[00:00] <andreas_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540201
[00:00] <arthurdent> Guest57856: pick a username that isn't unavailable
[00:00] <am27> thanks
[00:03] <hibernatehelp> yo
[00:03] <hibernatehelp> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop but the hibernate is missing, how do I enable it??
[00:03] <TJ-> andreas_: And now can you post "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[00:04] <hibernatehelp> it is ubuntu 14.04 lts
[00:05] <hibernatehelp> also the screen brightness slider doesn't do anything
[00:05] <andreas_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540233
[00:06] <aladin> Hey thankks guys im into the php channel now
[00:06] <TJ-> andreas_: Bashing-om "[   17.865276] init: gdm main process (1013) killed by TERM signal" ... and there are other TERMS of other services earlier
[00:07] <nial74> hibernatehelp: pm-suspend?
[00:07] <agspy1> Alright. I have a question that is probably extremely simple, but its not easy for me. .-.
[00:07] <arthurdent> lol
[00:07] <arthurdent> that might have worked
[00:08] <TJ-> andreas_: Now show us "tail -n 5000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[00:08] <agspy1> Anyone good with windows 8?
[00:09] <bekks> agspy1: Ask ##windows
[00:09] <andreas_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540246
[00:10] <agspy1> My windows will NOT boot off of my disc. Whatsoever. Went into my BIOS menu and changed the boot priorities, and nothing came of it. Any ideas?
[00:11] <nial74> agspy1: What has this to do with Ubuntu? Did you install it?
[00:11] <arthurdent> agspy1: this is #ubuntu
[00:11] <TJ-> andreas_: THat's very helpful, it identifies an issue with the drivers, bear with me
[00:11] <agspy1> My bad. I didnt mean my windows. My computer wont boot my ubuntu disc. (I shouldve prolly said that before)
[00:11] <andreas_> TJ: not a problem
[00:13] <lenswipe> Logan_, they named an airport after you :)
[00:13] <beardtree> Is there any way to reset internet?
[00:13] <beardtree> sudo service networking restart kills x
[00:13] <agspy1> No one? :c
[00:15] <Sachiru> What linux filesystem supports transparent compression?
[00:15] <TJ-> andreas_: Bashing-om I'm looking at "[   18.049873] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x23:0x2f:682)" in syslog
[00:16] <raub> andreas_: errors?
[00:16] <andreas_> raub: with what exactly lol take your pick
[00:16] <raub> andreas_: NVM, that was for agspy1:
[00:16] <andreas_> raub: oh lol oops
[00:17] <raub> beardtree: what do you mean by killing X?
[00:17] <nashant> Hi, I have 2 gpus in my system. Is there a way to tell ubuntu which to use?
[00:17] <agspy1> raub I am not getting any errors. It just wont boot off of the disc. It will only boot my windows 8.
[00:18] <Phlyrox> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu 14 from within windows 7? I do not have a cd/usb i can use atm.
[00:18] <raub> Phlyrox: from within? As in a vm?
[00:18] <Phlyrox> not as vm,
[00:18] <Bashing-om> andreas_: TJ- Dogs lit up outside, had to go see what had them disturbed. playing catch up.
[00:19] <Gallomimia> agspy1: usually you need to get your bios to accept a boot drive other than your OS
[00:19] <Phlyrox> i still want to dual boot. i would of liked to use wubi but i noticed it is no longer supported
[00:19] <TJ-> Bashing-om: See line 4826 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540246/
[00:20] <Phlyrox> i have already looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[00:20] <agspy1> I once tried ubuntu before. But I cant remember if it was while I had windows 7 or 8. I think this may by my first time booting off of something other than my normal OS.
[00:21] <Phlyrox> however it seems that the page is outdated
[00:22] <Gallomimia> agspy1: do you know if this disk will boot on another computer yet?
[00:22] <agspy1> I dont own or have open access to any others.
[00:22] <Gallomimia> cause that can cause a different set of problems than your computer not booting off this disk
[00:22] <Gallomimia> where'd you get the disc?
[00:23] <agspy1> A normal blank DVD that was burned with the extracted .iso files.
[00:23] <Gallomimia> k. pretty tough to know which problem to try addressing. do you have any other dvd's that can boot the computer?
[00:24] <Gallomimia> windows disc, rescue... hardware test... password cracker.
[00:25] <agspy1> The only other thing I can do is make the EXACT same thing, and try to run it. The only problem I have is I only have about 1 more disc, and I would like to not use it.
[00:25] <Sachiru> Anyone using ZFS on Linux for production on limited systems? How much RAM is the minimum requirements for it? Somehow I can't find that in the documentation.
[00:25] <bitblt> why would canonical ship a cobbler package in trusty that can't even recognize trusty?
[00:25] <Gallomimia> well you got a problem then. cause you don't even know if you made the disc right and you have nothing else to test for bootability
[00:26] <TJ-> andreas_: Bashing-om OK, I think I see why that error happened. The *wrong* version of the nvidia proprietary driver is installed. The legacy driver is installed, but the installed device needs the current driver, version 331   "NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  173.14.39"
[00:26] <Gallomimia> there's two things that can cause the disc not to boot. one is that it hasn't been made properly, with boot flag and so forth. (i use usb sticks myself) and two is that your computer is setup to allow booting from dvd's. you don't know the answer to either, nor do you have equipment to test for it
[00:27] <OerHeks> Sachiru,  "If the deduplication feature is used, a general rule of thumb is 5GB of RAM per TB of storage" https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/filesystems-zfs.html
[00:27] <agspy1> I dont see how I could make it wrong. I downloaded the iso off of the ubuntu website. I extracted all the files, burned them onto a disk, went into my BIOS, changed the priorities to boot off of a disc as top, and it doesnt even think about it.
[00:28] <Gallomimia> nope. that's not right
[00:28] <agspy1> What isnt right.
[00:28] <Gallomimia> don't extract the files. burn the iso as is
[00:28] <agspy1> I am going to do that. And if it doesnt work, I will be back in here.
[00:29] <Gallomimia> we'll expect you i guess. staying here to talk more would be smarter...
[00:29] <Sachiru> Nah
[00:29] <Sachiru> No intention to dedupe
[00:29] <Sachiru> Just bare needs
[00:29] <Sachiru> I do intend to compress though
[00:29] <OerHeks> Sachiru, then 1 gb/tb storage
[00:30] <TJ-> andreas_: Can you show us "dpkg-query -l 'nvidia*' | pastebinit" ?
[00:30] <Phlyrox> come back to say thanks when it works
[00:30] <andreas_> TJ: yerp.
[00:31] <andreas_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540323
[00:32] <Sachiru> Ok.
[00:32] <Sachiru> Is that 1GB including OS, or just for ZFS needs?
[00:33] <OerHeks> that would be ex OS
[00:35] <Logan_> lenswipe: isn't that brilliant?
[00:36] <Sachiru> Ok
[00:36] <tsEliot> hey so I'm partitioning a win7 hard drive to use ubuntu and I have four partitions that came with the laptop I'm using. I have SYSTEM_DRV and Windows 7, which I'm fairly confident are important, and I have a Lenovo and Lenovo_PART partitions. Does anyone know how I can combine these or get rid of one so I can have another partition?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> TJ-: -> we had previously "removed" the Nvidia driver ( thought so !) and installed the nouveau driver. looks like I did not do my work very well.
[00:41] <TJ-> andreas_: Sorry, I got side-tracked. Just looked, that's helpful. Can you remind which version of Ubuntu that is ("cat /etc/issue") ?
[00:42] <TJ-> Bashing-om: looks like the legacy driver is still there, possibly a left-over from the mobo's on-board video which is BIOS-disabled?
[00:43] <agspy1> Look whos back. :)
[00:43] <TJ-> andreas_: "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-173 nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-common"
[00:44] <andreas_> TJ: um... did you mean my version of ubuntu or what the boot_image said from that command
[00:44] <andreas_> ok
[00:44] <TJ-> andreas_: "cat /etc/issue"
[00:44] <Bashing-om> TJ-: -> andreas_ Not to detract your mind, I am mistified why the Nvidia driver is still present, and as well why nouvuea is still blacklisted, will have to address these manually I recon.
[00:44] <lenswipe> Logan_, yes it is :)
[00:44] <lenswipe> Logan_, I fly there every christmas to see my FIancee
[00:44] <lenswipe> :D
[00:44] <agspy1> Gallomimia I am back,
[00:44] <TJ-> Bashing-om: which nvidia package did you delete originally?
[00:45] <Gallomimia> burned another disc?
[00:45] <Phlyrox> it didnt work?
[00:45] <agspy1> Yep. Burned it. without extracting the iso. Nada
[00:45] <Bashing-om> TJ-:  I "think" now maybe only nvidia-current .
[00:45] <TJ-> Bashing-om: that'd explain these legacy drivers remaining
[00:46] <andreas_> TJ: boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-63-generic
[00:47] <andreas_> Bashing-om: hey, whatever it takes, yeah?
[00:47] <agspy1> And I was right, That was my last disc.
[00:47] <TJ-> andreas_: That isn't the output of "cat /etc/issue" is it?
[00:48] <TJ-> andreas_: I'm expecting something like "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l"
[00:49] <andreas_> TJ: ok that last command finished and ended with "ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot" shall I do that?
[00:49] <Phlyrox> so is it possible to install ubuntu14 from within windows7 like wubi once did without having to use a cd/usb
[00:50] <andreas_> TJ: I'm not running 14.04 I'm running 12.04. paste.ubuntu.com/7540201 is the cat one
[00:51] <TJ-> andreas_: thanks, I just wanted to be sure :)
[00:51] <andreas_> should I reboot?
[00:51] <TJ-> andreas_: not yet, no.
[00:51] <andreas_> TJ: ok
[00:51] <andreas_> TJ: glad I asked lol
[00:52] <TJ-> Bashing-om can you take andreas_ through the removal of "blacklist nouveau" entries whilst I research the motherboard in detail?
[00:52] <matty> Hello I am running ubuntu 13.10 on a Dell, I can watch Amazon Prime video but if I switch tabs, the video goes blank and only audio works, what can I do? I tried restarting
[00:52] <TJ-> andreas_: As I understand it, this is the motherboard:  http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1801_2.html
[00:53] <andreas_> TJ: that's the one
[00:53] <agspy1> No one?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> TJ-: an yeah .. I want to do it hands on .. show us -> ls -la /etc/modprobe.d | pastebinit <-.
[00:54] <Bashing-om> andreas_: ^^
[00:54] <andreas_> k
[00:55] <agspy1> Alright, thanks for ignoring me. I guess I wasted my time here.
[00:55] <andreas_> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/7540473
[00:55] <TJ-> andreas_: whilst you're pastebinning, can you do "sudo lspci -nnvvv | pastebinit" for me, pretty-please :) ?
[00:55] <andreas_> TJ: not a problem }:)
[00:56] <andreas_> TJ: paste.ubuntu.com/7540474
[00:57] <Bashing-om> andreas_: look'n at 7540473 .
[00:58] <andreas_> where do you change your username on here I've been trying to find it lol
[00:59] <Phlyrox> no idea
[00:59] <TJ-> andreas_: Thanks. That tells me that at some point in the past, you disabled the motherboard's internal GeForce 8200  graphics chipset and only used the external, PCIe, adapter, is that correct?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> andreas_: All I see of interest presently is the 1 file -> cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | pastebinit <- .
[01:00] <Gallomimia> username on the chat or on the paste.ubuntu.com site?
[01:00] <andreas_> TJ: yes, because it was not displaying and I remember the first card was having trouble because of it. once I did that everything was fine
[01:00] <TJ-> andreas_: OK, I'm just ensuring that my reading of the info you provide matches reality :)
[01:00] <TJ-> andreas_: gives us more confidence in recommending changes
[01:01] <andreas_> TJ: bitchin~
[01:02] <TJ-> Bashing-om: an aside: I suspect that this may have been why the 'correct' nvidia driver (version 3xx) failed because the older kernel version was loading first. I think it'd be high probability that now andreas has removed those older legacy drivers, re-installing the nvidia-3xx version would give him a fully working, 3D accelerated, system
[01:03] <hibernateme> how do you enable hibernation in ubuntu 14.04?
[01:04] <Bashing-om> TJ-: You recommend the proprietary driver over nouveau ? .. I persoanally have had the better results from open source drivers ( non-gameing) .
[01:04] <TJ-> hibernateme: If I recall correctly, hibernation option was removed because of many problems, so most systems only have access to suspend/resume. I believe there are hibernation solutions that will work though.
[01:05] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I've never had a problem with latest nvidia drivers; I'm using v337.68 here now, on a laptop, with 3 nvidia GPUs
[01:06] <andreas_> gallomimia: the chat. sorry, I didn't see anyone had replied to that, I'm like in 3 places at once lol
[01:06] <Gallomimia> yeah
[01:06] <Bashing-om> TJ-: andreas_  Nothing says we can not try the Nvidia driver and see what results, no need then to non-blacklist nouveau .
[01:07] <Gallomimia> to change username in chat its simple /nick newname
[01:07] <Phlyrox> so from the lack of response, I assume no one knows i maybe able to install ubuntu without a cd or usb?
[01:07] <hibernateme> how do you enable hibernation in ubuntu 14.04?
[01:07] <TJ-> Bashing-om: it looks like precise-updates has 331.38 with package "nvidia-331-updates" from restricted
[01:07] <andreas_> omg that damn simple lol ok, thanks much
[01:08] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I don't disagree with testing with the nouveau driver first though, if you want to go ahead with that. It would give us some good confirmation the card itself works!
[01:08] <TJ-> Phlyrox: you could via a PXE boot, but you'd need to set up a PXE/bootp/NFS environment for it
[01:08] <andreas_> TJ: well, the card must work to some degree, since it's being used to do all this so far lol
[01:09] <debian_dog> Phlyrox: there is a way usung unetbootin
[01:09] <Phlyrox> TJ-, thanks. ill look into it
[01:10] <debian_dog> google it os go to unetbootin, I believe instead of extracting iso to usb, use a partition instead, and then reboot/select from grub menu
[01:10] <Phlyrox> debian_dog, ill also look into that. thanks
[01:10] <TJ-> andreas_: I was meaning for 2D/3D graphics :p
[01:10] <Vivekananda> hey everyone lenovo t61 running ubntu 12.04. today suddenly for some reason my laptop is stuck at 1.2 ghz speed although max is 2.1 . It is not going any higher and I was hoping to find out why
[01:11] <andreas_> TJ: lol yeah Iknow
[01:11] <andreas_> I'm not fixing that
[01:12] <seer-of-void> ahh much better
[01:12] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Better warn Bashing-om !
[01:13] <Sachiru> Query: Is it possible to limit ZRAM on the system?
[01:13] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: it's andreas, I changed my name  just so you know
[01:13] <Sachiru> Specifically set ZRAM to 1/2GB instead of some percentage?
[01:13] <duckchat> HP Pavillion 2004 32-bit trying to install 14.04.  cd runs until the point where it will setup the graphics and show desktop, etc.  screen goes blank.  runs for a while and quits.  nothing.
[01:14] <Bashing-om> andreas_:/ seer-of-void > TJ- May be real happy with the performance of the Nvidia driver. only takes a moment -> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates <- see what happens.
[01:15]  * TJ- nods at Bashing-om 
[01:15] <ianorlin> duckhat how much ram?
[01:15] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: k doin it now
[01:15] <ianorlin> !md5 |duckchat if the install is bad
[01:16] <Vivekananda> anyone any clues
[01:16] <Vivekananda> ?
[01:17] <duckchat> ianorlin: I will check the ram.  only one slot filled.
[01:17] <_2_ana> hello:'(
[01:18] <duckchat> btw, 12.10 runs fine.
[01:18] <duckchat> good idea to check the install and i will.
[01:18] <_2_ana> fjsklakdkek
[01:18] <_2_ana> :)
[01:18] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: it finished
[01:18] <_2_ana> yesss
[01:21] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: I'm torn on how to see what we have, best course I think is reboot -> sudo shutdown -r now <-.
[01:21] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: welp. let's see.
[01:21] <Megabyte> Guys, what is the manual channel of Ubuntu again?
[01:22] <_2_ana> hdjskslsjdhdhsux:'(:D(L):)
[01:22]  * TJ- prepares the birthday cake
[01:22] <seer-of-void> YOU GUYS
[01:22] <seer-of-void> I HAVE A CURSOR AGAIN
[01:22] <_2_ana> hkdkajshjajs
[01:23] <Megabyte> Hello?...
[01:23] <_2_ana> hello
[01:23] <seer-of-void> JESUS IN A TRAINING BRA, I COULD KISS YOU BOTH
[01:23] <rww> _2_ana: something we can help you with today?
[01:23] <_2_ana> (L)
[01:23] <Megabyte> Guys, do you know what is the irc channel of Ubuntu's instruction manual?
[01:23] <rww> Megabyte: which instruction manual?
[01:23] <_2_ana> noo thanks
[01:23] <rww> _2_ana: then please be quiet and keep the channel clear for support, thanks
[01:23] <Megabyte> rww, its User's Guide
[01:23] <Megabyte> www.ubuntumanual.org
[01:24] <Megabyte> If memory serves me right
[01:24] <_2_ana> ;)
[01:24] <rww> Megabyte: https://ubuntu-manual.org/ is at #ubuntu-manual
[01:24] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: TJ: *mwah* god I've missed my computer. t h a n k y o u both
[01:25]  * TJ- hands out slices of birthday cake
[01:25] <Sway> ._.
[01:25] <Ranieri_> We're such a cute family... #ubuntu
[01:26] <Ranieri_> We got the hot guy (me), the brainiac(TJ-) and the down-to-earth guy(Sway)
[01:27] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Great ! you do good work, ya want to tackle that hard drive now ? - I need to be away for a short to take casre of my dogs.
[01:27] <Bashing-om> *care
[01:27] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: if it's not too much. already kept you on here for what, 5 hours now?
[01:28] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: what kind of dogs
[01:28] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: I am a grown man, If I did not want to, I would not, I will be back shortly.
[01:29] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: nothing to do with age lol just makin sure, I like to be considerate
[01:29] <gartral> what's going on with the Ubuntu-Studio channel, I can't join it
[01:30] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Now-a-days they have been relegated to yard/watch dogs. Bassett hound, bull dog and 3 little yappers.
[01:31] <TJ-> Bashing-om: 2 Siberian Huskies here... slouched asleep in the study behind me!
[01:32] <jetpilotx> i need help canhelp me?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Nothing like the love and devotion of our "man's best friend" .
[01:33] <TJ-> Bashing-om: they're Huskies they have no loyalty! They run off on 10 seconds notice :) Luckily I'm on a large farm so I can intercept them before they leave the grounds
[01:34] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: TJ: I'm a cat person, myself. but there are a few dog breeds that I love
[01:35] <Gallomimia> oh help. i'm having problems using a keyboard at all within any installer after having some bios hiccups. something must be set wrong
[01:35] <TJ-> Gallomimia: Is it a USB keyboard?
[01:35] <Gallomimia> it is
[01:36] <lenswipe> hey guys
[01:36] <lenswipe> installing ubuntu server
[01:36] <lenswipe> i got past the keyboard detection bit
[01:36] <lenswipe> now i just have a purple screen
[01:36] <Gallomimia> nothing on it?
[01:36] <lenswipe> i pressed enter a few times and it filled up with light grey
[01:36] <lenswipe> want a pic?
[01:37] <Gallomimia> its not hard to imagine. just trying to figure out the problem
[01:38] <Gallomimia> did you check the hash of the file before making install media?
[01:38] <lenswipe> no
[01:38] <Gallomimia> i never do that either ;)
[01:38] <lenswipe> Gallomimia, this machine doesn't have an internet connection could that be related?
[01:38] <TJ-> Gallomimia: in the BIOS settings, ensure that "legacy USB" or similar is enabled. Otherwise, the BIOS leaves it to the booted OS... which means the boot-loader and won't have keyboard. If a full kernel starts then that *should* load the correct USB HID drivers though
[01:38] <lenswipe> TJ-, the keyboard works perfectly (PS/2 keyboard)
[01:39] <Gallomimia> it doesn't have a full kernel working at this point. installers only
[01:39] <Gallomimia> lenswipe: he's telling me about keyboard problems
[01:39] <lenswipe> oh
[01:39] <Gallomimia> TJ-: i've fiddled with that setting a lot, and i'm seeing no benefit so far. i'll try some more. i think it's my settings of legacy only or uefi only
[01:39] <TJ-> Gallomimia: OK, I've seen that happen alot... reboot into BIOS settings... do a "load factory defaults", look for and check that "legacy USB" (or whatever it is called) is enabled, make any custom changes you know you need, save the settings, and reboot.
[01:40] <Gallomimia> everything runs ontop of bios, and i have done nothing with mine. not even update it :(
[01:40] <TJ-> Gallomimia: I think the important step, often, is to reload default settings... it seems sometimes the NVRAM config gets corrupted and sets some 'bits' it ought not
[01:40] <Gallomimia> TJ-: so far the field is not titled "custom changes i know i need" it's called "custom changes i think i need"
[01:40] <TJ-> Gallomimia: :)
[01:41] <Gallomimia> yeah that's what's happened. i got a couple messages saying its reloading bios settings from a backup bios, and soon it will boot. i dunno what's changed
[01:41] <Gallomimia> ah. "load optimised defaults"
[01:42] <Gallomimia> the part i get confused with is xhci and ehci hand-off support. looking them up made the problem worse
[01:44] <lenswipe> Gallomimia, imgur.com/0m0yx6R
[01:45] <Gallomimia> lenswipe: as i said its easy to imagine. it's not easy to figure out whats wrong
[01:45] <Gallomimia> the only thing i can suggest is that the install media is broken somehow
[01:46] <Gallomimia> TJ-: trying the desktop livecd gives me a blackscreen now
[01:46] <Gallomimia> i had it working with this hardware setup before
[01:47] <Gallomimia> and i did not try nomodeset
[01:47] <TJ-> Gallomimia: Hmmm!
[01:48] <Gallomimia> odd this yes. legacyopcode or efi?
[01:48] <Gallomimia> the hardware has changed since last i had this system running
[01:49] <TJ-> Gallomimia: I prefer EFI, especially if you plan on a multi-boot setup
[01:49] <lenswipe> Gallomimia, right, i might re-download and install
[01:49] <brontos_> Any body else have issues with Chromium being very large in ubuntu?
[01:49] <Gallomimia> lenswipe: you can double check the hash of the file you downloaded
[01:50] <lenswipe> yh
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> brontos_, Can you define what is large, to the channel.
[01:51] <lenswipe> Gallomimia, it started working again before i got the chance to shut it down
[01:51] <lenswipe> well who kne
[01:51] <lenswipe> knew
[01:51] <Gallomimia> oh well :)
[01:51] <Gallomimia> now i have blackscreen. does any key work?
[01:51] <brontos_> wilee-nilee, The UI is very large compared to all the other apps.  I almost looks like it is displayed at 800x600 resolution.  I can zoom out of the html but not the browser
[01:52] <alfonsojon> Hi
[01:52] <brontos_> wilee-nilee, All other apps look normal
[01:52] <alfonsojon> I'm using Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 14.04 and it's painfully slow
[01:52] <ashley_> hi guys.
[01:52] <alfonsojon> I already went through the usual runaround of disabling plugins & addons
[01:52] <ashley_> i was wondering if anyone can assist?
[01:52] <Gallomimia> !ask
[01:53] <ashley_> alright so i have a pentium D 2GB ram machine and i just put the latest xubuntu, did all the updates but it appears to be sluggish and crashing alot.
[01:55] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Check your hard drive.
[01:55] <alfonsojon> It might be on the verge of failing. I once installed Xubuntu on an old Pentium machine and it ran great at first, only to suddenly become sluggish, slow, and crashy.
[01:55] <alfonsojon> When I checked the HDD with Disks, I found that it had over 200 bad sectors (not good) and that it was failing
[01:56] <JoobusJones> Hey, I've got a graphics issue making my screen be solid black before login. I can't get GRUB to appear, even holding shift at startup, tried USB and PS/2 keyboards. I know it isn't a hardware issue because Windows is working fine.
[01:56] <ashley_> what about it exactly? Its a new 80gb and it was running fine on win vista (slow for obvious reasons) but it ran ok. :/  i'll check it and see the hdd health just incase.
[01:56] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: btw I added you to the friend list, I hope you don't mind. you were just extremely nice and helpful~
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> brontos_, Not me to the channel, more details was the issue. ;)
[02:00] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Can't hurt to check.
[02:00] <alfonsojon> If it continues acting up, I suggest checking your graphics drivers
[02:01] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Looks like I just got back in time to accept that "friends list", OK, Hard drive not recognized. 1st to identify that hard drive -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- with out the drive connected.
[02:02] <ashley_> @Alfonso how do i update to the most recent drivers on linux? sorry im a newbie
[02:03] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: ok. this will be on this computer, btw.
[02:03] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: All of us ubuntu people are nice sorts, TJ- sure was a great help.
[02:04] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: yes he sure was. what was the package to install pastebin again?
[02:05] <seer-of-void> nvm I got it
[02:05] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .
[02:05] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: yeah, I remembered it right after I asked lol
[02:06] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/7540756
[02:07] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: look'n /7540756 .
[02:07] <allen> evening folks
[02:08] <JoobusJones> What steps should I try to troubleshoot a failed boot if I can't get into grub, and all I get is a black screen?
[02:08] <jianhe> 14.04, how can I remove window decoration for specified application?
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, This a fresh install?
[02:09] <JoobusJones> It was installed when 14.04 came out, so no.
[02:09] <allen> Synaptic Manager is in the repository for Ubuntu, so is it save to install stuff using it as well?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: OK, So far there is but the one hard drive installed into that box, lets see what the system sees when the external drive is connected, Connect the drive and -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- once more.
[02:09] <JoobusJones> Things were fine, then a kernel update came out that broke my system I think
[02:09] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: k let me go get it
[02:10] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Is there a way to temporarily specify a second /etc/fstab?
[02:10] <TJ-> seer-of-void: WAIT!!!!
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, Any clue on your part. WE just had a kernel upgrade, if you are running proprietary graphics, they do not follow this upgrade.
[02:10] <seer-of-void> TJ: hrm?
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, Use nicks here as well, I don't just stare at the screen waiting for your answer, this is free help. ;)
[02:11] <TJ-> seer-of-void: *before* you connect the drive, in the terminal, run "tail -n0 -f /var/log/kern.log | tee /tmp/kern.log" .... plug in the disk drive... let the kernel messages stop scrolling, press Ctrl+C to stop the 'tail',  then "pastebinit /tmp/kern.log"
[02:12] <Sachiru> Anyone know how to configure memory limits for ZRAM on ubuntu? There's nothing in the official documentations and if there's anything on the forums about it 2 hours of googling apparently isn't enough.
[02:12] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok, sec
[02:12] <TJ-> seer-of-void: that'll let us know what is happening on the driver level
[02:12] <seer-of-void> ok }:)
[02:12] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Oh sorry
[02:12] <JoobusJ> wilee-nilee, sorry, was on my phone which made it difficult to respond
[02:12] <alfonsojon> I was on another channel
[02:12] <ashley_> its ok
[02:12] <alfonsojon> You're on Xubuntu, correct?
[02:12] <ashley_> correct
[02:13] <alfonsojon> 14.04?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> TJ-: seer-of-void Sure has a way of cutting directly do the bone, do he not ?
[02:13] <JoobusJones> wilee-nilee, I'm running proprietary AMD drivers, and I'd revert to the FOSS Radeon drivers if I could get into a shell
[02:13] <ashley_> yes
[02:13] <alfonsojon> Alright
[02:13] <JoobusJones> Holding shift doesn't get me into GRUB though, trying both USB and PS/2 keyboards.
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, Have you adjusted the grub timeout?
[02:14] <alfonsojon> Go to the menu
[02:14] <alfonsojon> Then open the settings
[02:14] <JoobusJones> wilee-nilee, I can't even get into a place where I can adjust that; it's whatever the default is. Even if I hold shift from the second my BIOS start loading I can't get in
[02:14] <alfonsojon> In the settings, look for "Software & Updates"
[02:14] <TJ-> JoobusJones: is the keyboard USB?
[02:14] <JoobusJones> TJ-, I've tried both USB and PS/2 keyboards
[02:14] <JoobusJones> Had issues like that in the past, so now I keep a PS/2 keyboard around
[02:14] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: why, whatever do you mean
[02:15] <ashley_> ok got it
[02:15] <TJ-> JoobusJones: I've found on some systems, you have to repeatedly tap the Shift key for it to be detected - don't understand why, since the keyboard controller is supposed to set a bit when the shift key is down and leave it that way!
[02:15] <alfonsojon> then go to the "Additional Drivers" tab
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, If it is booting you can use a tty, power on wait about the time it took to get to the login than ctrl-alt-f1 login and doo the voodoo you need t do.
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> to*
[02:15] <alfonsojon> It should tell you if any proprietary drivers are available
[02:15] <alfonsojon> If it's empty, then you don't have any driver updates.
[02:15] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: I just admire the style .. direct and to the point.. to KNOW what is going on at the hardware level.
[02:16] <ashley_> ok. seems to say "No drivers available" :(
[02:16] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Is your system up to date?
[02:16] <JoobusJones> wilee-nilee, Will that give me a shell?
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, Yes
[02:16] <JoobusJones> Fantastic.
[02:16] <ashley_> what do you mean by up to date? i did do sudo apt-get update.
[02:16] <JoobusJones> I came to Ubuntu from Fedora, which has the GRUB menu show up by default, even with only one OS installed
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, TJ- has a good point on the tapping.
[02:16] <alfonsojon> ashley_: After that, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:17] <JoobusJones> wilee-nilee, I'll give that a try, both cases, and I'll get back to you
[02:17] <alfonsojon> If you don't want to use the terminal, you can use "Software Updater"
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> cool
[02:17] <alfonsojon> It's in your applications
[02:17] <Speiros> Is there a method of editing my android phone through any packages on Ubuntu?
[02:17] <ashley_> ok just did it
[02:17] <ashley_> nothing new thou
[02:17] <resno> Speiros: editing like what?
[02:17] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Well, when stuff crashes
[02:17] <alfonsojon> Can you tell me what exactly crashes?
[02:17] <Speiros> resno I'd like to remove the pre-installed apps, such as facebook.
[02:18] <ashley_> its usually only fireforx
[02:18] <alfonsojon> ah.
[02:18] <ashley_> fox*
[02:18] <Speiros> resno also turning off the camera "click" sound
[02:18] <ashley_> but, it freezes the whole computer
[02:18] <alfonsojon> Firefox runs like crap for me too, so it might be a Firefox problem
[02:18] <resno> Speiros: sure if you root it, etc. this is not an ubuntu question though
[02:18] <alfonsojon> I have a Core 2 Quad & 8GB DDR3 RAM
[02:18] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: it's a specialty of mine to be as clear as possible~
[02:18] <alfonsojon> So it should run fine
[02:18] <ashley_> ahh okay, i'll try another browser and see if that works.
[02:18] <alfonsojon> But it doesn't
[02:18] <resno> Speiros: the same tools that windows users have linux has always
[02:18] <alfonsojon> Try Midori if you don't mind third-party browsers.
[02:19] <alfonsojon> It's a little unheard of, but it's a fast and feature packed little browser.
[02:19] <Speiros> resno Ok, any suggestions where to go? I'm very useless with this kind of thing.
[02:19] <TJ-> Speiros: Install the Android SDK Tools and use things like "adb"  see http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/tools-notes.html
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> Speiros, Have you been to #android ?
[02:19] <resno> #android would be a great starting place
[02:19] <Speiros> TJ- Thanks, I'll try that.
