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leedevUbuntuonair.com and the youtube page aren't showing the Q&A17:48
k1lhttps://plus.google.com/+JonoBaconProfile/posts/ChAJkVExNwb17:49
k1lat least 11minutes to go17:49
leedevusually I can open the video stream and wait wait the countdown17:50
leedev*with17:51
leedevhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpSYOFHPi9M17:52
leedevthe video feed17:53
Moondeckwow intensifies17:58
Moondeckhi17:59
MoondeckYo17:59
ahayzenjono, i can see you!17:59
thmslldsee you17:59
MoondeckYup, we can see you17:59
popeyjono: we see you!17:59
fosstereryes!17:59
GarheadeYou are visable in the meatspace.18:00
leedevbacon, I SEE YOU ;)18:00
Moondeckplay some guitar now!18:00
Zeneli see you18:00
ChloeWolfieGirlNow I see him18:00
RogerCarderCan see you (for the last time) :-(18:00
ChloeWolfieGirl<318:00
scuttlemonkeyhah, hooray for the on-air delay :P18:00
thelionroarswe can see you18:00
popeyQUESTION: Did you and sabdfl have a massive argument over beards, and is that the real reason you left?18:00
ChloeWolfieGirlquick QUESTION Did you miss me?18:00
richie4422QUESTION: Do you love me Jono? Why do you leave me Jono? :(18:00
k1lQUESTION: why did you announce your ending in canonical so near to the deadline?18:01
MarkDudeJono MFing Bacon!18:01
Nivexno question, just warm wishes on your new endeavor.18:01
DanChapman+1 popey18:01
neuroAHOY JONO!18:01
ChloeWolfieGirlGawd I already miss you Jono18:01
k1lQUESTION: do you know if there will be a new community-manager at all and who is on that list so far? :)18:01
MoondeckQUESTION is it legal to remake ubuntu and distribute it for free?18:01
MarkDude+2 popey18:01
Arifhiiii all18:01
mhall119+3 popey18:01
un_wilsonNO QUESTION: you will be missed ;)18:01
neurowhat did popey say that's being +1'd?18:02
ribaronhey18:02
ribaron:D18:02
popeyneuro: you'll find out in a moment18:02
mhall119neuro: that jono is leaving because of a beard-related argument with sabdfl18:02
popeyASK ANYTHING!18:02
DanChapman[19:01] <popey> QUESTION: Did you and sabdfl have a massive argument over beards, and is that the real reason you left?18:02
MoondeckQUESTION is it legal to remake ubuntu and distribute it for free?18:02
vasilQUESTION; Why are you living us did we did something18:02
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: did Mark shuttleworth kick you out after he found out that you was a massive elementory os and MLP fan? (BadVotage)18:02
popeyDON'T ASK ABOUT SUPPORT!18:02
neuroQUESTION: How long until you spend more time on orbit than sabdfl?18:02
Arifwhat is this18:02
popeyBUT ASK ANYTHING!18:02
popey18:02
neuroOR CONFIDENTIAL STUFF18:02
neuroBUT ANYTHING AT ALL!18:02
Zenel#question Why are the ubuntu foulders so ugly ?18:02
MarkDudelol18:02
mhall119neuro: we don't tell him confidential stuff anymore :)18:02
ahayzenQUESTION: Not really a question but... Firstly thank you and your team for creating such a welcoming and enjoyable environment for me and the other core app developers who attended the Malta sprint and for providing this opportunity to us. Secondly thank you for being such an inspiration to myself, and others, within the Ubuntu community - I'm sure many of us wouldn't have stuck around so long without your enthusiasm. Lastly I ho18:02
ahayzenpe that you enjoy your new venture to join the XPrize foundation and wish you good luck in the future :)18:02
adiQUESTION: Who will be your successor?18:03
neuroQUESTION: will you donate your sideburns to the community?18:03
popeyQUESTION: Will you be sharing rooms with co-workers at XPrize? If so, will the other person pick up your pants from the bathroom floor?18:03
MoondeckQUESTION is it legal to remake ubuntu and distribute it for free?18:03
leedevMoondeck, holy shit, man18:04
mhall119Moondeck: depends on the changes you make18:04
nhainesleedev: please be polite.18:04
joseMoondeck: stop it, please18:04
neuroQUESTION: did you take the SpaceX job because they have an 'X' in their name, and thus sounds cooler than "Canonical"?18:04
MarkDudeYes it is. You need be careful of trademark Moondeck18:04
mrbrowsntone3gQUESTION:  When are you reverting back to android on ur nexus devices or are you buying an iphone18:04
ribaronhe talks too much.18:04
ribaron:D18:04
mhall119name dropping!18:04
nhainesneuro: it's well known that jobs with X in the name are more XTREME18:04
* MarkDude is making Dude-buntu, next question :D18:04
leedevnhaines, the first thing he said was to not say the same question over and over18:04
MoondeckYeah, i just make another name, but give credit to Canonical18:04
neuroribaron: it's his last Q&A, i think he's allowed18:04
popeyjono likes pie http://imgur.com/ZsVnPv118:04
neuropopey: WHO DOESN'T?!18:05
ribaronok :D18:05
neuroDIE-A-MAN-DES!18:05
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neuroLOOK UPON MY WORKS AND ... oh, not Ozymandias, OK18:05
AirBotLogs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/05/27/%23ubuntu-on-air.html following the conclusion of the session.18:05
mhall119neuro: close, but instead of dispair it would be "marvel" or "rejoice"18:06
neuroQUESTION: Will you be INCENTIVISING COMMUNITY?!18:06
