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| Riddell | morning all | 09:03 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 09:09 |
| BluesKaj | I'm getting this error, upgrades on 14.10 are frozen, http://privatepaste.com/c5dbca012f | 09:17 |
| ahoneybun | hey Riddell | 09:56 |
| Riddell | morning aaron | 09:57 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: ready to come back to Kubuntu? | 09:58 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: been back | 09:58 |
| ahoneybun | wow so many deviantart messages | 10:02 |
| Riddell | you're an artist? | 10:04 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I just did some messing around and messed around with porting coverart things | 10:07 |
| ahoneybun | anyone can have a deviantart accound | 10:07 |
| ahoneybun | *account | 10:07 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, have you seem the error I posted above, don't see anything on launchpad | 10:08 |
| BluesKaj | seen | 10:08 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: yes, sorry I've no idea, beneath kubuntu's sphere, looks like something to do with a systemd transition, ScottK also said you might have -proposed enabled | 10:09 |
| BluesKaj | yeah I suspected it wasn't a kde problem, but I thought I'd ask anyway | 10:10 |
| BluesKaj | no proposed sources here | 10:10 |
| BluesKaj | inkscape.dev/trunk perhaps ? | 10:13 |
| BluesKaj | nope, getting the same error on my desktop which doesn't have the inkscape ppa | 10:16 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I'm think about Akademy | 10:19 |
| ahoneybun | *thinking | 10:19 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: come along! | 10:20 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: money and I don't know if I could bring anything good if I could get funding | 10:20 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: ubuntu community fund is the way to go | 10:24 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/ | 10:24 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I just don't know what I could bring to the table | 10:24 |
| Riddell | we'll find things! | 10:24 |
| Riddell | lots of docs to fix yet, or if you're bored of that become an elite packager like sgclark | 10:25 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: the docs on the userbase I don't want to mess with too much as of translations | 10:34 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: the help.ubuntu.com wiki would do with a going over to make sure it's relevant to kubuntu | 10:37 |
| Riddell | e.g. we link to this to guide people to burn isos https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto | 10:37 |
| Riddell | but it doesn't say how to do it from kde | 10:37 |
| ahoneybun | I see | 10:37 |
| Riddell | and this is really just a wall of text https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick | 10:37 |
| Riddell | needs a simple version | 10:37 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, not much action in #ubuntu-devel, surprising | 10:46 |
| Riddell | all of canonical is at a conference which the community isn't invited to | 10:50 |
| BluesKaj | ok, here's a list of the problem dependencies on 14.10, http://privatepaste.com/794db390e0, wonder if any devs are looking at this? | 11:33 |
| ScottK | BluesKaj: Look at Martin Pitt's post to ubuntu-devel this morning. It may be relevant. | 12:09 |
| BluesKaj | ScottK, thanks, but think I joined too late to see it. I don't normally use that chat | 12:11 |
| ScottK | BluesKaj: The mailing list. It has an archive. | 12:11 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-May/038333.html | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, I'm looking at it, but I'm not having any bootup problems, only upgrade problems | 12:25 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1324525] [Multiarch] unable to install libaspell15:i386 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1324525 (by Thomas-Karl Pietrowski) | 12:43 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, here's the log in /var/lib/insserv/run-20140529T0840.log, http://privatepaste.com/ac2b0e2233 | 12:43 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: it'll all be part of the same problem, ask pitti if he has ideas failing that a reinstall may be the easiest way | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, oh he is pitti then, ok will do | 12:47 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I've reopened bug 1322968, it is a real problem which is worth fixing | 13:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1322968 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "Changing country leads to invalid locale" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1322968 | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/milou/milou_0.1-0ubuntu2.dsc < can you upload that plz :) | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: and then do a backport upload? | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | to trusty | 13:12 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1322968] Changing country leads to invalid locale @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1322968 (by Dimitris Kardarakos) | 13:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how do I tell tarme to use l10n-kf5 or l10n-kde4 ? | 14:23 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: milou uploaded! where do you want the backport? | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ubuntu-backports | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | I reckon backportpackage should do the needful when the 0ubuntu2 package lands in the archive | 14:45 |
| Riddell | ah, bug 1323315 | 14:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1323315 in trusty-backports "Please backport milou 0.1-0ubuntu1 (universe) from utopic" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1323315 | 14:45 |
| Riddell | debfx: you seem to be the man for backports, what needs done for that milou update? | 14:46 |
| shadeslayer | spot | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | whoops :P | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: mind giving me a hand with the merges? | 14:51 |
| shadeslayer | if you're free | 14:51 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: is there much useful stuff in the merges that makes it worth the time? | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yes, autopkgtests | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | abi compliance checks | 14:55 |
