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MooDoomorning all05:49
mappshey MooDoo05:54
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:21
mappsmorning07:22
brobostigonmorning mapps07:23
MooDoohowdy mapps brobostigon07:24
brobostigonmorning MooDoo07:25
Myrttihttps://plus.google.com/100016383867666174158/posts/eq2agHNrWye :-|07:53
awilkinsBread machine! Compile your own bread from source!07:59
awilkinsSadly, this takes 2-3 hours07:59
awilkinsThe guy who invents the bread machine with integral time machine that takes it back in time just in time to have the loaf ready would make a mint08:00
Myrttithe main problem is the lack of hot water08:02
Myrttican't start baking bread and not be able to wash my hands properly08:02
DJonesawilkins: Quick setting on bread machine gives passable bread in an hour for me08:03
MyrttiI'm wondering what kitchen gadgets I could forgo for getting a bread machine08:04
davmor2Morning all08:06
bashrcmorning08:08
TheOpenSourcererBread makers rock. Really.08:13
awilkinsI use mine as a "dough maker"08:14
TheOpenSourcererNot only do they produce lovely bread whilst I am asleep, they also make great Pizza dough in 45 minutes (that also works really well for dough-balls and making other roll-type products) & Naan bread dough that's proved in ~2hrs08:14
DJonesMyrtti: If you're going to drop a kichen gadget in favour of a bread maker, I'd forget about a food processor, anyone I know with one gets one with all the attachments and maybe uses it once a year08:16
MyrttiTheOpenSourcerer: the word on the street is, though, that they don't make passable proper Finnish rye08:16
MyrttiDJones: I broke ours a year ago when I was trying to blitz dry onion skins I had soaked for a few days with it :-|08:17
DJonesMyrtti: Out of interest, what would you have used the blitzed onion skins for?08:18
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Senior Health & Fitness Day! :-D08:18
Myrttiyarn dyeing, of course. https://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/sets/72157632822139010/08:19
DJonesMyrtti: Ah, didn't think of that, I was trying to think of a food recipe08:19
DJonesWhat lovely road maintenance and traffic management planning by the highways agency, causing 3 hour minimum delays08:21
awilkinsHooray!08:22
awilkinsHope they are at least fixing some potholes08:22
DJonesI think major resurfacing on a section of road that didn't have pothole08:23
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:29
brobostigonmorning bigcalm08:30
DJonesHeh, poor kitty https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=568191693297174&set=vb.196251357157878&type=2&theater08:31
foobarryMyrtti: my wife was dying wool the other day. stankt he house out08:42
davmor2Awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wByOv2sUZ-c08:53
MooDoomorning davmor209:02
davmor2MooDoo: hey dude you having a better day today?09:03
bigcalmdavmor2: how sweet09:03
davmor2bigcalm: why would you not smile at a ticklish penguin09:04
popeyDJones: I use my food mixer a fair amount ☻09:13
DJoneshmmh, popey is Mary Berry....09:13
popeymade a recipe that was on the front page of reddit last night09:14
popeyhttp://theculinaryrecipes.com/double-crunch-honey-garlic-chicken-breasts/09:15
popeywas yummy09:15
MooDoodavmor2: yes thanks :D09:15
MooDoothis evening I shall be making pork and bulghar stuffed peppers09:16
DJonesLooks nice, but honey is too sweet for me, I'd end up being ill with that09:19
* MooDoo can't stand honey09:21
DJonesI also have a rule about not eating anything produced by rubbing legs together09:21
popeywierdos09:23
MooDoolol09:24
popeygarlic and honey are made for eachother09:24
bigcalmDJones: rubbing legs together?09:25
DJonesbigcalm: Honey & bee's09:25
bigcalmHeh, fair enough09:25
Myrttiwe watched the whole series of The Wonder of Bees with Martha Kearney few weeks ago. It was amazing09:26
Myrttieven started wondering should we get a hive if we get a bigger house with a bigger garden09:27
DJonesIf I had a bigger garden, I'd get chickens09:27
Myrttithat too09:28
Myrttichicken and bees09:28
awilkinsIt's not the rubbing legs together that's the gross bit about honeyu09:28
awilkinsIt's the multi-bee bulimia party involved in processing it09:28
bigcalmo.O09:30
MyrttiI'm personally dreaming of this hand mixer http://www.braunhousehold.com/global/all-products/food-preparation/hand-mixers/multiquick-system-hand-mixer-m1070-6-in-1-0x8126090109:41
Myrttibees knees, as they say09:42
awilkinsAnd not the bees "blees" : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10616420/bee-blee.jpg09:45
