[00:00] <hicap> I think it is because this is 64 bit: uname -a
[00:00] <hicap> Linux hicap-HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:00] <nith1210> hicap: Is it a desktop ubuntu installation?
[00:00] <hicap> yes
[00:01] <nith1210> hicap: what does "echo $TERM"
[00:01] <nith1210> hicap: give you?
[00:01] <nith1210> hicap: sorry, echo $SHELL
[00:02] <hicap>  echo $SHELL
[00:02] <hicap> /bin/bash
[00:02] <nith1210> hicap: so here's what I think is happening. I think the executable is trying to run bash internally and failing.
[00:02] <nith1210> hicap: type "not_a_command" into the terminal
[00:03] <nith1210> hicap: the error looks different than yours
[00:03] <c4rt3r> where can Crypt::SSLeay be found in Precise repos does it come under crypt++el
[00:03] <hicap> not_a_command
[00:03] <hicap> not_a_command: command not found
[00:03] <nith1210> hicap: What I can tell you is that a lot of work has gone into running 32-bit applications. You can, in fact, install 32-bit apps from the repository by appending :i386 to the package name
[00:03] <nith1210> hicap: right, notice that your original error was prefixed with "bash: "
[00:04] <hicap> nith1210 look at this: askubuntu.com/questions/133216/trouble-installing-java-due-to-install-sfx-not-found-error
[00:04] <nith1210> !multilib | hicap
[00:05] <rio_zenta> If I install ubuntu desktop and remove the GUI and other non-essentials, will I be able to move into ubuntu server?
[00:05] <nith1210> !multiarch | hicap
[00:05] <nith1210> wow, this isn't working for me
[00:05] <hicap> nith1210 so you don't think that makes sense?
[00:05] <nith1210> hicap: That thread indicates that dependancies for the 32-bit java they were running were missing (you still need to install dependencies)
[00:06] <zykotick9> nith1210: fyi, i never found a multiarch factoid from ubottu...  i have looked a couple of times.
[00:06] <nith1210> hicap: ia32-libs is no longer the way in 14.04, you install the package with the :i386 suffix
[00:06] <hicap> nith1210 I am open to suggestions I am so stuck
[00:06] <hicap> I am just lost
[00:07] <koell> fucking firefox crashes 100 times a day just browsing the web -.-
[00:07] <khd> someone wanna catck me up on the problem?
[00:07] <hicap> khd is that to me?
[00:07] <nith1210> hicap: you may be missing a dependency which you need to install but you'll have to read the manual for that installer to figure out what y'ure missing
[00:07] <khd> sure
[00:08] <hicap> modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools#downloads downloaded IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx and chmod +x then ./IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx and get bash: ./IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx: No such file or directory on 64 bit ubuntu 14.04
[00:08] <hicap> have no idea what to do
[00:11] <nith1210> !apt
[00:11] <rio_zenta> seems like I can do this with wubi: http://www.darrinhodges.com/converting-ubuntu-12-04-lts-desktop-to-server/
[00:11] <apb1963> Does anyone have a list of dirs/files to backup and/or exclude from backup they don't mind sharing?  For example I don't think I want /etc/mtab* or /var/run but I do want /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow.  I've finally decided to use BackInTime which is a GUI front end for rsync, and although it comes preconfigured with some exclusions, I've found it doesn't have a complete list.
[00:11] <rio_zenta> Any reasons why any of you think it can't be done?
[00:12] <rio_zenta> apb1963: what is the purpose of your backup?
[00:12] <apb1963> rio_zenta: To not lose data mostly...
[00:13] <bish0p_> My Skype doesn't recognize my webcam on Ubuntu 12.4, but other applications do. How can I fix this?
[00:13] <rio_zenta> apb1963: Then do a manual backup of your user-data only. You could keep 1 rsync of everything except for installs and your user-data and keep your user-data in a separate place.
[00:15] <bmuk> I would like to automatically sync files/settings/etc from my desktop (ubuntu 14.04) to my phone (nexus 5, cataclysm). What are my options?
[00:15] <nith1210> !multiarch is a new approach to running programs compiled for one architecture on another. This allows you to run 32-bit applications on 64-bit systems (i386 <--> amd64). For more information, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch and/or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[00:16] <nith1210> zykotick9: Assuming I haven't botched it, that should solve that longer term (after op approval).
[00:16] <apb1963> rio_zenta: I guess I didn't really understand your question... or you didn't understand my answer... or I don't understand YOUR answer....  I want to include anything and everything that has changed, that I can't recover simply by reinstalling.  Such as /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and anything else.
[00:16] <rio_zenta> sounds like a mission, bmuk. Perhaps you can email the stuff to yourself.
[00:16] <zykotick9> nith1210: TBO, i really don'
[00:16] <zykotick9> t know how factoid get added/removed.
[00:17] <nith1210> zykotick9: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins#Adding_a_factoid
[00:17] <SchrodingersScat> bmuk: owncloud, syncthing and btsync can sync files between computer and phone..
[00:17] <bmuk> I'll check out owncloud, thanks
[00:18] <rio_zenta> apb1963: That is what rsync will take care of. You backup everything excluding the install files. You can also exclude your user-data and keep it separate. The reason why I say this is for "separation of concerns". You want your user data to not be locked in to a system backup.
[00:18] <internetisntwork> I've got questions, mind if I ask them?
[00:18] <rio_zenta> SchrodingersScat: Does owncloud support ubuntu file syncing?
[00:18] <nith1210> !ask | internetisntwork
[00:18] <apb1963> rio_zenta: So, how do I exclude the install files?  What dir are they in?
[00:19] <rio_zenta> internetisntwork: Don't ask to ask, just ask :-)
[00:19] <zykotick9> nith1210: thanks, i don't ever recall seeing that page before ;)
[00:19] <rio_zenta> apb1963 let me consult with some of my previous info to tell you what I was told about doing an rysnc for my server backup.
[00:19] <internetisntwork> Internet suddenly went full retard after I rebooted.  14.04, no updating involved, nothing.
[00:20] <internetisntwork> eth0's still alive but wired won't work.
[00:20] <rio_zenta> internetisntwork: Can you or do you know how to access logs?
[00:20] <internetisntwork> Networks are detected by nm but can't be connected to.
[00:20] <internetisntwork> I'll learn if I don't know!
[00:21] <SchrodingersScat> rio_zenta, bmuk : not sure if the owncloud phone app will auto sync a folder actually.. but you would have access to the files
[00:21] <daftykins> alive in what way?
[00:21] <internetisntwork> It shows on ifconfig
[00:21] <apb1963> I love it when my IRC client crashes every 5 minutes whether I want it to or not
[00:21] <apb1963> rio_zenta: OK, thank you
[00:22] <internetisntwork> Oh, also, the modules indicated by lspci -nn for my hardware aren't found.
[00:22] <daftykins> internetisntwork: what kind of computer? laptop?
[00:23] <internetisntwork> Gateway w340ui laptop
[00:23] <internetisntwork> Results of lspci -nn:
[00:24] <daftykins> internetisntwork: but you're saying it's worked fine until now?
[00:24] <internetisntwork> Yeah, perfectly.
[00:24] <daftykins> internetisntwork: have you tried to statically address the interface to see it'll still work?
[00:25] <internetisntwork> No, I've not.
[00:25] <daftykins> do you know your router's IP?
[00:25] <internetisntwork> I can find it.
[00:25] <rio_zenta> apb1963: I currently don't have access to my previous info, but I can check for you. I would recommend you possibly ask the more advanced users in #ubuntu-server concerning which folders to leave out when using rsync, as that is what I did.
[00:26] <apb1963> rio_zenta: 'k.  Thank you :)
[00:26] <skinux> Does Ubuntu keep many previous versions of hard disk in encrypted state?
[00:26] <rio_zenta> skinux, what do you mean encrypted state?
[00:26] <hicap> this was the answer!  www.hellotecho.com/ubuntu-extracting-sfx-no-such-file-or-directory
[00:26] <SchrodingersScat> Siebjee: what do you mean previous versions of hard disk?
[00:26] <internetisntwork> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.88E8038 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller [11ab:4352] (rev 4)   <linebreak>  Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8185] (rev 20)
 try: dhclient eth0
[00:27] <apb1963> rio_zenta: I started googling after I asked the question.  Found a list.  It doesn't look complete, but it's a heck of a start.
[00:27] <skinux> When you logout hard disk is encrypted and user password (obtained during login) is required to decrypt.
[00:27] <rio_zenta> apb1963 for me it was 3 folders I excluded, then again, there are major differences between the packages on desktop vs. server
[00:28] <rio_zenta> skinux, AFAIK it isn't encrypted. You can possibly run a USB linux and access the files. There is an option at install to make it encrypted though.
[00:28] <daftykins> internetisntwork: so you should have two interfaces from 'ifconfig -a' ?
 or: dhclient -v eth0
[00:29] <internetisntwork> I do, I have an eth0 and a wlan0 along with the loopback
[00:30] <daftykins> internetisntwork: excellent, so you could try what pngo just suggested
[00:30] <internetisntwork> I am right now
[00:30] <internetisntwork> What should I report; it's still running.
[00:30] <gry> k1l or anyone: does step '4' mean 'apt-get upgrade' or something else? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/259867/comments/22
[00:31] <gry> and what do I do about this? https://pastee.org/985bq
[00:31] <rio_zenta> internetisntwork: First get into router settings and test the connection itself.
[00:31] <internetisntwork> The connection itself is functional; I'm on it right now via a different machine.
[00:31] <internetisntwork> Did I comprehend you correctly?
[00:31] <daftykins> rio_zenta: come now, he's clearly online
[00:32] <internetisntwork> I could be on a different connection, of course. :P
[00:32] <rio_zenta> daftykins: I couldn't assume that he was using the same connection. Clearly he is though.
[00:32] <daftykins> heh
[00:33] <gry> mm, 'apt-get dist-upgrade" appears to be picking those up, will try it
[00:33] <rio_zenta> internetisntwork: There is 1 thing you "could" try. Have you tried restarting your machine?
[00:33] <daftykins> internetisntwork: so nothing obvious happening from the dhclient command is it?
[00:33] <internetisntwork> The intervals (so far) that DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 are {3,6,13,11,15,11,7,12,21,20,21,17,11,9,13,13,8,12...
[00:33] <daftykins> sounds like it's not communicating at all then
[00:33] <internetisntwork> It's trying, not sure if anything's actually happening
[00:33] <internetisntwork> Yeah.
[00:33] <internetisntwork> If this is a ping, there's no response.
[00:34] <skinux> Yes, at install I chose to use encryption.
[00:34] <internetisntwork> Should I pause the command and run it on wlan0?
[00:34] <rio_zenta> skinux, then the drive should be encrypted. As to what type of encryption, it could possibly be username/password encryption
[00:34] <internetisntwork> I mean, I've got no wlan functional in the hardware as much as I understand, but...
[00:35] <internetisntwork> It just ented, no DHCPOFFERS recieved; no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[00:35] <daftykins> internetisntwork: no, you'd have to be associated to a wireless network for DHCP to be a possibility
[00:35] <internetisntwork> *ended
[00:35] <apb1963> rio_zenta: I think I may want to exclude things like /bin /usr/bin /lib and so on.... if something gets corrupted I suppose I can reinstall from a package
 can you: ifconfig eth0
[00:35] <internetisntwork> sure
[00:36] <internetisntwork> Do you want it all?
[00:36] <internetisntwork> It'll take a bit of typing
[00:36] <pngo> yes
[00:36] <daftykins> that seems like a waste of time to me
[00:36] <internetisntwork> Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:25:41:f4:cb
[00:36] <rio_zenta> apb1963 I also recall what I think is "proc" that can be excluded. Let me just check what is inside there.
[00:37] <internetisntwork> inet6 addr: fe80::203:25ff:fe41:f4cb/64 Scope:Link
[00:37] <daftykins>  /proc is the kernel
[00:37] <skinux> rio_zenta: I'm simply wondering how many previous encrypted versions are stored. When I see it in results from DU it appears it could be several.
[00:37] <internetisntwork> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500  METRIC:1
[00:37] <internetisntwork> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[00:37] <rio_zenta> skinux what do you mean previous encrypted versions?
[00:37] <skinux> Yes.
[00:37] <internetisntwork> TX packets:1703 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[00:38] <internetisntwork> collisions:0 txquelen:1000
[00:38] <internetisntwork> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:362871 (that in KB)
[00:38] <internetisntwork> Interrupt:16
[00:38] <internetisntwork> there you go
[00:38] <apb1963> rio_zenta: yes.  /proc, /var/run /tmp /var/tmp  ... tons of things to not back up
[00:38] <skinux> Oh...I mean encrypted archives, not versions of software.
[00:39] <rio_zenta> Follow the instructions from a thread deemed trustworthy (like an ubuntu guide on ubuntu.com or along those lines) @ apb1963
[00:39] <internetisntwork> I'm going to make gravy, but I'll keep tabs on the IRC
[00:40] <rio_zenta> Follow the instructions from a thread deemed trustworthy (like an ubuntu guide on ubuntu.com or along those lines) @ apb1963
[00:40] <skinux> I'm talking about files stored at /home/.ecryptfs/<user>/.Private/
[00:41] <rio_zenta> skinux I'm not familiar with that stuff, sorry.
[00:41] <apb1963> rio_zenta: yeah, looking at various threads...  everybody has "additional" files.
[00:41] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: afaik that doesn't copy anything, just encrypts it for you, if you deleted a file from the folder then it would be gone
[00:42] <rio_zenta> archives would quickly fill up a system if they're backing up, unless it is smart enough to backup updates only.
[00:43] <internetisntwork> Right now, nm isn't detecting anything - a new development
 try this: dhclient -v -4 eth0
[00:43] <internetisntwork> okay
[00:44] <internetisntwork> dhclient -v eth0 didn't work just now, but I'll run it with that option also
[00:44] <internetisntwork> It doesn't look like it's getting anything.
[00:44] <internetisntwork> Also, I've removed the ethernet cable from the machine.
[00:45] <pngo> but try with -4
[00:45] <skinux> Well, there are probably 50 generated files (may be directories) inside of /.ecryptfs/<user>?/.Private/
[00:45] <internetisntwork> Iam
[00:45] <internetisntwork> It's using another xid but still doesn't look very functional.
[00:46] <internetisntwork> May I ask what that option does?
[00:46] <pngo> it uses ipv4 instead of ipv6
[00:46] <internetisntwork> Ah.
[00:47] <internetisntwork> Okay, it's about to finish, with no response from the (router?)
[00:47] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: generated?  Yeah, when you put a file into /home/user/Private then the system encrypts it in the .Private
[00:48] <pngo> how about sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[00:48] <pngo> and than sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[00:48] <Temper> does anyone have an example of setting up Intel's 7260 mpcie 802.11ac card in AP/Managed mode?
[00:49] <skinux> Wow! Well, all the encrypted stuff is taking up 2.5G of disk space.
[00:49] <internetisntwork> pngo: they ran, no output fro meither
[00:49] <Viking667> hi all, now I'm having an issue on a 14.04-64 machine, with VLC. It can't play a particular blu-ray movie stream from MakeMKV, claiming Codec H264-MPEG4 (part 10) isn't supported.
[00:49] <Viking667> so. Where do I look to fix THIS problem?
[00:50] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: well, it's stuff you decided was worth encrypting, not sure why this seems impressive?
[00:51] <pngo> still nothing?
[00:51] <daftykins> Viking667: i'm not sure that encrypted bluray content through makemkv really constitutes a topic to be supported here
[00:51] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: if you move those files out of Private, you'll still have 2.5gb in whatever directory you moved them..
[00:51] <internetisntwork> pngo: nope
[00:52] <Douglas> someone can help me?
[00:52] <daftykins> Douglas: ask away
[00:54] <Douglas> I upgrade my ubuntu for the version 14.04
[00:55] <Douglas> and my ubuntu is slow
[00:55] <Douglas> sorry my bad english
[00:56] <internetisntwork> Any theories as to what's going on behind the broken networking?  What mystifies me is no packages were modified or updated - all that happened was the machine was rebooted.  Makes me think either config issues or hardware problems.
[00:57] <Dark_Cookie> alguem do brasil?
[00:57] <daftykins> internetisntwork: this is going to sound ridiculous, but power off, disconnect the mains power and the battery, then put the battery back in and start up again
[00:57] <internetisntwork> no
[00:58] <internetisntwork> daftykins: sure.
[00:58] <internetisntwork> Doesn't sound weird at all, given what I've been through before with this sob laptop. :P
[00:58] <daftykins> :D
[00:58] <bluezone> wifi sucks that's the problem
[00:58] <bluezone> ever since i started using wires everything works :)
[00:59] <internetisntwork> Ethernet's broke also. :)
[00:59] <internetisntwork> Wires aren't helping in this case.
[00:59] <bluezone> ah, then you're finished haha, i don't even think it could be a drivier issue in that case
[00:59] <bluezone> driver*
[00:59] <internetisntwork> Yeah.
[01:00] <internetisntwork> Okay unrelatedly, how do I get the boot splash back to the standard ubuntu?
[01:00] <Beldar> bluezone, mmmm highly generalized info not even relation, an opinion.
[01:00] <Beldar> related*
[01:00] <Dark_Cookie>  someone know something about the android sdk?
[01:00] <internetisntwork> Got it stuck on gnome after a little failed stint with that DE.
[01:00] <internetisntwork> Ooh, this is weird.
[01:00] <internetisntwork> "Waiting for network configuration..."
[01:00] <internetisntwork> Never see that before.
[01:00] <daftykins> careful guys, we need to keep things on support only in here, chatter can be had in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <internetisntwork> "Continue to wait, or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[01:01] <bluezone> Beldar, it's perfectly related, whenever wifi is involved, people have to know that it's not as stable as wired
[01:01] <internetisntwork> That's always there but. the ntwork thing isn't.
[01:01] <Dark_Cookie> daftykins:  you know something about the android sdk?
[01:01] <Beldar> Dark_Cookie, Address the issue for help. ;)
[01:01] <internetisntwork> "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration"
[01:02] <daftykins> internetisntwork: that's not good, even if it's on every boot
[01:02] <internetisntwork> "Booting system without full network configuration"
[01:02] <daftykins> or rather, especially if it's on every boot
[01:02] <internetisntwork> The mounting issue?
[01:02] <daftykins> yeah
[01:02] <internetisntwork> Eww.
[01:02] <internetisntwork> 's been around for up to... mmm, 5 months?
[01:03] <Dark_Cookie> Beldar, after I have uninstalled some programs, the android sdk in emulator not connect to internet
[01:03] <daftykins> internetisntwork: you haven't got a camera you can take a picture of all these messages with, have you?
[01:03] <internetisntwork> Hehe.
[01:03] <internetisntwork> Really?
[01:03] <nerdys0uth> internetisntwork: i think i had the same issue
[01:03] <internetisntwork> I'll reboot it and shoot photos.
[01:03] <Beldar> Dark_Cookie, Not to me the channel is all. I would try #android and ##linux as well, maybe even #ubuntu-touch
[01:03] <daftykins> yeah
[01:04] <internetisntwork> IDK if it's related, but I'd had a humungous kernal panic issue about a month ago.
[01:04] <internetisntwork> *spelling
[01:04] <nerdys0uth> internetisntwork: try, in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf  setting  [ifupdown] managed=false
[01:04] <internetisntwork> I'd already changed that to true
[01:05] <Dark_Cookie> Beldar.. ok.. I am a new user in this chat.. what is the objetive?
[01:07] <Beldar> Dark_Cookie, This is ubuntu-support, android sdk is not really a ubuntu issue, however if someone here knows it you may get help. I have rarely see this discussed here, the objective is getting you the right help. ;)
[01:07] <Beldar> seen*
[01:08] <Dark_Cookie> Beldar ok.. thanks..
[01:08] <internetisntwork> nerdys0uth: I'd set that to true before I entered the IRC
[01:08] <Beldar> Dark_Cookie, Your role here is to state the issue, and wait for help in general, you do not want to randomly ask others.
[01:09] <Apteryx> By any chance, would there be someone with good skills to help me debug my bluetooth?
[01:09] <zykotick9> internetisntwork: assuming this is eth0, is there any eth0 configuration in /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:09] <Viking667> so. Is there someone that can help debug why I can't play a blu-ray using programs I bought?
[01:09] <Viking667> (using VLC and MakeMKV)
[01:09] <internetisntwork> Okay, hoorah.  daftykins is hard power reboot worked.
[01:09] <internetisntwork> Thanks!
[01:09] <daftykins> :)
[01:10] <internetisntwork> And thanks to everybody else.
[01:10] <daftykins> for more crazy solutions, buy my book...
[01:10] <daftykins> (just kidding, i have no book)
[01:10] <internetisntwork> :D
[01:10] <xubuntu11> http://blockchain.com
[01:10] <Macer> uhm. no idea why but now my dock doesn't seem to release the mouse  :/
[01:10] <eskrima> hi can anyone help me understand if ubuntu 12.10 is no longer supported ? i just recieved a message on my laptop screen about that concern... thankyou
[01:11] <pngo> internetisntwork: try this: ping6 -c4 -I eth0 ff02::1
[01:12] <Beldar> eskrima, Can you be more clear?
[01:12] <eskrima> also it says to update to 13.10? i really do not want to as i dont know if it supported for longer
[01:12] <eskrima> beldar well that is it. i use 12.10 on my laptop but i just recieved today the message to upgrade to 13.10 as 12.10 is no longer supported
[01:12] <Beldar> eskrima, 13.10 is supported that info easily found on the web
[01:13] <nith1210> !release | eskrima
[01:13] <Beldar> supported till july
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys randomly Xubuntu 12.04 Freezes, and no keys work, i have to do a cold reset, i ran a memory test and my memory is fine
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do next to diagnose this issue
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> it happens randomly
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> no keys work when it freeze
[01:13] <eskrima> beldar oh ok. but someone recommended me some time ago to not upgrate to 13.10 i just dont want to upgrade because im afraid it will only be supported for a little time and than will not work good on my laptop/ is that true?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> eskrima:  In addition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases , End of life -> Ubuntu 12.10
[01:14] <Bashing-om> Quantal Quetzal
[01:14] <Bashing-om> Tech / Rel
[01:14] <Bashing-om> October 18, 2012
[01:14] <Bashing-om> May 16, 2014.
[01:14] <eskrima> beldar will it change a lot my current setting and what to expect?
[01:14] <daftykins> eskrima: you may want to backup your data and upgrade to 14.04
[01:15] <Beldar> eskrima, I don't know, be careful just believing what people tell you, you have to separate opinions and facts
[01:15] <Bashing-om> oopps, did not realize would flood.
[01:15] <eskrima> daftykins how long is supported 14.04
[01:15] <daftykins> eskrima: have a look in the above link from Bashing-om, 2019 i believe
[01:15] <eskrima> beldar yeah.. but im not that expert in ubuntu yet... still trying to understand many things on os
[01:15] <Beldar> eskrima, If you want learn to swim you have to hit the pool. ;)
[01:16] <eskrima> beldar daftyking how exactly i do a back up on the ubuntu 12.10... not very experienced... can you guys help please..like the steps i should take.. :)
[01:16] <Beldar> !backup | eskrima
[01:17] <daftykins> eskrima: is ubuntu the only OS your computer has?
[01:17] <eskrima> beldar exactly thats what im doing. but currently im using my husbands laptop and dont want to mess it up. i have my own to play arround.
[01:17] <eskrima> beldar i want to be sure what im doing with his. so not to mess itup :)
[01:17] <Macer> what th ehell
[01:17] <eskrima> daftykins yesss
[01:17] <Macer> when i drag an icon on the left in the dock it won't release
[01:18] <Macer> something is wrong with the dock
[01:18] <eskrima> beldar will follow the links as soon as i get out of here
[01:18] <daftykins> eskrima: can you run a command in the terminal application then post its' output by copying and pasting it to paste.ubuntu.com ? it'll give you a link to share here. the command is "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:19] <eskrima> okkk
[01:19] <Macer> ok what is going on here :(
[01:19] <Macer> the dock is just broken now
[01:19] <Douglas> .
[01:19] <Beldar> eskrima, Myself if I had the feeling that was possible I would let them do it. I'm just noticing you're asking really broad unanswerable question as is and want the final answer.
[01:19] <Macer> how do i delete the dock config?
[01:19] <arthurfiggis> eskrima: it doesn't necessarily have to be a complicated process either, it depends on what kind of backup you need...i just copy my entire home directory onto an external usb drive once a week, but that's all i need :)
[01:19] <daftykins> Macer: i'm sorry to hear you're being surprised, but please don't let it make you press enter so much.
[01:19] <Macer> daftykins: heh. sorry. but something broke somewhere. compiz seems broken. i don't get the menu on the top anymore either. it's like it's completely borked
[01:20] <Macer> ugh i'll just rm the user and home dir and start over :/
[01:20] <eskrima> beldar sorry what you mean by possible..to upgrade as the upgrade box popped up on  my screen?
[01:22] <eskrima> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7513135/
[01:22] <eskrima> arthurfiggs ok.
[01:23] <daftykins> ah-ha, GPT
[01:23] <eskrima> beldar my box title says "check new realease gtk"
[01:23] <daftykins> eskrima: could you do the same with 'mount' also?
[01:23] <Beldar> eskrima, upgrades do brick computers especially if the user is inexperienced. This is exacerbated by not being backed up.
[01:23] <yolo`> hey guys how do you get rid of the highlights in a web browser ?
[01:23] <eskrima> daftyking how you mean ...can you please type here
[01:23] <yolo`> in a webpage*
[01:23] <guest2859275> I have an Asus EeePC 4G
[01:24] <eskrima> beldar ok so my first step is back up
[01:24] <daftykins> eskrima: repeat the same but this time just type the word "mount" in the terminal, it will spit out many lines
[01:24] <Ownix> Hello everyone. I have tried Lubuntu, XBMCBuntu, Mint 16 and now Ubuntu and my PC will not shutdown fully on any of these distrobutions.
[01:24] <guest2859275> It has 2GB RAM and an Intel Celeron M (900MHz) CPU
[01:24] <eskrima> okkk
[01:24] <Ownix> Shutdown hangs on the logo of each distrobution
[01:24] <guest2859275> I don't know what Buntu to put onto it's 32GB SD Card
[01:24] <zykotick9> Ownix: notice, they're all ubuntu based
[01:25] <daftykins> guest2859275: Lubuntu would be the lightest, followed by Xubuntu
[01:25] <Beldar> eskrima, To upgrade 12.10 you have to go through another end of life release, honestly I would fresh install. This upgrade will take a long time and have a higher chance of failing.
[01:25] <Ownix> zykotick9: I know. I was just hoping id hit one that works out of the box for me.
[01:25] <Beldar> I would just install 14.04 eskrima
[01:26] <eskrima> oh ok.... so i have to go to the website to find the install copy release of my liking (number i mean)? beldar
[01:26] <Ownix> I have no idea how to troubleshoot a failure to shutdown issue.
[01:26] <eskrima> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/7513142/
[01:27] <Beldar> eskrima, NOt sure what you like I an=m just suggesting install 14.04 it is a long term release 5 years support.
[01:27] <Beldar> am*
[01:27] <eskrima> beldar btw when i back up all my files.. will this also save all my other files in my documents pictures and the rest?
[01:27] <guest2859275> daftykins: danke
[01:27] <Artemis3> what is your question guest2859275 ?
[01:27] <eskrima> beldar nice ok
[01:28] <daftykins> eskrima: ok your system only has one partition, you'll need to backup your /home folder by plugging in an external hard disk, if you have one?
[01:28] <eskrima> beldar so where do i get a 14.04 installation ? on the ubuntu website? and how do i install.... should i download the installation and burn it to the disc and than do it by the disc?
[01:28] <daftykins> eskrima: assuming you have data you want to keep
[01:28] <Beldar> eskrima, Depends on how you do it, honestly I feel really uncomfortable in this. I learned all this by doing the duty on computers I had no attachment to, a practice setup.
[01:29] <Macer> ah well. i just wiped the home dir. no idea what broke there :/
[01:29] <eskrima> daftykins no...... but i can do a dvd burn for back up. ?? i have 8 gb of usb,, will that help or it goes by the memory gb for how many i have saved files in the laptop?
[01:29] <Macer> seems to be some broken config
[01:30] <daftykins> eskrima: writing DVDs will be fine if you don't have too much data, you may also want to use a DVD or your USB flash drive to install 14.04 once you download it from ubuntu.com to reinstall the laptop
[01:31] <daftykins> err, assuming it's a laptop i mean
[01:31] <Artemis3> daftykins, sadly, that user us going to need this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[01:31] <eskrima> daftykins ooo that sound good
[01:31] <Artemis3> daftykins, too late tho...
[01:32] <daftykins> Artemis3: oops.
[01:32] <eskrima> daftykins im tryin to burn some cds for the data i want to stor and free some space
[01:32] <Artemis3> daftykins, i own one of those :)
[01:32] <daftykins> Artemis3: ah-har, i nominate you chief ambassador for all future dealings ;)
[01:32] <eskrima> yes it issss
[01:32] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HELP
[01:33] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: please stop doing that.
[01:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Does anyone know how to watch netflix videos?
[01:33] <Artemis3> daftykins, nah, but remember the eeepc 70x (ie 4g) runs with the pentium m that needs the forcepae thing
[01:33] <eskrima> yes i do... here
[01:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :(
[01:34] <daftykins> !netflix | GuyThatNeedsHelp
[01:34] <eskrima> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/#.
[01:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> !igothacked
[01:35] <daftykins> ...
[01:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> !gothacked | daftykins
[01:35] <Beldar> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Do we need to call the mods?
[01:36] <daftykins> i'm beginning to think we do.
[01:36] <gry-> nope
[01:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Why would you need to call the mods?
[01:36] <eskrima> daftykins what means that the guy that neeeds help said that got hacked? what means?
[01:36] <daftykins> eskrima: i have no idea, i can only assume it means he doesn't want help and is actually wasting our time
[01:36] <Beldar> GuyThatNeedsHelp, There are channel norms, you are not within them.
[01:37] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Beldar that was rude of you
[01:37] <gry-> it's okay, you didn't get hacked, you don't need to be rude - watch what ubottu said about netflix
[01:38] <gry-> if you don't get it working just ask a slightly more specific question and someone would be with you soon
[01:40] <eskrima> daftykins ok will go read how to back up the system and will install the 14.04.. on more quest.. im used with the xp how to work. so for linux ubuntu, is it also a procedure to install/uninstall os the same? like you uninstall one os and start installin a new one?
[01:41] <zykotick9> eskrima: you don't really "uninstall" an OS, you just install the new one overtop...
