=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [05:49] morning all [05:54] hey MooDoo === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [07:21] morning boys and girls. [07:22] morning [07:23] morning mapps [07:24] howdy mapps brobostigon [07:25] morning MooDoo [07:53] https://plus.google.com/100016383867666174158/posts/eq2agHNrWye :-| [07:59] Bread machine! Compile your own bread from source! [07:59] Sadly, this takes 2-3 hours [08:00] The guy who invents the bread machine with integral time machine that takes it back in time just in time to have the loaf ready would make a mint [08:02] the main problem is the lack of hot water [08:02] can't start baking bread and not be able to wash my hands properly [08:03] awilkins: Quick setting on bread machine gives passable bread in an hour for me [08:04] I'm wondering what kitchen gadgets I could forgo for getting a bread machine [08:06] Morning all [08:08] morning [08:13] Bread makers rock. Really. [08:14] I use mine as a "dough maker" [08:14] Not only do they produce lovely bread whilst I am asleep, they also make great Pizza dough in 45 minutes (that also works really well for dough-balls and making other roll-type products) & Naan bread dough that's proved in ~2hrs [08:16] Myrtti: If you're going to drop a kichen gadget in favour of a bread maker, I'd forget about a food processor, anyone I know with one gets one with all the attachments and maybe uses it once a year [08:16] TheOpenSourcerer: the word on the street is, though, that they don't make passable proper Finnish rye [08:17] DJones: I broke ours a year ago when I was trying to blitz dry onion skins I had soaked for a few days with it :-| [08:18] Myrtti: Out of interest, what would you have used the blitzed onion skins for? [08:18] Good morning all; happy Senior Health & Fitness Day! :-D [08:19] yarn dyeing, of course. https://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/sets/72157632822139010/ [08:19] Myrtti: Ah, didn't think of that, I was trying to think of a food recipe [08:21] What lovely road maintenance and traffic management planning by the highways agency, causing 3 hour minimum delays [08:22] Hooray! [08:22] Hope they are at least fixing some potholes [08:23] I think major resurfacing on a section of road that didn't have pothole [08:29] Good morning peeps :) [08:30] morning bigcalm [08:31] Heh, poor kitty https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=568191693297174&set=vb.196251357157878&type=2&theater [08:42] Myrtti: my wife was dying wool the other day. stankt he house out [08:53] Awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wByOv2sUZ-c [09:02] morning davmor2 [09:03] MooDoo: hey dude you having a better day today? [09:03] davmor2: how sweet [09:04] bigcalm: why would you not smile at a ticklish penguin [09:13] DJones: I use my food mixer a fair amount ☻ [09:13] hmmh, popey is Mary Berry.... [09:14] made a recipe that was on the front page of reddit last night [09:15] http://theculinaryrecipes.com/double-crunch-honey-garlic-chicken-breasts/ [09:15] was yummy [09:15] davmor2: yes thanks :D [09:16] this evening I shall be making pork and bulghar stuffed peppers [09:19] Looks nice, but honey is too sweet for me, I'd end up being ill with that [09:21] * MooDoo can't stand honey [09:21] I also have a rule about not eating anything produced by rubbing legs together [09:23] wierdos [09:24] lol [09:24] garlic and honey are made for eachother [09:25] DJones: rubbing legs together? [09:25] bigcalm: Honey & bee's [09:25] Heh, fair enough [09:26] we watched the whole series of The Wonder of Bees with Martha Kearney few weeks ago. It was amazing [09:27] even started wondering should we get a hive if we get a bigger house with a bigger garden [09:27] If I had a bigger garden, I'd get chickens [09:28] that too [09:28] chicken and bees [09:28] It's not the rubbing legs together that's the gross bit about honeyu [09:28] It's the multi-bee bulimia party involved in processing it [09:30] o.O [09:41] I'm personally dreaming of this hand mixer http://www.braunhousehold.com/global/all-products/food-preparation/hand-mixers/multiquick-system-hand-mixer-m1070-6-in-1-0x81260901 [09:42] bees knees, as they say [09:45] And not