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ruben23 How do I remove a specific extension from a directory..? sample directory have 10K wav file adn 5K .mp3 files i want to remove the .wav files only..? any idea..?02:22
jyferm /dir/*.wav \OR\ cd dir && rm *.wav ?02:27
Picifind /path/ -iname "*.wav" -delete   (will do it recursively)02:28
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TohshHaving an issue with a fresh install of 14.04 server. Boot will freeze during adding swap. Will boot fine with "nomodeset" on kernel in grub. Verified UUID's match in /etc/fstab and blkid. Have not experienced this issue with any builds in the last few years. Any idea?04:48
jonascjHi all. What is the difference between the php5-mysql and php5-mysqlnd package? Both claim to provide the php mysql bindings?05:05
OpenTokixjonascj: The mysqlnd library is highly optimized for and tightly integrated into PHP. The MySQL Client Library cannot offer the same optimizations because it is a general-purpose client library.05:09
dw1http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/php-mysqlnd/05:11
jonascjOpenTokix: thanks, but I do not understand. All references indicate that mysql-server and mysql-client should be installed alongside both php5-mysql and php5-mysqlnd. So they both rely on anothe rinstallation of the mysql server and client, don't they?05:13
jonascj*another installation05:14
OpenTokixjonascj: "all references" beeing howtos on random webpages that you copy and paste from?05:14
jonascjOpenTokix: no, I am actually stopping and thinking, otherwise I would have installed both. I wonder why some suggest one package and others the other package05:16
OpenTokixjonascj: the thing is the mysqlnd is pretty new, so I am guessing the bulk of guides talking about php and mysql is pretty old.05:16
jonascj2http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/php/php5-mysqlnd05:17
jonascjvs http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/php5-mysql05:17
OpenTokixjonascj: I would go with the native driver, since it is recommended from the mysql docs05:17
jonascjmore or less the only thing setting those two pages apart is "native"05:19
jonascjbut why a native driver? I thought the idea was to go cleanly through well defined sql interfaces.05:19
jonascjOpenTokix: thanks, I'll read mysql's own statement05:19
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Gaba1hello, can someone please lend a hand? I am having issues post installation07:43
sarnoldGaba1: hello ;irc tends to work best if uou jst ask questions :)07:44
Gaba1ok thanks07:44
cfhowlett!details07:44
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)07:44
Gaba1I used yumi to put ubuntu server onto a flash drive and then installed (completely) onto my PC and once I rebooted I just get a little white curser blinking at me07:47
Gaba1then I repeated the process and the same thing happened again07:48
Gaba1I then tried to use the check for errors function and I just got a screan that blinked white and black and I decided to turn my computer off before I began to seize07:48
Gaba1!I am now running Ubuntu 12.04 off of another flash drive. memory is 7.8Gig.08:17
ubottuGaba1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:17
Gaba1!processor is AMD phenom 8750. OS is 64 bit08:17
sarnoldGaba1: so a 'live image' works okay but installing it doesn't work?08:18
Gaba1I am running a live version of ubuntu 12.04, but I am attempting to instal ubuntu server08:18
Gaba1my ultimate goal is to run a minecraft server on that computer, but it was lagging using windows08:20
Gaba1I am now installing ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and it recognizes that I have installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS (which I assume is the server I was trying to instal). I am splitting my partition in half for both to be installed at the same time08:26
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LeMikeHello. How can I see how much physical space is given on the drive and how much is mounted? Like "Disk Size: 200G, /dev/sda1 begin 1024M end 150G" or something like that10:10
