[01:23] <RobbyF> is there a native client yet?
[01:24] <RobbyF> email client that is
[01:28] <mhall119> RobbyF: Trojita is being worked on
[03:20] <AskUbuntu> Slow internet connection problem with a high speed mobile hotspot | http://askubuntu.com/q/472724
[06:21] <cyphermox> Wellark: you should discuss your network design questions with mpt; he's here right now, we can clear up all your questions for the UI
[06:22] <cyphermox> the autoconnect property / auto-connect to previous networks part is certainly a lot clearer now ;)
[06:45] <dholbach> good morning
[06:46] <mpt> cyphermox, Wellark: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking?action=diff&rev2=188&rev1=187
[06:53] <Wellark> cyphermox, mpt: sure. we have a meeting reserved for discussion on tomorrow
[06:53] <jdstrand> ted: sorry, you only wanted the dbusified click pakgname (APP_PKGNAME_DBUS), correct?
[06:54] <ted> jdstrand, Correct
[06:54] <jdstrand> ok, thanks
[06:54] <ted> jdstrand, No, thank you! :-)
[06:54] <jdstrand> hehe
[06:58] <ted> mardy, Looking at the UAL name change, and online accounts didn't come up in my list. Are you using UAL?
[06:59] <mardy> ted: not yet, I've a branch for it, but it's still WIP; I'll take care of the rename myself, thanks
[06:59] <ted> mardy, Cool, okay.
[07:19] <rastko> .
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[07:31] <thomi> jdstrand: a gentle reminder to review sphinxcontrib-youtube for me please when you have a moment :)
[07:45] <mpt> cyphermox, the issue with not connecting automatically to Wi-Fi also came up in the comments of bug 1276218
[08:53] <elopio> rsalveti: the emulator should install by default devel or devel-proposed?
[08:54] <rsalveti> elopio: I think it's currently using devel by default, sergiusens should know
[08:58] <oSoMoN> didrocks, once a package has landed and its silo has been purged, is the corresponding build log archived somewhere?
[08:59] <sergiusens> elopio: rsalveti it should be devel; sdk req
[08:59] <sergiusens> and it's the one that always works (or should at least)
[08:59] <sergiusens> as a dev, you may not want that; but it's like recommending people to install utopic by default
[09:02] <elopio> sergiusens: ack. It's wrong on the wiki page, I'll update it.
[09:03] <oSoMoN> didrocks, nevermind, I found the logs from the PPA :)
[09:03] <sergiusens> elopio: sounds good
[09:07] <jdstrand> thomi: yes, it is not forgotten-- I just haven't gotten to it yet. I will
[09:07] <thomi> jdstrand: cool - thanks :)
[09:09] <didrocks> oSoMoN: I guess sil2100 will answer you on that :)
[09:09] <didrocks> but yeah, the build logs can be found
[09:09] <didrocks> (for a few days)
[09:10] <oSoMoN> didrocks, sil2100: I’m looking at bug #1323551, the build log says the mo files were built and installed, however when inspecting the deb I’m getting from the archive, it doesn’t contain the mo files, I’m puzzled…
[09:10] <oSoMoN> any idea what might be going on?
[09:16] <oSoMoN> ah, it looks like the culprit is pkgstriptranslations
[09:27] <sil2100> oSoMoN: oh, so you found the culprit? :)
[09:28] <oSoMoN> sil2100, yes, I figured it out, webbrowser-app is in main, so translations should ship as part of language packs, not in the package itself
[09:38] <rsalveti> elopio: thanks for updating the wiki
[09:38] <elopio> np
[09:39] <Guest83481> Good morning all; happy Tuesday and happy Sun Screen Day! :-D
[09:41] <dobey> when is the calculator app going to be updated?
[11:09] <daker> JamesTait: i knew it was you even with the "Guest83481" nickname :D
[11:18] <JamesTait> daker, I wonder why. :-P
[11:35] <arlekin> hi all, could anyone give me an opinion about ubuntu on phone ?
[11:43] <t1mp> arlekin: it is awesome!
[11:43] <arlekin> t1mp: really ? im wonder to change to be google-independent
[11:43] <javigon> +1
[11:46] <arlekin> and how it is with all this fuss about seamless desktop app porting ?