[02:20] <resno> and i would suggest researching what you're intending to do.. its possible to brick you phone Speiros
[02:20] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: That too is an admirable trait, I an sadly lacking in my communications skills. Something I do try and work on.
[02:20] <Speiros> wilee-nilee Yes, but it was another program to download to my phone when I can't find the first one
[02:20] <Speiros> resno what does bricking it mean?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> Speiros, That us a IRC channel
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> is*
[02:20] <resno> Speiros: bricking means, to turn your phone into a brick, aka make it useless
[02:20] <Speiros> resno lol Okay, thanks
[02:20] <lenswipe> hey guys
[02:20] <Speiros> It's almost one already...it'll be a shattered brick soon.
[02:21] <lenswipe> when i installed ubuntu and it asked to configure the network I said "No."
[02:21] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: well thus far you've done well
[02:21] <lenswipe> is there a way to undo that
[02:21] <resno> Speiros: so read guides througjly and stuff. so have fun. and thats all from us :)
[02:21] <lenswipe> i looked in ifconfig and its only showing lo
[02:21] <Speiros> Ok, thanks for your help folks
[02:21] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: TJ: ok I feel like I may or may not have missed something, so just take this & tell me what's what. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540846/
[02:21] <lenswipe> anyone?
[02:21] <resno> lenswipe: youll need to add some stuff to your network config
[02:22] <resno> lenswipe: you going dhcp i suppose?
[02:22] <lenswipe> resno, okay, what and where
[02:22] <lenswipe> and yes
[02:22] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Look'n at 7540846 .
[02:22] <lenswipe> resno, it bothers me that nothing except loopback is showing up in ifconfig
[02:22] <ashley_> just crashed
[02:22]  * DoMPatoneS clear
[02:23] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Nope, same same as the 'fdisk -lu' output. try again .
[02:23] <resno> lenswipe: if you dont configure the network, what would you expect to show up?
[02:23] <resno> it did as you asked
[02:24] <TJ-> seer-of-void: did you also manage to capture the kern.log output?
[02:25] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: tj said to run that one tail command and something about when the lines stop running or something but when I ran it, it was doing something but it wasn't showing that it was aside from not having the command line again
[02:25] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: so I'm wondering if that's supposed to happen or if I just misunderstood something
[02:25] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Strange.
[02:25] <ashley_> @alfonso idk whats wrong everything just seems very slow
[02:25] <ashley_> like the way windows move, the menu opening etc
[02:26] <lenswipe> resno, fair enough i suppose
[02:26] <lenswipe> resno, i added auto inhet eth0 to my config file and it seems to be working
[02:26] <lenswipe> its doing dhcp discover anyway
[02:26] <lenswipe> :)
[02:26] <resno> lenswipe: ya, i was looking for the config file, and its not were i expected it
[02:27] <lenswipe> resno, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[02:27] <resno> so i was slightly lost :(
[02:27] <lenswipe> i just did that
[02:27] <resno> oh, 10.04
[02:27] <lenswipe> specifically
[02:27] <lenswipe> auto eth0
[02:27] <lenswipe> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:27] <lenswipe> followed by sudo ifup eth0
[02:27] <resno> i think its different in 14.04
[02:27] <lenswipe> oh really?
[02:27] <lenswipe> im on 14.04
[02:27] <resno> seems like it to me
[02:27] <lenswipe> but that seems to be working
[02:27] <lenswipe> :/
[02:27] <resno> what version you using?
[02:27] <lenswipe> its doing lots of dhcpdiscovers though
[02:27] <lenswipe> resno, 14.04
[02:27] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: What we are doing is trying to capture the content of the action to a file "kern.log" and relay that file to us.
[02:28] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Did you press Ctrl+C to stop the 'tail' ? If so, check if the log was captured by doing "ls -l /tmp/kern.log" and checking the size in bytes... it should be non-zero
[02:28] <JoobusJones> Fantastic, thanks for the help, wilee-nilee!
[02:29] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok hang on I'll just do it again
[02:29] <JoobusJones> I was able to restore my old xorg.conf and get rid of fgrlx via command line, I'll be putting ctrl+alt+F1 in my long term memory alongside REISUB
[02:29] <TJ-> seer-of-void: if the file is 0 bytes or doesn't exist, we'll have to do it the hard way, just do "tail -n 2000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[02:29] <seer-of-void> TJ: I press ctrl+c  after I plug it in?
[02:29] <resno> lenswipe: so the wierd thing is, i have loopback only there too
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, that is weird
[02:30] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Only press Ctrl+C once the messages have stopped scrolling... Ctrl+C is the 'break' key that stops the command and returns you to the command line
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, well eth0 is in my config
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, or rather, its appearing in my ifconfig now
[02:30] <lenswipe> but it has no IP :
[02:30] <lenswipe> :/
[02:30] <resno> its all good then
[02:30] <alfonsojon> ashley_: I have an option for you
[02:30] <alfonsojon> It might not fix your problem entirely, but it should help
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, except it cant get an IP
[02:30] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok but what I was saying before was that there wasn't anything scrolling when I did it that first time. I'll do it again now & see if there is anything
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, it just sits there sending out DHCPDISCOVER requests
[02:30] <resno> do a down then an up
[02:30] <lenswipe> okay
[02:31] <lenswipe> resno, DHCPDISCOVER
[02:31] <TJ-> seer-of-void: OK... that tells us that nothing happened then!
[02:31] <lenswipe> ...and again
[02:31] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Are you connecting the drive via USB?
[02:31] <alfonsojon> Open settings, then go to "Window Manager Tweaks"
[02:31] <lenswipe> loads more
[02:31] <alfonsojon> Uncheck "Enable display compositing"
[02:31] <seer-of-void> TJ: if you mean generally, yes. if you mean did I yet, I just did now
[02:32] <seer-of-void> TJ: no scrolling yet
[02:32] <TJ-> seer-of-void: You'd expect to see about 10-20 lines from the kernel as it discovers and configures the device
[02:33] <lenswipe> resno, still DHCPDISCOVER
[02:33] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Is the device a USB external hard drive? can you tell us the make/model?
[02:33] <lenswipe> resno, this machine has 3 network cards
[02:34] <resno> do you know which one is connected for usre?
[02:35] <seer-of-void> TJ: it's technically an internal rigged to--AH! we have messages
[02:35] <lenswipe> resno, is there a way to check what hardware eth0 is bound to?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, no problem.
[02:35] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok a bunch of messages scrolled, I press ctrl+c now yes?
[02:35] <resno> lenswipe: sure, i dont konw how tho
[02:36] <resno> lenswipe: maybe lspci might help
[02:36] <wynn_> what is the package for kernel headers?
[02:37] <lenswipe> resno, just got No working leases in persistant database - sleeping
[02:37] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Yes
[02:38] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok and you wanted the readout of which command again?
[02:40] <knob> Hey guys... got an odd question:   I have WordPress installed.   I have a plugin that provides sftp uploads.   I created a user account, and I'm able to ssh into the box with this user account.      Yet when I provide the login details to the plugin, it throws an error.
[02:40] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: did you - before pligging in the drive do terminal command -> "tail -n0 -f /var/log/kern.log | tee /tmp/kern.log <- .
[02:40] <TJ-> seer-of-void: "pastebinit /tmp/kern.log"
[02:40] <knob> The odd part is, that the plugin says username/password incorrect... yet when I check the   auth.log       , it actually logged in just fine.
[02:40] <seer-of-void> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540919/
[02:40] <knob> It logs in, and within the second, logs out.           That's why it leads me to believe maybe it's an environment variable of the user I creatd?
[02:40] <knob> *created
[02:40] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: yes
[02:41] <DoMPatoneS> you dont have the correct permissions on the foler tha tit logs into
[02:41] <knob> Any thoughts what I could be missing?
[02:41] <TJ-> lenswipe: "lshw -C net" will show you the hardware devices and their "logical name: ethX"
[02:41] <knob> DoMPatoneS, thanks!   What I did was    ... this new user, I added it to a new group.         Then I gave   chown newUser:newGroup directory/
[02:42] <DoMPatoneS> if you are chrooting the base folder needs to be owned by root
[02:42] <TJ-> seer-of-void: OK, those messages are from the wireless LAN rekeying
[02:42] <knob> So I *think* I'm goog?          Any idea what... Well, I'm a n00b at this.        Maybe the plugin gets sent to a
[02:42] <knob> oh
[02:42] <knob> googling chrooting now
[02:42] <TJ-> seer-of-void: So, tell us exactly what this hard drive is, and how it is connected to the system
[02:42] <lenswipe> TJ-, thank you
[02:42] <lenswipe> resno, i changed it
[02:43] <DoMPatoneS> the easiest way that i can think is chown the base folder to root and link the folder u need and chown to the user
[02:43] <knob> DoMPatoneS, ok... and link... a symlink of those?
[02:45] <SuperNoeMan> if I wanted to create my own software and put it on ubuntu repositories so that others could install it with apt-get
[02:45] <dog_> hi
[02:45] <SuperNoeMan> how would I do that?
[02:45] <dog_> when I change my brightness in system settings, it resets to max after a reboot. How can I fix this?
[02:45] <seer-of-void> TJ: it's basically an internal hard drive that's plugged into a thing to make it external, so it can be used by usb. I used it plenty of times back and forth between mine and my father's laptops, and there were never any problems. one day after unmounting and unplugging it from my father's laptop, I plugged it into mine and it just never showed up. it recognizes that it's being plugged in, you feel the drive spinning and everyth
[02:45] <seer-of-void> ing, but it never shows up in the menu.
[02:45] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: upstream is the easiest
[02:45] <DoMPatoneS> knob -> mount --bind olddir newdir chow user:user
[02:46] <knob> 10-4
[02:46] <knob> ok...
[02:46] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: upstream?
[02:46] <SuperNoeMan> what's that?
[02:47] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: debian is upstream
[02:47] <SuperNoeMan> I just started checking out launchpad
[02:47] <SuperNoeMan> ah ok
[02:47] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: the quickest way to get what you are saying..quickest and easiest, is to get your software into debian upstream.. it trickles in, and you apt-get it
[02:47] <TJ-> seer-of-void: " thing to make it external" sounds very suspect to me... so what I will interpret it as is this: You have a SATA drive connected to a SATA-to-USB2 adapter connected to a USB2 port
[02:48] <DrakkenWarr> evening gents, what is the easiest way to block a website with ubuntu
[02:48] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: how do I find out about how to do that?
[02:49] <dog_> DrakkenWarr, you mean like parental controls?
[02:49] <dog_> or in the firewall
[02:49] <SuperNoeMan> "trickles"?
[02:49] <SuperNoeMan> I want to be able to control it real time
[02:49] <resno> DrakkenWarr: easiest is just to do /etc/hosts... but that doesnt really scale
[02:49] <DrakkenWarr> I was trying to do it through the hosts file, but that did not work
[02:49] <seer-of-void> TJ: that's the one. apologies, been at all this for like 6 hours now, I'm getting lazy with names
[02:49] <SuperNoeMan> as in, build it tonight, push it to some apt server somewhere and then download it ASAP
[02:49] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: that will *never* happen..
[02:50] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: unless you are already a MOTU, or a debian developer.. or part of another distro.
[02:50] <TJ-> seer-of-void: I've experienced several of those adapters, and I've had 5 fail so far! I bet if you connect the SATA drive *directly* to the motherboard with a known-good SATA cable, power the system up, that SATA drive will appear
[02:50] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: what about launchpad PPA's?
[02:50] <SuperNoeMan> (I only just read about them)
[02:50] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: what i mean by "trickles", is, it just comes to ubuntu.. you dont need to add it to ubuntu, that would just happen
[02:51] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: a ppa is not what you had asked.. you had asked about getting a package into the repositories
[02:51] <holstein> !ppa
[02:51] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: ppa's are great. thats not going to get a pacakge in the default sources..
[02:51] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: oh, well I don't care about default sources
[02:52] <SuperNoeMan> I just want to be able to apt-get my shit
[02:52] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: please dont curse here
[02:52] <seer-of-void> TJ: it's annoying as hell because 1) that kinda defeats the purpose, 2) I've had this thing for quite a few years and have had no problems. 3) I'm a bit suspicious that my father's laptop might've done something to it because there was something going on with his computer at the time, I think it was malware. And I will cry for days if everything is gone, but I don't think it is. (this hard drive has like 12 years worth of my stu
[02:52] <seer-of-void> ff on it)
[02:52] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: you are welcome and encouraged to do what you like with your software
[02:53] <TJ-> seer-of-void: My first check is always cables and controllers, followed by watching the kernel log to see if the device (or its controller) shows up
[02:53] <TJ-> seer-of-void: So I'm 85% confident a direct connection will work
[02:53] <TJ-> seer-of-void: if it does, simply get another SATA-to-USB2 adapter
[02:54] <seer-of-void> TJ: fun... guess I'm opening up the desktop again.
[02:56] <jianhe> 14.04, how can I remove window decoration for specified application?
[02:56] <alfonsojon> jianhe: black magic
[02:57] <alfonsojon> jianhe: Kidding, you can probably do something with CCSM. Not sure though.
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> jianhe, Specific details help.
[02:57] <jianhe> alfonsojon: CCSM could not doing this because unity plugin conflict with window decoration plugin
[02:59] <alfonsojon> jianhe: Darn.
[02:59] <jianhe> wilee-nilee: I want to remove the window title for a chromium window
[02:59] <knob> Guys, if I modify the   /etc/hosts.allow       .... should I restart a service?         ssh?
[02:59] <alfonsojon> You can do that on XFCE
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> jianhe, Cool, maybe someone can help, I don't use the browser.
[03:00] <jianhe> alfonsojon: I am using unity ...
[03:01] <alfonsojon> jianhe: I know, I just don't know how to do it in Unity.
[03:02] <prepangolin> Hi guys!
[03:03] <prepangolin> I've something problem during using "apt-get update" command.
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, Run it and pastebin all of it.
[03:04] <prepangolin> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540945/ and http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540967/
[03:04] <Gallomimia> TJ-: still no luck getting keyboard on the fussy bios
[03:04] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok I decided I'm not doin all that tonight. I'll try it tomorrow and see what happens
[03:05] <TJ-> seer-of-void: OK, get some rest :)
[03:05] <utopian> hi
[03:05] <TJ-> Gallomimia: not having it in front of me its hard to diagnose further... I'm have slapped the side of the PC *hard* by now though, just on principle :p
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, That is the sources.list
[03:05] <seer-of-void> TJ: indeed. and thanks again for all your help~
[03:06] <Gallomimia> it's a good idea. maybe i'll reseat the cards and drives and cpu
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, You said apt-get update was the issue
[03:07] <prepangolin> wilee-nilee: The former is the error message after "sudo apt-get update" and later is the content of the sources.list file.
[03:07] <fishcooker> i've done apt-get dist-upgrade but because some reason i cancel it
[03:08] <fishcooker> how to delete the downloaded package?
[03:08] <Gallomimia> TJ-: i did stop trying for awhile while it sat at a black screen. i found a problem elsewhere on the network and moved to look at that. i did nmap on my subnet and found a doom backdoor. and the worst part about it is i can't identify the computer that has it :P
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, I see nothing but your sources list which looks fine, hows about actually running the update and showing every single bit.
[03:08] <prepangolin> I say I saw the askubuntu's Q&A already, but still did't spot this issue.
[03:09] <TJ-> Gallomimia: oh that's easy; just block the target's IP at the firewall and wait until someone complains
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, Ah two links hold on my mistake.
[03:10] <Gallomimia> TJ-: it's my private home network. i can't figure out who knows the password to get in thru wifi and has windows
[03:10] <Gallomimia> all the other computers are off :P
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, Hash sums not matching is, what it is, an apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade would help to show. I suspect it is a held package situation which is a partial upgrade which is not a good idea to run.
[03:11] <TJ-> Gallomimia: cycle the passphrase and make it truly random "pwgen -s 16 1"
[03:12] <utopian> hi
[03:12] <Gallomimia> ah you've tripped on my secretive problem. i changed the password for the isp-provided-router months ago and forgot it :P
[03:13] <Gallomimia> right around the same time i stopped geeking out at home all the time and started working 70h per week 3 out of 4 weeks
[03:13] <utopian> hi
[03:13] <utopian> hi
[03:13] <utopian> hi
[03:13] <cfhowlett> utopian ask your ubuntu questions
[03:13] <Stanley00> utopian: please stop that.
[03:13] <utopian> Alright is there anything other thatn apt-get for ubuntulog_
[03:13] <utopian> ubuntu
[03:13] <Gallomimia> or at least don't continue to do it
[03:13] <utopian> I think debian has aptitutde, does ubuntu have that also
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> yes
 Let's me check it.
[03:14] <utopian> Nice
[03:14] <Stanley00> utopian: yes, and apt also :D
[03:14] <cfhowlett> utopian aptitude is available, but apt is the default.  synaptic is also available.
[03:14] <utopian> Awesome -^.^- aptitude was fairly new when I stopped using debian
[03:14] <utopian> My second distro I ever purchased officially was debian woody
[03:14] <utopian> aptitude seems very nice
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> !ot | utfans05
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> utopian, That offtopic was for you, this is support.
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> "just the facts" Joe Friday
[03:22] <troy_cambridge> I am finding myself unable to update.  It says something like apt-get or synaptic is already running.
[03:22] <holstein> troy_cambridge: ok.. kill or close all but one
[03:22] <troy_cambridge> what should I kill in task manager?
[03:23] <holstein> troy_cambridge: dont overthink it.. just close them
[03:23] <troy_cambridge> them equals ?
[03:23] <holstein> troy_cambridge: you can only use one at a time
[03:23] <holstein> troy_cambridge: choose the one you want to use, and close the rest
[03:24] <troy_cambridge> holstein, I have already tried that unsuccesfully
[03:24] <holstein> troy_cambridge: i suggest, if you dont understand, or know where the error is, just reboot the machine, and before running anything, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share errors
[03:24] <troy_cambridge> I'm needing actual advice.
[03:24] <dlimuratdj> Does anyone know what time the phone ubuntu sell? There ubuntutouch official version? What time? How to install ubuntu touch app when there is no network, like android apk, ubuntu has app execution files? Phone
[03:25] <troy_cambridge> ah.  thanks holstein  that's what I was looking for.
[03:25] <cfhowlett> dlimuratdj "when it's done"
[03:25] <holstein> troy_cambridge: you can run "ps aux" and see what it running.. but, you may just find it quicker to reboot
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !touch
[03:25] <Tohsh> I have a clean install of server 14.04 on an intel i5 3rd gen based machine. I am unable to boot normally without the nomodeset flag set on the kernel line in grub. It will attempt to boot and then freeze when adding swap. This has never been an issue in the past on previous releases for me. I have verified my UUIDs match in fstab and blkid. Any idea?
[03:26] <agspy1> My windows computer wont boot off of the ubuntu disc.
[03:26] <holstein> agspy1: correct
[03:27] <holstein> agspy1: ubuntu live disc is not made to boot windows
[03:27] <dlimuratdj> Thank you very much! <3
[03:27] <agspy1> Wait what
[03:28] <agspy1> holstein: I think we are talking about 2 different things.
[03:28] <cfhowlett> !details|agspy1
[03:28] <DoMPatoneS> highlight test
[03:28] <DoMPatoneS> highlight test dompatones
[03:28] <holstein> agspy1: you stated you cannot boot your windows machine.. the ubuntu live disc is not made to boot windows
[03:28] <holstein> agspy1: you can only boot the live environment
[03:29] <DoMPatoneS> dompatones
[03:29] <cfhowlett> DoMPatoneS ask your ubuntu questions
[03:30] <agspy1> Theres not much to elaborate on. I have windows 8. I just downloaded the iso for ubuntu, burned it to a disc. (Actually I burned it twice, once with the extracted files, one without the extracted files) I set my priority to boot off of the disc, just so I could test it out to see if I like it. But it wont recognize either of the discs. It still jjust boots into windows 8.
[03:30] <ergandon> I have ubuntu
[03:30] <dauntl3ss> hey guys, i am trying to update/upgrade my server and when I login I see 7 new packages 7 are security updates. I do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade but this is what happens : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7541117/
[03:31] <cfhowlett> agspy1 you don't "extract" files to make an ubuntu boot disc
[03:31] <Artemis3> agspy1, "extracted files" sounds really not nice
[03:31] <agspy1> Explain what I did wrong. O.o
[03:31] <Artemis3> agspy1, also usb sticks are good for you :)
[03:32] <agspy1> I cant find mine. D: I think my dad broke it. :/
[03:32] <cfhowlett> dauntl3ss it happens.  nothing much to worry about.  Held back packages generally get fixed in fairly quick time
[03:32] <dauntl3ss> cfhowlett: but I only see 3 packages held back the thing says there are 7 -- so that's 4 not being accounted for
[03:32] <dauntl3ss> nothing to worry about too?
[03:32] <dauntl3ss> all are security updates T_T
[03:32] <Artemis3> agspy1, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[03:32] <cfhowlett> dauntl3ss run this command:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> oh yeah that's a big one
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> 222MB
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> and all 7 packages
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> thank you :)
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> is it always reccomended to update the distro?
[03:34] <agspy1> But like I said. I tried it twice, the first time I extracted, felt kinda retarded for doing so. So I burned it again on a brand new disc as just the .iso file.
[03:34] <cfhowlett> dauntl3ss well, security upgrades certainly.
 you may try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, Assuming the disc is bootable, are you aware of the UEFI issues with W8 factory installs?
[03:34] <dauntl3ss> cfhowlett, thanks a mill :)
[03:35] <he1kki> Anyone else have loooong wait before laptop brightness keys actually do anything? Every now and then it can take > 5min before scren suddenly starts to obey all those commands given before
[03:35] <dauntl3ss> pngo_ thank you
[03:35] <cfhowlett> dauntl3ss happy to help
[03:35] <agspy1> It wasnt a factory install. I did all possible research on this before coming here. This is a windows 7 machine, that I upgraded.
[03:35] <agspy1> So I dont have a UEFI option in my BIOS
[03:35] <holstein> agspy1: i would take the media to another machine. then, you will have a more broad data point
[03:36] <holstein> agspy1: you dont have the option? or you have no restrictions?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, Cool, an important isue 99% of the time with W8. Are you aware of the boot menu outside the bios?
[03:36] <agspy1> Uhhhh... I guess not?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, On the bios boot splash it tells you the keys to hit.
[03:37] <agspy1> holstein: I have the bios for windows 7. I can set the priorities for boot. Thats it. No UEFI
[03:38] <agspy1> wilee: 1.) Mine boots so quick you wouldnt be able to read them. 2.) From the thousands of times ive tried to see which buttons, I dont believe they say anything besides "F12 for Network Boot"
[03:38] <Sohron> agspy1: there is no bios for windows 7, BIOS is universal for all OS's
[03:38] <cfhowlett> agspy1 really suggest you stop; go to the store, buy a 4 GB or larger USB and make your bootable media.  LOT less painful that burning CD's ... and NO EXTRACTION required
[03:38] <holstein> agspy1: if you have another machine, you can see if the media boots there.. you cant just copy the data over to the cd.. you have to do an image copy, using the iso as the source
[03:39] <agspy1> I know.
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, A menu you want to know, look it up on the web, it is a per-session boot, I have seen it listed in manuals, which are also on the web.
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, This will prove whether it is the disc or not.
[03:40] <cfhowlett> agspy1 look in your computer documentation or on the OEM support site to find your bios menu command
[03:42] <JoobusJones> Hey!
[03:42] <Fuhrmann> Hey
[03:42] <cfhowlett> JoobusJones ask your ubuntu questions
[03:42] <JoobusJones> I'm trying to compile an OpenGL application, but ld is telling me that it can't find -lGL; I have confirmed that libGL.so exists and that I have libgl1-mesa-dev installed and updated.
[03:43] <agspy1> Sohron: Actually there are different BIOS. On a computer that had w8 preinstalled you have the option to mess with the UEFI. On mine it does not. :)
[03:43] <_2_sabrinahotgir> hi
[03:43] <JoobusJones> Every article I've found about my problem (like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18406369/qt-cant-find-lgl-error) have had solutions that are unhelpful
[03:44] <holstein> agspy1: you think its the iso that you downloaded?
[03:44] <Sohron> agspy1: but the basic input/output system is the sam agspy1
[03:44] <holstein> !md5 | agspy1
[03:44] <holstein> agspy1: you think its the DVD you have made? can you get to the integrety check? if not, have you tried booting it on other hardware?
[03:45] <agspy1> There are so many responses I dont know where to start
[03:46] <Sohron> agspy1: forget me then, i've got nothing musch to offer others have already stated
[03:46] <Sohron> much*
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, We all have been there, ask questions if it helps.
[03:47] <cfhowlett> agspy1 start here: VERIFY your downloaded ISO.  YES, verify, YES every time.   THEN verify the boot media you create with the ISO.  holstein sent you md5sum link.
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, preface whom your asking with their nick, the tab will complete nicks, tyoe a few letters of one hit the tab.
[03:47] <JoobusJones> Any ideas on why I'd be unable to locate lGL even with libgl1-mesa-dev installed?
[03:48] <holstein> JoobusJones: maybe something hard-coded in ubuntu that is not in the place that is expected
[03:48] <agspy1> holstein: I am currently looking at the md5. It being extremely early in the morning, I am finding it hard to understand. .-.
[03:49] <JoobusJones> holstein: I feel like I had this working not long ago; I just installed the latest fglrx driver and now things are weird
[03:49] <JoobusJones> holstein: libGL.so is in a sane place and properly linked up
[03:49] <holstein> agspy1: you get the sum of the iso you downloaded.. and match it with the sum of the one on the site
[03:50] <holstein> JoobusJones: use the repo version
[03:51] <JoobusJones> holstein: of fglrx?
[03:51] <JoobusJones> That's stuck on like 13.x still, and doesn't even support 14.04, lol
[03:51] <JoobusJones> Only the latest beta release of fglrx supports 14.04 and OpenGL 4.4
[03:52] <agspy1> They are the same.
[03:52] <agspy1> Whoops.
[03:52] <holstein> JoobusJones: 14.04 has a version..
[03:53] <JoobusJones> holstein: AMD's proprietary drivers don't officially support 14.04 until 14.6, which is presently in beta
[03:53] <holstein> JoobusJones: if you want one that doesnt come from ubuntu, you have to seek support where it comes from.
[03:53] <agspy1> holstein: "MD5 Check Sums are the same"
[03:53] <JoobusJones> It's not the driver issue
[03:53] <JoobusJones> It's ubuntu being silly about something
[03:54] <cfhowlett> holstein so you checked BOTH the downloaded ISO and the CD?
[03:54] <holstein> agspy1: ok.. so, now you move on to the media you created.. can you get to the integrity check? have you tried it on another machine?
[03:55] <agspy1> holstein: I dont own another machine. Its only me and my laptop
[03:55] <holstein> agspy1: can you get to the integrity check on the media you created?
[03:56] <holstein> agspy1: you dont have to "own" the machine to boot the media on it.. thats why i didnt ask you how many computers you owned.. i asked if you had tried the live media on another machine.. and that answer is no? correct?
[03:56] <agspy1> holstein: Thats exactly what im saying.
[03:56] <holstein> agspy1: you made the DVD? correct? and *onlhy* tried booting it on your one laptop? correct?
[03:56] <agspy1> Yep
[03:56] <holstein> agspy1: how about this? have you tried the integrity check?
[03:57] <agspy1> No idea what youre talking about. :)
[03:57] <holstein> agspy1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[03:58] <holstein> agspy1: then say so.. or ask.. will you please try running the integrity check on the media and let the volunteers here know if you are not able to run it, or get to that menu?
[03:59] <agspy1> holstein: Ok. I cant get to the menu.
[04:01] <Sohron> agspy1: what boot orded do you have set in BIOS?
[04:02] <agspy1> Optical drive, external, network, hard drive
[04:02] <Sohron> okay
[04:02] <Sohron> no problemo there
[04:02] <Sohron> you should really checksum the dvd agspy1
[04:04] <agspy1> Sohron: I am looking at the BootFromCD page. How am I supposed to checksum if the files look like the first picture?
[04:05] <Sohron> agspy1: if you don't know how to checksum a dvd in windows, i can't help, i haven't used windows for ten years
[04:06] <pantsareoff> Ubuntu 14.04 - Wifi problems - Qualcomm chipset - Keeps disconnecting.
[04:08] <newshound> maybe this isn't the place, but the nicklist in ubuntu is huge for the nicklist buffer in weechat-curses -- any way to resolve this issue?
[04:11] <TARDISGuy> Help. My wifi keeps falling asleep.
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> newshound, #weechat maybe
[04:11] <newshound> okay
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> !details | TARDISGuy To the channel
[04:13] <newshound> TARDISGuy: maybe change your power management settings
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> newshound, There is no sleep for wifi.
[04:16] <newshound> maybe he is using a laptop?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> they are gone
[04:17] <alex_> How do I go about installing something from the PPA?
[04:17] <alex_> For isntance, I have this link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> newshound, Maybe, is why I asked the bot to phish for details
[04:17] <alex_> But I don't know how to install it from there. Instructions are not on the page.
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | alex_
[04:18] <alex_> wilee-nilee: that doesn't answer my question. I know what a PPA is.
[04:18] <wilee-nilee>  PPAs are unsupported third-party packages,
[04:18] <TARDISguy> Dont be going all wilee-nilee on us.
[04:18] <alex_> That's fine. I'd like to install the latest version of tmux from the official PPA.
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> alex_, Cool, go for it, technically we don;t help with that, however someone may, help if you keep a good attitude. ;)
[04:22] <alex_> wilee-nilee: okay, thanks.
[04:25] <Bashing-om> alex_: see if this helps : http://www.sitepoint.com/tmux-a-simple-start/ .
[04:27] <wrenthief> holy smoke thats a lota people in hee
[04:27] <wrenthief> here
[04:28] <Bashing-om> alex_: Found out PPA : https://launchpad.net/~svetlyak40wt/+archive/tmux ...
[04:29] <wrenthief> awfully quiet in here
[04:30] <wrenthief> oh well ,enjoy life folks
[04:32] <syeekick> alot of my executables like mumble, firefox, steam keep crashing
[04:33] <syeekick> i have no idea how to fix these issues, i tried re-installing them
[04:33] <syeekick> ubuntu 14.04
[04:34] <holstein> you can try running them from the command line, and see if there is helpful output.. try running them as another user.. or as the guest user, or whatever to remove your configurtation from the equation
[04:34] <holstein> syeekick: ^
[04:35] <syeekick> thanks dude
[04:35] <syeekick> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:36] <syeekick> google chrome
[04:36] <holstein> syeekick: go with supported applications
[04:36] <holstein> syeekick: or, start there..
[04:36] <syeekick> http://pastebin.com/F5N7pgq3
[04:37] <syeekick> syee@syee:~$ mumble
[04:37] <syeekick> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:37] <syeekick> fack
[04:37] <holstein> syeekick: i would try as another user. and test my hard drive and ram as well
[04:37] <TARDISguy> Google Chrome not playing Audio on YouTube: Easy fix?
[04:38] <holstein> TARDISguy: ask them.. it literally just works here. out of the box
[04:38] <holstein> TARDISguy: maybe you are overriding the included flash
[04:39] <TARDISguy> @holstein 1. Installed 14.04 on MDADM, 2. apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras 3. google chrome through dpkg -i
[04:40] <Kazi_> Hi, I have tried finger command but did not get what I am looking for. I am trying to list servers name that particular user has a access. Is there any commands like that?
[04:44] <syeekick> getting some serious internal errors throughout my system too
[04:45] <Radon_3> hi fellas, can i ask a question about calibre in this channel?
[04:45] <Radon_3> calibre on ubuntu
[04:45] <TARDISguy> @holstein chromium browser works. I guess thats fine. But I was having massive Keyboard lag before reinstall
[04:46] <Radon_3> ?
