[05:31] <mapp> hey all
[05:32] <MartijnVdS> hey mapp
[05:34] <mapp> lovely weather here again
[05:34] <mapp> rain rain rain:)
[05:34] <MartijnVdS> Oh, it's just very grey here :)
[05:34] <mapp> ;]
[05:35] <diddledan> steam just got better
[05:35] <MartijnVdS> it did?
[05:35] <diddledan> steam stream
[05:36] <diddledan> you can leave a box with a meaty gfx card in a cupboard for all your games and run them remotely on a system that wouldn't ordinarily run the game
[05:36] <mapp> cool
[05:36] <MartijnVdS> yeah.. but I don't have a cupboard to put such a machine in.. and my meatiest gfx card is in my i7
[05:37] <diddledan> even better is that if you still have any games that are windows-only you can still run them on linux via steam stream
[05:38] <MartijnVdS> yeah that would work i guess
[05:38] <diddledan> technically they're running on a windows box but your every-day machine can still be linux
[05:48] <MartijnVdS> I need to update my Windows machine
[05:48] <MartijnVdS> but I'm afraid it'll cry because changing motherboard leads to them extorting more money for a new license
[05:59] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:02] <diddledan_> morning
[08:03] <bashrc> morning
[08:19] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Learn About Composting Day! :-D
[08:19] <MooDoo> morning
[08:21] <DJones> Hah, this is what happens when you undertake at speed http://static.ilyke.net/uploads/2014/04/30/sub/51288-ilyke.net-large-2v8n0h5.jpg
[08:22] <MooDoo> ouch and serves them right
[08:23] <DJones> Yep, I find that quite funny
[08:24] <davmor2> JamesTait: you are just weird :P
[08:24] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:25] <JamesTait> davmor2, I love you too, mate! :-P
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: Well obviously or our 6 week trudge around Frankfurt airport would of been for nothing :D
[08:27] <JamesTait> 6 weeks?
[08:27] <JamesTait> It felt like longer than that....
[08:27] <davmor2> JamesTait: hahaha
[08:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: it was one big joke really :)
[08:28] <JamesTait> davmor2, and the aborted landing was the punchline?
[08:29] <davmor2> JamesTait: I thought the taxi breaking down was the punchline
[08:29] <JamesTait> Hahah!
[08:29] <davmor2> JamesTait: that or the gate change to the other end of the aiport
[08:29] <davmor2> airport even
[08:30] <JamesTait> If nothing else, it was eventful.
[08:30] <davmor2> JamesTait: well you had to laugh or you'd cry
[08:33] <JamesTait> And there I was, in the lead up to the sprint, thinking "well at least it's pretty close this time.  No 14-hour trans-atlantic flight.  Should be comparatively relaxed."
[08:33] <JamesTait> It's all my fault.
[08:38] <MooDoo> JamesTait: naughty naughty very naughty
[08:38] <JamesTait> MooDoo, got any salmon?
[08:39] <MooDoo> lol
[08:39] <JamesTait> Shhhh! We're showing our age!
[08:39] <MooDoo> JamesTait: i'm only 22
[08:39] <MooDoo> ahem
[08:40] <JamesTait> Do you only count the even years? :-P
[08:40] <MooDoo> lol
[09:25] <trilitheus> \leave
[09:39] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:41] <davmor2> JamesTait: wrong one he only counts the odd years, he's never been even ;)
[09:41] <MooDoo> brobostigon: hello
[09:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: shush you
[09:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: I'm so not the oldest in here :p
[09:42] <JamesTait> Morning, brobostigon. :)
[09:42] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo and JamesTait
[09:43] <davmor2> MooDoo: well I think you and popey were both born in the same year if that helps :D
[09:43] <MooDoo> davmor2: he's soooooo older than me
[09:44] <davmor2> MooDoo: How many minutes is Soooooo older?