[01:41] <gry-> or use dual boot
[01:41] <daftykins> eskrima: during the installation, a screen will ask you what you want to do with the hard disk. once you know all your data is safe, you can select to erase the entire disk and use it all
[01:42] <eskrima> okkk got it
[01:42] <daftykins> eskrima: however, you will be in a live session at this point (i recommend you select to try the new version before installing) so make sure everything you need works (e.g. you can get online, if you use Wifi etc)
[01:42] <eskrima> and i dont like dual boot.... not for now
[01:42] <eskrima> ooo ok thank you so much daftykins
[01:43] <daftykins> my pleasure :)
[01:44] <DirtyDub> how do I use 'yum' in ubuntu 10.04 LTS/12.04 LTS?
[01:44] <DirtyDub> it doesnt work
[01:44] <zykotick9> DirtyDub: you don't...
[01:44] <DirtyDub> y
[01:44] <zykotick9> z
[01:44] <DirtyDub> yyz
[01:45] <DirtyDub> I'm in a Rush.
[01:45] <DirtyDub> ;)
[01:45] <SchrodingersScat> yum is in my repos, I'm confused now.
[01:45] <gry-> aww
[01:46] <DirtyDub> yeah see?
[01:46] <copocaneta> has anyone here successfully set up svn2web? I have a few questions
[01:46] <SchrodingersScat> oh no, so is rpm
[01:46] <DirtyDub> yes.
[01:46] <daftykins> DirtyDub: what are you trying to achieve?
[01:46] <DirtyDub> kernel panic.
[01:46] <daftykins> i meant with yum.
[01:47] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> After installing netflix desktop or pipelight how do i get it to work?
[01:47] <zykotick9> DirtyDub: oh, well that's good, 'cause using yum on ubuntu "might" get you that "kernel panic" you're after...
[01:47] <DirtyDub> LibreSSL
[01:47] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: i'm sure that that is explained on that link i had ubottu share with you
[01:48] <daftykins> DirtyDub: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search libressl
[01:48] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins: WHY DON'T YOU WANNA BE MY FRIEND
[01:49] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: if you act out one more time you will be ejected.
[01:49]  * Beldar loves the ignore, problem people are more than obvious from the start.
[01:53] <Zooklubba> Terminal bell in gnome-terminal isn't working. 14.04, I have used my google-fu but failed. Request some expertise in the matter.
[01:53] <jchaike> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04, and replaced Unity with Gnome. I am trying to install Gnome Extensions, but extensions.gnome.org keeps telling me "We cannot detect a running copy of GNOME on this system" Does anyone know a solution to this?
[01:54] <Beldar> jchaike, gnome shell or the fallback?
[01:54] <jchaike> uhm, Beldar I'm honestly not sure. i followed these instructions: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/upgrade-gnome-3-10-ubuntu-13-10
[01:54] <Beldar> jchaike, The exstensions are for the gnome shell
[01:55] <jchaike> i mean as far as i know i am running gnome shell, if I have the gnome interface, correct?
[01:55] <jchaike> do i need to apt-get gnome?
[01:55] <Beldar> !ppa | jchaike
[01:56] <dually> wondering if it's ok to change the document root in 000-default from /var/www/html to /usr/share/tt-rss/www
[01:56] <jchaike> yeah im aware of PPAs
[01:57] <daftykins> dually: if you want it there, sure
[01:57] <Beldar> jchaike, Cool nut supported here is all. I had a problem with firefox communicating to the exstensions website my gnome version, but found opera worked, not saying this is your answer.
[01:57] <Beldar> not*
[01:58] <jchaike> okay, thanks Beldar. I figured its not officailly supported, but thought someone else might be having the same issue. thanks again
[01:59] <dually> daftykins: ok, can I do similar with default-ssl.conf?  Is this safe?
[01:59] <shawnbon206> virt-manager is amazing!
[01:59] <daftykins> dually: apache documentation is quite extensive :)
[01:59] <Beldar> jchaike, Cool I would hate to say revert if it is basically working, just not sure why this happens with the extension site. May not be the gnome version is the issue.
[02:00] <zykotick9> shawnbon206: i'd strongly disagree.  do you have a support question?  if so, ask.  but don't make statements of opinion in #ubuntu
[02:01] <shawnbon206> you just made one
[02:01] <shawnbon206> "do as i say not as i do" kind of thing?
[02:01] <daftykins> shawnbon206: this is not a channel for conflict. you will be ejected.
[02:03] <shawnbon206> i was just pointing out a hypocracy in a statement, i didnt say i disagreed with the underlying purpose.
[02:03] <dually> daftykins: I've just kind of set aside the afternoon to tinkering with apache, seeing if I can come up with something better than my current set up.
[02:03] <Beldar> shawnbon206, all opinions get to the support issue.
[02:04] <daftykins> dually: i see, i'd definitely get info from source then, this is more a channel for ubuntu support
[02:14] <linkin> hola
[02:14] <linkin> l
[02:14] <linkin> hola
[02:14] <gry-> hi
[02:15] <linkin> where are you ?
[02:15] <daftykins> linkin: support questions only please. general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:16] <gry-> i upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and install stuck at some point but 'apt-get update -f' fixed it, now it or 'apt-get upgrade' do not complain. What else do I check before rebooting?
[02:16] <gry-> I'm here in this channel only at the moment
[02:16] <daftykins> i believe you mean "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:16] <gry-> yes
[02:16] <zykotick9> daftykins: either will work
[02:16] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" would be wise
[02:16] <Beldar> gry-, Your pulse? Reboot I say. ;)
[02:17] <gry-> daftykins, this one isn't complaining either
[02:17] <daftykins> zykotick9: really? update seems like it'd just update package lists
[02:17] <daftykins> gry-: sounds like it's time to reboot! :)
[02:17] <gry-> ok, see you later then, hopefully soon
[02:17] <zykotick9> daftykins: oh sorry, no you're right, i just though you where talking about the -f location "apt-get -f install" vs "apt-get install -f" both work.  but the update, no that's won't work!
[02:18] <undeadhusky> Okay I just realised the lubuntu 14.04 i386 .iso file finished downloading
[02:18] <undeadhusky> Time to make a bootable usb
[02:18] <Beldar> undeadhusky, This is support not a play by play. ;)
[02:18] <daftykins> zykotick9: no problem :)
[02:19] <undeadhusky> sudo dd bs=1m if=~/Downloads/lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/rdisk1
[02:20] <daftykins> undeadhusky: are you the user who came by before asking about a celeron M netbook?
[02:20] <undeadhusky> Yea
[02:21] <RMYC> hey guys on a laptop
[02:21] <daftykins> undeadhusky: ah, one moment then, someone came by with important information just after you left
[02:21] <RMYC> wondering why my desktop is displaying like this
[02:21] <RMYC> http://oi62.tinypic.com/1zdm7fc.jpg
[02:21] <RMYC> keep losing stuff over to the right
[02:21] <daftykins> undeadhusky: < Artemis3> daftykins, sadly, that user us going to need this:
[02:21] <daftykins>                   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[02:22] <zykotick9> daftykins: i've owned several EEE 701s and i actually question a problem with PAE... but it's been a long while since i actually installed anything on them.
[02:23] <daftykins> zykotick9: ah-har, perhaps it is best undeadhusky tries the download and asks again if there is an issue then
[02:23] <lasindi> Anybody in here familiar with Unity's code? I am looking for the code determining how many pips to display next to a launcher icon. There's a bug where the number of pips isn't properly updated when a new window is opened.
[02:23] <undeadhusky> I will try a normal install first. I did manage to install Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS previously
[02:23] <undeadhusky> But it was too slow
[02:24] <Aaron_Wayne17> Can anyone here help with a microphone issue? Internal mic on my laptop is not working. I've already went through all the basic troubleshooting I could find and no its not muted
[02:25] <undeadhusky> I'm a fan of the *buntu eco system, but not of unity
[02:25] <zykotick9> Aaron_Wayne17: is this actually a laptop, or an EEE netbook?
[02:25] <Aaron_Wayne17> an actual laptop. HP Pavilion DV6
[02:25] <zykotick9> Aaron_Wayne17: ok, never mind me then ;)  best of luck.
[02:25] <Aaron_Wayne17> zykotick9, lol.....ok
[02:26] <jeffw> does anyone here use dwww on-line documentation browser? have a question about apache2 settings. somehow something is getting disabled (a2dismod) but not sure by what (because I would get an error 404 on many man pages)  so when i ran a2enmod to reenable all modules i no longer get the error 404. can someone explain why? or what module fixed this?
[02:27] <mkdmz> Trying out the Live CD Custimazation and have successfully added a user account to the Live CD, but I have not been able to use dpkg to install packages.  When I burn the DVD it will boot up, but doesn't go to gdm.  Anyone have any ideas why?
[02:27] <daftykins> jeffw: perhaps your apache logs before and after would be handy in this instance
[02:28] <mkdmz> If I don't install any packages with dpkg, everything goes fine. But I want a few more programs on my live dvd.
[02:28] <arun_> guys i am having an error "mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem squashfs failed:No such device can not mount /dev/loop0(cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem squashfs"
[02:29] <jeffw> daftykins: ok. how and where?
[02:29] <arun_> why is that error coe
[02:29] <daftykins> jeffw: /var/log/apache2/
[02:29] <daftykins> arun_: this is upon doing what? attempting to boot a LiveCD?
[02:30] <arun_> daftykins: attempting to boot an iso using pendrive
[02:30] <arun_> daftykins: works fine with vbox though
[02:30] <mkdmz> Does any one have any experience adding programs to a live cd?
[02:31] <undeadhusky> My Mac hard disk is faulty
[02:31] <undeadhusky> Sometimes is just force reboots
[02:32] <jeffw> daftykins: here is the error log: http://pastebin.com/d6QUQiiB
[02:33] <daftykins> arun_: is virtualbox booting a VM with that downloaded ISO on the same system as your flash drive is being booted on natively?
[02:34] <holstein> undeadhusky: maybe try an apple support venue.. force reboot could be hard drive.. but, it could be anything from overheating, or faulty hardware, or just an operating system issue
[02:34] <daftykins> jeffw: sorry, it's 3:30am my time and i can barely read this channel let alone logs! there should be files including access and error.log within /var/log/apache2 , which may shed some light on your query, however such in-depth apache quirks are more issues to consult them with rather than the support channel of the OS it is running atop
[02:35] <jeffw> ok.
[02:36] <undeadhusky> Attempting to boot the Lubuntu installer on my Eee PC
[02:37] <arun_> daftykins: yes
[02:37] <Beldar> arun_, Try another usb loader maybe.
[02:37] <daftykins> arun_: i'd imagine the flash drive was created badly
[02:38] <arun_> daftykins: was created using unetbootin
[02:38] <asdfghjkl> How do you edit the MOTD in Ubuntu 14.04?...
[02:39] <jrib> asdfghjkl: have you checked man update-motd.d
[02:39] <daftykins> arun_: i'd use dd if it's a Linux host
[02:39] <jrib> asdfghjkl: have you checked man update-motd
[02:40] <asdfghjkl> jrib: No, I was completely lost on anything; I was use to the older way of editing the /etc/motd.tail file
[02:40] <arun_> daftykins: ohh ok thanks
[02:40] <jrib> asdfghjkl: yeah, it gets generated, check out that man page
[02:40] <Beldar> asdfghjkl, http://www.howtogeek.com/104708/how-to-customize-ubuntus-message-of-the-day/ the web is your pallet.
[02:41] <asdfghjkl> Thank you for your help
[02:43] <gry> works
[02:46] <mkdmz> Anyone done this process?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[02:46] <mkdmz> I'm wondering if I can use dpkg to install apps on a Live CD?
[02:47] <mkdmz> It seems to mess up my remastered cd.
[02:47] <holstein> mkdmz: it? dpkg? if you think its that, use something else and test.. or, try only in repo applications and customize and test..
[02:49] <mkdmz> Does anyone know how dpkg works?  Does it just install a bunch of file only or does it do more?
[02:49] <holstein> !info dpkg
[02:49] <cfhowlett> mkdmz run man dpkg       in a terminal for details
[02:50] <arun_> is there anything to do with /etc/fstab
[02:51] <mkdmz> Can dpkg be used to install applications in chroot for making a Live CD?
[02:51] <holstein> arun_: for?
[02:51] <holstein> mkdmz: i have not tried.. but, if i were trying it, and thought it were the issue, i would try something else, and test
[02:51] <arun_> holstein: for the error I had got
[02:52] <holstein> arun_: attempting to boot an iso using pendrive?
[02:52] <holstein> arun_: whats the goal?
[02:54] <arun_> holstein: nah.. I got an error (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs dailed: Input/output error
[02:54] <arun_> Can not mount /dev/loop0/ (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs) when I boot using usb kit
[02:55] <holstein> arun_: i would remake my usb.. i prefer either dd copy of iso, or unetbootin
[02:55] <arun_> holstein: I did used unetbootin
[02:56] <gry> 'fancontrol' package is optional isn't it? the system would manage the temperature without it?
[02:56] <holstein> arun_: you mention pendrive
[02:56] <zykotick9> arun_: as ubuntu ISOs are bootable on USB to start with, using unetbootin _WILL_ cause problems sometimes...  just sayin'
[02:56] <holstein> arun_: regardless, try another method.. try dd copying
[02:57]  * zykotick9 likes cp/cat over dd himself
[02:58] <arun_> ok guys, I am gonna give a try to d
[02:58] <arun_> *dd
[02:58] <holstein> zykotick9: you cant cp the iso's AFAIK
[02:58] <zykotick9> holstein: actually you can!  "cp foo.iso /dev/sdX && sync" done.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> zykotick9 but is that a bootable outcome???
[02:59] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: yup
[02:59] <cfhowlett> zykotick9 everday I come here - I learn something!  Thanks!
[02:59] <zykotick9> holstein: cfhowlett cp/cat/dd are VERY close - only difference, _might_ be the speed.
[03:00] <zykotick9> but dd requires more options then cp/cat - i like simplicity = stuff i can remember ;)
[03:00] <holstein> zykotick9: not what i read. but, i'll try it next time
[03:01] <zykotick9> holstein: just copy to the device, and not a partition.  sdb = yes | sdb1 = no, type thing
[03:01] <holstein> zykotick9: i get the concept.. im saying, i have read to the contrary, but, i will test next time it comes up.. thanks
[03:02] <Aaron_wayne17> Ok, back again about the microphone issue. Ran some system tests and for the audio/alsa_record_playback_internal test it gave me this information
[03:02] <Aaron_wayne17> job cannot be started: required dependency '2013.com.canonical.certification::audio/playback_auto' has failed
[03:02] <Aaron_wayne17> can anyone tell me waht to do with that?
[03:09] <arun_> doing dd
[03:09] <Apteryx> Hello! I'm trying to fix my bluetooth device being in coma every time I boot. It's just on my local install, on the liveUSB of Ubuntu this issue is non existent. Could someone here advise me about which config files I should move from the LiveUSB to my local install? TIA.
[03:11] <daftykins> Apteryx: what does "rfkill show" respond with?
[03:11] <Apteryx> I guess /etc/bluetooth is one of the folder I should restore?
[03:11] <daftykins> actually it might be "rfkill list all"
[03:12] <Apteryx> daftykins, it shows that the interface of interest, hci0: Bluetooth is neither soft or hard blocked.
[03:12] <daftykins> ah, well that's good - but bad in that that's the full extent of my knowledge
[03:13] <Apteryx> daftykins, ok, alright :) thanks for tipping in!
[03:13] <daftykins> no problem :)
[03:18]  * arun_ is restarting
[03:19] <daftykins> well, time to turn in. a hearty good night to all fellower helpers and helpees \o
[03:19] <daftykins> *fellow
[03:19] <Apteryx> good night!
[03:23] <arun_> guys with dd , the screen was black with a bink of __
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> dd normally doesn't output anything until finished
[03:24] <daftykins> he means the boot attempt
[03:25] <holstein> !md5 | arun_
[03:25] <holstein> arun_: also, the stick is a constant here.. and your machine you are trying to boot it on
[03:25] <holstein> i would try a different stick, and the same stick on a different computer
[03:26] <arun_> holstein: the same stick doesn't work didn't try with another stick
[03:32] <arun_> holstein: as the iso worked fine in vbox, may be the iso is good
[03:32] <holstein> arun_: the md5 sums checked? can you get to the verify step in the menu?
[03:33] <holstein> arun_: i would just test the sum, and the media, if you are seeing the menu, and then you'll know
[03:33] <arun_> holstein: bro, the iso was recreated by me
[03:33] <holstein> arun_: what does that mean?
[03:35] <arun_> holstein: I used isomaster to create the iso
[03:36] <holstein> arun_: ok.. then it could be the problem.. but, i would just keep testing, friend.. break down the variables, andtest
[03:36] <holstein> arun_: i dont have your hardware, usb stick, or iso, or specific needs.. so i cant troubleshoot or provide support
[03:38] <arun_> holstein: i a m doing the same
[03:39] <qin> arun_: either (I) remastered iso is bad or (U) usb do not boot, like some SanDisks, if you proove U as a false, by using original Ubuntu iso you will know that I is a problem... do Vbox boot yours iso?
[03:52] <copocaneta> has anyone here successfully set up svn2web? I have a few questions in regards to running "svn propset" for particular repository directories (which don't show up at server side, only at client side)
[03:58] <kaleb> alguem do brazil?
[04:01] <Beldar> !br
[04:02] <sl33k_> After the usb nicely works in virtualbox, it is not detected in my ubuntu. How do I troubleshoot?
[04:02] <pngo> !pl
[04:03] <sl33k_> After the usb nicely works in virtualbox, it is not detected in my ubuntu. How do I troubleshoot?
[04:03] <Beldar> sl33k_, THe usb or the iso works in vbox?
[04:04] <sl33k_> Beldar: yes
[04:04] <Beldar> just being sure sl33k_
 sl33k_, THe usb or the iso works in vbox?  Read carefdully
[04:04] <Beldar> carefully*
[04:05] <sl33k_> Beldar: If you are assuming I am installing it - that is not the case. I want to transfer some files to the stick
[04:06] <Beldar> sl33k_, I am assuming nothing, your are assuming, this is a simple question.
[04:06] <sl33k_> Mainly because Canon printers are PITA to set up
[04:06] <Beldar> !tmi
[04:07] <sl33k_> I did say yes. the vbox detects it
[04:07] <Beldar> sl33k_, Okay, can't help yah. ;)
[04:08] <sl33k_> nothing personal
 what are your groups?
 in terminal enter groups
[04:11] <pngo> see if you have plugdev
[04:12] <sl33k_> pngo: There is...
[04:12] <sl33k_> sl33k@sl33k-laptop:~$ groups
[04:12] <sl33k_> sl33k adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare vboxusers
[04:12] <mbff> question: Anyway to automate answers to questions like http://hastebin.com/tolononaxu.vbs ?
[04:13] <pngo> OK. plug in your USB and enter: sudo fdisk -l
[04:13] <Beldar> !pastebinit | mbff to pastebin yes
[04:13] <pngo> is your usb recognized?
[04:14] <Beldar> mbff, Is that what you mean?
[04:14] <mbff> what??
[04:14] <Beldar> mbff, look above at the bots message pointed at you.
[04:15] <copocaneta> has anyone here successfully set up svn or svn2web? I have a few questions in regards to running "svn propset" for particular repository directories (which don't show up at server side, only at client side)
[04:15] <mbff> No, I run a script which updates everything on a server. I would like to choice the answer to the question so the script doesn't wait for the user to enter something.
[04:15] <mbff> choose*
[04:16] <sl33k_> pngo: recognized as sdb if I am not wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/7513673/
[04:16] <sl33k_> It is a 4GB so 4009 MB gave it
[04:19] <sl33k_> pngo: just a wild whim. manual mount?
[04:19] <pngo> sl33k_: I think this will help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[04:20] <sl33k_> I will look  at it. thanks pngo!
[04:20] <pngo> sl33k_: yes and than check your fstab
[04:22] <Macer> wow... swapping from a normal to encrypted home dir seems like a handful
[04:22] <Macer> isn't there some frontend that does this all for you? :)
[04:23] <holstein> Macer: the installer does al that for you, but you have to know back then.. its switching after the fact that is challenging
[04:23] <Macer> holstein: yeah but the installer only does it for users you add at the time
[04:24] <Macer> but it does seem that you can simply create a new user with a flag
[04:24] <Macer> that does it all for you so that may work out
[04:24] <Macer> sudo adduser --home /home/user --ingroup admin --encrypt-home user <- i guess adduser has a flag for it
[04:25] <holstein> Macer: i thought there was an option in the GUI.. but, i rarely want to trade the hit in performance for encryption, personally
[04:26] <Macer> it isn't that serious so long as your cpu supports the aesni stuff
[04:27] <Macer> i'm on this whole encryption thing to see how difficult it would be to encrypt everything
[04:27] <Macer> it is actually a total pain heh
[04:28] <Macer> i mean everything.. using kerberos across hosts and all that fun stuff ... the biggest challenge is finding a mobile OS that supports something that works at least for email
[04:29] <Jeeves_Moss> I'm having some serious issues with my wvdial.conf file.  What are the steps to get to the AT+CGDCONF line?
[04:29] <zykotick9> Macer: if you're interested in security, i'd strong suggest full disk encryption, using LUKS - over "home folder encryption".  YMMV.
[04:29] <Macer> i was hoping ubuntu phones would use some trimmed down version of thunderbird with enigmail
[04:29] <Macer> zykotick9: i considered that but my issue is the mounting of 2 different partitions at boot
[04:29] <Macer> on 2 different hard drives
[04:29] <Macer> this laptop has 2 SSDs in it
[04:30] <Macer> i'm sure it's possible but i'd have to read up on it
[04:30] <zykotick9> Macer: it's possible... but i haven't personally had to use crypttab yet... i do have a script to mount my encrypted external drive.
[04:30] <Macer> i'm not sure if anything supports unlocking the boot drive then mounting another partition using 1 common passphrase
[04:31] <Macer> but thanks tho.. i'll look into luks and see if it is a viable option
[04:32] <zykotick9> Macer: just a sidenote, if you use "home folder encryption" it's gonna break hibernation on your system...
[04:32] <Macer> i don't hibernate my system
[04:32] <zykotick9> not an issue then...
[04:32] <Macer> i'll just put it to sleep if anything.. otherwise i'll shut it down
[04:32] <Macer> with the SSDs it takes like 3s to boot
[04:32] <Macer> the post takes longer than ubuntu booting ;)
[04:33] <Macer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem <- that seems a bit outdated
[04:34] <Macer> that method also requires destroying the data instead of simply encrypting live data like truecrypt does
[04:40] <Macer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3 <- that one has a broken link for the instructions for install time encryption
[04:41] <Macer> i actually wouldn't mind re-installing if it would let me install luks during install and prompt me for the passwords on boot
[04:41] <jeffw> i need to look for a package that was in a previous editon of ubuntu (like 6.04 or 8.04 etc.) how can i go about doing that?
[04:46] <Beldar> jeffw, In general using outdated apps is not supported here. Do you have an argument that says we should? ;)
[04:47] <Beldar> in your case of course
[04:47] <jeffw> i'm looking for a specific app can't remember the actual name of it unless i see it again.
[04:47] <jeffw> and i wouldn't be using the actual app but rather the source code.
[04:49] <Beldar> jeffw, Hmm, so we are supposed to go through the maybe 1000's of apps and find this for you?
[04:50] <jeffw> um, no, i thought there was a website that had a package search tool. or there used to be.
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Jeffrey_f download the ISO.  put it in a virtualbox.  boot.   find your app yourself.
[04:51] <Beldar> jeffw ^^^^^ for you I think
 can you tell us what that app should do?
[04:51] <cfhowlett> Beldar eeks!  yes for jeffw
[04:51] <Beldar> ;)
[04:51] <loa> how i can limit io hangry task if i use deadline on ubuntu?
[04:52] <jeffw> is was a basic language but it wasn't brandy or bwbasic which are still in the repositories.
[04:52] <loa> will be mre correctly "all use"
[04:52] <pngo> !brandy | jeffw
[04:53] <pngo> !bwbasic
[04:54] <jeffw> i "think" it was chipmunk?
[04:55] <jeffw> didn't ubuntu have a webpage/website where you could search package archives?
[04:55] <Beldar> loa, Can you re state this in correct spellings and understandable?
[04:56] <pngo> jeffw: try this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BASIC_dialects
[04:57] <loa> Beldar,  how i can limit io hungry task, if i use deadline io scheduler on ubuntu?
[04:57] <loa> Beldar, better?
[04:57] <Beldar> loa, Indubitably. ;)
[04:58] <Beldar> just beyond my knowledge is all
[04:58] <NightKhaos> So I setup a machine in an LXC under Trusty, but I can't ping from host to container or visa versa.
[05:00] <apb1963> Anyone know how to set the default sound device?
[05:00] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04
[05:00] <rollinj> hello?
[05:01] <Beldar> rollinj, goodbye?
[05:01] <Beldar> ;)
[05:01] <apb1963> You say hello... I say goodbye :)
[05:01] <Beldar> insert rim shot here
[05:02] <apb1963> :)
[05:02] <apb1963> So nobody has ever changed their default sound device?  wow.
[05:02] <Beldar> rollinj, Do you have support needs?
[05:03] <SchrodingersScat> apb1963: did you check your sound settings?
[05:05] <help> anyone good with partitioning ?
[05:05] <Jeeves_Moss> what is the proper channel to ask about AT commands?
[05:06] <Macer> ah ok. seemed easier to just go to another user acct and del/readd and copy the data over to the encrypted home dir for the user
[05:06] <apb1963> SchrodingersScat:Yes... it says what it's supposed to say... but... chrome is sending sound to the wrong device.
 install or try pavucontrol
[05:11] <Guest45630> is anyone familiar with gpart?
[05:11] <Guest45630> ed
[05:11] <Beldar> Guest45630, State the issue for help.
 I hope you are using pulseaudio
[05:11] <apb1963> SchrodingersScat: normally it sends it to the default device...  I rebooted earlier, for some reason the onboard card wasn't recognized and the default device became the USB card and now chrome plays through my headphones which I don't want.  Then the system managed to fix itself, but sound still plays through the USB card.
[05:11] <apb1963> pngo: ALSA
[05:11] <Guest45630> i am trying to create a new partition for another operating system but when i go to resize the current partition it will not let me
[05:12] <Macer> woop
 try: alsamixer
[05:12] <apb1963> pngo: It doesn't let you set the default
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:13] <apb1963> pngo: and it shows the device as card 2, when it should be zero.
[05:13] <Guest45630> it just gives me the option to click cancel
[05:14] <apb1963> pngo: so something is wacky
[05:14] <Beldar> Guest45630, take a screenshot of gparted and post it and give us the url.
[05:15] <apb1963> pngo: SchrodingersScat: I can play the test sounds through the right device... so the card works.
[05:15] <Guest45630> is there a site where i don't have to create an account to do that ?
[05:15] <Beldar> !imagebin | Guest45630,
[05:16] <Beldar> Guest45630, Then tell us in that with that link the partition to resize, make sure we can see gparted without any processes pending.
[05:16] <pngo> apb1963: I'm not sure but try: xfce4-mixer
[05:16] <Guest45630> ummm that link just told me that that site contains malware
[05:17] <Beldar> Guest45630, I have seen that it's a FF addon I have not worried about it myself, but there are many image sites on the web.
[05:18] <Beldar> Guest45630, try http://tinypic.com/
[05:18] <Guest45630> here is one screen shot of the partitions
[05:18] <Guest45630> http://imagebin.org/311712
[05:19] <Guest45630> http://imagebin.org/311713
[05:20] <Beldar> Guest45630, YOu have to have the partition unmounted to resize, your using it right?
[05:20] <pngo> apb1963: read this: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
[05:21] <snpresent> hello!
[05:21] <Guest45630> i get this when i try to unmount it http://imagebin.org/311714
[05:21] <Beldar> Guest45630, Is sda1 your ubuntu install, and are you using it now to resize itself?
[05:22] <Guest45630> i did a full install when i installed ubuntu to knock everything out of my computer
[05:22] <Beldar> Guest45630, Are you booted into sda1?
[05:22] <Guest45630> so i believe so
[05:23] <pfifo> I remember I used a superfast compression program from within busybox once, it was on par with gzip filesizes but almost 10x faster, does anyone know which algo im refering to?
[05:23] <Guest45630> yes
[05:23] <Beldar> Guest45630, You can't resize a partition you are using, windows does linux does not use a live cd
[05:23] <Beldar> or unmount a OS you are using
[05:24] <Guest45630> so how would i go about making a new partition i am guessing re installing ubuntu?
[05:24] <pfifo> I think it was 'xz'
[05:24] <Beldar> Guest45630, Boot a live ubuntu or gparted and reaize it
[05:24] <Beldar> resize
[05:24] <Guest45630> i will try it
[05:25] <Beldar> Guest45630, Cool, you understand why this has not worked?
[05:25] <Guest45630> yea makes sense
[05:25] <Beldar> Guest45630, Awesome, good luck. ;)
[05:25] <Guest45630> so just boot ubuntu from a flash drive and resize the partition
[05:26] <Beldar> Guest45630, Yeah, should be fine.
[05:26] <Guest45630> okay thanks i will be back if it does not work lol
[05:26] <Beldar> hehe see you i the flipside
[05:26] <Beldar> on*
[05:27] <apb1963> pngo: Thanks.  I'm going to see if a reboot puts it right before I spend the next several hours ripping out my hair just to get sound to come out the right card.  I appreciate your efforts.
[05:28] <Viking667> discon
[05:28] <Viking667> oops, sorry.
[05:28] <pfifo> I have a 200GB partition im backing up of all importaqnt stuff, and im going to change the format from ext2 to something else, I want to be able to do a filesystem check without having to wait for hours, Im looking for suggestions for what filesystem to use, im thinking ext4
[05:29] <pfifo> or perhaps reiserfs, but last i used it 3-4 years ago it had some problems
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> pfifo: testdisk maybe?
[05:30] <pfifo> lotuspsychje: what?
[05:30] <rww> pfifo: ext4
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | pfifo
[05:31] <pfifo> lotuspsychje: ohh the partition and disk are fine, it just takes a long time for it to figure that out after i hit reset without shutting down
[05:31] <pfifo> rww, thanks, i was really leaning to ext4
[05:31] <Beldar> pfifo, My magic crsytal says to ask is the ext2 associated with a SSD?