neuromhall119: hehe18:06
ribaronim from turkey18:06
neuroTRICORDER!18:06
ribaronyoutube ban here18:06
ribaron:D18:06
thelionroarsQUESTION: (actually a couple, sorry) 3 weeks ago you mentioned that the openness of the hardware for the ubuntu phone is not a big concern for the average consumer. How do you think it will affect the average desktop user of ubuntu, who probably does really value that control? Do you think it will alienate those users, and other linux users who voice lack of openness in the hardware as the main reason for wanting an alternative to18:06
thelionroarsandroid? Is a 3 year old phone (nexus 4) the best we can hope for at present?18:06
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Did Popey kick you out of your job because he wanted the place?18:06
neuroa mate of mine was in one of the tricorder posters18:06
IamIQUESTION: Do I want to know what you were really searching for when you found the "Final countdown on Ukulele" video? :D18:06
joseneuro: please, try to keep questions in lower-case18:06
esanchezQUESTION: Who will be the new Ubuntu Community Mgr. ?18:06
neurojose: please FEAR my CAPS LOCK! :)18:06
joseesanchez: please, do not repeat questions18:06
mhall119man he better start answering questions soon or he'll never get through the queue18:07
neurototally18:07
thelionroarsI stayed up till 4am here in Australia to ask that btw :)18:07
k1lmhall119: :)18:07
snwhso will there be XPRIZE Q&A after this? :P18:07
vasilQUESTION: Final quitar solo?18:07
arseniussQUESTION Do you have any advice for student who want help open source software as a work at home (for Ubuntu)?18:07
esanchezjose: sorry...didn't see it...18:07
MarkDudeQuestion- Am I the only person that fells really proud when Jono uses *big words*?18:07
neuroQUESTION: are you training Jack to replace you?18:07
Drew_Neilsonglad you're not leaving us Jono :-)18:07
nshiellQUESTION: Is there a replacement and will he/she do these Q&A?18:07
ribaronjono18:08
mhall119MarkDude: I know right, he's all grown up now :)18:08
ribaronyou say "selam turkiye"18:08
ribaronplease :D18:08
Cristian_QUESTION - Where do you see ubuntu 5 years from now ?18:08
MarkDudemhall119, +1 Blame Erica XD18:08
mhall119yeah, she's been a good influence on him and ruined everything18:08
snwhc'mon jono is irreplaceable18:08
k1lno jono2.0? :)18:08
neuroQUESTION: in tribute to today's t-shirt, have you tried In-N-Out's Animal Fries?18:09
theBestQUESTION: Can you tell us a bit about the progress of Ubuntu 14.10?18:09
mhall119theBest: tomorrow there will be an ubuntu engineering update on that progress, at 1400 UTC18:09
josemhall119: you ninja'd me18:09
mhall119right here18:09
mhall119jose: :)18:09
neuropopey: I think you need to make a jono.popey.com with a gif of bits from previous Q&A sessions18:10
ZenelQUESTION: Will the replacement  do these Q&A?18:10
neuromhall119 is such a ninja18:10
MarkDude+1 Jono gifs18:10
neuroit makes sense18:10
theBestmhall119: Thank you for the info.18:10
mhall119theBest: np, hope you can make it18:10
dickmorrellyou will be sadly missed now you have time to grow a moustache18:10
mrbrowsntone3gQUESTION:  Do you Canonical mobile parteners will try and cmpete with the Motorola Moto E'18:11
neuroconspiracy, lol18:11
theBestmhall119: I'm not sure yet, but it's on YouTube anyway.18:11
neurojono has been taken in by the MKULTRA types18:11
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nshiellQUESTION: Is there any Open Source software that you would like to use in your new job that the community hasn't made yet?18:11
nhainesQUESTION: Does this mean you'll never get the chance to ride on Canonical One?  :)18:11
Drew_NeilsonQUESTION: when will the finished version of Ubuntu for phones and tablets be available, both for installation on Nexus devices, and on commercially-available phones and tablets?18:11
neuroThe Wolverhamptonian Candidate18:11
mhall119theBest: yeah, it'll be recorded to watch later, but if you are there when it is live you can ask questions18:11
vasilQUESTION: When will mark answer our questions18:11
neuropopey: your q has been usurped!18:12
popeyYES! my question attributed to DanChapman, win!18:12
mhall119+118:12
Neo31great to see jono on air i wish he stays :)18:12
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: If your job at xprice ends up not how you want it, would you be able to go back to canonical, and would you want to?18:12
mhall119ChloeWolfieGirl: we've already told him the grounds keeper position is available if he wants it :)18:13
mrbrowsntone3gQUESTION:  Will your new position bring you back to blighty.18:13
neuromhall119: ;)18:13
popey"feedback to the sdk team" AKA, Nekhelesh laying the smack down.18:13
nhainesQUESTION: Can you strongly recommend the creation of an X-prize for an U1 file sync replacement?  :D18:13
mhall119lol18:13
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Are you leaving so you can remove Ubuntu from your mac and so you can buy an iPhone? (You an Apple for life person?)18:13
mhall119nik90_ has a list18:14
ChloeWolfieGirlmhall119, haha xD wooo18:14
RogerCarderQUESTION I feel empty about Ubuntu now your not there, don't quit Bad Voltage. All the best to you and you family.18:14