sarnoldLeMike: 'df' will show you which filesystems are mounted and how much space they have; fdisk -l will show you partition table information10:12
LeMikeoh yee. `fdisk -l` ... i need coffee. sorry! but thanks sarnold :)10:14
sarnoldLeMike: have fun :)10:14
stethoHi all. Is there a correct/clever way to install packages from one release in to a lower numbered release - trusty and precise to be exact?10:15
sarnoldstetho: check out 'package pinning', that might do what you want10:15
stethosarnold: I always thought pinning was the other direction (new releases, old packages) but after reading PinningHowTo it looks exactly what I need - thanks10:31
sarnoldstetho: with the usual caveat that the packages weren't tested for that and wreen't intended for that :)10:32
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sarnoldjamespage: we'd like to demote chkrootkit from main; any comments? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chkrootkit/+bug/1324111  thanks12:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1324111 in chkrootkit "please remove chkrootkit from main" [Undecided,New]12:52
smoserDaviey, didn't you enable nested virt in 12.04 ?13:07
phunyguy\o/13:42
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sync0pateanyone in here know much about UK data protection?14:52
sarnoldsync0pate: I have this url :) http://www.ico.org.uk/news/latest_news/2013/~/media/documents/library/Data_Protection/Detailed_specialist_guides/p14:53
sarnoldrivacy-in-mobile-apps-dp-guidance.pdf14:53
TJ-sync0pate: There is none; apply to GCHQ for everything you need :p14:54
sync0pateI've got a client who is convinced that:14:54
sync0patea) shared hosting or vps is not secure enough to meet their data protection requirements14:55
sync0pateb) they do not have the expertise or budget to host anything in-house14:55
sync0pateI don't know what other options they could possibly have14:55
sync0pateand I'm not convinced they're right on either count14:55
TJ-sync0pate: Depending on the confidentiality of the data, then yes, a) makes perfect sense14:56
sync0patebut what options does it leave them with?14:57
Meerkatget out of the UK.14:57
TJ-sync0pate: Depending on how it is operated and protected physically, dedicated servers might be a solution14:57
sync0patewell they're not legally allowed to transfer the data out of the UK either14:57
sarnoldamazon may have proper certifications to placate "cloud isn't safe enough"14:58
sync0pateand they've said they can't afford a dedi :\14:58
sync0patethey're already e-mailing this data back and forth without any security :\14:58
rbasakSounds like you have a sales or customer service issue there.14:58
TJ-sync0pate: advise then withdraw, it sounds like the typical scenario where the consultant gets the blame later14:59
sync0pateTJ-, yeah14:59
sync0patethat's what I'm leaning towards14:59
TJ-sync0pate: my experience has been the cheapest clients cause the most agro14:59
sync0pateit's just I've been brought into this by a friend, so I'm keen to help if I can14:59
sync0patebut14:59
sync0pateyeah you know15:00
sync0pateyou're right15:00
sync0pateif they can't afford a dedi, how are they affording my invoice?15:00
dasjoesync0pate: there are encrypted cloud solutions, maybe something like that'd work?15:00
TJ-sync0pate: So, honour your intentions by providing them a 'no liability' free report, then explain why you have to withdraw if your advice is ignored15:00
sync0patethanks, I appreciate the advice15:00
TJ-dasjoe: Even with encrypted cloud, once the data is in memory it's rarely encrypted and out of control of the customer15:01
sync0pateI'm not even allowed to mention the word "cloud"15:01
sync0patethe irony is this is a system intended to share information...15:01
sync0patewith other organisations15:02
dasjoeTJ-: the idea is to never transfer unencrypted data into the "cloud" and for encryption keys to stay on the clients' computers15:02
TJ-sync0pate: I hate that euphemism, but it seems to have taken over. It's simply using someone else's servers to run your core operations in most cases15:02
sync0patedasjoe .. that's an interesting idea..15:02
sync0pateI didn't even think of that15:02
TJ-dasjoe: But I think sync0pate point is, they need to process the data 'in the cloud', too, not just store it.15:02
