[00:00] <valleydaddy78> Help
[00:00] <SkyLuke> Hello. On ubuntu server, where is the configuration file to apt that defines periodicity of checking for updates, and behavior when updates are available (install, download,etc..)?
[00:02] <valleydaddy78> Ive been all over installed a bunch of crap dont know whats what my wireless indicator dont even show up in the drop down menu im hooked up through wired right now i cant get my wireless to work period
[00:03] <Sachiru> Motherboard model?
[00:03] <Sachiru> Wireless card model and model number?
[00:03] <valleydaddy78> internal
[00:03] <valleydaddy78> dont kn ow
[00:04] <valleydaddy78> hp pavilion g6
[00:05] <Sachiru> Pavillion G6? Could you please be a bit more specific?
[00:06] <valleydaddy78> thats the type of computer
[00:06] <Sachiru> It should have a model number after that
[00:06] <Sachiru> Usually 4 digits and a letter.
[00:06] <Sachiru> The Pavillion G6 has quite a few revisions, all of them with differing hardware.
[00:06] <Pushy> hi guys
[00:06] <valleydaddy78> how do i pull that info
[00:07] <Sachiru> ... It's printed on the bottom of the laptop?
[00:07] <Sachiru> In a label just below the battery pack?
[00:10] <ADW> You guys are so helpful and non-judgemental on this channel. If he would have asked that in fourum we would still be sifting through flame
[00:10] <ADW> lol
[00:11] <meowkitty666> ADW: I agree. this channel is awesome :)
[00:11] <Sachiru> Well
[00:11] <Sachiru> I just ate an entire bag of M&Ms
[00:11] <Sachiru> So the sugar rush is still boosting my mood.
[00:12] <FrMcKinsy> Hi
[00:12] <valleydaddy78> nope just my product key
[00:12] <Sachiru> @Valleydaddy78: Ok, a few questions then
[00:13] <Sachiru> First: Do you have a live CD of the latest version of ubuntu lying around? (14.04)
[00:13] <Sachiru> Second: Are you 100% sure that the wifi adapter hardware itself is working?
[00:13] <valleydaddy78> no
[00:13] <valleydaddy78> yes
[00:13] <Sachiru> Third: Are you working on a PC with ubuntu freshly installed, or did it come from an upgrade?
[00:14] <valleydaddy78> i was guided through terminal to be sure of the and the hardware switch works also
[00:14] <valleydaddy78> it*
[00:15] <Sachiru> Is it a fresh install or an upgrade from a previous version of ubuntu?
[00:16] <valleydaddy78> fresh
[00:16] <Sachiru> Also could you open a terminal, run this command, then paste the result here?
[00:16] <Sachiru> lspci -nn | grep
[00:16] <Sachiru> Sorry
[00:16] <Sachiru> lspci -nn | grep Ethernet  <--- this one
[00:17] <SkyLuke> strange thing on ubuntu server 14.04: when I log in, the summary says there are 7 packages that can be updated, though when I then run apt-get upgrade, it says 0 updated
[00:17] <valleydaddy78> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 05)
[00:17] <Sachiru> lspci -nn | grep Network  <--- this one too please
[00:17] <Sachiru> Skyluke: Try apt-get update
[00:18] <Sachiru> Then apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:18] <valleydaddy78> nothing
[00:18] <Sachiru> Hmm. Nothing you say?
[00:18] <Sachiru> Please run "lshw" in terminal, copy entire output, put it to pastebin.com then paste the link here.
[00:19] <Sachiru> Do not directly pastebin it here; it will spit out a lot of lines and we will get flood-banned if you direct paste
[00:19] <valleydaddy78> ok
[00:24] <decryptme> I cannot boot to my laptop 12.04; my home partition is encrypted ... I don't know why I cannot boot... have reinstalled grub and whatever ... but after the purple/mauve/whatever screen ... the screen goes sort of bluish and nothing happens
[00:24] <valleydaddy78> http://pastebin.com/MvxbgSTy
[00:25] <Sachiru> @Valleydaddy: From your pastebin it appears that Ubuntu cannot detect your WiFi card
[00:26] <valleydaddy78> yeah how do i fix that
[00:27] <Sachiru> Could you please run lspci in a terminal window then copy-paste it to pastebin.com then post it back here?
[00:27] <valleydaddy78> @Sachiru yep
[00:27] <Beldar> SkyLuke, Are you seeung held packages in the terminal when you run  a update and upgrade, and if so what are they, in a pastebin if more than two lines.
[00:28] <Beldar> seeing*
[00:29] <valleydaddy78> @Sachiru http://pastebin.com/US6u9ghU
[00:30] <Beldar> SkyLuke, This would be an actual statement of held packages.
[00:30] <FrMcKinsy> How may the cpufreq be viewed from the desktop?
[00:31] <Sachiru> Is the WiFi card enabled?
[00:31] <Sachiru> There could be a hardware switch that needs to be toggled/pressed/switched for it to be detected.
[00:31] <valleydaddy78> dude i know nothing
[00:31] <Sachiru> It should at least show up in lspci
[00:31] <valleydaddy78> n00b
[00:31] <Sachiru> There should be a button or switch there directly on your laptop
[00:32] <Sachiru> That when pressed turns on or off the Wifi
[00:32] <valleydaddy78> i just pasted that
[00:32] <Sachiru> Not a button onscreen, a button directly on the keyboard or sides of the laptop
[00:32] <valleydaddy78> no it stays orange
[00:32] <gr33n7007h> valleydaddy78, rfkill list
[00:35] <valleydaddy78> 0: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
[00:35] <valleydaddy78> 	Soft blocked: no
[00:35] <valleydaddy78> 	Hard blocked: yes
[00:35] <Sachiru> There's your problem
[00:36] <valleydaddy78> after i press the buton 0: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
[00:36] <valleydaddy78> 	Soft blocked: no
[00:36] <valleydaddy78> 	Hard blocked: no
[00:36] <gr33n7007h> valleydaddy78, try rfkill unblock 0
[00:36] <Sachiru> Keep it at Hard blocked: no
[00:37] <Sachiru> Ok, did you run rfkill unblock 0?
[00:37] <valleydaddy78> yes
[00:37] <FrMcKinsy> Any clue?
[00:38] <Sachiru> Could you run rfkill list all?
[00:38] <valleydaddy78> 0: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
[00:38] <valleydaddy78> 	Soft blocked: no
[00:38] <valleydaddy78> 	Hard blocked: no
[00:38] <Sachiru> After that
[00:38] <Sachiru> lspci -nn | grep Network  <--- run this again
[00:38] <valleydaddy78> same
[00:39] <Ben64> i'd almost guarantee its a broadcom based wireless card, very bad support under the best of circumstances. i'd recommend getting a usb wireless instead of spending the time getting the internal one working properly
[00:40] <Sachiru> @Ben: From googling the datasheet
[00:40] <valleydaddy78> id rather learn to do it properly
[00:40] <Sachiru> Most Pavillion G6es have Ralink
[00:40] <Sachiru> Not Broadcom
[00:40] <valleydaddy78> this one has ralink
[00:40] <FrMcKinsy> Ben64: What is recommended to view the cpu frequency from the desktop?
[00:40] <Sachiru> I'm just trying to make sure of what kind of Ralink he has
[00:41] <AndroUser> Once I plug in a USB device into my computer how do I find out the device name to mount it as
[00:41] <valleydaddy78> that one command brought it up
[00:41] <Sachiru> What version of the linux kernel is on there, valleydaddy?
[00:41] <Sachiru> So Wifi is OK now?
[00:42] <Ben64> FrMcKinsy: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[00:42] <AndroUser> Once I plug in a USB device into my computer how do I find out the device name to mount it as
[00:42] <Ben64> AndroUser: dmesg
[00:43] <valleydaddy78> hmmm how i pull it up
[00:43] <valleydaddy78> i just updated the kernel
[00:43] <Sachiru> @valleydaddy: Is. your. wifi. working. now. or. not.?
[00:43] <AndroUser> I did it mentions sdb but I can't mount sdb1 it says it doesn't exist
[00:43] <valleydaddy78> no its not
[00:44] <Ben64> AndroUser: try sdb then
[00:44] <FrMcKinsy> Ben64: that works
[00:44] <Sachiru> For kernel version run in terminal: uname -a
[00:45] <valleydaddy78> Linux chemo14 3.11.0-20-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 21:32:55 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:45] <Mathias> Jordan_U: just wanted to let you know, i figured out my iommu problems :)
[00:45] <Mathias> it was a grumpy marvell sata controller that messed it up
[00:46] <Sachiru> What version of ubuntu is currently running there?
[00:46] <valleydaddy78> 12.04
[00:46] <Sachiru> This is a fresh install right?
[00:46] <valleydaddy78> yes
[00:46] <Sachiru> Nothing important is saved there at the moment right?
[00:47] <valleydaddy78> right
[00:47] <Sachiru> Then wipe everything and do a fresh install of the latest stable
[00:47] <Sachiru> 14.04
[00:47] <Sachiru> Your version is woefully out of date.
[00:47] <valleydaddy78> i did that first
[00:47] <valleydaddy78> didnt work
[00:47] <OerHeks> Sachiru, no it is not, 12.04 is supported until 2017
[00:48] <Sachiru> Still
[00:48] <Sachiru> I categorically refuse to troubleshoot
[00:48] <Sachiru> Old versions
[00:48] <valleydaddy78> yeah i think its supported for 5 yrs
[00:48] <valleydaddy78> lts
[00:48] <ianorlin> that doesn't mean other users can't :(\
[00:48] <OerHeks> ralink issues with wireless N are well known, trottle back to 54 Mbit
[00:49] <Ben64> for a fresh install, yeah i'd go with 14.04, but all the 12.04 people are still on 12.04 at least until 14.04.1 by default
[00:49] <stewart> good day or evening gents and ladies!!!!!
[00:49] <Sachiru> What kind of Ralink card do you have?
[00:49] <Sachiru> So that I know what drivers to ask you to install
[00:49] <valleydaddy78> whats that command again
[00:50] <AndroUser> Doesn't work
[00:50] <Sachiru> No command
[00:50] <Sachiru> Consult the manual
[00:50] <stewart> Does anyone know how to obtain raid5  stats from ubuntu 12.04 and 10.04 LTS?
[00:51] <Sachiru> Or get the exact model number so that you can google it
[00:51] <valleydaddy78> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[00:51] <valleydaddy78> 06:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5209 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
[00:52] <valleydaddy78> rts5209?
[00:53] <OerHeks> that paste shows no wireless device
[00:53] <valleydaddy78> lol
[00:53] <valleydaddy78> it was a windows machine that worked fully wifi and all so its there
[00:54] <Sachiru> As I said
[00:54] <Sachiru> Consult manual/box
[00:55] <Sachiru> to get the exact model number
[00:55] <Sachiru> That's the only way, so you need to go box hunting
[00:55] <stewart> does the following super user command from the terminal reveal the card lshw -C network
[00:55] <Sachiru> No
[00:55] <valleydaddy78> can i do that through terminal
[00:55] <Sachiru> I already had him do that earlier
[00:56] <stewart> Arrg...hmmm
[00:56] <Sachiru> When nothing came up I initially suspected defective hardware, but according to him he's 100% sure that it's not a hardware problem.
[00:57] <pr-nizar> Hi guys could anyone help me install Ubuntu Core to a usb drive? :-)
[00:57] <stewart> The only other thing I can think of....are we dealing with PCI etc bus card or usb card
[00:58] <Sachiru> @pr-nizar
[00:58] <Sachiru> It literally is just following the ubuntu core installation guide
[00:58] <Sachiru> And just changing the destination drive to USB
[00:59] <Sachiru> If you already know of ubuntu core and know how to install it to a regular drive I have no idea why you can't install it to usb
[01:00] <pr-nizar> @Sachiru I've opened a private room with you.. you want to discuss it here?
[01:00] <pr-nizar> the wiki is not updated
[01:00] <stewart> lshw -class network show any more info
[01:01] <pr-nizar> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Core 14.04 amd64 to a usb drive (/dev/sdb MBR table 1partition /dev/sdb1). I've done: umount /dev/sdb1 && mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 && mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt && cd /mnt && wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/14.04/release/ubuntu-core-14.04-core-amd64.tar.gz -O - | tar -xz
[01:02] <pr-nizar> cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf # needed for internet connexion
[01:02] <stewart> pr-nizar why not boot disc or virtual machine from iso then install usb
[01:02] <Sachiru> ^^ Agreed
[01:02] <Sachiru> If you're installing to USB boot from CD or VM, passthrough USB drive, install there
[01:02] <pr-nizar> Actually I'm testing it then thinking to port to ARM.. :-)
[01:02] <Sachiru> So?
[01:03] <stewart> LOL
[01:03] <Sachiru> How is that not a reason for you to install from CD?
[01:03] <pr-nizar> Well.. I can think of it but why not just doing things like this?! lol
[01:03] <Sachiru> Why not?
[01:03] <Sachiru> Ease of life
[01:04] <Sachiru> I can brush my teeth with a toothbrush and I can brush my teeth with steel wool
[01:04] <pr-nizar> I see.. Well Linux is not about the ease of life!
[01:04] <stewart> Just to weight in my thoughts .....booting from iso or cdrom is way easier
[01:04] <Sachiru> Your question is the equivalent of "why not brush your teeth with steel wool? You can do it that way!"
[01:04] <pr-nizar> I could get a windows or a mac.. lol
[01:04] <stewart> Plus even when booting from PXE you need a pre-configured machinge
[01:04] <Sachiru> Also the idea that linux is not about ease of life is bullcrpa
[01:04] <Sachiru> *bullcrap
[01:05] <bluudy_> hello
[01:05] <stewart> Whats up Bluudy
[01:05] <Sachiru> There's a difference between "being different" and "being stupid"
[01:05] <pr-nizar> alright.. so you're telling me to let go..
[01:05] <pr-nizar> ?!
[01:05] <Sachiru> Your question is bordering on the second
[01:05] <Sachiru> I'm telling you
[01:05] <Sachiru> To boot up a CD
[01:05] <Sachiru> And install from there
[01:06] <Sachiru> Instead of using your convoluted and unnecessary procedure
[01:06] <Sachiru> If this is for testing purposes a CD is more than enough and less hassle
[01:06] <bluudy_> guys i need help with something
[01:06] <Sachiru> Why does everyone going here always need help
[01:06] <Sachiru> Can't they just go here to hang out or something?
[01:06]  * Sachiru sighs.
[01:07] <stewart> No doubt, well lets hear the question bluudy
[01:07] <greenman> 
[01:07] <greenman> Hello
[01:07] <greenman> Wow, lots of people in here.
[01:07] <shunya_chakra> hi i have got, 2.66 ghz core i5, ram 4gb, 1 gb graphic card... still feels ubuntu is running slow... pls anyone suggest me something so i can improve the performance
[01:07] <wheresmypaaants> I'm baaack
[01:07] <greenman> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu running.  My googlefu seems to be failing me...
[01:08] <Sachiru> @shunya: SSD
[01:08] <wheresmypaaants> greenman: That's out of my expertise
[01:08] <greenman> When I get the grub prompt, I am greeted with a blank screen
[01:08] <Sachiru> Also ZRAM and tweak the kernel
[01:08] <wheresmypaaants> greenman: Although, if its blank, if you can manage to find a way, reinstall grub
[01:08] <Sachiru> @Greenman could you be a bit more specific?
[01:08] <greenman> I tried adding the nomodeset option to the boot line, but that didn't work
[01:08] <wheresmypaaants> You may do so by using a live CD
[01:08] <bluudy_> when installing ubuntu and encrypt my home folder, the system does not mount SWAP
[01:08] <bluudy_> how could I fix it?
[01:09] <Sachiru> @Bluudy: by "encrypt my home folder" you mean you encrypted /home, or / ?
[01:09] <greenman> Sachiru: When I choose Boot Linux, the screen goes black and nothing happens.
[01:09] <Sachiru> Sometimes people say "encrypt my home folder" when they mean "encrypt /"
[01:09] <FrMcKinsy> Does ubuntu have an rc.shutdown script?
[01:09] <greenman> At least nothing I can see.
[01:10] <OerHeks> man shutdown
[01:10] <stewart> greenman can you boot from a live cd and mount it
[01:10] <mexi_d3_> I just realised what pr-nizar was trying to do.
[01:11] <bluudy_> this is the error "The disk drive for / is not ready yet dev/mapper/cryptswap1 or not present" Now as I do?
[01:11] <greenman> stewart, I guess so.  I just installed the server edition.  I would have to download the livecd and create a new usb drive
[01:11] <greenman> stewart: is that my only option?
[01:11] <bluudy_> not
[01:11] <bluudy_> desktop version
[01:12] <greenman> by the way, if I choose the recovery option at startup, it starts and then stops at ehci-pci 0000:00:04.1 irq22, io mem 0xd3489200
[01:12] <mexi_d3_> Now I think I've worked out how to do it, and he's gone.
[01:12] <trndr> shunya_chakra, 14.04? What video card and drivers?
[01:13] <stewart> greenam this would be last option boot from live cd and exercise the following command sudo mount -t ecryptfs /media/c82ca9fe-2b15-4aca-a98d-6482b1d80a32/home/[USERNAME]/ /home/[USERNAME]/oldhome
[01:13] <stewart> Atleast that I can think of
[01:14] <greenman> stewart: encrypt the drive?  confused
[01:15] <stewart> If memory serves myself correctly that should ask for passphrase only once and mount the drive or image
[01:15] <mexi_d3_> bluudy_, Can you examine the output from a partitioning tool to determine if swap was created?
[01:16] <bluudy_> forum someone said that the problem only occurs when folders are encrypted, they believe that if I reinstall ubuntu unencrypted personal folder does not have this problem with SWAP?
[01:16] <FrMcKinsy> Any clue?
[01:16]  * Consuela hugs.
[01:16] <greenman> I guess I could just install it again...  would be faster than downloading a whole new operating system...
[01:17] <stewart> From personal opinion greenman i will suggest the following even if your using mac // windows // mac
[01:18] <stewart> encrypt or create a 5 gig image for example that is encrypted then add your files that way you host OS will never have issues due to encryption
[01:18] <greenman> I don't use encryption at all
[01:20] <mexi_d3_> stewart, greenman  If you do that (unencrpyed OS, encrpypted data), temporary files and such like created by the OS won't be encrypted and can leak your data
[01:21] <bluudy_> but I have a problem with the encryption, occurred after the last upgrade I've even had problems with buffer
[01:21] <greenman> well crap
[01:21] <greenman> seems I can boot from usb now
[01:21] <greenman> :(
[01:21] <ominomi> Hello. You guys know when you can hold down the super key in Unity and press a number to launch/unminimize the corresponding application; I can only select the first 10 applications at the top of the launcher. Is there a way to select any applications below those top 10?
[01:22] <ominomi> Using numbers, that is
[01:22] <bluudy_> but I have a problem with the encryption occurs after the last upgrade I've even had problems with buffer.then the computer crashes
[01:23] <bluudy_> OMG XD
[01:24] <stewart> Are you hitting swap Bluudy what does htop reveal from terminal
[01:26] <mexi_d3_> bluudy_,  You can swap to a disk file, instead of a partition, if that helps you (if it won't mount the partition)
[01:26] <Gareth_> Hello all. Sorry, but why is it that when running the Software updater and everything seem up-to-date, I still find new updates through apt-get (update + upgrade, etc.)? Thx
[01:26] <stewart> I think thats bluudy issue is pure overhead
[01:27] <EdwardSnowden69> How do I become more private and anonymous on ubuntu?
[01:27] <greenman> Back to the google, I guess
[01:27] <stewart> Who has the boot with a name and question like that
[01:28] <meowkitty666> EdwardSnowden69: I can't help you out with setting it up, but I know you can get Tor to be anonymous online.
[01:29] <Beldar> EdwardSnowden69, That has the sound of a poll, can you phrase an specific support need.
[01:29] <stewart> Did you forget about Tails OS Mr Snowden
[01:29] <Beldar> that is way to general
[01:29] <FrMcKinsy> EdwardSnowden69: query me
[01:31] <FrMcKinsy> Does ubuntu have an rc.shutdown script?
[01:31] <stewart> just shutdown command with options
[01:32] <greenman> Aparently once you've installed ubuntu, you can no longer boot from USB :(
[01:32] <bluudy_> surely refers to as surfing anonymously, I just know tor, freenet, i2p, that peer to peer search engine called YACY and surely the vpn.
[01:32] <greenman> which makes it hard to troubleshoot...
[01:32] <stewart> thats bios option bud
[01:33] <stewart> hit f12, f10, esc, f1, f2 while booting to enter the bios, it should state one of the following commands
[01:33] <Beldar> greenman, That is not true.
[01:33] <aaa801> so, trying to install server x86 on a quad core xeon (old type), whenever i choose install ubuntu from the menu it seems to hang, any ideas?
[01:33] <stewart> try and download the alternative cd or pae version
[01:33] <bluudy_> good bye :)
[01:34] <greenman> Beldar: it seems to be that way on my system.  :)
[01:34] <aaa801> stewart: network boot cd hangs too
[01:34] <stewart> on a few older servers and t42 laptops I had ubuntu hang without downloading pae version due to processor spec
[01:34] <Beldar> greenman, apparently your having a problem, try the per-session menu, the bios splash should tell you the key or keys. I have never had that happen it makes no sense.
[01:35] <aaa801> where can i find the pae version#?
[01:35] <aaa801> aparantly its now standard on 32bit ubuntu
[01:35] <aaa801> so ='/
[01:35] <stewart> Its only present I believe in the alternative cd iso
[01:35] <aaa801> The generic default kernel already has PAE enabled.
[01:35] <Gareth_> Hello all. Sorry, but why is it that when running the Software updater and everything seem up-to-date, I still find new updates through apt-get (update + upgrade, etc.)? Thx
[01:36] <Beldar> aaa801, pae version# the kernel #? what is the end goal?
[01:36] <aaa801> Beldar: to get a os loaded onto this evil server
[01:36] <Mathias> Gareth_: tried running an apt-get update before opening software updater?
[01:36] <stewart> Beldar I believe after 12.04 the pae versions are only available on alternative cds
[01:36] <aaa801> basicaly, i was gifted a quad core xeon 32bit
[01:36] <Beldar> aaa801, I asked two questions.
[01:37] <aaa801> whatevers in the 14.04 server image
[01:37] <greenman> Okay.  I think I can get it to boot from USB
[01:37] <greenman> I have to hit c at grub, then type exit
[01:37] <greenman> And I get the USB menu
[01:37] <Gareth_> Thx Mathias. Shouldn't the Software Updater do this too (part of the automated upate-process)?
[01:37] <greenman> So now I'll download the livecd and see if I can't fix this installation...
[01:37] <greenman> Somehow...
[01:38] <stewart> Just re-install unencrypted prove it works then try encrypted to live on the edge
[01:38] <greenman> stewart: if you're talking to me, I did not install encrypted.
[01:38] <Mathias> Gareth_: i've found that it only runs an update every n days (depends on hopw you have configured it), and relies on that when you open it. so it doesn't do any unecessary updates
[01:38] <greenman> So I doubt that that is my problem.
[01:39] <Mathias> Gareth_: that's my findings though
[01:39] <Beldar> aaa801> whatevers in the 14.04 server image Was this for me?
[01:39] <aaa801> yes
[01:40] <Beldar> aaa801, Then use my nick and I asked, maybe it was not clear, this a kernel # or the pae used #?
[01:40] <FrMcKinsy> No rc.shutdown?
[01:40] <aaa801> im not sure what your asking Beldar
[01:40] <Beldar> aaa801, pae# makes no sense is all.
[01:41] <Gareth_> Mathias: I see. But, still no problem in using apt-get only, right? It still just relies on "Stable" releases, right?
[01:41] <aaa801> your the one who put pae#
[01:42] <Beldar> aaa801, I think you want the kernel used, The same kernel can be a pae or not depends how compiled.
 where can i find the pae version#?
[01:42] <Beldar> Really?
[01:42] <aaa801> ye pae is enabled by default on 32bit i read after
[01:42] <Mathias> Gareth_: software updater is just another front-end for apt-get
[01:42] <aaa801> if you read what i put after
[01:42] <trndr> aaa801, for x86 you need the 32bit version, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-server-i386.iso
[01:43] <aaa801> trndr: i grabbed that, it just hangs when i press enter on install
[01:43] <odsent> so it's not true that it's illegal for 18 year old seniors to fap on an underclassman's naked ass and back [20:35] <odsent> this is so damn triggering [20:35] <odsent> http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/w8zrn/i_fapped_onto_a_naked_girls_ass_and_back_does_it/ [20:35] <odsent> and i can't stop thinking about the girls are monkeys thing [20:35] <odsent> it makes me think of a monkey laying down on a bed while a guy faps on her red as
[01:43] <aaa801> same with network
[01:43]  * aaa801 stares at odsent
[01:43] <Gareth_> Ok, thx for your time and effort Mathias.
[01:43] <Beldar> aaa801, Heh, your obviously un-helpable argueing like this is counter productive, put your ego in the sheath, and I will have to let someone help you.
[01:44] <allen> hey guys
[01:44] <aaa801> what the frek are you on about Beldar
[01:44] <greenman> If the livecd doesn't work, I guess I'll be installing refind.
[01:44] <greenman> I don't want to since Ubuntu is my only system on this box, but if I have to
[01:44] <allen> can someone give me an idea how i might fix my unity desktop, i did the updates it asked for, it said i had to restart the computer, so i did, unity freezes after entering my password now
[01:45] <greenman> allen: Press alt-f2 and login via command line
[01:45] <greenman> then go look at the logs and see if you find any errors
[01:45] <Beldar> allen, Are you using a proprietary graphic driver, if so from where?
[01:46] <allen> beldar no not yet, though i was thinking of installing it lol
[01:46] <Sachiru> Uh
[01:46] <Sachiru> Query
[01:46] <Sachiru> Assume I am an ass.
[01:46] <asdfasdf> Anyone know how long it normally takes for an Ubuntu app to be reviewed and approved?
[01:47] <Beldar> allen, We just had a kernel upgrade, a proprietary would fail as it does not follow a kernel upgrade, try the previous kernel to see if it still works.
[01:47] <Sachiru> User "newuser" disconnects from this channel for some reason (probably spotty wifi). What's to prevent me from changing my nick to "newuser" and doing something worth banning?
[01:47] <asdfasdf> No one on ubuntu-app-devel is responding
[01:47] <Sachiru> To prevent him from logging on here?
 Anyone know how long it normally takes for an Ubuntu app to be reviewed and approved? No specific time.
[01:47] <allen> Beldar how do i try the previous kernel
[01:47] <allen> but i'm not running proprietary driver anyway
[01:47] <Guest75927> Hey i have a problem, when i use 2 screens with my gt440 on ubuntu 14.something it takes a few minutes to show the sidebar, though the background pops up right away
[01:48] <Beldar> allen, At the grub menu, if you are not seeing it, tap shift or hold it down after powering on.
[01:48] <allen> yeah it says i'm using Nouveau display driver
[01:49] <Guest75927> with a single display it takes no time at all
[01:49] <Guest75927> is it just old hardware?
[01:49] <Beldar> allen, Did you add a PPA, does xswat sound familiar?
[01:50] <Beldar> allen, Or xorg
[01:50] <allen> it doesn't sound familiar, but where can i check it
[01:51] <Beldar> allen, /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[01:51] <Beldar> or /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:52] <greenman> I guess I'm trying refind
[01:55] <greenman> grr all the guides assume you're starting from OSX  I'm starting from a broken ubuntu install (I think.  I can't tell if it's broken)
[01:57] <Kyan1> hi
[01:57] <Kyan1> i-m now from a live, is there a way to attach my terminal to the harddisk shell?
[01:58] <Kyan1> to log in as harddrive user?
[01:58] <Beldar> Kyan1, chroot
[01:58] <Kyan1> ?
[01:58] <Beldar> !chroot
[01:58] <FrMcKinsy> Hi Mathias
[01:58] <Beldar> Kyan1, careful expecting hand holding here. ;)
[01:59] <Beldar> that info is all over the web
[01:59] <Kyan1> so i do:
[01:59] <Kyan1> chroot /media/mydir?
[02:00] <Beldar> no read the link
[02:00] <Kyan1> i dont need it
[02:00] <Kyan1> i need somethin to attach to the real shell on the hd
[02:00] <FrMcKinsy> Kyan1: always take care under any expectations
[02:00] <stewart> Any SCSI or Raid 5 guys around....have a software raid5 with no issues but its reporting degraded, when performing hardware diag all drives come back good
[02:01] <Beldar> Kyan1, You want to change the HD in some way within the OS?
[02:02] <Beldar> Kyan1, A more clear description would help.
[02:04] <Mathias> FrMcKinsy: i do know you?
[02:05] <falafel> is there a better IRC client for Ubuntu than Smuxi, what do you guys use?
[02:05] <Beldar> falafel, that is a poll, and best is subjective.
[02:05] <falafel> s/better/alternative
[02:05] <Mathias> might be more suitable for offtopic
[02:07] <falafel> the problem I have with Smuxi is the notifications don't seem to work, is this ontopci?
[02:07] <falafel> *on topic
[02:07] <Mathias> falafel: probably
[02:08] <FrMcKinsy> May i in offtopic?
[02:08] <falafel> I went to Preferences->Notification and enabled "Show always" but it won't. That's why I'm asking for alternatives, any alternatives where desktop notifications work?
[02:09] <xangua> !ot | FrMcKinsy
[02:09] <gr33n7007h> falafel, xchat
[02:09] <falafel> xchat integrates with libonotify?
[02:09] <gr33n7007h> falafel, yep
[02:09] <falafel> ok, I will try that one
[02:10] <Mathias> FrMcKinsy: when you haven't spoken in a while, and you're asking someone specific, it's usually a good idea to hilight that person
[02:10] <Kyan1> im running a live distro, i need to login on /dev/sda1 shell, /dev/sda1 is already mounted, how can i access to that terminal?
[02:10] <impossible>  hey guys can i simply stick an ubuntu cd into my current windows laptop and boot the disc to install alongside windows 8?
[02:11] <jnoob22> Kyan1, what do you mean by "that terminal" ?
[02:11] <Kyan1> /dev/sda1 is an installed UBUNTU
[02:11] <jnoob22> impossible, should be able to. i dont see why not.
[02:11] <Ranieri_> I don't understand mounting filesystems and such
[02:11] <impossible> great just wanted to kknow lol jnhghy
[02:11] <impossible> jnoob22::
[02:11] <jnoob22> Kyan1, you won't be able to "login" to /dev/sda1 from the lice cd
[02:11] <impossible> i think i can too just wanted a quick confirmation
[02:11] <Ranieri_> Any good documentation on that sort of help
[02:12] <FrMcKinsy> Mathias: noted
[02:12] <jnoob22> impossible, if it's the right platform and you have cd boot, why wouldn't you?
[02:12] <jnoob22> :)
[02:12] <impossible> :)
[02:12] <Beldar> Ranieri_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[02:12] <Ranieri_> Thank you Beldar
[02:13] <craigbass1976> what happened to /etc/init.d/network-manager ?  This is how I used to restart the network when my laptop kept trying to get on my home wifi even though I was in a coffee shop somewhere.
[02:13] <jnoob22> mount -t <file system type> //servername/mountname  /path/to/my/mount
[02:13] <jnoob22> done
[02:13] <jnoob22> craigbass1976, look under /etc/init.d
[02:13] <jnoob22> craigbass1976, called something else now
[02:13] <Beldar> Ranieri_, WE do ask though that you try looking, not just come here I used ubuntu mounting filesystems on google all your words without ubuntu and it was at the top of the list
[02:14] <jnoob22> craigbass1976, "networking" I think
[02:14] <craigbass1976> jnoob22: All I saw was networking, and that's what used to be there.  Doesn't do it.
[02:14] <jnoob22> Ranieri_, "mount" should work on any *NIX though :)
[02:15] <jnoob22> craigbass1976, ok sorry... let me dig a bit
[02:15] <jnoob22> craigbass1976, which version of Ubuntu  you on now, mate?
[02:16] <dw1> craigbass1976: service network-manager restart
[02:16] <craigbass1976> dw1: where is the list of services?
[02:17] <dw1> craigbass1976: just run in terminal :P
[02:17] <jnoob22> eh he's not finding that dw1
[02:17] <craigbass1976> I know, but where's the list?
[02:17] <jnoob22> craigbass1976, here's how to list...
[02:17] <jnoob22>  service --status-all
[02:17] <dw1> craigbass1976: service --status-all maybe
[02:17] <craigbass1976> Ahhh...
[02:17]  * craigbass1976 facepalm
[02:18] <jnoob22> heh it wasn't obvious mate ;)
[02:18] <craigbass1976> jnoob22: used to be that service was anything in the /etc/init.d -- you could run it either way, but that was back when I was on Fedora 4.  Ubuntu wasn't doing services at all yet I don't think
[02:19] <jnoob22> Ubuntu's a bit different than any RH variety
[02:19] <jnoob22> including services
[02:19] <dw1> craigbass1976: also initctl list
[02:19] <dw1> craigbass1976: thats where network-manager is, apparently
[02:20] <jnoob22> im on 13.10 and I do have network-manager as dw1 says
[02:20] <jnoob22> service network-manager start
[02:20] <jnoob22> start: Job is already running: network-manager
[02:20] <jnoob22> initctl list | grep -i net
[02:21] <craigbass1976> Thanks folks.
[02:21] <jnoob22> yw mate
[02:24] <The_Ben24> I'm trying to capture a video stream using Cheese and a USB webcam. I've tried two different webcams, but Cheese complains about both, saying "There was an error playing video from the webcam". Does anyone know how to make these work?
[02:25] <holstein> The_Ben24: i would use cheese to test my webcam, and something like vlc to capture a stream
[02:27] <The_Ben24> holstein, I didn't realize VLC did that. Thanks!
[02:28] <gr33n7007h> The_Ben24, "vlc v4l2://" to test webcam
[02:28] <jnoob22> btw, how is vlc working these days? last I tried to use it, i had some very mixed results -- though this was about 3-4 years ago.
[02:30] <allen> Beldar you still here bud ?
[02:32] <mexi_d3_> jnoob22, Does everything, plays everything, usually doesn't crash.
[02:32] <jnoob22> mexi_d3_, that's very cool to know -- was wanting to use it record fixes so I can send them to customers
[02:32] <Beldar> allen, yes.
[02:32] <jnoob22> rather than using proprietary stuff on the mac.
[02:33] <mexi_d3_> jnoob22, vlc media player?
[02:33] <allen> Beldar, i still can't get into unity, i tried the older kernel too
[02:33] <jnoob22> mexi_d3_, yes
[02:33] <mexi_d3_> jnoob22, what's a 'fix'?
[02:33] <allen> should i do a reinstall of the ubuntu desktop ?
[02:34] <jnoob22> mexi_d3_, i work for a software company... I occasionally find fixes for customer's issues... rather than writing them out, it's better to show  :)
[02:34] <mexi_d3_> jnoob22, Oh you mean screen cap how to do something on the computer? OK.
[02:34] <jnoob22> a picture is worth a 1000 words as they say... though I have to admit, I prefer text
[02:34] <jnoob22> mexi_d3_, yes sir :)
[02:34] <holstein> allen: can you "get into unity" as the guest user?
[02:35] <allen> holstein i didn't try that
[02:35] <jnoob22> that way if they say they don't understand what the heck I wrote, i can say "watch" the manual.
[02:35] <Beldar> allen, Ah, bummer, graphics issues if that is what is happening I'm not the best help, all my setups have been intel, so always have worked. However you use the word freeze at the desktop, are you sure, have you tried a tty?
[02:35] <holstein> allen: i usually try removing my user config from the equation before messing with installed applications
[02:35] <Moseco> I got a question about ubuntu 14.04 install. Does it install grub by default or is that something that i need to add on my own later?
[02:35] <jnoob22> grub
[02:35] <mexi_d3_> Moseco, grub2 by default
[02:35] <allen> holstein, gimme a min i'll log out and try it
[02:36] <allen> Beldar, whats tty
[02:36] <jnoob22> it will give you the option to dual boot if it finds something else on your drive(s)
[02:36] <mexi_d3_> Moseco, This assumes you are using the desktop CD
[02:36] <Moseco> mexi_d3_: I dont want it to install, is there a way I can stop it?
[02:36] <Beldar> !tty | allen
[02:36] <jnoob22> allen, another terminal
[02:36] <mexi_d3_> Moseco, Use the alternate installer. You can choose what it does.
[02:36] <Moseco> mexi_d3_: alternate installer?
[02:36] <mexi_d3_> Moseco, However the regular installer might have an option to skip boot loader install. I haven't looked for it.
[02:37] <allen> brb
[02:37] <Moseco> mexi_d3_: Okay, thanks
[02:38] <Beldar> allen, So I'm trying to discover is this a freeze, meaning no tty just frozen, or just a black screen.
[02:39] <Beldar> Moseco, If you use a manual install and point grub to the ubuntu install partition it will not go to the mbr.