nshiellJono, many thanks for your afternoons spent chatting with us about Ubuntu; it's good to have a person rather than a mailing list18:14
gordon__QUESTION: what about Bad Voltage18:14
neurogordon__: he's already said he's going to keep doing it :)18:14
popey\o/18:14
neuropopey: haha busted18:14
neurodamn, i typed the wrong X company name, d'oh18:15
gordon__cool18:15
neurowe're a chatty bunch18:15
ChloeWolfieGirlneuro, as long as it has an X in it, Jono doesn't mind18:15
mhall119he's going to be in #ubuntu-touch giving us a hard time every day until it's perfect18:15
dickmorrellchatter thats Neuro18:15
neuroQUOTE!!!!!!!18:15
neuroand i believe most people have just shouted HOUSE for community bingo18:16
MarkDudeQUESTION- does Mark S mind the good natured comparison to James Bond villains like Ernst Stavro Blofeld? Like the rumoured Ubuntu Island with the shark tank to interview folks :D18:16
Neo31QUESTION : will you keep contributing to Ubuntu as a community member? if so what do you plan to do?18:16
* MarkDude think folks miss that Mark S has a great sense of humor. True story :)18:17
axamiany new book from you about Linux or Community?18:17
popeyhe is right ☻18:17
MarkDudeHe just had a new book,18:17
neuroQUESTION: can you confirm the real reason you're leaving is that the Canonical engineers have finally found a way to duplicate you in the cloud, and that the jo.no cluster communitises at more teraposts per second than you can?18:17
mhall119popey just wants someone to snuggle18:17
ChloeWolfieGirlpopey, do you?18:17
ChloeWolfieGirlmhall119, AWWWWWWWW18:17
neuroNO-ONE should snuggle with popey18:17
nshiellLots of Ukalale in London, weird18:18
MarkDudeWell yes popey he has always had a great sense of humour with me18:18
mhall119neuro: nah, he was replaced with a shell script long ago18:18
dickmorrellThat kazoo hand motion was dubious / practiced18:18
MarkDude +1 solos18:18
neurosame bat channel18:18
Neo31+1 solo18:18
Neo31^_^18:18
theBestguitar yes18:19
nshiellSweet18:19
MarkDudeSame Q&A- just with faaaar less Wolverhamptoniness ;)18:19
ChloeWolfieGirlJONO'S COMMUNITY Q&A WOOOO18:19
FMGrungekidQUESTION: What do you think of Christopher Lee releasing a heavy metal album on his 92nd birthday and have you had a chance to listen to it? http://news.sky.com/story/1269860/christopher-lee-turns-92-with-new-metal-album18:19
ChloeWolfieGirlFAK YUS18:19
scuttlemonkeyQUESTION: do you see the individual members of your team having more autonomy in each of the sub-communities?  I could see it being quite a challenge to keep a strong focal point w/ someone new who has new goals/focus.18:19
nhainesTime for jono to write a tell-all exposé.  :)18:19
zulmmm...sausage18:20
mhall119scuttlemonkey: I don't think it's possible to have *more* autonomy than we already had in each of our areas of focus18:20
neuroxprize.com/community/buildjonoatricorder/qna/that-guitar-is-too-loud/beard18:20
dickmorrellAre Xprize going to pay you enough to have a good bathroom lightbulb so you can manage to shave your chin properly ?18:20
neuro(URL may not work)18:20
neurodickmorrell: prefix your questions with QUESTIONL18:20
neuros/L/:/18:20
scuttlemonkeywell, "autonomy" might be the wrong word18:20
Neo31QUESTION : is there an estimation of how many phones are planned to be released with Ubuntu Touch in the first months of 2015?18:20
scuttlemonkeyfragmentation?18:20
arseniusstnx18:20
* MarkDude knows this to be true. Ubuntu folks sometimes seek out others to share knowledge <understated> Sir18:20
neuroBIG WURDZ18:20
snwhQUESTION: always important, do you eat peanut butter straight out of the jar with a spoon?18:20
scuttlemonkeymore about highlighting the "Juju" community (or others) as individual efforts18:21
popeyNeo31: we're releasing in 2014 ☻18:21
vasilQUESTION:Will you be angry if i kicked Marks Ass for leting you go18:21
mhall119^18:21
neuroa member of the community ... JUST LIKE US!18:21
popeylike the great unwashed18:21
nhainesHmm, that reminds me that I really should find my SCALE mug.18:21
scuttlemonkeymhall119: ^18:21
neuroa man of the people18:22
neuroin the people18:22
Neo31yes popey I am aware of the BQ and Mezu phones and stuff, but I wanted to see about the first months of 201518:22
toddcI am using my scale mug18:22
mhall119scuttlemonkey: if anything I hope we bring all of those different pieces closer together18:22
neurorunning from the people18:22
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Did anyone make you a leaving cake? if not I'd make one if I wasn't in the north of the UK xD18:22
joseQUESTION: what's your opinion of rms.sexy?18:22
nshiellI hope so18:22
nhainesNeo31: manufacturers have to make their own announcements.18:22
MarkDudeQuestion: will it be like the Old Pope hanging out in the Vatican with the new Pope? If #thenewjono is whom I think it will be- my question is more awesome XD18:22
neurojose: please, please, please say that's not a thing18:22
popeyNeo31: we haven't announced further partners, more news to come18:22
vasilQUESTION:Ѝие щдк жьщ18:22
joseneuro: go ahead, it exists18:22