[09:44] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: is older than me ☻
[09:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> OI
[09:44] <MooDoo> davmor2: I don't know to be honest I'm April
[09:45] <TheOpenSourcerer> I may be somewhat older but I still feel like a big kid ;-)
[09:45] <davmor2> MooDoo: I think that makes you older than popey too then :P
[09:45] <MooDoo> davmor2: ah crap
[09:45] <MooDoo> oops
[09:46] <foobarry> i know coldplay get criticised but the music is not that bad. except for the latest album which is completely soulless
[09:46] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: That's cause you are :)  You're a bloke and you're a geek there is no way on this earth that you are not going to be a big kid :)
[10:34] <foobarry> saw an unusual bird yesterdy, cannot find it on the rspb site
[10:34] <TwistedLucidity> How does one abort an install that's started? Tried to install Solaar and now it wants to install GDM and a bunch of other cruft I don't want.
[10:34] <andylockran> ctrl+c ?
[10:34] <TwistedLucidity> Started in Muon - can't find a cancel option.
[10:35] <TwistedLucidity> Seems to be install the whole of Gnome. Rats.
[11:02] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Solaar can see my Logitech reciever, but can't open it. Thanks for the tip on Solarr; I'll dig into this permission grief....
[11:05] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: oh :(
[11:09] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: I've probably not added myself to the right group or something daft. I'm pleased it can see the receiver though.
[11:19] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Yup - I need to add myself to "plugdev" and it seems KDE has no way of managing group membership by default. Ho hum.
[11:20] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: shuggin fashin kde
[11:20] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: It's got some nice features, but there are times.....
[11:23] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: I love the kubuntu team they do some great work with upstream KDE they are well respected and produce a really nice desktop, On the down side I hate kde as a desktop it just scrambles my head sometimes.  I do however love some of the apps :)
[11:28] <Myrtti> day off ♥
[11:28] <andylockran> Myrtti: jealous
[11:29] <Myrtti> andylockran: well, I'm more jealous of the sensible way of dealing with bank holidays
[11:29] <Myrtti> 1st of May is a day off no matter what day of the week it is, and if it falls on the weekend, then, oh well.
[11:30] <Myrtti> Ascension Day is always a day off, who cares it's a Thursday and you need to return to work for Friday
[11:31] <davmor2> Myrtti: muhahahahahaha
[11:50] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Guess who has the exact reveiver Solaar doesn't support? Story of my life... LOL
[11:51] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: D'oh
[11:53] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:53] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Seeing as how the batteries last a year or so (and the mouse has a "Low battery" warning light) it's not a huge issue. Would have been nice though.
[11:53] <TwistedLucidity> Will have to try the cheapie TekNet mouse I bought - see if that gets picked up by anything
[11:54] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: haha
[12:20] <bigcalm> VLC used to give 2 interfaces when opening 2 different files. Now it only plays in one interface. Anybody know how to restore the previous functionality?
[12:35] <davmor2> bigcalm: look at the options?
[12:35] <davmor2> bigcalm: at a guess view
[12:47] <popey> http://oggcamp.org/ ☻
[12:50] <dutchie> i had to think for a surprisingly long time about where the oxford hotel is
[12:51] <dutchie> and i have been a student here for 4 years
[13:03] <Myrtti> whee, it's not in Liverpool this time
[13:03] <foobarry> wow
[13:04] <foobarry> argh i think my wife is on a hen weekend the we/nd
[13:04] <bigcalm> Oxford?!
[13:04] <bigcalm> Bit closer to home for us
[13:06] <bigcalm> Oh joy
[13:06] <bigcalm> It's the same weekend as PHPNW14
[13:07] <bigcalm> Which one do I miss this year?
[13:14] <popey> PHP is overrated
[13:14] <popey> ☻
[13:15] <davmor2> bigcalm: people still use php?
[13:15] <davmor2> :D
[13:16] <daubers> popey: True, also an Oggcamp question while people are on the subject
[13:16] <daubers> will there be an openhardware thing again?
[13:16] <daubers> If so, I'll need to rouse Reading Hackspace into action
[13:17] <popey> daubers: no idea, I'm not organising this year, marxjohnson is
[13:17] <daubers> popey: Best to tweet/email/gplus/stalk him?
[13:17] <popey> yes
[13:17] <daubers> Which is best :)
[13:18] <popey> or the @oggcamp account, or both
[13:18] <popey> twitter
[13:18] <daubers> okies :) Will do
[13:19] <daubers> missed it last year, if it's in Oxford this year I have no excuse
[13:19] <popey> yeah, should be a lot easier for everyone
[13:19] <popey> *except neuro
[13:19] <daubers> :)
[13:19] <popey> (who wouldn't come anyway unless it was at the end of his road) ㋛
[13:20] <ahayzen_> Oxford?! wht usually happens at oggcamp?