[02:40] <Moseco> Beldar: Thanks!
[02:41] <Bjizzle> It seems I've shrunk my partition to 64 GB, created another partition that's 64 GB, installed windows on it. I booted to ubuntu after I installed windows. Now I can't seem to pull up ubuntu.
[02:41] <Beldar> no prob Moseco
[02:41] <holstein> !grub
[02:41] <Bjizzle> Let me see what gparted says
[02:41] <Bjizzle> I know what grub is. I'm unable to access it.
[02:41] <holstein> Bjizzle: ^ specifically recovering grub after installing windows.. if you havnt
[02:41] <holstein> havnet*
[02:42] <Beldar> Bjizzle, " I booted to ubuntu after I installed windows. Now I can't seem to pull up ubuntu." Does this make sense to you
[02:42] <holstein> Bjizzle: no.. if you installed windows and didnt reinstall grub, its gone..
[02:42] <allen> ok back again, still stuck in Mate, i tried guest holstein, it made no difference
[02:42] <Bjizzle> Oh my apologies holstein
[02:43] <holstein> allen: so, no user seems to login to unity? what about tty?
[02:43] <allen> i can log in at the prompt, but unity won't run
[02:43] <allen> hangs at loading opengl from what i can tell
[02:43] <holstein> allen: what did you do?
[02:44] <holstein> allen: do you see a login screen? a graphical login screen? where are you seeing errors about opengl?
[02:44] <allen> holstein, the update manager wanted to do an update today, i let it, then unity didn't work
[02:45] <holstein> allen: open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:45] <holstein> allen: in tty ^
[02:45] <Beldar> allen, Was there any warning of a partial update with the update gui?
[02:45] <allen> Beldar, i didn't notice one, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there
[02:46] <Beldar> allen, ouu get a warning pop up you would probably remember.
[02:46] <Beldar> You*
[02:46] <gr33n7007h> allen, try issuing "sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s ubuntu-2d" in tty then reboot
[02:47] <Bjizzle> Dang, my Ubuntu usb is freezing the entire computer.
[02:47] <Ranieri_> How do I install g++, and then set eclipse to use it?
[02:48] <Beldar> Bjizzle, Black screen on choosing from options gui?
[02:48] <Beldar> If booted
[02:48] <Bjizzle_> No, the whole comp freezes after a minute or so
[02:49] <Beldar> Bjizzle, This a booted usb?
[02:49] <Bjizzle_> Yes
[02:49] <Bjizzle_> I'm trying to use a Ubuntu install usb to use gparted and recover grub
[02:50] <linuxuz3r> how do i minimize the fonts in unity
[02:50] <Beldar> Bjizzle, This the original install usb?
[02:50] <Beldar> Bjizzle_, gparted wont recover grub
[02:51] <Bjizzle_> I know. Those were two separate tasks.
[02:51] <Beldar> cool
[02:52] <linuxuz3r> does anyone know how to minimize my fonts in ubuntu
[02:52] <linuxuz3r> under unity
[02:53] <Beldar> linuxuz3r, WE ask 10 min breaks between posts, crack a cold one we see you. ;)
[02:55] <chris__> Anyone got any experience troubleshooting why rutorrent is giving me a 404.  /var/log/error.log doesn't show any errors, but /var/log/access.log does show the 404 errors when I attempt to access the site.  Other than that, I can't find a single error....
[02:56] <syeekick> in the terminal to increase font size is ctrl++ what the deuce does that mean
[02:56] <syeekick> thank you please
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> i got to install gnome-tweak tool
[02:58] <holstein> chris__: to "access the site"? what site? http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[02:59] <Ben64> syeekick: control plus +
[02:59] <syeekick> sorr?
[02:59] <syeekick> it doesn't do anything
[02:59] <bryguy_> Using 14.04 after updates today glx extensions are missing on nvidia 331.38 drivers. Nvidia settings menu still works incl twinview but no 3d. Anyone else see this/know how to fix it?
[02:59] <chris__> holstein, my local rutorrent install
[02:59] <syeekick> it's a stupid question i know, but it really does nothing
[03:00] <Ben64> syeekick: works here, maybe it doesn't work on whichever terminal you're using
[03:00] <holstein> chris__: is accessing what site?
[03:00] <syeekick> so i hold down ctrl and tap +
[03:00] <chris__> holstein, Nothing external to my network.  It is a local site
[03:01] <meowkitty666> is there a different channel for Ubuntu Server or is ALL Ubuntu questions asked in here?
[03:01] <holstein> chris__: is it up? can you ping it? is there a firewall issue?
[03:01] <Ben64> meowkitty666: there is an #ubuntu-server
[03:01] <holstein> !server | meowkitty666
[03:01] <holstein> but, you can ask here
[03:01] <meowkitty666> Ben64: Thanks !
[03:01] <syeekick> Ben64,  i done it its ctrl+shift++ next to the backspace key
[03:02] <Ben64> syeekick: yep, thats where the + key is
[03:03] <Guest50541> VLC only seems to record a few seconds, and I'm not sure why.
[03:03] <syeekick> i was thinking numpad, :) i had a few freinds who were confused too
[03:04] <holstein> Guest50541: try relaxing whatever your settings are.. try a simpler target file
[03:04] <Guest50541> holstein, What do you mean by a simpler target file?
[03:05] <holstein> Guest50541: what are you making?
[03:06] <Guest50541> holstein, A test video. I record for thirty seconds, then try to play it back and have only a few seconds of footage.
[03:06] <holstein> Guest50541: what is the test video?
[03:06] <holstein> Guest50541: what kind of target file?
[03:06] <Guest50541> holstein, A .webm file with no custom settings.
[03:07] <holstein> Guest50541: ok.. try a simpler one
[03:07] <Guest50541> holstein, I don't understand. Simpler how?
[03:08] <holstein> Guest50541: Guest50541 not webm.. basically, try a different type, if you havent
[03:12] <Guest50541> holstein, Okay, I tried .ogg. The video is now the correct length, but has no motion after the first two seconds.
[03:13] <allen> hey guys, i have tried all i can find in the forums, to no avail :(
[03:13] <Guest50541> allen, What is the issue?
[03:14] <allen> Guest50541, i did the update today, and now i can't log in to unity, just get the background nothing loads
[03:14] <holstein> allen: when you ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in tty, were there any errors?
[03:15] <holstein> allen: what background? the background is *something*
[03:15] <allen> holstein, no errors
[03:15] <holstein> allen: i have been assuming unity is not loading
[03:15] <allen> the login goes away, but it just hangs after that
[03:15] <holstein> allen: what *exactly* is happening?
[03:15] <Beldar> allen, This 14.04?
[03:15] <allen> this is 14.04 yes
[03:15] <holstein> allen: did you do any steps to reset unity?
[03:15] <linuxuz3r> anyone here running devstack
[03:16] <holstein> allen: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[03:16] <allen> holstein i tried to reinstall unity, but it said i have the newest verion
[03:16] <holstein> allen: if thats the message you got, then, you tried to install unity, and got that message. thats *not* reinstalling
[03:17] <allen> holstein, ok my mistake, i thought thats what i was doing however lol
[03:17] <holstein> allen: please try resetting with the above guide.. did you try running the 2d mode as suggested?
[03:17] <allen> i'm pretty new to this, just in my second week of running it, and its been super smooth until this.
[03:17] <Beldar> +1 trying reset
[03:17] <holstein> allen: it would be best if you didnt go copy pasting commands in from the internet as well
[03:17] <holstein> allen: things happen. you should *always* have backupes, just as you should with any operating system
[03:18] <allen> oh i have backups, thats not a worry, i just don't want to reload if i can avoid it.
[03:18] <allen> and its frustrating because Mate is working, just not my unity
[03:18] <holstein> allen: mate requires a ppa
[03:19] <abaddon> hey guys, how do you create users with default options and config files?
[03:19] <holstein> allen: thats can break your system
[03:19] <Beldar> !info mate-desktop
[03:19] <holstein> allen: if you are "new to all this" and want flawless ubuntu performance, dont add ppa's
[03:19] <Beldar> in trusty no ppa
[03:19] <holstein> allen: did you add a ppa? or are you using the one from the repos?
[03:20] <allen> holstein, ppa
[03:20] <holstein> allen: the, consider purging.. that can break your system.. or just use mate if thats what you added the ppa for
[03:21] <Beldar> holstein, I believe mate is in trusty
[03:21] <abaddon> For instance, when I create a user I want it to have the Desktop dir already set up and I want the config folder to have some pre-set settings to be added too
[03:22] <Viking667> Uhm, I've just tried to log into gnome-shell, all I get is a mousepointer and a black screen. Where do I go from here?
[03:22] <holstein> Beldar: i agree.. but, i assumed, and allen reported adding a PPA
[03:22] <Viking667> i.e. how could I "reset" my gnome-shell session back to defaults?
[03:22] <Beldar> holstein, It happens, mate was added to quell the gnome 2 people.
[03:24] <butter_worm> something about copying the user directory to another location
[03:25] <Viking667> ugh. My user directory is over 100Gb.
[03:26] <butter_worm> cap user dir to 32mb
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> Viking667, You have proprietary graphics?
[03:26] <Viking667> nope.
[03:27] <Viking667> This only just started happening today...
[03:27] <Viking667> I had about a week of working gnome-shell (32-bit 14.04)
[03:27] <holstein> Viking667: not your peronsal files..those wont reset gnome. just theconfig files reset gnome
[03:27] <Viking667> and now it doesn't.
[03:28] <Viking667> so, .cache/, .config/ and ... what else? does the system still use .gnome?
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> Viking667, I had a kernel upgrade in 14.04, have you checked the previous kernel, if you had this update?
[03:28] <holstein> Viking667: if "it" just randmoly happened today, id try testing the system.. the hard drive, and memory
[03:28] <Viking667> was running when I upgraded the kernel.
[03:28] <Viking667> just give me a minute, I'm logging in using Unity (the only thing that seems to work at the moment)
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> Viking667, That means nothing a kernel upgrade does not affect the running OS till you reboot.
[03:29] <Viking667> I rebooted after installing the kernel. Come on, I'm not a total n00b
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> Viking667, Use nicks here, you are not new.
[03:29] <holstein> it literally wont hurt to try booting the older kernel, if you havent
[03:33] <ausjke> again upgrade from 39 to 41 broke win7 inside virtualbox, tried various vbox versions, built all modules, tried reinstall win7, no luck. had to find a win xp and that works.
[03:34] <ausjke> ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64b that is
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> ausjke, 39 to 41 what
[03:34] <ausjke> kernel
[03:35] <ausjke> 3.8.0-41-generic
[03:35] <holstein> ausjke: so, you boot the 39 kernel and all is well?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> ausjke, That does not make must sense.
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> much
[03:36] <holstein> not sure what modules you are building.. you mean, you are using virtualbox from the site? and not the repos?
[03:36] <ausjke> i used the default 4.1.2
[03:36] <ausjke> then tried the newest 4.3 release
[03:36] <ausjke> build guest-addition modules and install them
[03:36] <ausjke> no help
[03:36] <holstein> ausjke: so, when you tru kernel 3.8.0.39, all is well?
[03:36] <Viking667> sorry, just came back... use nick ... to who?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> !who | Viking667
[03:37] <ausjke> holstein: was running well last night with .39
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> every post to another
[03:37] <ausjke> but no more this morning after the .41 upgrade, not even with .39
[03:37] <Viking667> whoops, sorry. Got several things on my mind. My apologies.
[03:37] <holstein> ausjke: sure.. and, if the issue was the kernel upgrade, booting the older kernel would "fix" it
[03:37] <ausjke> meanwhile win7 had a upgrade at the same time
[03:37] <Ben64> ausjke: well you'll need to use the packages from the official ubuntu repositories to get support in this channel
[03:37] <ausjke> Ben64: yeah tried hard with 4.1.x indeed
[03:38] <holstein> ausjke: i think you are assuming the kernel upgrade is the issue.. you shouldnt need to rebuild any modules using the repo version of virtualbox.. try it
[03:38] <ausjke> anyways after fighting with it for a whole day i'm back to winxp, that seems working
[03:38] <allen> holstein, that tool does not appear to have worked, how do i "reinstall" my unity since i obviously didn't do it right
[03:38] <ausjke> holstein: i tried the default vbox, it worked until this morning
[03:38] <ausjke> anyways i guess i really don't know what happened
[03:39] <holstein> ausjke: ok.. let us know if you have a support question
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> i recently install lubuntu 14.04 on a box and had to manualy add nm-applet to startup items, is this a known issue for lubuntu?
[03:39] <abaddon> hey guys, how do you create users with default options and config files?
[03:39] <abaddon> For instance, when I create a user I want it to have the Desktop dir already set up and I want the config folder to have some pre-set settings to be added too
[03:39] <ausjke> came back from a trip(3 weeks), upgraded ubuntu(96packges) and upgraded win7 inside the virtualbox, then after a reboot win7 is gone
[03:39] <ausjke> win7 complains some wierd explorer stop working thing even with a fresh install
[03:39] <holstein> abaddon: i just use adduser command.. but there are GUI tools
[03:40] <ausjke> google hints it might be a fgrlx related issue and I tried that too
[03:40] <holstein> ausjke: not sure what you mean "win7 is gone"
[03:40] <ausjke> win7 boots up, immediately said explorer stopped working
[03:40] <holstein> the guest is either there, or not.. nothing about ubuntu removes guests in virtualbox
[03:41] <ausjke> which means i can not do anything other than ctrl-alt-del
[03:41] <abaddon> holstein, sure, and that's fine. but what about having it set a default look? Say I like a particuler theme to stay accross the bord. how do i do that?
[03:41] <holstein> abaddon: thats how i do that.. i just make a user.. the defaults are applied
[03:42] <holstein> abaddon: if you want a particular different thing, you can change them afterwards.. put what you like in place
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> ausjke, As a long shot have you installed dkms, your scenario does have no legit cause and effect between the two OS is all.
[03:42] <ausjke> to make my day worse, yahoo mail is down, time to try fastmail.fm
[03:42] <ausjke> wilee-nilee: yes dkms installed
[03:42] <abaddon> holstein, right, but what if i set up xfce-panel a particuler way and the defaults stick rather than the way i trully want 'em topo?
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> cool
[03:43] <holstein> ausjke: this is the ubuntu support channel.. use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for ot discussion
[03:43] <abaddon> i'm using a live sys and i want the settings to stick when I install the os
[03:43] <ausjke> i even rebuilt all ofthe dkms with ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools | sudo xargs -n1 /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start
[03:43] <abaddon> holstein,  i'm using a live sys and i want the settings to stick when I install the os
[03:43] <holstein> abaddon: copy in what you "truly want" them to be, after you make the user
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, Does not work that way.
[03:44] <Viking667> I'll have to come back later, when I've bounced gnome-shell's head into jelly. Unity works. Ubuntustudio works, no idea what that uses for a WM yet..
[03:44] <holstein> abaddon: you can try saving the configs.. i wouldnt.. i would install, and set things are you like..
[03:44] <holstein> Viking667: that? ubuntustudio? xfce
[03:44] <holstein> !xfce
[03:45] <Viking667> thanks
[03:45] <holstein> Viking667: did you add a PPA for gnome?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> abaddon: maybe some relevant ideas here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36671/how-do-i-pre-install-ubuntu-for-someone-oem-install
[03:45] <Viking667> nope, I don't think I did.
[03:45] <Viking667> I'm beginning to wish I had, apparently 14.04 is behind on gnome release
[03:46] <holstein> Viking667: its not really .. all versions are exactly as promised.. and as released
[03:46] <abaddon> holstein, well, I've set it up as I like. but if i create a new user it doesn't transfer over. I mean, ubuntu keeps it's look once installed. how do i do that
[03:47] <holstein> Viking667: ubuntu is not a "rolling release", so things dont update like that. they just get security updates, mostly, unless something gets backported
[03:47] <abaddon> lotuspsychje, thx, looks interesting and promising
[03:47] <holstein> abaddon: as i said, copy the config
[03:47] <Viking667> Gnome has apparently release 3.12 for some few months now, if I remember them saying. 14.04 got 3.10 of gnome, if I've read the release versions right.
[03:47] <holstein> abaddon: when you create a new user, put that config in place
[03:47] <holstein> !backport
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> abaddon: also look at ubuntu 'unattended' install, maybe they have a way to preinstall configs for users aswell
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, You can make a custom iso.
[03:48] <Viking667> I've deliberately left backports alone. I'd heard they had the potential to cause issues of their own.
[03:48] <holstein> Viking667: im just letting you know, thats the idea.. 14.04 will get behind.. and stay behind intentionally, as planned, and indicated, and promised
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> are not backports only open when in development?
[03:48] <abaddon> holstein, XD I want it to copy over automatically. Doesn't ubu use a template from which it makes the user and conf files? I don't want to copy it over once setup. i want it to go over when the user puts in their creds
[03:49] <holstein> Viking667: if you want a newer version of an application in an older version of ubuntu, you do it on your own.. backporting is one of the safer ways
[03:49] <abaddon> lotuspsychje, i saw that function. But then people can't chng time-zones during install
[03:49] <The_NetZ> hey. anyone can tell me the current ruby on current ubuntu?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> abaddon: the whole point of seperate users is because each user should be left the choice of own settings
[03:50] <holstein> abaddon: it wont copy over, just randomly, the settings you create in a live user.. the system will make the user as designed, and you can copy in what you like
[03:50] <holstein> !info ruby
[03:50] <The_NetZ> seriously? still in 1.9.x?
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> abaddon: you could aptoncd your favorite packages for each user, but not sure howto automate configs
[03:51] <holstein> The_NetZ: as i was explaing. ubuntu is not a rolling release
[03:51] <Squidle> exit
[03:52] <The_NetZ> holstein: I know, lol.
[03:52] <Viking667> holstein: I'd heard that while it may be "safe", it's only "safe" to a certain degree.
[03:52] <abaddon> lotuspsychje, I get that. but the prob is my iso once installed on a sys with a created user wont launch anything when in the acc because it didn't bring over any config files. I want a standard look that i designed to be implimented for each new user. from there they then can edit to hearts contint
[03:53] <Viking667> recentl (at least in the past four or five years) I've tried to stick to what's in the package manager rather than sew extra things in from tarballs and non-native.
[03:53] <abaddon> holstein, precisly, how do you change the system template to fit your wants?
[03:53] <holstein> Viking667: im not suggesting you use them. im only letting you know how you will get a newer version of gnome
[03:53] <Viking667> anyhow, I've found something that'll work, so gnome-shell can just go jump for this release.
[03:54] <holstein> abaddon: as explained above.. making your own live CD..
[03:54] <Viking667> and I refuse to use Unity. At least gnome-shell's dock had the decency to hide itself. Unity? as if.
[03:54] <holstein> Viking667: i dont see anyone suggesting unity to you
[03:56] <abaddon> holstein,  check, what's next?
[03:56] <nicksloan> I wrote an upstart job. I'm calling setuid deploy, but shell commands run in don't have $HOME set at all
[03:56] <holstein> abaddon: not sure what you are asking, friend. just make the live CD that you want..
[03:56] <nicksloan> is that normal?
[03:57] <Viking667> holstein: plenty of people that recommend Ubuntu might like Unity, as it's what's default. I disliked it intensely after a month of use back in 12.10, I see they've made some improvements, but not enough for me to choose it over anything else.
[03:57] <allen> holstein, is it possible to reinstall unity, and then will you help me remove the ppa's etc so i don't get in this bind again ?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> abaddon: how about you find a package that can backup all settings for one user, then recover that backup for multiple users?
[03:58] <holstein> Viking667: no one is suggesting it.. try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for discussion and chat
[03:58] <abaddon> holstein, Sorry, i'm doing my best to explain. XD OK. How about this. I've got my live cd setup with a generic user. lets call it user1. when I have the person install my OS the settings for user1 need to swap over as a generic template for the account the person creates.
[03:58] <holstein> allen: im about to leave
[03:59] <holstein> allen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[03:59] <allen> if i can get it fixed, i can wait until tomorrow on the ppa's etc
[03:59] <holstein> allen: you can use any package manager to reinstall what you like.. but, i dont think thats the issue
[04:00] <abaddon> holstein, it doesn't swap over though. that's the issue. and the way my os is designed it needs at least .xsession cpd over to get a few things launched since i don't use an session-mngr
[04:00] <abaddon> how can i do that
[04:00] <holstein> abaddon: you create whatever kind of system you like, friend.. the live CD will be your operating system.. when a user creates a user, it will have whatever defaults you made
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> abaddon: check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25633/how-to-migrate-user-settings-and-data-to-new-machine
[04:01] <holstein> allen: it could be ppa packages that are causing your breakages
[04:01] <abaddon> holstein, that's the issue,lol. it wont keep my settings and apply it to the new user
[04:02] <holstein> abaddon: then, you are not implementing it properly..
[04:02] <abaddon> hodgie, clearly XD BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[04:02] <allen> k holstein thanks
[04:02] <abaddon> lotuspsychje, mmmmm, not exactly what i need but much like it
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> abaddon: you might wanna ask the #ubuntu-server guys for a way to automate users configs aswell
[04:04] <linuxuz3r> hi i have a ubuntu vm how do i get a vnc connection from my macbook pro
[04:05] <dan2> linuxuz3r: x11vnc or vino might help
[04:05] <abaddon> lotuspsychje, do i just type "/join #ubuntu-server" ?
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> abaddon: yes
[04:06] <Ranieri_> How would I write c++ programs on Ubuntu?
[04:07] <abaddon> lotuspsychje, holstein ok, thanks guys. sorry if i pickd the wrong chat. Yall' have been great. wish me luck!!
[04:07] <gr33n7007h> Ranieri_, how do you mean?
[04:09] <linuxuz3r> dan2, is there a x11vnc server that i need to setup on my ubuntu vm?
[04:10] <dan2> linuxuz3r: it's a package
[04:18] <Viking667> hm. Now this is interesting.
[04:18] <Viking667> xfce's wm thinks my desktop is 1920x1080, yet xrandr reports that the screen is 1360x768 (the resolution I chose).
[04:20] <Viking667> intriguingly... I have a funny idea something's broken.
[04:23]  * [gnubie] waves
[04:25] <[gnubie]> in LVM, is it possible to create a VG from a raw file?
[04:26] <gt8ost4l> anyone know of a good graphics program
[04:26] <Ben64> gimp?
[04:26] <gt8ost4l> gimp is not really for graphics
[04:27] <dw1> uhh what
[04:30] <Viking667> gt8ost4l: depends upon what you need the graphics program to do.
[04:30] <Tohsh> having some issues with a clean install of 14.04 server, freezes up when trying to add swap during boot
[04:31] <gr33n7007h> gt8ost4l, blender
[04:31] <Viking667> hehehe...
[04:31] <gt8ost4l> just normal graphics its for a website i'm gonna create soon
[04:31] <newshound> gimp is capable enough
[04:31] <Viking667> then gimp will do fine.
[04:32] <Viking667> if you're interested in vector graphics, Inkscape is worth a look too.
[04:32] <Viking667> right. I've figured something out. Ubuntu thinks that my total desktop size is 2384x768, even though I've disabled the VGA (1024x768) monitor.
[04:33] <Viking667> So, how do I "persuade" it to use just the primary monitor's size as the "desktop" size without beating it to death with a brick?
[04:37] <netsecadmin> For some reason after installing gnome three all my system fonts have changed and boot screen. I cannot get back to the default. I have restarted, restarted lightdm, tried apt-get remove/purge/autoremove "gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop", and I dont know what else to do. Any chance you guys could help me?
[04:38] <netsecadmin> 14.04 LTS by the way
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> Tohsh, Have you checked fstab has the right uuid?
[04:41] <Tohsh> wilee-nilee, I've verified the UUID's match with blkid, if I set nomodeset on the kernel it boots fine.
[04:42] <Tohsh> I just never had any issues with 13.xx.
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> Tohsh, Without  an X environment is that not enough
[04:42] <Tohsh> What do you mean?
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> Tohsh, NO desktop.
[04:42] <Tohsh> its fine, I'm just curious as to why its happening now
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> Tohsh, Not sure myself, but when asking include all that.
[04:43] <Tohsh> running 14.04 server with nothing installed currently. no desktop, just openssh-server
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> needing nomodeset to boot
[04:44] <Tohsh> correct
[04:45] <Tohsh> all my partitions were also wiped, started everything fresh. I tried manually creating my partitions as well as using the guided option and both fail on adding swap during boot without "nomodeset"
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> Tohsh, Just saying had all that been there we would never had talked. ;) More details the better.
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> Tohsh, You might ask in #ubuntu-server to
[04:46] <Tohsh> wilee-nilee, thanks
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> no prob best of luck. ;)
[04:49] <dboot> Hello, is anybody here?
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> 1700 or more
[04:50] <dboot> Lots of people... I have a couple of questions about installing Ubuntu on my computer. Is this the right place to ask?
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> dboot, Yes
[04:51] <dboot> wilee-nilee: I want to install Ubuntu on my Sony laptop. It boots using UEFI. For some reason, Sony did some magic with the booting process instead of using standard boot procedures, and Ubuntu isn't able to dual boot on the laptop
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | dboot
[04:52] <dboot> wilee-nilee: Yep. I've been there and done that. Didn't work
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> dboot, More orientation to possibilities info. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> dboot, Didn't work, means nothing
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> here anyway ;)
[04:53] <dboot> wilee-nilee: taking a look at your second link
[04:53] <Bitwise> Hi. How long should it take to shrink a 3TB partition to 2TB if it has about 1.26 TB of data already on it?
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Bitwise, hard to say,
[04:54] <Bitwise> 7200 RPM of course
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> 3.9999 millennium
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:55] <Bitwise> wilee-nilee, Would you estimate more or less than an hour?
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> Bitwise, I can't no, don;t paint yourself into a corner if you have only an hour
[04:56] <Bitwise> wilee-nilee, I have all the time in the world.
[04:56] <Bitwise> I'm just curious.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> cool, me to generally
[05:10] <BlackDalek> I need help creating a name.desktop launcher icon for an app. The app I want to launch is of type executable (application/x-executable) and I can launch it from command line with ./filename while I am in the path where the app is located. What information do I need to add to the Exec= line in my .desktop file?
[05:12] <BlackDalek> I have tried Exec=.~/pathtofile/file and Exec=./~/pathtofile/file but neither work.
[05:14] <BlackDalek> I've also tried Exec=~/pathtofile/filename
[05:15] <Viking667> try Exec="$HOME/path/to/filename"
[05:15] <BlackDalek> ok
[05:16] <Viking667> incidentally, you don't need the .~ or ./~   as neither of those make sense.
[05:17] <Viking667> BlackDalek: I suspect it's that first . that's throwing things off.
[05:18] <AcidRain2012> huh...
[05:18] <AcidRain2012> im using ubuntu 12.04. KDE, .htaccess files wont show up in dolphin
[05:20] <BlackDalek> Viking667, didn't work.. I just get "There was an error launching the application" :(
[05:21] <Viking667> BlackDalek: hm. In the desktop configuration panel, there should be a "Launch in terminal"
[05:21] <Viking667> tick that, see what happens.
[05:22] <Viking667> (when you relaunch)
[05:22] <Viking667> bah, I'm not making myself very clear. What are you using to alter the .desktop file with?
[05:23] <BlackDalek> Viking667, what desktop configuration panel? I am editing with gedit (gksu gedit name.desktop)
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> ~/=home
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, that should be gksudo
[05:26] <BlackDalek> gksu still works. what's the difference between using gksu or gksudo?
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, I don't know the exact details, however ubuntu says gksudo
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> says use
[05:28] <ianorlin> wierd they share the same manpage
[05:28] <SchrodingersScat> I'm confused on the permissions of desktop files now.
[05:28] <hakanfast> according to ksysguard my notebook has over 9000 temperature sensors (slight exaggeration): http://i.imgur.com/pHj3Csf.png   how do I find out what is what? I'm especially interested in GPU temp.
[05:28] <Viking667> BlackDalek: look for a Terminal=false  line.
[05:28] <Viking667> change that to true
[05:28] <Viking667> save the .desktop file back, then try clicking on the icon for it again.
[05:29] <BlackDalek> Viking667, ok I thought that should be false. I will change it.
[05:29] <Viking667> I'm making it "True" so you can see if it's the .desktop or the program itself that can't start.
[05:32] <BlackDalek> Viking667, result is exactly the same. "There was an error launching the application". What was the expected result of changing Terminal=false to true?
[05:32] <Viking667> I expected to see a Terminal launched.
[05:32] <Viking667> pfft.
[05:32] <Viking667> can you pastebin the .desktop file?
[05:32] <Viking667> !pastebin
[05:32] <SchrodingersScat> why does a .desktop need to be root? -Shatner
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> lol
[05:35] <BlackDalek> SchrodingersScat,  the .desktop file is located in /usr/share/applications and it won't let me edit it without gksu
[05:35] <SchrodingersScat> BlackDalek: thanks
[05:36] <ARM9> just installed xubuntu, installation went seemingly fine and all but windows 8 is giving me trouble, I still boot straight into it even with secure boot and fast start disabled
[05:36] <BlackDalek> Viking667, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7534283/
[05:36] <ARM9> no grub in sight
[05:36] <auvajs> hi, how to let the sort program use Czech alphabet? when I do some sorting it uses English alphabet (apparently)
[05:37] <ARM9> although I did have fast start enabled during installation of xubuntu, I turned it off afterwards but I don't see how that should be an issue
[05:37] <nullbyte_> how long is dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdd?
[05:37] <ARM9> do I need to boot into the liveUSB again and install grub manually or something? any ideas
[05:37] <SchrodingersScat> nullbyte_: as long as it needs to
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> ARM9, Use this app just run the bootinfo summary and post it at the thread I post. This channel is not the best UEFI help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[05:39] <ARM9> I see
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> ARM9, there are a handful of people who know this stuff is all here regularly
[05:40] <Viking667> BlackDalek: hm.   remove the ' out of Quick 'N Easy
[05:41] <Viking667> also, remove the \  in between the quotes of the Exec line. You don't need them
[05:41] <BlackDalek> Viking667, won't that make the path wrong?
[05:41] <Viking667> nope. The path doesn't have \ in it anyhow.
[05:41] <BlackDalek> Viking667, ignore my last comment.. was looking at wrong section ;)
[05:42] <Viking667> yah.
[05:42] <Viking667> also, are you SURE you have the spelling right in the exec line? Linux IS case sensitive.
[05:43] <Viking667> one way to find out is to do this:   cd "$HOME/Quick\ and\ Easy\ Web\ Builder/qnewb"
[05:43] <BlackDalek> Viking667, path is correct case (copy & pasted directly from path in terminal)
[05:43] <Viking667> If that fails, then you have a spelling mistake.
[05:43] <Viking667> Ah.
[05:43] <Viking667> weird.
[05:43] <Viking667> could you start a Terminal for me please?
[05:43] <abhisek> hi guys
[05:43] <Viking667> and type into it
[05:44] <abhisek> can we implement DICOM/HL 7 protocol on ubuntu server?
[05:44] <Viking667> BlackDalek: type this:   "${HOME}/Quick and Easy Web Builder/qnewb"   then hit enter.
[05:44] <Viking667> pretty much, cut and paste from this IRC session into your terminal
[05:45] <BlackDalek> Viking667, that caused app to launch successfully.
[05:45] <Viking667> hm.
[05:46] <_1_luis> español
[05:46] <ARM9> wilee-nilee, actually I'll just boot into my live xubuntu usb and install boot-repair there, brb
[05:46] <Viking667> !espanol
[05:46] <RWOverdijk> uhu
[05:46] <Viking667> Ah, add this line:     Version=1.0
[05:47] <Viking667> BlackDalek: , add this line:     Version=1.0
[05:47] <Viking667> then save it, then try launching again
[05:47] <BlackDalek> Viking667, what does Version=1.0 do? and what should I have after my Exec= now?
[05:47] <RustyShackleford> anybody else using Chrome on ubuntu?
[05:47] <RustyShackleford> it's crashing all the time for me
[05:48] <Viking667> your exec line is correct.
[05:48] <RustyShackleford> usually when lots of tabs are open
[05:48] <Viking667> BlackDalek: sorry, your Exec line is correct. The Version provides something sane to the little .desktop parser
[05:50] <BlackDalek> Viking667, addition of Version=1.0 made no difference. Also the gedit highlighting for that line looks odd like it is incorrect... the 1 is black and the .0 is in pink...
[05:51] <Viking667> weird.
[05:51] <Viking667> tell you what.
[05:52] <Viking667> As you've clearly got a desktop available to you, what are you using for a WM or desktop manager?
[05:52] <Viking667> Gnome? Unity? KDE? Gnome-classic? lxde?
[05:52] <BlackDalek> Viking667, unity in ubuntu 14.04
[05:53] <Viking667> ouch.
[05:54] <Viking667> I have a crazy suggestion.
[05:54] <Viking667> BlackDalek: you've got other .desktop files on your system. You could load one of those up into gedit, copy it out to a spare.desktop
[05:54] <BlackDalek> Viking667, how crazy? Will I lose  limb?
[05:55] <Viking667> then edit that spare.desktop   so you remove all the Comment[zh_ZH]=... and so on.
[05:56] <Viking667> edit the Exec line to use "/home/yourusername/Quick and Easy Web Builder/qnewb"
[05:56] <abaddon> holstein, I found it after some clever word searching on the net. =] To get what I was looking for i needed to add my setting files to /etc/skel
[05:56] <Viking667> I have a funny feeling variables may not be getting parsed as variables.
[06:00] <Viking667> BlackDalek: so, have you used:  Exec="/home/yourname/Quick and Easy Web Builder/qnewb"   yet?
[06:01] <BlackDalek> Viking667, that Exec line worked. App launched
[06:02] <Viking667> good. Then you're good to go.
[06:02] <Viking667> Next time, I can remember that $HOME doesn't get parsed.
[06:03] <Viking667> I just wish that Unity gave us some way to actually edit those .desktop files with a pretty little GUI.
[06:03] <BlackDalek> Viking667, apparently neither does ~/
[06:03] <Viking667> yeah. Because it's treating it as literal ~, instead of translating that into /home/youruser... which is what /usr/bin/bash or /bin/dash would do.
[06:04] <Viking667> sigh. Sorry I sent you around the mulberry bush. But we got there in the end.
[06:05] <BlackDalek> Viking667, thanks ;)
[06:06] <abaddon> ok, anyone know how to nest a menu group into another group for xfce?
[06:07] <abaddon> Ie, Settings then in Settings there are options such as system
[06:09] <abaddon> i've tried editing the desktop files in /usr/share/applications AND /usr/share/sumthin-Desktop  to no avail and menu groups just wont go in where I want them
[06:10] <Polyatomic> Ubuntu Saucy : can anyone help me manually force 'echo' to not interpret escape sequences per default?
[06:10] <larrypg> abaddon, have you tried settings manager- main menu- new seperator- new item?
[06:11] <Viking667> Ah well, I've at least got gnome-shell working again, though I'm still not sure how.
[06:14] <abaddon> larrypg, ??? Sorry, I don't understand? I tried one option where i had settings.directory and then adding settings-System.desktop. from there i set the settings in it to what it should be. I then edited an test.desjtop file to see if it'd appear in the sub folder within the menu
[06:14] <abaddon> larrypg,  it keeps going to "other.desktop" or just other
[06:15] <larrypg> abaddon, you are using xubuntu?
[06:15] <abaddon> nope, ubuntu with a minimal xfce setup. ie just the wm n panel
[06:15] <abaddon> larrypg,  nope, ubuntu with a minimal xfce setup. ie just the wm n panel
[06:16] <larrypg> abaddon, oh- not sure about that then
[06:17] <abaddon> XD This is the ubu support pg. if i were using xubuntu id go to xubuntu support,lol
[06:17] <abaddon> larrypg,  XD This is the ubu support pg. if i were using xubuntu id go to xubuntu support,lol
[06:18] <woof-woof> I did "chown -R root:root /usr". And looks like I am in trouble... Anyway to revert this?
[06:19] <woof-woof> Ah, just login as root.. SOLVED!
[06:22] <ARM9> so uh, I can't find boot-repair in the ubuntu software center (xubuntu 14.04)
[06:22] <ARM9> is there a way to access the old package manager (the one without all the fancy cruft)?
[06:25] <Loshki> ARM9: This is why I don't use GUIs much: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#A2nd_option_:_install_Boot-Repair_in_Ubuntu
[06:26] <ARM9> oh, it's not even in the default repos, gotcha
[06:43] <CrowX-> how can I install ubuntu without rewriting the home directory?
[06:43] <CrowX-> I would like to keep the home directory I used for another distro
[06:43] <CrowX-> it's on a separate partition
[06:44] <CrowX-> is there an option for this in the install process?
[06:44] <bloatedbayesian> What do you mean seperate partition?
[06:44] <minimec> CrowX-: It' something like 'do other things' -> manual partitining tool.
[06:45] <minimec> CrowX-: There you can decide NOT to format the /home partition
[06:45] <CrowX-> ok, thanks
[06:45] <helmut_> hi
[06:45] <bloatedbayesian> If your home directory is on a separate partition then... oh, Ubuntu. Missed that.
