUB boot menu?
[03:16] <Deihmos_> display timeout
[03:16] <daftykins> you're being too vague :(
[03:17] <Deihmos_> display timeout. when the monitor turns off when idle
[03:17] <daftykins> oh power save
[03:17] <Deihmos_> i don't see the option to set the time
[03:17] <daftykins> double check screensaver and power save options in system settings
[03:18] <heart_> Thank u daftkins
[03:18] <jchaike> Anyone here currently dual booting their Linux with Mac?
[03:19] <daftykins> jchaike: ask the real question instead
[03:19] <jchaike> I know that I can install rEFIt or rEFInd on mac (i forget which is newer), but I know Ubuntu usually gives you the option to "install side by side with OS X". Which option is "safer"
[03:19] <Deihmos_> i am not seeing such an option
[03:20] <jchaike> ive had issues on an older mac upgrading OS X and it screws up my bootloader
[03:20] <jchaike> and im looking for a fairly permanent dual boot solution able to handle major OS updates from both sides without screwing up the bootloader
[03:24] <Beldar> jchaike, Your best just knowing the fixes, there is no magic except a clone
[03:25] <wiredmind> Multiple monitor layout does not persist after reboot, AMD Radeon HD 7800 card, ubuntu 14.04 fresh insstall
[03:25] <jchaike> Beldar what does Ubuntu install when choosing the install alongside OS X? GRUB?
[03:26] <Beldar> jchaike, Not sure with apple computers were it a msdos I could answer better. ;)
[03:27] <jchaike> Beldar thanks for the answer anyways -- what does it do on a windows dual boot? Grub loader?
[03:27] <Beldar> I asssume there is a efi partition, like the windows UEFI jchaike
[03:28] <jchaike> Is there a well populated OSX/Linux IRC channel anyone knows of?
[03:28] <Beldar> jchaike, IN a msdos it goes to the mbr, in a UEFI not exactly sure, it is a bit new here and I have not gotten a computer with this set up yet.
[03:29] <jchaike> ah okay, i got it. I think I'm going to just back everything up and hope for the best for the "Install Alongside" through the Ubuntu Installer
[03:29] <jchaike> thanks again Beldar
[03:29] <shajeen>  I got TP-Link( TL-WN721N) wifi adapter. it work great but, when i unplug system freeze. Also tried using Power Hub Same result. ?
[03:29] <Beldar> jchaike, My pleasure, your skills will cover your booty. ;)
[03:31] <wiredmind>  Need help to setup persistent multi-monitor layout
[03:32] <nurupo> that questions sounds trivial, but i couldn't find any solution to it: move all files (including hidden) from the current directory into its subdirectory without acessing any other directories like /tmp/ or ../
[03:32] <nurupo> `mv !(subdir) subdir` works, but it doesn't move dot-files
[03:36] <riz0n> Hey, what command do I need to issue to find out when an account was created on my system?
[03:37] <jazzninja> Hi :) I have a question about an LVM problem (inactive logical volume, PV thinks it’s missing)… anyone familiar?
[03:41] <Con> riz0n, how about you check the creation date of the home directory?
[03:42] <Con> #ls -ld /home
[03:42] <Con> this should show you creation date of all users
[03:50] <whoever> jazzninja: it is does exist whats the issue
[03:51] <jazzninja> whoever, You mean pvdisplay shows it? It wasn’t there at one stage, but adding it back didn’t seem to work. It thinks the
[03:51] <jazzninja> … thinks the PV is missing (I think).
[03:52] <whoever> jazzninja: why do you think something is wrong with lvm
[03:52] <jazzninja> whoever: because it doesn’t work! The drive does not show up.
[03:52] <digi0ps> Hey.... I am upgrading to 14.04 from 13.10. Its about to download all the packages about 750 MB but the problem is my internet is not stable right now. it keeps going on and off as they are doing some repairs. Is it safe to download upgrade now. Or if the internet disconnects suddenly will it be bad for the upgrade? Please help! :/
[03:53] <whoever> how big is the drive? is it logical or physical
[03:53] <jazzninja> Both disks in LVM are 2TB HDDs. I have 4 LVs on the first one and tried to extend one of these with the 2nd (new) disk.
[03:54] <whoever> digi0ps: i would say yes since all pkgs dowload prior to upgrade , but you might be better off using a 14.04 iso to upgrade
[03:54] <whoever> jazzninja: the disks should show up with out a prob
[03:55] <whoever> what do you get with fdisk -l
[03:55] <jazzninja> whoever: It would be nice if they did.
[03:55] <digi0ps> whoever: if i had the iso i should again install it via the LIVE method right?
[03:55] <whoever> digi0ps: one or the other take your pick
[03:55] <jazzninja> Did you see the link to the forum post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225874&p=13031813#post13031813 I’m happy to paste here, but is it OK to put so much output?
[03:55] <digi0ps> if the download stops in the middle will it cause any problem?
[03:56] <jazzninja> digiOps: No. It’s just a bother for you, but not a technical problem. Just download again.
[03:56] <digi0ps> jazzninja: okay . thanks :)
[03:57] <whoever> jazzninja: i just say the post but do you see them with fdisk -l
[03:57] <whoever> jazzninja: also do you see them in bios
[03:57] <jazzninja> whoever: Yes. fdisk -l shows all drives, as I would expect.
[03:57] <drmeister> I was using Ubuntu on VirtualBox on OS X 10.9 when all of a sudden in the terminal it said "Read only file system" - I rebooted, told it to try and fix the drives and now the window frame aspect ratio is stuck.  When I resize the width both the height and width change and appear to maintain a constant aspect ratio.
[03:58] <whoever> jazzninja: then you may just need to make an entry into fstab
[03:58] <jazzninja> whoever: OK, how? what for? for the LV?
[03:59] <whoever> jazzninja: so the disk will mount and show up
[03:59] <jazzninja> whoever: I have an entry for the LV (“/dev/mapper/vg-vgmovies /movies         ext4    defaults,noatime,nodiratime        0       2”)
[04:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I needs help
[04:00] <xeno__> There must be a command to access ftp sites without all this line by line degenerate interpreter balony.
[04:00] <jazzninja> If I comment it out, then the system boots without error message, but the drive doesn’t show.
[04:00] <holstein> drmeister: i have a feeling there may be more to "all of a sudden", but, just try reinstalling the guest additions, if you have the read only issue sorted out.. in the future, save a snapshot :)
[04:00] <holstein> GuyThatNeedsHelp: just ask
[04:00] <xeno__> Doesn't Ubuntu sport an ftp that can run configured commands like say scp?
[04:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I can't edit a .lua file it's "read only"
[04:01] <holstein> !scp | xeno__
[04:01] <xeno__> Something where I can do all my ftp stuff from the shell and never get into ftp shell drive me crazy mode?
[04:01] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> How would i be able to edit that file?
[04:01] <holstein> xeno__: i use scp via ssh
[04:01] <whoever> jazzninja: i think you would be better off using uuid just incase you move things around in your box you won't have to change the /dev
[04:01] <xeno__> Our client doesn't have ssh protocol.
[04:01] <holstein> xeno__: i like gigolo
[04:01] <xeno__> It only has ftp protocol.
[04:01] <drmeister> holstein: "All of a sudden" means when Ubuntu came back up the Virtual box window frame started maintaining a constant aspect ratio.
[04:01] <xeno__> I need something like that in ftp protocol
[04:01] <holstein> xeno__: you can use filezilla
[04:01] <whoever> xeno__: then you'll need to install it for them
[04:02] <xeno__> I will try gigolo and filezilla thank you.
[04:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HOW
[04:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> DO I EDIT .lua files
[04:02] <jazzninja> whoever: I have uuids in there for the non-LVM drives/partitions, but like that for the 4 LVs. What were you thinking I could put there that would make LVM see it properly?
[04:02] <whoever> GuyThatNeedsHelp: sudo vim filename
[04:03] <jazzninja> GuyThatNeedsHelp: lua files are just text. What do you usually use to edit text files?
[04:03] <whoever> jazzninja: lvm is for large volume support , most drives in use to day are "large volume"  so your good
[04:04] <xeno__> filezilla refuses to allow me to turn off passive mode, so it fails; worthless.
[04:04] <holstein> xeno__: works fine for folks i suggest it to.. whats the issue?
[04:04] <holstein> xeno__: try gigolo
[04:05] <holstein> !info gigolo
[04:05] <jazzninja> whoever: LVM is “logical volume manager”. Not for large volumes, but logical ones… so you can have multiple disks that look like one drive.
[04:05] <whoever> jazzninja: if you were hopping for the disk to show up in unity as a disk with a werid id  like a mount point, that doesn't always happen, and i just mount it by uuid
[04:06] <jazzninja> whoever: I think you must be thinking of regular disk mounting rather than LVM.
[04:06] <whoever> jazzninja: ok, but still it should work
[04:06] <whoever> jazzninja: ya i am
[04:06] <xeno__> gigolo doesn't work either.  Neither has the ability to turn off the passive mode I think.
[04:06] <holstein> xeno__: you think?
[04:06] <holstein> xeno__: try it, and see.. and ask a question if you have one
[04:06] <whoever> night all
[04:07] <jazzninja> whoever: thanks anyway though. I’m thinking if I can’t figure it out, I might try with another install/live CD and see if I can access the data (copy it)… night.
[04:07] <holstein> xeno__: http://mysupport.intersoftgroup.com/HCBase/print_view.aspx?ID=854
[04:08] <shajeen>  I got TP-Link( TL-WN721N) wifi adapter. it work great but, when i unplug raspberry freeze. Also tried using Power Hub Same result. ?
[04:09] <nestle19> my 256gb ssd drive has 9600 power on hours.. do you know how long these things are suppose to last ? like should i be replacing it or something? I dont want to wake up tomorrow and shits dead. its a crucial 256gb ssd
[04:10] <drmeister> holstein: Could you give me a little more info re: "save a snapshot"?    What sort of snapshot?
[04:10] <devslash> im setting up ubuntu server with a 2 TB drive. I plan on setting it up as a media server what would be a good partition scheme ?
[04:10] <holstein> nestle19: watch the language.. *all* drives fail
[04:10] <nestle19> lol sorry
[04:11] <nestle19> yeah i know they fail
[04:11] <nestle19> but im talking about ssd specifically
[04:11] <holstein> drmeister: in virtualbox, you can save snapshots of vm's.. you can save one *before* something bad happens, and just revert if something bad happens.. useing it as an easy backup
[04:11] <holstein> nestle19: sure.. *all* fail. ssd's.. spinning ones.. that one will fail
[04:11] <holstein> nestle19: try a hardware channel, or ask the manufacturer for details about the expected life.. and always backup, since any can fail anytime
[04:11] <rmmoul> has back blaze put up any stats on ssd drive failures?
[04:12] <drmeister> holstein: Thanks.
[04:12] <Beldar> rmmoul, I have seen research that shows a mean failure on spinning or ssd as the same, on the modern ssd's
[04:13] <Beldar> the faster failure is a myth as of now
[04:14] <rmmoul> beldar, that sounds about right for the new ones.
[04:14] <devslash> any suggestions ?
[04:15] <xeno__> Okay, let me try one more time please:  What I really want is something like scp that I can program in a shell that does ftp.  There MUST be something like that, right?
[04:15] <Beldar> rmmoul, A lot of investment to get them used worldwide and in hard uses, so they want them to work, yeah.
[04:15] <holstein> devslash: the default one should be fine, unless you have special needs..
[04:15] <holstein> !ftp | xeno__
[04:16] <rmmoul> devslash, also make the media it's own partition so that you aren't mixing the stuff with your linux install
[04:16] <xeno__> No.  It isn't.
[04:16] <holstein> xeno__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/12774/recommended-console-ftp-clients
[04:16] <holstein> xeno__: mc does ftp i read
[04:17] <rmmoul> beldar, agreed. I was skeptical about them for awhile, but I wouldn't hesitate to throw one in a new computer now
[04:20] <devslash> rmmoul, thats what I want to do but im not sure how to do it correctly
[04:21] <holstein> devslash: make a seperate partition, if you want..
[04:21] <devslash> which partition option do I choose ? guided ?
[04:21] <holstein> personally, unless its a seperate drive, you likely sone see any speed benifits, so, for you, i say, do the default
[04:22] <holstein> likely wont see*
[04:22] <devslash> if I understand it correctly it creates a partition thats about ~2TB for root
[04:22] <devslash> ok
[04:22] <devslash> but
[04:22] <rmmoul> devslash, If you're setting up ubuntu using the graphical installer, you'll be able to specify the partitions using the gui tool. Just google the base ubuntu install size, then add a few gigs to that for extra software, and create a second partition using the rest of the space.
[04:22] <devslash> if for some reason i need to do fsck wouldnt it be a good idea to have the media on a different partition
[04:22] <holstein> devslash: try it.. it'll tell you.. all in one partition. have a seperate partitions doenst automatically back anything up
[04:23] <devslash> I know. i am thinking about a situation where i might have to run fsck if something happens and i need to force a shutdown
[04:23] <devslash> wouldnt it be easier to do it on a partition thats 150 or 200gb vs 2TB
[04:23] <devslash> err faster
[04:23] <holstein> devslash: if something happens, you need a backup
[04:23] <rmmoul> devslash, you'll be fine with one partition but if you screw up the linux system at some point it'll be easy to wipe the install if it's on it's own partition
[04:24] <holstein> devslash: if you want a seperate partition, go for it
[04:24] <rmmoul> then you don't have to worry about accidentially deleting your media
[04:24] <devslash> 100GB is reasonable enough for linux right ?
[04:24] <devslash> for the root partition
[04:24] <holstein> yes.. but, you should have it backed up somewhere else, regardless
[04:24] <devslash> i will
[04:24] <rmmoul> that's a lot for the root partition
[04:25] <rmmoul> should be plenty if you're just setting up a media server
[04:25] <holstein> devslash: http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2013/02/manual-disk-partition-guide-for-ubuntu-server-edition.html
[04:25] <holstein> it should still look similar to that ^
[04:26] <nurupo> answering to my ealier question, in case someone googles it in irc logs or something. don't want to use pastebins since they tend to expire. here are comma-separated lines of a shell script:
[04:26] <nurupo> `#!/usr/local/bin/bash`, `shopt -s extglob`, `mkdir new`, `# move all dirs that are not "new" into "new" subdir`, `mv !(new) new`,
[04:26] <nurupo> `# the previous command ommits dot-files, so move them too`, `mv .??* new`
[04:27] <xeno__> Wow mc is broken.
[04:27] <holstein> xeno__: lftp is not working for you? or ftp?
[04:27] <xeno__> Also, you cannot program a script with a GUI program like mc, right?
[04:28] <devslash> the installer wont let me change the lvm logical volume
[04:28] <holstein> xeno__: you can with lftp or ftp.. why not those?
[04:28] <xeno__> First of all, I would like to be able to login to my ftp and not time out in 25 seconds.  Any way to set that, or does the server do it for me?
[04:29] <holstein> xeno__: i think you want ssh
[04:29] <rmmoul> xeno__, keep alive packets?
[04:29] <xeno__> Second of all, I would like to ftp in, then go get node1/node2/node3/myfile.something.
[04:29] <devslash> once the o.s. is installed can I resize the root logical volume from 2TB to 100GB ?
[04:29] <holstein> xeno__: sure.. use lftp or ftp to "ftp in"
[04:29] <rmmoul> not sure if you can manage those with your client
[04:29] <xeno__> The latter does not work.  It always fails and says the file isn't there even though it is.
[04:29] <holstein> xeno__: what specifically does not work?
[04:29] <shajeen>  I got TP-Link( TL-WN721N) wifi adapter. it work great but, when i unplug system freeze. Also tried using Power Hub Same result. ?
[04:30] <xeno__> It is not clear to my why there isn't a working ftpcp program that just allows me to ftpc user@host:path1/path2/path3/myfile .
[04:30] <rmmoul> devslash, you'll want to set it up durring install to avoid the hassles of resizing partitions
[04:30] <holstein> xeno__: try ftp or lftp, please
[04:30] <devslash> rmmoul, i tried but it wouldnt let me
[04:30] <holstein> xeno__: they work here.. could be a server side issue
[04:30] <xeno__> holsein:  I already said, the host in question does not provide sshd.
[04:30] <holstein> xeno__: sure.. try ftp, and lftp
[04:31] <holstein> xeno__: but, if you want a connection like ssh, you'll need ssh.. you cant make ftp be ssh
[04:31] <rmmoul> devslash, odd. One partition isn't going to cause you any problems, really.
[04:31] <xeno__> That git to the path above does NOT work.
[04:31] <holstein> xeno__: git?
[04:31] <xeno__> I tried it many ways.
[04:31] <devslash> rmmoul, i hope not. I wouldve preferred to have my media on a seperate lvm
[04:31] <xeno__> Not git, get.
[04:32] <holstein> xeno__: try sharing a few of the ways, specifically..
[04:32] <holstein> xeno__: share your exact "ftp" command, or "lftp" commmands
[04:33] <xeno__> If I cd to the ftp directory, then get the file, it works.
[04:33] <xeno__> If I get with either a starting slash, or not, and specify the entire pathname it does not work.
[04:34] <holstein> !paste | xeno__
[04:34] <xeno__> Ok...
[04:34] <holstein> xeno__: please share
[04:35] <xeno__> I cannot be more specific because it is a private company.
[04:35] <xeno__> I can just give examples.
[04:35] <holstein> xeno__: ask them for support, then
[04:35] <xeno__> ftp> cd a/b/c
[04:35] <xeno__> ftp> get d
[04:35] <xeno__> works
[04:35] <xeno__> ftp> get a/b/c/d
[04:35] <xeno__> does not work
[04:35] <xeno__> ftp> get /a/b/c/d
[04:35] <xeno__> does not work.
[04:36] <holstein> xeno__: if it were me, i would set up an ftp server locally, so i know what is expected, and the variables are under my control.. then, i get the client side under control, and know what the server is supposed to do
[04:36] <holstein> otherwise, script the cd as well
[04:44] <Lotusa> hi~ Could someone send me a /boot/grub/ubuntu_grub_bg.tga of Ubuntu 14.04?
[04:45] <devslash> has anyone here used ubuntu as a media server ?
[04:46] <rmmoul> devslash, have you checked out xmbc?
[04:46] <devslash> i know of it
[04:46] <devslash> is it possible to access it outside of my lan?
[04:47] <rmmoul> It should be, if you set up your router to forward the ports properly
[04:47] <rmmoul> does dyndns still do a free tier?
[04:47] <rmmoul> if they do, you can set up your own domain name for the server and access it from anywhere.
[04:48] <devslash> i have a dns redirect
[04:48] <rmmoul> I think name cheap offers the auto updating ip for dns too, for free when you buy a domain.
[04:49] <devslash> ok but can you access xbmc from anywhere on only inside of my lan
[04:49] <rmmoul> I'm streaming a movie in my browser, or I'd google it for you.
[04:50] <rmmoul> worse case, you could set up a vpn server on the machine, and connect to that before connecting to xmbc
[04:51] <rmmoul> but, really I'm sure someone has tried this, so you should be able to get a definitive answer if you google around a bit
[04:54] <ptbsare> hello everyone
[04:55] <AlphaX> hello
[04:55] <nevyn> jazzninja: poke
[04:55] <ptbsare> i have a question here
[04:56] <ptbsare> can you help me?
[04:56] <rmmoul> not before you ask the question
[04:56] <AlphaX> maybe
[04:56] <ptbsare> anyone knows how to manually switch to ati card under dpm enabled?
[04:57] <ptbsare> my computer has 2 graphic cards
[04:57] <ptbsare> Intel and ATI
[04:57] <AlphaX> sorry ,I don't know how to switch it in ubuntu
[04:59] <ptbsare> AlphaX: can you tell me how to switch graphic cards using the vgaswitch?
[05:03] <AlphaX> ptbsare, I have not tried,
[05:04] <AlphaX> ptbsare, you can try to search in google
[05:06] <Lotusa> help me~ Could someone send me a /boot/grub/ubuntu_grub_bg.tga fo Ubuntu 14.04?
[05:10] <Beldar> Lotusa, Strange request, what is the actual issue?
[05:11] <dcajacob05> is it possible to modify the base image of a USB Ubuntu install key?  Basically, want to be able to bring up a machine with an openvpn key already installed
[05:12] <hellinterim> When plugging in a usb external into an ubuntu server what does it usually assign the device name as?  I ls /dev before and after plugging in and then diff'd the files.. No change.
[05:13] <Beldar> hellinterim, You certainly get a mounted device sdXX try sudo fdsik -l if not roor
[05:13] <Beldar> fdisk -l   sorry
[05:14] <hellinterim> nothing. Just my sba and sdb drives :S
[05:14] <hellinterim> i did modprobe fuse then lsmod'd but see no fuse loaded. *shrugs
[05:14] <Beldar> hellinterim, It mounts in other environments?
[05:15] <hellinterim> yep I formatted and built the fs on my gentoo desktop and mount it all the time.
[05:15] <Beldar> hellinterim, whats the file system?
[05:15] <hellinterim> ext3
[05:16] <Beldar> hellinterim, Hmm, should show in ~/media
[05:16] <hellinterim> yeah ><
[05:16] <Beldar> hellinterim, YOU might try #ubuntu-server as well.
[05:17] <hellinterim> alright thanks.
[05:17] <Beldar> no problem
[05:17] <lotus> ?
[05:18] <omarshims> hello
[05:18] <Beldar> lotus, I addressed you, take a look.
[05:18] <omarshims> from there
[05:18] <omarshims> ?
[05:18] <omarshims> عربي بس ما دايرين غير عربي
[05:19] <Beldar> omarshims, english please
[05:19] <omarshims> english only
[05:19] <omarshims> hi belder
[05:20] <Beldar> omarshims, Hi. ;)
[05:20] <omarshims> beldar
[05:20] <omarshims>  where ar you from?
[05:20] <Beldar> not a support issue, bu remulack
[05:20] <Beldar> I'm a cone head
[05:20] <omarshims> whtat?
[05:20] <omarshims> what?
[05:22] <omarshims> اه
[05:22] <Beldar> omarshims, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPfjHs32do an american shows comedy character.
[05:23] <Beldar> lotus, Can you tell us what the actual issue is? Grub is fairly easy to just fix
[05:28] <shajeen> I got TP-Link( TL-WN721N) wifi adapter. it work great but, when i unplug system freeze. Also tried using Power Hub Same result. ?
[05:28] <shajeen> any one to help me ?
[05:31] <omarshims> hi
[05:31] <omarshims> from here?
[05:31] <Beldar> omarshims, This is support not chat, if you want to chat #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:32] <segundo> anyone know any channel backbox?
[05:33] <Beldar> !alis | segundo
[05:34] <segundo> ok
[05:34] <segundo> thank you
[05:34] <segundo> and...
[05:34] <segundo> what better script for irc in ubuntu?
[05:34] <Beldar> segundo, Script? you mean a IRC app?
[05:35] <segundo> Beldar, exactly
[05:36] <hoho> Hello. Would anyone happen to know how to use a virtual webcam? (i.e. have a fake webcam show up in things like pidgin)
[05:36] <Beldar> segundo, There are handfuls, better is an opinion. I bet you can form one yourself. ;)
[05:37] <mapleton> evening, folks.  nix n00b here (but pretty technical)  I'm looking to install SOGo so I can share calendars with wifey (and she likes Outlook.)  I have an old box, 2.2ghz P4C 2GB.  I read that the consensus is that Ubuntu is a decent beginning distro.  True/false?  I notice that it suggests Ubuntu 10.04-12.04 (which is fine.)  It doesn't mention server edition or not.  Whats the difference between ubuntu editions (I'm guessing maybe c
[05:39] <segundo> i using Xchat, but found weak
[05:40] <Artemis3> mapleton, for old systems i'd recommend lubuntu instead.
[05:41] <Ben64> mapleton: you got cut off at "guessing maybe" ....  I don't know what SOGo is ... There is no such consensus about Ubuntu ... what suggests 10.04-12.04? both of those have been replaced by 14.04
[05:43] <mapleton> SOGo is the Open Xchange project
[05:43] <mapleton> its the open source equivalent to Microsoft Exchange server, and can do native outlook support
[05:45] <mapleton> the installation guide suggests a range of ubuntu versions.. I see there is a later version of ubuntu, not sure why they limited that in the guide...  but since it won't be exposed to the outside world, I'm less worried about exploits
[05:45] <delt> hello
[05:45] <delt> how do i get rid of /dev/sdb sdc sdd sde sdf sdg and so on after inserting and removing USB drives?
[05:45] <mapleton> and several websites seem to say Ubuntu is the way to go... but if you have other suggestions, I'm all ears
[05:46] <Beldar> delt, Where are you seeing them after removing?
[05:46] <delt> Beldar: in /dev
[05:46] <DaveyG> Hi all, anyone really bored and fancy explaining a command line string to me?
[05:46] <mapleton> (and to finish the questions) I'm guessing maybe clustering/failover or more complete default packages?  or something else?
[05:46] <Pilot_aus> DaveyG: try me, but im an amatuer..
[05:46] <DaveyG> rename 'y/_/* /' *
[05:47] <Beldar> delt, Hmm not sure, why I have to ask?
[05:47] <DaveyG> i know its very straight forward. and its works i just dont understand what each bit means
[05:47] <Pilot_aus> DaveyG: nope, beyond me im a afraid
[05:48] <delt> Beldar: because the device is no longer plugged in.. i thought udev was supposed to take care of that
[05:48] <DaveyG> thanks anyway.
[05:48] <Pilot_aus> My question to everyone is: you know those java based chat rooms, is there much chance of them being malicious? ie is it safe to use them?
[05:48] <Beldar> delt, Beyond my pay grade isall.
[05:48] <rww> DaveyG: is there an extra * in there?
[05:48] <delt> uh wut?
[05:49] <delt> DaveyG: take a look at the "rename" manpage
[05:49] <DaveyG> i have.
[05:49] <DaveyG> and ive googled the hell out of it.
[05:50] <DaveyG> I just dont understand exactly what is going on in that line.