the bees "blees" : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10616420/bee-blee.jpg [09:46] We bought one of these recently - is very good IMHO: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Andrew-James-Powerful-Processor-Attachment/dp/B0051U27RI [09:46] awilkins: Indeed. Eating the morning porridge is always a bit weird when one remembers they are eating bee barf drizzles on heated bovine lacations thickend with oat starch. [09:47] Quite heavy but that's fine by me. [09:47] Mother has Grandmothers original Kenwood Chef [09:47] Factory Reconditioned [09:48] Audio in left headphone started to deteriorate. Thought that my hearing was going. Turns out to be track I was listening to. Hearing still feels funny though [09:48] Built like a Soviet Tank [09:48] TheOpenSourcerer: yeah, I bought the older model of the Braun multimix years ago when I didn't have a Kenwood Chef. Now I've got my mum's old one and I suppose I wouldn't necessarily need a hand mixer with the dough hooks anymore... [09:48] but yeah, need to get it looked at, one of the attachment ports is gone [09:49] otherwise works like a charm [10:15] we've got bees in the roof [10:15] should probably do something about that [10:43] Can anyone offer any advice/mentoring on getting involved in helping to maintain a ppa ? [10:45] Gargoyle: do you have one now? [10:45] Gargoyle: If you have an intrerest, the kubuntu team runs several PPA's that always neeed more contributors, feel free to drop into #kubuntu-devel [10:45] have you seen this? - http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/ppa/ [10:45] I was thinking one of the ubuntu ones. Specifically hadoop [11:00] Gargoyle: https://launchpad.net/~hadoop-ubuntu/+archive/dev [11:01] Gargoyle: you can contact them here if it's what you're after lol - https://launchpad.net/~hadoop-ubuntu [11:03] MooDoo: Yeah, I've fired off an email to the list. Hopefully with some guidance I can help get that PPA updated to a newer version of hadoop [11:06] Gargoyle: brill :D === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:23] hey all [11:31] howdy mapps [11:33] * MartijnVdS waves as well [11:37] Afternoon === msm is now known as Guest93826 [11:38] wtf - http://action.sumofus.org/a/Facebook-app-taps-phones/?sub=fb sigh [11:39] Another reason why I don't use the app :) [11:41] i dont have a facebook ac [11:41] LD [11:41] :D [11:41] too time consuming [11:48] ha ha ha... Look who appears on the first page of this Google search for Sriracha Sauce: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Sri+Racha+sauce&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk [11:50] the oatmeal? [11:50] That may be because it's linking results from our G+ accounts [11:50] shauno: popey [11:50] The Oatmeal [11:50] that's why I was curious. I don't see anyone from here in the results [11:50] I've run out :-( [11:51] Oh you don't see popey at the bottom? [11:51] McDonalds should have Sriracha sauce as an option. I ... [11:51] https://plus.google.com/109365858706205035322/.../Sbq2NntJ... [11:51] Alan Pope [11:51] 23 Sep 2012 - McDonalds should have Sriracha sauce as an option. I might take some with me next time I go. Sriracha makes everything better [11:51] no, if you search in porn mode [11:51] !pastebin | bigcalm [11:51] bigcalm, please see my private message [11:51] !pastebin > bigcalm [11:52] Oh, > isn't a thing [11:52] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNL8j0jkHeg ! [11:52] hm, interesting [11:52] I made bacon-choc-chip once. that went well [12:01] perr14 - perth? [12:10] Heh, email received asking me to "Download file at google disk drive service - dropbox" with a link to a dropbox stored file....Yeah, how daft do they think I am [12:10] ... [12:10] I'd download it just to then pick through the payload [12:11] That would mean me wasting time messing about with it [12:22] Wow. OSN just told me that my mouse's battery is low at 25% remaining [12:22] That's cool! [12:23] bigcalm: Cool. Which mouse? And what doo-mahicky you using to get the reading? [12:24] OSN? [12:24] MartijnVdS: On Screen Notification [12:25] TwistedLucidity: Its default in Ubuntu, works for me with MS & cheap own brand mice [12:25] Hmmm...using a Logitech unit, never