[06:45] <ARM9> pretty much, you'll be able to see your old home partition from the new install, unless it's protected in some way
[06:46] <ARM9> heck I can see my windows partition from here
[06:46] <bloatedbayesian> Yeah what minimec said.
[06:46] <bloatedbayesian> Well most stuff does support NTFS, ARM9.
[06:46] <bloatedbayesian> It's Windows that can't EXT.
[06:46] <ARM9> sort of
[06:51] <pfifo> why do i have to nontoctal click the title bar of a window to trigger restore/maximize? Double click dosent seem to be taken by any function.
[06:52] <Viking667> aaaargh. xfce doesn't seem to set the background, even when I select it. Gnome-shell has display issues of the background when the resolutions' not what the monitor can display.
[06:52] <Viking667> I'm getting frustrated as heck with gnome-shell and its shenanigans, and I'm beginning to smell a rat.
[07:01] <ARM9> somehow 600MiB ram feels a bit overkill for 10 tabs (firefox 29)
[07:05] <ARM9> is there any way to display dependencies in ubuntu software center? I click install and it just begins churning deps without asking or displaying them
[07:05] <ARM9> actually I'll just install synaptic
[07:06] <bloatedbayesian> Or you could apt-get the old fashioned way.
[07:06] <bloatedbayesian> :P
[07:06] <ARM9> too lazy
[07:06] <bloatedbayesian> Too lazy to type?\
[07:06] <ARM9> all this typing when I can just drag a pointer across the screen and click shinies
[07:07] <bloatedbayesian> Haha. I'm too lazy to use GUIs.
[07:07] <Viking667> that's why I use synaptic.
[07:07] <lvleph> I can't be bothered to move my fingers from keyboard to mouse. Thus I use i3wm.
[07:07] <Viking667> lol. I'm not THAT hardcore.
[07:07] <bloatedbayesian> Too much hand-eye coordination involved.
[07:07] <lvleph> VIM and i3wm ftw
[07:08] <ARM9> looks dope
[07:08] <lvleph> pentadactyl plugin for firefox
[07:08] <lvleph> no mouse required
[07:08] <Viking667> I like Vim. I use it regularly. But a WM that requires a keyboard to do everything? hmmmm.
[07:08] <lvleph> Viking667, checkout pentadactyl for firefox
[07:08] <Viking667> I already have vimperator installed...
[07:09] <tay_> Hello, quick question - Are there any problems with me putting my root partition on a different disk than my home one?
[07:09] <Viking667> I've also got the equivalent installed in Chrome, which is the browser I use.
[07:09] <lvleph> I prefer pentadactyl, but I can't remember why
[07:09] <bloatedbayesian> No, tay_.
[07:09] <Viking667> tay_: As long as both disks appear, you should be fine.
[07:09] <lvleph> it doesn't work as well on chrome
[07:09] <tay_> Awesome, thanks a lot
[07:09] <cfhowlett> tay_ some people do that.  I don't see a huge benefit, but YMMV
[07:09] <Viking667> I've never tried pentadactyl.
[07:09] <bloatedbayesian> It might make encrypted backups easier.
[07:09] <Viking667> cfhowlett: I've found it's useful when I need to record video and audio to use separate disks.
[07:09] <bloatedbayesian> Just depends on what setup you're using.
[07:10] <Viking667> ...but that'sme.
[07:10] <tay_> I've got limited SSD space
[07:10] <Viking667> Ahhh. yes.
[07:10]  * Viking667 bangs his head against the table. Gnome-Shell is STILL stuffed up, even with a completely new-to-logging-in install.
[07:10] <cfhowlett> tay_ ???? a plain vanilla ubuntu runs less than 10 gigs?  put /home on a different partition for data and you should be good.
[07:11] <tay_> Yeah that's what I'm doing
[07:11] <Sonderblade> i've been starting to get this message after upgrading to 14.04 "Failed to spawn hybrid-gfx main process" what does it mean?
[07:11] <bloatedbayesian> I think maybe all computers should have a tiny SSD installed, and a bigger conventional drive.
[07:12] <bloatedbayesian> Put your OS and important software on the tiny one and all your static documents and slowy software on the big one.
[07:12] <bloatedbayesian> This should be standard.
[07:12] <bloatedbayesian> Also, everyone should use Linux and everyone should eat Soylent.
[07:13] <DARPA> I know this is not the channel I should be asking in but if anyone can assist me on installing openvpn [client only] on debian stable i'd greatly appreciate it
[07:13] <tay_> That's how I roll, even with my limited knowledge of multiple-disk systems lol
[07:13] <xangua> |!debian | DARPA
[07:13] <Ben64> DARPA: then ... if you know its not the right channel, why ask here? try #debian
[07:13] <bloatedbayesian> sudo apt-get install openvnc -y?
[07:13] <DARPA> I've never used more than 1 drive so I'm so ill on knowing how to run a RAID
[07:14] <cfhowlett> DARPA and we don't support #debian.  ask elsewhere.
[07:14] <DARPA> yo for real? that thing keeps on acting like a server on my system..
[07:14] <bloatedbayesian> Or do you want help with configuration too? :P
[07:14] <DARPA> I just import my ovpn files usually on Fedora, which works out the box
[07:14] <cfhowlett> !ot|DARPA
[07:14] <DARPA> done so with ubuntu also which is why im still like confused
[07:15] <DARPA> Ubuntu is debian based man, those guys arent helping in #debian lol
[07:15] <bloatedbayesian> Maybe you should have lied and said you used Ubuntu.
[07:15] <cfhowlett> hey uh DARPA : debian IS NOT SUPPORTED HERE.
[07:15] <bloatedbayesian> I doubt it would have made any practical difference besides people trying to solve your problem. :P
[07:16] <Ben64> bloatedbayesian: don't suggest that
[07:16] <bloatedbayesian> Ben64: :(
[07:16] <DARPA> hey, i apologize for the inconvenience and all but seriously, I am just asking for help. Thanks anyhow.
[07:17] <DARPA> Used to help people all day in here in 2008, thought it wouldn't be a bad choice considering the other room is not even typing.
[07:17] <bloatedbayesian> I'd help you if I could DARPA. But I don't know anything about configuring VPN.
[07:17] <tay_> Likewise :/
[07:17] <DARPA> Thank you, I greatly appreciate you wanting to.
[07:17] <DARPA> Thanks anyhow
[07:17] <Ben64> DARPA: its not to be mean or anything, the helpers here are ubuntu people, if they are debian people, they'd be in #debian as well.
[07:18] <xangua> DARPA: there is ##linux for general linux discussion and helping on a dedicated x distro channel doesn't mean you can get help about other linux distros
[07:18] <bloatedbayesian> Ben64: it just seems like an arbitrary constraint when we aren't doing anything else with chat time anyway, and Debian problems are usually pretty much the same as Ubuntu problems in my experience.
[07:19] <bloatedbayesian> I understand enforcing policies, but at a certain point policies become a little unnecessarily restricting.
[07:20] <Ben64> bloatedbayesian: its not arbitrary. there are important differences. thats why #debian and #ubuntu both exist. #debian wouldn't help with ubuntu stuff, we won't help with debian, mint users can't get help here, and ubuntu users or debian users can't get help in the mint channel.
[07:20] <uo> grub isnt loading at all on a dualboot windows 8 uefi, i tried to re-install but i get a failed to get canonical path of udev error. any help ?
[07:20] <bloatedbayesian> And that's all silly when there's a lot of overlap and channels aren't always active and responsive!
[07:21] <Ben64> bloatedbayesian: its not silly. its the reason we have separate channels. if someone knows multiple distros, and wants to help with them all, they are free to be in as many channels as they want
[07:22] <bloatedbayesian> I don't think that's how it works in practice.
[07:22] <Ben64> if you wish to discuss the channel rules, i'm sure they'd be happy to explain it to you in #ubuntu-ops
[07:22] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[07:23] <bloatedbayesian> I'm not asking for an explanation, I think I understand the rules if not the motivations. I'm just not convinced that it's an ideal policy.
[07:23] <Ben64> then take it to #ubuntu-ops
[07:24] <uo> doesn't anybody know why grub cant load
[07:24] <bloatedbayesian> No we're too busy arguing about channel policy. :P
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !uefi|uo
[07:25] <uo> failed to get canonical path of udev
[07:25] <corp> How do I turn on the fan? My k10temp temperature is over 70C and the fan isn't turning on. I have fancontrol but it says "Can't load configuration file" and sensors-detect cant find any modules to load. Please help me, how can I turn on the fan? My system is extremely overheating.
[07:25] <uo> cfhowlett, i've read it already, i tried boot-repair on the same machine last week, different install, but it didnt work either
[07:25] <Ben64> corp: k10temp is completely unreliable, don't believe it
[07:26] <DARPA> Ben64, very lame how those internet fist fights are occurring but I understand the gravity of the situation being different operating systems; wish people were more Open like our OS Sources. Lol.
[07:26] <uo> i also tried to edit the bcd in windows to replace the bootmgr with grub's grubx64.efi it didnt work either
[07:26] <bloatedbayesian> Be careful. I'm pretty sure you can get permanent hardware damage if you let the temp go way beyond rating.
[07:26] <corp> Ben64: please, how can I turn the fan on
[07:26] <corp> fancontrol isn't working
[07:26] <corp> my laptop is hot as hell
[07:27] <Ben64> DARPA: its not lame. this is an ubuntu channel. don't be surprised when debian is offtopic in #ubuntu.
[07:27] <corp> its overheating extremely
[07:27] <cfhowlett> !patience|corp
[07:27] <Ben64> corp: again, k10temp is completely unreliable. do not believe it.
[07:27] <uo> corp i use psensor for temp
[07:27] <DARPA> corp you have to be very careful with those fan settings on fancontrol, I've looked into it for my Nvidia card and am not attempting to play with such configurations yet.
[07:28] <corp> lm-sensors is not starting up too
[07:28] <b7> Hello all. Could anyone say where enironment variables GNOME_KEYRING_PID and GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL is set, please? They are not set while in shell, but are set in xterminal. I can't find the place where they are set. I'm using XFCE.
[07:28] <corp> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[07:28] <DARPA> Did you try to find out if it's compatible with your gear?
[07:28] <DARPA> There are a bit of compatibility issues with fancontrol I've read.
[07:29] <corp> Isn't there any other way to turn on the fan?
[07:29] <DARPA> Which fan are you referring to?
[07:29] <DARPA> CPU?
[07:29] <Ben64> corp: are you sure it isn't on? it might only turn on when the temperature actually rises
[07:29] <DARPA> ^thats very true, depending on settings
[07:29] <corp> The temperature is super high.
[07:30] <corp> My laptop is extremely hot.
[07:30] <corp> and the keyboard part of the laptop is hot too.
[07:30] <bloatedbayesian> Try putting it in the microwave and seeing if the fan turns on then.
[07:30] <DARPA> Yikes, I wouldnt even keep running it, you should try reading up on the manual more to make sure you got precise measurements in calculations on numbers places [options]
[07:30] <bloatedbayesian> Pff, but seriously yeah you can damage it that way.
[07:30] <Ben64> bloatedbayesian: don't
[07:31] <uo> maybe something is using up the cpu ?
[07:31] <bloatedbayesian> Don't put it in the microwave? Sound technical advice, Ben64.
[07:31] <DARPA> <recommends a physical fan controller.
[07:31] <Ben64> bloatedbayesian: don't say stuff like that in this channel
[07:31] <DARPA> I got mine for just $25
[07:32] <bloatedbayesian> Right, serious channel for serious people. Light-heartedness is too frivolous.
[07:32] <DARPA> I dont think it's an operation running on his system causing these atrocious temps...
[07:32] <Ben64> bloatedbayesian: maybe you should read the channel rules and guidelines
[07:32] <DARPA> Might just have improper settings on fancontrol, my conclusion.
[07:32] <bloatedbayesian> Okay I will.
[07:33] <DARPA> I messed up a bit learning how to use FanSpeed, had a few break downs on Windows; it's experimental to use such utilities so heads up to that
[07:33] <Ben64> DARPA, corp: or could be bad settings in the bios
[07:33] <corp> I have a Compaq 435.
[07:33] <DARPA> Are you running the default settings on BIOS?
[07:33] <corp> Yes.
[07:34] <tehpwnz> i just installed 14.04 and i have no sound when i use headphones. ive RTFM and read wikis, removed alsa and pulse audio, reinstalled, rebooted but no joy. How can i fix this?
[07:34] <corp> lemme try it from the BIOS
[07:34] <bloatedbayesian> Skimmed it, Ben64. There is no overwhelmingly obvious way in which I am in violation.
[07:34] <DARPA> You did look to see if the component is "ON" instead of "OFF" on the GUI right?
[07:35] <bazhang> !behelpful | bloatedbayesian
[07:35] <nel> hey guys how to change my resolution to 1280x800 from 640x480
[07:35] <nel> ?
[07:35] <bloatedbayesian> I didn't say"just google it".
[07:35] <DARPA> I think the lowest normal resolution is 800x600, but I'm sure there's a way to configure it using Xorg.
[07:35] <uo> nel, settings > display settings
[07:36] <uo> nel if you want to make custom resolutions you can, btw.
[07:36] <cfhowlett> bloatedbayesian "put it in the microwave ..." is not a helpful suggestion
 nel, settings > display settings
[07:36] <bazhang> bloatedbayesian, please see your PM
[07:36] <bloatedbayesian> It was a joke.
[07:36] <DARPA> he left the room i think
[07:36] <nel> no other options, just 640x480
[07:36] <DARPA> You'd have to configure Xorg
[07:36] <nel> by the way my laptop is so old haha
[07:36] <DARPA> to apply such resolution
[07:36] <cfhowlett> bloatedbayesian strangely enough, neither funny nor helpful
[07:36] <uo> are you running two screens or just the laptop display ?
[07:36] <DARPA> Sounds old, but keep it.
[07:37] <bloatedbayesian> Slightly helpful and very unhelpful.
[07:37] <nel> just the laptop
[07:37] <bloatedbayesian> *slightly funny
[07:37] <DARPA> Better than running a supposed Intel i-series proc which supposedly is determined to have NSA backdoors attached.
[07:37] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please DARPA
[07:37] <DARPA> Just a statement
[07:37] <uo> nel type: gtf 640 480 60
[07:37] <DARPA> but yes, back to the Xconfiguratoin
[07:38] <nel> SISVGA graphics is awful in ubuntu
[07:38] <ARM9> crud, any ideas how to find out what audio drivers I'm running on xubuntu 14.04?
[07:38] <nel> but its nice on windows 8.1
[07:38] <ARM9> no clue what's in this lappy
[07:39] <tehpwnz> my install only has 5 entries in the settings. this isnt normal is it? do i need to do a reinstall?
[07:39] <nel> how to edit xorg?
[07:39] <ARM9> getting a subtle crackling through cans, this doesn't happen on windows
[07:39] <DARPA> Consider using Xvidtune to configure your Xorg configuration
[07:39] <nel> ahh xvidtune
[07:40] <DARPA> Yes, I just googled that from a forum page stating the same issue, but he's using a native monitor to my resolution [I believe.]
[07:40] <DARPA> Xvidtune should do it naturally with proper settings attached, most definitely I believe considering I've looked into using it during Nvidia driver installations
[07:40] <DARPA> but as always be careful
[07:40] <DARPA> to the extent needed ;)
[07:40] <nel> video playback is also poor
[07:41] <nel> thanks btw
[07:42] <nel> ill searcg for it
[07:42] <nel> search
[07:42] <Gaba1> can someone help me with installation problems with ubuntu server?
[07:42] <bazhang> x11-xserver-utils <-- try this ne1
[07:42] <cfhowlett> Gaba1 ask here or in #ubuntu-server
[07:42] <Gaba1> ty
[07:43] <nel> what shall I do with that?
[07:43] <bazhang> ne1 for xvidtune
[07:43] <nel> can you give the link for xvidtune?
[07:44] <nel> pls
[07:44] <DARPA> yeah, bazhang has another good suggestion
[07:44] <bazhang> I just did
[07:44] <DARPA> apt-get install xvidtune
[07:44] <bazhang> xvidtune is part of what I just said
[07:44] <DARPA> or apt-get install x11-xserver-utils
[07:44] <DARPA> Believe you'd want the full package for better results. thank you bazhang
[07:45] <bazhang> !info xvidtune
[07:45] <bazhang> it's part of the larger utils package
[07:45] <nel> sudo?
[07:45] <uo> yes nel
[07:47] <DARPA> sorry for that answer nel, it is part of the x11-xserver-utils package
[07:47] <nel> it says x11 is already the newest version
[07:47] <DARPA> this is a configuration package with a few utilities to help you configure the Xorg configuration
[07:47] <DARPA> I'd gamble and tell you to just 'Xorg --configure' but that might do something nasty...
[07:47] <uo> i already have it,
[07:48] <nel> x11-xserver-utils is already the newest version.
[07:48] <nel> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 132 not upgrad
[07:48] <uo> type xvidtune in the terminal
[07:48] <DARPA> as sudo, for better results maybe
[07:48] <uo> but it gave a huge warning.. can do damage to video card or monitor etc etc
[07:48] <DARPA> something things dont work without root
[07:48] <DARPA> sometimes*
[07:48] <nel> Video modes are not settable on this chip
[07:48] <DARPA> You are using Gnome correct?
[07:49] <nel> I'm using Xubuntu
[07:49] <DARPA> oh you're using Xfce
[07:49] <nel> What's Gnome?
[07:49] <DARPA> okay yeah another GUI wouldnt help.
[07:49] <nel> sorry Im new to ubuntu
[07:50] <DARPA> No problemo, Gnome is the official GUI [graphical user interface], what does not come up with a CLI/Terminal prompt, your GUI; where the mouse moves
[07:50] <nel> ok
[07:50] <uo> nel, open a terminal, type gtf 640 480 60, copy the resulting numbers following 60.00", type xrandr --newmode 640x480 <the numbers you copied>
[07:51] <DARPA> You're using Xfce4, which could be what's causing the malfunctioning issue with your graphics card, you might need to install KDE or Gnome for better results, but again, this suggestion may only be a a gamble.
[07:51] <DARPA> or try that
[07:51] <cfhowlett> nel sudo apt-get install lxde              logout/choose lxde session/login       and test
[07:51] <nel> i see
[07:51] <DARPA> Yeah, I am using LXDE myself.
[07:51] <DARPA> Very lightweight ;)
[07:52] <nel> where can I get that?
[07:52] <DARPA> nel, try using uo's suggestion
[07:52] <uo> then type: xrandr --addmode default 640x480, then type: xrandr --output default --mode 640x480
[07:52] <DARPA> that is a direct command to attempt running in that resolution size
[07:53] <nel> Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[07:54] <uo> after whcih command ?
[07:54] <uo> gtf ?
[07:54] <nel> after -newmode
[07:54] <uo> did you copy the whole line like 23.86 ..etc etc +Vsync ?
[07:55] <nel> yes
[07:55] <nel> X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[07:57] <uo> same here
[07:57] <nel> xrandr --newmode 640x480 23.86  640 656 720 800  480 481 484 497  -HSync +Vsync
[07:57] <uo> its not working on this laptop either
[07:57] <uo> i tried a different resolution and its working though
[07:58] <DARPA> I personally [think, solely; possibly wrong] that it will not work, just due to the age of the use of that resolution... Disappointed however.
[07:58] <DARPA> A larger scaled one?
[07:58] <uo> with 1280 770 60 it works
[07:58] <DARPA> genius man, congrats.
[07:58] <DARPA> you got an even better resolution XD
[07:58] <uo> i use it for a plasma screen
[07:59] <uo> though
[07:59] <DARPA> you might want to add a few higher resolutions then
[08:00] <nel> i want higher res
[08:00] <DARPA> read the manual on your plasma if need be to find the resolution(s) chart and add mode those
[08:00] <DARPA> nel, you're running it right at the moment off your laptop screen or a seperate monitor?
[08:01] <nel> on my laptop screen
[08:01] <uo> try 1360 768
[08:01] <uo> 800x600 didnt work here
[08:01] <DARPA> It might just work naturally and switch resolutions when attached to the plasma, if not you will need to employ different resolutions as before.
[08:01] <DARPA> Different GFXcard port so it could possibly run better and function accordingly
[08:01] <nel> my graphics card supports 1280x800
[08:02] <DARPA> Use that
[08:02] <uo> yeah.
[08:02] <DARPA> is it an intel graphics card?
[08:02] <nel> i have that resolution on windows 8.1
[08:02] <nel> SisVgA
[08:02] <nel> old vga graphics card
[08:02] <DARPA> sometimes those go higher than whats shown on your monitor if a different device is plugged in via VGA/HDMI/DVI
[08:02] <larrypg> nel, you might want to read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215422&highlight=sis+card+working+ubuntu
[08:03] <DARPA> I know certain gfx-cards will boost your resolutions tremendously right when the device is attached via VGA etc..
[08:03] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[08:04] <nel> ok
[08:04] <nel> gtg guys
[08:04] <uo> nel if you use xrandr, after the resolution changes go to settings > display settings, itll appear there too, set it there so that it persists when you reboot
[08:04] <nel> thanks for your time
[08:05] <uo> if it doesnt persist add those lines to the .profile in your home directory
[08:05] <totesmuhgoats> so i have a xubuntu 12.04 LTS system that i plan to upgrade to 14.04. my install is very "lived in", have a RAID5, have an init script i wrote myself, some users i've created for daemonizing certain things. i am just wondering how i should expect the in place upgrade to affect all these things
[08:06] <totesmuhgoats> i am doing a system image just in case, but can i expect all these things to be preserved, or will the upgrade overwrite the configuration for a lot of things and dramatically alter the startup process?
[08:07] <Gallomimia> totesmuhgoats: trying to write an init script myself for a raid5. it's not working...
[08:08] <totesmuhgoats> Gallomimia, my script isn't for RAID5, ubuntu took care of that out of the box, i imported a RAID i built on archlinux and the installer set everything up itself
[08:08] <vlad__> hi
[08:09] <totesmuhgoats> hey vlad__
[08:11] <samu> Hi.
[08:11] <samu> I've been given a weird task on an ubuntu server machine. After updating, for some reason, after a while (or almost immediatelly during the boot) the md1 raid (root partition) gets remounted in read-only, like when an error occurs
[08:12] <samu> except that I don't see in any logs any info about a failing disk (only information that md1 has been remounted).
[08:12] <samu> I scanned both disks with smart, and they seem fine. mdstat also doesn't report any errors.
[08:13] <samu> Now because I can't see anything useful from the OS perspective, can this be a screwed up controller? Or does anybody have any idea what other tests could I make to be sure?
[08:13] <shunya_chakra> hi is there sdl available in apt-get install?
[08:13] <ARM9> yes
[08:14] <ARM9> some of it was rather dated last time I checked, might want to build from source
[08:14] <Neringan> samu : does your fstbab looks fine ?
[08:14] <Neringan> fstab*
[08:14] <uo> can anyone help me with dualbooting windows 8?
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> uo, THis a OEM W8?
[08:15] <uo> yes
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | uo
[08:15] <uo> thanks ive read it already..no dice.
[08:16] <shunya_chakra> ARM9, ok can u please suggest me good link of tutorial installation I tried but I failed.
[08:16] <mdunc_> samu:  check output of dmesg too.  anything useful in there?
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> uo, Than your doing something wrong, at the least here you have to give details of what has happened. UEFI stuff is not real well known here is all.
[08:17] <uo> well i tried boot-repair and it didnt work
[08:17] <uo> so i tried to reinstall grub, but i get a can not find canonical path of udev error.
[08:18] <mdunc_> uo: what happened when you tried to install ubuntu?  it didn’t detect your windows 8 install?
[08:18] <uo> no it didnt detect it
[08:18] <mdunc_> uo: so what install option did you choose?
[08:19] <uo> something else, made a swap and a /
[08:19] <uo> read that it will use the efi partition at the beginning of the drive
[08:19] <uo> but it only contains an empty grub folder
[08:20] <uo> ah wait, theres EFI/ubuntu/ which has the .efi files
[08:20] <mdunc_> uo: when you booted the ubuntu image, you booted in EFI mode correct?
[08:20] <uo> yes
[08:21] <Gallomimia> grub grub grub, which are good, which are bad...
[08:21] <Neringan> samu : from what you said your raid seems ok. Maybe you should take a look at the filesystems with fsck
[08:21] <mdunc_> uo: after ubuntu finished installing and your system rebooted, did you get to the grub menu?
[08:21] <Gallomimia> i need to configure grub. but i need to make my own initrd apparently. it's complicated, and i are confuzed
[08:21] <Gallomimia> ]
[08:21] <uo> no it loads windows directly
[08:22] <mdunc_> uo: you have just one hard drive?
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, Why would you have to make anything?
[08:22] <uo> yes
[08:22] <Gallomimia> i have lvm and crypt installed, and its on a raid. have to start all that before the boot can proceed
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> ah past my pay rate, good luck.
[08:23] <mdunc_> uo: does your system have SecureBoot?
[08:23] <uo> yes, ive turned it off.
[08:24] <Gallomimia> mine too wilee-nilee i had no idea how complicated it was going to be on the way here :) might as well finish. its pretty fun trouble so far!
[08:24] <mdunc_> uo: you turned it off before or after installing ubuntu?
[08:24] <Gallomimia> RGH. i can't get the keyboard to keep working after grub loads the install disk anymore ><
[08:24] <uo> after installing ubuntu, but i think its unrelated since i had ubuntu running alone, and the same issue as now happened after i installed windows alongside it.
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, Heh, as long as you're having fun go for it. ;)
[08:24] <Gallomimia> plus it continues to say my bios is corrupted
[08:25] <samu> Neringan: fsck also reports everything is ok, however it takes a suspiciously short time
[08:25] <Gallomimia> wilee-nilee: not as much fun as the games it should be playing right now, but it is pretty fun
[08:25] <samu> Neringan: fstab looks fine
[08:25] <samu> Neringan: basically it mounts in rw, it just remounts after a while
[08:25] <mdunc_> uo: wait, you installed windows after installing ubuntu?
[08:25] <Gallomimia> here i go... encryption raiding logical volumes! oh. the keyboard won't work in the installer.... hallllp?
[08:25] <samu> mdunc_: yup, checked dmesg, nothing really useful there, besides info that md1 has been remounted.
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, Fun for me is a cloned os, and or a couple of commands and calling it a day. ;)
[08:26] <Gallomimia> yeah. i want to ditch macos from my life
[08:26] <Gallomimia> that means getting lots of ubuntu set up and running
[08:27] <samu> I'll try a full fsck though
[08:27] <uo> i installed windows after it a couple days ago, ubuntu wouldnt load so then i wiped everything, installed windows 8 and ubuntu after it.
[08:28] <DARPA> SecureBoot took a day away from my life.
[08:28] <DARPA> Lol.
[08:28] <DARPA> Sorry to sound so dumb but seriously, it wasn't easy getting my laptop to install Windows 7 natively on legacy mode.
[08:28] <Gallomimia> every time. keyboard quits working soon as i get to select language in rescue mode. something's wrong with a bios setting anyone know it/
[08:28] <uo> i had to reinstall windows anyways
[08:29] <DARPA> Found something about OpRom Legacy and went for it, after skimming through the manual so much
[08:29] <DARPA> googled OpRom Legacy and presto
[08:29] <dohzer> What are the best serial port/UART apps for Ubuntu? I just want to send and receive basic text data.
[08:29] <mdunc_> uo: ok, so you wiped and reloaded with just windows.  windows booted correctly.  then you installed ubuntu, but it just boots straight to windows.  is this correct?
[08:29] <DARPA> I presumed it was part of the PXE Boot options.
[08:29] <mdunc_> samu:  what do you have in /dev/md* or /dev/md/*
[08:30] <uo> yes
[08:30] <DARPA> Did you allow grub to manage the master boot sector?
[08:30] <uo> how do i allow it ?
[08:30] <DARPA> That should handle it fine, and also still have Grub notice Windows *
[08:31] <DARPA> Here's the question I have for you, did you install windows as UEFI/GPT or Legacy/MBR?
[08:31] <DARPA> then Ubuntu as the opposite?
[08:31] <DARPA> Because it would totally do that
[08:31] <uo> i didnt touch the bios
[08:31] <uo> its uefi/gpt
[08:32] <DARPA> you might want to acutally boot up not from the "Windows" or "Ubuntu" option but see if Grub is actually working
[08:32] <DARPA> by deploying your HDD first
[08:32] <DARPA> forget going into windows or ubuntu
[08:32] <DARPA> you might have done it correct
[08:32] <DARPA> just need to boot the actual HDD
[08:32] <mdunc_> samu: what’s the contents of your  /etc/mkinitcpio.conf?
[08:32] <DARPA> happens on my Asus from time to time.
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> uo, I gave you the best support link on this, people here will try, but it's out of wanting to help but not really having a clue.
[08:33] <uo> wilee-nilee im rereading it right now.
[08:33] <samu> mdunc_: I don't have such file.
[08:33] <DARPA> Gallomimia, you have a Mac computer?
[08:33] <ciurkut> hiho... i have weird problem... i tweak wallpaper settings in gnome-tweak-tool... after i reboot settings reset to some weird conf... wallpaper on desktop is different than in shell... and lockscreen theme is not there (white) any ideas?
[08:33] <mdunc_> samu: i might have been thinking of arch.  sorry :P
[08:33] <samu> yeah ;)_
[08:33] <ciurkut> if i change wallpaper through normal settings same thing happens
[08:33] <samu> Currently I have it booted from pxe, in memory, so I can safely play with the raid and check
[08:34] <DARPA> try resetting the entire options on the tweak tool
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> uo, Have an accurate bootinfo summary from the bootrepair app and post it here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[08:34] <ciurkut> DARPA where is that option? under which tab?
[08:34] <io__> anyonewiht irfanview experience ?
[08:35] <DARPA> well my personal way of doing it is reinstalling the program but i believe i might have that tool available, give me 1 second please
[08:35] <samu> I'm running short of ideas ;P
[08:35] <mdunc_> samu: any /dev/md* files?  try mdstat —detail /dev/md[whatever you have]
[08:35] <tay_> Howdy, quick question again, should I be using grub (legacy) or grub 2 from easybcd?
[08:35] <DARPA> switching back and forth an option to default settings then applying the change
[08:36] <mdunc_> samu: see if it says the raid raid is clean
[08:36] <samu> wait, I don't have mdstat there
[08:36] <DARPA> tay_, are you using Legacy, and did you install EasyBCD after or before [not that it matters much but it does in some cases]
[08:36] <Gallomimia> DARPA: i have a mac laptop
[08:36] <mdunc_> samu: what about mdadm?
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> tay_, Grub legacy is not in installs
[08:36] <DARPA> Ah I see, you're not enjoying the experience I'm presuming.
[08:36] <samu> mdunc_: no, wait, I just have to install it.
[08:36] <tay_> I'm not using Legacy BIOS, as far as I'm aware
[08:36] <samu> mdunc_: I'm in a livecd, remember ;P
[08:36] <tay_> On my install I set up UEFI
[08:36] <mdunc_> samu: ah, gotcha
[08:37] <DARPA> I like Mac OS X for productive reasons but as a personal OS I can see your choice in a Linux distro
[08:37] <DARPA> You didnt want to BootCamp/dualboot?
[08:37] <tay_> It's just that when I select my linux option from the grub menu, it gives me a windows startup error
[08:37] <DARPA> I would only trust Mac OS X disconnected from the internet, personally... No offense.
[08:37] <tay_> "Windows failed to start... File: \NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr"
[08:38] <DARPA> Yeah, you might definitely want to not use EasyBCD
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> tay_, From whay I have seen here there is a windows boot menu outside the grub menu you would use.
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> for windows
[08:38] <DARPA> and NST/AutoneoGrub, could be set up for a Legacy bootloader
[08:38] <tay_> ? Could you elaborate more, please?
[08:38] <tay_> @wilee-nilee
[08:38] <DARPA> Did you try seeing if the Native grub bootloader runs initially once choosing to boot up the HDD
[08:38] <DARPA> and not a specific OS
[08:38] <Gallomimia> DARPA: i don't think i'd trust it then
[08:39] <DARPA> No, there are UUID hacks on Mac OS X and in every hacker convention they annihilate Mac OS X on javascripts on Safari
[08:39] <Kartagis> how to convert a vbox image to kvm format with something other than VBoxManage? VBoxManage throws errors with --format raw
[08:39] <DARPA> even if its not going to a site sometimes
[08:39] <samu> mdunc_: state : clean, it seems ok
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> tay_, I wish I could, hardly anyone here really knows uefi, there are better places for support. There are a few helpers here who know this stuff but I see none now.
[08:39] <DARPA> just the fact that its connected to the internet
[08:39] <tay_> After I ran my install, it only auto boots Windows. I had not installed grub yet. No other boot options
[08:40] <DARPA> Steve Jobs did  have backdoors installed on older Mac OS X and given notice to NSA in the past.
[08:40] <llutz> !ot | DARPA
[08:40] <DARPA> Same way Bill Gates made NetBIOS a free-for-all
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> tay_> It's just that when I select my linux option from the grub menu, it gives me a windows startup error. THan what does this mean?
[08:40] <DARPA> Sorry, will stay on topic, good choice going with Ubuntu its a very hassle free system. :)
[08:40] <tay_> Well, I tried using EasyBCD to set the boot option for a Linux OS given the root partition
[08:41] <tay_> And then when I selected that from the grub menu, it gave the error that I quoted
[08:41] <DARPA> See now here's another aspect I just thought of, maybe EasyBCD deleted your initial gub installation from Linux
[08:41] <DARPA> like overwrote it
[08:41] <mdunc_> samu: ok, try this, mdadm --assemble --scan
[08:41] <tay_> There wasn't one to begin with
[08:41] <tay_> I didn't try EasyBCD until after
[08:41] <mdunc_> samu: then see if you have read/write access to your raid
[08:41] <DARPA> Did you boot up directly from the HDD though, not just let the PC run itself first?
[08:42] <tay_> Erm.
[08:42] <DARPA> In certain situations I've experienced I've needed to actually make the HDD load, just start from the HDD level, not the prewritten OS commands.
[08:42] <DARPA> to make Grub actually work
[08:43] <DARPA> just speaking from experience, it can be a PITA sometimes.
[08:43] <tay_> I mean, I went through the BIOS and nothing really changed in terms of available boot options...
[08:43] <tay_> Not sure if that's what you're referring to.
[08:43] <DARPA> Okay you're using UEFI correct?
[08:43] <DARPA> and a GPT partition scheme
[08:44] <DARPA> Grub sometimes doesnt play friend with GPT, and you'd need to load from the actual HDD, not the automatically "Windows" "Ubuntu" buttons
[08:44] <tay_> I believe so.
[08:44] <samu> mdunc_: it complains that md1 is not in a config file ;<
[08:44] <DARPA> Just straight load the HDD
[08:44] <samu> I've ran into that problem yesterday, but I don't remember how i fixed it
[08:44] <DARPA> you mentioned EasyBCD also, that could just ruin everything
[08:44] <mdunc_> samu: can you mount /dev/md1?
[08:45] <samu> yeah
[08:45] <samu> # mount |grep md1
[08:45] <samu> /dev/md1 on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> tay_, There is an app you can run that produces a diagnostic script and a thread to post in with people focused on this. AS of now just posting bits of info here is just spam.
[08:45] <tay_> Gotcha.
[08:45] <io__> anyone has experience with photo editing softwares?
[08:46] <bazhang> try shotwell io__
[08:47] <mdunc_> samu: that looks good. hmm…
[08:47] <Kartagis> anyone has experience converting a VirtualBox image file to KVM format?
[08:47] <samu> mdunc_: just to make it clear, this is what I see in /mnt/var/log right now
[08:47] <samu> syslog:May 27 19:13:50 ks206332 kernel: EXT4-fs (md1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[08:47] <samu> and this is from yesterdays tests.
[08:47] <samu> when I tried to boot from the md1 raid.
[08:47] <Hyperiant> how can I get Ubuntu to recognize my NIC from the live CD if it isn't already?
[08:48] <samu> and here's the fstab: http://wklej.org/hash/88a1abd343e/
[08:48] <mdunc_> samu: what does your /mnt/etc/fstab line for your raid look like?
[08:48] <samu> mdunc_: heh, just thought of posting it above ;)
[08:49] <Hyperiant> all I want to do is diagnose my boot problems
[08:49] <Ben64> Hyperiant: pastebin "lspci" , or pastebin "lsusb" if its a usb nic
[08:49] <mdunc_> samu:  haha, i see it now :)
[08:49] <Hyperiant> what if the live CD isn't recognizing my keyboard?
[08:50] <Hyperiant> Ben64: How can I pastebin it if I have no network connection?
[08:50] <Ben64> Hyperiant: then look through it to find a network card
[08:50] <mdunc_> samu: try removing the errors=remount-ro
[08:50] <samu> mdunc_: yeah, but will this solve my problem?
[08:50] <samu> I mean, yeah, it won't remount it again...
