[04:13] <mapps> morning
[06:07] <MooDoo> morning
[06:08] <Myrtti> moin
[06:14] <mapps> morning Myrtti / MooDoo
[06:14] <mapps> 24 was good;D
[06:18] <MooDoo> not watched it.
[07:00] <ujjain> are 2.0 and 1.0 amps specs of the usb-cable or the usb-to-mains adaptor?
[07:11] <ging> is there a trick to scping files onto a machine in places where you need sudo to access and there's no root user?
[08:06] <bashrc> morning
[08:11] <foobarry> morning
[08:58] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:59] <MooDoo> Hello
[09:05] <bashrc> morning
[09:39] <Guest83481> Good morning all; happy Tuesday and happy Sun Screen Day! :-D
[09:39] <foobarry> Guest83481= jamestait
[09:39] <Guest83481> Indeed.
[09:41] <foobarry> wiped my old hp touchpad and got android 4.4.2 on it \o/
[09:41] <JamesTait> And I have fat fingers this morning. :(
[09:41] <foobarry> that little tablet still rocks
[09:44] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:44] <MooDoo> morning
[09:45] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:58] <bashrc> what about cyanogenmod?
[09:59] <bashrc> so, is the ubuntu/android hybrid phone thingy really dead?
[10:00] <bashrc> the crossover desktop seemed like a good idea
[10:03] <bigcalm> No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'
[10:08] <bashrc> oh
[10:08] <Myrtti> pining for the fjords
[10:44] <ujjain> so anybody knows if there are also cheaper LPI exams? 124pound is steep
[10:45] <MooDoo> ujjain: no 124pounds is correct :( I know I looked into it as well
[10:45] <ujjain> in Holland I paid 62 pound, there were discount exams
[10:45] <ujjain> community exams
[10:48] <MooDoo> yeah looked around couldn't find them any cheaper in this country
[10:54] <popey> Do people actually care about LPIC?
[10:56] <bashrc> I don't.  what is it?
[10:58] <foobarry> i care about RHCE
[10:59] <foobarry> as it shows some level of competence
[10:59] <MooDoo> no I've leart from research hardly anyone knows what it is, if you want a cert for career purposes then you should look at the RHEL exams
[10:59] <MooDoo> bashrc: Linux professional institute exams
[11:02] <bashrc> ah, I didn't know they existed, so yes I really don't care about LPIC
[11:07] <shauno> that's exactly why people prefer rhce, even if they're not going for redhat platforms.  if no-one recognises lpic, it holds no value
[11:13] <foobarry> is lpic practical?
[11:13] <foobarry> don't think so
[11:19] <shauno> yeah I don't believe so either.  it's done by those Vue centers, so it's just x minutes infront of a multiple choice
[11:20] <MooDoo> I was going to do it, just for another cert, but I'm putting it on hold in favour of the rhcsa
[11:27] <bashrc> formal training I think can be useful, but probably more effort needs to be put into publicising these certifications and what they mean, otherwise they're useless for making judgements about anyone's skills
[11:31] <foobarry> i also consider whether a robot can do it or not
[11:31] <foobarry> i took the vmware course but skipped the exam as it was useless
[12:29] <ujjain> As long as you pay £1,500 or more into your account each calendar month, we'll waive the £5 Club Lloyds monthly fee < This refers to your salary or expenditures?
[12:29] <foobarry> "into"
[12:29] <foobarry> your income paid into the account
[12:31] <foobarry> almost made it to £40 in amazon vouchers from doing surveys \o/
[12:34] <ujjain> ah ok, thanks foobarry
[12:35] <ujjain> foobarry, wow, nice, amazon surveys?
[12:35] <popey> reminds me, I got 20 quid amazon voucher this week
[12:35] <popey> pressie time!
[12:36]  * popey checks his wishlist
[12:37] <popey> mmmmm http://www.amazon.co.uk/Franks-RedHot-Original-Cayenne-Pepper/dp/B002L639UY
[12:37] <popey> candidate
[12:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey: Looks nice. Have you tried it before?
