[05:19] <17SAAHVU6> Morning everyone
[05:31] <Kilos> morning all
[05:31] <Kilos> hi bdfix your nick whats with the 17SAAHVU6  
[05:31] <Kilos> bduk
[05:34] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[05:38] <17SAAHVU6> Have no idea kilos. Thought it was the fly that broke it but didn't want to say anything
[05:52] <Squirm> morning
[05:56] <mazal> Môre oom Kilos , Squirm 
[05:57] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[05:57] <Kilos> you missed the meet last night
[06:00] <Squirm> Kilos: I always miss the meet
[06:01] <Kilos> hehe
[06:01] <Kilos> hi Spekko  
[06:02] <Spekko> more Kilos
[06:28] <JabberwockyA19> o/ all
[06:38] <Golynx_> hey Kilos
[06:38] <Kilos> hi Golynx_  
[06:39] <mazal> Oom Kilos , what is the link for the meeting minutes ?
[06:39] <Kilos> sec
[06:40] <Kilos> sjoe i cant find it in scroll back with konversation. will get it from kbmonkey  
[06:48] <mazal> ta
[06:56] <Kilos> i go take sheep out
[07:14] <Kilos> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-05-27-18-35-06.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-05-27-18-35-06.txt :: html:
[07:15] <Kilos> mazal  ^^
[07:39] <mazal> Dankie 
[07:47] <superfly> Môre almal
[08:04] <Kilos> hi tinuva  gremble  and my fly
[08:06] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[08:23] <Xethron> Woot
[08:24] <Xethron> New kernel
[08:24] <Xethron> :D
[08:25] <Xethron> I have no idea what that means but I'm placing all my hopes on it that it'll fix all of my problems!
[08:37] <gremble> What kernel are you running? 
[08:37] <gremble> And what are your problems?
[09:26]  * Kilos outa game to eat a microwave cooked potato
[09:29] <Kilos> very hungry after dying twice in one morning
[09:32] <gremble> Are you trying to ear a microwave cooked potato with your own mouth?
[09:34] <Kilos> ya why?
[09:34] <Kilos> been eating them for years
[09:34] <Kilos> but i let it cool down first of course
[09:35] <gremble> Haha that is super unfortunate xD
[09:35] <Kilos> much nicer than boiled potato
[09:36] <gremble> This potato business is weird none the less
[09:36] <Kilos> put tato in plastic packet with a teaspoon of water then micro on high for 4 mins then turn it over and mocro again another 3 mmins
[09:37] <Kilos> then open and put butter or marge and salt
[09:37] <gremble> I've never been hungry enough to eat just a potato
[09:37] <Kilos> and/pepper for papper eaters
[09:37] <Kilos> lol
[09:38] <Kilos> you never died twice in one morniing
[09:38] <Xethron> haha
[09:38] <Xethron> How'd you die twice?
[09:38] <gremble> I am against dying
[09:38] <Xethron> gremble: why?
[09:39] <Kilos> minetest Xethron  in ubuntu repos
[09:39] <gremble> Not because it is intrinsically bad, I mean, I cannot say anything about death except that some parts of my insides stop working.
[09:39] <gremble> Just... I prefer what I "know"
[09:39] <Xethron> ah
[09:39] <Kilos> lol
[09:39] <Xethron> I'm sure you'll like it once you try it
[09:40] <Kilos> gremble dying aint so bad
[09:40] <gremble> Well, when you are dead you cannot help but like it
[09:40] <gremble> It is like what happens when you are born.  You just have to stick with it
[09:40] <gremble> Unless you ragequit
[09:40] <Kilos> nope some of us get another chance
[09:41] <gremble> But I don't think you can stop being dead when you decide that you dislike it
[09:41] <Kilos> nope the Big boss decides
[09:42] <gremble> Haha right :P
[09:42] <Kilos> being dead is easy its the rebooting and living with what caused it that sucks at times
[09:45] <gremble> Some believe there is that option, some don't. Can't say for sure
[09:48] <Kilos> i can been there done that
[09:48] <Kilos> but dunno how i got to be alive
[09:48] <Kilos> neuro surgeon calls me his medical miracle
[09:49] <Kilos> im happy i got to learn about pcs and ubuntu
[09:50] <gremble> I am glad that you got to have a second change
[09:50] <gremble> chance*
[09:50] <Kilos> ty
[09:50] <Kilos> met nice friends here
[09:51] <Kilos> carried me for years now
[09:55] <Kilos> you wanna try teaching a pc illiterate how to use linux
[09:56] <Kilos> im sure there are some peeps here with no hair from all the hair pulling out i caused in the beginning
[09:56] <Kilos> im sure the fly and the pro are both totally bald hehe
[09:59] <gremble> Haha I am sure they enjoyed helping.
