[00:10] <sunbird> the instructions for installing on the nexus10 look pretty straightforward.
[00:10] <sunbird> once it is installed, will any software that works on ubuntu work on the nexus?
[00:11] <sunbird> specifically, i want to use scrivener, which i have working on my install of ubuntu 14.04 no problem.
[00:11] <sunbird> but that is on a lenovo laptop, not a tablet.
[00:20] <Beldar> sunbird, This is touch right?
[00:28] <sunbird> yeah.
[00:29] <sunbird> the thing is, i haven't bought the device yet. because i want to make sure scrivener will work on it or else it's useless to me.
[00:29] <sunbird> well, not useless, but not what i want to use it for.
[00:30] <doflaherty> You *might* have number 2, because it uses QT, which is the supported Ubuntu SDK toolkit, but I don't know which version they are using or if they offer arm binaries
[00:58] <pngo> why contacts.db from phone can not be opened by evolution in my computer?
[01:05] <Beldar> sunbird, If you do not use nicks we are not notified you are addressing us, you want to not expect we are al waiting staring at the screen for your answer. ;)
[01:05] <Beldar> all*
[01:06] <Beldar> I would if I was paid.
[01:07] <sunbird> i'm not sure to whom i should direct my question.
[01:08] <Beldar> sunbird, If you address someone use their nick to preface, as you see my message to you. This is not that you know who to ask but to whom you may answer.
[01:11] <sunbird> Beldar: thanks, i understand how irc works. since this is the first time on this channel, i have no idea whom i should tag to answer my question. do you have any ideas?
[01:11] <Beldar> sunbird, In general you ask the question and hope someone knows. ;)
[01:12] <Beldar> sunbird, If you are a regular here I would think it's okay to png friends
[01:17] <sunbird> yeah, that's the same in channels where i lurk. :)
[01:19] <Beldar> sunbird, If I even still had a short term memory......uh now what was I saying?
[01:19] <Beldar> ;)
[01:24] <saidinesh5> sunbird: they only give out binaries for Scrivener right?
[01:26] <saidinesh5> well if you had to run scrivener via. wine on your desktop ubuntu, chances are it wont work on ubuntu touch
[01:26] <saidinesh5> at least not until wine on arm is usable at least
[01:26] <sunbird> no, there is a .deb
[01:27] <sunbird> saidinesh5: it installed really easy on my machine.
[01:27] <sunbird> but mine is not arm arch, so i guess i need to see if it's compiled for arm or if i can compile.
[01:27] <saidinesh5> sunbird: but desktop .debs can be tied down specifically to the intel architecture
[01:27] <saidinesh5> yep
[01:28] <sunbird> well, that's helpful. thanks saidinesh5.
[01:29] <saidinesh5> :)
[01:29] <sunbird> here's another curveball question - is it possible to partition the ssd? so one could encrypt using luks?
[01:31] <saidinesh5> 1) yes. 2) never tried encryption
[01:31] <saidinesh5> but ssds are no different than normal hard drives
[01:40] <Macer> so is nexus dev ending?
[01:40] <Macer> thought i heard something about that somewhere
[01:41]  * saidinesh5 shrugs
[01:41] <saidinesh5> the multiboot works pretty well for me
[01:57] <vin_> hi all. :)
[01:57] <vin_> does anyone working to port ubuntu touch on LG G2 D802 international model?
[01:58] <vin_> i wan to try it on my phone
[01:58] <vin_> want*
[01:59] <vin_> hi all. :)
[02:03] <vin_> [09:57] <vin_> hi all. :) [09:57] <vin_> does anyone working to port ubuntu touch on LG G2 D802 international model? [09:58] <vin_> i want to try it on my phone
[02:10] <Kitojazz> Hello, i need help with adb command because does not recognize my android device, my device is a chinese tablet ..... i have put into a file this line : "SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="10d6", ATTR{idProduct}=="0c02", MODE="0600", OWNER="kito""
[02:11] <Kitojazz> in the file located in /etc/udev/rules.d
[02:11] <Kitojazz> Anyone can helpme
[02:20] <sunbird> anyone like or hate the nexus7? thinking about getting one. that or the 10. but i think i'd rather have the smaller one.