ChloeWolfieGirljose, He doesn't have enough time to express his feelings on that?18:22
neurooh god18:22
neuroit exists18:22
neuroalthough i have confirmed it's existence by checking dns first18:23
scuttlemonkeymhall119: be interesting to watch someone new settle in...lots of moving parts :)18:23
mhall119scuttlemonkey: no doubt18:23
nik90_hello everyone18:23
thelionroarsQUESTION: After the success of 'Dealing with Disrespect', when can we expect your cookbook 'Bakin' with Bacon'?18:23
Neo31popey, how can I help marketing Ubuntu Touch devices in my country (Tunisia) and in north africa ?18:23
neurojose: MY EYES18:23
mhall119uh oh, nik90_ is here, and may have a list18:23
nik90_hi jono, mhall119, popey, ahayzen  :)18:23
popeynik90_: yo!18:23
mhall119o/18:23
neurois it a nested list?18:23
nik90_mhall119: lol...you want me to create more lists :P18:24
popeyYour lists are epic.18:24
mhall119nik90_: as long as they're not for me :)18:24
neuroi want to read 'Bakin' with Bacon'18:24
nik90_mhall119: rofl18:24
nik90_popey: ty ;)18:24
popeynik90_: http://imgur.com/NnoGhN1 us in the sdk meeting18:24
Neo31QUESTION : how can I help market Ubuntu Touch devices in my country (Tunisia) and in north Africa?18:24
neurogood lord18:24
mhall119popey: lol18:24
neurothis man eats in-n-out like a pro18:24
Drew_NeilsonQUESTION so you think it'll be a few years before Ubuntu has the same selection of apps as Android and iOS?18:24
* MarkDude would buy the cookbook18:25
nik90_popey: lol..how the hell do you find these stuff?18:25
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: are you making out that you like Ubuntu, and then on your next community Q&A when ever you hear the nme will you swear in destress?18:25
vasilQUESTION:Why Unicorn18:25
popey18:25
neuropopey is an imgur ninja18:25
nik90_neuro: +118:25
nik90_rather +1000018:25
nshiellQUESTION: Do you think other Open Source projects should do this kind of Q&A?18:25
kingQUESTION: What operating system do you use?18:25
neuroking: seriously? :)18:25
neurothat's like asking rms if he has a beard18:25
mhall119king: he uses a Mac, check out the mouse on the desk next to him18:26
neurobut that's not what he asked ;)18:26
Minska1king: of course it's MikeOS18:26
neurojono does care18:26
zulQUESTION: is your liver going to go into remission?18:26
neurohe lies18:26
mhall119zul: lol18:27
arseniussQUESTION Will Ubuntu Phone have Lite version?18:27
MarkDudePrediction; Mark S will be asking you for advice on how to deal with doing TV interviews. Jono will be on tv often soon, IMO18:28
mhall119MarkDude: with his face blurred?18:28
neurojono has already been on tv18:28
neurohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTWueMqxCSc18:28
Drew_NeilsonQUESTION: can you be more specific about when you think the first commercially-available phones will be released?18:29
k1lQUESTION: looking back at your ubuntu/canonical time. where do you think you should have acted differently? and where do you think you have been critiziced wrongly?18:29
nhainesIt felt good to say.18:29
popeyk1l: good question18:29
popeythe beard, imo, just the beard18:29
neuroyep18:29
k1l;p popey18:29
MarkDudeneuro, I mean all the time, I mean on tv often18:30
toddcQUESTION Best wishesand best of luck I have enjoyed following you here18:31
neuromark shuttleworth isn't a bond villain18:31
Drew_NeilsonQUESTION: how do I keep up with the latest news when it comes to Ubuntu for phones and tablets?18:31
neuromark shuttleworth is bruce wayne18:31
vasilQUESTION:Will you use the orange box18:31
Neo31thank you jono for the great work you've done for Ubuntu18:31
nhainesIt's like aq's superpower.18:32
neurothe power of ginger?18:32
MarkDudeQuestion; do you also find it amusing that we will likely see each other next in Portland at CLS, even tho we live nearby? Speaking of which- make sure to mention CLS, and how that still goes on :)18:32
popeyQUESTION: Will you now finally try Arch Linux?18:32
neurooh i wish18:33
mrbrowsntone3gQUESTION:  Inspite of your distate for sport will u feel conflicted if england and usa have to ai mportant game18:33
MarkDudeYes neuro - that why its funny, IMHO18:33
neuroit's taken sadly18:33
ChloeWolfieGirljo.no? FIREFOX!18:33
neuroYOU HAVE ELECTED THE WAY OF PAIN ... BY GUITAR18:33
nhainesQUESTION: is your ulterior motive in moving to X-Prize that Culver City is really close to SCALE so you can expense it?18:34
MarkDudeSo many folks think Mark S is very serious, he has some great humor. He has referred to some as muppets. If more folks had humor like this- the world would be better :)18:34
neuroQUESTION: how did everyone in Canonical react after you said you were leaving?18:34
neuro(cue some comments here, no doubt)18:35
mhall119there's in lp:sharkswithfreakinglasers18:35
MarkDudelol- yes. Humor rox!18:35
neurojono's next book: My Disappointment in Mailing List Archives18:36
CaseyBQUESTION: I may have missed it but what are you going to be doing at XPRIZE?18:37
neuroWE MUST SEE THIS SLIDE DECK18:37
nhainesCaseyB: he's going to be the Senior Director of Community.18:37
mhall119neuro: it's company confidential18:37
LevanQUESTION: World Cup starts soon, your opinions18:37
