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| darkxst | pitti, xnox, cjwatson: any idea what suddenly caused ppp to fail installing in ubuntu gnome livecd builds? http://pastebin.com/QcAZAZxC | 02:39 |
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| Logan_ | why don't we have locales-all in eglibc? | 02:51 |
| Logan_ | nvm, found the answer | 02:52 |
| Unit193 | xnox: I'd presume you'd like me to file a bug about zram-config needing a init script or systemd service? | 04:36 |
| xnox | Unit193: there is one already. | 06:10 |
| xnox | Unit193: systemd zram-config units should be added. | 06:10 |
| Unit193 | xnox: I don't see them in bzr, but I'll trust you. Sorry for the bother, then. | 06:13 |
| xnox | Unit193: i mean, there is a bug already =) | 06:15 |
| xnox | Unit193: i don't believe it's been implemented yet. | 06:15 |
| Unit193 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/zram-config/utopic/files/head:/debian/ Oh good, so I'm only silly for ignoring all bugs. :P | 06:16 |
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| xnox | cjwatson: stgraber: pitti: so in ^ ubuntu-gnome case, ppp is configured before gdm is. And pppd-dns init.d script has Required-Start: gdm. Thus, the package should depend on gdm..... which seems wrong. Should the gdm move to X-Start-After instead? | 06:46 |
| xnox | (Should-start ?!) | 06:46 |
| xnox | oh, debian dropped gdm | 06:48 |
| xnox | let me merge / upload ppp | 06:48 |
| stgraber | that dependency seems wrong to begin with, why would pppd care about gdm? | 06:48 |
| ogra_ | debian dropped gdm ? wow | 06:49 |
| ogra_ | oh, the dependency you mean ... heh | 06:50 |
| xnox | stgraber: actually infinity added the gdm dep.... and change default start levels... | 06:51 |
| xnox | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7541969/ | 06:51 |
| xnox | which seems a bit silly, given that dependencies have not been used in ubuntu, until now. | 06:52 |
| cjwatson | I wonder if that was a mismerge | 06:53 |
| cjwatson | It's not mentioned in the changelog, and perhaps it just hit when some files moved around | 06:53 |
| cjwatson | - debian/ppp.pppd-dns: Update LSB header. | 06:53 |
| cjwatson | could easily have got stale | 06:53 |
| stgraber | looks like it, I don't see why anyone would voluntarily introduce that delta in Ubuntu | 06:54 |
| xnox | i uploaded dropping "gdm" dep only, for now (to unbreak every image type.... cause ppp seems to be seeded everywhere) | 06:56 |
| xnox | and will chat to infinity about merging ppp (or possibly syncing) | 06:56 |
| xnox | cjwatson: it also looks like it started to link against OpenSSL, yet there are gpl v2 plugins in ppp. | 06:57 |
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| cjwatson | lalala | 06:57 |
| pitti | darkxst: gdm only got promoted to utopic this (early) morning, so I guess that image build didn't see that yet | 06:58 |
| xnox | cjwatson: well, openssl was a delta introduced in ubuntu?! | 06:58 |
| pitti | xnox: hm, why would ppp depend on gdm? that sounds like the wrong way around? | 06:58 |
| xnox | pitti: it's order dependant. | 06:58 |
| xnox | pitti: gnome image build is failing, because ppp is configured before gdm, yet ppp init.d script depends on gdm to be already enabled..... when it at all shouldn't really. | 06:59 |
| pitti | xnox: yeah, that init.d gdm dep sounds fishy | 06:59 |
| pitti | even if it *had* a reason to depend on a DM (can't think of any), it shouldn't hardcode a particular one | 07:00 |
| pitti | but ugh, this is network setup | 07:00 |
| infinity | xnox: That doesn't sound like the sort of thing I would have done on purpose. | 07:04 |
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| pitti | Noskcaj, seb128: so gnome-icon-theme-symbolic 3.12 got synced yesterday, which is incompatible with our g-i-t 3.10; do we want to update g-i-t to 3.12 or delete the g-i-t-s from proposed? | 07:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, is it really incompatible or is it the packaging enforcing the same serie? | 07:05 |
| pitti | seb128: I suppose it's mostly just the dependencies | 07:05 |