TheOpenSourcererWe bought one of these recently - is very good IMHO: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Andrew-James-Powerful-Processor-Attachment/dp/B0051U27RI09:46
TwistedLucidityawilkins: Indeed. Eating the morning porridge is always a bit weird when one remembers they are eating bee barf drizzles on heated bovine lacations thickend with oat starch.09:46
TheOpenSourcererQuite heavy but that's fine by me.09:47
awilkinsMother has Grandmothers original Kenwood Chef09:47
awilkinsFactory Reconditioned09:47
bigcalmAudio in left headphone started to deteriorate. Thought that my hearing was going. Turns out to be track I was listening to. Hearing still feels funny though09:48
awilkinsBuilt like a Soviet Tank09:48
MyrttiTheOpenSourcerer: yeah, I bought the older model of the Braun multimix years ago when I didn't have a Kenwood Chef. Now I've got my mum's old one and I suppose I wouldn't necessarily need a hand mixer with the dough hooks anymore...09:48
Myrttibut yeah, need to get it looked at, one of the attachment ports is gone09:48
Myrttiotherwise works like a charm09:49
ali1234we've got bees in the roof10:15
ali1234should probably do something about that10:15
GargoyleCan anyone offer any advice/mentoring on getting involved in helping to maintain a ppa ?10:43
MooDooGargoyle: do you have one now?10:45
jussiGargoyle: If you have an intrerest, the kubuntu team runs several PPA's that always neeed more contributors, feel free to drop into #kubuntu-devel10:45
MooDoohave you seen this? - http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/ppa/10:45
GargoyleI was thinking one of the ubuntu ones. Specifically hadoop10:45
MooDooGargoyle: https://launchpad.net/~hadoop-ubuntu/+archive/dev11:00
MooDooGargoyle: you can contact them here if it's what you're after lol - https://launchpad.net/~hadoop-ubuntu11:01
GargoyleMooDoo: Yeah, I've fired off an email to the list. Hopefully with some guidance I can help get that PPA updated to a newer version of hadoop11:03
MooDooGargoyle: brill :D11:06
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mappshey all11:23
MooDoohowdy mapps11:31
* MartijnVdS waves as well11:33
bigcalmAfternoon11:37
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MooDoowtf - http://action.sumofus.org/a/Facebook-app-taps-phones/?sub=fb sigh11:38
bigcalmAnother reason why I don't use the app :)11:39
mappsi dont have a facebook ac11:41
mappsLD11:41
mapps:D11:41
mappstoo time consuming11:41
TheOpenSourcererha ha ha... Look who appears on the first page of this Google search for Sriracha Sauce: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Sri+Racha+sauce&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk11:48
shaunothe oatmeal?11:50
bigcalmThat may be because it's linking results from our G+ accounts11:50
bigcalmshauno: popey11:50
MyrttiThe Oatmeal11:50
shaunothat's why I was curious.  I don't see anyone from here in the results11:50
TheOpenSourcererI've run out :-(11:50
TheOpenSourcererOh you don't see popey at the bottom?11:51
bigcalmMcDonalds should have Sriracha sauce as an option. I ...11:51
bigcalmhttps://plus.google.com/109365858706205035322/.../Sbq2NntJ...11:51
bigcalmAlan Pope11:51
bigcalm23 Sep 2012 - McDonalds should have Sriracha sauce as an option. I might take some with me next time I go. Sriracha makes everything better11:51
Myrttino, if you search in porn mode11:51
bigcalm!pastebin | bigcalm11:51
lubotu3bigcalm, please see my private message11:51
bigcalm!pastebin > bigcalm11:51
bigcalmOh, > isn't a thing11:52
MartijnVdShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNL8j0jkHeg !11:52
shaunohm, interesting11:52
shaunoI made bacon-choc-chip once.  that went well11:52
bigcalmperr14 - perth?12:01
DJonesHeh, email received asking me to "Download file at google disk drive service - dropbox" with a link to a dropbox stored file....Yeah, how daft do they think I am12:10
MartijnVdS...12:10
bigcalmI'd download it just to then pick through the payload12:10
DJonesThat would mean me wasting time messing about with it12:11
bigcalmWow. OSN just told me that my mouse's battery is low at 25% remaining12:22
bigcalmThat's cool!12:22
TwistedLuciditybigcalm: Cool. Which mouse? And what doo-mahicky you using to get the reading?12:23
MartijnVdSOSN?12:24
TwistedLucidityMartijnVdS: On Screen Notification12:24
DJonesTwistedLucidity: Its default in Ubuntu, works for me with MS & cheap own brand mice12:25
TwistedLucidityHmmm...using a Logitech unit, never seen any setting to get a report on battery health12:25
MartijnVdSah.. I thought it was a typo :)12:25