[11:55] <t1mp> arlekin: well that is my opinion :)
[11:55] <t1mp> arlekin: you can try it out for free if you have a device that you can install it on
[11:55] <t1mp> !devices | arlekin
[11:56] <arlekin> t1mp: oh i know, but i want some "user feedback" before i'll commit some amount of time ;)
[11:56] <arlekin> what did u use before btw ?
[11:58] <t1mp> arlekin: I used N9 before. And I'm a developer for ubuntu touch, maybe not the most standard user
[11:59] <t1mp> arlekin: https://www.google.nl/search?q=ubuntu+touch+review&oq=ubuntu+touch+review for more opinions
[12:02] <arlekin> i see
[12:02] <arlekin> thanks :D
[12:52] <lool> cyphermox: Hey, just FYI seems like urfkill is misbehaving within x86 emulator
[12:52] <lool> cyphermox: it's respawning a lot, seems to slow down boot
[12:52] <cyphermox> lool: yeah, I know I fixed it already, testing the fix on my mako right now
[12:53] <lool> ok thanks
[12:55] <Saviq> rsalveti, is it expected that creating a x86 emulator takes a lot of time?
[12:56] <rsalveti> Saviq: nops, it uses a bunch of i/o when creating the base snapshot
[12:56] <rsalveti> but it shouldn't take a long time, no
[12:56] <Saviq> rsalveti, it's at "Setting up..." for me for like 10 minutes now...
[12:57] <Saviq> rsalveti, ah crap /me stupid --arch=armhf
[13:02] <sil2100> mterry__: hi! Did you rebuild everything in your split greeter silo, making sure everything is publishable? :)
[13:02] <ogra_> :D
[13:02] <ogra_> sil2100, we need to wait ~20-30min still, else half of the stuff might end in the currently building image indeed
[13:03] <sil2100> Right, just making sure everything is ready for take-off
[13:03] <ogra_> yeah
[13:03]  * ogra_ is excited now 
[13:13] <mterry__> sil2100, I did rebuild everything.  But unity8 is about to have a separate landing, which means I'll need to re-merge and rebuild
[13:14] <sil2100> mterry__: are you coordinating it with them? I guess it's up to you guys to decide on the order of landings
[13:14] <mterry__> sil2100, yeah, they were supposed to be going through first (seems like they haven't finished yet)
[13:16] <mhall119> ogra_: ever since I returned from Malta my phone hasn't re-joined my local carrier (I didn't have any service in Malta)
[13:17] <mhall119> any idea where I should look for error messages as to why?
[13:18] <ogra_> mhall119, syslog i guess ... ask awe_, Wellark or abeato_ (or even cyphermox for NM issues)
[13:18] <ogra_> are you sure you are not out of credit or some such ?
[13:19] <awe_> mhall119, take a look at NetworkManager output in /var/log/syslog, ditto for ofonod
[13:20] <awe_> mhall119, also...  the output of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems would be helpful too
[13:21] <awe_> and maybe add a "| grep Online" to that command first
[13:21] <awe_> to see if your modem is online
[13:22] <awe_> mhall119, actually if you're not registering to your local carrier, forget about NM log messages
[13:22] <awe_> the output of list-modems is more important ( especially the Online property )
[13:29] <mhall119> awe_: /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems returns nothing
[13:29] <awe_> that's not good...
[13:29] <daker> mhall119: mine too
[13:29] <mhall119> daker: having the same problem?
[13:29] <awe_> do you have any crash files in /var/crash?
[13:29] <daker> yep
[13:29] <awe_> mhall119, also what image are you running?
[13:29] <mhall119> awe_: one for indicator-network-service
[13:30] <mhall119> r44 from devel channel
[13:30] <awe_> mhall119, ok maybe time to look for ofono messages in /var/log/syslog
[13:30] <daker> awe_: mine is r49
[13:30] <mhall119> awe_: anything I should grep for in syslog?
[13:30] <awe_> ofono
[13:30] <mhall119> gives nothing
[13:31] <awe_> daker, are you also seeing no modems returned by list-modems?
[13:31] <mhall119> ah, syslog.1 has some ofono stuff
[13:31] <awe_> mhall119, what's the device?  mako?
[13:31] <awe_> mhall119, what about "status ofono"?
