[00:00] <dw1> raggg: oh the link is right under the release notes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1224217
[00:00] <Gallomimia> whats the difference between installing "normal" or "live" in the server installer??
[00:02] <wheresmypaaants> Hey, anyone know how to make ubuntu treat ALL jar files as executable, instead of me having to go in and mark it as executable every time?
[00:03] <raggg> thanks dw1
[00:03] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: files aren't executable unless the eXecute bit is set for the user, group, or others
[00:03] <wheresmypaaants> You're confusing me...
[00:04] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: You're confusing me...
[00:04] <dw1> wheresmypaaants: http://askubuntu.com/questions/270172/how-can-i-make-a-jar-file-executable
[00:05] <clypso_> Hello. I am having problems with my lubuntu recognizing my wireless card. I literally dont see ANYTHING going on with my wireless.  I have A Sony pcg-7113L. All system information can be found here http://pastebin.com/r9nRP2bJ
[00:05] <wheresmypaaants> I don't want to have to do it individually, though
[00:05] <wheresmypaaants> I want Ubuntu to treat ALL jar files executable
[00:06] <bobo69> wheresmypaaants: do you want ot be able to launch the jar files from the command line or by double clicking the file?
[00:06] <Arbition> wheresmypaaants: Are they all +x ?
[00:06] <wheresmypaaants> double clicking
[00:06] <Guest44890> hi
[00:06] <wheresmypaaants> when i download, i want to instantly be able to double click and execute
[00:06] <Arbition> no can do
[00:06] <bobo69> wheresmypaaants: then thats easy, right click the jar file and go to properties then set as default from the open with tab
[00:07] <jq-> Hi, I made a new user account and deleted the original and now when I try to sudo it tells me I'm not in the sudoers file, how can I fix this?
[00:07] <scott_> Hi there.  I'm having a problem with PlayonLinux.  Could someone tell me if there's an IRC channel?
[00:07] <Arbition> When you download, they are by default, set to not have the +x flag
[00:07] <Arbition> that is a security feature
[00:07] <wheresmypaaants> Can i disable this security feature?
[00:07] <dw1> scott_: /msg alis list *playonlinux*
[00:07] <bobo69> Arbition: it sounds to me like he wants to be able to open the file from the gui
[00:08] <bobo69> Arbition: no need to mess with +x flag in that case. Its just going to open the apporate .desktop file
[00:08] <Arbition> I thought most file managers already executed .jar files in this manner
[00:09] <bobo69> Arbition: I'd bet that the default assocation to .jar files in archive manager. it is for me
[00:09] <scott_> sorry, what network is it under?
[00:09] <Arbition> could be
[00:09] <bobo69> The only thing to do is set the Open With default for .jar files
[00:09] <jq-> Hi, I made a new user account and deleted the original and now when I try to sudo it tells me I'm not in the sudoers file, how can I fix this?
[00:09] <wheresmypaaants> scott_: #ubuntu
[00:09] <TheLegace> hi can someone help me get monodevelop working in ubuntu 12.04
[00:09] <Arbition> Once again I suspect that is because they don't have +x set
[00:10] <Ben64> jq-: restart, go to the recovery mode, and add your new user to the sudo group
[00:10] <Arbition> but you know, if someone wants to willingly decrease their security for the sake of a little convenience, thats up to them I guess
[00:10] <jq-> Ben64: Recovery mode?
[00:10] <TheLegace> i cant get it to execute my project, it gives me cannot execute .... exe
[00:10] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu is such a nice distro
[00:10] <Ben64> jq-: yep. you get to it from the boot menu (grub)
[00:10] <jq-> Ben64: How?
[00:10] <Ben64> !recovery
[00:10] <Ben64> hmm...
[00:10] <scott_> oh ok I found it - thank you very much
[00:11] <Ben64> jq-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode#Booting_into_recovery_mode
[00:11] <Arbition> Given its bytecode nature, I shouldn't be surprised that it is trivial to bypass despite having +x
[00:11] <luist> ffmpegthumbnailer doesnt work…. remove this stupid packge from the repos ¬¬
[00:11] <dw1> clypso_: first use lspci to see your actual network card model
[00:11] <Arbition> Anyway, open with, as bobo69 said
[00:11] <Guest44890> hi im having trouble with connecting mysql
[00:11] <jq-> Ben64: K, and how exactly to I add myself to the sudoers group?
[00:11] <Arbition> or properties and set default
[00:12] <clypso_> I have a Wireless 1500 draft 802.11l WLAN Mini-Card
[00:12] <Ben64> jq-: adduser <your user> sudo
[00:12] <raggg> how go i get 'gsettings set ... false' to be persistent? the setting resets every time i login...
[00:12] <bobo69> Ben64: sudo usermod -aG sudo <username>
[00:12] <jq-> Ben64: Awesome. Thanks
[00:12] <clypso_> 802.11n**
[00:12] <Ben64> or what bobo69 said
[00:12] <jq-> :P
[00:12] <jq-> K
[00:12] <jq-> Thanks :)
[00:12] <bobo69> jq-: : Is this the same username as the previous user?
[00:12] <jq-> bobo69: No
[00:12] <bobo69> jq-: if not, there is more work to be done after that
[00:13] <jq-> :/
[00:13] <jq-> Like what :(
[00:13] <bobo69> jq-: well im not sure to be honest. I might have spoken too soon. try to log out and back in and see if you can run sudo commands
[00:13] <jq-> Kk
[00:13] <bobo69> but you will need ot logout and in
[00:14] <dw1> clypso_: paste ifconfig and lspci @ http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:14] <dw1> clypso_: to copy from terminal, select text then middle button (or both button) click at destination
[00:16] <Guest44890> Access denied for user 'z1727212'@'localhost'
[00:16] <Guest44890> while connecting to my sql
[00:16] <holstein> Guest44890: connect via ssh and test
[00:16] <Guest44890> ssh?
[00:16] <holstein> Guest44890: what are you trying to do?
[00:16] <Guest44890> im trying to connect to sql from php
[00:17] <holstein> Guest44890: i dont think thats how it works..
[00:17] <holstein> Guest44890: you are likely not in php to connect into a database from
[00:17] <holstein> Guest44890: start with the big picture of what you are trying to accomplish
[00:18] <jq-> bobo69: Worked fine, didn't have to do anything else
[00:18] <jq-> Thanks
[00:19] <bobo69> coal
[00:20] <linuxuz3r> unity is nice
[00:20] <linuxuz3r> lol
[00:21] <bobo69> linuxuz3r: isnt that the strangest thing? I never thought I'd say that either.
[00:22] <linuxuz3r> yes
[00:22] <linuxuz3r> they added more features
[00:23] <Bray90820_> How well does the microsoft multitouch mouse work with ubuntu i know that the apple one is pretty bad
[00:25] <Gallomimia> every time i do something new with the partition table the server makes me reinstall
[00:25] <holstein> Bray90820_: nothing about linux or ubuntu is preventing microsoft or apple from providing support for either of those
[00:26] <holstein> Gallomimia: i think its more like, everytime you mess with the partition table, the media has a new partition table, and forgets your data is there
[00:26] <slowkiller> lol
[00:27] <badbz> yeah, generally you want to figure out your partition scheme once and stick with it.
[00:27] <badbz> screweing with partitions is a very easy way to lose data quickly
[00:28] <holstein> Gallomimia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Lost_Partition might help.. but, you should have backups, and expect issues as stated above
[00:28] <badbz> what is it that you are trying to acomplish?
[00:28] <Gallomimia> its not crucial data. just the last install
[00:28] <slowkiller> Gallominia I've been there
[00:28] <Gallomimia> getting annoying to try installing every time
[00:30] <holstein> Gallomimia: just stop messing with the partition table
[00:30] <Gallomimia> no, i can't get the damn thing to boot
[00:30] <holstein> Gallomimia: i would address that issue idependently from the creation or deletion of partition tables
[00:30] <holstein> Gallomimia: you can test the media.. could be malfunctioning
[00:31] <badbz> so, after you install and when the system reboots and starts for the first time post install it won’t boot?
[00:32] <Gallomimia> it doesn't boot for the first time
[00:32] <badbz> do you see the grub loading screen at all?
[00:33] <Gallomimia> it never succeeds in installing grub
[00:33] <badbz> what error does it give?
[00:33] <Gallomimia> failed to install grub this error is fatal
[00:34] <holstein> Gallomimia: i would expect to,a nd have seen that error on failing hard drives
[00:34] <en16m4666> can you boot into the os at all?
[00:34] <Gallomimia> i had it working on a single drive yes
[00:34] <holstein> Gallomimia: can you boot the live CD without issue?
[00:34] <Gallomimia> another os, with a previous video card. um. it was ubuntu 13.10
[00:35] <Gallomimia> the livecd seems to work
[00:35] <Gallomimia> im using a server installer
[00:35] <holstein> Gallomimia: try the live CD for ubuntu 14.04, and let me know if it works for *certain*
[00:35] <holstein> Gallomimia: oh.. i see.. i still think the live CD would be a good test. otherwise, test the hard drives.. you can use gsmartcontrol from the live CD im suggesting
[00:35] <badbz> could always boot the live cd and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:35] <badbz> see if that works.
[00:36] <Gallomimia> that would be a good idea
[00:36] <en16m4666> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:36] <en16m4666> then grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:37] <Gallomimia> grub install fails to run on this installer, and so does sudo
[00:37] <en16m4666> sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:37] <en16m4666> ooo...
[00:37] <Gallomimia> yep. it's pretty fun
[00:37] <svm_invictvs> Hello
[00:37] <holstein> !md5 | Gallomimia
[00:37] <Gallomimia> i'll try flashing a different usb with the live cd and see
[00:37] <holstein> Gallomimia: could be a bad iso, or installation media as well
[00:37] <svm_invictvs> These instructions will not create a USB stick that's bootable from a system not OSX, correct?
[00:38] <svm_invictvs> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[00:38] <badbz> could check the drive with smartmontools as well.
[00:39] <holstein> svm_invictvs: the operating system is really not the issue.. nothing about osx is going to prevent anything from booting.. but, the mac hardware itself may prevent, or not facilitate USB booting.. they (apple) never promised you that funcitonality
[00:39] <holstein> svm_invictvs: i was able to boot a CD and use plop.. but that was older mac hardware.. an older white macbook
[00:39] <newhoa> Hey, would anyone using Ubuntu 14.04, a Radeon 7xxx card, and the open source Radeon drivers be able to help me out with a problem? I would really appreciate it. I'm trying to nail down a bug in MComix or Glamor, but need someone else to try it out.
[00:40] <Gallomimia> newhoa: i just ditched my radeon 7970 for an nvidia card
[00:40] <Gallomimia> cause lets face it. that card's drivers suck
[00:41] <Guest44890> hi can i copy my sql tables from a remote machine to my local machine?
[00:41] <Guest44890> along with data?
[00:41] <wols> Guest44890: if it's the same mysql version, yes
[00:42] <Guest44890> let me check
[00:42] <wols> newhoa: always ask your real question or state your real problem
[00:42] <newhoa> Gallomimia: Actually, I'm really excited since trying the latest drivers and kernel... I'm playing all the Steam games as 60fps, which is better than I ever did with either the OSS driver or official AMD driver. It's just this one program that is doing a weird glitchy thing.
[00:43] <newhoa> wols: I usually do, but in this case I need to send someone a link to the file I'm having trouble with and I won't have the bandwidth to do that in the room.
[00:43] <Gallomimia> my card is some strange factory overclocked thing and most drivers dont work 100% with it
[00:44] <wols> so you buy bad hardware and blame the drivers? tho of course your statement itself is totally ludicrous
[00:44] <Guest44890> @wols i m trying to copy from 5.5.37 to 5.5.27
[00:45] <Guest44890> will it be okay?
[00:45] <wols> Guest44890: you can only try,probably it will. or you can do a normal backup of your DB with mysql itself and restore it
[00:46] <newhoa> But in case anyone else can test it out: Ubuntu 14.04, Radeon 7xxx (I'm using 7770), open source Radeon driver. Try opening a GIF with MComix and have MComix set to single page mode and Fit to width or Fit to size mode - any mode that requires single page vertical scrolling. Scroll down and see if there are any missing portions of the image. Sometimes it won't render beyond the initial load (so the bottom half is missing entirely), or it lea
[00:47] <daftykins> or it lea...? your message was too long and got chopped
[00:47] <daftykins> however what is this 'mcomix' ? what makes it become an ubuntu problem?
[00:48] <newhoa> or it leaves missing lines.
[00:48] <holstein> newhoa: i would try the proprietary driver for an alternative
[00:49] <Guest44890> is there a theme for ubuntu like mac to get apps floating above or below in panels?
[00:50] <Guest44890> instead of a side bar
[00:50] <twaxler> might be little bit of  dumb question cause ive google searched up and down but is there any program equivalent to manycam/youcam that will run?
[00:50] <newhoa> MComix is an image viewer, but best for comic archives. I'm having problems with any GIF images.
[00:50] <newhoa> I'm trying to verify that it's an Ubuntu problem. I didn't have this problem before the 14.04 upgrade, and no one else I've asked with another OS has had this problem.
[00:51] <newhoa>  I've narrowed it down to glamor, but I'm looking for others to verify. If it is, it's specifically a bug Ubuntus glamor package.
[00:51] <clypso> Hey ok so im back. I see my wifi connections. But the problem now is when i type in my wifi password it just accepts it and then nothing else. I try firefox and no go. i tried this several times with a reboot and wifi hardswitch reboot.
[00:52] <holstein> newhoa: well, i think it would be more like a driver problem
[00:55] <newhoa> holstein: I've tried upgrading the radeon driver and the problem doesn't change, changing the glamor packages is the only thing that has changes the bug (and it gets worse with the latest glamor package). I don't totally understand the relationship between the radeon driver and glamor though.
[00:56] <raggg> i have a perfectly working battery indicator in unity and in gnome fallback, but not in gnome-fallback with i3wm, any ideas?
[00:56] <holstein> newhoa: i didnt suggest upgrading anything.. you state you are using the open drive. try the proprietary one
[00:57] <newhoa> holstein: Does the proprietary driver use glamor? I'm trying to get to the root of the bug so I can report it.
[00:58] <rww> don't think it does
[00:58] <holstein> newhoa: the driver will be the issue, friend
[01:00] <trism> newhoa: couldn't reproduce it on any of my systems here, although I suppose it might depend on the test image, didn't have any gifs that large so had to make one
[01:02] <svm_invictvs> holstein: The instructions I linked say they're OSX only and I need to use unetboonin
[01:02] <newhoa> holstein: Would you mind explaining why? I'm just trying to understand, but changing to any other version of the driver has no effect, changing glamor does. So why would the problem be the driver?
[01:02] <holstein> svm_invictvs: the issue will be, the mac booting usb in any way
[01:03] <newhoa> trism: Thank you for taking the time, I really appreciate it. I just tried making a very long gif myself in gimp, all white, and the issue still happens for me. Are you using 14.04, Radeon 7xxx, and open source drivers?
[01:03] <holstein> newhoa: the hardware is not open.. the open driver is doing what it can.. the only driver the manufacturer has anything to do with is the proprietary one
[01:03] <Gallomimia> i got the system to boot with my crazy install after much uefi boot sector problems but not its just a blackscreen
[01:03] <svm_invictvs> holstein: You're missing ht epoint
[01:03] <holstein> !nomodeset
[01:04] <svm_invictvs> holstein: I was asking for a way to make a USB bootable disk *on* a Mac *for* a PC
[01:04] <holstein> Gallomimia: you can try nomodeset
[01:04] <Gallomimia> oh yes
[01:04] <holstein> svm_invictvs: i just use the application.. you can dd copy the iso's from a mac
[01:04] <Gallomimia> i forgot how much fun that was
[01:04] <TreSyr> can chat tst
[01:04] <TreSyr> Hiyas! :)
[01:04] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: dd the regular iso onto the usb drive
[01:04] <svm_invictvs> holstein: Fails to boot on the target box
[01:04] <svm_invictvs> k1l_: ^^
[01:04] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: why fails?
[01:05] <svm_invictvs> k1l_: Doesn't say
[01:05] <ianorlin> svm_invictvs: does the box boot other usb drives?
[01:05] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: check the md5sum before dd/burning
[01:05] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: and make sure you dd onto sdb and not sdb1
[01:05] <svm_invictvs> ianorlin: It sees the usb device in the boot menu, spits out an error very quickly then boots its normal OS
[01:05] <svm_invictvs> k1l_: Yeah...
[01:05] <svm_invictvs> Let me try this on my linux box at home.
[01:05] <holstein> svm_invictvs: could be a bad sum.. bad stick.. or the machine cant boot usb.. try the stick on another machine as well
[01:06] <Gallomimia> i got the grub screen
[01:06] <clypso> Hey so whenever i connect to my wifi it asks for my wifi password. I enter it and thats it. Nothing else happens. Internet still wont work. Tried reboot and hardswitch reboot. This is a fresh install.. Lubuntu
[01:06] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: if you can boot the ubuntu on another machine you know the stick/iso is fine
[01:06] <svm_invictvs> I'll give that a shot
[01:06] <svm_invictvs> Yeah
[01:06] <holstein> clypso: i would just hardwire, and apply all upgrades.. then, i would try removing any cached wifi password or connection attempts
[01:07] <clypso> i hardwired. I applied all upgrades. Im not sure how to remove any cached wifi password or connection attempts though. Could u explain ?
[01:08] <holstein> clypso: in the menu, where the wifi access points are listed. i just delete them, and reconnect
[01:09] <clypso> how can you delete them? It shows a list of wifi connection points but i cant even right click or anything.
[01:09] <TreSyr> go to settings to do that
[01:10] <holstein> clypso: i dont have unity running here, but, i just click around til i see how to remove them.. dont sweat it, though.. this is *not* a fix.. just a troubleshooting step.. did wifi work from the live CD?
[01:10] <clypso> yeah it worked when i had ubuntu on here
[01:10] <clypso> i now i have lubuntu
[01:10] <holstein> clypso: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[01:10] <clypso> true lol
[01:10] <holstein> clypso: is the nm-applet running?
[01:10] <clypso> ?
[01:11] <holstein> clypso: do you see a little icon down by the time that you can click on that shows connection information?
[01:11] <trism> newhoa: yes one of the systems is radeon, different card though, Radeon HD 5450
[01:11] <clypso> yeah
[01:11] <clypso> i got 2 of them for the networks
[01:11] <TreSyr> trism ?...
[01:12] <clypso> network status monitor and manage networks
[01:12] <trism> TreSyr: yes?
[01:12] <TreSyr> "newhoa" is directed to whom ?
[01:13] <newhoa> trism: Okay, thanks!
[01:13] <TreSyr> Yep, id kickban them both
[01:13] <TreSyr> trism, newhoa
[01:13] <clypso> Yup im ready when you are. What u want me to do next
[01:14] <TreSyr> trism, newhoa
[01:14] <TreSyr> ...
[01:15] <newhoa> I think we broke TreSyr
[01:15] <TreSyr> Hideous drones ^
[01:15] <clypso> so
[01:15] <clypso> -_-
[01:17] <clypso> Holstein ?
[01:17] <holstein> clypso: whats up?
[01:17] <clypso> i thought u were mid explaining something
[01:17] <clypso> bottom right i see those icons. The one that shows for the wifi connects. But only options i get is repair or disable
[01:17] <holstein> clypso: nope.. its an open channel.. i say, install unity if you understand how to connect to wifi better with it
[01:17] <daftykins> what a hilarious misunderstanding. carry on!
[01:17] <clypso> unity ?
[01:17] <holstein> clypso: you should remove your connection, and try again
[01:17] <Viking667> hullo all... I've got a gnome-shell question. Where does gnome-shell get its initial information from when a user logs in, about what the supported monitors are, what the requested keymap is?
[01:18] <clypso> kinda baby step me on this. im very green to linux
[01:18] <holstein> clypso: you stated "wifi worked fine with ubuntu, now im running lubuntu"
[01:18] <clypso> i just need to use this os for now.
[01:18] <lorele> Yay Lubuntu.
[01:18] <clypso> damnit. this sucks
[01:18] <clypso> driving me insane
[01:18] <holstein> clypso: *if* that was ubuntu 14.04, and you are using lubuntu 14.04, then, there is nothing technical that should be preventing your connection
[01:18] <clypso> yeah i know its odd
[01:19] <holstein> clypso: im not suggesting you use another os
[01:19] <holstein> clypso: im saying, if you understand how to use unity, just install it via a wired connection and use it
[01:19] <ianorlin> clypso you had the broadcom 4321 right did you do additional drivers
[01:19] <clypso> yeah
[01:19] <holstein> clypso: otherwise, you should be able to access the saved wifi access points and remove them.. have you tried that?
[01:19] <TreSyr> tools
[01:19] <TreSyr> :)
[01:19] <clypso> i dont know how
[01:19] <clypso> =(
[01:20] <Viking667> Also, I'm getting a "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparam.c:4864, leaking memory" every time I do "sudo something"
[01:20] <holstein> clypso: i just find them in the menu.. in *any* de and remove them.. where are you looking?
[01:20] <clypso> i went to 'Network connections'
[01:20] <holstein> clypso: you'll see an "edit connections" menu when you right click on the nm-applet
[01:21] <holstein> clypso: ok.. if you dont see settings there, close that, and go elsewhere..
[01:21] <clypso> i see edi
[01:21] <clypso> edit
[01:21] <holstein> clypso: ok.. try that
[01:21] <clypso> its for ethernet connection
[01:21] <holstein> clypso: ok. so, its not that, close that, and keep moving
[01:22] <clypso> networking settings
[01:22] <clypso> Host Settings:
[01:22] <clypso> Domain Name:
[01:23] <clypso> General, DNS, Hosts   - Those are the tabs at the top of it
[01:23] <holstein> clypso: you want to remove the wifi access point you have created that could be "bad"
[01:23] <holstein> clypso: if you dont see a way to do so, just close that, and keep moving
[01:23] <clypso> well
[01:23] <clypso> i dont see anything else
[01:23] <clypso> -_-
[01:24] <ianorlin> clpso hit alt f2 and enter software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4 as your card needs wl the proprietary braodcom driver
[01:24] <trism> Viking667: that's bug 1257186
[01:24] <holstein> clypso: please do what ianorlin suggests
[01:24] <holstein> clypso: if you havent installed the driver for you hardware, you need to do that first. wire up to internet first
[01:27] <Gallomimia> holstein: cant seem to get anything with nomodeset
[01:27] <holstein> !uefi
[01:27] <holstein> Gallomimia: im not sure what, if anything, about your hardware is preventing your installation from bootin
[01:28] <Gallomimia> i suspect its my desire to use an encrypted filesystem
[01:28] <holstein> Gallomimia: try without it, and see
[01:29] <holstein> Gallomimia: that should have *no* effect on the live CD booting.. but, a "safe boot" bios option will
[01:29] <Gallomimia> oh yes. we wanted a blank usb stick for this...
[01:31] <Guest44890> @wols hey it worked thanks
[01:34] <TreSyr> First delete all partitions, perhaps with gparted, create required partitions and load the data onto the stick with dd if=/dev/Interface...hdb..for..instance.     of=/the/data   ... Hideous arguments to this command, but it always does according to its purpose and it never fails.
[01:35] <guest939> yo mother fuckers lol
[01:37] <TreSyr> Good bye
[01:37] <TreSyr> :) **
[01:39] <TreSyr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewOzi5-AZXU
[01:44] <TreSyr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBJZVE3EeU
[01:45] <holstein> TreSyr: please stop... use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel to chat and share videos
[01:45]  * daftykins sharpens the channel unicorn
[01:46] <TreSyr> ^^ 2fer ... Right holstein you seem good. Sorry about that.
[01:46] <miguel> hi
[01:46] <TreSyr> Hi
[01:46] <miguel> sorry about what ^^
[01:46] <TreSyr> I pasted the tune i listened to miguel
[01:47] <TreSyr> Its slightly off topic perhaps
[01:47] <miguel> how are you today
[01:47] <IdleOne> TreSyr: stop now or I will ban you.
[01:47] <miguel> what did i do
[01:47] <IdleOne> take the off topic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:47] <miguel> ^^^
[01:47] <TreSyr> Okies
[01:48] <TreSyr> miguel: Very good.
[01:48] <holstein> TreSyr: you can paste songs you listen to, and chat in the offtopic channel.. please /join #ubuntu-offtopic and enjoy it
[01:49] <TreSyr> Thanks :)
[01:49] <miguel> nice but can you tell my what i did wrong because somebody want to kick me
[01:49] <holstein> !ot | miguel
[01:50] <holstein> miguel: just /join #ubuntu-offtopic and enjoy chatting there..
[01:53] <Viking667> So. Where does gnome-shell read user preferences from, and on my system, how come it's not setting them even though it says it is?
[01:54] <Viking667> Example: I've got dvorak layout keyboard, yet I get asked for passwords in US until I specifically CHANGE the keyboard layout back to dvorak.
[01:59] <Wferr> Hello, Can someone help me? Im trying to do a apt-get upgrade but i keep on getting this http://hastebin.com/verehaqeru.vhdl
[02:00] <daftykins> Wferr: had a failed upgrade recently?
[02:01] <Wferr> daftykins: i did a upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10 but it worked
[02:01] <daftykins> so 14.04 was installing updates fine up until... now?
[02:02] <Wferr> well it broke after i updated to 14.04
[02:02] <daftykins> interesting
[02:02] <daftykins> is it a VM or a physical system?
[02:03] <Wferr> Its a VPN
[02:03] <daftykins> VPS? what kind
[02:03] <Guest44890> hi
[02:05] <Wferr> daftykins: openvz
[02:05] <daftykins> hi
[02:05] <daftykins> Wferr: it's your unlucky day, udev has issues with openvz, or vice versa
[02:05] <Wferr> dang ;/
[02:06] <daftykins> Wferr: i'd suggest you check with your provider for a solution/alternative
[02:07] <Wferr> ty for the help daftykins
[02:07]  * Wferr sends internet cookies to daftykins 
[02:07] <daftykins> >:D
[02:07] <Wferr> :3
[02:08] <intelligitimate> I can't upgrade to 12.04. I get a "failed to fetch" message and "size mismatch" on a file called "gwibber-service-facebook_3.4.2-0ubuntu2.4_all.deb"
[02:09] <daftykins> upgrading from...?