[02:28] <Beldar> sunbird, It is alright if ruuning android.
[02:28] <Beldar> an opinion yes sunbird
[02:30] <Beldar> sunbird, If I could get lubuntu or an even lighter linux I would use the nexus 7 for it.
[02:33] <sunbird> Beldar: so ubuntu  touch on nexus7 = not great?
[02:37] <Beldar> sunbird, It is a bit rough, and for a phone, so really depends on your needs I suppose.
[02:38] <Beldar> sunbird, There is a multi booter app that allows you to run touch and android as many as you can fit in. So you can test without wiping.
[02:39] <Beldar> I would like a ubuntu phone that docks the full OS though.
[02:43] <Beldar> sunbird, At some point we probably will see the full ubuntu phone that docks with the desktop as advertised, at least I hope so.
[02:46] <sunbird> Beldar: good info. guess i'll wait a bit then.
[03:02] <saidinesh5> sunbird: i love the nexus 7
[03:02] <saidinesh5> dont go for the nexus 10
[03:02] <saidinesh5> defeats the purpose of having a tablet
[03:02] <saidinesh5> and is also quite dated now
[03:04] <saidinesh5> nexus 7's best feature is it's really comfy to hold in 1 hand
[03:09] <sunbird> so nexus7 running android. or dual boot?
[03:09] <sunbird> maybe dual boot would be best.
[03:14] <pngo> anyone has ssh problem?
[03:23] <sunbird> pngo: can you be more specific?
[03:34] <saidinesh5> sunbird: android + ubuntu touch
[03:34] <saidinesh5> dualboot
 well, I'm trying to ssh to my phone and I get error Permission denied (publickey).
[03:34] <saidinesh5> installation was such a breeze too
[03:35] <saidinesh5> sunbird: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
 it looks like addressAuthorize does not work in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
and addressAuthorize is set to yes in my configs
 it is: PasswordAuthentication yes not addressAuthorize. sorry
[03:53] <sunbird> pngo: hrm. could you pastebin your sshd_config?
 I already reinstalled ubuntu, but same problem. I will install stable ver. and see if that will help.
[03:56] <sunbird> pngo: PasswordAuthentication yes should do it. :\
[03:56] <sunbird> pngo: what error do you get on the client side?
  Permission denied (publickey)
[03:57] <sunbird> i suppose you could put PubkeyAuthentication no
[03:58] <sunbird> but that shouldn't be necessary as it should try all methods if you have PasswordAuthentication yes
[03:58] <sunbird> there's not a # in front or anything, right? ;)
 I changed that too and than I got error too saying that there was too may login error.
[03:59] <sunbird> pngo: if there is a # in front, it tells sshd: Ignore this, it is a comment.
 I just install new image of dev image and error is still there.
[03:59] <sunbird> pngo: are you certain you know your password on the remote system?
 I tried both ways
 I uploaded public key to the phone and than login works
[04:00] <sunbird> pngo: public key is better anyway.
 but I want password
 if I want to ssh from another computer that has no key, that will create a problem for me
I will install stable image and see if that helps
[04:03] <sunbird> pngo: if you are failing at the password three times, the ssh connection is working fine. either there is something causing your pw to be incorrect when you type it in (like a keyboard problem with special characters?) or the pw is incorrect.
 I'm trying to connect via my computer terminal
 password is phablet.
[04:05] <sunbird> pngo: you've got to be kidding me. don't post your password anywhere ever.
 this is default phone settings. everyone knows that
[04:06] <pngo> user phablet password phablet
[04:07] <sunbird> pngo: oh! sorry! i haven't ever installed touch.
[04:07] <sunbird> just thinking about doing it! :)
[04:07] <pngo> oh ok.
[04:07] <sunbird> i am mystified by your problem. sorry.
 I just installed stable image and ssh works as expected.
[04:11] <sunbird> pngo: ah, good. :)
[04:11] <pngo> can someone tell me where I can file a bug?
[04:12] <pngo> I think it is more ssh than ubuntu bug.
[04:12] <Beldar> !bugs
[04:13] <Beldar> in de bot
[05:11] <pngo> why phone evolution (contacts.db) is not compatible with computer evolution?