[09:59] <gremble> I know I enjoy helping people if they are appreciative :P
[10:00] <gremble> Anyway. Exams are looming so afk and studying :P
[10:04] <Kilos> hi altus  
[10:14] <superfly> Kilos: I'll give you some bread.
[10:14] <Kilos> lol i have ty superfly  recovered everything outa bones
[10:22] <Kilos> im sure well find graemes bones still
[10:38] <Vince-0> o/
[10:45] <Vince-0> its AWWN - working ldap
[11:33] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[11:33] <Kilos> after how long can i call you vinnie
[11:50] <Vince-0> my friends call me Vincent
[12:08] <Kilos> sigh
[12:08] <Kilos> who calls you vinnie?
[12:09] <Kilos> chicks
[12:12] <Vince-0> ou mens
[12:28] <Kilos> hehe then that fits me
[12:28] <Kilos> haha
[12:29] <Kilos> someone mined right in front of my house
[12:30] <Kilos> i go catch some uv's quick before they gone
[12:36]  * Kilos greets pro san
[12:44] <charl_> good afternoon all
[12:44] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[12:44]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[12:44] <bduk> Buy everyone
[12:47] <mazal> Bye everyone , enjoy your evening
[12:47] <charl_> ciao mazal 
[12:48] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[12:51] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[12:51] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[13:16] <Kilos> hi charl
[13:19] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[13:19] <charl_> how's it going
[13:19] <Kilos> ok ty amd you?
[13:19] <Kilos> and
[13:20] <charl_> i'm doing good thanks
[13:25] <charl_> i've been building ubuntu vm's using packer today
[13:25] <charl_> amazing tool
[13:25] <charl_> extremely impressed
[13:29] <jabberwocky1__> yes I am on 3g :-/
[13:42] <Kilos> most things in ubuntu are amazing
[13:42] <Kilos> ya JabberwockyA19  vodacom most likely
[13:42] <Kilos> or mtn
[13:46] <JabberwockyA19> "Not Sure". Delayed move, telkom line already canceled. Now we're sharing someone's 3G doh
[13:47]  * JabberwockyA19 guesses mtn/afrihostapn
[14:24] <N8Wulf> people in the Palace
[14:24] <N8Wulf> Long time no speak
[14:24] <N8Wulf> how you all doing?
[14:28] <superfly> hi N8Wulf, pretty good, and you?
[14:32] <Kilos> ohi N8Wulf  long time no see
[14:32] <Kilos> we fine ty and you?
[14:32] <Kilos> hi privcan
[14:32] <Kilos> ai!
[14:33] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[14:33] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[14:33] <Kilos> N8Wulf  you were gone here not us. we live here
[14:35] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  you not going home?
[14:35] <Kilos> f10 gave me two errors
[14:37] <Private_User> anybody else experiencing connectivity issues?
[14:38] <Private_User> mine seems to be extremely slow
[14:47] <Private_User> this connectivity is ridiculous
[14:47] <Private_User> gonna disconnect and try again later
[14:54] <N8Wulf> good thanx... new Distro, new adventure again
[15:21] <Kilos> hehe
[15:21] <Kilos> what distro this time N8Wulf  
[15:55] <nlsthzn> o/
[15:57] <nlsthzn> I sent out a mail on the mailing list with a torrent file of RMS's speech as I said I would last night but it doesn't seem my mail got through the mailing list?!  Anybody get a mail from me about this?
[16:07] <gremble> I did
[16:08] <nlsthzn> oh ok, thanks gremble... odd I didn't actually get it back from the mailing list...
[16:09] <nlsthzn> just wanted to check :)
[16:11] <gremble> Wrote 26 pages worth of notes... I am done for the day haha
[16:14] <nlsthzn> notes on?
[16:14] <gremble> Information Ethics
[16:15] <N8Wulf> Sorry Kilos... busy making dinner
[16:15] <N8Wulf> I was on Ultimate Edition OZ for about 2 months, but it really slowed down
[16:16] <nlsthzn> ah yes, information ethics... er...
