[06:29] <dholbach> good morning
[08:19] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Senior Health & Fitness Day! :-D
[09:07] <justCarakas> Good morning to you 2 JamesTait
[09:13] <nik90_> good morning :)
[09:30] <dpm> oSoMoN, nerochiaro. We've got complete translations for Gallery and Camera in zh_CN ready for the MAE image. These will need new app releases for them to be included. How do I request a new "translations release" from trunk for each one of these apps?
[09:31] <oSoMoN> dpm, have those translations been merged into the respective trunks already?
[09:31] <dpm> oSoMoN, yes, but let me double-check
[09:33] <dpm> oSoMoN, for Camera already in trunk since r275: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/trunk/changes/277?start_revid=277
[09:34] <dpm> oSoMoN, for Gallery in trunk since r987: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/trunk/changes
[09:37] <oSoMoN> dpm, ok, so we need landing requests for the two apps with basically empty MRs, I can take care of that, and once they are released we’ll need someone to upload them to the store
[09:39] <dpm> oSoMoN, excellent, thanks! Do you need me to find someone to do the store uploads after the releases are done?
[09:39] <oSoMoN> dpm, I wouldn’t mind if you could take care of that part, I’ll submit a LR in a min
[09:40] <dpm> oSoMoN, ok, just let me know when the releases are done and I'll ping either Bill or Sergio to do the store uploads (I think they're the ones with permissions)
[09:47] <mihir> Good morning folks :)
[09:55] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: what's the process to request a silo to get the Malta changes in gallery-app and qtmultimedia out there ?
[09:55] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, you need to have MRs ready, reviewed and approved as a prerequisite
[09:56] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, then ask a lander to file a landing request for you (bfiller, boiko or myself)
[10:31] <dpm> Laney, so a while ago I asked you about how to reboot the system to fix a bug in the dualboot app and you showed me how to do it with dbus, and I finally got around to testing it last night. It turns out this works well on the desktop, but it does not work on a device. The dbus .service files to be able to do that are included either in consolekit or systemd-services, none of which are installed on the phone
[11:36] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: if I need to submit changes against a package, should I do that against trusty, trusty-proposed or utopic branches ?
[11:48] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: utopic i suppose, even though that's tricky as i haven't switched yet
[11:49] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, do you mean packaging changes?
[11:49] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i mean an ubuntu-specific patch
[11:49] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: which goes to debian/patches
[11:50] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, well you can’t submit changes to anything that’s in trusty unless it’s a candidate for a SRU
[11:50] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, anything touch-related targets utopic
[11:51] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: this is a change specific for stuff that's desktop-only
[11:51] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: but it has to do with apps that are both touch and desktop
[11:51] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, it doesn’t matter, unless it’s a security bugfix (i.e. candidate for a SRU), it has to target the current devel series, i.e. utopic
[11:52] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, so utopic or utopic-proposed branch ?
[11:53] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I’d say utopic
[11:53] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: cool, thanks
[12:20] <mihir> popey: when you get time , could  you test this on device , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1297739/+merge/221109?
[12:46] <Laney> dpm: sure they are
[12:47] <Laney> dpm: you can't try it over ssh though
[12:47] <Laney> make a script and call it from the terminal app
[12:47] <Laney> gdbus call --system -d org.freedesktop.login1 -o /org/freedesktop/login1 -m org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.Reboot false
[12:47]  * Laney has just done this on the phone
[12:52] <dpm> Laney, I didn't trit with gdbus, but directly from code in a C++ plugin, using Qt Creator. When running this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7536379/ I got a reply along the lines "there are no .service files that provide this interface". But as the copy of the code to the phone is done over SSH with Qt Creator, I guess that's the issue? So probably if I just click-package the app and install it, it'll work?
[12:52] <Laney> dpm: We don't have consolekit
[12:53] <dpm> Laney, ah, sorry, that was me trying something else. I did try it with login1 in the first run
[12:53] <Laney> I'd try to build a minimal binary and run that from the terminal app
[12:54] <dpm> so http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7536402/ is what I initially tried
[12:58] <dpm> Laney, thanks, I'll give it a shot this evening. Another thing I realized is that this will help with rebooting into Android for dual boot, but I still don't know how to properly do a '/system/bin/reboot recovery' to reboot into Ubuntu, I didn't see how I could do this over Dbus. Do you happen to have any ideas?
[13:05] <Laney> dpm: Ah, that bug is because you need to use the system bus
[13:06] <Laney> dpm: I don't know anything about this recovery thing :(
[13:08] <mihir> dpm: ping !!
[13:16] <nik90_> ahayzen: are you okay with 12:00 tomorrow for the meeting?
[13:17] <ahayzen> nik90_, i should be but tht is the same time as the normal music-app-dev meeting :/
[13:17] <nik90_> ahayzen: lol
[13:17] <nik90_> ahayzen: what about 11:00 AM then?