[12:38] <popey> yes
[12:38] <popey> its what they use on buffallo wings in the us traditionally
[12:38] <popey> not especially spicy, but quite piquant
[12:38] <foobarry> ujjain: no, other general surveys. can send u a link if u like
[12:38] <ujjain> foobarry, sure
[12:38] <popey> foobarry: I'd be up for that too ☻
[12:38] <foobarry> you need spare time to do them but i'e earned ~60 over last few months
[12:39] <foobarry> can u PM me your email address please and i'll refer you
[12:42] <foobarry> they are often surveys about beer, smartphones, travel and ISPs
[12:48] <ujjain> bank accounts are complex, thinking about getting a free paid account, but it says nothign about early cancelation
[13:00] <foobarry> ujjain: popey did you want me to send you signup links to the survey stuffs? i need your emails
[13:00] <foobarry> i have a cheeky mouse in our house. cannot get rid of it.
[13:08] <dwatkins> I've had a lot of mice in my flat over the last 3 years.
[13:08] <dwatkins> foobarry: try these - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trixie-Mouse-Trap-4-5-17/dp/B000WFI866/
[13:08] <foobarry> i have a similar one
[13:08] <foobarry> maybe the mouse is gone now
[13:09] <awilkins> Isn't it illegal to catch & release vermin?
[13:09] <dwatkins> I find they tend to use them when I'm on holiday, unfortunately.
[13:09] <dwatkins> it is? in that case, I've broken the law 3 times.
[13:09] <awilkins> As I recall when I had squirrels and researched it you have to destroy them
[13:09] <foobarry> is it illegal to club a mouse over the head on the field?
[13:09] <awilkins> Don't think so
[13:09] <foobarry> squirrels are different
[13:09] <dwatkins> I let them go in the park.
[13:09] <foobarry> grey squirrels are not english
[13:09] <awilkins> I headclubbed them
[13:10] <foobarry> my dog despatches them
[13:10] <foobarry> sometihng about indiginous species
[13:12] <dwatkins> "Under the WCA there is no prohibition on the release of other species of rats or mice which are ordinarily resident in GB."
[13:12] <awilkins> I quite liked the idea of the ratzapper 2000
[13:12] <dwatkins> section 6.3.1 of http://www.ufaw.org.uk/rodents.php
[13:12] <awilkins> It's like that live trap, only incorporates a pair of high tension metal plates and a battery power source
[13:13] <awilkins> Both fatal AND humane.
[13:13] <awilkins> But I couldn't source one in this country
[13:54] <foobarry> also joined a samsung roundtable for discussion about their products. pretty good idea tbh
[14:06] <diddledan> foobarry, do you get freebies? :-p
[14:09] <dogmatic69> I am on a windows box using cygwin to ssh into a linux box, if I paste something longer than 20 chars it crashes the cygwin terminal. Any ideas?
[14:09] <dogmatic69> its only on some ssh connections, not all so its not cygwin I dont think...
[14:11] <foobarry> diddledan: like 4k tellies?
[14:11] <diddledan> foobarry, yeah, that'ld be a good start
[14:11] <foobarry> more like $5 vouchers for contribution, but its a new thing so we'll see.
[14:11] <diddledan> :-(
[14:11] <foobarry> generally the discussion is around large appliances , tv , washing machine, etc
[14:12] <foobarry> so you can contribute by suggesting smart washing machines that give statistics on your washes etc
[14:15] <diddledan> "you have washed 6 unpaired socks in the last month"
[14:18] <diddledan> my favourite bash feature that I discovered a while ago? the CDPATH variable
[14:18] <foobarry> washing machine sock monster has eaten 4 pairs
[14:18] <diddledan> it's awesome
[14:18] <diddledan> lol
[14:19] <foobarry> we also have a carpet monster
[14:19] <foobarry> eats small airfix parts
[14:21] <diddledan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7529678/ <-- my CDPATH variable - allows me to `cd` into directories without remembering exactly where they're located - e.g. `cd passwords` will actually cd to /Users/dllewellyn/bang/passwords no matter where I am in the hierarchy
[14:21] <diddledan> the var works similarly to $PATH
[14:21] <awilkins> Neato
[14:21]  * awilkins makes a mental chalkboard note
[14:22] <foobarry> it can be dangerous tho
[14:22] <diddledan> my paste above says that cd will first search the current directory (.) then check /data followed by /Users/dllewellyn/bang and finally ~
[14:22] <foobarry> encourages sloppiness versus precision
[14:32] <diddledan> it may encourage sloppiness but it speeds up getting to my work folders by orders of magnitude
[14:32] <diddledan> cd ..