| seb128 | or asked differently, can we tweak the depends | 07:05 |
| seb128 | who did sync it? | 07:05 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj? | 07:06 |
| cjwatson | xnox: if there are GPL plugins, then I can certainly see a case for either converting to GnuTLS, or for reverting the change in 2.4.5-5.1ubuntu2 and reopening bug 643417; but I haven't investigated | 07:06 |
| pitti | seb128: dholbach, sponsored for Noskcaj | 07:06 |
| ubottu | bug 643417 in Debian "[needs-packaging] ppp-2.4.5-eaptls-mppe" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643417 | 07:06 |
| infinity | xnox: Or at all... | 07:06 |
| pitti | seb128: but anyway, my question was rather if we generally move 3.12 wards | 07:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, we do the usual "safe updates are fine, updates that are disruptives should be hold on in a first time" | 07:06 |
| infinity | xnox: When are you claiming this change crept in? :P | 07:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, not sure how much they changed the icons, I know they are merging symbolic in the main theme, but that might be 3.13 only | 07:08 |
| mlankhorst | xkill | 07:08 |
| mlankhorst | oops | 07:08 |
| xnox | infinity: well, you were last merging it (and kept lsb-headers change that introduces gdm dep). the openssl build-dep was added after. | 07:10 |
| stgraber | xnox: you broke Ubuntu! | 07:20 |
| RAOF | pitti: colord tag debian/1.2.0-2 in collab-maint git should be ready to upload to sid. | 07:28 |
| infinity | xnox: Fair enough that I didn't drop the delta, but it's been there since jaunty, looks like. Blame Keybuk. ;) | 07:33 |
| xnox | infinity: haha =) | 07:43 |
| brendand | Trying to boot and stuck on 'Stopping Click system level hooks'. Though i get the feeling this isn't the real problem | 07:50 |
| brendand | Any way i can get more verbose? | 07:50 |
| seb128 | heh, I was about to ask about that as well | 07:50 |
| brendand | I already removed quiet from grub | 07:50 |
| seb128 | xnox, pitti, infinity: have you bricked utopic? ;-) | 07:50 |
| brendand | :) | 07:51 |
| * brendand takes heart that it's not just him | 07:51 | |
| pitti | right, being worked on | 07:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, any workaround to boot my machine again? | 07:51 |
| brendand | seb128, safe mode | 07:52 |
| seb128 | I want X | 07:52 |
| pitti | seb128: ironically, init=/lib/systemd/systemd | 07:52 |
| seb128 | I'm in safe mode | 07:52 |
| brendand | seb128, start lightdm | 07:52 |
| seb128 | brendand, my fs is ro in safe mode | 07:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 07:52 |
| brendand | or do what pitti says | 07:52 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's what I'm doing | 07:52 |
| brendand | Usually the right answer :) | 07:52 |
| brendand | seb128 - where do i set that option? | 07:53 |
| seb128 | brendand, grub I guess | 07:53 |
| pitti | boot with holding the shift key, then edit Ubuntu | 07:54 |
| brendand | pitti - on the 'linux' line? | 07:54 |
| pitti | yes | 07:55 |
| brendand | brilliant! | 07:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, works, danke! | 07:56 |
| brendand | Pitti - if i were in Malta i'd buy you all the beers | 07:56 |
| pitti | you mean kill us all because we broke utopic :) | 07:56 |
| brendand | pitti, well if you want to take the blame | 07:58 |
| brendand | pitti - then maybe there can be some poison in the beers :) | 07:59 |
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| brendand | pitti, now i'm curious what happened | 08:01 |
| pitti | seb128, brendand: found an easier trick | 08:06 |
| brendand | pitti, seems pretty easy to me :) but tell me anyway | 08:07 |
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| seb128 | pitti, danke | 08:08 |
| brendand | pitti, ah rather than changing to systemd | 08:08 |
| pitti | either works | 08:09 |
| brendand | pitti, is one 'safer' than the other? | 08:09 |
| pitti | brendand: let's say I can't fully guarantee that the .legacy-bootordering trick does not have less obvious side effects, like starting some init.d scripts twice | 08:09 |
| brendand | pitti, i'll stick with systemd then | 08:11 |
