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sheerhello friends01:18
sheerI get this line of text every time I open terminal01:18
sheer"groups: cannot find name for group ID 998"01:18
sheerwhat does that mean, why is it happening?01:18
HiDeHohi all whats keyboard shortcut to change desktops.02:28
HiDeHoalso how to assign certian apps to open on certian desktop02:29
woof-woofHiDeHo03:00
HiDeHohi03:02
HiDeHohi ho03:02
HiDeHoxubuntu is great. even on this arm board03:03
HiDeHoall the benifit of ubuntu without unity03:03
HiDeHohi woof-woof03:03
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Gerald`Screen resolution issue in 14.04. Can anyone help?03:06
Gerald`same problem in 12.04 and hoped the upgrade would help, but it didn't03:07
sheerhey has anyone lost their Chrome app tray icons in the last day?04:02
sheercan't get a hangouts icon any more :(04:03
MooneyeHello. I'm not sure if this is a "don't ask to ask" kind of channel, but I'm gonna take my chances. Is there a list of all the GTK attributes XFCE uses? I'm probably using the wrong terminology here, but hopefully you guys know what I mean.05:05
bazhangwhats the end goal here05:11
MooneyeI want to change a number of things in my XFCE theme. I thought it might be easier to just see all the attributes. If you want specifics, I'd adjust the positioning of the menu icon, change the alpha of the window buttons, and change the background color of window menubars.05:13
MooneyeI'd like to*05:13
MooneyePerhaps not easier, but more useful for later on.05:13
bazhanghttp://wiki.xfce.org/howto/xfwm4_theme   <---- that may help05:14
MooneyeI'll read that. Thanks, bazhang.05:16
bazhangnp05:18
ssand4Does anyone know a way to install xubuntu 14.04 on a usb drive on windows?06:12
baizonssand4: you can use linuxliveusb06:15
xubuntu278Where would one go to donate to Xubuntu?06:16
gryIt annoys me that by default, there's no way to add a descrption to a picture. I took some photos and would like to save some notes about them in the files metadata. -- I look and can't find anything nice and pretty which would let me do such task, either.09:51
Unit193gry: I'd file a bug report for ristretto on Xfce's bugzilla, if there isn't one already.10:04
ochosigry: errr, gimp -> file -> properties?10:56
gryochosi: it has a description field which is nice. But what image viewers actually show it?11:05
ochosii think gthumb does, or shotwell11:08
ochosimany others might11:08
ochosieven thunar shows some image metadata in its properties window11:08
prestinhi guys, anyone here familiar with workspaces inside xubuntu?12:08
z4nD4Rprestin: what do you need?12:10
prestinwell, i basically i want the same icon that ubuntu has12:11
prestinfor there workspace handler12:11
prestinim searching like hell, but can't find a simple workspace switcher button12:12
z4nD4Rprestin: the same icon in panel? you meant aplet?12:12
z4nD4Rprestin: there is applet.. I'm using it12:12
prestinye, exactly12:12
prestinwhere can i get it?12:13
elfyright click on panel - add new item - workspace switcher12:15
prestinye, found it in the meanwhile12:17
prestinthanks for the reply12:17
prestinit is me or is linux in general still kinda laggy12:17
prestinwith dragging browsers etc12:17
xubuntu068hello12:21
xubuntu068how do I install xubuntu? load up in poweriso and run an installer? Or do I burn the image to a disc and run the disc at bootup?12:22
TheSheep!install | xubuntu06812:24
ubottuxubuntu068: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate12:24
xubuntu068ok12:30
xubuntu068thanks12:30
xubuntu083i wonder why i dont get an alert for the new lts xubuntu14:19
ElderDryasBecause the automagic alert will be issued when 14.04.1 is released, as it normally is.14:20
xubuntu083ok  then its no error in system14:21
ElderDryasnope, all is well :)14:22
xubuntu083thanks for the info...14:22
ElderDryasnp14:22
Gerald`can someone help with lcd screen resolution on 14.04?14:29
ElderDryasGerald`: It might help if you just ask you question with more detail.14:34
ElderDryasGuess he has no more detail :(14:37
