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andreas_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/754020100:00
arthurdentGuest57856: pick a username that isn't unavailable00:00
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am27thanks00:00
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hibernatehelpyo00:03
hibernatehelpI just installed ubuntu on my laptop but the hibernate is missing, how do I enable it??00:03
TJ-andreas_: And now can you post "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?00:03
hibernatehelpit is ubuntu 14.04 lts00:04
hibernatehelpalso the screen brightness slider doesn't do anything00:05
andreas_TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/754023300:05
aladinHey thankks guys im into the php channel now00:06
TJ-andreas_: Bashing-om "[   17.865276] init: gdm main process (1013) killed by TERM signal" ... and there are other TERMS of other services earlier00:06
nial74hibernatehelp: pm-suspend?00:07
agspy1Alright. I have a question that is probably extremely simple, but its not easy for me. .-.00:07
arthurdentlol00:07
arthurdentthat might have worked00:07
TJ-andreas_: Now show us "tail -n 5000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"00:08
agspy1Anyone good with windows 8?00:08
bekksagspy1: Ask ##windows00:09
andreas_TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/754024600:09
agspy1My windows will NOT boot off of my disc. Whatsoever. Went into my BIOS menu and changed the boot priorities, and nothing came of it. Any ideas?00:10
nial74agspy1: What has this to do with Ubuntu? Did you install it?00:11
arthurdentagspy1: this is #ubuntu00:11
TJ-andreas_: THat's very helpful, it identifies an issue with the drivers, bear with me00:11
agspy1My bad. I didnt mean my windows. My computer wont boot my ubuntu disc. (I shouldve prolly said that before)00:11
andreas_TJ: not a problem00:11
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lenswipeLogan_, they named an airport after you :)00:13
beardtreeIs there any way to reset internet?00:13
beardtreesudo service networking restart kills x00:13
agspy1No one? :c00:13
SachiruWhat linux filesystem supports transparent compression?00:15
TJ-andreas_: Bashing-om I'm looking at "[   18.049873] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x23:0x2f:682)" in syslog00:15
raubandreas_: errors?00:16
andreas_raub: with what exactly lol take your pick00:16
raubandreas_: NVM, that was for agspy1:00:16
andreas_raub: oh lol oops00:16
raubbeardtree: what do you mean by killing X?00:17
nashantHi, I have 2 gpus in my system. Is there a way to tell ubuntu which to use?00:17
agspy1raub I am not getting any errors. It just wont boot off of the disc. It will only boot my windows 8.00:17
Phlyroxhi, is it possible to install ubuntu 14 from within windows 7? I do not have a cd/usb i can use atm.00:18
raubPhlyrox: from within? As in a vm?00:18
Phlyroxnot as vm,00:18
Bashing-omandreas_: TJ- Dogs lit up outside, had to go see what had them disturbed. playing catch up.00:18
Gallomimiaagspy1: usually you need to get your bios to accept a boot drive other than your OS00:19
Phlyroxi still want to dual boot. i would of liked to use wubi but i noticed it is no longer supported00:19
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TJ-Bashing-om: See line 4826 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540246/00:19
Phlyroxi have already looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows00:20
agspy1I once tried ubuntu before. But I cant remember if it was while I had windows 7 or 8. I think this may by my first time booting off of something other than my normal OS.00:20
Phlyroxhowever it seems that the page is outdated00:21
Gallomimiaagspy1: do you know if this disk will boot on another computer yet?00:22
agspy1I dont own or have open access to any others.00:22
Gallomimiacause that can cause a different set of problems than your computer not booting off this disk00:22
Gallomimiawhere'd you get the disc?00:22
agspy1A normal blank DVD that was burned with the extracted .iso files.00:23
Gallomimiak. pretty tough to know which problem to try addressing. do you have any other dvd's that can boot the computer?00:23
Gallomimiawindows disc, rescue... hardware test... password cracker.00:24
agspy1The only other thing I can do is make the EXACT same thing, and try to run it. The only problem I have is I only have about 1 more disc, and I would like to not use it.00:25
SachiruAnyone using ZFS on Linux for production on limited systems? How much RAM is the minimum requirements for it? Somehow I can't find that in the documentation.00:25
bitbltwhy would canonical ship a cobbler package in trusty that can't even recognize trusty?00:25
Gallomimiawell you got a problem then. cause you don't even know if you made the disc right and you have nothing else to test for bootability00:25
TJ-andreas_: Bashing-om OK, I think I see why that error happened. The *wrong* version of the nvidia proprietary driver is installed. The legacy driver is installed, but the installed device needs the current driver, version 331   "NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  173.14.39"00:26
Gallomimiathere's two things that can cause the disc not to boot. one is that it hasn't been made properly, with boot flag and so forth. (i use usb sticks myself) and two is that your computer is setup to allow booting from dvd's. you don't know the answer to either, nor do you have equipment to test for it00:26
OerHeksSachiru,  "If the deduplication feature is used, a general rule of thumb is 5GB of RAM per TB of storage" https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/filesystems-zfs.html00:27
agspy1I dont see how I could make it wrong. I downloaded the iso off of the ubuntu website. I extracted all the files, burned them onto a disk, went into my BIOS, changed the priorities to boot off of a disc as top, and it doesnt even think about it.00:27
Gallomimianope. that's not right00:28
agspy1What isnt right.00:28
Gallomimiadon't extract the files. burn the iso as is00:28
agspy1I am going to do that. And if it doesnt work, I will be back in here.00:28
Gallomimiawe'll expect you i guess. staying here to talk more would be smarter...00:29
SachiruNah00:29
SachiruNo intention to dedupe00:29
SachiruJust bare needs00:29
SachiruI do intend to compress though00:29
OerHeksSachiru, then 1 gb/tb storage00:29
TJ-andreas_: Can you show us "dpkg-query -l 'nvidia*' | pastebinit" ?00:30
Phlyroxcome back to say thanks when it works00:30
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andreas_TJ: yerp.00:30
andreas_TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/754032300:31
SachiruOk.00:32
SachiruIs that 1GB including OS, or just for ZFS needs?00:32
OerHeksthat would be ex OS00:33
Logan_lenswipe: isn't that brilliant?00:35
SachiruOk00:36
tsEliothey so I'm partitioning a win7 hard drive to use ubuntu and I have four partitions that came with the laptop I'm using. I have SYSTEM_DRV and Windows 7, which I'm fairly confident are important, and I have a Lenovo and Lenovo_PART partitions. Does anyone know how I can combine these or get rid of one so I can have another partition?00:36
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Bashing-omTJ-: -> we had previously "removed" the Nvidia driver ( thought so !) and installed the nouveau driver. looks like I did not do my work very well.00:41
TJ-andreas_: Sorry, I got side-tracked. Just looked, that's helpful. Can you remind which version of Ubuntu that is ("cat /etc/issue") ?00:41
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TJ-Bashing-om: looks like the legacy driver is still there, possibly a left-over from the mobo's on-board video which is BIOS-disabled?00:42
agspy1Look whos back. :)00:43
TJ-andreas_: "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-173 nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-common"00:43
andreas_TJ: um... did you mean my version of ubuntu or what the boot_image said from that command00:44
andreas_ok00:44
TJ-andreas_: "cat /etc/issue"00:44
Bashing-omTJ-: -> andreas_ Not to detract your mind, I am mistified why the Nvidia driver is still present, and as well why nouvuea is still blacklisted, will have to address these manually I recon.00:44
lenswipeLogan_, yes it is :)00:44
lenswipeLogan_, I fly there every christmas to see my FIancee00:44
lenswipe:D00:44
agspy1Gallomimia I am back,00:44
TJ-Bashing-om: which nvidia package did you delete originally?00:44
Gallomimiaburned another disc?00:45
Phlyroxit didnt work?00:45
agspy1Yep. Burned it. without extracting the iso. Nada00:45
Bashing-omTJ-:  I "think" now maybe only nvidia-current .00:45
TJ-Bashing-om: that'd explain these legacy drivers remaining00:45
andreas_TJ: boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-63-generic00:46
andreas_Bashing-om: hey, whatever it takes, yeah?00:47
agspy1And I was right, That was my last disc.00:47
TJ-andreas_: That isn't the output of "cat /etc/issue" is it?00:47
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TJ-andreas_: I'm expecting something like "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l"00:48
andreas_TJ: ok that last command finished and ended with "ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot" shall I do that?00:49
Phlyroxso is it possible to install ubuntu14 from within windows7 like wubi once did without having to use a cd/usb00:49
andreas_TJ: I'm not running 14.04 I'm running 12.04. paste.ubuntu.com/7540201 is the cat one00:50
TJ-andreas_: thanks, I just wanted to be sure :)00:51
andreas_should I reboot?00:51
TJ-andreas_: not yet, no.00:51
andreas_TJ: ok00:51
andreas_TJ: glad I asked lol00:51
TJ-Bashing-om can you take andreas_ through the removal of "blacklist nouveau" entries whilst I research the motherboard in detail?00:52
mattyHello I am running ubuntu 13.10 on a Dell, I can watch Amazon Prime video but if I switch tabs, the video goes blank and only audio works, what can I do? I tried restarting00:52
TJ-andreas_: As I understand it, this is the motherboard:  http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1801_2.html00:52
andreas_TJ: that's the one00:53
agspy1No one?00:53
Bashing-omTJ-: an yeah .. I want to do it hands on .. show us -> ls -la /etc/modprobe.d | pastebinit <-.00:53
Bashing-omandreas_: ^^00:54
andreas_k00:54
agspy1Alright, thanks for ignoring me. I guess I wasted my time here.00:55
andreas_Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/754047300:55
TJ-andreas_: whilst you're pastebinning, can you do "sudo lspci -nnvvv | pastebinit" for me, pretty-please :) ?00:55
andreas_TJ: not a problem }:)00:55
andreas_TJ: paste.ubuntu.com/754047400:56
Bashing-omandreas_: look'n at 7540473 .00:57
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andreas_where do you change your username on here I've been trying to find it lol00:58
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Phlyroxno idea00:59
TJ-andreas_: Thanks. That tells me that at some point in the past, you disabled the motherboard's internal GeForce 8200  graphics chipset and only used the external, PCIe, adapter, is that correct?00:59
Bashing-omandreas_: All I see of interest presently is the 1 file -> cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | pastebinit <- .01:00
Gallomimiausername on the chat or on the paste.ubuntu.com site?01:00
andreas_TJ: yes, because it was not displaying and I remember the first card was having trouble because of it. once I did that everything was fine01:00
TJ-andreas_: OK, I'm just ensuring that my reading of the info you provide matches reality :)01:00
TJ-andreas_: gives us more confidence in recommending changes01:00
andreas_TJ: bitchin~01:01
TJ-Bashing-om: an aside: I suspect that this may have been why the 'correct' nvidia driver (version 3xx) failed because the older kernel version was loading first. I think it'd be high probability that now andreas has removed those older legacy drivers, re-installing the nvidia-3xx version would give him a fully working, 3D accelerated, system01:02
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hibernatemehow do you enable hibernation in ubuntu 14.04?01:03
Bashing-omTJ-: You recommend the proprietary driver over nouveau ? .. I persoanally have had the better results from open source drivers ( non-gameing) .01:04
TJ-hibernateme: If I recall correctly, hibernation option was removed because of many problems, so most systems only have access to suspend/resume. I believe there are hibernation solutions that will work though.01:04
TJ-Bashing-om: I've never had a problem with latest nvidia drivers; I'm using v337.68 here now, on a laptop, with 3 nvidia GPUs01:05
andreas_gallomimia: the chat. sorry, I didn't see anyone had replied to that, I'm like in 3 places at once lol01:06
Gallomimiayeah01:06
Bashing-omTJ-: andreas_  Nothing says we can not try the Nvidia driver and see what results, no need then to non-blacklist nouveau .01:06
Gallomimiato change username in chat its simple /nick newname01:07
Phlyroxso from the lack of response, I assume no one knows i maybe able to install ubuntu without a cd or usb?01:07
hibernatemehow do you enable hibernation in ubuntu 14.04?01:07
TJ-Bashing-om: it looks like precise-updates has 331.38 with package "nvidia-331-updates" from restricted01:07
andreas_omg that damn simple lol ok, thanks much01:07
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TJ-Bashing-om: I don't disagree with testing with the nouveau driver first though, if you want to go ahead with that. It would give us some good confirmation the card itself works!01:08
TJ-Phlyrox: you could via a PXE boot, but you'd need to set up a PXE/bootp/NFS environment for it01:08
andreas_TJ: well, the card must work to some degree, since it's being used to do all this so far lol01:08
debian_dogPhlyrox: there is a way usung unetbootin01:09
PhlyroxTJ-, thanks. ill look into it01:09
debian_doggoogle it os go to unetbootin, I believe instead of extracting iso to usb, use a partition instead, and then reboot/select from grub menu01:10
Phlyroxdebian_dog, ill also look into that. thanks01:10
TJ-andreas_: I was meaning for 2D/3D graphics :p01:10
Vivekanandahey everyone lenovo t61 running ubntu 12.04. today suddenly for some reason my laptop is stuck at 1.2 ghz speed although max is 2.1 . It is not going any higher and I was hoping to find out why01:10
andreas_TJ: lol yeah Iknow01:11
andreas_I'm not fixing that01:11
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seer-of-voidahh much better01:12
TJ-seer-of-void: Better warn Bashing-om !01:12
SachiruQuery: Is it possible to limit ZRAM on the system?01:13
seer-of-voidBashing-om: it's andreas, I changed my name  just so you know01:13
SachiruSpecifically set ZRAM to 1/2GB instead of some percentage?01:13
duckchatHP Pavillion 2004 32-bit trying to install 14.04.  cd runs until the point where it will setup the graphics and show desktop, etc.  screen goes blank.  runs for a while and quits.  nothing.01:13
Bashing-omandreas_:/ seer-of-void > TJ- May be real happy with the performance of the Nvidia driver. only takes a moment -> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates <- see what happens.01:14
* TJ- nods at Bashing-om 01:15
ianorlinduckhat how much ram?01:15
seer-of-voidBashing-om: k doin it now01:15
ianorlin!md5 |duckchat if the install is bad01:15
ubottuduckchat if the install is bad: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows01:15
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Vivekanandaanyone any clues01:16
Vivekananda?01:16
duckchatianorlin: I will check the ram.  only one slot filled.01:17
_2_anahello:'(01:17
duckchatbtw, 12.10 runs fine.01:18
duckchatgood idea to check the install and i will.01:18
_2_anafjsklakdkek01:18
_2_ana:)01:18
seer-of-voidBashing-om: it finished01:18
_2_anayesss01:18
Bashing-omseer-of-void: I'm torn on how to see what we have, best course I think is reboot -> sudo shutdown -r now <-.01:21
seer-of-voidBashing-om: welp. let's see.01:21
MegabyteGuys, what is the manual channel of Ubuntu again?01:21
_2_anahdjskslsjdhdhsux:'(:D(L):)01:22
* TJ- prepares the birthday cake01:22
seer-of-voidYOU GUYS01:22
seer-of-voidI HAVE A CURSOR AGAIN01:22
_2_anahkdkajshjajs01:22
MegabyteHello?...01:23
_2_anahello01:23
seer-of-voidJESUS IN A TRAINING BRA, I COULD KISS YOU BOTH01:23
rww_2_ana: something we can help you with today?01:23
_2_ana(L)01:23
MegabyteGuys, do you know what is the irc channel of Ubuntu's instruction manual?01:23
rwwMegabyte: which instruction manual?01:23
_2_ananoo thanks01:23
rww_2_ana: then please be quiet and keep the channel clear for support, thanks01:23
Megabyterww, its User's Guide01:23
Megabytewww.ubuntumanual.org01:23
MegabyteIf memory serves me right01:24
_2_ana;)01:24
rwwMegabyte: https://ubuntu-manual.org/ is at #ubuntu-manual01:24
seer-of-voidBashing-om: TJ: *mwah* god I've missed my computer. t h a n k y o u both01:24
* TJ- hands out slices of birthday cake01:25
Sway._.01:25
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Ranieri_We're such a cute family... #ubuntu01:25
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Ranieri_We got the hot guy (me), the brainiac(TJ-) and the down-to-earth guy(Sway)01:26
Bashing-omseer-of-void: Great ! you do good work, ya want to tackle that hard drive now ? - I need to be away for a short to take casre of my dogs.01:27
Bashing-om*care01:27
seer-of-voidBashing-om: if it's not too much. already kept you on here for what, 5 hours now?01:27
seer-of-voidBashing-om: what kind of dogs01:28
Bashing-omseer-of-void: I am a grown man, If I did not want to, I would not, I will be back shortly.01:28
seer-of-voidBashing-om: nothing to do with age lol just makin sure, I like to be considerate01:29
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gartralwhat's going on with the Ubuntu-Studio channel, I can't join it01:29
Bashing-omseer-of-void: Now-a-days they have been relegated to yard/watch dogs. Bassett hound, bull dog and 3 little yappers.01:30
TJ-Bashing-om: 2 Siberian Huskies here... slouched asleep in the study behind me!01:31
jetpilotxi need help canhelp me?01:32
Bashing-omTJ-: Nothing like the love and devotion of our "man's best friend" .01:32
TJ-Bashing-om: they're Huskies they have no loyalty! They run off on 10 seconds notice :) Luckily I'm on a large farm so I can intercept them before they leave the grounds01:33
seer-of-voidBashing-om: TJ: I'm a cat person, myself. but there are a few dog breeds that I love01:34
Gallomimiaoh help. i'm having problems using a keyboard at all within any installer after having some bios hiccups. something must be set wrong01:35
TJ-Gallomimia: Is it a USB keyboard?01:35
Gallomimiait is01:35
lenswipehey guys01:36
lenswipeinstalling ubuntu server01:36
lenswipei got past the keyboard detection bit01:36
lenswipenow i just have a purple screen01:36
Gallomimianothing on it?01:36
lenswipei pressed enter a few times and it filled up with light grey01:36
lenswipewant a pic?01:36
Gallomimiaits not hard to imagine. just trying to figure out the problem01:37
Gallomimiadid you check the hash of the file before making install media?01:38
lenswipeno01:38
Gallomimiai never do that either ;)01:38
lenswipeGallomimia, this machine doesn't have an internet connection could that be related?01:38
TJ-Gallomimia: in the BIOS settings, ensure that "legacy USB" or similar is enabled. Otherwise, the BIOS leaves it to the booted OS... which means the boot-loader and won't have keyboard. If a full kernel starts then that *should* load the correct USB HID drivers though01:38
lenswipeTJ-, the keyboard works perfectly (PS/2 keyboard)01:38
Gallomimiait doesn't have a full kernel working at this point. installers only01:39
Gallomimialenswipe: he's telling me about keyboard problems01:39
lenswipeoh01:39
GallomimiaTJ-: i've fiddled with that setting a lot, and i'm seeing no benefit so far. i'll try some more. i think it's my settings of legacy only or uefi only01:39
TJ-Gallomimia: OK, I've seen that happen alot... reboot into BIOS settings... do a "load factory defaults", look for and check that "legacy USB" (or whatever it is called) is enabled, make any custom changes you know you need, save the settings, and reboot.01:39
Gallomimiaeverything runs ontop of bios, and i have done nothing with mine. not even update it :(01:40
TJ-Gallomimia: I think the important step, often, is to reload default settings... it seems sometimes the NVRAM config gets corrupted and sets some 'bits' it ought not01:40
GallomimiaTJ-: so far the field is not titled "custom changes i know i need" it's called "custom changes i think i need"01:40
TJ-Gallomimia: :)01:40
Gallomimiayeah that's what's happened. i got a couple messages saying its reloading bios settings from a backup bios, and soon it will boot. i dunno what's changed01:41
Gallomimiaah. "load optimised defaults"01:41
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Gallomimiathe part i get confused with is xhci and ehci hand-off support. looking them up made the problem worse01:42
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lenswipeGallomimia, imgur.com/0m0yx6R01:44
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Gallomimialenswipe: as i said its easy to imagine. it's not easy to figure out whats wrong01:45
Gallomimiathe only thing i can suggest is that the install media is broken somehow01:45
GallomimiaTJ-: trying the desktop livecd gives me a blackscreen now01:46
Gallomimiai had it working with this hardware setup before01:46
Gallomimiaand i did not try nomodeset01:47
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TJ-Gallomimia: Hmmm!01:47
Gallomimiaodd this yes. legacyopcode or efi?01:48
Gallomimiathe hardware has changed since last i had this system running01:48
TJ-Gallomimia: I prefer EFI, especially if you plan on a multi-boot setup01:49
lenswipeGallomimia, right, i might re-download and install01:49
brontos_Any body else have issues with Chromium being very large in ubuntu?01:49
Gallomimialenswipe: you can double check the hash of the file you downloaded01:49
lenswipeyh01:50
wilee-nileebrontos_, Can you define what is large, to the channel.01:50
lenswipeGallomimia, it started working again before i got the chance to shut it down01:51
lenswipewell who kne01:51
lenswipeknew01:51
Gallomimiaoh well :)01:51
Gallomimianow i have blackscreen. does any key work?01:51
brontos_wilee-nilee, The UI is very large compared to all the other apps.  I almost looks like it is displayed at 800x600 resolution.  I can zoom out of the html but not the browser01:51
alfonsojonHi01:52
brontos_wilee-nilee, All other apps look normal01:52
alfonsojonI'm using Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 14.04 and it's painfully slow01:52
ashley_hi guys.01:52
alfonsojonI already went through the usual runaround of disabling plugins & addons01:52
ashley_i was wondering if anyone can assist?01:52
Gallomimia!ask01:52
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:52
ashley_alright so i have a pentium D 2GB ram machine and i just put the latest xubuntu, did all the updates but it appears to be sluggish and crashing alot.01:53
alfonsojonashley_: Check your hard drive.01:55
alfonsojonIt might be on the verge of failing. I once installed Xubuntu on an old Pentium machine and it ran great at first, only to suddenly become sluggish, slow, and crashy.01:55
alfonsojonWhen I checked the HDD with Disks, I found that it had over 200 bad sectors (not good) and that it was failing01:55
JoobusJonesHey, I've got a graphics issue making my screen be solid black before login. I can't get GRUB to appear, even holding shift at startup, tried USB and PS/2 keyboards. I know it isn't a hardware issue because Windows is working fine.01:56
ashley_what about it exactly? Its a new 80gb and it was running fine on win vista (slow for obvious reasons) but it ran ok. :/  i'll check it and see the hdd health just incase.01:56
seer-of-voidBashing-om: btw I added you to the friend list, I hope you don't mind. you were just extremely nice and helpful~01:56
wilee-nileebrontos_, Not me to the channel, more details was the issue. ;)01:59
alfonsojonashley_: Can't hurt to check.02:00
alfonsojonIf it continues acting up, I suggest checking your graphics drivers02:00
Bashing-omseer-of-void: Looks like I just got back in time to accept that "friends list", OK, Hard drive not recognized. 1st to identify that hard drive -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- with out the drive connected.02:01
ashley_@Alfonso how do i update to the most recent drivers on linux? sorry im a newbie02:02
seer-of-voidBashing-om: ok. this will be on this computer, btw.02:03
Bashing-omseer-of-void: All of us ubuntu people are nice sorts, TJ- sure was a great help.02:03
seer-of-voidBashing-om: yes he sure was. what was the package to install pastebin again?02:04
seer-of-voidnvm I got it02:05
Bashing-omseer-of-void: -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .02:05
seer-of-voidBashing-om: yeah, I remembered it right after I asked lol02:05
seer-of-voidBashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/754075602:06
Bashing-omseer-of-void: look'n /7540756 .02:07
allenevening folks02:07
JoobusJonesWhat steps should I try to troubleshoot a failed boot if I can't get into grub, and all I get is a black screen?02:08
jianhe14.04, how can I remove window decoration for specified application?02:08
wilee-nileeJoobusJones, This a fresh install?02:09
JoobusJonesIt was installed when 14.04 came out, so no.02:09
allenSynaptic Manager is in the repository for Ubuntu, so is it save to install stuff using it as well?02:09
Bashing-omseer-of-void: OK, So far there is but the one hard drive installed into that box, lets see what the system sees when the external drive is connected, Connect the drive and -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- once more.02:09
JoobusJonesThings were fine, then a kernel update came out that broke my system I think02:09
seer-of-voidBashing-om: k let me go get it02:09
MouseTheLuckyDogIs there a way to temporarily specify a second /etc/fstab?02:10
TJ-seer-of-void: WAIT!!!!02:10
wilee-nileeJoobusJones, Any clue on your part. WE just had a kernel upgrade, if you are running proprietary graphics, they do not follow this upgrade.02:10
seer-of-voidTJ: hrm?02:10
wilee-nileeJoobusJones, Use nicks here as well, I don't just stare at the screen waiting for your answer, this is free help. ;)02:11
TJ-seer-of-void: *before* you connect the drive, in the terminal, run "tail -n0 -f /var/log/kern.log | tee /tmp/kern.log" .... plug in the disk drive... let the kernel messages stop scrolling, press Ctrl+C to stop the 'tail',  then "pastebinit /tmp/kern.log"02:11
SachiruAnyone know how to configure memory limits for ZRAM on ubuntu? There's nothing in the official documentations and if there's anything on the forums about it 2 hours of googling apparently isn't enough.02:12
seer-of-voidTJ: ok, sec02:12
TJ-seer-of-void: that'll let us know what is happening on the driver level02:12
seer-of-voidok }:)02:12
alfonsojonashley_: Oh sorry02:12
JoobusJwilee-nilee, sorry, was on my phone which made it difficult to respond02:12
alfonsojonI was on another channel02:12
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ashley_its ok02:12
alfonsojonYou're on Xubuntu, correct?02:12
ashley_correct02:12
alfonsojon14.04?02:13
Bashing-omTJ-: seer-of-void Sure has a way of cutting directly do the bone, do he not ?02:13
JoobusJoneswilee-nilee, I'm running proprietary AMD drivers, and I'd revert to the FOSS Radeon drivers if I could get into a shell02:13
ashley_yes02:13
alfonsojonAlright02:13
JoobusJonesHolding shift doesn't get me into GRUB though, trying both USB and PS/2 keyboards.02:13
wilee-nileeJoobusJones, Have you adjusted the grub timeout?02:13
alfonsojonGo to the menu02:14
alfonsojonThen open the settings02:14
JoobusJoneswilee-nilee, I can't even get into a place where I can adjust that; it's whatever the default is. Even if I hold shift from the second my BIOS start loading I can't get in02:14
alfonsojonIn the settings, look for "Software & Updates"02:14
TJ-JoobusJones: is the keyboard USB?02:14
JoobusJonesTJ-, I've tried both USB and PS/2 keyboards02:14
JoobusJonesHad issues like that in the past, so now I keep a PS/2 keyboard around02:14
seer-of-voidBashing-om: why, whatever do you mean02:14
ashley_ok got it02:15
TJ-JoobusJones: I've found on some systems, you have to repeatedly tap the Shift key for it to be detected - don't understand why, since the keyboard controller is supposed to set a bit when the shift key is down and leave it that way!02:15
alfonsojonthen go to the "Additional Drivers" tab02:15
wilee-nileeJoobusJones, If it is booting you can use a tty, power on wait about the time it took to get to the login than ctrl-alt-f1 login and doo the voodoo you need t do.02:15
wilee-nileeto*02:15
alfonsojonIt should tell you if any proprietary drivers are available02:15
alfonsojonIf it's empty, then you don't have any driver updates.02:15
Bashing-omseer-of-void: I just admire the style .. direct and to the point.. to KNOW what is going on at the hardware level.02:15
ashley_ok. seems to say "No drivers available" :(02:16
alfonsojonashley_: Is your system up to date?02:16
JoobusJoneswilee-nilee, Will that give me a shell?02:16
wilee-nileeJoobusJones, Yes02:16
JoobusJonesFantastic.02:16
ashley_what do you mean by up to date? i did do sudo apt-get update.02:16
JoobusJonesI came to Ubuntu from Fedora, which has the GRUB menu show up by default, even with only one OS installed02:16
wilee-nileeJoobusJones, TJ- has a good point on the tapping.02:16
alfonsojonashley_: After that, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:16
JoobusJoneswilee-nilee, I'll give that a try, both cases, and I'll get back to you02:17
alfonsojonIf you don't want to use the terminal, you can use "Software Updater"02:17
wilee-nileecool02:17
alfonsojonIt's in your applications02:17
SpeirosIs there a method of editing my android phone through any packages on Ubuntu?02:17
ashley_ok just did it02:17
ashley_nothing new thou02:17
resnoSpeiros: editing like what?02:17
alfonsojonashley_: Well, when stuff crashes02:17
alfonsojonCan you tell me what exactly crashes?02:17
Speirosresno I'd like to remove the pre-installed apps, such as facebook.02:17
ashley_its usually only fireforx02:18
alfonsojonah.02:18
ashley_fox*02:18
Speirosresno also turning off the camera "click" sound02:18
ashley_but, it freezes the whole computer02:18
alfonsojonFirefox runs like crap for me too, so it might be a Firefox problem02:18
resnoSpeiros: sure if you root it, etc. this is not an ubuntu question though02:18
alfonsojonI have a Core 2 Quad & 8GB DDR3 RAM02:18
seer-of-voidBashing-om: it's a specialty of mine to be as clear as possible~02:18
alfonsojonSo it should run fine02:18
ashley_ahh okay, i'll try another browser and see if that works.02:18
alfonsojonBut it doesn't02:18
resnoSpeiros: the same tools that windows users have linux has always02:18
alfonsojonTry Midori if you don't mind third-party browsers.02:18
alfonsojonIt's a little unheard of, but it's a fast and feature packed little browser.02:19
Speirosresno Ok, any suggestions where to go? I'm very useless with this kind of thing.02:19
TJ-Speiros: Install the Android SDK Tools and use things like "adb"  see http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/tools-notes.html02:19
wilee-nileeSpeiros, Have you been to #android ?02:19
resno#android would be a great starting place02:19
SpeirosTJ- Thanks, I'll try that.02:19
resnoand i would suggest researching what you're intending to do.. its possible to brick you phone Speiros02:20
Bashing-omseer-of-void: That too is an admirable trait, I an sadly lacking in my communications skills. Something I do try and work on.02:20
Speiroswilee-nilee Yes, but it was another program to download to my phone when I can't find the first one02:20
Speirosresno what does bricking it mean?02:20
wilee-nileeSpeiros, That us a IRC channel02:20
wilee-nileeis*02:20
resnoSpeiros: bricking means, to turn your phone into a brick, aka make it useless02:20
Speirosresno lol Okay, thanks02:20
lenswipehey guys02:20
SpeirosIt's almost one already...it'll be a shattered brick soon.02:20
lenswipewhen i installed ubuntu and it asked to configure the network I said "No."02:21
seer-of-voidBashing-om: well thus far you've done well02:21
lenswipeis there a way to undo that02:21
resnoSpeiros: so read guides througjly and stuff. so have fun. and thats all from us :)02:21
lenswipei looked in ifconfig and its only showing lo02:21
SpeirosOk, thanks for your help folks02:21
seer-of-voidBashing-om: TJ: ok I feel like I may or may not have missed something, so just take this & tell me what's what. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540846/02:21
lenswipeanyone?02:21
resnolenswipe: youll need to add some stuff to your network config02:21
resnolenswipe: you going dhcp i suppose?02:22
lenswiperesno, okay, what and where02:22
lenswipeand yes02:22
Bashing-omseer-of-void: Look'n at 7540846 .02:22