[08:50] <samu> but it did for some reason.
[08:51] <samu> and that's what I'm worried about, what caused it to detect an error and remount in the first place.
[08:51] <Hyperiant> Ben64: Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)
[08:53] <Ben64> Hyperiant: does ifconfig show the adapter? does lsmod show "forcedeth" as loaded?
[08:54] <mdunc_> samu: then give this a try, add commit=5 to the fstab line
[08:55] <mdunc_> errors=remount-ro,relatime,commit=5
[08:55] <Hyperiant> Ben64: I don't know how to interpret all of this, but ifconfig shows an entry for eth0 and lsmod shows "forcedeth" with a 0 next to it
[08:55] <Ben64> Hyperiant: if eth0 is showing up, then it appears your card is indeed recognized
[08:56] <samu> mdunc_: how will that help?
[08:56] <samu> I will, but I'm just curious
 I'm currently planning to deploy Lubuntu onto the following setup: 2 USB drives, 8GB each, and 2 WD Green Drives, 2 TB each
 I intend to install Lubuntu's base OS onto the USB drives, then have the two 2TB drives as storage for my VMs (KVM virtualized)
 My question is would it be possible to set it up so that the 2 2TB drives are set up as mirrors of each other under software RAID except for a 8GB partition on each drive, both acting as swap space (essentially striped swap on each drive)?
[08:56] <mdunc_> samu: that has to do with how your filesystem syncs it’s data
 Or once I set software RAID on the two drives it consumes the entire drive?
[08:56] <Sachiru> Ah crud, wrong copy paste
[08:56] <Hyperiant> Ben64: that's weird...it isn't connecting to my network
[08:56] <Sachiru> But essentially yes, that's my question
[08:56] <Ben64> Hyperiant: maybe set a static ip or something
[08:57] <samu> mdunc_: ok, I'll try that ;)
[08:57] <mdunc_> samu: are you on a laptop?
[08:58] <adriandroid> anyone know how to build ios-debug-proxy on 14.04 , it was working it previous version but not now, is there a workaround?
[08:58] <samu> mdunc_: Me - yes, but I'm doing this on a remote server.
[08:58] <mdunc_> samu: ah, ok
[08:58] <samu> and, unfortunatelly, I don't have anything like ipmi/kvm
[08:58] <samu> so I did a bit of magic to see the virtual tty
[08:58] <darkreaper> hello please tell me how python scripting can be twisted and molded and be used as a network security agent
[08:58] <samu> ;-D
[08:58] <aeon-ltd> darkreaper: ##python
[08:59] <mdunc_> samu: i’m interested to see what the output of your mount command is after your system is booted from the hard drive
[08:59] <samu> sure, I'll check this in a minute, I have to do something else now
[08:59] <samu> I'll text you when I try this
[09:00] <mdunc_> samu: cool.  i’ll be around for a little bit.
[09:00] <darkreaper> python please
[09:01] <mdunc_> darkreaper: sounds like a homework question ;)  try #python
[09:02] <darkreaper> oh no its not
[09:02] <Hyperiant> Ben64: I just set a static IP and it still doesn't connect :/
[09:03] <Hyperiant> Ben64: rather, it's saying "connection established" but I can't access any web pages
[09:03] <Ben64> Hyperiant: try going to http://74.125.239.130
[09:03] <Hyperiant> Ben64: cannot establish a connection to the server
[09:04] <Ben64> then you either didn't set up the network properly, or some other problem is happening
[09:04] <Hyperiant> the router and the cable to the computer are all fine; they were working earlier today on my windows install
[09:05] <Ben64> i mean set up on the computer, need ip address to be in the right network, and probably need gateway too
[09:07] <Hyperiant> Ben64: the IP address is a valid, unused address, and both the netmask and gateway are correct as confirmed by the settings on my other machine
[09:07] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: can you post the output of ‘ip addr show’?
[09:08] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
[09:08] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: what about the lines following that?
[09:09] <Sachiru> Anyone?
[09:09] <Hyperiant> mdunc_: link/ether bc:5f:f2:71:01:1d brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff / inet 10.0.0.99/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global eth0 / inet6 fe80::be5f:f4ff:fe71:11d/64 scope link / valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[09:09] <Sachiru> Is it possible to set RAID 0 and RAID 1 software raid for two partitions on two disks (data and OS as Linux RAID1, SWAP as linux RAID0)?
[09:10] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: and how about the output of ‘route’?
[09:11] <Hyperiant> mdunc_: default 10.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 / 10.0.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 / link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0
[09:12] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: can you ‘ping 10.0.0.1’?
[09:12] <corp> How can I download all songs of a Soundcloud profile? I know its possible in Linux, is there any command or script for this? There must be!
[09:13] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ destination host unreachable
[09:13] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: are you sure your router’s ip is 10.0.0.1?
[09:13] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ http://puu.sh/94zl2/838c63ee3b.png pretty sure
[09:14] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: that screenshot is from a working windows install?
[09:14] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ yeah, it's what I'm connecting to IRC from
[09:14] <llutz> Hyperiant: "ethtool eth0|grep Link"
[09:15] <Hyperiant> llutz: program is currently not installed
[09:15] <llutz> Hyperiant: argh, my bad, *buntu comes without it
[09:16] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: try changing your subnet mask to 255.0.0.0.  Maybe Windows is fixing this for you automatically.
[09:16] <arcsky> anyone here work with PCI-DSS? do you really need anti-virus program on your linux server which runs one network service only?
[09:17] <Hyperiant> mdunc_: replaced, it still says the host is unreachable :<
[09:18] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: out of curiosity, can you ping yourself (10.0.0.99)
[09:18] <mdunc_> ?
[09:18] <Hyperiant> mdunc_: yeah, I get the packets
[09:19] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: is there anything between you and your router?
[09:20] <Hyperiant> It's a direct LAN connection from the PC to the router port
[09:20] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: what model router?
[09:21] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ netgear wgr614v9
[09:22] <shunya_chakra> getting erro ffmpeg not installed
[09:22] <shunya_chakra> is it available in apt-get?
[09:23] <llutz> !info ffmpeg| shunya_chakra
[09:23] <llutz> !info ffmpeg  | shunya_chakra
[09:23] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: can your windows machine ping your router?
[09:23] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ yeah, it receives
[09:23] <llutz> shunya_chakra: try using avconv from libav-tools package
[09:24] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: ok, thanks.  that means your router isn’t blocking ping requests.
[09:24] <Hyperiant> mdunc_: I have the strangest proficiency for getting the weird problems.  this all started because I wanted to repair my windows mbr
[09:24] <shunya_chakra> llutz, is avconv will going to work... because it asking for ffmpeg
[09:26] <llutz> shunya_chakra: how would i know, without knowing what "it" is?
[09:27] <shunya_chakra> llutz, i'm installing pygame.. and it's showing ffmpeg is not installed
[09:28] <llutz> shunya_chakra: then i'd guess you need to find a ppa providing ffmpeg or a pygame version supporting libav
[09:29] <llutz> (sorry, i don't know what pygame is/does)
[09:30] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: sorry, i had to step away for a minute (I’m at work lol).
[09:30] <Hyperiant> oh, that's okay
[09:30] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: are there any other devices on your network?
[09:31] <Hyperiant> mdunc_: I have a multitude of printers and mobile phones also connected to the network
[09:31] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: can your windows machine ping 10.0.0.99?
[09:31] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ it says destination unreachable from there too
[09:32] <motz> hi, is there no way to see silverlight-videos on ubuntu?
[09:32] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: in your router’s ip configuration, try changing it’s subnet to 255.0.0.0  (this really should be the correct subnet value for your network)
[09:33] <Hyperiant> won't that cause every device from the network to get kicked off?
[09:33] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: i don’t think so.  we can try other stuff first though.
[09:34] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: take a look at your network card.  the lights are on, right?
[09:34] <Hyperiant>  mdunc_: yeah, I can see the LED flashing out the back of the case
[09:35] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: most nics have two lights.  is this the case?
[09:35] <motz> hi, is there no way to see silverlight-videos on ubuntu?
[09:35] <_2_Alexis1423> :)
[09:35] <robin2> Hello motz, you can try installing mono, but i don't have much luck with it.
[09:36] <llutz> mdunc_: there is nothing wrong with using 10.0.0.0/24
[09:36] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ it's just one light that I see flashing, and it's red (turned green when I tried unplugging and reinserting the cable)
[09:36] <robin2> Moste sites use Silverlight DRM (Digital Rights Management), an mono does not support that well.
[09:36] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: red is bad ;)
[09:37] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: try replacing the cable with a known good one
[09:37] <motz> robin2, what about pipelight?
[09:37] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ the router is 50 feet away; this is the only cable I have that'll reach, and it worked earlier today...
[09:37] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ heck, I can test the cable using my laptop's ethernet port
[09:38] <mdunc_> llutz: yeah, it should be fine, it’s just a class A network and those typically use 255.0.0.0.
[09:38] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ classful networking has kind of fallen out of use lately
[09:38] <llutz> mdunc_: who uses classful netw today?
[09:39] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: i’ll admit, it’s been several years since i’ve been heavily involved with networking stuff.
[09:39] <robin2> motz: Don't know, did not try pipelight.
[09:41] <Viking667> I'm just finding out how easy it is to toast this version of Ubuntu
[09:41] <Viking667> can't believe it. Make some changes, using the Settings app, no less... next time I try logging in, things lock up for no percievable reason.
[09:41] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ eh?  I don't mind if it's not your field; I just want to fix my boot record ;_;
[09:42] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ or, rather, if it hasn't been your specialty for a while
[09:42] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: last time i did networking was when i was in the military (early 2000’s) and the military is already several years behind in tech.
[09:43] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: been doing system administration since.  anyway, how’s the cable?
[09:43] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ I hear even now they're still using Windows 2000
[09:43] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: in 2008, i was contracting for the USMC.  they were still using Windows NT.  fortunately, that’s been decommissioned.  they are mostly on 2003 now.
[09:44] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: Air Force is ahead of the USMC as far as tech goes.  Air Force was upgrading to 2008 when I quit contracting.  Not sure what the USMC is still using, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they still use 2000.
[09:45] <robin2> mdunc_: Nothing Wrong with Windows 2000. If you have compatible hardware. ;-)
[09:45] <NeedSupport> hello everyone i just installed latest ubuntu but it won't let me see flash player even if the non free restricted is installed codecs and says flash is installed can you help me ? i removed firefox to put chrome
[09:45] <Viking667> Chrome comes with its own flash player
[09:45] <mdunc_> robin2: and as long as you don’t attach it to the internet.
[09:45] <shean> hello room i need some information  :)   i am planning to migrate from windows to  ubuntu linux full time  is antivirus really needed in linux  ? :)
[09:45] <NeedSupport> i know but when i do the flash test with chrome it tells me i got install flash plugin pepper non free
[09:45] <NeedSupport> can you help?
[09:46] <Viking667> I can't help, but that sounds correct. What issue are you having?
[09:46] <Ben64> shean: not really
[09:46] <NeedSupport> it won't let me get flash
[09:46] <NeedSupport> but it says it's installed from restricted
[09:46] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ the cable appears to be providing solid internet connection to the laptop
[09:46] <NeedSupport> i'm new to linux so need help solve this issues
[09:46] <Ben64> NeedSupport: if you did the flash test and it worked... then it has flash
[09:46] <NeedSupport> it diden't work
[09:46] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: interesting.  light’s still red when you plug it in to your linux box?
[09:46] <NeedSupport> it tells me to install plugin
[09:47] <NeedSupport> when i go to flash site
[09:47] <NeedSupport> can i show you screenshot?
[09:47] <Viking667> hm. where did you go to check flash?
[09:47] <Ben64> NeedSupport: sure, go ahead
[09:47] <NeedSupport> adobe site
[09:47] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ yep, still shows red
[09:47] <Viking667> and, what version of chrome do you have installed?
[09:47] <NeedSupport> ok done where i upload it?
[09:47] <Viking667> for a picture?
[09:48] <Viking667> I use imgur
[09:48] <NeedSupport> yes for screenshot
[09:48] <Viking667> if you wish, you can go to imgur.com, and find out how to upload it there.
[09:48] <Viking667> I don't remember how to do it, and it's pretty late for me.
[09:48] <NeedSupport> http://s28.postimg.org/wz6wv36nh/Schermata_da_2014_05_28_11_47_32.png
[09:49] <Viking667> heh. That'll do. I'll check that.
[09:49] <NeedSupport> ok altough i got flash installed from restricted ubuntu says i basically don't have it adobe site says as i use chrome removed firefox
[09:49] <NeedSupport> thanks
[09:49] <Avi67> Hello everyone, is there any way out in ubuntu to  install the packages along with its dependencies offline?
[09:50] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: what’s the output of ‘mii-tool’
[09:50] <NeedSupport> did you get any idea of what it could be Viking667 ?
[09:50] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ SCIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported / no MII interfaces found
[09:51] <NeedSupport> i was also curious to know if once i got 7zip if i also need ark?
[09:51] <Pablo|> what ubuntu beginners-tutorial do you recommend? (to read, not youtube)
[09:51] <Viking667> needsupport: I don't know. I don't know what formats ark supports
[09:51] <NeedSupport> ok so ill just keep 7zip
[09:52] <Viking667> check preferences
[09:52] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: ok, how about ‘lshw -class network’
[09:52] <NeedSupport> so Viking667  how can i solve my flash problem that even if i got it installed from restricted i don't have it with crome?
[09:53] <Viking667> oooo.... hang on. NeedSupport: feed this into your browser:   chrome://plugins
[09:53] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ returns nothing
[09:53] <NeedSupport> was the screenshot of any help?
[09:53] <NeedSupport> thanks
[09:53] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: that’s unusual.  are you running this as root?
[09:54] <Viking667> NeedSupport: it helps, but is strange.
[09:54] <Hyperiant> yeah; I ran it without root and it warned me that I should use root
[09:54] <NeedSupport> ok i got just remote desktop in it but i disabled it for security reasons
[09:54] <Hyperiant> so then I used root and I still got nothing
[09:54] <NeedSupport> nothing else in plugins
[09:54] <Viking667> Ah. You should have had Adobe Flash plugin.
[09:54] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: what about just ‘lshw’
[09:54] <NeedSupport> dont have that do you advise me to reinstall chrome?
[09:54] <Viking667> ... and some other plugins. Where did youinstall your Chrome?
[09:54] <NeedSupport> or what should i do?
[09:54] <Viking667> and, do you have Chromium instead of Google Chrome?
[09:54] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ returns a looot of stuff
[09:55] <NeedSupport> as i got just the remote destkop nothing there
[09:55] <NeedSupport> chromium yes
[09:55] <NeedSupport> the one in ubuntu i removed firefox
[09:55] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: anything related to your nic?
[09:55] <NeedSupport> and all it's component
[09:55] <Viking667> Ahhhhhh. That explains things a little better.
[09:55] <Viking667> I'll try something here.
[09:55] <Viking667> please wait.
[09:55] <NeedSupport> thanks :)
[09:55] <Pablo|> what ubuntu beginners-tutorial do you recommend? (to read, not youtube)
[09:56] <llutz> !manual | Pablo|
[09:56] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ *-bridge / description: Ethernet inferface / product: MCP61 Ethernet
[09:56] <Avi67> Please help, is there any way out in ubuntu to  install the packages along with its dependencies offline?
[09:56] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: bridge?  interesting.  is this a fresh install?
[09:56] <NeedSupport> do we need to disable zetigist in ubuntu or other stuff for security or everything is all ready safe apart the remote in chrome?
[09:56] <Pablo|> llutz, obuttu: THANKS
[09:56] <llutz> !offline | Avi67
[09:56] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ this is a live CD because my normal install has broken X
[09:57] <NeedSupport> !it
[09:57] <NeedSupport> do we need to disable zetigist in ubuntu or other stuff for security or everything is all ready safe apart the remote in chrome? anyone knows?
[09:57] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: in ‘ip addr show’, what devices are listed?  anything other than eth0 and lo?
[09:58] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ nope, just lo and eth0
[09:58] <Viking667> I don't honestly know, I'm sorry. I run locally only here. I haven't run remote desktops for a very very long time.
[09:58] <NeedSupport> i removed all the remote in ubuntu
[09:58] <NeedSupport> so should be safe now Viking667  and got remote disabled on chrome
[09:58] <NeedSupport> you got the idea you wanted to try or you advise me to reinstall chromium from software center where i got it from?
[09:59] <Kuro> hello, anyone knows if exist a process call .flush?
[09:59] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: nforce chipset?
[09:59] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ I'm not sure if it's nforce or not; I haven't needed to bother with installing its drivers before
[10:00] <NeedSupport> i think best is i remove chromium and install chrome from the site Viking667  what you think?
[10:00] <NeedSupport> that should solve
[10:00] <NeedSupport> i guess
[10:00] <Viking667> You could also try installing gnash
[10:00] <Viking667> that is a free flash player.
[10:00] <Avi67> ubottu: Actually the thing is i wanr to install applications to a system which doesnt have interent.
[10:01] <Viking667> Avi67: uhm, ubottu is merely a bot.
[10:01] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: in ‘ifconfig’, does it show any values for RX/TX packets and/or errors?
[10:01] <NeedSupport> what's gnash?
[10:01] <Viking667> it's a flash player
[10:01] <Viking667> ... but it uses open-source code instead of closed-source.
[10:01] <NeedSupport> how about if i remove chromium Viking667  Viking667 and install chrome from website?
[10:01] <Viking667> If you want the latest flash in Chrome, yes.
[10:01] <NeedSupport> is that good same and will get security updates same?
[10:02] <Hyperiant> mdunc_: eth0 RX packets:0 errors:1236 / TX packets:889 errors:0
[10:02] <Avi67> Viking667: but its still under developing mode i guess.
[10:02] <Viking667> You don't have to remove Chromium either, but Google Chrome keeps itself up to date if you install it.
[10:02] <NeedSupport> i mean if i install chrome from website how i get updates?
[10:02] <NeedSupport> a ok
[10:02] <NeedSupport> perfect
[10:02] <NeedSupport> let me try ill be back thanks for support :)
[10:02] <Viking667> okay. Good luck
[10:02] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ RX overruns:1235 frame:1
[10:02] <Viking667> I need to depart.
[10:02] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: ok, that’s something.  your MTU value is 1500?
[10:03] <Hyperiant> that is correct
[10:03]  * Avi67 slaps [DS]Matej around a bit with a large S60 device
[10:04]  * Avi67 slaps [Derek] around a bit with a large S60 device
[10:05] <ahmed89>  hi, im using xfce , i want to make pcmanfm handle my desktop everytime on startup , so i go to session and startup in xfce settings manager and added  the command "pcmanfm --desktop" but that didn't work and thunar handle the desktop every startup , i don't know why , but i think maybe because the command is executed before thunar even started sorry for bad english
[10:05] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ MTU is 1500 for eth0 and...16436 for loc?
[10:05] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: are the ports on your router configured for 10/100 Full Duplex or Half Duplex?
[10:06] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ is there a software way to find out?
[10:06] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: log in to your router’s web interface and look for any setting related to your physical ports
[10:07] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: not sure what “loc” is.  trying to look that up now
[10:07] <Avi67> Please help, i wanr to install applications to my system which doesnt have interent. So can i transfer the packages from another system?
[10:07] <llutz> !offline | Avi67
[10:08] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ my router says that its MTU size (bytes) is 1492...if that affects anything
[10:08] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: leave that as is.  couldn’t hurt to try setting your machine to 1492 though.
[10:09] <arfent> Hello I have a question about ubuntu 12.04.4 desktop. I've installed it and applied all the updates from update manager. I haven't clicked any of the empty boxes inside the update manager myself, I merely clicked on install updates. I've also done sudo apt-get update and dist-upgrade in case this hadn't covered everything. But when I check openssl version it's still on a vulnerable one. My question is, what kind of updates are necessary to
[10:09] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ how do I do that?
[10:09] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: although, i think incorrect mtu values will just degrade performance, not cause the problems you are having
[10:09] <llutz> !sslbug | arfent
[10:09] <arfent> What I mean is, without having to go updating openssl, is there anything in ubuntu that takes care of all vulnerabilities?
[10:09] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: don’t worry about it for now.  i’m pretty sure your problem is elsewhere.
[10:10] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ incidentally, if you know an easier way to fix my mbr problem then all of this is unnecessary
[10:11] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: i missed your mbr issues unfortunately.  you’ll have to get me up to speed on that.
[10:11] <stetho> Hi all. Is there a correct/clever way to install packages from one release in to a lower numbered release - trusty and precise to be exact?
[10:11] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ power cut out and when I tried to boot back up, GRUB loaded as normal and when I selected Windows it went straight to the system recovery console
[10:12] <CrowX-> are the software repositories for ubuntu and kubuntu the same?
[10:12] <arfent> llutz: yes thanks I was already on that page when I asked the question. Is there no package manager that does this for the passive user? Because with this page I jhave to update it myself. Something like a windows update? You know the confusion  here is that I've already followed the advice on that page because htis is the desktop version and all that page says is to select the pending updates in the update manager.
[10:12] <llutz> CrowX-: yes
[10:12] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: what version of windows?
[10:12] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ windows 7 enterprise
[10:13] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ after some fiddling around in the CLI I now boot up to a "missing operating system" error
[10:13] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: am i correect assuming this was an ubuntu/windows dualboot?
[10:13] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ mm-hmm
[10:13] <arfent> llutz: shall I add canonical partners?
[10:13] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: only one hard drive?
[10:14] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ 3 hard drives; 1 Windows 7, 1 Ubuntu, and 1 for storage (that's empty right now anyway)
[10:15] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ every attempt to fix the mbr with the console ends with a "success" that accomplishes nothing, or a "file system not recognized" error
[10:15] <hdtune2k> Does it has uharc unpacker/packer on linux os?
[10:15] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ but diskpart recognizes the NTFS formatting and DOS can see the directories and files just fine
[10:15] <llutz> arfent: if you run apt-get dist-upgrade or the system run latest upgrades (which should be done automatically by default afaik) there is no further action needed
[10:15] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: i think this is fixable.  hold on...
[10:16] <hdtune2k> err
[10:17] <hdtune2k> or unrar?
[10:17] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: are you still in your ubuntu livecd?
[10:17] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ yeah, it's still up
[10:18] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: and no network connectivity right?
[10:18] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ heh, yeah, it's still broken
[10:18] <arfent> llutz: I've done all that and I'm still on openssl version 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012, which afaik is vulnerable.
[10:18] <arfent> llutz: and I just rebooted the system in case that was the issue too.
[10:18] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ I have a thumb drive if you need me to transfer files though
[10:19] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: /dev/sda is the drive you boot from?
[10:19] <NeedHelp> hello is viking still here?
[10:19] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ I'll have to verify that...is gparted installed on the live CD?
[10:20] <NeedHelp> i solved my flash problem only thing i would like to know now is how to install mono for silverlight ? as i can't get to see silverlight pages
[10:20] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: yeah, gparted should be there
[10:20] <NeedHelp> how we solve this?
[10:20] <CrowX-> should I download Skype from their website? Because the muon software center doesn't show skype to me
[10:21] <Hyperiant> NeedHelp: Moonlight used to give support for Silverlight but it's been discontinued; I think the only way to use Silverlight is by fiddling with WINE
[10:21] <NeedHelp> so i should install wine and silverlight?
[10:21] <NeedHelp> and is it really needed this silverlight ?
[10:21] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ /dev/sdb is my Windows install
[10:21] <llutz> arfent: apt-cache policy openssl              no newer candidate available?
[10:21] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: which one had grub installed?
[10:21] <lost6> hi all. I hooked here cuz i got problem with Bios_grub being `kinda` corrupted it has 4 bad superblock how to correct this?
[10:21] <NeedHelp> if you say it's a must to have Hyperiant  ill install wine and then silverlight if it works fine or you tell us?
[10:21] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: usually it’s sda
[10:22] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ hmm...how do I check that?
[10:22] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: well, which hard drive is the first in your boot order?
[10:22] <CrowX-> my konsole doesn't have colored filenames like it did in the installation cd. How can I enable them?
[10:22] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ right now it's sdb
[10:22] <gustavo> Will Ubuntu 14.10 have new and prettier icons???
[10:23] <NeedHelp> so what you advise Hyperiant ?
[10:23] <carlos> hola
[10:23] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: ok, what we’ll do is reinstall grub to /dev/sdb then.
[10:23] <carlos> holasçç
[10:24] <Hyperiant> NeedHelp: does silverlight work in firefox on windows?
[10:24] <Guest66825> hola
[10:24] <NeedHelp> anyone knows if we need silverlight install wine to get it or we can be without?
[10:24] <NeedHelp> i don't know Hyperiant
[10:24] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275  Follow section 13.
[10:24] <NeedHelp> on windows yes
[10:24] <NeedHelp> ubuntu not
[10:24] <arfent> llutz: Well, this instruction you gave me does not indeed show a newer candidate available. It seems to be up to date, and yet the openssl version query gives me what seems like an old openssl version. What do you get when you do openssl version on yours?
[10:24] <NeedHelp> linux i mean as mono is not supported anymore should i install wine?
[10:25] <ikonia> what mono is dead ?
[10:25] <llutz> arfent: i'm on trusty, it's OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014, 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.1
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !m0no
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !mono
[10:25] <ikonia> looks still active to me
[10:26] <cfhowlett> !info mono
[10:26] <stemid> first two results when googling "gjs-console ubuntu" are two launchpad bug reports that are both confirmed because they affect multiple users and then closed when they can't generate a useful symbolic stack trace. which is funny to me who started using ubuntu (14.04) a month ago and has had this gjs-console thing crash at least twice a week since.
[10:26] <ikonia> I'd not heard anything about it being killed as a project
[10:26] <mdunc_> arfent: ubuntu openssl package will show an old version.  the fixes for heartbleed were backported.
[10:26] <arfent> llutz: So it seems like the vulnerability hasn't been updated for 12.04. That's pretty serious.
[10:26] <NeedHelp> anyone solved the silverlight problem?
[10:26] <mdunc_> arfent: it is not vulnerable.  don’t worry.
[10:27] <ikonia> NeedHelp: what exact silverlight problem
[10:27] <arfent> mdunc_: then why does their package for openssl not update it?
[10:27] <NeedHelp> i mean do we need it or not ?
[10:27] <NeedHelp> as we can't see websites made in silverlight
[10:27] <NeedHelp> so is the solution install wine or what we got to do?
[10:27] <ikonia> so there is the old "moonlight" project as part of mono for that
[10:27] <ikonia> how compatible it is, I don't know
[10:28] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ one of these days I should reinstall Ubuntu and get it working again
[10:28] <mdunc_> arfent: because the version of openssl for ubuntu 12.04 is frozen.  all they will do is backport security vulnerabilities.  this doesn’t change the version numbers.
[10:28] <ikonia> NeedHelp: is this for something like netflix by any chance ?
[10:28] <NeedHelp> no was just wondering if we need it?
[10:28] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ after weeks of trying to get it to install the proprietary AMD drivers, I just gave up on the whole thing
[10:28] <ikonia> NeedHelp: who is "we" ?
[10:28] <NeedHelp> and i installed the java 7 and 6 plus both sofware installers did i do right ?
[10:28] <ikonia> NeedHelp: if you want to use silverlight contnet - you will need silverlight
[10:28] <NeedHelp> we i mean everyone
[10:29] <NeedHelp> if it's not a must it's ok
[10:29] <ikonia> NeedHelp: it's up to you if it's a must
[10:29] <NeedHelp> can you please check me if i got unecessary stuff installed?
[10:29] <ikonia> NeedHelp: what content you need/how flexible you are in it
[10:29] <NeedHelp> as installed both java 6 and 7 plus the 2 sofware installers
[10:29] <NeedHelp> is this ok?
[10:29] <ikonia> you can have multiple hava versions, sure
[10:29] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ alright, I installed GRUB using the guide, and booting to that drive doesn't even give me GRUB; it just says "missing operating system"
[10:30] <greybrd> how to hide wifi ssid in ubuntu hotspot? any ideas, please suggest.
[10:30] <greybrd> im using ap-hotspot.
[10:30] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: try booting to a different drive.  i’ve seen issues before where the boot order in bios can change what is detected as /dev/sda or sdb or whatever.
[10:31] <NeedHelp> is there a way to check if i got everything i need repository sofware etc and not extra usless stuff?
[10:31] <NeedHelp> like from some console command i can give you or pastebin?
[10:31] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ I looked at the drive in gparted and checked its size and partitions to make certain it was the right one; I only have one 2TB drive in there
[10:31] <ikonia> NeedHelp: what you need is what "you" need,
[10:31] <ikonia> NeedHelp: we can't tell you what "you" need
[10:32] <arfent> mdunc_: OK I see, so everything's under control then. However how do we really know they didn't screw up and forget to upgrade 12.04 lol?
[10:32] <NeedHelp> ok well then i think i'm good thanks :)
[10:32] <NeedHelp> last thing how do i send crome icon to desktop instead of the sidebar?
[10:33] <mdunc_> arfent: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/openssl/+changelog
[10:33] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ incidentally, I believe GRUB is still lurking on my other d--
[10:33] <mdunc_> arfent: it was fixed on April 7
[10:34] <NeedHelp> anyone knows?
[10:34] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ well grub didn't install to sdb but booting from the drive that's supposed to be my Ubuntu drive results in Windows 7 coming up successfully
[10:34] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: very strange
[10:34] <Hyperiant> I just don't know anymore
[10:34] <Hyperiant> at least it works
[10:34] <NeedHelp> i need move the crome icon to desktop instead of sidebar if possible
[10:34] <arfent> mdunc_: thanks
[10:34] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ I'll change the boot order
[10:34] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: grub can also have a mind of it’s own when it comes to drive detection order.  multi drive systems can be finicky.
[10:35] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: it’s unfortunate that they made grub even more complicated with grub2 :-/
[10:35] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ many thanks for the assistance; my computers are in a league of their own regarding issues with linux compatibility
[10:35] <NeedHelp> you know how to do that Hyperiant  ? as then i'm good to go
[10:36] <Hyperiant> needhelp: I believe you just search for Chrome in the sidebar and drag the icon to the desktop
[10:36] <NeedHelp> i did try but diden't work
[10:36] <NeedHelp> any alternative?
[10:36] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: haha, i hear you.  i have a computer that has bizarre boot issues too.  it can’t decide if it wasn’t to boot fedora (which won’t work) or centos.  i need to just wipe and reload all the drives.
[10:37] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ but who has time for that?
[10:37] <arfent> mdunc_: Well to be fair, that changelog doesn't actually say it's backporting the fixes back onto a previous version. It's just saying it fixed them.
[10:37] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: not me lol.  i just manually pick the drive when i boot it up and then don’t turn it off.
[10:38] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ I could've used a live CD to configure GRUB to automatically select my Windows partition years ago but I'm too lazy to bother with it
[10:38] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ so I just take the 5 seconds to tab down with my arrow keys and select the proper entry
[10:38] <arfent> While I'm here, has anyone gotten Trusty Tahr to work inside a virtualbox on a laptop with HD 4000 Intel graphics? Huge lag issues and all the instructions I've found only talk about nvidia and ATI drivers.
[10:39] <mdunc_> arfent: well, the source is there for you to verify yourself, but that’s what they did.  that changelog lists the specific patches that were applied (ie: debian/patches/CVE-2014-0160.patch for the heartbleed bug)
[10:40] <mdunc_> uh, thanks ubottu lol
[10:41] <mdunc_> arfent: you can run “apt-cache policy openssl” to verify your package version against that changelog
[10:41] <CrowX-> are the graphical software managers a joke?
[10:41] <arfent> mdunc_: Yes I see thanks. I ran that and it says it's in the latest package so I guess there's nothing to worry about.
[10:42] <arfent> CrowX: which ones? For Intel?
[10:42] <CrowX-> I just installed kubuntu and muon software center can't find vim. Nor nginx for that matter.
[10:42] <CrowX-> I had to use apt-get
[10:42] <Ben64> CrowX-: try synaptic
[10:42] <Hyperiant> mdunc_ g'night, thanks for all the help
[10:43] <mdunc_> Hyperiant: good night
[10:43] <mdunc_> arfent: in virtualbox, did you turn on 3d accelleration?
[10:43] <CrowX-> Ben64, is "apt-get install synaptic" enough?
[10:44] <arfent> mdunc_: yes and no luck.
[10:44] <Ben64> CrowX-: probably need sudo, but yeah
[10:44] <mdunc_> arfent: what’s the host OS?
[10:44] <arfent> windows ultimate
[10:44] <arfent> 7
[10:44] <CrowX-> why isn't synaptic default if it's better?
[10:45] <IdleOne> it isn't better
[10:45] <mdunc_> arfent: best thing you can do if you’ve already ensured 3d acceleration support is enabled for the VM, is install the virtualbox additions.  that will definitely speed it up.
[10:45] <CrowX-> IdleOne, oh? what's wrong with synaptic then? :)
[10:45] <sydneyslaptop> Synaptic is not better
[10:45] <IdleOne> nothing
[10:45] <IdleOne> it just is not better
[10:46] <mdunc_> arfent: make sure your virtualbox is up to date too
[10:46] <sydneyslaptop> it features more programs though
[10:46] <CrowX-> well muon can't find vim nor nginx. If synaptic isn't better, something must be wrong with it too.
[10:46] <arfent> mdunc_: Yeah thanks but no luck there either, did that and it wouldn't budge, super slow fade ins and outs
[10:46] <sydneyslaptop> but the programs are all out of date
[10:46] <CrowX-> sydneyslaptop, synaptic's programs are all out of date?
[10:46] <mdunc_> arfent: you have 14.04 installed in a vm or just booting from the livecd?
[10:47] <sydneyslaptop> CrowX-: just like ubuntu software centers
[10:47] <sydneyslaptop> programs
[10:47] <IdleOne> all the package managers will show you whatever is in the repos you have enabled. If you are not seeing vim then you don't have the main repo enabled which means you have a bigger issue
[10:47] <CrowX-> so the only good way is to use apt-get
[10:47] <Ben64> CrowX-: synaptic works fine, its not out of date at all
[10:47] <IdleOne> CrowX-: try apt-cache search vim
[10:47] <arfent> mdunc_: virtualbox is installed up to 4.3.10, not to the absolute latest. It's actually installed inside the vm yes.
[10:48] <CrowX-> IdleOne, I already installed it with apt
[10:48] <sydneyslaptop> CrowX-: I am not sure,or a ppa is what i use
[10:48] <IdleOne> CrowX-: alright so what is the problem then?
[10:48] <Ben64> IdleOne: the issue is when CrowX- searched for vim with muon (which i have no experience with) it didn't show vim in the results
[10:48] <arfent> mdunc_: damn that changelog, you must be right. Virtualbox changelog for 4.3.12 adds support for 14.04. Damn it I erased the vm last night lol.
[10:49] <CrowX-> IdleOne, that muon couldn't find vim nor nginx. So I wondered just how broken things are and if I should uninstall it completely. And if synaptic would be a better replacement or I should just use apt
[10:49] <mdunc_> arfent: lol
[10:49] <Ben64> CrowX-, IdleOne: i've had similar experiences with the ubuntu software center, where it tries to provide friendly results, when i just want the actual results
[10:50] <mdunc_> i’m out.  later everyone
[10:50] <IdleOne> CrowX-: I personally use apt-get because I prefer it and am used to it.
[10:50] <rmoore> hey. i keep trying to use unity tweak tool to adjust the placement of window icons and it wont apply my "tweaks"
[10:51] <karen_> Русские есть?
[10:51] <IdleOne> !ru | karen_
[10:51] <sydneyslaptop> Ben64: if you look,Synaptic and USC,both offer the same version of software.And all the versions are old ;)
[10:51] <karen_> #ubuntu-ru
[10:51] <Ben64> !latest | sydneyslaptop
[10:52] <sydneyslaptop> !backports
[10:53] <sydneyslaptop> Ben64: I know that :P
[10:53] <greybrd> how to hide wifi ssid in ubuntu hotspot? any ideas, please suggest. im using ap-hotspot.
[10:53] <Ben64> sydneyslaptop: then don't say they're old?
[10:54] <sydneyslaptop> Ben64: oklet me refrase it. They are not the latest. ;)
[10:54] <ikonia> sydneyslaptop: but you said you "know this" - so if you know this why are you surprised by it
[10:55] <Ben64> sydneyslaptop: why even mention it? gives people the wrong impression
[10:56] <sydneyslaptop> Ben64: I rest my case. :P
[10:56] <ikonia> sydneyslaptop: ???? you're making no sense
[10:57] <bazhang> sydneyslaptop, did you have an actual support question? or just wish to chit chat
[10:57] <jimi_> Can someone help me figure out this dependency issue? everything i install from apt-get after upgrading to 14.04 fails w/ this message : http://pastie.org/9229826#5
[10:57] <alberto> ciao
[11:01] <CrowX-> guys
[11:01] <CrowX-> if I'm using kubuntu, should I install kynaptic instead of synaptic?
