[01:18] <sheer> hello friends
[01:18] <sheer> I get this line of text every time I open terminal
[01:18] <sheer> "groups: cannot find name for group ID 998"
[01:18] <sheer> what does that mean, why is it happening?
[02:28] <HiDeHo> hi all whats keyboard shortcut to change desktops.
[02:29] <HiDeHo> also how to assign certian apps to open on certian desktop
[03:00] <woof-woof> HiDeHo
[03:02] <HiDeHo> hi
[03:02] <HiDeHo> hi ho
[03:03] <HiDeHo> xubuntu is great. even on this arm board
[03:03] <HiDeHo> all the benifit of ubuntu without unity
[03:03] <HiDeHo> hi woof-woof
[03:06] <Gerald`> Screen resolution issue in 14.04. Can anyone help?
[03:07] <Gerald`> same problem in 12.04 and hoped the upgrade would help, but it didn't
[04:02] <sheer> hey has anyone lost their Chrome app tray icons in the last day?
[04:03] <sheer> can't get a hangouts icon any more :(
[05:05] <Mooneye> Hello. I'm not sure if this is a "don't ask to ask" kind of channel, but I'm gonna take my chances. Is there a list of all the GTK attributes XFCE uses? I'm probably using the wrong terminology here, but hopefully you guys know what I mean.
[05:11] <bazhang> whats the end goal here
[05:13] <Mooneye> I want to change a number of things in my XFCE theme. I thought it might be easier to just see all the attributes. If you want specifics, I'd adjust the positioning of the menu icon, change the alpha of the window buttons, and change the background color of window menubars.
[05:13] <Mooneye> I'd like to*
[05:13] <Mooneye> Perhaps not easier, but more useful for later on.
[05:14] <bazhang> http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/xfwm4_theme   <---- that may help
[05:16] <Mooneye> I'll read that. Thanks, bazhang.
[05:18] <bazhang> np
[06:12] <ssand4> Does anyone know a way to install xubuntu 14.04 on a usb drive on windows?
[06:15] <baizon> ssand4: you can use linuxliveusb
[06:16] <xubuntu278> Where would one go to donate to Xubuntu?
[09:51] <gry> It annoys me that by default, there's no way to add a descrption to a picture. I took some photos and would like to save some notes about them in the files metadata. -- I look and can't find anything nice and pretty which would let me do such task, either.
[10:04] <Unit193> gry: I'd file a bug report for ristretto on Xfce's bugzilla, if there isn't one already.
[10:56] <ochosi> gry: errr, gimp -> file -> properties?
[11:05] <gry> ochosi: it has a description field which is nice. But what image viewers actually show it?
[11:08] <ochosi> i think gthumb does, or shotwell
[11:08] <ochosi> many others might
[11:08] <ochosi> even thunar shows some image metadata in its properties window
[12:08] <prestin> hi guys, anyone here familiar with workspaces inside xubuntu?
[12:10] <z4nD4R> prestin: what do you need?
[12:11] <prestin> well, i basically i want the same icon that ubuntu has
[12:11] <prestin> for there workspace handler
[12:12] <prestin> im searching like hell, but can't find a simple workspace switcher button
[12:12] <z4nD4R> prestin: the same icon in panel? you meant aplet?
[12:12] <z4nD4R> prestin: there is applet.. I'm using it
[12:12] <prestin> ye, exactly
[12:13] <prestin> where can i get it?
[12:15] <elfy> right click on panel - add new item - workspace switcher
[12:17] <prestin> ye, found it in the meanwhile
[12:17] <prestin> thanks for the reply
[12:17] <prestin> it is me or is linux in general still kinda laggy
[12:17] <prestin> with dragging browsers etc
[12:21] <xubuntu068> hello
[12:22] <xubuntu068> how do I install xubuntu? load up in poweriso and run an installer? Or do I burn the image to a disc and run the disc at bootup?
[12:24] <TheSheep> !install | xubuntu068
[12:30] <xubuntu068> ok
[12:30] <xubuntu068> thanks
[14:19] <xubuntu083> i wonder why i dont get an alert for the new lts xubuntu
[14:20] <ElderDryas> Because the automagic alert will be issued when 14.04.1 is released, as it normally is.
[14:21] <xubuntu083> ok  then its no error in system
[14:22] <ElderDryas> nope, all is well :)
[14:22] <xubuntu083> thanks for the info...
[14:22] <ElderDryas> np
[14:29] <Gerald`> can someone help with lcd screen resolution on 14.04?
[14:34] <ElderDryas> Gerald`: It might help if you just ask you question with more detail.
[14:37] <ElderDryas> Guess he has no more detail :(
[14:40] <slickymasterWork> or he lost himself in translation ElderDryas
[14:41] <ElderDryas> Yeah, the subjunctive can be problematic.