[04:49] <phunyguy> Radon_3, ifit is on Ubuntu, go forit
[04:49] <phunyguy> for it*
[04:49] <primepie> is there a reason why environment variables set in /etc/environment don't propagate anymore in trusty ?
[04:51] <saeedullah> Hello All friend
[04:53] <Radon_3_> phunyguy: thank you, yes it sorta does, I have set my system proxy settings in ubuntu to use a local proxy, and I expect calibre to fetch the info using that proxy, but it seems calibre is not willing to use system wide proxy cause it is still not capable to fetche the info from some news sources
[04:53] <Radon_3_> what should I do?
[04:54] <phunyguy> some apps simply cannot use a proxy without being tricked into doing so.
[04:54] <phunyguy> I can't remember the names of them, but there are some socks proxy wrapper apps out there
[04:54] <phunyguy> basically runs the app within a wrapper that redirects all traffic from it through a socks proxy of your choosing.
[04:55] <Bsims> hey phunyguy, I just set up alpine with a zenburn theme just to read gmail... I can't decide if thats geeky or just lame
[04:55] <phunyguy> oh...k...?
[04:55] <Radon_3_> yeah, I have read in the calibre manual that I should use the http_proxy switch but I just don't know how. I am trying to figure it out...
[04:55] <Bsims> heh a text based email client
[04:55] <phunyguy> oh, so it is in the Calibre docs...
[04:55] <Radon_3_> by the way I have been almost a month off windows, thank you ubuntu
[04:56] <Radon_3_> <3 I am so proud this is the best day of my life
[04:56] <phunyguy> Radon_3_, typically in Ubuntu the proxy settings do all that for you
[04:56] <newshound> Radon_3_: *claps*
[04:56] <phunyguy> can you pastebin the output of `export | grep http`?
[04:56] <newshound> Bsims: have you tried mutt?
[04:57] <Radon_3_> phunyguy: yeah that is whatI hoped would happen like it has happened in the past, but I think a restart might do the trick, I am goiung for it
[04:57] <phunyguy> this conversation is becoming a bit offtopic
[04:57] <phunyguy> ok
[04:57] <Saeedullah_> Hello All friend how r you
[04:57] <phunyguy> hello!
[04:58] <Saeedullah_> is ubuntu linux demage the viruse?
[04:58] <phunyguy> I don't know what that means :(
[04:58] <Saeedullah_> i mean other operating system need Anivirus for OS
[04:59] <Saeedullah_> linux need for Aniviruse Installation?
[04:59] <phunyguy> Saeedullah_, typically antivirus programs on Linux are mainly to scan windows drives.
[04:59] <phunyguy> there aren't many virus for Linux, no.
[05:00] <Saeedullah_> it linux Operating system demage the virus or not?
[05:00] <phunyguy> I don't know what "demage" means
[05:00] <Saeedullah_> demage means destory
[05:01] <phunyguy> ok, I still don't know what you are trying to asl.
[05:01] <phunyguy> ask*
[05:01] <Saeedullah_> my question is that
[05:01] <phunyguy> Saeedullah_, what is your native language? maybe there is a LoCo channel that would be better suited?
[05:01] <Saeedullah_> when some time the win xp have virus
[05:02] <Saeedullah_> then win xp is not  working correctly
[05:02] <Saeedullah_> is it linux have virus?
[05:02] <phunyguy> so you want something that won't catch a virus? Or do you want to use Linux to clean Windows XP?
[05:02] <Sachiru> Not to be a grammar nazi, but it's "damage"
[05:02] <Saeedullah_> my native language is pashto
[05:02] <Sachiru> Not "demage"
[05:02] <Saeedullah_> yes
[05:03] <phunyguy> Sachiru, there is a definite language barrier here. Let's not do that.
[05:03] <Sachiru> And although linux has viruses, they are very rare and very limited in what they can damage.
[05:04] <phunyguy> Saeedullah_, I think Ubuntu is what you want.  Install it and try it out!
[05:05] <Sachiru> Anyhow, viruses do not cross-infect
[05:05] <Sachiru> A virus that is designed for windows will not do anything when placed on a Linux system, and vice versa
[05:06] <Sachiru> And since 95% of all viruses out there are designed for windows, using Linux means that by default you are protected from 95% of all viruses, even without antivirus software.
[05:07] <Sachiru> Of course Antivirus software for linux exists (ClamAV), but it exists mainly for servers where data is shared with Windows machines, so that if a virus somehow gets onto the Windows share it doesn't affect everyone attempting to access the share (that and other similar use cases).
[05:07] <phunyguy> and we lost him
[05:07] <Sachiru> And yep
[05:07] <Sachiru> Must be bad afghan internet
[05:07] <phunyguy> probably.
[05:08] <phunyguy> you are 100% correct by the way.
[05:08] <phunyguy> well said.
[05:08] <vilambit> afghan internel LOL
[05:08] <vilambit> internet*
[05:09] <phunyguy> ok, let's move on.
[05:10] <Sachiru> WEll
[05:10] <Sachiru> I'd contend the 95% figure
[05:10] <Sachiru> I'm thinking more along the lines of 99%, but I don't have citations
[05:11] <phunyguy> unimportant in this topic.
[05:11] <Sachiru> Aargh
[05:12] <Sachiru> Two 8GB flash drives configured as RAID1 mirror, LVM on top of them, installing Ubuntu to LVM
[05:12] <Sachiru> No swap space allocated on drives
[05:12] <Sachiru> Still erroring in installation
[05:12] <phunyguy> have you checked your source media for defects?
[05:13] <phunyguy> and is 8GB enough?
[05:13] <phunyguy> RAID1 with two 8 gig drives, still makes 8 gigs of space.
[05:13] <Sachiru> Source media md5 sum checks OK
[05:13] <Sachiru> And it's Lubuntu. Source media is only 600MB in size and official documentation says that the minimum requirements is 4.7 GB
[05:13] <Sachiru> So theoretically it should work.
[05:14] <Barrin6> anyone know of any truecrypt alternatives that works across all platforms? Windows, linux, osx?
[05:14] <vilambit> what's the problem with truecrypt again?
[05:14] <phunyguy> website got hacked
[05:14] <phunyguy> (I think)
[05:14] <vilambit> oh, so its not real?
[05:15] <phunyguy> anyways, Sachiru not sure man.
[05:15] <Barrin6> no one knows yet. It may be hacked, or a dead-man’s switch
[05:15] <vilambit> LOL
[05:15] <Barrin6> their website makes no sense. Telling people to use bitlocker as an alternative lol
[05:15] <phunyguy> yep, and this topic is offtopic.
[05:15] <phunyguy> :)
[05:15] <phunyguy> except for maybe an alternative on ubuntu
[05:16] <Barrin6> yea it is, but I don’t know where else to ask.
[05:16] <phunyguy> well is it for Ubuntu?
[05:16] <phunyguy> What does TrueCryot accomplish?
[05:16] <phunyguy> Crypt*
[05:17] <matux> everyzone
[05:17] <Sachiru> @Barrin: Google "GnuPG" and "GPG4Win"
[05:17] <bazhang> !truecrypt | phunyguy
[05:17] <phunyguy> thanks bazhang
[05:22] <Sachiru> @Barrin: Anyhow the consensus is that only the 7.2 version is suspect
[05:22] <Sachiru> The 7.1 version appears to be clean.
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> #truecrypt vilambit
[05:23] <Sachiru> Current theories is that "We believe that there is either a power conflict in the dev team or psychological issues, coersion of some form, or a hacker with access to site and keys."
[05:24] <Saeedullah> what is GNU Stand?
[05:24] <phunyguy> Saeedullah, you mean what does it stand for?
[05:24] <phunyguy> as in what is the acronym?
[05:25] <Saeedullah> yes
[05:25] <phunyguy> GNU's Not Unix
[05:25] <Saeedullah> GNU's Not Unix ok but what is GNU?
[05:25] <hunt> hey guys, im trying to install amd drivers for my card, but the catalyst control center (administrative) fails immediately after the prompt for password no matter what i input
[05:26] <hunt> the regular catalyst ontrol center runs fie
[05:26] <Ben64> Saeedullah: http://www.gnu.org/
[05:26] <phunyguy> Saeedullah, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[05:26] <ben14> Saeedullah:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU
[05:26] <vilambit> Saeedullah: GNU's Not Unix
[05:27] <phunyguy> hunt, where did you get the amd drivers?
[05:27] <hunt> apt-get
[05:27] <ben14> Saeedullah:  G = GNU , N = Not , U = Unix
[05:27] <Saeedullah> thanx dear all of you now i am checking about GNU
[05:27] <phunyguy> hunt, hmm, maybe a bug report needs to be filed.
[05:27] <Sachiru> It's a recursive acronym
[05:28] <ben14> No problem :)
[05:28] <Sachiru> Kinda like PHP
[05:28] <Sachiru> Means nothing at all.
[05:28] <Saeedullah> ben14 dose it right
[05:28] <phunyguy> so much offtopic....
[05:28] <Saeedullah> G = GNU , N = Not , U = Unix
[05:28] <Sachiru> As I sad
[05:28] <Sachiru> *said
[05:28] <hunt> phunguy: that sucks! i mean i honestly am not going to change anything at the moment but damn i wish i had the option! also the entire catalyst system is very not-unixy
[05:28] <Sachiru> Recursive acronym
[05:28] <phunyguy> can we please keep the discussion ubuntu support related?
[05:29] <mchid> sometimes aptitude is needed to resolve dependency issues for amd (nvidia) graphics I don't know if that applies
[05:29] <Saeedullah> recursive acronym  means?
[05:29] <phunyguy> Saeedullah, please, enough.
[05:30] <vilambit> Saeedullah: lol
[05:30] <ben14> Saeedullah: Google is your friend, please use it :)
[05:30] <vilambit> Saeedullah: now research WINE and you'll start to get it :P
[05:30] <Saeedullah> dear i want to know about Ubuntu
[05:30] <Saeedullah> i interst to learne it
[05:30] <phunyguy> so ask your Ubuntu question please.
[05:30] <Ben64> Saeedullah: you've not asked a single ubuntu related support question yet. please keep this channel clear for that purpose
[05:30] <phunyguy> please keep in mind this is a support channel.
[05:31] <Saeedullah> ok
[05:32] <phunyguy> Everyone: There is an offtopic channel at #ubuntu-offtopic for general banter.
[05:33] <Saeedullah> what is the ubuntu command syntax for command?
[05:35] <mahesh_> I want to install cadence in ubuntu
[05:35] <mahesh_> any one know that
[05:35] <hunt> so now that i have this new driver my games are broken :'(
[05:35] <hunt> the whole catalyst situation is far too sketchy
[05:35] <mahesh_> ritesh, hi
[05:36] <holstein> mahesh_: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Repositories for ubuntu sources to kxstudio having cadence and others. try #opensourcemusicians
[05:36] <holstein> hunt: the games are fine.. the new driver is not supporting the 3d that the games require
[05:37] <hunt> holstein: how is that my previously driver free computer has better 3d support then the proprietary one
[05:37] <mahesh_> holstein, i am not getting any thing on that website
[05:37] <mahesh_> where i can download
[05:37] <holstein> hunt: the open driver can provide 3d
[05:37] <holstein> mahesh_: you can download wherever the creator provides a download. but the site i linked has sources, PPA's, that have cadence and others
[05:38] <gomaaz> hi threre
[05:38] <hunt> holstein: 3d still works but gmod crashes
[05:38] <hunt> holstein: how do i get the open drivers btw? are they better than the standards?
[05:38] <holstein> hunt: the open ones are just in the kernel.. they are not "better" or "worse".. they are different
[05:38] <mahesh_> holstein, thanks for your copertion
[05:38] <mahesh_> am getting
[05:39] <hunt> holstein: the open ones are already installed? the problem with the open ones is there very inefficient and seem to run my gpu fan at max always
[05:39] <hunt> holstein: the problem with the proprietary one is that it fucks up a lot of the graphics
[05:39] <phunyguy> please watch the language
[05:40] <hunt> phunyguy sorry forgot this was an official channel
[05:40] <holstein> hunt: not really.. the problem with proprietary graphics and hardware that do not promise linux support is that they can be not all that great
[05:40] <phunyguy> hunt, no worries :)
[05:40] <hunt> holstein: im telling you based on whats happening
[05:41] <hunt> holstein: this is literally whats happenning
[05:41] <holstein> hunt: im not doubting you one bit
[05:41] <hunt> holstein: ... "not really" ...
[05:41] <holstein> hunt: im just explaining why the driver can be not providing you 3d support.. you werent promised 3d support
[05:41] <holstein> hunt: if the open driver works better for you, i suggest using it
[05:42] <N300ZX> Is there a way to get CPU temp in Ubuntu without installing LM-sensors
[05:42] <N300ZX> NIC isn't working so I need something built in
[05:42] <phunyguy> N300ZX, you need software to interact with the sensors.
[05:43] <mahesh_> holstein,  i getting tar.xz file for Cadence how can i install in ubuntu
[05:43] <hunt> holstein: i dont know ... either way im getting lower fps then on windows as far as i can tell. ideally i just want a fast driver that works. how frequently are the open drivers updated?
[05:43] <phunyguy> mahesh_, read the readme that comes with the tar
[05:43] <phunyguy> mahesh_, they are all different.
[05:44] <holstein> hunt: sure. you were promised windows support for the hardware.. so, windows performance will likely be better
[05:44] <holstein> hunt: if you say the open one worked better, use it.. they are updated as needed.. and when changes come
[05:45] <holstein> hunt: i understand that you want a fast driver that works, and ubuntu nor linux are preventing AMD from providing you with that
[05:46] <hunt> holstein: if only the open driver didnt misuse my electronics!!!
[05:46] <holstein> hunt: you said it worked
[05:46] <wols> hunt: the "gpu fan at max always" isn't true anymore
[05:46] <phunyguy> hunt, maybe you can get a full refund for what you paid for that driver :(
[05:47] <phunyguy> (the free one)
[05:47] <hunt> wols: how do i update it? it still sounds like its at max to me
[05:47] <phunyguy> the point is, you paid for the AMD hardware, AMD should provide you the proper driver to make it work, or the ability for the Linux kernel devs to write a proper driver
[05:48] <hunt> phunyguy: true, they should, but im trying to be practical here, im not going to get that from amd. im really just looking for a solution for my own problems
[05:48] <phunyguy> hunt, well, that is where we stand.
[05:48] <holstein> hunt: practical is the company that makes the hardware supporting it.. ubuntu is not blocking that
[05:48] <phunyguy> the drivers are closed source.  That is the best we can do.
[05:49] <hunt> i mean personally practical, i have no influence over what amds doing, im just trying to work with what i can get
[05:49] <holstein> hunt: your problem is just that.. amd is doing what they promised you.. providing windows support, not linux
[05:49] <phunyguy> hunt, then you are stuck with broken 3d, or a high speed fan
[05:49] <hunt> side not, screen shots?
[05:49] <holstein> hunt: you'll routinely make compromises to run systems that are not supported
[05:49] <hunt> (of fullscreen processes)
[05:50] <phunyguy> or give your money to companies that provide proper support for linux
[05:50] <holstein> hunt: i suggest something like system76 in the future, where they take care of this for you
[05:50] <wols> hunt: since kernel 3.13 it's already in the kernel. google for "radeon dpm" to see how it works or how you can enable it
[05:50] <phunyguy> wols, good suggestion if it works
[05:50] <hunt> wols: how do i check my kernel version?
[05:50] <phunyguy> uname -r
[05:50] <phunyguy> (at command line)
[05:51] <phunyguy> if you are on 14.04, then you are on 3.13
[05:52] <hunt> i am on 14.04... it says dpm is enabled by default. why would my fans appear to me running at max or at least far higher then they are with the proprietary driver? if it changes anything the only drivers ive installed so far are the amd ones
[05:52] <holstein> hunt: i have several boxes like that..
[05:52] <hunt> holstein: does dpm just not work properly?
[05:52] <holstein> hunt: i make compromises based on the situation i need
[05:52] <holstein> hunt: ?
[05:52] <holstein> hunt: its the hardware, friend.. its not intended to support linux
[05:52] <wols> hunt: if you have fglrx installed then they are running and not the free ones
[05:53] <holstein> hunt: thats the issue.. i wasnt promised linux support for them.. nothing is broken. .everything is working as intended
[05:53] <shunya_chakra> hi is youtube-dl available in gui?
[05:53] <hunt> wols: my fglrx drivers (which are running right now) are far quieter then the free ones from before i installed this driver
[05:53] <holstein> hunt: one is using the openchrome driver which has gotten *much* better
[05:54] <holstein> !info youtube-dl
[05:54] <wigirc> shunya_chakra, I didn't see this
[05:54] <Gallomimia> error: failure reading sector 0x0  from hd0
[05:54] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, did you drop your computer?
[05:54] <Gallomimia> no
[05:55] <Gallomimia> i'm making a fresh install on a raid5 of 3 drives
[05:55] <Gallomimia> haven't got it to boot yet
[05:55] <shunya_chakra> ok wigirc, yesterday one youtube-dlg sees in some blog... I'm just concern is it official available.
[05:55] <phunyguy> hmmm... do you get any errors during the install?
[05:55] <Gallomimia> but i'm in the middle of working on it and the damn keyboard won't work in basic installer. works fine in grub
[05:55] <holstein> shunya_chakra: ?
[05:55] <Gallomimia> oh yeah dozens
[05:55] <holstein> shunya_chakra: its from the repos, install and use it if you like
[05:56] <Gallomimia> the latest run of installer seemed to work out. i was shocked. i felt naked
[05:56] <shunya_chakra> holstein, youtube-dl gui version
[05:56] <holstein> shunya_chakra: i dont use it.. a web browser is a gui..
[05:56] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, if you are asking for support, some of the errors your are getting would help a ton.
[05:57] <holstein> shunya_chakra: look at the source of what you are talking about and see if you trust it..
[05:57] <pentagonpie> shunya_chakra: youtube-dl allways breaks
[05:57] <Gallomimia> right now, i'm in a grub commandline. i can't even get an installer to run. keyboard stops working soon as anything more complicated than bios control or grub starts
[05:57] <shunya_chakra> holstein, ok
[05:57] <shunya_chakra> pentagonpie, it works good for my unstable itnernet
[05:57] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, but what about in the ubuntu installer?
[05:57] <shunya_chakra> internete
[05:58] <Gallomimia> phunyguy: no it never gets past language selection
[05:58] <Gallomimia> i had it working yesterday
[05:58] <pentagonpie> shunya_chakra: what i meant was, google updates youtube so you wont be able to use youtube-dl
[05:58] <Gallomimia> then i got some bios reset error and it stopped doing that
[05:59] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, have you checked the integrity of the install source?
[05:59] <helmut_> hi
[05:59] <Gallomimia> i guess it might have gotten broken since
[05:59] <wigirc> shunya_chakra, what about flashgot? Does it support?
[05:59] <shunya_chakra> pentagonpie, is there any good alternative
[05:59] <Gallomimia> but i've got two different installers here that fail at the same point, and they've both worked before
[05:59] <phunyguy> weird.  Wish I knew.
[05:59] <shunya_chakra> wigirc, flashgot, i haven't used it.. it got funny name.. :)
[05:59] <Gallomimia> so thats two of us
[06:00] <Gallomimia> 3 or 4 if you count the other people who have examined this problem
[06:00] <pentagonpie> shunya_chakra: from what I understand, youtube-dl developers always update to fix that :)
[06:00] <Gallomimia> im ready to reflash the bios
[06:00] <Ben64> don't do that
[06:00] <Gallomimia> but from all i can see, its the same version as the one i've got already
[06:00] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, it can't hurt.... unless you aren't careful ;)
[06:00] <Gallomimia> yeah
[06:00] <Gallomimia> then it can really hurt :P
[06:00] <Gallomimia> oh well. new mobo i guess
[06:00] <shunya_chakra> yup pentagonpie i also read it in some blog.... always use updated youtube-dl.
[06:00] <phunyguy> ok folks, I need to go to bed.
[06:00] <phunyguy> goodnight
[06:00] <gomaaz> n8
[06:00] <Gallomimia> the one i have now has a dual bios. it claimed corruption
[06:00] <Ben64> try a different keyboard and/or change bios settings
[06:01] <Gallomimia> and copied from the 2nd setup
[06:01] <Ben64> dual bios? is it a gigabyte?
[06:01] <Gallomimia> yeah
[06:01] <Ben64> turn off fast boot
[06:01] <phunyguy> (I have one of those on order)
[06:01] <Gallomimia> oh yeah
[06:01] <phunyguy> ok night
[06:01] <Gallomimia> where the hell is that again?
[06:01] <Gallomimia> they're pretty good boards
[06:01] <Ben64> idk, but it boots so fast it often forgets to enable things like usb
[06:03] <Gallomimia> wait. i just downloaded pdf of manual
[06:03] <Gallomimia> search it ><
[06:05] <vilambit> how do i get mplayer to show the OSD by default?
[06:08] <wigirc> vilambit, if you use nautilus right button, preferences as I remember
[06:11] <vilambit> wigirc: huh?
[06:11] <vilambit> wigirc: what's nautilus have to do with it
[06:11] <vilambit> anyway i found it "--osdlevel=3"
[06:12] <slipperynick> hi, what settings would prevent byubo keyboard shortcuts from working in one terminal program over another?
[06:14] <guest-PMljDO> hello
[06:14] <guest-PMljDO> can you speak german
[06:15] <wigirc> vilambit, oh i read it incorrectly
[06:17] <allen> can i change the window border color in unity, like i can in say Mate or XFCE, or do i have to apply a theme and thats all i have for choices?
[06:24] <bencc> what happens when I put "&" at the end of a line like:
[06:24] <bencc> Xvfb :2 -screen 0 1024x768x24 &
[06:26] <kcbme_> hello, need help with black screen after startup. splash screen is fine, yet no desktop after loading
[06:26] <mdunc_> bencc: that runs the command in the background
[06:27] <bencc> mdunc_:  thanks. this is what I'm using http://dpaste.com/0DH4Q5Z/
[06:27] <mdunc_> bencc: if you wanted to bring that command back to the foreground, use the ‘fg’ command
[06:27] <kcbme_> much praise and worship to the one that makes my life livable again! ;)
[06:27] <bencc> it works and now I'm trying to understand how to use it
[06:28] <bencc> mdunc_: can I run multiple commands in the background?
[06:28] <mdunc_> bencc: yep :)
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, power on and after grub hit the esc key to see the text.
[06:28] <bencc> mdunc_: thanks
[06:29] <pentagonpie> bencc: google linux job control
[06:29] <mdunc_> bencc: another tip, if you forget the &, instead of doing CTRL-C and quitting it, you can use CTRL-Z to pause it and then the ‘bg’ command to run it in the background
[06:29] <kcbme_> i have a black screen after boot up, can anyone help?
[06:30] <bencc> pentagonpie: reading
[06:30] <bencc> mdunc_: thanks
[06:30] <gabinonerdvader> hola alguna chica con culo sediento de sexo
[06:30] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, What?
[06:30] <kcbme_> i see lots of loading text,
[06:31] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee what should i look for?
[06:31] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, Look for errors and or where it stops. Is said you see a splash, is this right after grub?
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> is=you
[06:32] <gabinonerdvader> i want crack wifi wpa in grapick mode, someone know this????
[06:32] <kcbme_> yes, it shows the xubuntu logo with blue background then all balck and the usb drive is done loading
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, I only gave you an option, this does not mean I have any answers.
[06:34] <bencc> on ubuntu server, can I use X server 1 with xvfb or is there something else that use it? "Xvfb :0 -screen 0 1024x768x24 &"
[06:34] <sunil_> helo
[06:35] <gabinonerdvader> vamos putos escriban en español
[06:35] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee ok. well im at that desperate point. :( it started after installing skype, then skype would not let me log in cause it said i was already logged in on the comp. and i installed some i386 libs, then decided to uninstall sype. then on reboot no screen
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> !es | gabinonerdvader
[06:35] <benoror>  Hi! I want to migrate from gpg4usb to gpg command line in ubuntu. I already have a pubring, secring and trustdb generated. any resources on how should I proceed?
[06:36] <sunil_> I need know to that how can i find which one computer is downloading in my office.
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, That would cause a little frustration. ;) Not the end of the world though, so relax a little, this is a slower time on the channel, but sounds fixable.
[06:37] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee i hope so.
[06:37] <kcbme_> i believe upon first ubuntu install many months ago i had similar issues. and the text for the fix is on the desktop which i cant see but i do have access to root and tty
[06:37] <gabinonerdvader> i want crack wpa someone have anything sample to do for this case
[06:38] <sunil_> I need know to that how can i find which one ubuntu computer is downloading in my office
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> gabinonerdvader, wrong channel for that. ;)
[06:38] <pentagonpie> gabinonerdvader: chech kali linux
[06:39] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee thank you, i am a bit flustered. and yes it is probably fixable. sorry for the intensity
[06:39] <wilee-nilee>  kcbme_ This a ssh or on line computer?
[06:40] <Sachiru> @Sunil: I'd recommend that you consult gateway logs for that.
[06:40] <Sachiru> Or use something like pfSense/Zentyal for your gateway
[06:40] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee its my local laptop on an external usb drive
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, If your at the computer boot the live to get to the desktop on the install.
[06:41] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee tried that. doesnt like it. i will get a usb stick and try it again though
[06:43] <ryan___> hello
[06:43] <Guest63073> hi
[06:43] <benoror> hello
[06:43] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee i remember the first time i installed, it gave me similar issues. cant remember the fix for intel graphics chipset.
[06:44] <benoror> someone with GPG expertise? I have a question :)
[06:44] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee but if i can boot up from stick, what are my options?
[06:44] <ryan___> i'm having trouble booting ubuntu, something w/ can't mount
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, You said you had that fix on the installs desktop
[06:44] <Guest63073> hi there
[06:44] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee yeah. so it will let me see the files. ok cool. :)
[06:45] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee hopefully its the same issue...
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, Yeah, if it is a command needed you are not running the install from you desktop so if you get there tell us what the fix is if you like.
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> your*
[06:46] <jackbrown> could anyone help me with Docky? IT often crashes expecially when I suspend and resume my machine then I launched it with debug option here is the output http://dpaste.com/3C5DWFS/
[06:46] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee of course i will.
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> cool
[06:50] <Gallomimia> hey! i always hear about installing mdadm for using software raid. but when i go to install that it's a mailserver
[06:52] <Loshki> Gallomimia: google "HOWTO: Linux Software Raid using mdadm". That should get you started...
[06:54] <Gallomimia> Loshki: thanks that's the readup i'm working from. its the one that says install mdadm which is a mail client ><
[06:54] <Gallomimia> mail server! sorry
[06:55] <Gallomimia> no it's not. it just installs a mail server for you :/ whats up with that
[06:56] <Loshki> Gallomimia: dunno, never used it myself. Sounds like you're unstuck for the moment.
[07:13] <prabath>  #modsecurity
[07:15] <prabath>  #modsecurity
[07:18] <Pr0jectRec0n> If I updated to a backported kernel froim precise (to trusty) by doing 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty inux-image-generic-lts-trusty & linux-headers-generic-lts-trusty', how easily do I go back to the orig kernel verison?
[07:22] <leomark> hey guys, Im trying to install apache2 in ubuntu.. I got an error saying "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so"
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> Pr0jectRec0n, You might look at this for another option. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[07:26] <Alder> Guys! How do I verify that the exact same .iso that sits on my desktop was transferred to my USB drive? How do I verify the SHA-1 AFTER transferring it? Do you understand?
[07:26] <Pr0jectRec0n> Alder, md5sum <file>
[07:26] <Alder> Pr0jectRec0n: That has nothing to do with what I asked. :S
[07:26] <ciurkut> hello i have weird problem... after reboot my wallpaper and lockscreen theme changes in gnome shell... any idea?
[07:27] <wols> Alder: shasum /dev/sdb or shasum /dev/sda1 wherever you copied it to
[07:27] <Alder> wols: Are you 100% sure? Does this work on Mac too?
[07:28] <slimjimflim> hi, randomly my screen freezes and i get flashing boxes all over it and the only way to get any response is to do a hard reboot.  running trusty tahr 14.04 (3.13.0-24-generic), this also happened running 12.10.  from lspci: "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)"
[07:28] <slimjimflim> on a del inspiron n5110
[07:28] <wols> Alder: why do you care? do you think your PC is maliciously writing the wrong imagefile to the stick?
[07:28] <slimjimflim> *dell
[07:28] <slimjimflim> also i get this weirdness from dmesg:  http://pastie.org/9233781
[07:29] <slimjimflim> also, running xubuntu
[07:29] <slimjimflim> but i doubt that has anything to do with it
[07:29] <Alder> wols: Making sure never hurts? :)
[07:29] <wols> Alder: it does hurt. wasting time is wasting time.
[07:30] <Alder> wols: I don't see it as wasted time. :S
[07:30] <wols> cause if the above were true you were already compromised and it'd be a waste of time: the malware would corrupt your shasum :P
[07:30] <Alder> :O
[07:31] <slimjimflim> ...also from lsmod "video                  18903  1 i915
[07:31] <slimjimflim> "
[07:32] <slimjimflim> can anyone help?
[07:32] <leomark_> how can I install the lists of apache module?
[07:33] <slimjimflim> leomark_: the lists?
[07:33] <somsip> leomark_: exactly what do you mean? sudo a2enmod?
[07:33] <leomark_> @somsip Im installing apache2 but I got some error saying "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so"
[07:34] <somsip> leomark_: how are you installing apache2? What version of ubuntu>
[07:34] <slimjimflim> leomark_: does that file exist?
[07:34] <leomark_> @slimjimflim the file dont exists..
[07:35] <somsip> leomark_: did you upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4 recently?
[07:35] <leomark_> Maybe I need to install some module in apache..
[07:35] <leomark_> yes..
[07:35] <somsip> leomark_: http://serverfault.com/questions/386687/update-to-apache-2-4-missing-modules
[07:35] <wols> slimjimflim: pastebin the output of "lspci -nn" and "dpkg -l|grep bumb"
[07:38] <slimjimflim> wols: http://pastie.org/9233805 http://pastie.org/9233809
[07:39] <wols> slimjimflim: you have no nvidia card installed but you have bumblebee installed. remove it
[07:40] <slimjimflim> wols: hrm, yea it didn't look like lspci was talking about me having a nvidia card
[07:40] <slimjimflim> wols: bumblebee is a nvidia driver or something i take it?
[07:41] <wols> no. bumblebee is a tool to switch between discrete and igp videocards, mainly for nvidia but not exclusively
[07:41] <slimjimflim> wols: what are the odds of complete annihilation if i do this?
[07:42] <slimjimflim> have you tried this before...did it fix something?
[07:44] <slimjimflim> k guess ur afk.  fuckit here we go...
[07:50] <uc_dude> hi. i'm trying to update devede to 3.23 but it stays at 3.21 can anybody help?
[07:50] <somsip> !info devede
[07:51] <somsip> uc_dude: so you are running 14.04 are you? And devede is not pinned on installed via a PPA?
[07:51] <uc_dude> 12.04
[07:51] <somsip> !info devede precise
[07:52] <Wizard> Hi. Since 3D on my system is broken since about 9.10 and since there is probably no option for running 3d with KMS on this laptop I have a question. Would it be tricky to install for example 8.04, cut it to bare bones of kernel/base system/xorg and than debootstrap 14.04 and run desktop from chroot?
[07:52] <somsip> uc_dude: so you're on the up to date version for 12.04
[07:52] <Wizard> Have somebody tried such a strange setup? :P
[07:52] <uc_dude> far as i know
[07:52] <Wizard> Sounds crazy, but may work.