[05:32] <Beldar> crystal*
[05:32] <pfifo> Beldar: no, sata 7200 rpm, 250gb seagate
[05:32] <rww> it doesn't matter, the answer is still ext4 in that case
[05:34] <pfifo> I should get a SSD, all this extra money in my pocket makes it a good time to purchase
[05:34] <precummmmmmmmmm> right on dude
[05:35] <Locke2002> just got an SSD in my old desktop. It's like a whole new computer.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Locke2002: same here mate, samsung ssd evo 120gig on trusty 64bit netbook, runs like rocket
[05:37] <Locke2002> precummmmmmmmmm is private messaging vulgar things to users in this channel.
[05:37] <Flannel> thanks Locke2002
[05:43] <pfifo> i dont even know how to shop for an SSD lol
[05:43] <vilambit> how do I fix suspend/resume working with the nouveau driver on 14.04?
[05:47] <vilambit> anyone? :)
[05:48] <pfifo> vilambit: how do you know nouveau is causing a problem?
[05:48] <vilambit> pfifo: cos if i switch to nvidia driver it works fine
[05:49] <vilambit> pfifo: but the nvidia driver runs hot on my macbook pro :(
[05:49] <ankurk_> So my friend wants to host a site, and I have a server lying around, I know I can host the site using apache vhosts
[05:50] <ankurk_> How can I give him the ftp access to the folder I designate for him?
[05:50] <pfifo> i was going to say give a link to whatever bug report you were looking at, but it thats what happend i have nothing to offer
[05:50] <pfifo> ankurk_: install a ftp daemon
[05:50] <ankurk_> ftp daemon?
[05:50] <ankurk_> how?
[05:51] <vilambit> ankurk_: sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[05:51] <Flannel> ankurk_: I suggest not doing FTP, but doing SFTP instead, this runs over SSH, and it's trivial to set up, compared to most ftp daemons.
[05:51] <pfifo> ankurk_: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[05:51] <pfifo> ankurk_: I agree with the sftp as well
[05:52] <ankurk_> So I would go with FTP :) thanks guys!
[05:52] <pfifo> ankurk_: ftpd configuration can be really hard
[05:52] <ankurk_> is it? :O
[05:53] <pfifo> its not for the feint of heart
[05:53] <pfifo> its not postscript by any means, but theres still alot to it
[05:56] <ra123445555> i have ppp0 but my connection shown with rx or tx datas
[05:56] <bloatedbayesian> A feinting heart sounds scary.
[05:57] <bloatedbayesian> Can I sell computing power from a home PC?
[05:58] <pfifo> bloatedbayesian: bitcoin
[05:58]  * pfifo laughs at himself
[05:59] <ankurk_> I will try.
[06:00] <SchrodingersScat> !FTPd | ankurk_
[06:02] <pfifo> if anyone cares: Yesterday I bought an Onn keyboard model # ona11h0089 with upc 681131542180, from my local walmart store for $10usd and was able to convert it to a dvorak key layout, all the keys were able to pop off and back on into their new spot with ease.
[06:03] <w_> dvorak was the 'other' keyboard layout right?
[06:03] <SchrodingersScat> I don't bother changing the keys anymore
[06:03] <nashant> Hey guys. I'm trying to shrink my lvm ext4 partition so I can gradually move all my data into a xenserver array, but every time resize2fs fails. It worked when shrinking and removing the first 2TB disk, but now it won't shrink enough for me to remove the second from the array. The disk is 6TB total and there's 3.3TB of files on there
[06:03] <pfifo> i got the letters and numbers down, and can chat just fine. but [{]} =+ <> and a few others i use in programming give me trouble
[06:04] <nashant> I've checked to see if fragmentation is the problem, but got a fragmentation score of 0, so that's not it
[06:04] <gry> pfifo: you have to to map them I guess?
[06:04] <pfifo> gry: what?
[06:05] <gry> pfifo: map something to these symbols, so you press couple keys and they come up
[06:05] <darthbator> Hey guys I have a quick question about what bash profile are sourced why. I was under the impression that tmux ran interactive nonlogin shells in it's pane however it seems to be grabbing my .profile on every new pane
[06:05] <darthbator> Does tmux always open login shells? That seems very odd to me. Or am I not using the correct file?
[06:05] <pfifo> gry: no, i just (now) look down at my shiny new dovrak keyboard and can see where they are
[06:07] <gry> pfifo: hrm, okay, if they're there then what's the trouble?
[06:09] <pfifo> gry: the problem used to be that I had to go to wikipedia and reference a picture of the dvorak layout
[06:10] <SchrodingersScat> !info dvorak7min | pfifo
[06:11] <pfifo> i found gtypist to suit me
[06:12] <pfifo> wish there was a vim7min
[06:12] <SchrodingersScat> thought there was vimtutor
[06:13] <gry> ah nice
[06:13] <pfifo> not sure, never looked
[06:15] <Jeeves_Moss> where can I find the ModemPhone number for a Bell Canada 3G stick?
[06:18] <Beldar> Jeeves_Moss, really here on the ubuntu support channel?
[06:19] <Jeeves_Moss> Beldar, yes, I'm stuck with this retarded wvdial config
[06:19] <Beldar> Jeeves_Moss, wrong place si far with the info provided. ;)
[06:19] <Beldar> so*
[06:20] <Beldar> Jeeves_Moss, So what is the end goal here? The stick not working?
[06:21] <Jeeves_Moss> Beldar, yep.  It's an embedded device, and I've been fighting for hours to get the hardware to respond (had to break out the soldering iro acutally).
[06:22] <Beldar> Jeeves_Moss, This I can tell is beyond me, hope you get it working. ;)
[06:22] <Jeeves_Moss> Beldar, http://pastebin.com/55J22nGH
[06:22] <Beldar> cheap usb wif sticks all over I would just do that.
[06:22] <Beldar> wifi*
[06:23] <Jeeves_Moss> lol. I'd love to.  kinda hard when it's in a vehical heading down the highway at 60MPH
[06:23] <DrakkenWarr> baud should be 9200
[06:24] <sl33k_> From topic Configuring Program Autostart from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB I could not find System-Settings - Details in Applications menu. Am I missing something?
[06:24] <DrakkenWarr> I would think isdn should equal 1
[06:24] <Beldar> Jeeves_Moss, Hit the next truck stop and make some new friends and pick up a stick.
[06:24] <Beldar> ;)
[06:24] <Jeeves_Moss> lol, they're going to be rolled out to a large number of trucks.  it's a tracking system
[06:24] <Beldar> ah, big brother truckin stylew
[06:25] <Beldar> style
[06:25] <Jeeves_Moss> yea
[06:25] <Jeeves_Moss> lazy truckers
[06:26]  * Beldar practices hi double clutching
[06:26] <Beldar> his*
[06:28] <Jeeves_Moss> why do I hear gears grinding?
[06:28] <Beldar> I'm a noob
[06:28] <Jeeves_Moss> lol, it's not that hard.  but I'm a farm kid
[06:53] <sunbx> test
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> sunbx: failed
[07:22] <ankurk_> I am trying to setup my site via vHosts on my VPS but whenever I try to access the site I get this, Oops! Google Chrome could not find [sitename]
[07:23] <ankurk_> Why it might be happening?
[07:23] <helmut_> hi
[07:32] <|\n> after successful installation of nvidia-current package or nvidia-331 one, how do i check if nvidia module exists? i assumed it would be `modinfo nvidia`
[07:34] <heidelfuchs> good morning. Maybe someone can help. I've installed the "official" intel driver on trusty thinkpad e330. Works okay apart from that no external monitors are detected on hdmi anymore. Now as the original driver worked well as well (i shouldnt have changed) i want to go back... but i cant find how. Any ideas?
[07:36] <Slart> |\n: modinfo nvidia_331 works on my system.. not sure why the module is named differently here compared to modprobe
[07:40] <|\n> thank you, Slart!
[07:41] <|\n> Slart, do you have some cuda onboard?
[07:51] <wllrt> My color scheme doesn't work  for LXTerminal, for vim. Running Lubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr.
[07:52] <wllrt> ^Tried Solarized color scheme and it looks  awful, both in dark and light backgrounds.
[07:58] <tigre> jou jouu
[07:59] <tigre> :)
[08:11] <|\n> why is that when i install libgl1-mesa-dri package, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so doesn't exist, while it should be provided by the package?
[08:13] <cai> Are there any sub-$100 ubuntu computers yet? :( tablet/craptop
[08:13] <cai> Tons and tons of beefy andriod devices under $100 these days
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> cai: well if it works with ubuntu arm that would count
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> cai: why would you want a super underpowered ubuntu pc?
[08:14] <cai> aeon-ltd: to use as a portable terminal mostly...
[08:26] <ankurk_> How can I point my domain to my VPS?
[08:26] <cai> Wlecome to DNS, enjoy your hell.
[08:27] <cai> If your domain has a DNS, well then add an A record of your VPS IP and pray
[08:27] <Lingo4> hello all
[08:30] <Lingo4> ksdf
[08:31] <terminal_> i want a good site of good new themes for ubuntu 14.4 unity
[08:31] <cai> not much to customize in unity, there's icon packs in the repos
[08:32] <terminal_> cai,shall i open synaptic and type in ion?
[08:33] <ankurk_> Cai: even though I have added A record, I still get this, Oops! Google Chrome could not find [sitename]
[08:33] <cai> ankurk_: are you trying to reach the right ip?
[08:34] <ankurk_> yep, IP is correct
[08:34] <cai> ankurk_: what about the port being open?
[08:34] <ankurk_> how to check that?
[08:34] <ankurk_> moreover, ping says cannot resolve: unknown host
[08:34] <cai> ankurk_: well then you don't have the ip
[08:35] <Snirt> hello
[08:35] <ankurk_> But I am using my VPS's IP address :(
[08:35] <ror> @garfield hi
[08:36] <ror> I have tried a lot of methods but cant get this done. I am trying to install rvm on 12.04 ubuntu. There has been many problems in past like this and I have referred as much as I can and still nothing is working for me. Even wirting sudo in front of these doesnt work. What I tried are the following:  \curl -L https://get.rvm.io | bash -s stable --ruby  curl -L get.rvm.io | bash -s stable  curl -L raw.github.com/wayneeseguin/rvm/master/b
[08:36] <cai> ankurk_: well if you try pinging the domain and it's using the right ip you'll get a response unless the VPS ignores pings
[08:36] <ankurk_> I guess there's a config issue on VPS then?
[08:36] <ankurk_> I ping my VPS fine
[08:36] <ankurk_> *can
[08:37] <cai> ping the vps works... ping domain...
[08:38] <cai> if the dns is trying the right address, there's no difference
[08:39] <ankurk_> So I just deleted A record, added it again, now it works, weird
[08:39] <terminal_> ubuntu tweak works well for ubuntu 14.4?
[08:39] <cai> terminal_: mostly
[08:40] <|\n> i'm i messing something or libgl1-mesa-dri package which provides /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so doesn't really provides it after installation? (14.04)
[08:40] <terminal_> cai: in the site written "* For Ubuntu 13.10 and before: old versions"
[08:41] <carneiro> @ror hi
[08:41] <|\n> it's just a bit weird because no one reported that so i suspect it could be my fault, but no idea what could cause that
[08:41] <heidelfuchs> nobody an idea how to get rid of the intel driver installed via the official intel tool? :/
[08:42] <carneiro> ror:  what type of networking is configured in the VM ?
[08:42] <ror> @carneiro NAT
[08:43] <Mozak> hi
[08:43] <Mozak> How do I set systemwide proxy servers in Xubuntu
[08:43] <Mozak> How do I set systemwide proxy servers in Xubuntu
[08:43] <carneiro> ror:able to ping gateway ?
[08:43] <|\n> Mozak, redsocks and iptables
[08:44] <ror> carnieroi am able to ping google.com but not get.rvm.io
[08:44] <carneiro> ror: use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ when I ask you to give me output
[08:45] <carneiro> ror: dig @8.8.8.8 get.rvm.io  .. can you give me output ?
[08:46] <Mozak> need help
[08:46] <ror> carneiro: you want me to ping that agin
[08:46] <Snirt> hi mozak whats up?
[08:47] <carneiro> ror: try the command $ dig@8.8.8.8 get.rvm.io
[08:47] <carneiro> ror: paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:47] <carneiro> ror: what is your base OS ?
[08:48] <ror> carn: windows 7
[08:48] <ror> it says dig@8.8.8.8 command not found
[08:48] <Seveas> needs a space before the @
[08:49] <Mozak> hi Snirt
[08:49] <Mozak> Where are the system-wide proxy server settings ..
[08:49] <Mozak> Where are the system-wide proxy server settings .. any help
[08:49] <Seveas> Mozak: stop repeating.
[08:49] <Mozak> ok
[08:49] <Snirt> no echos
[08:49] <Snirt> no echos
[08:49] <Snirt> smirk
[08:50] <Seveas> :P
[08:50] <Snirt> I don't know mozak
[08:50] <Snirt> but am sure someone here does
[08:50] <Mozak> Ok snirt
[08:50] <Seveas> Mozak: if nobody here knows, try asking in #xubuntu
[08:51] <Snirt> hi seveas
[08:51] <Mozak> ok thank u
[08:51] <Snirt> where from mozak
[08:51] <ror> it says dig@8.8.8.8 command not found
[08:51] <Seveas> ror: needs a space before the @
[08:52] <carneiro> Seveas
[08:52] <carneiro> ror: needs help with http://askubuntu.com/questions/471798/installing-rvm-in-12-04-ubuntu-which-is-on-virtualbox
[08:52] <carneiro> he is not able to reach get.rvm.io
[08:52] <carneiro> from an Ubuntu VM
[08:52] <carneiro> correct ror: ?
[08:53] <ror> yes
[08:53]  * Snirt ponders
[08:53] <ror> now actually that command ran now carn
[08:53] <carneiro> ror: what was the output of the dig command ?
[08:53] <carneiro> can you pastebin it ?
[08:54] <ror> i am online with windows on this site
[08:54] <carneiro> ie paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:54] <Snirt> windoze bleck
[08:58] <ror_> carn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514590/
[08:58] <ror_> this is the output
[08:59] <carneiro> ror_: great
[09:00] <carneiro> ror_: now try this command telnet  97.107.133.48 443
[09:00] <carneiro> ror_:  and again paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[09:03] <ror_> carn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514597/
[09:05] <Snirt> whats the deal I come in channels and there are lots of people but non chatting all in dcc or what
[09:06] <ror_> look the result
[09:06] <carneiro> ror_:  now try  telnet  97.107.133.48 80
[09:06] <ror_> carn: connected
[09:06] <ror_> same result
[09:07] <carneiro> ror_: are you able to access get.rvm.io from windows machine
[09:07] <carneiro> ?
[09:07] <ror_> carn: yes i am
[09:09] <ror_> carn: yes i am able to access it from my windows
[09:10] <carneiro> ror_:  from ubuntu box try 'curl -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wayneeseguin/rvm/master/binscripts/rvm-installer |  bash -s stable --ruby'
[09:11] <ror_> carn: same thing
[09:11] <ror_> couldnot connect to host
[09:12] <carneiro> ror_: looks like a connectivity issue
[09:13] <ror_> okay..on which part
[09:13] <ror_> on my box
[09:13] <adminewb> this question plainly is or should be FAQ'd like everywhere, but all I can find are bad answers: how to reset the gnome/unity desktop on trusty? do I have to copy over certain dot folders or files from a new user created just for that purpose? my primary concern has to do with missing "gvfs mount" buttons on launcher, but other config items got fouled up as well; just want to start with a...
[09:13] <adminewb> ...clean slate
[09:14] <carneiro> ror_:  what is output of 'sudo  iptables -L -n' ?
[09:15] <adminewb> I have already tried deleting every dot folder I ever heard of that's conceivably desktop related, restarted, nothing changes
[09:16] <carneiro> ror_:  able to ping get.rvm.io ??
[09:16] <ror_> this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514627/
[09:17] <saleem> uupgrading precise to 12.04.4 broke my X , system keeps running error of low graphics mode , how to fix it? i purged nvidia drivers as well but that did not fix it
[09:17] <carneiro> ror_:  its sudo not sodu
[09:17] <ror_> ohh sorry
[09:18] <saleem> i used command sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-saucy linux-headers-generic-lts-saucy && sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-lts-saucy && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-saucy to upgrade the kernel
[09:18] <saleem> can someone please help me fix X issue?
[09:18] <ror_> this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514634/
[09:19] <ales> !list
[09:19] <adminewb> another unrelated question: how to reset USB devices like by double clicking a shortcut, to restore USB keyboard from a conniption state that won't seem to go away otherwise?
[09:20] <Seveas> adminewb: unplug and plug back in.
[09:20] <ales> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[09:20] <ales> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[09:20] <Seveas> !it | ales
[09:20] <adminewb> Seveas tried that thanks, but it doesn't come alive to the system that way
[09:20] <ror_> look the answer
[09:20] <Seveas> adminewb: then it's probably broken :)
[09:20] <adminewb> seems as if udev forgets about it or something
[09:21] <ror_> and yes i am able to ping the site with some data loss
[09:21] <carneiro> ror_:  what about curl 'www.google.com' ?
[09:21] <ror_> like from 56 2 recieved and rest lost
[09:21] <adminewb> Seveas the keyboard itself is not the issue, it's something about the driver state gets corrupted
[09:22] <adminewb> keyboard conniption has to do with the software not hardware; for all I know it starts talking Chinese
[09:22] <carneiro> ror_:  2 out of 56  ping request passed and rest all dropped ?
[09:23] <ror_> yes
[09:23] <carneiro> ror_: able to curl google.com ?
[09:23] <ror_> i have typed the command
[09:23] <adminewb> is there a way to kick udev in the pants so it will reset the keyboard config or the like?
[09:23] <ror_> lets see its in process
[09:23] <carneiro> ror_:  cancel it .. try curl -v google.com
[09:25] <someHuman> I am trying to get Steam via Software Center but showed me this http://imgur.com/6eUuUd3
[09:25] <ror_> it stuck at trying part
[09:25] <someHuman> Neither Steam from Steam site works too.
[09:26] <ror_> seems like i have problem with my curl command
[09:26] <ror_> it got stuck
[09:27] <saleem> guess no help for precise users is offered here i will go back to google
[09:28] <carneiro> ror_:  you do not have internet connectivty on Ubuntu VM
[09:28] <carneiro> ror_:  you need to fix that
[09:28] <carneiro> ror_:  also 2/56 success rate for ping is bad
[09:28] <ror_> finally i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514672/
[09:28] <ror_> yes thats too bad
[09:29] <adminewb> ok forget the keybd conniption, my original trouble needing more urgent help is: this question plainly is or should be FAQ'd everywhere, but all I can find are bad/outdated answers: how to reset the gnome/unity desktop on trusty? do I have to copy over certain dot folders or files from a new user created just for the purpose of serving as desktop template? my primary concern has to do with...
[09:29] <adminewb> ...missing "gvfs mount" buttons on launcher, but other config items got fouled up as well; just want to start with a cleanish slate
[09:29] <ror_> i have it through NAT which shares my windows internet
[09:29] <carneiro> ror_: are you able to browse from Firefox in Ubuntu ?
[09:30] <ror_> yes that is what i am doing ryt now
[09:33] <adminewb> !bot
[09:33] <ror_> is it a curl problem?
[09:33] <carneiro> ror_: able to browse ?
[09:33] <ror_> yes
[09:34] <ror_> i am able to google, chat and everything
[09:34] <carneiro> ror_:  from Ubuntu VM ?
[09:35] <ror_> yes ryt now i am talking to you with it
[09:36] <carneiro> ror_: why dont u try rvm using ubuntu command sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm
[09:36] <carneiro> ror_:  see http://www.the-tech-tutorial.com/?p=1868
[09:36] <ror_> it says ruby-rvm package not found
[09:36] <ror_> i tried it already
[09:37] <Zackio> Hello, is there an X11 configuration generator anywhere?
[09:37] <Enjolras> X -configure
[09:39] <ror_> i am not able to use this command http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514672/
[09:39] <ror_> ohh sorry not this
[09:39] <Zackio> Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
[09:39] <Zackio>   Configuration failed.
[09:39] <Zackio> Enjolras: ^^
[09:40] <ror_> 'bash -s << ' this
[09:41] <ror_> what do you think can be wrong??
[09:42] <carneiro> ror_:  looks like curl is not able to connect to internet but as you said firefox can
[09:43] <ror_> yes
[09:43] <ror_> i think the same
[09:43] <carneiro> ror_: firefox has any proxy server ?
[09:44] <ror_> no idea...but i didnt set any
[09:45] <ror_> i have google chrome too and in that i checked out for proxy setting and it was disabled
[09:47] <carneiro> ror_:  lets  try updating package repo of Ubuntu
[09:47] <ror_> okay
[09:47] <carneiro> ror_:  run sudo apt-get update -y
[09:47] <ror_> so what will be the command
[09:47] <HaaPut> ror_: try echo $http_proxy on terminal
[09:48] <cihan> selam,
[09:48] <cihan> burası
[09:48] <cihan> ne işe
[09:48] <cihan> yarıyor
[09:48] <cihan> tam olarak
[09:48] <carneiro> HaaPut:  dont think he has proxy http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514672/
[09:49] <k1l_> !tr | cihan
[09:49] <carneiro> HaaPut:  he has IPV6 network  as failover network
[09:49] <ror_> echo $http_proxy gave me no results
[09:49] <carneiro> ror_: thats good .. you dont have a proxy
[09:50] <HaaPut> carneiro: curl is connecting to 36.4.104.0 first which looks like ip of his ISP
[09:50] <ror_> ok..may be so what should be done
[09:50] <ror_> i have updated everything once again
[09:51] <carneiro> HaaPut: true ..so what do we deduce ?
[09:51] <carneiro> ror_:  was it succesful ?
[09:51] <ror_> yes
[09:51] <|\n> am i correct assuming that if there is a line in modeprobe.d config "alias nvidia nvidia_331" it means that `modinfo nvidia` should still work as well as `modinfo nvidia_331` does?
[09:53] <carneiro> ror_: try running  sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm again ?
[09:53] <HaaPut> ror_: try setting a longer timeout using --connect-timeout
[09:54] <ror_> carneiro: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514770/
[09:55] <ror_> how much longer you suggest @Haaput
[09:57] <ror_> HaaPut and what will happen if I try to st longer timeout
[09:57] <ror_> HaaPut: and what will happen if I try to st longer timeout
[09:58] <HaaPut> ror_: curl will try to connect for longer... try 300
[09:59] <HaaPut> ror_: did you try wget
[09:59] <ror_> no i have not tried wget
[09:59] <ror_> what will be the command in wget
[09:59] <carneiro> HaaPut:  not able to telnet to google.com on port 80
[10:00] <HaaPut> wget -r --tries=10 <url>
[10:00] <carneiro> HaaPut: but able to browse
[10:01] <ror_> carneiro: what was the command for telneting to google.com...let me try that one more time and paste the result
[10:03] <carneiro> ror_:  telnet google.com 80
[10:04] <ror_> yes i got stuck a t trying part
[10:04] <ror_> and later tells unable to connect
[10:06] <HaaPut> carneiro: this can happen when there is a proxyserver in which case ror_ can telnet to proxy and then do a get
[10:07] <HaaPut> firewall issues of proxy/ISP
[10:07] <HaaPut> just try telnet 36.4.104.0 80 and see what happens
[10:08] <carneiro> HaaPut: or we can export http_proxy and see curl
[10:08] <carneiro> ?
[10:08] <helmut__> hi
[10:09] <ror_> tried telnet 36.4.104.0 80 got stuck again
[10:09] <HaaPut> carneiro: but what to use for proxy address
[10:10] <HaaPut> ror_: what about wget
[10:10] <carneiro> HaaPut:  could be a transparent proxy ..
[10:10] <carneiro> HaaPut:  in which case .. we cant assume anything
[10:10] <ecod3> hello every one. I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and my network connection window does not display all tabs like in this link http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekyprojects.com%2Fwp-admin%2Fimages%2Fubuntu-vpn%2Fubuntu-pptp-vpn-2.png&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geekyprojects.com%2Fubuntu%2Fubuntu-vpn-connection%2F&h=326&w=446&tbnid=qo2WM5goJyCCtM%3A&zoom=1&docid=9FRmi8ACNYVmWM&ei=hMGBU__VAsfFPNymgdAG&tbm=isch&ved=
[10:10] <ecod3> 0CFgQMygDMAM&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1730&page=1&start=0&ndsp=17
[10:11] <ror_> HaaPut: caneriro: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514817/
[10:11] <ror_> i have not tried wget yet...how to use it?
[10:11] <carneiro> ror_:  try wget -r --tries=10 www.google.com
[10:12] <ecod3> any help?
[10:13] <ecod3> please anyone can help with my network connection window?
[10:14] <ror_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7514831/
[10:14] <ror_> carniero: see the result
[10:14] <wols_> ecod3: what is lacking?
[10:15] <ror_> it finally says connection unreachable
[10:19] <carneiro> ror_: you have some connectivty issues ..
[10:19] <carneiro> ror_: what happens when you put Bridged mode for Ubuntu VM ?
[10:19] <ror_> let me try that
[10:21] <carneiro> ror_:  try that and reboot the VM .. so it gets new IP address .. excuse me for sometime
[10:23] <HaaPut> careneiro, ror_:to me it looks like your ISP firewall is the issue, from IP it looks like a chineese ISP which makes me more suspicious...
[10:24] <ror__> it says that u have been logged out
[10:24] <ror__> no internet service
[10:24] <ror__> when i use bridged
[10:25] <bekks> ror__: Whats the exact output? Did you configure the IP in the guest correctly?
[10:25] <ror__> carniero:  can you see the output
[10:26] <ror__> bekks: tell me how to do that
[10:26] <ror__> may be that works
[10:27] <traplin> i am using Ubuntu in a virtual box, and have shared a folder using VM. i am trying to run mongodb off the shared folder but it keeps giving me a write error. how do i moutn the shared folder so that i can fully write on it, and other applications can write too
[10:27] <bekks> ror__: Tell you how to do what?
[10:28] <ror__> @carneiro: it will be wrking on NAT only i guess
[10:28] <bekks> traplin: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[10:29] <ror__> bekks: i am not able to use curl command properly to install rvm
[10:29] <ror__> carneiro: there?
[10:30] <traplin> bekks, i have used gid=1000,uid=1000 (and read that a few times), and it still gives me the error of not being able to writwe
[10:30] <bekks> traplin: And did you read the link given?
[10:30] <gry> I inserted a DVD but Thunar did not react. Where do I see its contents?
[10:30] <traplin> bekks: yeah
[10:31] <bekks> traplin: Within 90s? I strongly doubt that.
[10:31] <ecod3> hello every one. I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and my network connection window does not display all tabs like in this link http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekyprojects.com%2Fwp-admin%2Fimages%2Fubuntu-vpn%2Fubuntu-pptp-vpn-2.png&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geekyprojects.com%2Fubuntu%2Fubuntu-vpn-connection%2F&h=326&w=446&tbnid=qo2WM5goJyCCtM%3A&zoom=1&docid=9FRmi8ACNYVmWM&ei=hMGBU__VAsfFPNymgdAG&tbm=isch&ved=
[10:31] <ecod3> 0CFgQMygDMAM&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1730&page=1&start=0&ndsp=17
[10:32] <ecod3> any help???
[10:33] <ror__> HaaPut: did you figure out what is the problem?
[10:34] <ror__> do i need to install my VM again?
[10:34] <ror__> and what should be the settings if i have to do that?
[10:37] <motdd> how i can show my charakter system?
[10:38] <motdd> i think not utf-8
[10:38] <lonsomehell1> \topic
[10:38] <motdd> \topic
[10:38] <motdd> -bash: topic: command not found
[10:39] <motdd> how i can see  my front
[10:39] <adminewb> a more general question about gnome/unity in trusty: unity appears to be predicated pretty much on touch screens / handheld devices, disdaining conventional uses for mouse: is there some configuration that allows useful info to be shown with hovering the mouse pointer, or distinguishing left from right clicks? like especially with indicators
[10:39] <lonsomehell1> sorry I was getting this channel topic
[10:40] <Seveas> motdd: locale
[10:41] <motdd> which my front?
[10:41] <HaaPut> ror_: what is the output of getsebool
[10:41] <Seveas> motdd: I have no idea what you mean with that.
[10:42] <motdd> my bot not see turkih charakter in page
[10:42] <motdd> http://paste.debian.net/101665/
[10:42] <motdd> this locale
[10:42] <motdd> and
[10:42] <motdd> look
[10:42] <motdd> http://31.210.54.179:6734/weblogs/
[10:43] <motdd> look the limnoria bot channel
[10:43] <Seveas> stop using enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <motdd> are u see?
[10:43] <Seveas> motdd: ok, that has *nothing* to do with ubuntu. Ask whoever wrote that bot.
[10:44] <_abc_> Hello. I have ubuntu lts 10.04 on 2 systems and I have some issues when booting and when automounting usb sticks.
[10:44] <_abc_> Issues are: usb sticks are mounted ro and I have to remove and replug them to mount them rw
[10:44] <motdd> ok
[10:45] <_abc_> Boot time window manager frequently (50% of the time) starts with no window decorations on windows.
[10:45] <Seveas> _abc_: 10.04 is now four years old. Time to upgrade.
[10:45] <_abc_> Any ideas where to look? This is lts 10.04 which is distributed with linuxcnc so upgrade options are VERY limited
[10:45] <lonsomehell1> I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed in a GPT partition table i have a separate boot partition and I want to install windows 8.1 . Should i add a new EFI partition ?
[10:45] <Seveas> _abc_: well, it's out of support by now, so you're out of luck.
[10:46] <_abc_> As in, none. Therefore, any suggestions to upgrade the ubuntu, itself, will have to be ignored. So I appeal to those who _know_ how to tweak options in 10.04 to make the problems less obvious.
[10:46] <Seveas> _abc_: 10.04 is out of support, so time to go back to linuxcnc for suport.
[10:46] <|\n> since 14.04 i have no way to use my discrete graphics with optimus, bumblebee stopped working and nvidia-prime acts like this guy describes http://askubuntu.com/questions/457446/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-prime-is-it-supported-no (also got the same 540M here) and i confirm that nothing helps, what are my options? and/or any hints appreciated
[10:47] <Seveas> !bumblebee
[10:47] <_abc_> So, in compiz, what can cause lack of window decorations at startup? They appear if I restart the session. I assume it is memory contention? Would that be the cause? Where would error messages appear? In which log?
[10:47] <|\n> Seveas, it stopped working completely since i upgraded to 14.04
[10:47] <Seveas> _abc_: you can keep ignoring me, but that doesn't magically make 10.04 supported again :)
[10:48] <_abc_> I said 'compiz'.
[10:48] <_abc_> ;)
[10:48] <_abc_> It is very very hard to wedge in realtime support and make it work right and it takes time.
[10:48] <_abc_> Admittedly linuxcnc.org should speed up a little but they did not. Who am I to complain.