[02:09] <intelligitimate> 10.04 I think.
[02:09] <daftykins> server?
[02:09] <Wferr> daftykins: would i be able to go on a KVM and reinstall it?
[02:09] <intelligitimate> Main.
[02:09] <daftykins> by 'Main' do you mean desktop?
[02:10] <daftykins> Wferr: not sure i'm afraid, switching tech might be quite serious and need a full reinstall
[02:10] <intelligitimate> No, I mean I have the "main" server selected in the Software Sources.
[02:10] <intelligitimate> But yes, it is the desktop of Lucid.
[02:11] <daftykins> !eol | intelligitimate
[02:11] <daftykins> intelligitimate: really, i would backup and clean install 14.04
[02:12] <anjonath> Hello .. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu on my new laptop. GRUB fail to install .. I boot back in Win8 to remove the failed install partition that Ubuntu created and notice something weird (I think?) Here is how it's organized: http://i.imgur.com/yuHfyqV.jpg .. seems like one partition does everything? what should I do to install Ubuntu on that?
[02:14] <Wferr> daftykins: took the risk because i did a backup right before, purged udev then installed it over kvm and it works :D
[02:15] <daftykins> anjonath: what do you mean 'one does everything' ?
[02:15] <Deihmos> windows backed up ubuntu partitions nicely
[02:15] <daftykins> i see two disks and no sign of Linux partitions
[02:15] <psusi> windows doesn't understand linux filesystems
[02:16] <anjonath> I mean that there is only one partition having anything on it, no booting partition, shouldnt there be one?
[02:16] <anjonath> there is a EFI partition and it's emtpy
[02:16] <daftykins> that EFI partition won't be empty
[02:18] <psusi> that's really weird.. there should be a little something in it
[02:21] <daftykins> !raring
[02:25] <zenNamaste> Hi guys. How to debug a ubuntu app? I found a hang when I change my passwd via gnome-control-center. I can reproduce it 100% with a new installed system. I installed gnome-control-center-dbgsym and run it with `gdb gonme-control-center`. But when I use "l" it can't show the source code so I can't debug it by steps.
[02:27] <zenNamaste> I have checked the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingGNOMEApplets.  However the app I debuged didn't crash at all.
[02:44] <Zachary_DuBois> ^Phantom^
[02:44] <Zachary_DuBois> Oops
[02:44] <Zachary_DuBois> Wrong channel, sorry about that
[02:49] <souliaq> XDG_DESKTOP_DIR should work with paths "beyond" home?
[02:53] <cuddylier> Is it possible to wget from a certain IP on my box?
[02:53] <cuddylier> Rather than the default box IP
[02:54] <[asimov]> If my box cab send altered packets
[02:55] <daftykins> cuddylier: 'default box IP' = ?
[02:56] <daftykins> you're not making sense
[02:56] <cuddylier> dafykins: I mean the main IP on eth0
[02:56] <cuddylier> I have a GRE tunnel on my box as additional IPs, I want to be able to test a download through the GRE connection
[02:56] <cuddylier> Rather than the connection that is direct to the switch
[02:57] <cuddylier> Which is the main eth0 IP
[02:57] <[asimov]> for what?
[02:57] <cuddylier> [asimov] I assume you're talking about what I am? What part do you want clarification on?
[02:59] <[asimov]> cuddylier: To whome?
[02:59] <cuddylier> Sorry?
[02:59] <b9000> how do I start to troubleshoot why my laptop does not go to sleep when I close the lid?
[02:59] <[asimov]> cuddylier: just run the script
[02:59] <cuddylier> What script?
[03:00] <[asimov]> 'clarification'
[03:00] <jellow> b9000, look at dmesg might be something
[03:00] <daftykins> cuddylier: change your gateway
[03:00] <cuddylier> daftykins: Is there anyway without changing my gateway?
[03:00] <psusi> cuddylier, did you read the man page?  --bind-address
[03:01] <b9000> ok thanks
[03:01] <cuddylier> No I did not.
[03:01] <[asimov]> run it
[03:03] <[asimov]> does crystal time move slower than mechanical time?
[03:03] <b9000> nothing in dmesg from what I can see. :(
[03:04] <[asimov]> What iis the difference between gamma waves and gamma rays?
[03:04] <cuddylier> psusi: wget --bind-address xxx.xxx.x.xx -O/dev/null speedtest.pixelwolf.ch
[03:04] <cuddylier> So e.g. that yeah?
[03:04] <daftykins> [asimov]: take your incessant rambling to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:09] <reaper> ok i have a general question that im sure is a no brainer but i cant figure out... i went through the package manager and installed java 7 however i still need jre 1.5.0 at least and its not showing that java in working at java.com
[03:10] <daftykins> it seems unwise to desire such an outdated java
[03:10] <rww> reaper: install icedtea-plugin or whatever it's called
[03:11] <reaper> rww do i just do that through firefox or the package manager?
[03:11] <rww> the package manager
[03:12] <rww> and then close firefox and re-open
[03:12] <rww> installing the Java 7 JRE just installs the Java runtime, not the browser plugin. Icedtea is the browser plugin for OpenJDK
[03:14] <reaper> rww i am doing that now
[03:18] <reaper> rww the script program that i am running says that it needs 1.5.0 how can i get that ? this is on a box just for teamspeak so outdated to me does not matter
[03:19] <rww> 1.5.0 as opposed to an up to date version?
[03:19] <reaper> rww every time that i start it, it states needs 1.5.0 to run
[03:20] <reaper> and then closes
[03:20]  * rww shrugs
[03:20] <rww> i'd contact the vendor. out of date Java is... a problem
[03:20] <reaper> out of date is common on the teamspeak plugins
[03:22] <reaper> its saying it needs java runtime environment 1.5.0 bleh
[03:28] <wjb> Does anyone have experience using ipset with iptables? Inexplicably, after creating an ipset and logging it to verify, it's gone by the time iptables needs it
[03:31] <reaper> rww dumb question but is the jdk*.bin the one that contains the Jre stuff?
[03:32] <rww> reaper: sounds like you're using out-of-repository Java. I don't support that, sorry :(
[03:32] <rww> someone else might know
[03:32] <reaper> ya thats about all i could come up with atm on how to track down an older version and make the reversion of java
[03:33] <fldeepin> hi
[03:35] <wjb> reaper: the jdk is the entire software development kit; it includes the jre binaries, but is overkill if you just need the runtime
[03:35] <reaper> wjb any ideas how to get just the 1.5.0 jre?
[03:37] <Guest278> reaper: what's the real problem? why the jdk 7 is not good for you?
[03:38] <reaper> i am running and deploying a teamspeak shell box just for the server, the bot script that i use required 1.5.0
[03:38] <reaper> it will not accept anything else
[03:38] <wjb> do you have the source of the script?
[03:38] <wjb> it's probably somewhat trivial to update it for java7 or java8
[03:39] <reaper> i am unsure if i have the source for it or not honestly
[03:39] <Guest278> right, java is mostly backwards compatible
[03:39] <reaper> i have the Jar container
[03:39] <Guest278> a jar is a renamed zip
[03:39] <reaper> and i believe all the config files for it
[03:40] <reaper> well i went to java.com and it verified that i do indeed have current
[03:40] <reaper> however its still not wanting to work
[03:40] <wjb> sometimes, a Jar may include the source as well as binaries
[03:40] <wjb> extract the contents of the jar and take a look
[03:41] <wjb> also, here's your jre5 link:
[03:41] <wjb> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase5-419410.html#jre-1.5.0_22-oth-JPR
[03:42] <reaper> what would the source look like?
[03:42] <wjb> Obviously, it's not a great idea to run an outdated version of java on any public-facing machine, so if it were my project, i would strongly suggest not reverting your java installation
[03:42] <wjb> the source would end in a .java extension
[03:42] <reaper> ok still looking
[03:44] <reaper> nah all class files in the folders and one manifest.mf
[03:44] <wjb> the class files are compiled bytecode for the jvm
[03:44] <Guest278> you could still decompile the class files... or use an open source bot
[03:45] <wjb> ^ these are probably both better solutions than installing jre5
[03:45] <reaper> how would i go about doing that
[03:46] <reaper> the bot im using was originally setup for linux like 4 years ago lol
[03:46] <Guest278> for the second option, you google "teamspeak open source bot"
[03:46] <reaper> the name that i am using of the bot is JTS3ServerMod.jar
[03:47] <Guest278> for the first one, you feed the .class files to a decompiler (examples http://askubuntu.com/questions/272189/open-source-free-java-decompiler )
[03:47] <reaper> i am not too worried about the systm
[03:47] <reaper> as its running off a flash drive
[03:48] <reaper> no hardware ie harddrive to interface with
[03:48] <Guest278> then update, then javac the code
[03:50] <newshound>  /set weechat.bar.nicklist.position right
[03:50] <Guest278> or even better, mail the author of the bot, so s/he updates it upstream
[03:51] <reaper> im looking into Krakatau atm
[03:55] <Viking667> hi all. How do I disable a screen when I use xrandr?
[03:55] <nevyn> Viking667: --off
[03:56] <Viking667> so, xrandr --output VGA-0 --off    ?
[03:56] <nevyn> should be.
[03:57] <nevyn> check xrandr --help
[03:57] <Viking667> thanks. I'll try that.
[03:57] <Viking667> ... then I've got to do the gnome-shell --reload and pkill -9 -f gnome-settings-daemon
[03:57] <reaper> guest278 i have never used python is that pretty straight forward to use?
[03:58] <Viking667> Silly thing won't select my preferred screenmode or my preferred keyboard layout on user login.
[03:59] <Guest278> wgat
[03:59] <Guest278> what does that have with java
[04:02] <Corvette> So I put in a new mobo and water cooled my machine, but running the same OS, Ubuntu 12.04. For some reason now it won't recognize ethernet
[04:03] <reaper> that decompiler/assmbler says that it uses python to do the stuff
[04:04] <reaper> should i look at a different one?
[04:04] <wjb> The new motherboard likely has a NIC which requires new drivers
[04:04] <wjb> Did you reinstall 12.04, or did you just swap out hardware?
[04:05] <reaper> guest278 that decompiler/assmbler says that it uses python to do the stuff
[04:05] <reaper> guest278 should i look at a different one?
[04:05] <wjb> reaper: take a look at Procyon
[04:07] <Guest278> reaper: just follow a tutorial, see http://www.acloudtree.com/hacking-java-bytecode-for-programmers-part4-krakatau-and-the-case-of-the-integer-overflow/
[04:07] <Guest278> section "the krakatau way"
[04:07] <Guest278> not "the hard way"
[04:11] <reaper> lol ya i noticed that
[04:23] <MrBender91> Hi, I'm trying to image a drive using dd. If the drive is 120GB but the last partition is only at the 45GB mark why can't I just image the first 45GB of the drive?
[04:26] <Beldar> MrBender91, I would clone it, dd can be dangerous
[04:27] <Beldar> if you clone you have a backup
[04:27] <MrBender91> Beldar: Using Clonezilla? That program has never made sense to me.
[04:28] <Beldar> MrBender91, I use clonezilla, it is not hard at all, I can see if you not used to it that it could be.
[04:28] <Beldar> you're
[04:29] <rww> I'd go with Clonezilla too, but I don't understand the original question, it seems like it should be doable.
[04:30] <Guest278> you can also clone with gparted. fallocate -l 45G imagefile.img ; pkexec gparted /dev/sdX imagefile.img ; copy-paste the partition ; click Apply.
[04:31] <Beldar> MrBender91, Here is a picture set, I would be more than happy to get you going if needed. http://clonezilla.org/screenshots/?in_path=/00_Clonezilla
[04:32] <Guest278> for dd, you set the parameters bs and count such that bs*count >= 45GiB (be careful of the GB/GiB) and that bs bytes are copied in memory at each round.
[04:32] <Beldar> I have used a copy and paste with gparted that works fine.
[04:34] <MrBender91> Beldar: I'm going to try the gparted route since I'm already familiar with it...
[04:34] <MrBender91> is fallocate necessary?
[04:34] <Guest278> no, but there is no reason not to use it on ext4, btrfs, xfs
[04:35] <Guest278> it's just to help keep fragmentation low while writing to the image, useful if youìre writing something else to the disk in the process
[04:37] <dw1> hmm, what sound file is used for the gnome-terminal beep?
[04:38] <Beldar> MrBender91, Cool, you still have the original that way. ;)
[04:38] <dw1> ok its in System -> Sound. easy
[04:38] <dw1> but how do I add more. hmm
[04:41] <dw1> i see lots in the /usr/share/sounds and /usr/share/gnome-control-center/sounds/gnome-sounds-default.xml but they dont show up in the preferences
[04:41] <dw1> hrm
[04:48] <hoho> I saved a file MAKEDEV to the desktop, and entered chmod u+x MAKEDEV, but was told that MAKEDEV doesn't exist - any suggestions?
[04:49] <MrBender91> Beldar: and Guest278
[04:49] <MrBender91> Guest278:
[04:49] <Beldar> MrBender91, yes.
[04:49] <Guest278> hoho: ./MAKEDEV
[04:49] <MrBender91> I'll let you guys know how this goes, about 40% done now
[04:50] <Beldar> MrBender91, Cool. ;)
[04:51] <hoho> guest278: Sorry, rather inexperienced - could you explain more?
[04:51] <Guest278> hoho: but the real question is, what is the real problem? what are you trying to do?
[04:51] <hoho> Create a video devices node - http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Webcam-HOWTO/dev-intro.html
[04:51] <MrBender91> I've sysprepped a Win7 install to have as a backup
[04:52] <Guest278> Why do you want to create it by hand?
[04:52] <Guest278> the devices are supposed to be detected automatically
[04:53] <hoho> guest278: I don't have one, and I want to make Pidgin or webrtc think that it exists.
[04:54] <Guest278> ok, Any reason you're not using WebCamStudio, v4l2loopback, or other solutions that can be quickly found on google?
[04:55] <hoho> guest278: this seemd to be a solution to the following problem: audio on webrtc sites (like talky.io and tawk.com) only seem to work with firefox when one has a webcam. So I thought if I could create a virtual one...
[04:55] <hoho> guest278: I installed webcamstudio, but couldn't get it to work...
[04:56] <hoho> guest278: v412loopback might I suppose...
[04:56] <Viking667> isn't there a gstreamer loopback module too?
[04:57] <hoho> viking667: like a plugin that woudl permit a virtual webcam?
[05:03] <Viking667> possibly.
[05:03] <Viking667> might be a static picture, for example.
[05:03] <hoho> viking667: okay - are you thinking of something like this - https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback/wiki/Mplayer
[05:04] <Viking667> don't know, it was back in the days of 2010 when I last saw it.
[05:06] <Sachiru> Anyone use ZFS on ubuntu for production and manage to get it run stable?
[05:06] <Sachiru> How much RAM does your machine have?
[05:07] <inuyasha> 2 GB
[05:07] <Sachiru> On a machine that has ZFS?
[05:07] <Sachiru> Seriously?
[05:09] <RWOverdijk> Hey. I have a server with ubuntu 13.10, and wish to upgrade to 14.04. The machines, upon running do-release-upgrade say there's no new release found. Any ideas?
[05:10] <reaper> Any ideas how to correct this?
[05:10] <reaper> reaper@Reaper13:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ ln -s ~/jre1.5.0_22/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so.ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘./libjavaplugin_oji.so.’: Permission denied
[05:10] <RWOverdijk> reaper, sudo?
[05:10] <reaper> did that and the link is red
[05:11] <reaper> not green
[05:11] <Ben64> use full paths
[05:13] <reaper> still red
[05:13] <reaper> sudo ln -s /home/reaper/java/jre1.5.0_22/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so.
[05:14] <reaper> OMG nvm i got it i am stupid
[05:14] <reaper> i needed a space at the end for the period
[05:14] <reaper> 30min of pissing with that for a stupid syntax
[05:15] <Beldar> RWOverdijk, sudo yes
[05:15] <RWOverdijk> Beldar, What do you mean?
[05:16] <Ben64> reaper: its not a period. in order to make a symbolic link you need the source and the target "." is the directory you're in
[05:16] <Beldar> RWOverdijk, You need a sudo with that command, do you have X
[05:16] <RWOverdijk> Beldar, No I don't need sudo for do-release-upgrade, it'll ask me for my password later on.
[05:16] <Ben64> yes, you do need sudo for it
[05:17] <RWOverdijk> But I found it. It's my prompt setting
[05:17] <RWOverdijk> Ben64, Perhaps, but you don't need sudo in front of the command.
[05:17] <Ben64> you do
[05:17] <RWOverdijk> Ben64, Don't argue with me I just upgraded 23 servers.
[05:17] <RWOverdijk> Ben64, You're wrong. :)
[05:17] <Ben64> nope, need sudo
[05:17] <RWOverdijk> lol
[05:17] <Beldar> +1 for Ben64 lol
[05:17] <RWOverdijk> Then you're both wrong
[05:18] <Ben64> !do-release-upgrade
[05:18] <Ben64> bah
[05:18] <RWOverdijk> You don't need sudo in front of the command. It'll do it later on and ask for your password.
[05:18] <Beldar> RWOverdijk, Hmmm, in the words of eddy murphy as buckwheat "otay" ;)
[05:18] <RWOverdijk> I'm not lying. 23 servers agree with me.
[05:18] <ianorlin> unless you ssh in as root
[05:18] <RWOverdijk> I didn't.
[05:19] <RWOverdijk> I just run do-release-upgrade, and it runs.
[05:19] <reaper> ben64 as soon as i spaced the period at the end of the line of code it worked and turned blue/green
[05:19] <RWOverdijk> Then it asks for my password at some point.
[05:19] <Ben64> reaper: yeah but its not "a period" -- it represents the directory you're in.
[05:20] <reaper> and crap firefox still isnt seeing the stupid thing
[05:20] <RWOverdijk> Beldar, Ben64, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/5fx2el5lql1lidy/wvwh9en_.png
[05:20] <RWOverdijk> Otay indeed. It was just my prompt setting. :p
[05:21] <Ben64> reaper: what are you trying to do
[05:21] <Beldar> RWOverdijk, just a sk for a password does not mean that is correct, but I'm not here to argue, honestly I don't really care, other than in bricking your setup.
[05:21] <Beldar> asking
[05:22] <reaper> Ben64install a previous version of jre specifically the 1.5.0 version
[05:22] <GJPMiningco> hey is there a way to enable the root account for login on ubuntu?
[05:22] <Ben64> reaper: sounds like a bad idea
[05:22] <Ben64> !root | GJPMiningco
[05:22] <MrBender22> GJPMiningco: yeah sudo su -
[05:22] <reaper> ben64 not for a plain shell thats just for teamspeak and has like 1gb of room lol
[05:22] <MrBender22> GJPMiningco: then passwd
[05:22] <RWOverdijk> Beldar, Look, I don't care either. I'm just telling you it does work, and that you're wrong. Just accept it and be happy that you now know one more thing.
[05:22] <Ben64> sudo su is bad practice, don't do that
[05:23] <Ben64> you should not be setting a root password either
[05:23] <Beldar> RWOverdijk, lol, yeah right dumkoff. ;)
[05:23] <RWOverdijk> Sure, I'm the domkop.
[05:23] <Beldar> I have forgotten more than you will ever know
[05:23] <MrBender22> GJPMiningco: since root now has a known password you can login directly as root
[05:23] <reaper> ben64 the shell needs to only run 3 things really lol teamspeak, the admin bot and remote connect for me
[05:23] <GJPMiningco> k
[05:24] <RWOverdijk> haha
[05:24] <RWOverdijk> I love nerds :p
[05:24] <Ben64> GJPMiningco: i'd advise against that, having sudo is for security, you'd never need to login as root
[05:25] <MrBender22> I don't remember if Ubuntu allows ssh logins from root but ya. Your trigger finger is your safety in this case.
[05:27] <reaper> Ben64 would i also possibly have to create a link in the firefox paths too?
[05:27] <Ben64> MrBender22: in the future please don't suggest that people set a root password
[05:29] <Guest278> I agree, that's pointless
[05:30] <Guest278> If you want to do many commands as root, just sudo su
[05:30] <Ben64> no. that is wrong
[05:30] <MrBender22> Guest278: You see what you've done?!
[05:31] <Ben64> "sudo -i" if you absolutely need a root shell, which is very rare
[05:31] <MrBender22> Ben64: you were helping me with the clonezilla business earlier right?
[05:32] <Ben64> earlier today? doubtful
[05:32] <Sachiru> So, anywoone with ZFS on Ubuntu?
[05:33] <Ben64> Sachiru: ask your real question and find out
[05:33] <Guest278> Ben64: why sudo -i rather than sudo su, what's the difference?
[05:33] <Sachiru> I already did
[05:33] <Sachiru> Ages ago
 Anyone use ZFS on ubuntu for production and manage to get it run stable?
 How much RAM does your machine have?
[05:34] <Ben64> Guest278: sets the environment properly. doing it other ways can cause you to be unable to login, among other problems
[05:34] <Guest278> oh, thanks
[05:34] <hoho> viking667: So I've been folling the instuctions at http://askubuntu.com/questions/139239/fake-a-webcam-using-a-video-loopback-device
[05:34] <Ben64> Sachiru: thats more of a poll. if you're having a problem, describe it in as much detail as possible
[05:35] <Sachiru> Not having a problem per se, planning on deploying Ubuntu server with two/three VMs on it, running ZFS as storage for VM disks
[05:35] <Sachiru> That's why I'm asking about RAM usage so that I know how much to spec on the server.
[05:36] <Ben64> then this is probably not the channel for you. this is for ubuntu support
[05:36] <hoho> viking667: but I can'T find the v4l2loopback source folder - any suggestions?
[05:36] <Guest278> Sachiru: http://superuser.com/questions/558748/zfs-on-linuxs-memory-requirement-for-a-non-fileserver-computer
[05:36] <reaper> java -version
[05:36] <reaper> java version "1.7.0_55"
[05:36] <reaper> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.7) (7u55-2.4.7-1ubuntu1)
[05:36] <reaper> OpenJDK Client VM (build 24.51-b03, mixed mode, sharing) any ideas how to purge that new stuff out to rever to the old
[05:38] <grilo> eai
[05:38] <grilo> br?
[05:38] <Ben64> !br | grilo
[05:39] <MrBender22> Guest278: sudo su -  is sudo running su. the - sets env equal to a login
[05:40] <MrBender22> Guest278: where as sudo -i is sudo running the users login shell directly as if they had logged in. I really don't think there's a functional difference
[05:41] <Ben64> there isn't, but its a good habit to not use su :)
[05:41] <Ben64> and if you forget the last "-" then it's bad
[05:41] <hoho> Would anyone happen to know if source folders are in a particular location?
[05:43] <MrBender22> hoho: either /usr/local/src or /usr/src
[05:45] <hoho> mrbender22: thanks
[05:47] <Viking667> sorry, no
[05:57] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, hopefully this is a simple problem.
[05:58] <DreamPCs> I need to know how to set up printer sharing in ubuntu 12.04 via the terminal
[05:58] <DreamPCs> I'm using xbmcbuntu for a htpc setup and I would like to install a printer/fax machine there to network it.
[05:58] <DreamPCs> The printer works by default with Ubuntu (just tried it on a stand alone installation) but I don't know how to set up sharing from the terminal (via ssh)
[05:59] <DreamPCs> Any ideas?
[05:59] <MrBender22> DreamPCs: As in a Samba setup for Windows boxes?
[05:59] <DreamPCs> Yes
[05:59] <DreamPCs> Both Windows and Linux clients
[05:59] <DreamPCs> samba is already set up on the PC and all devices can see and interact with one another.
[06:00] <MrBender22> I can't say for a fax machine per se but sharing a printer is straightforward
[06:01] <DreamPCs> Yeah the fax would be stand alone. That's why I need it near the HTPC because that's where my phone line is. The hardware alone with handle the fax capabilities.
[06:01] <DreamPCs> So all I really need is the printer setup.
[06:01] <MrBender22> What is a htpc? As in a HA setup?
[06:02] <DreamPCs> home theatre PC  - It's a dell desktop sitting behind my television running xbmcbuntu
[06:02] <DreamPCs> So basically ubuntu 12.04 that autoboots XBMC (a media center front end)
[06:02] <MrBender22> gotchya ha good
[06:03] <MrBender22> DreamPCs: your windows boxes are XP era or 7?
[06:04] <DreamPCs> One PC is running 7 and the other 8
[06:04] <DreamPCs> homegroups have been disabled on both
[06:07] <MrBender22> DreamPCs: you'll need a [print$] share on your htpc with the printer drivers for both 7 and 8 in there. Something like https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_as_a_print_server will give you most of what you need
[06:09] <DreamPCs> Ok, I'm checking it out now.
[06:09] <DreamPCs> Thank you.
[06:13] <MrBender22> DreamPCs: When you are doing this build for XP since it's simpler and much more stable in samba. 7 and 8 will understand it fine.
[06:14] <DreamPCs> I'm sorry I don't understand what you're saying.
[06:45] <Macer> is there a way to add openvpn to the connection manager for VPNs?
[06:46] <Macer> ah ok. i guess you have to add the network-manager-openvpn plugin
[06:48] <skeamz> how do i move a folder with sudo privileges?
[06:50] <rvdv> skeamz: how can a folder have sudo privileges? OR you mean "how can I move with sudo privileges a folder?" But that would be a strange question too because you then just add sudo before the mv command
[06:54] <skeamz> i just want to move a folder to my www/html dir and my username doesnt have privlages
[06:54] <skeamz> but i think im getting there
[06:54] <skeamz> sudo cd /####/####/
[06:54] <skeamz> ?
