[00:45] <StevenK> wallyworld: How much did you enjoy Origin yesteday? :-P
[00:45] <wallyworld> fuck off :-(
[00:45] <wallyworld> i was there at the ground too :-(
[00:45] <wallyworld> first time we have lost the opening game at lang park for 11 years
[00:46]  * wallyworld is sad
[00:46] <wallyworld> how's hp? miss canonical yet?
[00:48] <StevenK> wallyworld: It's great fun, and only the people.
[00:48] <wallyworld> present company excluded :-)
[00:49] <StevenK> Haha
[00:49] <wallyworld> i'm sure wgrant misses you
[03:47] <lifeless> wallyworld: oh hai
[03:47] <wallyworld> hi there
[03:47] <wallyworld> how's things
[03:47] <lifeless> wallyworld: fantastic :) - you? been in malta?
[03:48] <wallyworld> nah, stuck here in brisbane
[03:48] <wallyworld> we had our cloud sprint back in may
[03:48] <lifeless> wallyworld: it is may :)
[03:48] <wallyworld> oh, april, early may
[03:48] <wallyworld> i thought it was june already
[03:48] <wallyworld> getting ahead of myself
[03:48] <lifeless> 2 more days I think
[03:49] <wallyworld> how's all the openstack stuff going?
[03:49] <lifeless> very well
[03:49] <wallyworld> good to hear, i woud expect nothing less from you :-)
[03:49] <lifeless> we're just starting on scale and perf stuff
[03:50] <wallyworld> always important
[03:50] <lifeless> got a big project to take heat to the next level
[03:50] <lifeless> spamaps is in india right now kicking that off :)
[03:50] <wallyworld> so things hotting up
[03:50] <wallyworld> ha ha ha
[03:50] <lifeless> trolololol
[03:50] <lifeless> :)
[03:50] <lifeless> yeah
[03:51] <wallyworld> sad that this channel gets little traffic nowadays :-(
[03:54] <lifeless> yeah, less devs less chatter :(
[03:57] <wallyworld> lots of traffic on #juju-dev. we'll all way too busy
[04:20] <lifeless> ah, I'm only in #juju
[05:57] <wallyworld> yeah #juju is more end user / customer focused
[06:55] <dpm> morning wgrant, I'm looking at the translations templates in LP before opening translations, and I see translations are all empty. Has the copy of translations from previous releases happened at all? E.g. https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+lang/ca
[06:57] <wgrant> dpm: Stats are regenerated only every couple of days. If you click on eg the top untranslated link, you'll see that there's actually nothing untranslated.
[06:57] <wgrant> But the counts shown on the page you linked have to be cached.
[06:59] <wgrant> Actually, as there are technically no changes these could take a week to update.
[06:59] <dpm> wgrant, is there a way to trigger the stats update? I wouldn't want to open translations with these stats, and I'd rather not have to wait for another week
[07:00] <wgrant> I'll see what I can do, but my team's knowledge of Translations is still very limited.
[07:01] <dpm> thanks wgrant, I appreciate it
[07:06] <jtv> dpm, wgrant: aren't the stats supposed to update anyway as the imports happen?
[07:06] <wgrant> jtv: Right, but there were only about 900 approved imports
[07:07] <dpm> jtv, I've no idea, but I didn't recall having to wait for a week for stats to get updated in previous openings
[07:08] <wgrant> I'll try to investigate later, but busy sprint is busy.
[07:08]  * wgrant adds a task.
[07:08] <dpm> thanks wgrant!
[07:10] <jtv> IIRC the problem used to be that there were several _layers_ of cached stats.
[07:10] <wgrant> Yeah, the POT's language totals are a separate nightly job
[07:10] <wgrant> But even the POFile stats are out of date here.
[07:10] <jtv> First you had stats per POFile, and then there were aggregated per-language and per-template stats.
[07:11] <wgrant> dpm: Have you seen anything to suggest that it's more than jsust the stats that are borked?
[07:12] <wgrant> AFAICT the data itself is fine.
[07:12] <wgrant> But I'm not 100% sure.
[07:14] <wgrant> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/binutils/+pots/bfd looks fine
[07:14] <dpm> wgrant, I went through the imports queue and approved a few templates that needed to get in. So the imports queue looked ok to me. I've now checked a couple of translations for 'ca' and they look ok to me too
[07:15] <dpm> wgrant, yeah, individual templates look good too, it seems to be only the big list of templates for a language
[07:15] <wgrant> i'd only expect DistroSeriesLanguage to be totally broken at this point, but it's clearly more than that.
[07:19] <wgrant> Where does that page get those stats :S
[07:19] <wgrant> Not from POFile.
[07:22] <wgrant> Hm
[07:22] <wgrant> I think it's getting dummy POFiles.
[07:22] <wgrant> But why?
[07:22] <wgrant> It's not even trying to look for the real ones.
[07:39] <jtv> There's another separate table somewhere in a forgotten corner for aggregated statistics, isn't there?
[07:40] <jtv> Dummy POFiles... might those happen because translations aren't open?
[07:40] <jtv> Shouldn't, but there's probably quite a stack of software to decide whether a POFile is ready for use.
[07:49] <dpm> wgrant, I've filed an RT to set up the utopic exports to start generating language packs. Who should I ping about it - webops in #launchpad-ops?
[07:50] <wgrant> dpm: They'll ask for a specific crontab change that I'll have to give them.
[07:51] <dpm> wgrant, so how do I do this best? Shall I forward you the RT?
[07:52] <wgrant> dpm: Right, Cc me and I'll reply.
[07:54] <dpm> wgrant, ok, done
[07:54] <wgrant> Thanks
[14:56] <wgrant> cprov: Could you please review the two small branches branchs I have on activereviews?
[14:59] <cjohnston> what, my reviews aren't good enough
[15:11] <cprov> wgrant: sure
[15:12] <cprov> wgrant: am I too late ?
[15:24] <wgrant> cprov: Too late?
[15:24] <cprov> wgrant: could not find your branches in my queue.
[15:25] <wgrant> cprov: Oh, I guess Chris already poked them. Can you check anyway, just in csae?
[15:25] <wgrant> I hope to deploy thiese and some of Chris' further fixes soon.
[15:29] <cprov> wgrant: good to go, thanks
[15:33] <wgrant> cprov: Thanks.
[19:40] <rpadovani> Hey guys, great work with inline comments, thanks :-) Only one thing: in the announcement bar there is a dead link to a blog post, could you create the blog post or remove the link?
[19:40] <rpadovani> The link is http://blog.launchpad.net/general/diff-comments
[19:41] <rpadovani> cjwatson, ^^ IIRC, you're a lp dev, maybe you can fix :-)
[19:49] <cjohnston> rpadovani: its a known issue with a fix to be released no
[19:49] <rpadovani> ok, thanks :-)