nik90_hell yeah...the awesome presentation created by mhall119, popey,  etc...18:37
neuroWE MUST SEE A REDACTED VERSION OF THIS SLIDE DECK18:37
nhainesmhall119: post it ot the manager's ML.18:38
mhall119neuro: the internet can't handle it18:38
neuroalthough it will probably be slide after slide of black screens18:38
mhall119nhaines: lol18:38
neuro"pope"?18:38
neuroHINT?!18:38
ahayzennik90_, o/18:38
Drew_NeilsonQUESTION: if I buy a Nexus 4 (used, I guess), or a Nexus 10, is it easy to install Ubuntu Touch (as easy as installing Windows)?18:39
CabooseQUESTION: Is there any chance of periodical q&a's like this in the future?18:39
mhall119neuro: no spoilers18:39
mrbrowsntone3gThe Orange Pope18:39
neuromhall119: i know nothing. genuinely.18:39
mhall119Drew_Neilson: it's easier ot install Ubuntu on those devices than installing windows on them18:39
nhainesDrew_Neilson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install18:39
LevanQUESTION: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, It kicked in you are leaving ??????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, WHY is it final ubuntu Q&A, is this a joke again ??18:39
nhainesAlso, apparently, http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/18:39
neuromhall119: but when i buy a new computers the windoes is alredy thereee!18:39
nhainesneuro: and when you buy a new Ubuntu phone Ubuntu is already there.18:40
mhall119neuro: later this year you can get the same with Ubuntu phones18:40
neuronhaines: please point me to the shop where I can go tomorrow morning and buy an ubuntu phone ... *hides*18:40
mhall119neuro: later this year, not tomorrow18:40
neurobah :)18:40
Kiko075QUESTION: Are the people in XPRIZE using Ubuntu already? :)18:40
nhainesneuro: you're going to have to wait until Ubuntu is finished.  :)18:40
neuroyou mean it's not finished?18:40
mhall119not yet18:41
vasilQUESTION:Who are you and what have you done with Jono18:41
neuro:)))18:41
nhainesneuro: nope.  A lot of people are working very hard on it.18:41
nik90_QUESTION: Would you join the app dev community in creating apps and then send your developer experience straight to bzoltan (hint hint :P ) ?18:41
neuronhaines: i'm being a troll, apols :)18:41
mhall119nik90_: BBQPad native app?18:42
neuroi can see the omgubuntu story now ... "BBQPad app suddenly top of the app store charts"18:42
* mhall119 would use it18:43
neurojeez, never regret calling rms childish :)18:43
nhainesI did the cooking on the barbecue grill yesterday for the family.  Got to break it in!  I briefly thought of Jono then.  :)18:43
LevanSay the truth are you leaving because you are planning to start Windows 98 Q&A show ??  seriously it sux that you are leaving18:43
neuroi'm off to install windows 98 now18:44
neurowhat a great OS that was18:44
nik90_mhall119: that would be cool..provides some BBQ tips and so on18:44
nhainesI've been itching to play X-Wing: Alliance again.  Haven't decided if I'm going to fight Wine or fight Windows 98 in VirtualBox.18:45
thelionroarsI really liked Dealing with Disrespect and recommended it to a couple of people. Also getting into Bad Voltage :) Congratulations on the new job, best of luck with it and I hope you enjoy your time off recording the album.18:45
OMXQUESTION: How can I be sure that the Ubuntu Touch roms made by XDA developers not include some kind of malware. Jono, good luck! A hug from Mexico.18:45
mhall119OMX: you have to trust the ROM developers, just like if you were installying Cyanogen18:46
nhainesOMX: the only way to know for sure is to examine and build the source yourself.  On the other hand, a very active port will have a lot of other people examining it.18:46
vasilQUESTION:Who are those people that were mean to you when im done with OMX marck i will kick there asses as well ps:I didnt get to tell you good job thank you for the great time and BEST OF WISHES18:46
CabooseQUESTION: What would be a good last piece of advice you could give to all ubuntu users before you go?18:46
OMXOh... I see...18:47
GarethYay SCALE :)18:47
mhall119Gareth: o/18:47
Garethmhall119: Hey :) hows it going?18:47
nhainesYay I'm going to drink with Jono next SCALE.  :)18:47
mhall119busy, especially lately :)18:47
vasilQUESTION:WHERE can i finde ubuntu 1.018:48
mrbrowsntone3gGood Luck and at XPRISE and thanks for ur ubuntu insight18:48
neurovasil: no such thing18:48
mhall119vasil: the first release was 4.1018:48
nhainesvasil: there is no Ubuntu 1.0.  The first release was Ubuntu 4.10 and it's available at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/18:48
neuroi still remember installing it18:48
Garethmhall119: awesome. :)18:49
snwhQUESTION: did you pick Malta as Mediterranean getaway for your last developer sprint?18:49
mhall119Gareth: going to make it back to another SCaLE one of these days18:49
neurogood grief, seven and a half grand?! (just looked at the orange box)18:49
nhainesneuro: it's a computing cluster.18:49
neuroi know18:49
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nhainesThat's rather cheap actually.18:50
Guest89142Will Ubuntu desktop apps like libreoffice and openshot be ported to ubuntu touch. (phone and tablet)?18:50
