=== xnox_ is now known as xnox === CodePulsar is now known as CodePulsaro === CodePulsaro is now known as CodePulsar [09:03] morning all [09:09] Hiyas all [09:17] I'm getting this error, upgrades on 14.10 are frozen, http://privatepaste.com/c5dbca012f [09:56] hey Riddell [09:57] morning aaron [09:58] ahoneybun: ready to come back to Kubuntu? [09:58] Riddell: been back [10:02] wow so many deviantart messages [10:04] you're an artist? [10:07] Riddell: I just did some messing around and messed around with porting coverart things [10:07] anyone can have a deviantart accound [10:07] *account [10:08] Riddell, have you seem the error I posted above, don't see anything on launchpad [10:08] seen [10:09] BluesKaj: yes, sorry I've no idea, beneath kubuntu's sphere, looks like something to do with a systemd transition, ScottK also said you might have -proposed enabled [10:10] yeah I suspected it wasn't a kde problem, but I thought I'd ask anyway [10:10] no proposed sources here [10:13] inkscape.dev/trunk perhaps ? [10:16] nope, getting the same error on my desktop which doesn't have the inkscape ppa [10:19] Riddell: I'm think about Akademy [10:19] *thinking [10:20] ahoneybun: come along! [10:20] Riddell: money and I don't know if I could bring anything good if I could get funding [10:24] ahoneybun: ubuntu community fund is the way to go [10:24] ahoneybun: http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/ [10:24] Riddell: I just don't know what I could bring to the table [10:24] we'll find things! [10:25] lots of docs to fix yet, or if you're bored of that become an elite packager like sgclark [10:34] Riddell: the docs on the userbase I don't want to mess with too much as of translations [10:37] ahoneybun: the help.ubuntu.com wiki would do with a going over to make sure it's relevant to kubuntu [10:37] e.g. we link to this to guide people to burn isos https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [10:37] but it doesn't say how to do it from kde [10:37] I see [10:37] and this is really just a wall of text https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick [10:37] needs a simple version [10:46] hmm, not much action in #ubuntu-devel, surprising [10:50] all of canonical is at a conference which the community isn't invited to [11:33] ok, here's a list of the problem dependencies on 14.10, http://privatepaste.com/794db390e0, wonder if any devs are looking at this? [12:09] BluesKaj: Look at Martin Pitt's post to ubuntu-devel this morning. It may be relevant. [12:11] ScottK, thanks, but think I joined too late to see it. I don't normally use that chat [12:11] BluesKaj: The mailing list. It has an archive. [12:13] BluesKaj: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-May/038333.html [12:25] Riddell, I'm looking at it, but I'm not having any bootup problems, only upgrade problems [12:43] ::runtime-bugs:: [1324525] [Multiarch] unable to install libaspell15:i386 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1324525 (by Thomas-Karl Pietrowski) [12:43] Riddell, here's the log in /var/lib/insserv/run-20140529T0840.log, http://privatepaste.com/ac2b0e2233 [12:46] BluesKaj: it'll all be part of the same problem, ask pitti if he has ideas failing that a reinstall may be the easiest way [12:47] Riddell, oh he is pitti then, ok will do [13:02] apachelogger: I've reopened bug 1322968, it is a real problem which is worth fixing [13:02] bug 1322968 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "Changing country leads to invalid locale" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1322968 [13:12] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/milou/milou_0.1-0ubuntu2.dsc < can you upload that plz :) [13:12] Riddell: and then do a backport upload? [13:12] to trusty [13:45] ::runtime-bugs:: [1322968] Changing country leads to invalid locale @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1322968 (by Dimitris Kardarakos) [14:23] apachelogger: how do I tell tarme to use l10n-kf5 or l10n-kde4 ? [14:44] shadeslayer: milou uploaded! where do you want the backport? [14:44] Riddell: ubuntu-backports [14:45] I reckon backportpackage should do the needful when the 0ubuntu2 package lands in the archive [14:45] ah, bug 1323315 [14:45] bug 1323315 in trusty-backports "Please backport milou 0.1-0ubuntu1 (universe) from utopic" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1323315 [14:46] debfx: you seem to be the man for backports, what needs done for that milou update? [14:49] spot [14:49] whoops :P [14:51] Riddell: mind giving