[06:54] <skeamz> cp
[06:54] <skeamz> *
[06:55] <rathi> sudo mv ./this/place /that/place
[06:55] <Ben64> skeamz: cp is copy, mv is move
[06:55] <rathi> mv to move, first arguement is the thing you want to move, second is where you want to move it to
[06:56] <rvdv> skeamz: have a space between source and destination
[06:56] <skeamz> thnx ill give it a shot
[07:03] <ben14> yoo
[07:05] <_mote_> hi guyz, how to know if you are infected with a malware? I'm using ubuntu 14.04. When I visit a certain sites with cloudflare, they ask me to enter a captcha and say I need to scan my computer for malware or virus
[07:16] <ben14> where do usb drives auto mount to?
[07:17] <hazz_> hi there can someone explain howto install perf_event i always got WARNING: perf not found for kernel 3.13.0-997
[07:17] <DreamPCs> _mote_ those are just popups from the sites. Nothing to worry about,
[07:21] <hazz_> hi there can someone explain howto install perf_event i always got
[07:21] <hazz_> hi there can someone explain howto install perf_event i always got WARNING: perf not found for kernel 3.13.0-997
[07:26] <DreamPCs> ben14: typically they are in /media
[07:26] <DreamPCs> hazz_ I don't know but it sounds like you need to upgrade your kernel
[07:27] <ben14> DreamPCs: thanks !
[07:28] <DreamPCs> np!
[07:28] <hazz_> it doesn't depend on upgrading !
[07:31] <juiced> free
[07:32] <DreamPCs> Sorry hazz_ it was just a guess.
[07:35] <mikubuntu> what's the spanish ubuntu channel on freenode again?
[07:35] <systom404> woo ubuntu now on my chromebook and got XBMC Fusion all fired up as well
[07:36] <rvdv> hazz_: you might want to install the linux-tools package for your kernel
[07:37] <ben14> how do I mount a drive that can be read and written to by all users?
[07:38] <aslan> Hi I telnet to the localhost on 22 port give openssh version SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_6.6 and on the same systme if I do the ssh -V i get this "OpenSSH_6.2p2, OpenSSL 1.0.1e". the problem is I'm not able to do a ssh from other machine to this one what to do now
[07:39] <hazz_> hi there can someone explain howto install perf_event i always got linux-tools-virtual is already the newest version.
[07:39] <hazz_> sorry
[07:39] <Macer> hm. what's the lightest weight ui web browser available?
[07:39] <hazz_> linux-tools-virtual is already the newest version.
[07:42] <rvdv> hazz_: according http://web.eece.maine.edu/~vweaver/projects/perf_events/faq.html it should be in linux-tools-VER where VER is the version of your kernel ...
[07:43] <rvdv> Maybe check out if that package is installed
[07:47] <hazz_> rvdv already checked but let's see that again thanks,by the way
[07:48] <ben14> ls
[07:48] <ben14> opps sorry
[07:49] <ben14> question unanswered above though can someone help me
[07:50] <DreamPCs> Are you trying to mount a drive that is already shared on a network and already accesible by other users, or are you trying to mount a drive and make said drive available to other users? ben14
[07:52] <robin2> leave
[07:55] <ben14> DreamPCs: I am trying to mount the drive to /mnt/usb ( already made the folder ) using 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb' ( I am using raspberry pi by the way ). It mounts successfully, but cannot do anything to it unless I am root or use sudo
[07:56] <DreamPCs> What OS?
[07:56] <ben14> debian wheezy
[07:58] <ben14> I have usb drive connected to it and it is /dev/sda1 and it sucessfully mounted with the command above (i used sudo infront of it) but I cannot write to it unless I am root or using sudo
[07:59] <ben14> just wondering if there is something missing that I should put so it can be written by all users
[08:05] <humbag> i would make directories in it such as Media, User1 and then chmod them to be writeable
[08:14] <majod> is there any way i can improve usb speed? on windows i copy from my camera 9-10MB/s, on ubuntu only 6MB/s
[08:16] <someHuman> Hello!
[08:16] <mynameisrickert1> hey
[08:16] <someHuman> You guys know of the command ctrl + w right?
[08:17] <someHuman> Well, what I'd like to do is to apply  'always show on top' effect while my windows are in ctrl + w so that I can work on them side by side.
[08:18] <someHuman> That probably will make the texts small to read but I'll just make the terminal fonts bigger ;)
[08:18] <ServerSage> Hey Folks, in 14.04 I've set a static IP using the "Network Connections" GUI under Unity.  But, alas, it seems to be ignoring it and getting an IP using DHCP.  Am I missing something?
[08:18] <someHuman> To anyone that would help me please tag my nick because I am working on something right now.
[08:19] <erle-> how can I see which lib a programm picks?
[08:19] <erle-> for example if i run avconv, and i have different versions of a codec lib
[08:19] <erle-> one in /ust/lib and one in /usr/local/lib
[08:20] <llutz> erle-: ldd $(which avconv)
[08:20] <erle-> llutz, thanks, that is exactly what i needed
[08:21] <skeamz> hi again, how do i change privileges of a directory to public read only
[08:21] <mynameisrickert1> chmod 775
[08:22] <llutz> skeamz: chmod o=rx dir/
[08:22] <erle-> x means list files in case of directories
[08:22] <erle-> read alone does not help
[08:22] <skeamz> thnx gna check it out
[08:29] <bsdbandit> morning all
[08:29] <Pollaman> Hi friends
[08:30] <Pollaman> I love the falos
[08:30] <Pollaman> I love much
[08:30] <Pollaman> I love anal sex
[08:30] <DJones> Pollaman: Stop that
[08:31] <Pollaman> Do you speak?
[08:31] <phyzloc> After all my tried to get my Geforce 8600 GT working on Ubuntu 14.04 failed so I've reinstalled the OS and running Ubuntu's slow drivers :-(
[08:32] <ServerSage> Pollaman: This is an Ubuntu Linux support channel.  Family friendly.  Take you smut elsewhere.
[08:32] <Pollaman> Djones, I suck your dick, okay?
[08:32] <Pollaman> I'll suck your dick bitch
[08:32] <Pollaman> You are a dirty bitch
[08:32] <Pollaman> Motherfucker
[08:33] <bsdbandit> i have already have a startup script located in the /etc/init.d directory im trying to move more towards upstart configuration would i just need to leave the startup script in the /etc/init.d directory and create a symbolic link or should i just move the script to another directory and point the exec /path/to/script/test.sh
[08:35] <thecha> hi ubuntu! i wrote a bashscript but the the only way it executes if i pick execute in terminal
[08:35] <thecha> what to do?
[08:36] <thecha> how can it be executed just by doubclicking it?
[08:36] <ikonia> thecha: a bash script needs a terminal to run
[08:36] <ikonia> or a "shell"
[08:36] <thecha> :( no way to have it run without openin a terminal?
[08:36] <thecha> you use bashscripts yourself?
[08:36] <ikonia> thecha: it needs a shell,
[08:36] <ikonia> I do use shell scripts
[08:37] <thatonegentry>  who wants massive doge tips? if you're registered join #theboffin they love new pe
[08:37] <thecha> aren't bashcripts able to create a virus?
[08:37] <thecha> or behave like one
[08:37] <ikonia> thecha: they can be a problem sure
[08:38] <bsdbandit> whois ubuntu!
[08:38] <thecha> is there a list of all bash commands?
[08:39] <thecha> i want to use ubuntu mostly through bashscrpits
[08:39] <NGC982> Guys, i'm trying to create a bash script that executes something, waits X seconds and then execute something else. I do not need help with the actual script, but i seriosly do not know what to google.
[08:39] <ikonia> then just start learning/playing
[08:39] <ikonia> NGC982: "sleep" is the function you want
[08:39] <NGC982> Oh, allright.
[08:40] <thecha> ng press sleep comand
[08:40] <thecha> and then the amount of seconds to wait as argument
[08:40] <NGC982> I'm making a script that will turn on and off a lamp (tellstick) when a torrent is completed.
[08:40] <NGC982> ok
[08:40] <thecha> if you need longer use the umber of minutes followed by an m without pause
[08:40] <NGC982> ok
[08:41] <NGC982> wow, that was simple.
[08:41] <NGC982> :
[08:41] <NGC982> D
[08:41] <thecha> best thing about it it jus werks
[08:41] <morph-> anyone here use symfony?
[08:42] <thecha> Ngc can you help me too?
[08:42] <thecha> is there a bash command that allows me to mount a drive?
[08:42] <ikonia> thecha: that's not "bash"
[08:43] <thecha> and start certain apps too
[08:43] <ikonia> thecha: that's the "mount" command
[08:43] <ikonia> that's not part of bash but a seperate binary called from bash
[08:43] <thecha> i cant use that in a bash script?
[08:43] <thecha> i see
[08:43] <thecha> thanks
[08:43] <morph-> mkdir /newdrive
[08:43] <morph-> mount /dev/sda1 (or whatever) /newdrive
[08:44] <thecha> thanks
[08:44] <thecha> another question
[08:45] <thecha> if i want to start a software with the same script  just "service [ame of software] restart "?
[08:45] <thecha> can i  use soemthing else instead of restart too?
[08:45] <ikonia> depends on how that service/application is launched
[08:45] <thecha> i see
[08:45] <morph-> /etc/init/d/serivcename
[08:46] <thecha> i see
[08:46] <thecha> just alling its name will manifest an instanc e of it
[08:46] <thecha> thank you
[08:46] <morph-> u can ask questions here til ur hands fall off but the truth is u wont remember hardly any of this til u figur eit out on ur own
[08:46] <NGC982> ikonia, thecha: Thank you! That was super easy. I noticed that the software for turning lights on and off need an introducing jump to work, so it turned out like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7527804/
[08:46] <tado> hey. my touchpad buttons suddenly stopped working! i had suspended the session last night and laptop shut down for low battery as soon as i turned it on this morning. after booting, no left, middle or right click. any help?
[08:46] <NGC982> Now, i'll just put that in the complete part of rtorrent
[08:47] <thecha> i am using service blah restart to start the taskmanager thing of ubuntu
[08:47] <smss1995> hi everybody
[08:48] <thecha> hi
[08:49] <smss1995> who know that how can I hide my IP? (slash mode nickname +x does NOT work)
[08:50] <Ben64> smss1995: ask in #freenode
[08:50] <smss1995> Ben64: Thanks man, :)
[08:52] <flint_beastwood> hi
[08:56] <lamper> would anyone reccomend any strategy
[08:56] <lamper> engine
[08:56] <tado> hey folks. my touchpad keys have all of a sudden stopped working. touchpad still works, as does clicking on the pad itself. anyone has ideas to fix them?
[08:59] <NGC982> Hm. I'm running this as my rtorrent config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7527853/
[09:00] <NGC982> The script in the bottom is executing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7527804/
[09:00] <MagePsycho> how to remove Â from my text file
[09:00] <NGC982> I still get bad return code. Is there something i need to to (like priviliges) the script file for it to execute properly?
[09:08] <tado> cristian_c: ok, non c'è stato bisogno. il laptop si era spento perchè la batteria era scarica, quando avevo riaccesso dopo uno standby. ho provato a rimettere in standby, risvegliarlo e ora funziona
[09:09] <DJones> !it | tado
[09:09] <tado> DJones: sorry, typed in the wrong tab :)
[09:09] <DJones> tado: I guessed that might have happend
[09:10] <NGC982> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7527904/
[09:10] <NGC982> Oooh..
[09:12] <joelmo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8DmEgOkA
[09:13] <boydoy> hi! any suggest can i use for network firewall good for 50 user and open source?
[09:13] <joelmo> what can i do about this ^ got a half-installed package that cant be removed or installed agaion
[09:13] <joelmo> boydoy you could ask in #networking
[09:14] <joelmo> I think they know
[09:16] <ikonia> joelmo: iptables ?
[09:16] <boydoy> yes. about networking..
[09:16] <ikonia> or "ufw" in ubuntu
[09:17] <boydoy> u have a link for that?
[09:17] <ikonia> to be honest, if you can't find basic documentation on it on the ubuntu site or the internet you're going to struggle to use it
[09:17] <tado> I have installed intel-linux-graphics-installer and ran it, should i do something to select the correct drivers? i had thought it would fix a graphic glitch that i have, but it didn't...
[09:17] <ainx> hello
[09:18] <ainx> unetbootin on ubuntu 14.04 can't work as well.. error message "dumb core", how to fix that?
[09:19] <Sachiru> Lubuntu is essentially Ubuntu with a different window manager right?
[09:19] <ainx> Sachiru, different desktop environment
[09:21] <Sachiru> Yes, but the core is still Ubuntu, right?
[09:21] <ikonia> Sachiru: main packages are the same but the desktop stack is different (although comes from the same repo)
[09:22] <ainx> Sachiru, only different on DE and WM, that it
[09:22] <Sachiru> Cool
[09:23] <Sachiru> I'd like to have my server have a lightweight GUI when I VNC into it
[09:29] <erase> test
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> is it a known issue to manually enable nm-applet on lubuntu?
[09:35] <tado> i have a graphic problem. when windows are maximised, i have to hover with the mouse pointer 1cm above what i want to click in order to select it, as if the graphic pointer was off range. does anyone have suggestions?
[09:41] <test1> hi
[09:47] <needed543> i am making a website that has users playlist, I havent done much database yet, what would be a good way to store a playlist
[09:51] <digi0ps> I have a  problem with my Ubuntu. Everytime I shutdown my computer ( whether Graphically or through  CLI ) it shutdown and restarts itself.
[09:51] <digi0ps> I have tried every command for shuttting it down. But still it wont!
[09:52] <wontoner_io> needed543: consider using a LAMP configuration, linux-apache-mysql-php.. The mysql would store the data in a database and PHP would call it up.
[09:52] <digi0ps> Please help please.
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> digi0ps: did you try halt -p
[09:52] <digi0ps> lotuspsychje, no. i will try it now.
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> digi0ps: wich ubuntu version is this on what device?
[09:53] <Kaapa> hey there - trying to install disper-indicator, but even after I add the ppa I can't get to the package
[09:53] <Kaapa> am I missing something obvious?
[09:53] <Kaapa> also, on 14.04, can't run "caffeine"
[09:53] <wontoner_io> needed543: This site may give you more information  http://lamphowto.com/
[09:54] <digi0ps> I am having Ubuntu 14.04 LTS besides my Windows 8.1 on my desktop ( config: Intel Haswell i5, 4gb ram, 500gb hdd, inbuilt intel hd graphics ).
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> digi0ps: and windows shutsdown normally?
[09:54] <needed543> wontoner_io: i have the server, mysql, and everything working
[09:54] <digi0ps> lotuspsychje, yes it does.
[09:54] <needed543> wontoner_io: i just want to know how the best way to store a playlist would be
[09:54] <digi0ps> its just few days since i installed ubuntu.
[09:55] <r0x> hi
[09:55] <needed543> like each playlist is a new table? or all  the playlists in 1 table
[09:55] <r0x> i have a little issue with ubuntu
[09:55] <wontoner_io> needed543: Try this tutorial.. http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/php/php13p2.html
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> !ask | r0x
[09:56] <needed543> wontoner_io: did you read what i said?
[09:56] <wontoner_io> needed543: It really depends on the design you choose. You could put playlists all in one table, or create a new table for each playlist.. Either is valid.
[09:56] <needed543> wontoner_io: either is valid
[09:56] <needed543> ?
[09:56] <needed543> is it ok for there to be MANY tables?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> digi0ps: you have wakeup on LAN enabled in bios?
[09:56] <needed543> one of each user
[09:56] <wontoner_io> needed543: Yes.
[09:56] <r0x> it seems that exist that problem since ubuntu 10.XX. In few words, when i have a big load on the hdd, ubuntu shows me a writing error on the encrypted filesystem e log me out
[09:57] <needed543> wontoners_io: i have 10000 users, each with 10 playlists, its OK to have millions of tables?
[09:57] <digi0ps> lotuspsychje, i have not checked that. i will try the halt -p command and check the "wake up on Lan" in bios and tell you in few minutes.
[09:57] <r0x> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1047261
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> digi0ps: some handy stuff here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132882/why-do-i-get-a-reboot-instead-of-a-shutdown
[09:58] <wontoner_io> needed543: Yes just make sure to configure your database to allow that. You shouldn't have a problem with the 'maximum tables' limit
[09:58] <needed543> wontoner_io: how do i keep track of all the playlists, do i have another table which has each playlist/table
[09:58] <wontoner_io> needed543
[09:58] <wontoner_io> needed543: That is a broad question. There are many ways to handle the task
[09:58] <needed543> im just new lol
[09:58] <needed543> dont know how to start this project
[09:59] <wontoner_io> needed543: You might consider sketching out several different approaches, and then do a review to see which works best
[09:59] <needed543> because it starts with storing the playlists
[09:59] <wontoner_io> needed543: I would recommend going through a tutorial or two, following the author's instructions.. this way you have fresh in your head the method for using the database
[09:59] <wontoner_io> needed543: Then once you are sure all the connections work, you can begin to construct your more complicated table scheme
[10:00] <needed543> wontoner_io: iv been thinking of one way which is there is a table with "song name', and "playlist" collumns,   the name is name and the playlist collumn is putting id of playlist,,, so you could query "Select * where playlist=
[10:00] <wontoner_io> needed543: Perhaps make a prototype which handles 100 users with 1 playlist each
[10:01] <needed543> wontoner_io: do you think that is a good route,
[10:01] <needed543> it would essentially create a HUGE database.
[10:01] <wontoner_io> needed543: If you want to talk with some database guru types, you can try asking over at #mysql
[10:01] <needed543> it wont let me talk there
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !info ampache | needed543 maybe this can help?
[10:03] <acsoka> hi everyone
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> acsoka: welcome mate, what can we do for you
[10:03] <wontoner_io> needed543: You can also post on http://dba.stackexchange.com/ which is a forum for database administrators
[10:04] <acsoka> im trying to create multiple charts from one query in CDE but not having any luck
[10:04] <needed543> wontoner_io: thanks, ill definitely use the link
[10:04] <acsoka> i have a query with three measures, and would like to use the Chart component to display three small charts within the one component
[10:05] <acsoka> I set isMultiValued to True, but this just seems to sum the results
[10:05] <wontoner_io> needed543: Here is another forums for open source website development, specifically database related topics: http://forums.devshed.com/databases-28/
[10:06] <acsoka> lotuspsychje does that make sense?
[10:06] <wontoner_io> needed543: One step at a time, is my recommendation. Run through a tutorial or two, try to construct a prototype, and make some postings on the forums. I'm not sure why #mysql is no chat.. *shrugs*
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> acsoka: this goes over my head mate sorry :p
[10:07] <acsoka> no problem, thanks though. is there anyone here who may know about this?
[10:07] <wontoner_io> needed543: making sketches on paper, or in a layout program might help.. to keep your thinking clear
[10:08] <wontoner_io> It sounds like a reasonably complicated project
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> acsoka: join #cde :p
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> acsoka: maybe some experts awake there
[10:11] <needed543> wontoner_io: im posting on one of them right now, and yeah iv been trying on paper, iv been thinking about this project for some time and have used paper a couple times. Thanks for the links, the first one looks very good and im using it
[10:13] <wontoner_io> needed543: Getting a project started can be a struggle. If you connect with other people working with the same tools it can boost your confidence
[10:23] <ki7mt> Anyone know off hand which version the Debian Import comes from at the freeze?
[10:23] <megamansec> Hey guys, i'm trying to run "sudo -u megamansecfirefox -H /usr/bin/firefox $@" as a normal user, but I don't want to have to enter my password every time I run the command
[10:24] <megamansec> Is there any way to make it so I can sudo -u megamansecfirefox without using my password?
[10:24] <megamansec> I've tried adding "megamansec ALL=(megamansecfirefox) ALL" to /etc/sudoers, but to no avail.
[10:26] <veleno> hello. I’m having issues unmounting an NFS share. The umount completes with no errors, but i still see this : http://pastebin.com/RgTJUvRi . i’m on ubuntu 12.04 lts . Interestingly, cat /proc/mounts seems to be correctly in sync with the mount/umount operations
[10:29] <megamansec> Ah, had to be megamansec ALL=(megamansecfirefox) NOPASSWD: ALL
[10:44] <temp_joe> Hi all, Anyone know which iRC network this chat is on if I want to join on my client?
[10:45] <joe_dm> found it, freenode thanks.
[10:47] <Guest42494> Hey guys, I'm running 12.04 and my WiFi keeps dropping periodically. I searched around, and the two immediate solutions posted - namely to set Network Manager to ignore IPv6, as well as input the MAC Address of the router in the BSSID - don't work for me. I'm currently hardwired to the router. Any ideas?
[10:48] <gry> about wifi: please share your hardware details as well ('lspci' should mention your wifi card model)
[10:51] <Guest42494> gry - I've got a whole textfile full of details. Hang on, let me post a link.
[10:53] <Guest42494> gry - here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7528451/
[10:59] <Guest42494> gry - Have you read my pastebin?
[11:00] <gry> yes, I am unfamiliar with this hardware so I hope someone else would be able to help you out
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | Guest42494
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> Guest42494: did you test multiple security WEP WPA2 to see if it drops you?
[11:02] <andybrine> Doe anyone know how to disable compiz on start?
[11:03] <Guest42494> lotuspsychje - On my laptop, I've set Wireless Security to WPA & WPA2 Personal.... the router's security setting is WPA2-PSK
[11:03] <peyam> Hi
[11:03] <Guest42494> gry - thanks anyway
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> Guest42494: did you check your additional driver list, for alternative drivers for your atheros?
[11:03] <peyam> When I hit the suspend button it goes black and it shows the log in page
[11:03] <joe_dm> andy, is there an init.d script you can disable?
[11:03] <peyam> how do I fix it?
[11:04] <andybrine> im not sure joe_dm
[11:04] <Guest42494> lotuspsychje - Haven't looked specifically for the drivers, but I've run update manager, and that should've downloaded any updates shouldn't it?
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> Guest42494: yes, but thats not always best working driver, needs some searching sometimes
 can you try doing ls /etc/init.d/ | grep com
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> andybrine: if you run unity, i would not remove compiz
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> andybrine: can you tell us why exactly you want to disable?
[11:06] <k1l> andybrine: why do you want to disable compiz?
[11:07] <andybrine> I restarted my compute earlier and got a black screen for my desktop
[11:07] <andybrine> i stopped compiz as it was using 300mb of space
[11:07] <k1l> andybrine: compiz is an important basis for the unity desktop. you cant disable that
[11:08] <Gallomimia> i'm having a problem with my fresh install not booting properly. i suspect the video card hasn't got proper drivers
[11:08] <Gallomimia> someone was helping me earlier and we were on "test if the liveCD works" and use nomodeset
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> Gallomimia: you can try the recoverymode from grub also failsafeX or fix broken packages from there
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> andybrine: your computer is heavy enough to run unity?
[11:11] <andybrine> k1l I killed the compiz and its still working perfectly
 looks like its just an init.d script. you should be able to run "update-rc.d compiz remove"
[11:11] <cerry> morning ^^/ talking about grub rescue I've a little problem over here. Friends laptop (UEFI, win8-ubuntu dual boot) was upgrading and now we're dropped in grub rescue shell. seems its looking for …/grub/i386-pc while we have a …/grub/x86_64 dir (I try to follow http://askubuntu.com/q/197833/64513(
[11:11] <k1l> andybrine: because it got restarted automatically
[11:12] <k1l> andybrine: unity is a compiz-plugin. so if no campiz is running you would not have a unity desktop at all
[11:12] <wols_> cerry: boot a 64bit livecd and reinstallg grub?
[11:12] <andybrine> ok I understand that
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> andybrine: you can tweak compiz settings with ccsm
[11:12] <k1l> joe_dm: that is just a bad advise. see what i explained earlier about compiz and unity
[11:12] <andybrine> when I killed the task it started running again
[11:13] <Timvde> Hi. I was here a few days ago, but received no answer :( Since upgrading to 14.04 from 13.10, my network card doesn't want to go in powersave mode anymore (iw dev wlan0 set power_save on -> command failed: Operation not supported (-95)) and consumes over 15W (more than the rest of my laptop together).
[11:13] <andybrine> i just have no idea why it is using soo much memory
[11:13] <andybrine> thanks everyone
[11:13] <joe_dm> k1l: I dunno what it even is, he asked if he could disable it on startup so I'm assuming he knows what he is doing. noted that its a bad idea.
[11:13] <cerry> wols_: sounds legit if not brasero and k3b would throw some wired errors (think last time i burned a cd/dvd was … in 1877?! so in short: burner not working T_T )
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Timvde: maybe a clean install would fix this?
[11:14] <Timvde> lotuspsychje: Maybe, but I have quite a lot of my own software installed, so that would be a hassle :/ How could an upgrade break this?
 I don't think there's a new driver for my wifi card. Also, update manager did a kernel update. I guess I should probably restart the machine before continuing troubleshooting?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> andybrine: you can try lubuntu 14.04 and see how smooth this works for you maybe
[11:14] <joe_dm> cerry: I have had good experiance with super grub boot cd to get back into the OS and then fix grub.
[11:14] <Timvde> It's a Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 btw
[11:15] <andybrine> lotuspsychje it was working perfectly before the update this morning
[11:15] <wols_> cerry: there are usb sticks you can boot from :)
[11:15] <andybrine> ubuntu base was updated and it seemed to have messed a few things up
[11:16] <Guest42494> Timvde - That's the same WiFi card as I have.. cc @lotuspsychje
[11:16] <Timvde> Guest42494: And powersave mode works for you?