[05:25] <sunbird> okay, just bought a nexus7. :)
[05:28] <saidinesh5> wow
[05:28] <saidinesh5> that was fast
[05:28] <saidinesh5> sunbird: which one? 2013 or 2012?
[05:28] <sunbird> 2013.
[05:28] <saidinesh5> oh cool
[05:28] <sunbird> had some gift cards and getting ready for an interational trip.
[05:28] <sunbird> international that is.
[05:29] <saidinesh5> Oh?
[05:29] <sunbird> although an inter-rational trip would be pretty fun too.
[05:29] <saidinesh5> define international :P
[05:29] <saidinesh5> hehe good one
[05:29] <sunbird> usa-europe.
[05:29] <saidinesh5> Ahh
[05:29] <sunbird> will have a couple long flights, so will be nice to have a tablet.
[05:29] <saidinesh5> mhm.... thats the one thing i really liked the tablet
[05:30] <saidinesh5> sunbird: btw. don't go for that weird foldable cover
[05:30] <saidinesh5> its worthless
[05:30] <sunbird> hmmm good to know.
[05:30] <sunbird> i hope it will just be usable as is. don't really want to spend any money on anything else.
[05:31] <saidinesh5> after a while it jjust wont even fold
[05:31] <saidinesh5> oh it is
[05:31] <saidinesh5> just bought a cover for it last week cuz i keep throwing it around and i dont quite trust the gorilla glass
[05:31] <saidinesh5> although i havent  seen a scratch on it so far
[05:32] <saidinesh5> but just for the dust and better protection i guess...
[05:32] <saidinesh5> http://img5a.flixcart.com/image/cases-covers/flip/g/w/p/aps-360-rotating-smart-leather-case-for-nexus-7-2nd-gen-2013-400x400-imadqsxx8shadbzm.jpeg
[05:32] <saidinesh5> this one
[05:33] <saidinesh5> the only usable cover i found so far
[05:34]  * sunbird looks
[05:38] <sunbird> saidinesh5: need picture, but where is more info about it?
[05:38] <saidinesh5> oh my bad
[05:38] <saidinesh5> hold
[05:39] <saidinesh5> http://www.ebay.com/itm/360-Rotating-Leather-Smart-Case-Cover-Stand-For-Asus-Google-Nexus-7-2nd-2013-/350950743724?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Cases_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&var=&hash=item51b64b5eac
[05:39] <saidinesh5> i think its this one
[05:40] <saidinesh5> when i bought it it was around 7USD
[05:40] <saidinesh5> damn the pricess drop like anything
[05:42] <sunbird> haha, only if you want black. any of the colors cost $6.59.
[05:42] <sunbird> usd
[05:42] <saidinesh5> Ahh i bought the black one :|
[05:43] <saidinesh5> anyhow no regrets ... there were alternative costlier ones for around $20ish i think
[05:43] <saidinesh5> thankfully didn't fall for them
[05:45] <sunbird> so the whole reason i came here is because i bought a surface pro for my spouse.
[05:45] <saidinesh5> Oh?
[05:45] <sunbird> before you throw tomatos: she needs to run scrivener because she is a writer.
[05:45] <saidinesh5> how is it?
[05:46] <sunbird> _and_ she has an external keyboard that is usb powered that she has to use for health issues.
[05:46] <saidinesh5> i ve heard nice things about surface pro.. just not about its cost though
[05:46] <saidinesh5> Ahh
[05:46] <sunbird> we originally wanted an ipad because scrivener has a version for mac.
[05:46] <sunbird> but apple's stupied "no usb" policy means it won't work for us.
[05:47] <sunbird> so we went with the surface pro. it was a NIGHTMARE!
[05:47] <sunbird> out of the box, it basically was nonfunctional. super slow. running windose 8.0.
[05:47] <saidinesh5> meh @ ipad
[05:47] <sunbird> once i ran all the software updates (which took 8 hours), it was more functional.
[05:47] <sunbird> but the ui is awful!
[05:47] <saidinesh5> also sunbird i was quite happy with the bluetooth keyboard for my older nexus 7
[05:48] <sunbird> yeah, i like bt keyboards, but she needs a particular keyboard, and they only make a usb version.