slickymasterWorkor he lost himself in translation ElderDryas14:40
ElderDryasYeah, the subjunctive can be problematic.14:41
ZabaddaHi I have just installed 14.04 and after  I installed the nvidia drivers I can only select 1920x1200 resolution there are no other choices,  anyone had this problem?14:55
ElderDryasZabadda: Did you try Nvidia X-Server Settlngs>X Server Display Configuration>Resolution  (it's a drop down) ?15:09
xubuntu428hello15:10
xubuntu428I installed xubuntu15:10
xubuntu428and15:10
xubuntu428Now it wont let me boot into xubuntu, it goes straight to windows 8 T_T15:11
Zabadda ah I had a look in there but didn't see a resolution option. I'll have another check.15:11
xubuntu428I don't know what to dooo15:11
GridCubexubuntu428, you installed from a pendrive?15:17
xubuntu428no15:18
xubuntu428DVD15:18
xubuntu428this says it may be secure boot causing the problem but Idk how to turn off secure boot http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es-419&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftecnoubuntu.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F12%2F09%2Finstalar-ubuntu-12-10-junto-a-windows-8%2F&act=url15:19
ElderDryasxubuntu428: You might start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI15:23
ElderDryasor here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot15:24
ElderDryasFYI, here's my google search terms "ubuntu turn off secure boot" that found these.15:24
GridCube!efi | xubuntu42815:25
ubottuxubuntu428: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI15:25
xubuntu428thankyou\15:26
xubuntu428ill store those links and start trying the recommendations15:27
ElderDryasRemember, we're open 24/7 :)15:27
ReptiliaDoes someone know what is the major difference between Xubuntu 13.10 and 14.04? I am asking because after the upgrade 13.10 --> 14.04 i noticed a major drop in overall performance. I am using a HP Compaq nx 8220 with ATI Mobility Radeon X600. Thanks in advance.15:43
ElderDryasReptilia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu15:43
ReptiliaElderDryas:Thanks. Can't find anything that could change the way the OS behaves generally. Do you have any idea why do i experience a dramatic difference?15:46
brainwashmajor difference is always the newer kernel15:46
ElderDryasNope, I didn't experience any such behavior.15:46
Reptiliabrainwash:What kernel' changes could make the OS seem sluggish?15:47
brainwashpossible, but not very likely15:48
Reptiliabrainwash:Because this is more than noticeable, i was using Xubuntu only because it was extremely fast on my old laptop.15:48
Reptiliabrainwash:And it is not anymore.15:48
ElderDryasThat's interesting, nothing said about the kernel version in the release notes :)15:49
brainwashso, the whole OS is somewhat running slow?15:49
Reptiliabrainwas:Yes, very slow, compared to what it used to be.15:49
Reptiliabrainwash:I am waiting 5 seconds after i click on the browser icon. It was max. 1 second before.15:49
brainwashopen a terminal window and run "top" to monitor the currently running processes15:49
ReptiliaSure, just a second15:50
ReptiliaXorg is first15:51
Reptiliaxfce4-terminal15:51
brainwashmmh, is the slowness only related to disk read/writes? does the browser launch faster the second time?15:51
brainwashdoes any process consume much cpu resources while not interacting with the system?15:53
brainwashanother thing you should try is to boot the 14.04 live system15:55
ReptiliaSorry, i was afk15:57
Reptiliabrainwash:Well to be honest i don't know how to see what is the disk read/write speed15:57
Reptiliabrainwash:Yes, the browser is launching faster the second time.15:58
brainwashyou could install "iotop", but I'm not sure if it will help in this case15:58
Reptiliabrainwash:What is that?15:58
Reptiliabrainwash:Btw, i think processes' CPU usage is normal, not going above 2%15:59
brainwash(i)nput (o)utput top15:59
Reptiliabrainwas:I don't know what "top" and "init" processes are, top consumes 0.3% and init 0.3$\16:00
Reptiliabrainwas:I don't know what "top" and "init" processes are, top consumes 0.3% and init 0.3%.16:00