| brendand | until that breaks too :) | 08:11 |
| darkxst | pitti I have no idea what you mean by gdm only got promoted to utopic? gdm has been there all along | 08:12 |
| pitti | darkxst: I mean from utopic-proposed | 08:13 |
| seb128 | it's pitti's secret plan to push us to start using systemd! | 08:14 |
| Unit193 | pitti: That pushed "Patch Pilots:" off the end, FYI. | 08:15 |
| darkxst | seb128, yes the merging of symbolic icons is only for 3.13 | 08:16 |
| seb128 | darkxst, is g-i-t-s working fine with g-i-t 3.10? are the 3.12 update changing anything obvious visually/likely to create issues? | 08:17 |
| pitti | Unit193: I know; -EDONTCARE for now :) | 08:19 |
| pitti | so, sysvinit uploaded with panic fix | 08:19 |
| Unit193 | Sounds great. :) | 08:19 |
| === pitti changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Utopic boot broken; wait for sysv-rc 2.88dsf-41ubuntu15, boot with init=/lib/systemd/system in the meantime | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> trusty | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/l | ||
| === pitti changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Utopic boot fixed in sysv-rc 2.88dsf-41ubuntu15, boot with init=/lib/systemd/system until then | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> trusty | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch | ||
| darkxst | seb128, I haven't actually tested the 3.12 icon themes against 3.10, but I don't think there were any major changes for 3.12 | 08:21 |
| pitti | seb128, brendand: please remember to remove /etc/init.d/.legacy-bootordering after you got the new sysv-rc | 08:21 |
| pitti | stgraber set the fast-track flag for that so that we don't have to wait for $WORLD autopkgtests | 08:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, I didn't do that, just changed the init line ... do you want me to test that upload to see if it restores boot for me? | 08:22 |
| pitti | seb128: if you wish, sure | 08:22 |
| apw | pitti, can you check the current topic as /lib/systemd/system is a directory, and the kernel cannot boot that | 08:22 |
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| pitti | apw: thakns | 08:22 |
| * pitti tosses apw a "d" | 08:22 | |
| apw | pitti, :) | 08:22 |
| brendand | pitti, i didn't touch that. init= did the trick for me | 08:24 |
| pitti | brendand: right | 08:24 |
| pitti | I changed the topic to avoid people having to clean up that file | 08:24 |
| pitti | not quite the way I intended people to try systemd though :) | 08:24 |
| apw | pitti, so you _claim_ | 08:24 |
| brendand | pitti, well the test passes ! | 08:24 |
| pitti | so we already broke everyone by just re-syncing to Debian's sysvinit, which isn't even close to upstart/systemd | 08:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, that sysvinit update fixes my boot, thanks! | 08:29 |
| pitti | I just sent an u-devel@ mail about it | 08:37 |
| ypwong | can't checkout unity-lens-files from bzr, anyone knows what's wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7542487/ | 08:44 |
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| darkxst | pitti, seems like my main machine refuses to boot with systemd init :( | 09:09 |
| pitti | darkxst: so use the .legacy-bootordering workaround? | 09:12 |
| darkxst | pitti, I installed the sysv update which fixed things | 09:14 |
| darkxst | pitti, but I couldnt even get as far as a VT when booting with systemd ;( | 09:15 |
| ogra_ | pitti, slangasek, i think we need to talk about the custom upstart helpers we have on the phone ... i.e. we have an upstart bridge that talks to the container to read/set android properties ... can systemd offer us the same ? who will have to port it etc ... | 09:23 |
| slangasek | ogra_: yes, and that is not on the roadmap for 14.10 | 09:25 |
| brendand | is there any sort of documentation on actually using click (as a command line tool). like for creating click packages, installing them, etc | 09:25 |
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| slangasek | brendand: 'man click'? :) | 09:27 |