[13:18] <nik90_> or is that too early for you
[13:18] <ahayzen> nik90_, ah hang on are you saying UTC or BST?
[13:18] <nik90_> ahayzen: UTC
[13:18] <ahayzen> nik90_, soo...yeah 1200UTC will be 1300 BST thts cool :)
[13:19] <nik90_> ahayzen: good lord I hate timezones (the irony)
[13:19] <ahayzen> nik90_, same lol why can't everyone stick with GMT ;)
[13:19] <nik90_> ahayzen: ok so 12:00 UTC it is...
[13:19] <ahayzen> \o/
[13:19] <nik90_> ahayzen: hehe
[13:20] <ahayzen> nik90_, nearly finished my blog post lol
[13:20] <nik90_> ahayzen: sending a mail to the core apps ML
[13:20] <ahayzen> nik90_, got massive writers block and fell asleep last night
[13:20] <nik90_> ahayzen: how the hell did I finish before you
[13:20] <ahayzen> nik90_, i died on my bed then was woken by the cleaners :/
[13:21] <dpm> Laney, ah, good catch with the system bus
[13:21] <dpm> hi mihir
[13:21] <nik90_> ahayzen: lol
[13:25] <nik90_> pmcgowan, bfiller: Good morning :)
[13:26] <pmcgowan> hey nik90_
[13:26] <bfiller> nik90_: hi
[13:30] <frecel> dpm: hi
[13:30] <frecel> dpm: how do I use my phone with the SDK now that the devices tab is all about the emulators?
[13:31] <dpm> hi frecel, the emulators are just a device as your phone, there shouldn't be any difference
[13:31] <dpm> so if you plug your phone, Qt Creator will use that as the device afaik, right zbenjamin?
[13:32] <frecel> oh ok, so another problem then is the fact that I get an error about some process running in the background and absolutely nothing useful about it in the log
[13:34] <dholbach> mhall119, there was a bug report about giving the "developer-portal" and the "ubuntu-developerportal" projects in LP more distinctive names
[13:34] <dholbach> mhall119, with infrastructure converging, do you think we could take a look at doing that again?
[13:34] <dholbach> mhall119, maybe use developerportal-content or some such?
[13:35] <dholbach> it's not a huge issue, but for some reason I just thought o fit
[13:35] <dholbach> of it
[13:37] <mihir> dpm: this is how you talking about , http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7536648/ for localization ?
[13:38] <dpm> mihir, exactly
[13:39] <mihir> dpm: but this is not returning me in two letters, i meant like Su,Mo,Tu. any idea how can we achieve this ?
[13:39] <dpm> mihir, what does it return?
[13:39] <mihir> Mon,Tue
[13:39] <mihir> and I feel , it is too much for showing in checkbox and it will eat up lot of space
[13:42] <dpm> mihir, how are the textboxes shown? Next to each other? Do you have a screenshot?
[13:44] <mihir> dpm: they are checkboxes, http://imgur.com/3ciVUTU
[13:44] <mihir> if you suggest to have three letters week Day i'll go ahead and push the changes.
[13:51] <dpm> mihir, I'd use 3 letters, and if there isn't enough space, I'd use two lines: the first one for "Repeats on:", and the second one for the days
[13:51] <mhall119> dholbach: a -content project might be good, or we can convert the existing WP project to that name
[13:51] <dholbach> mhall119, yes, I think I'd just do the latter
[13:51] <dholbach> mhall119, and have developerportal{,-content} or something along those lines
[13:52] <mihir> dpm: okay I'll do that.
[13:52] <dpm> great, thanks!
[13:53] <mihir> dpm: i'll try to get it in one row, if it doesn't work then will go with two rows.
[13:53] <Ashwin> Cannot create CordovaView object. Falling back on the plain Webview backend. Inspector server started successfully. Try pointing a WebKit browser to http://172.132.45.159:9221 QOpenGLShaderProgram: could not create shader program  QOpenGLShader: could not create shader  QSGMaterialShader: Shader compilation failed: ""  QOpenGLShaderProgram::uniformLocation( matrix ): shader program is not linked  QOpenGLShaderProgram::unif
[13:54] <Ashwin> I'm getting this error when I try to run an app
[13:54] <Ashwin> It's a HTML based app
[13:55] <t1mp> mihir, dpm or a multivalue optionselector? http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.OptionSelector/#multiSelection-prop
[13:55] <t1mp> whatever you like.. perhaps the checkboxes are better in this case
[13:56] <mihir> hmm t1mp yup , that looks more convienent to users i feel
[13:56] <mihir> this*
[14:00] <ahayzen> nik90_, +1 on the coreapps mail :)
[14:01] <nik90_> ahayzen: thnx. I hope I dint miss anything
[14:01] <ahayzen> nik90_, nope don't think so looks good :)
[14:03] <dpm> t1mp, bzoltan, so I wanted to look at what the multivalue option selector looks like, and it seems we're no longer shipping the showcase gallery?