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Late april fools (leaving xD)18:51
mhall119Guest89142: probably not18:51
nhainesGuest89142: better to ask those development teams.18:51
neuroeven jack sounds upset (in the background)18:51
mhall119Guest89142: for apps that aren't ported, XMir will continue to run them on the desktop18:51
neuroQUESTION: can Jack come in and say hello? :)18:51
Guest89142so could tablet be turned into desktop mode?18:51
mrbrowsntone3gQUESTION:  Do you regret never recommending Skegness as a location  for a sprint.18:51
mhall119Guest89142: eventually yes, once the Unity 8 shell gets desktop mode18:52
vasilQUESTION:QUitar sololololololololololololololololololololololololo18:52
Neo31Drew_Neilson, I have a nexus 4 and i have installed ubuntu touch on it. I will be very pleased to provide help if you need it ;)18:52
ChloeWolfieGirlGuest89142, there was an interview on either the Ubuntu UK podcast or linux voice, (I think Ubuntu UK podcast) Where they said that they are going to try!18:52
ChloeWolfieGirlBUT JONO You've inspired so many people!18:52
Neo31Drew_Neilson, it is easy to install on nexus 4 that I can confirm ;)18:52
mhall119ChloeWolfieGirl: +118:52
toddc+118:52
nhainesIt's easy to install on a Nexus 5 too.  :)18:52
nhainesNow if I can get sound during phone calls that'd be great.  :P18:53
Guest89142So, if Ubuntu tablet runs on both ARM and x86/64 will the app development lean towards one archtecture?18:53
Neo31+1 solo18:53
vasilQUESTION:I wont stop asking for a quitar solo PS Good lock for your futur endevers18:53
thelionroarsso is it installable on the 2012 nexus 7?18:53
mhall119Guest89142: most of the archive is already cross-compiled for x86, amd64 and armhf18:53
theBestnhaines: Doese Ubuntu work well with Nexus 5? Or are there some problems still?18:53
nhainestheBest: no, it's not supported, so there's only a very old build available.18:53
nhainestheBest: wait, sorry.  :)18:54
nhainesthelionroars: no, it's not supported, so there's only a very old build available.18:54
mhall119nhaines: there's a G+ community for Ubuntu on the Nexus 518:54
thelionroarsthanks nhaines18:54
Neo31nhaines, i have a friend who wants to install ubuntu touch on a nexus 5. i've found what is needed on xda forum but do you have recommendations or a straitforward tutorial for him ?18:54
theBestnhaines: No problem. Don't have one anyway but maybe in the future.18:54
nhainesthelionroars: I've noticed that sound clears up very quickly and works fine, but there's no sound coming in during phone calls and the battery shows 30% of it's actual charge value.  Otherwise it works fine.18:54
nhainesNeo31: have him root his phone, install MultiROM Manager, and he's finished.  Very, very easy.18:55
mhall119nhaines: theBest: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/107225355463332672169 might have a better supported image18:55
neurolol18:55
Neo31nhaines, sound works perfectly during phone calls on nexus 418:55
nhainesNeo31: doesn't matter to me.  I don't have one.18:55
neurowish i could go for a nap at 11 in the morning :)18:55
mrbrowsntone3gGUITATR YES18:55
Neo31thanks for the hint nhaines18:55
vasilQUESTIION: Where can i finde the first ever ubuntu image18:55
thelionroarsguitar is good18:55
micah2I think it is fitting to wrap up this Q&A with guitar18:56
snwhi was hoping for a kazoo solo18:56
neurovasil: dude, 4.10, google it18:56
nhainesvasil: old-releases.ubuntu.com18:56
MarkDudeKazookaukelele-drumset next18:56
Drew_NeilsonNeo31 thank you, that is very nice of you.  I don't actually own any Nexus devices right now, but I might buy a used Nexus 4 if I can get one cheap (but in decent condition) and play around with it by installing Ubuntu on it (it would not be my primary phone).18:56
CrusaderADGood luck Jono, congrats!18:56
theBestYes to guitar.18:56
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Do you know that we love you?18:56
RogerCarderQuestion Guitar solo, something by Mark Knopler18:56
k1lguitar \o/18:56
Drew_NeilsonNeo31 or maybe I'd get a Nexus 10 instead and do the same thing.18:56
snwhQUESTION: blues guitar?18:56
Guest89142If Ubuntu ARM tablets are released, that would mean a full desktop operating system on a tablet. Do you guys see development from 3rd party or proprietary software developing for ARM ubuntu?18:56
MarkDudeExplain later- when jack is older - you HAD to wake him up, think of the metalheads18:56
Neo31QUESTION : SOLO ?18:56
nhainesAnyone who wants an Ubuntu phone but isn't a developer is probably going to be best served by just buying an Ubuntu phone.18:56
mrbrowsntone3gQUESTION:  Will you be having <Micheal Meeks on Bad Voltage.18:56
neuroDENIED18:56
mhall119oh, that was close, almost screwed up there18:56
k1ljack is not sleeping :)18:56
toddcbass no amp18:57
MarkDudeExplain later- when jack is older - you HAD to wake him up, think of the metalheads18:57
nik90_QUESTION: Do you realize we are going be forcing you to do your Q&A next week as well? :D18:57
nshiellQUESTION: What will your main responsibilities be at xprise?18:57
nik90_s/be/to be18:57