sync0patewell.. TJ- , yeah.. to an extent15:03
sync0patebut15:03
sync0patehmm15:03
sync0pateit might be part of the solution15:03
sync0pateI could maybe convince them to do the data-processing in-house15:03
sync0pateand then anything that needs to be shared can be end-to-end encrypted15:03
dasjoeTJ-: Well, it wouldn't be possible to process data "in the cloud", no. That's why I like it so much ;)15:04
TJ-sync0pate: In which case it'd be cheaper to store it in-house too, surely, only sharing on an as-required basis and encrypting any shared data to the recipients public key15:04
sync0pateTJ-, yeah, that makes more sense to me too15:04
sync0patebut they don't want incoming connections to their network15:04
sync0pateso maybe it could be in-house and locked off15:05
sync0pateand then upload the data that needs sharing15:05
sync0pateencrypted with the recipient key, like you say15:05
TJ-sync0pate: What *do* they want? access by 'client's to a sub-set of their data ?15:05
sync0pateyeah15:05
sync0pateexactly that15:05
TJ-sync0pate: If the 'client' requests are not high-volume then why not a mail auto-responder that simply takes well-formatted emailed requests to a named@domain.tld mailbox, uses the locally pre-shared public key of that client together with the locally stored pre-shared return email address, encrypts the requested data, and uses 'sendmail' to send it ?15:07
TJ-sync0pate: Those well-formatted emails could be generated by a shared-hosting web-form15:07
sync0pateit's even simpler than that15:09
sync0patethe client doesn't even request the information15:09
sync0patethey are sent it15:09
TJ-sync0pate: sorted then... provided they use the pre-shared keys and email addresses15:12
sync0patewell15:12
sync0pateit's still a battle to convince them to host in-house15:12
sync0patethey already have an in-house network, that is already secured15:13
sync0patedoes adding another server add any security risk?15:13
sync0pateif it's a fully-internal server?15:13
TJ-Maybe point out how insecure their secured network is, by emailing (unencrypted) from the secure side15:13
sync0patewell that's why I'm getting annoyed15:14
sync0pateI can understand the security requirements15:14
sync0patebut everything they do now is nowhere near secure15:14
dasjoehah, sounds like a job from hell, I don't think I'd do it15:14
sync0pateand this is only a small part of their business15:14
TJ-sync0pate: Maybe you need to provide a quick "security 101" lesson15:14
sync0pateam I wrong about that part though15:16
sync0pateif they have an already secured network15:16
sync0pateadding an internal server to it, assuming that is also secured and patched and etc15:16
sync0pateisn't introducing a security risk, is it?15:16
TJ-sync0pate: Well, technically, any addition expands the exposure risk, but in practice, you're correct15:18
TJ-sync0pate: It sounds to me like they don't even need a new server, just an additional service on an existing system15:19
sync0patewell exactly15:19
sync0patethey just need a DB15:19
sync0pateinternally15:19
sync0patethat occasionally sends out encrypted data "somehow"15:19
sync0pateanyway, cheers for that15:20
sync0pateI've got a meeting with them next week15:20
sync0pateI think I need to stress to them that there are lots of other ways to achieve what they want without security issues15:21
sync0pateand more importantly15:21
sync0pateeverything they do currently is insecure15:21
TJ-sync0pate: And make sure to bracket each potential solution with its capital and ongoing costs15:22
sync0pateabsolutely15:22
sync0patethe whole thing is a fucking mess for a ton of other reasons15:22
sync0patethe person I'm dealing with, who is in charge of procuring the solution..15:23
sync0patedoesn't actually know the ongoing budget15:23
sync0pateso all this "that won't be affordable" is utterly speculative15:23
sync0pateI need to stop accepting work leads from friends15:24
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OverandAnyone have any ideas of a 'web interface for web hosting' - not designed for 'end users' but for fairly tech sasavy people - that will handle making apache virtual hosts, perhaps mySQL databases, etc- but is fairly integrated, and also does *not* conflict with creating or editing your config files yourself?16:00