[07:52] <somsip> uc_dude: it's a staement. You *are* on the up to date version for 12.04. So you can't upgrade to a newer version from the up to date version
[07:53] <somsip> Wizard: sounds crazy, probably wont work. Just install 14.04 if that's what you want
[07:53] <uc_dude> i'm talking about the latest version of devede
[07:54] <somsip> uc_dude: the latest version of devede for 12.04 is the version you have - 3.21. You could try a PPA though
[07:54] <somsip> !ppa | uc_dude
[07:54] <uc_dude> ok. how do i do that?
[07:55] <somsip> You see the URL just after 'Looking for a PPA?' in the sentence above. Follow it
[07:55] <Wizard_> Shimpu:
[07:55] <Wizard_> somsip: No option
[07:55] <Wizard_> No 3d = no unity, no gnome shell
[07:55] <somsip> Wizard_: I can't help you then
[07:55] <somsip> Wizard_: so use a diffeent wM?
[07:55] <Wizard_> Sure thing, don't worry
[07:55] <Wizard_> somsip: Not an option ;D
[07:55] <somsip> Wizard_: EOT for me
[07:56] <Wizard_> Not for me. I'll try chroot
[07:56] <Wizard_> :)
[07:56] <slimjimflim> why is my dpkg wrong? ...anyone? http://pastie.org/9233852 and http://pastie.org/9233854
[07:56] <slimjimflim> wols: even
[07:56] <dfrank> hi guys. Is that technically possible to add some apt repository with _many_ versions of _the_same_ package?  Say, repository with several versions of firefox, or any other package.
[07:56] <uc_dude> giving it a try.
[07:57] <slimjimflim> dfrank: you could compile from source
[07:57] <somsip> dfrank: PPAs can do this. Example is deadsnakes for Python. See !PPA
[07:58] <dfrank> slimjimflim: I know I can, I also can download deb package and install it with dpkg. I'm asking exactly about apt repository with _many_ versions of _the_same_ package.
[07:58] <dfrank> somsip: each PPA version can contain only one version of each package, as far as I see
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> dfrank, look closer they probably are release specific.
[07:58] <somsip> dfrank: no. An example of this is the deadsnakes PPA for python, like I said.
[07:58] <dfrank> somsip: is there some PPA repository with at least two versions of the same package?
[07:59] <dfrank> somsip: ok thanks will look now
[07:59] <slimjimflim> somsip: dfrank: interesting  ... https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[08:00] <MarkCn> 有木有人
[08:00] <somsip> !zh | MarkCn
[08:01] <slimjimflim> utf ftw
[08:01] <dfrank> somsip: actually there are different packages: python2.6 , python2.7 , etc.
[08:02] <dfrank> somsip: so the question is still relevant: is there possible to have some repository (maybe PPA or any else) that would contain many versions of the same package
[08:02] <somsip> dfrank: define what you mean by 'different versions' if you don't mean different version numbers then
[08:03] <slimjimflim> dfrank: depends on the package tho.  ie, there's only one php package...5.4 for trusty
[08:03] <somsip> dfrank: maybe it's all a moot point. What is your real question?
[08:04] <dfrank> somsip: I mean exactly version number.   "python2.6" is a package name. Say, when I want to install firefox of version 11, I can type:  sudo aptitude install firefox=11.0+build1-0ubuntu4
[08:04] <somsip> dfrank: so you want to install an old version of FF?
[08:04] <dfrank> somsip: version number can be specified after '=' sign
[08:05] <somsip> dfrank: only candidates can be installed. Current candidates for FF and current and about 3.5 from memory
[08:05] <slimjimflim> dfrank: it doesn't work like that
[08:05] <slimjimflim> there are dependencies
[08:05] <dfrank> somsip: I want to have general way to install old versions of any package.  I've already found deb package of firefox, so right now I don't need to install older firefox
[08:05] <slimjimflim> it would be awesome if it did tho
[08:06] <slimjimflim> dfrank: you can always find the  ubuntu version that the package you want was built for and run it in a vm
[08:06] <MonkeyDust> dfrank  i haven't followed, but here's a howto, try if it's possible http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-how-do-i-create-a-ppa-71510.html
[08:06] <somsip> dfrank: I've never heard of such a thing, so EOT for me
[08:07] <slimjimflim> dfrank: i went off on a similar tangent recently and eventually gave up and made a vm
[08:07] <dfrank> somsip: sorry my English isn't perfect, what is "EOT"?
[08:07] <MonkeyDust> eond of topic
[08:07] <somsip> dfrank: End Of Thread. I'm out of the discussion as I can't help.
[08:08] <dfrank> somsip: i see, thanks for your time
[08:08] <slimjimflim> dfrank: virtualbox is your friend
[08:09] <dfrank> slimjimflim: well, this is so dirty hack. I like ubuntu and debian but I hate its total dislike of downgrading anything.
[08:10] <slimjimflim> dfrank: there's always arch and gentoo
[08:10] <slimjimflim> dfrank: or you could compile from source and replace the bin in /usr/bin
[08:10] <dfrank> slimjimflim: i know. they have their own troubles. well, thanks for your time too.
[08:11] <slimjimflim> np
[08:12] <dfrank> slimjimflim: i know i can, but it is all dirty hacks. I believe it's not so technically hard to implement, say, an automatic way to undo 'aptitude upgrade', it would save a lot of time for me. but, it isn't supported and most likely never will be, because it's agains ubuntu (and debian) philosophy
[08:12] <dfrank> *against
[08:12] <slimjimflim> yep
[08:12] <slimjimflim> dfrank: it's all about the dependencies
[08:13] <slimjimflim> dfrank: honestly, if you really want to test an old version of ff, just do it in a vm
[08:13] <slimjimflim> that's the easiest way
[08:13] <dfrank> slimjimflim: no. It's all about philosophy. If I have repository with old version of, say, firefox, then aptitude will resolve all the dependencies
[08:14] <dfrank> slimjimflim: if I specify, say, 'sudo aptitude install firefox=11.0+build1-0ubuntu4'
[08:15] <slimjimflim> dfrank: yea, but if your repo is for an older version of ubuntu, the dependencies for your ff version might conflict with other packages on the machine
[08:15] <dfrank> slimjimflim: it will warn me of course, but if I agree, then it will remove/install/downgrade/upgrade everything that needs to
[08:15] <slimjimflim> that's why repos are version specific
[08:15] <slimjimflim> it's an all or nothing kind of thing
[08:15] <dfrank> slimjimflim: if we have repos with ALL versions of ALL packages, then all the dependencies can be resolved
[08:16] <slimjimflim> dfrank: you'd have to fork ubuntu to do that :P
[08:16] <slimjimflim> good luck
[08:17] <slimjimflim> in the meantime, use a vm
[08:18]  * slimjimflim runs off to watch youtubez of ppl shooting guns and hopes his video card finally stops teh failz...l8rzzz
[08:39] <Md_> hi
[08:39] <Guest21663> I am installing bugzilla on my ubuntu machine
[08:40] <Guest21663> please help me to install DBD::Oracle module
[08:40] <Guest21663> for that
[08:41] <Guest21663> hi
[08:41] <Guest21663> anyone there
[08:42] <MonkeyDust> !info bugzilla
[08:43] <wigirc> What difference between background and foreground job of processes?
[08:44] <wigirc> bg and fg
[08:44] <MonkeyDust> wigirc  foreground shows output, basically
[08:45] <wigirc> MonkeyDust, background doesn't?
[08:45] <Versudo> background should, unless you're redirecting output to a file
[08:46] <Versudo> but the job's
[08:46] <Versudo> in the background, so you can interact with the shell
[08:48] <wigirc> thanks, try to understand in examples now)
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> wigirc  ctrl-z sends jobs to the background... 'jobs' shows what's running and fg [number] brings them to the foreground
[08:50] <llutz> ctrl-z stops a job, bg brings it in background
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> just tried it with htop... it's ctrl-c that stops a job
[08:51] <wigirc> oh ok. Now I see, thanks
[08:51] <llutz> MonkeyDust: ctrl-c terminates a job
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> llutz  ok, then it must be grammar, to stops = terminates
[08:51] <sledgeDJ> hey guys... I am tryig to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> to me*
[08:52] <Ben64> sledgeDJ: you can try asking in #winehq and  you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine
[08:53] <llutz> MonkeyDust: stops as in suspend process but keep it in memory waiting for ...
[08:53] <vinou33> hello, is there someone who can explain me how i could work on .doc, .xls, .xlsx, .docx files on my laptop which OS is ubuntu ?
[08:53] <benoror> vinou33: LibreOffice
[08:54] <vinou33> benoror: yes, but it doesn't seem to appear like on word or excel
[08:54] <benoror> because is not word nor excel
[08:54] <Guest88491> !list
[08:55] <vinou33> benoror: People who are going to read the files will open them thanks to word or excel. It will not create a problem ?
[08:55] <llutz> MonkeyDust: from bash man-page (Job Control): " ... Typing the suspend character (typically ^Z, Control-Z) while a process is running causes that process to be stopped and returns control to bash...."
[08:56] <benoror> vinou33: they won"t have major issues, probably only little compatibility details, but they will be able to open the files afterwards
[08:56] <vinou33> benoror: it is a CV... I am a bit lost...
[08:58] <bcvery> vinou33, why not save it as a PDF; LibreOffice can do that once you've created the document
[08:59] <sledgeDJ> hey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.
[09:00] <Arahael> Hey guys, can I ask what udisks are used for?
[09:00] <Arahael> (Why don't we just use, for instance, udev+pmount?)
[09:01] <vinou33> bcvery: yes, it is a good idea. Nevertheless, companies sometimes send files which format is .doc or .docx. I must add data and send back to them...
[09:02] <vinou33> should i use a vm ?
[09:02] <bekks> vinou33: Yes.
[09:02] <Marfu> hello
[09:03] <Marfu> where is channel for polish people ubuntu?
[09:03] <vinou33> is there someone who use this method ?
[09:03] <Arahael> vinou33: You might be able to use the free word viewer MS gives, and run it in wine...  But running a separate VM is by far less frustrating.
[09:03] <llutz> !pl | Marfu
[09:03] <wigirc> vinou33, use xp with word 2003+patch 2007 compatible
[09:03] <Arahael> vinou33: I do most of my work in VM's.
[09:03] <Marfu> Anybody can help me to put my package to ubuntu? (freeware font)
[09:04] <vinou33> Arahael: i work on Oracle Linux thanks to an Oracle VM which is free. Nevertheless, windows is not really free ^^.
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> vinou33  i have win xp as a virtual machine, only for ms office, because it's the standard
[09:04] <Arahael> vinou33: Almost every computer comes with a copy of windows.
[09:05] <vinou33> So, i should try to retrieve the windows copy but will the key be usable ?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> i recently installed lubuntu 14.04 on a laptop and had to manually add nm-applet to startup items to see wifi networks, is this a known issue to lubuntu or could something else cause this?
[09:05] <Arahael> vinou33: Why wouldn't it be?
[09:05] <Arahael> vinou33: Did you give it away to someone else?
[09:06] <vinou33> Arahael: no, i didn't.
[09:06] <Arahael> vinou33: (Oh, that remidns me... You might have some difficulty with OEM versions)
[09:06] <vinou33> Arahael: OEM ?
[09:06] <Arahael> vinou33: Still, give it a go.
[09:06] <Arahael> vinou33: At worst, it'll be good for 30 days.
[09:06] <Marfu> Where I can fount maintenacer for packeges font?
[09:07] <pentagonpie> dpkg -l still showes apps I removed, what can I do?
[09:08] <vinou33> Arahael: i am going to see.
[09:08] <llutz> pentagonpie: shown as "rc package..."? sudo aptitude purge '~C'
[09:10] <vinou33> Thank you for your help (everybody)
[09:11] <Arahael> vinou33: (btw, don't mix virtual machines. Pick one and then use only that one)
[09:12] <Arahael> vinou33: (ie, pick either vmware, or virtualbox, or the like)
[09:12] <thecha> hi what is the difference between vi and vim?
[09:13] <llutz> thecha: vim is "more improved", mostly vi is only a symlink to vim nowadays
[09:13] <Arahael> thecha: Sometimes vi is a smaller version of vim.
[09:13] <thecha> when i type "vi filename"  into ubuntu terminal does vim or vi open
[09:13] <thecha> and what is the diference
[09:13] <Arahael> thecha: But they are infact the same application, then calling vim using 'vi' will cause it to open in vi-emulation mode.
[09:14] <Arahael> thecha: So you get a more restricted, more compatible set of features.  If you actually prefer the full functionality, then use 'vim', not 'vi'.
[09:14] <thecha> what does vim have that vi doesnt
[09:14] <Arahael> thecha: Everything. :)
[09:14] <thecha> because i was able to work with vi out of the box
[09:14] <thecha> everything?
[09:14] <Arahael> thecha: word completion. tabs for files.
[09:14] <thecha> can you list all things included in "everything" ? thanks
[09:14] <thecha> ewww
[09:14] <Arahael> thecha: No.
[09:15] <thecha> word ompletion while i am writing bash files isnt that dangerous?
[09:15] <thecha> tabs sounds gfood though
[09:15] <bekks> why would that be dangerous?
[09:15] <Radon_3> I want to change the (default) theme of my ubuntu 12.04 instllation, how can i get a different look and feel out of the system without messing it up?
[09:16] <thecha> it might autocomplete some key command btu doing it wrong and thus creating a bash virus that will destroy the world
[09:16] <thecha> or maybe even my computer
[09:16] <bekks> thecha: honestly, thats nonsense.
[09:16] <Arahael> thecha: You have to explicitly set word completion, it's ^p unless I'm mistaken.
[09:16] <thecha> :(
[09:16] <llutz> thecha: open vim, type ":h vi-differences", read
[09:16] <Arahael> thecha: It also has syntax highlighting.
[09:16] <thecha> so no world destruction by accident?
[09:16] <thecha> wow
[09:16] <Radon_3> any ideas folks
[09:16] <bekks> thecha: No nonsense by accident.
[09:16] <Radon_3> ?
[09:16] <thecha> syntax highlighting sounds pretty neat
[09:17] <Arahael> thecha: No. But it also doesn't have M-x bufferfly
[09:17] <Arahael> thecha: (For THAT, you need emacs)
[09:17] <thecha> ok so now that i understand the difference between vi and copycat vim what is the difference between vi/m and emacs?
[09:17] <bekks> thecha: different editors.
[09:17] <thecha> is there an advantage to use emacs over vi/m
[09:17] <somsip> !atroll | thecha (not a question for this channel)
[09:17] <Arahael> thecha: Of course. vim does not have M-x butterfly.
[09:17] <thecha> but whne i only code in c+++ is there any benefeit to learn emacs?
[09:18] <thecha> if i nevr use lisp
[09:18] <somsip> !ot | thecha
[09:18] <bekks> thecha: how is all that related to Ubuntu?
[09:18] <thecha> ok i am new to linux
[09:18] <thecha> i wont ask any questions liek those anymore
[09:18] <thecha> but i thought i would ask other ubuntu users these basic  noob questions
[09:18] <thecha> my bad
[09:19] <thecha> :(
[09:19] <bekks> thecha: these arent ubuntu related questions, thats all.
[09:19] <Radon_3> is my question also noobish?
[09:19] <bekks> Radon_3: More important, it is ontopic.
[09:20] <gsilva> Good morning. Does anyone here has installed Spotify recently?
[09:20] <thecha> offtopic gsilva
[09:20] <thecha> >:(
[09:20] <bekks> gsilva: How does that poll help you?
[09:20] <gsilva> poll? which poll?
[09:20] <Radon_3> bekks: hey bekks, I hope you got my message about appologizing and stuff a weak or so back. any ways, do you have any suggestions for me?
[09:21] <bekks> gsilva: "does anyone..." is considered to be a poll.
[09:21] <somsip> gsilva: just ask your real question and if it's on topic and someone can help you, maybe they will
[09:21] <gsilva> well, my idea is to ask if someone has installed it in Ubuntu 14.04 since I can't install it
[09:21] <bekks> Radon_3: I'm sorry I never needed/wanted to change the 12.04 theme.
[09:22] <Radon_3> oh forget it Ubuntu looks good already.
[09:22] <bekks> gsilva: And which error do you get...?
[09:22] <gsilva> I believe the repositories are wrong
[09:22] <bekks> gsilva: Why do you think so?
[09:22] <somsip> gsilva: how did you install it? PPA?
[09:22] <Arahael> gsilva: Do you believe that nobody else can install Ubuntu?
[09:22] <gsilva> I read people weren't being able to install in 14.04
[09:23] <gsilva> I tried command lines and putting the address on system settings
[09:23] <bekks> gsilva: And...? State the error messages you get please
[09:23] <bekks> gsilva: Until now, you did not provide any information someone is able to help you with.
[09:23] <gsilva> "The information about available software is out-of-date"
[09:24] <Marfu> hello where I can found sponsor of package?
[09:24] <bekks> gsilva: when doing what...?
[09:24] <somsip> Marfu: launchpad usually
[09:24] <gsilva> Dude, take it easy. I'm not that comfortable with Linux anyways so ask something. If I knew how to diagnose the problem, I wouldn't be here
[09:24] <Marfu> somsip, ? please cleary
[09:25] <somsip> Marfu: the maintainers for packages are usually listed on Launchpad
[09:25] <gsilva> bekks, when putting the address of the repository via system settings
[09:25] <Marfu> somsip, I have a font and would like to put it to repo
[09:25] <somsip> gsilva: is this a ppa?
[09:25] <gsilva> I did as this article suggests: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10
[09:25] <sledgeDJ_> hey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.
[09:25] <gsilva> I believe it is a ppa, yes
[09:25] <sledgeDJ_> can anyone please help?
[09:25] <Marfu> somsip, Can You show me where exactly?
[09:25] <bekks> gsilva: dude, tone down and look out for someone else still wanting to help you. I dont want to help you anymore. Good luck.
[09:25] <somsip> !packaging | Marfu
[09:26] <Radon_3> so my clamav antivirus says that it is out dated cause a new version is out, is the new version going to be provided by the repositories or I have to get it from the clamav website and install it myself?
[09:26] <gsilva> sledgeDJ_, try Wine. I believe it's the best option
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav
[09:26] <Ben64> sledgeDJ: you can try asking in #winehq and  you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine
[09:26] <wigirc> Does synaptic write his logs in /var/log/apt/history.log?
[09:27] <somsip> gsilva: PPAs are not supported here, though from that link it's not entirely clear if it's a PPA or an official client. I can't help either way
[09:27] <gsilva> it's not an official client, otherwise you could download it from Spotify's website
[09:28] <gsilva> Anyways, thanks for helping. I guess the repository is out-of-date
[09:28] <somsip> gsilva: official as in 'official to Ubuntu'
[09:29] <gsilva> it's official, somsip: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/spotify-linux-preview-update-new-design
[09:29] <somsip> gsilva: I can't help you. Maybe someone else casn
[09:29] <somsip> *can
[09:29] <gsilva> alright, seems fair
[09:29] <gsilva> thanks though
[09:34] <thecha> how can i compile a file in ubuntu?
[09:34] <cfhowlett> !compile
[09:35] <thecha> thaks cfhowlett
[09:35] <cfhowlett> thecha happy to help
[09:38] <basiclaser> hey guys where/when can i get my hands on a ubuntu tablet?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> !touch | basiclaser
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> basiclaser: its already possible to install ubuntu-touch on some devices, oem phones comming this fall
[09:40] <moldy> hi
[09:40] <moldy> any idea how to get wifi working on a macbook pro with 14.04?
[09:44] <MO_Handes> I want my squid proxy server to keep log files from know till ever and does not remove them, is it done by default or should I configure it?
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> !squid | MO_Handes
[09:45] <cfhowlett> basiclaser presently there IS no ubuntu tablet ...
[09:45] <llutz> MO_Handes: you have to check logrotates config for squid too
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: some devices should have touch support on ubuntu desktop 14.04
[09:47] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje true but so far as I know, no OEM's are being sold with ubuntu pre-installed - which is my response to the question I thought he was asking.
[09:47] <basiclaser> cfhowlett: thanks
[09:47] <basiclaser> lotuspsychje: thanks
[09:48] <cfhowlett> basiclaser happy to help
[10:01] <receptionist> 有说中文的吗
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> !cn | receptionist
[10:01] <DJones> !cn | receptionist
[10:01] <sledgeDJ> can anyone please help?
[10:01] <sledgeDJ> can anyone please help?
[10:01] <sledgeDJ> hey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> sledgeDJ: wine or virtualbox windows
[10:02] <cfhowlett> sledgeDJ these ^^^
[10:03] <Ben64> sledgeDJ: stop asking the same question over and over again without listening to the answer. I replied with this twice already, read it. You can try asking in #winehq and you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine
[10:04] <bekks> sledgeDJ: Install virtualbox, create a vm, install windows, and run your software.
[10:06] <Fly80> hello, i have a vpn client (FortiClientSSLVPN) that I have to launch to connect to a VPN. Is it possible to integrate it in the network-manager connections in some way?
[10:21] <user123321> Ubuntu which has been installed through Windows 7 suddenly stopped booting. When I choose Ubuntu and it freezes on a "purple" background. Pressing ctrl+alt+del and choosing Ubuntu again had no luck. Please help. :|
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> user123321  "through windows 7"... you mean wubi?
[10:22] <user123321> MonkeyDust: Umm, not sure what's it called. I installed Ubuntu while on Windows 7. No virtual machine.
[10:22] <sr71black> Yes, through wubi so
[10:22] <user123321> Maybe it's wubi.
[10:23] <sr71black> yes
[10:23] <cfhowlett> user123321 wubi is dying, dead, no longer developed or supported.   consider your options
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> user123321  such installation is supposed to be used for testing reasons only
[10:24] <sr71black> user123321: but... I have doubts, user123321, whats version of Ubuntu are you using for wubi? It's strange if it is in 14.014
[10:24] <sr71black> sorry, 14.04
[10:25] <sr71black> for testing only is a dvdlive
[10:25] <Sohron> wubi is not supported anymore, not for a while in fact
[10:25] <sr71black> yes, but, please, user123321 are you using 14.04 version?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> user123321 start windows.  install virtualbox.  download 32 bit lubuntu or xubuntu.  Install x/l/ubuntu into the virtualbox.    OR you could do a proper dual boot
[10:26] <user123321> It's 12.xx latest, LTS.
[10:26] <sr71black> the latest LTS is 14.04
[10:27] <user123321> Oh, maybe then it was released recently? hmm.
[10:27] <sr71black> I recommend you install on another disk or a partition with Ubuntu 14.04
[10:27] <bekks> user123321: It was released in April.
[10:27] <sr71black> or their familiar like Lubuntu, Xubuntu, whatever you want
[10:29] <user123321> Oh, mine seems yo be old, downloaded around jan it seems - ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64
[10:29] <user123321> to be old*
[10:29] <sr71black> yes, it's old
[10:29] <cfhowlett> user123321 it's still supported, but current version is 12.04.4
[10:30] <user123321> cfhowlett: Would it have been updated to that version through update manager? Because I make sure it's updated. That file name, I got it from what's inside my Windows.
[10:31] <cfhowlett> user123321 depends on the command you gave.  apt-get update would not change the version.  apt-get dist-upgrade would upgrade all packages to the latest available in the distro, i.e. 12.04.3 to 12.04.4
[10:31] <user123321> So, wubi is out? I should either, 1. VM, OR, 2. dual boot?
[10:31] <sr71black> user123321: I suggest you to make a clean install, because through an update could make some problems by the sources
[10:31] <bekks> user123321: Use a VM. Wubi never was "in" besides for testing purposes.
[10:31] <cfhowlett> user123321 yep.
[10:32] <user123321> cfhowlett: I did through GUI update manager :|
[10:33] <cfhowlett> user123321 easiest thing to do:  choose the distro you want (14.04 is LTS).  download the correct ISO.  choose your install method.  clean install.
[10:34] <sr71black> : I'm agree with cfhowlett, I suggest you a clean install. Is the best option
[10:34] <user123321> Cool. Thanks.
[10:34] <wigirc> cfhowlett, but before backup all important stuff
[10:35] <wigirc> user123321, but before backup all important stuff
[10:35] <cfhowlett> wigirc user123321 EXACTOMUNDO!  backup ^3
[10:35] <sr71black> yes, of course, backup is better thing to do before a clean install
[10:35] <user123321> Cool. Umm, if I don't have a DVD atm to write, how can I dual boot?
[10:36] <sr71black> if you don't have a dvd, so, you can install through usb
[10:36] <cfhowlett> user123321 USB?
[10:37] <sr71black> in 12.xx, there is a USB application to make write an iso image to an usb device
[10:37] <user123321> Cool, I'll try.
[10:37] <sr71black> I don't remember, I think it's called "USB Creator"
[10:37] <wigirc> user123321, if you use windows ultraiso makes boot-usb
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !usb|user123321
[10:37] <sometux> anyone could recommend a monitoring tool to remotly monitor 40 mixed windows/linux servers?
[10:38] <bekks> sometux: nagios or icinga.
[10:38] <user123321> Thanks everyone.
[10:38] <sr71black> user123321: Not at all
[10:41] <user123321> Right now I have this NTFS partition on which I have installed wubi Ubuntu, so would I be able to dual-boot install Ubuntu on that partition (by formatting to Linux partition type, ofc), without messing up my Windows?
[10:42] <bekks> user123321: BAckup everything, install Ubuntu as dualboot.
[10:42] <user123321> bekks: backup even my Windows?
[10:42] <bekks> user123321: Sure.
[10:42] <sr71black> And then, remove the Ubuntu installed via Wubi
[10:42] <sr71black> or so you will get two Ubuntu
[10:43] <user123321> sr71black: Oh, how can I do that?
[10:43] <jimi_> After upgrading, my gnome desktop now has this area between the bottom of my app, and the bottom bar that shows my running apps. And next to the switcher there is a number like (1) (2) etc and that shows the apps that are running that have some attention needed, but for instance xchat only flashes if i look there. how can i  fix this behavior?
[10:43] <sr71black> Wubi is like an program, you can remove it in add-remove programm of windows
[10:43] <sr71black> like another one in windows
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> user123321  backup your ubuntu documents somewhere, then remove wubi in Windows 'add or remove programs'
[10:44] <user123321> MonkeyDust: Cool.
[10:45] <user123321> MonkeyDust: Oh gosh, I just realized I can't login to Ubuntu at first instance :O o.O
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> user123321   did you have any importants docs in ubuntu?
[10:48] <gry> files, perhaps - not always docs
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> yes, files, rather
[10:48] <user123321> Hmm, it's alright. I can let them go away.
[10:49] <user123321> I wish WUBI installation told me "for testing purposes only" :/
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> user123321  the wubi project is dead, so it won't be updated anymore
[10:54] <profe_valle> hello
[10:54] <alumno211314> hola
[10:54] <profe_valle> hola chula
[10:54] <alumno21314_> hola
[10:54] <profe_valle> hola alberto
[10:54] <alumno211314> alberto feoooooooooooooooooooo
[10:54] <alberr> hola profe
[10:55] <alberr> july feaaa
[10:55] <user123321> I'm downloading 14.04 LTS. Hoping to make a nice dual boot. Wish me luck.
[10:55] <alumno21314_> luck
[10:55] <alberr> luck
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> me luck
[10:56] <profe_valle> si
[10:56] <DJones> alumno21314_: alberr profe_valle Please stop that, this a support channel, not a chat channel
[10:56] <profe_valle> i am sorry
[10:56] <costelacionX> hello
[10:56] <alumno41314_> jaja
[10:56] <alumno21314_> sorryyyy
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> !es | profe_valle
[10:56] <profe_valle> bie
[10:57] <anonimo> jaja+
[10:57] <user123321> So, thanks everyone! Hoping to login here again with freshly installed Ubuntu. see ya :)
[11:08] <Droidz7> Hey guys. I need help with something. How do I make a usb drive automount as a folder on startup?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | Droidz7
[11:09] <Droidz7> i tried editing fstab
[11:37] <metamorpy> Hey guys, I'm having an annoying issue with 14.04. The wireless dies when screen goes to sleep, even though the machine is still on. I can see slight wireless activity, but when pinging the machine i just get 100% packet loss. Anyone else experienced similar issues?
[11:38] <metamorpy> Actually it happens randomly even when the screen is still on.
[11:39] <mantas> is zen.spamhaus.org down?
[11:39] <philinux> metamorpy;~ hang on i'll test it
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> mantas  yes
[11:41] <philinux> metamorpy;~ just tested and wireless stayed on
[11:42] <Pessimist> metamorpy: dmesg output ?
[11:42] <philinux> metamorpy;~ although i dont have screen lock on that may be it
[11:42] <metamorpy> it drops out when screen is on too now. so might not be related to that at all ..
[11:43] <metamorpy> i suspect it might be a realtek chip wireless. :(
[11:43] <bekks> metamorpy: So check that then.
[11:44] <Pessimist> metamorpy: so what's the output of dmesg?
[11:44] <metamorpy> the entire thing in the chat?
[11:44] <Pessimist> paste it...
[11:44] <Pessimist> in a pastebin
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> metamorpy  use a pastebin
[11:46] <metamorpy> http://pastebin.com/5y5DPARz
[11:49] <kalohr> quit
[11:49] <metamorpy> It's very strange, i can sometimes ping it into responding again, and sometimes not.
[11:50] <Pessimist> metamorpy: rt2800usb is pretty buggy: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62781
[11:52] <metamorpy> that explains it ^^, got any recommendations for a wireless card or brand i can buy for a linux based machine?
[11:52] <bekks> metamorpy: Get some Intel chipset.
[11:55] <metamorpy> ok, thanks :) i'll see what i can find
[11:56] <metamorpy> has it gotten worse with later ubuntu versions btw? i think 13.04 or something was very stable.
[11:58] <shunya_chakra> hi can be open a file manager directly from terminal?
[11:58] <philinux> shunya_chakra;~ type in nautilus in terminal
[11:58] <shunya_chakra> cool, thanks philinux
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> metamorpy: 14.04 is nice and improved alot, stable as 13.04
[11:59] <philinux> shunya_chakra;~ check out man nautilus for all terminal options
[12:00] <shunya_chakra> philinux, i like this it got lot of options... my hands get hurt when i move to mouse :P
[12:01] <philinux> metamorpy;~ I've got this chip on my lappy and its wifi is rock solid Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)
[12:01] <philinux> shunya_chakra;~ glad to be of assistance
[12:02] <shunya_chakra> philinux, thanks! a lot!!!
[12:02] <shunya_chakra> :)
[12:04] <metamorpy> thanks philinux
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> metamorpy: did you try ralink website for latest drivers?
[12:05] <metamorpy> not yet.
[12:07] <RamiC> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu on my HP DV6 laptop and it is overheating
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: wich ubuntu version plz?
[12:09] <RamiC> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:09] <compdoc> RamiC, seems to be a common problem with some laptops
[12:14] <metamorpy> thanks for the help guys! i have to run, but i'll look into getting a new driver or wireless card.
[12:14] <RamiC> I have 2 graphics card, one Intel 3rd Gen Core & one Nvidia GEforce GT 630M
[12:14] <RamiC> Anything to do with that?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: yes some graphics drivers/cards can influence heating problems
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: maybe check your additional driver setion to see if other drivers show up?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: doublecheck if your bios has powersettings maybe
[12:18] <RamiC> Can you let me know how I can go about doing that?
[12:18] <penos> hi brothers
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: check software sources/last tab additional drivers
[12:21] <erimo> hello
[12:22] <Krishnamurti> which distribution　is fit to install on usb device?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Krishnamurti  who are you talking to?