[05:48] <sunbird> which is too bad. :(
[05:48] <saidinesh5> oh
[05:48] <saidinesh5> nexus 7 even does usb
[05:48] <saidinesh5> i mean its linux afterall :)
[05:48] <sunbird> anyway, i'm getting the nexus to experiment with and to see if i can get scrivener working... which i may not be able to.
[05:48] <saidinesh5> have to try out a usb variant though
[05:48] <saidinesh5> Ahh
[05:49] <saidinesh5> nope but there migth be some alternative webapp for that?
[05:50] <saidinesh5> or you can bug the sccrivener guys about the arm release....
[05:50] <saidinesh5> afterall its a qt app
[05:50] <sunbird> yeah.
[07:07] <elopio> Mirv: thanks for the link
[07:09] <Mirv> np
[08:01] <thomi> jdstrand: a gentle reminder to review sphinxcontrib-youtube for me when you get a moment :)
[08:06] <dobey> cantstanya: chat is french for cat.
[08:22] <Saviq> rsalveti, hey, could we ask you for a quick look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/qtubuntu/greeter-is-shell/+merge/220543 please?
[08:30] <rsalveti> Saviq: sure
[08:41] <tiiongtsu> target thumb C++: libmedia_compat_layer <= ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/decoding_service.cpp
[08:41] <tiiongtsu> In file included from ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/decoding_service_priv.h:22:0,
[08:41] <tiiongtsu>                  from ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/decoding_service.cpp:25:
[08:41] <tiiongtsu> ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/surface_texture_client_hybris_priv.h:30:28: fatal error: gui/GLConsumer.h: No such file or directory
[08:41] <tiiongtsu> compilation terminated.
[08:41] <tiiongtsu> make: *** [/home/tiiongtsu/trusty/out/target/product/galaxysl/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libmedia_compat_layer_intermediates/decoding_service.o]error 1
[08:41] <tiiongtsu> anyone faced this error when porting ubuntu touch
[08:44] <piiramar> tiiongtsu: not porting but I sed that even in mako builds. I reverted the problematic component (in ubuntu/libhybris) to a version that's ca. a week older
[08:44] <piiramar> git checkout debian/0.1.0+git20131207+e452e83-0ubuntu12
[08:44] <piiramar> "I sed" = "I see"
[08:47] <piiramar> ok just checked my notes, I don't see the /exact/ same error, but a similar one in the same source file
[08:47] <piiramar> ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/decoding_service.cpp:37:36: fatal error: gui/GraphicBufferAlloc.h: No such file or directory
[08:49] <tiiongtsu> yep ,both GraphicBufferAlloc.h and GLConsumer.h isn't exist in /frameworks/native/gui
[09:13] <piiramar> jhodapp_: rsalveti: apparently there is something about libhybris commit 6b6aabfce58511d13ebeb68d207d8a75826e26a8 that breaks compilation (at least for tiiongtsu and me, and reverting it worked fine for both of us). Is that a genuine bug, or am I missing some step in the build setup or so?
[09:16] <jhodapp> piiramar, no idea offhand, would have to check it out...what does that commit include from the log?
[09:17] <mpt> charles, where does bug 1320877 belong? I’m 99% sure it doesn’t belong to indicator-datetime
[09:18] <piiramar> jhodapp: it's "Add media-hub support (out of process video decoding)", which adds decoding_service.cpp, which causes issues
[09:18] <charles> mpt: actually, for now it probably does belong in datetime
[09:19] <piiramar> jhodapp: as it uses several header includes that don't resolve
[09:19] <charles> mpt, I'll annotate the ticket but short answer is i-datetime will be changing how it invokes the sound
[09:19] <mpt> huh
[09:19] <mpt> I am the One Percent
[09:19] <jhodapp> piiramar, that code is released, so it does compile
[09:20] <piiramar> jhodapp: I'm a total ubuntu touch newbie, and just following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building (same goes for tiiongtsu). is it maybe a problem with the bootstrap or any other script then?
[09:20] <jhodapp> piiramar, are you trying to compile up to that revision, or up to the latest master branch revision?