seen any setting to get a report on battery health [12:25] ah.. I thought it was a typo :) [12:27] Trying to think back to when I first saw the battery notification, think it was 13.04 or 13.10 [12:28] I'm on 14.04 but using KDE; it may not have it [12:28] TwistedLucidity: I didn't set it up to do this, it just worked out of the box. Mouse is Logitech M570 [12:28] Looks like 13.10 [12:28] TwistedLucidity: I'm using Unity in 14.04 [12:29] bigcalm: Have you noticed this before on the power management page http://i.stack.imgur.com/q28iW.png [12:29] DJones: rarely look at that screen. But the 'Wireless mouse' section appears in it for me :) [12:30] bigcalm: I think it only came in from 13.10 [12:30] Fair enough [12:30] It's a cool thing though [12:30] I just tried to close the 'Power' window within your screenshot [12:30] * bigcalm sighs [12:30] Ooo....found the lock key activation/deactiviation notifications though. That'll be handy on the ThinkPad which has no LEDs. [12:31] TwistedLucidity: where is that setting, keyboard? [12:31] Well, I'm using KDE [12:32] Ah [12:32] * bigcalm goes back to sleep [12:36] I'm using UPower 0.9.23, so I should be able to see the Logitech guff.... [13:00] TwistedLucidity: you might want to look at Solaar much nicer for Logitech wireless stuff [13:01] davmor2: Thanks [13:05] TwistedLucidity: http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/screenshots-desktop/solaar.png clicking on each gives you a nice overview and you get an indicator that displays the lowest battery level [13:06] davmor2: Seems to have dependencies on WINE and Mono. Will check it out. [13:08] anyone know why I cant paste more than 20 char over ssh? [13:09] hangs the session [13:10] TwistedLucidity: are you looking from source or ppa the ubuntu build has the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/7536516/ [13:10] davmor2: 'buntu PPA. [13:11] TwistedLucidity: https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive/solaar [13:11] That's the one [13:12] TwistedLucidity: thats the one I have installed and those are the deps it might be that the original version did while he figured out stuff [13:13] Not sure, just checked what it needed and a whole slew of WINE 1.6 etc came up. [13:14] * czajkowski pokes davmor2 [13:16] * davmor2 grabs his big proddy stick and wallops czajkowski with it, long time no see how's life czajkowski [13:16] davmor2: ouchies!!!! [13:17] czajkowski: Oh come on matchsticks taped together don't hurt that much :) [13:17] czajkowski: how's life? [13:18] busy and good [13:18] davmor2: czajkowski fight...... [14:02] wow where has today gone, it's almost time to go home. [14:12] MooDoo: you have short days :( [14:13] bigcalm: 7 - 3:30 [14:13] MooDoo: you have poop hours :( [14:13] bigcalm: my choice [14:13] :) [14:14] bigcalm: with two young kids, it's always been easy for me to get up at early [5:30] [14:15] Working from home, I struggle to get out of bed before 8.55am [14:15] bigcalm: wish I could work from home, would be easier lol [14:15] Children would be the death of me [14:16] bigcalm: your kids would be, but that would be because they would be psycho axe wielding maniacs ;) [14:17] I'd better continue to not have children then :D [14:17] lol [14:17] bigcalm: hahaha [14:18] god damn, all I want to do is install an arch container in LXC, but it seems near impossible [14:18] because you already need pacman installed [14:18] oh well [14:37] SuperMatt: I thought there was an arch build available maybe I'm wrong [14:39] SuperMatt: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Linux_Containers this might help [14:46] davmor2: there is a build, but it uses pacman and pacstrap to do a lot of the work [16:35] I'm trying to get hadoop up and running on 12.04, and there's a page on the hadoop site which says "Check that there isn't an entry for your hostname mapped to 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts (Ubuntu is notorious for this)" [16:35] How should the hostname be correctly configured? Just to the machines real IP ? [16:41] Gargoyle: if 127.0.x.y is in /etc/hosts and not pointing at localhost, then it can be safely removed [17:06] bigcalm: So the 127.0.1.1 can just be removed, and the 127.0.0.1 