OverandSomething a bit like ISPConfig or t hat sort of thing?16:00
Overand(WHich I don't know if lets us edit config files manually as well)16:00
[lutchy]Overand, Webmin ?16:05
rbasak!webmin16:06
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.16:06
* rbasak knows no more about it.16:06
[lutchy]You can install it independently16:06
sarnoldI hear webmin is a good worm vector16:06
rbasakI think the general issue is that a large number of tech savvy people who could write such a thing would choose not to use it, so it doesn't happen.16:07
rbasakFor a paid equivalent, there's cpanel.16:07
[lutchy]I have it installed here on all my Ubuntu installations using Webmin repo. My public servers have Webmin blocked for security reasons16:07
sarnoldalso a good worm vector..16:07
[lutchy]Well, use whatever you like that works for you... You can even go ahead and create you 'Web Interface System' or OPT for Server Appliance that has integrated 'Web Interface'16:09
* patdk-wk created his own16:10
patdk-wktoo many crappy php stuff, with horrible md5 passwords16:10
* [lutchy] plan to create a Web Interface of his own (huge project)16:11
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jbwivguys, when you log into an ubuntu server, it tells you the number of packages which can be upgraded and how many of these are security upgrades. anyone know how to manually do this at the command line?18:07
hadifarnoudI installed mongodb with apt-get install mongodb18:09
hadifarnoudit did install something. but composer still complains18:09
dasjoejbwiv: /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available18:15
dasjoejbwiv: Actually, that file calls "/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable"18:22
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jbwivdasjoe: great...thanks!18:44
pakcjoHello, I just upgrade to 12 and I think I got into this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/100385419:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1003854 in openldap "Database upgrade/migration fails with nested db directories (lucid to precise)" [Medium,Confirmed]19:32
pakcjoi have no idea how to recover19:32
pakcjohow can I test slapd???19:38
pakcjocan someone help me?19:41
pakcjoI added accesslog to /var/lib/ldap/19:42
pakcjoslapd started but it doesn't seem to have anything19:42
pakcjohow can I recover?19:42
cwillu_at_workwhat package is responsible for generating /etc/nsswitch.conf?19:45
cwillu_at_workdpkg-query -S /etc/nsswitch.conf doesn't list anything19:45
pakcjoI really could use some help right now...19:46
Picicwillu_at_work: I'd guess either libc-bin or base-files.  Both contain an nsswitch.conf file, and could be likely candidates.19:46
cwillu_at_workPici, thanks19:46
sarnoldpakcjo: check #ubuntu-server channel logs, I think I saw someone else mention this before, no idea if I ever saw a resolution.19:47
cwillu_at_workPici, where do you see that they contain that?  dpkg -L doesn't show that, but maybe it's generated in a post-install script or some such?19:48
Picicwillu_at_work: I did: dpkg -S nsswitch.conf, and also looked at the nsswitch.conf manpage.19:49
cwillu_at_workah, yes, there's a psotinst19:49
pakcjosarnold: where are the logs?19:49
sarnoldpakcjo: irclogs.ubuntu.com19:50
pakcjosarnold: thanks19:50
sarnoldpakcjo: good luck, sleep time here19:50
pakcjooh no search... dan19:50
RobCWDudleyHey folks, is it possible to configure an FTPd (say VSFTPd) to allow multiple users to access the same directory (/var/www) and have file ownership sorted so web server can read and users can modify / delete?19:50
Patrickdkit's called, group permissions19:53
Patrickdkor, go crazy nuts, and use acl's19:53
Patrickdkbut ftp doesn't do acl's19:53
RobCWDudleyPatrickdk: ok so owner remains as user that uploads, group it www-data and that should just work?19:54
pakcjoI'm going crazy, I need ldap running19:55
pakcjothat bug was reported on 2012 and it still present... WTF guys19:56
pmatulis_pakcjo: how big is your data/database?  possibly install a test 12.04 vm and import the db to see if that works20:14