| Riddell | ah yes did you e-mail about autopkgtests ? | 14:56 |
| Riddell | I still am not sure what they are | 14:56 |
| Riddell | and what are these abi compliance checks ? | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: see man dh_acc | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: as for autopkgtests, see https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/All/job/utopic-adt-kde4libs/ | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | ( fixed in bzr btw ^^ ) | 14:57 |
| sgclark | I am trying to upload a merge to my PPA and get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544543/ help! | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: because there is no 4.13.1 yet | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | in the archives | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | so I usually locally switch the changelog to 4.13.0 to see if everything builds | 14:59 |
| sgclark | it builds locally, you mean change it and upload to my PPA as 4.13.0? | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | well, if it builds locally, just push a bzr branch and ask for a merge/review | 15:01 |
| sgclark | ok | 15:02 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: where's the list of merges kept? | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-merges | 15:03 |
| * Riddell grabs baloo | 15:04 | |
| debfx | Riddell: ideally a request through the requestbackport tool | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: psst, I hear debfx likes unicode checkmarks ;) | 15:13 |
| Riddell | ༒ | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | that's not a check | 15:15 |
| Riddell | it's a cheerful dance | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | ah :D | 15:15 |
| debfx | oh no, now everyone knows ;) | 15:16 |
| debfx | that looks like 3 arrows setting something on fire | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: fwiw I'm merging from debian git repos | 15:24 |
| sgclark | kalzium merge in bazaar for review | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: why was the kalzium.install.armhf file dropped? | 15:28 |
| Riddell | baloo merge uploaded! | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: and please change the changelog entry to UNRELEASED if kalzium hasn't been uploaded | 15:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: are you really asking for reviews of every merge you do? | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: no, just the really big ones | 15:30 |
| Riddell | we'll need some batch process for merges if there's a hope of getting through them all | 15:32 |
| Riddell | which is what I remember doing last year, downloading a dozen packages and doing several at a time | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | or you know, just using git | 15:34 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: I don't know why bzr deleted it, doing revert | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: cool | 15:35 |
| * shadeslayer ponders about ordering pizza | 15:37 | |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, pitti helped solve my problem | 15:38 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: should be fixed now | 15:40 |
| sgclark | Riddell: isn't that meeting now? or did I confuse times? | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | uf, meting | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | totally not in the mood :( | 16:19 |
| sgclark | sorry, if I have any hope to go to akadamy I need this, I have worked hard for it as well | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: ofcourse, I just have to suck it up and attend :P | 16:20 |
| sgclark | ty | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | because I said yes to the doodle | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: #ubuntu-meeting ? | 16:21 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: I have no idea, no one told me I had to be somewhere else :( | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ScottK yofel jussi meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 16:22 |
| jussi | Im there! | 16:22 |
| jussi | /me hugs sgclark | 16:23 |
| yofel | -meeting looks free, do we need to do it there? (I'm always there though) | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | might as well, since that's what it's for | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | where's apachelogger | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: meeting time | 16:24 |
| jussi | avoiding you :P | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | why :( | 16:24 |
| jussi | do you really need to ask? :P :P | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 16:25 |
| * jussi hugs shadeslayer | 16:25 | |
| shadeslayer | *hugs* | 16:25 |
| yofel | valorie: ping | 16:26 |
| jussi | sgclark: I havent seen a polo shirt order from you, immediate -1 from me :P :P :P :P :P | 16:27 |
| sgclark | jussi: sorry, cash flow issues, will when I can | 16:28 |
| jussi | sgclark: no real actual need, just teasing :D | 16:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world | 16:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | can I also join the meeting? | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: do you have something to put on the agenda? | 16:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | one question | 16:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | for sgclark | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | are you a kubuntu member? | 16:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | no | 16:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | just a contributor | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | hm, unsure if you can ask questions then | 16:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok then | 16:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | I won't | 16:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | ;) | 16:41 |
| jussi | of course he can :) | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: go ahead in #ubuntu-meeting :) | 16:48 |
| jussi | as long as they are on topic and not disruptive | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | policy implies only kubuntu-members can ask questions, but yeah ^^ seems reasonable | 16:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | I was thinking to ask, why she chose Kubuntu over other distros. | 16:50 |
| yofel | ROFL @ -meeting | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: go ahed | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | *ahead | 16:51 |