[10:49] <Seveas> |\n: I don't know anything about bumblebee, but it looks like that askubuntu post has an answer. Did you try it?
[10:49] <lonsomehell1> I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed in a GPT partition table i have a separate boot partition and I want to install windows 8.1 . Should i add a new EFI partition (fat 32 with boot flag )?
[10:50] <|\n> Seveas, otherwise i wouldn't come, i tried various things, my own assumptions and stuff for 5 hours in a row =) but thank you for your attention to the problem
[10:50] <ikonia> lonsomehell1: are you using an EFI bootloader ?
[10:50] <lonsomehell1> I am using grub2
[10:50] <Seveas> |\n: maybe try the #bumblebee channel if nobody here can offer any help
[10:51] <ikonia> lonsomehell1: are you using an EFI boot pocess though ? or legacy bios configuration ?
[10:51] <lonsomehell1> I don't know sorry
[10:51] <ikonia> lonsomehell1: if you don't know - why are you asking if you should create an EFI partition ?
[10:52] <lonsomehell1> I installed windows 8.1 and it created a EFI partition
[10:52] <ikonia> lonsomehell1: look in your bios config/motherboard documentation and confirm if you are using an EFI boot process or not
[10:52] <lonsomehell1> ok
[10:52] <ikonia> lonsomehell1: that's going to be key
[10:53] <theadmin> lonsomehell1: Windows 8.1 creates a boot partition regardless of whether you use EFI or legacy, it needs that so that you may encrypt the system drive easily
[10:53] <|\n> Seveas, now it is recommended to use nvidia-prime scheme, so at the current point my difficults are related to this, however, thank you, i will consider getting back to my attempts to make bumblebee working :/
[10:56] <Spaceraver> Hi all.
[10:56] <nodedfree> ok i need help
[10:56] <_abc_> Ask your question do not ask to ask nodedfree
[10:57] <nodedfree> ./usr/bin/php /var/www/cron.php > /dev/null
[10:57] <nodedfree> without the dot
[10:57] <ikonia> that's not a question
[10:57] <nodedfree> it doesn't work, also installed php5-cli
[10:57] <ikonia> define "doesn't work"
[10:57] <_abc_> 'it does not work' sounds like a windows error message...
[10:58] <_abc_> Now try a linux one.
[10:58] <nodedfree> */1 * * * * /usr/bin/php /var/www/cron.php > /dev/null
[10:58] <nodedfree> linux
[10:58] <theadmin> nodedfree: You want "php5", not "php"
[10:58] <ikonia> _abc_: please don't be silly - it's not a "windows error"
[10:58] <nodedfree> on "crontab -e"
[10:58] <ikonia> nodedfree: what is the error
[10:58] <ikonia> nodedfree: confirm the proces works outside of cron
[10:58] <_abc_> ikonia: Windows errors are 'unspecified errors' >;)
[10:58] <_abc_> Aka 'move on, nothing to see here'
[10:58] <ikonia> _abc_: thre are verbose windows message in the same way you get messages look "kernel oops" in linux
[10:58] <nodedfree> ikonia, that's the point! it doesn't work even on copy/paste
[10:59] <nodedfree> only if i join manualy to the site
[10:59] <_abc_> ikonia: Indeed. And the source to run those against is ...?
[10:59] <ikonia> nodedfree: what's the actual error
[10:59] <nodedfree> ikonia, the're is no error.. i even see the command running into the syslog
[11:00] <ikonia> nodedfree: so what's the problem then ?
[11:00] <ikonia> can you please explain what the failure is
[11:00] <nodedfree> ikonia, the php script doesn't run
[11:00] <ikonia> nodedfree: what is the exact line you are using on the command line
[11:00] <nodedfree> it should add line to exsisting txt file
[11:00] <nodedfree> ikonia,  /usr/bin/php5 /var/www/www.icellulab.com/cron.php > /dev/null
[11:00] <ikonia> nodedfree: remove > /dev/null to get more info
[11:01] <ikonia> nodedfree: and does /usr/bin/php5 exist ?
[11:01] <nodedfree> src
[11:01] <nodedfree> sec
[11:01] <Spaceraver> @obuttu tell me about releases
[11:02] <nodedfree> ikonia, there is php5 and php, also without the "dev/null" there is nothing appening after pasting
[11:02] <ikonia> nothing appending ?
[11:02] <nodedfree> no
[11:02] <ikonia> nodedfree: I'm really sorry, I'm having a hard time understanding what you are saying/meaning
[11:03] <nodedfree> ikonia, when i hit enter with the command you told me so (without dev/null) -> i get nothing. new line
[11:03] <ikonia> nodedfree: that suggests it's executing without error
[11:04] <ikonia> if I understand what you are saying correctly
[11:04] <nodedfree> without error.. and without the script
[11:04] <ikonia> nodedfree: put a basic "echo" command in the script
[11:04] <ikonia> that will confirm it's executing it
[11:05] <nodedfree> ikonia, May 25 15:04:01  CRON[12015]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/php5 /var/www/cron.php)
[11:05] <nodedfree> syslog
[11:05] <ikonia> nodedfree: why are you referencing cron ??
[11:05] <ikonia> nodedfree: I've told you not to use cron
[11:05] <nodedfree> ikonia, i also tried without the cron
[11:05] <ikonia> I told you NOT to use cron
[11:05] <ikonia> and you're still using cron,
[11:05] <ikonia> I'm not wasting more time with this
[11:06] <nodedfree> i do not...
[11:06] <nodedfree> ikonia,  what line you want me to execute now
[11:07] <nodedfree> ikonia, "echo" into the php? i think it will not result nothing
[11:07] <JerryP> Hello, I am installing Ubuntu next to Win8.0. I shrank the disk and now have the Unallocated space. I believe I read that you should partition it in windows to avoid potential booting issues from installing linux. Do you believe this to be true? Do I just simply create a new simple volume or any other steps that I should take? Thanks!
[11:08] <_abc_> nodedfree: /usr/bin/php5 /var/www/cron.php
[11:08] <_abc_> nodedfree: this will give an error message. If not, echo $? immediately after it
[11:08] <nodedfree> _abc_, also, new line. no result
[11:08] <theadmin> JerryP: You don't need to partition in Windows, partitioning in the Ubuntu installer makes a lot more sense
[11:08] <_abc_> nodedfree: output of echo $? is?
[11:08] <nodedfree> 0
[11:08] <_abc_> Okay so the command DID run ok
[11:08] <JerryP> theadmin, you havent heard of anyone having booting issues doing it that way? I thought I read somewhere that i could corrupt the windows booter, but I can't find where I ran that
[11:09] <_abc_> nodedfree: How did you decide it did not?
[11:09] <JerryP> *ran that = read that
[11:09] <yeats> JerryP: just leave the partitioned space available for the ubuntu installer
[11:09] <nodedfree> _abc_, file_put_contents('some.txt', "New Line"."\r\n", FILE_APPEND);
[11:09] <JerryP> ok, cool, thanks!
[11:09] <yeats> JerryP: if you shrank the partition within windows, all should be well
[11:09] <nodedfree> doesn't adding any new line
[11:09] <nodedfree> but when i enter with the internet, it works
[11:09] <theadmin> JerryP: Meh this doesn't make any sense, you'll be fine
[11:09] <JerryP> 1 more question, I have 200GB free, but it will only let me shrink by 66GB. I am running defrag now to see if I can get up to 100GB, any other suggestions?
[11:09] <nodedfree> all permissions to the files already have
[11:10] <lonsomehell> My motherboard is UEFI
[11:10] <JerryP> (It said 0% defrag, and I ran defrag yesterday, but I just deleted another 50GB of stuff to see if it would help)
[11:10] <_abc_> nodedfree: is file 'some.txt' located in your current working directory when you execute the command?
[11:11] <nodedfree> _abc_, the some.txt positioned at the same folder of cron.php, yes
[11:11] <_abc_> and you execute the command in that 'folder' by hand?
[11:11] <_abc_> nodedfree: ?
[11:12] <nodedfree> /usr/bin/php5 /var/www/cron.php
[11:12] <nodedfree> ?
[11:12] <_abc_> nodedfree: cd /tmp && /usr/bin/php5 /var/www/cron.php
[11:12] <nodedfree> sec
[11:12] <nodedfree> to copy/paste it?
[11:12] <_abc_> execute the commands as I wrote them
[11:12] <|\n> also just as a pre-caution http://www.php.net/manual/ru/function.file-put-contents.php#82934
[11:13] <_abc_> err /ru/ -> nyet
[11:13] <nodedfree> _abc_, now im on /tmp folder
[11:13] <nodedfree> and nothing happend
[11:13] <nodedfree> echo $1 shows nothing
[11:13] <_abc_> nodedfree: file was not created?
[11:14] <nodedfree> yes
[11:14] <nodedfree> with "New Line"
[11:14] <_abc_> edit the command in the php file so 'some.txt' becomes '/tmp/some.txt' and try again, from /tmp folder
[11:14] <nodedfree> what happend?
[11:15] <_abc_> Your php may have privileges too low to write outside its designated file tree. This is really a #php question. You should move this discussion to #php
[11:15] <|\n> since 14.04 i have no way to use my discrete graphics with optimus, bumblebee stopped working and nvidia-prime acts like this guy describes http://askubuntu.com/questions/457446/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-prime-is-it-supported-no (also got the same 540M here) and i confirm that nothing helps, what are my options? and/or any hints appreciated
[11:15] <nodedfree> _abc_, wow it works now
[11:15] <nodedfree> writing to the /tmp/some.txt
[11:16] <_abc_> nodedfree: okay so php presumes the script is started in some special directory, and you can't write there as your current user using php
[11:16] <nodedfree> what is the privileges you mentioned? there is no way to fix this?
[11:16] <_abc_> nodedfree: go to #php /join and ask there
[11:16] <_abc_> There are many ways to fix the privileges all of which are security risks
[11:16] <nodedfree> _abc_, you think full path will work? /var/www/some.txt ?
[11:17] <_abc_> It will work IF the target directory is writable by php when it is executed.
[11:17] <_abc_>  /tmp is special because it is +t and can be written by anyone.
[11:17] <nodedfree> _abc_, thank you! i tried to fix this so bad. nice day
[11:17] <_abc_> This is NOT an ubuntu question. Take it to #php
[11:19] <JerryP> Anyone run starcraft 2 on ubuntu via Wine?
[11:21] <bekks> JerryP: What if someone does?
[11:22] <JerryP> Does it work well, any tips/tricks to getting it working?
[11:22] <bazhang> check the appdb JerryP
[11:22] <bazhang> !appdb | JerryP
[11:23] <JerryP> thnx!
[11:24] <lonsomehell__> I checked and my mother board is set to UEFI boot mode
[11:25] <lonsomehell__> So what should I do to install windows 8 with Ubuntu 14.04
[11:25] <JerryP> you are on win8 now and want to install ubunut?
[11:25] <JerryP> 8.0 or 8.1?
[11:26] <lonsomehell__> I have ubuntu and I want to install win 8.1
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> lonsomehell__  better ask in ##windows how to install windows
[11:26] <JerryP> ....why?
[11:27] <JerryP> Why not just install virtal PC and run it virtually?
[11:27] <lonsomehell__> I need to have graphics running
[11:27] <lonsomehell__> My problem is how to configure ubuntu boot partition
[11:28] <lonsomehell__> should I have like a EFI partition and another one as boot
[11:28] <lonsomehell__> or only 1 partition
[11:28] <bekks> lonsomehell__: one is sufficient
[11:29] <lonsomehell__> So I create a 200 mb fat32 partition and add boot flag and I will be set to go ?
[11:29] <JerryP> I hope you mean 200GB
[11:30] <bekks> lonsomehell__: Thats not how things work at that point.
[11:30] <bekks> !efi | lonsomehell__
[11:30] <lonsomehell__> Thanks
[11:31] <JerryP> bekks, If I am on Win8 and going to install Ubuntu in my free space, I don't need to disable secure boot, right? I was able to boot ubuntu via USB, does that indicate that it is fine with the secure boot?
[11:32] <bekks> JerryP: I never dealt with Win8 or secure boot, sorry.
[11:33] <JerryP> NP, seems from that page that you *shouldn't* need to disable it.... "Boot your PC using the LiveDVD or LiveUSB and choose "Try Ubuntu". If you get a Secure boot or signature error, you may wish to disable SecureBoot as described here, then retry to boot the disk. "
[11:34] <JerryP> god I am excited to get off of windows8. I think it is the worst OS I have ever been forced to use. The only one I can think of that was worse was WindowsME, but a quick downgrade to XP fixed that
[11:36] <_abc_> Wait, the 8.1 upgrade with forced Bing was announced today JerryP >;)
[11:39] <Bundestrojaner> hello
[11:39] <theadmin> _abc_: You misunderstand what "Windows 8.1 with Bing" is tbh, it's just a low-budget version of Win8.1. Bing ain't forced, it's just default.
[11:39] <Bundestrojaner> i've created an audio upmix (2.0->2.1) in ~/.asoundrc, which also works when i test it with aplay.
[11:39] <Bundestrojaner> How can i get it listed as audio device in applications like clementine and VLC?
[11:39] <_abc_> theadmin: 'just default' lol
[11:39] <theadmin> _abc_: Yes, you can change it.
[11:39] <_abc_> If you are a guru [tm]
[11:40] <_abc_> Okay, I am exaggerating a little.
[11:40] <theadmin> _abc_: ...no, exactly like you can change it in Windows 8 or Windows 7.
[11:40] <stwbay> Is there a bug in Trusty Nautilus? It is ignoring the file size limit for thumbnail generation. I set it to generate for only files under 1M in size and cleared the cache (~/.cache/thumbnails). It's still generating thumbnails for my video files.
[11:41] <|\n> since 14.04 i have no way to use my discrete graphics with optimus, bumblebee stopped working and nvidia-prime acts like this guy describes http://askubuntu.com/questions/457446/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-prime-is-it-supported-no (also got the same 540M here) and i confirm that nothing helps (not only for me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455124/how-do-i-get-switchable-graphics-to-work-on-my-samsung-rf711-with-intel-hd-gef/468645), what are my options? and/
[11:41] <|\n> or any hints appreciated
[11:45] <troop> hi.
[11:49] <nashant> Can anyone help me resize my lvm partition? I'm getting the error "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read" when I try to shrink the filesystem to 4TB (there's only 3.3TB on there). I run e2fsk -fy and it doesn't report any errors at all
[11:54] <gry> ikonia: I've upgraded successfully and am keeping an eye on the internet (you asked how it's going, so there you go) - it is stable so far
[11:55] <stwbay> theadmin: The user can change it but the OEM can't. This prevents them from offering some some partnership deals to the user.
[11:55] <stwbay> Am I the only one with this issue with Nautilus? [12:40] <stwbay> Is there a bug in Trusty Nautilus? It is ignoring the file size limit for thumbnail generation. I set it to generate for only files under 1M in size and cleared the cache (~/.cache/thumbnails). It's still generating thumbnails for my video files.
[11:56] <OerHeks> sounds like the 1st frame of the video is < 1 mb
[11:57] <stwbay> OerHeks: Let me quickly test that on jpgs
[11:58] <stwbay> OerHeks: I can confirm it's NOT generating thumbnails for jpegs. So you appear correct.
[11:59] <stwbay> OerHeks: Is this a bug? It does take quite a while to open the video files and generate the thumbnail.
[11:59] <OerHeks> stwbay, it is an open thought, as i cannot find this in any manual about thumbnail
[11:59] <OerHeks> yes, making a thumbnail is a bit of work, from a movie-file.
[12:00] <OerHeks> there is no option to skip .avi .mpg and such ?
[12:01] <stwbay> OerHeks: I believe it requires using dconf editor
[12:01] <stwbay> OerHeks: And I might want thumbnails for smaller videos
[12:04] <troop> i have installed vsftpd on ubuntu, filezilla connect perfectly, but when i try to connect to ftp via webstorm or phpstorm it says connection refused... anyone experienced this before?
[12:07] <stwbay> OerHeks: Thank you for your insight.
[12:08] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[12:08] <stwbay> OerHeks: Yes these videos will not watch themselves
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  +1
[12:13] <crocket> hi
[12:13] <crocket> How do I automatically put national holidays in ubuntu calendar?
[12:15] <aXe-> hi
[12:15] <petr0id> bye
[12:16] <aXe-> how can I dismiss peticular packets from "aptitude upgrade", for example a new linux-image..?
[12:17] <IdleOne> !pin
[12:26] <edux> hi. can someone tell me if ubuntu 10.04 (yes,i know old release) has the 'ondemand' cpu governor by default,and if not, how to enable it ? (laptop case here). thanks
[12:27] <jrib> !10.04 | edux
[12:27] <jrib> edux: it's not supported anymore, you should upgrade
[12:28] <edux> jrib, i know, but i like its simplicity,it just works,and it was slim..every release seems to be getting heavier for laptops. especially mine,who has already some years
[12:28] <jrib> edux: but you're not getting security updates; it's not good to run an OS not getting support
[12:29] <Slart> edux: I seem to recall that you had to install the cpu governor stuff manually before it started working.. or perhaps it was that you had to install the tools to _change_ the governor.. not 100% sure
[12:30] <edux> Slart,  i think it was something about a utility..a small app..aah, rcconfig or something, in the older releases, btu im not sure anymore
[12:31] <edux> jrib, i know, it will be mostly for offline use. So im okay with that. thanks
[12:31] <jrib> edux: imo, your priority should be to upgrade to a supported release.  If performance is really a concern (have you tried?), then consider using lubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <edux> yes. and xubuntu. xubuntu makes my cpu high anytime (go figure..it supposed to be light..)
[12:32] <jrib> edux: you should figure out what process is using your cpu; that's not normal
[12:34] <metho_> trying irssi, can everyone see this message
[12:35] <jrib> metho_: yes
[12:35] <metho_> jrib thanks for the reply, have you used irssi?
[12:35] <jrib> metho_: yes
[12:35] <metho_> jrib any tips?
[12:36] <IdleOne> yes, read http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[12:36] <jrib> metho_: switch to weechat?  Just kidding.  Umm, not really.  Check out the official site, there are some good tips there in the docs.  There's also a plugin package in the repos that includes lots of popular ones
[12:38] <metho_> jrib i'll try weechat, why am i not seeing everyone else's messages or i take it this channel is quite just now?
[12:38] <jrib> metho_: it is quiet now
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> metho_  as soon as you say which irc client you're using, someone will advice a different client
[12:39] <metho_> MonkeyDust: you right there, but weechat does indeed look good
[12:40] <CyberMent> I'm thinking about running linux inside windows.  Given that linux is more secure than windows, do I stand to lose any security benefits by running linux inside windows?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> CyberMent  why inside windows?
[12:40] <metho_> CyberMent: Security is linux's strong point, doesnt matter where you run, you always gona have a more secure os than windows
[12:41] <CyberMent> MonkeyDust: because it's very difficult to configure a dual boot on my laptop
[12:42] <whirlpool> CyberMent, have you tried dual booting?
[12:42] <CyberMent> MonkeyDust: and on top of that the computer is very fast, so I think it should handle it pretty well
[12:42] <CyberMent> whirlpool: yes I have, but it has UEFI and it always boots me into windows
[12:43] <metho_> why am i not seeing the user's list in irssi?
[12:43] <IdleOne> metho_: did you read http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[12:44] <IdleOne> I promise that will answer all your questions
[12:44] <IdleOne> about irssi anyway
[12:44] <whirlpool> CyberMent, is it the secure boot (don't know what it's called) that stops you from booting to linux?
[12:45] <whirlpool> I think there is a way to get around that...
[12:45] <CyberMent> whirlpool: it's the UEFI... I know there is a workaround, but I'm not sure I want to bother with it
[12:47] <metho_> exit
[12:56] <kevin_cool> hello...
[12:56] <kevin_cool> am new here...
[12:56] <zahira> i hae a proble with eternal usb keyboard not regnised
[12:58] <nerium> In iptables; will a packet stop if it matches a rule?
[12:58] <nerium> So if a rule says -j DROP, will it then drop?
[12:58] <nerium> or -j ACCEPT
[12:58] <nerium> or will it continue on until the end of the chain?
[12:59] <jrib> nerium: first match afaik
[13:01] <nerium> jrib: Thanks!
[13:03] <Vladislav> Why can I get problems with netfilter when I configure iptables?
[13:06] <ecod3> I am running ubuntu 14.04 and the network connection window does not display all option like in this image: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_ycymqTpBrA/T9ScX_XPGZI/AAAAAAAABRU/0XHuSHQCAgc/s1600/2012-06-10-200807_487x341_scrot.png
[13:06] <ecod3> any help please?
[13:07] <ecod3> I am running ubuntu 14.04 and the network connection window does not display all option like in this image: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_ycymqTpBrA/T9ScX_XPGZI/AAAAAAAABRU/0XHuSHQCAgc/s1600/2012-06-10-200807_487x341_scrot.png
[13:07] <ecod3> any advise?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> ecod3  we read it the first time
[13:07] <ecod3> sorry, ok
[13:08] <Seveas> ecod3: pastebin a screenshot of what yours looks like.
[13:08] <ecod3> ok one omemn
[13:08] <ecod3> moment
[13:09] <ecod3> it look like this in my desktop: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/choose-network-to-edit.jpg
[13:09] <husain> cek2
[13:09] <Seveas> ecod3: that looks correct. That first screenshot is real ol
[13:09] <Seveas> old*
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> ecod3  nothing wrong with that
[13:10] <ecod3> oh. I didn't know that. Thank you anyway guys. Really helpfully
[13:16] <Vladislav> how do I reset netfilter to the default config?
[13:22] <sl33k_> I can't mount my usb device. Here is the command I used http://paste.ubuntu.com/7515424/ Where is it going wrong?
[13:25] <spalding> Hello
[13:25] <spalding> I've installed LLDB from the repos and it segfaults when opened.
[13:26] <spalding> Anybody has the same problem?
[13:26] <spalding> How do I debug some program after downloading the debug symbols?
[13:26] <husain> never for me
[13:28] <HaaPut> sl33k:  sudo fdisk -l
[13:29] <beikeboy> ubuntu.com
[13:33] <sl33k_> Is this the proper thing to enter in my /etc/fstab? I am following this http://askubuntu.com/questions/301506/usb-drive-wont-mount
[13:33] <sl33k_> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS i386	/media/external 	auto	rw,user,noauto 		0	0
[13:34] <sl33k_> sudo blkid returned this
[13:34] <sl33k_> /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Ubuntu 14.04 LTS i386" TYPE="iso9660"
[13:36] <GlitchyGadget> Hello
[13:38] <sl33k_> Can someone help me?
[13:39] <HaaPut> sl33k: its an iso file not ntfs so your -t option is wrong
[13:40] <GlitchyGadget> Hello HaaPut
[13:40] <GlitchyGadget> How are you doing today?
[13:40] <Diplomat> hey guys, im having a weird problem.. after restart eth1 wont come up anymore
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> Diplomat  what's the outcome of   ifconfig          use a pastebin to show it to the channel
[13:42] <sl33k_> HaaPut: fdisk -l spitted this:
[13:42] <sl33k_> /dev/sdb1   *          64     1986559      993248   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[13:43] <Diplomat> i cant really copy and paste because im using ipmi
[13:43] <Diplomat> i can make a picture
[13:43] <Diplomat> one moment
[13:44] <IdleOne> Diplomat: you can use the pastebinit package
[13:44] <GlitchyGadget> I have a strange issue myself, but it's not a serious one, so it can wait.
[13:44] <GlitchyGadget> I just got my wireless bug resolved a few hours ago, so I know how frustrating it can be
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> Diplomat  type   sudo apt-get install pastebinit;ifconfig | pastebinit    and paste the url here
[13:45] <Diplomat> okay thanks one moment
[13:46] <Diplomat> ehehe i cant do it
[13:46] <Diplomat> because eth1 is my internet
[13:46] <Diplomat> http://puu.sh/90y2r.png that's my ifconfig
[13:47] <HaaPut> sl33k did you try with -t iso9660
[13:48] <Diplomat> http://puu.sh/90y8t.png and this is my interfaces file
[13:49] <GlitchyGadget> Does anyone know why a splash screen might no load during boot, even if no proprietary image drivers were installed?
[13:49] <no1[away]> @Diplomat: why do you have both "auto" and specify a static IP?
[13:49] <GlitchyGadget> might not*
[13:49] <Diplomat> because they are all static ips
[13:50] <Diplomat> and i have no idea honestly
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> Diplomat  i guess 'gateway' is simply missing for eth0:1
[13:50] <Diplomat> but eth1 is failing to come ip
[13:51] <GlitchyGadget> Yeah. It's really strange. When I go into the software updates section, it does tell me that certain things won't be installed - likely because of either "incomplete installs, or proprietary installs" - so it might be a conflict somewhere. Still, it's pretty minor, since I've seen linux builds with splash screens disabled
[13:52] <Diplomat> come up *
[13:52] <GlitchyGadget> I don't NEED a splash screen, but it would be nice. Still... pretty aesthetic
[13:52] <sl33k_> HaaPut: Good that it mounts now. However, I can't write to it it seems
[13:52] <sl33k_> mount: block device /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[13:52] <sl33k_> How do I copy files to it?
[13:54] <Diplomat> when i do ifup -v eth1 then that's the result: http://puu.sh/90yth.png
[13:55] <HaaPut> sl33k_: i am not sure if you can copy files directly to an iso image..
[13:55] <JerryP> hi, installing ubuntu for the first time (alongside win8), as of now my personal files are gonna stay on my win8 partition (pics, music, movies) the instructions i am following state to put 50gb for ubuntu, 12gb for swap and the rest for home. if i only have 100gb, does this sound like a good setup?
[13:55] <HaaPut> sl33k_: if you want a bootable ubuntu 14.04 iso there are for that
[13:56] <sl33k_> HaaPut: It is a usb stick. Maybe contains .iso file. How do I remove it?
[13:56] <sl33k_> or rather format it
[13:56] <Deihmos> Infused 10gb for Ubuntu
[13:57] <Deihmos> Entirely up to you
[13:57] <HaaPut> sl33k_: remove or format... u can use disk utility to format it
[13:57] <JerryP> where do programs get stored?
[13:57] <anudas> i have 37 GB for all ubuntu
[13:57] <Deihmos> I used
[13:57] <JerryP> im planning on testing starcraft2 which is 15gb alone
[13:58] <Deihmos> Released for Ubuntu?
[13:58] <KGM70> o/
[13:58] <JerryP> via wine
[13:58] <bipul> http://pastebin.com/qQgUJCZ4 I need to know the details of this data, Specially "HPFS/NTFS/exFAT" and why Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary.?
[13:58] <starkittn> Starcraft 2 for Steam?
[13:58] <starkittn> oh wine
[13:58] <Deihmos> Dont see the point but ok
[13:59] <copocaneta> has anyone here successfully set up svn or svn2web? I have one question in regards to running "svn propset" for particular repository directories (which don't show up at server side, only at client side). my question is, at the svn2web documentation it says 'Add an "svn2web" property to the branch or directory that should get copied', so it tells me to "cd" to my repository subdirectory and run "svn propset", the problem is that this repository subdire
[13:59] <JerryP> cause i want to play it and windows8 sucks, lol
[13:59] <JerryP> so would that be stored in home and not ubuntu?
[13:59] <newhoa> Does anyone happen to know if Comix/MComix is a standalone image viewer or if it uses another library to draw the images? It's cutting gifs off for me, but everything else seems to be fine. I'd used it before with gifs without problem, so I'm guessing it uses another program to draw the graphics and it needs fixing... I just don't know what.
[13:59] <Deihmos> Oh yea? And you expect better results with wine? Lmao
[14:01] <JerryP> god i hope so. with win8 i tried 1024 resolution and 2d graphics and it still wasnt working
[14:01] <JerryP> so is it stored in home or ubuntu?
[14:03] <JerryP> im assuming home?
[14:05] <KGM70> JerryP, what is ?
[14:05] <JerryP> programs are stored in the home partition or the ubuntu partition?
[14:05] <xxoobenyu> xxoobenyu
[14:05] <Deihmos> Maybe your PC just cannot handle it and wine isn't going to change that.
[14:06] <JerryP> and 10gb is enough for my ubuntu partition?
[14:07] <JerryP> deihmos, its an i7 with 6gb of memory that ran SC2 fine for months.
[14:07] <JerryP> you seem to answer questions i dont ask, but not ones that i do ask :)
[14:07] <Deihmos> Then you did something wrong
[14:08] <JerryP> thanks, youre so helpful
[14:08] <KGM70> JerryP, most apps are in /usr/bin, but not all
[14:09] <Deihmos> Well was just letting you know that wine sucks and more than likely it wouldn't even work
[14:09] <JerryP> and thats on the home partition? this is my first ubuntu install, thanks!
[14:09] <KGM70> no it's in / , root
[14:10] <JerryP> deihmos, obviously thats not the only reason to run linux over win8
[14:10] <GlitchyGadget> I checked with the dev's website for my form of lxle, and the lack of splash screen is a feature of the minimal build, so it's not an error
[14:10]  * GlitchyGadget breathes a sign of relief
[14:10] <JerryP> so thats on the ubuntu partition and i would need more than 10gb then?
[14:11] <classicthais> classicthais
[14:11] <classicthais> hi,
[14:11] <classicthais> someone  here?
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> classicthais  we see you
[14:12] <KGM70> JerryP, if you autoclean and autoremove periodically 10G might be enough
[14:12] <classicthais> who use 14.04 now?
[14:12] <classicthais> #ubuntu
[14:13] <KGM70> !poll | classicthais
[14:13] <classicthais> I think it not change from the old.
[14:13] <k1l_> classicthais: a lot. so why dont you ask your real technical support question?
[14:13] <KGM70> classicthais, don't poll the chat, just state you issue
[14:16]  * sp-rackspace strolled in while trying out weechat, and thinks it's pretty decent
[14:17] <classicthais> this chat for talk real time or not?
[14:22] <SchrodingersScat> classicthais: oh, it's real
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> classicthais  if you want nice social chat, type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:26] <KGM70> MonkeyDust, nice? that's a matter of opinion ")
[14:32] <alnassafi> Hi all
[14:32] <alnassafi> I have windows 8.1 installed on sdd raid 0 and ubuntu 14.04 installed on usb raid 0 ..
[14:33] <alnassafi> I can boot from mac but can not boot it when attached to windows .. how can I fix that
[14:33] <Deihmos> Raid 0 is so uncommon now that we have ssd drives
[14:34] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[14:34] <alnassafi> I meant I can boot ubuntu when attached to my iMac and can not boot ubuntu when attached to my windows 8.1 machine .. any idea?\I have raid 0 ssd for windows and raid 0 on USB for Ubuntu
[14:34] <Deihmos> Efi?