[05:50] <DaveyG> there are somethings google just cant teach me
[05:50] <rww> 05:48:29 < rww> DaveyG: is there an extra * in there?
[05:51] <llutz_> DaveyG: the expression shoul dgive an error (Replacement list is longer than search list )
[05:51] <leftea> hello
[05:52] <DaveyG> yes your right, sorry the line that i put up was one that i broke
[05:52] <DaveyG> it should be
[05:52] <DaveyG> rename 'y/_/ /' *
[05:52] <rww> ok good
[05:52] <llutz_> DaveyG: rename y     transliterates the chars of first expression with those from second (y/A-Z/a-z/   would change all uppercase chars into lowercase)
[05:53] <llutz_> DaveyG: in your case change _ into spaces
[05:53] <rww> rename is a command that takes two arguments. the first is a sed expression, the second is what file(s) to rename according to the expression
[05:53] <rww> y/_/ / means transliterate/this stuff/to this stuff/, so transliterate _ to spaces
[05:53] <rww> * means all files in the current directory
[05:54] <DaveyG> so what does the y do?
[05:54] <rww> DaveyG: it tells rename to transliterate, rather than some other operation
[05:54] <rww> http://www.grymoire.com/unix/sed.html
[05:55] <DaveyG> okay, and why does it need the '
[05:56] <rww> DaveyG: so that your shell treats it all as one parameter, I guess
[05:56] <delt> DaveyG: because there are spaces in the argument, and without the quotes, your shell would treat it as multiple arguments
[05:57] <DaveyG> okay that makes sense. thanks. I could go on and on with linux questions.
[05:57] <delt> DaveyG: could also use " ....or escape special characters with \
[05:58] <DaveyG> As much as google is great somethings are just so much clearer when you speak to a real peron
[05:58] <DaveyG> *person
[05:59] <delt> DaveyG: if you want to specify a filename that has spaces on the command line, you need to either put it in quotes, or put \ before each space (tab completion does that for you)
[05:59] <delt> same if you have a file called *
[05:59] <DaveyG> Thats the escape char?
[06:00] <delt> if you say, for example: rm *
[06:00] <delt> that would remove all files in the current directory
[06:00] <delt> but you want to remove only the file called "*"
[06:00] <DaveyG> oh i understand
[06:00] <delt> so you'd have to put * between quotes
[06:00] <shafox> I have a monitor connected to laptop through vga port in my dell vostro with 12.04 LTE version but the connected monitor screen doesnt have resolution same as the laptop tried to change it through display settings but it doesnt show above 1024x768 , while laptop has 1366x768
[06:00] <delt> DaveyG: same with filenames that begin with -
[06:01] <delt> DaveyG: a trick for those is to specify the directory, like: rm ./-this-filename-starts-with-a-dash
[06:01] <shafox> This is the output of sudo xrandr -q http://pastie.org/9204824
[06:01] <llutz_> delt: or using rm -- -file
[06:01] <delt> oh, also yeah
[06:02] <DaveyG> could i make the rename 'y/_/ /' * go through sub folders, like you can with some commands by adding -r?
[06:02] <llutz_> DaveyG: "man rename"
[06:02] <cyborgcygnus> I ran the teamspeak sh file that you get from there website. Was wondering if I was supposed to run it in folder from the file system so it's installed as if it were from the software centre. I don't like how it just dumps a folder wherever run the script from.
[06:03] <DaveyG> so i could use:   man rename 'y/_/ /' *      to change all files with a space to a _ including any files contained in subdirectories?
[06:03] <llutz_> DaveyG: find . type f -print0 |xargs -0 rename ....            could be one way
[06:03] <llutz_> DaveyG: no, you use "man rename" to read the man-page
[06:04] <DaveyG> oh i see.
[06:04] <delt> xargs is powerful, but a bit confusing to use.
[06:05] <delt> first you have to understand piping | and redirection > >>
[06:05] <DaveyG> can you put "man" infront of any command to get more info then the --help
[06:05] <delt> DaveyG: most of them yes
[06:05] <DaveyG> i understand piping
[06:05] <DaveyG> i think.
[06:06] <delt> all standard unix commands have a manpage (manual page)
[06:06] <DaveyG> and i do understand redirection
[06:06] <DaveyG> piping means take the output of the first command and run the results through the second command?
[06:06] <delt> yeah
[06:07] <DaveyG> just learning that you can type man infront of a command is going to be so helpful.
[06:07] <delt> so if you type something like.... find <whatever> | xargs <do some stuff>  ... then xargs takes the output of "find" which is usually one filename per line
[06:08] <delt> DaveyG: yeah, having lots of terminal windows is very helpful :D
[06:08] <DaveyG> I discovered the screen command in this room
[06:09] <DaveyG> amazing.
[06:09] <delt> DaveyG: some commands are specifically desgined to be used after | like for example tr
[06:09] <DaveyG>  its stuff like that that only real people can point you too.
[06:09] <DaveyG> whats tr
[06:10] <delt> originally stands for "translate" ... it takes one set of characters and replaces it for another
[06:10] <llutz> DaveyG: type "whatis tr" into terminal
[06:10] <LrdArc> where is ubuntu icon (on the launcher) image location? how can I edit these file
[06:11] <DaveyG> okay so i should be able to use the find command, pipe that to tr and ask tr to change any spaces to _'s
[06:11] <delt> DaveyG: try: echo "go sack yourself" | sed s/sa/fu/
[06:11] <delt> :)
[06:12] <delt> if you just type "sed" as a command, it will wait for you to type stuff to operate on
[06:12] <delt> if you pipe the output of another command, it will operate on that.
[06:13] <trinaldi> quit
[06:13] <delt> davey: a | b means both commands a and b are running at once, the "standard output (stdout)" of a being the "standard input (stdin)" of b
[06:14] <delt> by default, a command's stdin and stdout are what you type, and what you see in the terminal windo
[06:14] <delt> w
[06:14] <DaveyG> okay so to change all spaces in any file name to an _ i need to type:  find . | tr "/\ /_"
[06:15] <llutz> DaveyG: no, tr won't rename files, just changes the output
[06:15] <DaveyG> i guess there should be an * somewhere too
[06:15] <delt> well, that would only change them on the screen =) it won't rename them
[06:15] <DaveyG> oh i see. So how can i tell the rename command to look in sub folders
[06:16] <llutz> DaveyG: find . type f -print0 |xargs -0 rename ....            could be one way
[06:16] <delt> you can specify * and then */* and then */*/* and so on, until there's no more subdirectories =)
[06:17] <llutz> -type
[06:17] <delt> * means all files/dirs in the current directory, while */* means all files/dirs in all directories in the current directory, and so on
[06:17] <DaveyG> so find . grabs all files that it can see in that folder
[06:17] <delt> recursively finds everything from the directory you tell it
[06:18] <delt> you can add -type to tell it to find only, say, symlinks, or regular files
[06:18] <DaveyG> type f defines that its looking for files rather than folders?
[06:18] <delt> exactly
[06:18] <llutz> DaveyG: even find comes with a man-page ;)
[06:18] <delt> actually it's -type (with a dash)
[06:19] <DaveyG> if not seen print() before on a cli but i guess that just prints the output to the "pipe"
[06:19] <rww> it's print0, not print()
[06:19] <DaveyG> oh okay.
[06:19] <DaveyG> why the 0
[06:20] <rww> the filenames are separated by a zero byte character rather than a newline
[06:20] <rww> and then xargs -0 splits up by zero bytes
[06:20] <rww> newlines are valid characters in ext* filesystems (the default filesystem Ubuntu uses), hence that oddness
[06:20] <rww> in file names in ext* **
[06:21] <delt> meaning, you can have "enters" in filenames
[06:21] <llutz> aynthing except  / and \0
[06:21] <delt> line breaks, newlines, carriage returns, however you want to call them
[06:21] <DaveyG> oh again i didnt know that
[06:22] <delt> \0 means a zero byte. not the character 0, that's different.
[06:22] <DaveyG> dare i ask why
[06:23] <DaveyG> as in a 0 binary rather than an ascii char?
[06:23] <rww> DaveyG: it's the first character in the ASCII table, represented by all zeros at the bit level
[06:24] <delt> all characters are identified with an ascii code of one byte, which means from 0 to 255
[06:24] <DaveyG> okay so what does the xargs command do
[06:25] <delt> it takes whatever you throw at it as a list of entries, and executes a command for each entry
[06:26] <DaveyG> can i use the xargs alond with --rename and the line i had before
[06:26] <DaveyG> *along
[06:27] <DaveyG>  find . type f -print0 |xargs -0 --rename 'y/_/ /' *
[06:28] <john_doe_jr1> I want to be able to automatically jump from one computer to another using ssh..is that possible?
[06:28] <delt> xargs would tell you it doesn't know what the argument --rename means
[06:30] <delt> i believe xargs has a special expression {} which means the entry name it's processing
[06:31] <DaveyG> dont understand what you want to do john_doe_jr1?
[06:31] <john_doe_jr1> basically I need to be able to ssh into one computer but it automatically jump to another
[06:32] <riverloop> Hello
[06:32] <badbz> what do you mean by ‘jump’?
[06:32] <riverloop> I can't create a bluetooth dialup connection using my phone. Using trusty.
[06:33] <riverloop> http://postimg.org/image/xf944um6x/
[06:33] <riverloop> Does anybody have the same problem? It worked great in precise.
[06:33] <DaveyG> maybe you could explain what your reason is to help understand what you want to do john_doe_jr1
[06:34] <badbz> sorry riverloop I’ve never done it :(
[06:34] <llutz> john_doe_jr1: ssh -A host1 ssh -A host2 ssh -A lasthost
[06:34] <delt> anyway.. i need sleep
[06:35] <delt> good night everyone
[06:35] <llutz> john_doe_jr1: ssh -A -t host1 ssh -A -t host2 ssh -A lasthost                 sry
[06:35] <badbz> gnight delt
[06:35] <DaveyG> Thanks all for your help and advice, ive learnt more in 20 minutes than i have all month with google.
[06:35] <DaveyG> night delt
[06:36] <riverloop> badbz: :(
[06:46] <Mono22> hi
[06:46] <Mono22> !list
[06:47] <helmut_> hi
[06:58] <shajeen>  I got TP-Link( TL-WN721N) wifi adapter. it work great but, when i unplug systemfreeze. Also tried using Power Hub Same result. ? any idea...
[07:00] <wols> shajeen: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line   try to use /etc/network/interfaces instead of network-manager maybe?
[07:01] <mamatserdang> hi
[07:01] <badbz> what does your systemd log show on reboot?
[07:01] <shajeen> thx wols let me try..
[07:01] <bekks> systemd? Ubuntu uses upstart IIRC.
[07:02] <badbz> you’re right, I’m old school and multi*nix, I get things crossed.
[07:02] <mamatserdang> my question is how to avoid a program to load help when if fails to run.
[07:02] <bekks> mamatserdang: Which program using which Ubuntu?
[07:03] <mamatserdang> trust xubuntu
[07:03] <mamatserdang> i have two types of file manager
[07:03] <bekks> mamatserdang: whats "trust ubuntu"?
[07:03] <rww> trusty
[07:03] <rww> evidently
[07:03] <mamatserdang> im running lxde on xubuntu 14.04
[07:04] <mamatserdang> the program that have this problem is thunar
[07:05] <mamatserdang> pcmanfm runs with no problem
[07:06] <badbz> what does syslog say after reboot when the network crashes shajeen
[07:06] <bekks> mamatserdang: So what happens when you start thunar?
[07:06] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:06] <cristian_c> I'd like to delete all the content on my mp3 player to replace it with my backup folder content
[07:06] <mamatserdang> it load help file
[07:06] <cristian_c> How can I do it?
[07:07] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:09] <mamatserdang> is it okay if i remove xfce completely and run lxde instead on xubuntu?
[07:11] <llutz> cristian_c: "mp3-player" supports usb mass-storage? mount it, remove mp3s, copy your stuff, umount, done
[07:11] <cristian_c> llutz, ok, but I can't remove all the files
[07:11] <badbz> mount /dev/*mp3player* /mp3player
[07:11] <llutz> cristian_c: pls don't flood the channel with details
[07:12] <cristian_c> badbz, mp3 player is mounted
[07:12] <cristian_c> llutz, what details are needed? :)
[07:12] <badbz> what happens when you rm -rf?
[07:12] <cristian_c> badbz, I tried to delete them from command line
[07:12] <bekks> badbz: read "man rm" to get to know that.
[07:13] <badbz> bekks sorry I was replying to cristian_c
[07:13] <llutz> cristian_c: what filesystem, did you mount it rw?
[07:13] <cristian_c> badbz, for some files I get 'file or directory not found'
[07:13] <cristian_c> or similar
[07:13] <cristian_c> llutz, fat32, I remembber
[07:15] <badbz> weird
[07:16] <llutz> cristian_c: check the "mount" output for the line corresponding to your mp3-player. paste that line
[07:16] <cristian_c> ok
[07:17] <cristian_c> Does -f option force the removing?
[07:17] <bekks> cristian_c: Yes.
[07:17] <cristian_c> I use always -r option only
[07:17] <cristian_c> uhm
[07:17] <llutz> -r read-only
[07:18] <cristian_c> llutz, /dev/sdb1 on /media/cristian/PHILIPS type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)
[07:18] <bekks>  -r is recursive.
[07:18] <cristian_c> llutz, I mean rm command
[07:18] <llutz> cristian_c: ah
[07:19] <cristian_c> ok, I've tried with 'rm -rf *'
[07:19] <cristian_c> but two files are remaining
[07:19] <badbz> which files
[07:19] <cristian_c> AUTORUN.INF and Raga3icon.fil
[07:20] <badbz> run ll and see who the owner of the files are
[07:20] <cristian_c> owner and group: cristian
[07:20] <cristian_c> for both
[07:21] <badbz> sudo rm -f AUTORUN.INF Raga3icon.fil
[07:21] <cristian_c> but I try to remove one of them from file manager, I get: 'The file operation was completed with errors'
[07:22] <badbz> any way to see what the errors are?
[07:22] <cristian_c> badbz, no, from command line, I don't get any errors
[07:22] <cristian_c> but file are not deleted in the file manager
[07:23] <cristian_c> badbz, I can report the errors in the file manager
[07:23] <badbz> press F5 in the file manager window and see if the files are still there
[07:24] <cristian_c> badbz, Raga3icon.fil: Error into retrieving info for «/media/cristian/PHILIPS/Raga3icon.fil»: File or directory not found
[07:24] <cristian_c> badbz, ok
[07:24] <cristian_c> badbz, :O
[07:24] <badbz> nice right…
[07:24] <cristian_c> they are disappeared
[07:24] <cristian_c> incredible!
[07:25] <cristian_c> badbz, what does F5 make?
[07:25] <cristian_c> exactly
[07:25] <cristian_c> in pcmanfm
[07:25] <badbz> it forces a ‘refresh’
[07:25] <cristian_c> ok
[07:25] <cristian_c> thanks
[07:25] <cristian_c> :)
[07:25] <badbz> no problem :)
[07:26] <cristian_c> badbz, now, I can replace the blank space on the device, with my backup folder content
[07:26] <cristian_c> :)
[07:26] <cristian_c> I'm very happy
[07:27] <badbz> awesome :) glad we were able to work together.
[07:27] <cristian_c> :)
[07:38] <Applesouce> Hello Ubuntu Fans, I have installed 14.04 lately and updatet the nVidia driver with current-nvidia from the x-swat ppa. The problem is, when I boot my Ubuntu now, the screen just stays black, but if I choose secure boot in grub and then go to resume, it boots to the desktop. Please help me.
[07:40] <somsip> !ppa | Applesouce (x-swat PPA support is what you need right now)
[07:50] <hanratty_abagnal> hai cn sum1 tel me hw 2 delete ubuntu n install windows
[07:52] <hanratty_abagnal> pls halp
[07:52] <Applesouce> But there is nobody that helps
[07:52] <rww> hanratty_abagnal: ask ##windows
[07:53] <hanratty_abagnal> thanks rww i will do dat
[08:03] <shervin_agh67> ubuntu hacked by me :D
[08:05] <bekks> shervin_agh67: So you managed to install it. Thats fine, but not "hacking".
[08:09] <devslash> does anyone here use xbmc ?
[08:10] <odroid> Hi all just wanting to know if the latest arm baised ubuntu which is still on saucy 13.10 is maintained still. now that ubuntu has updated
[08:11] <bazhang> odroid, try in #ubuntu-arm
[08:12] <odroid> thanks bazhang
[08:19] <shipy> doos fweenode have ssl
[08:20] <wols> yes. tor too
[08:20] <shipy> doos ubuntu have ssl or tor too
[08:20] <wols> yes. various irc clients can connect via tor or ssl
[08:21] <bazhang> shipy, ask about this in #freenode
[08:21] <shipy> where is various irc clients this is thunderbird
[08:21] <shipy> let me check bazhang
[08:22] <shipy> yep bazhang
[08:22] <shipy> why doos ssl not connect?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> shipy: follow the advice bazhang told you, join #freenode
[08:25] <shipy> give support to shipy
[08:25] <shipy> how many socil workers doos ubuntu have
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> shipy: this channel is used for ubuntu support problems, not chat
[08:27] <shipy> how to fix ubuntus support problem
[08:28] <shipy> help to fix shipy eyes
[08:29] <shipy> considering mechanical brille device
[08:29] <shipy> I will fight this war
[08:29] <Guest43306> who can debug java on ubuntu?
[08:30] <shipy> yes if who has support from the environment
[08:31] <shipy> if one man gets lambed let the environment roast
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> !ot | shipy
[08:32] <shipy> something is messing with shipy eyes
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> !ops | shipy
[08:32] <shipy> lotuspsychje: here I am
[08:32] <shipy> what does lotuspsychje want help for
[08:33] <shipy> roast the AI IAM robots or what plays with my eyes
[08:33] <shipy> liars do not enter the sanctuary
[08:52] <Viking667> hi all. I'm having a bit of trouble with gnome-shell not saving any of my changes, so that after I log out and log back in, the defaults are set instead.
[08:52] <Viking667> i.e. screenmode is back to 1920x1080, keyboard layout is back to US instead of US(Dvorak), and two monitors instead of one.
[08:53] <Viking667> what do I need to do to correct this/
[08:53] <Viking667> (14.04, 32-bit)
[08:55] <larrypg> Viking667, not sure how gnome-shell is set up but under system settings - session and startup - save settings on logout
[08:56] <Viking667> I suspect I've done just that, but in a roundabout fashion, by invoking dconf-editor and setting that very setting.
[08:57] <Viking667> Incidentally, under my "System Settings", I don't have a Session-and-startup applet.
[09:01] <Viking667> ... except the dconf setting didn't stick.
[09:02] <Viking667> And something else. As a result of the change from 1920x1080 down to my preferred setting of 1360x768 (yes, there's a reason), it seems that gnomeshell stil thinks the screen is 1920x1080, so has sized the left-hand panel accordingly without rescaling.
[09:02] <EpicCyndaquil> Viking667: mind if I ask what that reason is?
[09:02] <smart> hello I need some help installing a plugin: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=71741
[09:03] <EpicCyndaquil> smart: running the exact commands that readme gives you should work just fine
[09:03] <Viking667> Minecraft crawls at fullscreen at 1920x1080, so I resized down to 1360x768 so it can at least give me fasterthan 12fps
[09:04] <smart> I get lost when it says: patch freezer.py using blah blah... I search for freezer.py and there are eleven files with that same name
[09:04] <efre> hallo
[09:04] <EpicCyndaquil> there might be a mod to force resolution, you may want to consider going that route, Viking667
[09:05] <EpicCyndaquil> smart: give me a minute, I'll take a look. That's odd if they named all the files the same.
[09:05] <Viking667> gnome-shell doesn't seem to like it when the resolution gets changed by force under it...I've had minecraft outright crash, about the only time it does fail on Linux.
[09:05] <Viking667> So I've learned to use Alt-Enter (switch app to fullscreen)
[09:05] <Viking667> ... which gives me a fullscreened app without desktop resizing.
[09:06] <EpicCyndaquil> smart: also, is there a reason you can't do `pip install cx_Freeze`? Does it absolutely need the svn version?
[09:07] <smart> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=71742
[09:07] <Basilic> hello all
[09:07] <Basilic> I have a problem with my DHCP on ubuntu 12.04
[09:07] <Basilic> the DHCP seems don't work
[09:07] <smart> I just followed these indications: http://code.google.com/p/xbox-remote/wiki/XSopcast
[09:07] <EpicCyndaquil> you're doing something wrong then, smart. Here's the source folder: https://bitbucket.org/anthony_tuininga/cx_freeze/src/5b9ee5b8e7de/cx_Freeze/?at=default
[09:08] <bekks> Basilic: What does that mean exactly?
[09:08] <Basilic> I have change the motherboard of my dhcp server
[09:08] <Basilic> now, I don't send Ip for anybody
[09:08] <Viking667> Ah well, I'll head on out of here.
[09:08] <Viking667> thanks.
[09:08] <Basilic> if I use another DHCP it's connect
[09:09] <bekks> Basilic: Then check the configuration of your OS and the DHCP server.
[09:09] <ceblue> EpicCyndaquil: Does this package up the source code with the intepreter and libraries? (Sorry I just got there and first thing I saw was your link)
[09:10] <Basilic> my problem is that the dhcp server hasn't any graphical output
[09:10] <bekks> Basilic: Which isnt necessary at all, since all you need is ssh.
[09:10] <Basilic> yes
[09:10] <EpicCyndaquil> ceblue: are you asking for the same info smart is?
[09:10] <bekks> Basilic: So connect using ssh, and investigate the issue.
[09:10] <Basilic> but to use ssh the server need an IP
[09:11] <bekks> Basilic: The DHCP server has a static IP.
[09:11] <Basilic> and actualy their arn't
[09:11] <Basilic> think it's the problem
[09:11] <ceblue> EpicCyndaquil: I don't know. Yours was the first message I saw. Anyway I am looking at the source code so I think I can work out what I wanted to know.
[09:11] <bekks> Basilic: And you can manually set an IP from the same subnet.
[09:11] <Basilic> where define this static, in the interface file?
[09:12] <bekks> Basilic: you can set it temporary, using ifconfig.
[09:12] <smart> EpicCyndaquil I am a bit puzzled could I skip the patch step?
[09:13] <smart> I seem to have all versions since I downloaded the file from svn
[09:13] <EpicCyndaquil> smart: what EXACTLY is this readme.txt file for? That xbmc plugin? or a required component for it?
[09:13] <smart> I guess it is a component...
[09:14] <smart> it only comes when you download the plugin via svn
[09:14] <berts> hello all's
[09:14] <EpicCyndaquil> smart: hold on a sec, there's no reason you should need cx_freeze for some xbmc plugin... let me look
[09:15] <smart> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=71743
[09:15] <smart> the point is the plugin is not working
[09:16] <smart> thats why I messed with that
[09:16] <EpicCyndaquil> smart: all the installer says to do is grab the tgz, untar it, and copy it all to that folder
[09:16] <smart> done
[09:16] <smart> and its not working
[09:16] <EpicCyndaquil> chances are it won't work any differently compiling from source
[09:16] <smart> and i had the ia32libs already installed
[09:16] <EpicCyndaquil> likely something changed on the sopcast end
[09:17] <smart> at the xbmc freenode channel someone told me it does not look to have the propper files in it
[09:17] <ceblue> smart: is it copied to the correct folder? that path seems weird to me
[09:18] <majod> ubuntu somehow overrides my bios (uefi) settings...when i have my system ssd connected, my usb keyboard doesnt work at all until system boots (i cant get to boot menu/system setup), if i disconnect my ssd, both options suddenly work.
[09:18] <EpicCyndaquil> the xbmc channel will likely have people who can confirm if the plugin is still working, how they got it to work, etc smart
[09:18] <smart> I dont have the plugins/video folder mentioned in the install indications
[09:19] <smart> I thought the folder would be addons instead
[09:19] <ceblue> smart: my xbmc has a 'plugins' folder not an 'addins' folder. it's possible yor config is different, of course
[09:19] <smart> ubuntu 12.04 64bits here
[09:20] <ceblue> I was all interested as I thought this was a python question but turns out it's an xbmc issue. Ah well, back to sleep for me!
[09:20] <smart> lol
[09:22] <Bundestrojaner> hello
[09:22] <EpicCyndaquil> yeah, I was confused about what you were trying to get out of it, ceblue :P
[09:23] <Bundestrojaner> how can i install the ladspa-audiofilters for use in alsa?
[09:23] <Bundestrojaner> apt-cache search ladspa returns a really long list...
[09:24] <xtimus> hi
[09:26] <xtimus> is their any one
[09:26] <Bundestrojaner> xtimus: positive
[09:27] <ceblue> majod: If it's affecting behaviour before boot, it's not ubuntu. Ubuntu isn't even loaded during the POST. Is this a USB ssd? it coube be power draw through the USB port - try them in different ports
[09:27] <xtimus> hi bun
[09:27] <xtimus> how to boot mmx is unbuntu
[09:28] <ikonia> mmx is ubuntu ?
[09:28] <majod> ceblue: its standard sata ssd disk. this problem started after i installed ubuntu.
[09:28] <bekks> xtimus: that sentence doesnt make much sense :)
[09:29] <xtimus> mmx=micromax modem
[09:30] <ikonia> xtimus: what is the problem
[09:31] <xtimus> i am a window user ,and i dont find  the installtion icon
[09:31] <ikonia> xtimus: you don't install anything
[09:31] <ceblue> majod: That's coincidental then. USB keyboard not working during efi/bios has nothing to do with the operating system. I'm not sure how to fix this as I believe it to a hardware problem.
[09:32] <xtimus> ya can you tell me to install it
[09:32] <Basilic> bekks, bad idea
[09:32] <Basilic> I have done a fixe address in the interface file
[09:32] <Basilic> now I can't see it
[09:33] <Basilic> not a the fixed ip and don't work this another dhcp
[09:33] <bekks> Basilic: so you did it wrong.
[09:34] <bekks> Basilic: And define what you mean by "I cant see".