[13:20] <SuperMatt> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/87186564388
[13:20] <popey> Open Softare, Open Culture, Open Hardware, hacking.. discussion, talks
[13:21] <davmor2> ahayzen_: geeks get together and do geek stuff
[13:21] <popey> that
[13:21]  * ahayzen_ studies at oxford brookes
[13:21] <ahayzen_> davmor2, sweet!
[13:21]  * SuperMatt studies at the school of hard knockers
[13:23] <davmor2> SuperMatt: that's disgusting, shame on you :)
[13:24] <SuperMatt> sorry
[13:24] <SuperMatt> I couldn't resist
[13:24] <ahayzen_> lol
[13:24] <neuro> popey: what the?
[13:24] <popey> heh, j/k
[13:24] <neuro> please not to be joking
[13:25] <daftykins> neuro: is it not accurate? :D
[13:25] <neuro> i'm gutted i've missed the last LRL and all the oggcamps
[13:25] <popey> awww
[13:25] <neuro> daftykins: seriously, shush
[13:26] <daftykins> d'aww why so serious, sir
[13:26] <neuro> shhhhhhhh
[13:27] <daftykins> hmm put a HDD that's twice as fast in benchmarks, in this old late 2007 macbook
[13:27]  * bigcalm does not feed the popey & davmor2 trolls
[13:27] <daftykins> 2.74GB of updates for OS X Lion
[13:28] <davmor2> bigcalm: awwwww nice you think I was trolling :D
[13:39] <Armag3dd0n1> sup uk peeps :p
[13:41] <popey> word
[13:43] <SuperMatt> yo
[13:43]  * SuperMatt wonders who this Armag3dd0n1 is to stroll on to our turf
[13:44] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: does it matter?  Armag3dd0n1 welcome :D
[13:44] <SuperMatt> shh
[13:44] <SuperMatt> I was trying to be all gangsta and indimidating
[13:45] <davmor2> SuperMatt: you're doing it wrong. A simple "Muhahahahahahahaha another victim" should suffice :)
[13:46] <SuperMatt> maybe that's what I'm doing wrong
[13:46] <SuperMatt> Muhahahahahahahaa, another victim!
[13:46]  * SuperMatt eyes up jmg_ 
[13:46]  * Armag3dd0n1 laughs
[13:47] <MooDoo> You don't have to be mad to come in here, but it helps
[13:48] <popey> Are google helpouts still a thing?
[13:49] <popey> I signed up and got accepted but not used it yet
[13:49] <SuperMatt> yes they are
[13:49] <MooDoo> they are still about I've only just got mine myself, it took ages.
[13:49] <SuperMatt> but I'm not doing them any more
[13:49] <SuperMatt> turns out working as a racker takes up a lot of time
[13:49] <SuperMatt> that and my dancing and my running
[13:49] <SuperMatt> so something had to be let go
[13:49] <MooDoo> popey: we were having a play with this at some point - http://www.ubuntu-helpouts.org/
[13:50] <daftykins> SuperMatt: dancing, sir?
[13:50] <SuperMatt> dancing!
[13:50] <SuperMatt> I shall be performing for the Queen herself in a matter of weeks
[13:51] <davmor2> SuperMatt: wearing a pink tutu at the weekend does not make you a dancer
[13:51] <SuperMatt> oh, sick burn!
[13:51] <SuperMatt> it'd be such a shame if I didn't have VIDEO EVIDENCE!
[13:52] <SuperMatt> http://youtu.be/aXcgdg3AnA0
[13:52] <MooDoo> davmor2: I prefer purple and green tuutuus, pink ones just make you look silly
[13:52]  * daftykins tries to spot SuperMatt 
[14:01] <SuperMatt> daftykins: it's not difficult if you know what I look like
[14:02] <daftykins> lol
[14:03] <diddledan_> MooDoo, I just requested an invite code from google so when that arrives I might have to be reminded of the ubuntu-helpouts.org addy
[14:26] <MooDoo> diddledan_: no probs :D
[15:03] <daftykins> anyone ever reported a firefox bug before?
