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mapphey all05:31
MartijnVdShey mapp05:32
mapplovely weather here again05:34
mapprain rain rain:)05:34
MartijnVdSOh, it's just very grey here :)05:34
mapp;]05:34
diddledansteam just got better05:35
MartijnVdSit did?05:35
diddledansteam stream05:35
diddledanyou can leave a box with a meaty gfx card in a cupboard for all your games and run them remotely on a system that wouldn't ordinarily run the game05:36
mappcool05:36
MartijnVdSyeah.. but I don't have a cupboard to put such a machine in.. and my meatiest gfx card is in my i705:36
diddledaneven better is that if you still have any games that are windows-only you can still run them on linux via steam stream05:37
MartijnVdSyeah that would work i guess05:38
diddledantechnically they're running on a windows box but your every-day machine can still be linux05:38
MartijnVdSI need to update my Windows machine05:48
MartijnVdSbut I'm afraid it'll cry because changing motherboard leads to them extorting more money for a new license05:48
MooDoomorning all05:59
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diddledan_morning08:02
bashrcmorning08:03
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Learn About Composting Day! :-D08:19
MooDoomorning08:19
DJonesHah, this is what happens when you undertake at speed http://static.ilyke.net/uploads/2014/04/30/sub/51288-ilyke.net-large-2v8n0h5.jpg08:21
MooDooouch and serves them right08:22
DJonesYep, I find that quite funny08:23
davmor2JamesTait: you are just weird :P08:24
davmor2Morning all08:24
JamesTaitdavmor2, I love you too, mate! :-P08:25
MooDoomorning davmor208:25
davmor2JamesTait: Well obviously or our 6 week trudge around Frankfurt airport would of been for nothing :D08:26
JamesTait6 weeks?08:27
JamesTaitIt felt like longer than that....08:27
davmor2JamesTait: hahaha08:27
davmor2JamesTait: it was one big joke really :)08:28
JamesTaitdavmor2, and the aborted landing was the punchline?08:28
davmor2JamesTait: I thought the taxi breaking down was the punchline08:29
JamesTaitHahah!08:29
davmor2JamesTait: that or the gate change to the other end of the aiport08:29
davmor2airport even08:29
JamesTaitIf nothing else, it was eventful.08:30
davmor2JamesTait: well you had to laugh or you'd cry08:30
JamesTaitAnd there I was, in the lead up to the sprint, thinking "well at least it's pretty close this time.  No 14-hour trans-atlantic flight.  Should be comparatively relaxed."08:33
JamesTaitIt's all my fault.08:33
MooDooJamesTait: naughty naughty very naughty08:38
JamesTaitMooDoo, got any salmon?08:38
MooDoolol08:39
JamesTaitShhhh! We're showing our age!08:39
MooDooJamesTait: i'm only 2208:39
MooDooahem08:39
JamesTaitDo you only count the even years? :-P08:40
MooDoolol08:40
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trilitheus\leave09:25
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:39
davmor2JamesTait: wrong one he only counts the odd years, he's never been even ;)09:41
MooDoobrobostigon: hello09:41
MooDoodavmor2: shush you09:42
MooDoodavmor2: I'm so not the oldest in here :p09:42
JamesTaitMorning, brobostigon. :)09:42
brobostigonmorning MooDoo and JamesTait09:42
davmor2MooDoo: well I think you and popey were both born in the same year if that helps :D09:43
MooDoodavmor2: he's soooooo older than me09:43
davmor2MooDoo: How many minutes is Soooooo older?09:44
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: is older than me ☻09:44
TheOpenSourcererOI09:44
MooDoodavmor2: I don't know to be honest I'm April09:44
TheOpenSourcererI may be somewhat older but I still feel like a big kid ;-)09:45
davmor2MooDoo: I think that makes you older than popey too then :P09:45
MooDoodavmor2: ah crap09:45
MooDoooops09:45
foobarryi know coldplay get criticised but the music is not that bad. except for the latest album which is completely soulless09:46
davmor2TheOpenSourcerer: That's cause you are :)  You're a bloke and you're a geek there is no way on this earth that you are not going to be a big kid :)09:46
foobarrysaw an unusual bird yesterdy, cannot find it on the rspb site10:34
TwistedLucidityHow does one abort an install that's started? Tried to install Solaar and now it wants to install GDM and a bunch of other cruft I don't want.10:34
andylockranctrl+c ?10:34
TwistedLucidityStarted in Muon - can't find a cancel option.10:34
TwistedLuciditySeems to be install the whole of Gnome. Rats.10:35