[13:31] <mhall119> mako
[13:32] <mhall119> stop/waiting
[13:32] <mhall119> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7529323/ is from syslog grepping
[13:33] <mhall119> start ofono gives me a procid, but then status again says stop/waiting
[13:33] <awe_> mhall119, can yo check the file /etc/init/ofono.override and see whether or not the command-line ends with "hfp"?
[13:34] <mhall119> sure, also http://paste.ubuntu.com/7529336/ is in syslog after trying to start ofono
[13:34] <awe_> we had a weird problem last week were ofono was exiting due to a problem with the BT plugin
[13:34] <pmcgowan> awe_, you guys talking about no cell connection?
[13:34] <awe_> pmcgowan, no
[13:34] <mterry__> ogra_, I tried making /etc/group and /etc/shadow be bind-mounted as persistent.  But then my machine didn't boot.  :)  I used the transition flag (which I thought would keep existing content?) but maybe there is an obvious flag I'm missing that I'd need?
[13:34] <mhall119> exec ofonod -P stktest,provision,sap,udev,dun,smart is in ofono.override
[13:34] <awe_> ofono isn't running
[13:34] <mhall119> well, ofono not running causes no cell connectoin
[13:35] <pmcgowan> awe_, oh, cause I have none on my mako, I thought it was just not roaming last week but same here at home now
[13:35] <awe_> mhall119, ok...we rolled out a fix which adds "hfp" to the end of that list
[13:35] <mhall119> pmcgowan: run 'status ofono' and see if it's running
[13:35] <mterry__> ogra_, looks like there's a pattern in /etc/ where we put hostname, timezone, etc in /etc/writable.  Maybe that would be good here..  Let me test
[13:35] <mhall119> awe_: and that fix hasn't been promoted yet I assume
[13:36] <awe_> mhall119, it has... we just haven't promoted a stable image for a loooong time
[13:36] <mhall119> r44 was last week
[13:36] <awe_> that's a long time ago
[13:36] <awe_> and the bug in question was fixed last thu
[13:36] <mhall119> ok, so how can I get my *only* phone working as a phone again?
[13:37] <daker> awe_: for me i can see the modem http://paste.ubuntu.com/7529359/
[13:37] <pmcgowan> awe_, it said not running then it started it
[13:37] <pmcgowan> but still not getting calls or text
[13:37] <mhall119> pmcgowan: check again if it's running
[13:37] <mhall119> for me it'll start then die immediately
[13:37] <awe_> well... I can only debug on device at a time
[13:37] <pmcgowan> yes its running
[13:37] <awe_> pmcgowan, is it online?
[13:38] <awe_> try /usr/share/ofono/scripts | grep Online
[13:38] <pmcgowan> how do I know
[13:38] <awe_> mhall119, is your phone writable?
[13:38] <mhall119> awe_: not yet
[13:38] <awe_> if not, are you must be pointed at devel-proposed for updates, right?
[13:38] <awe_> if so, connect to wifi and update?
[13:39] <awe_> mhall119, we landed flight-mode infrastructure last week, and there was some hiccups in the landing... sorry you got hit by this
[13:39] <pmcgowan> awe_, sorry what should I do with the scripts?
[13:39] <awe_> run the command above
[13:39] <awe_> eg... # /usr/share/ofono/scripts | grep Online
[13:40] <awe_> that will tell us if the modem is online or not
[13:40] <pmcgowan> scripts is a dir
[13:40] <awe_> sorry add list-modems
[13:40] <mhall119> awe_: I'm pointed at 'devel' channel for updates, -proposed is too unpredictable for a dialy driver
[13:40] <awe_> so did you flash 44?
[13:41] <pmcgowan> awe_, Online = 1
[13:41] <mhall119> awe_: I did last week when it was promoted yet
[13:41] <mhall119> yes
[13:41] <pmcgowan> awe_, working now but I happened to run online-modem
[13:43] <awe_> mhall119, then you're in a catch-22 situation....  if you can't update from proposed, and the phone's not writable, then I'm not sure what to say other than flash a newer image
[13:44] <awe_> ogra_, cyphermox, any ideas guys???  ^^
[13:44] <mhall119> awe_: I can make the phone writable and edit the override file, if that will fix it
[13:44] <awe_> mhall119, do you have BT enabled on any of your other devices?