[14:55] <Zabadda> Hi I have just installed 14.04 and after  I installed the nvidia drivers I can only select 1920x1200 resolution there are no other choices,  anyone had this problem?
[15:09] <ElderDryas> Zabadda: Did you try Nvidia X-Server Settlngs>X Server Display Configuration>Resolution  (it's a drop down) ?
[15:10] <xubuntu428> hello
[15:10] <xubuntu428> I installed xubuntu
[15:10] <xubuntu428> and
[15:11] <xubuntu428> Now it wont let me boot into xubuntu, it goes straight to windows 8 T_T
[15:11] <Zabadda>  ah I had a look in there but didn't see a resolution option. I'll have another check.
[15:11] <xubuntu428> I don't know what to dooo
[15:17] <GridCube> xubuntu428, you installed from a pendrive?
[15:18] <xubuntu428> no
[15:18] <xubuntu428> DVD
[15:19] <xubuntu428> this says it may be secure boot causing the problem but Idk how to turn off secure boot http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es-419&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftecnoubuntu.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F12%2F09%2Finstalar-ubuntu-12-10-junto-a-windows-8%2F&act=url
[15:23] <ElderDryas> xubuntu428: You might start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[15:24] <ElderDryas> or here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot
[15:24] <ElderDryas> FYI, here's my google search terms "ubuntu turn off secure boot" that found these.
[15:25] <GridCube> !efi | xubuntu428
[15:26] <xubuntu428> thankyou\
[15:27] <xubuntu428> ill store those links and start trying the recommendations
[15:27] <ElderDryas> Remember, we're open 24/7 :)
[15:43] <Reptilia> Does someone know what is the major difference between Xubuntu 13.10 and 14.04? I am asking because after the upgrade 13.10 --> 14.04 i noticed a major drop in overall performance. I am using a HP Compaq nx 8220 with ATI Mobility Radeon X600. Thanks in advance.
[15:43] <ElderDryas> Reptilia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu
[15:46] <Reptilia> ElderDryas:Thanks. Can't find anything that could change the way the OS behaves generally. Do you have any idea why do i experience a dramatic difference?
[15:46] <brainwash> major difference is always the newer kernel
[15:46] <ElderDryas> Nope, I didn't experience any such behavior.
[15:47] <Reptilia> brainwash:What kernel' changes could make the OS seem sluggish?
[15:48] <brainwash> possible, but not very likely
[15:48] <Reptilia> brainwash:Because this is more than noticeable, i was using Xubuntu only because it was extremely fast on my old laptop.
[15:48] <Reptilia> brainwash:And it is not anymore.
[15:49] <ElderDryas> That's interesting, nothing said about the kernel version in the release notes :)
[15:49] <brainwash> so, the whole OS is somewhat running slow?
[15:49] <Reptilia> brainwas:Yes, very slow, compared to what it used to be.
[15:49] <Reptilia> brainwash:I am waiting 5 seconds after i click on the browser icon. It was max. 1 second before.
[15:49] <brainwash> open a terminal window and run "top" to monitor the currently running processes
[15:50] <Reptilia> Sure, just a second
[15:51] <Reptilia> Xorg is first
[15:51] <Reptilia> xfce4-terminal
[15:51] <brainwash> mmh, is the slowness only related to disk read/writes? does the browser launch faster the second time?
[15:53] <brainwash> does any process consume much cpu resources while not interacting with the system?
[15:55] <brainwash> another thing you should try is to boot the 14.04 live system
[15:57] <Reptilia> Sorry, i was afk
[15:57] <Reptilia> brainwash:Well to be honest i don't know how to see what is the disk read/write speed
[15:58] <Reptilia> brainwash:Yes, the browser is launching faster the second time.
[15:58] <brainwash> you could install "iotop", but I'm not sure if it will help in this case
[15:58] <Reptilia> brainwash:What is that?
[15:59] <Reptilia> brainwash:Btw, i think processes' CPU usage is normal, not going above 2%
[15:59] <brainwash> (i)nput (o)utput top
[16:00] <Reptilia> brainwas:I don't know what "top" and "init" processes are, top consumes 0.3% and init 0.3$\
[16:00] <Reptilia> brainwas:I don't know what "top" and "init" processes are, top consumes 0.3% and init 0.3%.
[16:00] <brainwash> "top" is the tool to monitor the currently running process
[16:00] <Reptilia> oh, hence, "top"
[16:00] <brainwash> processes
[16:00] <brainwash> yeah :)
[16:01] <ElderDryas> Not that it should matter going from 13.10 to 14.04, how's the RAM situation (have, used, swap, etc)?