[14:03] <dpm> I've only got the HTML5 component gallery on my system now
[14:04] <bzoltan> dpm:  I am positive that we are shipping it
[14:04] <t1mp> dpm: in a meeting now, questions can go in #ubuntu-on-air ;)
[14:05] <bzoltan> dpm: ubuntu-ui-toolkit-examples
[14:05] <dpm> bzoltan, ah, wait, it might be because I installed some packages from a silo to test the i18n fix, and it ended up with a broken -examples package
[14:05] <daker> Ashwin: what are you doing there ?
[14:05] <bzoltan> dpm:  yes, there must be an upgrade issue
[14:10] <t1mp> dpm: it is part of ubuntu-ui-toolkit-examples
[14:10] <t1mp> ah bzoltan was faster :)
[14:16] <dpm> :)
[14:18] <ahayzen> nik90_, https://plus.google.com/u/0/114266526651378562082/posts/6d75rA7pf7W
[14:18]  * ahayzen hides
[14:18] <nik90_> hehe
[14:19] <ahayzen> nik90_, probably loads of spelling/grammar errors lol
[14:19] <nik90_> ahayzen: not to worry, I made tons of them as well
[14:20] <ahayzen> nik90_, yey ... no wonder we doing programming :P
[14:20] <bzoltan> nik90: I am doing the release test for the latest UITK and I see a strange failure with the clock app
[14:20] <nik90_> +1
[14:20] <t1mp> nik90_: awesome blog post :)
[14:20] <nik90_> t1mp: thnx.
[14:20] <nik90_> bzoltan: you have a log?
[14:21] <bzoltan> nik90_: Yes, the error line is this: "ERROR: ubuntu_clock_app.tests.test_clock.TestClock.test_add_city_button_must_add_world_city" I will pastbin the longer version
[14:21] <nik90_> ok
[14:22] <bzoltan> nik90_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7536882/
[14:23] <nik90_> bzoltan: hmm..is it a consistent failure? From the log, it seems that the newly added world city is not being detected by AP.
[14:24] <bzoltan> nik90_:  I have never seen this failure before
[14:25] <nik90_> bzoltan: can you run the tests again? I have seen it rarely before, but have not being able to reproduce it locally.
[14:25] <bzoltan> nik90_:  sure I can do... I still have 3-4 hours tests to run and after that I will re-run the failing tests.
[14:26] <nik90_> bzoltan: ok. I think it might have been a timing issue and not related to the UITK update
[14:27] <bzoltan> nik90_: that was my speculation too :) but we better check it to be safe
[14:28] <nik90_> true
[14:30] <t1mp> nik90_: even better to get rid of the timing issues so we don't need to check again next time :)
[14:31] <nik90_> t1mp: agreed. I will take a look at it.
[14:31] <t1mp> thanks!
[14:32] <t1mp> maybe elopio can give some tips how to avoid timing problems
[14:33] <nik90_> t1mp: yeah I worked with him on the tests. But this is something that happened 1 out of 20 AP test runs, so it is a bit difficult to pinpoint where the timing issue lies.
[15:36] <kalikiana> t1mp: the script I mentioned https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/pushToPhone/+merge/221260
[15:38] <elopio> ping renato_, please remember my branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/address-book-app/refactoring_tests1
[16:16] <kalikiana> t1mp: bzoltan [Ubuntu-phone] ANNOUNCING: New phablet-shell tool. ← awesome!
[16:16] <bzoltan> kalikiana:  it is cool indeed
[16:58] <AskUbuntu> Can the c++ api be used to develop scopes for Unity 7? | http://askubuntu.com/q/473546
[18:33] <FellLnux> H !
[18:33] <FellLnux> Hello
[18:34] <FellLnux> ?
[20:47] <daker> hi t1mp
[20:48] <daker> t1mp: what will happen when you combine tabs with pagestack ?
[21:13] <t1mp> daker: you can push Tabs as the first thing on a PageStack. That will then show the tabs drawer in the header.
[21:13] <t1mp> daker: and if you push other Pages afterwards, you get the back button to return to the tabs
[21:14] <t1mp> daker: other combinations (for example pagestack inside tabs, tabs on top of a pagestack) are not supported, and are discouraged by design
[21:15] <daker> t1mp: ok, do you have the code of the demo you did show last week ?