DJonesTrying to think back to when I first saw the battery notification, think it was 13.04 or 13.1012:27
TwistedLucidityI'm on 14.04 but using KDE; it may not have it12:28
bigcalmTwistedLucidity: I didn't set it up to do this, it just worked out of the box. Mouse is Logitech M57012:28
DJonesLooks like 13.1012:28
bigcalmTwistedLucidity: I'm using Unity in 14.0412:28
DJonesbigcalm: Have you noticed this before on the power management page http://i.stack.imgur.com/q28iW.png12:29
bigcalmDJones: rarely look at that screen. But the 'Wireless mouse' section appears in it for me :)12:29
DJonesbigcalm: I think it only came in from 13.1012:30
bigcalmFair enough12:30
bigcalmIt's a cool thing though12:30
bigcalmI just tried to close the 'Power' window within your screenshot12:30
* bigcalm sighs12:30
TwistedLucidityOoo....found the lock key activation/deactiviation notifications though. That'll be handy on the ThinkPad which has no LEDs.12:30
bigcalmTwistedLucidity: where is that setting, keyboard?12:31
TwistedLucidityWell, I'm using KDE12:31
bigcalmAh12:32
* bigcalm goes back to sleep12:32
TwistedLucidityI'm using UPower 0.9.23, so I should be able to see the Logitech guff....12:36
davmor2TwistedLucidity: you might want to look at Solaar much nicer for Logitech wireless stuff13:00
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Thanks13:01
davmor2TwistedLucidity: http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/screenshots-desktop/solaar.png clicking on each gives you a nice overview and you get an indicator that displays the lowest battery level13:05
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Seems to have dependencies on WINE and Mono. Will check it out.13:06
dogmatic69anyone know why I cant paste more than 20 char over ssh?13:08
dogmatic69hangs the session13:09
davmor2TwistedLucidity: are you looking from source or ppa the ubuntu build has the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/7536516/13:10
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: 'buntu PPA.13:10
davmor2TwistedLucidity: https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive/solaar13:11
TwistedLucidityThat's the one13:11
davmor2TwistedLucidity: thats the one I have installed and those are the deps it might be that the original version did while he figured out stuff13:12
TwistedLucidityNot sure, just checked what it needed and a whole slew of WINE 1.6 etc came up.13:13
* czajkowski pokes davmor2 13:14
* davmor2 grabs his big proddy stick and wallops czajkowski with it, long time no see how's life czajkowski 13:16
czajkowskidavmor2: ouchies!!!!13:16
davmor2czajkowski: Oh come on matchsticks taped together don't hurt that much :)13:17
davmor2czajkowski: how's life?13:17
czajkowskibusy and good13:18
MooDoodavmor2: czajkowski fight......13:18
MooDoowow where has today gone, it's almost time to go home.14:02
bigcalmMooDoo: you have short days :(14:12
MooDoobigcalm: 7 - 3:3014:13
bigcalmMooDoo: you have poop hours :(14:13
MooDoobigcalm: my choice14:13
bigcalm:)14:13
MooDoobigcalm: with two young kids, it's always been easy for me to get up at early [5:30]14:14
bigcalmWorking from home, I struggle to get out of bed before 8.55am14:15
MooDoobigcalm: wish I could work from home, would be easier lol14:15
bigcalmChildren would be the death of me14:15
davmor2bigcalm: your kids would be, but that would be because they would be psycho axe wielding maniacs ;)14:16
bigcalmI'd better continue to not have children then :D14:17
MooDoolol14:17
davmor2bigcalm: hahaha14:17
SuperMattgod damn, all I want to do is install an arch container in LXC, but it seems near impossible14:18
SuperMattbecause you already need pacman installed14:18
SuperMattoh well14:18
davmor2SuperMatt: I thought there was an arch build available maybe I'm wrong14:37
davmor2SuperMatt: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Linux_Containers this might help14:39
SuperMattdavmor2: there is a build, but it uses pacman and pacstrap to do a lot of the work14:46
GargoyleI'm trying to get hadoop up and running on 12.04, and there's a page on the hadoop site which says "Check that there isn't an entry for your hostname mapped to 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts (Ubuntu is notorious for this)"16:35
GargoyleHow should the hostname be correctly configured? Just to the machines real IP ?16:35
bigcalmGargoyle: if 127.0.x.y is in /etc/hosts and not pointing at localhost, then it can be safely removed16:41
Gargoylebigcalm: So the 127.0.1.1 can just be removed, and the 127.0.0.1 should only point to localhost and not my.domain.name17:06