[13:44] <awe_> mhall119, also have you tried rebooting?
[13:44] <mhall119> tried rebooting, nothing else has bt
[13:45] <pmcgowan> awe_, after a reboot the modem is offline again
[13:45] <awe_> cyphermox, ^^
[13:45] <awe_> pmcgowan, what image?
[13:45] <pmcgowan> I am on 50 but this happened since 44 I think
[13:46] <pmcgowan> I just thought it was cause I was in malta
[13:46] <mhall119> yeah, that was bad timing for a modem break, those of us who didn't have a local carrier didn't even notice
[13:47] <awe_> well again, we landed flight mode infrastructure last week, and obviously didn't go a good enough job testing
[13:47] <awe_> there was some race conditions, and a separate problem with BT hfp that happened all at once
[13:47] <awe_> s/was/were/
[13:47] <dobey> oh
[13:47] <pmcgowan> awe_, so obviously still broken in 50
[13:47] <dobey> well that explains why my n5 isn't connecting to the network
[13:47] <dobey> maybe
[13:48] <awe_> pmcgowan, I need to track down cyphermox
[13:48] <cyphermox> moo?
[13:48] <pmcgowan> awe_, ok, standing by
[13:48] <awe_> again, there's one other race condition we know about
[13:48] <awe_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/urfkill/+bug/1321164
[13:48] <awe_> which I believe is generic, and not related specifically to MTK
[13:48] <awe_> abeato_, ^^
[13:48] <mhall119> awe_: I'm making my phone writable, what was it I needed to add to the override file?
[13:49] <awe_> however as the bug hasn't been updated, I don't know if the fix was landed or now
[13:49] <abeato_> awe_, yeah, I was reading, it looks like the same problem for pmcgowan
[13:49] <awe_> mhall119, well if you don't have BT enabled on other devices, then it's probably not the issue you're facing
[13:49] <dobey> what's the workaround to bring the modem online?
[13:49] <mhall119> oh, hello, it's connected this time...
[13:49] <pmcgowan> seems the indicator should tell me I have no cell connection
[13:50] <mhall119> awe_: I swear I didn't change anything
[13:50] <awe_> well...that was another bug that happened
[13:50] <abeato_> dobey, execute /usr/share/ofono/scripts/online-modem
[13:50] <awe_> the last two weeks were not good for networking
[13:50] <mhall119> awe_: quick, since it's suddenly working, is there any information I can get you that would help in debugging?
[13:50] <awe_> mhall119, no worries... I'm just kind of stymied why you hit this.  maybe the phone was running out of memory?
[13:50] <dobey> i guess that is not my issue then :(
[13:51] <awe_> mhall119, the syslog was pretty empty
[13:51] <mhall119> awe_: I tried deleting things yesterday and rebooting but that didn't do anything then
[13:51] <awe_> it basically looked like ofono was exiting with no error messages and no crash files
[13:51] <awe_> very bizarre
[13:51] <daker> awe_: for me i did run online-modem which did the trick for me, then i did reboot the phone and the model is online and connected
[13:51] <mhall119> awe_: if it helps the latest syslog grep for ofono is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7529475/
[13:52] <abeato_> awe_, mhall119 I hit that too, mhall119 does /dev/rfkill exist?
[13:53] <mhall119> abeato_: yes, but my modem is also working now
[13:53] <awe_> mhall119, we need to just look at the latest syslog
[13:53] <awe_> the dot files are older wrapped files
[13:54] <awe_> it looks like a system problem to me...  upstart is trying to start ofono
[13:54] <mhall119> awe_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7529494/ is from the latest syslog file
[13:54] <awe_> yet it's already running
[13:54] <awe_> mhall119, brb, quick nature break
[13:55] <mhall119> my /home/ partition is almost out of space though
[13:55] <mhall119> but it has less space now than it did yesterday when I was deleting old log files and rebooting
[13:57] <pmcgowan> abeato_, I lose connection every boot fwiw
[13:58] <cyphermox> pmcgowan: abeato_: almost ready for testing: https://launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+archive/nv-build/+sourcepub/4200213/+listing-archive-extra
[14:02] <cyphermox> we also landed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc-android-config/0.169 ; pmcgowan, abeato_, you might also need this for small bluetooth ofono plugins that got disabled that may impact ofono starting
[14:03] <nik90_> charles: ping
[14:03] <awe_> mhall119, any chance you were doing any messaging_app or dialer_app autopilot testing?