[12:23] <Rory> !ot | Krishnamurti
[12:23] <Krishnamurti> all of you
[12:23] <Gallomimia> ubuntu is
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> Krishnamurti  try Ubuntu, it's a nice distro and the only one supported here
[12:24] <Krishnamurti> thanks
[12:25] <RamiC> lotuspsychje: My NVIDIA driver is using an alternative dirver (x.org x server)
[12:25] <RamiC> do I change to the binary driver?
[12:31] <erimo> hello anyone
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> erimo  hello, how can we help you?
[12:37] <sarvsav> Hi everyone
[12:37] <sarvsav> i am using imagemagick tool
[12:37] <sarvsav> to convert png image to bmp
[12:37] <sarvsav> png image size = 62kb after conversion its size increased to 25 MB
[12:38] <sarvsav> could someone please help
[12:38] <RamiC> Hello, my Ubuntu 14.04 is overheatring when I just installed it on my hp pavillion dv6. I have 2 graphic cards, Nvidia and Intel 3rd core. How should I proceed?
[12:39] <g105b> I've installed chromium-browser as my default web browser, but when I click a link in another application, a new window of chromium-browser opens, without navigating to the page. I have to copy/paste the link into the omnibox... any ideas of how to fix this? (tried reinstalling, removing .config/Chromium)
[12:45] <RamiC> Hello, my Ubuntu 14.04 is overheatring when I just installed it on my hp pavillion dv6. I have 2 graphic cards, Nvidia and Intel 3rd core. How should I proceed?
[12:46] <jnoob22> RamiC, you're getting this with a specific OS? or just any?
[12:47] <jnoob22> if not, it's time to get a new fan.
[12:47] <philinux> ubuntu 14.04 firefox always starts on ubuntu start page instead of tabs open from last session . anyone else seeing this
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> philinux  change it in the FF settings
[12:48] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ its set to windows and tabs from last time
[12:48] <OerHeks> RamiC, might have to do with installing drivers, no fan without? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[12:49] <jnoob22> RamiC, how did you know it was over-heating?
[12:49] <jnoob22> RamiC, which monitoring app did you use?
[12:50] <Armag3dd0n1> just updated every computer/laptop in my house to ubuntu :) yay me!
[12:50] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ but always goes to homepage
[12:51] <Pessimist> RamiC: you should turn off the indepent (I think that's the word) graphics card when you are not using it
[12:51] <trijntje> Armag3dd0n1: congratulations ;)
[12:51] <RamiC> I used the sensors command, it got to 88degrees so I turned it off a bit for now
[12:51] <RamiC> indepent is the nvidia or the intel one?
[12:52] <jackbrown> is there a way to set a program to auto restart when it crashes ?
[12:52] <RamiC> When I went to additionmal drivers, I saw that the nvidia is using the xserver driver
[12:53] <Armag3dd0n1> thank you :p
[12:53] <Armag3dd0n1> ubuntu is a lot faster as a OS on desktops and laptops IMO
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> philinux  not sure what causes it
[12:54] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ have you had firefox doing this too?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> philinux  it says here "save & quit"
[12:56] <icsu> is TrueCrypt dead?
[12:56] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ not seen save and quit anywhere. when does that message pop up
[12:57] <philinux> this is FF 29
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> philinux  with two tabs open, when i close FF
[12:58] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ just quits here no message
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> philinux  top right: the 3 horizontal line icon > preferences > tabs
[13:00] <foolhardy> I'm attemping to mount a local drive to use for storage.
 mount -t ext /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
 the partition type os "linux filesystem"
 what should I be using in place of ext?
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> foolhardy  use a pastebin, please
[13:00] <gts> hey guys
[13:00] <RamiC> jnoob22: any idea?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> foolhardy  or keep your question in 1 line
[13:01] <foolhardy> http://pastebin.com/k4E112RB
[13:01] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ i've got that warning unticked so that explain why no message
[13:01] <philinux> thats default i think
[13:01] <jnoob22> RamiC, unfortunately when it comes to video drivers causing a meltdown, i'm at a loss.
[13:02] <RamiC> Oerheks: How should I proceed? Do I update the drivers?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> philinux  it's what you looked for?
[13:02] <RamiC> jnoob22: no problem, thanks for the help
[13:03] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ i'll tick it and give it a whirl
[13:03] <theos> hi all! network manager cant establish a wired connection but works fine with wireless. both are from the same router. wired connection works fine on other pc. please help!
[13:04] <foolhardy> http://pastebin.com/9LaDPP2C
[13:04] <theos> i am using 10.04
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> theos  what's the output of    ifconfig         use a pastebin to show it to the channel
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> ah, 10.04
[13:05] <theos> MonkeyDust, eth0 is up but no ipv4 addr
[13:06] <theos> dhclient doesnt seem to find connection either
[13:14] <RamiC> How do I turn off my Nvidia graphics card in Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:16] <konadr> im trying to run apt-get -y upgrade from a server via a cron job, it just prompts for confirmation, I have tried setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive but it doesn't seem to work
[13:18] <trndr> konadr, shouldn't it be apt-get upgrade -y  ?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> was thinking the same thing
[13:19] <konadr> i seem to find differing accounts online trndr, lots of people seem to say the other way around, il try it anyway to see
[13:22] <rmoore> Is it strange that I'm not seeing any performance difference between Unity and XFCE (Xubuntu)?
[13:22] <rmoore> I'm running a 5 year old first gen Intel dual core laptop with 4 gb of ram.
[13:23] <trndr> konadr, according to man apt-get it should be -y upgrade, but upgrade -y worked for me. So the differing accounts make sense
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> rmoore  are they both fast or both slow?
[13:23] <rmoore> both slow
[13:24] <rmoore> well. not horribly slow
[13:24] <rmoore> just a bit slugish. especially with the Software Center
[13:24] <shunya_chakra> hi, i got youtube-dl version of 2nd month but on there site they also release the version of 5th.
[13:24] <shunya_chakra> how can i get htat
[13:24] <shunya_chakra> that
[13:24] <shunya_chakra> i mean update?
[13:25] <konadr> hmm same thing happens trndr, quite odd
[13:26] <trndr> konadr, you could try --yes, or piping yes into apt-get
[13:27] <pr3p> Helo
[13:27] <OerHeks> shunya_chakra, the version in softwarecenter is the latest, same as the site 14.05.19
[13:31] <Pici> 5/70
[13:31] <shunya_chakra> OerHeks, ok I installed it from terminal is now i need to rid out old version?
[13:33] <OerHeks> shunya_chakra, what old version? how did you install the previous one?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> shunya_chakra  sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:33] <konadr> ya i was trying the pipe just now trndr to see if that ran
[13:34] <shunya_chakra> OerHeks, MonkeyDust nv, problem solved.. i used pip
[13:34] <shunya_chakra> thanks for help! :)
[13:34] <shunya_chakra> python is awesome it's got its on installing python packages
[13:38] <Armag3dd0n1> any idea when ubuntu will update xbmc in the software centre?
[13:38] <Armag3dd0n1> 13.0 is out but it's showing 12.3 still :/
[13:39] <smartin__> Hi All, OK I just installed ubuntu 14.04, I setup a root user (yes I know but my company requires it). I can su - to the root user with the password without issue. If I ssh as the root user I get password denied even though the password is the same as when i do a su -. I have confirmed that the sshd_config is not blocking the root user and /var/log/auth.log is saying I am entering the wrong password for root. I have done this at lea
[13:39] <smartin__> and I copy\paste the password and the password I enter via ssh is the same as when I do a su - but the ssh password does not work, any ideas?
[13:40] <trijntje> Armag3dd0n1: it won't, you'll have to wait untill the next version of ubuntu comes out
[13:40] <Armag3dd0n1> really?
[13:40] <Armag3dd0n1> wut
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> Armag3dd0n1  or use a PPA with the more recent version, but that's not supported here
[13:41] <user123321> Ok I have Windows 7. Using a partitional manager, I have formatted one partition with Ext3 and one "adjacent" area with Linux Swap. Now, should I use automatic or manual partitionaing when installing Ubuntu (dual boot)?
[13:41] <trijntje> Armag3dd0n1: thats the point, people work very hard to make sure the 60.000 or so packages you can install work together properly, and then again for newer versions in each release. It wouldn't be stable to continuously upgrade all programs all the time
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> user123321  manual if you know what you're doing
[13:42] <trijntje> user123321: delete the swap and ext3 partition, then choose 'automatic' during install
[13:42] <user123321> delete the partitions? ah.
[13:43] <trijntje> user123321: yes, the installer will automatically use the free space for ubuntu
[13:43] <user123321> Can I delete it using Ubuntu setup?
[13:43] <manaar333> salut tout le monde
[13:43] <trijntje> yes, if you select 'try ubuntu without installing', and then use gparted to delete the partitions
[13:43] <manaar333> where is the french server?
[13:43] <trijntje> !fr
[13:44] <user123321> hmm, so I'll make them unallocated space then?
[13:44] <user123321> I'll use the same partition manager then?
[13:45] <neurosnap> does gnome not work well with ubuntu+unity 14.04 lts?
[13:45] <smartin__> anyone on my auth issue?
[13:45] <trijntje> neurosnap: just install the gnome version of ubuntu, it should work fine
[13:45] <neurosnap> trijntje: that seems rather counter-intuitive to a linux based system
[13:46] <user123321> see ya, gonna instal Ubuntu :D
[13:46] <neurosnap> but is what people keep suggesting to me
[13:46] <user123321> install*
[13:47] <trijntje> neurosnap: I don't understand what you are saying, install the gnome version of ubuntu if you want to use gnome, what else do you want?
[13:47] <Armag3dd0n1> so basically i gotta wait? omg! oh well, I heard it's rubbish anyway :p
[13:47] <neurosnap> trijntje: i want to try multiple desktop environments, i dont want to reinstall a linux distro every time i wanna try a new DE
[13:48] <trijntje> neurosnap: you can install them side by side if you want, or try them out in virtualbox
[13:48] <WLM> neurosnap: do you want to use like Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Edubuntu?
[13:48] <WLM> Or other unofficial distros
[13:49] <neurosnap> WLM: i just want to try multiple DEs without reconfiguring my entire setup
[13:49] <WLM> Okay
[13:49] <WLM> That's possible.
[13:49] <WLM> I'm doing it
[13:49] <daftykins> smartin__: when you say you 'setup a root user' you mean you just created a password for root, correct?
[13:49] <neurosnap> WLM: the reason why im asking is because i just tried to install gnome and it didn't go so well
[13:49] <WLM> I'm currently using Xubuntu because Unity is broken, but I still have Ubuntu for when it may work agan
[13:50] <trijntje> neurosnap: which package did you install?
[13:50] <WLM> You can just do it from the software center. Everything worked for me
[13:50] <smartin__> yup and I ensured he was enabled as well, I have never seen anything like this and I have been using ubuntu for years.
[13:50] <trijntje> and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:50] <WLM> I installed the xubuntu-desktop package on my 14.04 and now I can run both Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[13:50] <WLM> So Unity and Xfce
[13:50] <neurosnap> trijntje: gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[13:50] <WLM> What happened when installing that?
[13:51] <neurosnap> WLM: it worked but all the windows would create a "dragging" effect that stuck to the screen
[13:51] <neurosnap> the only advice i got was to reinstall gnome
[13:51] <daftykins> smartin__: well, it's a shame to see the primary intention of ubuntu's setup be broken... but given you've already checked sshd's configuration for permitting root login and naturally you know the password and have tried combinations in case it's being picky about a given one - i've no extra ideas to add
[13:51] <trijntje> in gnome? That sounds like you dont have the proper drivers for your graphics card
[13:52] <dfcnvt> Is there a webpage explaining the meaning of each version/package in ubuntu? For example: lucid, precise, raring, saucy, trusty, utopic and each prefixes -updates, -backports
[13:52] <neurosnap> trijntje: it's possible, im running vmware
[13:52] <smartin__> daftykins: thanks it is really wierd I have never seen a password work via terminal and not work via ssh.
[13:52] <ciampix> hi. How to consult doc-base documentation? If I install git-doc for instance... it writes html files in /usr/share/doc-base but yelp do not see those files...
[13:52] <neurosnap> wmware fusion ontop of mac osx mavericks
[13:53] <bfilipescu> wois
[13:54] <daftykins> smartin__: and all the logs have to say is the password is wrong? :S
[13:54] <somsip> !info lua
[13:54] <smartin__> daftykins: the auth.log says the password is correct when I do a “su -“, when I ssh in it says the authentication faiilure for my user
[13:55] <somsip> !find liblua
[13:55] <daftykins> smartin__: ridiculous... but try ssh localhost :)
[13:55] <ike> just learned about this irc is this a good place to get help fixing technical issues
[13:55] <daftykins> ike: only if they relate to ubuntu, but yes
[13:55] <smartin__> daftykins: same issue with ssh localhost
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> ike  ask your question and wait
[13:56] <Pici> ike: If you have an Ubuntu question... yes.
[13:56] <shunya_chakra> best community!!!
[13:56] <ike> i have an issue with pipelight (the software for for watching netflix in a native browser could i et help with that
[13:56] <ciampix> mmm yelp seems to have nothing to do with doc-base.. Question: how to read doc-base doc in ubuntu
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> what's doc-base?
[13:57] <smartin__> daftykins: http://apaste.info/fKu the log for the working su - and the failing ssh at localhost
[13:57] <ciampix> apt-cache show doc-base
[13:57] <saleem> is there any way to disable google custom search on browsers in ubuntu?
[13:57] <ciampix> it is a standard for doc in html
[13:57] <ciampix> (Debian)
[13:58] <ciampix> there are some clients
[13:58] <daftykins> smartin__: i see it's using IPv6
[13:58] <smartin__> daftykins: would that cause this issue?
[13:58] <daftykins> smartin__: not a clue, but something that sticks out to me is all
[13:58] <trndr> smartin__, have you changed PermitRootLogin and removed root from DenyUsers in sshd_config?
[13:58] <ciampix> yelp (should) is (?) one
[13:58] <daftykins> smartin__: yeah pastebin sshd_config i bet there's a value in there somewhere
[13:59] <ciampix> maybe, I am not shure
[13:59] <ciampix> maybe, I am not sure
[13:59] <saleem> is there any way to disable google custom search on browsers in ubuntu? can someone please give me any fix for it?
[14:00] <smartin__> daftykins: no denyuser entrie at all permitroot is yes - http://apaste.info/9pv
[14:01] <trijntje> saleem: click on the little arrow next to the google icon to change it to something else
[14:02] <saleem> trijntje, i tried these fixes already but dont work https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/959463
[14:03] <trndr> smartin__, have you restarted sshd since the change in sshd_config?
[14:03] <smartin__> yup
[14:03] <classicthais> someone now the service of ubuntu that can shared the folder that devide by group and user?
[14:03] <classicthais> please recommend me.
[14:03] <smartin__> trndr: yup
[14:03] <smartin__> trndr: even confirmed a new timestamp on the service with ps
[14:04] <classicthais> That's service is SAMBA or Not?
[14:04] <trndr> smartin__, in that case it might be easier to beat common sense into your boss ;)
[14:04] <saleem> trijntje, your tip seems to be working thanks for it,hope it doesnt go back/revert to custome search later
[14:04] <smartin__> trndr: I wish, but this issue still seems like  a major flaw somewhere. Why on earth would the password work for terminal and not ssh?
[14:04] <daftykins> classicthais: what language do you speak? it might be better for you to find a local channel
[14:05] <classicthais> does it have thai channel?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> !thai
[14:05] <classicthais> that talk about ubuntu.
[14:05] <trndr> smartin__, security, there is no reason to allow root login, so making it as hard as possible to enable makes sense
[14:06] <classicthais> I live in Thailand.
[14:06] <daftykins> !th
[14:06] <smartin__> trndr: I have done everything to enable it and it still does not work. It is saying the password is bad in the auth.log even thought it is correct. That does not make sense
[14:06] <daftykins> classicthais: ^ there you go
[14:07] <smartin__> trndr: maybe a different error is needed if this is trully a case of root being disabled somewhere else as the error point to a bad password
[14:07] <nikomx> Sup
[14:08] <smartin__> trndr: WOW, I have had a bash loop in the background for testing to see if the root user can login, it just did magically even though I did not change anything since it’s failed attempt….wierd!
[14:08] <sabbut> I don't know if this is the best place to ask. I recently bought a new graphics card for a fairly old computer (maybe 7 years old) with Ubuntu. Now the computer randomly freezes. I also get error messages while Ubuntu is loading, maybe something in the configuration may be the source of the problem?
[14:08] <bekks> sabbut: Which error messages?
[14:08] <xubuntu> hello friends
[14:08] <nikomx> Anyone reccomen a desktop that will run new vetsion of ubuntu for less then five hundref
[14:08] <bekks> !ot | nikomx
[14:08] <trndr> smartin__, funky, gratz.
[14:08] <nikomx> In store or online
[14:09] <bekks> nikomx: Both is offtopic in here.
[14:09] <nikomx> I have only a pthree dell dedktop
[14:09] <sabbut> bekks: something similar to what I see here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=584275
[14:09] <smartin__> trndr: are there multiple authentication repos in 14.04?
[14:09] <sabbut> bekks: "cpufrequtils: ondemand CPUFreq governor not available"
[14:09] <Guest45646> get a cheap thinkcenter? (knows nothing about computers tbh)
[14:09] <nikomx> I use to run vesion seven to eleven
[14:09] <Guest45646> (i know nothing*)
[14:10] <nikomx> On one gig ram
[14:10] <trndr> smartin__, don't know TBH. Could it be you were blocked due to too many failed attempts?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> nikomx  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there
[14:14] <daftykins> nikomx: lubuntu is your only bet, but i think it's too late to be trying to use a Pentium III in this day.
[14:17] <mjayk> Haya all I can access and open files stored on my USB stick via terminal but I get in the file manager, I can see the drive but get an I/O error when I try to open the folders any idea's?
[14:17] <mjayk> ubuntu 14.04 64 but
[14:17] <mjayk> *bit
[14:18] <ciampix> someone know how to read doc-base standard docs in ubuntu without searching manually /usr/share/doc-base ?
[14:21] <classicthais> I talk in #ubutntu-th , it don't have any person.
[14:21] <classicthais> I don't know to talk any one.
[14:22] <sabbut> classicthais: did you spell it correctly?
[14:22] <sabbut> #ubuntu-th
[14:22] <classicthais> correct.
[14:23] <MarcN> My mediascanner-service-2.0 process is eating u p cpu time. Where are the controls for it?  In fact what uses it?
[14:23] <daveb__> Can I some how add custom options to grub that set certain variables, and I can access those variables from upstart or a loginscript or something?
[14:23] <classicthais> a virtual software that can run or install windows os ?
[14:23] <classicthais> Virtual box or VMware  is better?
[14:24] <classicthais> please recommend me?
[14:24] <compdoc_> Virtualbox
[14:24] <MarcN> classicthais, I like VirtualBox and have used it for years.  Win7 runs fine in it and even with access to USB devices directly.
[14:25] <classicthais> It don't have VMware fusion that install in ubuntu?
[14:25] <classicthais> I understand the true information.
[14:27] <bekks> classicthais: vmware fusion is available for osx only. Just use virtualbox.
[14:28] <classicthais> Ok! I will download and install it for install windows 8.
[14:28] <mistawright> how can I tell distcc to use the arm gcc compiler i have installed?
[14:29] <classicthais> Someone  can recommend the service of ubuntu that can share the folder devide the access by group and user.
[14:29] <philipp__> Hallo leute
[14:29] <bekks> classicthais: What does that mean?
[14:29] <bekks> !de | philipp__
[14:31] <classicthais> Suppose that the folder name is engineer. It share for only the account that is member of engineer group.
[14:32] <classicthais> if I am the member of engineer group , I can access and delete or edit file inside engineer folder.
[14:32] <classicthais> My friend is not the member of engineer group, he can access but can't delete or edit.
[14:33] <classicthais> Someone recommend me about the service of ubuntu that do as my need.
[14:34] <ubuntuser13> classicthais: I think you are talking about file permissions .
[14:34] <classicthais> Yesh!
[14:34] <classicthais> I can use the ubuntu desktop for do that?
[14:34] <ubuntuser13> classicthais : you can easily do this with chmod commands
[14:36] <deepanshu> hi
[14:36] <deepanshu> i am new to ubuntu i want to discuss some problems of ubuntu
[14:36] <compdoc_> procede
[14:38] <frank__> hello everybody
[14:39] <blueingress> Hi all, I lost the boot mene to my win7 when after I reintall ubuntu. How Can I find it back? Thanks.
[14:40] <deepanshu> hi to  every one
[14:40] <frank__> Can someone know Linux Assembly laugage ?
[14:40] <rob___sdaq> @blueingress you need to boot into a live CD if theres no boot options and follow this guide to bring back grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:41] <compdoc_> I think Assembly langauge is more a cpu thing
[14:41] <Bashing-om> blueingress: After the (re-)install did you -> sudo update-grub <- > to pick up and chainload Windows onto grub's boot menu ?
[14:41] <deepanshu> s,jas
[14:41] <frank__> but you know ,when i use gcc -S exp.c -o exp.s
[14:41] <blueingress> Bashing-om, no
[14:42] <frank__> something very ODD
[14:42] <Bashing-om> blueingress: Run that and advise us of the results.
[14:42] <frank__> so i wanna learn AT&T sytax Assembly ..
[14:42] <blueingress> Bashing-om, Thanks. trying
[14:43] <bekks> frank__: Then you'd have to find some system that actually still uses AT&T ASM :)
[14:43] <Bashing-om> deepanshu: You have a support request ?
[14:44] <blueingress> Bashing-om, there is results. : Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1.
[14:44] <frank__> Actually difficut ..but ..
[14:44] <blueingress> Bashing-om, should I reboot to find out?
[14:44] <user124141> Hi, is there any script or piece of software to create a pdf out of many picture files (scanned text document)? Should create small size pdfs but text should be readable
[14:44] <Bashing-om> blueingress: looks good, reboot to see the effect.
[14:45] <bekks> frank__: Actually impossible. Whats the end goal after all that?
[14:45] <deepanshu> how to restore the grub
[14:45] <blueingress> Bashing-om, Thanks a lot, c y
[14:46] <frank__> but as you know,C even can do anything but asm really should be understand ..
[14:47] <ubuntuser13> deepanshu: restore grub is easy with   ubuntu cd.
[14:47] <Bashing-om> deepanshu: Several ways, what makes you think your grub needs restoring ?
[14:47] <deepanshu> i am just asking to increase my knowkedge
[14:48] <frank__> fork() create a process and movl $2,%ebx movl $1,%eax int $0x80 aslo can do it ...but
[14:49] <Bashing-om> deepanshu: Admirable, grub is a deep peocess. May I suggest that you start with this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 .
[14:49] <Bashing-om> *process
[14:50] <nikolam> How do I do remote support to Ubuntu user?
[14:51] <nikolam> There is a girl with a broken package I woudl like to help, by connecting to her desktop
[14:51] <bekks> nikolam: Just use ssh.
[14:51] <deepanshu> nikolam :using ssh
[14:51] <bekks> nikolam: Using ssh, you and her can use "screen" so you can even show her what you are doing.
[14:51] <nikolam> bekks, dee-vee you all know that is impossible for home users with public dynamic IPS ,
[14:52] <nikolam> where ports are not open
[14:52] <bekks> nikolam: _And you know thats nonsense, since you can create port forwardings.
[14:52] <nikolam> bekks, no you can not, because she is girl and dosn't know sh* about configuring her router.
[14:53] <nikolam> besides, provider also mostly block incoming ports...
[14:53] <trndr> nikolam, you could try teamviewer
[14:53] <bekks> nikolam: Oh, I can. She cant.
[14:53] <nikolam> yup, that was the question
[14:53] <frank__> hello
[14:53] <nikolam> trndr, don't we have ANY remote support solution that works out-of-box that works o n Ubuntu?
[14:54] <blustarwolf> doesnt vnc have a trial version thats easy to install?
[14:54] <bekks> blustarwolf: vnc is opensource. No trial version whatsoever.
[14:54] <bekks> blustarwolf: And it is slow and insecure.
[14:54] <compdoc_> nikolam, vino comes installed, I think
[14:54] <compdoc_> but youd have to forward a port
[14:54] <nikolam> blustarwolf, vnc does not need trial, it just works there are packages, but not without open ports for ssh...
[14:55] <nikolam> vino, hmm compdoc_
[14:55] <bekks> nikolam: Which is wrong again. vnc itself uses different ports than ssh.
[14:55] <nikolam> no, without forwarding port
[14:55] <nikolam> bekks, yes, noone normal would use VNC without ssh tunnel, wouldn't you?
[14:55] <yuser> hi! we I activate the nvidia card  of my laptop in prime the desktop freezes after a while. Can somebody help me??
[14:55] <bekks> nikolam: vnc uses different ports than ssh. you can tunnel vnc through ssh, which doesnt change the fact that vnc isnt using port 22.
[14:56] <nikolam> bekks, yes Know that. and I know VNC is unencrypted by default
[14:56] <yuser> bekks I have done the steps that you said me installing the nvidia devices, and stills freezes after a while
[14:57] <nikolam> bekks, that also does not change we need something like TeamViewer for one-person support, installed by default
[14:57] <nikolam> Windoze have those "request for assistance" i think
[14:58] <bekks> nikolam: I dont need that at all.
[14:58] <MarcN> Has the vncviewer/vino unsupported security type ever get resolved?
[14:59] <nikolam> bekks, but people that need support and are using ubuntu, need remote support
[14:59] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone have an idea why ubuntu is lagging with like xchat and firefox open?
[15:00] <bekks> nikolam: and in most cases they can use vino or ssh.
[15:00] <nikolam> Armadillos, maybe doing update in the background, that is known to kill performance temporarely. use top to see what is acive
[15:01] <catz`> i have a question, is it possible to virtualize one server with different operating systems using (KVM virtualization) and then connect all of them with VNC like 10 monitors, 10 keyboards, 10 mouses so that anyone can access it's virtual machine without a computer?
[15:01] <nikolam> bekks, in most cases, user is behind routers and firewalls, so no ssh
[15:02] <belgianguy> hi, do .deb files register themselves in the sources file?
[15:02] <bekks> nikolam: which is wrong at least in most of all european countries
[15:02] <nikolam> catz`, yes. One might also use Virtualbox, because it has integrated RDP protocol for VMs
[15:02] <creature> Hello. I have some custom keyboard layout rules in /etc/default/keyboard, but Ubuntu/Unity isn't taking them into account. How do I fix that?
[15:03] <nikolam> bekks, witch is what you can not expect from random user and is mostly right in most european countries I know of.
[15:03] <bekks> nikolam: then you dont know much countries over here.
[15:04] <bekks> nikolam: and still, personally I dont need any software like that preinstalled. In case of need, just use teamviewer et al.
[15:04] <nikolam> bekks, and you don't know much what home users use
[15:04] <Guest42387> nikolam, +1
[15:04] <nikolam> bekks, I think it would be of much help to any new Ubuntu user seeking help remotely
[15:04] <bekks> nikolam: whatever. you have no clue about my knowledge. move on.
[15:05] <bekks> someone might tell him he just got plonked.
[15:05] <nikolam> bekks, I am not here to argue and to argue your personal needs, moove on
[15:05]  * Guest42387 with a masters degree it might be a little bit easier to open a port, yeah.
[15:06] <nikolam> bekks, I don't understand
[15:06] <bekks> Guest42387: master degrees have nothing to do with reading the manual of your router.
[15:06] <nikolam> bekks, you can not expect from ubuntu user to even have access to outer he uses...
[15:07] <nikolam> what if he/she uses 3G internet?
[15:08] <Guest42387> bekks, and the little girl is waiting for a practical solution in the meanwhile (we know about your knowledge, but that isn't helping the normal user, if you don't share ...)
[15:08] <nikolam> instead of UbuntuOne, Ubuntu should have some kind of remote desktop facility to help new users
[15:08] <zorael> Can anyone recommend a terminal mv tool that that displays transfer speeds, possibly with progress bars?
[15:08] <bekks> Guest42387: so ask that girl where the manual is - or help her, which I'm not going to do.
[15:08] <zorael> Excepting rsync, I guess
[15:09] <nikolam> Yes, problem arised when she updated from mirror , that was pre-selected during install
[15:09] <nikolam> and that is obviously not updated and she now have brokena package
[15:09] <Guest42387> bekks, as usual
[15:09] <nikolam> bekks, ok, leave it to me ok
[15:09] <bekks> Guest42387: so be her hero then. and dont hilight me anymore.
[15:11] <MACscr> if im running spamassassin as debian-spamd like so http://pastie.org/pastes/9233203/text?key=mgz1vqlao7nfmwrnssuig, should its update files be owned by debian-spamd or root?
[15:11] <MACscr> Also, when i run commands like a lint check, should i be doing something like so? su debian-spamd -c 'spamassassin -D --lint' 2> /tmp/lint
[15:11] <MACscr> the reason why i ask is that i dont think the user debian-spamd has access to the sa-update files that are being created
[15:11] <MACscr> since they are owned by root
[15:16] <catz`> ubuntu sucks on vmware /facepalm
[15:16] <catz`> it's the slowest os ever, on vmware
[15:16] <MACscr> lol, not really
[15:16] <bekks> catz`: then your vm config is wrong.
[15:16] <MACscr> yep
[15:17] <h00k> catz`: I'm running it right now and it's as fast as native, you may have something wrong.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> catz`: try LXDE or XFCE as the session, rather than Gnome + Compiz
[15:17] <catz`> i have vmware 2012, running ubuntu desktop, with 3gb ram and 2 cpus at 3ghz
[15:17] <catz`> i have also installed vmware tools
[15:17] <ikonia> that's hardware list - not config
[15:17] <bekks> catz`: there is no "vmware 2012" at all.
[15:18] <catz`> sorry, vmware 10
[15:18] <h00k> catz`: What about the hardware VMware Player/Workstation is on? That can certainly slow down any vm (Ubuntu or not)
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> catz`: try the lighter sessions, it will help speed things up
[15:18] <bekks> catz`: how many cores and how much ram does your host have? and why are you using compiz inside a vm which is known to be laggy?
[15:18] <catz`> and it's the slowest thing on earth, when i boot it takes me 10 seconds to open the terminal
[15:18] <catz`> it's vmware workstation 10
[15:19] <ikonia> it's most likley the visual pass through on the video card
[15:19] <catz`> bekks, 8gb ram, 4x3ghz, ssd
[15:19] <ikonia> (without doing any checking)
[15:19] <catz`> videocard gtx 790
[15:19] <ikonia> catz`: yeah, but the virtual video card is not
[15:20] <catz`> so what should i use?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> catz`: the video card is virtualized, so you will need to tweak video settings for 3D accelleration, or easier, use a non-compoziting session
[15:21] <ikonia> I'd suggest working through the problem, I was making a huge assumption based on common basic errors/regular lack of understanding
[15:23] <decci> I am facing this issue Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release E: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[15:23] <decci> please suggest
[15:23]  * catz` suggests a suggestion
[15:23]  * ikonia requests catz` focus's on his own problems rather than silly comments to others
[15:24]  * catz` is sorry
[15:24] <oscar_> Hi, I'm have a problem where X will randomly freeze. Can any one help me?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> decci: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> oscar_: have you tested RAM from Grub?
[15:24] <Armag3dd0n1> what could cause lagging?
[15:24] <sunnymolini> I can't get my public share to accept connections from Win7 machines on my network.
[15:24] <catz`> cya mates
[15:24] <sunnymolini> Running samba4 on Ubuntu 12.04 with smb.conf as posted (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544356/)
[15:24] <sunnymolini> conf condensed for easy reading.
[15:24] <sunnymolini> the public share path has been chowned to nobody:users
[15:24] <oscar_> nope
[15:24] <sunnymolini> When I point windows explorer in Win7 to \\servername , both the public and 'sunny' shares show up just fine.