[11:16] <craigbass1976> What's the latest trickery for getting mod_rewrite running?  I'm on saucy, and the usual suspects ( running a2enmod rewrite and editing /etc/apache2/sites-available/default) aren't cutting it.  Actually, there's no default, it's now 000-default
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> new atheros update could malfunction for your card
[11:17] <Guest42494> Timvde - Don't know about powersave, but WiFi keeps dropping. Maybe it inadvertently goes into powersave? I'm speculating
[11:17] <Timvde> Guest42494 / lotuspsychje: I found this topic: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/update-to-kernel-3-13-removed-ability-to-set-powersave-on-ar9462-ath9k-4175499101/ - Going to try that now, brb if I'm not back enough before ping timeout :)
[11:18] <craigbass1976> I've also noticed that /etc/init.d/network-manager is gone.  If I was on my home network, then shut the lid and went somewhere else, the laptop keeps trying to connect to my home network.  Restarting network-manager was a quick fix, but now I'm back to rebooting.
[11:19] <cerry> joe_dm, wols_ fair enough. USB stick will be second choice (have to find one ^^;) right now I'm fighting to get back in the UEFI (wont let me in anymore though i was there 2 min ago…) brb
[11:23] <andybrine> ok, I realised its not compiz. Since running updated this morning, its not showing my desktop
[11:24] <mago_> hello. I've changed my users shell to bash (using chsh). However, /bin/sh still points to dash, which causes problems for me. What is the ubuntu way to repoint /bin/sh to bash?
[11:24] <craigbass1976> cerry: I feel your pain.
[11:26] <Timvde> Well, that didn't work out as expected
[11:27] <Timvde> after # modprobe ath9k ps_enable=1, my wifi didn't want to connect at all until after a reboot
[11:27] <andybrine> In order to get my desktop wallpaper back, I have to reset unity
[11:27] <Timvde> Oh, made a typo in that config file, brb
[11:28] <andybrine> everything then returns to normal until I reboot
[11:29] <rigo_> hi. i had an xubuntu installed on my lenovo s205, i had to try out the windows 8.1 i didnt liked it. so i decided to get back to xubuntu. now after installing it the same way as before (from stick, next-next-finish) it does not boot up. as there were nothing on the hdd
[11:29] <rigo_> however there is. so if i start live from stick i can see the sda1-2-3 as efi, filesystem and swap area.
[11:30] <andybrine> I wondering if anyone can help, I have copied the errors that im receiving when I reset unity as Im not sure what I can do to fix it:http://pastebin.com/wHTZcdKB
[11:30] <rigo_> already tried this grub-install --root-directory=/x /dev/sda method. no luck.
[11:31] <rigo_> EM is: "grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.".
[11:31] <arlekin> hi all, anyone here who could give me an opinion about ubuntu phone ?
[11:32] <bazhang> !touch | arlekin
[11:33] <k1l> andybrine: its a video driver issue
[11:33] <arlekin> ubottu: i read about it on ubuntu pgae and was hping to get some opinions, i'll try #ubuntu-touch, thanks :)
[11:33] <k1l> andybrine: what video card is this and what driver (from where is that driver) is installed?
[11:33] <arlekin> oh wel...
[11:33] <andybrine> k1l ahh ok
[11:33] <andybrine> It was working before the update
[11:33] <k1l> andybrine: see : compiz (core) - Info: Unity is not supported by your hardware. Enabling software rendering instead (slow).
[11:34] <k1l> andybrine: see my questions^
[11:34] <andybrine> let me check
[11:36] <andybrine> I have an Intel Sandybridge graphic card
[11:36] <ogghi> hi guys, is there an easy way to add two scripts to the live (xfce) iso and launch them at boot? i would like to have a burn-in test automatically started to do hardware testing...
[11:38] <andybrine> there is nothing wrong with my hardware, I have been using this laptop for a long time now. I have had no problems before
[11:39] <k1l> andybrine: then see the dmesg and syslog to get to know what is going wrong there. does the guest-account work properly?
[11:39] <Guest42494> So, I was on here earlier, and had to log off and reset since update manager requested it. Here's my issue: I'm running 12.04 and my WiFi keeps dropping periodically. I searched around, and the two immediate solutions posted - namely to set Network Manager to ignore IPv6, as well as input the MAC Address of the router in the BSSID - don't work for me. Now hardwired to the router. Details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7528451/ Any ide
[11:40] <andybrine> I need to check my guest account
[11:41] <Guest42494> Security mode on Laptop - WPA and WPA2 Personal, Mode on router: WPA2-PSK
[11:41] <andybrine> it was no doubt a problem with the update
[11:42] <Timvde> Guest42494: I fixed my problem btw :)
[11:42] <Guest42494> Timvde - Cool. What's the version of the driver you're using?
[11:43] <Timvde> Guest42494: Eh, good question. Let's see where I can find that information :x
[11:47] <Timvde> Guest42494: The only version information I can find just lists the kernel version
[11:47] <Timvde> driverversion=3.13.0-24-generic
[11:48] <Guest42494> Timvde : lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net - should give you the "Kernel driver in use"
[11:49] <Timvde> Guest42494: Kernel driver in use: ath9k
[11:49] <Timvde> That's all.
[11:49] <Timvde> Guest42494: But I've been using this laptop since 12.10 without any wifi problems up until now, which I fixed. You might consider an upgrade to 14.04?
[11:50] <andybrine> k1l thanks for your help
[11:51] <andybrine> I reset unity and icons, run another update and everything is working again
[11:51] <Guest42494> Timvde - I guess yeah.. this isn't even my laptop. Windows was bust on this one, so I'd made it usable with a quick LiveUSB installation of Precise (12.04). But the owner of the laptop wants Windows back lol.. Thanks for the suggestion
[11:51] <Guest42494> Timvde - out of interest, what did you need to do to fix it?
[11:52] <Guest42494> (The wifi power save i.e.)
[11:52] <Timvde> Guest42494: Creating /etc/modprobe.d/ath9kps.conf with contents "options ath9k ps_enable=1"
[11:52] <Timvde> Because who would want powersave mode out of the box? Herp derp.
[11:53] <rpshahi> I want dual boot installation Windows & and Ubuntu...
[11:53] <Guest42494> Timvde - Aah.. cool. Let me attempt that before I go in for 14.04/Windows. Care to share the exact commands? I don't want to do it via GUI and screw something up for lack of permissions/permanency.
[11:54] <Timvde> Guest42494: No command, just create the file with your favourite text editor (vim in my case, could be nano or gedit for you)
[11:54] <Timvde> And then reboot
[11:54] <Timvde> Guest42494: But I don't know if it's going to help for you, your problem is completely different.
[11:55] <Guest42494> Timvde - the thing is.. there isn't even an ath9kps.conf file..
[11:55] <Timvde> Guest42494: I created it too
[11:55] <Timvde> But it works :)
[11:55] <Guest42494> Timvde - Yeah, so I think simply the presence might help. Anyway, giving it a shot now
[11:56] <abhishek> hello
[11:58] <cerry_> craigbass1976 thank you <
[11:58] <cerry_> <3
[11:59] <Sachiru> What's the minimum RAM requirement for Ubuntu server?
[12:00] <cerry_> so my problem shifted (not sure if anyone can help, kinda OT) but I changed booting sequence in UEFI to get dropped in grub rescue shell (before it was botting in win8) however now I can't access uefi anymore just getting dropped in grub shell. it's a lenova ideapad and I press esc, delete, f1, f2… -sights-
[12:00] <DJones> !requirements | Sachiru This link should give you all the details, basically, 192Mb for server releases,
[12:01] <Sachiru> Hmm
[12:02] <Sachiru> I was thinking of using Ubuntu+KVM to virtualize other operating systems
[12:02] <Sachiru> A barebones install of Ubuntu + relevant drivers + KVM/VirtualBox should reasonably fit onto a 8GB USB Drive, right?
[12:02] <joe_dm> Sachiru: Depends what you plan on using it for and what hardware you have. don't think there is a real "minimum"
[12:03] <Sachiru> Hmm.
[12:03] <Sachiru> How much space does a base server install consume?
[12:03] <joe_dm> Sachiru: You should be able to fit the hypervisor on 8GB
[12:03] <Sachiru> Cool
[12:03] <joe_dm> Sachiru: Assuming you are going headless server.
[12:04] <Sachiru> Yep, headless
[12:04] <Sachiru> Would it be possible to put two USB drives into RAID (2-way mirror) for more reliability, then move swap to spinning disks later?
[12:04] <joe_dm> Sarchiru: Biggest thing is to make sure you CPU supports virtulization.
[12:05] <Sachiru> HDD serving as both VM storage and swap
[12:05] <Sachiru> And yes, CPU supports virtualization.
[12:05] <majod> whats the difference between killing, ending and stopping a process?
[12:06] <joe_dm> Sachiru: you could use UFS to mirror two USB drives during the OS install
[12:06] <joe_dm> majod: Killing is brutal while stopping is graceful
[12:06] <Sachiru> UFS?
[12:06] <majod> joe_dm: and ending?
[12:07] <joe_dm> Sachiru: In short, Yes you can, You configure this on the OS level during the install. not in Bios or anything like a hardware raid
[12:07] <Somethings_broke> What does this mean? # Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.110'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[12:07] <Sachiru> Ok, cool
[12:07] <joe_dm> mojod: not sure about ending. but stopping usually runs a script that shuts it down and killing just basically rips it out
[12:10] <rpshahi> I want dual boot installation Windows & and Ubuntu..
[12:10] <joe_dm> majod: Don't quote me but I assume ending a process is just a generic way or saying that its stopped whether it be graceful or not.
[12:10] <Somethings_broke> I need help. What does this mean and whats the code to fix it? # ...Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine"...
[12:11] <joe_dm> rpshahi: was there a question in regards to hybrid OS ?
[12:11] <rigo_> well thank you. again.
[12:11] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke: What was you doing when you get the error?
[12:12] <rpshahi> Actually i installed Windows and ubuntu both but ubuntu is not listed in windows bootloader..
[12:12] <Somethings_broke> @rpshahi - If you want Linux software Raid and Windows on the same drives you have to Bios Raid and install windows, Then install Ubuntu.
[12:13] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm I was trying to compile VMware modules.
[12:13] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm the first run crap
[12:13] <mexi_d3> rpshahi, This is 'working as intended' for windows bootloader. Recommended method is install Ubuntu second, not first.
[12:13] <rpshahi> I installed ubuntu second..
[12:14] <mexi_d3> rpshahi, Ubuntu's boot loader should detect both OS and allow choice. Oh I just got here and see you mentioned softraid.
[12:15] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke are you missing a dependancy maybe? Was there errors further up?
[12:15] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm Pastebin, hold on
[12:16] <joe_dm> rpshahi: Where is grub installed? Is it possible that you need to boot from a different device, Grub should override windows boot loader if you installed it second.
[12:16] <raggg> are the files in /usr/share/upstart/sessions used or is it only the ones in /etc/init?
[12:16] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm http://pastebin.com/YWTkMqqN\
[12:16] <N3sh108> test
[12:16] <N3sh108> Cool!
[12:17] <raggg> or rather is upstart meant to be running the services in /usr/share/upstart/session because atm it isnt :/
[12:17] <Gallomimia> hi N3sh108 welcome to #ubuntu
[12:17] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm not much more than that.
[12:18] <N3sh108> Hey guys, I got a question: how do I run a program once for each file matching the regex? Let's say I want to run the program 'convert' on all image_*.jpg; is there something like "convert image_*.jpg output_*.pdf" ? I want each file to be output with what was matched with *
[12:18] <N3sh108> Hey Gallomimia :)
[12:18] <Gallomimia> nevyn: still haven't gotten that system to run with raid5 crypt. got the install done. boots to a blackscreen for some reason..
[12:19] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke try installing this: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine
[12:19] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke: Also seeing a thread which suggest it may need 32 bit: apt-get install --reinstall gtk2-engines-murrine:i386
[12:20] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm # gtk2-engines-murrine is already the newest version.
[12:20] <Somethings_broke> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 89 not upgraded.
[12:20] <joe_dm> raggg:if your talking about startup scripts it should be running from /etc/ini.t but you cant just add stuff in there.
[12:21] <joe_dm> raggg: are you trying to add a new script?
[12:21] <raggg> joe_dm: no, i have an indicator thats refusing to start in gnome fallback with i3wm, its startup script is in /usr/share/upstart/sessions
[12:22] <raggg> i can load the executable normally and it runs, but it wont load on login, and in this session initctl isnt recognising anything in that dir as a job
[12:22] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm # Already did that, but did it again, its working now. Maybe its because im on generic kernel now.
[12:22] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm # in contrast, I was on LowLatency
[12:22] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke you can try this too but not sure if its what you want: sudo echo 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/modules/' >> /etc/bash.bashrc
[12:22] <N3sh108> do I really need grep for such a simple pattern matching?
[12:23] <joe_dm> raggg: are you sure there isn't an init.d script which references /usr/share/upstart/sessions
[12:23] <NeoID> anyone familiar with mdadm? I've set a disk as failed, then removed it before removing it physically from the server. After inserting a new one with the same partition layout it began syncing... once it was done the disk showed up as a spare, but by then two other drives crashed... (raid 6). No I do not have enough drives to start the raid.. any hope that data is on the spare drive? is there a way to add it?
[12:23] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke: Glad you got it working :) thats the main thing
[12:23] <raggg> joe_dm: no i
[12:23] <raggg> will check that out..
[12:24] <raggg> but joe_dm, that wouldnt make sense, init.d are boot time services i though
[12:24] <arcsky> if i add an interface in /etc/network/interfaces doesnt it get an ip applied when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[12:25] <joe_dm> NeoID: If you lost more than two drives in a RAID6 then it's hopeless without expensive data recovery.
[12:25] <joe_dm> NeoID: Thats why people say "RAID is not backup" any chance the drives are not failed?
[12:25] <legion> Good morning all
[12:26] <NeoID> joe_dm, I'm not sure, it was only one drive that failed and I wanted to switch with a new one... so after adding a new one and it's stated to be a "spare", there's no data on it yet?
[12:26] <joe_dm> arcsky: If you setup the interfaces file correctly then yes, it should get applied on service networking restart
[12:27] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm # Have you solved any WiFi randomly falling asleep problems lately?
[12:27] <joe_dm> NeoID: Is it hardware RAID or software RAID, If it's hardware RAID I'd suggest booting into the RAID controller setup bios thing. and looking in there
[12:27] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke: I mostly only use headless servers and since servers are basically all cable LAN I don't do much WiFi
[12:28] <NeoID> joe_dm, it's setup as a hba, the drives are listed there as far as I can tell
[12:28] <thomson1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xnpmHA_9p8
[12:29] <joe_dm> NeoID: What type of controller, They all have vastly different interfaces so its hard to tell you what to look for.
[12:29] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm # if the problem with my wifi were a power saving... //Heavy sarcasm// "Feature"   ---> How would I disable it?
[12:29] <arcsky> joe_dm: check pls here http://pastebin.com/nqBH4i5M
[12:29] <NeoID> joe_dm, rocketraid 2720sgl
[12:30] <lorenz_> Does anybody know how to debug udev? It doesn't start for some reason.
[12:31] <joe_dm> NeoID: I've never used rocket raid sorry, There is usually somewhere you can check physical disk health, array status such as rebuilding, etc maybe just have a look around and see what you can find.
[12:31] <NeoID> ok :(
[12:31] <NeoID> it's so strange that two drives failes out of the blue
[12:31] <Somethings_broke> Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx # Keeps Disconnecting... randomly. Like its falling asleep, I have to reconnect all the time.
[12:32] <Somethings_broke> Any ideas?
[12:32] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke: Not sure, Maybe check this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2004690
[12:32] <Ozux> Any one know how to change ethernet device name in 14.04 it's p4p1 instead of eth0 which ruins all firewall and interfaces configs!
[12:33] <joe_dm> NeoID: I recently had 1 drive fail, shortly after getting a new drive in another 2 failed, I just barely didn't lose everything. The issue is when one goes bad the others work overtime which can increase failure chance if they are already on the way out.
[12:33] <NeoID> yeah, I see the problem :/
[12:33] <Gallomimia> yeah, rebuilding a raid off a failing drive, worst thing for it
[12:33] <joe_dm> NeoID: especially when you do put in a new drive and they all have to work to rebuild the new drive. Multi drive failures happen way too often.
[12:34] <Gallomimia> especially when its still in the conditions that made the old one fail. ie heat, vibration
[12:34] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke: Another one, looks different to your issue but worth a shot: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127243/cant-stay-connected-to-wi-fi
[12:35] <Kry> Hi
[12:36] <Kry> On a Virtualbox, I can't manage to switch the screen resolution to fit the screen
[12:36] <Somethings_broke> joe_dm # You work on servers? How can i reboot without rebooting?
[12:36] <Gallomimia> :)
[12:36] <Kry> (Also, sometimes it refuses let me write on the keyboard)
[12:38] <gazzwi86> can anyone recommend a mail server with a nice web interface I can create new accounts from?
[12:39] <gazzwi86> something with some spam protection etc
[12:39] <cerry> εὕρηκα! I solved the UEFI/win8/grub rescue problem
[12:40] <cerry> In the end it was a problem with the Bios settings, Boot mode: legacy support, boot priority: uefi first is the right setup to have a grub menu when booting \^^/ no live cd needed ^^;
[12:41] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke: If you think of rebooting being that you restart all the services all at once, then yes, you can restart each service one at a time.
[12:41] <joe_dm> Somethings_broke: As for clearing RAM you will need to reboot however most the time you just need to restart a few services depending on what your doing.
[12:42] <raggg> joe_dm: it looks to me like upstart being used for stuff in /usr/share... yet, most of those things seems to have xdg autostart files too which is how they get started. can anyone confirm my assumption?
[12:43] <raggg> *isnt being used
[12:44] <joe_dm> raggg: is there anything in /etc/rc.local the only places upstart should run from are /etc/rc.local /etc/init.d and maybe cronjob. Anything else will likely be started from within one of these.
[12:44] <bsdbandit> good morning im trying to convert my startup script over to upstart not sure is this is right just wanted to see if someone can check out this script that i wrote and give me some poiters http://pastebin.com/T9Lv0C9Y
[12:45] <joe_dm> cerry: glad to hear you got it up and running :)
[12:45] <raggg> joe_dm: if upstart is controlling them, wouldnt 'sudo initctl list' show the jobs atleast?
[12:45] <joe_dm> raggg: never used that sorry.
[12:48] <raggg> joe_dm: np, thanks for help
[12:48] <raggg> in any case ive fixed my indicator problem and found a bug, how do I make someone aware of it?
[12:49] <joe_dm> raggg: Should be a bug report section in the forums
[12:50] <Pici> !bugs
[12:52] <Kry> On a Virtualbox, I can't manage to switch the screen resolution to fit the screen
[12:52] <Kry> Can anyone help me?
[12:52] <Kry> I've already installed guest additions, but it doesn't do anything useful
[12:54] <joe_dm> Key: Are you setting the resolution insite the virtual machine?
[13:03] <geri> hi, i look for an mathgl package for ubuntu...
[13:04] <Pici> geri: 'mathgl' is in the repositories.
[13:05] <geri> is it mathgl2??
[13:05] <Pici> !info mathgl
[13:06] <Pici> Looks like version 2 to me.
[13:06] <geri> does it install header files and libs too?
[13:10] <geri> re
[13:11] <Pici> geri: likely.  See   apt-cache search mathgl  for a bunch of related packages.
[13:16] <geri> cant see mathgl2
[13:18] <geri> they dont list the version
[13:19] <Pici> geri: if you use apt-cache show mathgl   (or any other package name, it will tell you more details including the version)
[13:22] <ghaering> I need to have supervisord started after the cloud-init scripts (Ubuntu 12.04). supervisor is a "classic" (non-upstart) startup job. Anybody have an idea on how to force this order?
[13:23] <joe_dm> ghaering: yes, you can set the order using the update-rc.d
[13:24] <joe_dm> ghaering: as a general rule lower numbers start first. so you can first remove the cloud-init script with update-rc.d -f opensips remove
[13:24] <joe_dm> ghaering: then add it back with a lower number the supercisord such as update-rc.d opensips defaults 15
[13:25] <joe_dm> ghaering: or you could do the same with supercisord and add it back with a higher number, depending on your other scripts order, etc.
[13:26] <lmat> How do I make Unity let my mouse go from one screen to the other without hesitation ?
[13:27] <lmat> I think I normally move the mouse slowly enough that it always "catches", so I then sort of ram through and have to correct... really time-consuming.
[13:27] <ghaering> joe_dm: opensips is what? :)
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> lmat  try !ccsm or unity-tweak
[13:27] <lmat> MonkeyDust: OKay, I took a look at the Unity plugin in ccsm, I'll have a look at unity-tweak. Thanks
[13:27] <ghaering> My problem is that I do not know how the old-style stuff is started from within upstart.
[13:28] <joe_dm> ghaering: opensips is unrelated? Looks like a VOIP SIP thing
[13:28] <ghaering> AFAIK update-rc.d only affects rc-stlye scripts
[13:29] <ghaering> joe_dm: so I must make sure the rc stuff is started after a specific (or all) upstart jobs
[13:29] <freijon> hey guys. I once had that game but I can't remember its name. it was a two player game and you are a capital ship that could spawn different ships. bombers, fighters. the goal was to destroy the other capital ship. can anyone remember the name of that game?
[13:29] <lmat> I'm trying to install ffmpeg (to work with m4a), but there's no installation candidate. I see "As of Natty, Ubuntu has switched ... to the libav..." and libav doesn't have a candidate either.
[13:29] <lmat> What iz da codez ? ^_^
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> lmat  try avconv
[13:30] <fierman> so.. regarding the ubuntu-one serbice..
[13:30] <ghaering> joe_dm: apparently upstart starts things in parallel, so cloud-init and the rc scripts run in parallel
[13:30] <fierman> 1 june is deadline for sure?
[13:30] <lmat> MonkeyDust: that's right, thanks :D
[13:30] <lmat> oh... Unable to locate package avconv :'(
[13:30] <lmat> MonkeyDust: I remember using that program and it went really well...
[13:30] <lmat> oh!  libav-tools!
[13:31] <joe_dm> ghaering: not sure, maybe check this http://cuppster.com/2011/05/12/diy-node-js-server-on-amazon-ec2/
[13:32] <ghaering> joe_dm: thanks!
[13:34] <goeo_> hey
[13:34] <goeo_> so
[13:34] <goeo_> my laptop's battery once died
[13:34] <geri> goeo_, so what? ;)
[13:34] <goeo_> and i couldn't ever get back to my os
[13:35] <goeo_> i'm running from a live usb now
[13:35] <goeo_> my question is
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> goeo_  don't hit enter too often
[13:35] <goeo_> do i have to backup everything and then format a disk?
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> goeo_  backup is *always* a good idea
[13:36] <k1l> goeo_: what dies it say when you boot?
[13:36] <k1l> goeo_: are you sure the hdd is fine?
[13:37] <goeo_> my disks mount fine here from the live usb
[13:37] <goeo_> i guess somehow it killed my bootloader
[13:37] <k1l> then reinstall grub
[13:38] <goeo_> how do i do that?
[13:38] <k1l> but that could not be caused by a simple power down
[13:38] <goeo_> that's what i thought
[13:38] <freijon> I found the game. Its called "Pax Britannica"
[13:38] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:40] <STHGOM> hello, are you still talking?
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> STHGOM  we see you
[13:40] <STHGOM> ?
[13:41] <STHGOM> im sry what does that mean?
[13:41] <dream_code_> I think this is what he means https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71gopP1SsY&feature=kp
[13:42] <STHGOM> no im really confused
[13:42] <STHGOM> anyway, i have a problem booting with 14.04
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> dream_code_  what who means?
[13:42] <Pici> STHGOM: What sort of problem?
[13:43] <bala_> test
[13:43] <STHGOM> kernel panic
[13:43] <STHGOM> trouble mounting i think
[13:44] <bala_> what type of trouble ..
[13:44] <goeo_> says GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.
[13:44] <k1l> STHGOM: could you please make a question with complete info in it? it is very hard to help you
[13:44] <goeo_> going that now
[13:44] <goeo_> doing*
[13:45] <STHGOM> before i updated it took 5 mintes to mount HD i think, went to initframs and afer awhile i just types exit
[13:45] <STHGOM> what do you need to know?
[13:45] <bala_> hai i am new ubuntu can explain abt xchat
[13:46] <STHGOM> bala_ xchat is irc client: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[13:48] <bala_> oh_ i see thanks _ sthgom
[13:49] <STHGOM> im kinda noobish about Lubuntu, what do you need to know?
[13:51] <bala_> YES
[13:51] <STHGOM> yes?
[13:51] <bala_> KINDA
[13:51] <bala_> TELL ABT LUBUNTU
[13:52] <k1l> !lubuntu | bala_
[13:52] <goeo_> so this is pretty weird
[13:52] <STHGOM> so i should go to #lubuntu?
[13:53] <goeo_> i try to make the partition that Boot-Repair asked for
[13:53] <k1l> STHGOM: you coulc ask here too
[13:53] <goeo_> but the file system turnes into fat32
[13:53] <goeo_> and Boot-Repair doesn't see it
[13:53] <bala_> wheather is possible to install vmware in ubuntu _kinda
[13:54] <k1l> STHGOM: but make clear what your issue and question is. and give error messages in a pastebin
[13:55] <k1l> !in | bala_ maybe that is easier for you to ask in your language
[13:55] <goeo_> k1l: any idea?
[13:55] <bala_> do u answer r not
[13:55] <STHGOM> i cant remember complete error
[13:56] <STHGOM> i will right it down brb
[14:03] <knob> Guys, n00b question.   I installed ubuntu Server.    Then I installed apache2.       I have the configuration file, one called   000-default       , yet I don't have the file called     default
[14:03] <knob> Is it the same thing?
[14:04] <somsip> knob: what version of apache? 2.4 now uses 000-default.conf rather than the old "default"
[14:04] <knob> somsip, ahh...
[14:04] <knob> I belive version 2.4, as I installed     apt-get install apache2
[14:05] <somsip> knob: ...old "default" under 2.2 Some slight changes to how the conf files are defined too, but easy enough to migrate. Lots of guides out there
[14:05] <STHGOM> what pastebin should i use?