[09:34] <xtimus> ikonia !!!
[09:34] <ikonia> xtimus: what ?
[09:36] <xtimus> please help how to install apps from pendrove
[09:36] <ikonia> xtimus: you don't do that
[09:36] <bekks> xtimus: Whats "pendrove" - and why dont you install your desired software from the official ubuntu repos?
[09:36] <IrisBlue> ciao
[09:36] <IrisBlue> !list
[09:36] <ikonia> xtimus: you should use software center
[09:37] <xtimus> my internet connection is slow so i download from cafe
[09:38] <bekks> xtimus: And?
[09:38] <ikonia> xtimus: it's not a good way to do this - as you will need dependency packages
[09:38] <ikonia> xtimus: ubuntu packages are not "huge" so you'll find it easier to use a slower internet connection than try to use static disk sources
[09:38] <xtimus> tell me to install any software !
[09:38] <Timvde> Hi. Since 14.04, my laptop consumes a lot more power (battery time literally halved). After some investigation, I found out my wireless card is the culprit. Somehow it doesn't want to go in power save mode anymore. When manually running "iw dev wlan0 set power_save on", it says: Operation not supported (-95)
[09:38] <bekks> xtimus: Use the software center.
[09:38] <ikonia> xtimus: use software center
[09:38] <ceblue> I believe he is trying  to install a USB modem made by "micromax" but is lacking the english to express this request
[09:39] <ceblue> i really don;t know what he's asking, we should probably try to find this out or direct him to an appropriate language channel
[09:39] <xtimus> buddes i have that apps in my pendrive then why should i download it?
[09:40] <ikonia> xtimus: because you will find it hard to install from a pen drive
[09:40] <ikonia> xtimus: you will find it easier/better to use a slower internet connection and just wait
[09:41] <xtimus> tell me if you want to ! no matter how hard it is .
[09:41] <ikonia> xtimus: there are documents on the intenret
[09:41] <ikonia> xtimus: if you want it that bad I'd suggest reading them to get a basic understanding
[09:41] <ikonia> then if you have specific questions, ask
[09:41] <xtimus> i don't find them
[09:41] <ikonia> if you can't find them, you will probably be not advanced enough to actually "do it" then
[09:42] <ikonia> and I suggest using software center - keep it simple/easy
[09:42] <xtimus> is it that difficult!
[09:42] <ikonia> xtimus: it can be to meet dependencies
[09:42] <xtimus> you can tell me site?
[09:43] <ikonia> no
[09:43] <xtimus> whats the problem?
[09:43] <ceblue> Oh I see, the USB modem has a flash card reader built in. Now I understand the question.
[09:44] <majod> ceblue: ive disconnected my ssd, opened the bios, enabled usb full support, restarted, keyboard works. connected ssd back, started the pc, pressed DEL, keyboard works as i opened the bios succesfully. restarted, booted to linux. after i changed the bios settings and booted to linux, my keyboard doesnt work again in post screen. only after i boot to OS.
[09:44] <xtimus> ok you can tell how to DOS
[09:44] <ikonia> xtimus: no, we do not help you do bad things
[09:45] <ceblue> majod: What happens if you disconnect and reconnect the keyboard?
[09:45] <xtimus> open DOS
[09:45] <ikonia> xtimus: what is your native language
[09:45] <majod> ceblue: when? in OS?
[09:45] <ceblue> majod: Try that, and try in the bios
[09:46] <xtimus> i know c and c++?and hindi is my native language
[09:47] <ikonia> xtimus: maybe try #ubuntu-id
[09:47] <ceblue> wel that figures, mmx is an indian home grown model brand
[09:47] <ceblue> *modem brand
[09:47] <ikonia> xtimus: people can speak hindi and maybe help you a little better/clearer
[09:47] <xtimus>  i know english too
[09:48] <ceblue> never seen a device like that before, but now i think about it, i can see why they made it - a modem with its own flash ram to save your downloads on to, when you have to use a complete potato for a PC.
[09:49] <xtimus> can't we install apps in unbuntu from cd/dvd
[09:50] <varunendra> xtimus, what do you want to install? What is the name of the application?
[09:50] <ikonia> xtimus: you can use the ubuntu install CD as a limited software repo
[09:50] <xtimus> its just like that so help me?
[09:50] <Basilic> bekks, I think I forget auto eth1 in my config file
[09:50] <Thubo> hi there, i would like to change my default window manager using autologin. I am using 14.04 (fresh install) with lightdm. I managed to enable autologin but i cannot cange the default session (i.e I always end up in unity). Any ideas where to look?
[09:51] <xtimus> which operating system you are using?
[09:51] <ceblue> Thubo: Try looking in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:51] <ikonia> xtimus: what do you want to install ?
[09:52] <varunendra> !who | xtimus
[09:52] <Thubo> ceblue: I added the line user-session=i3 there (the script in /usr/share/xsessions/ is there) but it does not work
[09:52] <xtimus> winrar,pcsuite,c++zip,and many more!
[09:53] <Ben64> winrar and pcsuite are windows applications, and i've never heard of c++zip
[09:53] <varunendra> xtimus, none of them would install on Linux. Their Linux equivalents will, and they are available in Software Center
[09:54] <z8z> hi guys, what's the topic about?
[09:54] <z8z> compressors software for linux?
[09:54] <ikonia> z8z: ubuntu support
[09:54] <Ben64> z8z: same as always, ubuntu support
[09:55] <xtimus> all the programmes  are coded in c++ language
[09:55] <z8z> Ben64: yeah i know :D but i mean what in the specific case
[09:55] <xtimus> ikonia:and java too
[09:55] <varunendra> xtimus, all the stuff in the world is made of electrons and protons, yet some you can eat some you can't ;P
[09:55] <OerHeks> xtimus, to find Equivalent of your windows software, check linuxalt.com
[09:55] <ikonia> xtimus: use software center
[09:55] <anom> sadf
[09:56] <ceblue> xtimus: They need to be compiled for a different operating system. The librarys (like C++zip) you use to build the programs must also be modified
[09:56] <anom> Is it possible use skype through terminal? Similar too irssi.
[09:57] <xtimus> all:i have windows as well but as want to become hacker so should understand linux too
[09:57] <ceblue> anom: You can use a CLI messenger like Finch but I don't know if it can conenct to skype. It can connect to MSN, though, which I think Skyke supports?
[09:58] <anom> hmmph.
[09:58] <xtimus> except chating what you can do with linux?
[09:58] <Erik_dc> Hello, could someone please assist me to add a crown job please?
[09:59] <bekks> !cron | Erik_dc
[09:59] <Ben64> xtimus: everything
[09:59] <Erik_dc> Thanks bekks
[09:59] <Kwpolska> How do I change the horrendous tango tty1 colors to something more standard?
[10:00] <YomboCre> test
[10:00] <xtimus>  then tell me to install apps from pendrive
[10:00] <Ben64> xtimus: use the software center
[10:00] <xtimus> from pendrive
[10:01] <Ben64> xtimus: don't do that, use the software center
[10:01] <anom> Hmmph, it appears https://imo.im/register is a web skype client, under the radar atm. So it is possible to run skype without their shitty client. Hopefully someone some day adapts it for terminal. :P
[10:02] <xtimus>  i have those in pendrive then why don't to do that ?
[10:02] <Ben64> xtimus: this has already been explained to you. software center will get the necessary dependencies for whichever package you select to install
[10:02] <Kwpolska> xtimus: also, are those apps .deb files?
[10:03] <xtimus>  they are exe.
[10:03] <Kwpolska> xtimus: then you can’t install them in ubuntu
[10:04] <xtimus> ok thanks
[10:04] <GeorgesLeYeti> I'm having an issue with a ruby script. I'm suppose to convert srt to txt (for avid media)
[10:04] <GeorgesLeYeti> But i don't get why it didn't work. My file is very close to the file return by avid. The only difference i found is: Into the file return by Avid: with CRLF, CR, LF line terminators (when i made file MyFile.txt) but in my file: with CRLF, CR line terminators
[10:04] <majod> ceblue: ive reseted the bios to optimal settings and now it works. not sure which option was that, i have about 5 boot uefi-related options which i dont know what mean so i suspect one of them...maybe ultra fast boot or whatever.
[10:05] <ceblue> GeorgesLeYeti: #ruby? this is mainly net admin and end user desktop support
[10:06] <GeorgesLeYeti> ceblue: already ask their but i was thinking my problem is different from ruby
[10:06] <ikonia> GeorgesLeYeti: why would it not be a ruby problem ?
[10:06] <ikonia> GeorgesLeYeti: you're running a ruby script....and the ruby script is not working
[10:06] <xtimus> ho
[10:07] <GeorgesLeYeti> ikonia: yes it s working well but i wanna know more about changing CRLF, CR to CRLF, CR, LF
[10:08] <ikonia> GeorgesLeYeti: so then you want to change the script....
[10:08] <ceblue> GeorgesLeYeti: Is the problem that you dont wish to match the file format, or that your ruby program's output isn't matching the format you wish it to?
[10:09] <ceblue> GeorgesLeYeti: Well you get ruby to emit the correct cr/lf characters.
[10:09] <theadmin> GeorgesLeYeti: CRLF is Windows-ṣtyle, LF is UNIX-style, you can use the "dos2unix" and "unix2dos" programs to convert between the two
[10:09] <GeorgesLeYeti> ceblue: the 2nd case
[10:09] <GeorgesLeYeti> theadmin: ty
[10:09] <theadmin> GeorgesLeYeti: If it's the script's issue, then yeah, it's a Ruby problem -- make sure the strings don't have any random "\r" in it
[10:10] <simpleuser> Hi there. How to get the version installed of a package?
[10:11] <ceblue> GeorgesLeYeti: In python you could do: txt.replace ("\n", "\r\n") for example but I dont know how ruby does taht
[10:11] <theadmin> simpleuser: apt-cache show package_name | grep Installed
[10:11] <GeorgesLeYeti> ceblue: i did the same. but still missing the LF
[10:12] <theadmin> GeorgesLeYeti: Well, \n is the line feed character, so you wouldn't be missing it
[10:12] <simpleuser> Thanks theadmin ;)
[10:13] <GeorgesLeYeti> theadmin: ok
[10:13] <varunendra> theadmin, the apt-cache... | grep.. you suggested only lists the "installed-size", not the version ;)
[10:13] <theadmin> GeorgesLeYeti: Well, can I see the script? My ruby knowledge is rusty, I only played with the language for a week, but I might be able to find a problem
[10:14] <theadmin> varunendra: Bah
[10:14] <ceblue> Wow, I just looked at how Ruby does it... it's highly weird. Which does surprise me.
[10:15] <simpleuser> theadmin: Your command gives me just : "Installed-Size: 219" ;)
[10:15] <theadmin> ceblue: var.sub!("str1", "str2"), not that weird
[10:15] <GeorgesLeYeti> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f2dcc89559c2b11cc610
[10:15] <varunendra> theadmin, simpleuser I think the "dpkg -l | grep <package name> is a better way to get the installed version.
[10:16] <simpleuser> varunendra: perfect. Thanks ;)
[10:16] <varunendra> welcome :)
[10:16] <theadmin> ceblue: If that exclamation mark throws you off, it's just a naming convention: var.sub("str1", "str2") would return the string var with "str1" replaced with "str2", but var.sub! actually modifies the original variable.
[10:16] <MannerMan> I'm looking to buy some new computer components and leaning towards an AMD FX 8350 CPU, now I know that AMD video cards have bad drivers on Linux, but is there any reason not to choose an AMD cpu?
[10:17] <theadmin> MannerMan: None
[10:17] <theadmin> MannerMan: There's no CPU driver or anything ;)
[10:18] <theadmin> MannerMan: Go ahead with it, it will work just fine
[10:18] <MannerMan> theadmin: Yeah I know that, was thinking of stuff like thermal monitoring or compile times
[10:19] <ikonia> "compile times"....really
[10:19] <theadmin> MannerMan: Compile times, huh... I don't quite have any benchmarks for that at hand, but honestly you shouldn't have issues with that -- besides, it's not like one has to build stuff from source on Ubuntu often
[10:19] <MannerMan> I do programming so I do compile things from time to time =)
[10:20] <ikonia> so "from time to time" and seconds difference dictates your cpu choice ?
[10:20] <MannerMan> I guess I can safely roll AMD then =)
[10:20] <ceblue> theadmin: That doesnt work for me. Are you *sure* that works for special chars like CR/LF?
[10:21] <theadmin> ceblue: No, not really. Again, my familiarity with Ruby is *very* limited :D
[10:21] <ceblue> theadmin: it's my belief that the 'str1' in your example needs to be a regex
[10:22] <ceblue> theadmin: if 'str1' is a string, it will interpret \n as backlash and 'n' not as LF
[10:22] <theadmin> ceblue: I think I need double quotes, but regexes in Ruby are delimited with / ... /
[10:23] <theadmin> Or am I thinking Perl... anyway, this is sort of offtopic
[10:24] <ra1d3r> hi everyone
[10:25] <ra1d3r> i got a weird message while booting saying "Scanning for btrfs filesystem" then the boot process hangs. working from a live cd now
[10:26] <ra1d3r> does anyone know how to fix that ?
[10:28] <ceblue> ra1d3r: I have seen it hang there for a few minutes. of course it shouldnt - but it did recover.
[10:28] <ceblue> ra1d3r: that was on a HP ZD4000 series laptop
[10:29] <GeorgesLeYeti> theadmin: yes you need to right \n into double quote. And you right too in ruby regex are delimited with /.../
[10:29] <ceblue> so it's txt.sub (/\r\n/, "\n") ?
[10:30] <theadmin> ceblue: txt.sub!, not txt.sub. Or, well, txt = txt.sub(...)
[10:30] <ceblue> ! means in place?
[10:30] <theadmin> ceblue: Yeah
[10:31] <ceblue> i find the regex part weird, in that it defaults to regex on the left hand side.
[10:31] <ra1d3r> could the message be related to some new feature in 14.04 ?
[10:31] <ceblue> and then delimits it differently
[10:32] <ra1d3r> first i thought it might be grub related but its past the grub stage
[10:32] <ceblue> err requres, not defaults
[10:33] <nerone> ciao
[10:33] <theadmin> ceblue: Regular expressions are very powerful so why not? It looks even weirder in Perl: $txt =~ s/\r\n/\n/
[10:33] <nerone> !list
[10:33] <nerone> ciao!
[10:34] <nerone> list!
[10:34] <ceblue> i dont have a problem with regex at all, just given the choice of looking at txt = txt.sub ("\r\n", "\n") or txt!.sub(/\r\n/, "n") for the first time, i know which I prefer
[10:34] <ceblue> the fact that we've had to even discuss it in the first place, shows it's kind of non-standard
[10:37] <Taueres> heya, I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 in dual screen mode. The screen settings (like resolution and position) are not saved when I turn off the computer. I need to set them again at every boot. How can I fix this?
[10:42] <TomyLobo> trying to update kubuntu 13.10 to 14.04
[10:42] <TomyLobo> but the window isnt popping up
[10:42] <minimec> Taueres: If you use the AMD or Nvidia restricted driver, open the configuration software with 'sudo', like 'sudo nvidia-settings'.
[10:42] <TomyLobo> how can i manually start the upgrade?
[10:43] <ceblue> TomyLobo: try `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`
[10:43] <ikonia> nope, not -d
[10:43] <TomyLobo> uhm, 14.04 isnt a devel release, right?
[10:44] <ikonia> -d is doe development versoins
[10:45] <TomyLobo> ceblue ikonia it says "No new release found"
[10:45] <llusato> Hello,  I've done a new installation of ubuntu 14.04 along side Windows 8 but now Windows don't boot. I try to use boot-repair but windows does not boot neither.  boot repair returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7509369/  could you help me please?
[10:45] <ceblue> TomyLobo: if you have an LTS, 14.04 is -d until the .1 arrives
[10:45] <TomyLobo> i have 13.10
[10:45] <ikonia> you should not be using -d
[10:46] <ceblue> Try it wthout the -d then
[10:46] <ikonia> TomyLobo: you have to change the release profile to "all" or "lts" as 13.10 is a non-lts and 14.04 is an lts release
[10:46] <ikonia> !upgrade | TomyLobo
[10:46] <TomyLobo> i didnt specify -d
[10:46] <TomyLobo> those are for ubuntu, not kubuntu
[10:46] <ikonia> the process is the same for kubuntu
[10:46] <TomyLobo> nope
[10:47] <TomyLobo> i dont have the same tools
[10:47] <ceblue> it cant be the same, for ubuntu it would have worked
[10:47] <TomyLobo> for instance, i have muon, ubuntu has synaptic or whatever it's called
[10:47] <ceblue> but that *should* work in kubuntu
[10:47] <theadmin> TomyLobo: "do-release-upgrade" is command line, it works on all distros
[10:47] <TomyLobo> sure
[10:47] <TomyLobo> but it says there is no update
[10:48] <theadmin> (or rather on all Ubuntu derivatives)
[10:48] <ceblue> is kubuntu 14.04 out yet?
[10:48] <ceblue> if not, you cant upgrade as your 13.10 is the newest
[10:49] <ceblue> unless you go to ubuntu
[10:49] <Taueres> minimec: I'm using the driver that came with Ubuntu: [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]
[10:49] <theadmin> They release at the same time, it's been out for a while now
[10:50] <dupingping> Hi
[10:50] <dupingping> everybody/
[10:51] <llusato> is anyone out there?
[10:51] <llusato> I have a question:
[10:51] <llusato> Hello,  I've done a new installation of ubuntu 14.04 along side Windows 8 but now Windows don't boot. I try to use boot-repair but windows does not boot neither.  boot repair returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7509369/  could you help me please?
[10:51] <TomyLobo> ceblue well, since i can (almost?) turn a ubuntu into a kubuntu using just the package manager, i dont think the difference matters
[10:51] <dupingping> why I could not print with hplip? It is detected printer's model. But It don't exactly printing.
[10:55] <minimec> Taueres: Ok. So using the 'radeon' driver, you should be able to just plug the device. The xserver should handle the rest. Can you do 'lshw -c video | grep driver' (ignore error message). What driver is in use (just to be sure)?
[10:58] <Taueres> minimec: configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
[10:58] <u-ou> does ubuntu come with java installed already
[10:58] <TomyLobo> there, found it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[10:58] <theadmin> u-ou: No, click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/icedtea-7-plugin
[10:59] <u-ou> ok thank
[10:59] <ceblue> u-ou: Don't remmeber but the JRE is in the software centre.
[11:00] <TomyLobo> great, those screenshots are from the 13.04->13.10 upgrade process
[11:01] <TomyLobo> ...and what it says there doesnt work...
[11:01] <TomyLobo> hmm, i didnt relogin since i fixed my proxy settings
[11:01] <TomyLobo> lemme try that
[11:03] <minimec> Taueres: Ok. So in my opinion, once you have set your configuration, it should be applied automatically once the screen is plugged. In my case (Dual Screen) I have to load 'gnome-settings-daemon' after user login, because I don't use the standard ubuntu unity WindowManager. I use e17.
[11:04] <TomyLobo> ok, that worked
[11:04] <llusato> Hello anyone can help me?
[11:05] <TomyLobo> llusato sorry, no clairvoyance here
[11:05] <llusato> so you can not help me?
[11:05] <TomyLobo> oh you already asked your question earlier
[11:06] <llusato> yes
[11:06] <TomyLobo> well, you cant expect more answers with less information
[11:07] <TomyLobo> so ask again and remember to add new information you got in the meantime
[11:07] <llusato> Hello,  I've done a new installation of ubuntu 14.04 along side Windows 8 but now Windows don't boot. I try to use boot-repair but windows does not boot neither.  boot repair returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7509369/  could you help me please?
[11:07] <llusato> here is my question
[11:09] <llusato> I try to boot in windows but grub crashes and appers like a commnad line
[11:09] <llusato> this is why i tried to fix with grub-repair with no success
[11:10] <llusato> I attach tha paste of grub-repair
[11:10] <OerHeks> llusato, do you use bitlocker in windows 8?
[11:11] <llusato> I don't remember I have almonst not used it
[11:11] <llusato> it was the oem windows 8 from dell the preinstalled in my laptop
[11:11] <TomyLobo> what's this with kubuntu updates removing kdm? i like my kdm thank you very much dont remove it on every distribution upgrade
[11:12] <Beldar> llusato, I would post that url here, much better help and focused on this area. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[11:12] <TomyLobo> would be nice if they at least provided a reason to switch to lightdm and not just force it
[11:14] <llusato> I've already done it but not answer by now
[11:14] <Beldar> llusato, use nicks here, the responses there are US daytime by and large, link to it?
[11:16] <Beldar> llusato, Only one hour ago, you will get answers during the day.
[11:16] <llusato> ok thanks Beldar I'll have to wait so
[11:16] <llusato> many thanks! :)
[11:17] <llusato> Beldar, thanks
[11:17] <Beldar> llusato, No problem oldfred the mod above your post is your guru, I nnow I used to be on that forum
[11:17] <Beldar> know*
[11:17] <llusato> ok bye
[11:19] <JustSighDudes> Just started reading about xen. I'm kind of confused. Is my ubuntu  dom0 usable? Or does it just act like a host and if I needed to use ubuntu I have to/should install a guest?
[11:21] <Beldar> JustSighDudes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[11:32] <jackarg> what is the package to install for a missing "libSDL2-2.0.so.0" ?
[11:32] <jackarg> i never know
[11:33] <wols> jackarg: packages.ubuntu.com knows
[11:33] <theadmin> !find libSDL2-2.0.so.0
[11:33] <theadmin> jackarg: ^
[11:33] <jackarg> ah great. How do I do this outside of here?
[11:34] <theadmin> jackarg: apt-file find "filename"
[11:34] <wols> jackarg: or packages.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <jackarg> got it thanks
[11:35] <jackarg> also, is there a good clipboard extension?
[11:36] <jackarg> to go back to my previous copies?
[11:37] <jackarg> !find libSDL2_image-2.0.so.0
[11:39] <jackarg> !find libcurl-gnutls.so.4
[11:39] <theadmin> jackarg: Please talk to the bot in PM if you want to find something for yourself
[11:40] <resno> i have the Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML video card installed, how can i find the drivers for it?
[11:40] <theadmin> resno: Shouldn't need to, they are built-in
[11:41] <Beldar> resno, same set here they are installede.
[11:41] <resno> so heres my use cases
[11:41] <sliddjur> Is there a way to increase "big text" in accessability options? Its not enough for me... I have PC connected to TV and I can't read text even though its increased.. :(
[11:42] <resno> i basically want to use xbmc to boot directly. and i originally want to not have full desktop environment
[11:42] <resno> so im trying to manually figure out the video driver
[11:43] <theadmin> resno: Just install XBMC, select it as your session and configure autologin... or go with XBMCbuntu
[11:43] <resno> so should i just go regular desktop then?
[11:43] <Hemant> hello
[11:43] <resno> is what your suggesting theadmin
[11:44] <theadmin> resno: No, you can boot directly to XBMC, it will be fine (again, all you need is to configure automatic login to the XBMC session)
[11:44] <Guest46676> help
[11:45] <Beldar> Guest46676, Not a good start, state the issue.
[11:45] <Guest46676> i cant download apps from softwarecenter   plz help
[11:45] <Beldar> Guest46676 try apt-get
[11:46] <resno> Guest46676: are you getting error messge?
[11:46] <Guest46676> yes i'm using wifi network , throgh the cyberom client
[11:47] <Guest46676> i cant update  using terminal also
[11:48] <Beldar> !details | Guest46676 I can't means nothing
[11:49] <Beldar> Guest46676, pastebin your apt-get update all the info.
[11:49] <Beldar> !pastebin | Guest46676
[11:50] <Guest46676> ok
[11:50] <Guest46676> i will try
[11:51] <Guest46676> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:51] <Guest46676> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[11:52] <Beldar> Guest46676, Did you stop an install while running?
[11:52] <Beldar> Guest46676, Is the software center closed?
[11:52] <Guest46676> no bt  i think my wifi is block somthing ..
[11:53] <Beldar> Guest46676, THat is not a wifi block.
[11:53] <Akishona> hi. how can i dump into file the errors that appears when i start my firewall?
[11:53] <jackarg> sorry, how do you PM the bot?
[11:55] <Fuchs> jackarg: just use a  /query   or   /msg  botname your message here
[11:56] <KGM70> G'Day
[11:57] <Guest46676> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:57] <Guest46676> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[11:57] <Guest46676> plz help
[11:58] <bekks> Guest46676: Forgot to use sudo?
[11:58] <Fuchs> Guest46676:  1) does that lockfile already exist? If yes: do you have another process open for apt?  2) if not: do you have the needed priviledges, e.g. are you using sudo?
[11:58] <OerHeks> !aptlock
[11:59] <Guest46676> ys
[11:59] <Guest46676> xman@xman-K55VD:~$ sudo apt-get update
[11:59] <Guest46676> [sudo] password for xman:
[11:59] <Guest46676> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:59] <Guest46676> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[12:00] <KGM70> !aptfix | Guest46676,
[12:00] <OerHeks> Do you have softwarecenter open, when performing this terminal command?
[12:03] <jackarg> I don't get it. I'm trying to install the p11-kit-modules package and it says I need "libtasn1.6 (>= 3.4-0)". I installed libtasn1-6_3.3-2 and the p11 is still not satisfied, What package do I need?
[12:04] <Guest46676> same error
[12:04] <bekks> jackarg: 3.4 is larger than 3.3-2
[12:04] <Guest46676> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:04] <Guest46676> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[12:04] <Beldar> Guest46676, Is english an easy language for you?
[12:04] <jackarg> ok yes, but where do I get the file I need?
[12:05] <Guest46676> yes beldar
[12:05] <jackarg> bekks is it an earlier version?
[12:05] <bekks> jackarg: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:05] <KGM70> Guest46676, are you reading and following the responses to your posts?
[12:05] <bekks> jackarg: 3.3-2 is older than the required 3.4
[12:05] <Beldar> Guest46676, Cool, you have had numerous questions, you might answer them.