lenswiperesno, it bothers me that nothing except loopback is showing up in ifconfig02:22
ashley_just crashed02:22
* DoMPatoneS clear02:22
Bashing-omseer-of-void: Nope, same same as the 'fdisk -lu' output. try again .02:23
resnolenswipe: if you dont configure the network, what would you expect to show up?02:23
resnoit did as you asked02:23
TJ-seer-of-void: did you also manage to capture the kern.log output?02:24
seer-of-voidBashing-om: tj said to run that one tail command and something about when the lines stop running or something but when I ran it, it was doing something but it wasn't showing that it was aside from not having the command line again02:25
seer-of-voidBashing-om: so I'm wondering if that's supposed to happen or if I just misunderstood something02:25
alfonsojonashley_: Strange.02:25
ashley_@alfonso idk whats wrong everything just seems very slow02:25
ashley_like the way windows move, the menu opening etc02:25
lenswiperesno, fair enough i suppose02:26
lenswiperesno, i added auto inhet eth0 to my config file and it seems to be working02:26
lenswipeits doing dhcp discover anyway02:26
lenswipe:)02:26
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resnolenswipe: ya, i was looking for the config file, and its not were i expected it02:26
lenswiperesno, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html02:27
resnoso i was slightly lost :(02:27
lenswipei just did that02:27
resnooh, 10.0402:27
lenswipespecifically02:27
lenswipeauto eth002:27
lenswipeiface eth0 inet dhcp02:27
lenswipefollowed by sudo ifup eth002:27
resnoi think its different in 14.0402:27
lenswipeoh really?02:27
lenswipeim on 14.0402:27
resnoseems like it to me02:27
lenswipebut that seems to be working02:27
lenswipe:/02:27
resnowhat version you using?02:27
lenswipeits doing lots of dhcpdiscovers though02:27
lenswiperesno, 14.0402:27
Bashing-omseer-of-void: What we are doing is trying to capture the content of the action to a file "kern.log" and relay that file to us.02:27
TJ-seer-of-void: Did you press Ctrl+C to stop the 'tail' ? If so, check if the log was captured by doing "ls -l /tmp/kern.log" and checking the size in bytes... it should be non-zero02:28
JoobusJonesFantastic, thanks for the help, wilee-nilee!02:28
seer-of-voidTJ: ok hang on I'll just do it again02:29
JoobusJonesI was able to restore my old xorg.conf and get rid of fgrlx via command line, I'll be putting ctrl+alt+F1 in my long term memory alongside REISUB02:29
TJ-seer-of-void: if the file is 0 bytes or doesn't exist, we'll have to do it the hard way, just do "tail -n 2000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"02:29
seer-of-voidTJ: I press ctrl+c  after I plug it in?02:29
resnolenswipe: so the wierd thing is, i have loopback only there too02:29
lenswiperesno, that is weird02:30
TJ-seer-of-void: Only press Ctrl+C once the messages have stopped scrolling... Ctrl+C is the 'break' key that stops the command and returns you to the command line02:30
lenswiperesno, well eth0 is in my config02:30
lenswiperesno, or rather, its appearing in my ifconfig now02:30
lenswipebut it has no IP :02:30
lenswipe:/02:30
resnoits all good then02:30
alfonsojonashley_: I have an option for you02:30
alfonsojonIt might not fix your problem entirely, but it should help02:30
lenswiperesno, except it cant get an IP02:30
seer-of-voidTJ: ok but what I was saying before was that there wasn't anything scrolling when I did it that first time. I'll do it again now & see if there is anything02:30
lenswiperesno, it just sits there sending out DHCPDISCOVER requests02:30
resnodo a down then an up02:30
lenswipeokay02:30
lenswiperesno, DHCPDISCOVER02:31
TJ-seer-of-void: OK... that tells us that nothing happened then!02:31
lenswipe...and again02:31
TJ-seer-of-void: Are you connecting the drive via USB?02:31
alfonsojonOpen settings, then go to "Window Manager Tweaks"02:31
lenswipeloads more02:31
alfonsojonUncheck "Enable display compositing"02:31
seer-of-voidTJ: if you mean generally, yes. if you mean did I yet, I just did now02:31
seer-of-voidTJ: no scrolling yet02:32
TJ-seer-of-void: You'd expect to see about 10-20 lines from the kernel as it discovers and configures the device02:32
lenswiperesno, still DHCPDISCOVER02:33
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TJ-seer-of-void: Is the device a USB external hard drive? can you tell us the make/model?02:33
lenswiperesno, this machine has 3 network cards02:33
resnodo you know which one is connected for usre?02:34
seer-of-voidTJ: it's technically an internal rigged to--AH! we have messages02:35
lenswiperesno, is there a way to check what hardware eth0 is bound to?02:35
wilee-nileeJoobusJones, no problem.02:35
seer-of-voidTJ: ok a bunch of messages scrolled, I press ctrl+c now yes?02:35
resnolenswipe: sure, i dont konw how tho02:35
resnolenswipe: maybe lspci might help02:36
wynn_what is the package for kernel headers?02:36
lenswiperesno, just got No working leases in persistant database - sleeping02:37
TJ-seer-of-void: Yes02:37
seer-of-voidTJ: ok and you wanted the readout of which command again?02:38
knobHey guys... got an odd question:   I have WordPress installed.   I have a plugin that provides sftp uploads.   I created a user account, and I'm able to ssh into the box with this user account.      Yet when I provide the login details to the plugin, it throws an error.02:40
Bashing-omseer-of-void: did you - before pligging in the drive do terminal command -> "tail -n0 -f /var/log/kern.log | tee /tmp/kern.log <- .02:40
TJ-seer-of-void: "pastebinit /tmp/kern.log"02:40
knobThe odd part is, that the plugin says username/password incorrect... yet when I check the   auth.log       , it actually logged in just fine.02:40
seer-of-voidTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540919/02:40
knobIt logs in, and within the second, logs out.           That's why it leads me to believe maybe it's an environment variable of the user I creatd?02:40
knob*created02:40
seer-of-voidBashing-om: yes02:40
DoMPatoneSyou dont have the correct permissions on the foler tha tit logs into02:41
knobAny thoughts what I could be missing?02:41
TJ-lenswipe: "lshw -C net" will show you the hardware devices and their "logical name: ethX"02:41
knobDoMPatoneS, thanks!   What I did was    ... this new user, I added it to a new group.         Then I gave   chown newUser:newGroup directory/02:41
DoMPatoneSif you are chrooting the base folder needs to be owned by root02:42
TJ-seer-of-void: OK, those messages are from the wireless LAN rekeying02:42
knobSo I *think* I'm goog?          Any idea what... Well, I'm a n00b at this.        Maybe the plugin gets sent to a02:42
knoboh02:42
knobgoogling chrooting now02:42
TJ-seer-of-void: So, tell us exactly what this hard drive is, and how it is connected to the system02:42
lenswipeTJ-, thank you02:42
lenswiperesno, i changed it02:42
DoMPatoneSthe easiest way that i can think is chown the base folder to root and link the folder u need and chown to the user02:43
knobDoMPatoneS, ok... and link... a symlink of those?02:43
SuperNoeManif I wanted to create my own software and put it on ubuntu repositories so that others could install it with apt-get02:45
dog_hi02:45
SuperNoeManhow would I do that?02:45
dog_when I change my brightness in system settings, it resets to max after a reboot. How can I fix this?02:45
seer-of-voidTJ: it's basically an internal hard drive that's plugged into a thing to make it external, so it can be used by usb. I used it plenty of times back and forth between mine and my father's laptops, and there were never any problems. one day after unmounting and unplugging it from my father's laptop, I plugged it into mine and it just never showed up. it recognizes that it's being plugged in, you feel the drive spinning and everyth02:45
seer-of-voiding, but it never shows up in the menu.02:45
holsteinSuperNoeMan: upstream is the easiest02:45
DoMPatoneSknob -> mount --bind olddir newdir chow user:user02:45
knob10-402:46
knobok...02:46
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SuperNoeManholstein: upstream?02:46
SuperNoeManwhat's that?02:46
holsteinSuperNoeMan: debian is upstream02:47
SuperNoeManI just started checking out launchpad02:47
SuperNoeManah ok02:47
holsteinSuperNoeMan: the quickest way to get what you are saying..quickest and easiest, is to get your software into debian upstream.. it trickles in, and you apt-get it02:47
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TJ-seer-of-void: " thing to make it external" sounds very suspect to me... so what I will interpret it as is this: You have a SATA drive connected to a SATA-to-USB2 adapter connected to a USB2 port02:47
DrakkenWarrevening gents, what is the easiest way to block a website with ubuntu02:48
SuperNoeManholstein: how do I find out about how to do that?02:48
dog_DrakkenWarr, you mean like parental controls?02:49
dog_or in the firewall02:49
SuperNoeMan"trickles"?02:49
SuperNoeManI want to be able to control it real time02:49
resnoDrakkenWarr: easiest is just to do /etc/hosts... but that doesnt really scale02:49
DrakkenWarrI was trying to do it through the hosts file, but that did not work02:49
seer-of-voidTJ: that's the one. apologies, been at all this for like 6 hours now, I'm getting lazy with names02:49
SuperNoeManas in, build it tonight, push it to some apt server somewhere and then download it ASAP02:49
holsteinSuperNoeMan: that will *never* happen..02:49
holsteinSuperNoeMan: unless you are already a MOTU, or a debian developer.. or part of another distro.02:50
TJ-seer-of-void: I've experienced several of those adapters, and I've had 5 fail so far! I bet if you connect the SATA drive *directly* to the motherboard with a known-good SATA cable, power the system up, that SATA drive will appear02:50
SuperNoeManholstein: what about launchpad PPA's?02:50
SuperNoeMan(I only just read about them)02:50
holsteinSuperNoeMan: what i mean by "trickles", is, it just comes to ubuntu.. you dont need to add it to ubuntu, that would just happen02:50
holsteinSuperNoeMan: a ppa is not what you had asked.. you had asked about getting a package into the repositories02:51
holstein!ppa02:51
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:51
holsteinSuperNoeMan: ppa's are great. thats not going to get a pacakge in the default sources..02:51
SuperNoeManholstein: oh, well I don't care about default sources02:51
SuperNoeManI just want to be able to apt-get my shit02:52
holsteinSuperNoeMan: please dont curse here02:52
seer-of-voidTJ: it's annoying as hell because 1) that kinda defeats the purpose, 2) I've had this thing for quite a few years and have had no problems. 3) I'm a bit suspicious that my father's laptop might've done something to it because there was something going on with his computer at the time, I think it was malware. And I will cry for days if everything is gone, but I don't think it is. (this hard drive has like 12 years worth of my stu02:52
seer-of-voidff on it)02:52
holsteinSuperNoeMan: you are welcome and encouraged to do what you like with your software02:52
TJ-seer-of-void: My first check is always cables and controllers, followed by watching the kernel log to see if the device (or its controller) shows up02:53
TJ-seer-of-void: So I'm 85% confident a direct connection will work02:53
TJ-seer-of-void: if it does, simply get another SATA-to-USB2 adapter02:53
seer-of-voidTJ: fun... guess I'm opening up the desktop again.02:54
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jianhe14.04, how can I remove window decoration for specified application?02:56
alfonsojonjianhe: black magic02:56
alfonsojonjianhe: Kidding, you can probably do something with CCSM. Not sure though.02:57
wilee-nileejianhe, Specific details help.02:57
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jianhealfonsojon: CCSM could not doing this because unity plugin conflict with window decoration plugin02:57
alfonsojonjianhe: Darn.02:59
jianhewilee-nilee: I want to remove the window title for a chromium window02:59
knobGuys, if I modify the   /etc/hosts.allow       .... should I restart a service?         ssh?02:59
alfonsojonYou can do that on XFCE02:59
wilee-nileejianhe, Cool, maybe someone can help, I don't use the browser.02:59
jianhealfonsojon: I am using unity ...03:00
alfonsojonjianhe: I know, I just don't know how to do it in Unity.03:01
prepangolinHi guys!03:02
prepangolinI've something problem during using "apt-get update" command.03:03
wilee-nileeprepangolin, Run it and pastebin all of it.03:04
prepangolinwilee-nilee: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540945/ and http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540967/03:04
GallomimiaTJ-: still no luck getting keyboard on the fussy bios03:04
seer-of-voidTJ: ok I decided I'm not doin all that tonight. I'll try it tomorrow and see what happens03:04
TJ-seer-of-void: OK, get some rest :)03:05
utopianhi03:05
TJ-Gallomimia: not having it in front of me its hard to diagnose further... I'm have slapped the side of the PC *hard* by now though, just on principle :p03:05
wilee-nileeprepangolin, That is the sources.list03:05
seer-of-voidTJ: indeed. and thanks again for all your help~03:05
Gallomimiait's a good idea. maybe i'll reseat the cards and drives and cpu03:06
wilee-nileeprepangolin, You said apt-get update was the issue03:07
prepangolinwilee-nilee: The former is the error message after "sudo apt-get update" and later is the content of the sources.list file.03:07
fishcookeri've done apt-get dist-upgrade but because some reason i cancel it03:07
fishcookerhow to delete the downloaded package?03:08
GallomimiaTJ-: i did stop trying for awhile while it sat at a black screen. i found a problem elsewhere on the network and moved to look at that. i did nmap on my subnet and found a doom backdoor. and the worst part about it is i can't identify the computer that has it :P03:08
wilee-nileeprepangolin, I see nothing but your sources list which looks fine, hows about actually running the update and showing every single bit.03:08
prepangolinI say I saw the askubuntu's Q&A already, but still did't spot this issue.03:08
TJ-Gallomimia: oh that's easy; just block the target's IP at the firewall and wait until someone complains03:09
wilee-nileeprepangolin, Ah two links hold on my mistake.03:09
GallomimiaTJ-: it's my private home network. i can't figure out who knows the password to get in thru wifi and has windows03:10
Gallomimiaall the other computers are off :P03:10
wilee-nileeprepangolin, Hash sums not matching is, what it is, an apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade would help to show. I suspect it is a held package situation which is a partial upgrade which is not a good idea to run.03:11
TJ-Gallomimia: cycle the passphrase and make it truly random "pwgen -s 16 1"03:11
utopianhi03:12
Gallomimiaah you've tripped on my secretive problem. i changed the password for the isp-provided-router months ago and forgot it :P03:12
Gallomimiaright around the same time i stopped geeking out at home all the time and started working 70h per week 3 out of 4 weeks03:13
utopianhi03:13
utopianhi03:13
utopianhi03:13
cfhowlettutopian ask your ubuntu questions03:13
Stanley00utopian: please stop that.03:13
utopianAlright is there anything other thatn apt-get for ubuntulog_03:13
utopianubuntu03:13
Gallomimiaor at least don't continue to do it03:13
utopianI think debian has aptitutde, does ubuntu have that also03:13
wilee-nileeyes03:14
prepangolin<wilee-nilee> Let's me check it.03:14
utopianNice03:14
Stanley00utopian: yes, and apt also :D03:14
cfhowlettutopian aptitude is available, but apt is the default.  synaptic is also available.03:14
utopianAwesome -^.^- aptitude was fairly new when I stopped using debian03:14
utopianMy second distro I ever purchased officially was debian woody03:14
utopianaptitude seems very nice03:14
wilee-nilee!ot | utfans0503:15
ubottuutfans05: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:15
wilee-nileeutopian, That offtopic was for you, this is support.03:15
wilee-nilee"just the facts" Joe Friday03:16
troy_cambridgeI am finding myself unable to update.  It says something like apt-get or synaptic is already running.03:22
holsteintroy_cambridge: ok.. kill or close all but one03:22
troy_cambridgewhat should I kill in task manager?03:22
holsteintroy_cambridge: dont overthink it.. just close them03:23
troy_cambridgethem equals ?03:23
holsteintroy_cambridge: you can only use one at a time03:23
holsteintroy_cambridge: choose the one you want to use, and close the rest03:23
troy_cambridgeholstein, I have already tried that unsuccesfully03:24
holsteintroy_cambridge: i suggest, if you dont understand, or know where the error is, just reboot the machine, and before running anything, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share errors03:24
troy_cambridgeI'm needing actual advice.03:24
dlimuratdjDoes anyone know what time the phone ubuntu sell? There ubuntutouch official version? What time? How to install ubuntu touch app when there is no network, like android apk, ubuntu has app execution files? Phone03:24
troy_cambridgeah.  thanks holstein  that's what I was looking for.03:25
cfhowlettdlimuratdj "when it's done"03:25
holsteintroy_cambridge: you can run "ps aux" and see what it running.. but, you may just find it quicker to reboot03:25
cfhowlett!touch03:25
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch03:25
TohshI have a clean install of server 14.04 on an intel i5 3rd gen based machine. I am unable to boot normally without the nomodeset flag set on the kernel line in grub. It will attempt to boot and then freeze when adding swap. This has never been an issue in the past on previous releases for me. I have verified my UUIDs match in fstab and blkid. Any idea?03:25
agspy1My windows computer wont boot off of the ubuntu disc.03:26
holsteinagspy1: correct03:26
holsteinagspy1: ubuntu live disc is not made to boot windows03:27
dlimuratdjThank you very much! <303:27
agspy1Wait what03:27
agspy1holstein: I think we are talking about 2 different things.03:28
cfhowlett!details|agspy103:28
ubottuagspy1: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)03:28
DoMPatoneShighlight test03:28
DoMPatoneShighlight test dompatones03:28
holsteinagspy1: you stated you cannot boot your windows machine.. the ubuntu live disc is not made to boot windows03:28
holsteinagspy1: you can only boot the live environment03:28
DoMPatoneSdompatones03:29
cfhowlettDoMPatoneS ask your ubuntu questions03:29
agspy1Theres not much to elaborate on. I have windows 8. I just downloaded the iso for ubuntu, burned it to a disc. (Actually I burned it twice, once with the extracted files, one without the extracted files) I set my priority to boot off of the disc, just so I could test it out to see if I like it. But it wont recognize either of the discs. It still jjust boots into windows 8.03:30
ergandonI have ubuntu03:30
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dauntl3sshey guys, i am trying to update/upgrade my server and when I login I see 7 new packages 7 are security updates. I do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade but this is what happens : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7541117/03:30
cfhowlettagspy1 you don't "extract" files to make an ubuntu boot disc03:31
Artemis3agspy1, "extracted files" sounds really not nice03:31
agspy1Explain what I did wrong. O.o03:31
Artemis3agspy1, also usb sticks are good for you :)03:31
agspy1I cant find mine. D: I think my dad broke it. :/03:32
cfhowlettdauntl3ss it happens.  nothing much to worry about.  Held back packages generally get fixed in fairly quick time03:32
dauntl3sscfhowlett: but I only see 3 packages held back the thing says there are 7 -- so that's 4 not being accounted for03:32
dauntl3ssnothing to worry about too?03:32
dauntl3ssall are security updates T_T03:32
Artemis3agspy1, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows03:32
cfhowlettdauntl3ss run this command:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:32
dauntl3ssoh yeah that's a big one03:33
dauntl3ss222MB03:33
dauntl3ssand all 7 packages03:33
dauntl3ssthank you :)03:33
dauntl3ssis it always reccomended to update the distro?03:33
agspy1But like I said. I tried it twice, the first time I extracted, felt kinda retarded for doing so. So I burned it again on a brand new disc as just the .iso file.03:34
cfhowlettdauntl3ss well, security upgrades certainly.03:34
pngo_<dauntl3ss> you may try sudo apt-get -f install03:34
wilee-nileeagspy1, Assuming the disc is bootable, are you aware of the UEFI issues with W8 factory installs?03:34
dauntl3sscfhowlett, thanks a mill :)03:34
he1kkiAnyone else have loooong wait before laptop brightness keys actually do anything? Every now and then it can take > 5min before scren suddenly starts to obey all those commands given before03:35
dauntl3sspngo_ thank you03:35
cfhowlettdauntl3ss happy to help03:35
agspy1It wasnt a factory install. I did all possible research on this before coming here. This is a windows 7 machine, that I upgraded.03:35
agspy1So I dont have a UEFI option in my BIOS03:35
holsteinagspy1: i would take the media to another machine. then, you will have a more broad data point03:35
holsteinagspy1: you dont have the option? or you have no restrictions?03:36
wilee-nileeagspy1, Cool, an important isue 99% of the time with W8. Are you aware of the boot menu outside the bios?03:36
agspy1Uhhhh... I guess not?03:36
wilee-nileeagspy1, On the bios boot splash it tells you the keys to hit.03:37
agspy1holstein: I have the bios for windows 7. I can set the priorities for boot. Thats it. No UEFI03:37
agspy1wilee: 1.) Mine boots so quick you wouldnt be able to read them. 2.) From the thousands of times ive tried to see which buttons, I dont believe they say anything besides "F12 for Network Boot"03:38
Sohronagspy1: there is no bios for windows 7, BIOS is universal for all OS's03:38
cfhowlettagspy1 really suggest you stop; go to the store, buy a 4 GB or larger USB and make your bootable media.  LOT less painful that burning CD's ... and NO EXTRACTION required03:38
holsteinagspy1: if you have another machine, you can see if the media boots there.. you cant just copy the data over to the cd.. you have to do an image copy, using the iso as the source03:38
agspy1I know.03:39
wilee-nileeagspy1, A menu you want to know, look it up on the web, it is a per-session boot, I have seen it listed in manuals, which are also on the web.03:39
wilee-nileeagspy1, This will prove whether it is the disc or not.03:40
cfhowlettagspy1 look in your computer documentation or on the OEM support site to find your bios menu command03:40
JoobusJonesHey!03:42
FuhrmannHey03:42
cfhowlettJoobusJones ask your ubuntu questions03:42
JoobusJonesI'm trying to compile an OpenGL application, but ld is telling me that it can't find -lGL; I have confirmed that libGL.so exists and that I have libgl1-mesa-dev installed and updated.03:42
agspy1Sohron: Actually there are different BIOS. On a computer that had w8 preinstalled you have the option to mess with the UEFI. On mine it does not. :)03:43
_2_sabrinahotgirhi03:43
JoobusJonesEvery article I've found about my problem (like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18406369/qt-cant-find-lgl-error) have had solutions that are unhelpful03:43
holsteinagspy1: you think its the iso that you downloaded?03:44
Sohronagspy1: but the basic input/output system is the sam agspy103:44
holstein!md5 | agspy103:44
ubottuagspy1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows03:44
holsteinagspy1: you think its the DVD you have made? can you get to the integrety check? if not, have you tried booting it on other hardware?03:44
agspy1There are so many responses I dont know where to start03:45
Sohronagspy1: forget me then, i've got nothing musch to offer others have already stated03:46
Sohronmuch*03:46
wilee-nileeagspy1, We all have been there, ask questions if it helps.03:46
cfhowlettagspy1 start here: VERIFY your downloaded ISO.  YES, verify, YES every time.   THEN verify the boot media you create with the ISO.  holstein sent you md5sum link.03:47
wilee-nileeagspy1, preface whom your asking with their nick, the tab will complete nicks, tyoe a few letters of one hit the tab.03:47
JoobusJonesAny ideas on why I'd be unable to locate lGL even with libgl1-mesa-dev installed?03:47
holsteinJoobusJones: maybe something hard-coded in ubuntu that is not in the place that is expected03:48
agspy1holstein: I am currently looking at the md5. It being extremely early in the morning, I am finding it hard to understand. .-.03:48
JoobusJonesholstein: I feel like I had this working not long ago; I just installed the latest fglrx driver and now things are weird03:49
JoobusJonesholstein: libGL.so is in a sane place and properly linked up03:49
holsteinagspy1: you get the sum of the iso you downloaded.. and match it with the sum of the one on the site03:49
holsteinJoobusJones: use the repo version03:50
JoobusJonesholstein: of fglrx?03:51
JoobusJonesThat's stuck on like 13.x still, and doesn't even support 14.04, lol03:51
JoobusJonesOnly the latest beta release of fglrx supports 14.04 and OpenGL 4.403:51
agspy1They are the same.03:52
agspy1Whoops.03:52
holsteinJoobusJones: 14.04 has a version..03:52
JoobusJonesholstein: AMD's proprietary drivers don't officially support 14.04 until 14.6, which is presently in beta03:53
holsteinJoobusJones: if you want one that doesnt come from ubuntu, you have to seek support where it comes from.03:53
agspy1holstein: "MD5 Check Sums are the same"03:53
JoobusJonesIt's not the driver issue03:53
JoobusJonesIt's ubuntu being silly about something03:53
cfhowlettholstein so you checked BOTH the downloaded ISO and the CD?03:54
holsteinagspy1: ok.. so, now you move on to the media you created.. can you get to the integrity check? have you tried it on another machine?03:54
agspy1holstein: I dont own another machine. Its only me and my laptop03:55
holsteinagspy1: can you get to the integrity check on the media you created?03:55
holsteinagspy1: you dont have to "own" the machine to boot the media on it.. thats why i didnt ask you how many computers you owned.. i asked if you had tried the live media on another machine.. and that answer is no? correct?03:56
agspy1holstein: Thats exactly what im saying.03:56
holsteinagspy1: you made the DVD? correct? and *onlhy* tried booting it on your one laptop? correct?03:56
agspy1Yep03:56
holsteinagspy1: how about this? have you tried the integrity check?03:56
agspy1No idea what youre talking about. :)03:57
holsteinagspy1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck03:57
holsteinagspy1: then say so.. or ask.. will you please try running the integrity check on the media and let the volunteers here know if you are not able to run it, or get to that menu?03:58
agspy1holstein: Ok. I cant get to the menu.03:59
Sohronagspy1: what boot orded do you have set in BIOS?04:01
agspy1Optical drive, external, network, hard drive04:02
Sohronokay04:02
Sohronno problemo there04:02
Sohronyou should really checksum the dvd agspy104:02
agspy1Sohron: I am looking at the BootFromCD page. How am I supposed to checksum if the files look like the first picture?04:04
Sohronagspy1: if you don't know how to checksum a dvd in windows, i can't help, i haven't used windows for ten years04:05
pantsareoffUbuntu 14.04 - Wifi problems - Qualcomm chipset - Keeps disconnecting.04:06
newshoundmaybe this isn't the place, but the nicklist in ubuntu is huge for the nicklist buffer in weechat-curses -- any way to resolve this issue?04:08
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TARDISGuyHelp. My wifi keeps falling asleep.04:11
wilee-nileenewshound, #weechat maybe04:11
newshoundokay04:11
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wilee-nilee!details | TARDISGuy To the channel04:12
ubottuTARDISGuy To the channel: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:12
newshoundTARDISGuy: maybe change your power management settings04:13
wilee-nileenewshound, There is no sleep for wifi.04:14
newshoundmaybe he is using a laptop?04:16
wilee-nileethey are gone04:16
alex_How do I go about installing something from the PPA?04:17
alex_For isntance, I have this link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux04:17
wilee-nileenewshound, Maybe, is why I asked the bot to phish for details04:17
alex_But I don't know how to install it from there. Instructions are not on the page.04:17
wilee-nilee!ppa | alex_04:17
ubottualex_: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge04:17
alex_wilee-nilee: that doesn't answer my question. I know what a PPA is.04:18
wilee-nilee PPAs are unsupported third-party packages,04:18
TARDISguyDont be going all wilee-nilee on us.04:18
alex_That's fine. I'd like to install the latest version of tmux from the official PPA.04:18
wilee-nileealex_, Cool, go for it, technically we don;t help with that, however someone may, help if you keep a good attitude. ;)04:20
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alex_wilee-nilee: okay, thanks.04:22
Bashing-omalex_: see if this helps : http://www.sitepoint.com/tmux-a-simple-start/ .04:25
wrenthiefholy smoke thats a lota people in hee04:27
wrenthiefhere04:27
Bashing-omalex_: Found out PPA : https://launchpad.net/~svetlyak40wt/+archive/tmux ...04:28
wrenthiefawfully quiet in here04:29
wrenthiefoh well ,enjoy life folks04:30
syeekickalot of my executables like mumble, firefox, steam keep crashing04:32
syeekicki have no idea how to fix these issues, i tried re-installing them04:33
syeekickubuntu 14.0404:33
holsteinyou can try running them from the command line, and see if there is helpful output.. try running them as another user.. or as the guest user, or whatever to remove your configurtation from the equation04:34
holsteinsyeekick: ^04:34
syeekickthanks dude04:35
syeekickSegmentation fault (core dumped)04:35
syeekickgoogle chrome04:36
holsteinsyeekick: go with supported applications04:36
holsteinsyeekick: or, start there..04:36
syeekickhttp://pastebin.com/F5N7pgq304:36
syeekicksyee@syee:~$ mumble04:37
syeekickSegmentation fault (core dumped)04:37
syeekickfack04:37
holsteinsyeekick: i would try as another user. and test my hard drive and ram as well04:37
TARDISguyGoogle Chrome not playing Audio on YouTube: Easy fix?04:37
holsteinTARDISguy: ask them.. it literally just works here. out of the box04:38
holsteinTARDISguy: maybe you are overriding the included flash04:38
TARDISguy@holstein 1. Installed 14.04 on MDADM, 2. apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras 3. google chrome through dpkg -i04:39
Kazi_Hi, I have tried finger command but did not get what I am looking for. I am trying to list servers name that particular user has a access. Is there any commands like that?04:40
syeekickgetting some serious internal errors throughout my system too04:44
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Radon_3hi fellas, can i ask a question about calibre in this channel?04:45
Radon_3calibre on ubuntu04:45
TARDISguy@holstein chromium browser works. I guess thats fine. But I was having massive Keyboard lag before reinstall04:45
Radon_3?04:46
phunyguyRadon_3, ifit is on Ubuntu, go forit04:49
phunyguyfor it*04:49
primepieis there a reason why environment variables set in /etc/environment don't propagate anymore in trusty ?04:49
saeedullahHello All friend04:51
Radon_3_phunyguy: thank you, yes it sorta does, I have set my system proxy settings in ubuntu to use a local proxy, and I expect calibre to fetch the info using that proxy, but it seems calibre is not willing to use system wide proxy cause it is still not capable to fetche the info from some news sources04:53
Radon_3_what should I do?04:53
phunyguysome apps simply cannot use a proxy without being tricked into doing so.04:54
phunyguyI can't remember the names of them, but there are some socks proxy wrapper apps out there04:54
phunyguybasically runs the app within a wrapper that redirects all traffic from it through a socks proxy of your choosing.04:54
Bsimshey phunyguy, I just set up alpine with a zenburn theme just to read gmail... I can't decide if thats geeky or just lame04:55
phunyguyoh...k...?04:55
Radon_3_yeah, I have read in the calibre manual that I should use the http_proxy switch but I just don't know how. I am trying to figure it out...04:55
Bsimsheh a text based email client04:55
phunyguyoh, so it is in the Calibre docs...04:55
Radon_3_by the way I have been almost a month off windows, thank you ubuntu04:55
Radon_3_<3 I am so proud this is the best day of my life04:56
phunyguyRadon_3_, typically in Ubuntu the proxy settings do all that for you04:56
newshoundRadon_3_: *claps*04:56
phunyguycan you pastebin the output of `export | grep http`?04:56
newshoundBsims: have you tried mutt?04:56
Radon_3_phunyguy: yeah that is whatI hoped would happen like it has happened in the past, but I think a restart might do the trick, I am goiung for it04:57
phunyguythis conversation is becoming a bit offtopic04:57
phunyguyok04:57
Saeedullah_Hello All friend how r you04:57
phunyguyhello!04:57
Saeedullah_is ubuntu linux demage the viruse?04:58