[16:01] <Reptilia> ElderDryas:How can i check that? :D
[16:02] <ElderDryas> top again :)
[16:02] <ElderDryas> see the top of the terminal.
[16:02] <ElderDryas> but I like htop better :)
[16:03] <Reptilia> 507120 total, 383212, 124144 free
[16:03] <Reptilia> KiB mem:507120;   KiB Swap:522236
[16:04] <Reptilia> Lol, no, wrong info, let me try again
[16:04] <Reptilia> just a sec
[16:05] <Reptilia> KiB Mem:507120 total  383492 used  123844 free  10796 buffers
[16:05] <Reptilia> KiB Swap:522236   89504 used   432732 free   220604 cached Mem
[16:06] <ElderDryas> OK, you're pushing the boundries here
[16:07] <ElderDryas> "To get a smooth experience when running multiple applications parallel on the desktop, it is recommended to have at least 1 GB of memory."
[16:09] <ElderDryas> correct me if I'm wrong brainwash, but it should run, but just don't expect a speed deamon.  You might rey looking at what's loaded at boot and drop any daemons that you don't need.
[16:09] <ElderDryas> Now, why the change between 13.10 and 14.04 on your machine, I haven't a clue.
[16:09] <Reptilia> I guess something changed in 14.04, as i said, it was fluid before
[16:10] <Reptilia> I guess i did not know what is the difference between the types of releases, and thought it will be better if i upgrade :D
[16:10] <ElderDryas> As brainwash said "kernel" , would be my guess
[16:11] <Reptilia> But since this is not my main PC, i will format and install 13.10 again
[16:12] <brainwash> why not install 14.04?
[16:12] <brainwash> fresh installation I mean
[16:12] <ElderDryas> Reptilia: remeber 13.10 eol's in july
[16:12] <Reptilia> To re-install?
[16:12] <Reptilia> ElderDryas:Yup i know :/
[16:13] <ElderDryas> Reptilia: Sometimes a re-install works better than a upgrade.
[16:13] <ElderDryas> Cleans all the cruft out.
[16:14] <Reptilia> Okay, i will do a re-install now, and see how well it performs, and come back later to tell you what i've done. Thanks a lot! :)
[16:14] <ElderDryas> np
[16:36] <meek_geek> join #freesoup
[17:39] <Reptilia> So far, it seems that the re-install fixed the problem with the lagging OS. But i will give it more time :D
[17:41] <Reptilia> Also, i noticed something weird while installing again. One of the options was the following: Install Xubuntu 14.04 LTS alongside *Ubuntu* 14.04 LTS. Why it will recognize my previous OS as Ubuntu, not Xubuntu?
[17:43] <woof-woof> Because it is based on Ubuntu.. And they didn't change it enough I guess..
[17:43] <woof-woof> So it is detected as Ubuntu
[17:45] <Reptilia> I know that it's based on Ubuntu, but if we follow that logic, it will say: "Install Ubuntu alongside Ubuntu"
[17:45] <xubuntu088> hi  i have managed to get YTD installed on my laptop useing wine but YTD will not download anything for me i need help
[17:46] <ui_> xubuntu088: what is YTD?
[17:46] <xubuntu088> youtube downloader
[17:47] <ui_> xubuntu088: consider using a native Linux alternative: VLC, get-flash-videos (command-line), minitube (paid)
[17:47] <ui_> also, miro but it seems unmaintained
[17:48] <ui_> xubuntu088: http://freecode.com/search?q=youtube&submit=Search
[17:48] <xubuntu088> miro always crashes i didnt think that mini tube did youtube downloads
[17:48] <ElderDryas> xubuntu088: You also might try #winehq for WINE support.
[17:49] <ElderDryas> Someone here <might> know, but I'd bet against it.
[17:49] <ui_> xubuntu088: http://alternativeto.net/tag/youtube-downloader/
[18:17] <Reptilia> How can i make the "Applications Menu" icon look smaller, so there will be only icon, and the text: "Applications Menu" will be gone? I know it can be done, but can't remember now how i used to do it. Thanks in advance.
[18:17] <Reptilia> Found it, lol.
[18:18] <brainwash> heh, it's pretty obvious, isn't it? :P
[18:19] <Reptilia> Yeah :)
[18:19] <ElderDryas> Easier than "Why is my computer slow?" anyway :)
[18:19] <Reptilia> Btw the lag fixed with the re-install, lol
[18:20] <Reptilia> Really want to know what made that happen
[18:20] <brainwash> re-installing is not the linux way to solve things.. or rebooting all the time.. but it magically works for many cases :)
[18:21] <Reptilia> :))
[18:21] <ElderDryas> There comes a time to say "Fish or cut bait".