| brendand | slangasek, sort of | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, oh, i thought there were plans to switch the default ? | 09:28 |
| brendand | slangasek, i'll see how far i can get with that | 09:28 |
| slangasek | ogra_: not for the phone | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | would we have too special case the phone to keep upstart ? | 09:28 |
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| ogra_ | *to | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | (we currently just inherit ubuntu-minimal) | 09:29 |
| slangasek | ogra_: we're only switching to systemd by default opportunistically in 14.10 if it's stable, and not for the phone because it would be disruptive to RTM | 09:29 |
| ogra_ | ah, super then ... | 09:30 |
| ogra_ | thanks ! | 09:30 |
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| LocutusOfBorg1 | can anybody please retry this one? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sandboxgamemaker/2.7.1+dfsg-2build2/+build/6044192 | 09:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | seems blocking the libenet7 transition | 09:57 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cube2/0.0.20130203+dfsg-1build1/+build/6044206 | 09:57 |
| Saviq | pitti, THANK YOU! (re: sysv-rc) | 10:19 |
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| goarilla | can someone tell me what I need to do to recreate the /isolinux/bootlogo gfxboot archive | 11:31 |
| pitti | RAOF: hmm - I just see 1.2.0-1 in colord git, but that's already in exp? | 11:34 |
| cjwatson | goarilla: That's built by the gfxboot-theme-ubuntu source package - "make installdir" there | 11:35 |
| BluesKaj | ok, here's a list of the problem dependencies on 14.10, http://privatepaste.com/794db390e0, wonder if any devs are looking at this? | 11:35 |
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| pitti | RAOF: uploaded | 12:31 |
| RAOF | pitti: Huh. Experimental? | 12:38 |
| pitti | RAOF: oh sorry; the previous one I looked at was against experimental and I didn't look hard enough at the new changelog | 12:38 |
| pitti | RAOF: so, -3 then? :-/ | 12:39 |
| RAOF | pitti: I guess so :) | 12:39 |
| RAOF | Would you like to do that? | 12:39 |
| pitti | RAOF: can do | 12:39 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, I'm looking at your post in the devel forum https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-May/038333.html, but i'm not having boot problems, only upgrade problems, this what gets written to /var/lib/insserv/run-20140529T0840.log , http://privatepaste.com/ac2b0e2233 , any suggestions? | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, this the dependency error, http://privatepaste.com/794db390e0 | 12:53 |
| pitti | BluesKaj: that was fixed in udev 204-10ubuntu7, do you have that? | 13:00 |
| pitti | BluesKaj: right, your second pastebin shows it's ubuntu6 | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, muon shows I have 204-10ubuntu5 installed, but upgradeable | 13:07 |
| pitti | xnox: pad.ubuntu.com/init.d-task-check | 13:08 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, upgrade it or will it fail ? | 13:08 |
| pitti | BluesKaj: upgrade shold be fine | 13:09 |
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| pitti | RAOF: -3 uploaded FTR | 13:09 |
| RAOF | pitti: Much ta | 13:09 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, it won't mark for upgrade, fails | 13:10 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, looks like I'm caught in dependency hell | 13:14 |
| pitti | BluesKaj: hang on, I'm just fixing someone else's box with that problem | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | ok pitti np, thanks {) | 13:20 |
| pitti | BluesKaj: so what I did here was to apt-get download libudev1 udev, then sudo dpkg -i those, then run apt-get -f install a few times | 13:21 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, not installing dpkg: error processing package initscripts (--configure) | 13:37 |
| BluesKaj | same with sysv-rc systemd and libpam-systemd:amd64 , ran -f install several times after dpkg install | 13:40 |
| xnox | infinity: hey, is procps installed in the buildds? | 13:53 |