[14:34] <ubuntu-studio> ....can i talk on ita channel __!
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> !raid | alnassafi
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> !it | ubuntu-studio
[14:35] <alnassafi> I said that thinking it is the problem ..
[14:35] <alnassafi> I want just to boot ubuntu
[14:35] <whoever> Deihmos: and what realy is the point of Raid0 half of the data goes to each hd , that its a pointless Raid
[14:35] <alnassafi> Anyone familiar with how to make windows loader to do that
[14:36] <ActionA> Wondering if someone might offer some insight as to why my rsync via ssh is failing with broken pipe even though I have no issues ssh'ing between the boxes in either direction?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7515663/
[14:36] <Deihmos> I used it back in the day before ssd became affordable
[14:36] <alnassafi> Where I can find good resources for dual booting Ubuntu 14.04 and windows 8.1
[14:36] <Deihmos> Much faster thann using a single drive
[14:37] <whoever> Deihmos: yes but if one hd goes so does your data
[14:37] <Deihmos> And if your single drive goes b ad hat happens?
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> ActionA: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127369/how-to-prevent-write-failed-broken-pipe-on-ssh-connection
[14:37] <whoever> alnassafi: google there are tons
[14:38] <alnassafi> I tried .. no luck .. will keep trying .. thanx all
[14:38] <bipul>  Can you tell me please on which partition my OS is being installed ? Is it on sda1 and sda7 ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7515616/
[14:38] <Deihmos> I don't see the difference. Just make a backup
[14:38] <whoever> alnassafi: well were are you stuck doing that, I use to set up dual boots all the time
[14:40] <whoever> Deihmos: ya but i was just pointing out that there is no redunancy with 0 and that it doesn't have a "real purpose"
[14:40] <ActionA> lotuspsychje: and how is this relevant when the command fails from console?
[14:40] <Trudko>  hi guzs I have installed ubuntu side to side with windows 7. When I try to lead windows screen refresh back to grup boot menu and nothing happens
[14:40] <whoever> Deihmos: all you get with 0 is a speed increase
[14:40] <Deihmos> Purpose is speed
[14:41] <Deihmos> That's why unused it
[14:41] <alnassafi> whoever: The same here .. but now I can not .. it starts untill it reaches half way then it goes to the initram shell and stays there
[14:41] <Deihmos> I used it
[14:43] <whoever> alnassafi: so you made your 2 partitions(one physical drive), installed windows to one, installed ubuntu to the second and maunually formatted that, and you installed the boot loader to the sda1 not sda2 .?
[14:45] <whoever> Deihmos: and what do you do what you can nolonger purchase that drive , or you have never had that prob
[14:46] <wols_> whoever: it doesn't matter if it's the same drive
[14:47] <whoever> wols_: i thaught it did, well at least it had to be the same size . am i wrong
[14:47] <wols_> no even that. if you have two drives, the smaller sized one determines overall space
[14:48] <whoever> wols_: wow ... damn all these years i thaught all drive had to be the same size
[14:49] <whoever> wols_: so now you have me re thinking raid. is using the mobo raid software worth a shit
[14:50] <whoever> wols_: or is there a way to setup raid durring ubuntu install
[14:51] <Trudko>  hi guzs I have installed ubuntu side to side with windows 7. When I try to lead windows screen refresh back to grup boot menu and nothing happens
[14:51] <alex_> salut
[14:52] <holstein> Trudko: when you try to what?
[14:52] <Trudko> holstein: try to lead windows
[14:52] <bekks> Trudko: load
[14:52] <holstein> Trudko: you had windows installed? correct? and you installed ubuntu?
[14:52] <Trudko> yes
[14:53] <holstein> Trudko: ubuntu is booting?
[14:53] <Trudko> yes
[14:53] <Trudko> i am in it right now
[14:53] <holstein> Trudko: windows is booting?
[14:53] <Trudko> no
[14:53] <wols_> woshty: no it's not worth it. RAID is never worth it at home anymore
[14:53] <holstein> Trudko: do you see windows in the grub boot screen at boot?
[14:53] <Trudko> when i try to boot it , grup screen is refreshed and nothing happens
[14:53] <Trudko> yes
[14:54] <holstein> Trudko: i would start simple.. running "sudo update-grub", then i would try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:54] <Trudko> ok will trz
[14:54] <ActionA> Wondering if someone might offer some insight as to why my rsync via ssh is failing with broken pipe even though I have no issues ssh'ing between the boxes in either direction?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7515663/
[14:55] <holstein> ActionA: try something continuous in your test.. like scp between the hosts, where you can see output
[15:04] <melt7777> is there a way to change the default program for say an iso file? i installed isomaster, and it works, but i would like to be able to right-click an iso and extract using isomaster instead of archive manager, which doesn't work right.
[15:07] <SchrodingersScat> melt7777: can you right click on an iso and 'open with..' then choose thi isomaster and click the button for using that program from now on?
[15:08] <copocaneta> has anyone here successfully set up svn or svn2web? I have one question in regards to running "svn propset" for particular repository directories (which don't show up at server side, only at client side). my question is, at the svn2web documentation it says 'Add an "svn2web" property to the branch or directory that should get copied', so it tells me to "cd" to my repository subdirectory and run "svn propset", the problem is that this repository subdire
[15:08] <melt7777> SchrodingersScat, i did that
[15:10] <jj995> I just upgraded my ppa package version and it shows on launchpad, yet when I run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install my-package" it shows "my-package is already the newest version" -- is there a time delay in upgrades working?
[15:11] <curiousg> hey guys, just did a minimal install of ubuntu. i installed pulse audio, and pavcontrol shows the bars moving up and down when watching a youtube video, but there is no sound. any ideas what i cna do
[15:12] <Mhaddog00k> good morning
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> curiousg  in a terminal, type      alsamixer     if you see MM, go there and hit m
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> Mhaddog00k  other timezone
[15:13] <curiousg> alsamixer command isnt there
[15:13] <curiousg> MonkeyDust: i installed pulse audio. not sure if alsamixer should be there
[15:13] <Mhaddog00k> does someone know how to keep on booting server 14.04.. it is getting stuck with this at boot: chmod: changing permissions of /tmp/file cache/lock operation not permitted
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> curiousg  yes, install alsamixer first, then
[15:14] <wolter> Hi everybody; Unity is loading my theme wrong: wrong font, wrong iconset. If I give it a while, it will fix itself, but it takes long. Otherwise I have restart both Unity shell and my desktop manager. What could be causing this? It seems to have started happening after I booted into my Windows session, but badblocks on my home dir ran ok. Help me please :)
[15:14] <Mhaddog00k> good afternoon for you then or are you in AU so then good nite! @MonkeyDust
[15:14] <curiousg> MonkeyDust: you mean alsa-utils?
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> !find alsamixer
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> curiousg  not sure
[15:16] <sl33k_> When I mount mu usb stick I see two directories for the same media called 4.0 GB Volume and external(which is the mount point I used). How is it so?
[15:16] <curiousg> MonkeyDust: installed alsa mixer, put the volume all the way up, no MM. still no audio
[15:17] <sl33k_> I can also not write to my /dev/sdc usb device. What gives?
[15:18] <sl33k_> It is read-only
[15:18] <JerryP> hi! What virtual pc do you guys use/recommend for running windows on Ubuntu? Oracle Virtual Box?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> JerryP  yes, it's in the repos
[15:18] <k1l_> JerryP: virtualbox is the easiest, yes
[15:20] <JerryP> Sorry Monkey, newbie. Whats the repos?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> JerryP  in the software center -- a repo is a software source
[15:20] <k1l_> JerryP: ubuntu has a lot of programs made ready to use with ubuntu. just install virtualbox from the softwarecenter or use apt-get install in terminal
[15:21] <JerryP> MonkeyDust, great, thanks, thats what I thought
[15:22] <JerryP> k1l_, thanks, I found it in the software center. would it just be sudo apt-get virtualbox if I wanted to do it that way?
[15:22] <k1l_> apt-get install packagename
[15:22] <JerryP> cool, thanks
[15:24] <stwbay> In byobu, scrolling the terminal window is weird -> it scrolls the whole window, not the separate buffers. Any workaround?
[15:27] <jj995> how do I upgrade to the latest version of a package for my series?  I tried "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bamliquidator" and I didn't get the latest version that shows on launchpad
[15:28] <jeffw> how can i change/repair the boot logo screen?
[15:28] <k1l_> jj995: which ubuntu version are you on?
[15:29] <k1l_> jj995: wait, that is not even in the repos
[15:29] <jj995> k1l_ 12.04 LTS, it is in a ppa I added, and the latest version shows on the ppa
[15:30] <jj995> k1l_: the ppa shows version 0.6 , and "dpkg -s bamliquidator" shows 0.5
[15:30] <k1l_> jj995: see apt-cache policy packagename
[15:30] <franz> #chatzone
[15:31] <k1l_> jj995: are you sure the launchpadversion is for 12.04?
[15:33] <jj995> k1l_: yes, the launchpad version is for precise. apt-cache policy shows the installed/candidate version both 0.5 and lists the ppa url, but makes no reference to the new version 0.6.0
[15:33] <jj995> k1l_: just to be clear, I'm the author of the ppa and I just upgraded the version on launchpad about 5 minutes ago -- is there some sort of delay between version upgrades and when apt-get will use it?
[15:34] <k1l_> can you link that launchpad ppa?
[15:34] <jj995> https://launchpad.net/~bradner-computation/+archive/pipeline?field.series_filter=precise
[15:35] <k1l_> jj995: i bet launchpad has some sort of loadbalancer and that will take some time to sync. but you could ask in the packageing channel
[15:35] <jj995> k1l_: oh, I see now that launchpad shows the build failed due to a missing dependency... I didn't expect launchpad to show the latest version on the main page even if the build failed
[15:36] <stwbay> Python 3.4's pyvenv is broken in Trusty. It's a critical feature of python 3.4. There's a bug report saying it will be patched in Debian and SRU'ed into Trusty. Approximately when can we expect .1?
[15:37] <k1l_> stwbay: best is to make a bug report on launchpad (if not existend yet) and ask the maintainer there
[15:37] <JerryP> I was following the instructions for installing Ubuntu next to Win8 and I think instead of "sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair" I did "sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair &&boot-repair" the only thing that didn't work was that I had to go into the bios and change the primary boot to the HD instead of Windows Booter, do you think this could repair the issue or just let a sleeping dog lie?
[15:38] <jj995> k1l_: I didn't realize that there was a dedicated packaging channel, thanks for the heads up!
[15:39] <sl33k_> Is there a easy way to decipher the permissions for this value? dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Apr 17 07:07 /media/external
[15:39] <stwbay> k1l_: The bug is already reported in both Ubuntu and Debian, and there is a patch for it. I think they are waiting for Debian to decide if this is how they want to fix it (which I understand is nothing to do with Ubuntu) but I'm fairly sure (as they said) it will be fixed in .1 one way or the other, since Py3.4 is currently broken and it's not exactly unimportant :-)
[15:40] <jeffw> how can i change/repair the boot logo screen?
[15:41] <k1l_> stwbay: but its the ubuntu maintainer that decides when a new version will be packaged. or the debian maintainer that in this case. so please talk to them
[15:41] <k1l_> best way is to comment on the bug report.
[15:42] <bekks> sl33k_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[15:44] <stwbay> k1l_: Who is the maintainer for the SRU?
[15:44] <k1l_> stwbay: that is listed on the launchpad page
[15:45] <mattwj2002> hi guys could I get some help with my bluetooth headset in ubuntu?
[15:46] <k1l_> stwbay: are we talking about original ubuntu packages or do you talk about PPAs?
[15:46] <mattwj2002> my bluetooth headset pairs just find with ubuntu but it doesn't allow me to select high fidelity
[15:47] <motdd> how i can change my time?
[15:47] <motdd> for turkey
[15:48] <stwbay> k1l_: My question was when is the Trusty Tahr service release to 14.04.01 due? (It was in relation to a core ubuntu package problem: a major part of Python 3.4 is missing; and 'all sources' seem to imply it will be fixed in the SRU)
[15:49] <k1l_> stwbay: i think you are mixing a lot of things there. 14.04.1 is due on 24th july
[15:49] <mattwj2002> I wish for the love of God bluetooth would actually work in Ubuntu for a change
[15:49] <motdd> Sun May 25 15:48:22 2014
[15:49] <motdd> i want change this time
[15:50] <k1l_> stwbay: see the right side with filing a bug and asking a question: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/python3
[15:50] <k1l_> motdd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:53] <stwbay> k1l_: Thanks for info (with date!). That's what I was after. The specific bug is here. For those that arent familar with python, pyvenv is python's "chroot" that allows you install 3rd party code in its own separate 'env' so it doesnt mess with the system intepreter, or other projects. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1290847
[16:09] <motdd> k1l_ done thank you :)
[16:10] <mattwj2002> man I hate bluetooth
[16:10] <mattwj2002> :(
[16:10] <mattwj2002> anyone here?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | mattwj2002
[16:13] <motdd> i like ubuntu!
[16:13] <Trudko> hi guys, I have installed ubuntu on same drive as I have windows. I have around 62 GB of free space but ubuntu installation offered me  only around 39 gb for ubuntu why?
[16:14] <frank_o> Hi, I need to monitor the highest amount of memory usage from two different operations. At http://askubuntu.com/questions/9642/how-can-i-monitor-the-memory-usage I found `watch -n 5 free -m`, but that won't tell me the highest peak during a given time. Any ideas?
[16:14] <frank_o> motdd: It's ok
[16:15] <stwbay> Trudko: Which windows verison?
[16:15] <Trudko> 7
[16:15] <EugeneBandit> Hi everyone! Looking at my CPU usage, i notice that irq/18-rtl_pci uses more than 50% all the time. Is it normal ? I run a low-latency kernel.
[16:16] <stwbay> Trudko: That is odd. Can I ask how you are measuring free space in windows 7?
[16:16] <Trudko> by windows tools
[16:16] <mattwj2002> cfhowlett: that documentation is way out of date
[16:17] <k1l_> Trudko: is this a wubi install?
[16:17] <Trudko> no
[16:17] <Trudko> live usb
[16:17] <stwbay> Trudko: What do the partitioning tools in Ubuntu say, and how much memory do you have?
[16:17] <Trudko> 8GB
[16:17] <k1l_> Trudko: is this a install into own partitions or into the windows partition?
[16:17] <Trudko> windows partition
[16:17] <mattwj2002> this is the bug I am running into
[16:18] <mattwj2002> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/832401
[16:18] <Trudko> i guess so at least
[16:18] <k1l_> Trudko: dont do that
[16:18] <Trudko> late for that
[16:18] <Trudko> well it does create own parition
[16:18] <k1l_> Trudko: shrink the windows partition and install ubuntu into own partitions
[16:19] <Trudko> k1l well I already installed it and let ubuntu installation decide how ti split partitions
[16:20] <stwbay> Trudko: why would it reduce your windows free space to zero? that would break your windows! If there's 62 free, it would be silly to allocate 62 to ubuntu
[16:20] <Trudko> stwbay: i agree but 40 GB isnt 62 there is plenty of space between
[16:21] <Trudko> I hoped for 50gb
[16:21] <knob> Hello guys
[16:21] <mattwj2002> fine screw it
[16:21] <mattwj2002> I am reinstalling :(
[16:21] <knob> I just installed a Ubuntu Server minimal.   It's a small VPS I "bought" .    I am trying to login for the first time, and I'm unable
[16:21] <knob> Is it    root     or    Root    ??
[16:21] <knob> I have tried about 14 combinations, and nothing works
[16:22] <OerHeks> knob, how would we know? there is no root account anyway
[16:22] <stwbay> Trudko: So 50GB - 8GB for swap = 42G
[16:22] <knob> What is the account?
[16:22] <Trudko> stwbay: 42GB != 39GB
[16:22] <OerHeks> knob contact your VPS vendor, there is no such standard password
[16:23] <knob> The setup gave me the password... yet not the login account name
[16:23] <SchrodingersScat> knob: did you try 'root'? some vps will use that, despite !root
[16:23] <stwbay> Trudko: It's close enough allowing for the fact that one might be 1024K per M and one might be 1000K per M, and in any case you can size it manually should you wish to
[16:24] <knob> SchrodingersScat, yes, I tried   root    and    Root
[16:24] <knob> I am doing this right now through VNX
[16:24] <knob> VNC
[16:24] <SchrodingersScat> knob: have you tried ssh?
[16:24] <stwbay> knob: Ubuntu has no root account by default, use your user account. Your vps provider should be able to tell you what it is.
[16:25] <stwbay> Ok pedants wil say it has but login is disabled .. /care :-)
[16:25] <knob> SchrodingersScat, haven't tried ssh.... going to do that now.
[16:26] <stwbay> Trudko: Ubuntu will be fully operational in under 16GB anyway
[16:27] <knob> SchrodingersScat, ssh... I get the login prompt... yet.... using root??
[16:27] <knob> root and Root... and the provided password does not login
[16:27] <knob> not sure wth is up
[16:27] <stwbay> knob: 3rd time now. Ubuntu has no default root password (root login is disabled). Ask your VPS provider what credentials to use
[16:27] <SchrodingersScat> knob: then if you don't have any user name with your provider, and there isn't setup instructions when you signed up, you probably need to contact your provider.
[16:28] <OerHeks> knob, your vendor knows
[16:28] <knob> Ok
[16:29] <SchrodingersScat> knob: could also look through the control panel and look for password options, might give you some clues
[16:29] <knob> Yeah... clicked on everything, yet... it's pretty baren
[16:29] <knob> I'm going to ask their support channel now
[16:31] <david1> I am having difficulties installing PyQt
[16:31] <david1> qhut
[16:32] <stwbay> david1: Interesting. Can you elaborate or do we guess?
[16:32] <david1> well. it kvetched about not knowing where sip is
[16:32] <david1> and i have no clue where to put sip
[16:33] <stwbay> david1: Do you have python sip installed?
[16:33] <david1> oh
[16:33] <david1> never mind
[16:34] <david1> sip claims to have installed properly
[16:35] <david1> however, pyqt gives an error conerning "make sure you have a working sip on your PATH"
[16:36] <frank_o> Hi, I need to monitor the highest amount of memory usage from two different operations. At http://askubuntu.com/questions/9642/how-can-i-monitor-the-memory-usage I found `watch -n 5 free -m`, but that won't tell me the highest peak during a given time. Any ideas?
[16:36] <vbgunz> any developers here whatsoever have mumble and working on pulseaudio? I have stumbled onto something from over a year now, I can temporarily clear up crackling on my microphone
[16:37] <jrib> vbgunz: i've had mumble working over pulse for as long as i can remember; nothing special to be done
[16:38] <vbgunz> jrib: congratulations, you don't have the problem I've been dealing with for over a year
[16:38] <jrib> vbgunz: i misunderstood.  Just ask your question.
[16:39] <SanoS> Hi guys, not sure if my client is working, is anyone available to help with a problem I've been having?
[16:39] <ikonia> what client ?
[16:40] <jrib> frank_o: there isn't really a good way, but you can get that information from "time" (don't use your shell's time, use /usr/bin/time and read its man page)
[16:41] <sl33k_> How do I find Users and Groups in xfce? Do I have to install the respective package?
[16:41] <frank_o> jrib: Interesting
[16:42] <SanoS> I'm using mirc
[16:42] <SanoS> looks good now
[16:42] <SanoS> the problem I'm having is actually with my 12.04 install though
[16:42] <SchrodingersScat> sl33k_: I'm in xubuntu 14.04, it's in settings manager, filter for users.
[16:43] <frank_o> jrib: That seems to be for specific processes. Is there a way to measure peak memory of the entire system?
[16:43] <jrib> frank_o: ah, hmmm... you probably can't use time for that
[16:43] <frank_o> nop
[16:43] <ikonia> sar ?
[16:43] <SanoS> ?
[16:44] <vbgunz> for the first time ever I cleared up my issue, it's really crazy, stumbled upon it by accident, wasn't really a question, asking if a dev maybe working on this, here and now can join me in mumble, not to troubleshoot but to talk about it
[16:44] <jrib> frank_o: yeah, sar is probably the best way as ikonia suggests
[16:45] <jrib> vbgunz: this channel isn't really for that.  Comment on the bug (bugs.ubuntu.com)
[16:45] <frank_o> Oh I see
[16:45] <frank_o> thanks
[16:45] <SchrodingersScat> vbgunz: might be better to file a bug report?  the chances of someone being here at this moment seems unlikely
[16:45] <vbgunz> I can't produce the bug, it produces itself randomly, people have been dealing with this forever, for over a year, I finally have crystal clear microphone
[16:46] <ikonia> vbgunz: so what do you want us to do about it ?
[16:46] <ikonia> logging a bug and updating it as you get info would be a logical way to catalog the issue
[16:46] <jrib> vbgunz: have you found the relevant bug for your issue?
[16:46] <vbgunz> I don't really know how to go about filing a bug report that gets any kind of traction whatsoever. I don't bother with bugs, this one is old as hell
[16:47] <ethan_> hello
[16:47] <ikonia> vbgunz: ok, so if you don't bother, why should anyone bother fixing it
[16:47] <jrib> vbgunz: if you don't bother with bugs, then I'm not sure what you expect to happen
[16:47] <frank_o> sar works great thanks guys
[16:47] <vbgunz> I sort of expect someone that cares about it more than I do and knows how to traverse the system better than I do, take control over it
[16:48] <jrib> vbgunz: that is what the bug tracker is for.
[16:48] <ikonia> vbgunz: then your expectation is not realistic
[16:48] <SanoS> I have a headless 12.04 install which I can X into with no trouble, problem is now when I hook it up to a monitor I can't get a prompt or get lightdm to start and I'm not sure why
[16:48] <SanoS> I just get this screen http://imgur.com/oTaA8OF
[16:48] <jrib> SanoS: what do you mean by "X into"?
[16:48] <SanoS> machine is running fine as a server which I intended, but now I need to copy a harddrive because it's failing and I'd like to do not via remote desktop
[16:48] <SanoS> XDMCP
[16:48] <SanoS> remote desktop
[16:48] <edude03> Hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu server 14.04 on a machine that had ubuntu server 13.10 on it but partitioning is failing
[16:49] <ikonia> certainlg a lot of errors/warnings on disks there
[16:49] <ethan_> I  am new to ubuntu and I had to do a reinstall so i used the dd commmand and now when i plug in my usb it does not show it on the file manager, but it shows it on gparted with no partitions. I was wondering how do i fix it
[16:49] <Theory``> Why does "sudo apt-get update" find nothing to update, but the software update center finds things to  update...do this two things look for different software?
[16:49] <SanoS> so when I get there I can type things, but it doesn't really do anything
[16:49] <SanoS> I just want to be able to get to a terminal so I can start lightDM
[16:49] <jrib> Theory``: update just updates your cache.  Do "dist-upgrade"
[16:49] <ikonia> ethan_: what has dd got to do with a a reinstall ?
[16:49] <Theory``> jrib, ok thanks
[16:50] <jrib> !apt-get | Theory``
[16:50] <edude03> I'm using the standard guided partitioning with lvm, when I look at the console it things the drive is in use
[16:50] <ethan_> i used the dd command to make the live usb
[16:50] <frank_o> jrib, ikonia, thanks again
[16:50] <ethan_> dd bs=4M if=/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdf && sync i used this command
[16:50] <edude03> partman /dev/sda2 is apparently in use by the system
[16:50] <ikonia> ethan_: it's probably mounted, unmount it
[16:50] <ethan_> i already did
[16:51] <ikonia> ethan_: then it's not in use
[16:51] <ethan_> i did then it shows the files and i can not write to it
[16:51] <ikonia> ethan_: if it shows the files, it's still mounted
[16:51] <ethan_> i can only view the files and nothing else
[16:51] <ethan_> typo
[16:51] <ikonia> ethan_: then it's still mounted.....
[16:52] <SanoS> yeah so those disk errors are the reason I need to get the data off that drive ASAP, I can still read the drive but it has occassionally been mounting as read only and I've been having trouble writing
[16:53] <SanoS> so I have a replacement, but I can't do anything on the machine locally
[16:53] <SanoS> which is a bit discouraging :/
[16:53] <ikonia> SanoS: I don't see how you trying to start X is anything to do with getting the data off it
[16:56] <motdd> NOW  C *  turkey-ireland football match http://www.showtv.com.tr/canli-yayin/showtv
[16:56] <ikonia> motdd: no spam please
[16:56] <DJones> motdd: Please don't spam
[16:56] <motdd> it not spam.
[16:57] <motdd> info..
[16:57] <ikonia> it is spam
[16:57] <motdd> no
[16:57] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with this channels topic
[16:57] <ikonia> so it's not welcome
[16:57] <motdd> :D
[16:57] <motdd> why
[16:57] <DJones> motdd: Is it an Ubuntu suppot question? If not its spam
[16:58] <SanoS> hi sorry, I got disconnected
[17:00] <SanoS> so any idea how I might go about getting a prompt?
[17:01] <ikonia> don't start X
[17:01] <ikonia> sort your disk errors out
[17:01] <ikonia> I don't know if there is a panic happening that's scrolling off screen
[17:01] <ikonia> those disk errors don't look healthy though
[17:02] <SanoS> yeah it's a storage drive that's the problem, so starting X is the reason that I'm not getting a prompt or lightdm on boot?
[17:02] <ikonia> it could just be panicing
[17:02] <ikonia> however starting X seems another thing to go wrong
[17:02] <stwbay> SanoS: Can you boot from  a liveCD, and then copy off the storage drive?
[17:02] <SanoS> because I can get a desktop if I use and X client, and I can access the machine that way
[17:02] <SanoS> it's just unrealiable to try and do a large file copy that way
[17:03] <ikonia> why do you need X ?
[17:03] <ikonia> get the data off it quick and fix the disk problems
[17:03] <SanoS> I have it because I was running it as a headless server and I wanted a way to access the machine and fiddle with my server settings and the like as well as install software
[17:03] <SanoS> I haven't tried a livecd, that is a good idea
[17:04] <bdchat> leaving
[17:04] <stwbay> SanoS: you can also just copy the data off with terminal, rsync etc
[17:04] <ikonia> SanoS: why are you installing software if your disk is screwed
[17:04] <ikonia> get the data off it
[17:04] <SanoS> that's what I'm trying to do
[17:04] <SanoS> the drive that is screwed is a separate media storage drive, my system drive is healthy
[17:05] <stwbay> it should boot then. are you sure it's the right way around?
[17:05] <SanoS> stwbay: I would do that but I can't get a terminal prompt when the machine starts
[17:06] <ikonia> SanoS: sounds like the kernel is panicing
[17:06] <SanoS> stbway: yeah I'm sure because all the servers are running and I can get a remote desktop by using X from another computer
[17:06] <ikonia> SanoS: boot into single user mode - get your data off, fix the problem
[17:06] <stwbay> SanoS: Well i think the "easiest" but not necessarily the "best" way, would be to boot a liveCD and copy, or just take the drive out physically
[17:06] <shunya_chakra> Is there any option to set new color to panel icons... icons come's at right side of panel
[17:06] <SanoS> I just can't get a terminal or lightDM on the local computer
[17:06] <ikonia> can you connect via ssh ?
[17:06] <SanoS> yup
[17:07] <SanoS> so just ssh and then do the copy there you figure?
[17:07] <ikonia> SanoS: checking the logs for what's going on seems a good start
[17:07] <ikonia> but I wouldl focus on backing up that disks data ASAP
[17:07] <ikonia> rather than messing around with X11
[17:08] <SanoS> oh for sure, I just want to be able to get a terminal/lightdm on the local machine to do it, maybe I'll try the livecd
[17:08] <SanoS> I think it's because I did something to make it headless and now I can't figure out how to go back to getting things to start at boot
[17:09] <ikonia> why do you need X to back it up ?
[17:09] <ikonia> it's just another thing to go wrong
[17:09] <SanoS> I'm not sure I understand
[17:10] <SanoS> you mean why not just use SSH and then do the backup?
[17:10] <ikonia> correct
[17:10] <ikonia> why the desire for X11 on the console
[17:10] <SanoS> I can certainly give that a shot
[17:11] <stwbay> SSH+rsync etc would indeed be the 'best' solution but requires you to actually know how to use the terminal, which I assumed you were having trouble with, hence suggested a livecd, which requries less technical expertise
[17:11] <edude03> hmm I figured it  out it seems - my drive mounts automatically as /media for some reason? umount /media fixed that
[17:11] <edude03> secondly there is some issue with EFIBoot
[17:11] <edude03> so I booted the install in legacy mode
[17:13] <SanoS> oh no, I'm ok to use the terminal, I actually originally wanted to get the GUI back because I want to run steam and use that new steam mirroring feature
[17:13] <SanoS> but that's a problem for another time
[17:13] <SanoS> first the hard disk that is failing
[17:13] <bekks> IF the harddisk is failing, replace it.
[17:13] <SanoS> I'm just surprised that I don't even get a prompt on the machine and I have no idea why
[17:13] <bekks> Login using ssh and check the logs.
[17:14] <arek> hey all - i just looking for FAST linux distro for 2gb ram and athlon 5200+ - any ideas? i need qnapi/gnapi (subtitles downloader) and transmission.
[17:14] <bekks> arek: Which answer besides "Ubuntu" do you expect in an Ubuntu channel?
[17:15] <shunya_chakra> in ubuntu 14.04 somehow colors of my pics shows in greenish automatically
[17:15] <k1l> arek: try lubuntu
[17:15] <k1l> arek: or another slim desktop like the minimalistic ones
[17:15] <stwbay> 2gb is bordering on power user ;-)
[17:15] <user101> hi, I'm trying to install fglrx and after installing " fglrx" and  "fglrx-amdcccle", the aticonfig command doesn't work eve though I installed fglrx. Any ideas?
[17:16] <k1l> user101: rebooted?
[17:19] <SanoS> bekks: which logs would you suggest I check
[17:19] <SanoS> ?
[17:19] <loa> how i can limit io hungry tasks on ubuntu?
[17:20] <loa> for example backups
[17:20] <gre-> hello
[17:20] <gre-> i have an asus X 750 LB and on linux i have no touchpad detected and no FN keys detected as well
[17:20] <gre-> anyone met this issue?
[17:21] <Beldar> gre-, Were they working in the live environment?
[17:22] <bekks> SanoS: "all"?
[17:22] <Beldar> the touchpad at least you must have tried gre-
[17:23] <shunya_chakra> is there any option to change size of panel icon
[17:23] <Beldar> shunya_chakra, Not in a gui.
[17:23] <gre-> Beldar: they're working during a win install, thats all
[17:23] <gre-> even on win7
[17:24] <gre-> but on linux no...