[09:21] <piiramar> I just ran 'phablet-dev-bootstrap -v mako' and didn't touch any versions/branches/tags manually
[09:21] <charles> mpt, after indicator-datetime fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1283065 changes from canberra to our own media API, if the play still stutters then it will be ricmm's problem ;-)
[09:22] <piiramar> jhodapp: and it's the only compilation error I get, solved by reverting libhybris a bit
[09:23] <jhodapp> piiramar, that's odd
[09:24] <piiramar> jhodapp: I sync'd last week so of course I can just try again. no idea how stable or volatile that source tree is supposed to be
[09:24] <jhodapp> piiramar, it doesn't change all that often
[09:24] <piiramar> ok
[09:25] <jhodapp> piiramar, go into the root of your android dir and type "repo sync"
[09:25] <piiramar> yes, I'll try
[09:29] <mpt> charles, so there will be two APIs for playing audio on the phone?
[09:41] <javigon> Hi. Which kernel will be running in the ubuntu phone. Will it be support for LSM modules (e.g., apparmor)?
[09:41] <charles> mpt, no; once we start using the media API we'll drop the canberra
[09:41] <mpt> good good
[09:42] <popey> it uses apparmor by default, yes javigon, the specifics of what bits of apparmor it uses are a good question for jdstrand
[09:43] <charles> which reminds me, ricmm, what's the status of the media API? Can indicator-datetime use it now to play the wakeup alarm's sounds?
[09:43] <javigon> popey: Thanks! I am interested in knowing the support that userland apps will get from the kernel. Apparmor was an example.
[09:43] <jjohansen> javigon: the ubuntu kernel for a device, is a port of the android kernel for that device, so that the device drivers provided can be used
[09:43] <jjohansen> javigon: we backport current apparmor to those kernels
[09:44] <popey> javigon: well, the device currently uses 3.4.0-5
[09:45] <jjohansen> javigon: so in apparmors case we are using the most up to date apparmor that we can for phones, I can point you at git backport trees in you are interested in them
[09:45] <javigon> Is there any plan for full kernel support, i.e., not android modified kernels?
[09:45] <javigon> jjohansen: I would love too.
[09:45] <popey> javigon: we need to use some android kernel drivers for hardware support.
[09:46] <javigon> jjohansen: what does it take to get a LSM inside of your tree base? I guess that you are using different mailin-list and patches that the main kernel.
[09:46] <javigon> popey: makes sense :)
[09:46] <jjohansen> javigon: okay, I tend to keep 2 branches for a given kernel, a backport presquash, with the individual changes for the backport broken out, and a squash of all the apparmor backport changes
[09:47] <jjohansen> javigon: we try to keep the LSM that ships with the kernel. That may mean turning on the config
[09:48] <jjohansen> javigon: so to get an LSM into the Canonical tree?
[09:48] <jjohansen> javigon: that requires filing a features bug and working through the people who make the decision on whether it should be included
[09:49] <javigon> jjohansen: We are developing a LSM for trusted storage. We are testing it using the main kernel but need time to make a RFC commit.
[09:49] <jjohansen> javigon: we try to stick to upstream, + a limited set of sauce patches. The goal being to not deviate more than necessary. For the phone kernels, that means we can't break the abi for the binary drivers
[09:49] <javigon> jjohansen: I was wondering which was the effort of porting it to the Canonical tree, and if it is possible to get access to the git repo to test directly in a mobile device using ubuntu
[09:51] <javigon> jjohansen: That's the way to go :)
[09:51] <jjohansen> javigon: sure, we keep branches for the different devices we support. And you can patch, and build those kernels and manually install on a device
[09:52] <javigon> jjohansen: Can you point me to the repository? Also, which device do you recommend for testing?
[09:53] <javigon> jjohansen: To put you in context, we come from FPGA (zynq-7000) developer board, so we are looking for a platform that is likely to go mainstream
[09:53] <jjohansen> javigon: so I have a tree at git://kernel.ubuntu.com/jj/ubuntu-trusty.git, look for branches like goldfish-aa3-backport-presquash
[09:54] <jjohansen> <android kernel codename>-aa3-backport-presuqash
[09:54] <javigon> jjohansen: Super, thanks!