[12:05] <Guest46676> yes
[12:06] <Guest46676> please help me
[12:06] <KGM70> yes what?
[12:06] <Guest46676> #belder i cant send screen shoot to u
[12:08] <KGM70> we gave you a command to enter in the terminal, Guest46676, did you run it?
[12:08] <Beldar> Guest46676, try here, #ubuntu-in
[12:08] <jackarg> bekks, I did both updates and it still isn't satisfied
[12:08] <Beldar> Guest46676, YOU are in India right?
[12:08] <bekks> jackarg: so wich software are you trying to instal on which ubuntu?
[12:08] <Guest46676> ok
[12:09] <Beldar> sorry caps stick
[12:10] <jackarg> bekks So I'm trying to get the Witcher 2 working after getting p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:10] <jackarg> I'm on mint 16
[12:10] <Ben64> !mint | jackarg
[12:10] <jackarg> it's similar enough to ubuntu
[12:10] <bekks> !mint | jackarg
[12:10] <Ben64> not enough for this channel
[12:10] <jackarg> how different is it really?
[12:11] <bekks> jackarg: It is different enough to be not supported in here. Please sseek the Mint support.
[12:11] <jackarg> there are much less people on the other
[12:11] <LjL-Laplet> 80/100 different
[12:11] <Ben64> well its not called ubuntu
[12:11] <trndr> jackarg, no it's not since libtasn1.6 is version 3.4-3 in ubuntu
[12:11] <Unknown0BC> Hello guys, i'm puzzled by this, I have this package listed in my software center, but when trying to install it I get a file not found error:
[12:12] <Unknown0BC> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxml2/libxml2-dev_2.8.0+dfsg1-5ubuntu2.4_amd64.deb 404  Not
[12:12] <bekks> Unknown0BC: did you run sudo apt-get update before?
[12:12] <Unknown0BC> bekks, perhaps I should give that a go :)
[12:20] <luc4> Hello! I installed ubuntu on a new pc and I’m experiencing an issue with the sound. It seems that after boot, frequently a terrible noise comes out. The noise goes away after some minutes. Any idea what this may be related to?
[12:22] <Unknown0BC> luc4, thats new.
[12:23] <luc4> Unknown0BC: it seems that I just made it go away...
[12:23]  * Unknown0BC looks at luc4 with wide eyes
[12:23] <luc4> Unknown0BC: I had to modify loopback mixing from alsamixer.
[12:23] <Unknown0BC> good !
[12:23] <Unknown0BC> :)
[12:24] <luc4> Unknown0BC: bad… it probably means there is a bug somewhere...
[12:24] <Unknown0BC> ah
[12:24] <luc4> Unknown0BC: and also I get no audio at all that way.
[12:24] <Unknown0BC> bug always creep in.
[12:24] <Unknown0BC> Its a sad state humanity faces.
[12:25] <Unknown0BC> but there are always bug killers. so
[12:25] <Beldar> luc4, this happen in the guest account or a live cd?
[12:25]  * Unknown0BC frowns
[12:25] <luc4> Beldar: no, in a normal installation.
[12:25] <Beldar> Unknown0BC, Dude you are hardly helping.
[12:26] <Beldar> luc4, What does that tell you, you have mis configured the main account
[12:26] <luc4> Beldar: maybe the driver… this is an Intel PCH
[12:26] <luc4> Beldar: misconfigured?
[12:27] <Beldar> luc4, If the guest does not do this, which is the same as your account without admin and a live does not do this, then something is wrong in your account.
[12:27] <Beldar> which was the same anyway
[12:27] <luc4> Beldar: I never said anything like that...
[12:28] <luc4> Beldar: I said I’m on a normal installation logged in my usual user.
[12:28] <luc4> Beldar: never said anything related to a live cd or whatever other account.
[12:28] <Beldar> luc4, Than clearly answer the question. you said "<luc4> Beldar: no, in a normal installation."
[12:28] <shadowe989> luc4: lspci -vvv and let me know what driver and exact chipset it is.
[12:29] <shadowe989> luc4: if i can't help at least the proper info is out there for others. if you need help reading the results let me know.
[12:29] <luc4> Beldar: no, I just meant that it happens in there. I don’t know for the other situations.
[12:29] <Beldar> luc4, Than try thew guest and a live cd
[12:29] <Beldar> the*
[12:29] <luc4> Beldar: I simply don’t have that information.
[12:29] <Beldar> you can
[12:31] <king03> !find libcurl-gnutls.so.4
[12:32] <Unknown0BC> cool
[12:35] <shadowe989> luc4: is your computer premade or did you buy it yourself? some brands require certain settings checked. (Like my laptop but for other reasons)
[12:35] <shadowe989> luc4: build*
[12:36] <luc4> shadowe989: sorry, what do you mean by “premade”?
[12:36] <shadowe989> luc4: dell, ibm, etc workstation / laptop
[12:37] <pac1> anyone successful running jslint on ubuntu?  I've tried installing it via npm but I get Cannot find module 'readable-stream' when I run jslint.
[12:37] <luc4> shadowe989: it is a Toshiba laptop.
[12:37] <Beldar> !info jslint
[12:38] <shadowe989> luc4: sec
[12:40] <Beldar> pac1, What ubuntu release are you using?
[12:40] <shadowe989> luc4: can you run lspci in a terminal and tell me what sound card / chip you're running? it will display all of your devices. exact model matters.
[12:40] <pac1> 14.04 64
[12:41] <pac1> I found the problem.  There were some very bad instructions on the net for how to install via npm.  It involve setting an alias in bashrc. that just wasn't right.  The solution was to remove the alias.  It was not needed.
[12:41] <Beldar> pac1, It's not in the repos you might ask there community.
[12:41] <Beldar> their*
[12:41] <luc4> shadowe989: sure: Intel Corporation 8 series/C220 Series chipset high definition audio controller
[12:42] <pac1> It's not in the repos, but you just install node and then use npm to install jslint.
[12:42] <shadowe989> luc4 ty sec
[12:42] <pac1> works as described in many places.
[12:42] <Beldar> pac1, both 3rd party right?
[12:42] <luc4> shadowe989: kernel driver used is snd_hda_intel
[12:42] <Unknown0BC> Hey Beldar, the apt-get update did the 'trick'.
[12:42] <Unknown0BC> ty
[12:42] <Unknown0BC> :)
[12:43] <Beldar> someone else gave you that
[12:43] <Unknown0BC> OH it was bekks
[12:43] <luc4> shadowe989: actually I logged out of my user and it stopped. Got back and everything works correctly now. Interesting.
[12:43] <Unknown0BC> ty bekks
[12:43] <Unknown0BC> ( sorry ) beldar
[12:44] <Beldar> Unknown0BC, Just wanted the deserving thanked. ;)
[12:45] <Unknown0BC> good
[12:45] <Unknown0BC> :)
[12:54] <shadowe989> luc4: glad to hear! :)
[12:59] <luc4> shadowe989: but everytime it reboots this happens again. That is a point...
[12:59] <digi0ps> Hey. What does the "Always On The Top" option mean?
[13:00] <OerHeks> digi0ps, that keeps the window on top
[13:00] <OerHeks> * of other windows
[13:01] <digi0ps> OerHeks, Oh thanks :)
[13:01] <pdo_fn14> I still confusing about how to get worked with lazarus and pdf editor in here?.
[13:02] <OerHeks> digi0ps, i use that for VLC when i watch a movie during irc chat
[13:02] <digi0ps> Oh. That option is great for watching movie! :D
[13:03] <pdo_fn14> For lazarus issue, I need to run lazarus but my fpc always getting fpc incompatible arch.
[13:04] <pity> Hi, guys. I have a .curlrc file, with -w "code: %{http_code}\nip: %{remote_ip}\n", I want seperate
[13:04] <pity> Hi, guys. I have a .curlrc file, with -w "code: %{http_code}\nip: %{remote_ip}\n", I want seperate
[13:04] <pdo_fn14> And still lacks of pdf editor in here. :/
[13:05] <digi0ps> OerHerks, A lil help pls. Can you tell me a guide to learn all about linux ( and ubuntu ) ... How it works, Kernels, Commands and shells! Can you please tell me one?
[13:05] <digi0ps> OerHeks,
[13:05] <Beldar> pdo_fn14, Pdf's are a strange lot of code and text, they are not all the same, linux has not really focused on this probably.
[13:06] <pity> Hi, guys. I have a .curlrc file, with -w "code: %{http_code}\nip: %{remote_ip}\n", I want seperate -w "code: %{http_code}\nip: %{remote_ip}\n" into 2 lines, but it doesn't work. Anyone knows how?
[13:06] <OerHeks> digi0ps, this is not the learn-me-all channel, good start is the ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:07] <digi0ps> Yeah i asked like this only. I didnt ask someone to teach in this channel itself ;) ... Thanks btw OerHeks:
[13:07] <pdo_fn14> Beldar: Need to using Libre Draw actually hah, it's so hard.
[13:08] <dgdna> hi all
[13:09] <OerHeks> digi0ps, for single issues you are always welcome here, don't get me wrong :-)
[13:09] <pdo_fn14> I getting issue with lazarus. Using i386 arch, but I think that not point of problems.
[13:10] <digi0ps> OerHeks, Haha. Sorry to bother you, I am just new to Linux! :/
[13:15] <digi0ps> Any site for following the latest news on Linux?
[13:17] <Pessimist> digi0ps: lwn
[13:17] <pity> Hi, guys. I have a .curlrc file, with -w "code: %{http_code}\nip: %{remote_ip}\n", I want seperate -w "code: %{http_code}\nip: %{remote_ip}\n" into 2 lines, but it doesn't work. Anyone knows how?
[13:17] <digi0ps> Pessimist, Thanks
[13:28] <xubuntu> Ciao
[13:28] <Guest88300> Qualcuno italiano?
[13:28] <Guest88300> Qualcuno italiano?
[13:29] <DJones> !it | Guest88300
[13:34] <netg00r00> kserv idnetify 23231
[13:34] <netg00r00> kserv identify 23231
[13:34] <netg00r00> nickserv identify 23231
[13:45] <Ilyes512> I just deleted a user's password that I use to ssh into my vps using passwd -f username
[13:46] <Ilyes512> Now when I try to open a second connection it still asks me for my password (i reload the ssh service)
[13:46] <Ilyes512> Anyone know how I can succesfully delete the password so I can ssh using only my key file?
[13:48] <Zooklubba> With weechat and gnome-terminal, I never get any sound with terminal bell. Running 14.04, no idea why not
[13:48] <Guest78391> do you wanna do something like this https://blogs.oracle.com/jkini/entry/how_to_scp_scp_and
[13:51] <ziyourenxiang> Ilyes512: try ssh -v and see what authentication methods ssh is trying
[13:53] <Ilyes512> ziyourenxiang "Authentications that can continue: publickey,password"
[13:54] <Ilyes512> it end with Next authentication method: password
[13:54] <ziyourenxiang> so if it is asking you for password, means your key-based login isn’t set up properly
[13:54] <Ilyes512> after wish it asks me for my password
[13:55] <bekks> ziyourenxiang: Which is not true. For safety reasons, the key should be protected by a password.
[13:55] <ziyourenxiang> ??
[13:55] <Ilyes512> at the moment my key has no passfrase
[13:55] <ziyourenxiang> bekks: he is talking about his server
[13:56] <Ilyes512> i am going to replace that but I thought in the mean time I could still use my old one to test it out
[13:56] <bekks> ziyourenxiang: a key should be protected by a passphrase - so you will be asked for a password even when using publickey auth.
[13:56] <Ilyes512> I know how to create a new key. Just I never had to put it on the server my self (vps is on digital oceon).
[13:57] <ziyourenxiang> Ilyes512: if your public key is not on your server, you can’t do key-based login
[13:58] <Ilyes512> yes I know. But digital ocean should have taken care of it. FYI I used to be able to log in normally until I deleted the users password
[13:58] <Ilyes512> I always believed however I was login in with both the key and the users password :S
[13:58] <bekks> Ilyes512: So YOU messed that up, not Digital Ocean. ;)
[13:58] <ziyourenxiang> bekks: actually for what you’re talking about, you should use ssh-agent
[13:59] <Ilyes512> no i am not blaming digital oceon!
[13:59] <bekks> "But digital ocean should have taken care of it."
[13:59] <bekks> Ilyes512: However, are you still logged in on your server somehow?
[14:00] <Ilyes512> in response to "	 so if it is asking you for password, means your key-based login isn’t set up properly" so my key is on the server already. Just dont know where it is.
[14:00] <Ilyes512> I want to put in a new one then
[14:00] <Cakenaut> My computer seems to be reluctant to run shellscript programs. I can't run Tor or the installer of a new graphics driver.
[14:00] <Ilyes512> yes! I tried connecting to my server again in a tab so I still got 1 tab thats logged in
[14:01] <Ilyes512> so I want to generate a new key with passfrase and load that up.
[14:01] <Ilyes512> just dont know the location of the keys on ubuntu
[14:02] <Ilyes512> shouldnt that be in /home/username/.ssh?
[14:02] <trndr> Ilyes512, ~/.ssh/
[14:03] <bekks> Ilyes512: It does NOT mean your key is on the server already.
[14:03] <Ilyes512> yes i dont see any :S. I must say I am not logge in as root but as a user i created after and given sudo rights
[14:03] <bekks> Ilyes512: So look at ~/.ssh/
[14:03] <ziyourenxiang> you have to copy your public key from your client computer to your server
[14:04] <ziyourenxiang> suppose you generated a DSA keypair, then the file by default is id_dsa.pub in your client computer’s ~/.ssh
[14:04] <bekks> Ilyes512: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html#openssh-keys
[14:04] <Ilyes512> i always used this for generating keys: https://help.github.com/articles/generating-ssh-keys
[14:04] <bekks> ziyourenxiang: Which is not enough. The content of id_dsa.pub has to be appended to authorized_keys.
[14:05] <bekks> ziyourenxiang: All this is done by ssh-copy-id
[14:05] <Ilyes512> but hmm strange. Could it be that "sudo passwd -d username" also deletes the .ssh?
[14:05] <ziyourenxiang> bekks: save it. i’m trying to explain to the guy step by step. you don’t have to explain to me.
[14:05] <bekks> Ilyes512: No.
[14:05] <Ilyes512> ah i see
[14:05] <bekks> ziyourenxiang: The only step he needs to know is ssh-copy-id
[14:06] <ziyourenxiang> provided he has copied his public key over
[14:06] <Ilyes512> yes i am gona copy it over now. could I name it as i want?
[14:06] <bekks> ssh-copy-id doesnt copy the key automagically.
[14:06] <Ilyes512> with .pub extension?
[14:06] <ziyourenxiang> so that’s *two* steps
[14:07] <bekks> ziyourenxiang: "ssh-copy-id user@remotehost" is ONE step. Did you ever use ssh-copy-id?
[14:08] <Ilyes512> I have the key copied from my key on my mac
[14:08] <Ilyes512> i just created ~/.ssh
[14:08] <ziyourenxiang> is that a ubuntu-ism or a linux-ism?
[14:08] <Ilyes512> but how should I name the file?
[14:08] <ianorlin> you make the key with ssh-keygen
[14:08] <bekks> ziyourenxiang: It is a openssh-ism.
[14:09] <ziyourenxiang> not on my osx
[14:09] <JustSighDudes> If I have the full ubuntu installer image. How can I get the minimal install
[14:09] <bekks> Ilyes512: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[14:09] <Nach0z> JustSighDudes: you'll need to uninstall a buttload of packages
[14:10] <DJones> !minimal | JustSighDudes You;ll need to download a different installer,
[14:10] <bekks> JustSighDudes: Uninstall all packages you dont need.
[14:10] <JustSighDudes> Argh
[14:10] <JustSighDudes> Can't make this installer give me minimal?
[14:10] <tony75> !ciao
[14:10] <tony75> !list
[14:10] <Cakenaut> Um everytime I try to execute a shellscript file I get 'WARNING **: Unable to find device for URI: Containing mount does not exist' in the Terminal. Does anyone know what's doing this?
[14:10] <Ilyes512> bekk I dont need to generate the key... i already got one. Just dont know the next step. I am still logged in on the vps so I got acces to create any files inside ~/.ssh
[14:11] <ziyourenxiang> ok, on my freebsd 10.
[14:11] <ziyourenxiang> osx’s ssh is old.
[14:12] <rharish> hello all. I need some help with fixing my grub. I upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and I'm now lead to a grub rescue screen.
[14:12] <rharish> I've tried this so far
[14:12] <Beldar> !mini | JustSighDudes
[14:13] <Beldar> JustSighDudes, I missed this link was posted, you need the mini to do a minimal install.
[14:15] <rharish> http://askubuntu.com/questions/449680/upgrading-from-13-10-to-14-04-broke-grub
[14:15] <rharish> sorry about that
[14:15] <bekks> Ilyes512: Then read the article given and omit the step of generating a new key.
[14:15] <Beldar> rharish, Ubuntu the only OS, any other, if so what is it?
[14:16] <ziyourenxiang> Ilyes512: what OS  are you running on your client?
[14:16] <Ilyes512> I am on a macbook osx and my vps is ubuntu 1404
[14:17] <Ilyes512> latest version of osx 10.9.3 if that mathers
[14:17] <rharish> Beldar: it's kubuntu btw, and windows 8
[14:17] <ndy> a question i want install kubuntu in place of ubuntu i mean over ubuntu how to do it
[14:17] <Beldar> rharish, try this app, and save the bootinfo summaries's url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:17] <bekks> Ilyes512: It doesnt matter at all.
[14:18] <bekks> Ilyes512: Read section 4, 5 and 6 of the article given please.
[14:18] <Zooklubba> Terminal bell in gnome-terminal isn't working. 14.04, I have used my google-fu but failed. Request some expertise in the matter.
[14:18] <icecream> is there a ports system for Ubuntu
[14:18] <Ilyes512> ok
[14:18] <rharish> oh yes, I tried it. It used to work all the time but not this time. I'll send the boot summary if you want Beldar
[14:18] <bekks> icecream: No such thing is needed in Ubuntu.
[14:19] <bekks> icecream: The official repos contain more than 30k packages.
[14:20] <ndy> how to uninstall ubuntu and install  kubuntu
[14:20] <Beldar> rharish, I'm not up on uefi, so not much help, post it here be sure it is up to date. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[14:21] <bekks> ndy: You dont need to uninstall Ubuntu. Just run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:22] <ndy> bekks actually my ubuntu not makin sounds i want to give try to whole new kubuntu i got iso
[14:22] <Ilyes512> just one thing... what is preferable, a rsa or dsa key?
[14:22] <ndy> bekks i have live pendrive kubuntu but i want to install it over ubuntu
[14:22] <ziyourenxiang> Ilyes512: osx does not have ssh-copy-id, so you have to scp your public key file to your server using password authentication
[14:22] <Ilyes512> quick goole says rs is prob better
[14:22] <bekks> ndy: kubuntu will not change that behaviour.
[14:23] <Ilyes512> ziyourenxiang I am still logged in on the vps so I can add it manually
[14:23] <bekks> Ilyes512: quick google is wrong. rsa is considered to be unsafe nowadays.
[14:23] <Ilyes512> dsa seems to be almost the same as rsa 1024? Thats why I made my conclusion. Is it using another algo? But anyways so DSA is better
[14:24] <Ilyes512> ?
[14:24] <ndy> bekks i know its all my fault i want to chek kubuntu later
[14:24] <bekks> Ilyes512: How about starting to read section 4-6 now? ;)
[14:24] <ndy> bekks how to uninstall ubuntu
[14:24] <ziyourenxiang> Ilyes512: yeah you can copy/paste from your osx terminal window to your ubuntu server window.
[14:24] <bekks> ndy: you dont uninstall it.
[14:25] <bekks> ndy: you just reformat the filesystem(s) and install whatever you want.
[14:25] <Ilyes512> bekks I must have missed yours.. i got 3 links but I dont see any section numbered?
[14:25] <bekks> Ilyes512: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[14:25] <ndy> bekks thanx so you sayin format filesystem from windows and then install kubuntu?
[14:26] <bekks> ndy: No. Just install Kubuntu.
[14:26] <Ilyes512> oh thats the one i am ready lol :P And the numbers are on the overview thing, i see *oeps*
[14:26] <ndy> bekks it doesnt show option to format when im instaling kubuntu
[14:27] <bekks> ndy: you dont have to do that.
[14:27] <ndy> bekks what?
[14:27] <bekks> ndy: Just select the filesystem(s) where you want to install kubuntu.
[14:27] <Ilyes512> bekks that article recommands RSA :/ ah well I will just use RSA 4048 with a passfrase
[14:28] <Beldar> ndy, bekks is pointing you to the manual install, the something other option.
[14:28] <ndy> bekks okhay but it is installing along side with ubuntu
[14:28] <bekks> ndy: It is if you selected to install along side with Ubuntu.
[14:29] <ianorlin> would that create two swaps though?
[14:29] <bekks> Ilyes512: And section 4-6 do not recommand any key, but they explain on how to use that key.
[14:30] <gre-> heya
[14:30] <ndy> bekks along side with ubuntu etc option are not there during installation step all it was showin partion
[14:30] <gre-> is it possible to add an icon/shortcut on the desktop to a website pls?
[14:31] <bekks> ndy: So partition your disk as you want it.
[14:31] <gre-> on 12.04 there was "create a launcher"
[14:31] <gre-> on 14.04 i can't find this setting anymore
[14:31] <ndy> bekks i want it over ubuntu not along side :)
[14:31] <gre-> (unity)
[14:31] <bekks> ndy: So partition that way.
[14:32] <gre-> anyone?
[14:32] <ndy> bekks im going with formating ubuntu partion from windows and installin kubuntu from live usb
[14:33] <bekks> ndy: Whih is wrong.
[14:33] <ndy> bekks y
[14:33] <gre-> :/
[14:33] <bekks> ndy: you cannot install *ubuntu on windows formatted filesystems, so omit that step entirely, as I told you three times now.
[14:34] <ianorlin> you can use gparted on a live usb
[14:34] <gre-> answer me instead, i swear you should have to tell me something 3 times ;)
[14:34] <gre-> should not
[14:34] <gre-> (tired)
[14:34] <ndy> bekks thanx last question wt should i do
[14:34] <bekks> ndy: I told you in a very detail.
[14:35] <ndy> bekks wt if i install kubuntu and format ubuntu
[14:35] <bekks> ndy: I told you in a very detail.
[14:35] <ndy> bekks thanx fella:)
[14:38] <meken> Hi y'all. Does anyone know a way to fire off a shell command when focus shifts from the window of one application to another?
[14:39] <motaka2> hello I am trying to share a folder in ubuntu and I get this error:  'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission deniedYou do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
[14:41] <googolhash> try it with sudo?
[14:45] <k1l_> no, dont run everything with sudo just because there is a error. are you in the sambashare group?
[14:50] <MasterOfDisaster> *hrhr* sudo make me a sandwich :-)
[14:51] <khax> fuq dat shiiit
[14:51] <bekks> !language | khax
[14:52] <IamEld3st> hi
[14:52] <khax> hi
[14:53] <IamEld3st> i am confused about proftpd setup and how i can acces though it /var/www/html
[14:53] <IamEld3st> need help about that
[14:54] <gre-> damn i need a simple thing, just adding an ircon/shortcut on desktop (to open a website), im on freenode, on the main #ubuntu channel and nobody can answer me that easy question? wtf ? :/
[14:54] <gre-> s/ircon/icon
[14:55] <bekks> gre-: We just hoped you would find this answer, too, within 10s: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67925/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-in-unity
[14:55] <IamEld3st> do some body know how to help me with proftpd?
[14:56] <bekks> IamEld3st: Which specific error do you have?
[14:56] <holstein> IamEld3st: you are likely just trying to edit the html file there? or upload yours?
[14:56] <holstein> IamEld3st: you can use *any* ftp client, if thats what the host is running.. if not, i suggest ssh
[14:56] <holstein> !ssh
[14:56] <holstein> if you are "stuck" with ftp.
[14:56] <holstein> !ftp
[14:56] <IamEld3st> i cant delete/edit/upload
[14:56] <IamEld3st> and btw i adm the hoster
[14:57] <IamEld3st> but at the moment dont have direct acces to server
[14:57] <gre-> no sorry bekks, i was talking about a website shortcut on desktop
[14:57] <luke_> hey people, anyone else ever had problems when running backtrack (i know its not ubuntu but you lot seem available) through a VM and the taskbar goes weird and for instance, the clock is currently taking up half the screen and i can't see any programs i have open. I cant even drag anything back which just seems stupid, its not even locked.
[14:57] <holstein> IamEld3st: you dont have permission, in that directory.. so, what i do is, just upload, and then mv as sudo on the host.. but, there are many ways to do it
[14:57] <gre-> not an application shortcut
[14:57] <gre-> thats not the same easy way
[14:57] <bekks> gre-: which is the same, technically.
[14:57] <holstein> !sudo | IamEld3st
[14:57] <gre-> sure? ok, im going to try again
[14:57] <bekks> !backtrack | luke_
[14:58] <holstein> IamEld3st: i suggest, on the host.. sudo nano /path/to/file.html and make a change, so you see that you can..
[14:58] <IamEld3st> -_- i know how to get files in there but i just want to upload easier than uploading *.tar.gz file then downloading it unzipping there
[14:58] <xeno> In self-answer to my query last night on ftp:  I did find and try out something that is nicely programmable, when the ftp site allows it to work: curlftpfs
[14:58] <luke_> well okay then, cheers. have a good night y'all
[14:59] <holstein> IamEld3st: sure.. do *all* of that to another location.. where you will have permission.. then, sudo mv server side
[14:59] <holstein> xeno: how did lftp work?
[14:59] <xeno> This literally mounts your ftp site on a locally accessable file system:  curlftpfs -o nonempty ftp://ftp.mirror.nl tmp worked for me for instance.  Really nice.
[15:00] <xeno> lftp is fine, but it did not solve my problem, and I kept looking.
[15:00] <bekks> xeno: USe sshfs instead of curlftpfs
[15:00] <holstein> xeno: as long as you are satisfied.. enjoy.. im not clear that you ever had a problem, but a specific and unique need..
