[00:10] the instructions for installing on the nexus10 look pretty straightforward. [00:10] once it is installed, will any software that works on ubuntu work on the nexus? [00:11] specifically, i want to use scrivener, which i have working on my install of ubuntu 14.04 no problem. [00:11] but that is on a lenovo laptop, not a tablet. [00:20] sunbird, This is touch right? [00:28] yeah. [00:29] the thing is, i haven't bought the device yet. because i want to make sure scrivener will work on it or else it's useless to me. [00:29] well, not useless, but not what i want to use it for. [00:30] You *might* have number 2, because it uses QT, which is the supported Ubuntu SDK toolkit, but I don't know which version they are using or if they offer arm binaries [00:58] why contacts.db from phone can not be opened by evolution in my computer? [01:05] sunbird, If you do not use nicks we are not notified you are addressing us, you want to not expect we are al waiting staring at the screen for your answer. ;) [01:05] all* [01:06] I would if I was paid. [01:07] i'm not sure to whom i should direct my question. [01:08] sunbird, If you address someone use their nick to preface, as you see my message to you. This is not that you know who to ask but to whom you may answer. [01:11] Beldar: thanks, i understand how irc works. since this is the first time on this channel, i have no idea whom i should tag to answer my question. do you have any ideas? [01:11] sunbird, In general you ask the question and hope someone knows. ;) [01:12] sunbird, If you are a regular here I would think it's okay to png friends [01:17] yeah, that's the same in channels where i lurk. :) [01:19] sunbird, If I even still had a short term memory......uh now what was I saying? [01:19] ;) [01:24] sunbird: they only give out binaries for Scrivener right? [01:26] well if you had to run scrivener via. wine on your desktop ubuntu, chances are it wont work on ubuntu touch [01:26] at least not until wine on arm is usable at least [01:26] no, there is a .deb [01:27] saidinesh5: it installed really easy on my machine. [01:27] but mine is not arm arch, so i guess i need to see if it's compiled for arm or if i can compile. [01:27] sunbird: but desktop .debs can be tied down specifically to the intel architecture [01:27] yep [01:28] well, that's helpful. thanks saidinesh5. [01:29] :) [01:29] here's another curveball question - is it possible to partition the ssd? so one could encrypt using luks? [01:31] 1) yes. 2) never tried encryption [01:31] but ssds are no different than normal hard drives [01:40] so is nexus dev ending? [01:40] thought i heard something about that somewhere [01:41] * saidinesh5 shrugs [01:41] the multiboot works pretty well for me [01:57] hi all. :) [01:57] does anyone working to port ubuntu touch on LG G2 D802 international model? [01:58] i wan to try it on my phone [01:58] want* [01:59] hi all. :) === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [02:03] [09:57] hi all. :) [09:57] does anyone working to port ubuntu touch on LG G2 D802 international model? [09:58] i want to try it on my phone [02:10] Hello, i need help with adb command because does not recognize my android device, my device is a chinese tablet ..... i have put into a file this line : "SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="10d6", ATTR{idProduct}=="0c02", MODE="0600", OWNER="kito"" [02:11] in the file located in /etc/udev/rules.d [02:11] Anyone can helpme [02:20] anyone like or hate the nexus7? thinking about getting one. that or the 10. but i think i'd rather have the smaller one. [02:28] sunbird, It is alright if ruuning android. [02:28] an opinion yes sunbird [02:30] sunbird, If I could get lubuntu or an even lighter linux I would use the nexus 7 for it. [02:33] Beldar: so ubuntu touch on nexus7 = not great? [02:37] sunbird, It is a bit rough, and for a phone, so really depends on your needs I suppose. [02:38] sunbird, There is a multi booter app that allows you to run touch and android as many as you can fit in. So you can test without wiping. [02:39] I would like a ubuntu phone that docks the full OS though. [02:43] sunbird, At some point we probably will see the full ubuntu phone that docks with the desktop