me a hand with the merges? [14:51] if you're free [14:55] shadeslayer: is there much useful stuff in the merges that makes it worth the time? [14:55] Riddell: yes, autopkgtests [14:55] abi compliance checks [14:56] ah yes did you e-mail about autopkgtests ? [14:56] I still am not sure what they are [14:56] and what are these abi compliance checks ? [14:56] nope [14:56] Riddell: see man dh_acc [14:57] Riddell: as for autopkgtests, see https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/All/job/utopic-adt-kde4libs/ [14:57] ( fixed in bzr btw ^^ ) [14:59] I am trying to upload a merge to my PPA and get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544543/ help! [14:59] sgclark: because there is no 4.13.1 yet [14:59] in the archives [14:59] so I usually locally switch the changelog to 4.13.0 to see if everything builds [15:01] it builds locally, you mean change it and upload to my PPA as 4.13.0? [15:01] well, if it builds locally, just push a bzr branch and ask for a merge/review [15:02] ok [15:03] shadeslayer: where's the list of merges kept? [15:03] Riddell: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-merges [15:04] * Riddell grabs baloo [15:11] Riddell: ideally a request through the requestbackport tool [15:13] Riddell: psst, I hear debfx likes unicode checkmarks ;) [15:15] ༒ [15:15] that's not a check [15:15] it's a cheerful dance [15:15] ah :D [15:16] oh no, now everyone knows ;) [15:17] that looks like 3 arrows setting something on fire [15:24] Riddell: fwiw I'm merging from debian git repos [15:28] kalzium merge in bazaar for review [15:28] sgclark: why was the kalzium.install.armhf file dropped? [15:29] baloo merge uploaded! [15:30] sgclark: and please change the changelog entry to UNRELEASED if kalzium hasn't been uploaded [15:30] shadeslayer: are you really asking for reviews of every merge you do? [15:30] Riddell: no, just the really big ones [15:32] we'll need some batch process for merges if there's a hope of getting through them all [15:33] which is what I remember doing last year, downloading a dozen packages and doing several at a time [15:34] or you know, just using git [15:35] shadeslayer: I don't know why bzr deleted it, doing revert [15:35] sgclark: cool [15:37] * shadeslayer ponders about ordering pizza [15:38] Riddell, pitti helped solve my problem [15:40] shadeslayer: should be fixed now [16:09] Riddell: isn't that meeting now? or did I confuse times? [16:19] uf, meting [16:19] totally not in the mood :( [16:20] sorry, if I have any hope to go to akadamy I need this, I have worked hard for it as well [16:20] sgclark: ofcourse, I just have to suck it up and attend :P [16:20] ty [16:20] because I said yes to the doodle [16:21] sgclark: #ubuntu-meeting ? [16:22] shadeslayer: I have no idea, no one told me I had to be somewhere else :( [16:22] Riddell: ScottK yofel jussi meeting in #ubuntu-meeting [16:22] Im there! [16:23] /me hugs sgclark [16:23] -meeting looks free, do we need to do it there? (I'm always there though) [16:23] might as well, since that's what it's for [16:24] where's apachelogger [16:24] apachelogger: meeting time [16:24] avoiding you :P [16:24] why :( [16:25] do you really need to ask? :P :P [16:25] heh [16:25] * jussi hugs shadeslayer [16:25] *hugs* [16:26] valorie: ping [16:27] sgclark: I havent seen a polo shirt order from you, immediate -1 from me :P :P :P :P :P [16:28] jussi: sorry, cash flow issues, will when I can [16:28] sgclark: no real actual need, just teasing :D [16:39] hello world [16:39] can I also join the meeting? [16:39] sure [16:40] ovidiu-florin: do you have something to put on the agenda? [16:40] one question [16:40] for sgclark [16:40] are you a kubuntu member? [16:40] no [16:40] just a contributor [16:40] hm, unsure if you can ask questions then [16:41] ok then [16:41] I won't [16:41] ;) [16:48] of course he can :) [16:48] ok [16:48] ovidiu-florin: go ahead in #ubuntu-meeting :) [16:49] as long as they are on topic and not disruptive [16:49] policy implies only kubuntu-members can ask questions, but yeah ^^ seems reasonable [16:50] I was thinking to ask, why she chose Kubuntu over other distros. [16:51] ROFL @ -meeting [16:51] ovidiu-florin: go ahed [16:51] *ahead [17:00] Good evening. [17:08] * sgclark is a nervous wreck [17:08] sgclark: heh, no need to me [17:09] s/me/be/ [17:09] shadeslayer meant: "sgclark: heh, no need to be" [17:09] we don't bite :P [17:12] Thanks everyone, gonna step out a bit to calm my frazzled nerves lol [17:20] sgclark: arg, sorry, I was the one who