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Solaar can see my Logitech reciever, but can't open it. Thanks for the tip on Solarr; I'll dig into this permission grief....11:02
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davmor2TwistedLucidity: oh :(11:05
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: I've probably not added myself to the right group or something daft. I'm pleased it can see the receiver though.11:09
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Yup - I need to add myself to "plugdev" and it seems KDE has no way of managing group membership by default. Ho hum.11:19
davmor2TwistedLucidity: shuggin fashin kde11:20
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: It's got some nice features, but there are times.....11:20
davmor2TwistedLucidity: I love the kubuntu team they do some great work with upstream KDE they are well respected and produce a really nice desktop, On the down side I hate kde as a desktop it just scrambles my head sometimes.  I do however love some of the apps :)11:23
Myrttiday off ♥11:28
andylockranMyrtti: jealous11:28
Myrttiandylockran: well, I'm more jealous of the sensible way of dealing with bank holidays11:29
Myrtti1st of May is a day off no matter what day of the week it is, and if it falls on the weekend, then, oh well.11:29
MyrttiAscension Day is always a day off, who cares it's a Thursday and you need to return to work for Friday11:30
davmor2Myrtti: muhahahahahaha11:31
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TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Guess who has the exact reveiver Solaar doesn't support? Story of my life... LOL11:50
davmor2TwistedLucidity: D'oh11:51
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:53
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Seeing as how the batteries last a year or so (and the mouse has a "Low battery" warning light) it's not a huge issue. Would have been nice though.11:53
TwistedLucidityWill have to try the cheapie TekNet mouse I bought - see if that gets picked up by anything11:53
davmor2TwistedLucidity: haha11:54
bigcalmVLC used to give 2 interfaces when opening 2 different files. Now it only plays in one interface. Anybody know how to restore the previous functionality?12:20
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davmor2bigcalm: look at the options?12:35
davmor2bigcalm: at a guess view12:35
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popeyhttp://oggcamp.org/12:47
dutchiei had to think for a surprisingly long time about where the oxford hotel is12:50
dutchieand i have been a student here for 4 years12:51
Myrttiwhee, it's not in Liverpool this time13:03
foobarrywow13:03
foobarryargh i think my wife is on a hen weekend the we/nd13:04
bigcalmOxford?!13:04
bigcalmBit closer to home for us13:04
bigcalmOh joy13:06
bigcalmIt's the same weekend as PHPNW1413:06
bigcalmWhich one do I miss this year?13:07
popeyPHP is overrated13:14
popey13:14
davmor2bigcalm: people still use php?13:15
davmor2:D13:15
dauberspopey: True, also an Oggcamp question while people are on the subject13:16
dauberswill there be an openhardware thing again?13:16
daubersIf so, I'll need to rouse Reading Hackspace into action13:16
popeydaubers: no idea, I'm not organising this year, marxjohnson is13:17
dauberspopey: Best to tweet/email/gplus/stalk him?13:17
popeyyes13:17
daubersWhich is best :)13:17
popeyor the @oggcamp account, or both13:18
popeytwitter13:18
daubersokies :) Will do13:18
daubersmissed it last year, if it's in Oxford this year I have no excuse13:19
popeyyeah, should be a lot easier for everyone13:19
popey*except neuro13:19
daubers:)13:19
popey(who wouldn't come anyway unless it was at the end of his road) ㋛13:19
ahayzen_Oxford?! wht usually happens at oggcamp?13:20
SuperMatthttp://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/8718656438813:20
popeyOpen Softare, Open Culture, Open Hardware, hacking.. discussion, talks13:20
davmor2ahayzen_: geeks get together and do geek stuff13:21
popeythat13:21
* ahayzen_ studies at oxford brookes13:21
ahayzen_davmor2, sweet!13:21
* SuperMatt studies at the school of hard knockers13:21
davmor2SuperMatt: that's disgusting, shame on you :)13:23
SuperMattsorry13:24
SuperMattI couldn't resist13:24
ahayzen_lol13:24
neuropopey: what the?13:24
popeyheh, j/k13:24
neuroplease not to be joking13:24
daftykinsneuro: is it not accurate? :D13:25
neuroi'm gutted i've missed the last LRL and all the oggcamps13:25
popeyawww13:25
neurodaftykins: seriously, shush13:25
daftykinsd'aww why so serious, sir13:26
neuroshhhhhhhh13:26