as advertised, at least I hope so. [02:46] Beldar: good info. guess i'll wait a bit then. === vying is now known as Guest39088 [03:02] sunbird: i love the nexus 7 [03:02] dont go for the nexus 10 [03:02] defeats the purpose of having a tablet [03:02] and is also quite dated now [03:04] nexus 7's best feature is it's really comfy to hold in 1 hand [03:09] so nexus7 running android. or dual boot? [03:09] maybe dual boot would be best. [03:14] anyone has ssh problem? [03:23] pngo: can you be more specific? [03:34] sunbird: android + ubuntu touch [03:34] dualboot [03:34] well, I'm trying to ssh to my phone and I get error Permission denied (publickey). [03:34] installation was such a breeze too [03:35] sunbird: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403 [03:37] it looks like addressAuthorize does not work in /etc/ssh/sshd_config [03:38] and addressAuthorize is set to yes in my configs [03:40] : it is: PasswordAuthentication yes not addressAuthorize. sorry [03:53] pngo: hrm. could you pastebin your sshd_config? [03:55] I already reinstalled ubuntu, but same problem. I will install stable ver. and see if that will help. [03:56] pngo: PasswordAuthentication yes should do it. :\ [03:56] pngo: what error do you get on the client side? [03:57] Permission denied (publickey) [03:57] i suppose you could put PubkeyAuthentication no [03:58] but that shouldn't be necessary as it should try all methods if you have PasswordAuthentication yes [03:58] there's not a # in front or anything, right? ;) [03:58] I changed that too and than I got error too saying that there was too may login error. [03:59] pngo: if there is a # in front, it tells sshd: Ignore this, it is a comment. [03:59] I just install new image of dev image and error is still there. [03:59] pngo: are you certain you know your password on the remote system? [04:00] I tried both ways [04:00] I uploaded public key to the phone and than login works [04:00] pngo: public key is better anyway. [04:01] but I want password [04:02] if I want to ssh from another computer that has no key, that will create a problem for me [04:03] I will install stable image and see if that helps [04:03] pngo: if you are failing at the password three times, the ssh connection is working fine. either there is something causing your pw to be incorrect when you type it in (like a keyboard problem with special characters?) or the pw is incorrect. [04:04] I'm trying to connect via my computer terminal [04:05] password is phablet. [04:05] pngo: you've got to be kidding me. don't post your password anywhere ever. [04:06] this is default phone settings. everyone knows that [04:06] user phablet password phablet [04:07] pngo: oh! sorry! i haven't ever installed touch. [04:07] just thinking about doing it! :) [04:07] oh ok. [04:07] i am mystified by your problem. sorry. [04:11] I just installed stable image and ssh works as expected. [04:11] pngo: ah, good. :) [04:11] can someone tell me where I can file a bug? [04:12] I think it is more ssh than ubuntu bug. [04:12] !bugs [04:12] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [04:13] in de bot === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:11] why phone evolution (contacts.db) is not compatible with computer evolution? [05:25] okay, just bought a nexus7. :) === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [05:28] wow [05:28] that was fast [05:28] sunbird: which one? 2013 or 2012? [05:28] 2013. [05:28] oh cool [05:28] had some gift cards and getting ready for an interational trip. [05:28] international that is. [05:29] Oh? [05:29] although an inter-rational trip would be pretty fun too. [05:29] define international :P [05:29] hehe good one [05:29] usa-europe. [05:29] Ahh [05:29] will have a couple long flights, so will be nice to have a tablet. [05:29] mhm.... thats the one thing i really liked the tablet [05:30] sunbird: btw. don't go for that weird foldable cover [05:30] its worthless [05:30] hmmm good to know. [05:30] i hope it will just be usable as is. don't really want to spend any money on anything else. [05:31] after a while it jjust wont even fold [05:31] oh it is [05:31] just bought a cover for it last week cuz i keep throwing it around and i dont quite trust the