[11:02] <bazhang> CrowX-, there's no such thing
[11:02] <CrowX-> oh, it's from 2005
[11:02] <CrowX-> nvm
[11:07] <bgardner> jimi_: Give this a read and see if it relates: http://askubuntu.com/questions/246970/apt-get-broken-no-module-named-debian-deb822
[11:12] <greybrd> hi guys... how to hide wifi ssid in ubuntu hotspot? any ideas, please suggest. im using ap-hotspot.
[11:17] <mexi_d3_> greybrd, I would suggest not doing so as it carries a security risk. As no SSID is broadcast, it makes it easy for someone else to impersonate your hotspot and your clients will silently, happily connect to the 'bad guy'
[11:17] <mexi_d3_> greybrd, However i you want to proceed, all I can recommend is the hotspot docs
[11:18] <greybrd> mexi_d3_: but I'm just using my laptop as a hotspot in office premisis. only that my colleagues should not know that.
[11:19] <vladhaund> can anyone help me how to disable/hide this menu bar when I try to type in using Anthy? | http://i.imgur.com/Y8oM2PU.png
[11:20] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: If the 'bad guy' doesn't know your password, surely that shouldn't be an issue?
[11:23] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, An SSID is just a network name. He's creating a new network.
[11:24] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: I understand this. Hiding the ssid doesn't let anyone impersonate your hotspot if they don't know your network keys though? Your client won't connect?
[11:25] <greybrd> mexi_d3_: thanks for your input. but I'm just curious if that's possible. if yes, is there any pointer over the internet?
[11:26] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, What makes you think WPA2 is secure?
[11:27] <Pricey> greybrd: Googling around doesn't offer much hope if you want to use the gui to set it up annoyingly..
[11:27] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: I didn't make that assumption with my question. I'm asking you why hiding the ssid makes things worse?
[11:28] <tfgv> can somebody take a look at my boot-info summary?
[11:30] <trndr> Pricey, iirc, then hiding the ssid, results in the client sending requests for saied ssid, when not connected, which can get spoofed, and hence you can get half of the 4-way handshake, which is enugh to crack the key. This is way off-topic btw
[11:30] <mexi_d3_> There's also the problem of badly written networking code that prefers the broadcast name when connecting
[11:32] <Pricey> trndr: Wow, that's very bad if true, do you have a source for that?
[11:32] <mexi_d3_> To be honest that's getting better these days but it's still a problem with e.g. older phones
[11:33] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, Any network scanners will also reveal hidden SSID so it's no protection against anyone who isn't casually looking
[11:33] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: Sure, I won't disagree with that but it's not the point I'm trying to argue here :)
[11:34] <mexi_d3_> Of course he's just doing it to sneak onto wifi without anyone noticing so that isn't an issue for him
[11:34] <mexi_d3_> Basically the problem is crap clients that auto-connect over zealously
[11:34] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: trndr: See I don't see why this issue that you're suggesting exists wouldn't also exist when an ssid is broadcast.
[11:35] <Pricey> Anyone could still impersonate the AP, "get half of the 4-way handshake, which is enough to crack the key." (if that's even possible)
[11:35] <trndr> Pricey, not by hand, it's been some time I messed about with WiFi security. If the ssid is broadcast, then the client won't ask for the ssid.
[11:36] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, Because I believe  you will get some of notification if someone tries to impersonate an AP that's broadcasting.
[11:36] <Pricey> trndr: "not by hand"?
[11:37] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: How do you know? It's being impersonated ;)
[11:37] <Pricey> trndr: mexi_d3_: I really would love to see any source that you have for this vulnerability...
[11:37] <trndr> Pricey, don't have a reliable source to link to, only working from memory
[11:37] <mexi_d3_> In theory it should associate to the one with the stronger signal
[11:39] <Pricey> I'd find a source before scaring everyone about it next time.
[11:39] <mexi_d3_> I've got duplicate SSID errors before
[11:39] <khax> erry
[11:40] <Macer> well.. i'll be damned
[11:40] <Macer> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[11:40] <Macer> that actually worked for netflix :)
[11:40] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: I'm talking about your accusation that hiding an ssid will cause clients to connect to a bad actor and give away encryption keys. I'm not talking about other issues. If you've got a source of the former, please let me know.
[11:40] <Macer> i'm watching it in ff in ubuntu now
[11:41] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, Everytime you connect to wpa2 it performs a 4 way handshake, which can be captured and the password cracked from this. This happens, broadcast or not.
[11:42] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, For example a stadnard technique to get onto a WPA2 wifi is to send a deauthentication signal to the client, causing it to re-connect, and then grabbing the handshake as it does do
[11:42] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, The issue with not broadcasting SSID is that it confuses some older/bad network cards and makes it easier to impersonate your AP
[11:43] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: Do you have a source for this?
[11:43] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, Read the docs for aircrack-ng
[11:43] <Pricey> Macer: Wow that's from august... how'd i not know about it.
[11:44] <tfgv> doesn't it take a year or so to crack a 10 digit numeric password with aircrack-ng?
[11:44] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, You can PM if you want, it's a bit offtopic for this channel
[11:45] <compdoc> what is the best way to secure wifi?
[11:45] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: Meh I'm an op here, it's not an issue :) I'm going to head to lunch now but I still don't get why using a hidden ssid makes this worse.
[11:45] <Pricey> compdoc: Encryption!
[11:45] <compdoc> yeah, but which?
[11:45] <Macer> Pricey: lol. yah. good stuff. i tried it in ubuntu 14.04 with firefox
[11:45] <Macer> it works :)
[11:45] <Macer> i can use netflix on my ubuntu laptop now (finally)
[11:46] <compdoc> netflix is great
[11:47] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, Well as already said, certain poorly implemented systems can't deal with it properly. For example http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/bb726942.aspx
[11:47] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, TO quote from the official source: "Therefore, using non-broadcast networks compromises the privacy of the wireless network configuration of a Windows XP or Windows Server 2003-based wireless client because it is periodically disclosing its set of preferred non-broadcast wireless networks"
[11:47] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, As I said, its about older/badly written devices
[11:52] <tfgv> please can somebody help with boot-repair ?
[11:54] <gyaresu> Is there a specific channel that's best to ask questions about managing Ubuntu in an office? And how I might setup something similar to a domain controller. Or how to manage multiple machines?
[11:54] <JerryP> anyone know how to add a folder to "Places"? I installed grive and now have a "home\google drive" folder, but I can't seem to get it into "Places". Thanks!
[11:55] <BananaManLinux> how can i remove ubuntu from my bios?
[11:56] <mexi_d3_> JerryP, You can bookmark it. Open the folder and go to the bookmarks menu in nautilus. Otherwise you might try experimenting with adding to ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[11:56] <Ben64> BananaManLinux: ubuntu doesn't go in the bios
[11:57] <BananaManLinux> yes it does
[11:57] <BananaManLinux> under boot it's there
[11:58] <JerryP> mexi_d3_, thanks, but do you know how to add a bookmark in 14.04? Right click on the file doesnt give an option and in bookmarks, I can only seem to change or remove, not add. I also looked in the user-dirs.dirs, but there was even a folder in there (templates) that wasnt in "places" so I dont think that would help
[11:58] <Ben64> BananaManLinux: that would be a drive you can boot from, ubuntu doesn't go into the bios
[11:58] <mexi_d3_> JerryP, In 14.04 if you open a folder and go into that folder (not right mouse) but use the menu, look in the bookmarks menu
[11:59] <BananaManLinux> I don't have ubuntu installed though
[11:59] <JerryP> mexi_d3_, thanks! that was silly, hah. any idea how to bump it up to places?
[11:59] <mexi_d3_> Technically he might be right if it's a uefi boot loader, but then maybe it would be wrong to call it bios :)
[11:59] <trijntje> BananaManLinux: does it look like this? https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z5H5ZrZpFhI/UTOyE3G55CI/AAAAAAAAEmM/XiJDa7ktIC8/s1600/grub2.png
[12:00] <mexi_d3_> BananaManLinux, YOu want to remove ubuntu from the start up options, right? What other OS do you have there?
[12:00] <BananaManLinux> nope that's grub i don't have that
[12:00] <Ben64> BananaManLinux: can you take a picture
[12:00] <BananaManLinux> under "boot" in my bios it says there's ubuntu but it's not installed :/
[12:00] <mexi_d3_> JerryP, It's not a mistake you made, they need to fix the UI for that
[12:01] <mexi_d3_> JerryP, can you drag to places?
[12:01] <JerryP> nah
[12:17] <bfig> hello, I'm trying to configure my cm storm sirus headphones to work with ubuntu on lxde, how can I select the output device?
[12:34] <Voyage> export path issue? I can do which phantomjs      which gives me     /usr/bin/phantomjs       but in the java app, it says: HTTP Status 500 - The path to the driver executable must be set by the phantomjs.binary.path capability/system property/PATH variable; for more information, see https://github.com/ariya/phantomjs/wiki. The latest version can be downloaded from http://phantomjs.org/download.html
[12:44] <Pricey> mexi_d3_: That results in "a breach of privacy", it lets an attacker know what networks the client is trying to connect to. That's not what you put forward earlier though.
[12:44] <shunya_chakra> hi, I installed ubuntu 14.04, on the end of this year ubuntu 14.10 will come...
[12:45] <shunya_chakra> Is that time i need to fromat my data install 14.10
[12:45] <shunya_chakra> ?
[12:45] <DJones> shunya_chakra: No you won't need to do that, you can upgrade the existing system
[12:45] <DJones> !upgrade | shunya_chakra
[12:45] <theadmin> shunya_chakra: No, you can upgrade without losing any data, programs, or settings.
[12:46] <DJones> shunya_chakra: When 14.10 is released, you'll get a pop up notification telling you about the new you release and asking if you want to upgrade or not
[12:46] <shunya_chakra> Wow that's cool...
[12:46] <theadmin> shunya_chakra: However, I personally recommend to stay with 14.04 until 16.04 comes out (which is the next planned LTS), because LTS releases generally are more stable
[12:46] <shunya_chakra> Thanks DJones, theadmin , ubottu
[12:47] <theadmin> shunya_chakra: You will be able to upgrade to the next LTS release directly if you stay on 14.04, too
[12:47] <shunya_chakra> ok xx.04 is more stable
[12:47] <nashant> Hey everyone, I'm sure this is something that gets asked all the time, but here goes. I'm trying to share some windows folders with my linux box, but only one linux user having write access. I'm mounting with the username/pass that are set up on the windows box and the uid/gid of the linux user. Unfortunately I'm still getting permission errors. Any ideas?
[12:47] <shunya_chakra> Will it work fine?
[12:48] <theadmin> shunya_chakra: Not xx.04, LTS releases, which are every two years. LTS releases are by default configured to upgrade only to other LTS releases, so you should be fine, you'll be warned when a new LTS is out
[12:49] <decci> I installed a fresh Ubuntu 12.04 server on virtualbox. While I run apt-get update it throws the following error:E:GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signature were were invalid: NODATA 2
[12:49] <decci> How to fix this
[12:49] <shunya_chakra> theadmin that's awesome!! thanks for info :)
[12:50] <nashant> Ignore my question. Fixed it
[12:52] <TJ-> decci: That is often/usually caused by the repository being in the process of updating the  mirror, and you end up with broken files. Try "sudo apt-get update" again
[12:53] <decci> TJ-: I tried but the same error
[12:54] <decci> TJ-: How shall I ensure I have all valid signature in place
[12:54] <decci> TJ-: It has been last 4 hours I am struggling to get it work
[12:56] <francisquare> decci, try this sudo apt-get install deb.torproject.org-keyring
[12:56] <_1_Micky152> hi anyone there
[12:56] <TJ-> decci: OK, the easy way is to delete the corrupt downloaded files. Check if you have anything in "/var/cache/apt/archives/partial/"
[12:56] <francisquare> decci, sudo apt-get update
[12:57] <_1_Micky152> hi
[12:57] <francisquare> decci, then sudo apt-get update
[12:57] <_1_Micky152> hi
[12:57] <Pici> _1_Micky152: yes, hello.
[12:57] <atrius> anyone have an issue where if you have a largish number of firefox tabs (or sometimes not that many) open then various other apps flicker and act oddly when you open them? examples would be anything steam related or chrome.
[12:58] <decci> francisquare: apt-get install deb.torproject.org-keyring dint resolved it
[12:58] <TJ-> francisquare: What was the "install..." command supposed to achieve?
[12:59] <decci> francisquare: It said dint find any package deb.torproject.org-keyring
[12:59] <decci> TJ-: Trying your way
[12:59] <TJ-> atrius: That is usually caused by firefox's various tabs using up the GPUs available texture memory so other (OpenGL) applications are starved
[12:59] <decci> TJ-: nothing under partial
[13:00] <TJ-> decci: OK... bear with me while I check here; I've dealt with this several times in the past
[13:00] <atrius> TJ-: that's what i was thinking too.. but the system has a 2GB video card in it now.. so surely not? at least one hopes
[13:01] <decci> TJ-: okay
[13:01] <TJ-> decci: firstly, is your system behind a proxy?
[13:01] <decci> TJ-: Yes
[13:01] <decci> TJ-: I have ran sudo apt-get -o Acquire::http::proxy="http://proxy_ip:proxy_port/" update
[13:02] <TJ-> atrius: Hmmm, I'd agree it is far-fetched, but do those other applications behave if Firefox is closed? Maybe there's a memory leak over time - how long is the uptime with Firefox running?
[13:02] <decci> TJ-: For every apt-get command I am running providing proxy in the manner
[13:02] <atrius> TJ-: a while, so could be that. and yes, a pkill against firefox and all is well. i can then immediately restart firefox and both apps behave
[13:03] <dyj> aaaaa
[13:03] <TJ-> atrius: Yes, that sounds like what I've seen with some Firefox beta/nightly builds at times
[13:03] <dyj> what is this
[13:04] <TJ-> decci: I think the proxy is returning invalid data which apt doesn't realise is bad. We see this most with WiFi captive portals that require authentication before allowing Internet access
[13:04] <atrius> TJ-: lovely.. so basically the solution is "switch from firefox"?
[13:05] <TJ-> atrius: I'm not sure if it is Firefox or the underlying OpenGL drivers, or a combination.
[13:16] <pradeesh> Is it possible to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 without data lose
[13:16] <ikonia> sure
[13:17] <daftykins> 100% guaranteed with your backup at your side
[13:20] <atrius> TJ-: do you know of a way off hand to find out what the texture memory usage is?
[13:20] <knob> 23obvious32
[13:21] <TJ-> atrius: I recall recently using some util that reported overall usage of Nvidia GPUs
[13:22] <pradeesh> do already installed applications remain after upgrade
[13:23] <atrius> TJ-: i'll have to look around for something for ATI
[13:26] <TJ-> atrius: see https://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/ATI/meminfo.txt
[13:26] <atrius> TJ-: thanks :)
[13:27] <TJ-> atrius: There appears to be a Python binding for it in python{,3}-opengl
[13:30] <BananaManLinux> who was it who asked for a pic of my bios?
[13:30] <caerdwyn> Just out of curiosity, does anyone know anyone know why the battery icon shows up as a red error symbol now on boot? I'm assuming it's missing a file?
[13:30] <caerdwyn> It looks like this now: http://i.imgur.com/lUlE7xi.png
[13:31] <BananaManLinux> you broke it
[13:31] <BananaManLinux> :p
[13:31] <caerdwyn> I reinstalled ubuntu-mono to see if it would replace any missing icon files, but it's still doing this...
[13:32] <BananaManLinux> http://i.minus.com/i7anI1BGrt00f.jpg anyone know why it's there? I don't have ubuntu installed or grub, only windows 7 and it's still there :/
[13:32] <scofieldpeng> hello everyone, i install the ubuntu and want to use the tty mode,but when i click the ctrl+alt+f1,what i get is just a blurred screen ,what should i do?(the chip of my laptop is sis968,i know it's very old...)
[13:33] <daftykins> ugh SiS
[13:33] <daftykins> scofieldpeng: you tried F2 through F6 also?
[13:33] <scofieldpeng> yeah
[13:34] <daftykins> by blurred do you mean you still see the login prompt?
[13:34] <scofieldpeng> nothing...
[13:34] <scofieldpeng> i can't see any text messages
[13:34] <TJ-> BananaManLinux: Has Ubuntu been previously tested on that motherboard?
[13:35] <BananaManLinux> yeah
[13:35] <daftykins> scofieldpeng: what's blurry if you see nothing then? :)
[13:35] <scofieldpeng> i guess the problem is the sis driver...but how to fix it?
[13:35] <daftykins> !nomodeset | scofieldpeng
[13:35] <daftykins> give that a try ^
[13:35] <scofieldpeng> ok,tks:)
[13:39] <caerdwyn> BananaManLinux: any idea?
[13:39] <caerdwyn> ideas*
[13:39] <BananaManLinux> yeah, give it me. :p
[13:39] <caerdwyn> ..what?
[13:40] <BananaManLinux> im new to ubuntu, sorry.
[13:40] <caerdwyn> Oh ok, thanks anyway :P
[13:44] <mexi_d3_> Pricey, it's not just a privacy issue . Knowing the preferred networks makes it easier to setup a fake network. Or more correctly, security and privacy are linked.
[13:47] <jaymit> hy all hey i m new
[13:49] <scofieldpeng> still can not work... i change the grub file and reboot the laptop,use the tty mode just get a blurred sceen...
[13:49] <jaymit> hey i want to know how to hack to other webcam
[13:50] <croftworth> lol
[13:50] <OerHeks> !hacking | jaymit
[13:50] <jaymit> can anyone tell me how to hap adressck a webcam using i
[13:51] <Pici> jaymit: That isn't on-topic for this, or any other Ubuntu channels.
[13:51] <scofieldpeng>  still can not work... i change the grub file and reboot the laptop,use the tty mode just get a blurred sceen...
[13:51] <jaymit> then where should i go for hacking
[13:52] <Pici> jaymit: nowhere around here.
[13:52] <hateball> !ot | jaymit
[13:52] <jaymit> :-(
[13:52] <Pici> hateball: #ubuntu-offtopic isn't the place either.
[13:52] <hateball> Pici: well it may know places to redirect to
[13:52] <hateball> It's the best I could come up with
[13:53] <jaymit> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:54] <AlHafoudh> is it possible that machine that got dhcp from dnsmasq to register machine's hostname in dnsmasq as dns entry?
[13:56] <Exoide> Hi there I'm new to Ubuntu, I've the version 14.04 and I'm trying to install the GO language but it doesn't appear in the "Ubuntu Software Center". How I can install it?
[13:57] <somsip> !golang | Exoide
[13:57] <somsip> !go-lang | Exoide
[13:57] <somsip> !info golang
[13:57] <somsip> Exoide: got it in the end - try searching for golang
[13:58] <TJ-> AlHafoudh: I think you're asking for "Dynamic DNS" - unless something changed recently, I'm not aware that dnsmasq can do that
[13:59] <daftykins> scofieldpeng: i'm out of ideas then i'm afraid, if that didn't work - it's probably that hardwares age that's a problem
[13:59] <Exoide> somsip: sorry but I don't understand what do you mean with !go-lang and !info golang. Where do I've to type that?
[13:59] <daftykins> scofieldpeng: i still don't understand how you can claim it is blurred if nothing is there :D
[13:59] <somsip> Exoide: search for golang in SOftware Centre, or install it from command line with sudo apt-get install golang
[13:59] <Pici> Exoide: The package name is golang, those were triggers for ubottu.
[14:00] <scofieldpeng> anybody can help?
[14:01] <Mantissa> !ask | scofieldpeng
[14:01] <daftykins> Mantissa: it already has been asked.
[14:01] <daftykins> Mantissa: don't use bot triggers unnecessarly
[14:02] <scofieldpeng> ok,very sorry,it's my first time to use irc
[14:03] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: When you say "blurred" do you mean the screen is entirely black, or that there are some random coloured pixels with no discernible pattern?
[14:03] <scofieldpeng> rand colored pixels
[14:04] <scofieldpeng> random colored pixels
[14:04] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: haha! OK ... that helps us much more...
[14:04] <daftykins> progress!
[14:04] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: ... that tells us that when the X server display driver switches to terminal mode, it doesn't correctly switch to a text mode on the graphics card
[14:04] <scofieldpeng> i change the grub the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset",still can not work
[14:04] <daftykins> bug 1270656
[14:05] <scofieldpeng> my version is 12.04lts
[14:05] <daftykins> ah.
[14:05] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: Are you able to run an X terminal from the GUI? Usually the hot-key shortcut is Alt+Ctl+T
[14:05] <daftykins> over to TJ- then \o/
[14:05]  * TJ- grrr's @ daftykins 
[14:06] <Exoide> somsip: When I type "sudo apt-get install golang" I get the following message "E: Unable to locate package golang"
[14:06] <scofieldpeng> yeah,
[14:06] <daftykins> TJ-: <3
[14:06] <scofieldpeng> just get the blurred screen in the tty mode
[14:06] <somsip> Exoide: what version of ubuntu?
[14:06] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: OK, do that and then do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[14:07] <scofieldpeng> ok,let me try
[14:07] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: Once you've installed pastebinit, we can use it to collect information easily. So next, do "lscpi -nnk | pastebinit" and then tell us the *URL* that pastebinit gives you
[14:07] <Exoide> 14.04
[14:07] <Exoide> somsip: 14.04
[14:08] <scofieldpeng> it show me this software has been installed
[14:08] <somsip> Exoide: just tested here and golang was quite happy to be installed on 14.04
[14:08] <OerHeks> Exoide, make sure you enabled Univers repo
[14:09] <somsip> OerHeks: ah - fair enough. I didn't notice it was outside the main repos
[14:09] <TJ-> Exoide: You'll need to enable the "Universe" repository
[14:09] <Exoide> somsip: I'm behind a webproxy do I've to configure Apt to use it?
[14:09] <somsip> Exoide: TJ and OerHeks have your solution by the look of it
[14:09] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: if it's installed you're OK to run the command I showed you next:
[14:09]  * OerHeks loves the 'origin' function in nautilus
[14:09] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: ...  "lscpi -nnk | pastebinit" and then tell us the *URL* that pastebinit gives you
[14:10] <Exoide> TJ-: How can I do that? Sorry but I'm newbie in the Linux environment :(
[14:11] <scofieldpeng> he show me do not find the lscpi order....
[14:12] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: Hmmm... the "... | ..." is the vertical-bar symbol .... did you maybe think it was a lower-case L  or an upper-case i ?
[14:13] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: If you're using IRC from the same PC, you can simply copy and paste the commands I type that are inside the "   "
[14:13] <scofieldpeng> of course not, i click the symbol |,but it tell me that he don't find the lscpi order...
[14:14] <Exoide> OerHeks: How can I do that? Sorry but I'm newbie in the Linux environment :(
[14:15] <OerHeks> Exoide, open softwarecenter > top panel > edit > sources, and on that first tab select Universe
[14:16] <OerHeks> Exoide, and discover all the tabs in that menu
[14:16] <scofieldpeng> when i use the sudo apt-get install pastebinit,he tell me it exist,but when i use the order sudo apt-get install pastebinit,what i get is just this...can't find the lscpi order
[14:18] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: Ahhh... sorry, you're misunderstanding I think. If "pastebinit" is installed as it says, all you need now is "lspci -nnk | pastebinit" and that will cause 'lspci' to send its command output to 'pastebinit' which will post it to the Internet, and give you the web-site URL where the information has been posted
[14:18] <scofieldpeng> 未找到 'lscip' 命令，您要输入的是否是：
[14:18] <scofieldpeng>  命令 'lscp' 来自于包 'nilfs-tools' (universe)
[14:18] <scofieldpeng> lscip：未找到命令
[14:18] <scofieldpeng> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[14:19] <daftykins> you typo'd "lspci"
[14:19] <scofieldpeng> as you can see,this is the reply
[14:20] <OerHeks> just a typo lscpi > lspci
[14:20] <scofieldpeng> i change the symbol,get the same result
[14:21] <whoever> hi all, I have a glaxys s5 in download mode. ubuntu does not see it. are there drivers to install for it
[14:21] <scofieldpeng> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7536871/
[14:21] <scofieldpeng> here
[14:21] <cfhowlett> whoever which version of ubuntu?
[14:21] <scofieldpeng> my type error-_-||
[14:21] <whoever> cfhowlett: 14.04
[14:22] <cfhowlett> whoever is phone in camera or USB device mode?
[14:22] <REK_007> whoever, can you give the lsusb output after connecting your mobile
[14:22] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: OK, that's great. That shows is there's no kernel driver for the SiS VGA display adapter.
[14:22] <REK_007> cfhowlett, he said in download mode ... :P
[14:22] <scofieldpeng> it's mean that i can't solve my problem?
[14:23] <whoever> cfhowlett: it is in download mode
[14:23] <cfhowlett> REK_007 seems you have better experience with his issue than I - still on 12.04.  for that version, I had to do some MTP work, but this was *supposed* to be fixed with 14.04
[14:23] <TJ-> scofieldpeng: Give us a few minutes to research it; that SiS device was never well-supported by SiS in terms of open-source drivers
[14:24] <scofieldpeng> ok,tks anyway:-)
[14:24] <REK_007> cfhowlett, yeah i know where you are coming from hence mentioned the Download mode :) cheers , and yeah MTP on 12.04 was a pain really
[14:24] <whoever> REK_007: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7536896/
[14:25] <REK_007> and cfhowlett 14.04 supports MTP out of the box :) I have used it pretty good support ...not to worry about that
[14:25] <REK_007> whoever, your phone is recognized by the PC it seems , what are you trying to run heimdall ? or fastboot?
[14:26] <TJ-> scofieldpeng (who quit) if anyone see's that user back, point them to http://askubuntu.com/questions/204380/how-to-enable-3d-acceleration-with-sis-vga-771-671-on-ubuntu-12-04
[14:26] <daftykins> what relevance will 3D accel have to TTYs?
[14:29] <whoever> REK_007: i read that heimdall does not work for the s5 even though you can  perform a read , so i am try to pass it to a vm of windows
[14:30] <jost> What is a secure way to handle password entry on remote systems (via SSH)? I want to do a lengthy operation (~20-30 bash lines) on a remote machine, by feeding the bash script to SSH. The operations on the remote machine require passwords (sudo and mysql commands), and I don't want to disable these passwords. How can I securely enter them, while only having to enter  them once per run, and not storing them somewhere on the remote machine?
[14:30] <TJ-> daftykins: The upshot is the device doesn't support standard VESA modes but the driver tells it to switch to one, which results in garbled screen.
[14:30] <REK_007> ohh darn hard luck I havent tried heimdall for S5 , I had used it on my SGS, anyway if you are running VM then you might want to install the windows driver of the bootloader onto that VM and check the USB settings in the VM :) hope this helps
[14:31] <REK_007> ohh darn hard luck I havent tried heimdall for S5 , I had used it on my SGS, anyway if you are running VM then you might want to install the windows driver of the bootloader onto that VM and check the USB settings in the VM :) hope this helps ,whoever
[14:31] <TJ-> jost: "sssh -tt 'sudo command'
[14:31] <module000> jost: many ways to do it...the insecure way would be to store them in variables in the script(which would be seen in .history). a secure way would be to use kerberos and kereberize your sudo/mysql on the remote. then the tokens would pass along with your original ssh session to the remote machine
[14:31] <whoever> REK_007: ya, but, it looks like windows doesn't even see it as an unknown usb device (checking right now)
[14:31] <TJ-> jost: typo! "ssh -tt 'sudo command' "
[14:32] <martinklepsch> how can I avoid apt-get asking for confirmation when installing a package?
[14:32] <module000> martinklepsch: with -y or --yes
[14:33] <jost> module000: ok, but I suppose shredding my .history on each logout should help there?
[14:33] <module000> jost: yes...but that's a very hacky solution. what if your connection was interupted?
[14:33] <REK_007> whoever, then it seems that windows doesnt have the driver , but just for precaution http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/UDEV try this , just to eliminate any permission issues
[14:34] <jost> module000: would they still be saved in the history if they are read using "read -s -p "Enter password: " MY_PASSWORD"?
[14:34] <module000> jost: they shouldn't be. verify that first though
[14:34] <ODB> Hi guys
[14:35] <TJ-> jost: If you use ssh's '-tt' pseudo-tty allocation the password is entered securely on the local host
[14:35] <user258467> Hi, i need to run this command deb http://nightly.openerp.com/7.0/deb/ ./ how do I do deb is not found?
[14:36] <jost> TJ-: ok - thats what I tried, and the password was visible on my screen... Tried it using a grunt plugin though, so that might be the reason for that
[14:36] <REK_007> hey guys am facing a slight problem with my keyboad LEDs on my Thinkpad T61,the capslock,numlock seem to be working fine but the LEDs dont light up..any pointers ?
[14:37] <TJ-> jost: Yes, that's not a very secure design in grunt then
[14:38] <cfhowlett> user258467 contact the package maintainer.  they're responsible.   not an ubuntu issue.
[14:39] <cfhowlett> user258467 or run the alternate deb command as listed on the nightly.openerp.com   page
[14:39] <ODB2> Hey
[14:40] <user258467> cfhowlett, which deb returns nothing even the other command won't work
[14:41] <cfhowlett> user258467 then you're best contacting the package maintainer.  sounds like they have work to do.
[14:41] <user258467> cfhowlett, my fault in need to add it to sources.list
[14:41] <cfhowlett> user258467 :)  no worries
[14:42] <user258467> cfhowlett, I am one ubuntu only for the relasing of the breezu badger :)
[14:42] <cfhowlett> user258467 ????? you're using badger?  no longer supported and WAAAAAAAAY past end of life.
[14:43] <whoever> REK_007: just to give you a heads up ... rebooting
[14:43] <user258467> cfhowlett, sorry I would say I am using ubuntu since the release of breezy badger
[14:45] <cfhowlett> user258467 understood.
[14:52] <Imdsm> I have added nameservers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail, but when resolv.conf is created, something is still putting nameserver 127.0.0.1 into the file
[14:52] <Imdsm> is there a way I can stop this being added? (14.04 LTS)
[14:53] <wheatthin> I think you change the resolv now via network manager configs
[14:53] <whoever\> hi REK_007  since the restart I still can not pass the usb device to the vm
[14:54] <Imdsm> wheatthin: tried that, but it decided to ignore my changes, even when I set it to Auto (DHCP) addresses only
[14:54] <REK_007> whoever\, currently I dont have a VM setup to test and let you know , Sorry wait and ask someone else , if they might be able to help else you can go upto XDA and try your luck :)
[14:54] <whoever\> REK_007: can you post the pastebin that i posted, I am not use the output of lsusb changed at all
[14:55] <whoever\> REK_007: ya, xda will be alote of help there , they'll say do it nativly
[14:58] <REK_007> whoever\, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7536896/ here you go , you might explain them the issue, am sure someone or the other will help you eventually its not that uncommon to use vm for a particular task
[14:59] <newshound> hey this might not be the place to post this query but
[14:59] <newshound> can any of you recall a command to search for a specific keyword in the irc channel list?
[15:00] <newshound> "/msg alias" something something
[15:02] <zappo_> ciao a tutti, dopo aver installato ubuntu 14&04 la tastiera non digita alcuni caratteri tipo la chiocciola e la barra. Inoltre il dvd non viene visto dal sistema
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !it|zappo_
[15:03] <croftworth> what?
[15:03] <newshound> nvm got it thx.
[15:05] <Imdsm> wheatthin: managed it by disabling dnsmasq
[15:15] <jost> When I do this: "ssh -tt user@host 'read -s -p "Enter pw" FOO; echo $FOO'", everything works as expected. But when I pipe the command in, it  fails (pressing enter to send input does not work, as well as Ctrl+D): echo 'read -s -p "Enter pw" FOO; echo $FOO' | ssh -tt user@host
[15:15] <jost> Why?
[15:16] <jost> echo 'read -s -p "Enter pw" FOO; echo $FOO' | ssh -tt user@host '/bin/bash -s' does not work
[15:16] <jost> also
[15:17] <Exoide> OerHeks: I've installed successfully the GO languaje. I had to check the "Canonical Partners" checkbox in the "Other Software" tab. Thank you guys for your help :)
[15:17] <jost> So my question is: How do I execute a local script on a remote machine, when  the script asks for user input?
[15:18] <OerHeks> Exoide, have fun
[15:18] <mitch-_> with 14.04... when i plug my phoen in.... it auto-locks to the launcher... .how do i stop that?
[15:21] <TJ-> jost:  "  cat script.sh | ssh -tt me@myserver /bin/bash  "
[15:21] <jost> ok, got it, the solution is here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/100652/bash-interactive-remote-prompt
[15:23] <jost> TJ-: that has the same problem, which supposedly is that the script is read from stdin by bash - so stdin is no longer available for input
[15:23] <TJ-> jost: I've used that method in the past to do similar things; let me see if I can find my scripts
[15:23] <jost> TJ-: There's no need to - the above solution from stackexchange works
[15:25] <jchaike> i have no network access on my ubuntu, and my video drivers are messed up, is there a way to revert it back to the Xorg drivers as default or something so I can at least boot my ubuntu even if it was in like 800x600 mode (graphics failsafe does not work either)
[15:27] <dimde> Hey. Installation-iussue here. I want a dual-bootable Ubuntu/Windows-pc at the end of the day. Currently using ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso, Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.2, Win 8.1pro. When I boot from my stick, the running windows is not detected. My mainboard is MSI H87M-G43. I tried the steps here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI . I guess don't quite understand step 2 ("In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart R
[15:30] <dimde> And one additional question for later: I have a running ubuntu on another machine. Am I right to assume, that I can just overwrite the home folder of my newly installed ubtuntu with the existing one?
[15:36] <milehigh> How can I install 13.10 Desktop onto a RAID1. there is no RAID option during manual partitioning...
[15:37] <TJ-> milehigh: open a terminal shell, configure the disk, then continue in the installer by letting it re-read the disk config
[15:38] <milehigh> Really? Why wouldn't the installer support mdRAID?
[15:38] <milehigh> that seems horribly broken
[15:42] <tgm4883> !quantal
[15:43] <daftykins> tgm4883: yep it's dead
[15:43] <tgm4883> daftykins: yea, that's what I'm trying to figure out, since it got changed back to supported on launchpad
[15:43] <trndr> daftykins, dead???
[15:43] <tgm4883> daftykins: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal
[15:44] <trndr> daftykins, sorry, nvm
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> trndr  aka !eol
[15:44] <matjaz_> 14.04: if I change the right/bottom_width in Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml, I don't see any change. This worked in 12.04. How to change widths in 14.04?
[15:50] <napcae> 14.04 lts logo on the left bottom corner on my desktop?
[15:51] <napcae> how can I remove the 14.04 lts logo on the left bottom corner of my desktop. sry first part dissappeared
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> napcae  show us a screenshot to show what you mean
[15:56] <whoever\> how can i get ram informtion ie manufacture, make and clock? ls show listing the manufacurer as manufacurer03  but I was looking for an actual name
[15:58] <napcae> MonkeyDust: http://imgur.com/lO4EKIE
[15:59] <dawnk> lxlock doesn't work in lubuntu 14.04. How do I fix it?
[16:00] <TJ-> whoever\: see "man dmidecode"
[16:00] <Pici> napcae: are you sure that isn't part of the wallpaper?
[16:01] <frame45> whoever\ lshw  give you anything?
[16:01] <whoever\> TJ-: that still list Mansfacurer as Manufacture03
[16:01] <napcae> ehrm yes
[16:01] <tgm4883> daftykins: official answer is temp marked as supported in LP due to a kernel release, but still not supported, and will be marked obsolete again soon
[16:01] <whoever\> frame45: that still list Mansfacurer as Manufacture03
[16:02] <daftykins> tgm4883: thanks for the heads up!
[16:02] <whoever\> and am sure it is Kingston=
[16:02] <napcae> okay strange, after I changed the bg and switched to it back, the logo is gone
[16:03] <napcae> could be a bug. I'm using i3 and after exiting i3wm and reopening it the logo appears
[16:03] <napcae> maybe the login manager does it?
[16:05] <Praxi> so its been a few days since I last tried this, figured I would set it down and start over.  When a ubuntu server 12.04 is already running, I have a need to have a hard drive inserted into a dock, and the hard drive auto mounted to a given directory.  What is the best way to go about this?  Most of my googles have been turning up old information that isn't very pertinent.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Praxi: you can use an entry in /etc/fstab to make the filesystem mount where you desire each time
[16:05] <ikonia> Praxi: debus will normally auto mount hot plug devices like usb
[16:05] <ikonia> Praxi: if it's a static device you can enter it into fstab
[16:05] <Player_> This isn't exactly Ubuntu specific, but does anyone have any resources that have useful information in regards to the bash/sh syntax?
[16:05] <Praxi> ActionParsnip, from my understanding fstab is only for boot isn't it?