[15:25] <sunnymolini> and I can R&W to the Sunny share, but when I try to access the Public share, I get the error "Windows cannot access \\servername\Public You do not have permission to access \\servername\Public."
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: why Samba4?
[15:25] <unopaste> sunnymolini you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:25] <Armag3dd0n1> firefox, chrome, xchat, there's always a delay :(
[15:25] <bishopstix> Does anyone know of a twitter app for ubuntu (birdie, polly, turpial, etc) that does not shutdown unexpectedly for such and such reason?
[15:25] <katiejeank> this is help channel?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> katiejeank: for Ubuntu, yes
[15:25] <oscar_> ActionParsnip: Nope
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: why are you using samba4 and not samba?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> oscar_: I suggest it as a starting place
[15:26] <oscar_> cool
[15:26] <katiejeank> can anyone help me w/ mounting issuses i'm having?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> katiejeank: with details, maybe
[15:28] <denkan> Hello, I edited my interface and put static ip and it worked good. Now when I reeboted it dosen't recognize my interface. restored the previous file but still dosen't work. any idea what I need to do?
[15:28] <xangua> bishopstix: most thitter clients have their days finished
[15:28] <katiejeank> ok cool, just booting up getting info i need
[15:28] <decci> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544703/
[15:28] <denkan> if I run ifconfig I can still see my interface
[15:28] <bishopstix> @xangua why you say so?
[15:28] <bishopstix> xangua: why you say so?
[15:29] <decci> ActionParsnip: Still the error
[15:29] <xangua> bishopstix: because twitter gave it's back to third party apps long ago
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> decci: try switching from the Indian server to the main server
[15:29] <ikonia> the indian server has IPv6 issues
[15:29] <ikonia> they are known
[15:29] <kremlin> hey watssap guyz.
[15:29] <bishopstix> xangua: so better use twitter with browser you mean?
[15:30] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone have any tips to stop ubuntu 14.04 lagging?
[15:30] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: The package name I installed was Samba, 4 is just the current version.
[15:30] <xangua> bishopstix: you could use tweetdeck or any of the other web clients
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: install xfce4, log off, log in to the XFCE session, profit
[15:30] <Guest59054> Hey guyz I need an invite to join EFnet server..
[15:30] <Armag3dd0n1> what is that?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: why did you not install the 'samba' package? Why did you install 'samba4'?
[15:30] <ikonia> Guest59054: not here you don't
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: its another desktop instead of Gnome
[15:31] <denkan> under internet connections my interace are greyed out for some reason
[15:31] <Armag3dd0n1> that's why it's lagging?
[15:31] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: I installed with the command sudo apt-get install samba
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: Compiz is teh default window manager and may be causing slowness
[15:31] <Guest59054> ikonia: how do you suppose where...I just need some assisstance..
[15:31] <decci> ActionParsnip: How to switch to Main server
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: then you are using samba, not samba4. Or do you now have both installed?
[15:32] <Armag3dd0n1> how do I change it? I like the look of ubuntu ?(:
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> decci: use software centre
[15:32] <ikonia> Guest59054: 1.) efnet server is not an invite server 2.) this channel supports ubuntu not "invites to different IRC networks"
[15:32] <decci> ActionParsnip: I have just commandline
[15:32] <decci> ActionParsnip: No GUI..since I installed server package
[15:32] <bishopstix> xangua: tweetdeck is a chrome app but no option for firefox?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> decci: run:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all instances of "in."
[15:32] <decci> ActionParsnip: Any idea how to shift to main server through commanlin
[15:32] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: Just samba I guess. I've been primarily a Windows user, so I'm used to providing version info with problem reports.
[15:33] <Armag3dd0n1> wait, how do I install unity 2d?
[15:33] <decci> ActionParsnip: What shall I replace in with?
[15:33] <Guest59054> ikonia: I was just hoping someone is in here connected to the same server..
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: then why did you not just right click a folder and click 'share', just like you do in Windows?
[15:33] <ikonia> Guest59054: I'm connected to it, but I don't see how that changes anything based on the information I've just given you
[15:33] <Guest59054> ikonia: so that one can be of assisstance..
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: run:   dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep samba          what is the output please?
[15:34] <thecha> how do you check your ping in ubuntu?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> thecha: same as in Windows
[15:34] <decci> ActionParsnip: : GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[15:34] <Guest59054> ikonia : How bout you just give some appropriate suggestions about the same..
[15:34] <xangua> bishopstix: http://tweetdeck.twitter.com/
[15:34] <decci> ActionParsnip: I removed just in from in.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:35] <ikonia> Guest59054: 1.) it's not an invite only server 2.) this channel supports ubuntu, not efnet
[15:35] <Bashing-om> thecha: For instance. To get a response from Google -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- .
[15:35] <sunnymolini> samba     samba-common   samba-common-bin   samba-doc
[15:35] <blustarwolf> thecha: traceroute can give time to destination
[15:35] <thecha> thank you
[15:35] <thecha> thank you
[15:35] <bishopstix> xangua: yes thanks saw that
[15:36] <decci> ActionParsnip: ?
[15:36] <decci> ActionParsnip: Is http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release the correct one
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: then you have samba installed, not samba4, samba4 is a different package
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> decci: as far as I know, yes
[15:37] <Guest59054> ikonia: I do understand its server 2...but I did connect to this freenode for information of how to connect to it...thats all...I need'nt have to bug everybody about..
[15:37] <decci> ActionParsnip: Get:92 http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release [49.6 kB] Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release E: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> thecha: have you never pinged in Windows?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> decci: I suggest you report a bug
[15:37] <Guest59054> ikonia: But since you are connected to it....how bout you give me an invite them..
[15:38] <ikonia> Guest59054: it's not invite only - so I don't understand why you think you need an invite, 2.) efnet has it's own support channels - use them, 3.) this hcannel supports ubuntu - not efnet irc channels
[15:38] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[15:38] <katiejeank> "an error occured while mounting /."
[15:38] <katiejeank> that's my prob
[15:38] <decci> ActionParsnip: :(
[15:38] <decci> ActionParsnip: What could be the issue
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: check the access on the Public share, grant your username explicit access if needed
[15:38] <katiejeank> i did something in archive manager i think
[15:39] <Guest59054> ikonia: Kindly propose me those support sites..please
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> decci: if you run: df -h; df -i    do you see 100% anywhere?
[15:39] <ikonia> Guest59054: no, sorry, enough now,
[15:39] <katiejeank> can anyone help with this?
[15:39] <ikonia> Guest59054: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544703/
[15:39] <ikonia> oops
[15:39] <ikonia> Guest59054: http://www.efnet.org/
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> katiejeank: boot to liveCD and you can fsck your partition there
[15:39] <ikonia> Guest59054: all info on there, please read
[15:39] <decci> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544752/
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> decci: ok thats good :)
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> decci: you have free space and lots of inodes free
[15:40] <decci> ActionParsnip: Yes
[15:40] <katiejeank> can i fsck in manual recovery?
[15:40] <Bashing-om> katiejeank: Maybe do a fisle system check abd see what results, Terminal commands -> sudo touch /forcefsck , sudo shutdown -r now <- .
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> katiejeank: if you can unmount the partition then yes
[15:40] <decci> ActionParsnip: I wonder why its giving NODATA
[15:40] <decci> ActionParsnip: Error
[15:40] <daftykins> katiejeank: boot a liveCD/USB
[15:41] <Guest59054> owk.! thanks. My apologize for the disturbia. chao.!
[15:43] <decci> ActionParsnip: Somwehere I read its becoz of proxy
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> decci: do you use a proxy?
[15:43] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: sudo chown sunny:sambashare Public
[15:43] <decci> ActionParsnip: Yes
[15:43] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: ls -l shwos that the change took
[15:44] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: restarted the smbd, but still cannot connect, same error in Windows
[15:46] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: In the conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544356/) I have guest only = yes set for that share.
[15:46] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: I believe that forces all connecting users to connect as the guest account.
[15:46] <sunnymolini> Which I have set to 'nobody'
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: I'd just omit the line, then anyone can walk in
[15:47] <sunnymolini> I already have nobody in the sambashare group, and have added it as a no-password user in samba enabled
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: try both ways, one will probably fly
[15:47] <daftykins> sunnymolini: what's Windows saying and what are your logs saying?
[15:48] <daftykins> sunnymolini: you've run 'testparm' presumably?
[15:54] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: I've done that now, and it's working. Thanks.
[15:54] <sunnymolini> I was worried about permission problems, but it's supposed to be public, so I've changed the create mask to  0777.
[15:54] <sunnymolini> don't anticipate any problems now.
[15:55] <sunnymolini> daftykins: I've actually never heard of testparm
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: samba is far from great, SFTP ftw :)
[15:56] <daftykins> sunnymolini: you would had you been to samba documentation :)
[15:56] <daftykins> you don't get samba throughput with SFTP
[15:57] <melodie> hi
[15:57] <melodie> I would like to try to compile the Ubuntu Builder tool from sources into Trusty. It is a Gambas written program, can someone tell me how to start with this? https://launchpad.net/~f-muriana/+archive/ubuntu-builder/+packages
[15:58] <decci> ActionParsnip: Yes I am behind proxy
[15:58] <melodie> I've got the sources in my directory, and trying to find out how to use the sources
[15:59] <sunnymolini> lol, burn. That's from a while ago.
[15:59] <ikonia> melodie isn't there a binary package for it ?
[15:59] <sunnymolini> daftykins: I spent a lot of time in the samba documentation looking through parameters.
[15:59] <SchrodingersScat> apt-get build-deps would probably help
[15:59] <ikonia> just blindly typing that isn't wise
[16:00] <mistawright> I have the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi installed. how would i tell distcc to use this compiler? I know how to specify a path but not sure where the path of the compiler would be
[16:00] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: when I wrote that, I had just come off a project where I was trying to jerryrig Samba for access from any device on the Internet and ended up with sftp.
[16:01] <sunnymolini> I've since come to see the throughput light as Daftykins points out.
[16:01] <melodie> ikonia not for Trusty and it is discontinued since march 10th :-(
[16:01] <sunnymolini> and I only need it now for Lan access.
[16:01] <ikonia> melodie so why was it discontinued ?
[16:01] <decci>  am facing this issue Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release E: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[16:01] <melodie> ikonia I show you:
[16:01] <ikonia> melodie: I'd class that as important information before even considering moving forward
[16:02] <melodie> ikonia https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-builder/+announcement/12508
[16:02] <melodie> ikonia I am not scared about anything related to compiling, I just want to find how to try to do that with this program
[16:02] <ikonia> melodie: ok, so it's a dead product due to changes in the distro and lack of time to maintain those changes
[16:03] <melodie> ikonia this is the reason why:
[16:03] <melodie> ikonia the reason why I want to make it work in trusty: http://bento-remix.phillw.net/i686/readme.txt
[16:03] <ikonia> melodie: you're not scared of anything related to compile it - but your not sure how to even start ?
[16:03] <melodie> I would like to see if it could still build an iso as I did for Precise
[16:03] <ikonia> melodie: this sounds like you should just accept it's dead
[16:04] <melodie> ikonia I don't know if I need to use the tools used when making a package or if there is a shorter way (dh-make or else perhaps). I never compiled a gambas program so far
[16:05] <wilee-nilee> decci, I think relevant, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/234246
[16:05] <ikonia> melodie: I'd class that as a dead toolset and reading the txt file, other people have marked it as dead and are looking for "other tools"
[16:05] <ikonia> which seems to put that project in no-mans land
[16:07] <savid> I closed my laptop lid late last night around 3:30am. Looked at my syslog and thought this seemed odd: http://sprunge.us/FgOQ
[16:07] <melodie> ikonia too bad :)
[16:07] <savid> Why is my computer waiting 5 hours to actually go to sleep?
[16:07] <savid> (actually I closed the lid at 3:18am)
[16:07] <melodie> ikonia where have you read about the other people seeking for other tools?
[16:08] <ikonia> melodie: in the text file you linked me to
[16:09] <Armag3dd0n1> can anyone link me to ubuntu 12.04 x64bit and 32bit? NOT 12.04.4!!!
[16:09] <melodie> ikonia the readme.txt ?
[16:09] <melodie> :D
[16:10] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone?
[16:10] <decci> Armag3dd0n1: I can
[16:10] <Armag3dd0n1> ?
[16:10] <decci> Armag3dd0n1: Dont forget to thank me http://iso.linuxquestions.org/ubuntu/ubuntu-12.04/#x86_64
[16:10] <melodie> ikonia if this is the http://bento-remix.phillw.net/i686/readme.txt text file you are talking about, I am the author of the text. ;)
[16:11] <Mike__> Armag3dd0n1: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:11] <ikonia> melodie: ah, I see that's why you are "looking for others"
[16:11] <melodie> ikonia :D
[16:11] <Armag3dd0n1> they're all x64 m8
[16:11] <melodie> ikonia I would like to have a fast try at it, nothing very bad if that is not possible, but I would have liked to try it
[16:12] <JimmyNeutron> Anyone have any issues after the most recent update as of last night?  After running apt-get dist-upgrade, my system won't boot up anymore.  This is om the Gigabyte Brix Pro
[16:12] <JimmyNeutron> 14.04 LTS Desktop
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> Not Found
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> The requested URL /releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso was not found on this server.
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at uk.releases.ubuntu.com Port 80
[16:13] <melodie> ikonia http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/  || in order to do the same with Trusty I will need to learn the basis and it will take a long time, I can wait or maybe find a way around in between, but recompiling ubuntu builder would have been a nice experience
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> well that helped :/
[16:13] <SchrodingersScat> Armag3dd0n1: should check torrent dht, see if anyone is still seeding
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> Mike_: is 12.04 there not .4?
[16:14] <ikonia> melodie personally, I believe depending on a dead project is unwise and it's better to find a solution that can go forward, but that's just my personal view
[16:14] <melodie> JimmyNeutron have you tried the safe mode boot and see what you can do from there?
[16:14] <Armag3dd0n1> Not Found
[16:14] <Armag3dd0n1> The requested URL /releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent was not found on this server.
[16:14] <Armag3dd0n1> Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at uk.releases.ubuntu.com Port 80
[16:14] <sl33k_> How do I change my theme? I am on Megacity DE
[16:14] <Armag3dd0n1> for all o them
[16:14] <melodie> ikonia not false, but the project died very recently, so if I could have it working perhaps I could interest someone to take on
[16:14] <melodie> who knows?
[16:15] <SchrodingersScat> Armag3dd0n1: correct, ubuntu has moved on, you probably need to find another source, probably a good idea to double check hashes
[16:15] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: Is there a good reason why you need 12.04 instead of 12.04.4?
[16:15] <ikonia> melodie looking at the reasons it died "changes in the OS", I'd guess "it's dead for a solid reason", but again, from my small research and personal opinion only
[16:15] <melodie> Armag3dd0n1 for what reason do you need an outdated version?
[16:15] <Armag3dd0n1> no but 14.04 is lagging too much
[16:16] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: 12.04.4 is 12.04 with all updates included.
[16:16] <melodie> ikonia he needed to regain the time used for his personal life
[16:16] <Armag3dd0n1> so it has 2d too? 12.04.4?
[16:17] <SchrodingersScat> Armag3dd0n1: and as soon as you (i think) dist-upgrade, it will try to go to .4 anyway, afaik
[16:17] <melodie> and he didn't care about the efforts done by all the people who reported bugs in his former repos at code google he just removed it without warning. His program was about to become the best of it's kind though
[16:17] <Mike__> Armag3dd0n1: Sorry but there isn't 12.04
[16:17] <Pici> SchrodingersScat: pretty much.
[16:17] <Mike__> only 12.04.4
[16:17] <Armag3dd0n1> which release should i get for 64bit and 32bit without lagging?
[16:17] <melodie> Armag3dd0n1 yes there have been
[16:18] <someHuman> How do I enable scroll-through-tabs using mouse scroll wheel?
[16:18] <melodie> Mike__ yes, there have been several in between
[16:18] <melodie> Armag3dd0n1 several 12.04.xy
[16:18] <Armag3dd0n1> i confused
[16:18] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: whichever matches your processor.
[16:19] <Armag3dd0n1> I have an old machine with 3gb ram and 2gb ram, I installed 14.04 but it's lagging like mad.
[16:19] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: I don't know what melodie is saying either.
[16:19] <melodie> Armag3dd0n1 what machine do you have (proc/ram/graphics) and what programs do you use? does it lag all the time?
[16:19] <melodie> Pici : 12.04.1 then newer then newer then 12.04.4
[16:20] <Armag3dd0n1> dual core, 3gb ram, 160gb hdd on an old pc, 14.04 on that. 2gb ram, 60gb hdd and single core with 14.04 on that
[16:20] <Pici> melodie: What?
[16:20] <Armag3dd0n1> 1 is a desktop and the other is a notebook
[16:20] <Mike__> Armag3dd0n1: Try Crunchbang: http://crunchbang.org/  . It's very fast
[16:20] <melodie> Pici never mind
[16:20] <Armag3dd0n1> I like ubuntu though lol
[16:20] <Armag3dd0n1> i love it infact
[16:20] <melodie> so do I
[16:21] <Armag3dd0n1> 12.04 has 2d unity
[16:21] <Bashing-om> Mike__: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ ; 12.04.1 is down at the bottom of the list.
[16:21]  * Pici gives up
[16:22] <Mike__> Bashing-om: You want to send this to Armag3dd0n1, right?
[16:22] <Bashing-om> Mike__: Yeah, I got finger happy .
[16:23] <Bashing-om> Armag3dd0n1: ^^ : http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ .
[16:23] <Mike__> :-)
[16:23] <Armag3dd0n1> thank you, downloading now! you think it will lag as much as 14.04?
[16:24] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: I highly suggest using a 12.04.4 install over 12.04.1.  You will save time downloading, and you will more up-to-date security fixes out of the box.
[16:24] <forrest> Has anyone noticed an attempt to pxe boot on shutdown for Trusty after the latest kernel update to 3.13.0-27?
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> Armag3dd0n1, We can't just answer that empirically, think about it.
[16:25] <Armag3dd0n1> will 12.04.4 have 2d unity?
[16:25] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: If 12.04 has it. Yes.
[16:25] <Bashing-om> Armag3dd0n1: Well, from what I gather, 14.04 is "generaly" smoother and faster then 12.04 was . However, a lot depends on the graphics situation.
[16:25] <Armag3dd0n1> i haz a crap gpu it says something about an addition driver or something
[16:25] <Armag3dd0n1> idk
[16:25] <Armag3dd0n1> im new to ubuntu
[16:25] <JimmyNeutron> melodie, Yeah...rebooting back into the old kernel and it works.
[16:26] <JimmyNeutron> I need to read up on what the new kernel has and did
[16:26] <melodie> JimmyNeutron very good! what about a bug report against the new kernel?
[16:27] <Bashing-om> Armag3dd0n1: IF, and I say IF you are running a legacy ATI graphics card .. release 12.04.1 has support (proprietary) graphics drivers .
[16:27] <JimmyNeutron> melodie, I want to verify it more before opening a case.
[16:28] <someHuman> Hello!
[16:28] <someHuman> I can't use my Chrome properly, this shows up http://imgur.com/t4O9wtw
[16:28] <khildin> someHuman, then follow the advice given....
[16:29] <the_drow> Hi guys. I have a Samsung Series 9 with an aweful BIOS.
[16:30] <the_drow> It did not recognize ubuntu when installing in dual boot mode so we formatted the computer and installed ubuntu from scratch
[16:30] <the_drow> Now that bricked the computer
[16:31] <bekks> Installing Ubuntu does not brick anything.
[16:31] <bekks> Please describe the exact issue you are having.
[16:31] <forrest> the)drow is the bios inaccessible?
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, W8 from the factory originally?
[16:31] <the_drow> Well the computer is now bricked. I can't boot ubuntu
[16:31] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: Yup
[16:31] <bekks> the_drow: "bricked" in terms of a computer means it doesnt even get to the BIOS anymore, besides not booting.
[16:31] <forrest> also again, no one has seen issues with Trusty on the latest kernel (3.13.0-27-generic) with an attempt to pxe boot over ipv4/6 on shutdown?
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, You aware of UEFI, and the persession boot menu?
[16:32] <bekks> the_drow: So insert a live cd and repair your grub installation.
[16:32] <the_drow> forrest: The BIOS is accessible. GRUB isn't
[16:32] <bekks> the_drow: So it isnt bricked at all, it just doesnt boot.
[16:32] <forrest> then the box isn't bricked, do what bekks suggested and fix grub
[16:32] <the_drow> bekks: dropping to the grub shell now
[16:32] <bekks> !grub2 | the_drow
[16:32] <bekks> the_drow: So you can even access grub.
[16:32] <bekks> the_drow: the grub shell is part of grub.
[16:32] <bekks> !uefi | the_drow
[16:32] <the_drow> Ok, I'm on the grub shell
[16:33] <bakflash> is mv the right tool to move a huge amount of data from one drive to another? (around 3TB, mostly files of 3-10gb, some minor files around 10-2000k)
[16:33] <bekks> bakflash: cp, rsync, nautilus, etc. - whatever you like most.
[16:34] <bakflash> bekks: well my question aims on to speed at most actually. I should had mention that
[16:34] <user123321> What's the best IDE for Ubuntu?
[16:34] <bakflash> user123321: which programming language? this question is actually very subjective
[16:34] <user123321> C++
[16:34] <user123321> And, PHP?
[16:34] <bekks> bakflash: the speed is determined by the source and target medium, not by the application you are using.
[16:35] <bekks> !best | user123321
[16:35] <bakflash> user123321: eclipse, kdevelop for cpp. I like jetbrains tools for PHP (I think its called phpstorm)
[16:35] <bekks> "best" relies on your personal opinion, not on facts.
[16:35] <user123321> I see.
[16:35] <user123321> How is netbeans?
[16:35] <bekks> user123321: Take a look yourself.
[16:36] <user123321> Cool. :)
[16:36] <khildin> user123321, if you speak no Chinese and you do speak good French, what is the 'best' foreign language?
[16:37] <bakflash> bekks: well, that it depends source/target was clear for me ;) But I've read many discussions about rsync, scp, .. when moving was to another computer... Anyway
[16:37] <melodie> khildin for what purpose?
[16:37] <TeraJL> hi there, i'm trying to install synapse http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/synapse-gnome-do-launcher-app-review-ubuntu but the PPA is not working on 14.04(trusty) but i saw that i can change the ppa from trusty to saucy, but my when i try to change on "software sources" the ppa the software sources crashes and don't change, is this a known bug? and how can i change it mannualy? thanks
[16:37] <user123321> hmm.
[16:38] <khildin> melodie, right... :)
[16:38] <ikonia> TeraJL don't install software from other versions
[16:38] <ikonia> TeraJL: use only software designed for the version you are running
[16:38] <user123321> So I've used both Netbeans and Eclipse in Windows, might I get the same experience in Ubuntu as well?
[16:39] <bekks> user123321: You might - or might not. Take a look yourself.
[16:39] <TeraJL> ikonia: if synapse crash i don't think it would be a huge of a problem
[16:39] <ikonia> TeraJL: it is a problem
[16:39] <user123321> bekks, Oki. :)
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> TeraJL, I use synapse fro the ubuntu repos, has always worked.
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> from*
[16:43] <the_drow> It's repairing the boot
[16:43] <TeraJL> wilee-nilee: but it's missing on 14.04, there is only synapse-core/testing
[16:43] <the_drow> What happens if I reinstall windows 8?
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> TeraJL, Not here, do you have all the repos open?
[16:44] <bekks> the_drow: Why would you reinstall it, instead of repairing the boot environment, after reading the three articles given?
[16:44] <bekks> !dualboot | the_drow
[16:44] <the_drow> bekks: Because we erased it already in attempt to install ubuntu standalone
[16:45] <TeraJL> wilee-nilee: i think so, the problem is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/synapse-project/+bug/1288839
[16:45] <user123321> Question. If the Ubuntu Software centre shows Netbeans 7.0.1, but Netbeans website shows 8.0. What should I get?
[16:45] <Bashing-om> the_drow: Thhn Win8 over writes the booting code, and you (re-)install grub boot manager once more.
[16:45] <the_drow> Bashing-om: good to know
[16:45] <Bashing-om> Then*
[16:46] <bakflash> user123321: https://netbeans.org/community/releases/80/install.html
[16:46] <user123321> Bashing-om, If it's not in Ubuntu Shoftware Centre, what does it mean?
[16:46] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone;  i need crack some WEP keys to show my boss its not worth having as security.  i have ubuntu 14.04;  with a lenovo t420 laptop;  whta to do next?
[16:46] <user123321> Bashing-om, There's old version :|
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> TeraJL, Strange, but I install during development.
[16:47] <bakflash> lol
[16:47] <Bashing-om> user123321: Short answer, If ya have to ask, do not do it !
[16:48] <user123321> Oops, wrong nick, sorry.
[16:48] <the_drow> Well, there is an error: http://paste2.org/NP5I17jv
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> arooni-mobile, Not a ubuntu support issue.
[16:48] <Bashing-om> user123321: 'till you know yourself better, best always to remain under the ubrella of protection that is ubuntu's package management system. Else - no support -.
[16:49] <the_drow> boot repair can't fix my boot :(
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> arooni-mobile, This channel does not show you how to crack, no matter your supposed intentions, we can't really know if true.
[16:49] <user123321> Bashing-om, Cool, thanks.
[16:50] <the_drow> This seems to be the error: chroot /mnt/boot-sav/sda2 update-grub -y Unrecognized option `-y'
[16:50] <Bashing-om> user123321: : )
[16:52] <the_drow> Does anyone know what's wrong?
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, On the bootrepair web page is a link to the developers thread, where thsy focus on this, put the bootinfo summary there.
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> they*
[16:54] <user123321> Does anyone have experience with Geany in Ubuntu?
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, right below you not working -y is the same command run without it.
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> your*
[16:56] <lucido> minecraft crashed on launch. installed from ppa:minecraft-installer-peeps/minecraft-installer  in ubuntu 14.04, here's the crashreport: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545161/
[16:56] <lucido> what's wrong I have glxgears working?
[16:57] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: Well you are right but I still can't boot
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, yes we know take a look at the thread I suggest from the web page, these guys are the ones you want, I used to be there I know. ;)
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, There are only a couple of people here who know the UEFI it is new and a bit more complex, so you have to adapt.
[17:00] <bakflash> lucido: why you do not use the official installer?
[17:00] <lucido> bakflash, I'll try
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> lucido, ppa's are not supported and mind craft is 3rd party, technically not supported.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> err minecraft, Freudian slip
[17:02] <lucido> bakflash, exact samae error message when using the downloaded jar
[17:03] <lucido> what is this: OpenGL: ~~ERROR~~ RuntimeException: No OpenGL context found in the current thread.
[17:04] <lucido> so minecraft is not supposed to run on ubuntu?
[17:04] <bakflash> lucido: nope, it runs flawless. but it seems you are missing opengl
[17:05] <tgm4883> lucido: I run minecraft just fine, but I didn't use that PPA
[17:05] <bakflash> lucido: what GPU do you use?
[17:05] <rigo> hi
[17:06] <rigo> pretty please tell me how to install an (x)ubuntu on a laptop without optical drive from usb stick. i did the following:
[17:06] <lucido> bakflash, G45 I think, here's glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545286/
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> rigo, try to put all in one post
[17:06] <ARM9> what's a good IDE for general web programming (html, css, js, php, whatever), preferably not KDE reliant
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[17:06] <cipherboy> Hey, people's thoughts on the truecrypt?
[17:07] <tgm4883> !OT | cipherboy
[17:07] <bakflash> ARM9: phpstorm / webstorm
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> cipherboy, Yeah #truecrypt their channel.
[17:07] <ARM9> anjuta rings a bell
[17:07] <cipherboy> Ahh apologies, wrong channel!
[17:07] <ARM9> bakflash I don't think webstorm is within my budget, is phpstorm some sort of slim version of webstorm?
[17:07] <rigo> wilee-nilee: it is hard. cause i tried loads of things. however: installed from usb stick  after reboot the system is there but not booting. there is /dev/sda1 sda2 and sda3 on sda1 is only EFI directory but i dont have efi bios i guess this is the problem.
[17:08] <bakflash> ARM9: nah, webstorm is mostly JS as far as I know. But phpstorm can handle JS too. Isn't there a community edition of webstorm? When not I'm sorry
[17:08] <ARM9> don't be, it's good to get suggestions
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo| rigo run and pastebin the script
[17:09] <ARM9> I'll dig for a community edition
[17:09] <rigo> in the matter of fact i had a working version but i reinstalled w8.1 but i tought i go back to ubuntu. no matter if gpt or mbr if i delete all the partitions or not. every time the same result.
[17:09] <rigo> im on it brb
[17:09] <bakflash> ARM9: oh wow, there is no community edition of both IDE's.. Well there was one sometime ago. I use the premium edition for a long time now. I love jetbrains tools ;)
[17:10] <ARM9> well, bakflash webstorm has a few free options, but I think you have to apply
[17:10] <ARM9> good thing I'm planning on working on an open source project :D
[17:10] <ARM9> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/buy/buy.jsp#openSource hm, a bit stricter than I had anticipated
[17:11] <lucido> bakflash, G45 doesn't support opengl?
[17:11] <lucido> I'm using the i915 driver
[17:12] <bakflash> lucido: Well I dont think you can play minecraft with an intel g45 express chipset
[17:12] <lucido> bakflash, shiit why not?
[17:13] <ikonia> lucido: no need for bad language please
[17:13] <lucido> could be just a lwjgl issue
[17:13] <rigo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545318
[17:13] <lucido> ikonia, sorry I ment to say sheat
[17:13] <ikonia> lucido: please don't try to be clever, it's just a reasonable request to not use bad langauge.
[17:14] <rigo> i already altered some stuff. but i can reinstall the system once again if neccesary...
[17:16] <creature> I'd like to bind the 'launch terminal' command to my keyboard's "Super_L" key (the Windows key). I had this on my old laptop, but when I try to bind it in the keyboard settings it just goes back to 'Disabled'. How can I do this?
[17:16] <Bashing-om> rigo: I am not the smartest kid on the block, but, GPT patitioning = efi booting, and a EFI partition is required.
[17:18] <tgm4883> lucido: what version of opengl does that GPU support?
[17:18] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?
[17:18] <rigo> i am also not a linux god. but i tought if i erase everything and start allover from the beginning it should work. it is not. so is it a good starting point if i totally wipe out the hdd with dd?
[17:19] <ikonia> rigo: what's actually your issue ?
[17:19] <rigo> is the mbr partition table ok or should i use gpt instead?
[17:19] <rigo> i cant install the system or to be more specific i cna install the sys but it is not booting up.
[17:19] <lucido> tgm4883, not sure, glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545286/
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> rigo, You have a gpt partition table but you are not installed with gpt, a bit hackneyed altogether.
[17:19] <lucido> tgm4883, 1.4?
[17:20] <rigo> aaand how to install with gpt?
[17:20] <Bashing-om> rigo: Chance are that all that is wrong is the boot code is not properly installed to that efi partition. I have no experience with EFI, but I can probably hunt up the tutorial to install in EFI,
[17:20] <tgm4883> lucido: give me a minute to look it up
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Use nicks every time you answer someone here. NOt sure never done it, I would use a msdos table myself and call it a day, if this is not a uefi computer.
[17:21] <rigo> wilee-nilee: it is not an uefi it has the old bios. is it ok if i create the msdos partiton with gparted?
[17:22] <ARM9> what's a good place to put programs that require a lot of space that I want to symlink to /usr/bin
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Yes this will wipe the drive however.