[14:05] <somsip> !paste | STHGOM
[14:06] <knob> somsip, ok... checking that out now
[14:06] <knob> Thanks!
[14:06] <somsip> knob: np
[14:08] <goeo_> this doesn't work
[14:09] <STHGOM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7529630/
[14:10] <STHGOM> the rest is jibberish to me
[14:10] <helmut_> hi
[14:10] <STHGOM> hi
[14:12] <somsip> STHGOM: I don;t have an answer for you, but a search on that error message "not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block-(o,o)" gives some results for you to look at while waiting for someone who might be able to help
[14:14] <raggg> is unity panel service started by unity settings daemon?
[14:15] <raggg> or is it an xdg autostart file somewhere?
[14:21] <Pici> p/70
[14:26] <KGM70> hello
[14:26] <MissionControl> hi
[14:30] <nemo__> exit
[14:30] <nemo__> part
[14:35] <goeo_> paste.ubuntu.com/7529741
[14:35] <goeo_>  I ran Boot-Repair
[14:36] <goeo_> it still doesn't boot
[14:36] <goeo_> and that paste is it's output
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> goeo_  try to keep your comments in one line
[14:37] <goeo_> ok, sorry.
[14:44] <jayaura> My trusty is taking too much time to boot up. How do I know who is culprit? I mean, is there anything like systemd-analyze or something ?
[14:47] <asdf_> v identify shad0w
[14:47] <asdf_> woops
[14:48] <jayaura> asdf_, nobody saw it :P
[14:48] <asdf_> i'm just gonna step out of here before the embarrassment kicks in harder
[14:48] <jayaura> asdf_, you better change the password first :P
[14:48] <asdf_> yeah, crossed my mind
[14:49] <asdf_>  /msg nickserv help panic
[14:49] <asdf_> :)
[14:49] <johndru> hi
[14:49] <johndru> How can I turn on the fan in Ubuntu?
[14:50] <johndru> is there any fancontrol utilities?
[14:50] <jayaura> johndru, isnt it automatic ?
[14:50] <johndru> jayaura: yes but I need to turn it on now
[14:50] <genii> !info fancontrol
[14:50] <johndru> I downloaded this, genii
[14:50] <johndru> Loading configuration from /etc/fancontrol ...
[14:50] <johndru> Error: Can't read configuration file
[14:51] <belar0> Is there a way I can know if a user is visiting a directory owned by me?
[14:51] <johndru> It doesn't work, what do I do?
[14:51] <goeo_> anyone?
[14:51] <genii> johndru: Perhaps examine the configuration file.
[14:51] <jayaura> johndru, have you first setup lm-sensors ? sort of a first run for that package has to be done
[14:51] <genii> ( or create one if it is nonexistent)
[14:52] <johndru> genii: lemme create it
[14:52] <citrix> kaha hai aap
[14:52] <johndru> it says "Some mandatory settings missing, please check your config file!"
[14:52] <astropirate> hi guys
[14:53] <genii> Odd, lmsensors is not a depend of fancontrol
[14:53] <astropirate> i screwed up and created a user with useradd instead of adduser. I am trying to delete the user now, but am unable to do so.  http://pastie.org/pastes/9223352/text?key=m5e8oc8jihtyxkkohkfka
[14:54] <genii> astropirate: Typo there
[14:54] <jayaura> johndru, purge lmsensors and try reinstalling
[14:54] <astropirate> genii, haha i see it. thanks friend
[14:54] <johndru> jayaura: okay
[14:55] <noko> How to prevent resolvconf to putting dnsmasq "nameserver 127.0.0.1" into /etc/resolv.conf?
[14:56] <noko> I want to use resolvers from DHCP
[14:56] <johndru> jayaura: still doesn't work
[14:56] <TJ-> noko: dnsmasq gets the resolvers, usually
[14:57] <astropirate> I am trying to create a new user and add it to the sudoers group. Google and ubuntu QA site tells me this is what i need to do:  adduser <username> sudo
[14:57] <astropirate> however, it tells me the user does not exist
[14:57] <jayaura> johndru, that doenst help. Tell what error you are getting
[14:57] <astropirate> :|   while i am trying to create it
[14:57] <jayaura> johndru, did you run lmsensors
[14:57] <johndru> lm-sensors: command not found
[14:57] <llutz> astropirate: sudo adduser username                  to create the user, then "sudo adduser username sudo"
[14:57] <johndru> lmsensors: command not found
[14:57] <jayaura> johndru, which simple means you didnt install lmsensors yet
[14:58] <astropirate> llutz, thank you!
[14:58] <jayaura> johndru, install it, and run it. It will ask to do a first time config I guess. Run that
[14:58] <johndru> I did install it, jayaura.
[14:58] <TJ-> johndru: "sudo sensors-detect"
[14:59] <jayaura> TJ-, yes, I missed the name :)
[14:59] <johndru> Driver `k10temp' (autoloaded):
[14:59] <johndru>   * Chip `AMD Family 12h and 14h thermal sensors' (confidence: 9)
[14:59] <TerranceWarrior> What's a good scanner for linux?
[14:59] <johndru> It only found that.
[14:59] <johndru> No modules to load, skipping modules configuration.
[15:00] <johndru> TJ-?
[15:01] <d0uglas> hi #ubuntu.. were I to use google's pagespeed service (the service where they sort of act as a reverse proxy, not mod_pagespeed on my own server) on my SSL site over which sensitive data passes, does Google get a plain view of visitor passwords and such, or as long as my origin server to Google is sending over SSL, they can't? And if they can't, are they still able to do their pagespeed magic to data they see as encrypted, or is that no longer possible? than
[15:01] <d0uglas> ks
[15:01] <TJ-> johndru: When you install "fancontrol" it would have shown (at a command line) " * Not starting fancontrol; run pwmconfig first"
[15:01] <johndru> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[15:03] <johndru> well, anybody?
[15:04] <TJ-> Well!
[15:05] <genii> d0uglas: That might be a better question for the #google channel
[15:05] <d0uglas> genii: okay i'll try there.. thanks
[15:08] <goeo_> a question,
[15:14] <goeo_> I selected encrypt my home directory while installing Ubuntu. Now I fail to boot from that installation and I'm trying to backup my files and I can't, anyway, my question is, if I succeed
[15:15] <goeo_> on booting that installation, will it be decrypted?
[15:16] <TJ-> goeo_: The user's password is used to generate an encryption wrapper around a key that decrypts the encrytpfs home, so as long as the user can log-in they'll have access to their files
[15:19] <fellayaboy> i would go to the openvpn channel but no one is answer. would anybody here know what are the proper iptables settings to allow traffic through openvpn.  i use to use these settings in previous ubuntu verisions but they dont seem to work with ubuntu 14.04.  i changed eth0 to p5pl & did another command to allow ipforward. http://pastie.org/9223395
[15:21] <goeo_> TJ-: can I simulate that here from the live USB
[15:21] <Tocho> I am new to Ubuntu and Linux. Where can I find video tutorials?
[15:21] <goeo_> I still know the password
[15:22] <TinCan_Assassin> So after updating with update manager recently, my computer is getting really bogged down, especially in Firefox. It did not do this before the most recent update push. Anything I can do to fix it?
[15:23] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: Can you look at top and confirm firefox is consuming too many resources?  Maybe it's something else.
[15:23] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: If it is firefox, we can use about:memory to dig into it.
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> TinCan_Assassin: htop is also nice
[15:23] <TJ-> goeo_: see "man ecryptfs-mount-private"  ... you can manually mount an encrypted FS
[15:23] <deadmund> Tocho: There is no official video tutorial for Ubuntu.  If you search youtube you'll find a lot!
[15:24] <deadmund> :(
[15:28] <TinCan_Assassin> deadmund: It has to be something else. it is doing it now with FF closed and in XChat, now. The machine just freezes up, to the point where it crashes.
[15:28] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: Do you know how to open top?  Look at top and see what the top 1 or 2 processes are.  Are they consuming large amounts of CPU or RAM?
[15:29] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: Also, sounds like maybe your harddrive / partition are full.
[15:29] <TinCan_Assassin> I don't know how to open top.
[15:30] <TinCan_Assassin> It's not in the dash
[15:30] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: Do you know how to open a terminal?  Open a terminal and type "top" without quotes and press enter.  Press q to quit once it's running.
[15:30] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: It's a terminal program (not a GUI application), so it won't show up in the dashboard.
[15:30] <TinCan_Assassin> Ok, wait one
[15:30] <deadmund> sure
[15:32] <TinCan_Assassin> Ok, got it open, what am I looking for?
[15:32] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: What is the process listed at the top of the list.  How much CPU is it using, how much ram is it using?
[15:33] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: Also, look at the second process, what is it and how much CPU / RAM ?
[15:33] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: Is it like 1% or like 103%?
[15:33] <TinCan_Assassin> It goes back and forth between compiz and Xorg
[15:34] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: What are the CPU and Memory values of both?
[15:35] <deadmund> Xorg is always usually 1 - 10% because graphics are CPU intensive.
[15:38] <mistawright> I was trying to build a debian file that included a kernel for my beaglebone black and got this error when running the sript:
[15:38] <mistawright> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
[15:39] <mistawright> can anyone help me figure this out?
[15:39] <freijon> mistawright: sounds like an architecture mismatch
[15:40] <TinCan_Assassin> The numbers are jumping too much to pin downb
[15:40] <mistawright> freijon, the script to build the kernel works on my computer fine. It is indeed building for a arm device
[15:40] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: hit q and just read the last snapshot
[15:40] <TinCan_Assassin> And it's crashing now.
[15:41] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: haha, sounds fun.  Patience :)
[15:43] <TinCan_Assassin> Ok, compiz is using 4.0 CPU and 3.1 Mem and Xorg is using 3.3 cpu and 0.9 mem
[15:44] <deadmund> TinCan_Assassin: Those are low levels.  They are not causing a problem.  Is the partition / harddrive full ?  If there is no room to write like logs and stuff, the computer will not react well. Can you run df -h and see if any partitions are full? 100%) ?
[15:46] <brenux> What is kernel panic ? I got this bug right now, and i dont know why..
[15:47] <deadmund> brenux: Kernel panic can mean a lot of things but it basically means the kernel crashed (or could not continue running). The linux kernel is really well written so a kernel panic usually means something is wrong with some hardware.
[15:47] <deadmund> brenux: How frequently do you experience kernel panics?
[15:48] <brenux> Is the first time.
[15:48] <deadmund> brenux: It might just be a fluke (gamma ray from the sun!)
[15:50] <brenux> wtf.. well.. lets wait and see if it happen again..
[15:51] <deadmund> brenux: If it's rare (like less than once a month) ignore it.  If it's frequent, then start checking hardware.
[15:52] <brenux> deadmund, this error already happen to you?
[15:52] <bsdbandit> is there a way to roll back after patching ubuntu linux
[15:52] <deadmund> brenux: I've see kernel panics.  They're kind of generic.  One time I had to remove an old modem pci card or I would get a kernel panic every hour
[15:53] <deadmund> brenux: I've also seen the happen like 1 / year or something and I basically just ignore them then.
[15:53] <deadmund> To be honest, even once a year is kind of frequent.
[15:53] <brenux> deadmund, thx for the tip!
[15:54] <deadmund> brenux: sure
[15:56] <JerryP> Anyone recommend a better program than banshee for ipod management?
[15:57] <JerryP> I have been trying it and it doesn't seem to work
[15:58] <k1l> JerryP: itunes with wine seems to be an option
[15:59] <lualv> Hi all
[15:59] <k1l> JerryP: but apple doesnt want other programs to work with ipods/iphones so there is not that much hope of it.
[15:59] <lualv> is this channel destinated to ask for help?
[15:59] <TheHodge> hey folks, I'm trying to enable a passwordless sudo user to restart a service but nomatter what command I give them access to /usr/bin/service,/usr/sbin/service,/etc/init.d/*,/sbin/service*,/etc/init, it still asks for the password.. am I looking in the wrong directories
[15:59] <TheHodge> I don't want to have a fully open passwd less user
[16:01] <llutz> TheHodge: where in the sudoers files did you add your line? order of entries matters
[16:01] <TheHodge> I've added a group and my user is part of that group
[16:02] <TheHodge> I'll be honest at the moment the urls are in a random order of testing
[16:02] <TheHodge> folder names*
[16:02] <TheHodge> not urls
[16:03] <llutz> TheHodge:  man sudoers|less -p "multiple matches"
[16:03] <zzxc> Hey is there a way I can pipe the results of a query to both terminal and to a file?
[16:03] <llutz> zzxc: use tee
[16:04] <TheHodge> llutz: indeed and I've got it working on normal commands just fine, however I'm having trouble with access to a service
[16:04] <zzxc> llutz: Yeah I was trying that earlier without much luck I may have been using the incorrect syntax though. I'll check the man files again
[16:04] <lualv> I'm trying to install kernel developement headers, to compile an aplication that performs in-kernel forwarding. I have instaled linux-kernel-headers and kernel-package, using apt-get install, but I have a problem because I need the kernel headers to be in a specific path, in order to make the compilation work, and i don't know where are the files installed to make a link or a copy. Can anybody provide help with that?  regards!
[16:06] <lualv> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:06] <llutz> zzxc:simple  example:  lspci | grep -i vga | tee /tmp/vga.txt ; cat /tmp/vga.txt
[16:08] <bobo69> lualv: This is a bit out of my depth, but  you can run dpkg -L to see a list of files installed by a package
[16:08] <zzxc> llutz TheHodge, Acutally I already got it to work. Issue was my test statement (ping) was just taking forever to resolve the IP.
[16:09] <lualv> thanks bobo69, I'm going to check
[16:09] <zzxc> llutz: ? why is the cat at the end of the statement, just to display the output again?
[16:09] <bobo69> lualv: for my machine it looks like linux-libc-dev was installed instead of linux-kernel-headers. When I asked dpkg to list me files for that package it listed a bunch of headers in /usr/include/linux
[16:10] <TJ-> lualv: "/usr/src/"
[16:11] <bobo69> lualv: But I'd try TJ's suggestion first as I've never had much luck mucking about iwth kernel headers
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> zzxc  yes, cat simply displays output
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> zzxc  like:    cat /etc/issue
[16:12] <zzxc> MonkeyDust: Yeah I know. I was just wondering why the cat was tacted onto the end of the command.
[16:12] <TJ-> lualv: The shell-script way to determine the current headers is "/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[16:13] <lualv> TJ-:  The problem is that I can't find a folder wihin /usr/src with the name of the version that I'm running, that I got with uname -r
[16:13] <lualv> TJ-:  /sr/src was my first option
[16:13] <zid> anyone experienced with ubuntu 14 LTS  dual boot on UEFI systems  W8.1  with multiple primary partitions exceeding 4 primary partitions?
[16:13] <zid> installing procedures. Any and all help / feedback much appreciated
[16:14] <TJ-> lualv: "apt-get install linux-headers"
[16:14] <ubuntu> Hello
[16:14] <ubuntu> Hola
[16:14] <ubuntu> Hiya
[16:14] <zid> already read a dozen different explanations online with different warnings.
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu  it works, we see you
[16:14] <cfhowlett> ubuntu ask you ubuntu questions.
[16:14] <zid> just curious
[16:15] <Guest59664> ok
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | zid start here
[16:15] <TJ-> zid: If you're using UEFI then the disk is GPT layout, which allows up to 128 partitions
[16:15] <zid> Thanks a bunch!
[16:15] <A_Man_Apart> a Question
[16:15] <lualv> TJ-: I used atp-get install linux-kernel-headers and apt-get install kernel-package. Is it the same?
[16:16] <zid> cool. I read many people warning that even the GRUB 2 version would result in bootchain errors still and lots of different other warnings about boot issues
[16:17] <zid> But I thought you had to install 14.0 LTS  with UEFI and safe boot disabled - does that affect the number of primary partitions allowed?
[16:17] <OerHeks> zid, windows 8 should use gpt to avoid this old issue
[16:18] <A_Man_Apart> how a cant get to the puppy room chat?
[16:18] <A_Man_Apart> sorry
[16:18] <A_Man_Apart> how i can
[16:18] <OerHeks> !alis
[16:18] <zid> The issues I read seemed to be from ubuntu dual boot installations from autumn to december 2013 last year, but I will check up on it. Thanks.
[16:18] <TJ-> lualv: No, it's not. "kernel-headers" is a virtual package which is "Provides:" by linux-libc-dev
[16:19] <OerHeks> zid the only solution is to remove one prim part, and make that space extended
[16:19] <lualv> TJ-: OK, let me check, thanks
[16:19] <BACKBOX> HELLO EVERYONE
[16:19] <zid> thanks again OerHeks
[16:20] <Korkel> What is the Dutch channel of Ubuntu?
[16:20] <A_Man_Apart> Hello
[16:20] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-nl-offtopic
[16:20] <OerHeks> err #ubuntu-nl
[16:21] <Korkel> Thank you OerHeks !
[16:22] <BACKBOX> plz help
[16:22] <Korkel> Does someone know if it possibole to show the close/minisize buttons on the right, and not the left?
[16:23] <Korkel> BACKBOX, what is the problem?
[16:23] <BACKBOX> how do i configure my firefox to work with the tor and vidalia?
[16:24] <Korkel> Not, you can download the TOR browser bundle.
[16:24] <OerHeks> !tor
[16:25] <Korkel> BACKBOX, https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[16:25] <BACKBOX> tor and vidalia seem to be working just fine.i have downloaded the browser bundle but my terminal says it cant locate the gar.z file
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> BACKBOX: where did you download it to?
[16:25] <BACKBOX> the home folder under downloads
[16:26] <_1_David> :D
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> BACKBOX: then run:   cd ~/Downloads    and try again
[16:26] <Nyons> If i use a PCIe 1x to 16x extender, would this affect my GPU performance?
[16:26] <TheHodge> exit
[16:26] <TheHodge> ha
[16:27] <k1l> Nyons: ##hardware could help you more on that topic
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Nyons: the interface will run at the lowest speed device
[16:27] <Nyons> thank you
[16:27] <BACKBOX> plz be on hold as i try it
[16:27] <lualv> TJ-:  I have a message saying that I have to chose a specific file, and I don't Know  wich one is correct. I'm running 1204LTS  2.6.32.58.generic, and I can't find one fo this version.
[16:27] <Macer> does anybody here use openvpn? i can connect, ping local addresses 192.1.x but can't ping anything on the internet from the client
[16:27] <Macer> :/
[16:27] <Nyons> so it will be 1x?
[16:28] <Macer> server-bridge 192.168.1.17 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.50 192.168.1.99 <- that's what i'm using .. i am bridging
[16:28] <Macer> with tap devices
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Nyons: yes
[16:28] <dcope> is there a way to "map" a remote ip to a lan ip?
[16:28] <dcope> could this be done in the hosts file?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> lualv: 2.6.32.58.generic is a Lucid Kernel
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> dcope: hosts translates names to IPs
[16:29] <dcope> ah
[16:29] <dcope> hrm. ActionParsnip, any other way to accomplish this then?
[16:29] <TJ-> lualv: without some context and the message you're referring to, I'm in the dark
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> dcope: you could make an SSH tunnel, you can then connect to the tunnel and it will securely transfer the data to the wan ip
[16:30] <BACKBOX> it says no such file or directory
[16:30] <dcope> that seems like a lot of work and i'd like something with less overhead
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> dcope: thats the only way I can think to do it, could ask in ##networking
[16:31] <BACKBOX> u knw wht thanks to the good souls for the help.i think imma download the windows version then install play on linux
[16:31] <dcope> ActionParsnip: will do, thanks
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> BACKBOX: bit unecessary for so little gain
[16:32] <BACKBOX> ACTIONPARSNIP...I WANTED TO GO TO THE DEEP WORLD BRO
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> ok.....no idea what that is
[16:33] <lualv> ActionParsnip:  ActionParsnip: I have installed a lucid version, but I upgraded tu precise from command line. When I type lsb_release -a, it says I'm running 12.04, but when I tye uname -a i see 2.6.32-58 ??¿?¿?¿¿
[16:33] <BACKBOX> BUT BACKBOX IS NOT AS FRIENDLY AS PLAIN UBUNTU U KNW
[16:33] <k1l> BACKBOX: no need for caps in here, thanks
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> lualv: reboot and hold SHIFT, select the Precise kernel
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> BACKBOX: backbox isnt supported here, this is Ubuntu support only
[16:34] <lualv> ActionParsnip:  may be a problem with grub?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> lualv: sounds like you havent booted to the new kernel
[16:34] <BACKBOX> K what what.sit your self down pliz.i will contact u whn i need ur opinion alrght
[16:34] <cfhowlett> !attitude|BACKBOX
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> BACKBOX: its not an opinion, its fact
[16:35] <lualv> ActionParsnip: let me check, many thanks
[16:35] <BACKBOX> ubottu thanks
[16:35] <cfhowlett> BACKBOX please dail back the attitude.  backbox is not supported.  fact.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> BACKBOX: on server:  irc.autistici.org    there is  #backbox   where your distribution is supported, not here
[16:36] <BACKBOX> almost similar to ubuntu so what r complaining for
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> BACKBOX: its still not supported here
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> BACKBOX: none of the 'ubuntu based' distributions are supported here
[16:36] <cfhowlett> !flavor|BACKBOX   if it's not on this list, it's not supported here.  sorry.
[16:41] <backboxHELP> Hello everyone, can anyone help/explain to me how to add programs (tools) from another distro onto another? In my case Kali (or bugtraq) tools on backbox? Thanks
[16:42] <k1l> backboxHELP: again: neither backbox nor kali is supported in here. please ask in ##linux
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> backboxHELP: on server:  irc.autistici.org    there is  #backbox   where your distribution is supported, not here
[16:43] <backboxHELP> thank you
[16:43] <backboxHELP> another problem i'm getting is every time i put my laptop on suspend, it won't wake up.. It turns on and the power led turns on, but that's it. The screen is completely black (not even back lit). I was also encountering this problem with Ubuntu and all my drivers were up to date and legit
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> backboxHELP: same channel
[16:43] <k1l> backboxHELP: again: ask the supportchannel of the distribution you run. we dont know what they changed.
[16:46] <lualv> ActionParsnip: Shift does not work during boot load. It is a virtualbox  virtual machine, and it may be the reason. Can I do the same editing the grub config file?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> lualv: you should still be able to bring up grub
[16:48] <chercheur> hello
[16:49] <chercheur> when can - i find kannel
[16:49] <Beldar> lualv, Make sure you click on that opening vbox machine and hitting the shift, I have found that clicking both one after the other like there is no tomorrow works.
[16:49] <k1l> !alis | chercheur
[16:50] <chercheur> who can hel me
[16:50] <oniMaker> how can I enable mcrypt for apache's php in ubuntu 14 ?
[16:51] <lualv> Beldar:  jajajaja I will try out this. :)
[16:51] <Beldar> lualv, click away and pound that shift, lol
[16:54] <lualv> beldar: playing videogames with both shiht keys works!
[16:55] <arteixo> jjj
[16:55] <lualv> beldar: Now it is booting with the new kernel for the first time and I have to check if everything is up&running
[16:57] <Beldar> lualv, Cool, vbox seems to have it's own agenda at time. ;)
[16:57] <Beldar> times* doh plural
[17:01] <shreezbot> Anyone have a link to some good instructions on getting KVM installed and working.
[17:01] <lualv> hi all:  Now I find the headers inside /usr/sec, as i was expecting. I appreciate very much your help
[17:01] <lualv> I mean /usr/src
[17:02] <compdoc> shreezbot, its pretty easy:  sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm virt-manager
[17:02] <compdoc> althogh this might be a little nicer:   sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm qemu-system virt-manager virt-viewer libvirt
[17:03] <shreezbot> compdoc, I think the problem I'm running into is that most instructions seem to assume you aren't installing on a headless server....
[17:03] <shreezbot> compdoc, I don't have access to the GUI, so I have to do everything form the command line
[17:03] <compdoc> shreezbot, then dont install virt-manager
[17:05] <compdoc> shreezbot, there isnt much to do to get it installed and working
[17:05] <compdoc> you just have to learn the networking part
[17:06] <shreezbot> Yea, I think I actually have it working, and I can even get a VM created and started, but I can't connect to it to install the OS...
[17:06] <compdoc> best to use a bridge, I think
[17:07] <compdoc> i like using two nics. one for the host, and one for the guests
[17:07] <goeo_> Tried Boot-Repair, log here, paste.ubuntu.com/7530468 , still can't boot.
[17:08] <goeo_> Any idea on what I should do?
[17:21] <SirMarky> Does anyone know how to control the AAC re-encoding of songs in Rhythmbox when they are sync'd to my iPod Classic?  What is the bitrate chosen by the program and how can I change it?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> SirLagz: what are you encoding form-to?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> from-to*
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> SirMarky: ^
[17:27] <SirMarky> hello
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> SirMarky: what are you encoding from-to?
[17:29] <tgm4883> Can anyone help with this error "ImportError: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1: undefined symbol: pcre_free_study"? Looking into it, it seems pcre_free_study should be available in libpcre3 > 8.20 (I've got 1:8.31-2), but I still get the error (on both 13.10 and 14.04)
[17:30] <SirMarky> ActionParsnip - My music is a mix of AAC, AIFF, AAC and a small handfull of MP3s.  This is because I used to use and love iTunes on the Mac.  Now I use Ubuntu and moving everything over.  With iTunes songs of a higher bitrate than that chosen in settings are reduced to it when sync'd to the iPod.  Mine was set to 256 AAC so anything higher than this was converted on the iPod with the original left untouched.  I understan
[17:30] <SirMarky> setting to change it.
[17:31] <Beldar> goeo_, You have the sda drive first read in the bios?
[17:31] <SirMarky> If I can't use Rhythmbox to do this, what should I use?
[17:32] <goeo_> funny thing is
[17:32] <SirMarky> I shoudl have said AAC, ALAC and AIFF not, AAC, AIFF and AAC.