[15:03] <daftykins> well, this one's more a design fail
[15:03] <Armag3dd0n1> nope
[15:04] <TwistedLucidity> Yes
[15:04] <TwistedLucidity> Reminds me, they want some tests run.
[15:06] <daftykins> TwistedLucidity: oh?
[15:07] <TwistedLucidity> daftykins: Yeah. The folks I'm talking too seem pretty on the ball. Like they actually give a damn.
[15:07] <daftykins> :O ooh do you have a channel with some worth prodding?
[15:09] <TwistedLucidity> Bugzilla
[15:09] <daftykins> just the site itself?
[15:09] <TwistedLucidity> Yeah
[15:10] <TwistedLucidity> My issue was an actual crash. If it's a design "thing" then, depending on the "thing", it may need to go through a different channel.
[15:10] <daftykins> *nod*
[15:10] <TwistedLucidity> As the "thing" might be a matter of opinion. Bound to an IRC/subreddit/mail-list/design-cabal somewhere
[15:12] <ali1234> i have reported a few
[15:14] <daftykins> hilariously i've upped an image to an image site and yet its' address doesn't work
[15:15] <TwistedLucidity> For that kinda muck I use imgur. Seems to be OK.
[15:16] <daftykins> yeah that's where i was
[15:16] <daftykins> the exact image ID isn't working on any other computer XD
[15:17] <TwistedLucidity> On the right there should be various links. Maybe it take a moment to get cached/stored?
[15:17] <daftykins> not quite my first foray into such things, it's definitely gone wonky
[15:18] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/ogx8gQ0.png
[15:19] <TwistedLucidity> You just need a bigger stick
[15:19] <daftykins> that's better
[15:19] <daftykins> second time
[15:19] <TwistedLucidity> Mac user? BURN THE UNBELIEVER!
[15:19] <TwistedLucidity> :-P
[15:20] <daftykins> setting up a friends as it goes.
[15:20] <TwistedLucidity> I'm only teasing
[15:20] <ali1234> what's the problem?
[15:20] <daftykins> i know, but i definitely don't want to be associated with buying apple gear
[15:21] <daftykins> ali1234: it's very minor really, but you can't dismiss the tour before selecting an answer to the default browser question - which if you're picking yes, you can't do :)
[15:21] <daftykins> the only route is to manually drag out the window to get it to not overlap
[15:21] <ali1234> just maximize the window?
[15:22] <TwistedLucidity> Minor, but annoying. Yes.
[15:22] <daftykins> right, but the top right window control doesn't work in that instance so you have to drag it out
[15:22] <daftykins> i just don't think new users should be met with this on initial run
[15:22] <daftykins> it'll make them pick no :)
[15:23] <bashrc> I wouldn't buy apple gear.  I just don't like the closedness
[15:23] <TwistedLucidity> I like the build quality and the design of some things. I lack the deep pockets.
[15:23] <TwistedLucidity> Also, I like being able to fix my kit.
[15:26] <ali1234> i would buy the apple hardware but i wouldn't be able to run OS X because it's just so ugly and difficult to use
[15:28] <daftykins> indeed, very poor window management
[15:29] <ali1234> those icons tho
[15:31] <ali1234> i've only just noticed that the panel is a trapezoid because it's supposed to be 3d. lol
[15:31] <ali1234> i always thought it was just a weird shape
[15:31] <ali1234> that explains the ugly reflections too
[15:32] <daftykins> :D
[15:32] <daftykins> that sounds more personal though
[15:32] <TwistedLucidity> There's a few things like that for GNU/Linux too. Never go on with them. Too hard to see what was running.
[15:32] <ali1234> it's almost like... a shelf
[15:33] <ali1234> TwistedLucidity: yes, unity being the most commonly used
[15:34] <TwistedLucidity> ali1234: Was thinking for of Cairo Dock or whatever it was called. Can't get along with Unity either. :-(
[15:34] <ali1234> unity at least looks nice
[15:34] <foobarry> TwistedLucidity: elementary frw
[15:34] <TwistedLucidity> Thta's a matter of opinion
[15:34] <TwistedLucidity> whoops
[15:34] <ali1234> the thing about opinions is that mine are all correct
[15:35] <TwistedLucidity> rofl
[15:36] <daftykins> that's just incredibly grating to read :P
[16:25] <andylockran> how cna you see your own full connection string?