[17:22] <ikonia> ARM9: you shouldn't need to symlink
[17:22] <ARM9> and by a lot of space I mean tons of config files and other cruft
[17:22] <ikonia> ARM9: the ubuntu packages will put them in their hardcoded package places
[17:22] <ikonia> ARM9: just allocate space correctly
[17:23] <ARM9> ikonia I do because I need to keep it in a sub directory lest I want to litter the place with config files
[17:23] <ARM9> ikonia installing eclipse manually
[17:23] <ARM9> since the version in repo is like 2 years old
[17:23] <ikonia> ARM9: if you have a manual installer - you can put it whereever you want.
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> rigo, On occasion though gpt leaves remnants that need to be cleaned out so be aware if the in the install the HD does not show, if you go this route.
[17:23] <ARM9> /usr/bin with symlink it is then
[17:24] <ikonia> ARM9: /usr/bin is supposed to be just for binaries, however if you want it there, you can put it there
[17:24] <rigo> wilee-nilee: i guess i already tried to do that. nevermind i do it again. i have time :) well. that can be the point. can you tell me how to clean out the remains of the gpt?
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> rigo, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html  is a good way.
[17:25] <ARM9> ikonia right, so that's why I was asking for a good place to put it, how does /home/foo/bin sound
[17:25] <ikonia> ARM9: thats your home directory, you can put it anywhere you want
[17:25] <ikonia> ARM9: it's just a disk, the file systems are yours to use as you see fit
[17:25] <rigo> wilee-nilee: looks fine. i give a try and come back in 30mins
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> ARM9: not heard 'cruft' for a while :)
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Cool, hope to see you installed and happy. ;)
[17:26] <rigo> :)
[17:26] <ARM9> ActionParsnip tis a nice word
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, hows about bloated. ;)
[17:27] <ARM9> bloat and cruft, crud and thunder
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> lol
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> ARM9: When you see the white whale :)
[17:29] <lucido> tgm4883, it supports opengl2.0
[17:30] <tgm4883> lucido: thanks for looking, work came up. What version of java are you using?
[17:30] <tgm4883> lucido: looks like 1.7, have you tried 1.8?
[17:31] <lucido> tgm4883, not likely that that is the problem
[17:32] <tgm4883> lucido: While I agree with you, Java SE 8 is listed as a system requirement of Minecraft
[17:32] <lucido> tgm4883, hmm, I'll try
[17:32] <tgm4883> lucido: or try an older version of minecraft
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> lucido: the webupd8 ppa was updated today with newer java
[17:33] <lucido> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:33] <basketball> my wifi is connecting to wifi can i share my internet to my ethernet only desktop via ethernet
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> basketball: yes
[17:34] <basketball> like conect one end of ethernet to laptop and the other to windows desktop
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> !ics
[17:34] <basketball> and send the wireless internet
[17:34] <basketball> ActionParsnip,  can you walk me through it
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> basketball: what do you think that guide does?
[17:34] <basketball> it is easier to have someone say it in channel can you please
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> basketball: so you wnat me to copy and paste what it says in that link into the channel?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> basketball: are you serios?
[17:38] <bakflash> I want to move many files (almost 1tb) from one the another drive. This is getting really slow (like 0.1kb/s). My first thoughts was: wow, one of these drives seems to be broken. After many fiddling and checking I've found out when I copy from another drive to one of these drives (or copying from one of those drives to another) its pretty fast, the drives seems to be okay. Any ideas? This is getting pretty weird for me
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> bakflash you can use rsync or a gui that uses it like grsync
[17:42] <talsamon> bakflash,  try rsync
[17:42] <basketball> ActionParsnip,  i am confused
[17:43] <Guest30991> hey guys, i just flushed winblows for ubuntu and everything is great, i'm just wondering is there a way i can control my webcam pan and zoom settings, thanks for your time
[17:43] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: I'm only ssh'ing into it, so I can't use a GUI ;) but you + talsamon: good idea to use rsync, I'll try this
[17:43] <legion> Can someone tel me what KALI is?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> !info firestarter
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> awww
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> Guest30991, Using deprecating modification od OS's is not tolerated here.
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> of OS's names*
[17:44] <bekks> !kali | legion
[17:44] <lucido> tgm4883, upgraded java, same difference
[17:44] <genii> !guvcview | Guest30991
[17:45] <genii> Bah.
[17:45] <genii> !info guvcview | Guest30991
[17:46] <mikebuntu> hey guys, i just flushed winblows for ubuntu and everything is great, i'm just wondering is there a way i can control my webcam pan and zoom settings, thanks for your time
[17:46] <basketball> ActionParsnip,
[17:46] <basketball> how do i do it
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> basketball: all i can suggest is grab a youtube video. You do realise the system will need to be on to give web access, could get a wireless router and run it in client mode to extend to th system, or just run a cable from the main trouter
[17:46] <kdz> how do i delete a read only file in ubuntu console
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> mikebuntu, Use the correct name for windows the fandoi rhetoric is not appreciated here.
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> fanboi*
[17:47] <genii> mikebuntu: Try the package guvcview
[17:47] <mikebuntu> oh i'm sorry ab out that
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> basketball: not something ive setup, i use a hard router. lots easier and uses less power
[17:47] <mikebuntu> thanks genii
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> mikebuntu, Thanks, not a huge deal, but myself that gets a free ignore. ;)
[17:48] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: talsamon: rsync --progress [..] shows that its pending from ~50mb/s to 100mb/s to some kb and I can not cancel it then.. I dunno but this is weird for me, still not sure if it could be the drive
[17:48] <bakflash> it's kind of.. frozen
[17:48] <mikebuntu> sorry guys
[17:48] <joanne2014> HI
[17:48] <kdz> aww ignored, how do i delete a read only file console?
[17:49] <rigo> wilee-nilee: another one. depends the installation on the installation media? i mean can it be bad, if it is formatted wrong or has bad partition table?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> bakflash, I just do this with local drives, under your circumstances I would not really know the issues.
[17:50] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: na wait, this is still local!
[17:50] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: I'm just on a server via ssh, that's all.
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Install media should be good, you can check the sum of the iso and a loaded usb or cd. You can format a usb including it's partitio table.
[17:51] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: and this 'weird behavior' is still the same with rsync. can copy from/to one of those drives pretty fast when I use a third drive as source/target
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> bakflash, I just use grsync, I have about the same data as backups and two HD, I use grsync.
[17:51] <Bashing-om> kdz: What file are you wanting to delete ? normally a read only file - not in your home directory - is a system file. Not to mess around with.
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> bakflash, Two HD one is a backup of the backups
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> and I'm not even OCD, lol
[17:52] <kdz> Bashing-om rtorrent died and its a .lock file
[17:52] <kdz> if killed the program but the file is still there
[17:53] <Bashing-om> kdz: If one wants to change the permissions on a file, 'chmod' is the tool to use, see -> man chmod .
[17:54] <kdz> Bashing-om what would the command be ?
[17:55] <Bashing-om> kdz: If all you are going to do is delete that file, then -> sudo chmod 777 <file_name> <- will do the trick.
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> kdz: try:    sudo fuser -vki filename
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> kdz: obviously change 'filename' for the actual name
[17:57] <kdz> chmod: changing permissions of `rtorrent.lock': Read-only file system
[17:57] <kdz> chmod 777 and fuser didnt work
[17:58] <phillyj> anyone know why aticonfig command gives an error after install fglrx? I found aticonfig in a dir under fglrx but...i don't know, so confusing
[18:06] <Bashing-om> kdz: " Read-only file system" means you have a system problem, most likely the system set it's self to 'ro' to protect it's self. Run a file system check and see.
[18:08] <cortexman> my laptop is booting into some kind of root maintenance shell. in my home directory there are two files, README.txt and Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop. the README.txt says "THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA. [...] From the command line, run "encryptfs-mount-private". However, I do not have encryptfs-mount-private installed...
[18:09] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Maybe as sudo aticonfig --initial is depreciated, did you use -> sudo amdconfig --initial <-- ?
[18:13] <Rick__> Hello?
[18:14] <Rick__> Can someone help me with a quick question?
[18:14] <bekks> Depends on your question.
[18:15] <litropy> !ask
[18:16] <phillyj> Bashing-om: hmm, i see. I will look into that when I get home
[18:16] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?
[18:17] <Rick__> My terminal will allow me to type in commands but when it comes to to enter my password it freezes up and will not allow me to type. Can someone explain this?
[18:18] <Bashing-om> Rick__: For security reasons, when you enter your pass word there is no response to the screen, just enter your pass word blindly and hit the enter key.
[18:19] <mish4> I am  using Ubuntu 14.04 and keep getting "waiting for printer to finish" when I try to print to the network printer. Using mac to print to the network printer works fine. Any ideas?
[18:19] <Rick__> Bashing-om: thank you.
[18:20] <Bashing-om> Rick__: : D ., welcome to our world.
[18:21] <Rick__> Bashing-om: Thanks man. I've always been curious about ubuntu so. I threw together a computer and decided to get down to brass tacks and just jump feet first into it.
[18:21] <diamonds> is it possible to access one's iphone files from the shell?
[18:21] <diamonds> where is it mounted to by default?
[18:21] <diamonds> I have a path in finder like "afc://a80339c6f0a64fd5d0184339e:3/"
[18:21] <ikonia> diamonds: apple support - not good,
[18:21] <diamonds> I know
[18:21] <ikonia> diamonds: it's a bit of a moving target,
[18:22] <ikonia> so try to find a solution you can depend on
[18:22] <diamonds> but a moment ago I was able to pull a .sqlite file off my iphone
[18:22] <diamonds> then had to restart X & now I can't access anything on the phone in that way
[18:22] <ikonia> diamonds: I think that's some sort of index
[18:22] <ikonia> diamonds: you can't access the file system directly
[18:22] <Bashing-om> Rick__: That is the way you do it. use it and learn it ( if it ain't broke you have not tweaked it enough ) .
[18:22] <ikonia> I've only seen it done sucesfully with a jail broken device and ssh
[18:24] <kleinerdrache> hi there, what is a good way to tag nef raws with xmp?
[18:26] <ysh> hello is it possible to resize a live non-lvm partition ?
[18:26] <litropy> diamonds, http://techland.time.com/2013/08/27/bittorrent-sync-for-ios-iphone-to-computer-backups-with-a-catch/
[18:26] <ikonia> ysh: yes, there are risks, and normally need to use a live media system to reconfigure it, if it's a root or "in use" file system
[18:27] <litropy> diamonds, there are better resources - that was just a quick Google. But you get the idea.
[18:27] <ysh> its a google compute instance... they dont have lvm on there preconfigured VM images :/
[18:28] <katiejeank> having issues w/ live boot usb
[18:28] <ikonia> ysh: they will be hard sized partitions
[18:28] <ysh> yes 11GB
[18:28] <Armag3dd0n1> ubuntu 12.04.4 keeps saying something about swap not mounted
[18:28] <Armag3dd0n1> going back to 14.04 oh yeah :p
[18:28] <ikonia> ysh: you can't resize that as they will be locked/presented from the physical host
[18:29] <katiejeank> can someone help me?
[18:29] <Rick__> Hello Katie. Just toss out your question and someone will help if they can :3
[18:30] <katiejeank> my live usb isn't booting
[18:30] <ysh> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/yj0nMYKs
[18:30] <ysh> fdisk output
[18:30] <ikonia> ysh: what does that matter ? re-read what I said
[18:31] <ysh> :(
[18:31] <ysh> any workaround ?
[18:31] <ikonia> no
[18:31] <ikonia> again READ what I said
[18:31] <Rick__> Katie, what is it saying?
[18:31] <ysh> i read that :(
[18:33] <katiejeank> well, my prob is "the disk drive for /tmp is not ready or not present"  Im trying to use the live usb to recover, but it flat out isn't booting, just a black screen w/ a blinking cursor
[18:34] <Rick__> Sounds like the live usb is not loading properly. Have you tried to re-install the live usb then trying the fresh installed version?
[18:34] <katiejeank> i was going to install arch linux in a partition for fun, but had issues doing that, and since then haven't been able to boot back into ubuntu, frustrating
[18:35] <katiejeank> Rick__: ^and yeah, thats what i did Rick__
[18:36] <daftykins> katiejeank: perhaps you might have used nomodeset in the past?
[18:36] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[18:36] <katiejeank> maybe, not sure
[18:36] <daftykins> worth a go.
[18:36] <katiejeank> daftykins: not sure
[18:36] <jasonsw> i lost my gnome panel clock and other buttons
[18:37] <jasonsw> i think after an update
[18:37] <jasonsw> 13.10
[18:37] <jasonsw> any ideas ?
[18:37] <jasonsw> killall unity-panel-service doesn't help
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> jasonsw, What exact desktop is this?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> unity?
[18:39] <katiejeank> daftykins:what is nomodset? u have a command i can use in recover read/write mode?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> katiejeank, Have you had a chance to look at the link?
[18:45] <katiejeank> wilee-nilee: looking now
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> katiejeank, Could it be you loaded the arch grub into the mbr, is arch gone?
[18:45] <anonymous> hello
[18:46] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> owen1, in 12.04 I found I had to just run in the cli  xset -dpms ; xset s off  I was never able to get it to stop the suspend
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> automatically
[18:50] <asker345> hello, i need help accessing the windows recovery console while ubuntu is installed.
[18:51] <asker345> F8 is not working after grub.
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Can you be more detailed?
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> asker345, F8 would be at the bios splash to work.
[18:52] <owen1> wilee-nilee: awesome. i'll try xset -dpms ; xset s off
[18:52] <asker345> wilee-nilee, but theres grub interrupting it
[18:52] <katiejeank> wilee-nilee: yeah, about arch, i couldn't install it, something failed and just ended up at a terminal screen
[18:52] <asker345> wilee-nilee, so what can i do in this case?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Power on and start tapping the f8 like your were at war with an enemy.
[18:53] <asker345> wilee-nilee, even before grub?
[18:53] <katiejeank> wilee-nilee: then after that, can't boot ubuntu
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Yes
[18:54] <asker345> ok, will be right back i guess ;)
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> katiejeank, Did you resize ubuntu with the arch install, and are you sure ubuntu is still there?
[18:55] <synth_> i accidentally upgraded libevent and am now getting this error when using pymongo:
[18:55] <synth_> ugh
[18:55] <katiejeank> when i reboot off the hdd, i get a purple screen boot options/mem tests
[18:55] <synth_> didn't paste
[18:55] <AK47isMyADDRESS> Hello :)
[18:56] <katiejeank> wilee-nilee: and when i try to boot into ubuntu from there, it says mount is not ready or missing
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | katiejeank run from a live cd and pastebin results
[18:56] <synth_> i recently upgraded libevent on accident and am now getting this error: http://sprunge.us/dcUi any idea how i could easily downgrade libevent? i've also tried upgrading gevent by doing pip install --upgrade gevent; however, i'm still getting the error.
[18:56] <asker345> wilee-nilee, didnt work like expected. i think this only work with windows mbr
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> katiejeank> when i reboot off the hdd, i get a purple screen boot options/mem tests This sounds like a live session booting.
[18:57] <ysh> ikonia: i resized it successfully, but i would suggest no one to do that.... because i was on no risk... there was no data on it :)
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> asker345, What kind of recovery is this, and why are you not asking in ##windows
[18:58] <CrowX-> I installed teamviewer and now I always have a teamviewer process in the background, no matter how many times I kill it
[18:58] <ikonia> ysh: I don't understand what you are saying
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu does not have this power. asker345
[18:58] <AK47isMyADDRESS> Hi what are these error's? http://pastebin.com/eKpcNHTL
[18:58] <CrowX-> how do I make it only run when I actually run the program?
[18:58] <CrowX-> this is the process /opt/teamviewer9/tv_bin/teamviewerd -f
[18:59] <asker345> wilee-nilee, its the normal recovery console.. its because i have installed ubuntu/grub. on a normal windows install it would be work, thats why i ask here.
[18:59] <ysh> ikonia: i resize that sda1, by deleting partion using fdisk and carfully creating partion with same start block and new end block and then using resize2fs
[18:59] <ysh> *carefully
[19:00] <ikonia> ysh: that's not resizing a partition
[19:00] <ikonia> oh I see new end block
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> asker345, You don't use grub or ubuntu to access the windows recovery in general, I have had computers that would. What is the end goal here?
[19:00] <ysh> :)
[19:00] <ikonia> ysh: I don't see how you can resize the root file system while it's in use
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> asker345, This is a last ditch approach
[19:02] <asker345> wilee-nilee, i have to manipulate windows that way. so the goal is to reach recovery console. i know that u do not need grub to do it, its causing the problem, so its quite the opposite.
[19:03] <ysh> ikonia: this http://pastebin.com/0KRKmDy6
[19:03] <katiejeank> unrecognized mount option "x-gvfs-show" or missing value.  Root filesystem check failed.
[19:03] <katiejeank> anyone know what this means?
[19:04] <scoofy> hello.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> asker345, your reasoning is faulty, that is accessible if working and you have not broke something before you see gru, or using a recovery disc.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> grub*
[19:04] <Platypus-Man> so, I'm trying to install GNU/Linux on a new laptop I purchased for my uncle.. but get a rather error: http://bildr.no/image/d3NjNGlJ.jpeg
[19:04] <mexi_d3> asker345: windows 7 recovery console?
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> asker345, If you see grub, you have not hit the right keys, it's to late.
[19:04] <Platypus-Man> * rather cryptic error
[19:05] <synth_> that error is awesome
[19:05] <asker345> mexi_d3, yes
[19:05] <scoofy> any idea what can cause this? http://pastebin.com/4MThPYrt
[19:05] <asker345> wilee-nilee, even holding dont work, trust me
[19:06] <mexi_d3> asker345: It doesn;t install when you install win7. You need to get it by booting off the windows CD - or yu can install it from inside win7 (before it breaks of course)
[19:06] <mexi_d3> asker345: Your problem is it's not aware of grub
[19:06] <katiejeank> unrecognized mount option "x-gvfs-show" or missing value.  Root filesystem check failed. what is this?
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Dude I know this stuff, somewhere something has been broken or your not using the correct prompts, or the menu you need is a different prompt, once you see grub you are to late.
[19:07] <asker345> mexi_d3, thats what i mean. i need a way to still access it. its not broken btw. i just need to access it. lets focus on that.
[19:07] <mexi_d3> asker345: Can you boot into windows?
[19:07] <asker345> asker345, yes
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Where is your winodws recovery or install disc, that is what you need if you cannot get in.
[19:08] <YourUsername> Hello! =)
[19:08] <mexi_d3> asker345: Then boot into windows and install the recovery console. So now you can access it without needing to boot from CD.
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Make the recovery disc in windows and use it.
[19:08] <Oisin> lolok
[19:08] <asker345> wilee-nilee, for some reason, it gets stuck when i put in the cd ater some time. i dont know why.
[19:09] <mexi_d3> asker345: Is it an OEM recovery disk?
[19:09] <asker345> mexi_d3, no
[19:09] <asker345> mexi_d3, its actually a stick
[19:09] <mexi_d3> asker345: So a regular windows 7 cdrom? and it gets stuck booting from that CD?
[19:10] <mexi_d3> asker345: Win7 USB stick? OK that does work but how did you create it?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> asker345, and where did you get the media to load the stick, what is it exactly?
[19:11] <asker345> mexi_d3, thats years ago. but it was a safe way, as i do things. i also installed from it successfully
[19:11] <mexi_d3> Let me get this right. You used the microsoft USB boot tool to make a bootable windows 7 flash installer?
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Honestly this is a windows issue, use their channel ##windows this is off topic here.
[19:12] <mexi_d3> Hrm you're right it is kind of off topic but I don't want him to have to reinstall everythign :)
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> mexi_d3, I have been trying to help them, I know this stuff, what we want personally is not a factor.
[19:12] <asker345> wilee-nilee, its a grub issue in my eyes, but im on #windows too
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Your eyes are clouded with assumptions.
[19:13] <asker345> wilee-nilee, i mean the root of the problem, not the stick
[19:13] <adamcunnington> Hi, i'm trying to recode the video codec of my file to xvid but i'm getting an error - what do i need to install to support xvid? a search yielded nothing blindingly obviouz
[19:13] <adamcunnington> obvious*
[19:13] <mexi_d3> i'll leave it to you then wilee-nilee since oyu've got more history on the problem. But if you want to know to install windows from the command line (yes it can do that), i'm here :-)
[19:14] <ikonia> ytw: again - I don't see how you can resize a mounted root file system
[19:14] <asker345> wilee-nilee, well, it would work without grub installed, since i did that dozen times before..
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> asker345, This is a pointless circular argument. Get the right tools and help at ##windows.
[19:20] <adamcunnington> Hi, i'm trying to recode the video codec of my file to xvid but i'm getting an error - what do i need to install to support xvid? a search yielded nothing blindingly obvious
[19:21] <k1l> !codecs
[19:23] <adamcunnington> Can anyone help with this error please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546143/
[19:24] <genii> adamcunnington: What says the result of: avconv -encoders | grep xvid    ..?
[19:24] <adamcunnington> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546152/
[19:25] <adamcunnington> genii: oh pastebinit didn't work, 1 sec
[19:25] <adamcunnington> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546163/
[19:25] <finn_> hey guys
[19:25] <Platypus-Man> !??? ???
[19:25] <finn_> im new to irc
[19:26] <Platypus-Man> bah, no tips for the ??? ??? error
[19:26] <finn_> How do i create a channel? If i can?
[19:26] <genii> adamcunnington: So you have xvid encoding installed already, it's a matter of some improper flag or option etc in your conversion command.
[19:26] <adamcunnington> genii: that doesn't make sense though because if i swap xvid for x264 it works fine
[19:27] <finn_> #basil
[19:28] <finn_> Guys how do i join a channel/Make one?
[19:28] <ikonia> finn_: join #freenode and ask
[19:28] <finn_> Thanks
[19:28] <finn_> join #hi
[19:29] <adamcunnington> genii: does this change anything? this error output is more verbose; http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546188/
[19:29] <finn_> ikonia
[19:29] <Pici> finn_: commands start with a /   so you want to type /join #freenode
[19:29] <Pici> or whatever
[19:29] <finn_> i did /join hi as a test and it seemed to create one
[19:29] <genii> adamcunnington: I would just try something like: avconv -i inputfilename -c:v mpeg4 outputname
[19:30] <finn_> and yes i know most if not all commands start with a /
[19:30] <Fuchs> finn_: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/
[19:30] <Fuchs> hth.
[19:30] <Fuchs> all.
[19:30] <Fuchs> also http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[19:30] <finn_> guys
[19:30] <finn_> Just type /join (Your channel name) and i think it creates one.
[19:31] <ikonia> finn_: if you need help using freenode, read the links Fuchs gave you or join #freenode and ask for help
[19:31] <finn_> I dont need help.
[19:31] <adamcunnington> genii: does that doa nything to the audio codec?
[19:32] <Rosbuntu> im using voyager distro of ubuntu and my weather app is not working
[19:32] <Rosbuntu> how do i fix that
[19:32] <Pici> finn_: okay. Just keep in mind that #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support :)
[19:32] <finn_> I was saying doing /join (Your channel name) seemed to create one
[19:32] <adamcunnington> genii: i need to recode the audio codec to mp3 and then the video to mp4 and then save the container as mp4
[19:32] <ikonia> Rosbuntu voyager distro of ubuntu - there is no ubuntu version called "voyager"
[19:32] <Rosbuntu> ikonia its french i guess.. im using.. can u google
[19:32] <k1l> Rosbuntu: please see the voyager support. we dont know what they changed in there
[19:32] <genii> adamcunnington: If you need to recode the audio also, I'd check the avconv manpage for syntax
[19:33] <Rosbuntu> k1l do they have official support room
[19:33] <Rosbuntu> or u know something..
[19:33] <Rosbuntu> where i can ask for
[19:33] <adamcunnington> genii: anyidea what the package is called? can't install avconv
[19:34] <adamcunnington> oh it's built int, my bad
[19:34] <k1l> Rosbuntu: i dont speak french. see their website
[19:34] <Rosbuntu> okkey
[19:34] <genii> adamcunnington: It's the default one for Ubuntu now, they moved away from ffmpeg
[19:34] <Rosbuntu> k1l thank you very much, u know a lot and u r a gret helper, god bless u
[19:35] <genii> adamcunnington: I think the syntax is like -acodec <codecname>
[19:35] <adamcunnington> genii: ah ok, yea think you can use -c:a too
[19:37] <genii> adamcunnington: And you can find the available codecs with the -encoders or -decoders
[19:37] <iamtehking> i am teh king
[19:43] <alnassafi> Hi all
[19:44] <MACscr> if spamd is running as debian-spamd, does that mean that the /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/ should be owned by debian-spamd as well? seems like it only has issues reading some of them, which doesnt make much sense since they are all owned by root
[19:45] <sauce> i need to install an SSL cert in either /usr/share/ca-certificates OR /usr/local/share/ca-certificates.  whats the difference between /usr and /usr/local?
[19:46] <sauce> yes i know i could put it at /root/whateverwhocares but i am trying to stick to sensible best practices
[19:48] <mexi_d3> sauce: /local is stuff youve installed on your machine
[19:48] <mexi_d3> sauce: as opposed to stuff the distro bundled
[19:48] <sauce> yes i agree with yiou. i guess neither is the right location for this file
[19:49] <sauce> this is more of an ubuntu-server question, but where would you put an SSL cert that you need to store?  specifically for connecting to MySQL databases
[19:49] <sauce> i.e. mysql -h myinstance.c9akciq32.rds-us-east-1.amazonaws.com --ssl_ca=/SOMEWHERE/rds-ssl-ca-cert.pem
[19:50] <n88> sauce: /etc/ssl/
[19:50] <sauce> so /etc/ssl/rds-ssl-ca-cert.pem makes sense?
[19:51] <n88> yep
[19:52] <aster-x> :P
[19:56] <fghfghfghfrghf> ts3.wesgg.com ddos
[19:56] <bekks> fghfghfghfrghf: Wrong channel.
[19:56] <aster-x> please, can i have a cloack for my ip?
[19:56] <fghfghfghfrghf> wrong u
[19:57] <fghfghfghfrghf> u can suck
[19:57] <bekks> !ops | fghfghfghfrghf
[19:57] <bekks> thanks :)
[19:57] <aster-x> :P
[19:57] <bekks> aster-x: You have to ask for a cloak in #freenode
[19:57] <k1l> aster-x: for freenode cloaks ask in #freenode
[19:58] <Fuchs> and before you ask:
[19:58] <Fuchs> log in to your account
[20:00] <aster-x> bekks, now
[20:00] <bekks> aster-x: Now ask in #freenode :)
[20:00] <aster-x> bekks, ok thanks
[20:01] <aster-x> k1l, ok
[20:01] <Laomak> Hi guys... I try to connect my Firefox with my owncloud... With version 28 on Windows 8 it was working but now with Ubuntu 14.04 the option the set my own server is gone... How can I get it working again?
[20:02] <Fuchs> Laomak: that is due to firefox switching to a new sync service with version 29
[20:03] <Fuchs> Laomak: see http://docs.services.mozilla.com/howtos/run-sync-1.5.html,  I think the owncloud plugin wasn't updated yet, so you can't use that any more
[20:03] <Laomak> -.- But I don't trust a cloud which isn't an ownCloud#
[20:03] <Laomak> -.- But I don't trust a cloud which isn't an ownCloud
[20:03] <Fuchs> Laomak: well, there is an older version of firefox that gets long term support
[20:03] <Fuchs> you could switch to that, I guess
[20:04] <Laomak> Okay... I will up for it... Thx
[20:09] <sauce> n88 thanks
[20:10] <TheSadITGuy> Hey everyone.
[20:10] <TheSadITGuy> Hows it going?
[20:11] <TheSadITGuy> Had a quick question...  I am getting the following in my syslog like crazy...  its an app i wrote. I just need to clarify that this is infact declaring the process dead?
[20:11] <TheSadITGuy> May 29 19:56:40 eventp01 kernel: [2435358.195829] init: relay-rails main process (3109) terminated with status 1 May 29 19:56:40 eventp01 kernel: [2435358.195901] init: relay-rails main process ended, respawning
[20:11] <TheSadITGuy> And then upstart is bringing it back up?
[20:15] <trism> TheSadITGuy: yes
[20:18] <trism> TheSadITGuy: if your app logs errors to stdout/err you might check /var/log/upstart/relay-rails.log to see what happened
[20:25] <poeticrpm> I am going to install ubuntu to an external harddrive. My system is UEFI. Do I have to worry about the installer overwriting something in my firmware and thus locking me out of my internal SSD drive? Im going to remove the ssd drive to make sure nothing is changed on disk
[20:26] <poeticrpm> since Ive heard the buntu installer will do that
[20:27] <poeticrpm> I have tried in vein for over a day to get my external to boot, but my bios doesnt seem to recognize the UEFI partition I have on the external drive. Im using the installer as a last resort
[20:28] <elichai2> hey
[20:28] <elichai2> need help with this guide:
[20:28] <elichai2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[20:28] <elichai2> on the subject: "Detailed resizing ~ Enlarging an encrypted partition"
[20:28] <elichai2> step 3. what i need to do?
[20:30] <adamcunnington> i've just created a file without including the dirname in the path - where would it be?
[20:30] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, what do you mean? In the terminal?
[20:30] <poeticrpm> paste the relevant terminal line here (just the first one)
[20:31] <elichai2> please? anyone?
[20:31] <poeticrpm> most likely /home/user/fileyoumade.txt
[20:31] <poeticrpm> elichai2, I would help, but I no 0 about anything to do with encryption sorry
[20:31] <poeticrpm> i did look :|
[20:32] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: yea
[20:32] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: what location would it have been created it
[20:32] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, whatever the location the terminal is set at. By default, if you open it as a user (and not as root), anything created will be in your home folder.
[20:33] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: that's what i thought but they're not in the home folder :|
[20:33] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, if its not there, please paste the line where you created that file
[20:34] <adamcunnington> petris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546545/
[20:36] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, the main thing I was looking for was the first part, eg [poeticrpm@codething ~]$mencoder etc etc...
[20:36] <elichai2> need help :(
[20:36] <poeticrpm> i was just making sure you were actually in home
[20:36] <elichai2> "3. Use fdisk as above to delete and then re-create a larger crypt partition."
[20:36] <elichai2> what does it means?
[20:37] <Burrito> elichai2, maybe see the section "Enlarge an encrypted partition" right above that.
[20:37] <elichai2> Burrito: i saw but i didn't understood step3
[20:37] <elichai2> can u plz explain it for me?
[20:38] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: ah
[20:38] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: thanks, found them!
[20:38] <Burrito> It says "as above", so it is explained "above".
[20:38] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, idk man. You can try looking in the same directory you made the file from (the /media/* one)
[20:38] <Burrito> elichai2, * It says "as above", so it is explained "above".
[20:38] <user1567> hello guys, i have been using linux for over 3 years and i am not sure if i get this joke right
[20:38] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, cool
[20:38] <xpistos> Hey all. Is there a way that I can move all files in nested folders to the parent folder? Just the files not the folders.
[20:38] <user1567> xD
[20:38] <user1567> http://i.imgur.com/ggmgl.jpg
[20:38] <Burrito> elichai2, I will try and find a better guide, I need to go
[20:38] <elichai2> Burrito: this is the as above: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda6
[20:39] <elichai2> it's not the problem
[20:39] <elichai2> the problem is about deleting and re-creating
[20:39] <elichai2> delete what?
[20:39] <Burrito> elichai2,  nah, way above that.
[20:39] <elichai2> my own encrypted partition?
[20:39] <Burrito> one sec, *trying to find a better guide*
[20:39] <Burrito> I have to go.