[16:06] <Praxi> these drives are being hot plugged
[16:06] <ikonia> Praxi: there is plenty of bash guides on the web
[16:06] <Pici> Player_: The topic in #bash has a lot of helpful links
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Player_: #bash is useful here :)
[16:06] <Praxi> ikonia its not a usb is part of the problem
[16:06] <ikonia> Praxi: in what way ?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Praxi: you can put any file system you like in fstab, including NFS, Samba and so forth
[16:06] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I copy a directory from one remote server to another remote server? (I can connect to both with different ssh access)
[16:06] <Player_> Pici, ActionParsnip, oh sorry.  Thanks.  Still a bit new to IRC.
[16:06] <ikonia> mojtaba: scp -r or rsync
[16:06] <napcae> mojtaba: rsync sftp scp
[16:07] <mojtaba> ikonia: I guess rsync is better.
[16:07] <ikonia> mojtaba: scp -r works fine
[16:07] <mojtaba> napcae: which one is better?
[16:07] <pression> excume, ubuntu 14.10 or 15.04 will work in any pc old or new? like for example surface pro 3, i am speaking about ubuntu with unity 8 mir and qt
[16:07] <Praxi> ActionParsnip if I boot up with the drive in fstab, that works, but if I insert the drive after boot, fstab doesn't work
[16:07] <mojtaba> ikonia: you suggest scp
[16:07] <TJ-> Praxi: two parts: 1) an entry in "/etc/fstab" and 2) a custom rule in "/etc/udev/rules.d" that runs "mount -a" when the disk is added
[16:07] <ikonia> mojtaba: I suggest whatever you are happy with
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Praxi: fstab will be consulted when you shove in the device
[16:08] <whoever\> fikst: the ram should report has kingston hyperx g2
[16:08] <mojtaba> ikonia: what is the difference between rsync and scp?
[16:08] <Jeffrey_f> Kind of off topic: Anyone know of a FREE MySQL host which allows external access?
[16:08] <ikonia> mojtaba: two different methods
[16:08] <whoever\> frame45: the ram should report has kingston hyperx g2
[16:08] <ikonia> Jeffrey_f: nothing to do with this channel
[16:09] <mojtaba> ikonia: could you please give me an example of copying dir1 from host1 to host2.
[16:09] <Praxi> TJ- I tried following a few tutorials on udev, but I never got them to work with the device using UUID, is there a better way?
[16:09] <mojtaba> ikonia: I know rsync is like rsync source dest
[16:09] <ikonia> mojtaba: it's very basic, I'd suggest  you learn this as if you can't do this without copy/paste of the commands you'll probably not be able to trust the content integrity
[16:09] <frame45> whoever\ my RAM is Corsair but it only shows as. "product: CMSO4GX3M1A1333C9
[16:09] <frame45>              vendor: AMI"
[16:09] <Praxi> Related to this question, I posted on askubuntu;  http://askubuntu.com/questions/466480/trying-to-create-udev-rule-to-mount-removable-drive-exfat-partition
[16:09] <mojtaba> ikonia: But I am not sure how can I use two different ssh.
[16:10] <ikonia> mojtaba: two different ssh?
[16:10] <mojtaba> ikonia: yes, the hosts have different user and domain.
[16:10] <ikonia> mojtaba: that's fine, scp is just like ssh user@host
[16:10] <mojtaba> ikonia: I have created private and public key and I can use ssh for both without password.
[16:11] <ikonia> mojtaba: so ?
[16:11] <TJ-> Praxi: something like "ACTION="add" SUBSYSTEM="block"  DEVTYPE="partition" RUN+="mount -a"   "
[16:11] <Pici> mojtaba: what have you tried, and are you getting an error?
[16:11] <mojtaba> ikonia: I guess I must find some examples of scp. Thank you for your suggestion
[16:12] <ikonia> mojtaba: I don't understand what example you need ?
[16:12] <ikonia> the command is scp -r
[16:12] <ikonia> I've already given it
[16:13] <mojtaba> Thanks, I find it. it is like scp user@10.3.0.1:/path/to/file user@10.3.0.2/path/to/file
[16:13] <mojtaba> If someone else is interested too.
[16:13] <TJ-> Praxi: You might be better off using "man 8 udisks" though
[16:13] <pression> excuse me, ubuntu 14.10 or 15.04 will work in any pc old or new? like for example surface pro 3, i am speaking about ubuntu with unity 8 mir and qt
[16:13] <ikonia> pression: 14.10 and 15.04 don't exist
[16:14] <Player_> Minor (but not major) issue in Ubuntu 14.04, the tty promps and start up splash screen work great on my panel's native resolution (1680x1050) until I install my card's drivers (fglrx installer from amd's website, card is Radeon HD 6670).
[16:14] <OerHeks> pression, too early for that but here is a howto for 14.04 , unofficial > http://www.geek.com/microsoft/linux-users-rejoice-heres-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-3-1594864/
[16:14] <Player_> Don't think it's an issue with Ubuntu, but can't hurt to ask.
[16:15] <bencc> can I run GUI apps like Firefox on ubuntu server? what will be the screen resolution in this case?
[16:15] <ikonia> Player_: I don't see what you're actually asking
[16:16] <Pici> bencc: ubuntu server does not come with an xserver installed.  You will not be able to run any gui programs.
[16:16] <bencc> Pici: can I install xserver on it?
[16:16] <ikonia> it comes with all the desktop utilities to make life easy then
[16:16] <ikonia> why not use the desktop install then ?
[16:18] <Player_> ikonia: The Ubuntu splash screen and tty promps are unproportionately stretched when I'm using fglrx, whereas with Mesa it works just fine on my monitor's proper resolution.
[16:18] <ikonia> Player_: so it sounds like the framebuffer just needs the display resolution passed to it at boot time, or your drivers may not support the right resolution in the framebuffer
[16:19] <Pici> bencc: You can... but most servers do not have any graphical environment.
[16:20] <Player_> ikonia: Yeah, not sure if I can enforce #1 or not.. and considering we're talking about AMD it's probably #2.
[16:20] <bencc> Pici:  https://library.linode.com/remote-desktops/vnc-desktop-ubuntu-12.04
[16:20] <bencc> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-setup-vnc-for-ubuntu-12
[16:20] <ikonia> Player_: you should be able to pass the argument vga (old option, may still be valid or moved to something new)
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> bencc: if you wanted a desktop OS, why didn't you install the desktop ISO?
[16:21] <bencc> ActionParsnip: let's say I installed a desktop ISO on a VPS. what will be the screen resolution?
[16:21] <bencc> can I capture the desktop with ffmpeg?
[16:21] <Player_> ikonia: Where, in the GRUB menu with the kernel launch arguments or do I modify the configuration manually?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> bencc: not sure, depends on the VPS hardware given for graphics
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> bencc: what are you wanting to do via VNC on the server?
[16:22] <rahuL__> bencc, you can capture, using RDP and ffmpeg
[16:22] <bencc> ActionParsnip: VNC was just a test. I want to run Firefox and use ffmpeg to record a session
[16:22] <compdoc> bencc, I install ubuntu server, and then the Mate desktop
[16:22] <TJ-> bencc: You're probably better off using "ssh -X" to enable X11 forwarding to your local system
[16:22] <rahuL__> you can use tight vnc
[16:23] <bencc> TJ-: I don't use ssh. I want to record on the server with a script
[16:23] <bencc> automatically
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> bencc: you can record your own desktop, some desktop recoirders allow you to record a section of the screen..... does that not fit the bill?
[16:23] <bencc> I need to start the server automatically and record a GUI app like FF
[16:25] <TJ-> bencc: so you want a headless x server, and possibly a pulseaudio dummy-snd audio output
[16:25] <Praxi>  
[16:28] <AlHafoudh> TJ-: actually I found out that dnsmasq does that by default
[16:29] <TJ-> AlHafoudh: you mean for addresses its DHCP side gives out?
[16:29] <AlHafoudh> TJ-: yes! :)
[16:30] <AlHafoudh> TJ-: I am trying to use it with server deployment
[16:30] <TJ-> AlHafoudh: Ahhh, I understood you to mean you wanted the local dnsmasw on the client PC to do a dynamic-dns update to a *remote* dns server
[16:30] <AlHafoudh> not to remote, but to itself
[16:31] <pression> excuse me, ubuntu 14.10 or 15.04 in the FUTURE will work in any pc old or new? like for example surface pro 3, i am speaking about ubuntu with unity 8 mir and qt
[16:31] <Pici> pression: We don't know yet.
[16:31] <TJ-> AlHafoudh: NetworkManager uses a private instance of dnsmaq on clients to provide dns proxying, but that can't doa d-dns update to a remote DHCP/DNS server. That's what I read your original question as meaning
[16:31] <Pici> pression: It isn't far enough into the development of 14.10 to say anything about hardware compatibility.
[16:34] <pression> it is only, i haven't got computer right now, i am in a cyber cafed
[16:35] <pression> and i want to buy a surface pro 3
[16:35] <pression> and idk if ubuntu with mir in the future will be compatible
[16:35] <ikonia> then don't bank on non-existant products
[16:35] <pression> cuz i want buy ubuntu phone meizu
[16:37] <matjaz_> 14.04: if I change the right/bottom_width in Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml, I don't see any change. This worked in 12.04. How to change widths in 14.04?
[16:37] <citrix> kaha ho
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> matjaz_: if you log off and on, is it ok?
[16:38] <matjaz_> actionparsnip: no, nothing helps
[16:39] <mojtaba> Hi, I am going to use scp two copy files from one remote server to another, but the problem is that, in manual it says: "scp follows symbolic links encountered in the tree traversal." Do you know how can I prevent this behaviour?
[16:41] <causasui> can I safely remove old kernel modules from /lib/modules ?
[16:41] <ikonia> causasui: if you remove the packages that installed them, it should take them away
[16:41] <ikonia> causasui: manually removing them can cause problems
[16:41] <causasui> ikonia: how can I determine which packages to remove?
[16:42] <ikonia> causasui: what exactly do you want to remove ?
[16:42] <mojtaba> ikonia: Do you know what should I do?
[16:42] <ikonia> mojtaba: about what ?
[16:42] <mojtaba> ikonia:  in manual it says: "scp follows symbolic links encountered in the tree traversal." Do you know how can I prevent this behaviour?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  man scp says something about symbolic links
[16:42] <ikonia> mojtaba: don't use scp
[16:42] <ikonia> mojtaba: it's supposed to copy symlink targets, that's the point of symlinks
[16:43] <vilambit_> I have a macbook pro with nvidia gpu.  If I use te nouveau driver I can suspend but the screen freezes when I resume.  anyone know how to fix this problem?
[16:43] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: I find this in man scp.
[16:43] <causasui> ikonia: there are many old kernel versions listed in here. together they are consuming ~2gb of disk space. i don't have much disk space in this vm.
[16:44] <ikonia> causasui: open the package manager, remove the kernel packages that match those versions
[16:44] <mojtaba> ikonia: It means it will copy the content of that link too?
[16:44] <ikonia> mojtaba: correct
[16:44] <causasui> mojtaba: it says more in the manpage, keep reading
[16:44] <causasui> also, use rsync afaik
[16:45] <causasui> i.e. rsync '-l' option is probably want you want
[16:46] <bencc> when installing a server in vbox, do I nned LVM?
[16:46] <bencc> not sure what is it
[16:46] <ikonia> bencc: no
[16:46] <bencc> thanks
[16:47] <frame45> what's the ubuntu equiv to chkconfig ??
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> frame45  what's chkconfig?
[16:49] <frame45> auto start/stop services tool for RPM based (CentOS/RedHat)
[16:50] <frame45> example: chkconfig iptables on = the Firewall starts on boot (CentOS)
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> frame45  for that one particularly, you can use   sudo ufw enable
[16:51] <willwh> frame45: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto\
[16:51] <willwh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[16:51] <mojtaba> causasui: thanks
[16:53] <frame45> MonkeyDust: thats what I was looking for Thanks! Just stinks that it's not a simpler command, hope systemd fixes this :)
[16:53] <TomyWork> !aptitude
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> frame45  not sure how much more simple than 2 words a command can be, but i'm glad you're helped
[16:55] <DesignerX> hi
[16:55] <TomyWork> is aptitude deprecated?
[16:55] <DesignerX> how can I list all available Network Enterfaces ?
[16:56] <pakcjo> Hello, I have an ubuntu server 10.04.3 (lucid?) I would like to upgrade it to latest stable, could someone please point me to a guide or steps to do this?
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> DesignerX  try ifconfig
[16:56] <TomyWork> pakcjo there's no direct upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 yet. you'll have to wait at 12.04 until that becomes available
[16:56] <DesignerX> TomyWork: I think so.. use apt-get instead ?
[16:57] <TomyWork> DesignerX but that has no TUI
[16:57] <llutz> TomyWork: feel free to use aptitude, you just need to manually install it
[16:57] <TomyWork> sure, no problem
[16:57] <pakcjo> TomyWork: so I can upgrade to 12.04 then?
[16:58] <webgen> hello guys I have an emergency, i write heroku add, it works, then i write git push heroku master as instructed and it asks me for a password, what password do I need to enter? i tried everything :S
[16:58] <TomyWork> but "deprecated" usually means more than "not installed by default"
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> pakcjo: next month when 14.04 goes to 14.04.1 you will be offered the upgrade
[16:58] <TomyWork> pakcjo yes, but it's not the latest stable :)
[16:58] <DesignerX> MonkeyDust: I tried that, but it doesnt list all networks.
[16:58] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I am using scp, I get this error: Host key verification failed. Although I can ssh to both servers. any idea?
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> i recently installed lubuntu 14.04 on a laptop and had to manualy add nm-applet to startup items, is this a known issue for lubuntu or does some other factor cause this?
[16:59] <DesignerX> I have Ubuntu server in  VM & setup 2 nework enterfaces, but it only pickes up one
[16:59] <pakcjo> TomyWork: still it's better that what I have now... Right?
[16:59] <landau> hello i set
[16:59] <pakcjo> ActionParsnip: define "offered the upgrade"?
[16:59] <TomyWork> pakcjo  sure... desktop or server?
[16:59] <pakcjo> TomyWork: server
[17:00] <TomyWork> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> pakcjo: when you run:normal upgrades a window will pop up
[17:00] <pakcjo> TomyWork: If you have link to guides that I can follow for that, I'll appreciate
[17:00] <Exogar> Hi guys, im getting 2 error messages right after logging in, they only give the options "report problem" and "close" - anyone knows where i can see whats actually going wrong there?
[17:00] <pakcjo> ActionParsnip: I don't have X here...
[17:00] <frame45> DesignerX: ifconfig -a
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: can you use other clients like nautilus or even bloated filezilla?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: what does the error say?
[17:00] <pakcjo> thanks TomyWork
[17:00] <landau> ahello i set totem to work with jack audio, but now it don`t work with regular pulseaudio...how to reset it??
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> pakcjo: ah, then when it goes to the point release run:  sudo do-release-upgrade   and you will upgrade
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> pakcjo: is Precise working ok for you?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !sound | landau
[17:01] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: The problem with filezilla is, it is just copying files from local to remote, not remote to remote.
[17:01] <pakcjo> ActionParsnip: I have lucid (or that's what it seems)
[17:01] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: But I can use it.
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> pakcjo: then you will need to upgrade to Precise first, then to trusty
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> pakcjo: cat /etc/issue      will tell you
[17:02] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: well thats my problem, it just says "An error has occured" and asks me wether to report/send it or just close
[17:02] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: well thats my problem, it just says "An error has occured" and asks me wether to report/send it or just to close
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: can you click 'details' of the error?
[17:02] <landau> the audio is working, lvc is,working and even totem works with root account, but ichanged it to works woth jack audio but it don t work anymore with pulseaudio
[17:02] <pakcjo> ActionParsnip: yes, Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS. that's why I'm asking for guides to follow, since I'm totally new to Ubuntu (with debian I have some experience)
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: maybe check your /var/log/syslog aswell for relevant issues
[17:03] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: sadly i cant, last time i sent it away it left me without further information, but give me a second, i restart and see if i get more lucly this time
[17:03] <BananaManLinux> what is the pastebin for ubuntu? i wanna copy something to show you all
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: you have this every boot? wich ubuntu version?
[17:03] <DesignerX> frame45: ty, now I see the 2nd network but it has no IP or anything. eth0( Bridged) is working but eth1 (Host Only) is not working . How to enable eth1 too ?
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> BananaManLinux: pasteubuntu
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> pakcjo: you can upgrade to Precise and the to Trusty. Personally I'd just do a clean install of Trusty
[17:04] <BananaManLinux> what one of these do i get for 64bit and 32bit 12.04? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7537835/
[17:04] <landau> how to go back to pulseaudio setting with,totem ??
[17:04] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: ok, i will check this first, maybe i find my error there :) yeah it happens every time i restart the computer, waking it up from suspend works perfectly fine, i use ubuntu 14.04 with a gnome interface
[17:05] <frame45> DesignerX: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> BananaManLinux: ubuntu-12.04.4-dvd-i386.iso = 32bit
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> BananaManLinux: ubuntu-12.04.4-dvd-amd64.iso = 64bit
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: if you try to pastebin your errors in details we can help you further here
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> BananaManLinux: why not use Trusty?
[17:05] <BananaManLinux> but it's nearly 2gb lol
[17:05] <BananaManLinux> testing m8
[17:05] <Locke2002> join #ubuntu-es
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> BananaManLinux: its a DVD ISO, so yes
[17:06] <Locke2002> woops
[17:06] <landau> can you help me??
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> BananaManLinux: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop   bit easier
[17:08] <BananaManLinux> tried 14.04 i had problems :p
[17:08] <landau> hi, hot
[17:09] <landau> hi, how to reset totem ??
[17:09] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: okay i posted the syslog since my most recent login here http://pastebin.com/1hKXqti8 but those are quite a few lines....how can i find my error in that?
[17:10] <DesignerX> frame45: ty :D  now with 2 networks, I can use the HostOnly for fast sftp/ssh  & the other network connection for local network/web access to my ubuntu server
[17:11] <KGM70> Hola
[17:11] <frame45> DesignerX: yw Nice! :)
[17:13] <c4pr1> bonsoir, j'ai installé windows sur un vieux hdd ou était précédemment installé Ubuntu, je l'ai installé quand j'avais encore deux HDD dans mon PC et la partoch de boot Windows s'est foutue sur le premier hdd que je n'ai plus et quand j'essaye de boot sur le second hdd (la ou il y a le dernier windows installé) j'ai un boot error grub rescue
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[17:13] <c4pr1> j'ai suivi le tuto http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/comment_recuperer_windows_apres_installation_ubuntu mais les différentes solutions proposées ne marchent pas, est-ce que vous auriez des idées?
[17:13] <c4pr1> oh sorry
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> ce rien
[17:13] <c4pr1> I think I was on ubuntu-fr
[17:13] <drswagginsisback> Sup sluts
[17:14] <vifino> drswagginsisback: "sluts"
[17:14] <vifino> srsly?
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: hmm cant find any strange issues on there, maybe try the recoverymode from grub?
[17:14] <Zelbinian> I would like for shockwave to not crash every hour. How can I accomplish this? :p
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: you know howto enter that?
[17:14] <daftykins> drswagginsisback: do not use that kind of language here please, keep it family friendly
[17:14] <vifino> ^^
[17:14] <Zelbinian> vifino, daftykins: Thanks for saying something
[17:14] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: sorry for a stupid one, but how can i enter recoverymode?
[17:15] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: no :D
[17:15] <vifino> Zelbinian: No problem
[17:15] <daftykins> !recovery | Exogar
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: hold down shit during boot process until you see entering grub
[17:15] <daftykins> ugh sorry forgot that factoid is old
[17:15] <daftykins> ignore that.
[17:15] <Pici> thats a lousy factoid.
[17:15] <daftykins> Pici: sure is
[17:15] <rww> !-recovery
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: you can then select ubuntu (recoverymode) and try failsafeX or fix broken packages
[17:15] <rww> !-rescue
[17:15] <rww> figures
[17:16] <daftykins> rww: who has rights to update?
[17:16] <Pici> daftykins: rww does!
[17:16] <rww> daftykins: ops, generally
[17:16] <daftykins> yeah but more than that
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Exogar: hold SHIFT at boot
[17:16] <daftykins> ok
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Pici: may as well say "got a broken system, fix it"
[17:16] <daftykins> rww: would it be good practice, on finding bad ones, to pop in #ubuntu-ops and ask for an update?
[17:16] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I know ;)
[17:16] <joe1r23> clear
[17:16] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, daftykins : thanks guys, will i need to backup anything from my pc first? Since everythings runs fine, just those annoying errors when i get logged in are a bit annoying, still not worth risking my data or something i guess
[17:17] <rww> daftykins: yep, especially if you have a suggested update
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: recoverymode wont attack your personal data
[17:17] <daftykins> rww: thanks
[17:17] <daftykins> rww: are you gonna do that one or shall i look for a replacement?
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: only new clear reinstall ubuntu would wipe your data (if you choose from setup)
[17:17] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, ActionParsnip : okay guys, thanks a lot - i will try this and see if the error disappears :) Ill let you know if you are still here
[17:18] <reece> ghi
[17:18] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: well i think it might have to do with my laptop maybe, i did reinstall ubuntu 2 or 3 times yet
[17:18] <reece> hello noobs :)
[17:18] <reece> cya
[17:18] <rww> daftykins: look for a replacement, i'm distracted
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: did you setup ubuntu with internet connection?
[17:18] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: it seemed to be fine with 14.04 release, but after a few weeks it startet again
[17:19] <vilambit_> I have a macbook pro with nvidia gpu.  If I use te nouveau driver I can suspend but the screen freezes when I resume.  anyone know how to fix this problem?
[17:19] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: for the 2nd and third time yes, but the first time i installed it i used a live-usb since my laptop has no cd-drive
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: you can install usb or cd, but its important you setup with internet connection, and install updates during install enabled
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: whats your laptop brand and graphics card?
[17:21] <e^> lotuspsychje: how important is that ? is it equivalent to updating right after installing?
[17:21] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: yeah thats what i did, i also run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" at least once a day, always hoping the error might just get away one day
[17:21] <Exogar> its an Acer Aspire V5
[17:21] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: its an Acer Aspire V5
[17:21] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: its an Acer Aspire V5
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: its important you find out what exactly freezes on your system
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: this way we can help you further
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: what was default Os on the acer?
[17:22] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: i will look up the graphic card, but im sure its a pretty basic graphic card since this is just a netbook
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: i have also acer aspire netbook, running 14.04 perfectly
[17:23] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: it came with a linux distribution, but i deinstalled it coz i wasnt familiar with it, let me look it up for you
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: maybe doublecheck if network boot is enabled in BIOS, some netbooks can freeze on ubuntu otherwise
[17:23] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: it was "Linpus"
[17:24] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: well my computer doesnt freeze or anything, but i am still a bit concerned about this
[17:25] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: will you still be here in 3 or 4 minutes? I restart my laptop quickly and look wether i can "catch" the error somehow
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: ok try
[17:25] <joe1r23> vilambit: as far as im aware this issue with frozen screen is common. There are workarounds for PC's in the BIOS but i dont think that will work on an apple device.
[17:27] <joe1r23> vilambit: Just too add this is an issue with the nouveau package itself
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: and whats it say?
[17:30] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: ok im back :) it says "System program problem detected" - do you want to report the problem now? [Cancel] [Report problem..]
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: not 'details' you can click?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: maybe report problem to see its content?
[17:31] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: and as long as i wont close it, it will pop up once and then, no there are no "details"
[17:31] <TJ-> Exogar: There was a major issue with 13.10 doing that, but I've not heard of it for 14.04
[17:32] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, I clicked "report" now, and entered my password, immediatly after "Sorry Ubuntu 14.04 experienced an internal error" pops up
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: he's on gnome shell
[17:33] <TJ-> Exogar: It's an apport thing
[17:33] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, i try to open the details, and now its loading like forever
[17:33] <gargola> Hello guys, I'm woondering if anyone has experience with the slapd package provided by ubuntu
[17:33] <gargola> wondering*
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: mostly its compiz that has crashed, but its important you find out
[17:34] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, ok its loaded up now, but i cant copy the text thats coming out of it, its some kind of tree structure
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: maybe try the 14.04 with unity, see if you got same error?
[17:34] <TJ-> Exogar: See bug #839810
[17:34] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, okay, i will try my unity environment, one second
[17:34] <Exogar> TJ- ok give me a second i will look up this bug
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: try pastebin text first :p
[17:35] <joe1r23> gargola: the standalone LDAP Deamon?
[17:36] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, the first lines say "ExecutablePath" /usr/shar/apport/apportchecksume, "ProblemType" KernelOops "Title" [Aver V5-131] suspend/resume failure
[17:36] <jrtappers> Is there an easy way to open DD disk images?
[17:37] <jrtappers> In a way that files can be opened as if the drive was directly connected
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: so its a suspend/resume issue then
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> we had some users with suspend issues on trusty
[17:38] <TJ-> jrtappers: 'dd' writes whatever you feed it, to mount an image of a file-system you can do "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/dd.img /path/to/mount/dir"
[17:38] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, and then there comes a lot of information bout my laptop, like audiodeviceinuse and stuff
[17:38] <owen1> how to tell my ubuntu no never sleep/hibernate unless i close the lid?
[17:38] <jrtappers> TJ-, Thanks, that is exactly what I am looking for
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: i would pastebin those lines once in a while in chat, maybe someone might solve it
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: also doublecheck if you have same issue on unity too
[17:39] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, ok, one second
[17:39] <owen1> i tried 'xset s off' but it still goes to sleep after a few minutes
[17:40] <gargola> sorry joe1r23, mmm yes
[17:41] <gargola> joe1r23: The thing is that I'm trying to change the default account created. I'm, doing a non interactive installation
[17:41] <DesignerX> hi, quick question: is it possible to have multiple GUI on the same OS with each having it's settings separated from the rest ?
[17:41] <Exogar> lotuspsychje: ok im back, in unity it doesnt seem to appear
[17:41] <gargola> joe1r23: But don't know how to provide the admin data once the installation finished
[17:41] <newshound> DesignerX: GUI's are usually seperated
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: strange thing, google shows alot of suspend bugs on 14.04, many suggest new kernel try
[17:42] <newshound> by a conf file or something.
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1296068
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> one example
[17:42] <TJ-> Exogar: Can you pastebin "/var/log/kern.log" ?
[17:44] <DesignerX> newshound: ok ty, I will try to run few GUI on one Ubuntu OS for testing. Just to see how they all work without having to download a full OS for each.
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> !away > Sway|away
[17:44] <DesignerX> 3:44 am, gn everyone :)
[17:44] <Exogar> TJ- ok one second, pastebin tells me that my paste was over 500kb
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> DesignerX: 18:44 here :)
[17:45] <DesignerX> 18L44 today or yesterday !
[17:45] <TJ-> Exogar: Maybe "tail -n 5000 | pastebinit" might be sufficient to see the kernel oops
[17:47] <newshound> DesignerX: do you mean Window Managers?
[17:48] <newshound> I don't think running them at the same time is advisible, or possible.
[17:48] <newshound> Ubuntu's session manager should give you the option of switching between them though.
[17:48] <SCHAAP137> maybe with multiple X server instances, if possible
[17:49] <Exogar> uhm shall i run this from the terminal?
[17:49] <TJ-> Exogar: yes
[17:50] <joe1r23> gargola: sorry never done that with SLAPD, could you do dpkg-reconfigure?
[17:50] <gargola> joe1r23: Yes, I can, but since that option is interactive won't work for me :(
[17:51] <Exogar> TJ- http://pastebin.com/15KC92it
[17:51] <gargola> joe1r23: I'm trying to figure out where that data is stored and how to change it
[17:51] <Exogar> TJ- those are the logs from this afternoon, is this enough or do you want me to copy the logs from this morning and the last 2 days aswell?
[17:51] <holstein> gargola: what data?
[17:52] <gargola> holstein: the data you provide when dpkg-reconfigure slapd is launched
[17:53] <TJ-> Exogar: I can't see any suspend/resume operations there, although there are 1-hour 'holes' before apparent complete cold restarts, without a shutdown in between
[17:54] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?
[17:54] <gargola> holstein: Or, what is my best option in order to do a non interactive installation?
[17:55] <TJ-> Exogar: I have to do dinner now, but I'd suggest creating a bug report "ubuntu-bug linux" which will create a bug report and attach required files and post them to the bug tracker on launchpad.net
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: its strange unity doesnt error on you, maybe try to play around suspend on unity?
[17:56] <holstein> gargola: not sure what you are asking for.. maybe you prefer something more manual, like a debian upstream, or linux from scratch.. there likely gets to be a point where ubuntu is just not geared toward that level of customization, and fighting it might be harder than just making your own system
[17:56] <Exogar> TJ- ok mate, thanks a lot so far
[17:56] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, ok i will restart and log in and out, one second
[17:56] <holstein> !mini | gargola
[17:57] <holstein> ^ that can be an easier base system to install, gargola .. also, you can just clone whatever OS you have, if thats what you are trying to do...
[17:57] <gargola> Ok holstein, thanks
[17:58] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: for Exogar: it's worth asking if his system has a separate mount for "/var/" or "/var/log/" since those being frozen can cause kern.log to not receive the messages during suspend/resume, which causes apport to mis-read as a symptom of a failed suspend/resume cycle
[17:58] <jost> to delete a user, is it enough to remove him from the /etc/passwd file?
[17:58] <joe1r23> gargola: The user information is saved in /etc/passwd and encrypted password in /etc/shadow. i can find bits of options from dpkg-reconfigure in /usr/share/slapd/. bare in mind that this is on dabian.
[17:58] <jost> (and the group from /etc/group)
[17:58] <pakcjo> is it a good idea to run do-release-upgrade from screen? or it spawns its own screen (in case of network lost)
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ok tnx!
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but isnt it strange it only occurs on his gnome shell and not unity?
[17:59] <MoPac> This may well be just a wget question, but #wget is quite, and I was hoping to try here. I'm trying to sync files with a server folder, with a twist. I need to locally write the files with names that include the files' server-issued timestamp. And I need to check for new files on the server folder based on timestamp and *not* on filename
[17:59] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: It's possible what you hinted at - only been using gnome-shell when he suspends
[18:00] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I had that same issue for 13.04 and 13.10, and it was because I have a lot of separate file-systems for things like /var/ and others
[18:00] <holstein> MoPac: are you "married" to wget? or are you just trying to do that task?
[18:00] <gargola> Ok joe1r23, thanks
[18:01] <MoPac> holstein: Not married at all. Eventually, I'll probably be putting the action into a python script, and it can be anything. Wget was the tool I sort of know to start with
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i suspect more an acpi problem for specific acer to ubuntu, alot of bugs show on google fro suspend
[18:01] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, i shut my laptop down and restarted with unity , waited a while and logged me off and in again - no error :o
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: wb
[18:01] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, thanks mate :)
[18:01] <sportman> so i know this is def a noob question, but are there any good github gui clients for linux?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: lotuspsychje: for Exogar: it's worth asking if his system has a separate mount for "/var/" or "/var/log/" since those being frozen can cause kern.log to not receive the messages during suspend/resume, which causes apport to mis-read as a symptom of a failed suspend/resume cycle
[18:02] <holstein> sportman: "good" is a matter of opinion and use case.. what have you tried?
[18:02] <nikk1> how to install  x.tar.tz  file
[18:02] <sportman> honestly the only one i have tried is smartgit
[18:02] <nikk1> how to install  x.tar.gz  file
[18:02] <sportman> which isn't half bad
[18:02] <sportman> but a lot of the other ones didn't seem compatible with github but just local git repos
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: did you install ubuntu gnome or default ubuntu desktop 14.04 and installed gnome shell after?
[18:02] <holstein> nikk1: i say, *dont* install those, unless you know what you are doing.. otherwise, the creator should give you installation instructions
[18:03] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, i dont think i have a seperated mout, i was asked for something like that while installing, but i just used the default installation stuff
[18:03] <holstein> nikk1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961/how-do-i-install-a-tar-gz-or-tar-bz2-file will, or could be appropriate
[18:03] <MoPac> holstein: Background -- the folder is here https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/data/gis/images/4326/USCOMP/ . It stores the last 10 or so US weather radar composite images, and it names the files blah_0 (newest) through blah_9 (oldest). I want to keep a local folder synced by just downloading the new images. But with each new image, *all* the filenames change, see?
[18:03] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, i installed gnome afterwards
[18:03] <nikk1> holstein,  installing  apache openoffice     Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[18:03] <holstein> nikk1: dont.. just use libreoffice from the repos
[18:04] <bakflash> isn't it weird, that "sudo crontab -e" (as sudoer) is the same aus "crontab -e" as root? I thought sudo is using a command with root privileges, not *as* root?
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: well not sure on this one mate, havent used gnome in a while...you dislike unity?
[18:04] <bakflash> *same as
[18:04] <Pici> bakflash: no.. it is executing things as root.
[18:04] <vilambit_> joe1r23: thx for answering
[18:05] <vilambit_> joe1r23: any pointers to solutions?
[18:05] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, well i dont hate it, i just liked gnome more since those shopping-suggestions annoyed me on unity - but i figured out how to disable them anyways. maybe i will just stick to unity again for a while...
[18:05] <nikk1> holstein,  anyways want  to know how to install tar.gz  , in future it will help for any other  ...........right now im using libreoffice , it is pre-installed with ubuntu 14.04
[18:06] <bakflash> Pici: oh, then I had a wrong idea of this. thanks!
[18:06] <holstein> nikk1: the creators of the software provide support, and instructions on how to use the products they are providing
[18:06] <zerowaitstate> bakflas
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: maybe test ubuntu-gnome default iso? http://ubuntugnome.org/download/
[18:07] <nikk1> holstein,  that means we need to unzip and untar to see  readme.txt file
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: not sure if that would fix your issue..
[18:07] <bakflash> zerowaitstate: yeah?
[18:07] <holstein> nikk1: whatever the creators suggest..
[18:07] <zerowaitstate> bakflash: sorry, sudo executes a program as the root user, or another user at your option. However, it does not change your environment.
[18:08] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, well this sounds like a good idea, does it mean i have to reinstall all packages and stuff?
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: yes, its perfered you install clean
[18:08] <bakflash> zerowaitstate: oh hell I can use also other users with sudo? I think it's time for "man sudo"  ;-)
[18:08] <newshound> has anyone figured out a guy way to deal with windows in unity?
[18:09] <newshound> esp for a dev environment?
[18:09] <newshound> :|
[18:09] <zerowaitstate> sudo -u <user>
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: but that doesnt mean your issue will be gone, just test this out for yourself
[18:09] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, okay thats bad, i need my computer for my work at the moment, but when i am on vacation i will try this out :)
[18:09] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, yeah indeed :/
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: meanwhile enjoy unity's power :p
[18:09] <bakflash> zerowaitstate: oh wow and I was always switching between users when I was administrating things.. -_-
[18:10] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, right :D thanks a whole lot for your support mate, i really appreciate it !
[18:10] <zerowaitstate> bakflash: the advantage of sudo over a root login is that it records to the syslog when you excalate privileges, so it is easier for someone coming in behind to figure out what you screwed up
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Exogar
[18:10] <[[[SENDAK]]]> I would like the displays colors reduced to 16.
[18:10] <Exogar> lotuspsychje, okay mate, my gfs making dinner now, cya mate :)
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> Exogar: bon apetit :p
[18:11] <Exogar> lotuspsychje,  thanks :D
[18:11] <bakflash> zerowaitstate: I see.. that makes sense tough
[18:11] <murosai> does anyone here use tilda? im having problems with applications that use alt+num combinations like irssi
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> newshound: virtualbox?
[18:13] <[[[SENDAK]]]> ~
[18:14] <zerowaitstate> [[[SENDAK]]]: is this b/c your are vnc'ing into the machine?
[18:14] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Does Xorg underlay everything graphical on ubuntu?
[18:15] <zerowaitstate> [[[SENDAK]]]: yeah
[18:15] <Pici> [[[SENDAK]]]: are you asking to reduce or increase the number of colors?
[18:15] <[[[SENDAK]]]> zerowaitstate: It seems like it is a vnc wrapped with ssh.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: yes Xorg is the base. Other options exist like Mir and Wayland
[18:15] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Pici: I want the display reduced to 16 colors.
[18:16] <bakflash> zerowaitstate: anyway, thanks for your explanation :)
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: what are you wanting to do on your remote pc that needs vnc?
[18:16] <[[[SENDAK]]]> SO to reduce the colors machine wide is the xorg config the proper file?
[18:17] <zerowaitstate> [[[SENDAK]]]: actually the vncserver is where you need to do that
[18:17] <zerowaitstate> [[[SENDAK]]]: or preferably in the client
[18:17] <[[[SENDAK]]]> ActionParsnip: Finding out where why and how there is a remote machine is a start.
[18:18] <Pici> [[[SENDAK]]]: I've usually seen vnc clients do this, instead of making changes to the server
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: when you connect to the server what do you do or intend to do?
[18:19] <zerowaitstate> [[[SENDAK]]]: do you mean 16 colors or 16-bit color?
[18:19] <zerowaitstate> [[[SENDAK]]]: w/ 16 colors you aren't going to be able to do $@()$#
[18:19] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Just change the local machine to 16 colors.
[18:19] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Or 256.