[14:03] <abeato_> cyphermox, ok, great
[14:09] <davmor2> hey guys what project does contact sync belong to is it online accounts?
[14:10] <mhall119> awe_: nope
[14:14] <kenvandine> davmor2, sync-monitor
[14:14] <davmor2> kenvandine: thanks
[14:14] <kenvandine> np
[14:16] <charles> nik90_, pong
[14:17] <nik90_> charles: How is the sprint? Did you have time for the alarm wake deep sleep MP? Your MP is the only thing we are waiting on.
[14:20] <charles> nik90_, let me PM you some of this log st I don't flood #ubuntu-touch
[14:22] <awe_> mhall119, did you explicitly run "start ofono"?
[14:24] <mhall119> awe_: yes, before I rebooted, and it didn't work
[14:24] <mhall119> I also tried running the online-modem script and it failed with an error
[14:25] <awe_> ok
[14:25] <mhall119> but, after rebooting and not changing anything other than making the device writable, it was working again
[14:25] <mhall119> so unless making it writable was the fix, I don't know what happened
[14:26] <AskUbuntu> Phone Nokia Asha 202 | http://askubuntu.com/q/472935
[14:26] <davmor2> kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sync-monitor/+bug/1323675 not sure if it is you but do you know if there are any logs that would be useful?
[14:27] <kenvandine> davmor2, i think ~/.cache/sync-monitor.log
[14:27] <davmor2> kenvandine: thanks dude
[14:27] <kenvandine> bfiller, ^^ anything else?
[14:30] <bfiller> davmor2: yes sync-monitor.log should give all relevant info
[14:33] <daker> Saviq: hi
[14:35] <daker> Saviq: do you know, why the clock on welcome screen and the indicator-time does show the old time before the screen went off ? it takes like 10sec to update the time
[14:36] <mhall119> longer sometimes, especially if it's had the screen off all night
[14:37] <daker> aha
[14:37] <daker> yes
[14:37] <davmor2> kenvandine, bfiller: thanks guys I've added both the first that was gz'd had a whole heap of 200 errors so I'm assuming that is what locked up the sync and that it left the db in an odd state but that is just pure guess work on my behalf :)
[14:37] <elopio> sergiusens:
[14:37] <elopio> $ initctl stop unity8
[14:37] <elopio> $ upstart-app-launch dialer-app
[14:37] <elopio> we just need to change the tests to start the app with upstart instead of the desktop hint.
[14:41] <mhall119> mdeslaur: where was tipcalc last week when I could have used it in Malta?
[14:41] <mdeslaur> mhall119: hehe, I'm in malta now, why do you think I wrote it? :)
[14:41] <pmcgowan> mhall119, they dont tip in malta btw
[14:41] <pmcgowan> unless its us tourists ;)
[14:42] <mhall119> pmcgowan: well they kept the bar open 30 minutes late for us, they deserved it
[14:42] <pmcgowan> mhall119, indeed
[14:42] <mhall119> mdeslaur: this is darn handy though, and simple
[14:42] <mhall119> I love the sliders for % and # of people
[14:43] <mdeslaur> I need to fix a few things still
[14:43] <mhall119> mdeslaur: only it doesn't handle > 999.00 very well
[14:43] <mdeslaur> yeah, that's one of them
[14:43] <mdeslaur> I also added $ signs
[14:43]  * kenvandine doesn't think that's a big problem :)
[14:43] <mdeslaur> (which I'll localize)
[14:43] <mhall119> mdeslaur: it shouldn't matter, the math works the same regardless of currency
[14:43] <mdeslaur> yeah, but it looks better with them
[14:44] <mdeslaur> hrm, I'll think about it
[14:44] <mhall119> kenvandine: it is if you accidentally hit a button more than once and you only see the last 3
[14:44] <mhall119> I hade 1121.00, but only saw 121.00
[14:44] <kenvandine> ah... but it still calculates 1121
[14:45] <kenvandine> that could be bad :)
[14:45] <mhall119> so I was confused when, split across 9 people, each person owed 124
[14:45] <mdeslaur> "OK guys, you each owe me 1e09"
[14:45] <mhall119> lol
[14:45] <mhall119> "maybe we should tip less"
[14:46] <mdeslaur> the text boxes aren't the same size on real hardware...I think I've found the issue, but will wait to test on a real phone before uploading a new version
[14:46] <mdeslaur> for some reason, textareas aren't using the ubuntu font on real hardware
[14:46] <mdeslaur> (and in the emulator)
[14:48] <mhall119> mdeslaur: you're right, that's odd
[14:49] <mdeslaur> mhall119: I told zsombi
[14:49] <mhall119> mdeslaur: file a bug against the ui toolkit
[14:49] <mhall119> if it's not in a bug report, it's not tracked
[14:50] <zsombi> mhall119: mdeslaur: as said, Ubuntu touch aint seems to have the Ubuntu font family set by default
[14:50]  * mdeslaur files bug
[14:50] <mhall119> zsombi: labels seem to use it though
[14:51] <zsombi> mhall119: yes, because we enforce it
[14:51] <mhall119> oh, mdeslaur are you using an upstream component?