[17:24] <stwbay> shunya_chakra: which icons?
[17:24] <shunya_chakra> Ok Beldar, thanks.
[17:24] <shunya_chakra> stwbay, battery icon, wif-fi, sound icon
[17:25] <stwbay> shunya_chakra: Ah ok. indicator  icons.
[17:25] <Beldar> gre-, Sure, just remember the windows info is of no use generally, not sure where to go from here myself.
[17:26] <shunya_chakra> stwbay, yup, I want when i'm connected to wi-fi or battery is on my icon will turn into blue color
[17:26] <Beldar> THe OS are just so different is all gre-
[17:26] <SanoS> I'm just not sure what I'm looking for
[17:26] <gre-> I think my asus X 750 isn't compatble with any distros actually
[17:26] <gre-> and Im so sad for that
[17:26] <k1l> gre-: make your manufacturerer make drivers for linux.
[17:27] <gre-> Asus didn't and probably won't
[17:27] <gre-> They did one for win, ATK package
[17:27] <gre-> no more
[17:27] <k1l> so you see where the problem is located
[17:28] <k1l> you could try to look up the internet for your precise hardware and see if someone did have some experience in getting that to work
[17:28] <[[asimov]]> !seen JediMaster
[17:29] <Threz_> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask... but does anyone know of a headless/server/web-based/whatever solution to sync music to an android device from a headless Ubuntu server?
[17:29] <franco> ciao
[17:29] <franco> !list
[17:30] <stwbay> gre-: There is a german website i dont want to link here that sells your exact model with linux pre installed (or so their shopping cart says). Mint 16.
[17:30] <gre-> stwbay: Link me it in msg pls
[17:30] <[[asimov]]> stwbay: Why not link here?
[17:30] <gre-> It can help me
[17:30] <stwbay> gre-: So many a different ubuntu version might work?
[17:31] <gre-> Possible, i only tested with ubuntu 12.04
[17:31] <stwbay> yea sure how do i PM in the web client?!
[17:31] <gre-> i also read kernel 3.0 should work, but omg 3.0...
[17:31] <gre-> its so old
[17:31] <[[asimov]]> gre-: forward link
[17:32] <stwbay> did that work?
[17:32] <gre-> lemme see
[17:33] <stwbay> gre-: zog this. this is the link. https://www.ixsoft.com/Hardware/Notebooks/44cm-173/ASTY003HHW-Asus-X750LB-Linux-Notebook-44cm173-Intel-i5-4200U-4.-Gen.-Nvidia-GT740M-4GB-RAM500GB-HDD.html
[17:34] <[[asimov]]> stwbay: Is that a german website?
[17:34] <gre-> i have exactly this issue : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/117940/touchpad-not-recognized-on-linux-asus-r751lb
[17:34] <stwbay> gre-:  so they reckon it works with linux so maybe you just need to use Trusty instead of Precise
[17:34] <gre-> i tested with trusty
[17:34] <gre-> it didnt work
[17:36] <stwbay> gre-: Perhaps chrome OS trackpad driver works with it? it looks simialr to their chromebook trackpads: no visible buttons
[17:37] <stwbay> gre-: There's a hack somewhere to load that driver for ubuntu (for ubuntu chromebooks)
[17:39] <gre-> stwbay: to load atk package ? touchpad driver?
[17:41] <gre-> https://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg4333886.html
[17:41] <gre-> im not alone
[17:41] <gre-> but this doesn't help
[17:53] <rogo> hi. How can I install missing dependancies?  http://paste.org/72580
[17:53] <bobo69> .
[17:54] <ianorlin> rogo I can't see your paste really
[17:54] <ianorlin> what package are you trying to install?
[17:54] <rogo> weird. could you try http://goo.gl/rCJxgi ?
[17:54] <rogo> I try to install a scanner
[17:55] <larko> hello
[17:55] <ianorlin> yes secondone works but why are you building an rpm package?
[17:55] <ianorlin> what kind of printer?
[17:56] <k1l> !paste | rogo
[17:56] <k1l> rogo: rpmbuild? what software is that
[17:57] <rogo> Here is the paste again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7516440/
[17:57] <gre-> is there a way to add an asus repo ? i can't find this ppa
[17:57] <gareim> rogo: ubuntu uses .deb packages, not .rpm, so I think you're going about this the wrong way
[17:57] <gre-> id like to try it to see if it can detect my hardwares
[17:57] <gre-> (touchpad, fn keys etc.)
[17:58] <rogo> rpmbuild is software advised in the Readme of the installation precedure.
[17:58] <gareim> rogo: Maybe you're misunderstanding the readme, since there's no way Ubuntu could install a .rpm
[17:58] <rogo> I couldn't find a fitting deb file for that.
[17:58] <ianorlin> maybe because the instructions aren't written for ubuntu
[17:58] <rogo> OK, no rpm then.
[17:59] <rogo> I want to install it on an Intel 64 :  http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=EN&CN2=&DSCMI=27729&DSCCHK=dad2cb5b45435c09005b7aca852ad8acb85329f5
[17:59] <rogo> should I try  iscan_2.29.3-1~usb0.1.ltdl7_amd64.deb ?
[17:59] <gareim> rogo: that sounds much more likely to workk
[18:00] <rogo> gareim: ok. I try that one.
[18:00] <k1l> .deb is right
[18:02] <rogo> "cannot find scanner. Check status"... ---> I restart now.
[18:02] <louisDZ> hi
[18:02] <louisDZ> Is that possbile to use Microsoft Office with ubuntu?
[18:03] <bobo69> louisDZ: you can run libreoffice as a replacment. Or run MS Office in windows under linux with virtualbox
[18:03] <k1l> !wine | louisDZ
[18:03] <stwbay> louisDZ: Some versions run under wine, office365 cloud runs (of course), libreoffice opens some MSOffice files
[18:04] <bobo69> I would not try to wine ms office. Thats just asking for pain.
[18:04] <stwbay> bobo69: it does work well with some versions
[18:04] <louisDZ> ok
[18:05] <louisDZ> i tried with PlayOnLinux
[18:05] <stwbay> louisDZ: That's a pre-configured wine setup
[18:05] <louisDZ> yes
[18:06] <no1[away]> louisDZ: are you forced to use it? If you are not forced to used it, better not use it at all
[18:06] <louisDZ> Yes 'im forced to use it
[18:06] <louisDZ> for work
[18:06] <louisDZ> but i only run ubuntu
[18:06] <stwbay> what specificalyl are you using in office?
[18:06]  * no1[away] dreams of a world where Office is just in IT History Books
[18:07] <louisDZ> I'm doing pallning with exel
[18:07] <louisDZ> sorry
[18:07] <louisDZ> *planning
[18:07] <stwbay> louisDZ: office365 cant handle it?
[18:07] <no1[away]> so you need a spreadsheet or you need excel?
[18:07] <k1l> louisDZ: did you try libre calc so far?
[18:07] <louisDZ> i need exel
[18:08] <k1l> libre calc is like 99,9% the same
[18:08] <louisDZ> ok
[18:08] <louisDZ> but i need to send thems to people
[18:08] <stwbay> for simple spreadsheets, libre will indeed work for excel. if he's using excel apps, that wont work
[18:09] <no1[away]> people.. the source of any problem
[18:09] <louisDZ> yep^
[18:09] <louisDZ> i send my planning to my boss , i must read it
[18:09] <ActionA> holstein: thanks for that tip, I found that scp was stalling, led me to check mtu, needed to be set to 1492 rather than 1500.  Thanks again
[18:09] <stwbay> although i think conditional formatting is currently broken in libre
[18:09] <no1[away]> they will have a different version of excel and will blame you
[18:10] <louisDZ> i've got a .iso of office 2010
[18:10] <louisDZ> i could try to run it with wine?
[18:10] <no1[away]> mount it
[18:10] <louisDZ> ok
[18:10] <quickezed> Is it possible to tell how much longer dd will run for? I'm currently zeroing a 1TB disk and left the block size at the default. It's been running for almost 20 hours now.
[18:11] <louisDZ> wich soft could i use to mount it?
[18:11] <stwbay> quickezed: you might be able to look at your drive's performance and compute an approximation
[18:11] <no1[away]> sudo mount -o loop blabla.iso /path/to/dir/I/want
[18:11] <quickezed> stwbay: How would I go about doing that?
[18:11] <no1[away]> ^mounting iso
[18:12] <stwbay> quickezed: maufacturer's info on drive speed. you proably dont want to benchmark it while it's doing DD ;-)
[18:12] <story> How do I get a network connection in chroot?
[18:12] <rogo> @gareim: Hi. I'm back. No scan program accepts the scanner. One of the ink patterns is empty. Do they need to be filled enough to scan??
[18:12] <louisDZ> OK THANKS
[18:12] <quickezed> stwbay: haha no, certainly not. ok well I'll let it run. I was thinking about killing the process and using shred. Apparently it is a lot faster.
[18:13] <quickezed> I think I'll just let it run and be patient.
[18:13] <gareim> rogo: is the scanner even detected by the OS?
[18:13] <bobo69> story:  are you using wifi or wired?
[18:13] <story> wifi
[18:13] <rogo> gareim: how can I check that?
[18:13] <bobo69> story: can you get into X windows?
[18:13] <stwbay> quickezed: not half as quick as a hammer ... are you wiping for resale or disposal?
[18:13] <rogo> gareim: it's usb.
[18:13] <story> bobo69, is there a hack for that?
[18:13] <bobo69> story: hack for what?
[18:14] <no1[away]> louisDZ: http://www.winehq.org/  <-- here there is a database of apps that run under wine, how they run, and some hack to make them run
[18:14] <gareim> rogo: you mentioned ink, so I assume its a printer + scanner?
[18:14] <story> going from chroot into X, maybe I misunderstand?
[18:14] <quickezed> stwbay: haha if only I was disposing. I'm repurposing the disk for using it as an encrypted volume and wanted to zero it out prior to its new life.
[18:14] <rogo> gareim: yes: printer+scanner in one
[18:15] <bobo69> story not really a hack, but if your chroot has X installed you can just sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start
[18:15] <rogo> maybe I should try this manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[18:15] <bobo69> then setup with network manager as usual. If not, I really dont know command line wifi well enough to help
[18:15] <story> oh, it's livecd image, I've extracted, mounted and chrooted
[18:15] <gareim> rogo: okay, so does the printer show up if you try to print something? if it doesnt then you at least know the drivers not working. if it does, maybe the printer-side is fine, but the scanner-side isnt. or you're doing something wrong
[18:15] <Beldar> bobo69, A chroot is in root and that is very bad advice
[18:16] <bobo69> ??
[18:16] <Beldar> bobo69, And that means even les.
[18:16] <Beldar> less
[18:16] <story> I'm trying to do updates, add a few apps, then put it back to dvd
[18:16] <rogo> gareim: i use an other working printer. the printer driver of my printerscanner is not installed.
[18:17] <bobo69> story: oh sorry I didnt understand what you meant
[18:17] <Beldar> story, plug in the ether not.
[18:17] <Beldar> ethernet
[18:17] <story> I don't have ethernet
[18:17] <gareim> rogo: not sure how to help you, it's kind of hard doing this over the internet. but if I remember right, lots of printer+scanners require there to be enough ink inside for the scanner to work because the companies like to extort their customers.
[18:17] <__luke__> hi
[18:18] <story> I have wifi!
[18:18] <__luke__> i have problem with my HP N54L Microserver. I cant shutdown it with shutdown -h now or /sbin/halt
[18:18] <story> I tried starting /etc/init.d/lightdm start, it was unable to do that.
[18:18] <__luke__> it stays powered on, but i cant reach the server with ssh too in this status
[18:18] <__luke__> anyone know how to debug it? what log shows potentially any message
[18:19] <ianorlin> story ask to use a friend with ethernet ?
[18:19] <Beldar> story, man chroot in the cli
[18:19] <story> ianorlin, I could, but is it possible with wifi?
[18:20] <ianorlin> sometimes but my current laptops is just easiest if I have ethernet somewhere
[18:20] <story> Just to reiterate, I'm trying to create a network connection in chroot to update the software on a extracted livecd
[18:21] <bobo69> story: if you cant get into X you will have to do it the long and painful way. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[18:21] <bobo69> should work, but I've had troubles with command line wifi setup before
[18:22] <story> oh, I've connected that way before, yeah it's a pain, i have a password, but you think that's all I have to do?
[18:22] <Bashing-om> quickezed: Hey, do: -> man dd <- , there are directions on how to get the dd status from another opened terminal.
[18:22] <quickezed> Bashing-om: great, thanks.
[18:22] <bobo69> do you need it to be persistant when rebooting on that dvd?
[18:23] <SchrodingersScat> sudo kill -USR1 `pidof dd` #?
[18:23] <story> bobo69, No persistance.  The purpose is really to be on DVD only.
[18:25] <BAMbanda> I have a public ssh key that was generated on my friends server, he also gave me the password
[18:25] <BAMbanda> but when I try to ssh into the server, I get a Permission denied (publikey) error
[18:25] <BAMbanda> it doesn't even prompt me for the password
[18:25] <MIke11123> Howdy,  I'm having a problem getting services started.  Initial is saying that com.ubuntu.Upstart doesn't exist
[18:26] <no1[away]> BAMbanda: YOUR public key should be on that server, not the remote key on yours
[18:26] <BAMbanda> no1[away] ahhh ok
[18:27] <MIke11123> I can't even get to the login.
[18:28] <Beldar> MIke11123, Any info here you have left out? A cause and effect, fresh install, was or was not working....etc
[18:28] <Beldar> "I removed this"
[18:29] <MIke11123> Dbus is also saying that it can't own services,  dbus  1.6, was working before dbus update
[18:29] <Beldar> MIke11123, update how?
[18:30] <MIke11123> I compiled and installed dbus1.6 as a prerequisite for another program
[18:31] <_Rocky_> I get this error in syslog "Could not launch application 'gdu-notificatoin-daemon.desktop': Unable to start application: Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/gnome-disk-utility/gdu-notification-daemon" (No such file or directory). As it says there isn't even a folder called /usr/lib/gnome-disk-utility. But 'apt-get install gnome-disk-utility tells' me that it is already installed. I am unsure what that file is for and how to
[18:31] <_Rocky_> resolve this error. Thanks in advance for your ideas.
[18:32] <MIke11123> I have a feeling that dbus isn't built properly but can't find anything about how it is originally configured
[18:33] <Beldar> MIke11123, That may be, the issue though are details for the channel to help, when you compile you have hit the desert alone so to speak.
[18:34] <MIke11123> Yeah... and I'm running out of water too, lol.  If I could just find the original configure settings I could probably fix this..  reinstalling in not really an option at the moment.
[18:35] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: What program are you actually trying to install?
[18:35] <daftykins> i'm pretty sure we don't support manual compilation
[18:36] <MIke11123> Was trying to get ndiswrapper installed, using BT to send the files over from my phone.  My WiFi dongle doesn't have linux drivers so I needed to use the windows ones.
[18:37] <Beldar> MIke11123, THis an android phone? what ubuntu release?
[18:37] <no1[away]> MIke11123: try uninstalling the compiled dbus and installing the official dbus package (that is >1.6 on 14.04 by the way)
[18:38] <MIke11123> Will the deb file be on the machine already?  I won't have d/l it since install
[18:38] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: ndiswrapper is packaged for Ubuntu, though I'd almost never recommend using it. What wifi dongle are you using, and why a dongle rather than an internal card?
[18:39] <no1[away]> MIke11123: maybe, if it's still on the machine should be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[18:39] <MIke11123> Linkage AE3200.  I usually use an Ethernet cable, but where I'm at doesn't have wired internet,  had the dongle already
[18:41] <MIke11123> Hmm... only have libdbus in the archive, I can give it a try
[18:42] <electrode> test
[18:45] <MIke11123> Lol, that caused a lethal panic.  I'm just gunna call this busted.  Going to have to find a way to get a live CD on my thumb development somehow....
[18:46] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: Compiling and installing such a basic low level part of the OS outside of the package manager was not a good idea, and was not needed for what you're trying to do either. With enough information about how you compiled/installed dbus we may be able to undo it but a re-install is likely easier.
[18:46] <MIke11123> Grrr, this phone loves to replace words....  kernal panic, thumb drive
[18:47]  * no1[away] liked "lethal panic"
[18:47] <MIke11123> Jordan, yeah, I'm just going to have to find a public computer somewhere and toss the live CD on a stick
[18:48] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: Also, I couldn't find any "linkage ae3200" wireless dongle.
[18:49] <no1[away]> MIke11123: is it an android device? there is an app for booting ISOs like they where on a USB stick
[18:49] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: Do you have the iso on the hard drive?
[18:49] <MIke11123> Linksys
[18:50] <MIke11123> No1, I'm on my phone, but the problem machine is a desktop.
[18:50] <pikachuza> hey all anyone here worked with cgroups on ubuntu?
[18:50] <parzzix> Xchat or Quassel?
[18:50] <MIke11123> Jordan, no, but it won't mount the phone anyways
[18:52] <MIke11123> I have the iso on the phone, need it on my USB drive
[18:52] <pngo>  when I try to access device/phone via ssh I get 'Permission denied (publickey).' but ssh works if I ssh from phone to computer? any ideas?
[18:55] <no1[away]> pngo: looks like the phone is expecting a publickey authentication (or you are trying to from the client)
[18:58] <kierkegaardsho> Hi, I have a very unstable wifi connection using 12.04. It was previously good, and after much Googling, I've come to think that it might be a good idea for me to install a wifi backport. However, this is something that I've never done before, and I really don't want to just go compiling backports without any real clue what I'm doing. Can anyone confirm that I'm not about to do something really, really stupid?
[18:59] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: Nothing for "linksys ae3200" either. There is a "linksys e3200" but it's a router, not a dongle.
 I try to connect from terminal
[19:00] <MIke11123> Sry, try 2600,
[19:01] <no1[away]> pngo: what is the ssh server listening on the phone? is it configured to accept connections without key?
[19:01] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: Also a router.
[19:02] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: This might be why you thought your dongle didn't have native drivers.
[19:02] <pngo> yes
[19:02] <MIke11123> Sry again, small numbers, 2500, USB adapter
 im using ubuntu touch. ssh was working before I upgraded
[19:04] <no1[away]> pngo: try ssh from phone to phone, just to check is working fine
[19:05] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: "linksys e2500" is *also a router*. Use "lsusb" to get the name and chipset of your dongle.
 same error msg
 must be a bug
[19:06] <no1[away]> pngo: so the server is requiring authentication by key. I'm upgrading ubuntu touch just now, to check if I got the same problem
[19:06] <MIke11123> Lol, Linkage AE2500 802.11abgn Wireless Adapter (Broadcom BCM43236)
[19:07] <MIke11123> Grrrr., Linksys
[19:10] <mortal1_> howdy, does anyone here use the 'full disk encryption' with ubuntu?
[19:10] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: If its revision is >= rev3 then it has native drivers.
[19:10] <Jordan_U> mortal1_: Try asking your actual question.
[19:10] <mortal1_> I need to see an example /etc/cryptab
[19:10] <mortal1_> or however it's called
[19:11] <OneKorea> Hi. After I install Disconnect firefox extensions and try to restart firefox - getting hard lock up (need hard reset). Then I tried chromium, and same thing happens when I install pepper-flash.
[19:11] <OneKorea> Can anything be concluded from this?
 terminal in new ver is black (can not see txt). to fix it you must go to settings and change font size and than go back and than you will see fonts in terminal. I have nexus 4
[19:11] <OneKorea> xubuntu LTS
[19:11] <Jordan_U> mortal1_: What problem are you having?
[19:11] <MIke11123> N idea what revision it is....
[19:11] <mortal1_> Jordan_U: I installed ubuntu over an existing full disk encryption
[19:12] <no1[away]> pngo: nexus4 here too. still downloading the update 75%
[19:12] <mortal1_> I was able to reuse my / dir
[19:12] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: What is the USB device ID (hopefully listed by lsusb)?
[19:12] <mortal1_> i.e. I have /boot / formatted, and /home reused
[19:12] <MIke11123> 13b1:003a
[19:13] <mortal1_> however I can't boot and I suspect it's a faulty /etc/cryptab that's not unlocking the encryption
[19:13] <Beldar> OneKorea, You checked with htop the hardware usage? Could you be hitting swap?
[19:15] <OneKorea> Beldar, system has something like 850mb RAM. I guess it should be enough. Installation was all default. Sux that this kind of stuff is hard to debug
[19:15] <pngo> exit
[19:16] <Beldar> OneKorea, My guess is your swapping, you can set the swappiness lower, it will seem like a freeze when this happens on a standard spinning HD.
[19:17] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: That ID isn't listed at all at http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211 . I'm not sure what to make of that.
[19:17] <Beldar> OneKorea, That is enough if your aware of that amounts limitations, I would be running lubuntu myself with that amount
[19:17] <MIke11123> Welcome to my weekend Jordan, lol
[19:17] <OneKorea> Worth mentioning I'm getting graphich corruption just before lock up
[19:18] <Beldar> OneKorea, http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[19:18] <Beldar> I would start with lowering the swap
[19:18] <OneKorea> like, some pattern gets rendered over the screen and it becomes totally unresponsive, can't switch tty, reisub (dunno if thats even configred these days)
[19:19] <no1[away]> MIke11123, Jordan_U : brcmfmac, isn't it BCM43236 ?
[19:19] <OneKorea> ok I will give it a shot with swap coz I really have no other idea
[19:19] <Beldar> OneKorea, REISUB works yes
[19:19] <OneKorea> except some hardware failurish
[19:19] <no1[away]> MIke11123, Jordan_U: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:20] <Beldar> OneKorea, I use a conky to watch memory and cpu.
[19:21] <OneKorea> yep i know conky, great stuff
[19:23] <Jordan_U> MIke11123: Is buying another card (preferably internal) an option?
[19:24] <no1[away]> pngo: updated Ubuntu Touch, ssh is working
[19:26] <MIke11123> Not for another 2 weeks.  I installed the brcmfmac module.  No errors thrown.  Looking at syslog, it is failing to aquire org.freedesktop.ModemManager
[19:27] <Beldar> no1[away], Is your issue in a touch install?
[19:27] <no1[away]> pngo: check your /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the phone
[19:27] <no1[away]> Beldar: pngo have the issue, the ssh server requires key authentication
[19:28] <no1[away]> Beldar: on my phone it works
[19:28] <Beldar> no1[away], Yeah just looked back, thanks, nothing I know. ;)
[19:28] <hexacode> anyone know how i can tell putty to supply a passqword?
[19:28] <Beldar> no1[away], Might be worth asking in #ubuntu-touch
[19:28] <MIke11123> Ok, something new.  Error accessing system permissions: Error initializing authority: error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1,  it's a timeout issue
[19:30] <hexacode> hey you guys im using putty private public rsa keypairs, but i think my ssh server also is set to accept a password as well...in my auth.log on the server, i get this message   requirement "user in group nopasswdlogin" not met by [user_trying_to_login]
[19:30] <bekks> hexacode: You get that message when doing what?
[19:30] <hexacode> anyone know how to tell putty to supply a passwrd as well
[19:30] <hexacode> putty login
[19:31] <hexacode> actually...thats in my auth.log file
[19:31] <hexacode> the error from putty is the following
[19:31] <julian-delphiki> this doesn't sound like a linux or ubuntu problem
[19:31] <julian-delphiki> as its putty you're having issues with
[19:31] <hexacode> when i connect says "using username myname"    then after a bit, the command prompt says Server refused our key
[19:32] <bekks> hexacode: Is your ubuntu question this one?: "how do I ensure that I disabled password login?"
[19:32] <hexacode> guess i can do that. sorry
[19:32] <bekks> hexacode: then configure your server to use the correct key.
[19:34] <user101> i'm trying to install fglrx but I need to check that I have glibc 2.2+ {AND} either XFree86-4.3.0 {OR} XOrg 6.8.x+
[19:34] <user101> i'm trying to install fglrx but I need to check that I have glibc 2.2+ {AND} either XFree86-4.3.0 {OR} XOrg 6.8.x+/
[19:34] <user101> srry
[19:34] <bekks> user101: and?
[19:34] <user101> how do I check for them?
[19:35] <bekks> user101: search for them in your package manager, e.g.
[19:35] <bekks> !ati | user101
[19:35] <shape> user101: when you install it it should pull them as dependencies. But you don't need fglrx, the open source ati works fine. Why are you installing fglrx
[19:36] <user101> shape, i want to run folding@home, and I read somewhere that I need the proprietary driver
[19:37] <shape> user101: what is folding@home
[19:38] <lain_> I have a quick question
[19:38] <lain_> I just started programming
[19:38] <lain_> and all my friends tell me to switch to linux
[19:38] <lain_> why?
[19:38] <MIke11123> Shape, allows you to help with protein folding computations during computer idle periods
[19:38] <lain_> how is it going to help me?
[19:39] <shape> user101: nvm, I checked on wiki. Try with the opensource drivers first. After that you can install the proprietary ones and see if it works
[19:40] <user101> shape, ok, sounds good. i've had problems with it before in other distros so I thought i'd install fglrx on the distro i'm using now
[19:40] <cuddylier> Is it possible to get anymore than 268MB/s with 4 enterprise hard drives on a hardware raid controller? Is there any specific HDDs you know that would do more than 111MB/s individually?
[19:40] <user101> lain_, its easier to get it set up for programming, IMHO
[19:41] <musca> lain_:  you will find an open community and projects that welcome your help
[19:41] <user101> lain_, and there are a few languages already part of the distribution so you can get up a running quickly
[19:42] <shape> user101: and to check package version dpkg -l | grep glibc for example
[19:43] <Lannister> Is there a way to set chmod 755 for /opt/lampp/htdocs and all of its content including subfolders and files?
[19:43] <vlt> Lannister: -R
[19:43] <bekks> Lannister: You dont want to set execution permissions on html files.
[19:44] <Beldar> cuddylier, SSD probably
[19:44] <bekks> Lannister: They are text files, and never get executed, but they get read only.
[19:44] <Lannister> I just want to be able to move items in that htdocs folder without using the command line
[19:44] <user101> shape, nope, that won't work. I think it is using something like eglibc
[19:44] <cuddylier> Beldar: I'm asking apart from a DDOS or even SSD cache
[19:44] <cuddylier> I mean HDD rather than DDOS
[19:44] <Lannister> Ill have to use sudo every time I want to move my files in that folder
[19:44] <bprompt> Lannister:    as suggested, you can always use the -R switch for chmod to make it recursive
[19:45] <bekks> Lannister: Yes, thats intended.
[19:45] <bekks> Lannister: And setting 755 will not change that.
[19:45] <shape> lain_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+is+linux+good+for+programming
[19:45] <Lannister> so sudo chmod -R 75 /opt/lampp/htdocs   ?
[19:46] <bekks> Lannister: No. 755 will not change the need of sudo.
[19:46] <sl33k_> I have this long present problem of read only flash drive. How do I copy anything into it?
[19:46] <Lannister> so what is the right number for chmod??
[19:46] <sl33k_> sl33k@sl33k-laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/external
[19:46] <sl33k_> mount: block device /dev/sdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[19:46] <sl33k_> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:46] <sl33k_> sl33k@sl33k-laptop:~$
[19:46] <Lannister> bekks: so whats the right number for chmod?
[19:46] <bekks> Lannister: Again: chmod will not change the need of sudo. You have to change the owner, not the permissions.
[19:47] <Lannister> so sudo chown -R 755
[19:47] <bekks> sl33k_: "block device /dev/sdc is write-protected". Remove the write protection.
[19:47] <bekks> Lannister: No.
[19:47] <bekks> Lannister: Again: hmod will not change the need of sudo. You have to change the owner, not the permissions.
[19:47] <bekks> *chmod
[19:48] <Jiggy> Hi. I encounter a strange behaviour with Ubuntu 14.04, Apache 2.4.7 and SSH. Virtual host is configured below user directory (/home/jigal/public/<<domain>>/public/) and completely works as long as this user has an active SSH session. As soon as I logout on SSH Apache returns a 403 and in the error.log appear entries like:
[19:48] <Jiggy> [Sat May 24 13:10:02.389681 2014] [core:error] [pid 2854] (13)Permission denied: [client 83.160.72.49:57359] AH00035: access to /test.php denied (filesystem path '/home/jigal/public') because search permissions are missing on a component of the path
[19:48] <Jiggy> Logging in makes everything work again.
[19:48] <bekks> Lannister: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:48] <Lannister> bekks: chown changes the owner doesn't it???
[19:48] <bekks> Lannister: chown changes the owner, but the syntax is different from chmod.
[19:49] <bekks> Jiggy: Are you using an encrypted home?
[19:49] <sl33k_> I used this command as I skimmed from askubuntu. it was still a no go
[19:49] <sl33k_> sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdc
[19:49] <sl33k_> /dev/sdc:
[19:49] <sl33k_>  setting readonly to 0 (off)
[19:49] <_simple_chris_> aloha. need some help, tried to intall ubuntu 12.04, everything was fine except that my usb-wlan adapter was not working. downloaded ndiswrapper with other needed packages, then it worked. after that i agreed to all updates ubuntu wanted to make. during that, black screen/white font with something like "kernel NULL"... . reboot two times, now ndiswrapper is not installed anymore. when trying to install again, "kernel source for
[19:49] <bekks> sl33k_: The command will not change the write protection (like the write protection switch on the device).
[19:50] <Jiggy> bekks: there is an .ecryptfs directory in /home.
[19:50] <bekks> Jiggy: So you are using an encrypted home and the describebd behaviour is intended.
[19:51] <usaghru> hi
[19:52] <Jiggy> bekks: great! I'll move stuff to /var/www/* then. It's my first attempt at setting up a VPS, so I followed a tutorial. I couldn't find the relationship between the SSH session and this behaviour. Thanks for your help.
[19:53] <Talryn_> What do you need to do on 14.04 to get open-vm-tools installed and have the vmhgfs and other modules available?  It is for an Ubuntu guest on VMware Fusion.  If I install open-vm-tools and open-vm-tools-desktop, I still do not have vmhgfs.  I had it working before I upgraded but it seems that open-vm-tools has changed now.
[19:53] <sl33k_> bekks: So I think I change permission on the mount point? Is this safe? -> sudo chmod -R 777 /media/external
[19:53] <bekks> sl33k_: When using 777 to get things working it is obvious that you doing it wrong.
[19:54] <usaghru> hi every one here
[19:54] <usaghru> some one explain me how to use this application please
[19:55] <sl33k_> bekks: what workaround could I fall back on as a new/intermediate user?
[19:56] <bekks> sl33k_: Tell us what you are trying to achieve actually - instead of killing that little bird with a nuke.