[15:00] <xeno> It appears this NT ftp site is configured just not to work at all with filezilla, and to allow none but the very simples of basic ftp activities in active mode only.
[15:01] <bekks> xeno: you cannot configure a ftp site to not work with filezilla.
[15:01] <holstein> bekks: apparently, xeno cant do ssh..
[15:01] <xeno> Perhaps but part of my problem is this system is only available in ftp mode.
[15:01] <bekks> holstein: time for a new hoster then :)
[15:01] <xeno> So I was looking for things that worked with ftp when ssh was absent.
[15:01] <holstein> bekks: thats what i thought..
[15:01] <holstein> xeno: i havent found anything that *doesnt* work with ftp.. and think you have more of an issue server-side..
[15:02] <xeno> Well, bekks, I really would give you a crack at it, but it's a private matter, and I have no rights to provide access to others.
[15:02] <holstein> i didnt see where anyone asked for access, xeno
[15:03] <xeno> Well, I found that curlftpfs, for instance got a 503 error at the server I am referring to.
[15:03] <holstein> xeno: you *should* be using ssh instead of ftp, though.. and if the host is not providing that, they are not a viable host
[15:03] <xeno> I also noticed that curlftpfs wasn't able to even access some other ftp sites, so there appear to be ftp sites with odd behaviors or restrictions.
[15:03] <Guest78391> does anybody use tmux mutt and the solarized colors?
[15:03] <Guest78391> I have there a problem
[15:04] <xeno> holstein, that is what I have been trying, as politely as possible, to explain to my client, who has been doing it this way for 15 years.
[15:04] <xeno> Oh, yes, this is not an anonymous ftp, so curlftpfs may not work anyway.
[15:05] <holstein> xeno: anonymous is not the issue, as im sure you know
[15:05] <Guest78391> I see some strange colors when starting mutt with tmux
[15:05] <xeno> But at any rate, I was really impressed with the functionality of curlftpfs.  I think it's a neat tool.
[15:05] <Guest78391> in particular the color of the mails change when I move the courser over them
[15:06] <xeno> Probably not, but I was tired last night, and forgot to check those parts of the function.
[15:07] <xeno> Okay, curlftpfs does have a user= option.
[15:07] <xeno> I haven't tested it though, as this conversation implies.
[15:07] <xeno> Gotta go make coffee.  Best wishes guys.
[15:08] <Guest78391> again, anyone using tmux and mutt with solarized?
[15:08] <holstein> Guest78391: no.. try going upstream, or wait patiently for a volunteer
[15:09] <Guest78391> mh might as well post it, but thought I might try a direct way
[15:09] <holstein> Guest78391: looks like there is a #tmux
[15:09] <Guest78391> thanks for responding anyway
[15:09] <whoever> Guest78391: no but what is you issue
[15:09] <Guest78391> oh thanks yeah might try my luck there
[15:10] <Guest78391> I have some color issues
[15:10] <Guest78391> some strange behaviour when I use mutt in tmux
[15:10] <Guest78391> colors are changing when I move the courser
[15:10] <whoever> Guest78391: well what are those issues they do sound trivial -
[15:10] <holstein> Guest78391: there is a #mutt as well
[15:10] <Ilyes512> damm \0/ finally got it pff
[15:10] <Guest78391> they are :D
[15:11] <Guest78391> tried my luck with #mutt but no luck there
[15:11] <oki> Hello to all, pls if any can help to me, I have ubuntu 12.04. LTS and try to regulate in already instaled wordpress how can i upload a new themes, plugins, and etc... but i dont know how can i do it that, so if any can show me step by step
[15:11] <whoever> Guest78391: have you tried another theme
[15:12] <whoever> Guest78391: it sounds like your issue is with solarized not mutt or tmux
[15:12] <holstein> oki: http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Themes or your host will provide instructions.. i usually just read the documenation in the web GUI
[15:13] <vbgunz> for some reason, audio plays fine through so many different apps but recording from my mic usually has a crackling sound that I just can't get rid of. I've tried tsched=0 in default.pa and I've tried adding intel_iommu=igfx_off to the linux boot command and I've tried different microphones. Windows 7 on this same machine records perfectly, I've been dealing with this problem for a very long time, I can't fix it :/
[15:13] <IamEld3st> guys just back to that proftpd problem i need to have acces directly to /var/www/html because of wordpress
[15:13] <holstein> IamEld3st: you actually dont
[15:14] <vfw> vbgunz: What kernel?
[15:14] <holstein> IamEld3st: you can mv, the mv command is to move.. you transfer to a location you have access to, then sudo mv server side
[15:14] <IamEld3st> i want to update or install theme and it wants ftp
[15:14] <IamEld3st> automaticly
[15:14] <vbgunz> the 3.13.0-24-generic
[15:14] <whoever> Guest78391: is this what you were tring http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/solarized-must-have-color-paletter-for.html
[15:14] <holstein> IamEld3st: sure.. use ftp to move to a location you *do* have permission..
[15:15] <vbgunz> this crackling only comes from the mic. it's gotten to the point where I've lost almost all hope that it will ever be fixed. I've been dealing with this for more than a year and I just can't solve it
[15:16] <oki> holstein: i saw that  but i have WP on localhost, when i login in and try to upload a new themes or plugis alway ask me that i put a ftp, but i need without that i can doit from localhost
[15:16] <holstein> vbgunz: well, considering, for a moment, that nothing is broken, might help.. you were not promised linux support, correct?
[15:16] <holstein> vbgunz: what i do is, try live CD"s, since its easy to audition different kernel drivers and alsa versions that way
[15:17] <Hemant> help
[15:17] <holstein> vbgunz: also, you can just use a different mic, as a work around.. having one component not working when moving to a completely unsupported operating system is actually not that bad
[15:17] <Guest59285> help
[15:17] <fixmypc956> hyiiuiuhyu
[15:17] <holstein> Guest78391: just ask
[15:17] <vfw> vbgunz: What version of Ubuntu?
[15:18] <fixmypc956> 'j.'jhlkgdr
[15:18] <Guest59285> i 'm using cyberoam client wifi network
[15:18] <fixmypc956> xffzhhdfbdfg
[15:18] <holstein> fixmypc956: please stop
[15:18] <Guest59285> on this network cant download softwarecenter terminal
[15:18] <fixmypc956> on
[15:18] <vbgunz> 3.13.0-24-generic, Kubuntu 14.04. I've already tried different mics, the setup here causes crackling but all mics work on this same hardware when booted into Windows 7. It's at least not a hardware problem.
[15:19] <holstein> Guest78391: not sure what you are asking..
[15:19] <holstein> Guest78391: there is no "software center terminal"
[15:19] <Guest59285> i cant download apps from software centr
[15:19] <holstein> Guest78391: troubleshoot your connectivity independent of applications
[15:19] <Guest59285> hi im using xubuntu
[15:20] <holstein> Guest78391: if you are not connected to the network, or internet, then you will not be albe to download *anything* .. is that the case? are you connected?
[15:20] <Guest59285> i can browse the internet
[15:20] <vfw> vbgunz: What are you using to record?
[15:20] <whoever> holstein: i think you want Guest59285  ! Guest78391
[15:20] <holstein> whoever: great.. thanks
[15:21] <Guest59285> plase help mee
[15:21] <vbgunz> vfw: the problem is most evident in mumble and audacity. using the pulseaudio sound server, even alsa does the same thing
[15:21] <holstein> Guest59285: please open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" and report errors
[15:21] <whoever> holstein: ya there are too many guestxxxx here
[15:21] <Guest59285> ok
[15:21] <Guest59285> wait
[15:22] <Guest59285> xman@xman-K55VD:~$ sudo apt-get update
[15:22] <Guest59285> [sudo] password for xman:
[15:22] <Guest59285> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:22] <Guest59285> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[15:22] <Guest59285> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:22] <Guest59285> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:22] <unopaste> Guest59285 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:22] <whoever> Guest59285: you have a problem connecting to your wifi ?
[15:22] <holstein> vbgunz: sure.. pulse is likely not the issue.. its likely an alsa driver issue.. you can try adjusting levels in pavucontrol and/or alsamixer.. not trusting any lables.. i have found that i will have issues that are due to a setting that is not labeled properly
[15:22] <holstein> vbgunz: alsa is just making a guess at how to support and control your hardware.. if the manufacturer hasing promised you linux support, and worked with alsa on the support, then you will be on your own..
[15:23] <saleem> hi , im on 3.2.0-58-generic on my precise , should i upgrade it to linux-generic-lts-saucy ? or not ?
[15:23] <whoever> Guest59285:  delete that lock file in the directory you posted
[15:23] <holstein> Guest59285: please close all other package managers.. if you dont understand what that means, reboot the machine,a nd just load the softwarecenter
[15:24] <vfw> vbgunz: So you have tried uninstalling pulsaudio?
[15:24] <whoever> i have no idea why gre- is even using some odd wifi client
[15:25] <saleem> tbh i get confused with kernels so i need help how to go for kernel upgrade on my ubuntu
[15:26] <vbgunz> vfw: I've booted into a backup of my system where I can play around and do exactly that, I've done it and made things worse.
[15:26] <vfw> vbgunz: Want to do some testing?
[15:27] <vbgunz> vfw: all depends
[15:27] <vbgunz> vfw: do you have mumble?
[15:27] <raouk> what is a simple network graphing program?
[15:28] <hk_> kll
[15:28] <vfw> vbgunz: no
[15:28] <vfw> vbgunz: Want to do some testing?
[15:28] <holstein> vbgunz: you can try an older version of lubuntu.. 12.04.. live.. that does not ship pulse.. but, pulse is likely not the issue
[15:28] <vfw> vbgunz: I have gmail and skype google-talk etc.
[15:29] <holstein> vbgunz: you can find, in certain situations, that not using pulse can free up some system resources, and make it seem like pulse was the issue..
[15:29] <vfw> vbgunz: Want to do some testing?
[15:29] <vbgunz> vfw: if you're on ubuntu and can apt-get install mumble, I'll give ya a private address you can at least hear me speak and hear the problem for yourself
[15:30] <vbgunz> holstein: I remember once disabling pulse and I remember alsa taking over and sounding great but it wasn't a fix as I just couldn't play audio the way pulse did. some sounds would never play, etc
[15:31] <qq> hi
[15:31] <NGC982> Hi. I don't really know if this is a Ubuntu specific question, but is there a way to start rtorrent with a specific configuration file?
[15:31] <icecream> hi I have an old laptop with 3gb HDD and 64MB ram. Which OS can run on it fluently?
[15:31] <icecream> *nix OS's
[15:31] <Slart> NGC982: you've checked the man page? sounds like there would be a switch for something like that
[15:31] <vbgunz> NGC982: go to a terminal real quick and type in rtorrent --help
[15:31] <cfhowlett> icecream lubuntu or xubuntu
[15:32] <NGC982> I have not yet read the man file, but -help did not include it.
[15:32] <icecream> It says I need 512 ram
[15:32] <cfhowlett> icecream lubuntu is optimized for older / lower specification hardware.
[15:32] <icecream> It only has 64
[15:32] <vbgunz> vfw: what kind of testing are you talking about?
[15:32] <NGC982> Let's see what the man page say.
[15:32] <NGC982> :-)
[15:32] <icecream> And 3GB HDD
[15:32] <cfhowlett> icecream eek?  I missed the 64 mb ram
[15:32] <icecream> It's an old Siemens Nixdorf Laptop
[15:32] <icecream> From eh 1980 or sth I think
[15:32] <cfhowlett> icecream damn small linux or puppy linux - MAYBE
[15:32] <icecream> ain't DSL abandoned
[15:34] <vfw> vbgunz: arecord -f cd -t raw | oggenc - -r -o out.ogg
[15:34] <vfw> vbgunz: Do it for a few seconds, Ctrl-c and then play out.ogg
[15:34] <vfw> vbgunz: (issue command  play out.ogg
[15:34] <Slart> NGC982: this page, https://kernelwho.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/running-multiple-instances-of-rtorrent/ ,  suggests using a -o switch with some kind of import setting
[15:35] <vbgunz> vfw: yeah, the crackling is there
[15:35] <NGC982> Slart: Oh. Thanks. I just shimmed trough the man file without success. I will take a look.
[15:36] <vfw> vbgunz: Did you use play?
[15:36] <vbgunz> vfw: if you had mumble, you wouldn't have to speak, but you'd immediately hear the crackling I'm talking about. I think I'm legible to understand but the crackling is annoying
[15:36] <vbgunz> vfw: yes, I used play and used amarok, the exact same recording with the exact same crackling came back
[15:36] <vbgunz> I never ever hear crackling under any other circumstances
[15:37] <vbgunz> it's only when I'm recording do I hear it. now if I go to alsamixer and unmute my mic so I have 0 latency loopback. I can hear myself perfectly without any distortions whatsoever
[15:38] <vbgunz> but my recording is going through something that's messing it up.
[15:41] <holstein> vbgunz: have you tweaked *everything* in alsamixer?
[15:41] <holstein> vbgunz: i have found the mic boost mislabed there.. or "gain" that has added distortion there..
[15:41] <NGC982> Slart: I must commend you. It works fantasticly easy and well.
[15:42] <vbgunz> yeah, I've gone through as much as possible. I lowered everything I could without interfering with what I need to hear.
[15:42] <NGC982> Slart: Thank you, so much. :-)
[15:42] <holstein> vbgunz: i would start by recording, then randomly tweaking *evertyhing* as it is tracking
[15:42] <vbgunz> holstein: yeah, I've messed with gain/boost so much but as soon as I'm audible, the crackling can be heard
[15:42] <xman_> helo
[15:42] <xman_> help
[15:43] <holstein> vbgunz: you can likely find a combination that would help, or eliminate
[15:43] <holstein> like, gain *all* the way down.. or boost down all the way, and the level up just a bit..
[15:43] <jalmeida> hi,
[15:44] <Trudko> Guys best way how to synchronize two PC with Ubuntu? I would like to have same copy more or less
[15:44] <Trudko> if that is reasonable.
[15:44] <jalmeida> how to create a ubuntu virtuabox image from hard disk?
[15:44] <Trudko> I guess that would mean having same settings, packages, files
[15:44] <Ilyes512> When you use ssh without the -i flag to identify the key you need. I am still able to login. Using -v will show it will try multiple keys. So basicly it will try all the keys know from "know_hosts" (osx, the same as authorized_keys) Is this true?
[15:44] <vbgunz> holstein: I've been doing this for more than a year, I've lowered boost to 0, gain to 0, mic to 0 and have tried every combination I could think of. as soon as I'm audible, crackling can be heard. It's such an ugly spot to be in because it seems like such a stupid corner case. I've made every google link purple in the process trying to fix this microphone problem
[15:44] <xman_> anyone using cyberoam  client in ubuntu
[15:45] <xman_> anyone using cyberoam  client in ubuntu ??
[15:45] <googolhash> vbgunz your case or motherboard probably has an EMI problem
[15:46] <googolhash> try grounding the motherboard and/or components better
[15:46] <googolhash> and setting spread spectrum may help
[15:47] <vbgunz> googolhash: but Windows 7 on this same computer does not have this problem. I'd think a problem like that would show up anywhere?
[15:47] <googolhash> maybe a driver problem
[15:47] <holstein> vbgunz: you can have hardware that does not support linux
[15:48] <googolhash> if its an onboard realtek chip , they have decent linux drivers
[15:48] <googolhash> that you can download from their website
[15:48] <holstein> vbgunz: i like to test with different alsa versions and kernel versions.. i find this easiest and quickest with live CD's.. have you tried *anything* based on older 12.04? how about 10.04? what about upcoming 14.10? have you reported the issue to alsa?
[15:49] <vbgunz> I haven't tried older versions, I haven't reported any bugs, I can't prove a bug
[15:53] <vbgunz> I'm so happy with everything, 99.9% I'd say but when you run into a problem that seems system wide like this, it's just stressful :/
[16:02] <NGC982> Hm. I'm trying to execute a script that updates the scraper on my XBMC (RPI) units when a torrent in rtorrent is done.
[16:02] <NGC982> The script works by itself (when manually executed in terminal with "sh ./"filename".sh"
[16:03] <NGC982> Although, in the rtorrent script i get "Bad return code".
[16:03] <NGC982> The script line is: "system.method.set_key = event.download.finished,notify_me,"execute=/home/kruger/rtorrent_download_XBMC.sh""
[16:03] <NGC982> I wonder, do i need to use the "sh" command after the execute bit?
[16:03] <onca1> NGC982, is the file executable?
[16:04] <NGC982> yes, i ..guess so?
[16:04] <NGC982> I can run it with the sh command.
[16:04] <onca1> that is did you chmod +x scripts ?
[16:04] <NGC982> Since i can run it manually, i think so?
[16:04] <NGC982> I guess it couldn't hurt doing it again for sake of experimentation.
[16:04] <onca1> what you're doing is a bit over my head, but you might want to try chmod +x it
[16:04] <onca1> then try again
[16:05] <NGC982> Ok. I'll try it. :-)
[16:05] <onca1> include in the top of the script firstline #!/bin/sh
[16:05] <onca1> NGC982, did you copy that, include in the top line of the script #!/bin/sh
[16:08] <NGC982> It was THAT simple.
[16:08] <NGC982> The chmod thing sorted it out.
[16:08] <NGC982> Thanks a'lot. :-)
[16:09] <NGC982> In practice, what i'm doing is centralising the media centers in our apartment. I have three RPI (OE with XBMC) units with it's own TV in our two bedrooms and the living room. I have taught my wife to download torrents (now to different folders) via SMB share; And on download, it scrapes it and updates the XBMC units.
[16:09] <NGC982> Uniform and neat.
[16:09] <NGC982> <3
[16:18] <sl33k_> Is there a technique to boot windows from pen drive to install in vmware?
[16:19] <k1l_> sl33k_: for how to get windows on a pendrive better ask the windows guys in ##windows
[16:19] <k1l_> sl33k_: but you can install from .iso direct into virtualizations
[16:21] <sl33k_> k1l_: better way I had forgotten. why bother to burn an iso to DVD.
[16:21] <sl33k_> thanks
[16:25] <Guest17312> hi guys, why ubuntu 14.04 doesn't detect DW1510 wireless-N
[16:25] <Guest17312> it is PCI-E
[16:25] <Guest17312> any idea how to make it work , i used to make it work...cause i just reinstall my PC
[16:25] <Guest17312> thanks
[16:26] <Guest17312> anyone
[16:26] <daftykins> Guest17312: run "lspci" and identify the line that represents your card, then tell us what it is named
[16:26] <daftykins> (run that in a terminal)
[16:27] <Guest17312> daftykins, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[16:28] <shunya_chakra> Ubuntu is using mir or x-window server?
[16:28] <Guest17312> so what to do next?
[16:28] <daftykins> !broadcom | Guest17312
[16:28] <daftykins> Guest17312: have a look at the link above sir
[16:29] <OerHeks> Guest17312, "The sta (wl) driver doesn't support n channel so anything above 54 Mb/s is out of question." http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206798
[16:29] <Guest17312> OerHeks, well, all i want is to make it work
[16:30] <holstein> Guest17312: try installing the driver and using the device
[16:30] <shunya_chakra> current version of ubuntu using mir or xwindow server?
[16:30] <holstein> !mir
[16:30] <OerHeks> shunya_chakra, xorg, mir is not available as stable yet
[16:30] <holstein> shunya_chakra: mir did not make 14.04
[16:31] <shunya_chakra> ok is it going to be in 14.10?
[16:31] <Guest17312> i'm so noob man, don't know what to do
[16:31] <Guest17312> currently i'm connected with wired
[16:32] <k1l_> shunya_chakra: mir is meant to be standard in 16.04 you can run a test-MIR already on 14.04
[16:32] <OerHeks> Guest17312, follow the url from ubottu about bcm, and you should have 54 mbit internet
[16:32] <Guest17312> OerHeks, why only 54bits?
[16:32] <k1l_> shunya_chakra: but be aware its optimized for phone and tablet so far and not a real pelasure on a desktop
[16:32] <Guest17312> i though it is way more for my device
[16:32] <sl33k_> I have virtual box. It is asking me to enter start up disk. While I want to enter the path of iso. How do I do that?
[16:32] <OerHeks> Guest17312, read back, as i gave you that answer already
[16:33] <daftykins> sl33k_: this is not virtualbox support, please read their documentation
[16:33] <shunya_chakra> ok k1l_ thanks...
[16:33] <k1l_> sl33k_: see the menue of virtaulbox you can set the iso there
[16:34] <sl33k_> I can see how this is offtopic. thanks for answering though
[16:34] <daftykins> Guest17312: ok so you're cabled in, have you fully updated first? (as in installed all available updates)
[16:35] <poz> hi guys
[16:35] <daftykins> hello
[16:35] <poz> I am looking for that application that lets you change audio settings
[16:36] <daftykins> settings such as?
[16:36] <poz> like turning off the auto power management for speakers...
[16:36] <rahuL__> poz,  alsamixer
[16:36] <poz> yeah, i think that was it. thank you!
[16:37] <Pushy> my wireless is working
[16:37] <Pushy> thanks guys for the help on the link
[16:37] <Pushy> i'ts me
[16:37] <Pushy> cool channel
[16:37] <Pushy> so it does support only up to 54mbps
[16:37] <Pushy> i was wondering why is that man
[16:38] <poz> is it possible for ubuntu 14.04 to brake speakers?
[16:38] <daftykins> no
[16:38] <Pushy> daftykins, thanks for help with wireless
[16:38] <daftykins> no problemo
[16:39] <Pushy> daftykins, still curious about why it is only support 54mbps.
[16:39] <Pushy> my DW1510 can handle more that that
[16:39] <daftykins> Pushy: you were told earlier, the driver doesn't support 802.11'n' and therefore cannot go any faster than 802.11'g' which is 54Mb.
[16:39] <poz> lol wow, okay, never mind. I should just pay more attention to pulling a random plug out of the wall to plug in my laptop
[16:40] <daftykins> poz: ubuntu did it! ;)
[16:40] <Pushy> daftykins, i know I was told, but is there a reason why they dont program to support?
[16:40] <daftykins> Pushy: try a different driver if you want it to go faster :)
[16:40] <Pushy> daftykins, how to know which driver go beyond it? i 'm new to this ubuntu thing
[16:40] <daftykins> Pushy: to put it simply, let's just say that Broadcom aren't exactly big fans of the open source world
[16:41] <Pushy> daftykins, so what other driver that i can use to go beyond it?
[16:41] <daftykins> Pushy: well, i linked you to the article which lists all the different drivers... so what you can do is just try each one :) now what did you change to get it working just now?
[16:41] <daftykins> Pushy: please stop repeating yourself within seconds, it is highly irritating
[16:41] <Laurenceb> hi
[16:41] <Laurenceb>  i have a drive containing lots of directories and filenames with spaces (its windoze)
[16:41] <Pushy> daftykins, send me link again...i followed the command line
[16:42] <poz> daftykins, I do tend to have a problem with ubuntu always turning the speakers on and off. The auto-mute is always enabled by defalt and never seems to work. I thought it might have blew the speakers some how by turning the power on and off some how.
[16:42] <Pushy> it works now..but i wish i can be more faster
[16:42] <Laurenceb> i need to copy all the files that have a name matching a search string out of the drive and store them
[16:42] <Laurenceb> can i do this with find?
[16:42] <daftykins> Pushy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:42] <OerHeks> Pushy, no driver can handle your card at full speed (yet), only the STA driver, which only supports 54 mbit.
[16:43] <Pushy> i see
[16:43] <Pushy> OerHeks, i wish someone program it :)
[16:44] <gre-> hi
[16:44] <gre-> well, i just installed ubuntu trusty on an asus X750L (i just bought it), and fn keys + touchpad doesn't work at all
[16:44] <gre-> so i can't enable wifi etc.
[16:44] <gre-> any help plsN
[16:45] <gre-> i modifed grub, i read threads on that
[16:45] <gre-> but issue is the same
[16:45] <daftykins> is the wireless *actually* disabled?
[16:46] <daftykins> does it show up from lspci / lsusb or not?
[16:46] <gre-> yes it is
[16:46] <daftykins> i don't mean does it work, i mean is it there? :)
[16:46] <gre-> its is not
[16:46] <gre-> wifi doesn't appear
[16:46] <daftykins> do you still have the OS it came with?
[16:47] <gre-> i just removed win 8...
[16:47] <gre-> so no
[16:47] <gre-> you make me afraid daftykins
[16:47] <k1l_> what does rfkill list bring you?
[16:47] <k1l_> -> pastebin
[16:48] <daftykins> heh
[16:48] <daftykins> i have that effect on people
[16:48] <gre-> i never used rfkill command
[16:48] <daftykins> well then now's your lucky day!
[16:48] <k1l_> "rfkill list"
[16:48] <gre-> lol
[16:48] <k1l_> put in into terminal and put the output into a pastebin
[16:49] <gre-> nothing in rfkill list
[16:49] <gre-> marco@marco-X750LB:~$ rfkill list
[16:49] <gre-> marco@marco-X750LB:~$
[16:49] <gre-> nothing... :s
[16:49] <k1l_> nothing in rfkill list is a bad sign. put "lsusb" and "lspci" into a pastebin please
[16:49] <gre-> ok
[16:49] <gre-> gimme a sec for that
[16:50] <Pushy> daftykins, i still think you're the best!
[16:50] <daftykins> d'aww
[16:50] <daftykins> my fan club grows
[16:50] <Dhiraj> hey guys just installed ubuntu 14 and downloaded oracles jdk.1.7ver.sh file, when i run sudo sh jdk.1.7ver.sh it gives suitable jar not found error
[16:50] <OerHeks> daftykins, you should take Jono's place :-D
[16:51] <Pushy> daftykins, xchat used to clear the screen by CRTL+L
[16:51] <Pushy> daftykins, no anymore
[16:51] <Dhiraj> here is the total response: Could not locate a suitable jar utility. Please ensure that you have Java 7 or newer installed on your system and accessible in your PATH or by setting JAVA_HOME
[16:51] <gre-> http://pastebin.com/JHwJiJeu
[16:51] <gre-> i just bought this computer, how is it possible?