[09:54] <jjohansen> that shows how the backport is done
[09:54] <jjohansen> basically the first patch is a snapshot of the apparmor dir, copied over that kernels apparmor
[09:55] <jjohansen> and then a series of backport patches on top to make it work
[09:55] <jjohansen> javigon: note, I am in the process of working on updates for those trees
[09:55] <javigon> jjohansen: It is a perfect start, just what I was looking for. I will fetch regularly then :)
[09:55] <jjohansen> javigon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/AppArmorForPhabletKernels
[09:56] <jjohansen> provides a little more detail
[09:56] <javigon> jjohansen: thanks!
[09:57] <jjohansen> javigon: if you are using utopic (devel) the x86 emulator works okay, and then you don't need a device, otherwise I would recommend sticking with nexus 4, or nexus 10
[09:57] <jjohansen> or uhm the newer nexus 7 (Flo)
[09:57] <javigon> jjohansen: Aiming at a demo, so hw is almost necessary. Awesome!
[09:58] <javigon> jjohansen, popey: Thanks a lot for helping! :)
[09:58] <popey> np
[09:58] <jjohansen> the older nexus 7 (grouper) and galaxy nexus (maguro) are not supported by current ubuntu images
[09:58] <jjohansen> javigon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[09:59] <javigon> good to know!
[10:01] <robotfuel> How do I set the performance overlay? (make the tap on the screen 4 times show data)
[10:02] <javigon> Any idea if TrustZone will be more accesible?
[10:03] <tiiongtsu> follow the porting guide ,I success build a zip,but after flash ,recovery no longer work,replace the boot.img with $out/android-boot.img ,recovery works,but get a bootloop,it can't boot into system
[10:03] <tiiongtsu> how to do with this
[10:04] <popey> robotfuel: there's a funky environment variable for that. PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY
[10:05] <popey> robotfuel: PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 in fact
[10:05] <popey> -> afk
[10:09] <piiramar> jhodapp: I synced, cleaned and rebuilt, and run into the same thing still: there are headers missing that decoding_service.cpp needs. One observation is that my source tree uses the 'native' headers from Cyanogenmod ( https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_native.git;a=tree;f=include/gui;h=8c279e9946e6c1da68dfd5921cfde84b44c539c5;hb=5d7499bc9ad4a7cf3bc2a03c2e4ae620daa3d719 ) ,
[10:09] <piiramar> which has a few files missing compared to AOSP ( https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/native/+/master/include/gui/ )
[10:11] <piiramar> jhodapp__: ^^
[10:40] <oSoMoN> Mirv, hey, can I have a silo for line 34 ?
[10:58] <Mirv> oSoMoN: done, landing-011
[10:58] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[10:58] <popey> Kaleo: how do you set PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY permanently on?
[10:59] <Kaleo> popey, add it to /etc/environment
[10:59] <popey> ta
[10:59] <popey> readonly..
[10:59] <Kaleo> popey, phablet-config writable-image
[10:59] <popey> nah
[10:59] <popey> i dont want to go rw on this phone
[10:59] <popey> oh, I can put it in ~/.profile
[11:00] <dpm> charles, tedg, could one of you help me setting up the translations for indicator-location?
[11:00] <dpm> charles, tedg, it shouldn't take more than a few seconds, it's about going to https://translations.launchpad.net/indicator-location/14.10/+link-translations-branch
[11:00] <Kaleo> popey, if that works brendand will be happy
[11:00] <dpm> and setting it to ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-location/trunk.14.10
[11:01] <popey> Kaleo: sergio suggested also initctl set-env PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 as the phablet user
[11:01] <Kaleo> popey, ok
[11:02] <popey> didnt work here
[11:03] <popey> Kaleo: adding to /home/phablet/.profile works here
[11:03] <popey> thank you!
[11:03] <Kaleo> great
[11:04] <popey> got something to play with today ☻
[11:04] <Kaleo> :D
[11:04] <Kaleo> popey, once zbenjamin has fixed a few things in QtCreator we will try to sit down with each app dev
[11:04] <Kaleo> popey, to make sure QtCreator works for them
[11:04] <Kaleo> popey, and help profiling if needed
[11:05] <popey> bug 1302713
[11:05] <popey> ☻
[11:05] <Kaleo> popey, nice one
[11:05] <popey> that will help
[11:06] <popey> balloons: do you know if we can run calendar tests now?