| pitti | xnox: killed from -proposed | 13:55 |
| xnox | pitti: tah. | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | looks like I'm jammed up in the dependency vicious cycle :\, pitti afraid the udev and libudev1 wouldn't install | 14:03 |
| pitti | BluesKaj: you need to do apt-get download / dpkg -i, apt won't help :/ | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | I used dpkg -i | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | pitti: is utopic broken again ? :( | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | pitti: http://paste.kde.org/phcz8yo9s | 14:05 |
| pitti | shadeslayer: not as long as you have udev >= ubuntu7 | 14:05 |
| * shadeslayer checks | 14:06 | |
| pitti | shadeslayer: that's -proposed, procps ubuntu4 just got removed | 14:06 |
| pitti | shadeslayer: yes, ubuntu4 is known-broken | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | pitti: ok, I'm using proposed in my pbuilder | 14:06 |
| pitti | shadeslayer: should clear up in some 20 mins | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | cool :) | 14:07 |
| rsalveti | pitti: xnox: wgrant: chroot problems again https://launchpadlibrarian.net/176554996/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.hud_13.10.1%2B14.10.20140529.1-0ubuntu1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz | 14:07 |
| rsalveti | is that known? | 14:08 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#procps | 14:08 |
| xnox | rsalveti: we know, it's fixed, waiting for archive. | 14:08 |
| rsalveti | xnox: great, thanks | 14:08 |
| xnox | rsalveti: "fixed" procps is removed from the archive, waiting for publishing cycle. | 14:08 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, http://privatepaste.com/ea827304ed | 14:12 |
| xnox | wgrant: well, pitti removed the package from the archive already | 14:13 |
| wgrant | We're getting good at that :) | 14:13 |
| xnox | wgrant: =)))) | 14:14 |
| wgrant | Testing obscure Soyuz corner-cases! | 14:14 |
| wgrant | It's just QA. | 14:14 |
| xnox | wgrant: adt testing has caught it, so it wouldn't migrate to -release and break either system or buildds permamentaly. | 14:14 |
| wgrant | Aw :( | 14:14 |
| xnox | wgrant: no surgeries required this time around | 14:14 |
| wgrant | :( | 14:15 |
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| xnox | slangasek: it wasn't dependency problem, it was the fact that in TARGETS the name of the "script/job" was listed, even though it has no dependencies and it's a task in upstart. | 14:15 |
| slangasek | xnox: ah. Well, insserv knows nothing of upstart | 14:15 |
| xnox | slangasek: upstart-tasks with no reverse-dependencies should be in TARGETS, since unlike debian we do not support sysv-init boot. | 14:15 |
| slangasek | insserv and startpar are two separate pieces | 14:16 |
| xnox | (reverse-initd-dependencies) | 14:16 |
| xnox | slangasek: hm. ok. | 14:16 |
| xnox | slangasek: let me look into startpar. | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | yup, and I'm stuck in between | 14:16 |
| xnox | slangasek: the alternative is to remove upstart-task jobs, if there is an init.d script..... and just use init.d script </troll> | 14:17 |
| mdeslaur | xnox: so...when a package only has an upstart job, and the user is using systemd, the debhelper stuff explodes when invoke-rc.d is run... | 14:17 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: fixed in ubuntu6 debhelper upload + needs rebuilds. | 14:17 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: e.g. kernel needs rebuild because of linux-cloud-tools-common | 14:18 |
| mdeslaur | xnox: that fix won't work | 14:19 |
| mdeslaur | well wait, let me look at it again | 14:20 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: if, and only if init.d script is exucatable -> run update-rc.d | 14:21 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: invoke-rc.d can be run against any of upstart/sysvinit/systemd | 14:21 |
| xnox | (and well should be run) | 14:21 |
| mdeslaur | xnox: if there's only an upstart job, and systemd is running, invoke-rc.d gets called with start, but then fails because there is no systemd job | 14:22 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: yes. | 14:22 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: that's intentional. | 14:22 |