phunyguyI don't know what that means :(04:58
Saeedullah_i mean other operating system need Anivirus for OS04:58
Saeedullah_linux need for Aniviruse Installation?04:59
phunyguySaeedullah_, typically antivirus programs on Linux are mainly to scan windows drives.04:59
phunyguythere aren't many virus for Linux, no.04:59
Saeedullah_it linux Operating system demage the virus or not?05:00
phunyguyI don't know what "demage" means05:00
Saeedullah_demage means destory05:00
phunyguyok, I still don't know what you are trying to asl.05:01
phunyguyask*05:01
Saeedullah_my question is that05:01
phunyguySaeedullah_, what is your native language? maybe there is a LoCo channel that would be better suited?05:01
Saeedullah_when some time the win xp have virus05:01
Saeedullah_then win xp is not  working correctly05:02
Saeedullah_is it linux have virus?05:02
phunyguyso you want something that won't catch a virus? Or do you want to use Linux to clean Windows XP?05:02
SachiruNot to be a grammar nazi, but it's "damage"05:02
Saeedullah_my native language is pashto05:02
SachiruNot "demage"05:02
Saeedullah_yes05:02
phunyguySachiru, there is a definite language barrier here. Let's not do that.05:03
SachiruAnd although linux has viruses, they are very rare and very limited in what they can damage.05:03
phunyguySaeedullah_, I think Ubuntu is what you want.  Install it and try it out!05:04
SachiruAnyhow, viruses do not cross-infect05:05
SachiruA virus that is designed for windows will not do anything when placed on a Linux system, and vice versa05:05
SachiruAnd since 95% of all viruses out there are designed for windows, using Linux means that by default you are protected from 95% of all viruses, even without antivirus software.05:06
SachiruOf course Antivirus software for linux exists (ClamAV), but it exists mainly for servers where data is shared with Windows machines, so that if a virus somehow gets onto the Windows share it doesn't affect everyone attempting to access the share (that and other similar use cases).05:07
phunyguyand we lost him05:07
SachiruAnd yep05:07
SachiruMust be bad afghan internet05:07
phunyguyprobably.05:07
phunyguyyou are 100% correct by the way.05:08
phunyguywell said.05:08
vilambitafghan internel LOL05:08
vilambitinternet*05:08
phunyguyok, let's move on.05:09
SachiruWEll05:10
SachiruI'd contend the 95% figure05:10
SachiruI'm thinking more along the lines of 99%, but I don't have citations05:10
phunyguyunimportant in this topic.05:11
SachiruAargh05:11
SachiruTwo 8GB flash drives configured as RAID1 mirror, LVM on top of them, installing Ubuntu to LVM05:12
SachiruNo swap space allocated on drives05:12
SachiruStill erroring in installation05:12
phunyguyhave you checked your source media for defects?05:12
phunyguyand is 8GB enough?05:13
phunyguyRAID1 with two 8 gig drives, still makes 8 gigs of space.05:13
SachiruSource media md5 sum checks OK05:13
SachiruAnd it's Lubuntu. Source media is only 600MB in size and official documentation says that the minimum requirements is 4.7 GB05:13
SachiruSo theoretically it should work.05:13
Barrin6anyone know of any truecrypt alternatives that works across all platforms? Windows, linux, osx?05:14
vilambitwhat's the problem with truecrypt again?05:14
phunyguywebsite got hacked05:14
phunyguy(I think)05:14
vilambitoh, so its not real?05:14
phunyguyanyways, Sachiru not sure man.05:15
Barrin6no one knows yet. It may be hacked, or a dead-man’s switch05:15
vilambitLOL05:15
Barrin6their website makes no sense. Telling people to use bitlocker as an alternative lol05:15
phunyguyyep, and this topic is offtopic.05:15
phunyguy:)05:15
phunyguyexcept for maybe an alternative on ubuntu05:15
Barrin6yea it is, but I don’t know where else to ask.05:16
phunyguywell is it for Ubuntu?05:16
phunyguyWhat does TrueCryot accomplish?05:16
phunyguyCrypt*05:16
matuxeveryzone05:17
Sachiru@Barrin: Google "GnuPG" and "GPG4Win"05:17
bazhang!truecrypt | phunyguy05:17
ubottuphunyguy: Truecrypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume05:17
phunyguythanks bazhang05:17
Sachiru@Barrin: Anyhow the consensus is that only the 7.2 version is suspect05:22
SachiruThe 7.1 version appears to be clean.05:22
wilee-nilee#truecrypt vilambit05:22
SachiruCurrent theories is that "We believe that there is either a power conflict in the dev team or psychological issues, coersion of some form, or a hacker with access to site and keys."05:23
Saeedullahwhat is GNU Stand?05:24
phunyguySaeedullah, you mean what does it stand for?05:24
phunyguyas in what is the acronym?05:24
Saeedullahyes05:25
phunyguyGNU's Not Unix05:25
SaeedullahGNU's Not Unix ok but what is GNU?05:25
hunthey guys, im trying to install amd drivers for my card, but the catalyst control center (administrative) fails immediately after the prompt for password no matter what i input05:25
huntthe regular catalyst ontrol center runs fie05:26
Ben64Saeedullah: http://www.gnu.org/05:26
phunyguySaeedullah, do you have an ubuntu support question?05:26
ben14Saeedullah:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU05:26
vilambitSaeedullah: GNU's Not Unix05:26
phunyguyhunt, where did you get the amd drivers?05:27
huntapt-get05:27
ben14Saeedullah:  G = GNU , N = Not , U = Unix05:27
Saeedullahthanx dear all of you now i am checking about GNU05:27
phunyguyhunt, hmm, maybe a bug report needs to be filed.05:27
SachiruIt's a recursive acronym05:27
ben14No problem :)05:28
SachiruKinda like PHP05:28
SachiruMeans nothing at all.05:28
Saeedullahben14 dose it right05:28
phunyguyso much offtopic....05:28
SaeedullahG = GNU , N = Not , U = Unix05:28
SachiruAs I sad05:28
Sachiru*said05:28
huntphunguy: that sucks! i mean i honestly am not going to change anything at the moment but damn i wish i had the option! also the entire catalyst system is very not-unixy05:28
SachiruRecursive acronym05:28
phunyguycan we please keep the discussion ubuntu support related?05:28
mchidsometimes aptitude is needed to resolve dependency issues for amd (nvidia) graphics I don't know if that applies05:29
Saeedullahrecursive acronym  means?05:29
phunyguySaeedullah, please, enough.05:29
vilambitSaeedullah: lol05:30
ben14Saeedullah: Google is your friend, please use it :)05:30
vilambitSaeedullah: now research WINE and you'll start to get it :P05:30
Saeedullahdear i want to know about Ubuntu05:30
Saeedullahi interst to learne it05:30
phunyguyso ask your Ubuntu question please.05:30
Ben64Saeedullah: you've not asked a single ubuntu related support question yet. please keep this channel clear for that purpose05:30
phunyguyplease keep in mind this is a support channel.05:30
Saeedullahok05:31
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phunyguyEveryone: There is an offtopic channel at #ubuntu-offtopic for general banter.05:32
Saeedullahwhat is the ubuntu command syntax for command?05:33
mahesh_I want to install cadence in ubuntu05:35
mahesh_any one know that05:35
huntso now that i have this new driver my games are broken :'(05:35
huntthe whole catalyst situation is far too sketchy05:35
mahesh_ritesh, hi05:35
holsteinmahesh_: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Repositories for ubuntu sources to kxstudio having cadence and others. try #opensourcemusicians05:36
holsteinhunt: the games are fine.. the new driver is not supporting the 3d that the games require05:36
huntholstein: how is that my previously driver free computer has better 3d support then the proprietary one05:37
mahesh_holstein, i am not getting any thing on that website05:37
mahesh_where i can download05:37
holsteinhunt: the open driver can provide 3d05:37
holsteinmahesh_: you can download wherever the creator provides a download. but the site i linked has sources, PPA's, that have cadence and others05:37
gomaazhi threre05:38
huntholstein: 3d still works but gmod crashes05:38
huntholstein: how do i get the open drivers btw? are they better than the standards?05:38
holsteinhunt: the open ones are just in the kernel.. they are not "better" or "worse".. they are different05:38
mahesh_holstein, thanks for your copertion05:38
mahesh_am getting05:38
huntholstein: the open ones are already installed? the problem with the open ones is there very inefficient and seem to run my gpu fan at max always05:39
huntholstein: the problem with the proprietary one is that it fucks up a lot of the graphics05:39
phunyguyplease watch the language05:39
huntphunyguy sorry forgot this was an official channel05:40
holsteinhunt: not really.. the problem with proprietary graphics and hardware that do not promise linux support is that they can be not all that great05:40
phunyguyhunt, no worries :)05:40
huntholstein: im telling you based on whats happening05:40
huntholstein: this is literally whats happenning05:41
holsteinhunt: im not doubting you one bit05:41
huntholstein: ... "not really" ...05:41
holsteinhunt: im just explaining why the driver can be not providing you 3d support.. you werent promised 3d support05:41
holsteinhunt: if the open driver works better for you, i suggest using it05:41
N300ZXIs there a way to get CPU temp in Ubuntu without installing LM-sensors05:42
N300ZXNIC isn't working so I need something built in05:42
phunyguyN300ZX, you need software to interact with the sensors.05:42
mahesh_holstein,  i getting tar.xz file for Cadence how can i install in ubuntu05:43
huntholstein: i dont know ... either way im getting lower fps then on windows as far as i can tell. ideally i just want a fast driver that works. how frequently are the open drivers updated?05:43
phunyguymahesh_, read the readme that comes with the tar05:43
phunyguymahesh_, they are all different.05:43
holsteinhunt: sure. you were promised windows support for the hardware.. so, windows performance will likely be better05:44
holsteinhunt: if you say the open one worked better, use it.. they are updated as needed.. and when changes come05:44
holsteinhunt: i understand that you want a fast driver that works, and ubuntu nor linux are preventing AMD from providing you with that05:45
huntholstein: if only the open driver didnt misuse my electronics!!!05:46
holsteinhunt: you said it worked05:46
wolshunt: the "gpu fan at max always" isn't true anymore05:46
phunyguyhunt, maybe you can get a full refund for what you paid for that driver :(05:46
phunyguy(the free one)05:47
huntwols: how do i update it? it still sounds like its at max to me05:47
phunyguythe point is, you paid for the AMD hardware, AMD should provide you the proper driver to make it work, or the ability for the Linux kernel devs to write a proper driver05:47
huntphunyguy: true, they should, but im trying to be practical here, im not going to get that from amd. im really just looking for a solution for my own problems05:48
phunyguyhunt, well, that is where we stand.05:48
holsteinhunt: practical is the company that makes the hardware supporting it.. ubuntu is not blocking that05:48
phunyguythe drivers are closed source.  That is the best we can do.05:48
hunti mean personally practical, i have no influence over what amds doing, im just trying to work with what i can get05:49
holsteinhunt: your problem is just that.. amd is doing what they promised you.. providing windows support, not linux05:49
phunyguyhunt, then you are stuck with broken 3d, or a high speed fan05:49
huntside not, screen shots?05:49
holsteinhunt: you'll routinely make compromises to run systems that are not supported05:49
hunt(of fullscreen processes)05:49
phunyguyor give your money to companies that provide proper support for linux05:50
holsteinhunt: i suggest something like system76 in the future, where they take care of this for you05:50
wolshunt: since kernel 3.13 it's already in the kernel. google for "radeon dpm" to see how it works or how you can enable it05:50
phunyguywols, good suggestion if it works05:50
huntwols: how do i check my kernel version?05:50
phunyguyuname -r05:50
phunyguy(at command line)05:50
phunyguyif you are on 14.04, then you are on 3.1305:51
hunti am on 14.04... it says dpm is enabled by default. why would my fans appear to me running at max or at least far higher then they are with the proprietary driver? if it changes anything the only drivers ive installed so far are the amd ones05:52
holsteinhunt: i have several boxes like that..05:52
huntholstein: does dpm just not work properly?05:52
holsteinhunt: i make compromises based on the situation i need05:52
holsteinhunt: ?05:52
holsteinhunt: its the hardware, friend.. its not intended to support linux05:52
wolshunt: if you have fglrx installed then they are running and not the free ones05:52
holsteinhunt: thats the issue.. i wasnt promised linux support for them.. nothing is broken. .everything is working as intended05:53
shunya_chakrahi is youtube-dl available in gui?05:53
huntwols: my fglrx drivers (which are running right now) are far quieter then the free ones from before i installed this driver05:53
holsteinhunt: one is using the openchrome driver which has gotten *much* better05:53
holstein!info youtube-dl05:54
ubottuyoutube-dl (source: youtube-dl): downloader of videos from YouTube and other sites. In component universe, is extra. Version 2014.02.17-1 (trusty), package size 231 kB, installed size 1080 kB05:54
wigircshunya_chakra, I didn't see this05:54
Gallomimiaerror: failure reading sector 0x0  from hd005:54
phunyguyGallomimia, did you drop your computer?05:54
Gallomimiano05:54
Gallomimiai'm making a fresh install on a raid5 of 3 drives05:55
Gallomimiahaven't got it to boot yet05:55
shunya_chakraok wigirc, yesterday one youtube-dlg sees in some blog... I'm just concern is it official available.05:55
phunyguyhmmm... do you get any errors during the install?05:55
Gallomimiabut i'm in the middle of working on it and the damn keyboard won't work in basic installer. works fine in grub05:55
holsteinshunya_chakra: ?05:55
Gallomimiaoh yeah dozens05:55
holsteinshunya_chakra: its from the repos, install and use it if you like05:55
Gallomimiathe latest run of installer seemed to work out. i was shocked. i felt naked05:56
shunya_chakraholstein, youtube-dl gui version05:56
holsteinshunya_chakra: i dont use it.. a web browser is a gui..05:56
phunyguyGallomimia, if you are asking for support, some of the errors your are getting would help a ton.05:56
holsteinshunya_chakra: look at the source of what you are talking about and see if you trust it..05:57
pentagonpieshunya_chakra: youtube-dl allways breaks05:57
Gallomimiaright now, i'm in a grub commandline. i can't even get an installer to run. keyboard stops working soon as anything more complicated than bios control or grub starts05:57
shunya_chakraholstein, ok05:57
shunya_chakrapentagonpie, it works good for my unstable itnernet05:57
phunyguyGallomimia, but what about in the ubuntu installer?05:57
shunya_chakrainternete05:57
Gallomimiaphunyguy: no it never gets past language selection05:58
Gallomimiai had it working yesterday05:58
pentagonpieshunya_chakra: what i meant was, google updates youtube so you wont be able to use youtube-dl05:58
Gallomimiathen i got some bios reset error and it stopped doing that05:58
phunyguyGallomimia, have you checked the integrity of the install source?05:59
helmut_hi05:59
Gallomimiai guess it might have gotten broken since05:59
wigircshunya_chakra, what about flashgot? Does it support?05:59
shunya_chakrapentagonpie, is there any good alternative05:59
Gallomimiabut i've got two different installers here that fail at the same point, and they've both worked before05:59
phunyguyweird.  Wish I knew.05:59
shunya_chakrawigirc, flashgot, i haven't used it.. it got funny name.. :)05:59
Gallomimiaso thats two of us05:59
Gallomimia3 or 4 if you count the other people who have examined this problem06:00
pentagonpieshunya_chakra: from what I understand, youtube-dl developers always update to fix that :)06:00
Gallomimiaim ready to reflash the bios06:00
Ben64don't do that06:00
Gallomimiabut from all i can see, its the same version as the one i've got already06:00
phunyguyGallomimia, it can't hurt.... unless you aren't careful ;)06:00
Gallomimiayeah06:00
Gallomimiathen it can really hurt :P06:00
Gallomimiaoh well. new mobo i guess06:00
shunya_chakrayup pentagonpie i also read it in some blog.... always use updated youtube-dl.06:00
phunyguyok folks, I need to go to bed.06:00
phunyguygoodnight06:00
gomaazn806:00
Gallomimiathe one i have now has a dual bios. it claimed corruption06:00
Ben64try a different keyboard and/or change bios settings06:00
Gallomimiaand copied from the 2nd setup06:01
Ben64dual bios? is it a gigabyte?06:01
Gallomimiayeah06:01
Ben64turn off fast boot06:01
phunyguy(I have one of those on order)06:01
Gallomimiaoh yeah06:01
phunyguyok night06:01
Gallomimiawhere the hell is that again?06:01
Gallomimiathey're pretty good boards06:01
Ben64idk, but it boots so fast it often forgets to enable things like usb06:01
Gallomimiawait. i just downloaded pdf of manual06:03
Gallomimiasearch it ><06:03
vilambithow do i get mplayer to show the OSD by default?06:05
wigircvilambit, if you use nautilus right button, preferences as I remember06:08
vilambitwigirc: huh?06:11
vilambitwigirc: what's nautilus have to do with it06:11
vilambitanyway i found it "--osdlevel=3"06:11
slipperynickhi, what settings would prevent byubo keyboard shortcuts from working in one terminal program over another?06:12
guest-PMljDOhello06:14
guest-PMljDOcan you speak german06:14
wigircvilambit, oh i read it incorrectly06:15
allencan i change the window border color in unity, like i can in say Mate or XFCE, or do i have to apply a theme and thats all i have for choices?06:17
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benccwhat happens when I put "&" at the end of a line like:06:24
benccXvfb :2 -screen 0 1024x768x24 &06:24
kcbme_hello, need help with black screen after startup. splash screen is fine, yet no desktop after loading06:26
mdunc_bencc: that runs the command in the background06:26
benccmdunc_:  thanks. this is what I'm using http://dpaste.com/0DH4Q5Z/06:27
mdunc_bencc: if you wanted to bring that command back to the foreground, use the ‘fg’ command06:27
kcbme_much praise and worship to the one that makes my life livable again! ;)06:27
benccit works and now I'm trying to understand how to use it06:27
benccmdunc_: can I run multiple commands in the background?06:28
mdunc_bencc: yep :)06:28
wilee-nileekcbme_, power on and after grub hit the esc key to see the text.06:28
benccmdunc_: thanks06:28
pentagonpiebencc: google linux job control06:29
mdunc_bencc: another tip, if you forget the &, instead of doing CTRL-C and quitting it, you can use CTRL-Z to pause it and then the ‘bg’ command to run it in the background06:29
kcbme_i have a black screen after boot up, can anyone help?06:29
benccpentagonpie: reading06:30
benccmdunc_: thanks06:30
gabinonerdvaderhola alguna chica con culo sediento de sexo06:30
kcbme_wilee-nilee06:30
wilee-nileekcbme_, What?06:30
kcbme_i see lots of loading text,06:30
kcbme_wilee-nilee what should i look for?06:31
wilee-nileekcbme_, Look for errors and or where it stops. Is said you see a splash, is this right after grub?06:31
wilee-nileeis=you06:32
gabinonerdvaderi want crack wifi wpa in grapick mode, someone know this????06:32
kcbme_yes, it shows the xubuntu logo with blue background then all balck and the usb drive is done loading06:32
wilee-nileekcbme_, I only gave you an option, this does not mean I have any answers.06:33
benccon ubuntu server, can I use X server 1 with xvfb or is there something else that use it? "Xvfb :0 -screen 0 1024x768x24 &"06:34
sunil_helo06:34
gabinonerdvadervamos putos escriban en español06:35
kcbme_wilee-nilee ok. well im at that desperate point. :( it started after installing skype, then skype would not let me log in cause it said i was already logged in on the comp. and i installed some i386 libs, then decided to uninstall sype. then on reboot no screen06:35
wilee-nilee!es | gabinonerdvader06:35
ubottugabinonerdvader: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.06:35
benoror Hi! I want to migrate from gpg4usb to gpg command line in ubuntu. I already have a pubring, secring and trustdb generated. any resources on how should I proceed?06:35
sunil_I need know to that how can i find which one computer is downloading in my office.06:36
wilee-nileekcbme_, That would cause a little frustration. ;) Not the end of the world though, so relax a little, this is a slower time on the channel, but sounds fixable.06:36
kcbme_wilee-nilee i hope so.06:37
kcbme_i believe upon first ubuntu install many months ago i had similar issues. and the text for the fix is on the desktop which i cant see but i do have access to root and tty06:37
gabinonerdvaderi want crack wpa someone have anything sample to do for this case06:37
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sunil_I need know to that how can i find which one ubuntu computer is downloading in my office06:38
wilee-nileegabinonerdvader, wrong channel for that. ;)06:38
pentagonpiegabinonerdvader: chech kali linux06:38
kcbme_wilee-nilee thank you, i am a bit flustered. and yes it is probably fixable. sorry for the intensity06:39
wilee-nilee kcbme_ This a ssh or on line computer?06:39
Sachiru@Sunil: I'd recommend that you consult gateway logs for that.06:40
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SachiruOr use something like pfSense/Zentyal for your gateway06:40
kcbme_wilee-nilee its my local laptop on an external usb drive06:40
wilee-nileekcbme_, If your at the computer boot the live to get to the desktop on the install.06:40
kcbme_wilee-nilee tried that. doesnt like it. i will get a usb stick and try it again though06:41
ryan___hello06:43
Guest63073hi06:43
benororhello06:43
kcbme_wilee-nilee i remember the first time i installed, it gave me similar issues. cant remember the fix for intel graphics chipset.06:43
benororsomeone with GPG expertise? I have a question :)06:44
kcbme_wilee-nilee but if i can boot up from stick, what are my options?06:44
ryan___i'm having trouble booting ubuntu, something w/ can't mount06:44
wilee-nileekcbme_, You said you had that fix on the installs desktop06:44
Guest63073hi there06:44
kcbme_wilee-nilee yeah. so it will let me see the files. ok cool. :)06:44
kcbme_wilee-nilee hopefully its the same issue...06:45
wilee-nileekcbme_, Yeah, if it is a command needed you are not running the install from you desktop so if you get there tell us what the fix is if you like.06:45
wilee-nileeyour*06:45
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jackbrowncould anyone help me with Docky? IT often crashes expecially when I suspend and resume my machine then I launched it with debug option here is the output http://dpaste.com/3C5DWFS/06:46
kcbme_wilee-nilee of course i will.06:46
wilee-nileecool06:46
Gallomimiahey! i always hear about installing mdadm for using software raid. but when i go to install that it's a mailserver06:50
LoshkiGallomimia: google "HOWTO: Linux Software Raid using mdadm". That should get you started...06:52
GallomimiaLoshki: thanks that's the readup i'm working from. its the one that says install mdadm which is a mail client ><06:54
Gallomimiamail server! sorry06:54
Gallomimiano it's not. it just installs a mail server for you :/ whats up with that06:55
LoshkiGallomimia: dunno, never used it myself. Sounds like you're unstuck for the moment.06:56
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prabath #modsecurity07:13
prabath #modsecurity07:15
Pr0jectRec0nIf I updated to a backported kernel froim precise (to trusty) by doing 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty inux-image-generic-lts-trusty & linux-headers-generic-lts-trusty', how easily do I go back to the orig kernel verison?07:18
leomarkhey guys, Im trying to install apache2 in ubuntu.. I got an error saying "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so"07:22
wilee-nileePr0jectRec0n, You might look at this for another option. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack07:24
AlderGuys! How do I verify that the exact same .iso that sits on my desktop was transferred to my USB drive? How do I verify the SHA-1 AFTER transferring it? Do you understand?07:26
Pr0jectRec0nAlder, md5sum <file>07:26
AlderPr0jectRec0n: That has nothing to do with what I asked. :S07:26
ciurkuthello i have weird problem... after reboot my wallpaper and lockscreen theme changes in gnome shell... any idea?07:26
wolsAlder: shasum /dev/sdb or shasum /dev/sda1 wherever you copied it to07:27
Alderwols: Are you 100% sure? Does this work on Mac too?07:27
slimjimflimhi, randomly my screen freezes and i get flashing boxes all over it and the only way to get any response is to do a hard reboot.  running trusty tahr 14.04 (3.13.0-24-generic), this also happened running 12.10.  from lspci: "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)"07:28
slimjimflimon a del inspiron n511007:28
wolsAlder: why do you care? do you think your PC is maliciously writing the wrong imagefile to the stick?07:28
slimjimflim*dell07:28
slimjimflimalso i get this weirdness from dmesg:  http://pastie.org/923378107:28
slimjimflimalso, running xubuntu07:29
slimjimflimbut i doubt that has anything to do with it07:29
Alderwols: Making sure never hurts? :)07:29
wolsAlder: it does hurt. wasting time is wasting time.07:29
Alderwols: I don't see it as wasted time. :S07:30
wolscause if the above were true you were already compromised and it'd be a waste of time: the malware would corrupt your shasum :P07:30
Alder:O07:30
slimjimflim...also from lsmod "video                  18903  1 i91507:31
slimjimflim"07:31
slimjimflimcan anyone help?07:32
leomark_how can I install the lists of apache module?07:32
slimjimflimleomark_: the lists?07:33
somsipleomark_: exactly what do you mean? sudo a2enmod?07:33
leomark_@somsip Im installing apache2 but I got some error saying "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so"07:33
somsipleomark_: how are you installing apache2? What version of ubuntu>07:34
slimjimflimleomark_: does that file exist?07:34
leomark_@slimjimflim the file dont exists..07:34
somsipleomark_: did you upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4 recently?07:35
leomark_Maybe I need to install some module in apache..07:35
leomark_yes..07:35
somsipleomark_: http://serverfault.com/questions/386687/update-to-apache-2-4-missing-modules07:35
wolsslimjimflim: pastebin the output of "lspci -nn" and "dpkg -l|grep bumb"07:35
slimjimflimwols: http://pastie.org/9233805 http://pastie.org/923380907:38
wolsslimjimflim: you have no nvidia card installed but you have bumblebee installed. remove it07:39
slimjimflimwols: hrm, yea it didn't look like lspci was talking about me having a nvidia card07:40
slimjimflimwols: bumblebee is a nvidia driver or something i take it?07:40
wolsno. bumblebee is a tool to switch between discrete and igp videocards, mainly for nvidia but not exclusively07:41
slimjimflimwols: what are the odds of complete annihilation if i do this?07:41
slimjimflimhave you tried this before...did it fix something?07:42
slimjimflimk guess ur afk.  fuckit here we go...07:44
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uc_dudehi. i'm trying to update devede to 3.23 but it stays at 3.21 can anybody help?07:50
somsip!info devede07:50
ubottudevede (source: devede): simple application to create Video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.23.0~ds1-5ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 1848 kB, installed size 3894 kB07:50
somsipuc_dude: so you are running 14.04 are you? And devede is not pinned on installed via a PPA?07:51
uc_dude12.0407:51
somsip!info devede precise07:51
ubottudevede (source: devede): simple application to create Video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.21.0-1 (precise), package size 2313 kB, installed size 4311 kB07:52
WizardHi. Since 3D on my system is broken since about 9.10 and since there is probably no option for running 3d with KMS on this laptop I have a question. Would it be tricky to install for example 8.04, cut it to bare bones of kernel/base system/xorg and than debootstrap 14.04 and run desktop from chroot?07:52
somsipuc_dude: so you're on the up to date version for 12.0407:52
WizardHave somebody tried such a strange setup? :P07:52
uc_dudefar as i know07:52
WizardSounds crazy, but may work.07:52
somsipuc_dude: it's a staement. You *are* on the up to date version for 12.04. So you can't upgrade to a newer version from the up to date version07:52
somsipWizard: sounds crazy, probably wont work. Just install 14.04 if that's what you want07:53
uc_dudei'm talking about the latest version of devede07:53
somsipuc_dude: the latest version of devede for 12.04 is the version you have - 3.21. You could try a PPA though07:54
somsip!ppa | uc_dude07:54
ubottuuc_dude: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge07:54
uc_dudeok. how do i do that?07:54
somsipYou see the URL just after 'Looking for a PPA?' in the sentence above. Follow it07:55
Wizard_Shimpu:07:55
Wizard_somsip: No option07:55
Wizard_No 3d = no unity, no gnome shell07:55
somsipWizard_: I can't help you then07:55
somsipWizard_: so use a diffeent wM?07:55
Wizard_Sure thing, don't worry07:55
Wizard_somsip: Not an option ;D07:55
somsipWizard_: EOT for me07:55
Wizard_Not for me. I'll try chroot07:56
Wizard_:)07:56
slimjimflimwhy is my dpkg wrong? ...anyone? http://pastie.org/9233852 and http://pastie.org/923385407:56
slimjimflimwols: even07:56
dfrankhi guys. Is that technically possible to add some apt repository with _many_ versions of _the_same_ package?  Say, repository with several versions of firefox, or any other package.07:56
uc_dudegiving it a try.07:56
slimjimflimdfrank: you could compile from source07:57
somsipdfrank: PPAs can do this. Example is deadsnakes for Python. See !PPA07:57
dfrankslimjimflim: I know I can, I also can download deb package and install it with dpkg. I'm asking exactly about apt repository with _many_ versions of _the_same_ package.07:58
dfranksomsip: each PPA version can contain only one version of each package, as far as I see07:58
wilee-nileedfrank, look closer they probably are release specific.07:58
somsipdfrank: no. An example of this is the deadsnakes PPA for python, like I said.07:58
dfranksomsip: is there some PPA repository with at least two versions of the same package?07:58
dfranksomsip: ok thanks will look now07:59
slimjimflimsomsip: dfrank: interesting  ... https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA07:59
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ubottuMarkCn: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw08:00
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slimjimflimutf ftw08:01
dfranksomsip: actually there are different packages: python2.6 , python2.7 , etc.08:01
dfranksomsip: so the question is still relevant: is there possible to have some repository (maybe PPA or any else) that would contain many versions of the same package08:02
somsipdfrank: define what you mean by 'different versions' if you don't mean different version numbers then08:02
slimjimflimdfrank: depends on the package tho.  ie, there's only one php package...5.4 for trusty08:03
somsipdfrank: maybe it's all a moot point. What is your real question?08:03
dfranksomsip: I mean exactly version number.   "python2.6" is a package name. Say, when I want to install firefox of version 11, I can type:  sudo aptitude install firefox=11.0+build1-0ubuntu408:04
somsipdfrank: so you want to install an old version of FF?08:04
dfranksomsip: version number can be specified after '=' sign08:04
somsipdfrank: only candidates can be installed. Current candidates for FF and current and about 3.5 from memory08:05
slimjimflimdfrank: it doesn't work like that08:05
slimjimflimthere are dependencies08:05
dfranksomsip: I want to have general way to install old versions of any package.  I've already found deb package of firefox, so right now I don't need to install older firefox08:05
slimjimflimit would be awesome if it did tho08:05
slimjimflimdfrank: you can always find the  ubuntu version that the package you want was built for and run it in a vm08:06
MonkeyDustdfrank  i haven't followed, but here's a howto, try if it's possible http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-how-do-i-create-a-ppa-71510.html08:06
somsipdfrank: I've never heard of such a thing, so EOT for me08:06
slimjimflimdfrank: i went off on a similar tangent recently and eventually gave up and made a vm08:07
dfranksomsip: sorry my English isn't perfect, what is "EOT"?08:07
MonkeyDusteond of topic08:07
somsipdfrank: End Of Thread. I'm out of the discussion as I can't help.08:07
dfranksomsip: i see, thanks for your time08:08
slimjimflimdfrank: virtualbox is your friend08:08
dfrankslimjimflim: well, this is so dirty hack. I like ubuntu and debian but I hate its total dislike of downgrading anything.08:09
slimjimflimdfrank: there's always arch and gentoo08:10
slimjimflimdfrank: or you could compile from source and replace the bin in /usr/bin08:10
dfrankslimjimflim: i know. they have their own troubles. well, thanks for your time too.08:10
slimjimflimnp08:11