[18:20] <[[[SENDAK]]]> 16 is better for coding.
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: what activities will you be doing on the remote desktop please?
[18:20] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Finding out where why and how.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: I may be able to suggest a lighter and faster solution than vnc
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: surely a system that can connect to a remote server can connect to the web?
[18:21] <[[[SENDAK]]]> It seems as if it may even be that the local user is vnc'd into the kernel on the local machine.
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: the web has those answers.  You don't need vnc for that
[18:22] <compdoc> I install xrdp on my ubuntu servers these days
[18:22] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Reduce machine wide display to 16 colors.
[18:22] <ActionParsnip>  Sway: please don't do that
[18:22] <zerowaitstate> compdoc: Peasant!
[18:22] <Sway> ActionParsnip: What?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Sway: the away spam
[18:23] <Sway> What away spam?
[18:23] <compdoc> heh
[18:23] <zerowaitstate> Sway: your IRC client is changing your name when you're away. It generates needless traffic
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Sway|awat is now known as Sway
[18:23] <matjaz_> actionparsnip: I found the answer to problems with unity/metacity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/448204/how-do-i-add-a-border-around-windows-but-keep-the-current-theme
[18:23] <Sway> o
[18:23] <Sway> My bad
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Sway np :-)
[18:24] <zerowaitstate> compdoc: nothing wrong w/ RDP man. Citrix is boss.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> matjaz_: awesome :-)
[18:25] <mengde> hi! I'd like to boot into a different kernel I have installed, but for some reason my keyboard doesn't work in the grub menu (works fire in bios) any other way I might do it?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> mengde: chroot from live CD / USB is one way.
[18:26] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Where is the Xorg config?
[18:26] <saiborg> Hey
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: you don't have one by default
[18:26] <bakflash> I want to mount my ext4 drive, is there anything wrong with the following fstab entry? /dev/sdd1 /media/drive4 ext4 defaults,rw,uid=foo,gid=foo 0 0
[18:26] <MoPac> mengde: My keyboard sporadically fails to work in grub2, but usually reboot helps. Have never found a proper solution
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> [[[SENDAK]]]: if you put one in /etc/X11 it will be obeyed
[18:27] <llutz> bakflash: uid/gid aren't valid mount options for unix-fs
[18:27] <saiborg> Um.
[18:27] <unstable> There is some bug in 14.04 where my lock screen hotkey stopped working, control + alt + l
[18:27] <unstable> I checked keyboard/system/lock, and I can see control+alt+l as the key combo
[18:27] <unstable> Has anyone else hit this?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> bakflash: run: sudo blkid ,use the ID instead of the device name that can change
[18:28] <mengde> ok thx, I'll try rebooting a few time first
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> mengde: try a different port
[18:28] <bakflash> llutz: can I mount a drive as specific user? I don't want to mount my drive as root
[18:28] <llutz> bakflash: use chown/chmod for unix-fs
[18:28] <sai> Help
[18:29] <mengde> ActionParsnip, ok I'll try that too thanks
[18:29] <bakflash> llutz: but it will be resetted after reboot? :o
[18:29] <llutz> bakflash: no
[18:29] <sai> Um. Anybody using elementary OS?
[18:29] <bakflash> llutz: huh.. well then I have to see what happens. okay, thanks again! :-)
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> bakflash: the data acl will store the access. The mount point mounted as root is fine
[18:29] <sai> There are some bugs I came across.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Sai: try #elementaryos
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Sai: elementary is not supported here
[18:30] <sai> Ah. Sorry.
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Np :)
[18:30] <sai> I will, thanks.
[18:31] <zerowaitstate> bakflash: there is normally no need to mount a drive a particular user w/ ext4, since it supports POSIX-style permissions. Other formats like VFAT and ISO9660 are mounted as a particular user so that the kernel can "make up" permissions for those files.
[18:31] <Sway> ActionParsnip: I changed my znc settings *just* for you.
[18:31] <Sway> :p
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Sway: thanks. Ubottu has a factoid for it for a reason :-)
[18:32] <sl33k_> I see the remaining percentage sometimes shot up in the battery indicator applet plugin. How accurate is it? Could I change to other battery plugin?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: is the battery old?
[18:34] <bakflash> zerowaitstate: yeah that makes sense tough. But my permissions was resetted on reboot so I thought it won't work like this. Well I think I have a corrupted harddrive, got some I/O error messages :/
[18:40] <scrapcode> I don't have too much important stuff on this installation of Xubuntu. Is it worth trying to dual-boot windows overtop this install or just do a fresh reformat?
[18:40] <SIRIORUS> CIAO
[18:40] <sruz25> anyone knows how to add files to home dir of 14.04 live cd? It's the one with option to save some settings with limit set to 500MB, and I was able to create some file in ~/Desktop and it was still there after boot. Is there any way to add files while not running thy system, but when it's connected as normal flash drive to another system?
[18:40] <SIRIORUS> !LISTA
[18:42] <Dinosaurio> Is there any good alternative to flash plugin in Ubuntu 14.04? I'm using some codecs that are called "bad", and as their name say, they work badly bad
[18:42] <sruz25> for youtube?
[18:42] <Dinosaurio> sruz25: no, I can use html5; I mean for some newspaper that don't allow it.
[18:43] <Dinosaurio> newspapers*
[18:43] <sruz25> hmm, there is userscript called viewtube (works with greasemonkey or what's it called), which works on dailymotion and few other webs too
[18:44] <sruz25> (and of course youtube)
[18:45] <sruz25> I recommend even as replacement for html5, which - while better than flash - is still not that good, mplayer plugin ar vlc plugin are much better
[18:51] <Praxi> hmm my server can boot up off a suse disc, but not a ubuntu server 14.04 disc.  The disc is good as the workstations can boot off of it
[18:53] <genii> Praxi: The first thing I'd suspect is the disc itself might be physically different than the reader which is on the server can read. Like maybe it's a CD+R but the server's drive can do CD-R, etc
[18:54] <Kamaris> Does anyone have a good resource for what settings you can modify to cut down on Unity's graphic effects? I'm on a headless system which I VNC into, and the transition effects are very time consuming to render
[18:59] <blanko> hello. does anybody know how secure ecryptfs really is? I want to use it with over 10letters.
[18:59] <genii> Kamaris: Maybe switch to unity-2d desktop
[19:01] <Kully> blanko: how secure do you need it to be?
[19:01] <zxxz> kill me
[19:02] <zxxz> kill me
[19:02] <blanko> Kully, If some experts get it, I dont want to have success to access my data. maybe for next 10Years :)
[19:02] <raouk>  hey i have xubuntu 14.04 in a VM, and after 10 minutes it becomes unresponsive. The whole VM freezes, and i have to reboot. How can i figure out whats going on?
[19:03] <owen1> how to setup static ip on my home laptop?
[19:04] <owen1> is it as simple as changing /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:04] <Squarepy> owen1, why not use the network manager
[19:05] <owen1> Squarepy: sure. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/set-static-ip-address-ubuntu-13-04/ ?
[19:05] <Kully> blanko: it has a pretty low exploitability, but nothing is 100% secure. If the right person has it for long enough time who knows. Also if I understand correctly, ecryptfs is only encrypted when unmounted; so don't leave it mounted
[19:05] <Squarepy> owen1, how I would do it indeed
[19:06] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Is it possible to clone the on disk ubuntu install  onto a live cd?
[19:06] <owen1> Squarepy: sweet. so i can just pick an address and my dhcp will give it to me? that's cool
[19:06] <pakcjo> oh, I have problems with slapd, the upgrade didn't go well :(
[19:06] <Kamaris> genii: unity-2d no longer seems to be an option since 13.04
[19:07] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?
[19:07] <genii> !info unity-2d
[19:07] <Squarepy> owen1, you will circumvent the dhcp, please select a ip outside the public range used by your router to assign dhcp managed ips
[19:07] <genii> Hm.
[19:07] <blanko> Kully, police is having my harddisk. :( -> they told me. I can have it back in a few days. after a few days they told me that is crypted. :)  now they go to my throat.
[19:08] <Squarepy> owen1, otherwise conflicts can happen
[19:08] <owen1> Squarepy: interesting.
[19:08] <owen1> so look at my router for the range and pick an ip outside of it.
[19:08] <Kully> owen1: when you pick an address dhcp is not giving it to you, works like this; computer asks dhcp for an ip, dhcp assigns; if you set static, it never reaches out
[19:08] <blanko> Kully, harddisk will be send to some experts. they will crack it. :(   and the best of it. I have to pay for.
[19:08] <Squarepy> owen1, pretty much, as you are doing that write the gateway etc info
[19:09] <Kully> blanko: i'm not getting involved with anything police related. Perhaps you could call them and ask what they recommend.
[19:09] <blanko> Kully, but if they could not hack, I dont have to pay ... what would you do on my side
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> what are your options? sounds like you have to wait
[19:11] <Squarepy> ^^
[19:13] <blanko> I told them to be on there side by having access to my encoded data. but they dont accepted. therefore I dont trust them.
[19:14] <Squarepy> how is that an answer to the question blanko ?
[19:14] <blanko> I should pay the bill of hacking my data. I make it secure and they want me to unlock
[19:14] <SchrodingersScat> blanko: you should probably discuss this with your lawyer
[19:14] <llutz> blanko: and your ubuntu support related question is?
[19:15] <blanko> ok.. hihi
[19:15] <blanko> thought someone knows a part of secureness. If all is unsecure, its same as it is in Windows.
[19:16] <llutz> blanko: afaik it uses aes128 by default
[19:16] <pakcjo> ok, I think I'm stucked here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/1003854 what can I do??
[19:16] <aarobc> I'm curious why openvpn isn't an option when you go to set up a vpn through the gui interface
[19:17] <blanko> llutz, that means?
[19:17] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Is there a comparable app for ubuntu that makes a boot disk?
[19:17] <TJ-> aarobc: You can add it with the package "network-manager-openvpn-gnome"
[19:17] <[[[SENDAK]]]> Such as microsoft win98 had?
[19:18] <aarobc> TJ-: much thanks, will try that
[19:18] <TJ-> blanko: The encryption is as strong as the randomness of the passphrase
[19:18] <bekks> [[[SENDAK]]]: dont expect us to know anything about windows :)
[19:18] <snayder> cinnamon para ubuntu?
[19:18] <llutz> blanko: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard#Security
[19:18] <bekks> !usb | [[[SENDAK]]]
[19:18] <pakcjo> guys I need help, please...
[19:18] <[[[SENDAK]]]> I want to resize the root volume(s)
[19:18] <bekks> [[[SENDAK]]]: So boot a live medium and do it?
[19:18] <[[[SENDAK]]]> The tools to do it are on the system but unmounting the disk the tools are run from may cause a lockup.
[19:19] <Amanai> hey, i'm installing ubuntu 12.04 alongside with windows 7 and it doesn't provide any partitioning method. i need it to use LVM
[19:19] <bekks> [[[SENDAK]]]: Thats why you have to do that offline, by booting a live cd/usb.
[19:19] <TJ-> [[[SENDAK]]]: Usual process for root file-system is to boot from a liveISO and do it from there
[19:19] <[[[SENDAK]]]> bekks: Is there software thatcreates a live CD from the running system?
[19:19] <SchrodingersScat> !liveUSB | [[[SENDAK]]]
[19:20] <blanko> Thanks.
[19:21] <[[[SENDAK]]]> The usb-creator requires an ISO I am asking how to make an ISO from the current system.
[19:22] <kingbeowolf> in ubuntu what is the QT5Lingustics package?
[19:23] <SchrodingersScat> [[[SENDAK]]]: like you are trying to back it up?
[19:23] <raouk>  hey i have xubuntu 14.04 in a VM, and after 10 minutes it becomes unresponsive. The whole VM freezes, and i have to reboot. How can i figure out whats going on?
[19:24] <bblindy> raouk, are you using VirtualBox?
[19:25] <raouk> bblindy: no vmware
[19:26] <bblindy> the logs should be able to give you more info
[19:26] <bekks> [[[SENDAK]]]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/320826/is-it-possible-to-make-an-exact-iso-of-my-system-to-put-on-other-computers
[19:26] <Voyage> Hi,
[19:26] <raouk> bblindy: which logs?
[19:26] <Voyage> Is there a SIMPLE way to install ubuntu on a vps, install GUI after or with it. and do ssh but with GUI . like windows remote desktop?
[19:26] <bblindy> from vmware
[19:26] <bekks> raouk: the vmware logs for your vm.
[19:27] <rohan> is there some command which allows me to completely remove unity after installing "kubuntu-desktop"? and/or remove kubuntu completely after installing "ubuntu-desktop"?
[19:27] <trism> kingbeowolf: I see linguist tools in qttools5-dev and qttools5-dev-tools, is that what you are looking for?
[19:28] <kingbeowolf> trism, yes thanks alot
[19:28] <raouk> bekks: on the host or guest? I dont see any logs in /var/log/ for vmware on guest and hsot
[19:28] <pakcjo> help, anyone?
[19:28] <bekks> raouk: Where does vmware create logs? :)
[19:28] <pakcjo> how do I recover from this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/1003854
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> pakcjo  start with a question
[19:29] <raouk> bekks: ill have to ask google because i was unaware that vmware had logs
[19:29] <pakcjo> MonkeyDust: just did, after upgrade my ldap is not working
[19:29] <pakcjo> MonkeyDust: if I create /var/lib/ldap/accesslog it starts but it doesn't seem to have the old configuration
[19:29] <Kully> so copy over your old configuration
[19:29] <Kully> did you not make a back up
[19:30] <bekks> raouk: Youd better refer to the vmware docs then :)
[19:30] <raouk> bekks: allrighty
[19:30] <raouk> tahnks
[19:31] <raouk> oh, another question. How can i tell tor to get a new identity without using vidalia
[19:31] <raouk> ?
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> pakcjo  is that a server? if yes, try #ubuntu-server
[19:32] <raouk> ahp nvm got it
[19:32] <pakcjo> MonkeyDust: yes, thanks
[19:35] <jackbrown> anyone can help me to watch this streaming ? http://www.iene.mediaset.it/
[19:35] <xangua> jackbrown: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[19:36] <jackbrown> xangua: thanks
[19:36] <skinux> What is the program to create/edit desktop icons?
[19:37] <skinux> Not graphics, but actual icon files
[19:37] <Bashing-om> Amanai: Legacyt partitioning only permits 4 primary partitions. I bet Window 7 is using all 4 (??) To look from ubuntu; terminal commands -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l <- .
[19:37] <OerHeks> xangua, pipelight doesn't work for me, since 2 weeks or so
[19:37] <Bashing-om> *legacy
[19:39] <xangua> OerHeks: I think I will die before all this restricted plugind do
[19:39] <jackbrown> ?
[19:39] <Amanai> Bashing-om: i have two primary from windows, and ubuntu created one extended, which is divided into two logical: the main partition and a swap
[19:40] <Bashing-om> Amanai: That looks correct, so again, what is the problem ?
[19:40] <Achi||es> hi there
[19:41] <Amanai> Bashing-om: I would like to set up my ubuntu so that I could use LVM. I need it for Xen, which I didn't realize at first
[19:42] <Bashing-om> Amanai: Sorry, out of my range of experience, others will have to advise.
[19:42] <mitrovarr> so, this is kind of a weird question, but I didn't know where else to ask it. I'm trying to compile a program for a cluster, which doesn't have a version of gcc new enough to compile it. I need to link everything statically because it doesn't have the libraries new enough to dynamically link anything from my development machine. It's build by the standard ./configure make commands.  The computer I'm working from is ubuntu-based but not the cluster. -
[19:42] <mitrovarr> -enable-static doesn't work, -CFLAGS=-static doesn't work... any other ideas?
[19:43] <Amanai> Bashing-om: i don't need help with Xen, just LVM :) well, okay
[19:44] <Bashing-om> Amanai: Not a great suggestion,, but in the intial install set up one may choode "LVM" .. if ya have nothing to loose on the current ubuntu install, ya might (RE-)install and play around with that option.
[19:45] <andreas_> hello?
[19:45] <Bashing-om> *choose
[19:45] <TJ-> mitrovarr: how about LDFLAGS="-static" ?
[19:45] <andreas_> is this the room for help with ubuntu
[19:46] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Hi ! ; You have a support request ?
[19:46] <andreas_> yes
[19:46] <Bashing-om> !ask | andreas_
[19:46] <mitrovarr> already tried it
[19:46] <aarobc> So I installed network-manager-openvpn-gnome but when I select the import option and select the client.ovpn file is no worky
[19:47] <andreas_> ok, I recently had to put a new video card in my desktop since my other one stopped working, and I'm having a problem. the first video card I put in set itself up automatically and I was brought right to the log in screen like normal. but this one, which is supposed to work the same way, is bringing me to terminal after the bios screen goes off. I am not familiar with terminal commands, so I do not know how to get to the normal log
[19:47] <andreas_> in screen from there
[19:47] <Amanai> Bashing-om: nothing to lose, I just installed. i tried looking for LVM 12.04 install and it doesn't seem to have such option. I tried 14.04, it has the LVM checkbox, but it enables it only when I choose to erase the whole physical disc
[19:48] <Bashing-om> Amanai: YUK, just goes to show how much I do not know .. best await those who have been there ( I have seen serveral on here that do know ).
[19:48] <mitrovarr> I've been trying to pile on every 'please compile this static' command I can google up. I think I was last using "./configure --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --enable-static "CFLAGS=-m32 -static -static" "CXXFLAGS=-m32 -static" "LDFLAGS=-m32 -static"
[19:49] <jcw4> what is the recommended PC VNC client for Trusty?  RealVNC doesn't seem to be able to connect?
[19:49] <mitrovarr> I am also compiling for 32 bit (that's why I can't use the provided binaries, they're 64 bit)
[19:49] <Amanai> Bashing-om: but I would like to keep the two primary win7 partitions in place. it basically says: 1) You can upgrade your installed 12.04 to 14.04. Windows 7 won't be affected, 2) You can erase 12.04 and replace it with 14.04. Windows 7 won't be affected, 3) You can erase everything (Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows7) and install 14.04
[19:49] <Bashing-om> andreas_: What card did you install, and what release are you running ?
[19:49] <Amanai> Bashing-om: so only in (3) it enables the checkbox
[19:49] <Amanai> ok
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Amanai: Sorry tr my ignorance, but would hurt me deeply to miss lead you.
[19:51] <mitrovarr> the two libraries that are the main problem are glibc and libstdc++
[19:51] <Bashing-om> *tr/for
[19:53] <andreas_> I'm running 12.04 and the card is an nvidia model p1310
[19:55] <TJ-> mitrovarr: I'd build a VM that mirrors the target, or else a chroot, or build a full cross-compile toolchain
[19:55] <[[[wilhelm]]]> The lvm does not unmount therefor it is unable to be resized, any solutions?
[19:56] <[[[wilhelm]]]> link to that help file
[19:56] <mitrovarr> But the target can't build the program. It doesn't have a gcc modern enough, and probably lots of other things. That's why I don't just build it on the platform.
[19:57] <Pici> [[[wilhelm]]]: it would be very helpful if you stuck with the same nickname instead of using random ones, that way helpers can haev some idea about what you are referring to.
[19:58] <TJ-> mitrovarr: Ahhh, I see the problem :) I'd use a chroot and modify the build scripts to ensure static linking
[19:58] <mitrovarr> I tried to build gcc on the target platform, but it didn't want to work, and I ran into issues with overflowing my disk quota (I have access, but it isn't my cluster)
[19:59] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Pondering how to proceed.// What was the card that was replaced ? in the event we have to go removing modules .
[20:00] <[[[wilhelm]]]> Is it possiblr to resize an LV that is in use?
[20:00] <andreas_> oh god, that was a while ago... I do know it was another nvidia, I just can't remember the model number. I don't have the old one anymore unfortunately. though I might still have the disk around somewhere
[20:01] <TJ-> mitrovarr: have you used "-static-libgcc" ?
[20:01] <mitrovarr> TJ-: I've tried -static-libgcc and -static-libstdc++'. -static-libstdc++ did seem to result in libstdc++ linking statically but I was still getting errors about glibc not being found
[20:02] <mitrovarr> TJ-: I've been trying different iterations of those commands as we speak. I'll see what ldd says about the binary produced this time in a minute.
[20:02] <stormageddon> in #pbgrandcentral
[20:04] <Bashing-om> andreas_: No biiggy, IRC lesson, preceed a response with the person you are addressing with their nick ( Bashing-om, ba <tab completion> ), else I can miss your reply, or be elsewhere and not be notified of a response.// Do you know how to boot with the "nomodeset" boot parameter to get to desk top ? We can fix this !
[20:05] <BigPhilou> [[[wilhelm]]]: it mainly depends on your type of filesystem
[20:05] <andreas_> Bashing-om: no, I don't know how to do much of anything in terminal unfortunately. but definitely willing to learn.
[20:07] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Outstanding, OK, we do not know how the former driver was installed. but let;s try an eas(ier) methos to get ya fixed up. DO you see the grub menu when you boot the operating system ? We will boot to the desk top from that grub menu.
[20:07] <Bashing-om> method*
[20:07] <andreas_> Bashing-om: what does it look like?
[20:08] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Single installed operating system huh ? .. OK cold boot the machine, as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu.
[20:09] <vik123> is there a way to restore GRUB in ubuntu 14.04 after re installing  windows 8
[20:09] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok one sec
[20:09] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Sure, at your pace.
[20:11] <endegra> Hello
[20:12] <dimm_> 222
[20:12] <pakcjo> If i have a package in state iF how can I reinstall/reconfigure it?
[20:12] <mitrovarr> TJ-: The last attempt still was dynamically linked to libc. Trying one more thing, and then I'll look into the chroot option.
[20:12] <endegra> When I plug in an external USB mouse into my Acer laptop, a few of my laptop keyboard keys stop working, like "0", "/", ")" and "["
[20:12] <endegra> How do I fix this?
[20:13] <ububen> I'm trying to give my virtualbox access to see my usb devices, I'm not having much success. The drive is mounted and usable in Ubuntu, but can't be seen in virtualbox
[20:13] <ububen> sorry, hi, i'm looking for some help with my Ubuntu issue
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[20:16] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok I have it up
[20:16] <endegra> Hello :(
[20:16] <debianfreak> I can onlie login as root no matter how many users I create. any help?
[20:19] <endegra> man i knew windows 8 was better
[20:19] <debianfreak> I can only login as root no matter how many users I create. any help?
[20:19] <compdoc> how did you know I was a man?
[20:20] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, Let's try this; with the ubuntu entry line highlighted, 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen, arrow down and across to the term "quiet splash" and insert "nomodeset"- with out the quotes -; key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process. Can you now log in and get the desk top ? degraded graphics is OK at this point.
[20:20] <debianfreak> compdoc: bcz here these are all men and all these men are nerds
[20:21] <ububen> ok, after some more searching it looks like I have to add my user to the vboxusers group so vbox can have access to my usb device.
[20:21] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I add it right after quiet splash? or after the whole line? because the whole line is "quiet splash $vt_handoff"
[20:22] <Bashing-om> andreas_: @ quite splash will be fine.
[20:22] <debianfreak> I installed  xfce desktop as root and I cant login as user
[20:22] <KGM70> qiuet splash
[20:23] <matux> know I install live CD ..... conect internet
[20:23] <Voyage> Hi
[20:23] <Voyage> Is there an EASY and SIMPLE way to connect to a remote vps that has a GUI desktop running ? (like remote desktop in windows)
[20:24] <andreas_> Bashing-om: it brought me to the same login prompt that it did before, the one in terminal. unless that's what you meant
[20:25] <Bashing-om> matux: Just boot the liveDVD, wired connection should be picked up automagically.
[20:25] <debianfreak> linux uses too little RAM thats annoying :))))
[20:26] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: what type of VPS is it?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Nope, not at all what was expected, now we are looking at a authorization issue rather than a grahics issue. so in terminal what returns from : -> ls -la .Xauthority , ls -la .ICEauthority <- ??
[20:27] <zerowaitstate> debianfreak: just install MySQL and increase the buffer pool size; that'll make you feel better
[20:28] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I type that line in, right?
[20:28] <zerowaitstate> debianfreak: BTW, linux will use free ram for disk caching and buffers
[20:29] <Bashing-om> andreas_: copy and paste to preclude errors, but yeah .. we want to know what the permissions are on those files to give you access to the desk top.
[20:29] <mitch-_> ok. i have a google hangouts icon now that i've updated chrome and it breaks it into it's own icon instead of being WITH google chrome.... how do i find that .desktop file to change it's icon?
[20:29] <jimi_> I installed "meld" from apt, and it installed without error, but launching it fails with "Cannot import: pygtk No module named pygtk"
[20:30] <bouleria> hi
[20:31] <bouleria> need help please
[20:31] <andreas_> Bashing-om: it says "ls: cannot access ,: no such file or directory ls: cannot access ls: no such file or directory -rw------- 1 andreas andreas 29370 Mar 19 2014 .ICEauthority -rw------- 1 andreas andreas    54 Mar 19 2014 .Xauthority
[20:31] <Amanai> Bashing-om: hey, i solved my issue. just booted into 14.04 livecd, split my 12.04 volume in two with gparted, set lvm flag on it in gparted and initialized LVM inside 12.04 following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm :)
[20:31] <debianfreak> zerowaitstate: I'm on Win7 and used too se ram usage from 1500mb up.... now I've installed debian under vmware and its using like 100mb and I'm like wtf :)))
[20:32] <Amanai> Bashing-om: i.e. split a partition and initialized LVM on it
[20:32] <bouleria> f
[20:32] <mitch-_> does anyone know to list icons that are "locked to launcher" so i can find one for "hangouts"
[20:32] <zerowaitstate> jimi_: may be your python-gtk2 package is broke
[20:32] <Amanai> so simple
[20:32] <w4|k3r> debianfreak, You install it permanently(hard install) on your system, I can assure you - you will get better battery life too
[20:33] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,  amazon vps with ubuntu lts
[20:33] <elisa87> how can I find my Java Standard Edition Runtime Environment (JRE) installation location in ubuntu?
[20:34] <debianfreak> w4|k3r: I kissed goodbye my battery many years ago. I'm using a 2008 laptop and literraly throwed the dea baterry in the trash
[20:34] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: you would need to install vnc-server on the vm and allow the vnc port in VPC.
[20:34] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Well, that do seem to be the problem .. no .Xauthority file ? .. no this is strange, that file should be created when you start the system. Try this: do a complete shutdown of the system and boot up once more. Let's see if that file gets created. once re-booted try again ->ls -la .Xauthority <- .
[20:35] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok
[20:35] <zerowaitstate> debianfreak: you running a GUI desktop on it?
[20:35] <Bashing-om> Amanai: You do good work ! Pleased to know my self that it is doable !
[20:35] <debianfreak> w4|k3r: but i surely plan to migrate for good. just want to get used to liux in vmware first to avoid frustration. once i'd feel confident i will throw windows and never look back :D
[20:36] <debianfreak> zerowaitstate: LXDE
[20:36] <zerowaitstate> debianfreak: ah, lol.  Yup that'll do it.
[20:36] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,  is that easy?
[20:36] <debianfreak> :P
[20:37] <mitrovarr> the thing that annoys me the most about this is, the program has a configure option that's supposed to make it compile static. It's in the manual and everything. It just doesn't work.
[20:37] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,  I need unattending connectivity with GUI
[20:37] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: unattending?
[20:37] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: oh, you mean w/ no logon?
[20:37] <bgardner> elisa87: Try: update-alternatives --list java
[20:38] <andreas_> Bashing-om: it says "-rw------- 1 andreas andreas 54 Mar 19 2014 .Xauthority"
[20:38] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,  i mean that the server would be running. I can connect whenever I want. there should not be some person there to allow me. ( like windows remote desktop)
[20:38] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: yeah, you don't need that w/ VNC.
[20:39] <debianfreak> zerowaitstate: which gui would u recommend?
[20:39] <zerowaitstate> debianfreak: which GUI would I recommend to use up all your memory?
[20:39] <elisa87> Do you know why is this wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7539095/  bash: export: `=/usr/bin/java': not a valid identifier
[20:39] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Good ! .. and it booted to the TTY ?
[20:39] <debianfreak> zerowaitstate: nope. for a windows user who's just experimenting with linux
[20:40] <zerowaitstate> debianfreak: meh; I use the default Unity desktop in Ubuntu b/c it just works.  I've also used KDE and Gnome2
[20:40] <andreas_> Bashing-om: yes, it did it from the beginning.
[20:40] <zerowaitstate> debianfreak: I don't recommend the vanilla Gnome3, but the others are fine.
[20:40] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,  have you setup vnc?
[20:40] <trism> elisa87: no dollar sign when exporting, $JAVA_HOME was expanded to "" (the empty string)
[20:41] <trism> elisa87: export JAVA_HOME=blah
[20:41] <debianfreak> zerowaitstate: so I;ll stick to the lightweight LXDE
[20:41] <Baako_> hi guys how do i make a file writable only
[20:41] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, let's see what now results if we try and start that GUI (desk top) from that terminal .. what results with -> sudo service lightdm start <-  ?
[20:41] <Baako_> is it 666 or 777
[20:41] <andreas_> Bashing-om: let's find out
[20:42] <linelevel> Hi. I run Ubuntu on my Lenovo Thinkpad T410 laptop. I just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04, which broke a script I use to control my laptop's CPU fan speed. Here is the script and error message: http://pastebin.com/Q0ueHRce  Can anyone help?
[20:43] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,  have you setup vnc?
[20:43] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: I did a while back on a RedHat box; I haven't done it on Ubuntu.
[20:44] <andreas_> Bashing-om: would you mind giving me your e-mail so I can send you a picture of what my screen looks like? because there's a lot to type out if I were to
[20:44] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,  how long did it took for you?
[20:44] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,  what is the name of the server and what is the name of the client?
[20:44] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | andreas_
[20:45] <London3D_> Is HAL still a package? I tried to install in and apt-get came back with nothing.
[20:45] <iceroot> London3D_: HAL is not used anymore
[20:45] <zerowaitstate> I used TightVNC for the client and vnc4server
[20:47] <iceroot> London3D_: udev is now the way to go
[20:47] <greenman> hi.
[20:47] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I tried to go to the page to post screenshots but chrome said there's malware
[20:47] <greenman> I'm having all kinds of trouble getting ubuntu to work on my mac mini.  14.04.
[20:48] <mitrovarr> is there any option I can use with configure and make that will tell it "Absolutely, positively only use static libraries. If you cannot use a static library, STOP."
[20:48] <greenman> Can I just install 12.04 and update it from there?
[20:48] <greenman> (assuming 12.04 works and has efi support)
[20:48] <Bashing-om> andreas_: I rarely open my e-mail.. the above will do wonders. OK, You are running the original nVidia driver (?? we do not know ) but try -> nvidia-installer --upgrade <- and see what happens. [maybe yes] .
[20:49] <Bashing-om> andreas_: I too run Chrome, lemme see what my result is.
[20:52] <Voyage> what is the vncserver application package for ubuntu?
[20:52] <andreas_> Bashing-om: "nvidia-installer: command not found"
[20:53] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, ya see the new window - from me, please repsond to that new IRC window.
[20:54] <SchrodingersScat> !pm
[20:56] <slugboy1122> anyone free to help on Aircrack?
[20:56] <mitrovarr> TJ-: I took a look at the modifying the scripts, but I was merely reminded of my inability to program. So I'm going to look into statifier first, maybe that'll work.
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> !freedom
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> slugboy1122: see above, everyone should be free to do that.
[20:56] <greenman> I'm having all kinds of trouble getting ubuntu to work on my mac mini.  14.04.
[20:56] <greenman> Can I just install 12.04 and update it from there?
[20:56] <greenman> (assuming 12.04 works and has efi support)
[20:57] <w4|k3r> greenman, Try it out
[20:57] <w4|k3r> greenman, I would suggest doing the installation afresh from 14.04
[20:58] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: there are several; one is vnc4server
[20:58] <greenman> what do you mean from 14.04?
[20:58] <w4|k3r> greenman,
[20:58] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: you can do: "apt-cache search vnc" to locate packages
[20:58] <w4|k3r> you can do the installation from the 14.04 image
[20:59] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: or you can use the text-based GUI utility aptitude
[20:59] <w4|k3r> greenman, or update from 12.04 - should not create any problems
[20:59] <greenman> w4|k3r: how do you do that?  I didn't see that option.
[20:59] <w4|k3r> greenman, update from 12.04? or directly installing from 14.04
[21:00] <w4|k3r> greenman, which one do you want to know
[21:00] <Voyage> too bad that tightvnc is not recognised as service so i can just sudo service tightvnc stop/start
[21:00] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,
[21:01] <jcstarken> TJ: are you there
[21:02] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Let's prepare to remove the Nvidia driver, and install the oipen soirce driver, ok ? 1st step -> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup <-.
[21:02] <greenman> w4|k3r: installing 12.04 from the 14.04 image.
[21:02] <e^> lol
[21:02] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok here goes
[21:03] <w4|k3r> greenman, sorry if I sounded wrong, but you can't install 12.04 from 14.04 disk
[21:03] <brisbin_> t
[21:03] <w4|k3r> But you can definitely upgrade after installing Ubuntu 12.04
[21:03] <greenman> Okay, I dkin't think so.
[21:03] <jcstarken> Beldar: you there?
[21:04] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,
[21:04] <Voyage> zerowaitstate,
[21:04] <Voyage> too bad that tightvnc is not recognised as service so i can just sudo service tightvnc stop/start
[21:04] <greenman> okay, so now I just need to find out if 12.04 has support for efi
[21:04] <Voyage> sory for repead
[21:04] <Voyage> t
[21:04] <theTroy> Any solution to compiz taking up 100% of one core fully?
[21:04] <theTroy> ubuntu 14.04
[21:04] <OerHeks> greenman, did you check the mactel pages?
[21:04] <OerHeks>  !mac
[21:04] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: yes?
[21:05] <Aossi> so i have a bit of a problemo
[21:05] <Bashing-om> andreas_: 2nd step -> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current nvidia-settings <- .
[21:05] <Aossi> got no usb to make a boot drive and no internet at the house and got 2 computers i need to boot into ubuntu
[21:05] <Aossi> how the hell do i do that
[21:05] <fridaynext> anybody here use a CLI email client exclusively?
[21:06] <OerHeks> Aossi, burn a cd/dvd
[21:06] <Aossi> no cdr or dvdr
[21:06] <andreas_> Bashing-om: "mv: cannot stat '/etc/x11/xorg.conf': no such file or directory"
[21:06] <w4|k3r> fridaynext, Had created one using python long time back
[21:06] <Aossi> all i have for media is a micro sd card and adapter
[21:07] <tfzzr> any from serbia?
[21:07] <OerHeks> Aossi, that could work too, if it is recognized as a bootdevice
[21:07] <jcstarken> Aossi: go to the library and download it to your drive there
[21:07] <w4|k3r> fridaynext, but never used the mail option
[21:07] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok, the 2nd step is doing things
[21:07] <fridaynext> w4|k3r: ah. thanks.
[21:08] <Aossi> x.x if i could go to a library. im using my phone now.
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> Aossi: pxe boot?
[21:08] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok it finished and I have the command line again. what's next
[21:08] <Aossi> what is pxe boot?
[21:08] <zerowaitstate> Voyage: you have to install the vnc server software first using "sudo apt-get install vnc4server"
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> !pxe | Aossi
[21:08] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Humm, the plot thickens.. just to make sure, any output from terminal command -> ls -la /etc/x11/xorg.conf <- ? OK, on step two, will hold off on step 3, pending the ls commnad return.
[21:09] <Voyage> Zeroedout,  k
[21:09] <Bashing-om> andreas_:  ls -la /etc/x11/xorg.conf ??
[21:09] <Aossi> i see nada for the !pxe
[21:09] <w4|k3r> fridaynext, By the way are you trying to configure postfix/mailutils
[21:09] <Aossi> !pxe
[21:09] <Aossi> >.>
[21:09] <SchrodingersScat> Aossi: it is a network boot
[21:10] <andreas_> Bashing-om: "ls: cannot access /etc/x11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory"
[21:10] <Joe_knock> A bit off-topic, but how do I make my username unclickable on XChat IRC?
[21:10] <fridaynext> w4|k3r: not necessarily. Just bored with my current client (Postbox) and considering switching to CLI.
[21:10] <fridaynext> w4|k3r: actually, i'm almost definitely not configuring postfix/mailutils again. Already have that running on my remote server.
[21:10] <Aossi> ah well that might work if i had a network to boot too and ubuntu on the two laptops i need to put ubuntu on hense why i was exploring the idea of using my phones msd card
[21:11] <OerHeks> Joe_knock, not. what is your problem with that?
[21:11] <w4|k3r> fridaynext, I think you can try out mutt : http://blog.nguyenvq.com/blog/2010/07/10/how-to-set-up-sending-mail-from-the-command-line/
[21:11] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Acceptable ( do not know why that file does not exist, reason Nvidia no workie !) .. step 3 -> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau <-.
[21:11] <greenman> OerHeks: I did when I started this whole mess...