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pakcjopmatulis: shouldn't be that big...20:15
pakcjopmatulis: but that's not the case, I upgrade and ended up in this state...20:15
pmatulispakcjo: sure but it can help you get back the original install by comparing20:16
pmatulispakcjo: what errors do you see in the logs?20:16
pakcjoslapd shows as iF ... So, there's what seems to be my bug in that page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/1003854 but how can I recover?20:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1003854 in openldap "Database upgrade/migration fails with nested db directories (lucid to precise)" [Medium,Confirmed]20:16
pakcjoit was the same as the log, what I did was to create /var/lib/ldap/accesslog and it started20:16
pakcjobut doesn't seem to be stable and package is still in iF state... how can I resolve that?20:17
pmatulispakcjo: ah, so slapd is up again?20:17
pakcjocomment #5 suggested something but after modifying it, I don't know what else to do20:17
pakcjopmatulis: yes, but not in a good state, kerberos can't connect to it20:18
pakcjoiF  slapd                                2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4.4                 OpenLDAP server (slapd)20:19
pakcjohow can I fix that... it's in iF state...20:19
pakcjoi need like to reinstall it but using the modified scripts and not the ones from the package (which seems to be broken since 2012)20:19
pmatulispakcjo: not sure what 'iF' is.  not 'if'?20:19
pakcjodpkg -l | grep slapd20:20
pakcjoshows "iF"20:20
pmatulisok, i see the output20:20
pakcjoI tried to ask about this in #debian but they are sure that slapd upgrade is not broken there...20:21
pakcjoso I have a half installed slapd or whatever, and the data is (probably) all wrong20:21
pakcjoso, what can I do?20:22
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pmatulispakcjo: it would be great to know what 'iF' means.  everywhere i look does not mention 'F'20:23
pmatulispakcjo: did you check the dist-upgrade logs?20:23
pakcjopmatulis: where can I find them?20:24
pmatulispakcjo: /var/log/apt/dist-upgrade , something like that20:24
pakcjo2014-05-28 20:43:04 status half-configured slapd 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4.20:24
pmatulisit's normal to have lines like that.  keep looking.  /var/log/dist-upgrade20:25
pakcjoscreenlog.0:  Backing up /etc/ldap/slapd.d in /var/backups/slapd-2.4.21-0ubuntu5.5... done.20:26
pakcjoscreenlog.0:  Loading from /var/backups/slapd-2.4.21-0ubuntu5.5:20:26
pakcjoscreenlog.0:dpkg: error processing slapd (--configure):20:26
pakcjoscreenlog.0: slapd20:26
pmatulispakcjo: were you using the old-style config system with slapd.conf?20:27
pakcjoscreenlog.0:Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/slapd ...20:27
pakcjoscreenlog.0:  Backing up /etc/ldap/slapd.d in /var/backups/slapd-2.4.21-0ubuntu5.5... done.20:27
pakcjoscreenlog.0:  Loading from /var/backups/slapd-2.4.21-0ubuntu5.5:20:27
pakcjoscreenlog.0:dpkg: error processing slapd (--configure):20:27
pakcjoscreenlog.0: slapd20:27
pakcjopmatulis: no that I know, but it sounds to me that this is the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/100385420:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1003854 in openldap "Database upgrade/migration fails with nested db directories (lucid to precise)" [Medium,Confirmed]20:28
pmatulisit looks like you were (/etc/ldap/slapd.d) but can you confirm you were not using slapd.conf?20:28
pmatulis(if it's running now what does 'ps ax | grep slapd' show?)20:29
pakcjopmatulis: yes20:29
pakcjo/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// ldapi:/// -g openldap -u openldap -F /etc/ldap/slapd.d20:29
pmatulisok20:29
pakcjo# dpkg-reconfigure slapd                                                         /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: slapd is broken or not fully installed20:31
pakcjoshould I force it?20:31
pmatulispakcjo: and you were indeed using nested databases?20:31
pakcjopmatulis: yes20:31
pakcjopmatulis: I didn't set it up, so I'm not 100% sure, actually I know nothing about ldap20:31