dfrankslimjimflim: i know i can, but it is all dirty hacks. I believe it's not so technically hard to implement, say, an automatic way to undo 'aptitude upgrade', it would save a lot of time for me. but, it isn't supported and most likely never will be, because it's agains ubuntu (and debian) philosophy08:12
dfrank*against08:12
slimjimflimyep08:12
slimjimflimdfrank: it's all about the dependencies08:12
slimjimflimdfrank: honestly, if you really want to test an old version of ff, just do it in a vm08:13
slimjimflimthat's the easiest way08:13
dfrankslimjimflim: no. It's all about philosophy. If I have repository with old version of, say, firefox, then aptitude will resolve all the dependencies08:13
dfrankslimjimflim: if I specify, say, 'sudo aptitude install firefox=11.0+build1-0ubuntu4'08:14
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slimjimflimdfrank: yea, but if your repo is for an older version of ubuntu, the dependencies for your ff version might conflict with other packages on the machine08:15
dfrankslimjimflim: it will warn me of course, but if I agree, then it will remove/install/downgrade/upgrade everything that needs to08:15
slimjimflimthat's why repos are version specific08:15
slimjimflimit's an all or nothing kind of thing08:15
dfrankslimjimflim: if we have repos with ALL versions of ALL packages, then all the dependencies can be resolved08:15
slimjimflimdfrank: you'd have to fork ubuntu to do that :P08:16
slimjimflimgood luck08:16
slimjimflimin the meantime, use a vm08:17
* slimjimflim runs off to watch youtubez of ppl shooting guns and hopes his video card finally stops teh failz...l8rzzz08:18
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Md_hi08:39
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Guest21663I am installing bugzilla on my ubuntu machine08:39
Guest21663please help me to install DBD::Oracle module08:40
Guest21663for that08:40
Guest21663hi08:41
Guest21663anyone there08:41
MonkeyDust!info bugzilla08:42
ubottuPackage bugzilla does not exist in trusty08:42
wigircWhat difference between background and foreground job of processes?08:43
wigircbg and fg08:44
MonkeyDustwigirc  foreground shows output, basically08:44
wigircMonkeyDust, background doesn't?08:45
Versudobackground should, unless you're redirecting output to a file08:45
Versudobut the job's08:46
Versudoin the background, so you can interact with the shell08:46
wigircthanks, try to understand in examples now)08:48
MonkeyDustwigirc  ctrl-z sends jobs to the background... 'jobs' shows what's running and fg [number] brings them to the foreground08:50
llutzctrl-z stops a job, bg brings it in background08:50
MonkeyDustjust tried it with htop... it's ctrl-c that stops a job08:51
wigircoh ok. Now I see, thanks08:51
llutzMonkeyDust: ctrl-c terminates a job08:51
MonkeyDustllutz  ok, then it must be grammar, to stops = terminates08:51
sledgeDJhey guys... I am tryig to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.08:51
MonkeyDustto me*08:52
Ben64sledgeDJ: you can try asking in #winehq and  you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine08:52
llutzMonkeyDust: stops as in suspend process but keep it in memory waiting for ...08:53
vinou33hello, is there someone who can explain me how i could work on .doc, .xls, .xlsx, .docx files on my laptop which OS is ubuntu ?08:53
benororvinou33: LibreOffice08:53
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vinou33benoror: yes, but it doesn't seem to appear like on word or excel08:54
benororbecause is not word nor excel08:54
Guest88491!list08:54
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vinou33benoror: People who are going to read the files will open them thanks to word or excel. It will not create a problem ?08:55
llutzMonkeyDust: from bash man-page (Job Control): " ... Typing the suspend character (typically ^Z, Control-Z) while a process is running causes that process to be stopped and returns control to bash...."08:55
benororvinou33: they won"t have major issues, probably only little compatibility details, but they will be able to open the files afterwards08:56
vinou33benoror: it is a CV... I am a bit lost...08:56
bcveryvinou33, why not save it as a PDF; LibreOffice can do that once you've created the document08:58
sledgeDJhey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.08:59
ArahaelHey guys, can I ask what udisks are used for?09:00
Arahael(Why don't we just use, for instance, udev+pmount?)09:00
vinou33bcvery: yes, it is a good idea. Nevertheless, companies sometimes send files which format is .doc or .docx. I must add data and send back to them...09:01
vinou33should i use a vm ?09:02
bekksvinou33: Yes.09:02
Marfuhello09:02
Marfuwhere is channel for polish people ubuntu?09:03
vinou33is there someone who use this method ?09:03
Arahaelvinou33: You might be able to use the free word viewer MS gives, and run it in wine...  But running a separate VM is by far less frustrating.09:03
llutz!pl | Marfu09:03
ubottuMarfu: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.09:03
wigircvinou33, use xp with word 2003+patch 2007 compatible09:03
Arahaelvinou33: I do most of my work in VM's.09:03
MarfuAnybody can help me to put my package to ubuntu? (freeware font)09:03
vinou33Arahael: i work on Oracle Linux thanks to an Oracle VM which is free. Nevertheless, windows is not really free ^^.09:04
MonkeyDustvinou33  i have win xp as a virtual machine, only for ms office, because it's the standard09:04
Arahaelvinou33: Almost every computer comes with a copy of windows.09:04
vinou33So, i should try to retrieve the windows copy but will the key be usable ?09:05
lotuspsychjei recently installed lubuntu 14.04 on a laptop and had to manually add nm-applet to startup items to see wifi networks, is this a known issue to lubuntu or could something else cause this?09:05
Arahaelvinou33: Why wouldn't it be?09:05
Arahaelvinou33: Did you give it away to someone else?09:05
vinou33Arahael: no, i didn't.09:06
Arahaelvinou33: (Oh, that remidns me... You might have some difficulty with OEM versions)09:06
vinou33Arahael: OEM ?09:06
Arahaelvinou33: Still, give it a go.09:06
Arahaelvinou33: At worst, it'll be good for 30 days.09:06
MarfuWhere I can fount maintenacer for packeges font?09:06
pentagonpiedpkg -l still showes apps I removed, what can I do?09:07
vinou33Arahael: i am going to see.09:08
llutzpentagonpie: shown as "rc package..."? sudo aptitude purge '~C'09:08
vinou33Thank you for your help (everybody)09:10
Arahaelvinou33: (btw, don't mix virtual machines. Pick one and then use only that one)09:11
Arahaelvinou33: (ie, pick either vmware, or virtualbox, or the like)09:12
thechahi what is the difference between vi and vim?09:12
llutzthecha: vim is "more improved", mostly vi is only a symlink to vim nowadays09:13
Arahaelthecha: Sometimes vi is a smaller version of vim.09:13
thechawhen i type "vi filename"  into ubuntu terminal does vim or vi open09:13
thechaand what is the diference09:13
Arahaelthecha: But they are infact the same application, then calling vim using 'vi' will cause it to open in vi-emulation mode.09:13
Arahaelthecha: So you get a more restricted, more compatible set of features.  If you actually prefer the full functionality, then use 'vim', not 'vi'.09:14
thechawhat does vim have that vi doesnt09:14
Arahaelthecha: Everything. :)09:14
thechabecause i was able to work with vi out of the box09:14
thechaeverything?09:14
Arahaelthecha: word completion. tabs for files.09:14
thechacan you list all things included in "everything" ? thanks09:14
thechaewww09:14
Arahaelthecha: No.09:14
thechaword ompletion while i am writing bash files isnt that dangerous?09:15
thechatabs sounds gfood though09:15
bekkswhy would that be dangerous?09:15
Radon_3I want to change the (default) theme of my ubuntu 12.04 instllation, how can i get a different look and feel out of the system without messing it up?09:15
thechait might autocomplete some key command btu doing it wrong and thus creating a bash virus that will destroy the world09:16
thechaor maybe even my computer09:16
bekksthecha: honestly, thats nonsense.09:16
Arahaelthecha: You have to explicitly set word completion, it's ^p unless I'm mistaken.09:16
thecha:(09:16
llutzthecha: open vim, type ":h vi-differences", read09:16
Arahaelthecha: It also has syntax highlighting.09:16
thechaso no world destruction by accident?09:16
thechawow09:16
Radon_3any ideas folks09:16
bekksthecha: No nonsense by accident.09:16
Radon_3?09:16
thechasyntax highlighting sounds pretty neat09:16
Arahaelthecha: No. But it also doesn't have M-x bufferfly09:17
Arahaelthecha: (For THAT, you need emacs)09:17
thechaok so now that i understand the difference between vi and copycat vim what is the difference between vi/m and emacs?09:17
bekksthecha: different editors.09:17
thechais there an advantage to use emacs over vi/m09:17
somsip!atroll | thecha (not a question for this channel)09:17
Arahaelthecha: Of course. vim does not have M-x butterfly.09:17
thechabut whne i only code in c+++ is there any benefeit to learn emacs?09:17
thechaif i nevr use lisp09:18
somsip!ot | thecha09:18
ubottuthecha: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:18
bekksthecha: how is all that related to Ubuntu?09:18
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thechaok i am new to linux09:18
thechai wont ask any questions liek those anymore09:18
thechabut i thought i would ask other ubuntu users these basic  noob questions09:18
thechamy bad09:18
thecha:(09:19
bekksthecha: these arent ubuntu related questions, thats all.09:19
Radon_3is my question also noobish?09:19
bekksRadon_3: More important, it is ontopic.09:19
gsilvaGood morning. Does anyone here has installed Spotify recently?09:20
thechaofftopic gsilva09:20
thecha>:(09:20
bekksgsilva: How does that poll help you?09:20
gsilvapoll? which poll?09:20
Radon_3bekks: hey bekks, I hope you got my message about appologizing and stuff a weak or so back. any ways, do you have any suggestions for me?09:20
bekksgsilva: "does anyone..." is considered to be a poll.09:21
somsipgsilva: just ask your real question and if it's on topic and someone can help you, maybe they will09:21
gsilvawell, my idea is to ask if someone has installed it in Ubuntu 14.04 since I can't install it09:21
bekksRadon_3: I'm sorry I never needed/wanted to change the 12.04 theme.09:21
Radon_3oh forget it Ubuntu looks good already.09:22
bekksgsilva: And which error do you get...?09:22
gsilvaI believe the repositories are wrong09:22
bekksgsilva: Why do you think so?09:22
somsipgsilva: how did you install it? PPA?09:22
Arahaelgsilva: Do you believe that nobody else can install Ubuntu?09:22
gsilvaI read people weren't being able to install in 14.0409:22
gsilvaI tried command lines and putting the address on system settings09:23
bekksgsilva: And...? State the error messages you get please09:23
bekksgsilva: Until now, you did not provide any information someone is able to help you with.09:23
gsilva"The information about available software is out-of-date"09:23
Marfuhello where I can found sponsor of package?09:24
bekksgsilva: when doing what...?09:24
somsipMarfu: launchpad usually09:24
gsilvaDude, take it easy. I'm not that comfortable with Linux anyways so ask something. If I knew how to diagnose the problem, I wouldn't be here09:24
Marfusomsip, ? please cleary09:24
somsipMarfu: the maintainers for packages are usually listed on Launchpad09:25
gsilvabekks, when putting the address of the repository via system settings09:25
Marfusomsip, I have a font and would like to put it to repo09:25
somsipgsilva: is this a ppa?09:25
gsilvaI did as this article suggests: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-1009:25
sledgeDJ_hey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.09:25
gsilvaI believe it is a ppa, yes09:25
sledgeDJ_can anyone please help?09:25
Marfusomsip, Can You show me where exactly?09:25
bekksgsilva: dude, tone down and look out for someone else still wanting to help you. I dont want to help you anymore. Good luck.09:25
somsip!packaging | Marfu09:25
ubottuMarfu: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring09:25
Radon_3so my clamav antivirus says that it is out dated cause a new version is out, is the new version going to be provided by the repositories or I have to get it from the clamav website and install it myself?09:26
gsilvasledgeDJ_, try Wine. I believe it's the best option09:26
lotuspsychje!info clamav09:26
ubottuclamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98.1+dfsg-4ubuntu1.1 (trusty), package size 78 kB, installed size 599 kB09:26
Ben64sledgeDJ: you can try asking in #winehq and  you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine09:26
wigircDoes synaptic write his logs in /var/log/apt/history.log?09:26
somsipgsilva: PPAs are not supported here, though from that link it's not entirely clear if it's a PPA or an official client. I can't help either way09:27
gsilvait's not an official client, otherwise you could download it from Spotify's website09:27
gsilvaAnyways, thanks for helping. I guess the repository is out-of-date09:28
somsipgsilva: official as in 'official to Ubuntu'09:28
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gsilvait's official, somsip: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/spotify-linux-preview-update-new-design09:29
somsipgsilva: I can't help you. Maybe someone else casn09:29
somsip*can09:29
gsilvaalright, seems fair09:29
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gsilvathanks though09:29
thechahow can i compile a file in ubuntu?09:34
cfhowlett!compile09:34
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall09:34
thechathaks cfhowlett09:35
cfhowlettthecha happy to help09:35
basiclaserhey guys where/when can i get my hands on a ubuntu tablet?09:38
lotuspsychje!touch | basiclaser09:38
ubottubasiclaser: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch09:38
lotuspsychjebasiclaser: its already possible to install ubuntu-touch on some devices, oem phones comming this fall09:39
moldyhi09:40
moldyany idea how to get wifi working on a macbook pro with 14.04?09:40
MO_HandesI want my squid proxy server to keep log files from know till ever and does not remove them, is it done by default or should I configure it?09:44
lotuspsychje!squid | MO_Handes09:45
cfhowlettbasiclaser presently there IS no ubuntu tablet ...09:45
ubottuMO_Handes: squid is a caching proxy for the Web.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard  See: http://www.squid-cache.org09:45
llutzMO_Handes: you have to check logrotates config for squid too09:45
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lotuspsychjecfhowlett: some devices should have touch support on ubuntu desktop 14.0409:46
cfhowlettlotuspsychje true but so far as I know, no OEM's are being sold with ubuntu pre-installed - which is my response to the question I thought he was asking.09:47
basiclasercfhowlett: thanks09:47
basiclaserlotuspsychje: thanks09:47
cfhowlettbasiclaser happy to help09:48
receptionist有说中文的吗10:01
lotuspsychje!cn | receptionist10:01
ubottureceptionist: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw10:01
DJones!cn | receptionist10:01
sledgeDJcan anyone please help?10:01
sledgeDJcan anyone please help?10:01
sledgeDJhey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.10:01
lotuspsychjesledgeDJ: wine or virtualbox windows10:02
cfhowlettsledgeDJ these ^^^10:02
Ben64sledgeDJ: stop asking the same question over and over again without listening to the answer. I replied with this twice already, read it. You can try asking in #winehq and you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine10:03
bekkssledgeDJ: Install virtualbox, create a vm, install windows, and run your software.10:04
Fly80hello, i have a vpn client (FortiClientSSLVPN) that I have to launch to connect to a VPN. Is it possible to integrate it in the network-manager connections in some way?10:06
user123321Ubuntu which has been installed through Windows 7 suddenly stopped booting. When I choose Ubuntu and it freezes on a "purple" background. Pressing ctrl+alt+del and choosing Ubuntu again had no luck. Please help. :|10:21
MonkeyDustuser123321  "through windows 7"... you mean wubi?10:21
user123321MonkeyDust: Umm, not sure what's it called. I installed Ubuntu while on Windows 7. No virtual machine.10:22
sr71blackYes, through wubi so10:22
user123321Maybe it's wubi.10:22
sr71blackyes10:23
cfhowlettuser123321 wubi is dying, dead, no longer developed or supported.   consider your options10:23
MonkeyDustuser123321  such installation is supposed to be used for testing reasons only10:24
sr71blackuser123321: but... I have doubts, user123321, whats version of Ubuntu are you using for wubi? It's strange if it is in 14.01410:24
sr71blacksorry, 14.0410:24
sr71blackfor testing only is a dvdlive10:25
Sohronwubi is not supported anymore, not for a while in fact10:25
sr71blackyes, but, please, user123321 are you using 14.04 version?10:25
cfhowlettuser123321 start windows.  install virtualbox.  download 32 bit lubuntu or xubuntu.  Install x/l/ubuntu into the virtualbox.    OR you could do a proper dual boot10:26
user123321It's 12.xx latest, LTS.10:26
sr71blackthe latest LTS is 14.0410:26
user123321Oh, maybe then it was released recently? hmm.10:27
sr71blackI recommend you install on another disk or a partition with Ubuntu 14.0410:27
bekksuser123321: It was released in April.10:27
sr71blackor their familiar like Lubuntu, Xubuntu, whatever you want10:27
user123321Oh, mine seems yo be old, downloaded around jan it seems - ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd6410:29
user123321to be old*10:29
sr71blackyes, it's old10:29
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cfhowlettuser123321 it's still supported, but current version is 12.04.410:29
user123321cfhowlett: Would it have been updated to that version through update manager? Because I make sure it's updated. That file name, I got it from what's inside my Windows.10:30
cfhowlettuser123321 depends on the command you gave.  apt-get update would not change the version.  apt-get dist-upgrade would upgrade all packages to the latest available in the distro, i.e. 12.04.3 to 12.04.410:31
user123321So, wubi is out? I should either, 1. VM, OR, 2. dual boot?10:31
sr71blackuser123321: I suggest you to make a clean install, because through an update could make some problems by the sources10:31
bekksuser123321: Use a VM. Wubi never was "in" besides for testing purposes.10:31
cfhowlettuser123321 yep.10:31
user123321cfhowlett: I did through GUI update manager :|10:32
cfhowlettuser123321 easiest thing to do:  choose the distro you want (14.04 is LTS).  download the correct ISO.  choose your install method.  clean install.10:33
sr71black: I'm agree with cfhowlett, I suggest you a clean install. Is the best option10:34
user123321Cool. Thanks.10:34
wigirccfhowlett, but before backup all important stuff10:34
wigircuser123321, but before backup all important stuff10:35
cfhowlettwigirc user123321 EXACTOMUNDO!  backup ^310:35
sr71blackyes, of course, backup is better thing to do before a clean install10:35
user123321Cool. Umm, if I don't have a DVD atm to write, how can I dual boot?10:35
sr71blackif you don't have a dvd, so, you can install through usb10:36
cfhowlettuser123321 USB?10:36
sr71blackin 12.xx, there is a USB application to make write an iso image to an usb device10:37
user123321Cool, I'll try.10:37
sr71blackI don't remember, I think it's called "USB Creator"10:37
wigircuser123321, if you use windows ultraiso makes boot-usb10:37
cfhowlett!usb|user12332110:37
ubottuuser123321: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent10:37
sometuxanyone could recommend a monitoring tool to remotly monitor 40 mixed windows/linux servers?10:37
bekkssometux: nagios or icinga.10:38
user123321Thanks everyone.10:38
sr71blackuser123321: Not at all10:38
user123321Right now I have this NTFS partition on which I have installed wubi Ubuntu, so would I be able to dual-boot install Ubuntu on that partition (by formatting to Linux partition type, ofc), without messing up my Windows?10:41
bekksuser123321: BAckup everything, install Ubuntu as dualboot.10:42
user123321bekks: backup even my Windows?10:42
bekksuser123321: Sure.10:42
sr71blackAnd then, remove the Ubuntu installed via Wubi10:42
sr71blackor so you will get two Ubuntu10:42
user123321sr71black: Oh, how can I do that?10:43
jimi_After upgrading, my gnome desktop now has this area between the bottom of my app, and the bottom bar that shows my running apps. And next to the switcher there is a number like (1) (2) etc and that shows the apps that are running that have some attention needed, but for instance xchat only flashes if i look there. how can i  fix this behavior?10:43
sr71blackWubi is like an program, you can remove it in add-remove programm of windows10:43
sr71blacklike another one in windows10:43
MonkeyDustuser123321  backup your ubuntu documents somewhere, then remove wubi in Windows 'add or remove programs'10:44
user123321MonkeyDust: Cool.10:44
user123321MonkeyDust: Oh gosh, I just realized I can't login to Ubuntu at first instance :O o.O10:45
MonkeyDustuser123321   did you have any importants docs in ubuntu?10:46
gryfiles, perhaps - not always docs10:48
MonkeyDustyes, files, rather10:48
user123321Hmm, it's alright. I can let them go away.10:48
user123321I wish WUBI installation told me "for testing purposes only" :/10:49
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MonkeyDustuser123321  the wubi project is dead, so it won't be updated anymore10:51
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user123321I'm downloading 14.04 LTS. Hoping to make a nice dual boot. Wish me luck.10:55
alumno21314_luck10:55
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MonkeyDustme luck10:56
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DJonesalumno21314_: alberr profe_valle Please stop that, this a support channel, not a chat channel10:56
profe_vallei am sorry10:56
costelacionXhello10:56
alumno41314_jaja10:56
alumno21314_sorryyyy10:56
MonkeyDust!es | profe_valle10:56
ubottuprofe_valle: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.10:56
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user123321So, thanks everyone! Hoping to login here again with freshly installed Ubuntu. see ya :)10:57
Droidz7Hey guys. I need help with something. How do I make a usb drive automount as a folder on startup?11:08
MonkeyDust!fstab | Droidz711:08
ubottuDroidz7: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions11:08
Droidz7i tried editing fstab11:09
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metamorpyHey guys, I'm having an annoying issue with 14.04. The wireless dies when screen goes to sleep, even though the machine is still on. I can see slight wireless activity, but when pinging the machine i just get 100% packet loss. Anyone else experienced similar issues?11:37
metamorpyActually it happens randomly even when the screen is still on.11:38
mantasis zen.spamhaus.org down?11:39
philinuxmetamorpy;~ hang on i'll test it11:39
MonkeyDustmantas  yes11:40
philinuxmetamorpy;~ just tested and wireless stayed on11:41
Pessimistmetamorpy: dmesg output ?11:42
philinuxmetamorpy;~ although i dont have screen lock on that may be it11:42
metamorpyit drops out when screen is on too now. so might not be related to that at all ..11:42
metamorpyi suspect it might be a realtek chip wireless. :(11:43
bekksmetamorpy: So check that then.11:43
Pessimistmetamorpy: so what's the output of dmesg?11:44
metamorpythe entire thing in the chat?11:44
Pessimistpaste it...11:44
Pessimistin a pastebin11:44
MonkeyDustmetamorpy  use a pastebin11:44
metamorpyhttp://pastebin.com/5y5DPARz11:46
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kalohrquit11:49
metamorpyIt's very strange, i can sometimes ping it into responding again, and sometimes not.11:49
Pessimistmetamorpy: rt2800usb is pretty buggy: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6278111:50
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 62781 in network-wireless "rt2800usb sluggish connection. "TX status timeout for entry" and "Got TX status for an empty queue" errors(?)" [High,New]11:50
metamorpythat explains it ^^, got any recommendations for a wireless card or brand i can buy for a linux based machine?11:52
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bekksmetamorpy: Get some Intel chipset.11:52
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metamorpyok, thanks :) i'll see what i can find11:55
metamorpyhas it gotten worse with later ubuntu versions btw? i think 13.04 or something was very stable.11:56
shunya_chakrahi can be open a file manager directly from terminal?11:58
philinuxshunya_chakra;~ type in nautilus in terminal11:58
shunya_chakracool, thanks philinux11:58
lotuspsychjemetamorpy: 14.04 is nice and improved alot, stable as 13.0411:59
philinuxshunya_chakra;~ check out man nautilus for all terminal options11:59
shunya_chakraphilinux, i like this it got lot of options... my hands get hurt when i move to mouse :P12:00
philinuxmetamorpy;~ I've got this chip on my lappy and its wifi is rock solid Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)12:01
philinuxshunya_chakra;~ glad to be of assistance12:01
shunya_chakraphilinux, thanks! a lot!!!12:02
shunya_chakra:)12:02
metamorpythanks philinux12:04
lotuspsychjemetamorpy: did you try ralink website for latest drivers?12:05
metamorpynot yet.12:05
RamiCHello, I just installed Ubuntu on my HP DV6 laptop and it is overheating12:07
lotuspsychjeRamiC: wich ubuntu version plz?12:08
RamiCDescription:Ubuntu 14.04 LTS12:09
compdocRamiC, seems to be a common problem with some laptops12:09
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metamorpythanks for the help guys! i have to run, but i'll look into getting a new driver or wireless card.12:14
RamiCI have 2 graphics card, one Intel 3rd Gen Core & one Nvidia GEforce GT 630M12:14
RamiCAnything to do with that?12:14
lotuspsychjeRamiC: yes some graphics drivers/cards can influence heating problems12:15
lotuspsychjeRamiC: maybe check your additional driver setion to see if other drivers show up?12:16
lotuspsychjeRamiC: doublecheck if your bios has powersettings maybe12:16
RamiCCan you let me know how I can go about doing that?12:18
penoshi brothers12:18
lotuspsychjeRamiC: check software sources/last tab additional drivers12:21
erimohello12:21
Krishnamurtiwhich distribution is fit to install on usb device?12:22
MonkeyDustKrishnamurti  who are you talking to?12:23
Rory!ot | Krishnamurti12:23
ubottuKrishnamurti: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:23
Krishnamurtiall of you12:23
Gallomimiaubuntu is12:23
MonkeyDustKrishnamurti  try Ubuntu, it's a nice distro and the only one supported here12:24
Krishnamurtithanks12:24
RamiClotuspsychje: My NVIDIA driver is using an alternative dirver (x.org x server)12:25
RamiCdo I change to the binary driver?12:25
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erimohello anyone12:31
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MonkeyDusterimo  hello, how can we help you?12:32
sarvsavHi everyone12:37
sarvsavi am using imagemagick tool12:37
sarvsavto convert png image to bmp12:37
sarvsavpng image size = 62kb after conversion its size increased to 25 MB12:37
sarvsavcould someone please help12:38
RamiCHello, my Ubuntu 14.04 is overheatring when I just installed it on my hp pavillion dv6. I have 2 graphic cards, Nvidia and Intel 3rd core. How should I proceed?12:38
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g105bI've installed chromium-browser as my default web browser, but when I click a link in another application, a new window of chromium-browser opens, without navigating to the page. I have to copy/paste the link into the omnibox... any ideas of how to fix this? (tried reinstalling, removing .config/Chromium)12:39
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RamiCHello, my Ubuntu 14.04 is overheatring when I just installed it on my hp pavillion dv6. I have 2 graphic cards, Nvidia and Intel 3rd core. How should I proceed?12:45
jnoob22RamiC, you're getting this with a specific OS? or just any?12:46
jnoob22if not, it's time to get a new fan.12:47
philinuxubuntu 14.04 firefox always starts on ubuntu start page instead of tabs open from last session . anyone else seeing this12:47
MonkeyDustphilinux  change it in the FF settings12:48
philinuxMonkeyDust;~ its set to windows and tabs from last time12:48
OerHeksRamiC, might have to do with installing drivers, no fan without? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics12:48
jnoob22RamiC, how did you know it was over-heating?12:49
jnoob22RamiC, which monitoring app did you use?12:49
Armag3dd0n1just updated every computer/laptop in my house to ubuntu :) yay me!12:50
philinuxMonkeyDust;~ but always goes to homepage12:50
PessimistRamiC: you should turn off the indepent (I think that's the word) graphics card when you are not using it12:51
trijntjeArmag3dd0n1: congratulations ;)12:51
RamiCI used the sensors command, it got to 88degrees so I turned it off a bit for now12:51
RamiCindepent is the nvidia or the intel one?12:51
jackbrownis there a way to set a program to auto restart when it crashes ?12:52
RamiCWhen I went to additionmal drivers, I saw that the nvidia is using the xserver driver12:52
Armag3dd0n1thank you :p12:53
Armag3dd0n1ubuntu is a lot faster as a OS on desktops and laptops IMO12:53
MonkeyDustphilinux  not sure what causes it12:53
philinuxMonkeyDust;~ have you had firefox doing this too?12:54
MonkeyDustphilinux  it says here "save & quit"12:55
icsuis TrueCrypt dead?12:56
philinuxMonkeyDust;~ not seen save and quit anywhere. when does that message pop up12:56
philinuxthis is FF 2912:57
MonkeyDustphilinux  with two tabs open, when i close FF12:57
philinuxMonkeyDust;~ just quits here no message12:58
MonkeyDustphilinux  top right: the 3 horizontal line icon > preferences > tabs13:00
foolhardyI'm attemping to mount a local drive to use for storage.13:00
foolhardy<foolhardy> mount -t ext /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb113:00
foolhardy<foolhardy> the partition type os "linux filesystem"13:00
foolhardy<foolhardy> what should I be using in place of ext?13:00
MonkeyDustfoolhardy  use a pastebin, please13:00
gtshey guys13:00
RamiCjnoob22: any idea?13:00
MonkeyDustfoolhardy  or keep your question in 1 line13:01
foolhardyhttp://pastebin.com/k4E112RB13:01
philinuxMonkeyDust;~ i've got that warning unticked so that explain why no message13:01
philinuxthats default i think13:01
jnoob22RamiC, unfortunately when it comes to video drivers causing a meltdown, i'm at a loss.13:01
RamiCOerheks: How should I proceed? Do I update the drivers?13:02
MonkeyDustphilinux  it's what you looked for?13:02
RamiCjnoob22: no problem, thanks for the help13:02
philinuxMonkeyDust;~ i'll tick it and give it a whirl13:03
theoshi all! network manager cant establish a wired connection but works fine with wireless. both are from the same router. wired connection works fine on other pc. please help!13:03
foolhardyhttp://pastebin.com/9LaDPP2C13:04
theosi am using 10.0413:04
MonkeyDusttheos  what's the output of    ifconfig         use a pastebin to show it to the channel13:05
MonkeyDustah, 10.0413:05
theosMonkeyDust, eth0 is up but no ipv4 addr13:05
theosdhclient doesnt seem to find connection either13:06
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RamiCHow do I turn off my Nvidia graphics card in Ubuntu 14.04?13:14
konadrim trying to run apt-get -y upgrade from a server via a cron job, it just prompts for confirmation, I have tried setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive but it doesn't seem to work13:16
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trndrkonadr, shouldn't it be apt-get upgrade -y  ?13:18
MonkeyDustwas thinking the same thing13:19
konadri seem to find differing accounts online trndr, lots of people seem to say the other way around, il try it anyway to see13:19
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rmooreIs it strange that I'm not seeing any performance difference between Unity and XFCE (Xubuntu)?13:22
rmooreI'm running a 5 year old first gen Intel dual core laptop with 4 gb of ram.13:22
trndrkonadr, according to man apt-get it should be -y upgrade, but upgrade -y worked for me. So the differing accounts make sense13:23
MonkeyDustrmoore  are they both fast or both slow?13:23
rmooreboth slow13:23
rmoorewell. not horribly slow13:24
rmoorejust a bit slugish. especially with the Software Center13:24
shunya_chakrahi, i got youtube-dl version of 2nd month but on there site they also release the version of 5th.13:24
shunya_chakrahow can i get htat13:24
shunya_chakrathat13:24
shunya_chakrai mean update?13:24
konadrhmm same thing happens trndr, quite odd13:25
trndrkonadr, you could try --yes, or piping yes into apt-get13:26
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pr3pHelo13:27
OerHeksshunya_chakra, the version in softwarecenter is the latest, same as the site 14.05.1913:27
Pici5/7013:31