| mdeslaur | uhm, why? | 14:23 |
| slangasek | mdeslaur: the package shouldn't be considered configured until the service is started; the service cannot be started because it's not supported on the running init | 14:23 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: well, not intentional. but current status quo, with the fact that systemd migration has not been complete and ubuntu, unlike debian, has allowed adding upstart jobs without shipping an init.d script. | 14:23 |
| slangasek | so it needs to be fixed to integrate | 14:23 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: the fix is to either ship init.d script + upstart job, or to ship init.d script + systemd + upstart | 14:23 |
| mdeslaur | slangasek, xnox: ah, ok, thanks | 14:24 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: currently we don't support shipping just systemd units or (systemd unit + upstart job) | 14:24 |
| xnox | rsalveti: shadeslayer: chroots should be fine now. | 14:25 |
| sarnold | love it. to move from one init to another init we need to support a third init that we dropped absolute yonks ago.. | 14:25 |
| slangasek | I'm confused why that's a requirement | 14:26 |
| slangasek | it's a requirement for Debian; shouldn't be for Ubuntu | 14:26 |
| xnox | sarnold: we never dropped it absolutely..... upstart execs rc at both boot, each of the runlevel, and shutdown. | 14:26 |
| xnox | slangasek: at least dh_installinit doesn't support it at the moment. | 14:26 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: we can ship upstart + systemd | 14:26 |
| xnox | slangasek: although maybe it's achieved with dh_systemd, not sure. | 14:26 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: i didn't try doing that yet. | 14:27 |
| slangasek | xnox: which piece is unsupported? | 14:27 |
| mdeslaur | oh, sorry, yeah, that's what xnox said | 14:27 |
| slangasek | update-rc.d not being called? | 14:27 |
| xnox | slangasek: invoke-rc.d start is not called by dh_installinit alone. | 14:27 |
| xnox | slangasek: unless one must use dh_systemd, which i am not familiar with, and maybe that does something else..... | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: still waiting for sync to mirror :) | 14:28 |
| slangasek | mm | 14:28 |
| xnox | sarnold: rather we try to support both upstart & systemd at the same time. And then involves extra work to integrate startpar. | 14:30 |
| mdeslaur | *grumble* | 14:31 |
| sarnold | xnox: I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean, I surely haven't looked at it as much as you, it just caught my fancy that we've got to add an old sysv script to make this transition happen.. | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | mdeslaur, why do you grumble ? at least there are no security issues on a system that does not boot | 14:32 |
| xnox | sarnold: it is hallarious. In a way migration to upstart never actually was completed =) thus it's all just one big multi-year transition =))))))))))))))))))))) | 14:34 |
| mdeslaur | ogra_: I'll just symlink my init.d script to /sbin/halt | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | +1 | 14:34 |
| xnox | mdeslaur: emacs; /sbin/halt =)))) | 14:35 |
| pitti | BluesKaj: well yes, dpkg -i takes a .deb file, not a package name; so sudo dpkg -i libudev1_*.deb | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | xnox, you sure that shouldnt be systemd-emacs ? | 14:38 |
| mdeslaur | ogra_: you better be touching wood right now | 14:39 |
| hallyn | ok, only took me 3 hours to give up on trying to get normal login to work by hacking upstart scripts, and just hack tty[2-5].conf to start on local-filesystems | 15:23 |
| hallyn | ah goodie, so now that i can log in i can read email and see pitti's email :) | 15:25 |
| hallyn | really i don't know why /etc/ttyn.conf don't always start on local-filesystems. think i'll keep it that way here | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | pitti, thanks for your help, there were some rc.d warnings, but all sems fine now :) | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | on 2 machines btw | 15:36 |