daftykinssounds fine17:07
daftykinskeep a backup of hosts as-is17:07
bigcalm!backup17:08
lubotu3There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning17:08
bigcalmOkay, maybe not that level of backup :)17:08
bigcalmsudo cp /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.dist17:09
GargoyleI think it's actually vagrant adding the extra hostnames to the 127* records17:16
bigcalmThat seems likely17:20
bigcalmI have this in one of my vagrant machines' /etc/hosts files17:20
bigcalm127.0.1.1 ep-web-dev ep-web-dev17:21
daftykins127.0.1.1 tends to be dnsmasq too17:24
daftykinslikely present in your resolv.conf17:24
popeypurged resolvconf17:25
popeysilly software17:25
daftykinsmanual is definitely far nicer17:32
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AzelphurAnyone have any suggestions on what I should get wifi wise for a small cafe?18:50
ali1234a cup of tea?18:54
ali1234bacon sandwich?18:55
ali1234you're going to want something you can lock down. i heard draytek are good for that18:55
Azelphurhehe18:55
Azelphurali1234: doesn't really need locking down, atm they are just using a very typical plusnet home ADSL setup18:56
Azelphurand they just have wifi codes on the wall, they aren't too concerned with people standing outside and using it18:56
DJonesAzelphur: "typical home ADSL setup" ? Maybe they need to think about a business setup rather than a home setup18:58
AzelphurDJones: well mostly they just need a not shit router, it actually works somewhat ok now, they just need a bit better range and something that won't fall over with too many clients connected to it18:59
Azelphurit's not an internet cafe, just a cafe that has wifi18:59
DJonesYes, but its still a business thats giving wifi out, that could cause problems trying to use a home network provider, just in terms  of using a home network for a business19:01
AzelphurDJones: yea, I've already told them they need to get off that ADSL connection, hoping they can get fibre but it's a bit up in the air since the cafe is in a strange location19:01
DJonesI'm just thinking in terms of protecting the owner if something dodgy happens or the service got abuses19:02
AzelphurDJones: that's a good point, I suppose I should make sure they are on plusnet business not home19:03
DJonesAt the end of the day, the owner is responsible, but at least being able to show its a business account rather than a personal account will probably offer a bit more protection19:05
ali1234oh, i got a helpouts invite19:06
ali1234i don't even remember asking for one19:07
DJonesWasn;t that something MooDoo was involved in, ubuntu helpouts ?19:07
DJonesMaybe from  that19:07
ali1234yeah... that was ages ago19:07
DJonesCan't be that long, my memory of it hasn't faded :)19:08
daftykinsmeatspace or online?19:09
Azelphurbut yea, we seem to have drifted over the original question, router suggestions?19:12
AzelphurI was thinking RT-N16 with OpenWRT19:12
daftykinsAzelphur: got a link for that one?20:29
Azelphurdaftykins: the RT-N16?20:29
daftykinsyes sir20:29
Azelphurdaftykins: it's an asus router, you can buy it pretty much anywhere, it's not hard to find xD20:30
daftykinsyeah i just thought if you had it up already i'd look at the specs and comment20:30
Azelphurnah I don't have it20:31
daftykinswe're on VDSL over here these days so i don't even know of consumer routers that are appropriate O_O20:31
daftykinsour ISP provides ones, but they're _horrible_20:31
daftykinsnon-customisable DNS unless you telnet tweak20:32
AzelphurVDSL is FTTC right?20:32
daftykinsprobably20:32
Azelphurdaftykins: should have a BT infinity router, plugs right into the wan port20:32
daftykinsdon't have BT here sir20:33
Azelphurah, some weird VDSL then :P20:33
daftykinswell i'm sure it's the same kinda tech, as i get 40/520:33
daftykinsit's just they don't provide the modems20:33
daftykinsi've got one though :D firmware unlocked Huawei \o/20:34
daftykinswas about £8 on ebay20:34
Azelphur:)20:34
daftykinspretty bog standard 'n' there then20:39
Azelphurindeed20:39
daftykins3 antennae but no comment of true x:y streams etc20:40
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/mlj215wixvqeksx/2014-05-27%2004.34.46.jpg21:03
daftykinsanyone seen this before?21:03
daftykinsmy mate has this with trusty on his/our asus laptop with optimus21:03
MartijnVdSthere's your problem21:03
daftykins;D21:03
daftykinsi don't think he's even attempting to use the nvidia21:03
daftykinsactually the external display is running on the VGA which comes off the nvidia i believe21:04

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