shunya_chakraOerHeks, ok I installed it from terminal is now i need to rid out old version?13:31
OerHeksshunya_chakra, what old version? how did you install the previous one?13:33
MonkeyDustshunya_chakra  sudo apt-get autoremove13:33
konadrya i was trying the pipe just now trndr to see if that ran13:33
shunya_chakraOerHeks, MonkeyDust nv, problem solved.. i used pip13:34
shunya_chakrathanks for help! :)13:34
shunya_chakrapython is awesome it's got its on installing python packages13:34
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Armag3dd0n1any idea when ubuntu will update xbmc in the software centre?13:38
Armag3dd0n113.0 is out but it's showing 12.3 still :/13:38
smartin__Hi All, OK I just installed ubuntu 14.04, I setup a root user (yes I know but my company requires it). I can su - to the root user with the password without issue. If I ssh as the root user I get password denied even though the password is the same as when i do a su -. I have confirmed that the sshd_config is not blocking the root user and /var/log/auth.log is saying I am entering the wrong password for root. I have done this at lea13:39
smartin__and I copy\paste the password and the password I enter via ssh is the same as when I do a su - but the ssh password does not work, any ideas?13:39
trijntjeArmag3dd0n1: it won't, you'll have to wait untill the next version of ubuntu comes out13:40
Armag3dd0n1really?13:40
Armag3dd0n1wut13:40
MonkeyDustArmag3dd0n1  or use a PPA with the more recent version, but that's not supported here13:40
user123321Ok I have Windows 7. Using a partitional manager, I have formatted one partition with Ext3 and one "adjacent" area with Linux Swap. Now, should I use automatic or manual partitionaing when installing Ubuntu (dual boot)?13:41
trijntjeArmag3dd0n1: thats the point, people work very hard to make sure the 60.000 or so packages you can install work together properly, and then again for newer versions in each release. It wouldn't be stable to continuously upgrade all programs all the time13:41
MonkeyDustuser123321  manual if you know what you're doing13:42
trijntjeuser123321: delete the swap and ext3 partition, then choose 'automatic' during install13:42
user123321delete the partitions? ah.13:42
trijntjeuser123321: yes, the installer will automatically use the free space for ubuntu13:43
user123321Can I delete it using Ubuntu setup?13:43
manaar333salut tout le monde13:43
trijntjeyes, if you select 'try ubuntu without installing', and then use gparted to delete the partitions13:43
manaar333where is the french server?13:43
trijntje!fr13:43
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:43
user123321hmm, so I'll make them unallocated space then?13:44
user123321I'll use the same partition manager then?13:44
neurosnapdoes gnome not work well with ubuntu+unity 14.04 lts?13:45
smartin__anyone on my auth issue?13:45
trijntjeneurosnap: just install the gnome version of ubuntu, it should work fine13:45
neurosnaptrijntje: that seems rather counter-intuitive to a linux based system13:45
user123321see ya, gonna instal Ubuntu :D13:46
neurosnapbut is what people keep suggesting to me13:46
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user123321install*13:46
trijntjeneurosnap: I don't understand what you are saying, install the gnome version of ubuntu if you want to use gnome, what else do you want?13:47
Armag3dd0n1so basically i gotta wait? omg! oh well, I heard it's rubbish anyway :p13:47
neurosnaptrijntje: i want to try multiple desktop environments, i dont want to reinstall a linux distro every time i wanna try a new DE13:47
trijntjeneurosnap: you can install them side by side if you want, or try them out in virtualbox13:48
WLMneurosnap: do you want to use like Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Edubuntu?13:48
WLMOr other unofficial distros13:48
neurosnapWLM: i just want to try multiple DEs without reconfiguring my entire setup13:49
WLMOkay13:49
WLMThat's possible.13:49
WLMI'm doing it13:49
daftykinssmartin__: when you say you 'setup a root user' you mean you just created a password for root, correct?13:49
neurosnapWLM: the reason why im asking is because i just tried to install gnome and it didn't go so well13:49
WLMI'm currently using Xubuntu because Unity is broken, but I still have Ubuntu for when it may work agan13:49
trijntjeneurosnap: which package did you install?13:50
WLMYou can just do it from the software center. Everything worked for me13:50
smartin__yup and I ensured he was enabled as well, I have never seen anything like this and I have been using ubuntu for years.13:50
trijntjeand what version of ubuntu are you using?13:50
WLMI installed the xubuntu-desktop package on my 14.04 and now I can run both Ubuntu and Xubuntu13:50
WLMSo Unity and Xfce13:50
neurosnaptrijntje: gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop13:50
WLMWhat happened when installing that?13:50
neurosnapWLM: it worked but all the windows would create a "dragging" effect that stuck to the screen13:51
neurosnapthe only advice i got was to reinstall gnome13:51
daftykinssmartin__: well, it's a shame to see the primary intention of ubuntu's setup be broken... but given you've already checked sshd's configuration for permitting root login and naturally you know the password and have tried combinations in case it's being picky about a given one - i've no extra ideas to add13:51
trijntjein gnome? That sounds like you dont have the proper drivers for your graphics card13:51
dfcnvtIs there a webpage explaining the meaning of each version/package in ubuntu? For example: lucid, precise, raring, saucy, trusty, utopic and each prefixes -updates, -backports13:52
neurosnaptrijntje: it's possible, im running vmware13:52
smartin__daftykins: thanks it is really wierd I have never seen a password work via terminal and not work via ssh.13:52
ciampixhi. How to consult doc-base documentation? If I install git-doc for instance... it writes html files in /usr/share/doc-base but yelp do not see those files...13:52
neurosnapwmware fusion ontop of mac osx mavericks13:52
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bfilipescuwois13:53
daftykinssmartin__: and all the logs have to say is the password is wrong? :S13:54
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somsip!info lua13:54
ubottuPackage lua does not exist in trusty13:54
smartin__daftykins: the auth.log says the password is correct when I do a “su -“, when I ssh in it says the authentication faiilure for my user13:54
somsip!find liblua13:55
ubottuFound: liblua5.1-0, liblua5.1-0-dbg, liblua5.1-0-dev, liblua5.2-0, liblua5.2-0-dbg, liblua5.2-dev, liblua5.2-rrd-dev, liblua5.2-rrd0, libcsnd-dev, liblua5.1-bitop-dev (and 35 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=liblua&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all13:55
daftykinssmartin__: ridiculous... but try ssh localhost :)13:55
ikejust learned about this irc is this a good place to get help fixing technical issues13:55
daftykinsike: only if they relate to ubuntu, but yes13:55
smartin__daftykins: same issue with ssh localhost13:55
MonkeyDustike  ask your question and wait13:55
Piciike: If you have an Ubuntu question... yes.13:56
shunya_chakrabest community!!!13:56
ikei have an issue with pipelight (the software for for watching netflix in a native browser could i et help with that13:56
ciampixmmm yelp seems to have nothing to do with doc-base.. Question: how to read doc-base doc in ubuntu13:56
MonkeyDustwhat's doc-base?13:57
smartin__daftykins: http://apaste.info/fKu the log for the working su - and the failing ssh at localhost13:57
ciampixapt-cache show doc-base13:57
saleemis there any way to disable google custom search on browsers in ubuntu?13:57
ciampixit is a standard for doc in html13:57
ciampix(Debian)13:57
ciampixthere are some clients13:58
daftykinssmartin__: i see it's using IPv613:58
smartin__daftykins: would that cause this issue?13:58
daftykinssmartin__: not a clue, but something that sticks out to me is all13:58
trndrsmartin__, have you changed PermitRootLogin and removed root from DenyUsers in sshd_config?13:58
ciampixyelp (should) is (?) one13:58
daftykinssmartin__: yeah pastebin sshd_config i bet there's a value in there somewhere13:58
ciampixmaybe, I am not shure13:59
ciampixmaybe, I am not sure13:59
saleemis there any way to disable google custom search on browsers in ubuntu? can someone please give me any fix for it?13:59
smartin__daftykins: no denyuser entrie at all permitroot is yes - http://apaste.info/9pv14:00
trijntjesaleem: click on the little arrow next to the google icon to change it to something else14:01
saleemtrijntje, i tried these fixes already but dont work https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/95946314:02
trndrsmartin__, have you restarted sshd since the change in sshd_config?14:03
smartin__yup14:03
classicthaissomeone now the service of ubuntu that can shared the folder that devide by group and user?14:03
classicthaisplease recommend me.14:03
smartin__trndr: yup14:03
smartin__trndr: even confirmed a new timestamp on the service with ps14:03
classicthaisThat's service is SAMBA or Not?14:04
trndrsmartin__, in that case it might be easier to beat common sense into your boss ;)14:04
saleemtrijntje, your tip seems to be working thanks for it,hope it doesnt go back/revert to custome search later14:04
smartin__trndr: I wish, but this issue still seems like  a major flaw somewhere. Why on earth would the password work for terminal and not ssh?14:04
daftykinsclassicthais: what language do you speak? it might be better for you to find a local channel14:04
classicthaisdoes it have thai channel?14:05
MonkeyDust!thai14:05
classicthaisthat talk about ubuntu.14:05
trndrsmartin__, security, there is no reason to allow root login, so making it as hard as possible to enable makes sense14:05
classicthaisI live in Thailand.14:06
daftykins!th14:06
ubottuPlease type /join  #ubuntu-th for Ubuntu in Thailand.14:06
smartin__trndr: I have done everything to enable it and it still does not work. It is saying the password is bad in the auth.log even thought it is correct. That does not make sense14:06
daftykinsclassicthais: ^ there you go14:06
smartin__trndr: maybe a different error is needed if this is trully a case of root being disabled somewhere else as the error point to a bad password14:07
nikomxSup14:07
smartin__trndr: WOW, I have had a bash loop in the background for testing to see if the root user can login, it just did magically even though I did not change anything since it’s failed attempt….wierd!14:08
sabbutI don't know if this is the best place to ask. I recently bought a new graphics card for a fairly old computer (maybe 7 years old) with Ubuntu. Now the computer randomly freezes. I also get error messages while Ubuntu is loading, maybe something in the configuration may be the source of the problem?14:08
bekkssabbut: Which error messages?14:08
xubuntuhello friends14:08
nikomxAnyone reccomen a desktop that will run new vetsion of ubuntu for less then five hundref14:08
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bekks!ot | nikomx14:08
ubottunikomx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:08
trndrsmartin__, funky, gratz.14:08
nikomxIn store or online14:08
bekksnikomx: Both is offtopic in here.14:09
nikomxI have only a pthree dell dedktop14:09
sabbutbekks: something similar to what I see here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=58427514:09
ubottuDebian bug 584275 in cpufrequtils "cpufrequtils: ondemand CPUFreq governor not available" [Normal,Open]14:09
smartin__trndr: are there multiple authentication repos in 14.04?14:09
sabbutbekks: "cpufrequtils: ondemand CPUFreq governor not available"14:09
Guest45646get a cheap thinkcenter? (knows nothing about computers tbh)14:09
nikomxI use to run vesion seven to eleven14:09
Guest45646(i know nothing*)14:09
nikomxOn one gig ram14:10
trndrsmartin__, don't know TBH. Could it be you were blocked due to too many failed attempts?14:10
MonkeyDustnikomx  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there14:10
daftykinsnikomx: lubuntu is your only bet, but i think it's too late to be trying to use a Pentium III in this day.14:14
mjaykHaya all I can access and open files stored on my USB stick via terminal but I get in the file manager, I can see the drive but get an I/O error when I try to open the folders any idea's?14:17
mjaykubuntu 14.04 64 but14:17
mjayk*bit14:17
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ciampixsomeone know how to read doc-base standard docs in ubuntu without searching manually /usr/share/doc-base ?14:18
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classicthaisI talk in #ubutntu-th , it don't have any person.14:21
classicthaisI don't know to talk any one.14:21
sabbutclassicthais: did you spell it correctly?14:22
sabbut#ubuntu-th14:22
classicthaiscorrect.14:22
MarcNMy mediascanner-service-2.0 process is eating u p cpu time. Where are the controls for it?  In fact what uses it?14:23
daveb__Can I some how add custom options to grub that set certain variables, and I can access those variables from upstart or a loginscript or something?14:23
classicthaisa virtual software that can run or install windows os ?14:23
classicthaisVirtual box or VMware  is better?14:23
classicthaisplease recommend me?14:24
compdoc_Virtualbox14:24
MarcNclassicthais, I like VirtualBox and have used it for years.  Win7 runs fine in it and even with access to USB devices directly.14:24
classicthaisIt don't have VMware fusion that install in ubuntu?14:25
classicthaisI understand the true information.14:25
bekksclassicthais: vmware fusion is available for osx only. Just use virtualbox.14:27
classicthaisOk! I will download and install it for install windows 8.14:28
mistawrighthow can I tell distcc to use the arm gcc compiler i have installed?14:28
classicthaisSomeone  can recommend the service of ubuntu that can share the folder devide the access by group and user.14:29
philipp__Hallo leute14:29
bekksclassicthais: What does that mean?14:29
bekks!de | philipp__14:29
ubottuphilipp__: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!14:29
classicthaisSuppose that the folder name is engineer. It share for only the account that is member of engineer group.14:31
classicthaisif I am the member of engineer group , I can access and delete or edit file inside engineer folder.14:32
classicthaisMy friend is not the member of engineer group, he can access but can't delete or edit.14:32
classicthaisSomeone recommend me about the service of ubuntu that do as my need.14:33
ubuntuser13classicthais: I think you are talking about file permissions .14:34
classicthaisYesh!14:34
classicthaisI can use the ubuntu desktop for do that?14:34
ubuntuser13classicthais : you can easily do this with chmod commands14:34
deepanshuhi14:36
deepanshui am new to ubuntu i want to discuss some problems of ubuntu14:36
compdoc_procede14:36
frank__hello everybody14:38
blueingressHi all, I lost the boot mene to my win7 when after I reintall ubuntu. How Can I find it back? Thanks.14:39
deepanshuhi to  every one14:40
frank__Can someone know Linux Assembly laugage ?14:40
rob___sdaq@blueingress you need to boot into a live CD if theres no boot options and follow this guide to bring back grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair14:40
compdoc_I think Assembly langauge is more a cpu thing14:41
Bashing-omblueingress: After the (re-)install did you -> sudo update-grub <- > to pick up and chainload Windows onto grub's boot menu ?14:41
deepanshus,jas14:41
frank__but you know ,when i use gcc -S exp.c -o exp.s14:41
blueingressBashing-om, no14:41
frank__something very ODD14:42
Bashing-omblueingress: Run that and advise us of the results.14:42
frank__so i wanna learn AT&T sytax Assembly ..14:42
blueingressBashing-om, Thanks. trying14:42
bekksfrank__: Then you'd have to find some system that actually still uses AT&T ASM :)14:43
Bashing-omdeepanshu: You have a support request ?14:43
blueingressBashing-om, there is results. : Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1.14:44
frank__Actually difficut ..but ..14:44
blueingressBashing-om, should I reboot to find out?14:44
user124141Hi, is there any script or piece of software to create a pdf out of many picture files (scanned text document)? Should create small size pdfs but text should be readable14:44
Bashing-omblueingress: looks good, reboot to see the effect.14:44
bekksfrank__: Actually impossible. Whats the end goal after all that?14:45
deepanshuhow to restore the grub14:45
blueingressBashing-om, Thanks a lot, c y14:45
frank__but as you know,C even can do anything but asm really should be understand ..14:46
ubuntuser13deepanshu: restore grub is easy with   ubuntu cd.14:47
Bashing-omdeepanshu: Several ways, what makes you think your grub needs restoring ?14:47
deepanshui am just asking to increase my knowkedge14:47
frank__fork() create a process and movl $2,%ebx movl $1,%eax int $0x80 aslo can do it ...but14:48
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Bashing-omdeepanshu: Admirable, grub is a deep peocess. May I suggest that you start with this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 .14:49
Bashing-om*process14:49
nikolamHow do I do remote support to Ubuntu user?14:50
nikolamThere is a girl with a broken package I woudl like to help, by connecting to her desktop14:51
bekksnikolam: Just use ssh.14:51
deepanshunikolam :using ssh14:51
bekksnikolam: Using ssh, you and her can use "screen" so you can even show her what you are doing.14:51
nikolambekks, dee-vee you all know that is impossible for home users with public dynamic IPS ,14:51
nikolamwhere ports are not open14:52
bekksnikolam: _And you know thats nonsense, since you can create port forwardings.14:52
nikolambekks, no you can not, because she is girl and dosn't know sh* about configuring her router.14:52
nikolambesides, provider also mostly block incoming ports...14:53
trndrnikolam, you could try teamviewer14:53
bekksnikolam: Oh, I can. She cant.14:53
nikolamyup, that was the question14:53
frank__hello14:53
nikolamtrndr, don't we have ANY remote support solution that works out-of-box that works o n Ubuntu?14:53
blustarwolfdoesnt vnc have a trial version thats easy to install?14:54
bekksblustarwolf: vnc is opensource. No trial version whatsoever.14:54
bekksblustarwolf: And it is slow and insecure.14:54
compdoc_nikolam, vino comes installed, I think14:54
compdoc_but youd have to forward a port14:54
nikolamblustarwolf, vnc does not need trial, it just works there are packages, but not without open ports for ssh...14:54
nikolamvino, hmm compdoc_14:55
bekksnikolam: Which is wrong again. vnc itself uses different ports than ssh.14:55
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nikolamno, without forwarding port14:55
nikolambekks, yes, noone normal would use VNC without ssh tunnel, wouldn't you?14:55
yuserhi! we I activate the nvidia card  of my laptop in prime the desktop freezes after a while. Can somebody help me??14:55
bekksnikolam: vnc uses different ports than ssh. you can tunnel vnc through ssh, which doesnt change the fact that vnc isnt using port 22.14:55
nikolambekks, yes Know that. and I know VNC is unencrypted by default14:56
yuserbekks I have done the steps that you said me installing the nvidia devices, and stills freezes after a while14:56
nikolambekks, that also does not change we need something like TeamViewer for one-person support, installed by default14:57
nikolamWindoze have those "request for assistance" i think14:57
bekksnikolam: I dont need that at all.14:58
MarcNHas the vncviewer/vino unsupported security type ever get resolved?14:58
nikolambekks, but people that need support and are using ubuntu, need remote support14:59
Armag3dd0n1anyone have an idea why ubuntu is lagging with like xchat and firefox open?14:59
bekksnikolam: and in most cases they can use vino or ssh.15:00
nikolamArmadillos, maybe doing update in the background, that is known to kill performance temporarely. use top to see what is acive15:00
catz`i have a question, is it possible to virtualize one server with different operating systems using (KVM virtualization) and then connect all of them with VNC like 10 monitors, 10 keyboards, 10 mouses so that anyone can access it's virtual machine without a computer?15:01
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nikolambekks, in most cases, user is behind routers and firewalls, so no ssh15:01
belgianguyhi, do .deb files register themselves in the sources file?15:02
bekksnikolam: which is wrong at least in most of all european countries15:02
nikolamcatz`, yes. One might also use Virtualbox, because it has integrated RDP protocol for VMs15:02
creatureHello. I have some custom keyboard layout rules in /etc/default/keyboard, but Ubuntu/Unity isn't taking them into account. How do I fix that?15:02
nikolambekks, witch is what you can not expect from random user and is mostly right in most european countries I know of.15:03
bekksnikolam: then you dont know much countries over here.15:03
bekksnikolam: and still, personally I dont need any software like that preinstalled. In case of need, just use teamviewer et al.15:04
nikolambekks, and you don't know much what home users use15:04
Guest42387nikolam, +115:04
nikolambekks, I think it would be of much help to any new Ubuntu user seeking help remotely15:04
bekksnikolam: whatever. you have no clue about my knowledge. move on.15:04
bekkssomeone might tell him he just got plonked.15:05
nikolambekks, I am not here to argue and to argue your personal needs, moove on15:05
* Guest42387 with a masters degree it might be a little bit easier to open a port, yeah.15:05
nikolambekks, I don't understand15:06
bekksGuest42387: master degrees have nothing to do with reading the manual of your router.15:06
nikolambekks, you can not expect from ubuntu user to even have access to outer he uses...15:06
nikolamwhat if he/she uses 3G internet?15:07
Guest42387bekks, and the little girl is waiting for a practical solution in the meanwhile (we know about your knowledge, but that isn't helping the normal user, if you don't share ...)15:08
nikolaminstead of UbuntuOne, Ubuntu should have some kind of remote desktop facility to help new users15:08
zoraelCan anyone recommend a terminal mv tool that that displays transfer speeds, possibly with progress bars?15:08
bekksGuest42387: so ask that girl where the manual is - or help her, which I'm not going to do.15:08
zoraelExcepting rsync, I guess15:08
nikolamYes, problem arised when she updated from mirror , that was pre-selected during install15:09
nikolamand that is obviously not updated and she now have brokena package15:09
Guest42387bekks, as usual15:09
nikolambekks, ok, leave it to me ok15:09
bekksGuest42387: so be her hero then. and dont hilight me anymore.15:09
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MACscrif im running spamassassin as debian-spamd like so http://pastie.org/pastes/9233203/text?key=mgz1vqlao7nfmwrnssuig, should its update files be owned by debian-spamd or root?15:11
MACscrAlso, when i run commands like a lint check, should i be doing something like so? su debian-spamd -c 'spamassassin -D --lint' 2> /tmp/lint15:11
MACscrthe reason why i ask is that i dont think the user debian-spamd has access to the sa-update files that are being created15:11
MACscrsince they are owned by root15:11
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catz`ubuntu sucks on vmware /facepalm15:16
catz`it's the slowest os ever, on vmware15:16
MACscrlol, not really15:16
bekkscatz`: then your vm config is wrong.15:16
MACscryep15:16
h00kcatz`: I'm running it right now and it's as fast as native, you may have something wrong.15:17
ActionParsnipcatz`: try LXDE or XFCE as the session, rather than Gnome + Compiz15:17
catz`i have vmware 2012, running ubuntu desktop, with 3gb ram and 2 cpus at 3ghz15:17
catz`i have also installed vmware tools15:17
ikoniathat's hardware list - not config15:17
bekkscatz`: there is no "vmware 2012" at all.15:17
catz`sorry, vmware 1015:18
h00kcatz`: What about the hardware VMware Player/Workstation is on? That can certainly slow down any vm (Ubuntu or not)15:18
ActionParsnipcatz`: try the lighter sessions, it will help speed things up15:18
bekkscatz`: how many cores and how much ram does your host have? and why are you using compiz inside a vm which is known to be laggy?15:18
catz`and it's the slowest thing on earth, when i boot it takes me 10 seconds to open the terminal15:18
catz`it's vmware workstation 1015:18
ikoniait's most likley the visual pass through on the video card15:19
catz`bekks, 8gb ram, 4x3ghz, ssd15:19
ikonia(without doing any checking)15:19
catz`videocard gtx 79015:19
ikoniacatz`: yeah, but the virtual video card is not15:19
catz`so what should i use?15:20
ActionParsnipcatz`: the video card is virtualized, so you will need to tweak video settings for 3D accelleration, or easier, use a non-compoziting session15:21
ikoniaI'd suggest working through the problem, I was making a huge assumption based on common basic errors/regular lack of understanding15:21
decciI am facing this issue Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release E: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 215:23
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decciplease suggest15:23
* catz` suggests a suggestion15:23
* ikonia requests catz` focus's on his own problems rather than silly comments to others15:23
* catz` is sorry15:24
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oscar_Hi, I'm have a problem where X will randomly freeze. Can any one help me?15:24
ActionParsnipdecci: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage15:24
ActionParsniposcar_: have you tested RAM from Grub?15:24
Armag3dd0n1what could cause lagging?15:24
sunnymoliniI can't get my public share to accept connections from Win7 machines on my network.15:24
catz`cya mates15:24
sunnymoliniRunning samba4 on Ubuntu 12.04 with smb.conf as posted (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544356/)15:24
sunnymoliniconf condensed for easy reading.15:24
sunnymolinithe public share path has been chowned to nobody:users15:24
oscar_nope15:24
sunnymoliniWhen I point windows explorer in Win7 to \\servername , both the public and 'sunny' shares show up just fine.15:24
sunnymoliniand I can R&W to the Sunny share, but when I try to access the Public share, I get the error "Windows cannot access \\servername\Public You do not have permission to access \\servername\Public."15:25
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: why Samba4?15:25
unopastesunnymolini you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted15:25
Armag3dd0n1firefox, chrome, xchat, there's always a delay :(15:25
bishopstixDoes anyone know of a twitter app for ubuntu (birdie, polly, turpial, etc) that does not shutdown unexpectedly for such and such reason?15:25
katiejeankthis is help channel?15:25
ActionParsnipkatiejeank: for Ubuntu, yes15:25
oscar_ActionParsnip: Nope15:25
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: why are you using samba4 and not samba?15:25
ActionParsniposcar_: I suggest it as a starting place15:26
oscar_cool15:26
katiejeankcan anyone help me w/ mounting issuses i'm having?15:26
ActionParsnipkatiejeank: with details, maybe15:26
denkanHello, I edited my interface and put static ip and it worked good. Now when I reeboted it dosen't recognize my interface. restored the previous file but still dosen't work. any idea what I need to do?15:28
xanguabishopstix: most thitter clients have their days finished15:28
katiejeankok cool, just booting up getting info i need15:28
decciActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544703/15:28
denkanif I run ifconfig I can still see my interface15:28
bishopstix@xangua why you say so?15:28
bishopstixxangua: why you say so?15:28
decciActionParsnip: Still the error15:29
xanguabishopstix: because twitter gave it's back to third party apps long ago15:29
ActionParsnipdecci: try switching from the Indian server to the main server15:29
ikoniathe indian server has IPv6 issues15:29
ikoniathey are known15:29
kremlinhey watssap guyz.15:29
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bishopstixxangua: so better use twitter with browser you mean?15:29
Armag3dd0n1anyone have any tips to stop ubuntu 14.04 lagging?15:30
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: The package name I installed was Samba, 4 is just the current version.15:30
xanguabishopstix: you could use tweetdeck or any of the other web clients15:30
ActionParsnipArmag3dd0n1: install xfce4, log off, log in to the XFCE session, profit15:30
Guest59054Hey guyz I need an invite to join EFnet server..15:30
Armag3dd0n1what is that?15:30
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: why did you not install the 'samba' package? Why did you install 'samba4'?15:30
ikoniaGuest59054: not here you don't15:30
ActionParsnipArmag3dd0n1: its another desktop instead of Gnome15:31
denkanunder internet connections my interace are greyed out for some reason15:31
Armag3dd0n1that's why it's lagging?15:31
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: I installed with the command sudo apt-get install samba15:31
ActionParsnipArmag3dd0n1: Compiz is teh default window manager and may be causing slowness15:31
Guest59054ikonia: how do you suppose where...I just need some assisstance..15:31
decciActionParsnip: How to switch to Main server15:31
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: then you are using samba, not samba4. Or do you now have both installed?15:32
Armag3dd0n1how do I change it? I like the look of ubuntu ?(:15:32
ActionParsnipdecci: use software centre15:32
ikoniaGuest59054: 1.) efnet server is not an invite server 2.) this channel supports ubuntu not "invites to different IRC networks"15:32
decciActionParsnip: I have just commandline15:32
decciActionParsnip: No GUI..since I installed server package15:32
bishopstixxangua: tweetdeck is a chrome app but no option for firefox?15:32
ActionParsnipdecci: run:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all instances of "in."15:32
decciActionParsnip: Any idea how to shift to main server through commanlin15:32
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: Just samba I guess. I've been primarily a Windows user, so I'm used to providing version info with problem reports.15:32
Armag3dd0n1wait, how do I install unity 2d?15:33
decciActionParsnip: What shall I replace in with?15:33
Guest59054ikonia: I was just hoping someone is in here connected to the same server..15:33
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: then why did you not just right click a folder and click 'share', just like you do in Windows?15:33
ikoniaGuest59054: I'm connected to it, but I don't see how that changes anything based on the information I've just given you15:33
Guest59054ikonia: so that one can be of assisstance..15:33
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: run:   dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep samba          what is the output please?15:33
thechahow do you check your ping in ubuntu?15:34
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ActionParsnipthecha: same as in Windows15:34
decciActionParsnip: : GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 215:34
Guest59054ikonia : How bout you just give some appropriate suggestions about the same..15:34
xanguabishopstix: http://tweetdeck.twitter.com/15:34
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decciActionParsnip: I removed just in from in.archive.ubuntu.com15:34
ikoniaGuest59054: 1.) it's not an invite only server 2.) this channel supports ubuntu, not efnet15:35
Bashing-omthecha: For instance. To get a response from Google -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- .15:35
sunnymolinisamba     samba-common   samba-common-bin   samba-doc15:35
blustarwolfthecha: traceroute can give time to destination15:35
thechathank you15:35
thechathank you15:35
bishopstixxangua: yes thanks saw that15:35
decciActionParsnip: ?15:36
decciActionParsnip: Is http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release the correct one15:36
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: then you have samba installed, not samba4, samba4 is a different package15:37
ActionParsnipdecci: as far as I know, yes15:37
Guest59054ikonia: I do understand its server 2...but I did connect to this freenode for information of how to connect to it...thats all...I need'nt have to bug everybody about..15:37
decciActionParsnip: Get:92 http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release [49.6 kB] Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release E: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 215:37
ActionParsnipthecha: have you never pinged in Windows?15:37
ActionParsnipdecci: I suggest you report a bug15:37
Guest59054ikonia: But since you are connected to it....how bout you give me an invite them..15:37
ikoniaGuest59054: it's not invite only - so I don't understand why you think you need an invite, 2.) efnet has it's own support channels - use them, 3.) this hcannel supports ubuntu - not efnet irc channels15:38