pakcjojust that before the upgrade it was working fine, now it doesn't20:32
pakcjoat least I need to get that package out of iF state20:32
pakcjohalf installed or whatever...20:33
pmatulispakcjo: accesslog is not necessary for running.  you can take the simplification approach and remove it from the config until everything is stable20:33
TJ-pakcjo: F = Half-configured20:33
pmatulisTJ-: same as 'if' ?20:34
pakcjoTJ-: so I need to do: dpkg-reconfigure --force slapd20:34
TJ-The "i" means installed20:34
pmatulisyeah, but the 'f' and 'F'20:35
pakcjook, I'll take what's on /var/backup back into /var/lib/ldap, modify the scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info/slapd.* according to the bug report, and then run dpkg-reconfigure --force right?20:36
TJ-dpkg reports "iF", two flags, first means installed, second means Half-configured see "man dpkg-query"20:37
pmatulisok, looks like 'f' has now become 'F'20:38
pakcjook, now I'm getting a prompt when it says if I want to omit openldap server configuration ??? what is this20:40
pmatulispakcjo: it wants to know if you want to include the config database into the reconfigure command.  i would say 'no'20:41
pmatulispakcjo: the configuration of slapd is itself a database within slapd20:41
pakcjook so I would say no20:43
pakcjobut i don't want an initial configuration, i want to migrade the old one...20:43
pmatulissaying 'y' shouldn't hurt20:44
pakcjoalready said no... it asked about values with the old ones, but now it's asking about password... i don't have that20:44
pakcjoempty will use the same?20:44
pmatulisasking about password?20:45
pakcjohmmm ok, it's up again, still kerberos can't connect20:46
pmatulispakcjo: not sure what you mean by that.  you have kerberos data inside one of your databases?20:47
pakcjowhen I try to connect it get  conn=1001 op=0 do_extended: unsupported operation "1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.2003720:47
pakcjokerberos uses ldap20:47
pmatulispakcjo: that's the only log message?  try running slapd in debug mode (prolly easiest to invoke binary manually but add '-d -1')20:58
pakcjopmatulis: I'm currently trying to see a way to drop ldap form kerberos...20:59
pmatulispakcjo: prolly need to add some quotes:20:59
pmatulis/usr/sbin/slapd -h 'ldap:/// ldapi:///' -g openldap -u openldap -F /etc/ldap/slapd.d -d -120:59
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pmatulisdo other operations work?20:59
pakcjoI don't have that many users and probably it will just be better to have a normal database, it seems that krb supports its own db2 stuff20:59
pakcjopmatulis: no, it ask for password, i didn't enter anything so20:59
pmatulisnot sure what you mean21:00
pakcjothe only reason that I have ldap here is to work as a database for kerberos, to authenticate users, someone thought that will be a good idea...21:01
pmatulisslapd can be good to have around for other future projects21:02
pakcjoyeah, well, if it is going to break on every upgrade... I rather not21:02
pmatulisdon't use nested databases, that's not good form21:03
pakcjopmatulis: no idea what is that... there are like 10 users only, no idea why it was nested on the first place21:05
fridaynextanybody here use a CLI email client exclusively?21:05
pmatulispakcjo: prolly b/c whoever set it up didn't know any better21:06
pakcjofridaynext: mutt21:06
fridaynextpakcjo: do you have specific reasons why you use it exclusively?21:06
pakcjofridaynext: because i don't like anything else21:07
pakcjofridaynext: I use i3wm and it looks good in it21:07
fridaynextpakcjo: well that looks cool.21:08
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RobCWDudleythanks Patrickdk - got it all working now21:44
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pakcjois there a way to list everything that is in the ldap database?22:23
pmatulispakcjo: of course22:39
pmatulispakcjo: do you know the index number of that database?  if you have 2 (accesslog and "normal") then it would be "1" and "2".  the config database is "0"22:41
pmatulispakcjo: the simplest is with: 'sudo slapcat -n 0 > slapcat.config' ; where the index is given by '-n #'22:42
pakcjothanks pmatulis22:45
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