[14:52] <mhall119> bfiller: ping
[14:52] <zsombi> mhall119:
[14:52] <mdeslaur> mhall119: hrm?
[14:52] <bfiller> mhall119: pong
[14:52] <mhall119> bzoltan: can you or someone on your team be a track lead for the Ubuntu Online Summit?  They will mainly be requesting sessions and approving/scheduling them, though they will also help session speakers with setting up a hangout if needed
[14:52] <zsombi> mhall119: the thing is that enforcing in Label has its performance drawbacks... so we coudl do that as well in Text inputs, but that's not right, Qt should pick up the value from settings
[14:53] <mhall119> bfiller: ^^ I asked during the sprint about you being a track lead
[14:53] <mdeslaur> mhall119, zsombi: bug 1323697
[14:53] <mhall119> mdeslaur: QtQuick provides an input component, IIRC, which doesn't get the Ubuntu.Component's StyledItem
[14:53] <thomi> charles: lp:~thomir/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk-fix-ugly-bits
[14:54] <mdeslaur> mhall119: I dunno, I'm using this: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.Components.TextField/
[14:54] <mhall119> ah, nvm then
[14:57] <charles> thomi, thank you :-)
[15:01] <elopio> bfiller: is somebody from your team available to review and merge stuff?
[15:01] <elopio> I need a dialer-app branch.
[15:02] <bfiller> elopio: boiko could review it
[15:02] <elopio> I'm almost sure boiko told me he had holidays.
[15:03] <bfiller> elopio: he's around today
[15:03] <bfiller> ted: you around?
[15:03] <elopio> I might be confused though. There's another guy here this week that looks just like boiko :)
[15:03] <mhall119> we really needed IRC nick nametags
[15:06] <Rienzilla>  
[15:12] <ted> bfiller, Yup, what's up?
[15:13] <bfiller> ted: any ideas how to debug this? think it's an issue with url-dispatcher https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/url-dispatcher/+bug/1323654
[15:13] <bfiller> seems to be a problem with https:// links
[15:13]  * ted clicks
[15:14] <ted> bfiller, is there anything in the url-dispatcher.log ?
[15:14] <bfiller> ted: let me check
[15:17] <bfiller> ted: nope url-dispatcher log is not getting updated at all
[15:17] <bfiller> ted: only see stuff in the gmail webapp log
[15:18] <ted> bfiller, Hmm, okay. Let me look, just finished testing a silo.
[15:19] <bfiller> ted: ok thanks, let me know if you need any help as I have it in that state and not sure if it always fails (dbarth says it's working for him)
[15:20] <ted> bfiller, Does https://launchpad.net work for you?
[15:20] <ted> That works for me.
[15:20] <bfiller> ted: no
[15:20] <bfiller> same error
[15:21] <ted> Hmm, they both work for me :-/
[15:21] <bfiller> ted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7530073/
[15:22] <ted> bfiller, sqlite3 .cache/url-dispatcher/urls-1.db "select * from urls"
[15:22] <bfiller> ted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7530080/
[15:23] <ted> bfiller, Huh, not there.