mhall119nik90_: the rest of the team will be doing the Q&A next week18:57
mhall119so you can still abuse us :)18:57
nik90_mhall119: ah yes :)18:57
MarkDudeYears from now- will Jack want a dad that ROCKED, or decided to be namby pamby and let him sleep18:57
neuroQUESTION: can you finish off by just looking into the cam and saying deadpan, in your best Arnie voice, "I'LL BE BACK"18:58
mhall119Guest89142: yes, I forsee proprietary software coming to Ubuntu on ARM too18:58
neurothis is just an excuse to make jono do an arnie voice18:58
micah2QUESTION: What was your favorite memory from your time at Canonical?18:58
Drew_Neilsonnhaines I am not a developer, that's why I was asking if it is as easy to install Ubuntu on phones and tablets as it is to install Windows on desktops and laptops.18:58
mhall119micah2: oh, good questions18:58
MarkDudeQuestion; since you cant play music- I assume you also wear Dockers- at what point did you notice you were Old?18:58
neuromhall119: you're just saying that because you didn't think of it :)18:58
alketHey jono , I was on your first and now last episode18:58
mrbrowsntone3gQUESTION:  Do XPRISE and the shuttleworth foundation collaborate18:59
vasilQUESTION:THis isnt a question but i dont care i just whant to say this was the one thing i was looking forward for this every week after one long week full of idioots that dont care about inovation and i can speek whi someone that speeks my language18:59
mhall119neuro: I've been working for him for 2 years, I'm afraid of the answer ;)18:59
RogerCarderQuestion I'm going to stand and clap at the end of your Q&A  Thanks Jono.18:59
nhainesDrew_Neilson: only for supported devices, but there's no reason to think Canonical's going to keep supporting Android devices once Ubuntu devices are out.18:59
Neo31Drew_Neilson, I don't have a nexus 10 or 7. The tablet experience is a little bit different but I guess it is good. but still Ubuntu Touch development is very hot on the Nexus 418:59
neuromhall119: in case "oh yeah, it's that time when I got to say goodbye to mhall119" :)18:59
mhall119heh18:59
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: When are you quiting XPrise to work at Canonical?19:00
neurofriday19:00
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MarkDudeNo acoustic instruments? Banjo + xprize sticker = tax writeoff AND a chance for him to sleep19:00
jk123Does Canonical expect Google to port their apps (gmail, maps, drive) over to Ubuntu Touch as native apps?19:01
mhall119kazookalele19:01
neurothat was terrible :)19:01
neurobut awesome19:01
MarkDudeLOl19:01
snwhthat's going to be a gif19:01
Neo31lol19:02
Neo31i'll be back19:02
thelionroarsnow say 'Maria, it was only the maid arrrgggh'19:02
MarkDude+1 gif- and it with worng captions19:02
Drew_NeilsonQUESTION: when Ubuntu phones and tablets are commercially available, will development for Ubuntu on Nexus devices continue?19:02
jk123Question: Does Canonical expect Google to port their apps (gmail, maps, drive) over to Ubuntu Touch as native apps?19:02
vasilQUESTION: Will you come to bulgaria19:02
nshiellJazz music in Prague is awsome19:02
neurojazz music in prague is jazzy19:02
Neo31Drew_Neilson, there is BQ and Meizu already ;) more to expect soon19:02
nshiellQUESTION: Do you think Open Source should do more crowd funding, like the edge?19:02
theBestWhen was the first Q&A Hangout with Jono?19:03
neuroQUESTION: and for the first time, I'll abuse the not-asking-a-question thing: dude, you're awesome, best of luck at XPrize (got it right this time) and hopefully will see you soon19:03
alketjono: don't go , you are the icon of ubuntu (joking good luck)19:03
mhall119thanks for everything jono :)19:03
thmslldThanks Jono!19:04
thelionroarsthanks jono :)19:04
Drew_NeilsonQUESTION: I should clarify my question: when Ubuntu phones and tablets are commercially available, will development BY CANONICAL for Ubuntu on Nexus devices continue?19:04
ChloeWolfieGirlI'LL BE THERE JONO19:04
nhainesOh man, I just realized I should've called jono on the phone and crashed the Q&A.19:04
neurocheers jono, you crazy bearded baldy man19:04
Neo31Thank you jono19:04
nhainesYou escaped this time, jono!19:04
MarkDudeRock on Dude. Enjoy your time off- and let's grill some things....19:04
ahayzenthanks jono :)19:04
* nhaines shakes fist.19:04
mhall119Drew_Neilson: probably, because the Nexus devices are good for that kind of development19:04
theBestjono: Your Q&A's won't be on Ubuntu on air? Where to find you? :D19:04
alketthank you jono19:04
k1lthanks jono, good luck for your new task19:04
nik90_thanks jono..wish you the best :)19:04
ChloeWolfieGirl<319:05
neurothe afterparty is in #badvoltage!!!!19:05
jk123You Rock Jono!19:05
jonothanks, everyone!19:05
* MarkDude <3 Jono too :D19:05
jonowill blog about where my Q&As will be19:05
nhainesjono: thanks for another great Q&A, jono.  :)19:05
ChloeWolfieGirlWE ALL LOVE JONO, BUT EXPECIALLY ME!19:06
alketChloeWolfieGirl: me more :D19:06
Minska1Thank you, Jono! Best of luck!19:06
neurojono: minus several million style points for using "blog" as a verb ;)19:06
jonoChloeWolfieGirl, :-)19:06
jononeuro, screw you :-)19:06
neurohaha19:06
MarkDudelol19:06