brainwash"top" is the tool to monitor the currently running process16:00
Reptiliaoh, hence, "top"16:00
brainwashprocesses16:00
brainwashyeah :)16:00
ElderDryasNot that it should matter going from 13.10 to 14.04, how's the RAM situation (have, used, swap, etc)?16:01
ReptiliaElderDryas:How can i check that? :D16:01
ElderDryastop again :)16:02
ElderDryassee the top of the terminal.16:02
ElderDryasbut I like htop better :)16:02
Reptilia507120 total, 383212, 124144 free16:03
ReptiliaKiB mem:507120;   KiB Swap:52223616:03
ReptiliaLol, no, wrong info, let me try again16:04
Reptiliajust a sec16:04
ReptiliaKiB Mem:507120 total  383492 used  123844 free  10796 buffers16:05
ReptiliaKiB Swap:522236   89504 used   432732 free   220604 cached Mem16:05
ElderDryasOK, you're pushing the boundries here16:06
ElderDryas"To get a smooth experience when running multiple applications parallel on the desktop, it is recommended to have at least 1 GB of memory."16:07
ElderDryascorrect me if I'm wrong brainwash, but it should run, but just don't expect a speed deamon.  You might rey looking at what's loaded at boot and drop any daemons that you don't need.16:09
ElderDryasNow, why the change between 13.10 and 14.04 on your machine, I haven't a clue.16:09
ReptiliaI guess something changed in 14.04, as i said, it was fluid before16:09
ReptiliaI guess i did not know what is the difference between the types of releases, and thought it will be better if i upgrade :D16:10
ElderDryasAs brainwash said "kernel" , would be my guess16:10
ReptiliaBut since this is not my main PC, i will format and install 13.10 again16:11
brainwashwhy not install 14.04?16:12
brainwashfresh installation I mean16:12
ElderDryasReptilia: remeber 13.10 eol's in july16:12
ReptiliaTo re-install?16:12
ReptiliaElderDryas:Yup i know :/16:12
ElderDryasReptilia: Sometimes a re-install works better than a upgrade.16:13
ElderDryasCleans all the cruft out.16:13
ReptiliaOkay, i will do a re-install now, and see how well it performs, and come back later to tell you what i've done. Thanks a lot! :)16:14
ElderDryasnp16:14
meek_geekjoin #freesoup16:36
ReptiliaSo far, it seems that the re-install fixed the problem with the lagging OS. But i will give it more time :D17:39
ReptiliaAlso, i noticed something weird while installing again. One of the options was the following: Install Xubuntu 14.04 LTS alongside *Ubuntu* 14.04 LTS. Why it will recognize my previous OS as Ubuntu, not Xubuntu?17:41
woof-woofBecause it is based on Ubuntu.. And they didn't change it enough I guess..17:43
woof-woofSo it is detected as Ubuntu17:43
ReptiliaI know that it's based on Ubuntu, but if we follow that logic, it will say: "Install Ubuntu alongside Ubuntu"17:45
xubuntu088hi  i have managed to get YTD installed on my laptop useing wine but YTD will not download anything for me i need help17:45
ui_xubuntu088: what is YTD?17:46
xubuntu088youtube downloader17:46
ui_xubuntu088: consider using a native Linux alternative: VLC, get-flash-videos (command-line), minitube (paid)17:47
ui_also, miro but it seems unmaintained17:47
ui_xubuntu088: http://freecode.com/search?q=youtube&submit=Search17:48
xubuntu088miro always crashes i didnt think that mini tube did youtube downloads17:48
ElderDryasxubuntu088: You also might try #winehq for WINE support.17:48
ElderDryasSomeone here <might> know, but I'd bet against it.17:49
ui_xubuntu088: http://alternativeto.net/tag/youtube-downloader/17:49
ReptiliaHow can i make the "Applications Menu" icon look smaller, so there will be only icon, and the text: "Applications Menu" will be gone? I know it can be done, but can't remember now how i used to do it. Thanks in advance.18:17
ReptiliaFound it, lol.18:17
brainwashheh, it's pretty obvious, isn't it? :P18:18
ReptiliaYeah :)18:19
ElderDryasEasier than "Why is my computer slow?" anyway :)18:19
ReptiliaBtw the lag fixed with the re-install, lol18:19
ReptiliaReally want to know what made that happen18:20
brainwashre-installing is not the linux way to solve things.. or rebooting all the time.. but it magically works for many cases :)18:20
Reptilia:))18:21