[21:16] <t1mp> yes, sec
[21:17] <t1mp> daker: it is in the lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit bzr repository, see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/tests/resources/toolbar/header.qml
[21:18] <t1mp> daker: if app developers want to combine tabs and pagestack, they can use Tabs.selectedTabIndex and PageStack.pop() in their code to navigate
[21:19] <daker> t1mp: so here you can have tabs inside a pagestack ?
[21:19] <t1mp> daker: yes, but only as the first item that is pushed on the pagestack
[21:20] <t1mp> because then you don't need a back button
[21:20] <t1mp> when you push something else on top of the tabs, you get the back button to return to the tabs
[21:21] <daker> i see
[21:22] <daker> the actions bar needs to show only two icons ? if there is more than two display the first icon + the dropdown menu icon ?
[21:23] <t1mp> yes, that is the case when you have a back/tabs button on the left
[21:23] <t1mp> if there is no button on the left, then the actions bar can show 3 icons or 2 icons + dropdown menu
[21:24] <t1mp> daker: there is an extensive explanation here http://design.canonical.com/2014/03/new-apps-header/
[21:24] <daker> t1mp: ok
[21:25] <t1mp> the icon for the dropdown menu and the dropdown menu itself should get new visuals soon
[21:25] <t1mp> I don't have them yet, but I have seen videos from design how it should look
[21:26] <daker> t1mp: share :) i saw them too
[21:27] <t1mp> I don't have them, I saw them last week in Malta
[21:27] <t1mp> I have to finish some other stuff before I can work on that
[21:27] <t1mp> jounih should have them. I don't know when he will be around since tomorrow is a holiday in many places
[21:28] <daker> ok
[21:29] <gerlowskija> Has anyone seen this warning/message when running core apps through the SDK: " Could not determine application identifier. HUD will not work properly.
[21:29] <gerlowskija>  Provide your application identifier in $APP_ID environment variable."
[21:30] <t1mp> gerlowskija: yes, I always get that when I run an app on desktop
[21:30] <daker> gerlowskija: just ignore that message
[21:31] <gerlowskija> t1mp: daker: That's what I figured, the app seems to start up fine.  So it doesn't affect anything?
[21:31] <daker> gerlowskija: no that's for the HUD
[21:32] <t1mp> gerlowskija: no, it doesn't affect anything.
[21:32] <t1mp> I think we should disable that message
[21:35] <gerlowskija> Ok, just checking I didn't have environment problems.  Thanks for the sanity check!
[22:07] <rpadovani> daker, sorry for the late, but if you want a 'real' example of pagestack inside tabs with new header: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/newHeader
[22:07] <rpadovani> you have to resize the app in phone mode
[22:07] <rpadovani> (just set a less width)
[22:07] <daker> ok thanks :)
[22:08] <rpadovani> and please leave a comment in the MR if something is broken :-)
[22:14] <t1mp> rpadovani: ahh I just got an update for reminders-app and it works now :) (I had problems with the account before)
[22:14] <rpadovani> yeah \o/
[22:14] <t1mp> rpadovani: I am working on search boxes in the new header :) maybe that will be interesting for your app too
[22:15] <rpadovani> t1mp, yes, sure, now there is an icon, it would be beatiful!
[22:16] <t1mp> rpadovani: https://www.dropbox.com/s/n3e60vwnu929ybn/Screenshot%202014-05-29%2000.16.13.png
[22:16] <t1mp> rpadovani: I am still prototyping, to figure out which API works best
[22:28] <nik90_> mhall119, popey: Who do I contact to host a hangout through ubuntu-on-air?
[22:28] <popey> nik90_: jose
[22:29] <nik90_> popey: thnx. Was making sure I contacted the right person.
[22:30] <nik90_> t1mp: wow it looks so awesome
[22:31] <t1mp> nik90_: :)
[22:31] <t1mp> nik90_: the branch is here in case you want to try it out - https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/110-headerInput
[22:31] <t1mp> nik90_: but beware that probably the API is going to change, I'm just testing now
[22:31] <nik90_> t1mp: hell yeah..will try it out tomorrow morning
[22:32] <t1mp> :)
[22:33]  * t1mp off now. Good night everyone
[23:45] <fdafweaf> Hi I've got a question about feedback I got submitting an app to the app store
[23:46] <fdafweaf> Where do I put the app icon?
[23:46] <fdafweaf> http://askubuntu.com/questions/417369/what-does-desktop-icon-mean/417370 doesn't specify
[23:46] <fdafweaf> popey, you're the one who answered the question, could you clarify it?
[23:47] <fdafweaf> Specifically Agmenor's request for clarification
[23:58] <popey> fdafweaf: hi
[23:58] <popey> just put the icon in the root directory of your app
[23:58] <fdafweaf> Ok
[23:58] <fdafweaf> Thanks
[23:58] <popey> and set Icon=foo.png
[23:58] <popey> e.g. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/bbcnewswebapp/view/head:/bbcnews.desktop