[14:32] <diddledan> ls
[14:32] <diddledan> cd ..
[14:32] <diddledan> ls
[14:32] <diddledan> etc.
[14:32] <foobarry> you can also do cd $WORK
[14:32] <foobarry> cd $DATA
[14:34] <foobarry> enjoying my new desert camo trousers for summer http://www.thebunkerwarehouse.co.uk/trousers/82-desert-camo-trousers.html
[14:34] <diddledan> but then I'd have to remember ahead of time which folder it's in
[14:34] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Do you live in a desert?
[14:35] <foobarry> a cultural desert
[14:35] <diddledan> .. and if I knew ahead of time which folder it was in I can go there directly without a $variable
[14:35] <TwistedLucidity> LOL
[14:35] <foobarry> i'll get booted out of the sandpit at the kids playground
[14:36] <foobarry> good price for nice trousers though
[14:36] <foobarry> really comfy
[14:48] <ujjain> first level of theatre is front row or circle (upstairs)?
[14:49] <ujjain> there are 2 times b7 in the seating chart, very weird.
[15:31] <mapps> hey all
[15:31] <SuperMatt> y'ello
[15:32] <SuperMatt> mapps: have any trouble getting around london on sunday?
[15:32] <mapps> fell asleep during crisis now ive gotta rewatch
[15:32] <mapps> nop
[15:32] <mapps> tempted to watch 24 again..last 2 eps have been so good
[15:32] <diddledan> hmm. truecrypt is playing silly burgers
[15:32] <SuperMatt> oh
[15:33] <diddledan> giving me "bad file descriptor" after attempting sudoish auth
[15:33] <mapps> :(
[15:44] <foobarry> i've never seen one minute of 24
[15:45] <foobarry> feel like my life is 2 weeks longer than a lot of people
[15:48] <mapps> :(
[15:53] <bigcalm> I keep trying to copy/paste text from OneNote running on a Windows machine into Chromium running on my desktop, linked via Synergy. And I keep forgetting that trying to do so freezes Chromium
[15:53] <bigcalm> Damn you technology
[15:54] <shauno> diddledan: you can totally abuse cdpath by making a ~/.bookmarks folder, sticking it in your cdpath, and symlinking common destinations into it ;)
[15:56] <awilkins> bigcalm, Which version of Synergy#?
[15:56] <bigcalm> 2
[15:56] <awilkins> I thought there was only 1.5?
[15:56] <bigcalm> I donated, so use their latest version
[15:56] <awilkins> I donated at some point..
[15:57] <bigcalm> Ah, it used to be called Synergy2
[15:57] <bigcalm> Yes, 1.5.0 from http://synergy-project.org/download/
[15:57] <awilkins> Ah, likewise
[15:58] <bigcalm> Some programs on my desktop just do not seem to cope with pasting from the buffer
[15:58] <diddledan> synergy is pretty decent
[15:58] <diddledan> I donated to them, too
[15:58] <awilkins> I find sometimes you have to kill rdpclip.exe
[15:58] <awilkins> But that's Windows / Office I think
[16:31] <bigcalm> Anybody here used Docker or LXC?
[18:11] <SirMarky> Hello!  Can anyone help me with a question about upnp support and Ubuntu?
[18:14] <SirMarky> <tumbleweed rolls past.....>
[19:10] <Myrtti> http://www.wimp.com/trotsound/
[19:10] <Myrtti> or http://www.trotify.com/
[20:02] <mapps> this non stop is quite cool
[20:10] <diddledan> discovered a new commandline tool - ncdu
[20:10] <diddledan> gives a breakdown of where your free hdd space is gone
[20:11] <diddledan> I found I had nearly 20GB in an old home folder that I'd not cleared away
[20:24] <moreati> diddledan: Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_Usage_Analyzer