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: Thanks.15:38
katiejeank"an error occured while mounting /."15:38
katiejeankthat's my prob15:38
decciActionParsnip: :(15:38
decciActionParsnip: What could be the issue15:38
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: check the access on the Public share, grant your username explicit access if needed15:38
katiejeanki did something in archive manager i think15:38
Guest59054ikonia: Kindly propose me those support sites..please15:39
ActionParsnipdecci: if you run: df -h; df -i    do you see 100% anywhere?15:39
ikoniaGuest59054: no, sorry, enough now,15:39
katiejeankcan anyone help with this?15:39
ikoniaGuest59054: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544703/15:39
ikoniaoops15:39
ikoniaGuest59054: http://www.efnet.org/15:39
ActionParsnipkatiejeank: boot to liveCD and you can fsck your partition there15:39
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ikoniaGuest59054: all info on there, please read15:39
decciActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544752/15:39
ActionParsnipdecci: ok thats good :)15:40
ActionParsnipdecci: you have free space and lots of inodes free15:40
decciActionParsnip: Yes15:40
katiejeankcan i fsck in manual recovery?15:40
Bashing-omkatiejeank: Maybe do a fisle system check abd see what results, Terminal commands -> sudo touch /forcefsck , sudo shutdown -r now <- .15:40
ActionParsnipkatiejeank: if you can unmount the partition then yes15:40
decciActionParsnip: I wonder why its giving NODATA15:40
decciActionParsnip: Error15:40
daftykinskatiejeank: boot a liveCD/USB15:40
Guest59054owk.! thanks. My apologize for the disturbia. chao.!15:41
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decciActionParsnip: Somwehere I read its becoz of proxy15:43
ActionParsnipdecci: do you use a proxy?15:43
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: sudo chown sunny:sambashare Public15:43
decciActionParsnip: Yes15:43
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: ls -l shwos that the change took15:43
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: restarted the smbd, but still cannot connect, same error in Windows15:44
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: In the conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544356/) I have guest only = yes set for that share.15:46
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: I believe that forces all connecting users to connect as the guest account.15:46
sunnymoliniWhich I have set to 'nobody'15:46
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: I'd just omit the line, then anyone can walk in15:47
sunnymoliniI already have nobody in the sambashare group, and have added it as a no-password user in samba enabled15:47
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: try both ways, one will probably fly15:47
daftykinssunnymolini: what's Windows saying and what are your logs saying?15:47
daftykinssunnymolini: you've run 'testparm' presumably?15:48
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: I've done that now, and it's working. Thanks.15:54
sunnymoliniI was worried about permission problems, but it's supposed to be public, so I've changed the create mask to  0777.15:54
sunnymolinidon't anticipate any problems now.15:54
sunnymolinidaftykins: I've actually never heard of testparm15:55
ActionParsnipsunnymolini: samba is far from great, SFTP ftw :)15:55
daftykinssunnymolini: you would had you been to samba documentation :)15:56
daftykinsyou don't get samba throughput with SFTP15:56
melodiehi15:57
melodieI would like to try to compile the Ubuntu Builder tool from sources into Trusty. It is a Gambas written program, can someone tell me how to start with this? https://launchpad.net/~f-muriana/+archive/ubuntu-builder/+packages15:57
decciActionParsnip: Yes I am behind proxy15:58
melodieI've got the sources in my directory, and trying to find out how to use the sources15:58
sunnymolinilol, burn. That's from a while ago.15:59
ikoniamelodie isn't there a binary package for it ?15:59
sunnymolinidaftykins: I spent a lot of time in the samba documentation looking through parameters.15:59
SchrodingersScatapt-get build-deps would probably help15:59
ikoniajust blindly typing that isn't wise15:59
mistawrightI have the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi installed. how would i tell distcc to use this compiler? I know how to specify a path but not sure where the path of the compiler would be16:00
sunnymoliniActionParsnip: when I wrote that, I had just come off a project where I was trying to jerryrig Samba for access from any device on the Internet and ended up with sftp.16:00
sunnymoliniI've since come to see the throughput light as Daftykins points out.16:01
melodieikonia not for Trusty and it is discontinued since march 10th :-(16:01
sunnymoliniand I only need it now for Lan access.16:01
ikoniamelodie so why was it discontinued ?16:01
decci am facing this issue Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release E: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 216:01
melodieikonia I show you:16:01
ikoniamelodie: I'd class that as important information before even considering moving forward16:01
melodieikonia https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-builder/+announcement/1250816:02
melodieikonia I am not scared about anything related to compiling, I just want to find how to try to do that with this program16:02
ikoniamelodie: ok, so it's a dead product due to changes in the distro and lack of time to maintain those changes16:02
melodieikonia this is the reason why:16:03
melodieikonia the reason why I want to make it work in trusty: http://bento-remix.phillw.net/i686/readme.txt16:03
ikoniamelodie: you're not scared of anything related to compile it - but your not sure how to even start ?16:03
melodieI would like to see if it could still build an iso as I did for Precise16:03
ikoniamelodie: this sounds like you should just accept it's dead16:03
melodieikonia I don't know if I need to use the tools used when making a package or if there is a shorter way (dh-make or else perhaps). I never compiled a gambas program so far16:04
wilee-nileedecci, I think relevant, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23424616:05
ikoniamelodie: I'd class that as a dead toolset and reading the txt file, other people have marked it as dead and are looking for "other tools"16:05
ikoniawhich seems to put that project in no-mans land16:05
savidI closed my laptop lid late last night around 3:30am. Looked at my syslog and thought this seemed odd: http://sprunge.us/FgOQ16:07
melodieikonia too bad :)16:07
savidWhy is my computer waiting 5 hours to actually go to sleep?16:07
savid(actually I closed the lid at 3:18am)16:07
melodieikonia where have you read about the other people seeking for other tools?16:07
ikoniamelodie: in the text file you linked me to16:08
Armag3dd0n1can anyone link me to ubuntu 12.04 x64bit and 32bit? NOT 12.04.4!!!16:09
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melodieikonia the readme.txt ?16:09
melodie:D16:09
Armag3dd0n1anyone?16:10
decciArmag3dd0n1: I can16:10
Armag3dd0n1?16:10
decciArmag3dd0n1: Dont forget to thank me http://iso.linuxquestions.org/ubuntu/ubuntu-12.04/#x86_6416:10
melodieikonia if this is the http://bento-remix.phillw.net/i686/readme.txt text file you are talking about, I am the author of the text. ;)16:10
Mike__Armag3dd0n1: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/16:11
ikoniamelodie: ah, I see that's why you are "looking for others"16:11
melodieikonia :D16:11
Armag3dd0n1they're all x64 m816:11
melodieikonia I would like to have a fast try at it, nothing very bad if that is not possible, but I would have liked to try it16:11
JimmyNeutronAnyone have any issues after the most recent update as of last night?  After running apt-get dist-upgrade, my system won't boot up anymore.  This is om the Gigabyte Brix Pro16:12
JimmyNeutron14.04 LTS Desktop16:12
Armag3dd0n1Not Found16:13
Armag3dd0n1The requested URL /releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso was not found on this server.16:13
Armag3dd0n1Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at uk.releases.ubuntu.com Port 8016:13
melodieikonia http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/  || in order to do the same with Trusty I will need to learn the basis and it will take a long time, I can wait or maybe find a way around in between, but recompiling ubuntu builder would have been a nice experience16:13
Armag3dd0n1well that helped :/16:13
SchrodingersScatArmag3dd0n1: should check torrent dht, see if anyone is still seeding16:13
Armag3dd0n1Mike_: is 12.04 there not .4?16:13
ikoniamelodie personally, I believe depending on a dead project is unwise and it's better to find a solution that can go forward, but that's just my personal view16:14
melodieJimmyNeutron have you tried the safe mode boot and see what you can do from there?16:14
Armag3dd0n1Not Found16:14
Armag3dd0n1The requested URL /releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent was not found on this server.16:14
Armag3dd0n1Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at uk.releases.ubuntu.com Port 8016:14
sl33k_How do I change my theme? I am on Megacity DE16:14
Armag3dd0n1for all o them16:14
melodieikonia not false, but the project died very recently, so if I could have it working perhaps I could interest someone to take on16:14
melodiewho knows?16:14
SchrodingersScatArmag3dd0n1: correct, ubuntu has moved on, you probably need to find another source, probably a good idea to double check hashes16:15
PiciArmag3dd0n1: Is there a good reason why you need 12.04 instead of 12.04.4?16:15
ikoniamelodie looking at the reasons it died "changes in the OS", I'd guess "it's dead for a solid reason", but again, from my small research and personal opinion only16:15
melodieArmag3dd0n1 for what reason do you need an outdated version?16:15
Armag3dd0n1no but 14.04 is lagging too much16:15
PiciArmag3dd0n1: 12.04.4 is 12.04 with all updates included.16:16
melodieikonia he needed to regain the time used for his personal life16:16
Armag3dd0n1so it has 2d too? 12.04.4?16:16
SchrodingersScatArmag3dd0n1: and as soon as you (i think) dist-upgrade, it will try to go to .4 anyway, afaik16:17
melodieand he didn't care about the efforts done by all the people who reported bugs in his former repos at code google he just removed it without warning. His program was about to become the best of it's kind though16:17
Mike__Armag3dd0n1: Sorry but there isn't 12.0416:17
PiciSchrodingersScat: pretty much.16:17
Mike__only 12.04.416:17
Armag3dd0n1which release should i get for 64bit and 32bit without lagging?16:17
melodieArmag3dd0n1 yes there have been16:17
someHumanHow do I enable scroll-through-tabs using mouse scroll wheel?16:18
melodieMike__ yes, there have been several in between16:18
melodieArmag3dd0n1 several 12.04.xy16:18
Armag3dd0n1i confused16:18
PiciArmag3dd0n1: whichever matches your processor.16:18
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Armag3dd0n1I have an old machine with 3gb ram and 2gb ram, I installed 14.04 but it's lagging like mad.16:19
PiciArmag3dd0n1: I don't know what melodie is saying either.16:19
melodieArmag3dd0n1 what machine do you have (proc/ram/graphics) and what programs do you use? does it lag all the time?16:19
melodiePici : 12.04.1 then newer then newer then 12.04.416:19
Armag3dd0n1dual core, 3gb ram, 160gb hdd on an old pc, 14.04 on that. 2gb ram, 60gb hdd and single core with 14.04 on that16:20
Picimelodie: What?16:20
Armag3dd0n11 is a desktop and the other is a notebook16:20
Mike__Armag3dd0n1: Try Crunchbang: http://crunchbang.org/  . It's very fast16:20
melodiePici never mind16:20
Armag3dd0n1I like ubuntu though lol16:20
Armag3dd0n1i love it infact16:20
melodieso do I16:20
Armag3dd0n112.04 has 2d unity16:21
Bashing-omMike__: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ ; 12.04.1 is down at the bottom of the list.16:21
* Pici gives up16:21
Mike__Bashing-om: You want to send this to Armag3dd0n1, right?16:22
Bashing-omMike__: Yeah, I got finger happy .16:22
Bashing-omArmag3dd0n1: ^^ : http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ .16:23
Mike__:-)16:23
Armag3dd0n1thank you, downloading now! you think it will lag as much as 14.04?16:23
PiciArmag3dd0n1: I highly suggest using a 12.04.4 install over 12.04.1.  You will save time downloading, and you will more up-to-date security fixes out of the box.16:24
forrestHas anyone noticed an attempt to pxe boot on shutdown for Trusty after the latest kernel update to 3.13.0-27?16:24
wilee-nileeArmag3dd0n1, We can't just answer that empirically, think about it.16:24
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Armag3dd0n1will 12.04.4 have 2d unity?16:25
PiciArmag3dd0n1: If 12.04 has it. Yes.16:25
Bashing-omArmag3dd0n1: Well, from what I gather, 14.04 is "generaly" smoother and faster then 12.04 was . However, a lot depends on the graphics situation.16:25
Armag3dd0n1i haz a crap gpu it says something about an addition driver or something16:25
Armag3dd0n1idk16:25
Armag3dd0n1im new to ubuntu16:25
JimmyNeutronmelodie, Yeah...rebooting back into the old kernel and it works.16:25
JimmyNeutronI need to read up on what the new kernel has and did16:26
melodieJimmyNeutron very good! what about a bug report against the new kernel?16:26
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Bashing-omArmag3dd0n1: IF, and I say IF you are running a legacy ATI graphics card .. release 12.04.1 has support (proprietary) graphics drivers .16:27
JimmyNeutronmelodie, I want to verify it more before opening a case.16:27
someHumanHello!16:28
someHumanI can't use my Chrome properly, this shows up http://imgur.com/t4O9wtw16:28
khildinsomeHuman, then follow the advice given....16:28
the_drowHi guys. I have a Samsung Series 9 with an aweful BIOS.16:29
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the_drowIt did not recognize ubuntu when installing in dual boot mode so we formatted the computer and installed ubuntu from scratch16:30
the_drowNow that bricked the computer16:30
bekksInstalling Ubuntu does not brick anything.16:31
bekksPlease describe the exact issue you are having.16:31
forrestthe)drow is the bios inaccessible?16:31
wilee-nileethe_drow, W8 from the factory originally?16:31
the_drowWell the computer is now bricked. I can't boot ubuntu16:31
the_drowwilee-nilee: Yup16:31
bekksthe_drow: "bricked" in terms of a computer means it doesnt even get to the BIOS anymore, besides not booting.16:31
forrestalso again, no one has seen issues with Trusty on the latest kernel (3.13.0-27-generic) with an attempt to pxe boot over ipv4/6 on shutdown?16:31
wilee-nileethe_drow, You aware of UEFI, and the persession boot menu?16:32
bekksthe_drow: So insert a live cd and repair your grub installation.16:32
the_drowforrest: The BIOS is accessible. GRUB isn't16:32
bekksthe_drow: So it isnt bricked at all, it just doesnt boot.16:32
forrestthen the box isn't bricked, do what bekks suggested and fix grub16:32
the_drowbekks: dropping to the grub shell now16:32
bekks!grub2 | the_drow16:32
ubottuthe_drow: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:32
bekksthe_drow: So you can even access grub.16:32
bekksthe_drow: the grub shell is part of grub.16:32
bekks!uefi | the_drow16:32
ubottuthe_drow: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:32
the_drowOk, I'm on the grub shell16:32
bakflashis mv the right tool to move a huge amount of data from one drive to another? (around 3TB, mostly files of 3-10gb, some minor files around 10-2000k)16:33
bekksbakflash: cp, rsync, nautilus, etc. - whatever you like most.16:33
bakflashbekks: well my question aims on to speed at most actually. I should had mention that16:34
user123321What's the best IDE for Ubuntu?16:34
bakflashuser123321: which programming language? this question is actually very subjective16:34
user123321C++16:34
user123321And, PHP?16:34
bekksbakflash: the speed is determined by the source and target medium, not by the application you are using.16:34
bekks!best | user12332116:35
bakflashuser123321: eclipse, kdevelop for cpp. I like jetbrains tools for PHP (I think its called phpstorm)16:35
bekks"best" relies on your personal opinion, not on facts.16:35
user123321I see.16:35
user123321How is netbeans?16:35
bekksuser123321: Take a look yourself.16:35
user123321Cool. :)16:36
khildinuser123321, if you speak no Chinese and you do speak good French, what is the 'best' foreign language?16:36
bakflashbekks: well, that it depends source/target was clear for me ;) But I've read many discussions about rsync, scp, .. when moving was to another computer... Anyway16:37
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melodiekhildin for what purpose?16:37
TeraJLhi there, i'm trying to install synapse http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/synapse-gnome-do-launcher-app-review-ubuntu but the PPA is not working on 14.04(trusty) but i saw that i can change the ppa from trusty to saucy, but my when i try to change on "software sources" the ppa the software sources crashes and don't change, is this a known bug? and how can i change it mannualy? thanks16:37
user123321hmm.16:37
khildinmelodie, right... :)16:38
ikoniaTeraJL don't install software from other versions16:38
ikoniaTeraJL: use only software designed for the version you are running16:38
user123321So I've used both Netbeans and Eclipse in Windows, might I get the same experience in Ubuntu as well?16:38
bekksuser123321: You might - or might not. Take a look yourself.16:39
TeraJLikonia: if synapse crash i don't think it would be a huge of a problem16:39
ikoniaTeraJL: it is a problem16:39
user123321bekks, Oki. :)16:39
wilee-nileeTeraJL, I use synapse fro the ubuntu repos, has always worked.16:42
wilee-nileefrom*16:42
the_drowIt's repairing the boot16:43
TeraJLwilee-nilee: but it's missing on 14.04, there is only synapse-core/testing16:43
the_drowWhat happens if I reinstall windows 8?16:43
wilee-nileeTeraJL, Not here, do you have all the repos open?16:43
bekksthe_drow: Why would you reinstall it, instead of repairing the boot environment, after reading the three articles given?16:44
bekks!dualboot | the_drow16:44
ubottuthe_drow: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot16:44
the_drowbekks: Because we erased it already in attempt to install ubuntu standalone16:44
TeraJLwilee-nilee: i think so, the problem is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/synapse-project/+bug/128883916:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1288839 in Synapse "synapse package missing in 14.04 Trusty Tahr" [Undecided,New]16:45
user123321Question. If the Ubuntu Software centre shows Netbeans 7.0.1, but Netbeans website shows 8.0. What should I get?16:45
Bashing-omthe_drow: Thhn Win8 over writes the booting code, and you (re-)install grub boot manager once more.16:45
the_drowBashing-om: good to know16:45
Bashing-omThen*16:45
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bakflashuser123321: https://netbeans.org/community/releases/80/install.html16:46
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user123321Bashing-om, If it's not in Ubuntu Shoftware Centre, what does it mean?16:46
arooni-mobilehey everyone;  i need crack some WEP keys to show my boss its not worth having as security.  i have ubuntu 14.04;  with a lenovo t420 laptop;  whta to do next?16:46
user123321Bashing-om, There's old version :|16:46
wilee-nileeTeraJL, Strange, but I install during development.16:47
bakflashlol16:47
Bashing-omuser123321: Short answer, If ya have to ask, do not do it !16:47
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user123321Oops, wrong nick, sorry.16:48
the_drowWell, there is an error: http://paste2.org/NP5I17jv16:48
wilee-nileearooni-mobile, Not a ubuntu support issue.16:48
Bashing-omuser123321: 'till you know yourself better, best always to remain under the ubrella of protection that is ubuntu's package management system. Else - no support -.16:48
the_drowboot repair can't fix my boot :(16:49
wilee-nileearooni-mobile, This channel does not show you how to crack, no matter your supposed intentions, we can't really know if true.16:49
user123321Bashing-om, Cool, thanks.16:49
the_drowThis seems to be the error: chroot /mnt/boot-sav/sda2 update-grub -y Unrecognized option `-y'16:50
Bashing-omuser123321: : )16:50
the_drowDoes anyone know what's wrong?16:52
wilee-nileethe_drow, On the bootrepair web page is a link to the developers thread, where thsy focus on this, put the bootinfo summary there.16:54
wilee-nileethey*16:54
user123321Does anyone have experience with Geany in Ubuntu?16:54
wilee-nileethe_drow, right below you not working -y is the same command run without it.16:56
wilee-nileeyour*16:56
lucidominecraft crashed on launch. installed from ppa:minecraft-installer-peeps/minecraft-installer  in ubuntu 14.04, here's the crashreport: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545161/16:56
lucidowhat's wrong I have glxgears working?16:56
the_drowwilee-nilee: Well you are right but I still can't boot16:57
wilee-nileethe_drow, yes we know take a look at the thread I suggest from the web page, these guys are the ones you want, I used to be there I know. ;)16:58
wilee-nileethe_drow, There are only a couple of people here who know the UEFI it is new and a bit more complex, so you have to adapt.16:59
bakflashlucido: why you do not use the official installer?17:00
lucidobakflash, I'll try17:00
wilee-nileelucido, ppa's are not supported and mind craft is 3rd party, technically not supported.17:01
wilee-nileeerr minecraft, Freudian slip17:02
lucidobakflash, exact samae error message when using the downloaded jar17:02
lucidowhat is this: OpenGL: ~~ERROR~~ RuntimeException: No OpenGL context found in the current thread.17:03
lucidoso minecraft is not supposed to run on ubuntu?17:04
bakflashlucido: nope, it runs flawless. but it seems you are missing opengl17:04
tgm4883lucido: I run minecraft just fine, but I didn't use that PPA17:05
bakflashlucido: what GPU do you use?17:05
rigohi17:05
rigopretty please tell me how to install an (x)ubuntu on a laptop without optical drive from usb stick. i did the following:17:06
lucidobakflash, G45 I think, here's glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545286/17:06
wilee-nileerigo, try to put all in one post17:06
ARM9what's a good IDE for general web programming (html, css, js, php, whatever), preferably not KDE reliant17:06
ActionParsnip!ide17:06
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator17:06
cipherboyHey, people's thoughts on the truecrypt?17:06
tgm4883!OT | cipherboy17:07
ubottucipherboy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:07
bakflashARM9: phpstorm / webstorm17:07
wilee-nileecipherboy, Yeah #truecrypt their channel.17:07
ARM9anjuta rings a bell17:07
cipherboyAhh apologies, wrong channel!17:07
ARM9bakflash I don't think webstorm is within my budget, is phpstorm some sort of slim version of webstorm?17:07
rigowilee-nilee: it is hard. cause i tried loads of things. however: installed from usb stick  after reboot the system is there but not booting. there is /dev/sda1 sda2 and sda3 on sda1 is only EFI directory but i dont have efi bios i guess this is the problem.17:07
bakflashARM9: nah, webstorm is mostly JS as far as I know. But phpstorm can handle JS too. Isn't there a community edition of webstorm? When not I'm sorry17:08
ARM9don't be, it's good to get suggestions17:08
wilee-nilee!bootinfo| rigo run and pastebin the script17:08
ubotturigo run and pastebin the script: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).17:08
ARM9I'll dig for a community edition17:09
rigoin the matter of fact i had a working version but i reinstalled w8.1 but i tought i go back to ubuntu. no matter if gpt or mbr if i delete all the partitions or not. every time the same result.17:09
rigoim on it brb17:09
bakflashARM9: oh wow, there is no community edition of both IDE's.. Well there was one sometime ago. I use the premium edition for a long time now. I love jetbrains tools ;)17:09
ARM9well, bakflash webstorm has a few free options, but I think you have to apply17:10
ARM9good thing I'm planning on working on an open source project :D17:10
ARM9http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/buy/buy.jsp#openSource hm, a bit stricter than I had anticipated17:10
lucidobakflash, G45 doesn't support opengl?17:11
lucidoI'm using the i915 driver17:11
bakflashlucido: Well I dont think you can play minecraft with an intel g45 express chipset17:12
lucidobakflash, shiit why not?17:12
ikonialucido: no need for bad language please17:13
lucidocould be just a lwjgl issue17:13
rigohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/754531817:13
lucidoikonia, sorry I ment to say sheat17:13
ikonialucido: please don't try to be clever, it's just a reasonable request to not use bad langauge.17:13
rigoi already altered some stuff. but i can reinstall the system once again if neccesary...17:14
creatureI'd like to bind the 'launch terminal' command to my keyboard's "Super_L" key (the Windows key). I had this on my old laptop, but when I try to bind it in the keyboard settings it just goes back to 'Disabled'. How can I do this?17:16
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Bashing-omrigo: I am not the smartest kid on the block, but, GPT patitioning = efi booting, and a EFI partition is required.17:16
tgm4883lucido: what version of opengl does that GPU support?17:18
owen1my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?17:18
rigoi am also not a linux god. but i tought if i erase everything and start allover from the beginning it should work. it is not. so is it a good starting point if i totally wipe out the hdd with dd?17:18
ikoniarigo: what's actually your issue ?17:19
rigois the mbr partition table ok or should i use gpt instead?17:19
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rigoi cant install the system or to be more specific i cna install the sys but it is not booting up.17:19
lucidotgm4883, not sure, glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545286/17:19
wilee-nileerigo, You have a gpt partition table but you are not installed with gpt, a bit hackneyed altogether.17:19
lucidotgm4883, 1.4?17:19
rigoaaand how to install with gpt?17:20
Bashing-omrigo: Chance are that all that is wrong is the boot code is not properly installed to that efi partition. I have no experience with EFI, but I can probably hunt up the tutorial to install in EFI,17:20
tgm4883lucido: give me a minute to look it up17:20
wilee-nileerigo, Use nicks every time you answer someone here. NOt sure never done it, I would use a msdos table myself and call it a day, if this is not a uefi computer.17:20
rigowilee-nilee: it is not an uefi it has the old bios. is it ok if i create the msdos partiton with gparted?17:21
ARM9what's a good place to put programs that require a lot of space that I want to symlink to /usr/bin17:22
wilee-nileerigo, Yes this will wipe the drive however.17:22
ikoniaARM9: you shouldn't need to symlink17:22
ARM9and by a lot of space I mean tons of config files and other cruft17:22
ikoniaARM9: the ubuntu packages will put them in their hardcoded package places17:22
ikoniaARM9: just allocate space correctly17:22
ARM9ikonia I do because I need to keep it in a sub directory lest I want to litter the place with config files17:23
ARM9ikonia installing eclipse manually17:23
ARM9since the version in repo is like 2 years old17:23
ikoniaARM9: if you have a manual installer - you can put it whereever you want.17:23
wilee-nileerigo, On occasion though gpt leaves remnants that need to be cleaned out so be aware if the in the install the HD does not show, if you go this route.17:23
ARM9/usr/bin with symlink it is then17:23
ikoniaARM9: /usr/bin is supposed to be just for binaries, however if you want it there, you can put it there17:24
rigowilee-nilee: i guess i already tried to do that. nevermind i do it again. i have time :) well. that can be the point. can you tell me how to clean out the remains of the gpt?17:24
wilee-nileerigo, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html  is a good way.17:25
ARM9ikonia right, so that's why I was asking for a good place to put it, how does /home/foo/bin sound17:25
ikoniaARM9: thats your home directory, you can put it anywhere you want17:25
ikoniaARM9: it's just a disk, the file systems are yours to use as you see fit17:25
rigowilee-nilee: looks fine. i give a try and come back in 30mins17:25
ActionParsnipARM9: not heard 'cruft' for a while :)17:25
wilee-nileerigo, Cool, hope to see you installed and happy. ;)17:26
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rigo:)17:26
ARM9ActionParsnip tis a nice word17:26
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, hows about bloated. ;)17:26
ARM9bloat and cruft, crud and thunder17:27
wilee-nileelol17:27
ActionParsnipARM9: When you see the white whale :)17:28
lucidotgm4883, it supports opengl2.017:29
tgm4883lucido: thanks for looking, work came up. What version of java are you using?17:30
tgm4883lucido: looks like 1.7, have you tried 1.8?17:30
lucidotgm4883, not likely that that is the problem17:31
tgm4883lucido: While I agree with you, Java SE 8 is listed as a system requirement of Minecraft17:32
lucidotgm4883, hmm, I'll try17:32
tgm4883lucido: or try an older version of minecraft17:32
ActionParsniplucido: the webupd8 ppa was updated today with newer java17:32
lucidoActionParsnip, thanks17:33
basketballmy wifi is connecting to wifi can i share my internet to my ethernet only desktop via ethernet17:33
ActionParsnipbasketball: yes17:33
basketballlike conect one end of ethernet to laptop and the other to windows desktop17:34
ActionParsnip!ics17:34
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing17:34
basketballand send the wireless internet17:34
basketballActionParsnip,  can you walk me through it17:34
ActionParsnipbasketball: what do you think that guide does?17:34
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basketballit is easier to have someone say it in channel can you please17:34
ActionParsnipbasketball: so you wnat me to copy and paste what it says in that link into the channel?17:36
ActionParsnipbasketball: are you serios?17:36
bakflashI want to move many files (almost 1tb) from one the another drive. This is getting really slow (like 0.1kb/s). My first thoughts was: wow, one of these drives seems to be broken. After many fiddling and checking I've found out when I copy from another drive to one of these drives (or copying from one of those drives to another) its pretty fast, the drives seems to be okay. Any ideas? This is getting pretty weird for me17:38
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wilee-nileebakflash you can use rsync or a gui that uses it like grsync17:42
talsamonbakflash,  try rsync17:42
basketballActionParsnip,  i am confused17:42
Guest30991hey guys, i just flushed winblows for ubuntu and everything is great, i'm just wondering is there a way i can control my webcam pan and zoom settings, thanks for your time17:43
bakflashwilee-nilee: I'm only ssh'ing into it, so I can't use a GUI ;) but you + talsamon: good idea to use rsync, I'll try this17:43
legionCan someone tel me what KALI is?17:43
ActionParsnip!info firestarter17:43
ubottuPackage firestarter does not exist in trusty17:43
ActionParsnipawww17:43
wilee-nileeGuest30991, Using deprecating modification od OS's is not tolerated here.17:44
wilee-nileeof OS's names*17:44
bekks!kali | legion17:44
ubottulegion: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)17:44
lucidotgm4883, upgraded java, same difference17:44
genii!guvcview | Guest3099117:44
geniiBah.17:45
genii!info guvcview | Guest3099117:45
ubottuGuest30991: guvcview (source: guvcview): GTK+ base UVC Viewer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.1-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 244 kB, installed size 874 kB (Only available for linux-any)17:45
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mikebuntuhey guys, i just flushed winblows for ubuntu and everything is great, i'm just wondering is there a way i can control my webcam pan and zoom settings, thanks for your time17:46
basketballActionParsnip,17:46
basketballhow do i do it17:46
ActionParsnipbasketball: all i can suggest is grab a youtube video. You do realise the system will need to be on to give web access, could get a wireless router and run it in client mode to extend to th system, or just run a cable from the main trouter17:46
kdzhow do i delete a read only file in ubuntu console17:46
wilee-nileemikebuntu, Use the correct name for windows the fandoi rhetoric is not appreciated here.17:47
wilee-nileefanboi*17:47
geniimikebuntu: Try the package guvcview17:47
mikebuntuoh i'm sorry ab out that17:47
ActionParsnipbasketball: not something ive setup, i use a hard router. lots easier and uses less power17:47
mikebuntuthanks genii17:47
wilee-nileemikebuntu, Thanks, not a huge deal, but myself that gets a free ignore. ;)17:48