| lordievader | Good evening. | 17:00 |
| * sgclark is a nervous wreck | 17:08 | |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: heh, no need to me | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | s/me/be/ | 17:09 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "sgclark: heh, no need to be" | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | we don't bite :P | 17:09 |
| sgclark | Thanks everyone, gonna step out a bit to calm my frazzled nerves lol | 17:12 |
| Riddell | sgclark: arg, sorry, I was the one who messed up on timezones and missed it :( | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: vote on the ML :) | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | also, I'm done | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | cya tomorrow | 17:24 |
| Riddell | thanks shadeslayer | 17:25 |
| sgclark | It's ok Riddell: just be sure to vote in my favor please :) | 18:25 |
| soee | looks cool https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-asFPvnoidnw/U4cXbGCcv2I/AAAAAAAAM3I/dEIyVSNFf_w/s1600/SystemSettings-New_zpsce8cb0ac.png :) | 19:18 |
| soee | thw wole work by vdg is amazing :) | 19:18 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: going for the membership? | 19:24 |
| ahoneybun | soee: is that the new system settings for kde? | 19:26 |
| sgclark | ahoneybun: trying :) | 19:26 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: I wish you luck and you'll do fine! | 19:26 |
| sgclark | thanks! | 19:26 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: is there a set time and date? | 19:27 |
| sgclark | meeting was this morning, waiting for the votes to roll in | 19:27 |
| ahoneybun | darn I missed it | 19:28 |
| ahoneybun | was at work | 19:28 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: I'm sure you'll get it | 19:28 |
| sgclark | ty, hope so :) | 19:29 |
| ahoneybun | np | 19:30 |
| ahoneybun | I find having the @kubuntu.org email awesome | 19:31 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I placed a spot for kubuntu on the burningISO page you gave me yesterday, have not finished it yet | 19:33 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: great | 21:47 |
| santa_ | Riddell: thank you for merging my changes, as you can see I have figured the merge request button thing with the help of a #launchpad guy. now that I have a workflow my plan is rebuilding the kf5 packages and fix these kind of issues, i.e. *.pri files in multiach, missing -dev packages because of wrap-and-sort, missing optional build dependencies | 22:09 |
| Riddell | santa_: that would be great, thanks | 22:49 |
| Riddell | santa_: one other issue is to add more dependencies to the -dev packages | 22:49 |
| santa_ | what you mean more dependencies? like what? | 22:50 |
| Riddell | santa_: so libkf5coreaddons-dev has /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CoreAddons/KF5CoreAddonsConfig.cmake which says find_dependency qt5core so libkf5coreaddons-dev should depend on qt5core's -dev package | 22:50 |
| Riddell | or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5JobWidgets/KF5JobWidgetsConfig.cmake has find_dependency on Qt5Widgets KF5CoreAddons KF5WidgetsAddons so libkf5jobwidgets-dev should depend on all those -dev packages | 22:51 |
| santa_ | I understand, how is that could be done? by hand? | 22:51 |
| Riddell | yes I think it's a slow manual task | 22:51 |
| santa_ | hmm | 22:51 |
| santa_ | definitely this idea I'm about to explain should be done after the exams | 22:52 |
| santa_ | what about doing a dh_something which would parse the cmake files and provide a substvar with the dependencies? | 22:53 |
| santa_ | thus the -dev package would depend on that substvar | 22:53 |
| santa_ | but as I said, if the idea is ok, after the exams :D | 22:54 |
| Riddell | yes, may work but a fiddly job to implement | 22:54 |
| santa_ | oh, and another thing easy to do | 22:55 |
| santa_ | some packages having various libraries should use ${allLibraries} | 22:55 |
| santa_ | instead of listing the packages one by one | 22:55 |
| valorie | shit, I missed the meeting? | 23:16 |
| valorie | arghhhh | 23:16 |
| valorie | although I'm not sure we were online at that point | 23:17 |
| valorie | problems with all the tech in the house within a week.... now all fixx00red, hopefully | 23:17 |
| jose | valorie: hey, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/05/29/community-donations-funding-report/ may be interesting to you (in case you haven't seen it yet) | 23:30 |
| valorie | I had not seen it, no | 23:31 |
| valorie | thank you for the link, jose | 23:31 |
| jose | np :) | 23:31 |
| valorie | looks like we've been making good use of those funds | 23:33 |
| ahoneybun | hey valorie | 23:43 |
| jose | yep, looks like :) | 23:44 |
| ScottK | For the record: I told Riddell in advance to vote +1 for sgclark for me and then he missed the meeting. | 23:45 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: I'm thinking of trying to use those funds for Akademy | 23:46 |
| jose | ahoneybun: for sponsorship? as long as you don't ask for $41,552.34 it's a good idea :P | 23:49 |
| ahoneybun | jose: yea lol just wondering as I am in the US | 23:49 |
| jose | I don't think I'll be able to go to Akademy, there's a conference conflict in those dates and ticket's already bought :( | 23:50 |
| ahoneybun | I can't find a flight for that day! | 23:50 |
| jose | where are you leaving from? | 23:51 |
| jose | I'll help you find a cheap one | 23:51 |
| valorie | all us Murricans are sort of expensive to send to Akademy | 23:52 |
| valorie | I imagine once the word gets out, there might be more Gnomers asking for funding too | 23:53 |
| ahoneybun | jose: Hollywood, FL | 23:54 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: can't even find a damn plane lol | 23:54 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: fly to Vienna, then take the bus | 23:55 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: never thought of that | 23:55 |
| valorie | https://akademy.kde.org/2014/travel-brno | 23:55 |
| * ahoneybun need to get his passport | 23:55 | |
| valorie | yes, get on that today | 23:55 |
| valorie | it takes awhile | 23:56 |
| valorie | I hope I get word back soon; the price of the ticket keeps rising | 23:57 |
| * ahoneybun is short on money | 23:57 | |
| ahoneybun | around 1300 or so right now | 23:57 |
| valorie | more than that from here | 23:58 |
| ahoneybun | 135 for my passport | 23:59 |
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