[19:56] <Beldar> usaghru, What application?
[19:56] <Jeeves_Moss> is anyone here good with 3G sticks?  I need to get my embedded project working.
[19:56] <rustyrazorblade> i’ve got 3x3TB drives i’m setting up in an ubuntu 13.04 box that’s a media server.  trying to decide between btrfs & zfs.  is there any strong reason to use one over the other?
[19:57] <bekks> Jeeves_Moss: We are professional for meta questions. Why dont you ask your actual question instead? :)
[19:57] <bekks> !raring | rustyrazorblade
[19:57] <khax> hi guys
[19:57] <khax> !eol
[19:57] <Beldar> rustyrazorblade, That would be an opinion, this is support.
[19:57] <Lannister> bekks: chown -r Lannister /opt/lampp/htdocs/   ??
[19:57] <bekks> rustyrazorblade: Upgrade to a supported release, then ask again please.
[19:57] <Jeeves_Moss> bekks, sure, I have a BeagleBone Black and a 3G shield.  I can get wvdial to work, but I can't get an IP address.
[19:58] <bekks> Lannister: thats a correct syntax for chown
[19:58] <sl33k_> bekks: Just wanted to copy some files to my kingston usb stick. Turned out it was not auto mounted. Then mounted physically after taking some advice from a fellow channel member. Ended up with an empty stick with read only permission.
[19:59] <icsu> hello
[19:59] <bekks> sl33k_: so mount it and own the mount to the user, whicch can be done without chmod at all.
[19:59] <sl33k_> bekks: also used this command: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512
[19:59] <bekks> !mount | sl33k_
[19:59] <Lannister> bekks: I'm not sure what my username is. is it what is shown on ubuntu login page or the one writen right beside command line??
[19:59] <bekks> sl33k_: you used that command for destroying all data on it.
[20:00] <bekks> Lannister: type: "id" without ""
[20:00] <icsu> does someone know if I encrypt my harddrive it makes it more secure against attack from online? Or is it only more secure if it get stolen irl?
[20:00] <bekks> icsu: Yes. It doesnt help you at all against online attacks.
[20:00] <Beldar> icsu, If your booted and online the encryption means nothing
[20:00] <icsu> thank you bekks
[20:00] <Lannister> bekks: chown -r sam /opt/lampp/htdocs/ chown: invalid option -- 'r' Try `chown --help' for more information.
[20:00] <icsu> alright, got it, thank you huys
[20:00] <icsu> guys*
[20:01] <sl33k_> bekks: Is there some switch for the command to own the mount to the user?
[20:02] <Beldar> icsu, Encryption is a good way to loose all that it contains, so be sure you know what your doing.
[20:02] <sl33k_> bekks: Entered at prompt: fdisk -l and last line is. Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[20:02] <sl33k_>  .Is this something to worry about
[20:02] <icsu> Beldar: you mean if I loose my password? If I have my password there is no problem right?
[20:03] <khax> is there any handbooks/documents about encryption in ubuntu?
[20:03] <khax> !encryption
[20:03] <khax> ah interesting
[20:03] <Beldar> icsu, That is one variable, there are others.
[20:03] <icsu> like?
[20:03] <bekks> sl33k_: Sure. There is nothing to mount on that stick anymore.
[20:03] <bekks> Lannister: -r is different from -R
[20:03] <Beldar> icsu, Honestly if you have to ask you need to do some research. ;)
[20:04] <icsu> lol okok
[20:04] <icsu> thank you anyway :=
[20:04] <icsu> ;)
[20:04] <sl33k_> bekks: Do I need a tool like gparted to fix it?
[20:04] <Beldar> just saying ;)
[20:04] <sl33k_> add a partition maybe
[20:04] <icsu> guys, curiosity question, what email provider are you using?
[20:04] <bekks> sl33k_: You can use gparted or fdisk for creating a partition.
[20:05] <slikrick98> Ludus-test-Server
[20:06] <Lannister> bekks: now I can delete everything in my etc folder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:06] <Lannister> bekks: and they don't go in trash they just disappear
[20:06] <bekks> Lannister: And you just broke your keyboard because it repeats the ! key about 17 times.
[20:07] <bekks> Lannister: Everything removed on command line doesnt go into trash.
[20:07] <mitas> Can I bind /home to a specific btrfs subvolume using the LiveCD installer of Trusty? The Mini ISO does not work, because it fails to install GRUB2 on my system
[20:07] <Lannister> bekks: sorry about (! ). no I can remove them without terminal command
[20:07] <Beldar> mitas, This a dual boot and if so with what?
[20:08] <sl33k_> bekks: fired up gparted. Is there a recommended partition table type?
[20:08] <mitas> Beldar, actually this is a multi-boot system (Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit, Win7 Prof. 64Bit and Arch Linux)
[20:08] <Beldar> err intention of anyway
[20:09] <Beldar> mitas, msdos?
[20:09] <mitas> Beldar, the partition table? yes, msdos/ MBR type
[20:09] <Beldar> no gpt is the point mitas
[20:09] <bekks> sl33k_: use MB unless your USB device is larger than 2TB.
[20:09] <bekks> *MBR
[20:10] <Beldar> mitas, Cool, I'm not familiar with btrfs, is it different than just dropping the bootloader to the mbr, with a chroot?
[20:10] <Beldar> Is there a boot partition?
[20:11] <sl33k_> bekks: I am ignorant about these but could not find MBR. There are msdos and gpt among others
[20:11] <Beldar> mitas, I have 4 OS here. ;)
[20:11] <bekks> sl33k_: MBR is msdos.
[20:11] <mitas> Beldar, it is much different than dropping the bootloader to MBR within chroot and no,  there is no boot partition right now
[20:12] <Beldar> mitas, Cool, out of my pay rate than, msdos ect type and grub I'm well familiar with
 I did looks the same as my laptop
[20:12] <Beldar> ext*
[20:14] <szyszynka> hi, adjusting the brightness in my Sony Vaio VPCM12M1E on Ubuntu 14.04LTS doesn't work. What can i do?
[20:14] <mitas> Beldar, I tried installing Win7 to gpt, it is a nightmare. That's the only reason why I stuck with MBR on the disk that will contain the bootloader. btrfs subvolumes are a bit like LVM subvolumes, but they are no block devices, they are a POSIX namespace
[20:15] <Beldar> mitas, All on the same setup? I believe it all has to be the same partition table same, could be wrong however.
[20:15] <Mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I format my external HDD to exfat?
[20:15] <Mojtaba> This option is gray in gparted
[20:15] <sl33k_> bekks: Informative thanks! Now could you assist me which switch is required to mount with granting user ownership?
[20:16] <Beldar> sounds like gpt is gone now?
[20:16] <bekks> sl33k_: Did you create a filesystem on your newly created partition yet?
[20:16] <sl33k_> bekks: creating...
[20:17] <Mojtaba> I have a mac and ubuntu and I would like to be able to use my 2TB external HDD in both. Any other solution?
[20:17] <szyszynka> hi, adjusting the brightness in my Sony Vaio VPCM12M1E after update Ubuntu 14.04LTS (from 13.10) doesn't work. What can i do in this case?
[20:18] <shape> Mojtaba: it's really easy
[20:18] <shape> Mojtaba: lsblk, do you see it there?
[20:18] <Mojtaba> shape: Yes
[20:19] <shape> Mojtaba: what filesystem do you want
[20:19] <mitas> Beldar, I have 4 "HDD" 's within that particular system; one of them is an SSD. sda is my main disk, containing both GRUB2 and the Win7 ntloader, sdb and sdd are merged into a btrfs RAID1 array, sdc is my SSD which contains the root partition for my Ubuntu installation, but there is still plenty of space left on that device.
[20:19] <Mojtaba> shape: I guess I need exfat to be able to use in both mac and ubuntu.
[20:20] <mitas> Mojtaba, exfat taints the kernel
[20:20] <Mojtaba> mitas: What should I do then?
[20:20] <sl33k_> bekks: It was defaulted to ext4 which I did not touch previously in gparted GUI. But the information tab shows file system as unallocated. And I could not find any suitable option in menu. Am i missing anything?
[20:21] <bekks> sl33k_: Any suitable option for _what_?
[20:21] <shape> Mojtaba: apt-cache search exfat, then see if there is a package exfat utils, then all you have to do is mkfs.exfat /dev/partition
[20:21] <Beldar> mitas, Thing about gpt is it will leave remnants not seen without running an app like the bootinfo script, might be an issue, hard to tell, from here is all.
[20:21] <sl33k_> bekks: For allocating file system
[20:21] <Beldar> If you had gpt is all
[20:21] <bekks> sl33k_: you have to click on that button in gparted which actually executes your changes.
[20:22] <shape> Mojtaba: or just try mkfs.exfat /dev/partition and see if it works the exfat utils might be already avail
[20:22] <Beldar> mitas, Anyway, I'm not really helping you. ;)
[20:23] <Mojtaba> shape: I guess I should install it first. But I don't know how
[20:23] <Mojtaba> mitas: Do you have any suggestion?
[20:25] <sl33k_> bekks: great! had missed it entirely. Was also wondering why it warned 1 operation remaining while quitting.
[20:27] <shape> Mojtaba: I already told you how to install it. apt-get install exfat-utils then mkfs.exfat /dev/partition
[20:27] <sl33k_> bekks: How do I proceed with the mount cmds? I skimmed over that page but found it overwhelming
[20:27] <Mojtaba> shape
[20:28] <story> I'm not ethernet, how do I connect to internet within chroot?
[20:28] <story> *I am on ethernet
[20:31] <poz> hi guys, real quick question. What command can I put at the end of another to close the terminal?
[20:31] <mark__> killall gnome-terminal
[20:31] <Jordan_U> poz: some_command && exit
[20:31] <mark__> if u use gnome-terminal
[20:32] <poz> for example: sudo screen gedit textfile...
[20:32] <poz> oh okay
[20:32] <Jordan_U> poz: mark__: Don't use killall gnome-terminal, that would close *all* terminals.
[20:32] <poz> lol yeah, i wasn’t going too, not what i am looking for
[20:33] <poz> I used && exit, but it does not seem to be working...
[20:33] <Jordan_U> poz: What is your end goal?
[20:33] <Mojtaba> shape: Thanks
[20:33] <sl33k_> bekks: Am I on the right track? http://askubuntu.com/questions/191085/how-to-mount-a-drive-for-other-user-than-root
[20:33] <poz>  sudo screen gedit textfile && exit
[20:34] <bekks> sl33k_: yes.
[20:34] <poz> end goal to open the text file so it is not associated with the terminal and then close the terminal so the text file can remain open
[20:34] <poz> does that make sense?
[20:35] <shape> Mojtaba: worked?\
[20:35] <story> How do I connect to internet with command line.  I have ethernet, but links on google don't seem to be working for me.
[20:36] <Mojtaba> shape: Actually I am googling to see if I could find another solution. But at the end if I do not find anything I will format to exfat. as mitas told exfat taints the kernel. :(
[20:37] <shape> how does it taint the kernel?
[20:37] <poz> Jordan_U, the real application is not a text file, it is a .desktop file that I can stick on to the launcher. It launches an application called matlab using a script via terminal. When I launch the .desktop file it leaves the terminal open
[20:38] <bekks> shape: It is a non-opensource-module.
[20:38] <Bashing-om> story: Change root -> Open a new terminal and -> sudo cp /mnt/etc/hosts /mnt/etc/hosts.old , sudo cp /etc/hosts /mnt/etc/hosts . assuming a mount point of '/mnt'.
[20:39] <shape> bekks: if you are normal person and watch youtube through a web-browser you already have non-open-source stuff in your computer, same with probably lots of nonfree firmware ubuntu installed just to get your hardware to work
[20:39] <shape> flash-player*
[20:40] <bekks> shape: That has nothing to do with the answer to your question.
[20:40] <story> Bashing-om, I've copied the hosts over.
[20:40] <story> But I don't know what to do after that.
[20:41] <story> Bashing-om, I am doing this in a chroot, because I'm trying to update and install software in a livecd then reburn it.
[20:41] <Bashing-om> story: What is your goal on internet ? several tools are available.
[20:42] <story> Well, just do an update and install software in the chroot.
[20:42] <Bashing-om> story: Can you ping an outside source to verify you do have an internet connection.
[20:42] <story> when I do sudo apt-get update, it saying the links are unresolved, so I guess I'm not connected, even thought I have ethernet
[20:43] <story> Bashing-om, root@oz:/# ping https://www.google.com/
[20:43] <story> ping: unknown host https://www.google.com/
[20:43] <Bashing-om> story: ok, let's see -> terminal commnad -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- ...
[20:43] <Jordan_U> poz: Please pastebin your .desktop file.
[20:44] <story> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:44] <story> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2016ms
[20:44] <poz> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/833hMLgW
[20:45] <Jordan_U> story: Drop the https:// before google.com. ping uses ICMP, not http, https, or anything else.
[20:45] <Bashing-om> story: welp. we know now there is no internet connection. Did you perform a full change root ?
[20:46] <story> Full change root, uh, don't know that
[20:46] <story> I do know I am in chroot
[20:46] <Jordan_U> poz: Why are you running matlab as root?
[20:47] <shape> story: you need to copy the /etc/resolv.conf from your main machine (which im assuming it has internet) to you /media/whatever you mounted//etc/resolv.conf and then chroot in
[20:47] <poz> Jordan_U: Good question, not sure... I think awhile back I had trouble accessing data that was not in my home directory so I had to run it as root
[20:47] <story> I was told not to do that, that it should always remain a link in 14.04
[20:48] <story> Maybe I am missing something about what to do instead, something about editing that file not the link...?
[20:48] <story> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:49] <story> It's in the Prepare and chroot Section
[20:49] <Jordan_U> poz: Don't ever run a command as root unless you know that A: It is designed to be run as root (which Matlab almost certainly is not) and B: You know that the command actually needs to be run as root.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> poz: On top of that, for GUI apps you should use gksudo if you are going to run a GUI app as root.
[20:50] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | poz
[20:50] <poz> Jordan_U: Yes, sir. I understand
[20:51] <story> shape: my hosts file is exactly as the one I'm using now to talk to you as the one in chroot
[20:51] <poz> Jordan_U, I guess the problem is that neither gksudo or not having sudo does not work at all. Nothing happends
[20:52] <Jordan_U> poz: As for why the terminal isn't closing, it's because screen is not exiting (which is expected), but since you don't need the terminal for sudo any more, you should no longer have that problem and can just use Terminal=false
[20:52] <story> this is the warning that is confusing me, I don't understand what file it refers to edit: WARNING: If you do this in 14.04 LTS, you will lose network connectivity (name resolving part of it). /etc/resolv.conf is and should remain a symlink to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf nowadays. To enable name resolving, temporarily edit that file instead. If you need the network connection within chroot
[20:52] <poz> oooh i see. I will try
[20:53] <poz> Jordan_U: The icon on the launcher flashes about 10 times and nothing happens
[20:53] <Bashing-om> story: Yhe way I do a change root -> http://pastebin.com/px1iJj9d . see if that is what you have done.
[20:53] <shape> story: what it says on that wiki is strange. There should be no issue, here. to be safe just do this : chroot first then make a backup copy of the resolv.conf IN THE  CHROOT. i.e. cp /etc/rezolv.conf /etc/rezolv_backup.conf
[20:53] <sl33k_> bekks: Still cannot write. Do I add an entry in fstab like discussed here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1448092
[20:54] <shape> story: then chroot OUT of it, and do what I said, cp /etc/resolv.conf /media/whateveryoumountedto/etc/resolv.conf
[20:54] <bekks> sl33k_: So how did you mount your filesystem currently?
[20:54] <shape> story: then do all the other steps for chrooting then chroot into the system, it should work
[20:54] <story> Ok, I'm in chroot now, so I should follow YOUR chroot steps out and try that?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> poz: Please pastebin the output of "/usr/local/MATLAB/R2013b/bin/matlab", I expect you'll get permissions errors as running matlab as root has given root ownership to its configuration files.
[20:55] <shape> story: so you are in chroot correct?
[20:55] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I setup my 3G USB modem through the CLI?
[20:55] <shape> story: cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv_backup.conf
[20:55] <sl33k_> sl33k@sl33k-laptop:~$ gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdc1
[20:55] <sl33k_> Mounted /dev/sdc1 at /media/sl33k/6076eaf3-df24-49fe-a3bc-b61157ee844f
[20:55] <sl33k_> bekks ^
[20:56] <shape> story: exit chroot, then follow the steps to chrooting but before you chroot in: and do what I said, cp /etc/resolv.conf /media/whateveryoumountedto/etc/resolv.conf
[20:56] <story> I am now out of chroot
[20:56] <bekks> sl33k_: Dont use that gvfs crap
[20:56] <story> shape, ok trying it out now
[20:56] <Guest38779> hi, I want to install a .deb package, and trying with dpkg it says i have broken dependencies. I rememeber there was a nice command that asked if i wanted it to install all packages, do you know its name?
[20:56] <shape> sl33k_: what are you trying to do?
[20:58] <poz> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/Vy09272Y
[20:58] <zykotick9> Guest38779: you could try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:58] <shape> Guest38779:  gdebi  lets  you  install local deb packages resolving and installing its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp) located packages.
[20:58] <Guest38779> gdebi was it! thank you shape!
[20:58] <sl33k_> shape: usb stick not letting me write. in other words it is read-only and owner is chroot and I want to change the owner to user
[20:59] <bekks> sl33k_: So mount it using "mount".
[20:59] <Jordan_U> poz: "locate libmwservices.so"
[21:00] <poz> Jordan_U: /usr/local/MATLAB/R2013b/bin/glnxa64/libmwservices.so
[21:00] <story> shape, the exact thing it says would stop network actually starts it!!!
[21:00] <shape> sl33k_: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 <whatever directory you want>
[21:00] <story> copying the resolv.conf file over was all that I needed to do, exactly what it told me not to do.
[21:01] <Jordan_U> poz: ls -l /usr/local/MATLAB/R2013b/bin/glnxa64/libmwservices.so
[21:01] <shape> story: it doesn't say not to do that, it actually gives you the same command in a weird way sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf edit/etc/ << wtf is edit/etc/
[21:01] <shape> story: w/e fsck the wiki :p
[21:02] <story> shape, i'm at a loss...
[21:02] <story> It's flying with an upgrad now though, Thanks!!!
[21:02] <poz> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/NLAZDZce
[21:02] <shape> story: so everything is working, right?
[21:03] <sl33k_> bekks, shape: mounted. though permission denied. used
[21:03] <sl33k_> sl33k@sl33k-laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/external
[21:03] <sl33k_> sl33k@sl33k-laptop:~$
[21:03] <Beldar> shape, Acronyms of swearing are not allowed here nor the actual words.
[21:03] <bekks> sl33k_: "mounted" - using which full command line?
[21:03] <sl33k_> bekks: ^
[21:03] <bekks> sl33k_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[21:03] <story> Well, we'll see if I can put it back on cd, next, that has been a problem.  I was using pre-download .deb and I couldn get to the login manager, so we'll see how using apt works
[21:03] <shape> sl33k_: show me the output of lsblk
[21:04] <sl33k_> shape: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7517028/
[21:05] <Jordan_U> poz: So for some reason only root has even read access to that file. There's no reason that I can think not to give all users read access to everything in usr/local/MATLAB/R2013b/bin/, so we should do that.
[21:05] <shape> sl33k_: yup, it's mounted, what is the denied permission you are talking about, what are you trying to do
[21:05] <sl33k_> bekks: Did you want to emphasize this command in there? sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
[21:05] <sl33k_> shape: I want to copy file to the usb
[21:06] <bekks> sl33k_: If you are using vfat, that would be the way to go.
[21:06] <shape> sl33k_: use sudo before cp
[21:06] <Jordan_U> poz: sudo chmod +r -R /usr/local/MATLAB/R2013b/bin/
[21:07] <jjgalvez__> I am trying to mount an NFS share at boot, but when I reboot my computer it's not mounted, here is my fstab line, what am I doing wrong? backupserver:/mnt/BK1/jc	/media/jc/jcNAS		nfs	0	0
[21:08] <sl33k_> bekks: I would think for msdos type, yes! so is the conclusion rational?
[21:08] <sl33k_> shape: that is a good workaround. will try
[21:08] <sl33k_> thank
[21:08] <Guest38779> i really like gnome shortcuts, so I installed gnome. But it also accidentally changed a lot of other settings, like fonts or the terminal's look. How can i undo those settings?
[21:08] <poz> that seems to be working a lot better now
[21:09] <story> Is there a way to encrypt a filesystem with multiple keys or a really long key?
[21:09] <brianblaze420> Guest it sounds like it's time to get used to the new gnome if u wanna use it
[21:09] <Jordan_U> story: What do you consider "really long"?
[21:09] <story> Oh, a megabyte or 10
[21:10] <shape> Guest38779: you delete your gnome config folder in .config. I forgot where it is. google it
[21:10] <poz> Jordan_U, it is still not working, the splash screen pops up, but then nothing happens
[21:10] <sl33k_> bekks: sl33k@sl33k-laptop:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/external -o uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
[21:10] <sl33k_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1,
[21:10] <sl33k_>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[21:10] <sl33k_>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[21:10] <sl33k_>        dmesg | tail  or so
[21:11] <bekks> sl33k_: Use a pastebin. I am not gonna read and answer your posts otherwise.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | sl33k_
[21:11] <Jordan_U> story: Why do you want a 10 MiB key?
[21:11] <sl33k_> alright my bad
[21:12] <Guest38779> shape: done. I will log out to see if it works. Thank you again!
[21:12] <story> Jordan_U, I'm not a mathematician, so I just want overkill safety.
[21:12] <sl33k_> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7517047/
[21:12] <shape> story: research dm-crypt. dm-crypt is the standard device-mapper encryption functionality provided by the Linux kernel.
[21:13] <bekks> sl33k_: Obviously you did not create a vfat filesystem, did you?
[21:14] <sl33k_> bekks: right it was ext4. modify and retry?
[21:14] <_123Boy> invest bitcoin. Get up to 45% profit.  More info  http://site.gtoptions.com/bitcoin/?campaign=48&ctag=a3948-b2479-p-fadbitter-cVE
[21:14] <Jordan_U> poz: You probably need to give world read permissions to the rest of the MATLAB directory. Please join ##matlab, explain to them how you installed matlab and your current problem, and confirm with them that it's OK to give world read permissions to all of the MATLAB directory.
[21:15] <shape> sl33k_: why do you keep specifying the filesystem for mount. It knows what filesystem to use. YES ITS THAT SMART
[21:16] <poz> Jordan_U, I did that already - giving the world read permissions to the matlab directory anyways. I have to go soon, but I will go to the ##matlab channel later and ask them. I did not know a channel for matlab existed. Thank you for your help so far!
[21:17] <AphisOne> I attempting to roll-out 14.04 at an office, with customizations to unity.  I used UCK to remaster the ISO, made changes with gsettings.  However when we create new users the settings don't stick.  Where/how do I make these changes??
[21:17] <sl33k_> shape: I referred to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB In partical the Mount the Drive section
[21:19] <Nucleus> Hello, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 and having trouble getting my vpn (torguard) to work.
[21:19] <Nucleus> Do you have any suggestions?
[21:19] <AphisOne> Where are the gconf settings stored for skel?
[21:20] <sl33k_> shape, bekks: even though I remove the -t switch same error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7517067/
[21:20] <jrib> AphisOne: what do you mean?  Why do you think there are gconf settings for skel?
[21:20] <AphisOne> jrib: did you see my previous msg?
[21:20] <bekks> sl33k_: So read the error message and do what it tells you.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> poz: Please pastebin the output of "ls -lR /usr/local/MATLAB/".
[21:21] <sl33k_> bekks, shape: I printed the diagnostics http://paste.ubuntu.com/7517072/
[21:21] <gfredericks> any guesses why mpd ignores the sound settings and outputs to hardware speakers?
[21:21] <shape> sl33k_: I told you not to mount like that. it only needs 2 arguments : sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/external  <<<<that's it
[21:21] <jrib> AphisOne: https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/3.12/dconf-custom-default-values.html.en
[21:21] <shape> sl33k_: it's already mounted, you can see in lsblk
[21:22] <AphisOne> jrib: thanks
[21:23] <AphisOne> jrib: Unity is using dconf not gconf?
[21:23] <sl33k_> shape: yes I saw it again. why can't I mount with umount now?
[21:23] <sl33k_> Is it sort of automounted?
[21:23] <sl33k_> shape: s/mount/unmount
[21:24] <shape> sl33k_: you need to umount it before you try mounting it again
[21:24] <poz> Jordan_U, Too much, I need to change how many lines the terminal shows... but my gf keeps bothering me. I have to go now. Thank you for your help though!
[21:25] <[LustFul]V33nA> hey, can i setup my ubuntu on a usb and hve a good setup
[21:25] <shape> sl33k_: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/externa -o uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
[21:25] <[LustFul]V33nA> i have a laptop give to me by my company it has windows
[21:25] <[LustFul]V33nA> and i am travelling but i miss using linux
[21:28] <mitas__> Can I bind /home to a specific btrfs subvolume using the LiveCD installer of Trusty? The Mini ISO does not work, because it fails to install GRUB2 on my system
[21:29] <shape> sl33k_: you here?
[21:30] <sl33k_> shape: mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist
[21:30] <{asimov}> What is the rendering engine for failsafe X?
[21:30] <sl33k_> fdisk -l also does not locate it
[21:30] <shape> sl33k_: sudo umount /dev/sc1; sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/external; sudo chmod -R a+rwX,o-w /media/external
[21:31] <shape> Sorry I did a typo: sudo umount /dev/sdc1; sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/external; sudo chmod -R a+rwX,o-w /media/external
[21:31] <shape> sl33k_: wtf? show me lsblk again
[21:31] <Jeeves_Moss> I've been able to get my PPPd dialer setup, but I keep getting "rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x15 <ms-dns1 10.11.12.13> <ms-dns2 10.11.12.14> <ms-wins 10.11.12.13> <ms-wins 10.11.12.14>]" and I can't get an IP address.  How do I fix this?
[21:32] <sl33k_> shape: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7517111/
[21:32] <mitas> Can I bind /home to a specific btrfs subvolume using the LiveCD installer of Trusty? The Mini ISO does not work, because it fails to install GRUB2 on my system
[21:32] <mitas> . I want to share the same btrfs /home partition with Arch Linux and subvolumes seem to be the most flexible way of handling this situation
[21:32] <shape> sl33k_: ah it's sdb now, right?
[21:32] <bekks> mitas: you cant do that using an installer. you have to debootstrap your "new" system.
[21:32] <sl33k_> shape: yes
[21:33] <shape> sudo umount /dev/sdb1; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external; sudo chmod -R a+rwX,o-w /media/external
[21:34] <story> Is there a way to make a backup of deb files that I can use with a tool that treats them like a repo so when they install they pick the depencies first?  I need this for offline use.
[21:34] <mitas> bekks, as in create a temporary /home partition during install and relocating the contents of that partition to my spanky new subvolume?
[21:34] <daftykins> story: all downloaded .deb's are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives - is that sufficient?
[21:34] <bekks> mitas: No. As in using debootstrap instead of the installer.
[21:34] <shape> sl33k_: worked?
[21:35] <sl33k_> shape: permission denied
[21:35] <story> daftykins, well its okay, but It's hard to reinstall them, because some need to be installed before others.  This is a big pain, so I'm looking for another method.
[21:36] <ricardo> i need help with ubuntu
[21:37] <daftykins> Guest25257: ask your question
[21:37] <sl33k_> shape: I will try sudo cp
[21:37] <[LustFul]V33nA> hi
[21:37] <Guest25257> hi
[21:37] <[LustFul]V33nA> can i get an ubuntu isntallation on USB
[21:37] <[LustFul]V33nA> and take it with me
[21:37] <shape> sl33k_: that will work 100%
[21:37] <[LustFul]V33nA> also will it work as a drive
[21:37] <Guest25257> i am trying to download itunes on ubuntu
[21:37] <k1l_> [LustFul]V33nA: use ther persistance install
[21:38] <Guest25257> and i dont know anything about itunes
[21:38] <daftykins> story: you could run a local caching apt proxy that keeps downloaded packages available for other systems to repeat the same, depends what you're trying to do
[21:38] <Guest25257> i mean xubuntu. i am a linux newbe
[21:38] <daftykins> !itunes
[21:38] <k1l_> [LustFul]V33nA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:38] <daftykins> Guest25257: you can't run iTunes itself, but see above.
[21:39] <sl33k_> shape: is there a short way to write /home/sl33k/Desktop ?
[21:39] <shape> sl33k_: what do you mean
[21:39] <shape> sl33k_: write what
[21:39] <k1l_> sl33k_: ~/Desktop
[21:40] <Guest25257> are there any websites out there like ubuntu or linux for dummies.
[21:40] <daftykins> sl33k_: don't forget you can tab complete.
[21:41] <k1l_> Guest25257: see wiki.ubuntu.com
[21:41] <sl33k_> k1l_ : nift one. this presumably directly jumps to the inner directories
[21:41] <Guest25257> thanks kt1
[21:41] <Guest25257> so where in the world are you kt1
[21:41] <k1l_> sl33k_: ~ is short for /home/<user>
[21:42] <sl33k_> mhm
[21:42] <{asimov}> What is the rendering engine for failsafe X?
[21:42] <sl33k_> thanks guys for the support!
[21:42] <k1l_> sl33k_: and you can write ~/Desk    and then press "tab" to let it complete to Desktop
[21:43] <sl33k_> might sound cliched but mind=blown
[21:43] <Beldar> {asimov}, It is a low grapic boot
[21:43] <Beldar> graphic
[21:43] <moises> hi
[21:44] <{asimov}> Beldar: low graphic?
[21:44] <{asimov}> Is it software redured?
[21:45] <Beldar> {asimov}, This is not ubuntu hand holding, that is abasic stuff, look it up. ;)
[21:45] <{asimov}> The animation response time is much slower.
[21:46] <Beldar> {asimov}, It is not for use but to get past a black screen to X
[21:46] <{asimov}> abasic rendured
[21:47] <mitas> when installing Trusty on my desktop the installer complains that my chosen computer name already exitsts on the network. My previous installation *on the same machine* *had* the same name before it was wiped, why can't I re-use that computer name?
[21:47] <{asimov}> there is some bug that was making the chip or chip driver fail
[21:47] <Beldar> {asimov}, Name the hardware, the issue ans use nicks.
[21:47] <Beldar> and*
[21:48] <{asimov}> ansi C
[21:48] <Beldar> {asimov}, ansi C?