[15:23] <ted> bfiller, cat /usr/share/url-dispatcher/urls/webbrowser-app.url-dispatcher
[15:24] <bfiller> ted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7530082/ seems ok
[15:24] <ted> Huh, yeah
[15:25] <bfiller> ted: is that comma correct in the url-dispatcher file?
[15:25] <ted> bfiller, Yeah, for each array entry.
[15:25] <ted> bfiller, /usr/lib/*/url-dispatcher/update-directory /usr/share/url-dispatcher/urls/
[15:26] <ted> bfiller, I guess there could also be an error in the update log.
[15:26] <ted> bfiller, Anything ~/.cache/upstart/url-dispatcher-update* ?
[15:28] <bfiller> ted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7530106/
[15:29] <ted> bfiller, ls -al ~/.cache/url-dispatcher/
[15:29] <bfiller> ted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7530119/
[15:30] <dbarth> ted, bfiller: fwiw, it also woks fine here on r51
[15:30] <ted> That's weird. Wonder why it's failing to update on bfiller's system though.
[15:31] <bfiller> ted: should I run this? /usr/lib/*/url-dispatcher/update-directory /usr/share/url-dispatcher/urls/
[15:31] <ted> bfiller, Perhaps try moving the cache directory to url-dispatcher.old and see if it'll rebuild it?
[15:31] <ted> bfiller, You can, I'm guessing it'll give the same errors as in the log.
[15:31] <bfiller> let me try
[15:33] <sil2100_> dholbach: hi!
[15:33] <dholbach> hey sil2100
[15:34] <sil2100> dholbach: I have a question/request - so, we got word that the new ubuntu-rssreader-app supposedly has worked-around an autopilot issue that we're encountering
[15:34] <sil2100> dholbach: from what Mirv mentioned, it seems someone built a new version already
[15:35] <sil2100> dholbach: could you somehow publish this new version so that it's in the store?
[15:35] <bfiller> ted: after moving that dir how do I rebuild?
[15:35] <dholbach> sil2100, I don't know how to do that
[15:36] <dholbach> popey, ^ do you know what needs to be done to build a new version and get it into the store?
[15:36] <sil2100> dholbach: popey seems to be gone today, I'm looking for someone else that could help - not sure who to ping though ;)
[15:36] <dholbach> sergiusens, are you around? ^ :)
[15:36] <sil2100> dholbach: I might have confused something
[15:38] <ted> bfiller, Call the update cmdline above
[15:39] <ted> bfiller, You won't get all your click packages back until you add/delete one with a url though.
[15:39] <ted> bfiller, After rebuilding you'll need to restart url-dispatcher
[15:40] <bfiller> ted: I do see https now in the database after doing that for the non-click apps http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7530162/
[15:40] <sergiusens> dholbach: yes I am
[15:40] <ted> bfiller, Then after restarting does the URL work?
[15:40] <bfiller> trying
[15:40] <dholbach> sergiusens, can we build a new version of ubuntu-rssreader-app and get it into the store?
[15:41] <dholbach> sergiusens, sil2100 just asked
[15:41] <sil2100> sergiusens: hi!
[15:41] <bfiller> ted: yes it works
[15:41] <sil2100> sergiusens: basically, I think there is a new version built already, but it needs uploading and publishing I guess
[15:41] <sergiusens> sil2100: of?
[15:41] <ted> Hmph, that's both good and bad.
[15:41] <sil2100> sergiusens: ubuntu-rssreader-app (shorts app)
[15:42] <ted> bfiller, Are the permissions different?
[15:42] <sil2100> dholbach: thanks for pointing into the right directions
[15:42] <sil2100> ;)
[15:42] <sergiusens> sil2100: I don't have time to run the tests from the package; I can do a blind upload or you can run them and give me the ack
[15:42] <dholbach> sil2100, sergiusens: thanks a bunch for working it out!
[15:43] <sil2100> sergiusens: ACK, I guess we don't want a blind upload then... let me try getting the ACK for you then, but it will probably be tomorrow I guess
[15:43] <bfiller> ted: same, only diff is missing click-urls subdir http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7530179/
[15:44] <ted> bfiller, Hmm, yeah, that'll get populated on next click install.