messed up on timezones and missed it :( [17:24] Riddell: vote on the ML :) [17:24] also, I'm done [17:24] cya tomorrow [17:25] thanks shadeslayer [18:25] It's ok Riddell: just be sure to vote in my favor please :) [19:18] looks cool https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-asFPvnoidnw/U4cXbGCcv2I/AAAAAAAAM3I/dEIyVSNFf_w/s1600/SystemSettings-New_zpsce8cb0ac.png :) [19:18] thw wole work by vdg is amazing :) [19:24] sgclark: going for the membership? [19:26] soee: is that the new system settings for kde? [19:26] ahoneybun: trying :) [19:26] sgclark: I wish you luck and you'll do fine! [19:26] thanks! [19:27] sgclark: is there a set time and date? [19:27] meeting was this morning, waiting for the votes to roll in [19:28] darn I missed it [19:28] was at work [19:28] sgclark: I'm sure you'll get it [19:29] ty, hope so :) [19:30] np [19:31] I find having the @kubuntu.org email awesome [19:33] Riddell: I placed a spot for kubuntu on the burningISO page you gave me yesterday, have not finished it yet [21:47] ahoneybun: great [22:09] Riddell: thank you for merging my changes, as you can see I have figured the merge request button thing with the help of a #launchpad guy. now that I have a workflow my plan is rebuilding the kf5 packages and fix these kind of issues, i.e. *.pri files in multiach, missing -dev packages because of wrap-and-sort, missing optional build dependencies [22:49] santa_: that would be great, thanks [22:49] santa_: one other issue is to add more dependencies to the -dev packages [22:50] what you mean more dependencies? like what? [22:50] santa_: so libkf5coreaddons-dev has /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CoreAddons/KF5CoreAddonsConfig.cmake which says find_dependency qt5core so libkf5coreaddons-dev should depend on qt5core's -dev package [22:51] or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5JobWidgets/KF5JobWidgetsConfig.cmake has find_dependency on Qt5Widgets KF5CoreAddons KF5WidgetsAddons so libkf5jobwidgets-dev should depend on all those -dev packages [22:51] I understand, how is that could be done? by hand? [22:51] yes I think it's a slow manual task [22:51] hmm [22:52] definitely this idea I'm about to explain should be done after the exams [22:53] what about doing a dh_something which would parse the cmake files and provide a substvar with the dependencies? [22:53] thus the -dev package would depend on that substvar [22:54] but as I said, if the idea is ok, after the exams :D [22:54] yes, may work but a fiddly job to implement [22:55] oh, and another thing easy to do [22:55] some packages having various libraries should use ${allLibraries} [22:55] instead of listing the packages one by one [23:16] shit, I missed the meeting? [23:16] arghhhh [23:17] although I'm not sure we were online at that point [23:17] problems with all the tech in the house within a week.... now all fixx00red, hopefully [23:30] valorie: hey, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/05/29/community-donations-funding-report/ may be interesting to you (in case you haven't seen it yet) [23:31] I had not seen it, no [23:31] thank you for the link, jose [23:31] np :) [23:33] looks like we've been making good use of those funds [23:43] hey valorie [23:44] yep, looks like :) [23:45] For the record: I told Riddell in advance to vote +1 for sgclark for me and then he missed the meeting. [23:46] valorie: I'm thinking of trying to use those funds for Akademy [23:49] ahoneybun: for sponsorship? as long as you don't ask for $41,552.34 it's a good idea :P [23:49] jose: yea lol just wondering as I am in the US [23:50] I don't think I'll be able to go to Akademy, there's a conference conflict in those dates and ticket's already bought :( [23:50] I can't find a flight for that day! [23:51] where are you leaving from? [23:51] I'll help you find a cheap one [23:52] all us Murricans are sort of expensive to send to Akademy [23:53] I imagine once the word gets out, there might be more Gnomers asking for funding too [23:54] jose: Hollywood, FL [23:54] valorie: can't even find a damn plane lol [23:55] ahoneybun: fly to Vienna, then take the bus [23:55] valorie: never thought of that [23:55] https://akademy.kde.org/2014/travel-brno [23:55] * ahoneybun need to get his passport [23:55] yes, get on that today [23:56] it takes awhile [23:57] I hope I get word back soon; the price of the ticket keeps rising [23:57] * ahoneybun is short on money [23:57] around 1300 or so right now [23:58] more than that from here [23:59] 135 for my passport