[16:52] <daftykins> gre-: so, you were telling me lies! 02:00.0 Network controller: MEDIATEK Corp. MT7630e 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter
[16:52] <gre-> mhh?
[16:52] <Dhiraj> hey guys just installed ubuntu 14 and downloaded oracles jdk.1.7ver.sh file, when i run sudo sh jdk.1.7ver.sh it gives suitable jar not found error
[16:52] <gre-> no i swear
[16:52] <trndr> Dhiraj, why don't you just install java with apt-get?
[16:52] <sl33k_> I could not find a suitable panel item for wifi status in xfce? There is a wavelan device item but it does not provide any information about my wireless. Thoughts?
[16:52] <gre-> in right up corner i have no wifi settings, no networks on wireless
[16:52] <daftykins> Dhiraj: that's not how to install java
[16:52] <daftykins> !java | Dhiraj
[16:53] <IamEld3st> dhiraj try to add repo and install it from there
[16:53] <gre-> daftykins: but i still can't use fn to enable wifi actually
[16:53] <gre-> thats why i didn't see any wifi settings, i didn't lie!
[16:53] <Dhiraj> IamEld3st: how do i do that
[16:53] <daftykins> gre-: you're thinking a little too much in Windows terms, it may not even be necessary to use that switch.
[16:54] <Dhiraj> ubottu: i need all of jdk
[16:54] <daftykins> k1l_: are you familiar with that adapter at all?
[16:54] <gre-> so what can i do now daftykins ?
[16:54] <k1l_> gre-: did you just click on the network manager to start up that wifi?
[16:54] <jeffw> am using dwww to view man pages and online documentation but when i go more than 2 directories deep i get an error like this: The requested URL /cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/man/man3/bottom_panel.3curses.gz was not found on this server.
[16:54] <gre-> i didn't click anywhere
[16:55] <daftykins> Dhiraj: read the link, also, ubottu is a bit :)
[16:55] <daftykins> *bot
[16:55] <gre-> i can set brightness, wifi, nothing, fn keys doesn't work at all
[16:55] <Dhiraj> ok
[16:55] <gre-> my touchpad doesn't work as well
[16:55] <gre-> thats so weird
[16:55] <gre-> i can't set brightness i meant, sorry
[16:55] <IamEld3st> Dhiraj: then type in termial sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk openjdk-7-jre icedtea-7-plugin
[16:56] <pakair> Dhiraj, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/02/install-oracle-java-6-7-or-8-ubuntu-14-04/
[16:56] <IamEld3st> it may work
[16:56] <Dhiraj> IamEld3st: wand to install oracles jdk, not openjdk
[16:56] <junka> why does not ubuntu has not updated yet firefox 29.0.1 ?
[16:56] <IamEld3st> it is the same isnt it?
[16:56] <daftykins> guys, you're advising mixed methods to install java without even knowing which one the user wants or needs to run. please apply some common sense
[16:57] <raggg> is anyone here on a thinkpad with thinkfan running?
[16:58] <IamEld3st> ok he want oracles jdk 7? or 8?
[16:58] <gre-> fn keys doesn't work wtf
[16:59] <OerHeks> junka, that is the latest, visit :   http://www.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/new/    # and it says you have it
[17:00] <junka> OerHeks, yeah it does.. but there is a point release. Weird
[17:00] <IamEld3st> Dhiraj: do this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[17:01] <daftykins> junka: 29.0.1 mostly fixed Windows 8 issues, so not having it is not a concern
[17:01] <Guest45828> anyone use cyberoam client wifi  netwrk using  ubuntu?
[17:01] <Guest45828> i need help
[17:01] <junka> daftykins, thanks
[17:01] <Guest45828>  anyone use cyberoam client wifi  netwrk using  ubuntu?
[17:02] <Guest45828> help
[17:04] <Guest45828> cant update ubuntu  in wifi network ?  help
[17:04] <ikonia> Guest45828: describe error
[17:08] <Guest45828> heloooo
[17:08] <Guest45828> help
[17:08] <ikonia> Guest45828: I've already told you "describe the problem"
[17:08] <Guest45828> cant update  using terminal
[17:08] <jeffw> am using dwww to view man pages and online documentation but when i go more than 2 directories deep i get an error like this: The requested URL /cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/man/man3/bottom_panel.3curses.gz was not found on this server.
[17:09] <rahuL__> What errors you are getting?
[17:09] <ikonia> Guest45828: right, so explain the error problem
[17:09] <Guest45828> im using wifi netwrk in my boys hostel
[17:09] <ikonia> Guest45828: you are not giving any details we can use
[17:09] <ikonia> Guest45828: explain the problem/error
[17:10] <Guest45828> i can brows the web but catunt download apps from  ubuntu software centr  connection failed error
[17:10] <ikonia> Guest45828: please post the output of the command "sudo apt-get update"
[17:11] <ikonia> Guest45828: a few minutes ago you said it was from the terminal - so please focus on that
[17:11] <Guest45828> ok please wait
[17:11] <ikonia> Guest45828: please post the output in a pastebin - not this channel
[17:11] <Guest45828> 0% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]
[17:11] <k1l_> then wait
[17:12] <Guest45828> ok
[17:12] <ikonia> it will be port 80 being blocked, apart from browser, which I'd assume will use a proxy/auto configure script from dhcp
[17:13] <Guest45828> i konia  any idea ?
[17:13] <ikonia> Guest45828: exactly what I've just said
[17:14] <Guest45828> still wrking 0% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]
[17:14] <ikonia> Guest45828: yes, it's most likley port 80 being blocked and your browser is using a proxy auto configured from the dhcp server
[17:15] <Guest45828> i thnk smthing  proxy block ?
[17:15] <Guest45828> yess
[17:15] <Guest45828>  how can i solve ?
[17:15] <ikonia> Guest45828: set the system to use a proxy
[17:15] <Guest45828> plase help me
[17:15] <Prakigam> whats up
[17:15] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> On Ubuntu 12 why does the using guest account add an user  and not remove it when logging out?
[17:15] <Guest45828> how to set
[17:16] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: add a user ?
[17:16] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: which ubuntu exactly?
 plese hlp me
[17:16] <allstarsnorks2> guys
[17:16] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> k1l_: Ubuntu 12
[17:16] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: lsb_release -r
[17:16] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: yes
[17:17] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: it doesn't add anything
[17:17] <allstarsnorks2> Why am I having a bad archive mirror error when installing Ubuntu mini?
[17:17] <Guest45828> how to set the system to use a proxy
[17:17] <ikonia> allstarsnorks2: because it's pointing at a "bad archive"
[17:17] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: After each use of the guest account another Guest user is shown at the login screen.
[17:17] <allstarsnorks2> ikonia every archive i go to is a bad archive
[17:18] <Guest45828> need ur help     how to set the system to use a proxy
[17:18] <ikonia> allstarsnorks2: then it's likley your networking is not working
[17:18] <Guest45828> how can i knw my broser proxy ?
[17:19] <ikonia> Guest45828:
[17:19] <ikonia> Guest45828: http://askubuntu.com/questions/342906/change-proxy-settings-in-ubuntu
[17:19] <allstarsnorks2> ikonia you sure? I am using the same wifi network for the Ubuntu mini install and my laptop right now.
[17:19] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> Why is it that after each use of the guest account another Guest user is shown at the login screen?
[17:19] <ikonia> allstarsnorks2: thats what it sounds like
[17:20] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: look in /etc/password - how many guest accounts are there
[17:20] <citrix> hii kaha hai aap
[17:21] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: many using the guest account adds an user each use.
[17:21] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: repeating that doesn't help - doing what I told you will
[17:21] <Vladislav> is there any other type of information that a DNS server has except the usual name to ip and ip to name ?
[17:21] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: again: which ubuntu is that exaclty? which desktop? which *dm?
[17:22] <ikonia> Vladislav: that should be it
[17:23] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> k1l_: Ubuntu 12.10
[17:23] <Vladislav> ikonia: I heard something about Active Directory stuff?
[17:23] <Guest45828> helo
[17:23] <ikonia> Vladislav: you heard wrong
[17:23] <Guest45828> need help
[17:23] <Guest45828> ikonia
[17:23] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: congrats. that is out of support. please update first to a supported version of ubuntu before we work on bugs that are already solved in other releases
[17:24] <XposWinU> in 14.04 , tracepath x.x.x.x does not resolve names, why?
[17:25] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia:  looking in /etc/password shows many, as the result of using the guest account adding an user each use.
[17:25] <ikonia> XposWinU: tracepath ?
[17:25] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: I'd suggest installing a supported version of ubuntu - then resolving issues on tht
[17:25] <ikonia> that
[17:25] <Guest45828> how can i  set the system to use a proxy
[17:25] <ikonia> Guest45828: I gave you the link - read it
[17:25] <Vladislav> ikonia: Well, thanks anyway=)
[17:25] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: how much does support cost?
[17:25] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: nothing it's free
[17:26] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: ubuntu versions have a life cycle called "supported period"
[17:26] <Guest45828> ok
[17:26] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: how is it that support is free?
[17:26] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: once a distro is out of support (like 12.10) no bugs get fixed
[17:26] <XposWinU> "tracepath x.x.x.x" in terminal
[17:26] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: you have no choice of staying on 12.10. that doesnt get any updates anymore and is insecure at all now
[17:26] <Guest45828> ikonia send link please
[17:27] <ikonia> Guest45828: already did
[17:27] <ikonia> XposWinU: shows hostnames for me
[17:27] <ikonia> XposWinU: well, shows the dns names
[17:28] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> k1l_: How is it that 12.10 is  insecure at all now, what changes that makes it insecure?
[17:29] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: it doesnt get any updates anymore. that includes security updates for ssl etc etc etc. think about "heartbleed" the last days. you will not get an update for that now on 12.10
[17:29] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: How does ubuntu pay for the supporters?
[17:29] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: it doesn't
[17:29] <trndr> {{{ASIMOV}}}, security issus get found
[17:29] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: update to at least 13.10 or better 14.04
[17:29] <Guest22369> hola
[17:30] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> Does k1l_ want "heartbleed" the last days?
[17:30] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: it makes no sense to fix something in windows 95 because no one will install that anymore. same goes for ubuntu 12.10
[17:30] <k1l_> !eol | {{{ASIMOV}}}
[17:30] <k1l_> please read that carefully. come back when you upgraded to a supported ubuntu or you have issues with that upgrade
[17:31] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: where are the resources found for support if ubuntu does not pay?
[17:31] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: people donate time
[17:32] <pietro10> Hi. Where are core dumps stored in Ubuntu 14.04? I tried looking in /var/crash but my program crash isn't there. Thanks.
[17:32] <Jordan_U> {{{ASIMOV}}}: We're all volunteers here :)
[17:32] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: what is time?
[17:33] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> Jordan_U: Why do we volunteer?
[17:37] <pietro10> or I found my bug myself
[17:40] <hexhaxtron> Anyone using a GMA500 Poulsbo card?
[17:40] <daftykins> hexhaxtron: it tends to be better to ask the actual question rather than that
[17:41] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, I get a screen flickering. I think it's a kernel problem because it also flickers on TTY.
[17:41] <JediMaster> hi all, is there a recommended method to encrypt a full disk (non-root/boot)?
[17:42] <ikonia> JediMaster: full disk, but non-root and non boot ?
[17:42] <ikonia> that doesn't sound like a full disk
[17:42] <JediMaster> ikonia, how is that not a full disk
[17:42] <Vladislav> Anybody good with PAM?
[17:42] <ikonia> JediMaster: a full disk = everything
[17:42] <JediMaster> ikonia, I said it's not a boot or root disk, it's just a stand-alone disk
[17:42] <ikonia> JediMaster: you've just said a full disk, but without root or boot....
[17:43] <ikonia> JediMaster: oh, I see
[17:43] <JediMaster> no, I said non, not without =)
[17:43] <Vladislav> Why is it good have many small config files with PAM?
[17:43] <ikonia> JediMaster: luks and dmcrypt appears to be ubuntus favoured method
[17:43] <JediMaster> if it makes any difference it'll be a GPT 4TB disk
[17:43] <ikonia> Vladislav: there are not many
[17:44] <Vivekananda> hey everyone a general ubuntu related question. In a gui I pick and choose files and cut-paste or copy easily to a new place. If I had to do such thing over cli what are the things I should know that can help .  I feel that such random folder selection would be quite tough and cumbursome on the cli woundt it ?
[17:44] <Vladislav> ikonia: but they all seem to have very similar information?
[17:44] <JediMaster> ikonia, thanks, is there any ubuntu documentation on those?
[17:44] <ikonia> Vladislav: they are for each "function"
[17:44] <ikonia> JediMaster: https://help.ubuntu.com should contain some solid stuff
[17:44] <Vladislav> ikonia: for each function? Is there any explanation for this?
[17:45] <ikonia> the file name is normally an overview reference of the function
[17:45] <Vladislav> ikonia: alright=), thanks man
[17:46] <Dhiraj> Now Working: sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1
[17:46] <Dhiraj> after that i typed java command , nothing happened
[17:46] <XposWinU> in 14.04 , "tracepath x.x.x.x" in terminal does not resolve names, why?
[17:46] <ikonia> XposWinU: it does - it works on dns names, if there are dns names
[17:48] <terraformer> hey peeps, anybody encountered a problem with the dropbox indicator not showing in the notification area?
[17:49] <XposWinU> no it does not
[17:49] <ikonia> XposWinU: it certainly does, -n tells it not to use names,
[17:49] <XposWinU> I didn't use -n
[17:49] <ikonia> XposWinU: right, so it will try to use dns names if they are available
[17:50] <XposWinU> on every other non 14.04 based distro I tested it worked, and resolved the name, but on 14.04 ubuntu, xubuntu it didn't work
[17:50] <ikonia> XposWinU: so you may want to check your name resolution
[17:51] <daftykins> doesn't xubuntu lack avahi as default or something odd?
[17:51] <ikonia> XposWinU: also confirm the man page for the version you are usig to see if anything has changed in your version
[17:52] <Dhiraj> Now Working: sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1; bun it worked while javac
[17:52] <ikonia> Dhiraj: you've already said that
[17:52] <ikonia> Dhiraj: what do you want us to do about it ? you've not actually said the problem
[17:52] <Dhiraj> indtalling jdk on ubuntu
[17:53] <ikonia> Dhiraj: that is not the command to install
[17:53] <Dhiraj> folowing some thread for it, and stuck with this problem http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-JDK-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[17:53] <ikonia> Dhiraj: with what problem ?
[17:54] <Dhiraj>  sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1 this command notifies the system that Oracle Java JRE is available for use
[17:54] <ikonia> Dhiraj: so what's the actual problem ?
[17:54] <Dhiraj> but after i expected to run java command smooth
[17:54] <Dhiraj> can not find java command
[17:55] <ikonia> Dhiraj: /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java - does that exist ?
[17:55] <Dhiraj> $ java The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:  * default-jre  * gcj-4.8-jre-headless  * openjdk-7-jre-headless  * gcj-4.6-jre-headless  * openjdk-6-jre-headless Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[17:55] <ikonia> Dhiraj: /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java - does that exist ?
[17:55] <AcidRain2012> why  not just isntall the package?
[17:56] <Dhiraj> it "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin" for me
[17:57] <ikonia> Dhiraj: /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java - does that exist ?
[17:57] <ikonia> Dhiraj: please focus on the question I'm asking
[17:58] <Dhiraj> ikonia: no
[17:58] <Dhiraj> for my instance its :and my command was: sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1
[17:59] <Dhiraj> ikoniaand i have "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/"
[17:59] <Dhiraj> ikonia: i have "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/"
[18:01] <ikonia> Dhiraj: I cannot help you - you do not give me the information I asked for
[18:01] <ikonia> Dhiraj: good luck, I suspect the problem is you have not followed the instructions properly as you seem unable to follow clear instructions
[18:01] <Vladislav> is OPIE the same as S/KEY? I'm confused
[18:02] <Dhiraj> ikonia: whats wrong with :::sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1 :: while ::sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/javac" "javac" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/javac" 1:: worked fine
[18:03] <elcharuto> alguem de portugal neste canal???!!!
[18:03] <bekks> !pt | elcharuto
[18:03] <ikonia> Dhiraj: ask someone else, you dont follow instructions/give me the info I asked for
[18:04] <Dhiraj> ikonia: lets try one more time, what do u want
[18:04] <ikonia> Dhiraj: lets not, - ask someone else
[18:04] <Dhiraj> ikonia: no problem :)
[18:05] <Vladislav> Difference between S/KEY and OPIE ?
[18:06] <grrk-bzzt> Hello
[18:07] <grrk-bzzt> How can I make a shell script to run a commande in a specific folder
[18:07] <ikonia> grrk-bzzt: tell the shell script to change direcotry into that folder
[18:07] <grrk-bzzt> ikonia, "cd" is enough ??
[18:07] <ikonia> grrk-bzzt: that works fine
[18:07] <grrk-bzzt> Let me try that
[18:10] <thewebsurfer> ciao a tutti..
[18:11] <grrk-bzzt> That doesn't work ikonia
[18:12] <grrk-bzzt> ikonia, I'm using wine and I can't tell wine to execute like this "wine /path/to/software/program.exe"
[18:12] <grrk-bzzt> I have to do "cd /path/to/software ; wine program.exe"
[18:12] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[18:12] <grrk-bzzt> But that doesn't work writing this in a script
[18:13] <Bundestrojaner> what's the best way to get ladspa.h?
[18:13] <Bundestrojaner> there's no package like libladspa or ladspa-dev in the rep
[18:14] <trism> Bundestrojaner: I see it in ladspa-sdk
[18:14] <Bundestrojaner> trism: thx
[18:16] <Pushy> scammer?
[18:16] <terminal_> i've an ubuntu partition for my fileswhat is the best way to strongly encrypt it all?
[18:17] <terminal_> i dont mean the system partition
[18:23] <sruz25> I've got problem with adjusting brightness, (fgrlx, ideapad z575) it works perfectly during boot, but after I load DE it doesn't really work - sometimes it suddenly jumps max/min brightness, when I press the fn+up/down for long enough time, but without any middle steps. Any idea what could be causing it? My guess is that there's something else messing with brightness...
[18:24] <sruz25> but I have no idea what it could be...
[18:34] <Mojtaba> Hi, I am copying about 2TB data and I just want to know if I could pause it or not?
[18:34] <Mojtaba> I am using cp -arv
[18:35] <ikonia> no
[18:35] <ikonia> you'd find it better to use something like rsync that picks up where you quit it
[18:35] <ikonia> however do not pause it
[18:35] <ikonia> or try to
[18:36] <Mojtaba> ikonia: Do you know what should I do know?
[18:36] <ioGuy> hi, how i can use Tor ? i install tor package, now what?
[18:36] <ikonia> Mojtaba: what do you mean what do you do ?
[18:36] <Mojtaba> ikonia: It is now 13 hours and it needs about more 16 hours.
[18:36] <ikonia> Mojtaba: then wait
[18:37] <Mojtaba> ikonia: My laptop is kind of hanging. And I need to do something
[18:37] <ikonia> Mojtaba: then quit it - and do it when you have more time
[18:37] <ikonia> however a copy should not hang your laptop
[18:37] <Mojtaba> ikonia: I guess I am running out of memory.
[18:38] <ikonia> Mojtaba: you should not be
[18:38] <Mojtaba> ikonia: Is there something wrong?
[18:38] <Mojtaba> ikonia: I mean how can I check that?
[18:39] <ikonia> check your ram/cpu usage
[18:39] <Mojtaba> ikonia: Thank you for your suggestion about rsync, I will use that later.
[18:46] <mandrakora> hola alguien sabe el canal de ubuntu en español
[18:46] <ikonia> !es | mandrakora
[18:50] <majod> hi. i reseted my bios today. everything is fine but when i turn off the computer, after 5 seconds it automatically turns back on. not sure how to fix it? i use desktop computer, not laptop
[18:50] <Daghdha> Hi, i am about to install Dovecot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot Do i need imapd? I will use pop3
[18:50] <ikonia> majod: not an ubuntu issue
[18:51] <ikonia> Daghdha: then no
[18:51] <Daghdha> It states however to install imapd and pop3d
[18:51] <Daghdha> ok ikonia, thanks
[18:52] <majod> ikonia: weird becuase i had this issue few weeks ago but reinstalling the ubuntu helped.
[18:52] <ikonia> majod: ubuntu does not control your bios
[18:53] <majod> ikonia: thats why i had to reset it today. because whenever i booted to ubuntu, it disabled my usb devices in post screen. it worked until i booted to ubuntu and reseted my computer. i use uefi btw
[18:53] <ikonia> majod: still not an uubntu issue
[18:53] <ikonia> majod: ubuntu does not control your "pre boot" enviornment
[18:56] <shadowe989> ikonia is right aobut the bios, on load linux uses its own software after the bootloader.
[18:56] <shadowe989> about*
[19:04] <Mia18>  You can find funny videos here. http://bitly.com/1kdRPeV
[19:05] <ikonia> Mia18: please don't spam video links in #ubuntu or other channels
[19:05] <Daghdha> Hi i am using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot  "In addition, add the following line in the "protocol pop3" section in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:"
[19:05] <Daghdha> ^^ There is no such section
[19:05] <ikonia> Daghdha: is that guide meant for your vesion of ubuntu ?
[19:06] <Daghdha> It doesn't specify any version of ubuntu
[19:07] <ikonia> Daghdha: it says "append"
[19:08] <ikonia> ammend sorry
[19:09] <Daghdha> where do you see that?
[19:10] <Daghdha> I just see text saying i should add it to the 'protocol pop3' section. I don't see any mention of pop3 in the file
[19:10] <ikonia> right, you need to "add" it
[19:10] <ikonia> add means "it's not there"
[19:10] <Daghdha> So i wonder, should i make it? What is the syntax?
[19:10] <Daghdha> No
[19:11] <Daghdha> semantics is wrong then.
[19:11] <ikonia> no it's not
[19:11] <Daghdha> yes it is
[19:11] <ikonia> fine, good luck, help yourself
[19:13] <Daghdha> "In addition, add the following line in the "protocol pop3" section in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:" This text implies the existence of a "protocol pop3" section and wants me to add a line to the 'protocol pop3' section.
[19:13] <ikonia> Daghdha: argue english in another channel, it's quite clear
[19:20] <vbgunz> I just rebooted from windows 7, tested the microphone in so many ways and it's depressing. sure drivers are written specifically for Windows 7 but audio crackling on Linux shouldn't be a problem :/
[19:21] <vbgunz> I really feel it shouldn't be a problem, damn I feel helpless about this :/
[19:22] <kat_> Hi, guys, nobody is over on the Bodhi channel, but I hear it is similar to Ubuntu. I downloaded Minetest through the terminator, and it is running, but I would like to get some mods. I don't know how to do that. In the game, you can go to the mod section and then to their store, but it won't download for me. I went to Minetest server, but the link they gave me doesn't explain it very good being I'm a linux newbee. Please help if you can.
[19:23] <ikonia> kat_: we don't support dobhi stuff here
[19:23] <ikonia> sorry
[19:23] <kat_> k
[19:23] <loganetherton> I am having some rather confusing difficulties. A network which I was previously able to connect to with Ubuntu 12.04 I am no longer able to connect to. There were no updates to machine when the connectivity problems began. I am using an Atheros AR9485 wifi, and have tried many suggestions from Google, but no such luck
[19:23] <ikonia> bodhi stuff
[19:24] <loganetherton> Any guidance would be appreciated
[19:25] <loganetherton> Ah, also, I am able to connect to my phone's wifi, but not this network. I've read that I'm not the only one who has experienced issues like this before
[19:27] <azerty_> bonjour
[19:29] <msrd0> ey guys, there occurs an error while installing grub2 on a system with 2 hard disks, one of them is intel ssd (and there is the mbr) and on the other one i want to install ubuntu. on startup windows starts normally and not grub2. any idea?
[19:30] <jpavlick> Hi guys. I'm having trouble getting port 443 open on an Ubuntu server I own. Can someone help me out?
[19:30] <Beldar> msrd0, Have you used the bootrepair app yet?
[19:31] <ikonia> jpavlick: how are you trying to open it ?
[19:31] <jpavlick> Well, let me tell you this. `nmap localhost` shows that it is open, but `nmap mydomain.com` does not.
[19:31] <jpavlick> I've copied and pasted some iptable commands from the web but no luck
[19:31] <jpavlick> I'm thinking I'm overlooking something.
[19:32] <ikonia> jpavlick: what is running on port 443 ?
[19:32] <jpavlick> netstat reveals tcp6       0      0 [::]:https              [::]:*                  LISTEN      4287/apache2
[19:32] <jpavlick> which sounds good to me.
[19:32] <aquaguy> Hello.
[19:32] <ikonia> jpavlick: no, I'm not asking you for IPv6 info
[19:32] <ikonia> jpavlick: what IS running on port 443
[19:32] <ikonia> jpavlick: please answer the questions I ask
[19:33] <jpavlick> I'm sorry. I misunderstood your question.
[19:33] <jpavlick> apache is running on port 4434
[19:33] <jpavlick> 443
[19:33] <ikonia> jpavlick: what IP addresses is apache2 set to listen on
[19:33] <aquaguy> I'm using samba for sharing folders, in the samba config i'm using force user and force directory directives, both set to www-data, the group is being set right, but the user is always set to root both for files and folders. why is that? how can I solve it?
[19:34] <aquaguy> Thanks in advanced
[19:34] <rww> sidenote: apache shows up as ipv6 rather than ipv4 in netstat. this is normal, and the output above indicates it's listening on the equivalent of 0.0.0.0
[19:34] <msrd0> Beldar: no i didn't. whats that?
[19:34] <jpavlick> ikonia: Hmm. I have a <VirtualHost *:443> does that mean it is listening for every IP address?
[19:34] <ikonia> jpavlick: yes,
[19:34] <ikonia> jpavlick: so if you do "telnet localhost 443" do you get a connection ?