bakflashwilee-nilee: talsamon: rsync --progress [..] shows that its pending from ~50mb/s to 100mb/s to some kb and I can not cancel it then.. I dunno but this is weird for me, still not sure if it could be the drive17:48
bakflashit's kind of.. frozen17:48
mikebuntusorry guys17:48
joanne2014HI17:48
kdzaww ignored, how do i delete a read only file console?17:48
rigowilee-nilee: another one. depends the installation on the installation media? i mean can it be bad, if it is formatted wrong or has bad partition table?17:49
wilee-nileebakflash, I just do this with local drives, under your circumstances I would not really know the issues.17:49
bakflashwilee-nilee: na wait, this is still local!17:50
bakflashwilee-nilee: I'm just on a server via ssh, that's all.17:50
wilee-nileerigo, Install media should be good, you can check the sum of the iso and a loaded usb or cd. You can format a usb including it's partitio table.17:50
bakflashwilee-nilee: and this 'weird behavior' is still the same with rsync. can copy from/to one of those drives pretty fast when I use a third drive as source/target17:51
wilee-nileebakflash, I just use grsync, I have about the same data as backups and two HD, I use grsync.17:51
Bashing-omkdz: What file are you wanting to delete ? normally a read only file - not in your home directory - is a system file. Not to mess around with.17:51
wilee-nileebakflash, Two HD one is a backup of the backups17:51
wilee-nileeand I'm not even OCD, lol17:52
kdzBashing-om rtorrent died and its a .lock file17:52
kdzif killed the program but the file is still there17:52
Bashing-omkdz: If one wants to change the permissions on a file, 'chmod' is the tool to use, see -> man chmod .17:53
kdzBashing-om what would the command be ?17:54
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Bashing-omkdz: If all you are going to do is delete that file, then -> sudo chmod 777 <file_name> <- will do the trick.17:55
ActionParsnipkdz: try:    sudo fuser -vki filename17:56
ActionParsnipkdz: obviously change 'filename' for the actual name17:56
kdzchmod: changing permissions of `rtorrent.lock': Read-only file system17:57
kdzchmod 777 and fuser didnt work17:57
phillyjanyone know why aticonfig command gives an error after install fglrx? I found aticonfig in a dir under fglrx but...i don't know, so confusing17:58
Bashing-omkdz: " Read-only file system" means you have a system problem, most likely the system set it's self to 'ro' to protect it's self. Run a file system check and see.18:06
cortexmanmy laptop is booting into some kind of root maintenance shell. in my home directory there are two files, README.txt and Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop. the README.txt says "THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA. [...] From the command line, run "encryptfs-mount-private". However, I do not have encryptfs-mount-private installed...18:08
Bashing-omphillyj: Maybe as sudo aticonfig --initial is depreciated, did you use -> sudo amdconfig --initial <-- ?18:09
Rick__Hello?18:13
Rick__Can someone help me with a quick question?18:14
bekksDepends on your question.18:14
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litropy!ask18:15
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:15
phillyjBashing-om: hmm, i see. I will look into that when I get home18:16
owen1my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?18:16
Rick__My terminal will allow me to type in commands but when it comes to to enter my password it freezes up and will not allow me to type. Can someone explain this?18:17
Bashing-omRick__: For security reasons, when you enter your pass word there is no response to the screen, just enter your pass word blindly and hit the enter key.18:18
mish4I am  using Ubuntu 14.04 and keep getting "waiting for printer to finish" when I try to print to the network printer. Using mac to print to the network printer works fine. Any ideas?18:19
Rick__Bashing-om: thank you.18:19
Bashing-omRick__: : D ., welcome to our world.18:20
Rick__Bashing-om: Thanks man. I've always been curious about ubuntu so. I threw together a computer and decided to get down to brass tacks and just jump feet first into it.18:21
diamondsis it possible to access one's iphone files from the shell?18:21
diamondswhere is it mounted to by default?18:21
diamondsI have a path in finder like "afc://a80339c6f0a64fd5d0184339e:3/"18:21
ikoniadiamonds: apple support - not good,18:21
diamondsI know18:21
ikoniadiamonds: it's a bit of a moving target,18:21
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ikoniaso try to find a solution you can depend on18:22
diamondsbut a moment ago I was able to pull a .sqlite file off my iphone18:22
diamondsthen had to restart X & now I can't access anything on the phone in that way18:22
ikoniadiamonds: I think that's some sort of index18:22
ikoniadiamonds: you can't access the file system directly18:22
Bashing-omRick__: That is the way you do it. use it and learn it ( if it ain't broke you have not tweaked it enough ) .18:22
ikoniaI've only seen it done sucesfully with a jail broken device and ssh18:22
kleinerdrachehi there, what is a good way to tag nef raws with xmp?18:24
yshhello is it possible to resize a live non-lvm partition ?18:26
litropydiamonds, http://techland.time.com/2013/08/27/bittorrent-sync-for-ios-iphone-to-computer-backups-with-a-catch/18:26
ikoniaysh: yes, there are risks, and normally need to use a live media system to reconfigure it, if it's a root or "in use" file system18:26
litropydiamonds, there are better resources - that was just a quick Google. But you get the idea.18:27
yshits a google compute instance... they dont have lvm on there preconfigured VM images :/18:27
katiejeankhaving issues w/ live boot usb18:28
ikoniaysh: they will be hard sized partitions18:28
yshyes 11GB18:28
Armag3dd0n1ubuntu 12.04.4 keeps saying something about swap not mounted18:28
Armag3dd0n1going back to 14.04 oh yeah :p18:28
ikoniaysh: you can't resize that as they will be locked/presented from the physical host18:28
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katiejeankcan someone help me?18:29
Rick__Hello Katie. Just toss out your question and someone will help if they can :318:29
katiejeankmy live usb isn't booting18:30
yshikonia: http://pastebin.com/yj0nMYKs18:30
yshfdisk output18:30
ikoniaysh: what does that matter ? re-read what I said18:30
ysh:(18:31
yshany workaround ?18:31
ikoniano18:31
ikoniaagain READ what I said18:31
Rick__Katie, what is it saying?18:31
yshi read that :(18:31
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katiejeankwell, my prob is "the disk drive for /tmp is not ready or not present"  Im trying to use the live usb to recover, but it flat out isn't booting, just a black screen w/ a blinking cursor18:33
Rick__Sounds like the live usb is not loading properly. Have you tried to re-install the live usb then trying the fresh installed version?18:34
katiejeanki was going to install arch linux in a partition for fun, but had issues doing that, and since then haven't been able to boot back into ubuntu, frustrating18:34
katiejeankRick__: ^and yeah, thats what i did Rick__18:35
daftykinskatiejeank: perhaps you might have used nomodeset in the past?18:36
daftykins!nomodeset18:36
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:36
katiejeankmaybe, not sure18:36
daftykinsworth a go.18:36
katiejeankdaftykins: not sure18:36
jasonswi lost my gnome panel clock and other buttons18:36
jasonswi think after an update18:37
jasonsw13.1018:37
jasonswany ideas ?18:37
jasonswkillall unity-panel-service doesn't help18:37
wilee-nileejasonsw, What exact desktop is this?18:38
wilee-nileeunity?18:39
katiejeankdaftykins:what is nomodset? u have a command i can use in recover read/write mode?18:39
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wilee-nileekatiejeank, Have you had a chance to look at the link?18:43
katiejeankwilee-nilee: looking now18:45
wilee-nileekatiejeank, Could it be you loaded the arch grub into the mbr, is arch gone?18:45
anonymoushello18:45
owen1my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?18:46
wilee-nileeowen1, in 12.04 I found I had to just run in the cli  xset -dpms ; xset s off  I was never able to get it to stop the suspend18:47
wilee-nileeautomatically18:48
asker345hello, i need help accessing the windows recovery console while ubuntu is installed.18:50
asker345F8 is not working after grub.18:51
wilee-nileeasker345, Can you be more detailed?18:51
wilee-nileeasker345, F8 would be at the bios splash to work.18:51
owen1wilee-nilee: awesome. i'll try xset -dpms ; xset s off18:52
asker345wilee-nilee, but theres grub interrupting it18:52
katiejeankwilee-nilee: yeah, about arch, i couldn't install it, something failed and just ended up at a terminal screen18:52
asker345wilee-nilee, so what can i do in this case?18:52
wilee-nileeasker345, Power on and start tapping the f8 like your were at war with an enemy.18:52
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asker345wilee-nilee, even before grub?18:53
katiejeankwilee-nilee: then after that, can't boot ubuntu18:53
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wilee-nileeasker345, Yes18:53
asker345ok, will be right back i guess ;)18:54
wilee-nileekatiejeank, Did you resize ubuntu with the arch install, and are you sure ubuntu is still there?18:54
synth_i accidentally upgraded libevent and am now getting this error when using pymongo:18:55
synth_ugh18:55
katiejeankwhen i reboot off the hdd, i get a purple screen boot options/mem tests18:55
synth_didn't paste18:55
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AK47isMyADDRESSHello :)18:55
katiejeankwilee-nilee: and when i try to boot into ubuntu from there, it says mount is not ready or missing18:56
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wilee-nilee!bootinfo | katiejeank run from a live cd and pastebin results18:56
ubottukatiejeank run from a live cd and pastebin results: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).18:56
synth_i recently upgraded libevent on accident and am now getting this error: http://sprunge.us/dcUi any idea how i could easily downgrade libevent? i've also tried upgrading gevent by doing pip install --upgrade gevent; however, i'm still getting the error.18:56
asker345wilee-nilee, didnt work like expected. i think this only work with windows mbr18:56
wilee-nileekatiejeank> when i reboot off the hdd, i get a purple screen boot options/mem tests This sounds like a live session booting.18:57
yshikonia: i resized it successfully, but i would suggest no one to do that.... because i was on no risk... there was no data on it :)18:57
wilee-nileeasker345, What kind of recovery is this, and why are you not asking in ##windows18:58
CrowX-I installed teamviewer and now I always have a teamviewer process in the background, no matter how many times I kill it18:58
ikoniaysh: I don't understand what you are saying18:58
wilee-nileeubuntu does not have this power. asker34518:58
AK47isMyADDRESSHi what are these error's? http://pastebin.com/eKpcNHTL18:58
CrowX-how do I make it only run when I actually run the program?18:58
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CrowX-this is the process /opt/teamviewer9/tv_bin/teamviewerd -f18:58
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asker345wilee-nilee, its the normal recovery console.. its because i have installed ubuntu/grub. on a normal windows install it would be work, thats why i ask here.18:59
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yshikonia: i resize that sda1, by deleting partion using fdisk and carfully creating partion with same start block and new end block and then using resize2fs18:59
ysh*carefully18:59
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ikoniaysh: that's not resizing a partition19:00
ikoniaoh I see new end block19:00
wilee-nileeasker345, You don't use grub or ubuntu to access the windows recovery in general, I have had computers that would. What is the end goal here?19:00
ysh:)19:00
ikoniaysh: I don't see how you can resize the root file system while it's in use19:00
wilee-nileeasker345, This is a last ditch approach19:01
asker345wilee-nilee, i have to manipulate windows that way. so the goal is to reach recovery console. i know that u do not need grub to do it, its causing the problem, so its quite the opposite.19:02
yshikonia: this http://pastebin.com/0KRKmDy619:03
katiejeankunrecognized mount option "x-gvfs-show" or missing value.  Root filesystem check failed.19:03
katiejeankanyone know what this means?19:03
scoofyhello.19:04
wilee-nileeasker345, your reasoning is faulty, that is accessible if working and you have not broke something before you see gru, or using a recovery disc.19:04
wilee-nileegrub*19:04
Platypus-Manso, I'm trying to install GNU/Linux on a new laptop I purchased for my uncle.. but get a rather error: http://bildr.no/image/d3NjNGlJ.jpeg19:04
mexi_d3asker345: windows 7 recovery console?19:04
wilee-nileeasker345, If you see grub, you have not hit the right keys, it's to late.19:04
Platypus-Man* rather cryptic error19:04
synth_that error is awesome19:05
asker345mexi_d3, yes19:05
scoofyany idea what can cause this? http://pastebin.com/4MThPYrt19:05
asker345wilee-nilee, even holding dont work, trust me19:05
mexi_d3asker345: It doesn;t install when you install win7. You need to get it by booting off the windows CD - or yu can install it from inside win7 (before it breaks of course)19:06
mexi_d3asker345: Your problem is it's not aware of grub19:06
katiejeankunrecognized mount option "x-gvfs-show" or missing value.  Root filesystem check failed. what is this?19:06
wilee-nileeasker345, Dude I know this stuff, somewhere something has been broken or your not using the correct prompts, or the menu you need is a different prompt, once you see grub you are to late.19:06
asker345mexi_d3, thats what i mean. i need a way to still access it. its not broken btw. i just need to access it. lets focus on that.19:07
mexi_d3asker345: Can you boot into windows?19:07
asker345asker345, yes19:07
wilee-nileeasker345, Where is your winodws recovery or install disc, that is what you need if you cannot get in.19:07
YourUsernameHello! =)19:08
mexi_d3asker345: Then boot into windows and install the recovery console. So now you can access it without needing to boot from CD.19:08
wilee-nileeasker345, Make the recovery disc in windows and use it.19:08
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Oisinlolok19:08
asker345wilee-nilee, for some reason, it gets stuck when i put in the cd ater some time. i dont know why.19:08
mexi_d3asker345: Is it an OEM recovery disk?19:09
asker345mexi_d3, no19:09
asker345mexi_d3, its actually a stick19:09
mexi_d3asker345: So a regular windows 7 cdrom? and it gets stuck booting from that CD?19:09
mexi_d3asker345: Win7 USB stick? OK that does work but how did you create it?19:10
wilee-nileeasker345, and where did you get the media to load the stick, what is it exactly?19:10
asker345mexi_d3, thats years ago. but it was a safe way, as i do things. i also installed from it successfully19:11
mexi_d3Let me get this right. You used the microsoft USB boot tool to make a bootable windows 7 flash installer?19:11
wilee-nileeasker345, Honestly this is a windows issue, use their channel ##windows this is off topic here.19:11
mexi_d3Hrm you're right it is kind of off topic but I don't want him to have to reinstall everythign :)19:12
wilee-nileemexi_d3, I have been trying to help them, I know this stuff, what we want personally is not a factor.19:12
asker345wilee-nilee, its a grub issue in my eyes, but im on #windows too19:12
wilee-nileeasker345, Your eyes are clouded with assumptions.19:13
asker345wilee-nilee, i mean the root of the problem, not the stick19:13
adamcunningtonHi, i'm trying to recode the video codec of my file to xvid but i'm getting an error - what do i need to install to support xvid? a search yielded nothing blindingly obviouz19:13
adamcunningtonobvious*19:13
mexi_d3i'll leave it to you then wilee-nilee since oyu've got more history on the problem. But if you want to know to install windows from the command line (yes it can do that), i'm here :-)19:13
ikoniaytw: again - I don't see how you can resize a mounted root file system19:14
asker345wilee-nilee, well, it would work without grub installed, since i did that dozen times before..19:14
wilee-nileeasker345, This is a pointless circular argument. Get the right tools and help at ##windows.19:15
adamcunningtonHi, i'm trying to recode the video codec of my file to xvid but i'm getting an error - what do i need to install to support xvid? a search yielded nothing blindingly obvious19:20
k1l!codecs19:21
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:21
adamcunningtonCan anyone help with this error please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546143/19:23
geniiadamcunnington: What says the result of: avconv -encoders | grep xvid    ..?19:24
adamcunningtongenii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546152/19:24
adamcunningtongenii: oh pastebinit didn't work, 1 sec19:25
adamcunningtongenii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546163/19:25
finn_hey guys19:25
Platypus-Man!??? ???19:25
finn_im new to irc19:25
Platypus-Manbah, no tips for the ??? ??? error19:26
finn_How do i create a channel? If i can?19:26
geniiadamcunnington: So you have xvid encoding installed already, it's a matter of some improper flag or option etc in your conversion command.19:26
adamcunningtongenii: that doesn't make sense though because if i swap xvid for x264 it works fine19:26
finn_#basil19:27
finn_Guys how do i join a channel/Make one?19:28
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ikoniafinn_: join #freenode and ask19:28
finn_Thanks19:28
finn_join #hi19:28
adamcunningtongenii: does this change anything? this error output is more verbose; http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546188/19:29
finn_ikonia19:29
Picifinn_: commands start with a /   so you want to type /join #freenode19:29
Picior whatever19:29
finn_i did /join hi as a test and it seemed to create one19:29
geniiadamcunnington: I would just try something like: avconv -i inputfilename -c:v mpeg4 outputname19:29
finn_and yes i know most if not all commands start with a /19:30
Fuchsfinn_: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/19:30
Fuchshth.19:30
Fuchsall.19:30
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Fuchsalso http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml19:30
finn_guys19:30
finn_Just type /join (Your channel name) and i think it creates one.19:30
ikoniafinn_: if you need help using freenode, read the links Fuchs gave you or join #freenode and ask for help19:31
finn_I dont need help.19:31
adamcunningtongenii: does that doa nything to the audio codec?19:31
Rosbuntuim using voyager distro of ubuntu and my weather app is not working19:32
Rosbuntuhow do i fix that19:32
Picifinn_: okay. Just keep in mind that #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support :)19:32
finn_I was saying doing /join (Your channel name) seemed to create one19:32
adamcunningtongenii: i need to recode the audio codec to mp3 and then the video to mp4 and then save the container as mp419:32
ikoniaRosbuntu voyager distro of ubuntu - there is no ubuntu version called "voyager"19:32
Rosbuntuikonia its french i guess.. im using.. can u google19:32
k1lRosbuntu: please see the voyager support. we dont know what they changed in there19:32
geniiadamcunnington: If you need to recode the audio also, I'd check the avconv manpage for syntax19:32
Rosbuntuk1l do they have official support room19:33
Rosbuntuor u know something..19:33
Rosbuntuwhere i can ask for19:33
adamcunningtongenii: anyidea what the package is called? can't install avconv19:33
adamcunningtonoh it's built int, my bad19:34
k1lRosbuntu: i dont speak french. see their website19:34
Rosbuntuokkey19:34
geniiadamcunnington: It's the default one for Ubuntu now, they moved away from ffmpeg19:34
Rosbuntuk1l thank you very much, u know a lot and u r a gret helper, god bless u19:34
geniiadamcunnington: I think the syntax is like -acodec <codecname>19:35
adamcunningtongenii: ah ok, yea think you can use -c:a too19:35
geniiadamcunnington: And you can find the available codecs with the -encoders or -decoders19:37
iamtehkingi am teh king19:37
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alnassafiHi all19:43
MACscrif spamd is running as debian-spamd, does that mean that the /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/ should be owned by debian-spamd as well? seems like it only has issues reading some of them, which doesnt make much sense since they are all owned by root19:44
saucei need to install an SSL cert in either /usr/share/ca-certificates OR /usr/local/share/ca-certificates.  whats the difference between /usr and /usr/local?19:45
sauceyes i know i could put it at /root/whateverwhocares but i am trying to stick to sensible best practices19:46
mexi_d3sauce: /local is stuff youve installed on your machine19:48
mexi_d3sauce: as opposed to stuff the distro bundled19:48
sauceyes i agree with yiou. i guess neither is the right location for this file19:48
saucethis is more of an ubuntu-server question, but where would you put an SSL cert that you need to store?  specifically for connecting to MySQL databases19:49
saucei.e. mysql -h myinstance.c9akciq32.rds-us-east-1.amazonaws.com --ssl_ca=/SOMEWHERE/rds-ssl-ca-cert.pem19:49
n88sauce: /etc/ssl/19:50
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sauceso /etc/ssl/rds-ssl-ca-cert.pem makes sense?19:50
n88yep19:51
aster-x:P19:52
fghfghfghfrghfts3.wesgg.com ddos19:56
bekksfghfghfghfrghf: Wrong channel.19:56
aster-xplease, can i have a cloack for my ip?19:56
fghfghfghfrghfwrong u19:56
fghfghfghfrghfu can suck19:57
bekks!ops | fghfghfghfrghf19:57
ubottufghfghfghfrghf: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!19:57
bekksthanks :)19:57
aster-x:P19:57
bekksaster-x: You have to ask for a cloak in #freenode19:57
k1laster-x: for freenode cloaks ask in #freenode19:57
Fuchsand before you ask:19:58
Fuchslog in to your account19:58
aster-xbekks, now20:00
bekksaster-x: Now ask in #freenode :)20:00
aster-xbekks, ok thanks20:00
aster-xk1l, ok20:01
LaomakHi guys... I try to connect my Firefox with my owncloud... With version 28 on Windows 8 it was working but now with Ubuntu 14.04 the option the set my own server is gone... How can I get it working again?20:01
FuchsLaomak: that is due to firefox switching to a new sync service with version 2920:02
FuchsLaomak: see http://docs.services.mozilla.com/howtos/run-sync-1.5.html,  I think the owncloud plugin wasn't updated yet, so you can't use that any more20:03
Laomak-.- But I don't trust a cloud which isn't an ownCloud#20:03
Laomak-.- But I don't trust a cloud which isn't an ownCloud20:03
FuchsLaomak: well, there is an older version of firefox that gets long term support20:03
Fuchsyou could switch to that, I guess20:03
LaomakOkay... I will up for it... Thx20:04
saucen88 thanks20:09
TheSadITGuyHey everyone.20:10
TheSadITGuyHows it going?20:10
TheSadITGuyHad a quick question...  I am getting the following in my syslog like crazy...  its an app i wrote. I just need to clarify that this is infact declaring the process dead?20:11
TheSadITGuyMay 29 19:56:40 eventp01 kernel: [2435358.195829] init: relay-rails main process (3109) terminated with status 1 May 29 19:56:40 eventp01 kernel: [2435358.195901] init: relay-rails main process ended, respawning20:11
TheSadITGuyAnd then upstart is bringing it back up?20:11
trismTheSadITGuy: yes20:15
trismTheSadITGuy: if your app logs errors to stdout/err you might check /var/log/upstart/relay-rails.log to see what happened20:18
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poeticrpmI am going to install ubuntu to an external harddrive. My system is UEFI. Do I have to worry about the installer overwriting something in my firmware and thus locking me out of my internal SSD drive? Im going to remove the ssd drive to make sure nothing is changed on disk20:25
poeticrpmsince Ive heard the buntu installer will do that20:26
poeticrpmI have tried in vein for over a day to get my external to boot, but my bios doesnt seem to recognize the UEFI partition I have on the external drive. Im using the installer as a last resort20:27
elichai2hey20:28
elichai2need help with this guide:20:28
elichai2https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions20:28
elichai2on the subject: "Detailed resizing ~ Enlarging an encrypted partition"20:28
elichai2step 3. what i need to do?20:28
adamcunningtoni've just created a file without including the dirname in the path - where would it be?20:30
poeticrpmadamcunnington, what do you mean? In the terminal?20:30
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poeticrpmpaste the relevant terminal line here (just the first one)20:30
elichai2please? anyone?20:31
poeticrpmmost likely /home/user/fileyoumade.txt20:31
poeticrpmelichai2, I would help, but I no 0 about anything to do with encryption sorry20:31
poeticrpmi did look :|20:31
adamcunningtonpoeticrpm: yea20:32
adamcunningtonpoeticrpm: what location would it have been created it20:32
poeticrpmadamcunnington, whatever the location the terminal is set at. By default, if you open it as a user (and not as root), anything created will be in your home folder.20:32
adamcunningtonpoeticrpm: that's what i thought but they're not in the home folder :|20:33
poeticrpmadamcunnington, if its not there, please paste the line where you created that file20:33
adamcunningtonpetris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546545/20:34
poeticrpmadamcunnington, the main thing I was looking for was the first part, eg [poeticrpm@codething ~]$mencoder etc etc...20:36
elichai2need help :(20:36
poeticrpmi was just making sure you were actually in home20:36
elichai2"3. Use fdisk as above to delete and then re-create a larger crypt partition."20:36
elichai2what does it means?20:36
Burritoelichai2, maybe see the section "Enlarge an encrypted partition" right above that.20:37
elichai2Burrito: i saw but i didn't understood step320:37
elichai2can u plz explain it for me?20:37
adamcunningtonpoeticrpm: ah20:38
adamcunningtonpoeticrpm: thanks, found them!20:38
BurritoIt says "as above", so it is explained "above".20:38
poeticrpmadamcunnington, idk man. You can try looking in the same directory you made the file from (the /media/* one)20:38
Burritoelichai2, * It says "as above", so it is explained "above".20:38
user1567hello guys, i have been using linux for over 3 years and i am not sure if i get this joke right20:38
poeticrpmadamcunnington, cool20:38
xpistosHey all. Is there a way that I can move all files in nested folders to the parent folder? Just the files not the folders.20:38
user1567xD20:38
user1567http://i.imgur.com/ggmgl.jpg20:38
Burritoelichai2, I will try and find a better guide, I need to go20:38
elichai2Burrito: this is the as above: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda620:38
elichai2it's not the problem20:39
elichai2the problem is about deleting and re-creating20:39
elichai2delete what?20:39
Burritoelichai2,  nah, way above that.20:39
elichai2my own encrypted partition?20:39
Burritoone sec, *trying to find a better guide*20:39
BurritoI have to go.20:39
piccauser1567, don't get it ;)20:40
xpistosI found this but it copies instead of moving - find ~/Downloads/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -print0 | xargs -0 mv -t ~/Videos here, `-maxdepth` option specifies how deep find should try,20:40
elichai2byohhh i think i relaized, but better guide is better :)20:40
elichai2(but i need a safe one, ok? i don't want to backup)20:40
xpistosor this is it rather -- find ~/Downloads/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 mv -t ~/Videos20:40
user1567picca, i know there is missing text before : but still is there something else20:41
alumno__hola20:42
alumno__como estan20:42
Burritoelichai2, sorry, I expected to find a better one on ArchWiki (since I've often found better guides there), but couldn't find one...20:42
Pici!es | alumno__20:42
ubottualumno__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:42
alumno__haaa20:43
alumno__thanks20:43
sauceubottu jajajaja20:43
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elichai2ok.... so maybe i'll just need to backup :(20:45
elichai2any way to backup a whole distro?20:45
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elichai2Burrito: what do you say about: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=redo20:46
vilambitelichai2: dd if=/dev/yourdisk of=distro.iso ?20:46
elichai2?20:46
wolselichai2: clonezilla20:46
OerHeks!backup20:46
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning20:46
OerHeks!cloning20:46
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate20:46
elichai2vilambit: noooo i need something i can later burn or restore with a resotring program20:47
elichai2wols: clonezilla can restore too?20:47
vilambitelichai2: dd works fine for that no?20:47
OerHeksyou can make a list of packages, saves tons of mb's20:47
wolselichai2: a backup program that cannot restore is a bit useless...20:48
elichai2wols: if later i'll run dd if=distro.iso of=/dev/yourdisk. it will restore everything?20:49
elichai2even if it's encrypted?20:49
elichai2it will restore it with the encryption?20:50
wolselichai2: no20:50
wolsusing dd for a backup is possible but a very bad idea20:50
ianorlinit would still be encrypted20:50
Armag3dd0n24back like a house on fire, love ubuntu!20:51
synth_back like a house on fire?20:51
elichai2wols: so?20:51
wolselichai2: how big is the amount of data you want to back up?20:52
elichai2wols: lol u said to use dd for a backup :P20:52
elichai2~75GB20:52
wolselichai2: no I did not. please read more carefully20:52
Platypus-Mancan I do the install via command-line to see where it fails?20:52
elichai2ohh sorry vilambit said it20:52
abdelmalekHi21:03
khaxHI21:04
abdelmalekkhax: i use linuxmint, and i want to know how to configure the internet with flashdisk21:05
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rcsheetsIs there a hardware certification program for 14.04? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ only mentions 12.04.21:07
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erle-launchpad does not file libav bugs21:08
erle-but there is a bug in ubuntu that does not exist in upstream21:08
erle-avconv encoded webms do not play in firefox21:08
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cortexmani'm trying to upgrade from saucy to trusty but it says "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade". i think this laptop was in fact upgraded to saucy when it was still in pre-release21:10
cortexmanhow do I fix it..?21:10
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cortexmananyone here?21:11
cortexmanor 1832 unattended irc clients?21:11
k1l!patience21:12
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/21:12
cortexman gee that was helpful21:12
cortexmani wish i had a bot to follow me around life like that21:12
cortexmankoanbot21:12
cortexmanit would give irrelevant, unhelpful, contradictory advice endlessly21:13
cortexmanwinning21:13
k1la possible cause for your errors are PPAs. remove the 3rd party packages21:13
cortexmanahh i did remove all that stuff21:13
synth_cortexman we have the technology21:13
cortexmanlol21:13
k1lcortexman: stop ranting in here. this is an volunteers support channel. no need to for that21:13
cortexmanis ranting about rants a meta-rant and therefore a rant?21:14
cortexmanseems like i do have some weird stuff in sources.list.d though21:14
k1l!ppa-purge | cortexman21:15
ubottucortexman: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html21:15
bish0p_My Skype on Ubuntu 12.04 isn't recognizing my webcam. Other web applications such as TinyChat can use it, so I know it's not a hardware problem. Is this a skype problem?21:15
Stormer97_znchey, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 on an acer c710, and while attempting to change touchpad settings, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/gYWm5duf21:18
Stormer97_zncnever mind, issue was caused because I set fingerhigh before fingerlow21:20
cortexmanhow do you know the ppa url for a ppa in sources.list.d/21:20
MagicSpudhello I cant get this working: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272475/how-to-eliminate-or-disable-the-gnome3-top-panel21:21
MagicSpudthe gconf-editor I installed does not seem to have such option21:22
cortexmanyeah i think this is the reason i can't upgrade: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/brianmingus/c313242b669c66d683dc/raw/afd1064bb334222301b17b2e61c8e7f29e11a1b9/gistfile1.txt21:28
cortexman> 700 packages that are no longer available in any of my active repos, including kubuntu-desktop...21:29
xyprotoHi. I'm trying to make a simple SDL2/C++ program compile on Ubuntu (Travis CI). Could someone please test if they get the same result as the testing output? I currently don't have access to an Ubuntu installation, only Arch Linux: https://travis-ci.org/xyproto/sdl2test/builds/26336976 Thanks21:29