gorilla glass [05:31] although i havent seen a scratch on it so far [05:32] but just for the dust and better protection i guess... [05:32] http://img5a.flixcart.com/image/cases-covers/flip/g/w/p/aps-360-rotating-smart-leather-case-for-nexus-7-2nd-gen-2013-400x400-imadqsxx8shadbzm.jpeg [05:32] this one [05:33] the only usable cover i found so far [05:34] * sunbird looks === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [05:38] saidinesh5: need picture, but where is more info about it? [05:38] oh my bad [05:38] hold [05:39] http://www.ebay.com/itm/360-Rotating-Leather-Smart-Case-Cover-Stand-For-Asus-Google-Nexus-7-2nd-2013-/350950743724?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Cases_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&var=&hash=item51b64b5eac [05:39] i think its this one [05:40] when i bought it it was around 7USD [05:40] damn the pricess drop like anything [05:42] haha, only if you want black. any of the colors cost $6.59. [05:42] usd [05:42] Ahh i bought the black one :| [05:43] anyhow no regrets ... there were alternative costlier ones for around $20ish i think [05:43] thankfully didn't fall for them [05:45] so the whole reason i came here is because i bought a surface pro for my spouse. [05:45] Oh? [05:45] before you throw tomatos: she needs to run scrivener because she is a writer. [05:45] how is it? [05:46] _and_ she has an external keyboard that is usb powered that she has to use for health issues. [05:46] i ve heard nice things about surface pro.. just not about its cost though [05:46] Ahh [05:46] we originally wanted an ipad because scrivener has a version for mac. [05:46] but apple's stupied "no usb" policy means it won't work for us. [05:47] so we went with the surface pro. it was a NIGHTMARE! [05:47] out of the box, it basically was nonfunctional. super slow. running windose 8.0. [05:47] meh @ ipad [05:47] once i ran all the software updates (which took 8 hours), it was more functional. [05:47] but the ui is awful! [05:47] also sunbird i was quite happy with the bluetooth keyboard for my older nexus 7 [05:48] yeah, i like bt keyboards, but she needs a particular keyboard, and they only make a usb version. [05:48] which is too bad. :( [05:48] oh [05:48] nexus 7 even does usb [05:48] i mean its linux afterall :) [05:48] anyway, i'm getting the nexus to experiment with and to see if i can get scrivener working... which i may not be able to. [05:48] have to try out a usb variant though [05:48] Ahh [05:49] nope but there migth be some alternative webapp for that? [05:50] or you can bug the sccrivener guys about the arm release.... [05:50] afterall its a qt app [05:50] yeah. === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [07:07] Mirv: thanks for the link [07:09] np === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:01] jdstrand: a gentle reminder to review sphinxcontrib-youtube for me when you get a moment :) [08:06] cantstanya: chat is french for cat. === ted is now known as tedg [08:22] rsalveti, hey, could we ask you for a quick look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/qtubuntu/greeter-is-shell/+merge/220543 please? [08:30] Saviq: sure === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [08:41] target thumb C++: libmedia_compat_layer <= ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/decoding_service.cpp [08:41] In file included from ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/decoding_service_priv.h:22:0, [08:41] from ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/decoding_service.cpp:25: [08:41] ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/surface_texture_client_hybris_priv.h:30:28: fatal error: gui/GLConsumer.h: No such file or directory [08:41] compilation terminated. [08:41] make: *** [/home/tiiongtsu/trusty/out/target/product/galaxysl/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libmedia_compat_layer_intermediates/decoding_service.o]error 1 [08:41] anyone faced this error when porting ubuntu touch [08:44] tiiongtsu: not porting but I sed that even in mako builds. I reverted the problematic component (in ubuntu/libhybris) to a version that's ca. a week older [08:44] git checkout debian/0.1.0+git20131207+e452e83-0ubuntu12 [08:44] "I sed" = "I