[16:17] <N8Wulf> so now I gave LXLE a quick test... very nice but sadly the Dev Team = 1, so support on the Bugs will be slow to resolve. But other than that, I will keep an eye out for it when it's on Stable, a really nice allround Distro
[16:19] <N8Wulf> currently I'm Voyager which is a beautiful Xubuntu remix... The French they really have some ... eh... beautiful functional fast taste eh
[16:19] <Kilos> i got it nlsthzn  
[16:19] <nlsthzn> thanks uncle Kilos...
[16:20] <nlsthzn> ironically as of this afternoon I still had 0% upload which means nobody is using it >.<
[16:20] <Kilos> how big is it nlsthzn  ?
[16:21] <nlsthzn> the video file is fairly large ~330mb
[16:21] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:21] <Kilos> thats 3 days on minetest
[16:21] <nlsthzn> and I guess SA isn't the best place for torrents as it also costs data to upload for people :/
[16:22] <nlsthzn> the video is 2 hours and 20 minutes in length so the file size is actually small
[16:22] <Kilos> im sure uncapped peeps will get it if the link is working
[16:23] <nlsthzn> well, it is there to be used or ignored :)
[16:23] <Kilos> have you tried the link?
[16:23] <Kilos> do i have to install something to make torrents work?
[16:25] <Kilos> or have you tried converting it to mobile format amr i think it was called
[16:25] <N8Wulf> nlsthzn: sorry I missed what the Vid is about?
[16:26] <nlsthzn> a torrent client, it will then open the torrent file and start downloading the file from my PC and from anybody else that is seeding the file while simultaneously uploading the file to others trying to download it using the torrent file...
[16:26] <nlsthzn> that is how torrents work
[16:26] <nlsthzn> N8Wulf: it is a speech RMS game is SA last year
[16:26] <Kilos> whats the kde torrent client of choise?
[16:26] <nlsthzn> ktorrent
[16:27] <nlsthzn> in kde you can most probably just put a k inf ront of anyword :p
[16:27] <Kilos> ty ill install it and see how data goes here
[16:27] <nlsthzn> but I would not recommend doing it on mobile data
[16:27] <N8Wulf> but you have to advertise the torrent file on a place like http://www.freetorrent.fr/
[16:28] <Kilos> i havent touched unity for 3 days because it and nvidia mess around with minetest
[16:28] <nlsthzn> N8Wulf: yes I could, or just send it to the mailing list ...
[16:28] <N8Wulf> else nobody else will ever know of the torrent's existance
[16:28] <N8Wulf> Ah... I saw the earlier question about the mailing list
[16:28] <nlsthzn> :)
[16:29]  * nlsthzn will be back some or other time, be good
[16:29] <Kilos> you dont stay away man
[16:29] <Kilos> ai!
[16:29] <N8Wulf> sadly I have 4 Work email accounts and 3 private accounts, so the Priv ones get my lower priority attention
[16:29] <Kilos> lol
[16:30] <N8Wulf> lol yeah
[16:31] <N8Wulf> gene se cuaI'm still trying to figure out what a " speech RMS game" is...?
[16:32] <N8Wulf> oi... old Clipboard garbage that got dumped there
[16:33] <N8Wulf> gonna check in on dinner... BBL
[16:34] <N8Wulf> :-D
[16:59] <Kilos> Maaz  tell N8Wulf Richard Stallman I think his name is
[16:59] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell N8Wulf on freenode
[17:44] <magespawn> good evening
[18:46] <inetpro> good evening
[18:46] <inetpro> superfly, nuvolari: oh please ask Bill why he's using putty on Ubuntu?
[19:01] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[19:02] <Kilos> im ready for bed now
[19:03] <Private_User> hi all, do any of you know what would be the cause of a machine when powered up never reaches the BIOS. It seems like one has the reset button depressed since its like its continuously rebooting
[19:04] <Private_User> I removed the memory and it does as expected with continuous beeps so I have read on the net that means motherboard is still fine
[19:04] <Private_User> any ideas on what I can check, maybe I connected something oncorrectly?
[19:05] <Kilos> pull the battery and power out and bios will go to default
[19:05] <Kilos> 5 mins at least thn try again
[19:06] <Private_User> even if the battery has been out for a long while? ok I can try it again but this is for my Lubuntu machine
[19:06] <Kilos> if its a lappy Private_User  i have no idea
[19:06] <Private_User> nope desktop
[19:06] <Kilos> oh that one
[19:06] <Private_User> yep
[19:07] <Kilos> then cpu or ram not in properly
[19:07] <Private_User> do you think I could have some how messed the CPU up?