[21:11] <Joe_knock> OerHeks: There isn't. I just see some people who have usernames that you can't click on and would like to know how they do it.
[21:12] <idahogirl> hi    ?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> idahogirl, You can get right to support issues with questions if you like. ;)
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> to the channel
[21:13] <totesmuhgoats> well, looks like no upgrade to 14.04 for me, my 12.02 had some issues during the upgrade process
[21:13] <totesmuhgoats> fortunately i imaged my disk before i started
[21:14] <idahogirl> like what ?
[21:14] <totesmuhgoats> idahogirl, first issue i can't remember, second one was something broken in glibc
[21:14] <andreas_> Bashing-om: it's saying it failed to resolve the host sites for the files. then it suggested trying to run "apt-get update" so I did but it said the same thing and at the end says "some index files failed to download. they have been ignored, or old ones used instead"
[21:17] <rick_swe> Hi
[21:17] <rick_swe> How do i delete a user with the terminal?
[21:18] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I just tried the other suggestion it had which was trying "apt-get update --fix-missing" and it says "E: could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: permission denied) E: unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: permission denied) E: unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"
[21:18] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Oh dear, the problems keep piling up, ok, let's fix the package manager - and come back to this. Pastebin the output for me of -> sudo apt-get update <- and then we do next in the procedure,
[21:18] <rick_swe> How do i delete a user with the terminal?
[21:18] <Joe_knock> Rick_swe: Do you have other users?
[21:19] <w4|k3r> rick_swe, sudo userdel newuser
[21:19] <rick_swe> yes! and I didnt create it my self!
[21:19] <vilambit_> what created it?
[21:19] <w4|k3r> rick_swe, sudo rm -rf /home/newuser
[21:19] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Can only have one instance of the package manager active at any given time. Wait till all other instance of package managment complete.
[21:19] <vilambit_> it might be required for some application
[21:20] <andreas_> Bashing-om: everything was done when I did
[21:20] <rick_swe> i installed metasploit, and the ssl server..
[21:20] <Jordan_U> rick_swe: What user are you trying to delete, and when did it appear?
[21:20] <andreas_> Bashing-om: how do I pastebin
[21:20] <rick_swe> it appeared after i installed metasploit
[21:20] <rick_swe> the user name is : postgres
[21:21] <vilambit_> rick_swe: metasploit may need it to run, so deleting it may break it
[21:21] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Thers a lock on 'dpkg" /// humm .. lemme have a moment to ponder.
[21:21] <w4|k3r> rick_swe, that is the postgreSQL server that is required by metasploit
[21:21] <rick_swe> alright :)
[21:21] <Jordan_U> rick_swe: Do *not* delete that user.
[21:22] <rick_swe> i thought it was something about the sql server. but really weird i thought that it created a second user
[21:22] <Joe_knock> Isn't that postgres user not a normal user like any other on the system? (I could be wrong)
[21:22] <rick_swe> thanks for the answers guys
[21:22] <mitrovarr> thanks for the help, everyone. I think I'm going to try a couple more options and if that doesn't work, hit everything with statifier.
[21:22] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok
[21:23] <rick_swe> lol im the only one that use this computer..
[21:23] <skinux> How can I get an easy-on-the-eyes list of all software installed that wouldn't be present in an out-of-the-box installation?
[21:23] <Bashing-om> andreas_: To use pastenin, go the the site in the topic here, and copy paste, and relay the URL that results in the adress bar back to the channel.
[21:24] <Joe_knock> skinux, does this include only software you've downloaded from the software centre?
[21:24] <Jordan_U> !clone | skinux: This may help get you closer
[21:24] <zerowaitstate> rick_swe: postgres is the default user for the postgres database when it is installed. Unlike mysql, postgres uses unix accounts rather than it's own.
[21:24] <Mrokii> Hello. LightDM doesn't accept my password anymore (says it is wrong). Even though it is correct. I confirmed it by switching to a TTY and changing the password (which asks me for my old password first).
[21:24] <vjandyxxx> hi
[21:24] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok I feel stupid, I don't know how to do that
[21:24] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: Does your password use any non-ascii characters?
[21:25] <rick_swe> so its cool that the user is there,, no problem?
[21:25] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: Nope.
[21:25] <vjandyxxx> ada yang indonesia?
[21:25] <Joe_knock> rick_swe: You could probably give the user a nice password
[21:25] <Bashing-om> andreas_: lock on 'dpkg': let's look -> ps aux <- do you see apt, dpkg, synaptic or update-manager or software center in that output ?
[21:25] <rick_swe> how lol?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: Do you have an encrypted home directory?
[21:26] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: No.
[21:26] <zerowaitstate> rick_swe: give the user a default shell of /usr/sbin/nologin. That will prevent interactive logins via SSH/telnet/terminal if you are worried.
[21:26] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: I can still log in at a TTY (I just confirmed that).
[21:27] <Joe_knock> Well I can't check right now as my browser is crashing, rick-swe, but the way to do it should be simple in Terminal
[21:27] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: Caps lock?
[21:27] <rick_swe> great! you just nailed it, i am worried. i will try that
[21:27] <zerowaitstate> rick_swe: to change a unix account password, do: "sudo passwd <accountname>"
[21:27] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: No. I just switched to another TTY and logged in with my regular password. Just LightDM doesn't seem to accept it.
[21:28] <andreas_> Bashing-om: nop
[21:28] <andreas_> e
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: Caps lock isn't preserved between TTYs (at least wasn't when I tested it just now) so you could have caps lock off in the TTY and on in X.
[21:28] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Nope, not to know is not a sin.. you too as we did can learn. the link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/; go to it and just copy and paste what you want for the content and hit the paste button. the adress in the adress bar will change to relect a new URL. pass that url back to us.
[21:28] <TJ-> Mrokii: Have you tried tapping Caps Lock and/or Num Lock ?
[21:28] <jcstarken> ok 12.04lts wanting to boot to a usb drive that has 14.04 lts on it for some reason machine keeps going to internal hdd not usb, I have checked bios and it is set to external first
[21:29] <Mrokii> TJ-: I think I did, but I'll try again.
[21:29] <rick_swe> i didnt understand this: give the user a default shell of /usr/sbin/nologin
[21:29] <TJ-> Mrokii: does it report bad password in any way, or does it start trying to log-in and then fail and return to the greeter?
[21:29] <Jordan_U> jcstarken: UEFI or BIOS?
[21:29] <w4|k3r> jcstarken, During boot I think you can choose where to boot from - F8/12/ESC might be of help
[21:30] <jcstarken> Jordan_U: bios
[21:30] <Joe_knock> rick_swe what he means is that you prevent people from logging in remotely to that account.
[21:30] <Mrokii> TJ-: LightDM gives me "invalid password. please try again". But I can log in with the password in any TTY.
[21:30] <rick_swe> yes yes i understand that. but what command will i use in the terminal?
[21:30] <zerowaitstate> rick_swe: sudo chsh <accountname>
[21:30] <rick_swe> thanks :)
[21:30] <TJ-> Mrokii: OK, look in "/var/log/auth.log" in case PAM is having a spazz!
[21:30] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Anything interesting in 'ps aux' ?? no, then let's reboot and see if -> sudo apt-get update <- will run.
[21:31] <icsu> hello
[21:31] <Joe_knock> Hello icsu. Feel free to ask your question
[21:33] <Mrokii> TJ-: Is there something specific I should look for in that file?
[21:34] <TJ-> Mrokii: any indications that some specific PAM module is refusing the login
[21:35] <icsu> alright
[21:36] <skinux> I'm not trying to clone my system. Ubuntu keeps complaining about low disk space. Only possibility is too much software and/or software documentation installed. However, I cannot remember every software package I've installed.
[21:36] <icsu> I'm having problem with Thunderbird, I don't know how to minimize on systray and get notification on new emails. I searched engine but every post is almost outdated.
[21:36] <Mrokii> TJ-: yes, there's something about PAM. "pam_unix(lightdm:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=1000 tty= ruser= rhost= user=stephan"
[21:37] <Mrokii> TJ-: This is only the first line, there are a few more.
[21:38] <TJ-> Mrokii: if you can pastebin an extract (if there's nothing sensitive in it) that would help
[21:38] <Bashing-om> skinux: Often times it is a partition that is full, most likely /boot. What returns form -> df -h , df -i <- ??
[21:39] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok I got disconnected and reconnected here for some reason, so if you said anything I didn't see it
[21:39] <rick_swe> hi again. i changed the passwd for the user postgres but i couldnt login using the password i just gave that user.. ;,,
[21:39] <Mrokii> TJ-: I'm not sure how I can do that in a TTY. I don't use them often and almost never use any text-only browser.
[21:39] <Jordan_U> rick_swe: Why are you trying to log in as postres?
[21:40] <Bashing-om> andreas_: How far back ? did you see about -> ps aux <- ?? and what to look for ?
[21:40] <andreas_> Bashing-om: yeah, and then I said that none of those were there
[21:40] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, and did you reboot ?
[21:41] <rick_swe> so i know that only i can access that account...
[21:41] <ikonia> the postgres account isn't an interactive account though is it ?
[21:41] <TJ-> Mrokii: "grep -A 10 'pam_unix(lightdm:auth): authentication failure' > /tmp/temp.txt " ... then "cat /tmp/temp.txt" and assure yourself there is nothing sensitive. Then "pastebinit /tmp/temp.txt"
[21:41] <ikonia> it's just the account used for running the postgres master process
[21:41] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I'm assuming that's the part I missed, so no. question, what's the command to do that? because I don't know it, so I've just been doing it manually by shutting down with the power button
[21:41] <rick_swe> okey. and that means ? :P
[21:41] <udo> hello, how can i change in qiana the display
[21:42] <udo> i installed mate 1.8 manuallz
[21:42] <zerowaitstate> rick_swe: did you do that chsh command I gave you earlier?
[21:42] <udo> cuase there was a mess with older mate packages
[21:42] <TJ-> Mrokii: typo!!! ... "sudo grep -A 10 'pam_unix(lightdm:auth): authentication failure' /var/log/auth.log | tee /tmp/temp.txt " ... assure yourself there is nothing sensitive. Then "pastebinit /tmp/temp.txt"
[21:42] <jcw4> what is the recommended PC VNC client for Trusty? RealVNC doesn't seem to be able to connect?
[21:42] <Mrokii> grep -A 10 "pam_unix(lightdm:auth): authentication failure" > /tmp/temp.txt
[21:42] <zerowaitstate> rick_swe: 'cause if you did, you won't be able to login as postgres. That was the point.
[21:43] <Mrokii> ooops
[21:43] <rick_swe> yes,..
[21:43] <udo> now i like to have the mate menue, at the moment it looks like the standard old gtk2 menu
[21:43] <Jordan_U> rick_swe: zerowaitstate: You shouldn't be changing the password, or using chsh on the posrtres account. It's not a user that you're supposed to ever "log in" as.
[21:43] <Mrokii> TJ-: One moment, will try.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OH no !!!!!!! .. try from the terminal -> sudo shutdown -P now <- hard power off is a horrible thing to do to the operating system, mean mean things can resukt ! .. now we got to check the file system.
[21:43] <rick_swe> hmm okey
[21:43] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok, glad I asked. doing that now
[21:44] <rick_swe> the username is postgres.
[21:44] <rick_swe> but anyway. i think its OK now.
[21:44] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, now the 1st order of businees is the check the file system. One can not do so from the operating system. DO you have on-hand the liveDVD ?
[21:45] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I'm not even sure I know what that is
[21:45] <antonio_> For some reason a LOT of the links I'm seeing on Facebook and various other sites are getting some weird strings attached to the end of them such as http://www.westernjournalism.com/a-letter-to-michelle-obama/#GDgxoyvXUdhHiuLX.99
[21:45] <antonio_> is there any way I can discover what is causing this?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> andreas_: It is the disk (USB) that you used ti intially install ubuntu.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: andreas_: The whole point of a journaling filesystem is that you don't have to run a full fsck after a power failure.
[21:46] <rick_swe> metasploit seems to work fine... so no problems ..yet
[21:47] <Bashing-om> andreas_: ti *to ....
[21:47] <andreas_> Bashing-om: oh ok I thought so but I wasn't sure. yeah I have it. it's a disk for installing 9.10
[21:47] <ikonia> blindly running metasploit = failure
[21:47] <jcstarken> ok tried f8 f12 and esc nothing changed just open up the boot loader for 12.04 did not see the 14.04 listed
[21:47] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: I agree, but a number of power cycles scares the pants off me.
[21:48] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I really hope I'm not gonna have to reinstall & wipe everything.
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: If you really want to run fsck, you can do so without a LiveCD/USB with "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now".
[21:49] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: // andreas_ : humm, recon a 9.10 release is good enough to file system check 12.04 ?? I have my doubts.
[21:49] <Mrokii> TJ-: Okay, that gave me this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7539515/
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Yeah, done it many times, sure slipped my mind this time !! heaps of thanks !
[21:51] <TJ-> Mrokii: It appears the issue is winbind (The Samba component) because of "pam_winbind(lightdm:auth): request wbcLogonUser failed: WBC_ERR_AUTH_ERROR, PAM error: PAM_USER_UNKNOWN (10), NTSTATUS: NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER,"
[21:51] <Bashing-om> andreas_: See Jordan_U's last and please do that, for my piece of mind.
[21:51] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok
[21:52] <Mrokii> TJ-: And do you know what I can do about that?
[21:52] <TJ-> Mrokii: It appears as if your system is trying to authenticate against a Windows or Samba server
[21:52] <ubuntuaddicted> my usb mouse doesn't work after a resume from suspend, not sure how to fix. i currently just unplug it and plug it back in
[21:54] <Mrokii> TJ-: Okay... but the question is why and how I can change that. I've never had that problem before. :-(
[21:54] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok now what
[21:55] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Bacck to the package manager, does -> sudo apt-get update <- run clean ??
[21:56] <andreas_> Bashing-om: no it's the same thing as before
[21:57] <croftworth> Hi guys..
[21:57] <rick_swe> hi
[21:57] <TJ-> Mrokii: I assume you've at some point installed samba which has installed its winbind component. I've never ever checked whether that log entry is expected and can be ignored if a Windows/Samba authentication server isn't configured, but that's the obvious issue. The other issue could be the "unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so" - but that's a Kubuntu/KDE option
[21:57] <croftworth> Has anyone successfully run theos on ubuntu?
[21:57] <Bashing-om> andreas_: " same thing as before" as in there is a lock, or as it runs but with errors ?
[21:57] <Voyage> any help with this vnc server ? http://pastie.org/9232264#1,3-4,6,25,34,42-44,46-47
[21:58] <Boscop> how can i find out which version of jack i have, to install the right dev package?
[21:59] <andreas_> Bashing-om: it's the whole "failed to fetch (site) could not resolve (site)" like before
[21:59] <art1101> wow
[21:59] <Mrokii> TJ-: I think I have kde installed but I am not using it. What if I deinstalled some component of KDE? And I guess just restarting won't solve that issue.
[21:59] <art1101> проверка
[22:00] <TJ-> Mrokii: No, that might just make things worse.
[22:00] <Mrokii> TJ-: Damn. Any tips on what I could try?
[22:00] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, not tooo bad, open up the pastebin site, and paste the entire contents of the result from -> sudo apt-get update <- and let's look at what the package manager is telling us, and then take corrective action.
[22:01] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I still don't know how to do that. is there a command, or...
[22:02] <TJ-> Mrokii: what does this show? "ls -l $HOME/.Xauthority"
[22:04] <Mrokii> TJ-: It shows a regular file-entry as expected from ls. Looks normal to me.
[22:04] <TJ-> Mrokii: Tell me the precise permissions and ownership it shows
[22:04] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, ya must have dropped out befor I gave that one. once more, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ , paste the desired content, hit the paste button when done and the URL in the address bar will change to a new URL. Pass that new URL pack to us and I will open it up and see what you pasted into pastebin.
[22:05] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok I guess I'm confused then. is that in this computer or the one we're trying to fix. because if it's that one then I don't know how to do anything in terminal. like, at all
[22:05] <Mrokii> TJ-: Permission is "-rw-------", ownership is "stephan stephan".
[22:06] <willwh> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && some command | pastebinit
[22:06] <willwh> :)
[22:06] <link> hey everyone
[22:06] <TJ-> Mrokii: OK, that would appear to be good :)
[22:06] <Mrokii> TJ-: Well, that is what the above ls command gives me.
[22:06] <Mrokii> TJ-: Yeah, thought so.
[22:06] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Oh ! .. I thought we were on the same same computer ! You have no internet connectivity on the box we are working on ??
[22:07] <Mrokii> TJ-: Should I possibly try to stop/restart lightDM?
[22:08] <TJ-> Mrokii: No, it looks like a PAM issue. Do you get a result from "grep pam_winbind /etc/pam.d/*" ?
[22:08] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I do, but how would I even be on here with that computer when I can't even access my desktop lol my entire screen is terminal. I'm not sure how else to describe it
[22:09] <Ranieri_> woah
[22:10] <Ranieri_> There's a computer we can telnet into?
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> andreas_  try left ctrl arrow left
[22:10] <Ranieri_> :O
[22:10] <Mrokii> TJ-: Yes. I used pastebinit again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7539613/
[22:10] <andreas_> monkeydust: on where?
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> andreas_  or ctrl-alt F7
[22:11] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Hey, I can have dumb-ass attacks ! no GUI, no web-browse. OK let's try this and I do mean try ( package manager messed up may not be able to ) -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .
[22:14] <TJ-> Mrokii: I'm not entirely sure if those winbind PAM entries are the cause, or why it has just started, unless you've recently installed some package that depends on that
[22:14] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ......ok I am the epitome of retarded. I totally forgot my father unplugged the internet thing from this computer & put it in his. one sec
[22:15] <Mrokii> TJ-: I haven't installed anything in the last few hours, and Ubuntu has gone into sleep mode or whatever it's called several times since the last time I have installed something. I was always able to log in again, just not this time.
[22:16] <TJ-> Mrokii: Lets see if there are any winbind/pam_winbind experts around
[22:16] <andreas_> Bashing-om: f i n a l l y we're getting somewhere. I ran sudo apt-get update again and everything was fetched.
[22:18] <Mrokii> TJ-: in another chatroom?
[22:18] <udo> how do i change to mate layout/desktop on mint 17
[22:19] <TJ-> Mrokii: have you installed 'wine' or 'cifs-utils' - they both depend on winbind which depends on libpam-winbind ?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Good deal, as we make progress; now do -> sudo apt-get update | pastebin <- in your terminal will be returned a URL, pass that URL back to us.
[22:22] <Mrokii> I think I have wine installed, but not sure, and not sure about cifs-utils either. Can you tell me how to check? I assume I have to use some kind of apt-get command or something.
[22:22] <TJ-> Mrokii: "apt-cache policy wine"
[22:23] <Mrokii> TJ-: I could deinstall wine as I rarely use it anyway.
[22:23] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Sheeshh getting tired -- should be pastebinit ! -> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit <- .
[22:23] <Mrokii> TJ-: That says "installed: (none)" so I assume it isn't installed.
[22:23] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok
[22:23] <TJ-> Mrokii: I think that is overkill for this issue, especially as we can't be sure that libpam_winbind is the issue. Some PAM modules are only 'optional' and their failure doesn't mean the entire authentication attempt fails
[22:24] <Mrokii> TJ-: Anyway, the same output (the first line) for cifs-utils.
[22:25] <TJ-> Mrokii: The fact you're able to log-in at the terminal but not via the GUI suggests it isn't PAM, but I'm still suspicious!
[22:25] <andreas_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7539728/
[22:25] <ubuntuaddicted> regarding the waking up of my usb mouse after a resume, i figured it out myself. here's the solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226734
[22:25] <Bashing-om> andreas_: looking at 7539728/. brb.
[22:25] <Mrokii> TJ-: I just remembered that I installed wine, but it is called "wine-compholio".
[22:27] <TJ-> Mrokii: was it installed very recently, i.e. just before this problem started?
[22:27] <TJ-> Mrokii: if we can pin something as related in time that is what we should focus on
[22:27] <Bashing-om> andreas_: That all looks good. is this " Reading package lists..." the end of the out put ?
[22:28] <andreas_> Bashing-om: mm hmm.
[22:28] <tota-x> server fr0g.mil.nf 6969
[22:28] <Bashing-om> andreas_: I had expected to see something like this "Reading package lists... Done
[22:29] <Mrokii> TJ-: Nope it has been installed for at least some days, maybe even weeks, but I never used it.
[22:29] <andreas_> Bashing-om: yes, that's what it says.
[22:29] <TJ-> Mrokii: OK... that doesn't seem like then. I'm going to be really silly and suggest "rm $HOME/.Xauthority" :D
[22:29] <Mrokii> TJ-: The only thing I did was updating some packages, but I haven't done anything to the system for several hours.
[22:30] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Great then, next run -> sudo apt-get upgrade <- ..
[22:30] <Mrokii> TJ-: Actually, that solution is what I have found via my mobile phone on some website and was going to ask if that would be a valid option.
[22:30] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok it's going
[22:32] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, we are looking for something similar "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded." .
[22:33] <andreas_> Bashing-om: it's still upgrading. and if it's at the top then I can't scroll up
[22:33] <Bashing-om> andreas_: All we care about will be at the end. so far so good.
[22:34] <TJ-> Mrokii: yeah. the permissions looked OK but the file itself might be causing issues. Usually it's when the file gets owned by root and can't be deleted by the user's new session.
[22:35] <Mrokii> TJ-: So I should delete the file? And then what, reboot?
[22:35] <TJ-> Mrokii: remove it, then try logging in! No reboot required :)
[22:35] <Mrokii> TJ-: Okay, one moment.
[22:36] <Bashing-om> andreas_: How are you taking your crash course in "ubuntu system management" ??
[22:37] <Mrokii> TJ-: Oh wow, that worked!
[22:37] <Mrokii> TJ-: I was able to log in again!
[22:37] <Mrokii> Thank you! :-)
[22:37] <andreas_> Bashing-om: with the exception of the retardation with the internet on my part, it's been fun lol
[22:37] <TJ-> Mrokii: Ahhh darn! I was going to suggest that earlier when I asked the permissions, but when they were the user's own they looked correct
[22:38] <Mrokii> TJ-: No worries, you were trying to help and we solved the problem. Thanks again.
[22:38] <TJ-> Mrokii: you're welcome :) At least you've learned something about PAM :p
[22:38] <Lachezar> Hey all. I am trying to migrate some cron tasks from FreeBSD to Ubuntu Server. I could not find a replacement for lockf command. What can I use instead?
[22:39] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Hey, it is a whole new world .. welcome to the power of the Command Line Interface.
[22:39] <Mrokii> TJ-: Yeah, that it's dangerous. :-p
[22:39] <TJ-> Mrokii: :D
[22:39] <Mrokii> I'll need to investigate it further and see what it actually does.
[22:39] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I've always wanted to learn things like this, I'm enjoying it
[22:39] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ah, it finished
[22:40] <bizancio> I see blue people... in .avi videos :O
[22:40] <Bashing-om> andreas_: While we wait for 'upgrade' to complete; oh ok ...all looks clean now ? no complaints ?
[22:40] <bizancio> I tried some solutions on Internet but didn't work. With VLC or any video player.
[22:41] <TJ-> Mrokii: "man 5 pam.conf" :)
[22:42] <OerHeks> !find lockf
[22:43] <andreas_> Bashing-om: how would I know? do I restart, or...
[22:43] <darkelfjuggalo> in the console how do I pull up a list of WiFi networks
[22:43] <Mrokii> TJ-: Thanks, I'll definitely have a look. And I'll add that solution to my ever-growing list of Linux-Tips. :-)
[22:43] <Bashing-om> andreas_: If you do not see warning and errors .. then we are good to go.
[22:44] <andreas_> Bashing-om: oh, ok then yes, we're good
[22:45] <Mrokii> TJ-: And I've learned some new neat tricks for the terminal. Thanks for that as well. :-)
[22:46] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Did we do -> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current nvidia-settings <- ? if not do so now ( meanwhile back at the ranch ) .
[22:47] <andreas_> Bashing-om: lol I did do that earlier but why not, just in case it was one of those ones that didn't go through because of lack of internet. it's been a few hours now, I don't remember
[22:48] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Me too, wont hurt to run it again, if the system says the files do not exist, so much the better, and then we do the install steps.
[22:48] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok, it gave me a list of packages that are no longer required and then says to use apt-get autoremove to remove them. under that says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded."
[22:49] <Bashing-om> OK, back to package management: do -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- to deal with those "10 not upgraded" .
[22:50] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok. what about the ones that are no longer required?
[22:50] <darkelfjuggalo> how do I pull up availble wifi networks in console
[22:51] <theadmin> darkelfjuggalo: iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:51] <Bashing-om> andreas_: when the 'dist-upgrade' completes do -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- .. for a bit of housecleaning.
[22:51] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: "iwlist wlan0 scan" (assuming the device is wlan0)
[22:51] <andreas_> Bashing-om: oh ok cool
[22:52] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I gotta know, how long did it take you to learn & remember all these?
[22:52] <darkelfjuggalo> it pulls up one how do I connect to that network (not yet configured)
[22:54] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OH my, Now that is a long story, ya bring yer lunch ?.. I got interested in computers way back in the later 60's // Sometimes what I think I know ( from other operating systems) bites me in the rear section real bad. It contiues to this day to be a process of learning.
[22:54] <martinjo84> TJ-, funny i dont have iwlist in my repost. 14.04
[22:55] <TJ-> martinjo84: it's in "wireless-tools" package
[22:55] <martinjo84> TJ-, found it :=)
[22:55] <andreas_> Bashing-om: 60's? damn, no wonder you remember all this, had all this time to learn it lol
[22:55] <darkelfjuggalo> im needing this because I was upgrading to 14.04 but got 13.13 and lost my graphics drivers
[22:56] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Yeah, giving my age away ! .. still learning even after all these years.
[22:56] <martinjo84> TJ-, i had to run iwlist scanning instead :D
[22:56] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok, it's done. and it is completely true what they say, you never stop learning
[22:57] <darkelfjuggalo> TJ how do I connect to the wifi I found?
[22:57] <TJ-> martinjo84: You can use just "sc" - it parses commands to match the minimum differential from all other commands it supports
[22:57] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, it ran all claen, no sassy response from the package manager ? we onto the driver install stage ?
[22:57] <Baako_> hey guys. how do i uninstall netbeans
[22:57] <darkelfjuggalo> baako is netbeans the package name?
[22:57] <andreas_> Bashing-om: lol sassy. nope, no sassback here. were we going to do the autoremove still?
[22:58] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: does your GUI already 'know' the Wifi network you want to connect to?
[22:58] <Baako_> got not idea
[22:58] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Yeah,, do that and let's see if the system is still in a happy happy state of mind.
[22:58] <phunyguy> darkelfjuggalo, the nmcli command is the command line interface to NetworkManager
[22:58] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: If you saved it as a system connection, you should find it listed in the Network Manager config files at "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/"
[22:58] <Baako_> i cant find it in /usr/local
[22:59] <darkelfjuggalo> no it doesn't... I cant load my unity
[23:00] <Bashing-om> andreas_: When we get the open source graphics driver installed, remind me to check and make sure that Nvidia did not black list it !
[23:00] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: in which case you can do "nmcli con up <id>" where <id> is the id given to the connection in the config file
[23:00] <ailan> help
[23:01] <darkelfjuggalo> essid?
[23:01] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok, will do. I have an unrelated question
[23:01] <phunyguy> darkelfjuggalo, nmcli dev wifi list
[23:01] <ailan> sorry, thank, no problem man sorry
[23:01] <darkelfjuggalo> ailan help only works for police....just ask
[23:01] <Bashing-om> andreas_: I may have an unrelated answer, all one can do is ask and see.
[23:01] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: typo...  "nmcli con up id <id>" where <id> is the id given to the connection in the config file in "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/"
[23:02] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: You can get the id's with "nmcli con list"
[23:02] <phunyguy> TJ-, darkelfjuggalo also `nmcli con` will give you the UUIDs
[23:02] <phunyguy> yeah that
[23:02] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: The 'id' is the NAME column of "nmcli con list"
[23:02] <andreas_> Bashing-om: you're fun, I like you. my question is regarding my external hard drive. it doesn't seem to mount, though the hard drive responds to being plugged in, it never shows up anywhere on the screen or in the menus. I'm not sure how to go about mounting it
[23:03] <andreas_> Bashing-om: also, the cleanup is done
[23:03] <Bashing-om> andreas_: well, what is the file system format of that hard drive ? - I am not in love with Windows - but ....
[23:04] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I mostly use it on linux, but it might be windows. not a fan of windows myself
[23:04] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Let's see what results -> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau <- .
[23:04] <darkelfjuggalo> I'm connected to the network but I can't access the internet (my phone has to do a webpage gateway instead of a password)
[23:05] <Baako_> can someone tell me a good editor for linux
[23:05] <andreas_> Bashing-om: says it's already the newest version
[23:05] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Hard drive; when we get ya fixed here we can deal with the hard drive, geting ya to the desk top kinda has my full attention.
[23:05] <andreas_> Bashing-om: for me as well
[23:06] <darkelfjuggalo> is there anyway to bypass the webpage in the console(I do not have a comnand line browser)
[23:09] <andreas_> Bashing-om: what comes after the cleanup again?
[23:10] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, lets look and make sure that nvidia has not black listed nouveau. run -> grep -ri nouveau /etc/modprobe* <- nothing back is good !
[23:12] <andreas_> Bashing-om: it says blacklist and blacklist lbm- and then says alias and alias lbm- for nouveau is off
[23:18] <Bashing-om> andreas_: I "think" that is fine, ok, finally do -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- .. looking for errors, and we do not want to see 'Nvidia' as a present module.
[23:18] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok will do
[23:19] <andreas_> Bashing-om: doing nothing is a good thing?
[23:23] <Nilkanth> Hi.
[23:23] <Bashing-om> andreas_: yepper, that is a real good thing. in linux from the CLI, a no reponse to a command is the system just doing what it was told to do and no sas about it.
[23:23] <frlttrwrd2> is there a way to mute all sound unless headphones are plugged in? or disable a notebooks internals speakers entirely. (kubuntu 14.04)
[23:24] <andreas_> Bashing-om: good to know/hear. ok, so what's next
[23:25] <Bashing-om> andreas_:  The moment of truth, reboot, and let's - fingers crossed - boot to the GUI !
[23:25] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok~
[23:25] <andreas_> Bashing-om: remind me of the reboot command lol
[23:26] <lenswipe> hey guys
[23:26] <lenswipe> is ubuntu server available as a 32 bit download?
[23:26] <nial74> reboot -f
[23:26] <nial74> lenswipe: Yes but it's hard to find.
[23:26] <lenswipe> nial74, ....okay?
[23:27] <nial74> lenswipe: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[23:27] <nial74> lenswipe: X86-32 server is there
[23:27] <meowkitty666> test
[23:27] <lenswipe> nial74, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?country=GB&version=14.04&architecture=i386
[23:27] <lenswipe> is that it?
[23:28] <nial74> Probably. It's on the page I linked you.
[23:28] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Hey not a problem - tattoo on the eye lid, good one to keep -> sudo shutdown -P now <- more general and let the system decide on what it wants to do -> sudo shutdown -h now <- .
[23:29] <andreas_> Bashing-om: oh ok cool I remembered it~
[23:29] <atrius> how the devil do you load Xorg modules now that xorg.conf is more or less deprecated?
[23:29] <Megabyte> Hi, guys
[23:29] <Megabyte> Where are ubuntu's instruction manual's source files?
[23:29] <SchrodingersScat> !info man | Megabyte
[23:29] <SchrodingersScat> hmm
[23:29] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok,,, moment of truth here. turning it back on
[23:29] <Megabyte> ShrodingersScat, not the man pages
[23:30] <Megabyte> ShrodingersScat, Ubuntu's "Getting Started" manual
[23:30] <popj> whoami
[23:31] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Are you aware that the system comes with a manual ? ,, oh to just reboot -> sudo shutdown -r now <- .
[23:32] <andreas_> Bashing-om: well... still sent straight to terminal...
[23:34] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Well, that ain't good ! Does the sytem see the card ? What returns from -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- .
[23:34] <Bashing-om> *system
[23:34] <Guest64683> he
[23:36] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I don't see it recognizing the card I put in, but it's recognizing the motherboard. (the motherboard has a vga and hdmi input as well)
[23:37] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Are we talking hybrid grahics here ?
[23:40] <andreas_> Bashing-om: I'm not sure. I'll try to explain what I have. the motherboard has a graphics card built in but when I plug the monitor into it, the screen recognizes it's plugged in but it doesn't display anything, which is why I have a pci graphics card in there. it's how it's been since I built the computer, which was maybe... 6 years ago?
[23:40] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Let me see what you are seeing -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit <- .
[23:42] <pakcjo> which ruby version is on 12.04.4 LTS?
[23:42] <bekks> !info ruby precise
[23:43] <andreas_> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540094
[23:43] <pakcjo> !info ruby trusty
[23:44] <pakcjo> can I have that 1.9.3 now?
[23:44] <NastyNaz> I'm getting errors because rootfs has 4kb of available hdd space left. Yet /home/ has 682gb (different drive). How do I give more space to rootfs?
[23:46] <Bashing-om> andreas_: looking at 7540094 .
[23:46] <pakcjo> when is trusty available?
[23:46] <NastyNaz> I'm getting errors because rootfs has 4kb of available hdd space left. Yet /home/ has 682gb (different drive). How do I give more space to rootfs?
[23:48] <andreas_> see now, those thAt show up there, thAt's the motherboArd I'm pretty sure. the one I put in there is A different model
[23:48] <andreas_> Bashing-om: yet the one that's enabling me to even do all this is the one I put in there. when I plug the monitor into the motherboard's port, nothing is displayed
[23:48] <arthurdent> very edgy typing style
[23:49] <Bashing-om> andreas_: YUK ! that ain't at all right "Kernel driver in use: nvidia" what returns -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- .
[23:49] <andreas_> oops. forgot to not use the quirk like I had been this whole time. it's become reflex lol
[23:49] <andreas_> Bashing-om: ok one sec
[23:50] <aman> hi
[23:50] <Guest57856> is there any channel for php?
[23:51] <andreas_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540140
[23:51] <bekks> Guest57856: Assumably #php
[23:51] <arthurdent> Guest57856: have you tried #php ?
[23:51] <Guest57856> how can i join ?
[23:51] <Guest57856> #php
[23:51] <arthurdent> type /join #php
[23:51] <bekks> "/join #php"
[23:52] <Bashing-om> andreas_: Background info for my edification: all you did was change the video card, the system was good before exchanging the card ?
[23:52] <Bashing-om> andreas_: look'n at 7540140.
[23:52] <Guest57856> cudn't join
[23:53] <Guest57856> Cannot join #php (Channel is invite only).
[23:53] <TJ-> andreas_: When it boots, does it *try* to start the GUI and fail, or just take you to a terminal log-in immediately ?
[23:53] <Guest57856> this is the message i get
[23:53] <arthurdent> Guest57856: /join ##php
[23:53] <andreas_> Bashing-om: mm hmm. the last card worked fine. the guy we took it to (because I didn't realize that the card was what blew) and then he put a new one in but I bought a better one and neither one of them worked.
[23:53] <Guest57856>  ##php :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[23:53] <TJ-> Guest57856: they probably require you to have a registered nickname to enter the channel
[23:54] <Guest57856> registered nickname how can i get it?
[23:54] <andreas_> Bashing-om: it starts up, shows the bios screen, then goes to the purple ubuntu screen with the successive red dots under the name, & then right to terminal log in
[23:54] <TJ-> andreas_: can you show us "cat /proc/cmdline | pastebinit" ?
[23:54] <SchrodingersScat> !register | Guest57856
[23:55] <Bashing-om> andreas_: OK, should have been a piece of cake, huumm as this shoulkd have been, ok now what returns from -> sudo grep 'blacklist.*nouveau' /etc/modprobe.d/* <- .
[23:55] <Guest57856> ok
[23:55] <TJ-> Bashing-om: it sounds as if the X server isn't even trying, which may mean the system is in a 'text' mode, or lightdm has been disabled, or other similar issues.
[23:57] <andreas_> Bashing-om: "/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf:blacklist nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf:blacklist lbm-nouveau"
[23:57] <Bashing-om> TJ-: -> andreas_  We had tried earlier to start the GUI " sudo service lightdm start" and no joy.
[23:58] <arthurdent> sounds like errors i've had when moving from nvidia to radeon and such
[23:58] <TJ-> andreas_: can you show us "cat /proc/cmdline" ?
[23:58] <arthurdent> trying to support a single loadset for multiple workstations with different hardware had me running into problems like these, but I could usually just solve them by uninstalling whatever video card drivers existed, and installing vesa long enough to find the right drivers for the new card
[23:59] <Guest57856> aman :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable will it be back again?
[23:59] <arthurdent> not likely
[23:59] <Guest57856> ohh then how can i register?