see" [08:47] ok just checked my notes, I don't see the /exact/ same error, but a similar one in the same source file [08:47] ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/decoding_service.cpp:37:36: fatal error: gui/GraphicBufferAlloc.h: No such file or directory [08:49] yep ,both GraphicBufferAlloc.h and GLConsumer.h isn't exist in /frameworks/native/gui === alan_g_ is now known as alan_g [09:13] jhodapp_: rsalveti: apparently there is something about libhybris commit 6b6aabfce58511d13ebeb68d207d8a75826e26a8 that breaks compilation (at least for tiiongtsu and me, and reverting it worked fine for both of us). Is that a genuine bug, or am I missing some step in the build setup or so? === jhodapp_ is now known as jhodapp [09:16] piiramar, no idea offhand, would have to check it out...what does that commit include from the log? [09:17] charles, where does bug 1320877 belong? I’m 99% sure it doesn’t belong to indicator-datetime [09:17] bug 1320877 in Indicator Date and Time "alarm sound sometimes 'stutters'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320877 [09:18] jhodapp: it's "Add media-hub support (out of process video decoding)", which adds decoding_service.cpp, which causes issues [09:18] mpt: actually, for now it probably does belong in datetime [09:19] jhodapp: as it uses several header includes that don't resolve [09:19] mpt, I'll annotate the ticket but short answer is i-datetime will be changing how it invokes the sound [09:19] huh [09:19] I am the One Percent [09:19] piiramar, that code is released, so it does compile [09:20] jhodapp: I'm a total ubuntu touch newbie, and just following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building (same goes for tiiongtsu). is it maybe a problem with the bootstrap or any other script then? [09:20] piiramar, are you trying to compile up to that revision, or up to the latest master branch revision? [09:21] I just ran 'phablet-dev-bootstrap -v mako' and didn't touch any versions/branches/tags manually [09:21] mpt, after indicator-datetime fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1283065 changes from canberra to our own media API, if the play still stutters then it will be ricmm's problem ;-) [09:21] Ubuntu bug 1283065 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Use the existing audio stack to play event sounds" [High,Triaged] [09:22] jhodapp: and it's the only compilation error I get, solved by reverting libhybris a bit [09:23] piiramar, that's odd [09:24] jhodapp: I sync'd last week so of course I can just try again. no idea how stable or volatile that source tree is supposed to be [09:24] piiramar, it doesn't change all that often [09:24] ok [09:25] piiramar, go into the root of your android dir and type "repo sync" [09:25] yes, I'll try [09:29] charles, so there will be two APIs for playing audio on the phone? [09:41] Hi. Which kernel will be running in the ubuntu phone. Will it be support for LSM modules (e.g., apparmor)? [09:41] mpt, no; once we start using the media API we'll drop the canberra [09:41] good good [09:42] it uses apparmor by default, yes javigon, the specifics of what bits of apparmor it uses are a good question for jdstrand [09:43] which reminds me, ricmm, what's the status of the media API? Can indicator-datetime use it now to play the wakeup alarm's sounds? [09:43] popey: Thanks! I am interested in knowing the support that userland apps will get from the kernel. Apparmor was an example. [09:43] javigon: the ubuntu kernel for a device, is a port of the android kernel for that device, so that the device drivers provided can be used [09:43] javigon: we backport current apparmor to those kernels [09:44] javigon: well, the device currently uses 3.4.0-5 [09:45] javigon: so in apparmors case we are using the most up to date apparmor that we can for phones, I can point you at git backport trees in you are interested in them [09:45] Is there any plan for full kernel support, i.e., not android modified kernels? [09:45] jjohansen: I would love too. [09:45] javigon: we need to use some android kernel drivers for hardware support. [09:46] jjohansen: what does it take to get a LSM inside of your tree base? I guess that you are using different mailin-list and