[19:35] <jpavlick> Yes, it seems as though I do.
[19:35] <ikonia> jpavlick: it's black or white
[19:35] <ikonia> it either connects or it doesn't
[19:35] <jpavlick> I'm sorry. I get this Trying 127.0.0.1...
[19:35] <jpavlick> Connected to localhost.
[19:35] <jpavlick> Escape character is '^]'.
[19:35] <jpavlick>  Which I think is good? I've never really used telnet before.
[19:35] <ikonia> jpavlick: ok, that shows a connection
[19:35] <Beldar> msrd0, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair take a look. Note on the gui a button to just get the bootinfo summary, do just that and post the url of it here for diagnoses.
[19:36] <ikonia> jpavlick: now verify the same on the IP address you want to connect on
[19:36] <Beldar> msrd0, You can do this from the booted live ubuntu media.
[19:36] <jpavlick> ikonia: Unable to connect to remote host. Similar behavior happens with wget localhost/mydomain.com
[19:37] <ikonia> jpavlick: what is the exact telnet comment you used
[19:37] <jpavlick> ikonia: It seems as though iptables or ufw is blocking external connections to 443?
[19:37] <jpavlick> ikonia: telnet mydomina.com 443
[19:37] <ikonia> jpavlick: I didn't say do that
[19:37] <ikonia> jpavlick: I said telnet to the IP ADDRESS
[19:37] <jpavlick> ah
[19:37] <ikonia> jpavlick: please do that from the same host running the web server also first
[19:38] <jpavlick> ikonia: I am currently doing everything from the host running apache.
[19:38] <ikonia> jpavlick: that's great
[19:38] <delt> Hello
[19:38] <delt> anyone has any experience with bluetooth dongles such as this one? says "Linux and mac not supported" --- http://www.ebay.ca/itm/200978396537
[19:38] <jpavlick> ikonia: telnet my.ip.addr.here 443 - connection refused
[19:38] <ikonia> jpavlick: ok, so "sudo iptables -F"
[19:38] <ikonia> then re-test
[19:39] <jpavlick> ikonia: uh oh. it seems as though my ssh connection died after running that.
[19:39] <ikonia> jpavlick: reconnect
[19:39] <jpavlick> I'm trying and it's just sitting there trying to connect. I think it's going to time out.
[19:40] <ikonia> jpavlick: iptables -F just flushes the iptables rules that are active
[19:40] <jpavlick> maybe one of them was "open port 22"?
[19:40] <ikonia> jpavlick: that should basically blank the firewall rules
[19:41] <jpavlick> hmm
[19:41] <AcidRain2012> jpavlick, why filter out your ip?
[19:41] <AcidRain2012> ;)
[19:42] <jpavlick> Ha IDK. I didn't set this up. It's a rackspace VM.
[19:42] <jpavlick> I'll play with it.
[19:42] <ikonia> iptables -X would probabably hve been cleaner
[19:42] <AcidRain2012> where you get a rackspace at?
[19:42] <ikonia> jpavlick: the best thing to do would be to reboot the host, go back to default ubuntu ufu rules
[19:42] <ikonia> jpavlick: then we can append them, rather than blindly typing things off the internet
[19:42] <AcidRain2012> ^lo;l
[19:42] <ikonia> that way we move forward from a known good starting point
[19:43] <jpavlick> Right. I'm rebooting it from the rackspace console.
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> yes
[19:45] <Beldar> delt, That is a needle in a hay stack possibility, I would believe what it says and run from ebay.
[19:47] <terminal_> how an i encrypt my ubuntu personal data partition?
[19:47] <jpavlick> Alright. I'm back in.
[19:47] <Beldar> terminal_, during install or after?
[19:48] <f0ggy> Hi everyone.  I'm having some problems with my sound; when I put in headphones, there's no sound through them, though it's working fine with just the speakers in my laptop.
[19:48] <terminal_> Beldar: after i installed ubuntu i need a strong encryption method avoiding acessing my HD of sniffer ppl
[19:49] <Beldar> terminal_, really, can you define sniffer ppl?
[19:49] <f0ggy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7511808/ has my lspci and my lsmod
[19:49] <f0ggy> It definitely "sees" the headphones, since the icon appears in the upper right, and it mutes the main speakers
[19:50] <terminal_> Beldar: sniffer ppl who are on my same LAN,they told they can hack me with meta splot
[19:50] <holstein> f0ggy: unmute and test.. try pavucontrol and alsamixer.. dont trust any labels.. tweak all settings to test
[19:50] <f0ggy> holstein: I've tried maxing out everything, but no joy.
[19:50] <Guido1> Hello, i need a quick data recovery. (easy and quick). I ahde a file "media.odt" in e specific folder on a partition. I moved the file to a different partition. on the new partition it got corrupted. so i would like to find it on the old location.
[19:51] <jpavlick> ikonia: I'm back in. Still unable to telnet ip.addr 443
[19:51] <holstein> f0ggy: in pavucontrol?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> terminal_  you mean metasploit?
[19:51] <f0ggy> It does play sound through the speakers when I unmute the thing called Speakers
[19:51] <Beldar> terminal_, If your booted and on the lan, it does not matter whether encrypted or not
[19:51] <f0ggy> holstein: pavucontrol and alsamixer
[19:51] <holstein> f0ggy: the jack and headphones should be tested as well
[19:52] <terminal_> MonkeyDust:something i dont remember with this tune
[19:52] <terminal_> Beldar: so i must not worry about what they show?
[19:52] <f0ggy> The headphones are fine.  Not sure how I can test the jack, though I can say it worked at one point in the not too distant past.
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> terminal_  what Beldar says, no need to be paranoid
[19:52] <jimi_> What package provides the log out menu in gnome?
[19:53] <holstein> f0ggy: i would test with a live CD that i know supported it in the past.. or a supported opetating system
[19:53] <terminal_> MonkeyDust: i've family pictures of my family on that computer so i felt worry
[19:53] <f0ggy> I can give that a shot.
[19:53] <f0ggy> Back in a bit, then. :)
[19:54] <Kion> can someone outline me how is the installation via network done?
[19:54] <Beldar> terminal_, Having everything backed up is your best safety, off the computer.
[19:54] <holstein> !netinstall
[19:55] <terminal_> Beldar: thanks :)
[19:56] <Beldar> terminal_, No problem. ;)
[19:56] <holstein> Kion: the mini iso is a lot like a normal installation.. then, you can connect to the network, and download what you like.. an arguably more simplified version of net install
[19:56] <holstein> !mini
[19:59] <delt> Beldar: needle in a haystack possibility... that it might work?
[19:59] <Beldar> delt, That anyone here would know about that dongle.
[20:00] <fridaynext> hehe, dongle.
[20:00] <holstein> you cant know about it.. the manufacturer can change the chipset at anytime.. and they dont have to alert anyone. just do what they have promised, which is, supply windows support and windows driver
[20:00] <Beldar> fridaynext, common term here. do you need support?
[20:01] <delt> fridaynext: dongle
[20:01] <holstein> you could have one of those BT dongles that works, and buy the exact same model, and have it not work
[20:01] <delt> holstein: deja vu -)
[20:02] <holstein> delt: im cross answering so you can see a larger community not disagree with me
[20:03] <reisio> he's not wrong, but I'd still consider it fairly unlikely
[20:03] <delt> wow, for some reason i see a larger community not disagreeing with you.
[20:03] <reisio> which of course means people will still encounter it :)
[20:04] <delt> in other news, anyone using "indicator-cpufreq"?
[20:04] <holstein> delt: its becuase its true of *all* hardware.. you take your chances when they say they dont support linux
[20:05] <delt> on my laptop the cpufreq icon represents cpu load, on this machine it doesn't (stays at minimum)
[20:05] <holstein> delt: this is only becuase i feel you are asking for a final, guaranteed answer. and the folks who can give you that answer have already said they dont support linux.. otherwise, i find they typically just work
[20:05] <delt> holstein: thanks for the insight
[20:05] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Try terminal commnad -> sudo find / -name media.odt <-. Will take some time to hunt that file up.
[20:06] <Guido1> Bashing-om: i guess i have to enter the partition and maybe folder. how do i include that into the command?
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Is not that partition already mounted ? the commnad searches the entire mounted file system for that file.
[20:09] <Bashing-om> Guido1: The '/' starts the search at "root's" directory and ALL directories under it.
[20:10] <Guido1> Bashing-om: i'm not so familiar with the command line
[20:12] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Not a problem, we are here to also teach. see terminal command -> man find <- key 'q' to quit and return to the terminal.
[20:13] <Guido1> Bashing-om: it's mopunted and called "onderweg" (sda7)
[20:13] <delt> ...so, in other news, anyone using "indicator-cpufreq"? on my laptop the cpufreq icon represents cpu load, on this machine it doesn't (stays at minimum)
[20:13] <Guido1> Bashing-om: so after starting the terminal i enter "man find"
[20:14] <delt> exact same version on both.
[20:14] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Run the 'find' cammand as given, if that file name exist, 'find' will find it. // man is short for 'manual' every linux has the manual installed.
[20:15] <luttermann84> So... While trying to provision a server using MaaS, apt complained that the Packages file was gone! And it seens to be right, only Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz are avalible! What to do now?!
[20:15] <Guido1> Bashing-om: how do i get the find to work in the correct partition?
[20:18] <knuxee> 1727 users???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  OMG!
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> luttermann84  better ask in #ubuntu-server, I guess
[20:18] <Beldar> knuxee, They are all watching you!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[20:19] <Guido1> Bashing-om: the partition is "onderweg" (sda7). sop the sommant is sudo find /sda7/ -name media.odt is that right?
[20:20] <luttermann84> MonkeyDust: Thanks! I'm from the debian world, and this is actually my first time in the #ubuntu* channels... so i don't know where to go :o
[20:20] <rebelxt> Can anyone tell me what synaptic return code 129 means? Or a better channel on which to ask this question?
[20:20] <bserveur> hi
[20:20] <delt> it means synaptic returned a code of 129
[20:21] <delt> how useful knowing that is.... not too sure
[20:21] <Beldar> msrd0, I see you are back you on the live cd/usb?
[20:21] <Bashing-om> Guido1: We are not working at the partition level, rather at the directory level.  If you know the file you want is in a directory, you may narrow the serch down to that directory ( and all under that Top Level Directory).
[20:22] <RustyShackleford> i am having this issue where web pages won't load
[20:22] <k1l> delt: please be helpfull in here. pleople try to get help and dont need comments like that. thank you
[20:22] <RustyShackleford> however, after refreshing several times, it will load
[20:22] <reisio> it would be in the synaptic source code, at least
[20:22] <RustyShackleford> in the past, it had something to do with DNS caching
[20:22] <delt> k1l: sorry
[20:23] <Beldar> RustyShackleford, I am from links on the irc only, to like pastebin and a few others, this similar?
[20:23] <Guido1> Bashing-om: okee and how do i do that? starting the termal from nautilus?
[20:25] <adamcunnington> what is the default permission flag for a file? i just chmod +x my_file.py and i want to revert to what it was
[20:25] <bekks> adamcunnington: There is no "default".
[20:25] <delt> adamcunnington: chmod -x my_file.py
[20:25] <k1l> adamcunnington: do chmod -x
[20:25] <delt> bekks: actually there is a default set by ulimit
[20:26] <Guido1> Bashing-om: and i'm searching in the folder where it was in. not in the folder in which i put it
[20:26] <Beldar> delt, indicator-cpufreq has a drop down to change that.
[20:26] <luttermann84> delt: you mean umask right?
[20:26] <bekks> delt: you mean umask. umask has nothing to do with files installed by a package.
[20:26] <delt> luttermann84: *duh* oh yeah
[20:26] <delt> bekks: *duh* oh yeah
[20:27] <delt> Beldar: here the dropdown just shows the list of possible frequencies, and the possible governors (ondemand, etc)
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Weelll, If ya know the direcory that the desired file may be in ( everything in linuz is a file ) all that is required is to list the contents of said dirctory. You say sda7 is mounted. What and where is it mounted from? once the mount point is known the contents can be listed .
[20:27] <Beldar> delt, You can set it to several modes is all.
[20:28] <Beldar> delt, I use it for that control and a conky to show cpu usage in real time from the desktop.
[20:28] <delt> conky?
[20:29] <Beldar> delt, A gui you can customize, kinda cool really.
[20:29] <delt> Conky is a free software system monitor for the X Window System. It is available for Linux, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD.[2] Conky is highly configurable[3][4][5] and is able to monitor many system variables including the status of the CPU, memory, swap space, disk storage, temperatures, processes, network interfaces, battery power, system messages, e-mail inboxes [....]
[20:29] <reisio> never quite got into that
[20:30] <reisio> but when I do bother with it, I like to dump things however I please into an image, with imagemagick
[20:30] <Beldar> reisio, NO soup for you. ;)
[20:30] <reisio> and then set it as my desktop wallpaper, updating at any interval I please :)
[20:30] <Guido1> Bashing-om: I moved the file from on partition to another partition (moved, not coppy) On the new location i did some changes and the file got corrupted. so i want to revcover the old version from the partition it was on before
[20:30] <reisio> Beldar: nooooo
[20:32] <Guido1> Bashing-om: the result from the commant is that i just get to the next command line
[20:32] <Bashing-om> Guido1:  OH Boy, you have a problem as when "moved" the file no longer has reference points to find it again from the file system. What you might so is use the utility "testdisk" and see if it can recover that file. Thee maybe other means.
[20:33] <Guido1> Bashing-om: how can i do it with test disk? i only see a way to recover partitions
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Guido1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ; Recover deleted files in ubuntu.
[20:35] <_2_abbsicle> n
[20:35] <_2_abbsicle> hi is anybody there
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> _2_abbsicle  it works, we see you
[20:36] <Beldar> _2_abbsicle, 1700 or so you have a support need?
[20:39] <ejo> Hi, I'm running 14.04, and I just added a 2nd display on my dual-DVI video card for the first time.  It resulted in a kernel panic.
[20:40] <ejo> The system won't get all the way through booting when the 2nd display is plugged in, and if I boot without it and plug it in it crashes then too.
[20:40] <delt> ouch
[20:40] <ejo> Where to start with this?
[20:40] <delt> what video card is that?
[20:40] <ejo> I say "kernel panic" because I was able to catch those words on the screen in the few messages during the failed boots.
[20:40] <ejo> it's an ATI several years old.  14.04 settings window reports no special drivers are in use.
[20:40] <ejo> (or available)
[20:41] <SilverSlimer> hey guys
[20:41] <ejo> I think a Radeon 4970 if i remember clearly.
[20:41] <Beldar> ejo, Always be aware linux is not windows, not even relevant most of the time.
[20:41] <SilverSlimer> anyone notice that Evolution, in 14.04, automatically corrects addresses in the To: field? Like if you put moron@lame.com, it'll automatically "correct" to moron, @lame.com
[20:42] <ejo> Beldar: you lost me there... of course Linux is not Windows -- ?
[20:42] <ejo> not sure what your focus was in stating that
[20:42] <Beldar> ejo, You used an example of no driver needed in windows, not relevant
[20:42] <ejo> I did not refer to windows at all.
[20:42] <delt> ejo: haven't used ati cards in the past like...15 years, so i can't really be of much help
[20:43] <delt> 14.04 settings window
[20:43] <ejo> Beldar, if you mean the operating system known as "Windows", I was not referring to that in any way.
[20:43] <ejo> yes, delt.
[20:43] <Beldar> ejo, Ah you are right, I miss read my bad. Happens so often here is all.
[20:43] <ejo> thanks. no problem
[20:43] <ejo> understandable.
[20:43] <ejo> This same video card has run 2 monitors before under 13.04 and 12.10.
[20:44] <delt> ejo: does the same happen from a livecd?
[20:44] <ejo> This is the first time I've had one around to try with 14.04.
[20:44] <CherryWorm> hey guys, does anybody know how to install grub2-efi with the ubuntu isntallation?
[20:44] <ejo> delt, I can go and try that and find out.
[20:44] <Beldar> !uefi | CherryWorm
[20:44] <ma> i need help
[20:44] <ejo> delt, would the main point of testing with booting from a live CD be to check the possibility that some of my installed software is the cause?
[20:45] <CherryWorm> i alreeady read that, do i have to start the live cd in efi mode?
[20:45] <Beldar> CherryWorm, more good info, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[20:45] <CherryWorm> i can choose in my bios whether i want to have legacy suppor tor not
[20:45] <Beldar> CherryWorm, THe link addresses that
[20:45] <CherryWorm> thx
[20:45] <delt> ejo: i'd try livecd's from various distro's (if you have them and/or don't mind dl'ing them)
[20:46] <Beldar> the uefi link and the forums to I believe. CherryWorm
[20:46] <ejo> sounds good, delt.  but if I find one where it works, what do I conclude?
[20:46] <vifino> Uefi breaks world. :P
[20:46] <Beldar> CherryWorm, Have you imaged/cloned windows off the HD?
[20:47] <delt> ejo: what brand motherboard?
[20:47] <ejo> It's an eVGA based on the Intel x58 chipset, 2009-ish.  i7-920 cpu
[20:48] <CherryWorm> no i have not yet
[20:49] <CherryWorm> but ih ave one major prblem: i already tried booting the stick in efi mode, tho it gives me an error and then if i select anything it jsut shows me a black screen
[20:49] <Beldar> CherryWorm, I would, people do get nice door stoppers in this area, and loose the windows altogether by making mistakes is all, cover your booty.
[20:49] <Guido1> Bashing-om: or is there any option to get an older version of the same file with libre office?
[20:50] <delt> ejo: so the only distro/version that causes a kernel panic with 2 monitors is ubuntu 14.04?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> ejo: AMD has dropped support for all 2X/3X/4X series of cards, Open source driver is your best bet.
[20:50] <ejo> delt: As far as I have seen, that's right.  I definitely did not have this problem with 12.04 through 13.10.
[20:50] <CherryWorm> it is something like: could not open: \efi\Boo1()i think\fallback.elf:anumber
[20:51] <CherryWorm> it is propably \efi\boot\fallback.elf
[20:51] <ejo> Bashing-om: I believe I'm on the open source driver if my system reports no proprietary drivers are in use or available?
[20:51] <CherryWorm> it only falshes on the screen for like a second, then it disappears and the menu is displayed
[20:52] <delt> ejo: i'd first try if the livecd gives the same results, and then also from "related" distros like xubuntu/ubuntu studio/etc. versions 14.04
[20:52] <ejo> I did not install fglrx or anything, just a clean install of 14.04 fairly recently.
[20:52] <CherryWorm> does somebody know what this error means and how to solve it?
[20:52] <CherryWorm> i used a 64 bit 14.04 iso
[20:53] <ejo> delt: yes, I will do that.  I just am curious what I should conclude if I find a distro that works.  Is it just that that will be valuable data if or when I make a bug report?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Not having used 'Libre Ofice" I can not advise. Many times an application does make "backup" copies. You can try the find command - with the wild card character '*" -  and see what it finds.
[20:53] <ejo> I don't have a solid idea of what I would report a bug on -- what package or what.
[20:53] <k1l> !bug | ejo report  a bug and see what the specialists say to that
[20:53] <CherryWorm> can anybody help with this error? it is the only thing which prevents me from installing ubuntu propably
[20:53] <k1l> ejo: maybe its a kernel bug or something
[20:54] <ejo> k1l: I suppose so.  How to report a kernel bug with the system that looks for a package name?  Do you just type in 'kernel' as the name?
[20:54] <Guido1> Bashing-om: there is one backup but it's corrupted too :-S - both files are 0 kb
[20:54] <delt> ejo: might be a bug in the kernel, in X11, in the display manager, etc... knowing what works and what doesn't will help a lot in finding where the problem is
[20:54] <Guido1> Bashing-om: and testdisk does not mention odt in the possible files
[20:55] <k1l> ejo: linux-image. but i would first report the bug against the driver you are running. like fglrx if installed
[20:55] <skinux> Is there a way to set Ubuntu to install software to system directories on a second partition, while still having presently installed software functioning and managable where they're located now?
[20:55] <ejo> ok thanks for now... I will test various distros next via live CD (usb stick actually)
[20:55] <CherryWorm> the file \efi\boot\fallback.elf does not even exist on my disc
[20:55] <ejo> k1l: no, fglrx not installed.
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Guido1: so long as the sector that the original file exits on has not been over written, there is a chance to recover it. But one would have to resort to "recovery" tools.
[20:56] <k1l> ejo: did you try with fglrx (if its an ati)
[20:56] <msrd0> CherryWorm: sure that this is correct? first its /boot/efi and second on linux its a / and not a \
[20:56] <Guido1> Bashing-om: jea, but which one? testdisk seams to be a recovery tool, but nit to support finding of odt files
[20:57] <shortcut> goodevening everyone. how are you all today?
[20:57] <ejo> k1l: 14.04's "Software & Updates" settings dialogue reports no additional or proprietary drivers available. So I was guessing that it would not be wise to try fglrx since it is no longer showing up in there as it used to in previous Ubuntu versions.
[20:57] <ejo> ... but i could try it anyway
[20:57] <Bashing-om> ejo: You can look at what the system has loaded ( if any) for a driver -> sudo lshw -C display < look in the xonfifure line for "radeon".
[20:57] <CherryWorm> guys, pls help me, im trying to install a 65 bit 14.04 version of ubuntu in efi mode, tho it gives me an error message like this: Could not open: \efi\boot\fallback.elf
[20:57] <k1l> ejo: depends on your card still supported by ati
[20:57] <CherryWorm> this file does not exist on my disc
[20:58] <ejo> Bashing-om: cool, have forgotten that since I last had to mess with video problems a couple years ago.
[20:58] <ejo> k1l: it's no longer supported, as Bashing-om just mentioned above.
[20:58] <Beldar> CherryWorm, There only a few on here that know this UEFI stuff, so just be aware.
[20:58] <Guido1> Bashing-om: mean Foremost and photorec
[20:58] <venividivici> Hey. Just installed ubuntu 14.0.4  Installed okay, but I'm guessing the GPU driver wasn't detected or installed correctly; via s3g chrome pro (iirc)  Its running like a slideshow.  I found a .deb package "openchrome", opened with the default app.  Whats next if I'm going to install a display driver (basic standard install)
[20:59] <skinux> My real problem is: Within a single week, Ubuntu was complaining about low disk space. Each day warning about less space than day before. Fourth day low space warning said there was ~800MB more than previous days. Since then warnings are variant between 1.1G to less than 400MB available. I've removed several softwares and even removed Texlive documentation trying to solve this issue
[20:59] <Bashing-om> ejo: O have many many times had to resue others ssytems when they tried to install the FGLRX drivers when no support is any longer provided.
[20:59] <Beldar> CherryWorm, And I mean on here in general
[20:59] <holstein> venividivici: the openchrome driver is included in the kernel
[20:59] <shortcut> does a kind soul have a moment of his of her time plz? i need to ask for a few steps i need to take,kinda like a to do list. and i am a beginner.
[20:59] <ejo> Bashing-om: yes, my own experience with fglrx on 12.x and 13.x was not very encouraging.
[20:59] <k1l> venividivici: that sounds like its a very slow system anyway. i would suggest to try lubuntu since its more lightweight
[20:59] <holstein> venividivici: chrome support is typically bad
[20:59] <tabasco> how do I find out whether my connection is using dhcp?
[21:00] <ejo> Bashing-om and k1l: yep, the installed driver is just 'radeon', which I believe is the open-source driver for ATI cards.
[21:00] <Beldar> shortcut, You will know if you actually post the issue. ;)
[21:00] <holstein> venividivici: as suggested above, on my chrome hardware, i use lxde
[21:00] <k1l> ejo: yep
[21:00] <venividivici> holstein: 2.2ghz p4c, 2gb ram... shouldn't be a prob.  Win7 ult 32 certainly runs quick enough
[21:00] <shortcut> Beldar: offcourse how silly of me.
[21:00] <k1l> venividivici: yes, with drivers delivered for windows. that is a difference
[21:01] <gnu__mpx> chat on me tor chat rpq2vhojg5nzzztw
[21:01] <holstein> venividivici: the windows support is irrelevant, since you were promised windows support.. if the vendor promised linux support, you whouldnt have any issue
[21:01] <k1l> gnu__mpx: dont spam in here
[21:01] <gnu__mpx> i dont spam
[21:01] <Beldar> shortcut, Never hurts to be sensitive to the environment. ;)
[21:01] <venividivici> holstein:  no prob.. so you mentioned openchrome is included.. any reason why the defaultdriver in etc/x11 would be lightdm then?
[21:02] <bekks> venividivici: lightdm is not a driver.
[21:02] <k1l> venividivici: lightdm is not a driver. its a Display Manager. its basically the login screen which starts the desktop for you
[21:02] <venividivici> thats cool.. where am I going to look to see where the driver is configured?
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Guido1: I know of no easy way to recover a lost file/ most advise to clone the hard drive, recover all the files and locate the one you want from the cloned image.
[21:03] <gnu__mpx> olgg in wallpaper chane in ubuntu 12.04 help
[21:03] <ejo> OK, i'm off to try various distros via LiveCD to try to chase this 2-display crash down.
[21:03] <Guido1> Bashing-om: photorec did found the file even so it does not mention odt as a supported file type. thank you
[21:03] <shortcut> Beldar: i have a laptop that is in dual boot mode,with win7. so i decided i'm gonna switch to ubuntu 12.04.what is the easyest way to do this correctly? and by any chance can you point me towards a wiki on how to do this myself?
[21:04] <Beldar> shortcut, You want windows gone?
[21:04] <shortcut> yes sir
[21:04] <France18>  You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1p5sZAr
[21:04] <venividivici> k1l:  where might I find where the system configuration for the gpu driver is?  a path would be helpful
[21:05] <Beldar> shortcut, Okay, I would dualboot to be sure, but all you have to do is boot and choose the whole HD, to wipe windows and have ubuntu.
[21:05] <Beldar> on the install
[21:05] <gnu__mpx> hello
[21:05] <Beldar> shortcut, That will wipe the HD, so if you need anything there back it up externally.
