| daftykins | this is great | 01:37 |
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| daftykins | a mates in Tokyo at the moment... | 01:37 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/mg08pjbrxpcx5zx/2014-05-17%2014.57.56.jpg | 01:37 |
| === alan_g_ is now known as alan_g | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:25 |
| popey | pip pip | 09:25 |
| brobostigon | meep | 09:26 |
| === msm is now known as Guest69266 | ||
| DJones | 9Hmmh, Sky multiroom boxes come in handy when you're planning on going away in a caravan & have a portable dish | 11:34 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 11:59 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings bigcalm | 12:00 |
| bigcalm | o/ | 12:03 |
| mapps | yay | 12:27 |
| mapps | morning | 12:27 |
| mapps | 59554162014-05-26 13:27:11Withdraw*2001£1,427.00 | 12:27 |
| mapps | :D | 12:27 |
| mapps | finally had a winning bet at winner.com | 12:28 |
| penguin42 | :what was that on? | 12:36 |
| shauno | I've just found the most mindbending bug in one of our systems :/ | 12:50 |
| penguin42 | it's good when you find them :-) | 12:50 |
| shauno | we have a thing where when a customer's password is sent back to them in a webpage, it's sent as *******. and then when we get the form back, if the content isn't ******'s, they've changed their password and we update | 12:51 |
| shauno | that way the form element looks like it has something in it, but isn't anything revealing | 12:51 |
| shauno | soooo today I've found a customer who used the password '*****' and caused the universe to implode | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | but sometimes the *'s get expanded/changed? | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | hahahaha | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Rule 58: Ensure special values are always special | 12:52 |
| mapps | :Dpenguin42 okc thunder last night | 13:08 |
| mapps | :D | 13:08 |
| mapps | just glad ive got some yen now | 13:09 |
| * penguin42 hasn't got a clue what okc thunder is | 13:09 | |
| mapps | oklahoma city thunder - nba | 13:09 |
| penguin42 | ah | 13:09 |
| mapps | my deposits from the 23rd - now are quite a lot though so its not as impressive as it sounds ....like £1080 | 13:09 |
| mapps | just went through them | 13:09 |
| penguin42 | ah, so you bet over 1K ? | 13:10 |
| mapps | yea | 13:10 |
| mapps | :) | 13:10 |
| penguin42 | over what period? | 13:16 |
| penguin42 | and if you keep going at the same rate would you be winning or losing? | 13:17 |
| mapps | er | 13:42 |
| mapps | not sure penguin42 | 13:42 |
| mapps | at least its not raining today | 13:42 |
| penguin42 | right, nicely contained scan order for bits | 13:53 |
| mapps | what you order | 13:54 |
| penguin42 | oh just bits; hard drive (an SSD failed yesterday), couple of small uSD cards, usb-sata caddy (see hard drive) a mouse and a long cat5e cable | 13:56 |
| foobarry | what are the chances someone will want my lovely quintrix CRT for free? | 15:31 |
| foobarry | feels wrong to take it to the tip | 15:31 |
| Myrtti | zero to none | 15:35 |
| foobarry | possibly in the negative territory as i can't even get help to lift it out of the house :D | 15:41 |
| jussi | foobarry: find a computer museum :D | 15:48 |
| foobarry | its a lovely telly | 16:17 |
| foobarry | :) | 16:17 |
| foobarry | i cannot deploy my new one yet due to a case of missing screws for the stand :( | 16:17 |
| foobarry | anyone currentyl got a synology nas? | 16:18 |
| foobarry | thinkn it will be my next tech purchase if i can release funds | 16:18 |
| penguin42 | foobarry: I have a similar problem with my TV | 16:31 |
| foobarry | :( penguin42 | 16:38 |
| foobarry | cant workout what screws i need | 16:38 |
| foobarry | #or where to find them | 16:38 |
| foobarry | M6 screws allegedly | 16:41 |
| penguin42 | those are pretty common aren't they ? | 16:47 |
| penguin42 | foobarry: My TV is a 32" tosh - and the challenge would be getting it down the stairs | 16:47 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: pick up TV... move to top of stairs... DROP! job done! | 16:49 |
| diddledan | what a load of tosh | 16:49 |
| foobarry | mine is a panasonic 32incher, i carried it from somebodys flat to the car. i nearly died twice | 16:49 |
| mapps | yea it sucks chucking stuff away foobarry | 16:50 |
| foobarry | i have 2 kids so finding time to do *anything* sucks | 16:51 |
| foobarry | unless i can do it cheaply from my armchair | 16:51 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Yeh it's the 'pick up TV' bit that's the problem | 16:51 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: How are the bionics? | 16:51 |
| mapps | i hate chucking stuff | 16:51 |
| mapps | really hate it | 16:51 |
| foobarry | my car is only 20 yds from the telly so i'll get a mate to lift it to the car on a convenient day | 16:51 |
| foobarry | and then it will stay in the car for a week until the dump is open | 16:52 |
| foobarry | and i am not working | 16:52 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: no prob - get someone else to do it - do a Huckleberry Finn on them... tell them it's fun | 16:52 |
| penguin42 | mapps: Yeh I mean it's still working so I'm not desperate to get rid of this TV, but these flat panels keep looking at me whenever I go in Dixons | 16:52 |
| mapps | exactly | 16:53 |
| mapps | my dad chucked out a perfectly fine 32inch tv..annoyed me | 16:53 |
| mapps | just because it was crt | 16:53 |
| mapps | :( | 16:53 |
| diddledan | dixons still exist? | 16:53 |
| mapps | ya | 16:53 |
| foobarry | dixoncurrypcworldphonewarehouse? | 16:53 |
| diddledan | I thought they closed all the dixons in favour of currys and pcworld combos | 16:53 |
| mapps | yea same thing tho aint it | 16:53 |
| diddledan | same company, different emphasis | 16:54 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: Yes I'm sorry, I mean currys.digital or whatever the highstreet ones are | 16:54 |
| SuperEngineer | or do what I did when I eventually went for an upgrade [not long ago], remove guilt by moving old tv to bedroom | 16:54 |
| SuperEngineer | ...one day I might even plug it in ;) | 16:54 |
| penguin42 | out of sight out of mind? | 16:55 |
| mapps | :D | 16:55 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: ... & the bionics are recovering nicely. Thanks for asking. | 16:55 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: out of sight except for when too tired to realise... works for me ;) | 16:56 |
| foobarry | paul mcgann is reading my sons audio book. he has the most dour voice known to man | 16:56 |
| foobarry | so now you're all back into life, any synology users? | 16:57 |
| SuperEngineer | what's a "synology user" - is that slang for someone addicted to a drug I missed in my yoof? | 17:00 |
| * SuperEngineer phones evil dealer - asks for some synology | 17:00 | |
| diddledan | quote: "French beekeepers were shocked to find their bees had produced a supply of thick, blue honey. Turns out the bees had been feeding on the colourful shells of M&Ms - a Mars processing plant sat just 4 km away." | 17:01 |
| diddledan | and the image to go with: https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/1798691_837779872909692_1973397425184143260_n.jpg | 17:01 |
| Myrtti | I just love the Asian supermarket / cash and carry we have relatively close | 17:02 |
| Myrtti | stocked up on dumplings and my favourite noodles again | 17:02 |
| * SuperEngineer puts phone down having been sworn at by evil dealer - picks it up again and suggests diddledan could well be a customer! | 17:02 | |
| Myrtti | they even had durian ice lollies but we didn't venture there | 17:02 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: Nice! | 17:02 |
| foobarry | obligatory overprocesssed holiday pic http://i.imgur.com/zb1ahTW.jpg | 17:03 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: http://www.ediblegeography.com/crispy-wings/ is from a bunch of guys who were tracking some birds and couldn't figure out why they were going to one particular town - a crisp factory | 17:04 |
| penguin42 | foobarry: Yeh the sky looks interesting | 17:04 |
| foobarry | because cornwall and because tonemapping | 17:05 |
| foobarry | cornish clouds are good for god rays. | 17:05 |
| diddledan | foobarry, you need to do some HDR | 17:05 |
| foobarry | i did already :S | 17:06 |
| diddledan | heh.. ok :-p | 17:06 |
| foobarry | there were 4 exposures , hence the ghosting | 17:06 |
| diddledan | gotcha | 17:06 |
| foobarry | i have a proper hdr one with no tonemap fakery | 17:07 |
| diddledan | what explains how the wall and tree are so well defined | 17:07 |
| diddledan | that* | 17:07 |
| foobarry | designed more for viewing on phones etc..it wouldn't stand up to much scrutiny | 17:08 |
| diddledan | *want* http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/monitors/28inchplusmonitors/29ub65-p.html | 17:09 |
| diddledan | that would improve my photo viewing | 17:10 |
| daftykins | pff who looks at photos ;) | 17:12 |
| daftykins | omw that's cheap now | 17:12 |
| daftykins | i paid like £360-400 each for my Dell 2408's back in the day | 17:12 |
| daftykins | they're still great, with every input under the sun, but CCFL based | 17:12 |
| penguin42 | there are some 4k's now for 499 | 17:13 |
| daftykins | day-um | 17:15 |
| daftykins | reminds me, i've been asked to find an 80" TV | 17:15 |
| diddledan | bloomin nora | 17:15 |
| diddledan | that's hooge | 17:15 |
| daftykins | it's a tough one though - feels a bit late in the day to be buying just a 1080p panel of said size, yet there won't be any source nor content for 4K | 17:15 |
| SuperEngineer | daftykins: have they got a ruler? If not, I've got an 80" TV for sale ;) | 17:15 |
| foobarry | clambering over these rocks with my 4yr old was fun http://i.imgur.com/a43bxuu.jpg | 17:16 |
| daftykins | heh | 17:17 |
| daftykins | it'd replace a plasma 65" | 17:17 |
| daftykins | which is insanely heavy | 17:17 |
| foobarry | which uses more energy, a 32 inch plsma, lcd or crt | 17:18 |
| foobarry | when being watched | 17:18 |
| diddledan | crt I would thing | 17:19 |
| diddledan | k | 17:19 |
| diddledan | then plasma a close second | 17:19 |
| SuperEngineer | foobarry: depends which one you plug in ;) | 17:19 |
| diddledan | a crt makes all sorts of extra goodness such as x-rays | 17:20 |
| diddledan | so needs moar powah | 17:20 |
| SuperEngineer | [any TV can be "watched" - it's watching programmes that loused up your electic bill | 17:20 |
| * SuperEngineer returns form bedroom - watched the tv for a while - it didn't move | 17:21 | |
| SuperEngineer | *from | 17:22 |
| penguin42 | well, apparently my 32" Tosh takes 95W | 17:24 |
| diddledan | I think it's very impolite to use that term | 17:25 |
| diddledan | I prefer "pardon" to "watt" | 17:25 |
| penguin42 | if you say watt again..... | 17:26 |
| diddledan | watt? | 17:26 |
| diddledan | I mean pardon? | 17:26 |
| penguin42 | I dare you.... | 17:26 |
| bigcalm | I double dare you | 17:26 |
| penguin42 | modern 32" Tosh LCD 53W - so not a vast difference | 17:26 |
| * SuperEngineer checks TV paperwork to see the "excuse me" useage | 17:27 | |
| diddledan | SuperEngineer, what about the "I'm sorry to bother you" scale? | 17:27 |
| SuperEngineer | diddledan: ah - that was hidden at the back of the manual - got it now | 17:29 |
| SuperEngineer | ..right next next to it's politeness rating... | 17:30 |
| SuperEngineer | [& finds it measured with "Favourable Amperage Reality Testings"] | 17:30 |
| * penguin42 can't find the power consumption of a plasma | 17:30 | |
| diddledan | aah the FART emissions test | 17:30 |
| SuperEngineer | aw cumon!... took me bleedin' ages to work that one out! | 17:31 |
| diddledan | :-) | 17:31 |
| diddledan | I don't get why analogue vga signalling is still considered important enough to put on every monitor | 17:33 |
| diddledan | the digital ones are a pot-shot as to which are supported on any particular monitor but analogue vga is always there?! | 17:33 |
| penguin42 | to plug PCs into | 17:34 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: They might get some signage uses as well, but you would have thought it would simplify the hardware if they got rid of all analog inputs | 17:34 |
| diddledan | [18:34:11] <penguin42> to plug PCs into <-- considering that's what a monitor usually has plugged into it then, yeah | 17:35 |
| SuperEngineer | hmmm - I wondered that spare monitor cable forced into the printer port didn't work! | 17:37 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: I do have my mum running her PC on a TV | 17:37 |
| diddledan | penguin42, aye but I'm not talking about plugging a computer into a tv, I'm talking about plugging it into a monitor. monitors are specifically designed for computers to plug into them | 17:38 |
| SuperEngineer | Boasting here... main monitor plugged to graphics card DVI socket, TV plugged to HDMI, old vga monitor [used for slideshow of photos] plugged to vga monitor of same graphcs card! | 17:39 |
| diddledan | I fail to understand the reasoning that VGA is still important to include everywhere | 17:39 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: OK ok but I do use VGA still - on my work laptop | 17:40 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: There's still too much randomness about what you will find on laptops | 17:40 |
| * SuperEngineer hugs his graphics card & vga monitor - and covers vga's ears from diddledan's insults | 17:40 | |
| diddledan | I can understand a few monitors including vga for backward compatibility, but I don't get why every. damned. single. monitor. everywhere. has to include vga | 17:40 |
| penguin42 | except Macs, where you can be sure you'll have nothing useful | 17:40 |
| penguin42 | hmm are there any other EU news sites in English - I'm curious what they make of it | 17:41 |
| SuperEngineer | because out there in the big wide business world - VGA is still commonly used perhaps | 17:41 |
| SuperEngineer | Breaking news - all votes in euro elections invalidated - Jono Bacon chosen to stand as "the voice of sanity" instead. | 17:46 |
| diddledan | well done, jono | 17:46 |
| directhex | diddledan, 100% of laptops have VGA, since 100% of projectors have VGA | 18:39 |
| daftykins | any of you gents dealt with some of the more messy EFI installs? :) | 18:40 |
| daftykins | a mates helping someone with their win8 laptop | 18:40 |
| daftykins | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7523209/ | 18:40 |
| daftykins | ubuntu's been installed via CSM (so legacy boot) into the tail end of the disk, then boot-repair was used to point to sda2 as the EFI partition (which it is) | 18:41 |
| daftykins | but upon changing 'BIOS' back to EFI instead of CSM, apparently only Windows boots still | 18:41 |
| directhex | so what's the intention? | 18:42 |
| daftykins | to have a GRUB menu for a choice between EFI booting both 8 and ubuntu ideally | 18:43 |
| directhex | EFI boots "applications" - either any application registered with the firmware, or the application in a default path on a drive with a supported filesystem | 18:43 |
| daftykins | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_EFI_or_Legacy_mode | 18:44 |
| directhex | if ubuntu was installed as BIOS, i doubt grub is registered in the firmware | 18:44 |
| daftykins | he followed that to try and turn the CSM install into EFI mode | 18:44 |
| daftykins | yeah, would it actually need to be installed via some means, like the grub-efi package installed? | 18:44 |
| directhex | can i ask why he did this ass-backwards? | 18:44 |
| daftykins | seems he couldn't get this Toshiba booting his USB flash drive in EFI mode | 18:45 |
| directhex | you can only register an EFI application when booted into an EFI OS | 18:45 |
| daftykins | i was thinking that the above steps are all well and good - but they don't actually do anything to *put* GRUB onto the EFI partition | 18:45 |
| directhex | also that | 18:45 |
| penguin42 | I thought there was some magic to run under windows to fix something | 18:45 |
| daftykins | the disk is so damned messy from one ugly factory install that i'm tempted to suggest nuking the disk and starting with a fresh 8 install ;) | 18:47 |
| daftykins | directhex: is that guide spreading lies then? since it claims you can turn it into an EFI install from outside | 18:48 |
| directhex | daftykins, you need to be booted into EFI ubuntu to make EFI ubuntu bootable. it is impossible to modify EFI variables when booted via BIOS | 18:48 |
| popey | Evening slackers. | 18:48 |
| daftykins | hi popey o/ | 18:49 |
| daftykins | how do? | 18:49 |
| popey | Tickety boo. | 18:49 |
| popey | Finally recovered from a busy week. | 18:49 |
| daftykins | directhex: ok, sounds like they depend upon booting a flash drive as EFI to sort out the install there | 18:49 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/sc/tnfemv330crx2w9/AAAC4ua2eqKCbNWxYEY3uPCYa#/ | 18:50 |
| daftykins | he's also getting this right now | 18:50 |
| directhex | daftykins, bingo | 18:50 |
| daftykins | this is upon closing out of boot-repair | 18:50 |
| directhex | yikes | 18:50 |
| directhex | boot-repair looks like total garbage | 18:50 |
| daftykins | as does that guide if it thinks you can convert an install solely by running it to do that much | 18:52 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/sc/340zvhvnt8tvzeu/AABGIXBZSWiM0b6PYBCM_Jq3a#lh:1-2014-05-27%2003.37.44.jpg | 18:53 |
| daftykins | that was also a key image of just a moment ago | 18:53 |
| daftykins | ah | 18:56 |
| daftykins | now it's doing things | 18:56 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/sc/8q94fx6t1vs76nj/AADQaJ4BPga43LuT4Z3WA59Ia | 18:56 |
| daftykins | hah, boot-repair crashed somewhere along the process | 19:09 |
| directhex | <directhex> boot-repair looks like total garbage | 19:16 |
| daftykins | it looks like what it's trying to do goes against your above statement though | 19:17 |
| daftykins | so which is wrong? :> | 19:17 |
| directhex | ultimately what it's trying to do won't work unless efivars is mounted | 19:17 |
| directhex | well... unless it overwrites bootx64.efi on the efi partition | 19:18 |
| daftykins | yeah it appears to rename the Windows one | 19:19 |
| daftykins | so i imagine it's replacing it with another | 19:19 |
| directhex | ._. | 19:21 |
| daftykins | i think it's disk nuking time :D | 19:23 |
| directhex | total lunar sea. | 19:24 |
| daftykins | yeah? well it's not gonna do anything itself | 19:27 |
| directhex | blurg @ EU votes | 19:29 |
| daftykins | i'm not in the EU | 19:32 |
| brunogirin | directhex: being a Frenchman living in the UK, I did double bleuaarrgghhh last night | 20:11 |
| MooDoo | howdy all | 20:55 |
| daftykins | evening | 20:56 |
| directhex | brunogirin, the FN's success is far worse than UKIP | 21:04 |
| brunogirin | directhex: I know :-( | 21:21 |
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