[11:06] <popey> I'd love to push a new calendar to the store after all the hard work the guys did last week - not least vomit removal
[11:07] <zbenjamin> Kaleo: working on that, but there is still a blocker in apparmor that prevents me from finishing it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click-apparmor/+bug/1323233
[11:07] <Kaleo> zbenjamin, oki
[11:08] <zbenjamin> Kaleo: fyi thats the last thing that needs to be sorted out, everything else seems to work fine.
[11:09] <Kaleo> zbenjamin, beautiful
[11:09] <Kaleo> zbenjamin, do you know who to push for getting the apparmor stuff resolved?
[11:10] <zbenjamin> i was talking to sarnold
[11:10] <zbenjamin> he said if jamie has enough time it might be sorted out in the next few days but he doesn't know exactly
[12:19] <ogra_> cyphermox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7257464/
[12:29] <charles> dpm, so all you needed was me or ted to go to https://translations.launchpad.net/indicator-location/14.10/+link-translations-branch and hit 'update'?
[12:29] <charles> dpm, if so, done
[12:31] <dpm> charles, excellent, thanks! Also, I noticed that the .pot file is not committed: I sent an e-mail about it, but essentially, all that is needed is to run 'intltool-update -p -g indicator-location' inside the po folder and commit the file. Could you help with that too?
[12:55] <rsalveti> Saviq: mind checking https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/unity8/workaround_no_scopes_emulator/+merge/220337 ?
[12:56] <Saviq> rsalveti, will to get through this today
[12:56] <rsalveti> Saviq: thanks
[12:58] <Saviq> +try
[12:58] <Saviq> ;)
[13:12] <oSoMoN> Mirv, can I have a silo for line 35?
[13:13] <Tassadar> stgraber: hi, did you see comment #7 on bug 1286542?
[13:13] <Tassadar> (assuming you're not on vacation anymore)
[14:26] <Saviq> ricmm, Kaleo, yeah, I wasn't there this morning
[14:26] <Saviq> ricmm, and looks like there's a leftover "Application startup" in the Events calendar...
[14:26] <Saviq> probably invalid by now
[14:27] <Saviq> jjohansen, hey, we've been told you were looking into the lxc test issues, do you have any ETA?
[14:28] <jjohansen> Saviq: hopefully, today some time. I've got to build a kernel and do testing so probably later into the evening
[14:29] <ricmm> Saviq I'll walk you through it
[14:29] <jjohansen> Saviq: then I need to push to the kt
[14:30] <Saviq> jjohansen, awesome, thanks
[14:30] <Saviq> mterry_, ↑
[14:30]  * mterry_ hugs jjohansen
[14:30] <Saviq> ricmm, now? where you at?
[14:42] <ricmm> Saviq: not now
[14:44] <Saviq> ricmm, ok, lemme know
[14:46] <dednick> charles: what's the state of the transfer indicator?
[14:57] <Macer> hm. can't really find much information on an actual ubuntu phone release date :/
[15:00] <t1mp> Macer: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/02/19/canonical-announces-first-partners-to-ship-ubuntu-phones-around-the-globe/
[15:00] <t1mp> Macer: that page says 2014, I don't think more specific dates are available
[15:10] <Macer> yeah i saw that. ah well. guess i'll just wait.
[15:10] <Macer> heh
[15:10] <Macer> i'm sure they'll be sold out for like a year :/
[15:11] <Macer> i just hope someone makes one with a hw qwerty heh
[15:11] <Macer> t1mp: plus that's on ubuntu.com.. could just be propaganda :D
[15:12] <Macer> it's like going to whitehouse.gov and trying to find an article that says obama did something bad hehe
[15:15] <t1mp> Macer: well, as long as a date is not announced by Ubuntu/Canonical, I would not even trust it when it is on another website
[15:17] <Macer> i know. i'm just joking.
[16:00] <jgdxx> are there any designs for feedback on tap for e.g. the back button in the bottom panel?