ElderDryasThere comes a time to say "Fish or cut bait".18:21
ReptiliaLOL18:21
ReptiliaAlso, the screen brightness fixed. It was way too dimmed before the re-install.18:24
ReptiliaWhich browser will you recommend? Firefox or Chrome? Which one is faster on Linux in your experience?18:25
ElderDryaswith FF 29 they starting to look alike...flip a coin :)18:27
ui_consider a lightweight alternative, like midori or surf18:28
ui_on my computer, the fire fox is actually quite fat18:29
Reptiliaui_ midori or suft? Flipping a coin? :)18:30
ui_midori feels more like a real browser, surf is governed via the keyboard and is VERY minimal18:30
ElderDryasoh, that's right, you're RAM challenged...midori (know nothing about Surf).18:30
zleaphi what is the program thing that installs passwrds and encryption keys please18:30
zleapor the program that helps me set this up18:31
ui_Reptilia: see the list of recommended apps by the XFCE team https://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps18:31
ReptiliaElderDryas:Yeah, lol, i ran "top" and firefox really consumes a lot...18:31
Reptiliaui_:Thanks18:32
ui_zleap What is the real problem, what are you trying to do?18:32
zleapi backed up .gnupg18:33
zleapthen reinstalled my system and need to reimport my keys18:33
ui_zleap: I don't know anything about that, you may want to ask in #gnupg for how to import gnupg keys18:34
zleapok18:34
Reptiliamidori has a separate install for private browsing, lol?18:36
ElderDryasYes, install once, browse twice :)18:37
ui_mm no, just launch midori, open the menu at the right, choose the private browsing18:37
ui_just as in ffox or chrome18:38
ReptiliaYeah, saw that now :D18:38
ElderDryasactually, aren't there 2 menu entries?18:38
ReptiliaYes18:38
ReptiliaI'll stick with Chromium, i used to use it18:38
ui_one thing I miss from surf is indeed private browsing, but I guess I may get it with another user and Ctrl+Alt+F818:39
xubuntu194I am having a problem with xubuntu where I can't click the task bar at all. I can't go and switch between minimized programs or right click it. Anybody got a solution?19:56
zleapxubuntu148, have you tried logging out then back in again that restarts the wndow manager19:59
meek_geekdoes xubuntu 14 work with touch laptops ?20:05
Noskcaj_meek_geek, as in touchscreen?20:05
meek_geekyep20:05
knomemeek_geek, no problems running but xfce doesn't really have any optimization for touchscreen, so the experience might be subpar20:06
meek_geekknome, so we need Gnome ?20:06
meek_geekor kde ?20:06
knomei don't know the status of their touchscreen support.20:07
meek_geekonly unity works well as per you /20:07
knomei don't have a touchscreen, nor have i used one with any OS20:07
meek_geekok20:10
meek_geekknome, actually my mom gifted my laptop with Windows 8.1 on it ; but I want it wiped completely so I m wondering which Distro to choose20:11
brainwashI suggest that you download different ones and simply test it (live mode)20:15
meek_geekok20:18
WLM|wegmeek_geek: Ubuntu has touch enhancements, Xcfe doesn't really have them20:27
WLM|wegStill, both aren't that touch-friendly20:27
meek_geekWLM|weg, are you a touch laptop user ?20:28
WLM|wegI don't have a touch computer/laptop, so I haven't searched for touch-optimized distros lately.20:28
WLM|wegSo I don't really know.20:28
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kgbyo, um.. am eye seeing double? http://i.imgur.com/p7RksPo.png (what's up with the shortcuts being repeated?)20:31
kgb*any1 know?..:)20:31
knomekgb, different shortcut keys?20:32
brainwashalternative bindings20:32
nagevWhat is the name of the font used in xterm/uxterm?  I want to use the same font in xfce-terminal20:32
knomenagev, you should probably ask the xterm/uxterm developers/maintainers..20:32
brainwashshould be "fixed"20:33
brainwashlike in the linux console20:33
kgbknome: are they.. gawd, so blind / tired :-f20:41
kgb*tnx20:41
AndthenitwasHello. Would anyone know how to set up a virtual camera? For use with things like Pidgin. Webcamstudio? Thanks.23:59

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