[17:32] <Beldar> !who | goeo_
[17:33] <goeo_> Beldar: it's not, but it can't boot from any disk, so it goes right to bios.
[17:34] <Beldar> goeo_, I'm not up on efi, but making sure the correct HD is read first matters here, set sda first and try a boot if you have not already.
[17:35] <Beldar> goeo_, The sdb is not showing it's stuff, it errors on the script
[17:36] <Beldar> well not really errors it is a gpt
[17:36] <sl33k_> My digital camera is not being recognized by 14.04 (which used to be recognized in 10.04). I did lsblk but no relevant device was shown while keeping the device plugged in. Here is my lsblk output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7530829/ Any ideas why?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> SirMarky: you could use a bash script with mencoder to change the encoding
[17:38] <Beldar> goeo_, I'm not sure on having only one HD as GPT is workable sdb is, sda is not, others here will know better.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: when you last unplugged the device, did you use the safe remove feature in your OS before physically unplugging it?
[17:39] <goeo_> whoops, fixed. Boot-Repair apparenly installed grub as legacy.
[17:39] <goeo_> Beldar: ^
[17:39] <Beldar> goeo_, So that means?
[17:40] <SirMarky> ActionParsnip - I am sorry, I don't know how to do that.
[17:40] <goeo_> Beldar: I changed the boot type from uefi to legacy and it sees the disk as bootable bow.
[17:40] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: The last detection was for 10.04 on which I clean installed the 14.04. From the new install no detection
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> SirMarky: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35457/converting-aac-to-mp3-via-command-line
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> SirMarky: web search and you'll find guides....
[17:41] <Beldar> goeo_, Cool, hope that works, UEFI and EFI are beyond me never having a computer to test on.
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: yes, did you safe remove the storage in 10.04 before unplugging it?
[17:41] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: Nope iirc
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> SirMarky: also try soundconverter
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: why do you think that feature is in the OS?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: why do you think it is the first thing I ask?
[17:42] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: because it avoids data corruption
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: so why do you not do it?
[17:43] <SirMarky> ActionaParsnip - I don't want to use MP3.  They sound flat.  I want to continue using AAC, ALAC and AIFF or possibly converting to FLAC for the last two but continue to have the program re-encode to 256 AAC as I presently do.  If the program converts anyway why can't I amend the settings in a config file or elsewhere.  Seems half complete to do a job and not offer any options to amend the settings.
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: do you want corrupted data?
[17:44] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: I was lazy. but now I know better than to avoid it
[17:44] <newtolinux27> hello. i cannot connect to wifi when connecting to wired LAN. i am transfering data between laptop but i also want to be able to connect to my wifi because waiting file transfer to complete is boring. pls help thanks
[17:45] <bazhang> !wifi | newtolinux27
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: plug it into 10.04 and let it mount, then use the safe removal feature then wait to be told by your OS that it is ready to be unplugged
[17:46] <leedev> Is Jono having the Q&A?  No info on Ubuntu On Air.
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> newtolinux27: is the wired network on the same subnet as the wifi
[17:47] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: I think I was not clear as I wanted to be. I wiped out 10.04
[17:47] <k1l> leedev: yes, in a few minutes in #ubuntu-on-air
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: you need to get it mounted in something, got a windows system or does the same system dual boot with Windows?
[17:47] <leedev> k1l, thank you
[17:48] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: I have an xp as a guest os in vbox
[17:48] <newtolinux27> ActionParsnip: sorry but what do u mean by "in the same subnet"? all i see in the network connections tools is Wired Connections and my Wifi internet
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> newtolinux27: does the wired connection go to the same router giving you wireless connectivity?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: not sure that will work. If you unplug the device and wait a few seconds, then plug it back in and run:   dmesg | tail; lsb_release -a; uname -a; mount       what is output please?
[17:50] <newtolinux27> ActionParsnip: ahh no, the wifi is from my android phone
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> newtolinux27: you could set the wired connection up in /etc/network/interfaces and leave the wireless to be managed by network manager
[17:51] <Soelen> hello, I am having a problem installing ubuntu
[17:51] <newtolinux27> ActionParsnip: set using text editor?
[17:52] <Soelen> I try to create a multiple device for the efiboot parition
[17:52] <Soelen> but I'm getting errors messages
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> newtolinux27: yes, if memory serves, network manager will give you a single connection. If you use wicd you can set both, or just use the interfaces file and network manager will not be able to touch the wired connection
[17:52] <Soelen> really need help, kinda stuck installing ubuntu since weeks
[17:52] <Mikerhinos> if a windows game can't be run with Wine, is there a hope with like virtual machines ?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Mikerhinos: virtualization wont run 3D well at all
[17:53] <Soelen> can somebody provide installation help in a private chat?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Mikerhinos: you could look into CEdega or PlayOnLinux, both are not free in any way
[17:54] <newtolinux27> ActionParsnip: i got  # The loopback network interface (newline) auto lo (new line) iface lo inet loopback. what do i need to set, add or edit?
[17:54] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7530961/
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> newtolinux27: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: have you tried gphoto?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> newtolinux27: its a single line of output so no need to pastebin
[17:57] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: PlayOnLinux is Free as in Freedom.
[17:57] <Beldar> I thought it was as in beer. ;)
[17:57] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: trying...
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: can you advise newtolinux27 how to add an auto eth0 line in interfaces file using DHCP. I gotta jet
[17:59] <llutz> achernya: 2 lines; auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp
[18:00] <llutz> oops, wrong nick
[18:02] <newtolinux27> ActionParsnip: sorry i got DC, output from /etc/issue is Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[18:04] <mithran> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/stop-bootchart: file does not exist
[18:04] <newtolinux27> are u there bro?
[18:04] <mithran> my boot chart is not working
[18:04] <Mikerhinos> ActionParsnip: isn't playonlinux based on wine ?
[18:04] <mithran> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/stop-bootchart: file does not exist
[18:05] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: I am trying gphoto. I get the same output here as seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1657032 by entering --auto-detect. How could I download photos and where are they downloaded?
[18:05] <Jordan_U> newtolinux27: Is your phone configured for teathering? One problem might be that it is advertising itself as a default gateway via DHCP (your phone may be telling Ubuntu that it's the way Ubuntu should access the internet), and you can't (easily) have two default gateways (Ubuntu can't consider both your ethernet connected router and your phone to be its connection to the internet).
[18:06] <SirMarky> ActionParsnip - I have just installed Clementine and it does the re-encoding at chosen format and bitrate as desired.
[18:06] <Jordan_U> Mikerhinos: playonlinux is a wine front end, it is completely Free ( ActionParsnip was mistaken ).
[18:07] <mithran> my boot chart is not working
[18:07] <mithran> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/stop-bootchart: file does not exist
[18:07] <Jordan_U> mithran: What guide are you following?
[18:07] <mithran> Jordan_U:  means
[18:08] <newtolinux27> Jordan_U: Yes it is tethering.. and oh i see.. any solution for this?
[18:08] <bakflash> hello there, I've a new 4tb hdd and can't partition it to 4tb, it is always partioned to 2tb. I did the following: sudo fdisk -> n -> p -> 1 -> (default values: 2048 - 4294967294) -> w -> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd1 -> df -h: /dev/sdd1       2,0T  ... anyone an idea?
[18:08] <llutz> bakflash: you need gpt partition layout, fdisk cannot use that. use parted
[18:08] <Jordan_U> newtolinux27: To confirm, you *do* want to use the ethernet connected router for internet, correct?
[18:08] <mithran> Jordan_U:  i just disabled and enables the boot chart
[18:09] <Jordan_U> mithran: What command are you running and where did you find this command?
[18:09] <mithran> Jordan_U: but from several days back i just noticed it today
[18:09] <bakflash> llutz: oic, didn't know that. thank you! :)
[18:10] <ifthenelse> I have a weird issue--I am copying a file that is 400MB large from one folder to another. However, they were not the same!! An "@" symbol showed up in the somewhere in the file where there is no "@" symbol--this also happened when an "F" appeared. WHY is this happening? I am just copying a file!
[18:10] <newtolinux27> Jordan_U: oh no, i dont have internet from ethernet now, i use ethernet to transfer file between laptop, my current internet is from tether android phone.
[18:10] <Jordan_U> ifthenelse: How are you copying the file? What filesystem? What type of disk?
[18:10] <newtolinux27> ... and i wonder if its possible to use ethernet while also use the wifi
[18:10] <Jordan_U> newtolinux27: OK, so you want to get internet from your phone, and access just one other computer via ethernet, correct?
[18:11] <mithran> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7531037/
[18:11] <newtolinux27> Jordan_U: yes bro
[18:11] <mithran> Jordan_U:  all commands i used are there
[18:12] <Jordan_U> mithran: I asked two questions, you've only answered one of them.
[18:13] <mithran> Jordan_U: i just searched the web and got the commands
[18:13] <Jordan_U> mithran: OK, how did you configure the connection between your Ubuntu machine and the other machine via ethernet? What OS are you using for the other machine?
[18:13] <Jordan_U> mithran: From what website?
[18:13] <mithran> Jordan_U: i don't remember where it get from
[18:13] <mithran> Jordan_U:  i think i searched how to config bootchart in ubuntu
[18:14] <ifthenelse> Jordan_U: One person copied a file from a Mac to Ubuntu using "go -> connect", ssh, then copied the file from the mac system to the ubuntu system. It happened with me as well but I don't know if I did a cp (same system Ubuntu) or rsync (from Mac to Ubuntu). The filesystem is ext4
[18:14] <Jordan_U> mithran: When performing system level changes like this you really need to be much more careful.
[18:15] <mithran> Jordan_U:  hmmmmmmmm
[18:15] <Jordan_U> mithran: Also, never use "sudo" for GUI commands.
[18:15] <newtolinux27> Jordan_U: yes i want to get internet from my phone, and access just one other computer via ethernet
[18:15] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | mithran
[18:15] <mithran> Jordan_U:  Why?
[18:16] <axotle> hey guys what do you call that curser "|" in the search box ?
[18:16] <ODB2> axotle - the chink key
[18:16] <mithran> Jordan_U: ok
[18:16] <sl33k_> I get this message: Sorry, Ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error. I can't copy the details. Is there a place I could see and show what went haywire?
[18:16] <axotle> serious ?
[18:16] <ODB2> of course
[18:16] <ODB2> tilde and chink
[18:16] <bakflash> hmm llutz, maybe you can answer this too: I have two times the same drive. One of them is ntfs formatted. the NTFS formatted one shows 3,7TB in df -h, the ext4 one shows 3,6TB. Is this kind of related to ext4 or does it seems like I have an ..uhm.. 'crappy' drive?
[18:16] <mithran> Jordan_U: sudo update-rc.d stop-bootchart start 99 2 3 4 5
[18:16] <mithran> Jordan_U:  update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/stop-bootchart: file does not exist
[18:16] <axotle> this is tilde ~
[18:17] <ODB2> yep that's the one
[18:17] <ODB2> left of one
[18:17] <axotle> what is this one |
[18:17] <mithran> Jordan_U: replays like this
[18:17] <ODB2> the chink key
[18:17] <axotle> :|
[18:17] <sl33k_> Do I report the message?
[18:17] <axotle> don't believe you
[18:17] <module000> bakflash: look at the drive geometry and see how many sectors each disk has. don't measure this type of thing in bytes
[18:17] <ODB2> why would I lie?
[18:17] <Pici> ODB2: please stop.
[18:17] <ODB2> google it
[18:17] <Jordan_U> mithran: You really shouldn't be running that command, that type of thing should be done automatically as needed when installing such a package. I expect that the guide your were following was outdated, just plain wrong, or both.
[18:17] <llutz> bakflash: reserved blocks, fs-overhead... not sure
[18:17] <axotle> i did
[18:18] <mithran> Jordan_U: ok
[18:18] <ODB2> then you must have your answer
[18:18] <axotle> tilde gives me ~ but chink doesn't give me anything
[18:18] <Jordan_U> mithran: Don't just trust any link you find from google. Look for official documentation.
[18:18] <ODB2> if anyone calls it the "gook" key, they are being a massive racist
[18:19] <mithran> Jordan_U:  ok   i tried this too to reconfigure it but bad luck ........gso@System-GSO:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall bootchart
[18:19] <axotle> ODB2, is there anyways i can change the tilde in search box ?
[18:19] <Jordan_U> mithran: And make sure that the guides you follow are actually meant for the release of Ubuntu you're using.
[18:20] <mithran> Jordan_U:  can you help me to make it as defaults
[18:20] <ODB2> yeh, if you hold down shift and press chink key
[18:20] <ODB2> I am joking
[18:20] <mithran> Jordan_U: hmmmmmmm
[18:20] <ODB2> don't kick me
[18:20] <axotle> i know you are
[18:20] <ODB2> I am surprised you googled it to be honest
[18:20] <axotle> you've been joking the whole time
[18:20] <axotle> no
[18:20] <k1l> ODB2: last time now: be helpful in here please.
[18:20] <axotle> seriously
[18:20] <gerep> Hi all.. I'm helping a friend and we are trying to install this file: vagrant_1.0.3_x86_64.pkg.tar.xz with apt-get, how can we do that?
[18:20] <axotle> i never trusted you when you said chink
[18:20] <axotle> but i knew what a tilde was
[18:21] <mithran> please help me!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:21] <ODB2> axotle: In all honestly, the key is called "Vertical bar"
[18:21] <sl33k_> I get this message: Sorry, Ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error. I can't copy the details. Is there a place I could see and show what went haywire?
[18:21] <ODB2> but I think it should be called the chink key, but you know how Political Correctness is these days
[18:21] <module000> sl33k_: where are you seeing that message, in a popup?
[18:21] <Havenstance2> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7531067/ Any clues on how to fix this?
[18:21] <bakflash> module000: good idea, 100 cylinders less on the new drive. I guess I have a broken/bad drive :/
[18:21] <mithran> help me to make my bootchart to  defaults
[18:22] <sl33k_> module000: Yup. Just as I logged into the account
[18:22] <axotle> no it's not called chink...
[18:23] <module000> sl33k_: look at your .xsession-errors file first, chances are the error causing that is detailed in there
[18:23] <newtolinux27> Jordan_U: r u there? pls help
[18:23] <k1l> axotle: | is called pipe
[18:26] <jpoole> so I'm trying to bootstrap a trusty AMI image and do a safe-upgrade on it, but it appears that grub is saying "A new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified.".  My problem is that I want to do this all non-interactively and can't.
[18:26] <Jordan_U> newtolinux27: How did you configure the connection between your Ubuntu machine and the other machine via ethernet? What OS are you using for the other machine?
[18:27] <colg> hi everyone
[18:28] <colg> please can some one help with what must be a simple query, i have googled but dont understan quite embarrasing
[18:28] <newtolinux27> Jordan_U: i just plug the LAN cable, one is ubuntu and other is kubuntu kde
[18:28] <gassho> sure colg, at least we can try
[18:28] <colg> how can i add a coind daemon to auto run on startup without logginf in
[18:28] <colg> thanks gassho for offering
[18:29] <gassho> im no expert
[18:29] <gassho> but you're welcome
[18:29] <mithran> help me to make my bootchart to  defaults
[18:30] <mithran> how to reconfigure my boot chart
[18:30] <robertprakigam> YES Finally
[18:30] <colg> i need coind and twistd -y launcher.tac to auto start on bootup without having to log on first
[18:30] <Jordan_U> newtolinux27: Please pastebin the output of "route -n" and "nm-tool" after connecting the two machines via ethernet.
[18:30] <mithran> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/stop-bootchart: file does not exist
[18:31] <newtolinux27> Jordan_U: ohhh ok but then i will lose the internet connection. i will pastebin it and come back in few minutes ok
[18:33] <Jordan_U> mithran: You don't need to run update-rc.d. Stop following the guide that you've now lost and look for official documentation instead.
[18:35] <Dasda> Ìû
[18:35] <Jordan_U> mithran: For instance this page, with two very simple steps, neither of which include update-rc.d https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting .
[18:38] <Havenstance2> Can anyone offer a bit of advice on SSMTP?
[18:39]  * jpoole is away: (automatically dead ) [BX-MsgLog Off]
[18:39]  * jpoole is idle, automatically dead [bX(l/on p/off)]
[18:39] <Dasda> Ìû
[18:40] <mithran> jpoole:  ok
[18:40] <newtolinux27> Jordan_U: ok.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7531174/ and paste.ubuntu.com/751184
[18:43] <newtolinux27> ...ohh http://paste.ubuntu.com/7531184
[18:45] <z1haze> can someone help me write a simple script to scan files in a directory and replace instances of a world with another
[18:47] <flacbean002> Is anyone aware of a tool for linux that well decrypt osx filevault with knowledge of the password? I have the disk mounted but can't find a tool.
[18:51] <z1haze> ah i figuredi t out, nevermind!
[18:52] <RustyShackleford> i've got several packages which I installed from the standard repo
[18:52] <ifthenelse> Does anybody know why copying a file would result in the copied file being different from the original by replacing a character with "@" or "F"?
[18:52] <RustyShackleford> there are newer versions available in a PPA i'm going to add
[18:52] <RustyShackleford> is there an easy way to make sure all the old stuff is removed?
[18:53] <k1l> RustyShackleford: the package system will install the latest version. so if the PPA got a more recent it will install that over the older one of the ubuntu repo
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> k1l, can I replace the older packages simply by installing this PPA?
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> or should I try to uninstall all of them before adding the PPA?
[18:54] <ben14> Can someone help me with irssi please.. I have a script added that shows clients on the side of the screen , but I logged into my android for a bit and now when I ssh into it via my computer, list is in the center of the screen... how do I change that without actually closing irssi?
[18:55] <qin> ben14: /j #irssi
[18:55] <k1l> RustyShackleford: as i said: the packagesystem will notice the PPA and will look up if that is newer and then install that
[18:55] <ben14> ok sorry I will join it now
[18:56] <RustyShackleford> perhaps I'm failing to express myself clearly
[18:56] <n88> where exactly would i edit the exact command that is used when i do 'service pure-ftpd start'
[18:56] <qin> RustyShackleford: if you really have to: apt-get remove --purge package_name
[18:56] <n88> it starts like so "/usr/sbin/pure-ftpd -u 1000 -E -8 UTF-8 -O clf:/var/log/pure-ftpd/transfer.log -B" but i want to add a few different options in there
[18:57] <llutz> n88: check /etc/default/pure-ftp*    if there is a file for default options
[18:57] <RustyShackleford> so I add the PPA, and then? will the package manager automagically replace all the old packages?
[18:57] <qin> RustyShackleford: yes
[18:57] <n88> thanks llutz
[18:57] <llutz> n88: if not, check /etc/init or /etc/init.d
[18:58] <RustyShackleford> wow really? I expected this to be much more challenging
[18:58] <RustyShackleford> lets install it and see what happens i guess
[18:58] <qin> RustyShackleford: or accrualy I am not certain if update/upgrade will do so...
[18:59] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[18:59] <k1l> !ppa | RustyShackleford
[19:00] <k1l> RustyShackleford: you need to reload the packagelist which will be done by "sudo apt-get update" or the GUI and then it will be prompted for some updates
[19:01] <Gallomimia> hi . i did a funky install using the server iso. what packages can i install to make it show a desktop and where can i select those for extra install??
[19:01] <bazhang> Gallomimia, ubuntu-desktop is one
[19:02] <PCworker> what is the command in terminal mode to be able to see what version os you have installed?
[19:02] <fellipe> hi. I am trying: iwconfig wlan0 channel1 essis something mode ad-hoc and I am getting: Error for wireless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) :     SET failed on device wlan0;  Device or resource busy. even after ifconfig wlan0 down Ubuntu 14.04.
[19:03] <k1l> Gallomimia: make sure lightdm ist installed, too
[19:04] <cerry> PCworker: uname -a or probably lsb_release -r
[19:04] <sl33k_> Which is a good image compressing tool?
[19:04] <cerry> (or lsb_release -a for full output)
[19:04] <PCworker> cerry: Thank you
[19:05] <p0wder> I have a dual boot machine with two different types of Linux installed, and each have a swap partition.  How do I know which swap partition is for my Ubuntu OS?
[19:05] <genii> sl33k_: Disk type image or photo type image?
[19:05] <llutz> p0wder: check blkids
[19:05] <sl33k_> genii: jpeg. silly me for not being specific
[19:06] <llutz> p0wder: and why do you use 2, use 2swap for all distros
[19:06] <genii> sl33k_: Probably jpegoptim then
[19:06] <p0wder> i installed Kali along side because i was having too much lag from live cd
[19:07] <p0wder> I can use one swap for both OS's?
[19:07] <llutz> p0wder: sry, use 1 swap for all
[19:07] <p0wder> oooo
[19:07] <Jordan_U> p0wder: As long as you don't ever intend to hibernate, yes.
[19:08] <sl33k_> genii: looks cool thanks
[19:08] <qin> Jordan_U: why?
[19:08] <genii> sl33k_: np
[19:08] <fellipe> hi. I am trying: iwconfig wlan0 channel1 essis something mode ad-hoc and I am getting: Error for wireless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) :     SET failed on device wlan0;  Device or resource busy. even after ifconfig wlan0 down Ubuntu 14.04.
[19:08] <p0wder> does it matter which Swap I delete right now?
[19:09] <Jordan_U> qin: If one distro is hibernated then the other can't use the swap partition. The hibernation image is stored in the swap partition.
[19:09] <qin> Jordan_U: Sorry, I in slow mode apparently, thanks.
[19:09] <Jordan_U> qin: You're welcome.
[19:10] <p0wder> Alright.  So, right now i have two Swaps.  does it matter which one i repartition?
[19:10] <qin> Jordan_U: one thinky, how to boot other sysrem if one is hibernated?
[19:10] <qin> system
[19:10] <kaste> p0wder: no, it's just a matter of size
[19:11] <Jordan_U> p0wder: Ensure that both distros' fstab are using the same UUID for swap, and that it's the UUID of the partition you do *not* plan to delete. Then ensure that the swap you plan to delete is not currently in use, "swapon -s", then delete the unused swap partition.
[19:11] <Bashing-om> p0wder: does not matter, so long as the file "etc/fstab" is edited to point to the remanining swap partition.
[19:11] <Jordan_U> qin: Same way you would boot it if the other is not hibernated. Boot the computer and select it from the grub menu.
[19:11] <kaste> If you need some criterion, think about which partition you want to add the space to later on
[19:12] <p0wder> "swapon -s" doesn't give me any info
[19:12] <p0wder> it says filename, etc....
[19:12] <canaima> hola
[19:13] <p0wder> maybe my ubuntu OS isn't associated with a swap
 as <Jordan_U> said, checkout your /etc/fstab in your text editor.
[19:15] <p0wder> got ya.  thanks guys
[19:15] <lmat> How do I ensure the mouse doesn't hesitate when going over from screen to screen ?
[19:15] <lmat> I'm using unity :)
[19:15] <Anastar> hey me dejaste en R bobo
[19:15] <steelgolem> lmat i have the same problem
[19:15] <lmat> steelgolem: :(
[19:15] <steelgolem> among other things to fix
[19:15] <Anastar> si como no ja
[19:15] <steelgolem> but i just installed it, so
[19:15] <steelgolem> gotta work out the kinks
[19:16] <Juanknight> LOCA BOBA
[19:16] <Anastar> bobobobobo
[19:16] <steelgolem> like fighting to get this nvidia driver installed
[19:16] <ben14> lmat: I had that issue before. I installed the official graphics driver for my video card and it seemed to go away
[19:16] <lmat> steelgolem: Ah, drivers first :)
[19:16] <Anastar> hey sin hola
[19:16] <Juanknight> Hola Bobaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:16] <steelgolem> yep
[19:16] <lmat> ben14: That doesn't make sense...
[19:16] <Anastar> bobo tuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[19:16] <lmat> oh yeah, someone recommended unity-tweaks...
[19:17] <cerry> lmat: actually it seems there is now a checkbox in "displays"
[19:17] <Juanknight> ) : asi eres vos
[19:17] <Anastar> hey bobo responde
[19:17] <lmat> cerry: perfect :D:D:D
[19:17] <lmat> steelgolem: ^ !!
[19:18] <lmat> sticky edges off. check :D
[19:18] <Anastar> ya que tienes de tarea del cole bobo
[19:18] <cerry> i remember using tweaks ur something before and also changing some values somewhere but this is far more convenient :>
[19:18] <Juanknight> Puta No Tengo NADA
[19:18] <Anastar> hey
[19:18] <buoyant> hello everyone, I'd like to add multiple RSS feeds at a time, and I'm using liferea. could anyone suggest me a way to do it? can I i.e. directly add them to any file of liferea folder?
[19:19] <Juanknight> Hey Que RIDICULA!!!
[19:19] <steelgolem> trying software center method first
[19:19] <Anastar> no me a llegado tu mensaje
[19:19] <Anastar> respondemeeeeeeeeeee
[19:19] <Anastar> no me vas a responder
[19:19] <Juanknight> Ya VA que voy a ver como va MINECRAFT
[19:20] <Juanknight> Ya vi
[19:20] <Anastar> te quedais alli como un bobo bobo
[19:20] <k1l> !sp | Juanknight Anastar
[19:20] <k1l> !spanish | Juanknight Anastar
[19:20]  * lmat gives cerry a kiss
[19:21] <PCworker> hey yall, I also have 1 hard drive with Ubuntu installed and a swap partition of 9gigs. I am also getting ready to install an additional hard drive with another Linux Distro on it. When I do that, Can I tell the next distro to use the 9gig swap I already have?
[19:21] <reaper> hi all, im back and i got my java issue sorted however i made a teamspeak mysql database with the wrong listening port for teamspeak how do i edit the database to fix that port
[19:21]  * cerry blushes ~ oh behave
[19:21] <Anastar> join ubutu
[19:21] <milehigh> Does the 13.10 standard Desktop install disc include support for installing on mdRAID1 now, or do I still need the alternate CD to do this?