[21:49] <nf7> ls
[21:49] <{asimov}> Beldar: holy C
[21:49] <k1l_> {asimov}: last warning now: dont make nonsense support to "generate support". if you have an issue describe it and people will try to help
[21:50] <shape> sl33k_: can you try this? sudo chmod 777 /media/external
[21:50] <suaka88> hello, in ubuntu how do you regain control of the computer when a process is taking too long (for example opening a huge pdf) ?  is there some sort of way to kill the process without turning off the computer?
[21:51] <Beldar> suaka88, killall the app
[21:51] <suaka88> how do you do it?
[21:51] <suaka88> sorry i am a beginner
[21:51] <Beldar> suaka88, In the terminal killall "appused"
[21:51] <mitas> when installing Trusty on my desktop the installer complains that my chosen computer name already exitsts on the network. My previous installation *on the same machine* *had* the same name before it was wiped, why can't I re-use that computer name? Even better, when I re-installed my system (thrice now), I "lost" another name. Where is this hostname stored, on my router perhaps?
[21:52] <suaka88> but the terminal would take aged to open in these circumstances.... is there something that does it directly from the keyboard?
[21:52] <Beldar> suaka88, NO
[21:52] <Beldar> sorry cap stick
[21:53] <suaka88> so for example terminal: killall firefox
[21:53] <Beldar> suaka88, There are 3 or 4 ways to kill an app, all from the cli
[21:53] <Beldar> suaka88, Yep thatis correct
[21:53] <suaka88> ok thank you
[21:53] <Ben64> suaka88: an easy way is using ssh, it usually works when the system is too slow to use
[21:53] <sl33k_> shape: works correctly.
[21:53] <sl33k_> thanks
[21:53] <suaka88> ssh? how to use it?
[21:53] <Ben64> !ssh
[21:54] <shape> sl33k_: with that command, it works now?
[21:54] <sl33k_> shape: yes
[21:54] <{asimov}> k1l_: to generate support it should be from the foundations
[21:54] <shape> sl33k_: so you don't need to use sudo cp, right?
[21:54] <sl33k_> shape: why did not you do chown?
[21:54] <shape> sl33k_: you can do that as well
[21:54] <suaka88> bye, thanks again
[21:55] <sl33k_> I did do cp. though it would be tedious in hindsight ;)
[21:55] <Beldar> {asimov}, Arguing with a mod on a specific rule set for the chanell is not a good idea
[21:55] <shape> sl33k_: sudo chown sl33k:sl33k /media/external
[21:56] <sl33k_> shape: the : separates owner and group I guess
[21:56] <MIke11123> Ok, got a question, my dbus is saying that it can't own any services due to security policies
[21:56] <shape> sl33k_: sudo chown -R sl33k:sl33k /media/external    forgot the -R, yeah
[21:56] <MIke11123> Even when I run the commands as root
[21:56] <Beldar> MIke11123, Still this complied dbus?
[21:57] <{asimov}> not arguing, simple statement
[21:57] <Beldar> compiled*
[21:57] <MIke11123> Yep Beldar, can't get online because the dbus won't take ownership of any services
[21:58] <mitas> when installing Trusty on my desktop the installer (ubiquity)  complains that my chosen computer name already exitsts on the network. My previous installation *on the same machine* *had* the same name before it was wiped, why can't I re-use that computer name? Even better, when I re-installed my system (thrice now), I "lost" another name. Where is this hostname stored, on my router perhaps?
[21:58] <Beldar> MIke11123, I would like to point out that you had one of the best here helping you earlier. This is not a supported issue, reinstall or fix it than come back.
[21:58] <sl33k_> appreciate the help shape
[21:58] <sl33k_> :)
[21:58] <shape> sl33k_: np :)
[21:59] <Beldar> MIke11123, Coming back like this is a waste of time for you and the channel helpers.
[22:01] <studio> I am using a dual monitor set up.  I will be watching a video on one and working on the other.  The problem I have is that the video will not stay fill screen if I am doing anything on the other monitor.  Anyone know how to change that?
[22:01] <k1l_> studio: flash?
[22:01] <studio> youtube, hulu, vimeo
[22:02] <k1l_> so its flash. i dont know of a resolution for that
[22:02] <rio_zenta> I've seen a lot of issues surrounding the grub install on ubuntu 12.04. Does anybody know why this issue happened?
[22:03] <Beldar> rio_zenta, What issue?
[22:03] <k1l_> rio_zenta: can you be more specific?
[22:03] <rio_zenta> Sorry, I meant the "black screen" issue. Found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132&p=10089820#post10089820
[22:03] <rio_zenta> the 1 where you have to use nomodeset
[22:04] <Beldar> rio_zenta, The only thing grub has to do with that is the insertion of nomodeset, that is a graphic driver issue.
[22:04] <k1l_> rio_zenta: that is not a grub issue. its a kernel bootparameter that the kernel and the video driver needs
[22:05] <rio_zenta> okay, so the issue was with the graphics driver?
[22:06] <Beldar> rio_zenta, Not every driver gets installed, is available on a live, or in the repos.
[22:06] <k1l_> yep
[22:06] <rio_zenta> Did everyone on 12.04 experience it?
[22:06] <rio_zenta> oh!!! that makes a lot of sense Beldar
[22:06] <k1l_> rio_zenta: no. its not everyone. it depends on your specific hardware
[22:06] <rio_zenta> now I understand why the linux folks sometimes complain about graphics drivers. The hardware companies dont like releasing access/info about it.
[22:07] <Beldar> rio_zenta, I figured you would get that, some are reversed engineered, or provided by manufactures....etc.
[22:07] <k1l_> rio_zenta: yes. linux doesnt get the support like windows does
[22:08] <rio_zenta> okay this makes a lot of sense now. My newer laptop successfully installed without trouble, but my older systems all experienced the grub issue.
[22:08] <Beldar> rio_zenta, Not a grub issue, don't say it that way.
[22:09] <k1l_> rio_zenta: its a solution that is entered in grub. the issue is on the video driver side
[22:10] <rio_zenta> I've used the nomodeset solution. But the final step is to install the drivers?
[22:10] <Beldar> rio_zenta, If they are in the repos yes.
[22:11] <Beldar> rio_zenta, There are other driver possibilities, however here we start with the open source in the repos.
[22:11] <rio_zenta> Beldar and if not, then nomodeset is the final solution.
[22:12] <Beldar> rio_zenta, You're asking questions based on dichotomies, not everything is black or white. ;)
[22:13] <rio_zenta> Beldar I'm not sure this solution matters much to me. I am going to convert this desktop to ubuntu server using tasksel, so this shouldn't matter much, right?
[22:13] <Beldar> rio_zenta, I am not familiar with running without X if that is your point.
[22:14] <rio_zenta> Beldar: Okay no problem. But thanks for the assistance. You as well k1l_
[22:15] <Beldar> rio_zenta, Best of luck, come back if needed of course. ;)
[22:16] <rio_zenta> I'm gonna be here to assist someone else Beldar. That is my policy for "getting/giving" in linux terms.
[22:16] <Beldar> awesome, we like that.
[22:16] <rio_zenta> Success! :)
[22:19] <steven_> Hi
[22:19] <steven_> What program can I use to take pictures from my webcam?
[22:20] <Beldar> steven_, Cheese does I believe.
[22:20] <steven_> ok, but i dont like cheese
[22:22] <DrRodneyMckay> Can someone please help with a RegEx / Filtering some data? I have a example in here - http://pastebin.com/2ae2XgFv
[22:22] <rio_zenta> I use cheese too.
[22:22] <Beldar> steven_, Hmm, might that been a relevant to begin with? might be worth looking through this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/webcam?sort=votes
[22:23] <steven_> Ok, I will see
[22:23] <rio_zenta> lol.
[22:24] <Beldar> steven_, Problem here is that we don't really suggest apps, we help you fix what;s broken in them.
[22:24] <Beldar> DrRodneyMckay, This a wine issue?
[22:25] <DrRodneyMckay> Beldar - No Just a list that someone generated through find, But i now need to filtter down the max depth
[22:25] <steven_> I do not like cheese because every time I take a picture the system crashes
[22:26] <Beldar> steven_, What is the hardware you are working with, the ubuntu release, and the desktop?
[22:26] <Beldar> 3 questions
[22:26] <MonkeyDust_> a system crashing on cheese?
[22:27] <steven_> Xubuntu with a laptop thoshiba c55 series 4gb ram and AMD quad core A6
[22:27] <steven_> yes the system fail when i take a picture
[22:27] <steven_> xubuntu 14 lts
[22:28] <Beldar> steven_, Could you be over driving the memory or cpu?
[22:28] <Beldar> like lots of thing s open
[22:30] <steven_> Problem solved. I went to install the program and it works.
[22:31] <steven_> thanks a lot
[22:33] <Kaapa> hello everyone. Trying to use gstm, which is proving to be challenging when I have no tray icon
[22:33] <rio_zenta> 4gb of ram crashing on cheese, now that is a scary thought.
[22:35] <Derpadong> You put cheese in your computer?
[22:35] <Derpadong> lol
[22:35] <Beldar> !ot | Derpadong
[22:36] <Derpadong> Sorry
[22:38] <husain> cek
[22:38] <MonkeyDust_> !cheese > Derpadong
[22:38] <Derpadong> No
[22:38] <MonkeyDust_> !info cheese > Derpadong
[22:38] <Derpadong> I know what cheese is
[22:42] <wiak> do any of you know what file is the log file for compile/make commands?
[22:42] <daftykins> it tends to output to screen, i doubt it has a file
[22:43] <daftykins> although don't rely on me!
[22:44] <Kaapa> any clues? How do I add gstm to the systray?
[22:44] <Kaapa> apparently, only unity-specific apps are allowed to register stuff there
[22:45] <wiak> daftykins, found a solution hehe >&log :P
[22:48] <wheresmypaaants> hi
[22:48] <wheresmypaaants> i have an issue
[22:48] <wheresmypaaants> :P
[22:48] <Beldar> !details | wheresmypaaants all in one post
[22:49] <wheresmypaaants> so, in terminal, and other apps, sometimes when i put a command in it flashes back to the other text before it, then to the new one, and back and forth and back and forth
[22:49] <wheresmypaaants> its really annoying and i have to restart whatever im doing when it happens
[22:49] <Beldar> wheresmypaaants, The cursor moves?
[22:49] <wheresmypaaants> the cursor moves... yeah, but its the terminal text thats the issue
[22:50] <Beldar> wheresmypaaants, Type slower your are erring
[22:50] <SchrodingersScat> wheresmypaaants: are you on a laptop?
[22:50] <wheresmypaaants> SchrodingersScat: No, desktop
[22:50] <wheresmypaaants> Beldar: Sorry
[22:50] <Beldar> wheresmypaaants, In the terminal not here.
[22:51] <wheresmypaaants> Beldar: If i error than it does that?
[22:51] <wheresmypaaants> Beldar: That's dumb
[22:52] <Beldar> wheresmypaaants, Uh, just type correctly in  the terminal, I forget the key that moves the cursor fully besides the arrow keys.
[22:52] <wheresmypaaants> what does typing incorrectly have to do with text flashing back and forth
[22:52] <wheresmypaaants> -_-
[22:53] <Beldar> wheresmypaaants, At best your description is terrible, so............
[22:53] <wheresmypaaants> Here, I'll elaborate :P
[22:54] <wheresmypaaants> When I'm doing a script (it happens most during that, but other times as well) it randomly flashes to past output, then back, and it does that over and over. I then have to kill terminal and start a new terminal session and start a new script.
[22:55] <Ben64> wheresmypaaants: can you take a video
[22:55] <wheresmypaaants> i'll do my best
[22:55] <wheresmypaaants> ;)
[22:55] <wheresmypaaants> I'll be back when I has footage
[22:56] <Mathias> i'm having a weird issue, whenever i'm using shift+' the ' randomly repeats itself. any ideas on how to solve it?
[22:58] <SupaYoshi> can anybody do me a favor and look at the right permssions and file owner of /var/log/mysql/error.log ??
[22:58] <SupaYoshi> I accedentily removed that file, and now mysql is unable to log things i think :P
[22:58] <SupaYoshi> writes empty files
[22:58] <Ben64> -rw-r----- 1 mysql adm 0 May 25 07:36 /var/log/mysql/error.log
[22:58] <Ben64> don't delete important files
[22:59] <Mathias> Ben64: isn't that why they're called important? :P
[22:59] <Ben64> then don't delete them :D
[22:59] <wheresmypaaants> got two videos
[22:59] <wheresmypaaants> uploading now
[22:59] <Mathias> ok, looks like the apostrophe isn't just acting funny when i'm using it with ctrl :\
[22:59] <gh-p> Can you name me an opensource forum, where those who mention Windows get an insta-ban?
[23:00] <xangua> !ot | gh-p
[23:00] <gh-p> xangua, sorry!
[23:01] <SupaYoshi> what about the folder /var/log/mysql/
[23:01] <SupaYoshi> what permissions does that have?
[23:01] <SupaYoshi> Cus it writes files, but theyre empty. and I dont think i have no errors at all of my sql.
[23:01] <SupaYoshi> Well it could be, but that be odd to me.
[23:01] <Ben64> drwxr-s--- 2 mysql             adm     4096 May 25 07:36 mysql
[23:02] <wheresmypaaants> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEv2883GdNY
[23:02] <wheresmypaaants> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUfPAsHqjMM
[23:02] <SupaYoshi> heh got that
[23:02] <SupaYoshi> tyuh :)
[23:02] <lannister> I'm trying to run DVWA-1.0.7 on XAMPP. I can do it in windows not in ubuntu. I start sql database server and apache server. I extract DVWA and paste in in /opt/lampp/htdocs   then I open 127.0.0.1 in browser and it shows nothing.
[23:02] <SupaYoshi> k so confused now, apaprantly my files were okay :P
[23:02] <designbybeck> Lenovo Laptop y410p Dualbooting. Win8. we had to install Xubuntu and then install ubuntu-desktop. It was working for a week or so,
[23:02] <designbybeck> now it is broke again
[23:03] <rio_zenta> lannister (lol what a username) what is DVWA?
[23:03] <designbybeck> We can go into Xubuntu session, but not Ubuntu
[23:03] <wheresmypaaants> Ben64: Video made
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> smh, wth, im trying to figure out why my XBMC keeps saying this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7517392/
[23:03] <lannister> rio_zenta: Damn Vulnerable Web App
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> So i tried looking in my mysql logs on my server.
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> But i cant find anything?
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> What am i doing wrong? O.o
[23:03] <fabkius> hi, driver ati HD 6310 for ubuntu 10.04?
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> Where can I find it.
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> xD
[23:03] <lannister> rio_zenta: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvwa/?source=dlp
[23:03] <Ben64> wheresmypaaants: well that sure is strange
[23:04] <rio_zenta> lannister, did you start the lamp server? You need to start it first.
[23:04] <Ben64> fabkius: 10.04 is no longer supported for desktops, you need to upgrade
[23:04] <rio_zenta> designbybeck: If xubuntu works, why do you need ubuntu desktop?
[23:04] <wheresmypaaants> Ben64: And annoying >:P
[23:04] <lannister> rio_zenta: I did start it
[23:04] <fabkius> ok, thanks!
[23:05] <lannister> rio_zenta: there is a green light right beside sql data server and apache server
[23:05] <k1l_> wheresmypaaants: that looks like a video card/driver issue to me
[23:06] <wheresmypaaants> k1l_: What do you suggest?
[23:06] <wheresmypaaants> To fix it?
[23:06] <rio_zenta> perhaps there is some pre-required stuff needed lannister. Like actually filling the DB with the DVWA data?
[23:06] <k1l_> wheresmypaaants: what videocard/driver?
[23:06] <lannister> rio_zenta: http://i.imgur.com/aM7rITR.png
[23:06] <LuthaPowa> hello
[23:06] <wheresmypaaants> Nvidia
[23:06] <wheresmypaaants> I'll fetch the full name
[23:07] <YuLin> hi guys
[23:07] <designbybeck> rio_zenta, it was preference, but OpenGL doesn't seem to be working on Xubuntu side
[23:07] <rio_zenta> it's possible that there's nothing in the DB? lannister. Simple dropping the stuff into htdocs won't make it just appear in a DB.
[23:07] <rio_zenta> designbybeck: could you provide some more info on what is not working?
[23:08] <lannister> rio_zenta: what do you mean with filling DB with DVWA. I pasted DVWA folder into /opt/lampp/htdocs is that what you mean??
[23:08] <wheresmypaaants> k1l_: NVIDIA binary driver - version 337.19 from nvidia-337 - (open source)
[23:08] <YuLin> would anyone have a kickstart cfg script for a simple 13.10 server install?
[23:08] <YuLin> (please)
[23:08] <designbybeck> rio_zenta, we just purged and about to try the install of nvidia drivers again... I'll report back after that! Thanks
[23:08] <lannister> rio_zenta: how can I fix this??
[23:08] <rio_zenta> lannister, have you ever installed joomla before?
[23:08] <lannister> rio_zenta: no havn't tried joomla
[23:09] <designbybeck> I was a fan of joomla back in the day, but I haven't tried all the new improvments in years so I know they have come a long way
[23:09] <rio_zenta> lannister: http://www.webantix.net/2009/11/installing-dvwa-damn-vulnerable-web.html
[23:10] <fabkius> hi, driver for amd videocard ati hd 6310 not work on ubuntu 12.04, driver amd is supported by ubuntu since version 12.04?
[23:10] <rio_zenta> designbybeck: I like that they made it responsive, but what I was trying to point out to lannister is that even when using joomla, you normally have to "fill" the DB with some pre-data, which i assumed DVWA might need too.
[23:10] <mitas> bekks, I got around using debootstrap. My method was to install normally, using a temporary /home drive. Afterwards, I dropped into rescue mode, remounted / readwrite, created a btrfs raid1 array and a subvolume ubuntuhome_sv on top of it. I edited /etc/fstab to comment out the old /home and made my new /home point to the subvolume I had just created. This corrupts my original user, but after creating another user I used that one to log
[23:10] <mitas> in on the system that finally meets my demands. Evrything works now.
[23:11] <Jordan_U> lannister: Why didn't you install LAMP normally, via the repositories?
[23:12] <designbybeck> ah
[23:12] <YuLin> kickstart config for ubuntu 13.10 server, anyone?
[23:13] <rio_zenta> Jordan_U: Xampp is too easy for win guys to want to install a lamp server
[23:13] <wheresmypaaants> k1l_: ping
[23:13] <wheresmypaaants> k1l_: NVIDIA binary driver - version 337.19 from nvidia-337 - (open source)
[23:13] <rio_zenta> I know, cause I also wanted to use xampp for linux once upon a time.
[23:13] <k1l_> !xampp
[23:14] <Jordan_U> rio_zenta: Installing LAMP normally is easier than installing xampp or lampp IMHO.
[23:14] <k1l_> wheresmypaaants: is that a ubuntu driver? did you try the ubuntu drivers from the repo?
[23:14] <rio_zenta> Jordan_U: that might be true, but inertia is the reason why so many people will still use something when something else is available.
[23:14] <LuthaPowa> holla laura
[23:15] <wheresmypaaants> k1l_: I assumed open source drivers in the additional drivers page are ubuntu drivers
[23:15] <Ben64> nvidia binary driver is not open source
[23:16] <lannister> Jordan_U: didn't know it makes any difference. like if you install virtualbox from software centre it will install a very old unstable version so I kind of stoped using default repo
[23:16] <k1l_> wheresmypaaants: no. there is something wrong. which ubuntu is that exactly? the latest 14.04 nvidia driver is 331
[23:16] <wheresmypaaants> k1l_: Haven't updated for a while
[23:17] <wheresmypaaants> k1l_: I'm on pure ubuntu
[23:17] <rio_zenta> lannister you don't actually need the repo version of lamp either.
[23:17] <k1l_> wheresmypaaants: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&section=all&arch=any&keywords=nvidia-337&searchon=names
[23:17] <rekedmir> Can anybody recommend a decent wireless adapter they can swear by? I googled for a few and bought two, one keeps disconnecting and the other one keeps overheating then disconnecting... Am really frustrated
[23:18] <wheresmypaaants> Sorry, your search gave no results
[23:18] <k1l_> wheresmypaaants: that is no an ubuntu package. so i dont know if that driver is causing that issue
[23:18] <k1l_> wheresmypaaants: yes, because nvidia-377 is not a ubuntu package
[23:18] <wheresmypaaants> got it in ubuntu driver page
[23:18] <wheresmypaaants> k1l_:
[23:19] <wheresmypaaants> its 337
[23:19] <wheresmypaaants> my bad
[23:19] <wheresmypaaants> sorry
[23:19] <paperman1> I installed a theme, but how do i apply it?
[23:19] <paperman1> lol
[23:19] <wheresmypaaants> paperman1:
[23:19] <wheresmypaaants> you reboot, then look for the settings icon and click the theme
[23:19] <wheresmypaaants> at the login screen
[23:19] <wheresmypaaants> hit the settings icon kajigger
[23:20] <paperman1> i know how to change themes, but this new theme is not showing up there
[23:20] <paperman1> maybe i need to reboot like wheresmypaaants said
[23:20] <Ben64> paperman1: what do you mean by "theme"
[23:20] <paperman1> moka
[23:20] <paperman1> http://mokaproject.com/
[23:21] <wheresmypaaants> paperman1: sudo reboot
[23:21] <paperman1> alright
[23:21] <lannister> rio_zenta_afk: http://i.imgur.com/jqwthya.png
[23:21] <paperman1> brb then
[23:21] <Reptilia> I used to have Xubuntu 13.10 installed on my laptop, and i've decided to format everything, and do a fresh install of Xubuntu 14.10. After that, i notice that the overall performance has decreased, whether in browsing the net, opening apps, etc. What could the problem be, and is there a way to fix this? Thanks in advance.
[23:21] <Ben64> Reptilia: 14.10 is not released yet, and therefore not supported in here, try #ubuntu+1
[23:22] <gusbz> hi
[23:22] <Reptilia> Ben64:I guess i've made a mistake, 14.04, sorry*
[23:22] <Sarseo> How does Ubuntu measure up for gaming so far today?
[23:23] <gusbz> anyone could answer me a english grammar questiom in private?
[23:23] <k1l_> !ot | gusbz
[23:23] <Reptilia> I used to have Xubuntu 13.10 installed on my laptop, and i've decided to format everything, and do a fresh install of Xubuntu 14.04. After that, i notice that the overall performance has decreased, whether in browsing the net, opening apps, etc. What could the problem be, and is there a way to fix this? Thanks in advance.
[23:23] <hroi> hi
[23:24] <Ben64> Reptilia: kind of a generic question. try using system monitors to see what is taking resources. atop, htop, top, ps....
[23:24] <hroi> Im getting a little tired of short support ubuntu
[23:24] <hroi> is it possible for me to switch to ubuntu stable?   in an apt command?
[23:24] <k1l_> hroi: which ubuntu are you on?
[23:24] <hroi> I also hear that language support input methods and stuff is way better in stable
[23:25] <hroi> k1l_, ehm I think 1310
[23:25] <hroi> lets see
[23:25] <k1l_> hroi: lsb_release -r
[23:25] <Reptilia> Ben64:Anyone else has reported that they've noticed this?
[23:25] <hroi> k1l_,  the lates short support
[23:25] <Ben64> Reptilia: not that i've seen
[23:25] <hroi> 13.10
[23:25] <hroi> sorry not latest
[23:26] <k1l_> hroi: upgrade to 14.04 then, that is a LTS version
[23:26] <hroi> k1l_,  does that mean it has more things ironed out?
[23:26] <Sarseo> Hm... Lack of an answer must mean it's either pretty bad or not a valid question to ask. :\
[23:26] <k1l_> hroi: it got 5 years support
[23:26] <hroi> k1l_,  like ibus input ?
[23:26] <k1l_> !lts | hroi
[23:27] <Ben64> Sarseo: its a very subjective question, and not really a support question.
[23:27] <k1l_> hroi: it got some new versions than 13.10 so mybe there are some bugs already fixed
[23:28] <hroi> k1l_,  Im not sure, but basically.... LTS should age well!  right?
[23:28] <Jeffrey_f1> hroi: LTS is meant for enterprise systems where you can't afford to be on the bleeding edge, where you have stable software instead of fixes as soon as they are avail.
[23:28] <hroi> k1l_,  only get better with time... more bugs fixed
[23:28] <hroi> k1l_, instead of constantly going for latest versions
[23:29] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1, ok good
[23:29] <Ben64> LTS is good for people who don't want to upgrade every 6 months
[23:29] <Sarseo> Ben64, subjective questions aren't allowed here? :\  And how well games run / how well supported / performance compared to other OS's sounds pretty support-related to me.
[23:30] <Jeffrey_f1> hroi: The downside, you don't have immediate fixes or new stuff until the next LTS
[23:30] <Ben64> Sarseo: i'm sure it'd be a good topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:30] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1, k1l_, Ben64 :     yeah... im not intersested in bleeding edge... mostly in stability and minimizing bugs...
[23:30] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1, k1l_ , Ben64 :  Now... does a very "new" LTS... have many bugs... as many as a short term support?
[23:31] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1,  right... I wont have latest version... that normally means new features... but not bug fixes so much
[23:31] <Ben64> hroi: it is possible, but 13.10 loses support and bugfixes entirely in about 2 months
[23:32] <Jeffrey_f1> hroi: LTS is the way then.  LTS is enterprise grade and there WILL be bugs, but the software tends to be tried and true versions with the exception of security fixes
[23:32] <DANtheBEASTman> how do I enable multiarch in 14.04?
[23:32] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1, ok... thanks!
[23:32] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1,   security is good... but what bugs me most is desktop related bugs... especially chinese input
[23:34] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1,  I'd be happy with an older version of my desktop, so long the input method system works like charm
[23:34] <Jeffrey_f1> hroi: not sure about specific bugs, if you have a problem, document and report the bugs at Launchpad.net
[23:35] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1, funny thing is, when it comes to chinese input... you almost dont bother reporting it, there are already hundreds of reports
[23:35] <yeats> DANtheBEASTman: usually you just have to append :i386 to the package name
[23:37] <{asimov}> SchrodingersScat: did it work
[23:37] <Jeffrey_f1> hroi: Not sure what to tell you.  The only way to get stuff fixed is either fix it yourself and submit it as a bug fix or keep reporting
[23:37] <hroi> but I gather, version 14. is LTS, but not necessarily emphasising desktop stuff
[23:38] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1, yeah... but thanks... I have a better view of what LTS is.   It doesnt necessarily mean older desktop than 13.10
[23:38] <Ben64> hroi: 14.04 is LTS, everything is supported in it for 5 years, there will also be a 14.10, which is only supported for 9 months
[23:38] <Guest9949> ciao
[23:38] <hroi> Ben64, great, I might as well go to 14.04   and see how things improve with time
[23:38] <Reptilia> How can i check the graphics card adapter that i have on my laptop, using the terminal?
[23:38] <hroi> Ben64, btw. is 12.04 LTS still in support?
[23:39] <Ben64> hroi: yes
[23:39] <ianorlin> Reptilia: lspci if it is an internal card or lsusb if it is a usb card
[23:39] <cestari> fisrt access
[23:39] <Jeffrey_f1> hroi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[23:39] <Reptilia> ianorlin:Thanks
[23:39] <hroi> Ben64, great!  I imagine if 12.04 has been around for a couple of years it might have aged passed some bugs already
[23:40] <Ben64> hroi: it's getting old though
[23:40] <hroi> Jeffrey_f1, Ben64,   maybe old is good --- kinda of what I was getting at... is older LTS better and more stable than brand new LTS :)
[23:40] <hroi> ?
[23:41] <Ben64> i'd install 14.04 if i were to install ubuntu right now
[23:41] <hroi> *better is a bit subjective... I mean ironed out
[23:41] <Jeffrey_f1> For me, I've left the LTS as most bugs lately have been few.
[23:42] <hroi> great.
[23:42] <hroi> might as well
[23:43] <hroi> how do I issue an upgrade command to 14.04 LTS?
[23:43] <hroi> Im on 13.10
[23:43] <Ben64> sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:44] <Reptilia> "No proprietary drivers are in use". Maybe this is the reason why do i get a sluggish performance. Can someone give me an advice, should i go to the official ATI website and download the latest drivers or there are other options available?
[23:44] <Seven_Six_Two> you don't need sudo iirc
[23:44] <ianorlin> you do
[23:44] <hroi> Ben64,  so that command will go to 14.04 and not to14.10?
[23:44] <Ben64> hroi: correct
[23:44] <Ben64> !ati | Reptilia
[23:45] <Reptilia> thanks
[23:45] <hroi> Ben64,   thanks.
[23:45] <hroi> Ben64,  I sometimes worry about my user accounts
[23:45] <hroi> and home directories...
[23:46] <grrrrraham> hey.. i just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my aunt's PC (she was running XP) and ever since the computer has become very unstable. appears due to the SATA links flapping and becoming unresponsive
[23:46] <grrrrraham> system will hang and there are lots of ata errors in syslog: http://pastebin.com/Z53px909
[23:46] <grrrrraham> here is dmidecode output: http://pastebin.com/5gG283dY
[23:46] <hroi> is the upgrade process quite solid... - will my users have incorrect environemnt variables and stuff.     old stuff from previous install?
[23:47] <OerHeks> hroi, backup first
[23:47] <grrrrraham> not sure if anyone might have some experience with this main board? and/or these weird errors..
[23:47] <Seven_Six_Two> hroi, I've never had an issue with problems like that.
[23:48] <Reptilia> Lol, Xubuntu firewall is turned OFF by default?
[23:49] <OerHeks> Reptilia, wrong, just no rules set
[23:49] <Reptilia> OerHeks:Thanks
[23:49] <OerHeks> install gufw to control, or learn how to do iptables
[23:58] <daftykins> grrrrraham: have you still got the XP install there?
[23:58] <grrrrraham> daftykins, i do yeah
[23:58] <grrrrraham> i actually installed ubuntu on a new drive
[23:58] <grrrrraham> i replaced that drive thinking it was a bad drive
[23:58] <grrrrraham> and noticed the ata errors show up on the XP disk too
[23:59] <grrrrraham> (when booted in ubuntu)
[23:59] <daftykins> grrrrraham: wise decision - i wouldn't normally suggest such a drastic approach, but have you considered updating the BIOS?
[23:59] <grrrrraham> no sign of issues when using XP.. my aunt says the thing never froze
[23:59] <grrrrraham> yep.. BIOS is fully up to date
[23:59] <daftykins> i've just been to the MSI website and see it only offers a windows utility =/
[23:59] <daftykins> oh right
[23:59] <daftykins> i see it's the nasty VIA K8M890 chipset
[23:59] <grrrrraham> oh
[23:59] <grrrrraham> nasty, eh?