daftykinshmm put a HDD that's twice as fast in benchmarks, in this old late 2007 macbook13:27
* bigcalm does not feed the popey & davmor2 trolls13:27
daftykins2.74GB of updates for OS X Lion13:27
davmor2bigcalm: awwwww nice you think I was trolling :D13:28
Armag3dd0n1sup uk peeps :p13:39
popeyword13:41
SuperMattyo13:43
* SuperMatt wonders who this Armag3dd0n1 is to stroll on to our turf13:43
MooDooSuperMatt: does it matter?  Armag3dd0n1 welcome :D13:44
SuperMattshh13:44
SuperMattI was trying to be all gangsta and indimidating13:44
davmor2SuperMatt: you're doing it wrong. A simple "Muhahahahahahahaha another victim" should suffice :)13:45
SuperMattmaybe that's what I'm doing wrong13:46
SuperMattMuhahahahahahahaa, another victim!13:46
* SuperMatt eyes up jmg_ 13:46
* Armag3dd0n1 laughs13:46
MooDooYou don't have to be mad to come in here, but it helps13:47
popeyAre google helpouts still a thing?13:48
popeyI signed up and got accepted but not used it yet13:49
SuperMattyes they are13:49
MooDoothey are still about I've only just got mine myself, it took ages.13:49
SuperMattbut I'm not doing them any more13:49
SuperMattturns out working as a racker takes up a lot of time13:49
SuperMattthat and my dancing and my running13:49
SuperMattso something had to be let go13:49
MooDoopopey: we were having a play with this at some point - http://www.ubuntu-helpouts.org/13:49
daftykinsSuperMatt: dancing, sir?13:50
SuperMattdancing!13:50
SuperMattI shall be performing for the Queen herself in a matter of weeks13:50
davmor2SuperMatt: wearing a pink tutu at the weekend does not make you a dancer13:51
SuperMattoh, sick burn!13:51
SuperMattit'd be such a shame if I didn't have VIDEO EVIDENCE!13:51
SuperMatthttp://youtu.be/aXcgdg3AnA013:52
MooDoodavmor2: I prefer purple and green tuutuus, pink ones just make you look silly13:52
* daftykins tries to spot SuperMatt 13:52
SuperMattdaftykins: it's not difficult if you know what I look like14:01
daftykinslol14:02
diddledan_MooDoo, I just requested an invite code from google so when that arrives I might have to be reminded of the ubuntu-helpouts.org addy14:03
MooDoodiddledan_: no probs :D14:26
daftykinsanyone ever reported a firefox bug before?15:03
daftykinswell, this one's more a design fail15:03
Armag3dd0n1nope15:03
TwistedLucidityYes15:04
TwistedLucidityReminds me, they want some tests run.15:04
daftykinsTwistedLucidity: oh?15:06
TwistedLuciditydaftykins: Yeah. The folks I'm talking too seem pretty on the ball. Like they actually give a damn.15:07
daftykins:O ooh do you have a channel with some worth prodding?15:07
TwistedLucidityBugzilla15:09
daftykinsjust the site itself?15:09
TwistedLucidityYeah15:09
TwistedLucidityMy issue was an actual crash. If it's a design "thing" then, depending on the "thing", it may need to go through a different channel.15:10
daftykins*nod*15:10
TwistedLucidityAs the "thing" might be a matter of opinion. Bound to an IRC/subreddit/mail-list/design-cabal somewhere15:10
ali1234i have reported a few15:12
daftykinshilariously i've upped an image to an image site and yet its' address doesn't work15:14
TwistedLucidityFor that kinda muck I use imgur. Seems to be OK.15:15
daftykinsyeah that's where i was15:16
daftykinsthe exact image ID isn't working on any other computer XD15:16
TwistedLucidityOn the right there should be various links. Maybe it take a moment to get cached/stored?15:17
daftykinsnot quite my first foray into such things, it's definitely gone wonky15:17
daftykinshttp://i.imgur.com/ogx8gQ0.png15:18
TwistedLucidityYou just need a bigger stick15:19
daftykinsthat's better15:19
daftykinssecond time15:19
TwistedLucidityMac user? BURN THE UNBELIEVER!15:19
TwistedLucidity:-P15:19
daftykinssetting up a friends as it goes.15:20
TwistedLucidityI'm only teasing15:20
ali1234what's the problem?15:20
daftykinsi know, but i definitely don't want to be associated with buying apple gear15:20
daftykinsali1234: it's very minor really, but you can't dismiss the tour before selecting an answer to the default browser question - which if you're picking yes, you can't do :)15:21
daftykinsthe only route is to manually drag out the window to get it to not overlap15:21
ali1234just maximize the window?15:21
TwistedLucidityMinor, but annoying. Yes.15:22
daftykinsright, but the top right window control doesn't work in that instance so you have to drag it out15:22
daftykinsi just don't think new users should be met with this on initial run15:22
daftykinsit'll make them pick no :)15:22