patches that the main kernel. [09:46] popey: makes sense :) [09:46] javigon: okay, I tend to keep 2 branches for a given kernel, a backport presquash, with the individual changes for the backport broken out, and a squash of all the apparmor backport changes [09:47] javigon: we try to keep the LSM that ships with the kernel. That may mean turning on the config [09:48] javigon: so to get an LSM into the Canonical tree? [09:48] javigon: that requires filing a features bug and working through the people who make the decision on whether it should be included [09:49] jjohansen: We are developing a LSM for trusted storage. We are testing it using the main kernel but need time to make a RFC commit. [09:49] javigon: we try to stick to upstream, + a limited set of sauce patches. The goal being to not deviate more than necessary. For the phone kernels, that means we can't break the abi for the binary drivers [09:49] jjohansen: I was wondering which was the effort of porting it to the Canonical tree, and if it is possible to get access to the git repo to test directly in a mobile device using ubuntu [09:51] jjohansen: That's the way to go :) [09:51] javigon: sure, we keep branches for the different devices we support. And you can patch, and build those kernels and manually install on a device [09:52] jjohansen: Can you point me to the repository? Also, which device do you recommend for testing? [09:53] jjohansen: To put you in context, we come from FPGA (zynq-7000) developer board, so we are looking for a platform that is likely to go mainstream [09:53] javigon: so I have a tree at git://kernel.ubuntu.com/jj/ubuntu-trusty.git, look for branches like goldfish-aa3-backport-presquash [09:54] -aa3-backport-presuqash [09:54] jjohansen: Super, thanks! [09:54] that shows how the backport is done [09:54] basically the first patch is a snapshot of the apparmor dir, copied over that kernels apparmor [09:55] and then a series of backport patches on top to make it work [09:55] javigon: note, I am in the process of working on updates for those trees [09:55] jjohansen: It is a perfect start, just what I was looking for. I will fetch regularly then :) [09:55] javigon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/AppArmorForPhabletKernels [09:56] provides a little more detail [09:56] jjohansen: thanks! [09:57] javigon: if you are using utopic (devel) the x86 emulator works okay, and then you don't need a device, otherwise I would recommend sticking with nexus 4, or nexus 10 [09:57] or uhm the newer nexus 7 (Flo) [09:57] jjohansen: Aiming at a demo, so hw is almost necessary. Awesome! [09:58] jjohansen, popey: Thanks a lot for helping! :) [09:58] np [09:58] the older nexus 7 (grouper) and galaxy nexus (maguro) are not supported by current ubuntu images [09:58] javigon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [09:59] good to know! [10:01] How do I set the performance overlay? (make the tap on the screen 4 times show data) [10:02] Any idea if TrustZone will be more accesible? [10:03] follow the porting guide ,I success build a zip,but after flash ,recovery no longer work,replace the boot.img with $out/android-boot.img ,recovery works,but get a bootloop,it can't boot into system [10:03] how to do with this [10:04] robotfuel: there's a funky environment variable for that. PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY [10:05] robotfuel: PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 in fact [10:05] -> afk [10:09] jhodapp: I synced, cleaned and rebuilt, and run into the same thing still: there are headers missing that decoding_service.cpp needs. One observation is that my source tree uses the 'native' headers from Cyanogenmod ( https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_native.git;a=tree;f=include/gui;h=8c279e9946e6c1da68dfd5921cfde84b44c539c5;hb=5d7499bc9ad4a7cf3bc2a03c2e4ae620daa3d719 ) , [10:09] which has a few files missing compared to AOSP ( https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/native/+/master/include/gui/ ) [10:11] jhodapp__: ^^ [10:40] Mirv, hey, can I have a silo for line 34 ? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [10:58] oSoMoN: done, landing-011 [10:58] thanks! [10:58] Kaleo: how do you set PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY permanently on? [10:59] popey, add it to /etc/environment [10:59] ta [10:59] readonly.. [10:59] popey, phablet-config writable-image [10:59] nah [10:59] i dont want to go rw on this phone [10:59] oh, I can put it in ~/.profile [11:00] charles, tedg, could one of you help me setting up the translations for indicator-location? [11:00] charles, tedg, it shouldn't take more than a few seconds, it's about going to https://translations.launchpad.net/indicator-location/14.10/+link-translations-branch [11:00] popey, if that works brendand will be happy [11:00] and setting it to ~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-location/trunk.14.10 [11:01] Kaleo: sergio suggested also initctl set-env PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 as the phablet user [11:01] popey, ok [11:02] didnt work here [11:03] Kaleo: adding to /home/phablet/.profile works here [11:03] thank you! [11:03] great [11:04] got something to play with today ☻ [11:04] :D [11:04] popey, once zbenjamin has fixed a few things in QtCreator we will try to sit down with each app dev [11:04] popey, to make sure QtCreator works for them [11:04] popey, and help profiling if needed [11:05] bug 1302713 [11:05] ☻ [11:05] bug 1302713 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "Set PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 when running an app from QtCreator help debugging" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302713 [11:05] popey, nice one [11:05] that will help [11:06] balloons: do you know if we can run calendar tests now? [11:06] I'd love to push a new calendar to the store after all the hard work the guys did last week - not least vomit removal [11:07] Kaleo: working on that, but there is still a blocker in apparmor that prevents me from finishing it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click-apparmor/+bug/1323233 [11:07] Ubuntu bug 1323233 in click-apparmor (Ubuntu) "debug policy group" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:07] zbenjamin, oki [11:08] Kaleo: fyi thats the last thing that needs to be sorted out, everything else seems to work fine. [11:09] zbenjamin, beautiful [11:09] zbenjamin, do you know who to push for getting the apparmor stuff resolved? [11:10] i was talking to sarnold [11:10] he said if jamie has enough time it might be sorted out in the next few days but he doesn't know exactly === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === gnu is now known as Guest61041 [12:19] cyphermox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7257464/ [12:29] dpm, so all you needed was me or ted to go to https://translations.launchpad.net/indicator-location/14.10/+link-translations-branch and hit 'update'? [12:29] dpm, if so, done [12:31] charles, excellent, thanks! Also, I noticed that the .pot file is not committed: I sent an e-mail about it, but essentially, all that is needed is to run 'intltool-update -p -g indicator-location' inside the po folder and commit the file. Could you help with that too? === charles is now known as Guest9722 [12:55] Saviq: mind checking https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/unity8/workaround_no_scopes_emulator/+merge/220337 ? [12:56] rsalveti, will to get through this today [12:56] Saviq: thanks [12:58] +try [12:58] ;) [13:12] Mirv, can I have a silo for line 35? [13:13] stgraber: hi, did you see comment #7 on bug 1286542? [13:13] bug 1286542 in Ubuntu system image "keyring DuplicateDestinationError when updating from custom s-i server" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1286542 [13:13] (assuming you're not on vacation anymore) [14:26] ricmm, Kaleo, yeah, I wasn't there this morning [14:26] ricmm, and looks like there's a leftover "Application startup" in the Events calendar... [14:26] probably invalid by now [14:27] jjohansen, hey, we've been told you were looking into the lxc test issues, do you have any ETA? [14:28] Saviq: hopefully, today some time. I've got to build a kernel and do testing so probably later into the evening [14:29] Saviq I'll walk you through it [14:29] Saviq: then I need to push to the kt [14:30] jjohansen, awesome, thanks [14:30] mterry_, ↑ [14:30] * mterry_ hugs