[15:44] <dholbach> sil2100, sergiusens: if you build it together, test it and upload it, I can ACK it in the store
[15:44] <bfiller> ted: seems like the problem is that insert failed in the webbrowser-app log that I pasted before? maybe some race or other bug when inserting rows in the db?
[15:45] <ted> bfiller, Hmm, must be something like that. Can you e-mail me the db file?
[15:45] <bfiller> ted: sure, the broken one right?
[15:45] <ted> bfiller, yes, I've got a good one :-)
[15:46] <ted> Interesting that it was updated 5 days ago.
[15:46] <ted> bfiller, Was that the last time you updated?
[15:47] <bfiller> ted: I think so
[15:47] <bfiller> ted: I usually reflash and wipe but was testing updates last week
[15:49] <bfiller> ted: just emailed to you
[15:50] <mhall119> Kaleo: t1mp: would either of you be a track lead for the app dev track in the upcoming uds?
[15:50] <mhall119> you'll mostly be responsible for approving and scheduling sessions
[15:50] <mhall119> and there will be others on that track as well
[15:50] <Kaleo> mhall119, zsombi would be the one
[15:51]  * mhall119 likes how Kaleo volunteers his coworkers :)
[15:51] <Kaleo> mhall119, I have training
[15:53] <ted> bfiller, ls -al /usr/share/url-dispatcher/urls/  please
[15:54] <rsalveti> rickspencer3: image 51 (devel-proposed) has the emulator workaround that should make the scopes to be always up
[15:55] <rickspencer3> thanks rsalveti, I'll try it first thing tomorrow
[15:55] <bfiller> ted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7530243/
[15:58] <ogra_> mterry__, bug 1323732
[15:59] <ogra_> mterry__, once that is fixed i'll adjust the image build setup to make use of libnss-extrausers and we should be fine
[15:59] <mterry__> ogra_, awesome
[16:29] <ted> bfiller, I can't seem to make that happen :-/
[16:29] <ted> bfiller, I think I'm going to put a recoverable error on the insert error and see if we can get some more data.
[16:30] <ted> bfiller, Then at least we can track it and see if it's happening regularly.
[16:30] <bfiller> ted: ok sounds like a plan, please update the bug with the info if you don't mind
[16:30] <ted> bfiller, Will do.
[16:38] <boiko> elopio: I can review it, I'm working this week :)
[16:49] <ahayzen> Hi. should i be able to write within autopilot to /home/phablet/autopilot/fakeenv yet? or does some apparmor profile need updating first?
[16:51] <mhall119> ahayzen: confined apps wouldn't be able to write there, no
[16:52] <ahayzen> mhall119, the calendar app is writing there in its tests.... we were all writing to /tmp before i thought this was suppose to be a 'special' directory for autopilot?
[16:52] <mhall119> oh, maybe it is and I just don't know about it
[16:53] <ahayzen> mhall119, i wonder if we are still waiting for something to land before it works
[16:53] <mhall119> for temp files you can write to /var/run/user/<uid>/confined/<app_id>/
[16:53] <ahayzen> mhall119, look at the changes at line 94 https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-ap-flo/+merge/219925
[16:54] <ahayzen> mhall119, well they are sortof temp...we are trying to mock /home
[16:54] <mhall119> ah, maybe balloons can tell us if there's an exception for that
[16:55] <ahayzen> yeah
[18:56]  * kenvandine is regretting the switch to btrfs... during upgrade to utopic it started spewing "not enough free space" errors... left all kinds of crap unconfigured
[18:56] <kenvandine> grrr
[18:57] <kenvandine> fumbled around and learned about scrub, balanace... yada yada
[18:58] <kenvandine> moral of the story is "df" lies when using btrfs :/
[19:07] <TeamPJB> can anyone help me with this error, ive looked at it and cant get my head around it: /usr/bin/ubuntu-session: line 122: 11332 Aborted                 ${service[1]} $arguments &>"$HOME/.ubuntu-session/logs/$binary.log"
[20:07] <Murus> ?
[20:50] <taiebot> Hi i wanted to report this bug for a long time. I must say it's very annoying when i go abroad.  I do not think it has been reported so here we go https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1323837
[21:58] <pngo> I'm not sure if it is a bug or not. Browser works only if I'm connected to wi-fi. mako | 14.04(e11) | channel=stable