[16:25] <andylockran> i.e.17:13 -!- TheOpenSourcerer [~alord@host217-36-92-70.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-uk []
[16:25] <popey> whois yourself ?
[16:25] <andylockran> whois andylockran
[16:25] <daftykins> whois user user
[16:25] <popey> lol
[16:25] <popey>  /whois
[16:25] <andylockran> oops
[16:26] <andylockran> my rdNS doesn't appear to be working :(
[16:26] <daftykins> d'aww
[16:26] <daftykins> it's all about SASL auth
[16:26] <andylockran>  /msg nickserv auth sasl
[16:26] <jussi> cripes, its been a long time...
[16:26] <daftykins> and masking it anyway ;D
[16:26] <jussi> Registered : Dec 13 17:16:22 2006 (7 years, 24 weeks, 0 days, 23:09:19 ago)
[16:26] <andylockran> this nickname is already taken
[16:26] <andylockran> :p
[16:27] <daftykins> andylockran: if that was a joke i don't know what to think :(
[16:27] <andylockran> I'm just being daft
[16:27] <daftykins> i know, that's my job!
[16:27] <andylockran> du-du -tsh
[16:28] <popey> 17:28:22 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Apr 09 12:34:28 2004 (10 years, 7 weeks, 3 days, 03:53:53 ago)
[16:28] <popey> \o/
[16:28] <andylockran> how do you work that out?
[16:28] <jussi> popey: you old fart :P
[16:28] <popey>  /msg nickserv info
[16:28] <popey> heh
[16:28] <jussi> andylockran: /msg nickserv info andylockran
[16:29] <andylockran> 'm a baby
[16:29] <andylockran> 17:29 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Jul 06 09:24:13 2007 (6 years, 47 weeks, 0 days, 07:04:58 ago)
[16:30] <Myrtti> rDNS has nothing to do with authentication...
[16:30] <jussi> andylockran: you can see a limitd subset of other people also
[16:30] <Myrtti> cloaking does, however
[16:30] <jussi> andylockran: /msg nickserv info nikname
[16:31] <andylockran> Myrtti: doesn't it show the rDNS after the @ if you've got it set
[16:31] <andylockran> when i logged into IRC from my old bitfolk box that used to show up with the rDNS addess
[16:35] <Myrtti> mmmmmh I haven't a clue how you've got stuff configured, but sure
[16:49] <daftykins> Myrtti: yeah i was kinda assuming someone'd have a cloak
[16:49] <daftykins> they're related in my eyes :P
[17:31] <diddledan> and back
[17:37] <mapp> yo
[18:09] <knightwise> hey guys :)
[18:11] <popey> hiya
[18:12] <knightwise> popey, when you installed Ubuntu on your macbook pro , do you have any idea what resolution you got ?
[18:12] <knightwise> 1280 by 800 or 1440 by 900
[18:15] <knightwise> i think its 1280 by 800,
[18:15] <knightwise> 14.04 is running nice on that machine :)
[18:15] <knightwise> the only thing is ... I installed grub on the wrong partition ...
[18:19] <popey> knack native
[18:19] <popey> bah
[18:25] <knightwise> hmm.. i just installed Grub on the wrong partition.
[20:51] <Armag3dd0n24> yoo ;
[20:51] <Colin_brrrrr> Hello everyone.....
[20:51] <Colin_brrrrr> I have a question for you, my cmd/code is not working
[20:52] <Colin_brrrrr> My $find . -type f -iname 'thumbs.db' -print0 | xargs -0 cp -t /output_folder/
[20:53] <Colin_brrrrr> it works in the sense that it finds my files and copies them out but because they all have the same name they overwrite each one and i have only one left
[20:53] <Colin_brrrrr> what am i doing wrong ???
[20:54] <Colin_brrrrr> probably want to add an incremental value to append to the name or something like that
[21:15] <Colin_brrrrr> lololo