[19:22] <shad0w_> Hello Peeps
[19:22] <Bashing-om> PCworker: Yepper, in the affirmative.
[19:23] <reaper> hi all, im back and i got my java issue sorted however i made a teamspeak mysql database with the wrong listening port for teamspeak how do i edit the database to fix that port?
[19:23] <buoyant> hello everyone, I'd like to add multiple RSS feeds at a time, and I'm using liferea. could anyone suggest me a way to do it? can I i.e. directly add them to any file of liferea folder?
[19:25] <theslow1> hello, does anyone know why a regular user has permission to use serial ports, after being added to the 'dialout' group' but an underpriliged user like 'uwsgi' does not
[19:25] <lmat> I got rid of the check in displays (sticky edges), and that made it better, but my mouse still stuck.
[19:25] <PCworker> Bashing-om: Can you tell me what or how to edit the information so that the new distro will use the 9gig swap?
[19:25] <lmat> ccsm; ubuntu unity plugin > edge stop velocity; ^_^
[19:25] <reaper> hi all, im back and i got my java issue sorted however i made a teamspeak mysql database with the wrong listening port for teamspeak how do i edit the database to fix that port?
[19:25] <RustyShackleford> xmodmap seems to be broken on ubuntu
[19:26] <lmat> Really what I want is a value around 15.
[19:26] <RustyShackleford> did they change the recommened way to remap keys? I just wanna swap esc with caps lock
[19:26] <Bashing-om> PCworker: If you have set up a partition for the new install before hand ( for root) the installer will take care of finding and adding the swap partition.
[19:27] <lmat> okay, maybe 30.
[19:27] <Gallomimia> can someone name the package i should install for nvidia drivers?
[19:27] <Gallomimia> i didn't find lightdm yet. doh
[19:28] <PCworker> Bashing-om: Then basically the installer will setup the new distro and find and use the swap automatically.
[19:28] <theslow1> Gallomimia: nouveau I think
[19:29] <Bashing-om> PCworker: I always set up partitins manually -> something else option to install and the install wizard does find and ad the swap partition. I have 4 installs on this box and 1 swap partition shared by all.
[19:30] <foxi> moin
[19:31] <PCworker> bashing-om: Thanks for that info. I'm glad to hear that. I was afraid it was going to be harder than that to get it done.
[19:32] <Bashing-om> PCworker: It's ubuntu, it is only as difficult as you want to make it.
[19:32] <RustyShackleford> does 14.04 use Mir yet, or still X11?
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> RustyShackleford  not yet, there's also #ubuntu-mir
[19:33] <RustyShackleford> just curious what the status on that was
[19:33] <PCworker> bashing-om: Yeah, I am still learning to do things from the command line.
[19:33] <RustyShackleford> will Mir kill Kubuntu, Xubuntu and so on?
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> !mir
[19:35] <Bashing-om> PCworker: Hang in there, it gets easier with practice, the true power of linux is in the command line.
[19:35] <Abhishek_> Just observed a strange issue on my 14.04 with Eclipse, when it became unresponsive for some time and the audio stuck too.
[19:36] <Abhishek_> I then get a "System Program Issue"; Soft CPU lockup detected for 23s java bug something
[19:38] <lmat> I have an application "stuck" to the Unity launcher. I can open the program just fine. How do I open another instance of it?
[19:38] <lmat> ... from the launcher ^_^
[19:39] <trism> lmat: middle click?
[19:40] <PCworker> bashing-om: Can you recommend a good tutorial or book, so that I can read and follow along and get the hands on experience as well?
[19:40] <lmat> trism: hey, hey :D It looks like it opened one (even though the new one was in back of everything else ^_^)
[19:40] <lmat> trism: thanks!
[19:40] <fballs> How can I install a newer version of VLC?
[19:40] <lmat> trism: I think that was compiz window z-ordering bug, it worked as expected this time.
[19:40] <fballs> i've run apt-get update/upgrade
 How do I ensure the mouse doesn't hesitate when going over from screen to screen ?
[19:41] <fballs> but VLC is still at v2.1.4
[19:41] <steelgolem> got it figured out
[19:41] <steelgolem> in the screen settings there's an option for "sticky screen"
[19:41] <steelgolem> turn that shit OFF
[19:41] <steelgolem> awful thing.
[19:41] <fballs> i need v2.2.0 to fix a blu-ray audio playback bug
[19:41] <steelgolem> "sticky edges"
 I have an application "stuck" to the Unity launcher. I can open the program just fine. How do I open another instance of it?
[19:42] <steelgolem> i right click on the task manager icon
[19:42] <steelgolem> for terminal, for example
[19:42] <bluezone> What are my option in terms of running a wine application in a sandbox? I'm not really interested in chroot because i need a solution that allows me to open 4-8 instances of the same application under sandboxes and i don't want to create 4-8 different chroots
[19:43] <bluezone> (i.e. i need each instance to run in a seperate sandbox environment )
[19:43] <steelgolem> that's a nice trick though trism, thanks
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> bluezone  what do you want to achieve? your end goal?
[19:44] <PCworker> Can anyone recommend a good tutorial or book on the Linux Command Line, so that I can read and follow along and get the hands on experience as well?
[19:44] <bluezone> MonkeyDust, running 4-8 applications in different sandboxes basically
[19:44] <bluezone> that's the end goal :P
[19:44] <bazhang> bluezone, what app
[19:44] <sluidfoe> howdy. Is there a quick way to get a diff of a default config file and the local version of that file?
[19:44] <tgm4883> bluezone: would wine prefixes work?
[19:44] <bazhang> !terminal | PCworker
[19:45] <bluezone> tgm4883, possibly actually
[19:45] <Embalmed> i'm using resolvconf, but something keeps removing the resolv.conf symlink and writing a non-symlinked file.  I suspect dhcp since the settings are from my local network
[19:45] <Bashing-om> PCworker: There are lots of them on the net. I do recommend a hard book as well, so you can highlight and mark and know a ready reference. http://search.oreilly.com/?q=linux <- take your pick. online :http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty ,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages .
[19:45] <bluezone> bazhang, it's Diablo 2 actually :P
[19:46] <bazhang> bluezone, try #winehq for particular app help
[19:46] <Abhishek_> I have an external display whose EDID isn't being detected (all zeroes). any hints?
[19:46] <Embalmed> anyone know where i should look to stop resolv.conf getting overwritten?
[19:47] <Wulf> Hello!
[19:47] <Wulf> In unity, there's a quick start bar on the left side of the screen. It has a firefox symbol. How can I replace it with chromium by default?
[19:47] <PCworker> Thanks again, I will go to my Amazon account and get one. As usual yall have been a big help to my learning this OS and my fun doing it.
[19:48] <pdo_fn14> !package firefox
[19:48] <steelgolem> should my mouse pointer be blinking every time something happens?
[19:48] <steelgolem> seems like an odd behavior
[19:48] <keymer> hola
[19:49] <steelgolem> like, as i type in hexchat, every key i press or every time the chat buffer is updated with new chat, the mouse blinks
[19:49] <Bashing-om> PCworker: Welcome, it is well worth th effort. One only gets out if it what they put into it.
[19:50] <steelgolem> i just updated my nvidia drivers so i figured that would be fixed, but it's like x isn't buffering or something
[19:50] <knob> hola key
[19:50] <knob> ermm... he left
[19:50] <knob> oh well
[19:50] <PCworker> Bashing-om: You're a positive person on here. You need a raise. lol
[19:50] <knob> Man, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop... first experience with Ubuntu... must say: dang well polished!   Very very nice.
[19:51] <lmat> How can I tell what version of git is going to be installed ?
[19:51] <lmat> Ubuntu 14.04, running sudo apt-get install git ;
[19:51] <Bashing-om> PCworker: LOL; working on it !
[19:52] <bazhang> lmat, for 14.04?
[19:52] <lmat> bazhang: aye
[19:53] <bazhang> lmat, easiest way is /msg ubottu info git
[19:53] <lmat> bazhang: awesome :)
[19:53] <Bashing-om> lmat: try -> apt-cache policy git <- . see if that is what ya lookin for.
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> lmat  apt-cache policy git
[19:53] <lmat> ah, that's good !
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> or: apt-cache show git
[19:54] <lmat> whoa-hoa!
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> lmat  does that suit your needs?
[19:55] <lmat> MonkeyDust: Oh yes, more than suit my needs! :D
[19:57] <lmat> What is git-core ? Why does git not depend on git-core (I know that's a silly question ^_^)
[19:58] <lmat> nm
[19:58] <ARM9> so I'm having a bit of trouble booting my live usb on my laptop (windows 8, uefi). tried with secure boot disabled and enabled, I got this both times http://codepad.org/FjA1u87B
[19:58] <ARM9> I used unetbootin to make the live usb.
[19:58] <lmat> "transitional dummy package. The 'git-core' package has been renamed to 'git', which has been installed automatically."
[19:58] <lmat> That's simple enough.
[19:58] <rek> aushausauhs !ot
[19:59] <rek> hi
[19:59] <rek> !ot
[19:59] <ARM9> thanks keep spamming !ot so my question disappears (not to mention this constant stream of join/part)
[20:00] <lmat> ARM9: Why would you want your question to disappear ?
[20:00] <Bashing-om> lmat: Have ya done -> apt-cache depends git , apt-cache rdepends git <- ? .. see if that makes sense to you.
[20:00] <bazhang> ARM9, disable the joins and parts in your client
[20:00] <steelgolem> if you don't like irc as a medium, you mgiht want to try forums instead
[20:00] <rek> sauhsuas i love arm processors
[20:00] <lmat> Bashing-om: awesome...I'm thinking I need to get real close and friendly with apt-cache ^_^
[20:00] <lmat> Bashing-om: apt-cache depends git-core seems pretty clear!
[20:01] <ARM9> not a bad idea bazhang
[20:02] <Bashing-om> lmat: Upclose and personal with apt -> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites <- .
[20:04] <lmat> Bashing-om: awesome :D
[20:05] <lmat> Bashing-om: Oh wait, I don't go to debian websites... I use ubuntu
[20:05] <lmat> ;-P
[20:05] <Bashing-om> ubuntu is a derivative of Debian .. most things apply.
[20:06] <Bashing-om> lmat: ^^ that is so at the oerating system level .. desk top environments, different story.
[20:06] <Bashing-om> *operating
[20:09] <Jordan_U> ARM9: Can you try booting from DVD instead? It looks like for some reason the kernel/initrd provided for the Ubuntu live image can't access your USB drive, but may be able to access the DVD drive (and from there load additional kernel modules to access your USB drives).
[20:10] <ARM9> jordan_U plot twist: I don't have a dvd drive
[20:10] <ARM9> or any sort of drive for optical medium
[20:11] <ARM9> that certainly puts a wrench in my plans
[20:11] <Jordan_U> ARM9: If you're adventurous you could try installing using the netboot kernel and initrd, though you may not know if Ubuntu will be able to access your USB devices until after you've already installed Ubuntu then.
[20:12] <Jordan_U> ARM9: Note that you don't actually have to netboot, just use unetbootin to prepare a USB with the "minimal" iso, which will give you an ugly pseudo graphical installer, and requires an internet connection during install (preferably via ethernet rather than wireless).
[20:12] <Jordan_U> !minimal | ARM9
[20:12] <Bashing-om> lmat: OK, ubuntu ! -> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/apt.conf.5.html , http://www.ubuntugeek.com/reference-guideubuntu-package-management-using-dpkg.html ...
[20:13] <OEP> Is anyone else having trouble with the 3.2.0-63 kernel that was released today (for 12.04)?
[20:13] <lmat> Bashing-om: :-P Thanks
[20:13] <Bashing-om> lmat: np, This is also an intense area of interest of mine.
[20:14] <ARM9> I see, cheers jordan_U, I'll give the mini install a shot
[20:14] <cerry_> OEP: up and running over here, as far as I can tell
[20:14] <ARM9> off I go then, wish me luck
[20:15] <tica> vorbeste cineva romaneste
[20:15] <xamox> I've installed Ubuntu on an atom based machine.  What's weird is that if I install desktop it will load up the login screen fine, if I install server it never loads get's to prompt (essentially wakes up monitor).   I'm guessing there is something in gdm that is fixing this, I would like to run server.  Any ideas what could be causing this?
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> !ro
[20:15] <OEP> cerry: works fine on a lot of machines for me, but a ton of my Precision workstations can't mount their OS partitions after the upgrade, older kernels work fine
[20:19] <alberto_> ...
[20:22] <ARM9> hoorah, I reformated my usb drive and remade the liveusb, and thusly it works.
[20:22] <jpoole> anyone get a grub problem when safe-upgrad'ing trusty?
[20:22] <cerry> OEP: probably won't be able to help you with that :C
[20:23] <k1l> jpoole: no
[20:23] <ARM9> No need for netboot jordan_U
[20:23] <ARM9> something mustve gone wrong the first time around
[20:23] <k1l> jpoole: but if you explain more people could help you
[20:23] <jpoole> so I'm trying to bootstrap a trusty AMI image and do a safe-upgrade on it, but it appears that grub is saying "A new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified.".  My problem is that I want to do this all non-interactively and can't.
[20:24] <Jordan_U> jpoole: What do you mean by "safe-upgrade"?
[20:24] <jpoole> aptitude -y safe-upgrade
[20:24] <Jordan_U> jpoole: Where did you get this image from?
[20:25] <jpoole> ubuntu's ami's
[20:25] <k1l> jpoole: menu.lst? that is grub1. ubuntu go grub2 since some ages
[20:25] <jpoole> interesting
[20:25] <jpoole> ok, so let me step through what my bootstrap process it
[20:25] <jpoole> is
[20:25] <phunyguy> What is an AMI image?
[20:26] <phunyguy> and if it is not the standard, it may very well use grub v1
[20:26] <jpoole> ami-1d8c9574
[20:26] <phunyguy> I don't know what that is.
[20:26] <jpoole> is that the ubuntu trusty lts image?
[20:26] <jpoole> for us-east?
[20:27] <k1l> amazon machine image
[20:27]  * jpoole double checks.
[20:27] <phunyguy> yeah that may use grub 1
[20:27] <k1l> jpoole: you are on amazon cloud servers?
[20:27] <jpoole> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[20:27] <jpoole> i got the ami from there.
[20:27] <coinswap-ian> if i have a shell script with 2 commands in it on separate lines, will it wait for the first line (command) to complete before executing the 2nd line?
[20:28] <Bashing-om> jpoole: To add to the mix "/boot/grub/menu.lst" has not neen in use in ages in a standard install. What in the world are you doing ?
[20:28] <k1l> jpoole: can you describe what you want to do at all?
[20:28] <phunyguy> jpoole, those images are to be used on amazon cloud servers... is that what you are doing?
[20:28] <jpoole> well yeah.
[20:28] <jpoole> ec2 image
[20:29] <jpoole> i am basically just booting a trusty amd64 hvm:ebs instance type in us-east, and then doing a aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:29] <jpoole> and i get that grub error
[20:29] <phunyguy> strange.
[20:29] <jpoole> which i thought was peculiar too
[20:29] <phunyguy> maybe amazon can shed some light on that?
[20:29] <phunyguy> have you contacted them?
[20:30] <jpoole> ubuntu manages those images, or canacial does.
[20:30] <phunyguy> these cloud places that host cloud servers, sometimes modify the ubuntu installs to work in their environment... this may be the case here
[20:30] <phunyguy> OH I see
[20:30] <jpoole> well sure, these are 'cloud'init'ialized.
[20:30] <phunyguy> yeah i see that now
[20:31] <Jordan_U> jpoole: Please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep grub" after installing, and before doing anything else.
[20:31] <jpoole> i'll launch another one now, and step through it
[20:31] <phunyguy> is that an error, or is it simply asking you to compare the two files and let it choose for you, or make changes yourself?
[20:31] <jpoole> jordon will do
[20:32] <jpoole> phun it's not an error per say, but it's warning me what to do with this file, keep package maintainers, keep the current, diff the files, or try a 3 way merge.
[20:33] <phunyguy> jpoole, so choose.
[20:33] <jpoole> i want to do this non-interactively.
[20:33] <jpoole> ie, using something like packer.
[20:33] <jpoole> creating my own ami, based off the ubuntu ami
[20:33] <phunyguy> Yeah I am not sure there.  Good luck.
[20:33] <jpoole> put my special sauce on the image, configure it for me. etc
[20:33] <jpoole> it was working two days ago
[20:33] <jpoole> now all of a sudden
[20:33] <jpoole> anyhow, i'll step through it and pastebin it.
[20:34] <genii> Hm
[20:35] <phunyguy> FYI, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/grub
[20:35] <phunyguy> version 0.97
[20:35] <genii> !info grub-legacy-ec2
[20:35] <phunyguy> and there it is
[20:36] <jpoole> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7531849/
[20:36] <jpoole> so that's before i do anything
[20:36] <jpoole> fresh trusty ami image.
[20:37] <phunyguy> well that shows grub2, but also mentions grub-legacy
[20:40] <Jordan_U> jpoole: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst, and the output of "md5sum /boot/grub/menu.lst", then immediately (before doing any other configuration). "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[20:42] <akenny52> how should i go about installing  ubuntu?
[20:43] <akenny52> im completely new to this by the way
[20:43] <icecream> It's not hard to install Ubuntu
[20:43] <compdoc> boot the dvd, select 'install'
[20:43] <Stmeter> Download it, Burn it to a CD/FlashDrive and BOot to it.
[20:43] <icecream> Yes
[20:43] <icecream> It's a pretty straight-forward process
[20:44] <akenny52> it needs to be a disc, or can i use something else?
[20:44] <k1l> akenny52: you can make a usb-pendrive
[20:44] <Stmeter> USB Drive works too if you know how.
[20:44] <jpoole> Jordan, apt-get upgrade, or aptitude -y safe-upgrade
[20:44] <jpoole> apt-get doesn't show anything to upgrade.
[20:45] <k1l> jpoole: apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:45] <k1l> and run apt-get update first
[20:45] <akenny52> any thing else i should know before i jump into the waters?
[20:45] <Jordan_U> jpoole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:45] <superta> I have an openvpn connection configured, but currently all of my traffic is going through the VPN connection.  I only actually want one port range to be talking/listening on the openvpn ports.  Is there a way to make that happen?
[20:45] <Jordan_U> jpoole: Well, you probably don't have aptidude installed yet, so "apt-get upgrade".
[20:45] <jpoole> aptitude is installed
[20:45] <jpoole> it's default on the ami
[20:46] <jpoole> but i'll run what you say
[20:46] <Jordan_U> jpoole: Interesting.
[20:46] <homegrown> zelda classic not working. bash: ./zlaunch-l: No such file or directory OR  (sh) zlaunch-l: 1:zlaunch-l: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string  . identical output for running any zelda classic executables
[20:46] <k1l> homegrown: is that file in that directory you are in?
[20:47] <L3mce> What is a good firewall with GUI for ubuntu?
[20:48] <icecream> I prefer aptitude. It resolves the dependencies better
[20:48] <homegrown> yes, GUI failed, that's the CLI out put when run from the ZC directory
[20:48] <jpoole> ah ha.
[20:49] <jpoole> perhaps this is a better way to upgrade than aptitude.
[20:49] <jpoole> cause i am not getting the warning now
[20:49] <jpoole> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7531931/
[20:49] <Jordan_U> icecream: Source for aptititude "resolving dependencies better"?
[20:49] <Pici> 70
[20:49] <k1l> aptitude had some issues with multiarch back then
[20:49] <icecream> hm?
[20:50] <Pici> Jordan_U: It can suggest alternative dependencies if for some reason they are broken.
[20:50] <icecream> ye
[20:50] <jpoole> that explains it :)
[20:50] <jpoole> it's being 'nicer' to me.
[20:50] <jpoole> so what's the story with apt-get vs aptitude.
[20:50] <jpoole> i heard through a vine sometime ago, that it was all going to go the aptitude way...
[20:50] <Jordan_U> jpoole: I doubt that the difference you're seeing has anything to do with apt-get vs aptitude.
[20:51] <jpoole> well, let me see if i can prove that
[20:51] <lmat> jpoole: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html
[20:51]  * jpoole fires up another instance
[20:51] <icecream> aptitude all the way
[20:51] <lmat> jpoole: 2.2.1 or so :)
[20:51] <Pici> jpoole: debian did/does perfer aptitude, Ubuntu prefers apt-get.
[20:51] <jpoole> ahh.
[20:51] <ulonnam> hello
[20:51] <Jordan_U> jpoole: I expect that something you're installing is editing /boot/grub/menu.lst, which people used to think was actually a safe and simple thing to do (they were wrong :).
[20:52] <homegrown> k1l: yes it is
[20:52] <k1l> homegrown: then there might be something wrong with that files.
[20:53] <jpoole> Jordan_U thanks for the insight, i'll just satisfy my issue with apt-get for now, and isolate my possible package mangling with some fun trial and error.
[20:53] <jpoole> and appreciate your help.
[20:54] <jpoole> Jordan, for fun i just ran an aptitude -y safe-upgrade after that apt-get update..
[20:54] <jpoole> low and behold there's linux-headers-3.13.0-27{a} linux-headers-3.13.0-27-generic{a} linux-image-3.13.0-27-generic{a}
[20:54] <icecream> ain't they are using the same package lists
[20:54] <icecream> so you only have to update one
[20:55] <icecream> and sources.list etc etc
[20:55] <OEP> cerry: in case you're still interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1323836
[20:55] <jpoole> well why after i run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, and then run aptitude -y safe-upgrade there is additional packages.
[20:55] <akenny52> hey guys, i dont mean to be a bother. i have a couple more newb questions, so is there a better forum to go to? or do you guys not mind
[20:55] <akenny52> ?
[20:55] <Pici> jpoole: because you haven't run apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:55] <akenny52> and gals :)
[20:55] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | jpoole
[20:56] <icecream> !full-upgrade
[20:56] <k1l> akenny52: go ahead
[20:56] <icecream> eh
[20:56] <jpoole> ahh ok.
[20:56] <jpoole> I guess i'll go back to reading the differences.
[20:56] <icecream> Don't you update Ubuntu with editing the sources.list and a dist-upgrade/full-upgrade
[20:57] <icecream> *upgrade
[20:57] <k1l> icecream: no
[20:57] <icecream> *to a new version
[20:57] <Jordan_U> icecream: Definitely not.
[20:57] <icecream> oh
[20:57] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | icecream
[20:57] <icecream> Then I did something wrong the last year's
[20:57] <akenny52> so do i download ubuntu as a winzip to my computer, unzip the files, then put them on the disc?
[20:57] <icecream> *years
[20:57] <k1l> !live-usb | akenny52
[20:57] <k1l> !liveusb | akenny52
[20:57] <Jordan_U> akenny52: No. At no point in time should winzip be involed.
[20:58] <k1l> akenny52: download the original ubuntu files from the ubuntu main page.
[20:59] <homegrown> k1l: just realised i'm on 64-bit. that's possibly the problem
[20:59] <icecream> But the dist-upgrade with edited sources.list worked too. Do I really need this update-manager stuff? On Debian it works with sources.list edit too though
[20:59] <Mathias> does the stock ubuntu kernel in 14.04 have iommu etc enabled?
[21:00] <k1l> icecream: debian is not ubuntu. debian doesnt use PPAs for example
[21:00] <icecream> okay
[21:01] <akenny52> its only giving me the option to download as a winzip file from the download site
[21:01] <Pici> akenny52: what is the filetype?
[21:01] <Jordan_U> akenny52: A .iso file is not a "winzip file". Your Windows installation may associate .iso files with winzip, but that's simply a mistake (in my opinion at least).
[21:02] <Jordan_U> Mathias: What is your end goal?
[21:02] <Mathias> Jordan_U: PCI passthrough in kvm
[21:03] <akenny52> ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386 is the file name, and the only file type i can select is winzip.
[21:04] <Jordan_U> Mathias: I believe that's possible with a stock kernel. Are you having any problems getting such a configuration to work?
[21:04] <kirjou> hello, I'm trying to get my wireless card configured for ubuntu. I cannot get it to work. The driver in use is b43-pci-bridge. when i run the command "ifconfig -a" it doesn't show up
[21:04] <Mathias> Jordan_U: yup, i haven't figured out IOMMU yet
[21:04] <jpoole> try iwconfig -a
[21:04] <akenny52> im just going to let it download, then see what to do from there
[21:05] <Jordan_U> akenny52: Why are you downloading the 32 bit image instead of the 64 bit image?
[21:05] <kirjou> no such device
[21:06] <Jordan_U> kirjou: How did you try to configure b43?
[21:07] <akenny52> the computer is from 2005, and i believe that it can't do a 64 bit image
[21:08] <kirjou> I just installed ubuntu, i havn't tried to configure it at all
[21:08] <jpoole> Jordan thanks again, I've got my packer template working now, just not using aptitude at the moment.  When i have some cycles i'll figure out what occured.
[21:08] <kirjou> wired connection works just no wireless
[21:10] <Jordan_U> jpoole: Now that you've updated your kernel, which will have modified your /boot/grub/menu.lst, make a new md5sum of it, and a copy of it for refernce, so that as you keep configuring things you can check when the /boot/grub/menu.lst is being modified, by what, and how.
[21:13] <kirjou> so how do i go about getting my wirless card setup with ubuntu the iwconfig option says no such divice
[21:13] <lawr> OMG its kirjou !!!!!
[21:14] <kirjou> do i know you?? haha
[21:14] <lawr> YEEESSS
[21:14] <lawr> DON'T YOU REMEMBER
[21:14] <Daekdroom> !12.10
[21:16] <UltimateNate> How do i search for a file?
[21:16] <fbdystang> Hi, I am having issues installing from a ppa. I have added the repository but how do I install the actual package?
[21:17] <fbdystang> UltimateNate: are you using the command line?