[18:21] <Reptilia> LOL
[18:24] <Reptilia> Also, the screen brightness fixed. It was way too dimmed before the re-install.
[18:25] <Reptilia> Which browser will you recommend? Firefox or Chrome? Which one is faster on Linux in your experience?
[18:27] <ElderDryas> with FF 29 they starting to look alike...flip a coin :)
[18:28] <ui_> consider a lightweight alternative, like midori or surf
[18:29] <ui_> on my computer, the fire fox is actually quite fat
[18:30] <Reptilia> ui_ midori or suft? Flipping a coin? :)
[18:30] <ui_> midori feels more like a real browser, surf is governed via the keyboard and is VERY minimal
[18:30] <ElderDryas> oh, that's right, you're RAM challenged...midori (know nothing about Surf).
[18:30] <zleap> hi what is the program thing that installs passwrds and encryption keys please
[18:31] <zleap> or the program that helps me set this up
[18:31] <ui_> Reptilia: see the list of recommended apps by the XFCE team https://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps
[18:31] <Reptilia> ElderDryas:Yeah, lol, i ran "top" and firefox really consumes a lot...
[18:32] <Reptilia> ui_:Thanks
[18:32] <ui_> zleap What is the real problem, what are you trying to do?
[18:33] <zleap> i backed up .gnupg
[18:33] <zleap> then reinstalled my system and need to reimport my keys
[18:34] <ui_> zleap: I don't know anything about that, you may want to ask in #gnupg for how to import gnupg keys
[18:34] <zleap> ok
[18:36] <Reptilia> midori has a separate install for private browsing, lol?
[18:37] <ElderDryas> Yes, install once, browse twice :)
[18:37] <ui_> mm no, just launch midori, open the menu at the right, choose the private browsing
[18:38] <ui_> just as in ffox or chrome
[18:38] <Reptilia> Yeah, saw that now :D
[18:38] <ElderDryas> actually, aren't there 2 menu entries?
[18:38] <Reptilia> Yes
[18:38] <Reptilia> I'll stick with Chromium, i used to use it
[18:39] <ui_> one thing I miss from surf is indeed private browsing, but I guess I may get it with another user and Ctrl+Alt+F8
[19:56] <xubuntu194> I am having a problem with xubuntu where I can't click the task bar at all. I can't go and switch between minimized programs or right click it. Anybody got a solution?
[19:59] <zleap> xubuntu148, have you tried logging out then back in again that restarts the wndow manager
[20:05] <meek_geek> does xubuntu 14 work with touch laptops ?
[20:05] <Noskcaj_> meek_geek, as in touchscreen?
[20:05] <meek_geek> yep
[20:06] <knome> meek_geek, no problems running but xfce doesn't really have any optimization for touchscreen, so the experience might be subpar
[20:06] <meek_geek> knome, so we need Gnome ?
[20:06] <meek_geek> or kde ?
[20:07] <knome> i don't know the status of their touchscreen support.
[20:07] <meek_geek> only unity works well as per you /
[20:07] <knome> i don't have a touchscreen, nor have i used one with any OS
[20:10] <meek_geek> ok
[20:11] <meek_geek> knome, actually my mom gifted my laptop with Windows 8.1 on it ; but I want it wiped completely so I m wondering which Distro to choose
[20:15] <brainwash> I suggest that you download different ones and simply test it (live mode)
[20:18] <meek_geek> ok
[20:27] <WLM|weg> meek_geek: Ubuntu has touch enhancements, Xcfe doesn't really have them
[20:27] <WLM|weg> Still, both aren't that touch-friendly
[20:28] <meek_geek> WLM|weg, are you a touch laptop user ?
[20:28] <WLM|weg> I don't have a touch computer/laptop, so I haven't searched for touch-optimized distros lately.
[20:28] <WLM|weg> So I don't really know.
[20:31] <kgb> yo, um.. am eye seeing double? http://i.imgur.com/p7RksPo.png (what's up with the shortcuts being repeated?)
[20:31] <kgb> *any1 know?..:)
[20:32] <knome> kgb, different shortcut keys?
[20:32] <brainwash> alternative bindings
[20:32] <nagev> What is the name of the font used in xterm/uxterm?  I want to use the same font in xfce-terminal
[20:32] <knome> nagev, you should probably ask the xterm/uxterm developers/maintainers..
[20:33] <brainwash> should be "fixed"
[20:33] <brainwash> like in the linux console
[20:41] <kgb> knome: are they.. gawd, so blind / tired :-f
[20:41] <kgb> *tnx
[23:59] <Andthenitwas> Hello. Would anyone know how to set up a virtual camera? For use with things like Pidgin. Webcamstudio? Thanks.