[05:52] <cwillu> Question:  the xorg-edgers ppa doesn't have packages for lucid anymore, does that sound about right?
[05:54] <cwillu> I ask, because the non-existence of a packages list for that release makes ppa-purge fail to function
[06:08] <mlankhorst> possibly, do you still have a lucid ppa somewhere?
[06:19] <cwillu> I still have several machines running lucid, which have had edgers on them
[06:19] <cwillu> on this latest one, it appears that addng the ppa, changing it to point to precise, doing an apt-get update, and then ppa-purging'ing it works
[06:20] <cwillu> at which point, do-release-update stop failing to calculate an upgrade :)_
[06:20] <cwillu> mlankhorst, ^
[06:21] <cwillu> it appears that all that's actually needed is the Packages list
[06:22] <cwillu> (the last time I tried this, I just ended up doing a fresh install and manually moving pieces from the old /etc and similar into place, but that was an ordeal that I'd imagine most people in my situation (including myself today, and myself in the future :p) would like to avoid
[06:23] <cwillu> I'm heading to bed, but I'll read pm
[06:23] <cwillu> ...
[06:23] <cwillu> read pm's sent to cwillu_at_work, which is online, but not in this channel
[06:23] <mlankhorst> no idea
[06:24] <mlankhorst> I never tried lucid before, tbh
[06:25] <cwillu> I'm mostly just reporting that the removal of the ppa packages for lucid breaks do-release-upgrade, which is still supported for server installs, and is getting close to retirement, so I'd expect this to start cropping up more
[06:25] <tjaalton> edgers isn't supposed to be used on servers..
[06:25] <cwillu> sometimes you just need to bring up the display
[06:25] <tjaalton> and you need edgers for that? doubtful
[06:25] <cwillu> it's not core to the function, and so an xorg breakage isn't terribly risky
[06:26] <cwillu> um
[06:26] <cwillu> yes, rather often you do
[06:26] <cwillu> or did
[06:26] <mlankhorst> yes lucid is still supported, but that ppa is not supported :p
[06:26] <cwillu> sure
[06:26] <cwillu> I'm not saying that it should be supported
[06:26] <cwillu> I'm just saying that, having used it, do-release-upgrade fails, and ppa-purge also fails, so getting back to a supported environment is tricky
[06:27] <tjaalton> manual purge or a reinstall
[06:28] <cwillu> if you don't care, that's fine
[06:28] <cwillu> (if a little surprising)
[06:28] <tjaalton> eh
[06:28] <tjaalton> there's nothing to do
[06:28] <cwillu> "on this latest one, it appears that addng the ppa, changing it to point to precise, doing an apt-get update, and then ppa-purging'ing it works"
[06:29] <cwillu> ppa-purge just needs a package list
[06:29] <cwillu> doesn't need an actual working ppa
[06:30] <tjaalton> so you're asking someone to provide that, by guessing what it might have had at the time?
[06:31] <tjaalton> lucid desktop was EOL a year ago, that's probably when the ppa got cleaned up
[06:36] <cwillu> I'm mentioning that a Packages file that approximately matches what was there is all that's necessary to get it to work, in case anyone else runs into this
[06:36] <cwillu> yes, a guess
[06:36] <tjaalton> no edgers maintainers present atm anyway
[06:36] <cwillu> anyways, g'night
[08:05] <mlankhorst>  launchpad is RAOF's happy place
[08:27] <tseliot> :)
[08:29] <tjaalton> que?
[12:00] <jcristau> i don't suppose there's a way to get http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2013-February/035349.html into precise-updates?
[12:05] <jcristau> mlankhorst: ^
[12:06] <mlankhorst> what xorg-server exactly ? :p
[12:07] <mlankhorst> and if it's in newer, can't you grab xserver-xorg-lts-saucy or something?
[12:27] <mlankhorst> jcristau: /\
[12:32] <jcristau> mlankhorst: well
[12:32] <jcristau> i suppose i could, but that's a rather bigger upgrade for a single fix
[12:34] <jcristau> so at that point i'd just upgrade to a newer release altogether
[12:35] <mlankhorst> there's trusty :-)
[16:24] <mlankhorst> jcristau: the xorg-server in precise is a mess, especially in input