[21:17] <UltimateNate> I can use both
[21:17] <UltimateNate> pcmafin or whatever its called
[21:17] <UltimateNate> and cmd
[21:18] <lawr> hello UltimateNate
[21:18] <fbdystang> you can just use nautilus and there is a little magnifying glass icon you click on to search for a filename
[21:18] <lawr> UltimateNate: find / -name ''
[21:18] <fbdystang> or "find" from command line
[21:18] <fbdystang> ^^
[21:20] <fbdystang> no love to my question?
[21:21] <OerHeks> fbdystang, open nautilus and select origin
[21:22] <Jordan_U> fbdystang: sudo apt-get install packagename
[21:23] <lino> ciao a tutti
[21:23] <fbdystang> Jordan_U: the little issue is that it has a name already in regular ubuntu: kicad
[21:23] <fbdystang> Jordan_U: https://code.launchpad.net/~js-reynaud/+archive/ppa-kicad
[21:23] <lino> ho appen installato kubuntu
[21:24] <Jordan_U> fbdystang: sudo apt-get install kicad
[21:24] <fbdystang> Jordan_U: so I worry that sudo apt-get install kicad will install the ubuntu version, not the ppa version
[21:24] <lino> non mi funziona la cam sui siti web
[21:25] <lino> qualcuno ha il mi stesso problema?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> !it | lino
[21:25] <fbdystang> Jordan_U: does that make sense or am I off base?
[21:26] <CrowX-> is chrome aura included in ubuntu's package manager by default?
[21:27] <Jordan_U> fbdystang: apt-get by default will install the highest package version from the packages available in all the configured repositories. It's the ppa maintainers' job to make sure their packages' version is higher than that provided in the default repositories.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> CrowX-: Chrome is proprietary and so is not included by default, chromium however is, and I believe it uses the Aura UI.
[21:27] <fbdystang> Jordan_U: props to Jordan_U, you answered my question perfectly :)
[21:35] <PlotCitizen> Hey. This may be a bit irrelevant but I was running out of HDD space and the terminal's command input history got trimmed, and now I can't figure out the command I used in order to backup.
[21:36] <ikonia> back up to what ?
[21:36] <PlotCitizen> To an external HDD on my computer.
[21:36] <PlotCitizen> I was using rsync, and copying the entire filesystem of a machine mounted on localhost:2222 that has rsync installed.
[21:36] <ikonia> rsync /source/path /destination/path works
[21:36] <ikonia> you can add as many options as you want
[21:38] <PlotCitizen> I've tried that when I was first setting it up and it didn't work. I remember having to set quite a bit of complex parameteris in there in order to get it to work. I can go run what you've suggested and see if I can get it to work.
[21:38] <Infant> hello. how to make new nautilus tab open home folder and not current folder? same goes to temrinal?
[21:38] <PlotCitizen> and see what error it gives me, I mean.
[21:39] <Techman> Hello
[21:39] <Techman> I have a question about the geoip-database package
[21:39] <Techman> Is it updated often? (12.04 server)
[21:40] <lmat_> It looks like I'm having trouble with java :(  I have openjdk 7. I just upgraded to 14.04 (from 12.04), and hadn't used it yet.
[21:40] <Techman> Because a friend of mine got hit by a GeoIP gate when his IP was from the netherlands
[21:40] <Techman> When the geoip package said it was from Russia which is wrong
[21:40] <PlotCitizen> ikonia: How would I do that over SFTP? It says "If arg is a remote file/dir, prefix it with a colon (:)."
[21:40] <Barnabas> lmat_, what trouble
[21:40] <Techman> So I'm assuming the package is outdated. Is there any way to get fresh data?
[21:40] <lmat_> When I start Eclipse (a Java application), it runs for a while
[21:40] <lmat_> Then, when I start my web server, apport tells me that java crashed
[21:40] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: rsync -e ssh user@host:/path
[21:41] <Techman> I heard about some contrib package, but I don't know how good it is, nor if that too is updated often
[21:41] <lmat_> (it's Eclipse's java, not the application I'm trying to launch using Eclipse)
[21:41] <Techman> Anyone with knowledge about this would be appreciated.
[21:41] <PlotCitizen> But I want to rsync everything
[21:42] <lmat_> I got this jdk while using 12.04...is it a known issue ? Perhaps I need to reinstall my jdk/jre now that I have 14.04 ?
[21:42] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: right, so adapt what I've given you
[21:43] <Techman> If anyone gets around to helping, please say my nickname
[21:43] <lmat_> Barnabas: You know...it's working better now
[21:43] <Techman> I don't monitor this channel all the time to see responses
[21:43] <lmat_> Barnabas: I'm running a different project. Perhaps there was something (TERRIBLY) wrong with the other project ?
[21:43] <omber> Ahoy, I have 3 md devices, is it a bad idea to run scrub on them at the same time?
[21:44] <cerry> OEP: probably good idea to post the bug, unfortunately this exceeds my horizon by several dimensions ;)
[21:44] <ikonia> omber: no problem, it will just slow them down
[21:44] <Barnabas> lmat_, if theres some complete java meltdown you must have a stacktrace
[21:44] <OEP> me too!
[21:44] <Barnabas> pastemin
[21:44] <omber> ikonia, thank you - as expected then cheers
[21:44] <Barnabas> pastebin
[21:45] <jcabb> Hi!  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  I ran a fsck with sudo touch /forcefsck and went to /var/log/fsck expecting to read a log but there was nothing there. Does ubuntu store the fsck log elsewhere?  Thanks.
[21:46] <cerry> i'll keep an eye on it so if by any chance I get some enlightement I'll let you know - so long all I can do is wish you good luck ;)
[21:47] <lmat_> Barnabas: no stacktrace ^_^
[21:47] <lmat_> Barnabas: Just now, thingns were going pretty well. I used the web application that I started in Eclipse.
[21:47] <Jordan_U> jcabb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/513644 :(
[21:47] <lmat_> Barnabas: Eclipse just *poof* it's gone!!
[21:48] <lmat_> Maybe I'm running low on resources?  ... I'll try to pare down.
[21:48] <PlotCitizen> ikonia: Can't figure out what's wrong with this: http://pastie.org/private/d69ncbaittsjrimok1ogqw
[21:49] <Jordan_U> jcabb: Hopefully this bug will finally be fixed in 14.10 if systemd is used, replacing mountall.
[21:49] <jcabb> Jordan_U, thanks.. thats disappointing. :P
[21:49] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: "no such file or directory"
[21:49] <jcabb> Jordan_U, thanks.
[21:49] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: also don't know why you are quoting ssh -p 2222
[21:49] <Barnabas> lmat_ eclipse is just the ide
[21:50] <PlotCitizen> In the first two I used a double semicolon but accidentally deleted them from the paste.
[21:50] <Barnabas> how do you plan to run your code for real
[21:50] <Voyage> If I have a video file that stats that it has dual audio (in two languages), how do I switch to the other language?
[21:50] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: I also don't know why you are doing root@localhost - when you can just do rsync /path /destination
[21:50] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: why you are are using ssh for a local copy
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Voyage: What player are you using?
[21:51] <PlotCitizen> It's an iPhone, it needs afc2add in order for me to browse the filesystem locally which I refrain from using because it poses a security risk.
[21:51] <Voyage> Jordan_U,  vlc
[21:51] <PlotCitizen> I do have OpenSSH installed however and tunnel it via USB
[21:52] <gareim> Voyage: Right click, go to Audio, change the language
[21:52] <Voyage> hm
[21:52] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: are you trying to backup your iphone or your pc
[21:52] <PlotCitizen> Backup everything on the phone onto a folder located at /Volumes/My\ Passport/iPhone-rsync2/
[21:53] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: so are you running this command rsync on the iphone or the PC
[21:53] <Voyage> gareim,  wow, i didnt knew that it was even possible. so the video file has both audio streams at the same time. its just that one is muted
[21:53] <PlotCitizen> ikonia: Running the command on the computer, but rsync is installed on the iPhone as well although I don't think it's currently running as a daemon
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Voyage: It likely has multiple subtitle tracks embedded in it as well :)
[21:55] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: so rsync -avz -e "ssh -p 2222" root@localhost:/ /volumes/whatever
[21:55] <lmat> Barnabas: yup :)
[21:55] <ikonia> PlotCitizen: or something around that syntax should get it right
[21:55] <PlotCitizen> That does look more like the command I was using before, let me check.
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Voyage: Matroska is a wonderful container format :) (assuming that's what container your video uses)
[21:58] <Voyage> Jordan_U,  how to see subtitles
[21:59] <Voyage> Jordan_U,  its asking for a subtitle file.
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Voyage: Then this video apparently doesn't have subtitles included.
[21:59] <Voyage> k
[21:59] <Voyage> subtitles help/provide what?
[22:00] <Voyage> gareim,  thanks
[22:00] <PlotCitizen> ikonia: It seems to work just like before, thanks :D
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Voyage: Are you asking what subtitles are?
[22:01] <Voyage> am. ya
[22:01] <Voyage> they are like parts of the movie, broken up?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Voyage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtitle_(captioning)
[22:01] <Voyage> thx
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Voyage: You're welcome.
[22:02] <PlotCitizen> Voyage: white letters at the bottom of the screen that say in words what the people are saying in sounds in the video, possibly in another language, or for people who cannot hear well.
[22:02] <Voyage> a textual version of a film or television program's dialogue that appears onscreen
[22:02] <Voyage> PlotCitizen,  thanks
[22:03] <anonymous1010> testing 1,2,3
[22:04] <Voyage> anonymous1010,  try #testing
[22:04] <Jordan_U> anonymous1010: In the future, please use ##test for such things.
[22:04] <anonymous1010> NASA, do we have contact?
[22:04] <lmat> It looks like my java problems are due to libsoup
[22:04] <lmat> I had been launching eclipse with & and not looking at stderr (oops!)
[22:06] <alucardth> hiiiiiiiiii
[22:06] <lmat> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968064   Says I may be using an old eclipse that doesn't support the newest webkit :(
[22:06] <lmat> I guess I'll look at it tomorrow. Gotta go!
[22:06] <lmat> logout
[22:06] <lmat> oops
[22:15] <Laslo7> How do you delete a directory that starts with a dash?  eg. -dir
[22:15] <Slumlord_> rm -rf
[22:15] <Slumlord_> rm -rf filename
[22:15] <k1l_> Laslo7: try to escape that with \-name
[22:15] <Jordan_U> k1l_: That will only escape it for the shell, not for rm.
[22:15] <Jordan_U> Laslo7: rm -r -- -dir/
[22:16] <Pici> -- means: no more arguments
[22:16] <Laslo7> Awesome
[22:16] <Laslo7> That is what I needed
[22:22] <konobi> howdy all, where's the best place to ask about building ubuntu packages using launchpad (and problems there with)
[22:23] <Infant> hello. ubuntu 14.04 nautilus new tab open previuos tab dir but not home. how to fix it? (same goes to terminal
[22:24] <k1l_> konobi: #ubuntu-packaging ?
[22:28] <dukedave> Can someone on 12.04 (all up to date) try and log in to gmail.com with Chromium? Since last restart it's been freezing :|
[22:31] <morph-> can anyone help me out with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7532427/
[22:34] <daftykins> dukedave: try a clean profile
[22:35] <chris__> If I do a make install and then accidentally delete the directory that gets created, how can I fix it so that I can do the installation again?  As it is now, it tells me it can't find the directories like it thinks they should still be there...
[22:36] <daftykins> chris__: compiling from source is *NOT* the Ubuntu way
[22:36] <chris__> daftykins, This is the only way to install this application.
[22:36] <dukedave> daftykins, ooh, with new profile I get a Google talk plugin crash :)
[22:37] <Pici> chris__: You should consider using checkinstall.
[22:37] <daftykins> chris__: start from scratch
[22:37] <daftykins> dukedave: disable it
[22:37] <Jordan_U> chris__: What are you trying to install?
[22:37] <chris__> rtorrent
[22:37] <Pici> rtorrent is in the repositories.
[22:38] <chris__> This is a custom compile
[22:38] <Jordan_U> chris__: What is custom about it?
[22:38] <daftykins> then you cannot gain support from here
[22:38] <dukedave> daftykins, that's it :\
[22:38] <Pici> chris__: You should use checkinstall instead of `make install` so that you can cleanly remove it later.
[22:38] <daftykins> dukedave: hmm?
[22:39] <jhutchins> chris__: Just start over with the tarball.
[22:39] <dukedave> daftykins, disabling the Google talk plugin stops it freezing
[22:39] <jhutchins> chris__: You might want to look into using stow to track what the install does.
[22:39] <daftykins> dukedave: \o/
[22:39] <Jordan_U> chris__: Pici: Even better than checkinstall would be to modify Ubuntu's already packaged rtorrent as needed, "apt-get source rtorrent".
[22:39] <chris__> jhutchins, that's what I'm doing now and it seems to be working.
[22:40] <daftykins> dukedave: from what i've been linked to recently, chrome or chromium is in a sort of 'limbo' state where they're majorly reworking the plugin system, so breakage upon Linux is likely to occur for a good 6+ months
[22:46] <DreamPCs> If I need support for 12.04, do I ask here or is there another more approriate channel.
[22:46] <kobalt> Hello World
[22:46] <Jordan_U> DreamPCs: Here is fine.
[22:47] <Soelen> hello, having an issue after installing ubuntu
[22:47] <Soelen> the superblock could not be read
[22:47] <Soelen> what does that even mean
[22:47] <K0balt> anybody there nows hot to change linux Lubuntu window border theme?
[22:47] <DreamPCs> Ok cool, thank you. I'm going to see if I can reproduce the issue from a liveboot of ubuntu 12.04
[22:47] <DreamPCs> But I just wanted to makre sure, thanks.
[22:48] <gaspyr> test
[22:49] <jhutchins> Soelen: Disk corruption, probably physical failure.
[22:49] <Soelen> jhutchins: impossible, just got new harddisks
[22:49] <jhutchins> Solver: Not at all impossible.  New hard disks are among the most likely to fail.
[22:49] <Jordan_U> !smart | Solver
[22:50] <Soelen> jhutchins: how do I check for possible harddisk failure?
[22:50] <jhutchins> Solver: In any case, the fact remains that the partition is corrupt.  fsck might be able to save it, but you'll probably need to reformat and restore from backup or reinstall.
[22:50] <meowkitty666> k0lbalt: I think this would help :) http://www.maketecheasier.com/theme-up-lubuntu/
[22:50] <Soelen> jhutchins: there is nothing to backup, I just got this message after installing ubuntu
[22:50] <Sonderblade> after upgrading to 14.04, i have a plymouthd process that continually eats 15% cpu, how do you get rid of that?
[22:51] <jhutchins> Soelen: Check the information on smartmontools, do a filesystem check (sudo shutdown -Fr now).
[22:51] <K0balt> how can i let my Lubuntu windows transparets whithout compiz?????????
[22:51] <Soelen> jhutchins: I'm sorry, I'm very new to this whole thing, is smartmantools preinstalled?
[22:51] <jhutchins> Soelen: I don't think so by default.
[22:52] <cerry> K0balt: hej, you might find more help in #lubuntu :)
[22:52] <Jordan_U> K0balt: Why don't you want to use compiz? Also, your '?' key appears to be broken.
[22:52] <K0balt> ok thanks cerry
[22:54] <cerry> K0balt: I also assume you use LXDE so probably there's #lxde as well - couldn't find any info on their webpage though (just a broken web-chat plugin :C )
[22:59] <Soelen> jhutchins: good news, I was able to repair by using mke2fs
[22:59] <Soelen> well check for broken blocks now
[23:10] <Loshki> Soelen: it's not normal for an installation to fail this way. I'm with jhutchins. The disk is suspect. Run smartmontools next...
[23:13] <Soelen> Loshki: okey
[23:13] <Soelen> Loshki: how do I run this
[23:17] <k-joseph> hey, my pc is of good specifications, but it is so slow now days, checking i discouver that all cpus run with normal levels as well as swap but memory levels are so high, tried checking for ways to make  it normal and tried forexample swappines but didn't help, any assistance
[23:17] <daftykins> how much RAM do you have?
[23:18] <ianorlin> what are the specifiaction k-joseph as good chages over time?
[23:18] <gamboo> I'm trying to install a set of packages. dpkg-query shows the packages with a "desired" status of "i" but an actual status of "n". Running apt-get dselect-upgrade results in no packages being installed and no diagnostic output.
[23:18] <Soelen> I need help with smartctl
[23:19] <stockholm_> hi
[23:19] <Soelen> jhutchins: I ran smartctl -H for /dev/sda and sdb and both passed, what does that mean
[23:19] <Soelen> Loshki:
[23:20] <RustyShackleford> i'm getting really poor network performance
[23:20] <RustyShackleford> under windows, it works just fine
[23:20] <k-joseph> ianorlin: 4bg ram, 2.3+ ghz processor speed, 4 cpus(i3)
[23:20] <RustyShackleford> in the past, the fix was to disable some service which caches dns
[23:20] <RustyShackleford> i wish I could remember what it was called
[23:22] <Soelen> I need help with smartctl
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Soelen: What "mke2fs" command did you use to "fix" this problem? Most invocations of mke2fs will lead to wiping all of your data...
[23:23] <ianorlin> k-joseph is there anything you do that you are doing that gets really poor performance web browsing?
[23:23] <Soelen> Jordan_U: what data? I just installed ubuntu
[23:24] <Loshki> Soelen: Something like: sudo apt-get install smartmontools gsmartcontrol, then sudo gsmartcontrol
[23:24] <k-joseph> ianorlin: i do normal browsing, and run heavy java applications too
[23:24] <Jordan_U> Soelen: Well, your root filesystem. So if you're OK with now re-installing Ubuntu then I guess there is no problem with your root filesystem being wiped.
[23:24] <rmoore> anyone familiar with getting the GM45 Intel card to run minecraft?
[23:25] <Soelen> Loshki: both devices has passed the health test
[23:25] <Soelen> Loshki: aka smartctl -H /dev/sda and sdb
[23:25] <ianorlin> hmm browsers sort of keep on bloating ? not sure what to do to get java to run better
[23:25] <Soelen> what does that mean?
[23:25] <rmoore> should i try using an older version of minecraft?
[23:26] <Soelen> Jordan_U: the partiion which I just mounted the home directories
[23:26] <daftykins> rmoore: assuming you have the oracle java installed, you should have the best chance... though this is the OS support, not minecraft support :)
[23:27] <Loshki> Soelen: that's good, but it still doesn't explain why you got superblock read errors in the first place. In your position, I would reinstall the OS and keep nothing on there you can afford to lose if the disk dies suddenly.
[23:27] <rmoore> Sorry to clog this channel up. I asked for help in the minecraft support channel and someone just LOL'd me
[23:27] <linuxuz3r> how do i search for a specific section of a man page
[23:28] <Soelen> Loshki: it's an idea
[23:29] <Guest90210> how to disable pulseaudio
[23:30] <daftykins> you likely don't want to disable pulseaudio, your problem is probably unrelated and you only think you have to disable it
[23:30] <daftykins> so, describe the actual problem and maybe someone can help
[23:30] <Loshki> Soelen: Well it's just good practice. A disk can die at any time, for no apparent reason, sometimes you get a warning, sometimes you don't. And DOAs are on the increase as companies do less QA to keep prices down.
[23:30] <ubuntuaddicted> for some reason i can't set my wallpaper within Xubuntu 14.04 anymore. I used to be able to, right clicking does nothing. i also dont' have any icons on my desktop, can someone help?
[23:30] <Jordan_U> Guest90210: What problem are you trying to solve?
[23:31] <Guest90210> pulseaudio makes cookies
[23:31] <Jordan_U> ubuntuaddicted: Sounds like the default file manager for Xubuntu crashed, those in #xubuntu are more likely to be familiar with this though.
[23:32] <daftykins> why on earth would you disable it then O_O
[23:32] <daftykins> cookies = great
[23:32] <ubuntuaddicted> Jordan_U, thanks, i wasn't aware there was an xubuntu channel
[23:32] <Jordan_U> Guest90210: Could you please rephrase your last comment? I don't understand what you mean.
[23:32] <Jordan_U> ubuntuaddicted: You're welcome.
[23:32] <Bashing-om> linuxuz3r: Maybe like -> man -k <search term> <-??? .
[23:33] <Guest90210> agent.2546
[23:33] <Beldar> Loshki, Can you prove this empirically "And DOAs are on the increase as companies do less QA to keep prices down."
[23:33] <ausjke> updated LTS12.04 from .39 kernel to .41, my virtualbox/win7 stopped working
[23:33] <daftykins> ausjke: virtualbox probably needs its' kernel modules rebuilt, look up their documentation
[23:34] <ausjke> daftykins: i rebuilt them, including those guest modules
[23:34] <ausjke> no help, spent nearly a whole day on this
[23:34] <Ben64> Guest90210: you're going to need to explain things a lot better
[23:34] <daftykins> ausjke: and the errors on tring to start a guest are?
[23:34] <daftykins> ausjke: well in fairness virtualbox support is more relevant here
[23:34] <ausjke> no error, win7 came up, immediately reports its explorer is corrupted, i just reinstalled a new win7, saw the same error, so it's not virus or something
[23:34] <Loshki> Beldar: Actually, no, I can't. It's an impression formed by reading feedback/reviews on Amazon, Newegg and the like. Most product
[23:35] <ausjke> google told me it could be some video driver related issues
[23:35] <ausjke> how can I find the diff between .39 and .41?
[23:35] <Beldar> Loshki, Ah, than not even close to relevant, and actually a biased opinion, please preface those remarks accordingly. ;)
[23:36] <ausjke> well i tried other virtualbox versions and no help either, so I'm betting more on the kernel side
[23:36] <Loshki> Beldar: Oops. Most product reviews seem to average about a 10% complaint rate, depending on the toaster. Anything higher than that gives me pause. You're right, I should've added disclaimers.
[23:36] <Beldar> Loshki, I have done it to. ;)
[23:39] <akenny52> so im trying to start ubuntu. i downloaded ubuntu, which for some reason my computer thought it was a winzip file. i burned that onto a disc, put it into my computer and tried to boot the computer with it. i was given the option to boot from the disc, but then it says the selected boot device not avaiable
[23:39] <Loshki> Beldar: there used to be a site that collected disk reviews in an attempt to get some kind of statistical overview. One problem is that by the time the reviews were in, the models are obsolete. Nothing worse than finding a really reliable drive reported which turns out to be long discontinued. Any sysadmins care to comment on their disk supply quality?
[23:39] <Guest90210> The computer is not used for sound. How is pulseaudio disabled? The attempt to chmod -x pulseaudio did not prevent pulseaudio from booting.
[23:40] <Beldar> Loshki, Yeah, research can lag.
[23:40] <Guest90210> Is agent.2546 on channel?
[23:40] <Ben64> Guest90210: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[23:40] <daftykins> akenny52: what program inside what OS did you burn the .ISO with?
[23:40] <talky_toaster> Ah HA!
[23:40] <Jordan_U> Guest90210: Is having pulseaudio installed actually causing you any problems? Does this machine have a GUI? What is it used for?
[23:40] <daftykins> akenny52: being a winzip file simply means winzip can open and extract files from inside a .ISO file
[23:41] <daftykins> talky_toaster: Red Dwarf fan? :)
[23:42] <Guest90210> sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio is not satisfactory due to dependency injections.
[23:42] <Ben64> Guest90210: well thats the way to disable it
[23:42] <akenny52> daftykins: im using windows 7, and to burn the disc i just moved the file over to the disc, and was prompted to burn the file to the disc
[23:43] <Ben64> akenny52: that is incorrect. you need to burn the iso as a disc image, not as a file
[23:43] <daftykins> akenny52: ah ok so it used the windows image burner
[23:43] <Guest90210> Ben64 the response is appreciated
[23:44] <akenny52> ahhh gotcha. i have daemon tools lite, will that work?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> !burning | akenny52
[23:44] <Soelen> Loshki: thanks a lot for you help loshki, will keep that in mind
[23:44] <Guest90210> Is canonical hiring?
[23:44] <Loshki> Soelen: my pleasure...
[23:45] <Guest90210> We don't always use money properly.
[23:45] <meowkitty666> What is the best app to use to rip CD/DVD to an ISO file
[23:45] <blubadubdub> I use dd
[23:45] <Guest90210> I know a person that can use a paycheck properly.
[23:46] <akenny52> got it, thank you guys
[23:46] <blubadubdub> dd if=/dev/sr0 of=mycd.iso
[23:46] <daftykins> akenny52: that's not an image burner, that's an image mounter. give 'imgburn' a go if you like, it's a free windows image writing program - be warned though, it has some nasty sound effects as default
[23:47] <meowkitty666> Tried using ' dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/name/file.iso ' but I get input/output error
[23:47] <Jordan_U> akenny52: daftykins: Please follow the guide linked to by ubottu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto .
[23:47] <daftykins> meowkitty666: what kind of CD/DVD ?
[23:47] <daftykins> Jordan_U: first hand experience > guides :)
[23:47] <meowkitty666> DVD video
[23:47] <meowkitty666> tried with an audio cd too
[23:48] <Jordan_U> daftykins: That guide doesn't involve nasty sound effects, and I have personal experience with it working as well.
[23:48] <daftykins> meowkitty666: sorry, pretty sure that's against channel policy due to copyright issues. i'm sure there's a tonne of information online
[23:48] <Ben64> meowkitty666: audio cds aren't data, dd will never work on them
[23:48] <meowkitty666> okay sorry . thanks though
[23:48] <Jordan_U> meowkitty666: With an audio CD it's not expected to work. What error message did you get with the video DVD?
[23:48] <daftykins> Jordan_U: ok, surely you recognise my nick as a regular helper also, i don't need highlighting for guides to basic things :)
[23:50] <Jordan_U> daftykins: It was more my trying to ask that after I pointed a user to an official guide that you not present an alternative solution, which I'll admit may be more "ownership" of the support process on my part than is really reasonable.
[23:51] <daftykins> Jordan_U: seems a bit like infighting, dont you think?
[23:51] <destroyallhumans> test
[23:52] <daftykins> yes, you are here