[21:06] <reisio> hello gnu__mpx
[21:06] <shortcut> Beldar can i take an image of my ubuntu? and then wipe everything and re-install the iso?
[21:06] <gnu__mpx> hei i want to have change the wallpaper in log in on ubuntu 12.o4
[21:07] <reisio> shortcut: yeah, but what for?
[21:07] <Beldar> shortcut, what iso?
[21:07] <shortcut> ehhhhm i'm not sure.
[21:07] <reisio> gnu__mpx: ls /etc/ | grep -i lightdm
[21:08] <Beldar> shortcut, Are you thinking you might want widows again at some point?
[21:08] <Beldar> windows*
[21:08] <shortcut> nope.
[21:08] <shortcut> it needs to go
[21:09] <reisio> so the goal is to remove Windows?
[21:09] <Beldar> "it's got to go.....godzilla"
[21:09] <gnu__mpx> reisio thanke you,you are a good man can we chat on tor chat my id is rpq2vhojg5nzzztw
[21:09] <k1l> gnu__mpx: stop that.
[21:09] <CherryWorm> for anybody wondering: it looks like i have to add "acpi_backlight=vendor" to the boot command line
[21:09] <CherryWorm> ill try that out now
[21:10] <gnu__mpx> k1l shut up im not talking on you
[21:10] <shortcut_> Beldar: the windows keeps bsod'ing on me. and both my browser in ubuntu are constantly crashing
[21:10] <Beldar> CherryWorm, Be careful in just adding a what works for you, not needed here without a distinct explanation, like w wiki would
[21:11] <holstein> shortcut_: maybe you have failing hardware
[21:11] <Beldar> shortcut_, Ubuntu on?
[21:12] <shortcut_> what do you mean? on ?
[21:12] <Beldar> shortcut_, bsod have a code, worth looking up.
[21:12] <shortcut_> my machine is a HP
[21:12] <shortcut_> bleu screen of death
[21:12] <Beldar> shortcut_, Were is this ubuntu, you have so far asked about installing it?
[21:12] <Beldar> live cd?
[21:13] <Beldar> err dvd or usb
[21:13] <shortcut_> no i haven't done anything yet
[21:13] <shortcut_> wubi installer
[21:13] <Beldar> shortcut_, Ah wubi.
[21:14] <bekks> shortcut_: Wubi is not considered to be used for anything else than testing.
[21:14] <Beldar> shortcut_, So a wubi install, you have to be really clear here.
[21:15] <gomaaz> hi there
[21:19] <shortcut_> srr Beldar i keep disconnecting
[21:19] <shortcut_>  beldar: this was what i had in mind with my limited knowledge of Linux. i wanted to remove everything but first back up ubuntu. then install it on the empty drive. is this a good plan? or am inot doing it right?
[21:22] <Beldar> shortcut_, You can migrate that wubi to a partition, I would not do it however without being prepared for anything to happen is all. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[21:23] <adamcunnington> does anyone know what exceptions json load can throw? the docs don't mention, attributeerror will be raised if you a pass an object in that doesn't support a .read() attribute
[21:23] <Heartbeats> hey i can't get java working on my ubuntu 64bit, i have the quick java plugin on firefox, ice tea failed to install. is anyone familiar with this program
[21:23] <shortcut_> wow thanks man. has anyone told you recently that you rock? well you do.
[21:23] <Heartbeats> i mean proble..
[21:23] <Heartbeats> m
[21:23] <adamcunnington> what about if the file is in a format it can't read? what exception is thrown then?
[21:24] <Heartbeats> thank shortcut_
[21:24] <Heartbeats> thanks*
[21:24] <shortcut_> brb after reas
[21:24] <shortcut_> *read
[21:25] <jarnold> greetings. anyone familiar with issue where bluetooth settings detects & connects to a headset, but sound settings do not see the headset
[21:29] <Beldar> shortcut_, Heh, just my musician friends. ;)
[21:30] <shortcut_> Beldar: i think this something i may not be prepared for. here's what i was thinking.i 'm just gonna back up my files images music movies docs etc.... and write a list of all the software that is on it and then do the wipe and do a fresh install.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> jarnold  use blueman, it has helped me many times too
[21:31] <Beldar> shortcut_, Yeah, probably the best move, there are limitations to how many partitions on a single HD if primary.
[21:32] <shortcut_> Beldar: most importantly my own limitation lol
[21:33] <Beldar> shortcut_, youcan make a list of what's installed with dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages and use it to load them on the install, if you have all the repos needed.
[21:33] <shortcut_> wow cool
[21:33] <Beldar> upon install*
[21:34] <Beldar> shortcut_, THat will put a my-packages in home to save, it is a script
[21:38] <shortcut_> Beldar: i don't want to be "that guy" that keeps begging to hold my hand for,especially after you have been already so helpsull. but can you help get a tutorial or wiki? i think i'm going to need it for sure.
[21:38] <trndr> shortcut_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366
[21:39] <shortcut_> thats it thank you trndr
[21:40] <shortcut_> thank you all of you
[21:41] <adamcunnington> for logging critical error messages, should you except the expected exception, log a message and then re-raise it?
[21:43] <raggg> compiz just crashed when i unplugged an external monitor, i chose to send info to ubuntu, is there a way I can see the same log/error output file?
[21:46] <adamcunnington> for logging critical error messages, should you except the expected exception, log a message and then re-raise it?
[21:47] <Trudko_> Guys best way how to synchronize two PC with Ubuntu? I would like to have same copy more or less. I guess that would mean having same settings, packages, files
[21:48] <bmuk> Trudko_: is one of them much more powerfull than the others?
[21:48] <k1l> Trudko_: make images
[21:48] <bmuk> Trudko_: I have a friend who made a thickclient script for arch, I could see what I could do to work ubuntu into it
[21:49] <k1l> or sync the stuff you want to be synced with rsync over ssh or such
[21:51] <Trudko_> bmuk: well one is laptop , second is desktop pc so pc is bit more powerful
[21:52] <Trudko_> k1l: well I want it to be automatic
[21:52] <bmuk> I want to use my phone as an extension of my desktop; something like what I imagine Ubuntu Touch will be. What are my options right now? I'm already using unified remote but I would like to see other options
[21:52] <bmuk> Trudko_: a thick client would stream the OS over the network, but after it's downloaded you would use the hardware you're on
[21:54] <gry-> I ran into this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453831/help-online-upgrade-from-12-04-to-14-04-stuck . Then I closed off the install and run into other problems: https://pastee.org/9meyg
[21:54] <Trudko_> bmuk not sure how that would work
[21:54] <bmuk> you would boot into your NIC card, it's called PXE boot
[21:55] <k1l> gry: why -d?
[21:55] <bmuk> then you would log in to your user account and everything would be stored on the server
[21:55] <bmuk> but it would perform well because it is using local hardware
[21:55] <k1l> gry: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[21:56] <gry-> k1l, -d to upgrade from one release to another one. 14.04.
[21:56] <k1l> gry: -d is for developer release
[21:56] <raggg> is there a way to view log files with human readeable time stamps?
[21:56] <k1l> if your system thinks it is 14.04 it will uogade to 14.10
 gry: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[21:56] <gry-> k1l, 14.04.
[21:57] <gry-> k1l, without -d, it says no new release found.
[21:57] <k1l> gry: please pastebin the "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:57] <k1l> gry: you want upgrade to 14.10?
[21:57] <gry-> k1l, no, to 14.04
[21:58] <gry-> k1l, https://pastee.org/468ce
[21:58] <k1l> gry: when lsb_release -r tells you you are already on 14.04 there is no need to upgrade :)
[21:58] <gry-> k1l, but like you see in https://pastee.org/9meyg, the upgrade is halfway through, and apt refuses to fix it properly
[21:58] <k1l> gry: and as you can see in your first paste the -d bring you to 14.10 aka utopic
[21:59] <gry-> ok, I got that
[21:59] <k1l> authenticate 'utopic.tar.gz' against 'utopic.tar.gz.gpg'
[21:59] <k1l> just run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:59] <k1l> that will bring you all 14.04 stuff that is needed
[22:00] <gry-> I'm on it
[22:00] <gry-> hope it wouldn't download again as it already downloaded stuff before
[22:01] <gry-> nope, same issues https://pastee.org/zx8j5
[22:02] <k1l> sudo apt-get install -f
[22:02] <gry-> k1l, https://pastee.org/q73gz sudo apt-get install -f
[22:04] <gry-> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:04] <gry-> I specifically don't like that line
[22:04] <k1l> you have other package manager stuff opened?
[22:05] <gry-> killed some leftovers from the uograde, it started working
[22:05] <segundo> missing the wifi icon on the panel xfce
[22:06] <segundo> anyone how know rescue?
[22:06] <gry-> hello, try adding 'wavelan' to the panel
[22:06] <gry-> right click it, panel, add new items
[22:07] <segundo> missing the wifi icon on the panel xfceanyone how know rescue?
[22:07] <gry-> I just told you the answer
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> gry-  put the name of the person in front of your comment
[22:15] <segundo> gry-, wavelan is a app?
[22:15] <gry> it is a panel applet
[22:15] <chercheur> hello
[22:16] <segundo> ah, ok
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> gry-  type seg [tab] and see what happens
[22:16] <gry> yup, I do that when there's a bit more folks in the room :)
[22:17] <segundo> am installing
[22:17] <segundo> thank you
[22:17] <gry> ok
[22:18] <ques> Hi, how do i disable Virtualbox network interfaces (adapters) on ubuntu? thanks in advance
[22:19] <k1l> !away > megabit|away
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> ques  in the machine's settings: Network - uncheck 'enable adapter'
[22:21] <gre-> i have an asus x750L and i have BIG problems with Ubuntu, touchpad isn't detected and FN+1-12 keys aren't too
[22:21] <gre-> Please i really need some help..
[22:22] <ques> thanks monkey
[22:26] <gre-> Nobody?
[22:26] <gre-> nobody met same problems with an asus?
[22:26] <gre-> no touchpad and no fn keys enable
[22:26] <gry> is it a zenbook or not?
[22:27] <gre-> it is not
[22:27] <gry> ok
[22:27] <gre-> its a notebook pc
[22:28] <gre-> X750LB
[22:28] <gbonics> hey all
[22:28] <gre-> i just bought it today
[22:28] <vilambit> how do I fix resume working with the nouveau driver on 14.04?
[22:28] <gre-> and i can't use it
[22:29] <gry> is xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed?
[22:29] <gre-> because to enable wireless i have to press fn+2
[22:29] <gre-> or i can't
[22:29] <gbonics> I have a problem with WiFi on a Lenovo Yoga 2
[22:30] <k1l> gre-: stop thinking about the fn keys
[22:30] <k1l> gre-: get to know if the wifi chip is supported or if it needs some extra work.
[22:30] <gry> the fn keys are rather useful for switching to the ttys though
[22:30] <gre-> its supported
[22:31] <k1l> gre-: then is it seen n "rfkill list" ?
[22:31] <gry> good; try installing the thing that I mentioned if not already
[22:31] <gre-> and yes gry
[22:31] <gry> ok, I'll let k1l lead, that's a better approach :)
[22:31] <gre-> input-synaptics is installed
[22:31] <gre-> k1l: nothing into
[22:32] <k1l> then get to know which module is needed to be loaded and see if you need another package for that etc
[22:32] <gbonics> gre what computer do you have
[22:32] <gre-> asus X750LB
[22:32] <gbonics> no wifi?
[22:33] <gbonics> 14.04
[22:33] <gre-> wifi yes but to enable it i have to press fn+2 and i can't press any fn, no touchpad as well
[22:33] <gre-> 14.04 yes
[22:33] <gre-> k1l: where can i know it ?
[22:34] <gbonics> anyone have wifi success with a yoga 2
[22:34] <gre-> i read many threads..
[22:34] <gre-> people are crying for the same problem
[22:35] <gre-> i read there is a driver from asus but only for windows
[22:35] <gre-> ATK package
[22:35] <gre-> its the only way to fix my issue...
[22:35] <gre-> but i don't want to back to win8, indeed
[22:36] <gbonics> neither do i
[22:36] <whirlpool> why not?
[22:37] <gbonics> I'm a *nix guy
[22:37] <gbonics> I only need windows for some admin tools
[22:39] <whirlpool> freebsd?
[22:40] <vilambit> how do I fix resume working with the nouveau driver on 14.04?
[22:40] <nahtnam> Hello. I am running 14.04 desktop and for some random reason its reading everything off my screen for me. How can I turn it off?
[22:41] <nahtnam> Its annoying as hell!
[22:41] <vilambit> pkill -9 orca
[22:41] <k1l> nahtnam: alt+super+s
[22:41] <nahtnam> Thanks guys! :)
[22:44] <fego> 1
[22:50] <segundo> applet which to measure the signal strength of wifi?
[22:51] <segundo> in panel of xfce
[22:52] <segundo> anyone help me?
[22:54] <k1l> segundo: try this? http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-wavelan-plugin (first google result)
[22:55] <segundo> how to run it?
[22:56] <gry> k1l, https://pastee.org/yw5jz
[22:56] <gry> segundo, right click it, panel, add new items, wavelan
[22:56] <k1l> segundo: see the documentation on the projects side
[22:56] <gry> I believe it's packaged though so if it's not in the list then there should be a package
[22:57] <gry> k1l, the apt-get install -f got stuck on this one: https://pastee.org/yw5jz
[22:57] <k1l> su: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session
[22:58] <k1l> there seems to be a lot wrong on that system :/
[22:58] <gry> that's what happens when someone makes a release and doesn't take it into account that users like gry will have some broken packages which would abort the installer
[22:59] <segundo> it does not work
[22:59] <segundo> does not show strength on the panel icon
[23:00] <gry> I logged in as root (a horrid thing to do) and it complains about dpkg-divert only, not about the su, now
[23:00] <ikonia> gry: what happened with your wireless card ?
[23:00] <ikonia> did you do the upgrade, or just the kernel ?
[23:00] <gry> ikonia: I'm doing the upgrade and it's stuck half-way through so I'm afraid that I'll need to do a clean install
[23:00] <k1l> gry: ubuntu has automated testing for the upgrades. but that includes only the official ubuntu packages and not stuff that is changed.
[23:00] <ikonia> gry: how very frustrating
[23:01] <gry> ikonia: (I ran into this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453831/help-online-upgrade-from-12-04-to-14-04-stuck . Then I closed off the install and run into other problems: https://pastee.org/9meyg) (did without -d, rant into https://pastee.org/zx8j5) (https://pastee.org/yw5jz)
[23:02] <gry> k1l: yes, I'm assuming it's some perl package which isn't builtin which had a problem and wasn't tested.. it's from the repos though
[23:03] <ikonia> I'm still not convinced by the upgrade process.
[23:04] <Isabella18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1otJNif
[23:04] <daftykins> ikonia: being in here certainly doesn't give upgrades much positive press, does it? :)
[23:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Does anyone know about awesome wm?
[23:05] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ask your actual question :)
[23:05] <k1l> !awesome | GuyThatNeedsHelp
[23:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> !awesome
[23:05] <ikonia> daftykins: I think in a very controlled situation/case with someone who understands the process/risks it's quite solid, but blindly hitting upgrade, I'm still not comfortable with it
 Sorry, I don't know anything about awesome
[23:05] <ikonia> and to be honest, I don't think it's needed as a process
[23:06] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Welp, in the lua script "Debian menu" google chrome is missing
[23:06] <gry> ikonia: what is not needed as a process?
[23:06] <ikonia> gry: the upgrade process
[23:07] <TJ-> gry: "su: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session" is a libpam issue... possibly stuck inbetween two states
[23:07] <gry> ikonia: then people would have to burn CDs all the time
[23:07] <ikonia> gry: once every 5 years......
[23:07] <gry> heh
[23:08] <gry> to think of it, if it doesn't fix itself then I'll probably have to do that
[23:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Anyone know where google chrome is installed?
[23:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Debian_menu["Debian_Applications_Network_Web"] = {
[23:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp>         {"Google Chrome", }
[23:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> }
[23:08] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: how did you install it ?
[23:08] <gry> in my case it is in /usr/bin/chromium-browser
[23:09] <ikonia> gry: thats the official google repo package isn't it ?
[23:09] <TJ-> gry: this comment on an old 'same' bug may well help you get past the current issue and then fix things afterwards  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/259867/comments/22
[23:09] <natediddy> I think it is in /opt/google
[23:09] <sodomite> "which chrome"
[23:09] <gry> yes
[23:09] <natediddy> there's a link to the /opt location in /usr/bin
[23:09] <natediddy> for chrome
[23:10] <pdo_fn14> !mint
[23:10] <gry> TJ-: so if I can authenticate, I just do the numbered steps right? or do I still need to do the unnumbered step in the first paragraph as well?
[23:12] <TJ-> gry: If you can boot into recovery, then do the 'Alternatively' instruction paragraph
[23:13] <gry> TJ-: I'm logged in right now -- assuming the pam_permit step is also needed so will do it as well
[23:14] <TJ-> gry: that's one of the key steps, yes. Bear in mind that bug report is from a long time ago, so the *precise* steps may need 'consideration' if they don't match what you find in "common-session"
[23:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HALP
[23:32] <sudormrf> GuyThatNeedsHelp, what's up?
[23:32] <sudormrf> !ask | GuyThatNeedsHelp
[23:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Lua script for the menu of the awesome wm
[23:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i want google chrome to appear in the menu
[23:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and i need the directory for google chrome
[23:33] <ROODAY> can anyone help me with pipelight?
[23:34] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: whereis google-chrome
[23:34] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: in a your shell
[23:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Thats what i'm asking
[23:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Debian_menu["Debian_Applications_Network_Web"] = {
[23:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 	{"Google Chrome", "" }
[23:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> }
[23:35] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: shadowe989 just told you a command. run it.
[23:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I LOVE U
[23:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> SHADOWE
[23:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i think
[23:36] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Good luck with your project. :)
[23:36] <ROODAY> does anyone here have any experience with pipelight?
[23:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HACKED google-chrome: /usr/bin/google-chrome /usr/bin/X11/google-chrome /usr/share/man/man1/google-chrome.1
[23:37] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: its /usr/bin/google-chrome
[23:37] <lasers> cree
[23:37] <natediddy> GuyThatNeedsHelp, those are symlinks. I think it's actually in /opt/google/chrome
[23:38] <shadowe989> natediddy: but your path wont be set to /opt i think hes making a .deb package for lua program
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> fat@fatyt:/opt/google/chrome$ l
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> chrome*                 libppGoogleNaClPluginChrome.so  product_logo_22.png
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> chrome_100_percent.pak  libudev.so.0@                   product_logo_24.png
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> chrome-sandbox*         libwidevinecdmadapter.so        product_logo_256.png
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> cron/                   libwidevinecdm.so               product_logo_32.png
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> default-app-block       locales/                        product_logo_32.xpm
[23:38] <unopaste> GuyThatNeedsHelp you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:39] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: use paste.ubuntu.com
[23:39] <natediddy> shadowe989, yeah you're right, my bad
[23:40] <shadowe989> natediddy: it happens :)
[23:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> How would i do this?
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Debian_menu["Debian_Applications_Network_Web"] = {
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 	{"Google Chrome", "" }
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> }
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I don't know anything about lua
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> an example
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> {"Wireshark","/usr/bin/wireshark","/usr/share/pixmaps/wsicon32.xpm"},
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> }
[23:42] <rio_zenta> Hello
[23:42] <natediddy> GuyThatNeedsHelp, put the path to google-chrome in the second field after Google-Chrome
[23:42] <sp0on> hello
[23:42] <skinux> Does 'du' utility count amount of spaced used by files in directories of "cloud drives" (e.g. DropBox, Ubuntu One)?
[23:42] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> which one is the real path?
[23:43] <natediddy> GuyThatNeedsHelp, {"Google-Chrome", "/ur/bin/google-chrome"}
[23:43] <natediddy> "/usr/bin/google-chrome"
[23:43] <rooday_> hey can anyone help with pipelight?
[23:44] <rooday_> please?
[23:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> THANK YOU NATEDIDDY
[23:44] <rio_zenta> which line of text do I change in the preseed.config file so that I can install ubuntu server through wubi?
[23:45] <ikonia> you don't use wubi
[23:45] <rooday_> ?
[23:46] <rio_zenta> ikonia: Under my circumstances, wubi is the only option
[23:46] <natediddy> GuyThatNeedsHelp, no problem, good luck
[23:46] <ikonia> rio_zenta: then you need to focus on changing your situation
[23:46] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I add a drive to the fstab from a gui?  (or step by step instruction on how to do it with a GUID)
[23:46] <rio_zenta> ikonia: The situation is out of my control, this is my only option
[23:47] <rooday_> can anyone help me install pipelight?
[23:47] <ikonia> rio_zenta: then feedback that it is not an acceptable situaiton
[23:47] <rooday_> i tried following the instructions on the fsd site
[23:47] <pfifo> when I turn the volume up, my output starts switching between headphone and analog out. and when I turn the volume up on my mixstation the input starts switching from line in to rear mic to front mic. This is completly killing me here. What can I do to resolve this? Why cant pulse audio and alsa just do everything manually instead of trying to decide what I the administrator decide is best? Im on 12.04
[23:47] <rooday_> but pipelight still wont work
[23:48] <daftykins> rio_zenta: genuinely, something is seriously wrong if you believe WUBI to be your only avenue.
[23:49] <rio_zenta> daftykins: I need an ubuntu-server system on an old winXP system and I cannot remove the winXP, as it contains important software that I use.
[23:49] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you can still repartition
[23:49] <ikonia> you could buy a second disk
[23:49] <ikonia> you could buy/use a different machine
[23:50] <ikonia> there are many options that are not wubi
[23:50] <daftykins> +10 to ikonia
[23:50] <rio_zenta> ikonia: I've read that installing ubuntu after winXP is not a good idea.
[23:51] <jleems86> does anyone want to offer some btrfs-related advice?
[23:51] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you've read wrong
[23:51] <jleems86> rio_zenta: if your wiping the XP, i don't see how it could possibly interfere with the new Ubuntu install
[23:51] <rio_zenta> What exactly do you mean when you say that I can install ubuntu onto a second disk? Is it even possible to boot from 2 disks?
[23:52] <ikonia> rio_zenta: your bios dictates where to boot from
[23:52] <rio_zenta> jleems86: I am restricted in being unable to wipe winXP. I'd do it if I could, but this enterprise software doesn't like linux (I've tried asking them).
[23:52] <jleems86> i just joined, i don't think i'm aware of the context of your situation
[23:52] <ikonia> rio_zenta: if this machine is so important, why are you messing around with it ?
[23:53] <rio_zenta> ikonia, I don't recall a BIOS allowing one to boot from 2 HDDs, but perhaps I am wrong there.
[23:53] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you can always put the boot loader on the first disk to allow it to select the first/second disk
[23:53] <ikonia> rio_zenta: but if this XP box is so critical, why are you considering doing anything to it
[23:53] <rio_zenta> ikonia, that is the reason why I am doing a wubi install. I don't have another system and wubi is the "safe" option. it won't be as risky as a partition.
[23:53] <ikonia> rio_zenta: wubi is not safe at all
[23:53] <jleems86> rio_zenta: the bios can only load the boot-loader from a single disk, but I think the boot-loader can load the OS from any disk it can read in the system
[23:54] <ikonia> rio_zenta: if this machine is so important - you should not be doing anything form it
[23:54] <shadowe989_afk> ikonia: I agree 100%
[23:54] <jleems86> what exactly are you trying to accomplish rio_zenta ?
[23:54] <c4rt3r> anyone using FON WiFi here?
[23:55] <jleems86> c4rt3r: is FON a manufacturer brand?
[23:55] <hicap> I have ubuntu 14.04 and I want to install a 32 bit program, but the ubuntu is 64 bit
[23:55] <hicap> is there some magic to allow for that?
[23:55] <c4rt3r> ermm not really jleems86 its like a router sharing program
[23:55] <rio_zenta> jleems86: I need a small part-time server to run a couple of experiments on. Mainly to test some enterprise software. It will have minimal use beyond that.
[23:56] <rooday_> ???????????
[23:56] <rooday_> anyone?
[23:56] <gry> what?
[23:56] <nith1210> hicap: There is magic, it should be transparent.
[23:56] <rooday_> pipelight refuses to work for me
[23:56] <rooday_> on both firefox and chromium
[23:56] <gry> what does it do instead of working?
[23:56] <rio_zenta> rooday_: What is pipelight?
[23:56] <rooday_> silverlight for ubuntu
[23:56] <hicap> nith1210 well I can't install it :(
[23:56] <rooday_> read linux*
[23:57] <hicap> ./IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
[23:57] <hicap> bash: ./IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx: No such file or directory
[23:57] <rooday_> it pretty much runs silverlight through wine and sends it to the browser
[23:57] <rooday_> it used to work for me
[23:57] <rooday_> but not it just doesnt work
[23:57] <rooday_> trying netflix takes me to the page saying what sytems are supported
[23:57] <gry> again: what does it do instead of working? can you run it from terminal and see if it gives an error message?
[23:57] <gry> oh, okay, the website complains. that's something.
[23:57] <rooday_> using a user agent switcher for windows firefox 15 and then clicking a video tells me to install firefox
[23:57] <rooday_> the thing is
[23:57] <rooday_> pipelight isnt crashing
[23:58] <rooday_> no errors either when starting
[23:58] <rooday_> when i do --enable silverlight it says enabled without anything else
[23:58] <gry> try asking over at #pipelight then
[23:58] <rooday_> kk
[23:58] <nith1210> hicap: That indicates you are probably in the wrong directory
[23:58] <nith1210> hicap: when you type "ls IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx" you should see the file details.
[23:58] <hicap> hicap@hicap-HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC:~/tim/work/win7$ ls IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
[23:58] <hicap> IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
[23:59] <nith1210> hicap: "file IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx"
[23:59] <nith1210> hicap: the script might be what's giving that error
[23:59] <c4rt3r> anyone got this working in precise http://wiki.maemo.org/WISPr_Wireless_ISP_Autologin#Automated_WISPr_hotspot_login
[23:59] <hicap> file IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
[23:59] <hicap> IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped