[06:17] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[06:22] <mazal> Morning everyobe
[06:22] <bduk1> More Mazal
[06:24] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy theblazehen inetpro and others
[06:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning Kilos, everyone
[06:27] <Kilos> hi Xethron bduk1 mazal 
[06:37] <mazal> Môre oom
[06:37] <mazal> Morning ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :-)
[06:41] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, when you are at home press F5 and write down the second rows first 3 readings
[06:41] <Kilos> that can help to indentify direction when you deep down
[06:42] <Kilos> and someone ask superfly to install the mesecons addon the we will have red stone and can build compasses
[06:44] <inetpro> goeie more
[06:54] <Kilos> eeek now my browser opens all black so cant even see to choose bookmarks
[07:01] <Kilos> i reboot and hold thumbs
[07:01] <Kilos> wbb hopefully
[07:08] <bduk> Ek kan nie saamspeel nie minetest hang net by item definitions.....
[07:10] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[07:11] <bduk> Ohi superfly fix your minetest server man 
[07:12] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:12] <Vince-0> o/
[07:12] <superfly> bduk: fix your face man
[07:13] <bduk> ish why? 
[07:13] <Kilos> he is busy man
[07:13] <superfly> bduk: Pointing out the issue would be better than greeting me with "fix your server!"
[07:14] <bduk> At least i got your attention
[07:14] <superfly> In a negative way that makes me disinclined to assist you
[07:14] <bduk> No man you can't be like that
[07:14] <Kilos> bduk, he sees it is slow and suffers with us so be assured he is looking for the prob
[07:15] <mazal> superfly, I get a hang at " Item definitions " upon connect
[07:15] <mazal> Dunno if that is the error with everyone
[07:15] <Kilos> in the meantime bduk try find us a local host for the game
[07:16] <Kilos> mine opens quite quick but then struggles to load the map
[07:16] <bduk> Ja ek weet kilos maar hy moet gou maak ek het onttrekking simptome die naweek was lank. Nee ek speel lekker saam met die fly
[07:17] <Kilos> hahaha very addictive hey
[07:17] <Kilos> ive already purchased the data that should be for month after next
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: I had that last night, got in after retrying a few times
[07:20] <mazal> Man I have to start mining for proper resources , but ai. That getting lost bit bothers me :P
[07:21] <mazal> So far I am more into faming :P
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> the key to not getting lost is to not build crazy mazes
[07:21] <mazal> But my tools are getting done now
[07:21] <mazal> I need coal and proper rock and steen
[07:21] <mazal> steel even
[07:21] <Kilos> mazal, go to your home then press f5 and write down the c0-ords
[07:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> check out my underwater mining operation, you see i stop and mine horizontally rather than in all directions
[07:22] <mazal> Good tip that ta
[07:23] <Kilos> eish i get totallt disorientated under water
[07:23] <Kilos> otallt
[07:23] <Kilos> ai!
[07:23] <Kilos> totally
[07:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> it isn't really "under" water, just the entrance to the stairway, is a short swim down
[07:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> pretty sure you'd drown if it was underwater ;)
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: what kind of memory & bandwidth requirements do you need to cater for running that server?
[07:27] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: I don't know, I'm running on my VPS (which is in the UK), which and I haven't noticed any alerts come through for high processor or memory usage
[07:27] <charl_> good morning
[07:27] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[07:27]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[07:27] <superfly> ohi charl_
[07:28] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[07:28] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[07:28] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[07:28] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[07:28] <charl_> hi superfly 
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmmm
[07:29] <charl_> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi charl_
[07:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!
[07:31] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:31] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:34] <Kilos> even when i try open /home it shows black
[07:37] <charl_> Maaz: thank you
[07:37] <Maaz> charl_: Okay :-)
[07:40] <Kilos> lemme go try kde
[07:40] <Kilos> wbb
[07:54] <Kilos> ai! game all black window in kde
[07:55] <Kilos> oh loading slow and i gotta do the gamma thing
[08:00] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: my VPS is 2 gigs of RAM, 2 cores
[08:00] <superfly> but I'm pretty sure it's just idling
[08:03] <Kilos> kde much easier to do gamma settings, dont need to go use the nvidia settings
[08:03] <Kilos> hi Spekko  wokky sick today
[08:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: what's 'free -m' say?
[08:04] <Kilos> ohi JabberwockyA19  just slow i see
[08:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> or do you set an amount of memory it can use?
[08:04] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: uh, gimme a few
[08:06] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: http://pastebin.com/aRLctL4d
[08:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> quite hard to figure out how much bandwith it uses too
[08:06] <bduk> Thanks superfly im in
[08:07] <Spekko> more Kilos
[08:08] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: http://picpaste.com/linode516294-mK07wGFu.png
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool, thanks
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> dedi server a little expensive, or i'd just get one of those
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> staff perks only apply to plain old web hosting accounts :-(
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> i can maybe run a VM, will have to find out
[09:44] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[09:44] <Kilos> hey guys i just had an idea
[09:45] <Kilos> yes its gonna rain i suppose
[09:46] <Kilos> if you carry gravel with you when you go down under you can build your main path with gravel so it gives you like a marked paveway to where you coming from
[09:47] <Kilos> that should help solve the getting lost inna mine prob
[09:48] <Kilos> like pve the main in out route
[09:48] <Kilos> s/pve/pave
[09:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[09:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> but maybe with dirt instead of gravel
[09:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> gravel is very rare compared to dirt, and takes longer to mine as well
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> but good idea if you're prone to getting lost
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> i prefer to mine more methodically, not randomly all over the place
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> i did that at first and quickly realised why its not ideal
[10:02] <Kilos> gravel that is
[10:03] <Kilos> lol i get lost everytime i go down so now carrly lotsa ladders so i can go straight up
[10:04] <Kilos> im trying to make my first long drop places so one cant get lost there
[10:04] <Kilos> actually thats very clever ThatGraemeGuy  dirt shows well in cobblestone
[11:00] <JabberwockyA19> hi Kilos, our telkom line was moved to another building
[11:00] <Kilos> oh my and now?
[11:00] <JabberwockyA19> now we are on 3g
[11:02] <Kilos> ai!
[11:02] <Kilos> i gotta go eat now wbb
[11:02] <JabberwockyA19> we were going to move offices last Friday, but for some unknown reason we are not
[11:02] <JabberwockyA19> enjoy
[11:06] <mazal> Lo JabberwockyA19 
[11:14] <JabberwockyA19> hey mazal, hoe gaan dit?
[11:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> whoa
[11:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> i found tin lumps
[11:15] <JabberwockyA19> minetest?
[11:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes
[11:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> never seen tin mentioned on the wiki
[11:15] <JabberwockyA19> what server are you playing on?
[11:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly's
[11:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> is it a mod?
[11:16] <JabberwockyA19> no idea, I've never played the game :P
[11:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> haha
[11:17] <JabberwockyA19> I'd love to join, but wont be able to play before wednesday night very busy *hmpf*
[11:19] <mazal> Goed dankie en jy JabberwockyA19 ?
[11:23] <JabberwockyA19> heel goed, lekker besig eksamen is amper verby :)
[11:24] <mazal> JabberwockyA19, weet jy of mens 'n game wat jy besit kan verkoop op die steam marketplace ? Seker nie ne
[11:42] <JabberwockyA19> mazal: jy kan net games trade wat jy gekoop het as 'n gift (nog nie oop gemaak het nie)
[11:44] <mazal> K ta
[11:44] <JabberwockyA19> np
[13:10] <Kilos> hmm... found diamond, but back by the lava
[13:13] <Kilos> superfly  ty for paying for that server for us to play on
[13:14] <Kilos> by the hour nogal
[13:15] <Trixar_za> Minetest?
[13:15] <Trixar_za> I have Pentium44 idling on another channel
[13:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: where did you find diamond? and how far down?
[13:38] <Kilos> long wat from where you left you will see lava then tunnel branches to the right
[13:39] <Kilos> i left you somein the chest a bit up again
[13:39] <Kilos> you can just follow the steps
[13:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Pickaxe, diamond pickaxe lasts as long as  wood pickaxe, whaaat?
[13:40] <Kilos> turned right over the lava hopefully
[13:40] <Kilos> diamonds are brittle
[13:40] <Kilos> hard but smash with a hammer
[13:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'll check it out later
[13:40] <Kilos> better for cutting tools
[13:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> you didn't turn it into a maze did you? :-p
[13:41] <Kilos> i read they even have generators and wiring so one can put up lights
[13:41] <Kilos> duh! i found my way out
[13:41] <Kilos> found lotsa gravel in some places too
[13:42] <Kilos> hoping with the branch to the right to get to other side the lava where my other ladders are
[13:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> i hate gravel, it takes longer to mine, falls down all the time and has no practical use
[13:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> if i hit gravel in stairways i just route around it
[13:43] <Kilos> makes lekker noise when you walk on it
[13:43] <Kilos> im carrying a load home now
[13:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't even play with my headphones, lol
[13:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> sound isn't really a significant feature
[13:43] <Kilos> i gotta have sound or miss too much
[13:44] <Kilos> one old eye dont see alerts like you peeps
[13:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmm what do you hear that you can miss? i don't think i've ever had sound on
[13:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, messages make noise?
[13:44] <Kilos> well for starters when nick mentioned here there is bell.ogg
[13:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe i should put on headphones
[13:45] <Kilos> lol
[13:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://wiki.minetest.net/Nyan_Cat
[13:45] <Kilos> and i get a pling sound when peeps join here when on konversation
[13:46] <Kilos> when you find your first diamond a heart shows above the bar where you choose tools
[13:47] <Kilos> ya but what can you do with them cat things
[13:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> brag that you found one
[13:48] <Kilos> i only want stuff that can work
[13:48] <Kilos> lol
[13:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you carry around gravel :p
[13:48] <Kilos> like gold worthless to me but maybe tin makes electrical wiring
[13:48] <Kilos> gravel is so i can hear when im off the path
[13:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's no electricity
[13:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe in mods
[13:49] <Kilos> there will be i saw water generator info
[13:50] <Kilos> or hydro, i forget now
[13:51] <Kilos> the flys server is gonna groan when all the stuff loaded
[13:51] <Kilos> but its running ok now
[13:51] <Kilos> musta been the host taking strain
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> what stuff?
[13:57] <Kilos> all the addons or mods or whatever they are called
[13:58] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[13:58] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[13:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> did someone add stuff?
[13:58] <Kilos> he did some of it
[13:59] <Kilos> only he can
[13:59] <Kilos> only he can do it la la la la
[14:00] <bduk1> That sounds happy Kilos 
[14:00] <Kilos> lol
[14:00] <Kilos> dont you know the song?
[14:00] <Kilos> only you can do it la la la la
[14:01] <bduk1> don't recognise the tune
[14:02] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Xgkr_iSEs
[14:02] <Kilos> i  dont do tube but maybe you can
[14:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> i mean did he add new stuff recently, or has it been there since i started?
[14:04] <Kilos> i nthink he added 2 or 3 things within the last wqeek
[14:04] <Kilos> but hasnt done a restart that i know of
[14:16] <Kilos> hi SilverCode  
[14:17] <SilverCode> Hi Kilos
[14:36] <charl_> good afternoon all
[14:36] <charl_> anyone here with experience https://logentries.com/ ?
[14:36] <charl_> just tried it for the first time, looks like an AMAZING tool
[14:36] <charl_> only problem, it's a hosted (saas) solution
[14:42] <Vince-0> RMS would say: don't Saas me
[15:36] <superfly> Hahaha
[15:46] <Kilos> hey superfly  im putting stops where your high speed stairs shoot we off the end of your roads ok?
[15:46] <Kilos> t junctions that is
[15:47] <superfly> Ja
[16:05] <bduk1> superfly: 
[16:11] <bduk1> superfly: Your server runs like an ice cream
[16:13] <superfly> Smooth?
[16:14] <bduk1> Verry lekker, but don't break it again tommorow morning ne
[16:18] <superfly> I didn't do anything.
[16:19] <superfly> And I'm doing this for nothing, remember. If you want to complain, you are more than welcome to get your own server.
[16:19] <bduk1> Don't worry just pulling your leg, appreciate the game thanks for your trouble
[16:19] <superfly> You're welcome.
[16:26] <superfly> I'm more than happy to troubleshoot issues of people are willing to be nice and you check their end first.
[16:26] <superfly> *if
[16:29] <bduk1> Well if i didn't sound nice this morning i didn't mean annything bad, I ment everything in a joking way
[16:32] <superfly> Text conveys no emotion or tone, so just be careful how you say things... I've been burnt before by that :-(
[16:33] <bduk1> If i get upset i'd rather say nothing cause i don't like to say things i ll later regret. So as long as i'm talking i'm happy. if you understand
[16:35] <bduk1> Anny way don't like to offend my ubuntu friends, i learned a lot from them these past times. Must learn to put these yellow faces in mabe that will help
[16:43] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:43] <Kilos> add hahas and hehes 
[16:45] <bduk1> Kilos: didn't you have to be in bed by now?
[16:47] <Kilos> haha what you mean i have more late night with minetest than since 19998
[16:47] <Kilos> 1998
[16:48] <bduk1> Was also wondering who's the @shole who started this game
[16:55] <Trixar_za> Yeah, been messing with MineTest too - had to disable the lighting, particles and shaders to get a decent FPS, but it's nice
[16:56] <Kilos> haha hi Trixar_za   why you had to disable stuff? graphics?
[16:56] <Trixar_za> Yeah - with shaders and lighting on I was only getting like 3 FPS
[16:56] <Trixar_za> Now I get like 30 - with it slowing down to 16 when I'm near water and trees at the same time
[16:57] <Kilos> eish
[16:57] <Kilos> did you go to the flys game or is that in single player
[16:57] <Trixar_za> Single Player - was testing it out
[16:57] <Trixar_za> :P
[16:58] <Kilos> single player is ok for learning the actions but the real pleasure comes when you share
[16:58] <Kilos> when you get lost inna mine maze there always someone to help
[16:59] <Kilos> i never realise online gaming can be such addictive fun
[16:59] <Kilos> but you looking at 100+m per day
[17:00] <Kilos> i go ea
[17:00] <Kilos> eat too
[17:04] <Trixar_za> Most online games have that effect. Especially with other players.
[17:05] <Trixar_za> You get a bunch of different kind of players. Some go at it alone, some form groupings and others turn into 'shops'. The style of playing also differs for everybody :P
[17:06] <bduk1> It's true Trixar_za  
[17:09] <Trixar_za> How do I make blocks stay in the air?
[17:11] <Kilos> you build from ground up then remove the bottom ones
[17:11] <Trixar_za> That will be a little hard from where I am
[17:11] <Trixar_za> :P
[17:13] <Trixar_za> Hmmm, if I build straight up by alternating between two blocks, it should work well enough
[17:16] <bduk1> Kilos: did the national wintersport started in your area yet
[17:23] <Kilos> Trixar_za  monkey says press super then hold shift and you can build alongside blocks
[17:23] <Kilos> i have managed it yet i fall off
[17:23] <Kilos> very cold here bduk1  
[17:24] <bduk1> I mean the fires. Did you make your firebreaks?
[17:24] <Kilos> nope
[17:24] <Kilos> plkace too small for that
[17:24] <Kilos> we just keep eyes and ears open
[17:25] <Kilos> then run when we see or smell smoke
[17:25] <bduk1> ok we made one from one side to the other of our farm but must still make one on the road's side. 
[17:26] <Kilos> they gotta be like 50metres wide to be of any help in windy weather
[17:27] <Kilos> we used to make them 100 metres in natal
[17:27] <Trixar_za> Hey it works
[17:28] <Kilos> what?
[17:29] <bduk1> Thats a story. the main thing is to have a road where you can drive on when fighting the fire. We made two kreaks of 5 meter each and then there is about 10 to m20m meters between them that we burned. If the fire come from that side we just light it and it can burn towards the fire
[17:30] <Kilos> haha how many fires have you fought
[17:31] <Kilos> ive spent days in natal when burns like from harrismith to um
[17:31] <Kilos> the place east of utrecht
[17:31] <Kilos> um
[17:32] <Kilos> vryheid
[17:32] <bduk1> Also had my share of fire fighting and still do. 
[17:32] <bduk1> You also come from kzn
[17:32] <Kilos> with all the farmers from the area
[17:32] <Kilos> spent years in utrecht
[17:33] <Kilos> and a tar road doesnt stop a veldt fire
[17:33] <Kilos> and thats more than 5 metres wide
[17:34] <bduk1> I was in the capital of india for a year and then in Eshowe for about 12 years. Yes if the wind is behind a fire it can jump far and if it is in bluegum trees it even jump further
[17:34] <Kilos> ive seen farmers lose 50 fine wool stud rams in one fire and thats a farmer that is third generation in the area
[17:35] <Kilos> bluegums burn along the tops and drop burning leaves everywhere
[17:35] <Kilos> blacks call them loie bome
[17:36] <Kilos> olie
[17:36] <bduk1> Thats why the main thing about a firebreak these days is not to stop the fire but it is for the fighters to have a road to travel on. 
[17:36] <Kilos> then you making roads not firebreaks
[17:36] <Xethron> Heya Kilos
[17:36] <Trixar_za> http://trixarian.net/minetest.jpg
[17:36] <Kilos> hi Xethron  
[17:37] <Trixar_za> Btw, falling from high places hurt
[17:37] <Trixar_za> :P
[17:37] <Kilos> ya you lose hearts
[17:38] <Kilos> gotta eat to recover
[17:50] <superfly> Trixar_za: what textures are those?
[17:51] <Trixar_za> The normal ones? It just rendered a very long rock tower with a tree on top and a pool of water at the bottom (so like a waterfall?). I'm just building around it.
[17:58] <bduk1> Is Maas offduty?
[18:01] <Trixar_za> Well, that was a suicidal swan dive
[18:03] <Trixar_za> http://trixarian.net/minetest2.jpg - the tower :P
[18:04] <Trixar_za> Built a staircase up the side - but it didn't turn out that well
[18:05] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[18:05] <Kilos> Trixar_za  it takes some practise
[18:05] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[18:05] <Kilos> you must see the stuff the fly and monkey build
[18:06] <Trixar_za> This is like lego for adults
[18:07] <gremble> Lego is for adults >.>
[18:07] <bduk1> Cant believe a stupid game like this can keep a bunch of adults so bussy
[18:11] <Kilos> lol
[18:14] <bduk1> Goodnight everyone
[18:14] <Kilos> i wish graeme would come online
[18:14] <Kilos> night bduk1  
[18:15] <Kilos> i cant find his mine that starts inna water
[18:17] <Trixar_za> What is superfly's server addy? :P
[18:17] <Kilos> pm
[18:40] <inetpro> ai!
[18:40] <inetpro> kbmonkey, Kilos, superfly, etc: what is this with you guys playing so much you even forget about our meeting? 
[18:41] <Kilos> oh my sorry inetpro  its tomorrow
[18:41] <inetpro> ja but you have not talked about it
[18:42] <inetpro> if I didn't say anything you would have conveniently let it go by
[18:42]  * inetpro unfortunately won't be here tomorrow
[18:44] <charl_> hey inetpro 
[18:44] <charl_> how's it going
[18:45] <inetpro> charl_: tired and you?
[18:46] <inetpro> our days are way too short this time of the year
[18:46] <charl_> ah our days are LOOOONHG
[18:46] <charl_> run is setting around 11 now
[18:46] <charl_> *sun
[18:47] <inetpro> sjoe
[18:59] <Trixar_za> Eh, I suck at this. Ended up just making a lot of tunnels
[19:18] <inetpro> ai!
[19:18] <inetpro> superfly: you are in big trouble now
[19:19] <inetpro> are you going to pay for all the lost productivity?
[19:19] <superfly> inetpro: when am I NOT in trouble?
[19:19] <theblazehen> lol, /me just saw notification in gmail
[19:19] <inetpro> you guys haven't stopped playing since our last meeting
[19:19] <theblazehen> Trixar_za: that moment when I think you are talking about the "ssh -D" kind of tunnels..
[20:50] <Kilos> inetpro  game called minetest in the repos
[20:52] <superfly> Kilos: he knows
[20:52] <Kilos> very lekker catchy and addictive
[20:52] <Kilos> oh
[20:53] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[20:53]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[20:53] <Kilos> we need a coffe machine in minetest
[20:53] <Kilos> ive mined so hard my tongue is hanging out
[20:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[20:57] <Kilos> Maaz  thanks man
[20:57] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[20:57]  * Kilos a lonely bunch tonight
[21:16] <superfly> night night oom Kilos, bed time for me. Lekker speel!
[21:16] <Kilos> night superfly  ty sleep tight
[21:55] <Kilos> oh my 180 ladders not enough to get to the surface
[23:45] <Kilos> http://wiki.minetest.net/Nyan_Cat
[23:45] <Kilos> sleep tight
[23:45] <Kilos> good morning