[19:29] <peto> hi, can you help me with edit manifest.xml for n7000 ?
[19:36] <n4uah> hello ineed some help at ubuntu-touch
[19:37] <zach2825> im so impressed with ubuntu touch!
[19:37] <n4uah> did u tryed it?
[19:38] <zach2825> just right now. got it installed. what issues are you having?
[19:38] <n4uah> its about the device.
[19:38] <n4uah> :(
[19:39] <n4uah> want to port the ubuntu-touch
[19:39] <zach2825> which device?
[19:40] <n4uah> gt-s7582
[19:40] <n4uah> :D
[19:41] <zach2825> galaxy s2? it looks like theys already been started on porting.. but, they can't get the phone calls to work
[19:42] <n4uah> nop
[19:42] <n4uah> the s duos 2
[19:43] <n4uah> :'(
[19:43] <n4uah> they didnt startd.
[19:44] <peto> can you help me with edit manifest on n7000?
[19:44] <zach2825> oh, sorry i googled it. it looks similar. i wish i knew more about that process
[19:54] <peto> can i use revision stable/cm-11.0 ?
[19:56] <peto> pls help
[20:17] <meek_geek> hi
[20:18] <meek_geek> i want to wipe windows from a gifted laptop and install ubuntu
[20:18] <meek_geek> but I do not like unity
[20:18] <meek_geek> So i m wondering if Ubuntu has optimized Touch only for Unity or does it work very well with xfce/gnome as well ?
[20:18] <Beldar> meek_geek, YOU are really mixed up for ubuntu use #ubuntu for touch use this chanel, do you know the difference?
[20:19] <Beldar> touch is a phone platform
[20:19] <meek_geek> Beldar, wtf ?
[20:19] <meek_geek> u send me from ubuntu to here!
[20:20] <Beldar> meek_geek, Do not swear, you are mixing OS's I'm trying to understand you needs.
[20:20] <Beldar> your
[20:20] <meek_geek> Beldar, I m talking about ubuntu on laptops with touchscreen
[20:21] <meek_geek> where would that go ?
[20:21] <Beldar> meek_geek, #ubuntu
[20:21] <Beldar> sorry for any mixup ;)
[20:22] <meek_geek> Beldar, np do you have touch laptops ?
[20:22] <Beldar> meek_geek, No not yet, just a nexus 7
[20:23]  * Beldar needs to cut back on the caffeine
[20:23] <meek_geek> oh
[20:24] <meek_geek> Beldar, are you a dev ?
[20:24] <Beldar> meek_geek, No just an arm chair user, a bit to much free tome is all.
[20:24] <Beldar> time*
[20:25] <meek_geek> do you like unity ?
[20:26] <Beldar> meek_geek, I use the gnome-shell, there are like 50 desktops to choose from
[20:26] <meek_geek> oh wow
[20:27] <meek_geek> What do you mean ? lol
[20:27] <Beldar> meek_geek, unity is a desktop, so is xubuntu, openbox, lubuntu, kubuntu.......etc
[20:28] <Beldar> meek_geek, If you had a linux server you would be just using the terminal, the dektop is the gui on top
[20:28] <Beldar> desktop*
[20:28] <meek_geek> So you mean DE/WM ?
[20:29] <meek_geek> I love Gnome and Xfce
[20:29] <Beldar> meek_geek DE is short for desktop, and some have a window manager yes
[20:29] <Beldar> meek_geek, we are offtopic here try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:32] <meek_geek> ok
[20:58] <mile123> http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/List_of_Secure_Instant_Messengers
[22:40] <daker> t1mp: hi
[22:40] <daker> t1mp: do you have any docs/spec for the new header ?
[22:45] <t1mp> daker: these are the most up-to-date specs that I have from design: http://design.canonical.com/2014/03/new-apps-header/
[22:46] <t1mp> daker: and here is the qml API that we are discussing for Ubuntu.Components https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1wUUKtPmRmwbUELC1BUB9l0VOAwS_zAPRSCqMopUxR1c/edit#heading=h.yv1xue68vkeu
[22:47] <daker> t1mp: ok, that doc will be very helpful
[22:47] <daker> thanks!