should only point to localhost and not my.domain.name [17:07] sounds fine [17:07] keep a backup of hosts as-is [17:08] !backup [17:08] There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [17:08] Okay, maybe not that level of backup :) [17:09] sudo cp /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.dist [17:16] I think it's actually vagrant adding the extra hostnames to the 127* records [17:20] That seems likely [17:20] I have this in one of my vagrant machines' /etc/hosts files [17:21] 127.0.1.1 ep-web-dev ep-web-dev [17:24] 127.0.1.1 tends to be dnsmasq too [17:24] likely present in your resolv.conf [17:25] purged resolvconf [17:25] silly software [17:32] manual is definitely far nicer === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [18:50] Anyone have any suggestions on what I should get wifi wise for a small cafe? [18:54] a cup of tea? [18:55] bacon sandwich? [18:55] you're going to want something you can lock down. i heard draytek are good for that [18:55] hehe [18:56] ali1234: doesn't really need locking down, atm they are just using a very typical plusnet home ADSL setup [18:56] and they just have wifi codes on the wall, they aren't too concerned with people standing outside and using it [18:58] Azelphur: "typical home ADSL setup" ? Maybe they need to think about a business setup rather than a home setup [18:59] DJones: well mostly they just need a not shit router, it actually works somewhat ok now, they just need a bit better range and something that won't fall over with too many clients connected to it [18:59] it's not an internet cafe, just a cafe that has wifi [19:01] Yes, but its still a business thats giving wifi out, that could cause problems trying to use a home network provider, just in terms of using a home network for a business [19:01] DJones: yea, I've already told them they need to get off that ADSL connection, hoping they can get fibre but it's a bit up in the air since the cafe is in a strange location [19:02] I'm just thinking in terms of protecting the owner if something dodgy happens or the service got abuses [19:03] DJones: that's a good point, I suppose I should make sure they are on plusnet business not home [19:05] At the end of the day, the owner is responsible, but at least being able to show its a business account rather than a personal account will probably offer a bit more protection [19:06] oh, i got a helpouts invite [19:07] i don't even remember asking for one [19:07] Wasn;t that something MooDoo was involved in, ubuntu helpouts ? [19:07] Maybe from that [19:07] yeah... that was ages ago [19:08] Can't be that long, my memory of it hasn't faded :) [19:09] meatspace or online? [19:12] but yea, we seem to have drifted over the original question, router suggestions? [19:12] I was thinking RT-N16 with OpenWRT [20:29] Azelphur: got a link for that one? [20:29] daftykins: the RT-N16? [20:29] yes sir [20:30] daftykins: it's an asus router, you can buy it pretty much anywhere, it's not hard to find xD [20:30] yeah i just thought if you had it up already i'd look at the specs and comment [20:31] nah I don't have it [20:31] we're on VDSL over here these days so i don't even know of consumer routers that are appropriate O_O [20:31] our ISP provides ones, but they're _horrible_ [20:32] non-customisable DNS unless you telnet tweak [20:32] VDSL is FTTC right? [20:32] probably [20:32] daftykins: should have a BT infinity router, plugs right into the wan port [20:33] don't have BT here sir [20:33] ah, some weird VDSL then :P [20:33] well i'm sure it's the same kinda tech, as i get 40/5 [20:33] it's just they don't provide the modems [20:34] i've got one though :D firmware unlocked Huawei \o/ [20:34] was about £8 on ebay [20:34] :) [20:39] pretty bog standard 'n' there then [20:39] indeed [20:40] 3 antennae but no comment of true x:y streams etc [21:03] https://www.dropbox.com/s/mlj215wixvqeksx/2014-05-27%2004.34.46.jpg [21:03] anyone seen this before? [21:03] my mate has this with trusty on his/our asus laptop with optimus [21:03] there's your problem [21:03] ;D [21:03] i don't think he's even attempting to use the nvidia [21:04] actually the external display is running on the VGA which comes off the nvidia i believe