ChloeWolfieGirlalket NUUUU I love Jono more!19:06
neuroChloeWolfieGirl: i think his wife will have something to say about that :)19:06
alketbye everyone , and good luck on this sad day19:06
MarkDudeneuro, his verb use was STELLAR there XD19:06
ChloeWolfieGirlneuro Maybe... I think she'll be fine if... I hide and stay away from jono forever xD19:07
neuroMarkDude: you LIE, sir19:07
mhall119neuro: 'log' can be a verb, why not 'blog'?19:07
RogerCarderSee you all soon.19:07
* MarkDude makes stories more interesting :D19:07
neuromhall119: because 'newspaper' is not a verb19:08
neuro"I'm totally going to newspaper this story"19:08
MarkDudeObjects can be verbs19:08
neuroyour mom's a verb19:08
* neuro runs :)19:08
MarkDudeSure you could choose tapping, but I could also tap you with newspaper and others19:09
ChloeWolfieGirlI love you guys xD19:09
MarkDudeI would be newspapering19:09
neuroyeah but the meaning of "tap" in the verb context is not the same as "tap" in its noun context19:09
neuroyou don't say "i'm going to tap a glass of water19:09
neuroand i'd say "tapping a keg" is an edge case19:09
neurobefore anyone else says it19:10
MarkDudeWere I to drill a hole- in said glass- I would be tapping the glass19:10
neurono, you'd be drilling the glass19:10
mhall119can you tap a blog, or blog a tap?19:10
neuroyou're just making stuff up now19:10
neuroi hate you all19:10
neuroi don't really19:10
RogerCarderChloewolfiegirl I think you really will miss Jono here.19:10
neuroyes i do19:10
MarkDudeWhat are your plans? Tap a glass of water19:10
neuroi'm fickle19:10
MarkDudeThe act of doing something- can be a verb19:10
ChloeWolfieGirlRogerCarder Yeah..19:10
neuroSTOP TOUCHING ME19:10
MarkDudeDepending on the style guide one uses19:11
neuroi think you're just making **** up19:11
RogerCarderYou'll have to follow him to the Q&A, see you there!19:12
MarkDudeNope, of course- your main point is correct- at least partially, but style has loosened a bit19:12
RogerCarder*New19:12
neuroi'm not saying you can't say it, just that - in my book - several million style point penalty, if you please19:12
* MarkDude wonders how trolly it would be to say"your correct" and go to get some more coffee19:13
ChloeWolfieGirlhaha yeah, I'll be there... Start raiding the new cupboard's of the new Q&A19:13
neurowell, you're saying "your" instead of "you're", so ...19:13
MarkDudeYes, trolly19:13
neuroprobably accurate within the troll milieu19:13
MarkDude:)19:13
neuroor, what you said19:13
Drew_NeilsonI have a question: you know how with Android you cannot make icons, text, etc. bigger on your screen like you can with Windows 7?  Can you do that with Ubuntu for phones and tablets?19:14
neurolook, you're all wrong, i'm right, pfff19:14
neuroDrew_Neilson: you've missed the Q&A, you know this, yes?19:14
nhainesDrew_Neilson: not at the moment.19:14
MarkDudeIMHO, blog used as a word indicates a sense of being stuck in 2008, forget verbage19:14
ChloeWolfieGirlDrew_Neilson I could imagine that being something in the future19:14
neuroMarkDude: o rly?19:15
neurowhat would you suggest instead?19:15
neurofor a website mainly consisting of posts presented ordered by time descending?19:15
MarkDudeTumblr19:15
Drew_Neilsonneuro: yes I know that the Q&A session has ended.19:16
neuroDrew_Neilson: ok19:16
neuroMarkDude: that's a service19:16
neurothat does blogs19:16
MarkDudeWell I think blog makes it sem less important than it can be19:16
RogerCarderSee ya all soon.19:16
neuroMarkDude: i think you're attaching too much importance to the word :)19:16
MarkDudeFull circle- agreed :)19:17
neuro:)19:17
neuroyou just want to go make a coffee, don't you :)19:17
MarkDudeNice to be able to talk to a grownup that is willing to be silly too :)19:17
neurowho says i'm a grownup!?!?19:17
MarkDudeMaybe the other way 'round19:18
neuroWHO?!19:18
MarkDudeXD19:18
neurobah distinct lack of video on the q&a youtube page so far19:18
neuroi have youtube-dl standing by ...19:18
Drew_NeilsonI was wondering about that because on my brother's old Android phone, which is now mine, all the icons and text are rightly-sized (in my opinion), but on brand-new Galaxy S4s, the text and icons appear smaller than I would like.  At least, that's what I thought when I looked at the S4 at Best Buy.19:19
neurohigher res19:19
Drew_Neilsonneuro yes I figured that, that'19:19
Drew_Neilsonneuro that's why I wondered if Ubuntu for phones and tablets allows you to adjust the scale to make elements bigger (bigger icons, text, etc.).  I've been told that Android doesn't allow users to do that.19:20
Drew_Neilsongotta go, cya19:22
rrohdeQuestion - Jono, will you continue to use Ubuntu?19:23
rstreeterHello jono19:23
neurorrohde: you missed it19:23
neurofinished 20 mins ago19:24
rrohde@neuro Oh... what did he say  - will he use Ubuntu still?19:24
neurohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpSYOFHPi9M19:24
rrohdethanks19:25
rstreeterQUESTION: When will the convergence be complete for the code base19:25
neurorstreeter: um ... :)19:26
neuro20:24 <neuro> finished 20 mins ago19:26
visoosI think i'm late19:31
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