[19:07] <Kilos> or you missing that little 4 pin power cord that goes behind the cpu
[19:08] <Private_User> ok I was thinking of removing and re-inserting CPU but then should I re-apply the thermal paste?
[19:08] <Kilos> had to say without seeing it
[19:08] <Kilos> it wont be herd yet
[19:08] <Kilos> hard
[19:08] <Kilos> needs heat methinks
[19:09] <Private_User> ok I will try that anything else I could try before you go to bed since I know its approaching your bed time :)
[19:10] <Kilos> but id go with battery and power out first
[19:10] <Kilos> the battery on the mboard
[19:10] <Private_User> ok that will be step 1, and step 2?
[19:11] <Private_User> if step one does not work
[19:11] <Kilos> with luck it is the internal bios memory still seeing the cpu is out
[19:11] <Private_User> ah ok
[19:11] <Kilos> try it first ill wait some
[19:12] <Private_User> ok hang on brb the machine is in the other room cause my signal was not good there so I had to move rooms
[19:14] <Kilos> ok
[19:14] <superfly> inetpro: I was wondering the same thing
[19:15] <Kilos> i forgot the name of the linux thing i used to control a windowsm pc last year
[19:15] <Kilos> oh
[19:15] <Kilos> remmina, is that it?
[19:16] <Kilos> completely took over a win pc with this one
[19:16] <inetpro> superfly: interesting that you're running wine apps through X11 forwarding
[19:16] <inetpro> isn't it very slow?
[19:17] <Kilos> hoe gaan dit inetpro  ?
[19:17] <inetpro> moeg
[19:18] <Kilos> dis die lewe man, gaan slaap dis al medisyne
[19:18] <superfly> inetpro: depends... to start, a bit, but once they're local, they're as fast as any other app
[19:19] <Kilos> haha superfly  go look that lit tower i made where you started
[19:19] <Kilos> cant do it your way i keep falling
[19:19] <Kilos> much easier with ladders
[19:29] <Private_User> back
[19:29] <Private_User> ok removed theCPU reinserted
[19:29] <Private_User> removed the battery
[19:29] <Kilos> and?
[19:29] <Private_User> and re-inserted still the same
[19:29] <Private_User> so now removed the battery
[19:29] <Private_User> and will wait and see what happens after re-inserting
[19:30] <Kilos> i had one pc that worked like that with no battery in till booted then put battery back
[19:30] <Private_User> otherwise I will just have to disconnedt everything and re-connect one by one and see what could be causing the problem
[19:30] <Kilos> try booting with battery out
[19:30] <Private_User> ok cause when I powered it up with no battery it does the same
[19:31] <Kilos> eish
[19:31] <Private_User> its like its starts then before reaching the part where its says press F2 for CMOS it starts all over again
[19:32] <Kilos> leave it doing that over night or leave battyery out over night
[19:32] <Private_User> I hope I did not stuff any thing up there
[19:32] <Kilos> it cant see cpu and/or ram normally when that happens
[19:33] <Private_User> ok
[19:33] <Kilos> ill be here tomorrow
[19:33] <Kilos> gotta sleep now
[19:33] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:33] <Private_User> so you think if I leave it on to continuously do that it may eventually see it?
[19:34] <Private_User> no worries I will try whatever I can and update you tomorrow
[19:34] <Private_User> night Kilos
[19:35] <Private_User> so anybody else has any ideas on what else I can try?
[19:36] <superfly> Private_User: did you disconnect the reset button?
[19:37] <Private_User> nope you mean disconnect and the power up while disconnected, sounds like an idea let me try that
[19:38] <Private_User> and btw does it make a big difference on how I connect it i.e. which wire goes to + and which connects to -
[19:38] <Private_User> ?
[19:39] <Private_User> i did try witching it around for the power button but I read on the net that polarity does not make a difference for the power switch so now wondering if it does for the reset button
[19:39] <Private_User> *switching
[20:31] <nlsthzn> o/
[21:30] <nlsthzn> guess nobody home... bye o/
[21:50] <superfly> Private_User: a plain simple switch has no polarity, but I don't really know about some of the switches in cases
[22:51] <Private_User> thanks superfly and I tried disconnecting the reset button still does the same. I even removed the CPU to test and it does nothing so inserted CPU again and still seems like its powering on and powering off repeatedely