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| hallyn | so is the fact that today lxc upgrades keep complaining that /etc/init.d/lxc-instance does not exist also related to the utopic init scrits change? | 16:34 |
| hallyn | or did i just mess myself up somehow | 16:34 |
| hallyn | oh, perhaps related to what xnox said above | 16:34 |
| slangasek | hallyn: yes, lxc needs a no-change rebuild w/ current debhelper | 16:35 |
| hallyn | do i need to push that as a new source version, or can that be triggered another way? | 16:35 |
| hallyn | oh actually i get mine from the ubuntu-lxc ppa anyway. stgraber can you force a rebuild there? | 16:36 |
| hallyn | i'll see if the version in archive actually dtrt | 16:36 |
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| rbasak | hallyn: if binaries have been published in the archive (doesn't matter which pocket), then you need to do a new upload with a bumped version number. "dch -R" does the right thing I think. | 16:50 |
| rbasak | (if you need to) | 16:51 |
| rbasak | The same applies in a given PPA, too. You can't have new rebuilt binaries with the same version as previously published binaries in a given archive. | 16:53 |
| hallyn | yeah i know how to do it tha tway, seemed plausible there'd be some switch which a few people could pull when it needed to be done at scale :) | 16:57 |
| hallyn | though actually -R doesn't seem to dtrt... (will do it manually) | 17:00 |
| rbasak | At scale: "dch -R" in a for loop is what I think everyone does :) | 17:05 |
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| hallyn | rbasak: you ppl trusting your gpg agnets... :) | 17:30 |
| hallyn | rbasak: i do wonder why dch -R didn't work for me. it just bumped the version # as usual | 17:30 |
| hallyn | i mean, i prefer to choose by hand anyway, just wondering... | 17:30 |
| rbasak | hallyn: AIUI, for a no change rebuild of a synced package, it should append build1 (or bump to build2, etc). And for a package with an Ubuntu delta, then the ubuntu1 will get bumped to ubuntu2 etc. | 17:31 |
| rbasak | Then everything else (eg. autosyncs) behave right | 17:31 |
| rbasak | So maybe it needed to just bump the version, if you already had an Ubuntu delta? | 17:32 |
| hallyn | hm | 17:37 |
| hallyn | i guess that makes sense, except it's not as informative... but thx | 17:38 |
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| Noskcaj_ | My 14.10 install is now stuck at the | 20:22 |
| Noskcaj_ | "checking disk" part of startup | 20:22 |
| Noskcaj_ | Is this a known issue? | 20:23 |
| sarnold | Noskcaj_: seen this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-May/038333.html | 20:25 |
| Noskcaj_ | sarnold: Yeah, I've already tried the first workaround, wasn't sure it was related | 20:26 |
| sarnold | Noskcaj_: ah, okay :) | 20:26 |
| Noskcaj_ | It says boot into resuce mode. How do you do that? | 20:36 |
| slangasek | shift at the grub menu, choose the rescue option from the advanced menu | 20:37 |
| sarnold | if your grub doesn't have it, add recovery nomodeset to the kernel command line | 20:38 |
| Noskcaj_ | ok | 20:39 |
| Noskcaj_ | recovery mode? | 20:39 |
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| Noskcaj | jpds, There's a new upstream git change for efitools, is it worth packaging? http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/jejb/efitools.git/commit/?id=c33fc28e6be00ac0bfae7fcff48170830a4730d8 | 21:37 |
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| Unit193 | Forgot to put a dest in dput again, I need to change 'ubuntu' from being default. >_> | 23:24 |
| fdafweaf | The Stats page for myapps.developer.ubuntu.com indicates that i have 17 downloads of my app, and it shows a pie chart breakdown by country, but the line graph at the top of the page doesn't have any data in it | 23:26 |
| fdafweaf | Is that correct behavior? | 23:26 |
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| Logan_ | Unit193: I'm disappointed in you | 23:58 |
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