jjohansen [14:30] ricmm, now? where you at? [14:42] Saviq: not now [14:44] ricmm, ok, lemme know [14:46] charles: what's the state of the transfer indicator? [14:57] hm. can't really find much information on an actual ubuntu phone release date :/ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [15:00] Macer: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/02/19/canonical-announces-first-partners-to-ship-ubuntu-phones-around-the-globe/ [15:00] Macer: that page says 2014, I don't think more specific dates are available [15:10] yeah i saw that. ah well. guess i'll just wait. [15:10] heh [15:10] i'm sure they'll be sold out for like a year :/ [15:11] i just hope someone makes one with a hw qwerty heh [15:11] t1mp: plus that's on ubuntu.com.. could just be propaganda :D [15:12] it's like going to whitehouse.gov and trying to find an article that says obama did something bad hehe [15:15] Macer: well, as long as a date is not announced by Ubuntu/Canonical, I would not even trust it when it is on another website [15:17] i know. i'm just joking. [16:00] are there any designs for feedback on tap for e.g. the back button in the bottom panel? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === Beldar is now known as frankleee [19:29] hi, can you help me with edit manifest.xml for n7000 ? [19:36] hello ineed some help at ubuntu-touch [19:37] im so impressed with ubuntu touch! [19:37] did u tryed it? [19:38] just right now. got it installed. what issues are you having? [19:38] its about the device. [19:38] :( [19:39] want to port the ubuntu-touch [19:39] which device? [19:40] gt-s7582 [19:40] :D [19:41] galaxy s2? it looks like theys already been started on porting.. but, they can't get the phone calls to work [19:42] nop [19:42] the s duos 2 [19:43] :'( [19:43] they didnt startd. [19:44] can you help me with edit manifest on n7000? [19:44] oh, sorry i googled it. it looks similar. i wish i knew more about that process === gnu is now known as Guest11890 [19:54] can i use revision stable/cm-11.0 ? [19:56] pls help [20:17] hi [20:18] i want to wipe windows from a gifted laptop and install ubuntu [20:18] but I do not like unity [20:18] So i m wondering if Ubuntu has optimized Touch only for Unity or does it work very well with xfce/gnome as well ? [20:18] meek_geek, YOU are really mixed up for ubuntu use #ubuntu for touch use this chanel, do you know the difference? [20:19] touch is a phone platform [20:19] Beldar, wtf ? [20:19] u send me from ubuntu to here! [20:20] meek_geek, Do not swear, you are mixing OS's I'm trying to understand you needs. [20:20] your [20:20] Beldar, I m talking about ubuntu on laptops with touchscreen [20:21] where would that go ? [20:21] meek_geek, #ubuntu [20:21] sorry for any mixup ;) [20:22] Beldar, np do you have touch laptops ? [20:22] meek_geek, No not yet, just a nexus 7 [20:23] * Beldar needs to cut back on the caffeine [20:23] oh [20:24] Beldar, are you a dev ? [20:24] meek_geek, No just an arm chair user, a bit to much free tome is all. [20:24] time* [20:25] do you like unity ? [20:26] meek_geek, I use the gnome-shell, there are like 50 desktops to choose from [20:26] oh wow [20:27] What do you mean ? lol [20:27] meek_geek, unity is a desktop, so is xubuntu, openbox, lubuntu, kubuntu.......etc [20:28] meek_geek, If you had a linux server you would be just using the terminal, the dektop is the gui on top [20:28] desktop* [20:28] So you mean DE/WM ? [20:29] I love Gnome and Xfce [20:29] meek_geek DE is short for desktop, and some have a window manager yes [20:29] meek_geek, we are offtopic here try #ubuntu-offtopic [20:32] ok === jjw is now known as Guest82419 [20:58] http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/List_of_Secure_Instant_Messengers [22:40] t1mp: hi [22:40] t1mp: do you have any docs/spec for the new header ? [22:45] daker: these are the most up-to-date specs that I have from design: http://design.canonical.com/2014/03/new-apps-header/ [22:46] daker: and here is the qml API that we are discussing for Ubuntu.Components https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1wUUKtPmRmwbUELC1BUB9l0VOAwS_zAPRSCqMopUxR1c/edit#heading=h.yv1xue68vkeu [22:47] t1mp: ok, that doc will be very helpful [22:47] thanks!