bashrcI wouldn't buy apple gear.  I just don't like the closedness15:23
TwistedLucidityI like the build quality and the design of some things. I lack the deep pockets.15:23
TwistedLucidityAlso, I like being able to fix my kit.15:23
ali1234i would buy the apple hardware but i wouldn't be able to run OS X because it's just so ugly and difficult to use15:26
daftykinsindeed, very poor window management15:28
ali1234those icons tho15:29
ali1234i've only just noticed that the panel is a trapezoid because it's supposed to be 3d. lol15:31
ali1234i always thought it was just a weird shape15:31
ali1234that explains the ugly reflections too15:31
daftykins:D15:32
daftykinsthat sounds more personal though15:32
TwistedLucidityThere's a few things like that for GNU/Linux too. Never go on with them. Too hard to see what was running.15:32
ali1234it's almost like... a shelf15:32
ali1234TwistedLucidity: yes, unity being the most commonly used15:33
TwistedLucidityali1234: Was thinking for of Cairo Dock or whatever it was called. Can't get along with Unity either. :-(15:34
ali1234unity at least looks nice15:34
foobarryTwistedLucidity: elementary frw15:34
TwistedLucidityThta's a matter of opinion15:34
TwistedLuciditywhoops15:34
ali1234the thing about opinions is that mine are all correct15:34
TwistedLucidityrofl15:35
daftykinsthat's just incredibly grating to read :P15:36
andylockranhow cna you see your own full connection string?16:25
andylockrani.e.17:13 -!- TheOpenSourcerer [~alord@host217-36-92-70.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-uk []16:25
popeywhois yourself ?16:25
andylockranwhois andylockran16:25
daftykinswhois user user16:25
popeylol16:25
popey /whois16:25
andylockranoops16:25
andylockranmy rdNS doesn't appear to be working :(16:26
daftykinsd'aww16:26
daftykinsit's all about SASL auth16:26
andylockran /msg nickserv auth sasl16:26
jussicripes, its been a long time...16:26
daftykinsand masking it anyway ;D16:26
jussiRegistered : Dec 13 17:16:22 2006 (7 years, 24 weeks, 0 days, 23:09:19 ago)16:26
andylockranthis nickname is already taken16:26
andylockran:p16:26
daftykinsandylockran: if that was a joke i don't know what to think :(16:27
andylockranI'm just being daft16:27
daftykinsi know, that's my job!16:27
andylockrandu-du -tsh16:27
popey17:28:22 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Apr 09 12:34:28 2004 (10 years, 7 weeks, 3 days, 03:53:53 ago)16:28
popey\o/16:28
andylockranhow do you work that out?16:28
jussipopey: you old fart :P16:28
popey /msg nickserv info16:28
popeyheh16:28
jussiandylockran: /msg nickserv info andylockran16:28
andylockran'm a baby16:29
andylockran17:29 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Jul 06 09:24:13 2007 (6 years, 47 weeks, 0 days, 07:04:58 ago)16:29
MyrttirDNS has nothing to do with authentication...16:30
jussiandylockran: you can see a limitd subset of other people also16:30
Myrtticloaking does, however16:30
jussiandylockran: /msg nickserv info nikname16:30
andylockranMyrtti: doesn't it show the rDNS after the @ if you've got it set16:31
andylockranwhen i logged into IRC from my old bitfolk box that used to show up with the rDNS addess16:31
Myrttimmmmmh I haven't a clue how you've got stuff configured, but sure16:35
daftykinsMyrtti: yeah i was kinda assuming someone'd have a cloak16:49
daftykinsthey're related in my eyes :P16:49
diddledanand back17:31
mappyo17:37
knightwisehey guys :)18:09
popeyhiya18:11
knightwisepopey, when you installed Ubuntu on your macbook pro , do you have any idea what resolution you got ?18:12
knightwise1280 by 800 or 1440 by 90018:12
knightwisei think its 1280 by 800,18:15
knightwise14.04 is running nice on that machine :)18:15
knightwisethe only thing is ... I installed grub on the wrong partition ...18:15
popeyknack native18:19
popeybah18:19
knightwisehmm.. i just installed Grub on the wrong partition.18:25
Armag3dd0n24yoo ;20:51
Colin_brrrrrHello everyone.....20:51
Colin_brrrrrI have a question for you, my cmd/code is not working20:51
Colin_brrrrrMy $find . -type f -iname 'thumbs.db' -print0 | xargs -0 cp -t /output_folder/20:52
Colin_brrrrrit works in the sense that it finds my files and copies them out but because they all have the same name they overwrite each one and i have only one left20:53
Colin_brrrrrwhat am i doing wrong ???20:53
Colin_brrrrrprobably want to add an incremental value to append to the name or something like that20:54
Colin_brrrrrlololo21:15
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