syeekickmsg nickservid21:30
syeekicksheet21:30
syeekickis it unsafe to install the dkms dependicies?21:30
xyprotoWhat does pkg-config sdl2 --libs --cflags output on Ubuntu, after having installed sdl2?21:30
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Platypus-Manregarding my "??? ???" error, turns out my laptop was setup with RAID0.. deleted the array via BIOS, changed a setting (boot method? don't remember...) from RAID to AHCI, trying to install again now.. fingers crossed21:32
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methowhats the best channel for ubuntu server stuff?21:38
Ben64#ubuntu-server21:38
methoBen64: thank you21:38
xyprotoAnd for development-questions related to Ubuntu? :)21:39
emacerI'm trying to package up some cross compilers, each into a separate deb package, and some related tools/example code/etc into another deb package.  I want the tools/etc. to depend on ANY ONE OR MORE of the cross compiler packages, so that it can be installed so long as at least one of the cross compiler packages is installed.  Does anyone know how I can structure my packages to meet this need?21:39
syeekickis installing dkms a dangeours move/21:39
xyprotosyeekick: no, works great when I've tried it. Don't consider it a dangerous move at all.21:39
xyprotosyeekick: created by Dell, if I remember correctly. It is in their interest to make drivers work as they should.21:40
hucasys#jack21:41
xyprotoemacer: it's been a while since I've packaged a deb package, but is there not a way for several packages to "provide" the same package, so that only the provided package can be depended on by the package in question?21:42
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emacerxyproto, that's a good idea.  I'm new to creating deb packages, but I remember seeing something about 'provides' before.  I'll look into that.  Thanks!21:44
xyprotoemacer: best of luck :)21:44
ResupineEarthhello21:45
methoResupineEarth: hi21:45
ResupineEarthhi metho21:45
ResupineEarthis there someone can help me to tell me how to merge multiple bin files into an iso21:46
methoResupineEarth: try this http://www.kbrandt.com/2007/07/batch-convert-multiple-bincue-files-to.html21:48
ResupineEarththanks metho i will take a look21:48
ResupineEarthmany thanks metho i will give that a go21:50
methoResupineEarth: let me know if it doesnt work21:51
ResupineEarththanks metho ill try it now21:51
GursimerSinghHello World21:52
GursimerSinghI am in need of asstiance regarding a small python-problem, anyone can assist me?21:52
GursimerSinghclass calculator:  def addition(x,y): add = x + y print(add)  def subtraction(x,y): sub = x - y print(sub)  def multiple(x,y): mult = x * y print(mult)  def divs(x,y): divi = x / y print(divi)  calculator.addition(3,5)21:53
GursimerSinghscript ain't workin21:53
whitebytei have ubuntu 14.04 gnome. how make terminal transparent21:53
GursimerSinghLOL21:54
GursimerSinghTerminal > Profiloe21:54
GursimerSingh> Profile Settings21:54
GursimerSinghBackground Transparent > %21:54
xyprotoGursimerSingh: no need for a class when the functions are independent. Also, you probably want to "return" instead of "add ="21:54
methoResupineEarth: if those commands dont work than try the bchunk21:54
dfcnvtGursimerSingh: You'll need to join in #python for help21:54
GursimerSinghI am learning to class.21:54
xyprotoGursimerSingh: Also offtopic. And google and stackoverflow are your friends.21:54
GursimerSingh"No-need" but it works21:54
methoResupineEarth: bchunk seems pretty straight farword21:55
GursimerSinghI googled21:55
whitebyteGursimerSingh: that doesnot work21:55
GursimerSinghand stackoverfloed21:55
GursimerSinghaint working21:55
GursimerSinghI saw YouTube tutorial21:55
GursimerSinghIt worked21:55
dfcnvtGursimerSingh: Also, you may need to use bpaste.net whenever you paste it in.21:55
wilee-nilee!enter |GursimerSingh,21:55
GursimerSinghI copied perfectly21:55
GursimerSinghhttp://bpaste.net/show/3OPNSOkegG8MrDYWlpFp/21:55
GursimerSinghThank you dear.21:55
xyprotoGursimerSingh: cal = calculator(); cal.addition(3,5) should work21:56
wilee-nileeGursimerSingh, Try to not use the enter key so much, more in each single post please. ;)21:56
xyprotoGursimerSingh: no class is needed, though, just use regular functions. And what the other people said.21:56
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jcstarkenwhy would my videos playing firefox seem blurry in 14.04 but not 12.0421:57
mjaykdrivers codecs ?21:57
mjaykmany reasons21:57
Guest98257hi21:58
Ademanis there a comprehensive list of language codes (ie en_US ja_JP.utf8 etc) somewhere?21:58
GursimerSinghcal = calculator() aint working dawg. I also thought it should work,21:58
jcstarkenmjayk: ok I am running same open source drivers have not changed them and it is amazon video, is the open source drivers different in 14.04 than 12.0421:59
Jordan_UAdeman: What is your end goal?21:59
xyprotoAdeman: /etc/locale.gen here, not sure if it's the same location on Ubuntu21:59
mjaykjcstarken: yes they are different you are using a different kernel correct?22:00
AdemanJordan_U: determine the maximum length of these codes22:00
bitbltanyone work with preseeds? I'm passing ks=http://etc/mypreseed as a kernel opt, but it's not following it for some reason22:00
__raven14.04 random network problems. no dns, no route, no connection at all with wired and wireless network. dhclient not possible. whats going on there??22:00
jcstarkenmjayk: did not think about that thank you22:00
k1lGursimerSingh: maybe its better to ask in a python channel? see !alis   to find channels22:00
Jordan_UAdeman: What is your end goal?22:00
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GursimerSinghPlease, just answer.22:01
en1gmai have a computer that the video card does not work on it i justin stalled ubuntu 1404 from a ubs install onto a usb hard drive i selected login with user and pass (did it all from this laptop) i then shut off laptop and hooked it up to the computer withbad vcard and i powered on22:01
xyprotoGursimerSingh: learn how to ask questions in a way that gives good answers. "it's not working" is not much to go by22:02
en1gma(from here on out im blind) i poweed on and i dont know if i just type my user : pass and hit enter but i did that after a few mins22:02
AdemanJordan_U: I can assure you this is not an X-Y, like I said, I want to find the maximum length. So that I can appropriately size a database field22:02
en1gmai dont know if im at desktop. is there anyway i can ssh into it22:02
mexi_d3GursimerSingh: 1) you mighg have forgotten to create an instance of the calculator class; 2) you should be in #python22:02
bitblten1gma, ctrl-alt-backspace22:02
GursimerSinghI am banned in #Python22:02
AdemanGursimerSingh: are you registered with nickserv?22:03
bitbltoh my22:03
FuchsGursimerSingh: no you aren't, but you need an account22:03
FuchsGursimerSingh: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup or /msg nickserv help register  for the short version. Make sure to use a valid e-mail address and check for a confirmation e-mail after you registered.22:03
GursimerSinghOh22:03
en1gmayea but how can i do it if im not sure im at desktop and from i ssh into it from my laptop isnt there a request i have to give it on the desktop?22:03
GursimerSinghCan I get Linux Mint assistance in this IRC too?22:03
FuchsGursimerSingh: no, they are on a different network22:03
GursimerSinghk22:03
GursimerSinghtyvm22:03
Fuchsyou're welcome22:04
Alex365hi!22:04
en1gmais there a way i can hook back up the hard drive to this laptop and preauthorize ssh so when i plug it back into desktop with no vcard it will be simple for me to ssh into it from the laptop?22:04
dfcnvtGursimerSingh: simply type /msg nickserv help register22:04
Jordan_UAdeman: /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED contains a pretty supported list, but I'm not aware of any limit on short code lengths so you may still be hit by a longer locale name in the future.22:04
Jordan_UAdeman: s/supported/comprehensive/22:05
diego__hi22:05
diego__anyone know why i m getting 1000fps at glxgears22:05
diego__at ubuntu 14.0422:06
Ademandiego__: because it's not a benchmark22:06
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mjaykwhat Ademan said22:06
diego__recently installed amd drivers from amdwebsite22:06
diego__the lastest beta22:06
diego__and when i runned that last year at manjaron22:06
diego__manjaro22:06
diego__got 6000fps22:06
diego__i got two video cards22:06
diego__6520g + 6470m22:06
mjaykso you had different drivers, a different kernel and a different os ? diego__22:06
trndrdiego__, enter is not a replacement for ,22:07
mjaykcould be any of the above22:07
diego__i had ubuntu 14.0422:07
diego__3.13?22:07
en1gmai need a newer modern distro that dont even have to boot to X (it just needs to let all ssh in by default so i can troubleshoot from the laptop looking at the desktop hardware through ssh22:07
mjaykso you didnt get 6000 fps on manjaro that was on 14.04 last year ?22:07
__raven14.04 random network problems. no dns, no route, no connection at all with wired and wireless network. dhclient not possible. whats going on there??22:07
diego__i get 6000fps on manjaro22:07
diego__last year22:08
mjaykand ?22:08
AdemanJordan_U: thanks, I don't expect to care about super obscure locales anyways, but I'll pad out the field just to be safe22:08
diego__and now ubuntu 14.04 fps22:08
wilee-nileeen1gma, 14.04 is the latest release, nothing newer.22:08
diego__and just detect 6520g22:08
mjaykyou change os, drivers and kernel and ask why the fps changes?22:08
diego__if i change22:08
diego__for a newer release22:08
Jordan_UAdeman: You're welcome.22:08
diego__why this is worst22:08
mjayk because its different22:08
en1gmayea i mean like ubuntu 14.04 but it dont have to have X i just need a shell so i can ssh into the blind box so i dont have to answer any questions cause i cant see it22:08
k1ldiego__: its not a benchmark22:09
diego__yeah22:09
diego__but amdcc22:09
diego__is not detecting two videocards22:09
diego__just detect 6520g22:09
mjaykdiego__: try google22:09
diego__and not the 6470m22:09
k1l!enter | diego__22:09
diego__thats what i did22:09
daftykinsdiego__: stop pressing enter so much please, type on full lines22:09
en1gmassh enabled distro that will boot to CLI even. just needs to not have any user interaction22:09
wilee-nileeen1gma, Use nicks here, we don't suggest distro's beyond the ubuntu group, try ##Linux for that if you're registered with #freenode22:10
mexi_d3en1gma: Ubuntu 14.04 server installs without a GUI22:10
diego__13.04 showed me two videocards i remember but now 14.4 show me just 122:10
Ademanis there still a "core" installer?22:10
en1gmamexi_d3, ewww that sounds interesting22:10
Jordan_U!minimal | Ademan22:10
ubottuAdeman: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD22:10
wilee-nileeen1gma, look at the minimal bot info above as well.22:11
sr71blackThere is also the Ubuntu Core22:11
diego__nobody know how can i get work both cards?22:11
en1gmahopefully someone might know if there is no user interaction once i install it from the laptop and move that usb hard drive to the desktop with no video output and turn it on22:11
en1gmaafter i power on i wont be able to do anything22:12
wilee-nileediego__, Have some patience do not spam the channel with info and when addressing others preface with their nick22:12
en1gmafrom a keyboard connted to that blind box. it will all have to be done over lan with this laptop connecting to it22:12
Ademandiego__: can you use 'lspci' from the command line, and paste the results here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and send us a link?22:13
diego__there it is http://pastebin.com/qKwtDRjN22:14
Ademandiego__: also try running "aticonfig --list-adapters" to see if it sees two (I sort of doubt it)22:14
diego__http://pastebin.com/LqFy2yCb22:15
Ademandiego__: hey so that's promising, it does recognize both22:15
Ademanbut you said catalyst didn't show both?22:16
diego__but from amd catalyst control at info hardware it show me just 6520g22:16
skinuxWhat is the name of the creator/editor app for making .desktop files for software downloaded+installed as tarballs (or otherwise compressed files excluding deb packages)?22:16
diego__a and when i played dota2 on manjaro y got better fps with medium graphics and with this ubuntu y played at low and 5-9 fps...22:18
Ademanso do you want to try to crossfire them, or just prefer the other card?22:20
Ademanactually can you paste the output of glxinfo also?22:20
wilee-nileeskinux, The command line, not sure there is app that does all that.22:21
wilee-nileeshort of some compiler if I understand you22:21
diego__glxinfo http://pastebin.com/d5U09FHA22:21
diego__fglrx also show me just 6520g22:22
trndrskinux, you might want to read this http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/22:22
kypor__homeHey can anyone help regarding ATI driver and black screen after reboot?22:24
Ademandiego__: hrm well you can do a few things with aticonfig. you *might* try sudo aticonfig --adapter=all --initial BUT***** go to #ati first and ask them, if it generates bad config you'll be pretty hosed until you fix it22:25
diego__#ati here at freenode?22:25
Ademankypor__home: we were just discussing some other ATI issues, there's #ati if you're interested22:25
Ademandiego__: yep22:26
Bashing-omkypor__home: Try the boot parameter 'nomodeset; : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 .22:26
kypor__homeThanks. This has been an issue as long as I can remember which keeps me on windows. Ya tried nomodeset, doesn't work22:26
kypor__homeSeems like x isn't displaying. Broken after ATI install22:28
diego__kypor how u installed ur driver22:28
Bashing-omkypor__home: What is the graphics card ? are we talking hybrid graphics here ?22:29
diego__ati/ati22:29
diego__intel/ati or just ati22:29
skinux.desktop files should be saved in /usr/share/app-install/ and /home/$user/Desktop, right?22:31
bpromptskinux:  yes22:33
kypor__homeHow do I know if its hybrid?22:33
diego__how many videocards  u know22:34
kypor__homeInstalled from ATI creating packages. Installed with dpkg22:34
diego__u have sorry22:34
diego__make a lspci and paste it at pastebin.com22:34
kypor__homeIt is a laptop with ATI HD 5730 and Intel i722:35
diego__intel/ati22:35
Bashing-omkypor__home: At the present time, to find out we would have to ask the system. Can you boot a liveDVD to the desk top ?22:35
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kypor__homeI can boot to recovery. I'm ok at root22:35
skinuxI see in a tutorial to place them at /$home/.local/applications/, but my system doesn't even have that.22:35
diego__i7 with gpu? intel integrated graphics22:36
diego__?22:36
kypor__homeNot that I'm aware of22:36
kypor__homeLspci VGA gives ATI card22:36
mexi_d3skinux: Is that .desktop files? You can create that folder if you need to.22:37
diego__make the lspci and paste that in pastebin.com22:37
arfentQuick question: you know when you enable ufw, and its default is all incoming connections are disabled, and all outgoing connections are enabled? If so, why is my browser still working fine, shouldn't port 80 incoming be enabled for it to work?22:37
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bpromptskinux:    yes, you can also place them at ~/.local/share/applications22:38
mexi_d3skinux: It should be ~/.local/share/applications22:38
mexi_d3Sorry for double post.22:38
kypor__homeSorry can't in recovery. I'm on a tablet ATM22:38
diego__well22:38
diego__is ur i7 sandy ivy haswell22:39
diego__1 gen 2 gen22:39
diego__wich one22:39
mustafa_ERROR: dependencies ‘session’, ‘RMySQL’ are not available for package ‘concerto’22:39
mustafa_* removing ‘/usr/lib/R/library/concerto’22:39
mustafa_any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu22:40
Bashing-omkypor__home: "lspce" shows no other than the ATI card ? .. I can not explain then why "nomodeset" will not boot to some kind of graphics display // in the recovery mode, can you then get to the GUI ?22:40
Bashing-om*lspci22:40
mustafa_any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu22:40
kypor__homeNo, lspci | Grip VGA displays ATI card. Ya nomodeset doesn't do anything22:41
kypor__homeI think its 4th gen Intel i722:41
kypor__homeSorry maybe 3rd22:43
kypor__home3400 series chipset22:43
jomcShould I install gentoo?22:43
jomcguys pls22:44
jomchalp22:44
Albatrossno22:44
jomc):22:44
arfentDoes anyone know about why ufw doesn't at least block incoming browser connections?22:44
AlbatrossInstall Windows and free yourself of these plagues.22:44
jomclol22:44
kypor__homeLol22:45
kypor__homeDid that too. ATI has never worked22:45
arfenti cant go back to windows, i started out on whisky and soon moved onto the harder stuff...22:45
AlbatrossIf whisky ran most of the world's programs, you should have stuck with it.22:46
Jordan_Uarfent: Your broswer sends outgoing http requests on port 80, the responses from that server are not to port 80.22:47
arfentJordan_U: To what port are those responses? Thing is ufw claims to have blocked all incoming calls, aren't those browser responses the server gives also incoming calls?22:48
kypor__homeI can see on search there are others with this issue but no fixes. Just using Radon22:49
wexwimpyE: man-db: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what does this mean22:49
kypor__homeRadeeon driver is the fix22:49
Jordan_Uarfent: Randomized. And no, since the connection was initiated by your browser it is considered an outgoing connection. Just because a connection is "outgoing" doesn't mean that data can only be sent one way.22:49
arfentJordan_U: I see thanks.22:50
Bashing-omkypor__home: radeon is the open source driver for ATI cards, the 5 series does have FGLRX support. As to why you can not get a graphics display, I am at a loss to explain presently.22:51
Jordan_Uarfent: You're welcome.22:52
kypor__homeThanks yes same22:52
skinuxHow would disk space for '/' become full when home, opt, and /var/www are all on a different partition from '/'?22:53
kypor__homeI'm stumped too22:53
Bashing-omkypor__home: The i7 Intel board "might" be with integrated graphics, have you looked in bios and see if integrated grahics is supported on your machine ?22:54
skinuxI've been removing packages, but disk space only decreased and now says it's all used.22:54
kypor__homeYes and there is nothing there22:54
kypor__homeNo integrated22:55
KovicaI'm running xubuntu 12.04 and have two monitors (one is touch screen, one is not). Touch screen is working OK until I connect the second display. Then the "mouse" moves from left top of one display to right lower corner of the second display, despite the fact I only "click" on one display. I've tried xinit_calibrator, but it draws itself acrosss both displays. How to solve this?22:55
Jordan_Uskinux: Please pastebin the output of "df -h".22:56
Jordan_Uskinux: There are a lot of files outside of /home/, /opt/, and /var/www/.22:57
Bashing-omkypor__home: Try this boot paramater : "xforcevesa" .22:59
mexi_d3skinux: You might need apt-get autoclean/apt-get autoremove to actually remove all the files; there's `bleachbit` as well, which cleans temp/old files.22:59
greenmansimple question.  I've tried doing an ifdown and up.  I've tried rebooting.  I've tried dhclient -r.  Is there another way to release DHCP info?22:59
daftykinsgreenman: release? it doesn't take a reboot. what are you after?23:00
greenmandaftykins: I changed my ip address allocation on my router and I want my server to have the new ip address23:00
greenmantry as I might, I can't get it to release it's old lease.23:00
greenmanI tried dhclient -r and then a dhclient, but that gave this:23:01
daftykinsgreenman: reboot the router.23:01
daftykinsgreenman: but static addresses are set manually, for real network admin - not static leasing23:01
greenmanRTNETLINK answers: File exists23:01
daftykinsyour approach is bad23:02
mexi_d3greenman: I would recommend you used a static address for a server. You might need to hardcode in connection info one day.23:02
kypor__homeI deleted the fglrx driver and am using radeeon once again23:02
kypor__homeSucks23:02
mexi_d3greenman: However `sudo ifdown eth0` should work23:02
kypor__homeUbuntu still won't work for me23:02
Joe_knockHello, how do I create a list of IRC channels I'd like to join automatically when I start XChat?23:07
daftykinsJoe_knock: this is ubuntu support, not IRC support. feel free to ask in #freenode23:08
Joe_knockhmmm, okay daftykins23:08
synth_Joe_knock http://xchat.org/faq/#q2223:09
mustafa_any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu23:09
creatureHello. I want to run a command when I press my Windows key (Super_L) but the keyboard preferences seem to INSIST that Super_L is a modifier only. How do I get it to do what I want?23:10
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Joe_knocksynth_: thanks!!23:11
mustafa_any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu23:11
wilee-nilee!patience | mustafa_23:12
ubottumustafa_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:12
RandyLangstonhello23:12
synth_Greetings Lord RandyLangston23:12
Joe_knockmustafa_: What are you trying to accomplish?23:12
mustafa_any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu23:12
mustafa_thanks23:12
RandyLangstonhey synth23:12
synth_lol23:13
Joe_knock!patience | mustafa_23:13
wilee-nileemustafa_, YOU see the bot message?23:13
ubottumustafa_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:13
RandyLangstoni had a question for anyone that might be able to help me23:13
mustafa_trying to install concerto on ubuntu...facing an errot23:13
RandyLangstonmy friend wants to put ubuntu on her laptop23:13
Joe_knockRandyLangston: Don't ask to ask. Just ask23:13
RandyLangstonhowever she has something im not famiar with on this laptop23:13
mustafa_mustafa@mustafa3113:/var/www/concerto/lib/R$ sudo R CMD INSTALL -l /usr/lib/R/library concerto23:13
mustafa_ERROR: dependency ‘RMySQL’ is not available for package ‘concerto’23:13
mustafa_* removing ‘/usr/lib/R/library/concerto’23:13
Joe_knockmustafa_: paste your error into some text pasting tool and share here23:13
synth_oh man23:13
Joe_knockRandyLangston: What might that thing be?23:14
RandyLangstonto unlock her pc she has to put her fingerprint on it23:14
RandyLangstonim wondering if ubuntu would work with something like this23:14
synth_do you know if it's built into the bios ?23:14
RandyLangstonno idea23:14
Joe_knockmustafa_: The error is pretty clear: ERROR: dependency ‘RMySQL’ is not available for package ‘concerto’23:14
RandyLangstonthere is a scanner on the laptop23:14
vilambitRandyLang: is that after it boots or before?23:14
RandyLangstonthats all i know23:14
Joe_knockyikes, a fingerprint laptop.23:15
RandyLangstongood question vilabit... lol23:15
RandyLangstoni dont know yet23:15
synth_do you know the make/model of the laptop?23:15
wilee-nileeRandyLangston, Try to lay off the enter, consolidate info to single posts.23:15
RandyLangstonno synth i dont23:15
RandyLangstonguess i should get more info and come back lol23:15
RandyLangstongotcha wilee23:15
synth_we would probably be able to help more if we knew that info :)23:15
wilee-nileeRandyLangston, Cool, thanks. ;)23:15
Joe_knockRandyLangston: Is the fingerprint scan necessary to switch the laptop on?23:15
Joe_knockoh that has been asked. soryr23:16
Joe_knocksorry23:16
RandyLangstoni am not sure joe knock... i only seen it once , all i know is it is a HP laptop , and that it has that fingerprint scan  on it23:16
piyush1911Hi23:17
piyush1911I am running a ubuntu12.04 server23:17
Joe_knockpiyush1911: Come here: #ubuntu-server. I'll help you there23:17
piyush1911and when I try to run 'sudo apt-get update' the machine throws up a lot of 404 errors23:18
piyush1911"W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]"23:18
Joe_knockpiyush1911: ...23:18
piyush1911the machine is a x86_64, but apt looks for armhf packages23:18
wilee-nileepiyush1911, If the source list is the same when working, change the repo23:19
mustafa_mustafa@mustafa3113:/var/www/concerto/lib/R$ sudo R CMD INSTALL -l /usr/lib/R/library concerto23:19
mustafa_ERROR: dependency ‘RMySQL’ is not available for package ‘concerto’23:19
mustafa_* removing ‘/usr/lib/R/library/concerto’23:19
RandyLangstoni suppose i should find out more about this machine and i will come back, thank you guys for trying to help me23:19
RandyLangstonhave a good night all23:19
wilee-nileenight23:19
mustafa_conerto install help needed23:19
mustafa_sorry concerto23:19
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Joe_knockmustafa_: You don't like to read and understand instructions mate...23:19
piyush1911Joe_knock: but why is the apt looking for arm packages23:20
wilee-nileepiyush1911, If you can a pastebin of a full update helps us help you.23:20
Joe_knockpiyush1911: This isn't the right channel to be asking for ubuntu-server support. I'm telling you this because an ubuntu-server support channel exists23:20
wilee-nileeJoe_knock, Fair point however we help the server people all the time and refer to that channel when needed.23:21
Joe_knockwilee-nilee, piyush1911: My apologies then.23:21
synth_his error could also happen on a non server ubuntu23:22
wilee-nileeJoe_knock, Some problems are fairly straight forward, and there are helpers here who are working linux IT.23:22
piyush1911http://pastebin.com/ubW2AEz523:22
OerHekspiyush1911, maybe your server is running on an Arm machine? see lscpu23:23
mustafa_sorry joe im a newbe here...what exactly u meant by copy paste tool23:23
piyush1911# lscpu23:23
piyush1911Architecture:          x86_6423:23
piyush1911CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit23:23
piyush1911Byte Order:            Little Endian23:23
piyush1911CPU(s):                423:23
piyush1911On-line CPU(s) list:   0-323:23
unopastepiyush1911 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted23:23
synth_mustafa_ http://pastebin.com for instance23:23
Joe_knockmustafa_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23:23
Joe_knockmustafa_: I say this because if you start a long paste, some mod in a bad mood might ban/kick you.23:24
wilee-nileepiyush1911, You have added a additional armf repo it looks like are you sure it has support for your release.23:24
Joe_knocklike piyush1911 getting muted...23:24
piyush1911http://pastebin.com/PcSGvij323:24
Joe_knockx86_64 would mean it is a 64-bit architecture.23:25
mustafa_here it is23:25
mustafa_http://paste.ubuntu.com/7547413/23:25
piyush1911Joe_knock: here is my souces.list23:26
piyush1911http://pastebin.com/WYxmwb1p23:26
Joe_knockpiyush1911: Are you root?23:26
piyush1911yes23:26
synth_mustafa_ try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install r-cran-rmysql23:27
synth_then try again23:27
Jordan_Upiyush1911: Please pastebin the name and contents of all of the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ .23:27
daftykinspiyush1911: how come you're @...nvidia.com ? :)23:27
Joe_knockdaftykins: :D23:28
mustafa_any ideas joe...i have pasted the link23:28
mustafa_http://paste.ubuntu.com/7547413/23:28
piyush1911Joe_knock: http://pastebin.com/Air3UV4F23:29
synth_mustafa_ try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install r-cran-rmysql23:29
Joe_knockmustafa_: See synth_s recommendation. You require rmysql to be installed.23:29
Joe_knocklooks like you have the basic source list only piyush191123:31
piyush1911somehow the apt is looking for arm packages instead of x86_64 packages23:31
piyush1911somehow the apt is looking for armhf packages instead of x86_64 packages23:32
Joe_knockpiyush1911: What is the pastebin for the error output?23:32
piyush1911http://pastebin.com/ubW2AEz523:32
synth_piyush1911 can you pastebin:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list23:33
synth_instead of sources.list.d/*23:33
piyush1911http://pastebin.com/WYxmwb1p23:34
piyush1911synth_:http://pastebin.com/WYxmwb1p23:34
Joe_knockpiyush1911: Ironically, I think nvidia might be the issue here. Did you try to install any NVidia packages?23:34
piyush1911haha..23:35
piyush1911there are no nvidia packages on this machine right now23:35
synth_hmmm23:36
Joe_knockI came across an error for somebody else who was getting these errors, because he/she installed: cuda toolkit23:36
piyush1911Joe_knock: No cuda23:37
arfentIs firefox updating ubuntu users to 29.0.1?23:38
daftykinsarfent: even if it isn't it doesn't matter because the .1 fixes are mostly windows related23:38
synth_piyush1911 what does cat /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch show?23:38
Joe_knockpiyush1911: This is the closest I came to discovering your error - http://askubuntu.com/questions/347945/problem-when-i-apt-get-update-precise-main-armhf-packages-404-not-found . Proceed with caution. It seems like you may be able to remove armhf23:38
arfentsynth_: k thanks23:39
synth_?23:39
synth_wrong guy haha23:39
Joe_knockGetting thanks for the wrong thing ehh23:40
piyush1911Joe_knock, synth_: WOW that fixed it23:40
synth_:D23:40
piyush1911man cuda messes with some stuff23:41
Joe_knockpiyush1911: I think it was just that those armhf packages were specified when they shouldn't be. I can only wonder why. Also, you're using 12.04.3, try to upgrade to 12.04.423:42
piyush1911daftykins: few days a week i work at nvidia23:43
daftykinspiyush1911: ah, may i ask what doing? :)23:44
piyush1911Automotive23:44
daftykinslooking after cars 0o23:44
piyush1911yep!23:45
arthurdentdo i have to configure the kernel in any special way to do nbdroot?23:45
Baakocan some suggest me a good php text editor for ubuntu please? the netbeans I install is bugger alot.23:45
OerHeks!ide23:45
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator23:45
Joe_knockBaako: Netbeans is 1 massive IDE23:45
arthurdent(nbdroot over the network via pxe)23:45
piyush1911Joe_knock: we were seeing some flaky nfs-kernel daemon issues with any kernel above 3.5.0.49 ... hence we are on 12.04.0323:47
Joe_knockpiyush1911: Good enough reason to not update.23:48
Jordan_Upiyush1911: Have you filed a bug report?23:49
Shinyui have a question about nic  support23:49
piyush1911Jordan_U: no not yet, but will do.23:49
MPEREZHello I am having trouble updating my ubuntu system23:49
MPEREZI need help please23:50
Shinyuis the Intel WG-I217V supported in ubuntu?23:50
Joe_knockMPEREZ: Feel free to ask your question.23:50
lucaNapoliitaliani?23:50
piyush1911MPEREZ: there are many helpers here please let us know what is your issue23:51
MPEREZOk everytime I try to update i get an error. I have ubuntu 8.04 and I wish to upgrade to the latest version23:51
xangua!eol | MPEREZ23:51
ubottuMPEREZ: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:51
daftykinsMPEREZ: sorry, you're eol23:51
synth_lucaNapoli #ubuntu-it23:51
lucaNapolitnk23:51
Joe_knock8.04!!!!23:52
MPEREZok so i got an old one and your not allowed to help?23:52
Joe_knockMPEREZ: I think what daftykins is trying to say is that you should download Ubuntu 12.04 or ubuntu 14.0423:53
arthurdentor pay 5.5m GBP to extend support for another year23:53
daftykinsJoe_knock: i think the links spoke for themselves!23:53
MPEREZoh well i tried the disk dident work23:53
daftykinsMPEREZ: correct, unsupported is unsupported23:54
Jordan_UMPEREZ: Did you recently install Ubuntu?23:54
synth_maybe try doing a usb thumbdrive install23:54
MPEREZyes the other day23:54
arthurdento_o23:54
Jordan_UMPEREZ: OK. Why didn't you install Ubuntu 14.04?23:54
Joe_knockMPEREZ: I'm guessing you're running a 32-bit machine.23:54
Joe_knockand might have downloaded 64-bit23:54
MPEREZmy friend gave me a disk for 8.0423:55
arthurdenti feel like i stepped into a time machine23:55
Jordan_UMPEREZ: You should download and install Ubuntu 14.04 instead.23:55
Pushyis ubuntu simliar to solaris?23:55
MPEREZok ill get to it thanks23:56
Pushyanyone also know solaris?23:56
alfonsojonIs it just me, or is the Ubuntu site being hammered?23:56
arthurdentPushy: it's an OS... so in that sense it's similar23:56
Jordan_UPushy: "similar" is a vague term. Why do you ask?23:56
Pushycause i use solaris 11, and don't even know how to install xchat23:56
Pushyusually in ubuntu i do,  sudo apt-get install xchat23:57
Pushyor from the app store23:57
alfonsojonah23:57
alfonsojonjust google "solaris 11 package manager"23:57
Pushynot much help for solaris23:57
Jordan_UPushy: This isn't the correct channel to be asking questions about how to use Solaris.23:57
arthurdentPushy: you may want to try #solaris for help with that kind of thing23:57
Pushysolaris channel is like dead23:58
Joe_knockI don't blame Pushy though. Solaris?? Do people use that at all?23:58
Jordan_UPushy: That doesn't make this the right channel. This is still #ubuntu, and we only support Ubuntu here.23:58
daftykinsJoe_knock: i do, please don't encourage the seeking of support for other things in here23:59

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