[20:40] <picca> user1567, don't get it ;)
[20:40] <xpistos> I found this but it copies instead of moving - find ~/Downloads/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -print0 | xargs -0 mv -t ~/Videos here, `-maxdepth` option specifies how deep find should try,
[20:40] <elichai2> byohhh i think i relaized, but better guide is better :)
[20:40] <elichai2> (but i need a safe one, ok? i don't want to backup)
[20:40] <xpistos> or this is it rather -- find ~/Downloads/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 mv -t ~/Videos
[20:41] <user1567> picca, i know there is missing text before : but still is there something else
[20:42] <alumno__> hola
[20:42] <alumno__> como estan
[20:42] <Burrito> elichai2, sorry, I expected to find a better one on ArchWiki (since I've often found better guides there), but couldn't find one...
[20:42] <Pici> !es | alumno__
[20:43] <alumno__> haaa
[20:43] <alumno__> thanks
[20:43] <sauce> ubottu jajajaja
[20:45] <elichai2> ok.... so maybe i'll just need to backup :(
[20:45] <elichai2> any way to backup a whole distro?
[20:46] <elichai2> Burrito: what do you say about: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=redo
[20:46] <vilambit> elichai2: dd if=/dev/yourdisk of=distro.iso ?
[20:46] <elichai2> ?
[20:46] <wols> elichai2: clonezilla
[20:46] <OerHeks> !backup
[20:46] <OerHeks> !cloning
[20:47] <elichai2> vilambit: noooo i need something i can later burn or restore with a resotring program
[20:47] <elichai2> wols: clonezilla can restore too?
[20:47] <vilambit> elichai2: dd works fine for that no?
[20:47] <OerHeks> you can make a list of packages, saves tons of mb's
[20:48] <wols> elichai2: a backup program that cannot restore is a bit useless...
[20:49] <elichai2> wols: if later i'll run dd if=distro.iso of=/dev/yourdisk. it will restore everything?
[20:49] <elichai2> even if it's encrypted?
[20:50] <elichai2> it will restore it with the encryption?
[20:50] <wols> elichai2: no
[20:50] <wols> using dd for a backup is possible but a very bad idea
[20:50] <ianorlin> it would still be encrypted
[20:51] <Armag3dd0n24> back like a house on fire, love ubuntu!
[20:51] <synth_> back like a house on fire?
[20:51] <elichai2> wols: so?
[20:52] <wols> elichai2: how big is the amount of data you want to back up?
[20:52] <elichai2> wols: lol u said to use dd for a backup :P
[20:52] <elichai2> ~75GB
[20:52] <wols> elichai2: no I did not. please read more carefully
[20:52] <Platypus-Man> can I do the install via command-line to see where it fails?
[20:52] <elichai2> ohh sorry vilambit said it
[21:03] <abdelmalek> Hi
[21:04] <khax> HI
[21:05] <abdelmalek> khax: i use linuxmint, and i want to know how to configure the internet with flashdisk
[21:07] <rcsheets> Is there a hardware certification program for 14.04? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ only mentions 12.04.
[21:08] <erle-> launchpad does not file libav bugs
[21:08] <erle-> but there is a bug in ubuntu that does not exist in upstream
[21:08] <erle-> avconv encoded webms do not play in firefox
[21:10] <cortexman> i'm trying to upgrade from saucy to trusty but it says "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade". i think this laptop was in fact upgraded to saucy when it was still in pre-release
[21:10] <cortexman> how do I fix it..?
[21:11] <cortexman> anyone here?
[21:11] <cortexman> or 1832 unattended irc clients?
[21:12] <k1l> !patience
[21:12] <cortexman>  gee that was helpful
[21:12] <cortexman> i wish i had a bot to follow me around life like that
[21:12] <cortexman> koanbot
[21:13] <cortexman> it would give irrelevant, unhelpful, contradictory advice endlessly
[21:13] <cortexman> winning
[21:13] <k1l> a possible cause for your errors are PPAs. remove the 3rd party packages
[21:13] <cortexman> ahh i did remove all that stuff
[21:13] <synth_> cortexman we have the technology
[21:13] <cortexman> lol
[21:13] <k1l> cortexman: stop ranting in here. this is an volunteers support channel. no need to for that
[21:14] <cortexman> is ranting about rants a meta-rant and therefore a rant?
[21:14] <cortexman> seems like i do have some weird stuff in sources.list.d though
[21:15] <k1l> !ppa-purge | cortexman
[21:15] <bish0p_> My Skype on Ubuntu 12.04 isn't recognizing my webcam. Other web applications such as TinyChat can use it, so I know it's not a hardware problem. Is this a skype problem?
[21:18] <Stormer97_znc> hey, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 on an acer c710, and while attempting to change touchpad settings, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/gYWm5duf
[21:20] <Stormer97_znc> never mind, issue was caused because I set fingerhigh before fingerlow
[21:20] <cortexman> how do you know the ppa url for a ppa in sources.list.d/
[21:21] <MagicSpud> hello I cant get this working: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272475/how-to-eliminate-or-disable-the-gnome3-top-panel
[21:22] <MagicSpud> the gconf-editor I installed does not seem to have such option
[21:28] <cortexman> yeah i think this is the reason i can't upgrade: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/brianmingus/c313242b669c66d683dc/raw/afd1064bb334222301b17b2e61c8e7f29e11a1b9/gistfile1.txt
[21:29] <cortexman> > 700 packages that are no longer available in any of my active repos, including kubuntu-desktop...
[21:29] <xyproto> Hi. I'm trying to make a simple SDL2/C++ program compile on Ubuntu (Travis CI). Could someone please test if they get the same result as the testing output? I currently don't have access to an Ubuntu installation, only Arch Linux: https://travis-ci.org/xyproto/sdl2test/builds/26336976 Thanks
[21:30] <syeekick> msg nickservid
[21:30] <syeekick> sheet
[21:30] <syeekick> is it unsafe to install the dkms dependicies?
[21:30] <xyproto> What does pkg-config sdl2 --libs --cflags output on Ubuntu, after having installed sdl2?
[21:32] <Platypus-Man> regarding my "??? ???" error, turns out my laptop was setup with RAID0.. deleted the array via BIOS, changed a setting (boot method? don't remember...) from RAID to AHCI, trying to install again now.. fingers crossed
[21:38] <metho> whats the best channel for ubuntu server stuff?
[21:38] <Ben64> #ubuntu-server
[21:38] <metho> Ben64: thank you
[21:39] <xyproto> And for development-questions related to Ubuntu? :)
[21:39] <emacer> I'm trying to package up some cross compilers, each into a separate deb package, and some related tools/example code/etc into another deb package.  I want the tools/etc. to depend on ANY ONE OR MORE of the cross compiler packages, so that it can be installed so long as at least one of the cross compiler packages is installed.  Does anyone know how I can structure my packages to meet this need?
[21:39] <syeekick> is installing dkms a dangeours move/
[21:39] <xyproto> syeekick: no, works great when I've tried it. Don't consider it a dangerous move at all.
[21:40] <xyproto> syeekick: created by Dell, if I remember correctly. It is in their interest to make drivers work as they should.
[21:41] <hucasys> #jack
[21:42] <xyproto> emacer: it's been a while since I've packaged a deb package, but is there not a way for several packages to "provide" the same package, so that only the provided package can be depended on by the package in question?
[21:44] <emacer> xyproto, that's a good idea.  I'm new to creating deb packages, but I remember seeing something about 'provides' before.  I'll look into that.  Thanks!
[21:44] <xyproto> emacer: best of luck :)
[21:45] <ResupineEarth> hello
[21:45] <metho> ResupineEarth: hi
[21:45] <ResupineEarth> hi metho
[21:46] <ResupineEarth> is there someone can help me to tell me how to merge multiple bin files into an iso
[21:48] <metho> ResupineEarth: try this http://www.kbrandt.com/2007/07/batch-convert-multiple-bincue-files-to.html
[21:48] <ResupineEarth> thanks metho i will take a look
[21:50] <ResupineEarth> many thanks metho i will give that a go
[21:51] <metho> ResupineEarth: let me know if it doesnt work
[21:51] <ResupineEarth> thanks metho ill try it now
[21:52] <GursimerSingh> Hello World
[21:52] <GursimerSingh> I am in need of asstiance regarding a small python-problem, anyone can assist me?
[21:53] <GursimerSingh> class calculator: 	 	def addition(x,y): 		add = x + y 		print(add) 		 	def subtraction(x,y): 		sub = x - y 		print(sub) 		 	def multiple(x,y): 		mult = x * y 		print(mult) 		 	def divs(x,y): 		divi = x / y 		print(divi)		  calculator.addition(3,5)
[21:53] <GursimerSingh> script ain't workin
[21:53] <whitebyte> i have ubuntu 14.04 gnome. how make terminal transparent
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> LOL
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> Terminal > Profiloe
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> > Profile Settings
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> Background Transparent > %
[21:54] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: no need for a class when the functions are independent. Also, you probably want to "return" instead of "add ="
[21:54] <metho> ResupineEarth: if those commands dont work than try the bchunk
[21:54] <dfcnvt> GursimerSingh: You'll need to join in #python for help
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> I am learning to class.
[21:54] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: Also offtopic. And google and stackoverflow are your friends.
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> "No-need" but it works
[21:55] <metho> ResupineEarth: bchunk seems pretty straight farword
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> I googled
[21:55] <whitebyte> GursimerSingh: that doesnot work
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> and stackoverfloed
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> aint working
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> I saw YouTube tutorial
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> It worked
[21:55] <dfcnvt> GursimerSingh: Also, you may need to use bpaste.net whenever you paste it in.
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> !enter |GursimerSingh,
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> I copied perfectly
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> http://bpaste.net/show/3OPNSOkegG8MrDYWlpFp/
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> Thank you dear.
[21:56] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: cal = calculator(); cal.addition(3,5) should work
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> GursimerSingh, Try to not use the enter key so much, more in each single post please. ;)
[21:56] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: no class is needed, though, just use regular functions. And what the other people said.
[21:57] <jcstarken> why would my videos playing firefox seem blurry in 14.04 but not 12.04
[21:57] <mjayk> drivers codecs ?
[21:57] <mjayk> many reasons
[21:58] <Guest98257> hi
[21:58] <Ademan> is there a comprehensive list of language codes (ie en_US ja_JP.utf8 etc) somewhere?
[21:58] <GursimerSingh> cal = calculator() aint working dawg. I also thought it should work,
[21:59] <jcstarken> mjayk: ok I am running same open source drivers have not changed them and it is amazon video, is the open source drivers different in 14.04 than 12.04
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Ademan: What is your end goal?
[21:59] <xyproto> Ademan: /etc/locale.gen here, not sure if it's the same location on Ubuntu
[22:00] <mjayk> jcstarken: yes they are different you are using a different kernel correct?
[22:00] <Ademan> Jordan_U: determine the maximum length of these codes
[22:00] <bitblt> anyone work with preseeds? I'm passing ks=http://etc/mypreseed as a kernel opt, but it's not following it for some reason
[22:00] <__raven> 14.04 random network problems. no dns, no route, no connection at all with wired and wireless network. dhclient not possible. whats going on there??
[22:00] <jcstarken> mjayk: did not think about that thank you
[22:00] <k1l> GursimerSingh: maybe its better to ask in a python channel? see !alis   to find channels
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Ademan: What is your end goal?
[22:01] <GursimerSingh> Please, just answer.
[22:01] <en1gma> i have a computer that the video card does not work on it i justin stalled ubuntu 1404 from a ubs install onto a usb hard drive i selected login with user and pass (did it all from this laptop) i then shut off laptop and hooked it up to the computer withbad vcard and i powered on
[22:02] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: learn how to ask questions in a way that gives good answers. "it's not working" is not much to go by
[22:02] <en1gma> (from here on out im blind) i poweed on and i dont know if i just type my user : pass and hit enter but i did that after a few mins
[22:02] <Ademan> Jordan_U: I can assure you this is not an X-Y, like I said, I want to find the maximum length. So that I can appropriately size a database field
[22:02] <en1gma> i dont know if im at desktop. is there anyway i can ssh into it
[22:02] <mexi_d3> GursimerSingh: 1) you mighg have forgotten to create an instance of the calculator class; 2) you should be in #python
[22:02] <bitblt> en1gma, ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:02] <GursimerSingh> I am banned in #Python
[22:03] <Ademan> GursimerSingh: are you registered with nickserv?
[22:03] <bitblt> oh my
[22:03] <Fuchs> GursimerSingh: no you aren't, but you need an account
[22:03] <Fuchs> GursimerSingh: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup or /msg nickserv help register  for the short version. Make sure to use a valid e-mail address and check for a confirmation e-mail after you registered.
[22:03] <GursimerSingh> Oh
[22:03] <en1gma> yea but how can i do it if im not sure im at desktop and from i ssh into it from my laptop isnt there a request i have to give it on the desktop?
[22:03] <GursimerSingh> Can I get Linux Mint assistance in this IRC too?
[22:03] <Fuchs> GursimerSingh: no, they are on a different network
[22:03] <GursimerSingh> k
[22:03] <GursimerSingh> tyvm
[22:04] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[22:04] <Alex365> hi!
[22:04] <en1gma> is there a way i can hook back up the hard drive to this laptop and preauthorize ssh so when i plug it back into desktop with no vcard it will be simple for me to ssh into it from the laptop?
[22:04] <dfcnvt> GursimerSingh: simply type /msg nickserv help register
[22:04] <Jordan_U> Ademan: /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED contains a pretty supported list, but I'm not aware of any limit on short code lengths so you may still be hit by a longer locale name in the future.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Ademan: s/supported/comprehensive/
[22:05] <diego__> hi
[22:05] <diego__> anyone know why i m getting 1000fps at glxgears
[22:06] <diego__> at ubuntu 14.04
[22:06] <Ademan> diego__: because it's not a benchmark
[22:06] <mjayk> what Ademan said
[22:06] <diego__> recently installed amd drivers from amdwebsite
[22:06] <diego__> the lastest beta
[22:06] <diego__> and when i runned that last year at manjaron
[22:06] <diego__> manjaro
[22:06] <diego__> got 6000fps
[22:06] <diego__> i got two video cards
[22:06] <diego__> 6520g + 6470m
[22:06] <mjayk> so you had different drivers, a different kernel and a different os ? diego__
[22:07] <trndr> diego__, enter is not a replacement for ,
[22:07] <mjayk> could be any of the above
[22:07] <diego__> i had ubuntu 14.04
[22:07] <diego__> 3.13?
[22:07] <en1gma> i need a newer modern distro that dont even have to boot to X (it just needs to let all ssh in by default so i can troubleshoot from the laptop looking at the desktop hardware through ssh
[22:07] <mjayk> so you didnt get 6000 fps on manjaro that was on 14.04 last year ?
[22:07] <__raven> 14.04 random network problems. no dns, no route, no connection at all with wired and wireless network. dhclient not possible. whats going on there??
[22:07] <diego__> i get 6000fps on manjaro
[22:08] <diego__> last year
[22:08] <mjayk> and ?
[22:08] <Ademan> Jordan_U: thanks, I don't expect to care about super obscure locales anyways, but I'll pad out the field just to be safe
[22:08] <diego__> and now ubuntu 14.04 fps
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> en1gma, 14.04 is the latest release, nothing newer.
[22:08] <diego__> and just detect 6520g
[22:08] <mjayk> you change os, drivers and kernel and ask why the fps changes?
[22:08] <diego__> if i change
[22:08] <diego__> for a newer release
[22:08] <Jordan_U> Ademan: You're welcome.
[22:08] <diego__> why this is worst
[22:08] <mjayk>  because its different
[22:08] <en1gma> yea i mean like ubuntu 14.04 but it dont have to have X i just need a shell so i can ssh into the blind box so i dont have to answer any questions cause i cant see it
[22:09] <k1l> diego__: its not a benchmark
[22:09] <diego__> yeah
[22:09] <diego__> but amdcc
[22:09] <diego__> is not detecting two videocards
[22:09] <diego__> just detect 6520g
[22:09] <mjayk> diego__: try google
[22:09] <diego__> and not the 6470m
[22:09] <k1l> !enter | diego__
[22:09] <diego__> thats what i did
[22:09] <daftykins> diego__: stop pressing enter so much please, type on full lines
[22:09] <en1gma> ssh enabled distro that will boot to CLI even. just needs to not have any user interaction
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> en1gma, Use nicks here, we don't suggest distro's beyond the ubuntu group, try ##Linux for that if you're registered with #freenode
[22:10] <mexi_d3> en1gma: Ubuntu 14.04 server installs without a GUI
[22:10] <diego__> 13.04 showed me two videocards i remember but now 14.4 show me just 1
[22:10] <Ademan> is there still a "core" installer?
[22:10] <en1gma> mexi_d3, ewww that sounds interesting
[22:10] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Ademan
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> en1gma, look at the minimal bot info above as well.
[22:11] <sr71black> There is also the Ubuntu Core
[22:11] <diego__> nobody know how can i get work both cards?
[22:11] <en1gma> hopefully someone might know if there is no user interaction once i install it from the laptop and move that usb hard drive to the desktop with no video output and turn it on
[22:12] <en1gma> after i power on i wont be able to do anything
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> diego__, Have some patience do not spam the channel with info and when addressing others preface with their nick
[22:12] <en1gma> from a keyboard connted to that blind box. it will all have to be done over lan with this laptop connecting to it
[22:13] <Ademan> diego__: can you use 'lspci' from the command line, and paste the results here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and send us a link?
[22:14] <diego__> there it is http://pastebin.com/qKwtDRjN
[22:14] <Ademan> diego__: also try running "aticonfig --list-adapters" to see if it sees two (I sort of doubt it)
[22:15] <diego__> http://pastebin.com/LqFy2yCb
[22:15] <Ademan> diego__: hey so that's promising, it does recognize both
[22:16] <Ademan> but you said catalyst didn't show both?
[22:16] <diego__> but from amd catalyst control at info hardware it show me just 6520g
[22:16] <skinux> What is the name of the creator/editor app for making .desktop files for software downloaded+installed as tarballs (or otherwise compressed files excluding deb packages)?
[22:18] <diego__> a and when i played dota2 on manjaro y got better fps with medium graphics and with this ubuntu y played at low and 5-9 fps...
[22:20] <Ademan> so do you want to try to crossfire them, or just prefer the other card?
[22:20] <Ademan> actually can you paste the output of glxinfo also?
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> skinux, The command line, not sure there is app that does all that.
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> short of some compiler if I understand you
[22:21] <diego__> glxinfo http://pastebin.com/d5U09FHA
[22:22] <diego__> fglrx also show me just 6520g
[22:22] <trndr> skinux, you might want to read this http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/
[22:24] <kypor__home> Hey can anyone help regarding ATI driver and black screen after reboot?
[22:25] <Ademan> diego__: hrm well you can do a few things with aticonfig. you *might* try sudo aticonfig --adapter=all --initial BUT***** go to #ati first and ask them, if it generates bad config you'll be pretty hosed until you fix it
[22:25] <diego__> #ati here at freenode?
[22:25] <Ademan> kypor__home: we were just discussing some other ATI issues, there's #ati if you're interested
[22:26] <Ademan> diego__: yep
[22:26] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: Try the boot parameter 'nomodeset; : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 .
[22:26] <kypor__home> Thanks. This has been an issue as long as I can remember which keeps me on windows. Ya tried nomodeset, doesn't work
[22:28] <kypor__home> Seems like x isn't displaying. Broken after ATI install
[22:28] <diego__> kypor how u installed ur driver
[22:29] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: What is the graphics card ? are we talking hybrid graphics here ?
[22:29] <diego__> ati/ati
[22:29] <diego__> intel/ati or just ati
[22:31] <skinux> .desktop files should be saved in /usr/share/app-install/ and /home/$user/Desktop, right?
[22:33] <bprompt> skinux:  yes
[22:33] <kypor__home> How do I know if its hybrid?
[22:34] <diego__> how many videocards  u know
[22:34] <kypor__home> Installed from ATI creating packages. Installed with dpkg
[22:34] <diego__> u have sorry
[22:34] <diego__> make a lspci and paste it at pastebin.com
[22:35] <kypor__home> It is a laptop with ATI HD 5730 and Intel i7
[22:35] <diego__> intel/ati
[22:35] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: At the present time, to find out we would have to ask the system. Can you boot a liveDVD to the desk top ?
[22:35] <kypor__home> I can boot to recovery. I'm ok at root
[22:35] <skinux> I see in a tutorial to place them at /$home/.local/applications/, but my system doesn't even have that.
[22:36] <diego__> i7 with gpu? intel integrated graphics
[22:36] <diego__> ?
[22:36] <kypor__home> Not that I'm aware of
[22:36] <kypor__home> Lspci VGA gives ATI card
[22:37] <mexi_d3> skinux: Is that .desktop files? You can create that folder if you need to.
[22:37] <diego__> make the lspci and paste that in pastebin.com
[22:37] <arfent> Quick question: you know when you enable ufw, and its default is all incoming connections are disabled, and all outgoing connections are enabled? If so, why is my browser still working fine, shouldn't port 80 incoming be enabled for it to work?
[22:38] <bprompt> skinux:    yes, you can also place them at ~/.local/share/applications
[22:38] <mexi_d3> skinux: It should be ~/.local/share/applications
[22:38] <mexi_d3> Sorry for double post.
[22:38] <kypor__home> Sorry can't in recovery. I'm on a tablet ATM
[22:38] <diego__> well
[22:39] <diego__> is ur i7 sandy ivy haswell
[22:39] <diego__> 1 gen 2 gen
[22:39] <diego__> wich one
[22:39] <mustafa_> ERROR: dependencies ‘session’, ‘RMySQL’ are not available for package ‘concerto’
[22:39] <mustafa_> * removing ‘/usr/lib/R/library/concerto’
[22:40] <mustafa_> any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu
[22:40] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: "lspce" shows no other than the ATI card ? .. I can not explain then why "nomodeset" will not boot to some kind of graphics display // in the recovery mode, can you then get to the GUI ?
[22:40] <Bashing-om> *lspci
[22:40] <mustafa_> any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu
[22:41] <kypor__home> No, lspci | Grip VGA displays ATI card. Ya nomodeset doesn't do anything
[22:41] <kypor__home> I think its 4th gen Intel i7
[22:43] <kypor__home> Sorry maybe 3rd
[22:43] <kypor__home> 3400 series chipset
[22:43] <jomc> Should I install gentoo?
[22:44] <jomc> guys pls
[22:44] <jomc> halp
[22:44] <Albatross> no
[22:44] <jomc> ):
[22:44] <arfent> Does anyone know about why ufw doesn't at least block incoming browser connections?
[22:44] <Albatross> Install Windows and free yourself of these plagues.
[22:44] <jomc> lol
[22:45] <kypor__home> Lol
[22:45] <kypor__home> Did that too. ATI has never worked
[22:45] <arfent> i cant go back to windows, i started out on whisky and soon moved onto the harder stuff...
[22:46] <Albatross> If whisky ran most of the world's programs, you should have stuck with it.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> arfent: Your broswer sends outgoing http requests on port 80, the responses from that server are not to port 80.
[22:48] <arfent> Jordan_U: To what port are those responses? Thing is ufw claims to have blocked all incoming calls, aren't those browser responses the server gives also incoming calls?
[22:49] <kypor__home> I can see on search there are others with this issue but no fixes. Just using Radon
[22:49] <wexwimpy> E: man-db: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what does this mean
[22:49] <kypor__home> Radeeon driver is the fix
[22:49] <Jordan_U> arfent: Randomized. And no, since the connection was initiated by your browser it is considered an outgoing connection. Just because a connection is "outgoing" doesn't mean that data can only be sent one way.
[22:50] <arfent> Jordan_U: I see thanks.
[22:51] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: radeon is the open source driver for ATI cards, the 5 series does have FGLRX support. As to why you can not get a graphics display, I am at a loss to explain presently.
[22:52] <Jordan_U> arfent: You're welcome.
[22:52] <kypor__home> Thanks yes same
[22:53] <skinux> How would disk space for '/' become full when home, opt, and /var/www are all on a different partition from '/'?
[22:53] <kypor__home> I'm stumped too
[22:54] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: The i7 Intel board "might" be with integrated graphics, have you looked in bios and see if integrated grahics is supported on your machine ?
[22:54] <skinux> I've been removing packages, but disk space only decreased and now says it's all used.
[22:54] <kypor__home> Yes and there is nothing there
[22:55] <kypor__home> No integrated
[22:55] <Kovica> I'm running xubuntu 12.04 and have two monitors (one is touch screen, one is not). Touch screen is working OK until I connect the second display. Then the "mouse" moves from left top of one display to right lower corner of the second display, despite the fact I only "click" on one display. I've tried xinit_calibrator, but it draws itself acrosss both displays. How to solve this?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> skinux: Please pastebin the output of "df -h".
[22:57] <Jordan_U> skinux: There are a lot of files outside of /home/, /opt/, and /var/www/.
[22:59] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: Try this boot paramater : "xforcevesa" .
[22:59] <mexi_d3> skinux: You might need apt-get autoclean/apt-get autoremove to actually remove all the files; there's `bleachbit` as well, which cleans temp/old files.
[22:59] <greenman> simple question.  I've tried doing an ifdown and up.  I've tried rebooting.  I've tried dhclient -r.  Is there another way to release DHCP info?
[23:00] <daftykins> greenman: release? it doesn't take a reboot. what are you after?
[23:00] <greenman> daftykins: I changed my ip address allocation on my router and I want my server to have the new ip address
[23:00] <greenman> try as I might, I can't get it to release it's old lease.
[23:01] <greenman> I tried dhclient -r and then a dhclient, but that gave this:
[23:01] <daftykins> greenman: reboot the router.
[23:01] <daftykins> greenman: but static addresses are set manually, for real network admin - not static leasing
[23:01] <greenman> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[23:02] <daftykins> your approach is bad
[23:02] <mexi_d3> greenman: I would recommend you used a static address for a server. You might need to hardcode in connection info one day.
[23:02] <kypor__home> I deleted the fglrx driver and am using radeeon once again
[23:02] <kypor__home> Sucks
[23:02] <mexi_d3> greenman: However `sudo ifdown eth0` should work
[23:02] <kypor__home> Ubuntu still won't work for me
[23:07] <Joe_knock> Hello, how do I create a list of IRC channels I'd like to join automatically when I start XChat?
[23:08] <daftykins> Joe_knock: this is ubuntu support, not IRC support. feel free to ask in #freenode
[23:08] <Joe_knock> hmmm, okay daftykins
[23:09] <synth_> Joe_knock http://xchat.org/faq/#q22
[23:09] <mustafa_> any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu
[23:10] <creature> Hello. I want to run a command when I press my Windows key (Super_L) but the keyboard preferences seem to INSIST that Super_L is a modifier only. How do I get it to do what I want?
[23:11] <Joe_knock> synth_: thanks!!
[23:11] <mustafa_> any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> !patience | mustafa_
[23:12] <RandyLangston> hello
[23:12] <synth_> Greetings Lord RandyLangston
[23:12] <Joe_knock> mustafa_: What are you trying to accomplish?
[23:12] <mustafa_> any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu
[23:12] <mustafa_> thanks
[23:12] <RandyLangston> hey synth
[23:13] <synth_> lol
[23:13] <Joe_knock> !patience | mustafa_
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> mustafa_, YOU see the bot message?
[23:13] <RandyLangston> i had a question for anyone that might be able to help me
[23:13] <mustafa_> trying to install concerto on ubuntu...facing an errot
[23:13] <RandyLangston> my friend wants to put ubuntu on her laptop
[23:13] <Joe_knock> RandyLangston: Don't ask to ask. Just ask
[23:13] <RandyLangston> however she has something im not famiar with on this laptop
[23:13] <mustafa_> mustafa@mustafa3113:/var/www/concerto/lib/R$ sudo R CMD INSTALL -l /usr/lib/R/library concerto
[23:13] <mustafa_> ERROR: dependency ‘RMySQL’ is not available for package ‘concerto’
[23:13] <mustafa_> * removing ‘/usr/lib/R/library/concerto’
[23:13] <Joe_knock> mustafa_: paste your error into some text pasting tool and share here
[23:13] <synth_> oh man
[23:14] <Joe_knock> RandyLangston: What might that thing be?
[23:14] <RandyLangston> to unlock her pc she has to put her fingerprint on it
[23:14] <RandyLangston> im wondering if ubuntu would work with something like this
[23:14] <synth_> do you know if it's built into the bios ?
[23:14] <RandyLangston> no idea
[23:14] <Joe_knock> mustafa_: The error is pretty clear: ERROR: dependency ‘RMySQL’ is not available for package ‘concerto’
[23:14] <RandyLangston> there is a scanner on the laptop
[23:14] <vilambit> RandyLang: is that after it boots or before?
[23:14] <RandyLangston> thats all i know
[23:15] <Joe_knock> yikes, a fingerprint laptop.
[23:15] <RandyLangston> good question vilabit... lol
[23:15] <RandyLangston> i dont know yet
[23:15] <synth_> do you know the make/model of the laptop?
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> RandyLangston, Try to lay off the enter, consolidate info to single posts.
[23:15] <RandyLangston> no synth i dont
[23:15] <RandyLangston> guess i should get more info and come back lol
[23:15] <RandyLangston> gotcha wilee
[23:15] <synth_> we would probably be able to help more if we knew that info :)
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> RandyLangston, Cool, thanks. ;)
[23:15] <Joe_knock> RandyLangston: Is the fingerprint scan necessary to switch the laptop on?
[23:16] <Joe_knock> oh that has been asked. soryr
[23:16] <Joe_knock> sorry
[23:16] <RandyLangston> i am not sure joe knock... i only seen it once , all i know is it is a HP laptop , and that it has that fingerprint scan  on it
[23:17] <piyush1911> Hi
[23:17] <piyush1911> I am running a ubuntu12.04 server
[23:17] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: Come here: #ubuntu-server. I'll help you there
[23:18] <piyush1911> and when I try to run 'sudo apt-get update' the machine throws up a lot of 404 errors
[23:18] <piyush1911> "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]"
[23:18] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: ...
[23:18] <piyush1911> the machine is a x86_64, but apt looks for armhf packages
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> piyush1911, If the source list is the same when working, change the repo
[23:19] <mustafa_> mustafa@mustafa3113:/var/www/concerto/lib/R$ sudo R CMD INSTALL -l /usr/lib/R/library concerto
[23:19] <mustafa_> ERROR: dependency ‘RMySQL’ is not available for package ‘concerto’
[23:19] <mustafa_> * removing ‘/usr/lib/R/library/concerto’
[23:19] <RandyLangston> i suppose i should find out more about this machine and i will come back, thank you guys for trying to help me
[23:19] <RandyLangston> have a good night all
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> night
[23:19] <mustafa_> conerto install help needed
[23:19] <mustafa_> sorry concerto
[23:19] <Joe_knock> mustafa_: You don't like to read and understand instructions mate...
[23:20] <piyush1911> Joe_knock: but why is the apt looking for arm packages
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> piyush1911, If you can a pastebin of a full update helps us help you.
[23:20] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: This isn't the right channel to be asking for ubuntu-server support. I'm telling you this because an ubuntu-server support channel exists
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> Joe_knock, Fair point however we help the server people all the time and refer to that channel when needed.
[23:21] <Joe_knock> wilee-nilee, piyush1911: My apologies then.
[23:22] <synth_> his error could also happen on a non server ubuntu
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> Joe_knock, Some problems are fairly straight forward, and there are helpers here who are working linux IT.
[23:22] <piyush1911> http://pastebin.com/ubW2AEz5
[23:23] <OerHeks> piyush1911, maybe your server is running on an Arm machine? see lscpu
[23:23] <mustafa_> sorry joe im a newbe here...what exactly u meant by copy paste tool
[23:23] <piyush1911> # lscpu
[23:23] <piyush1911> Architecture:          x86_64
[23:23] <piyush1911> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[23:23] <piyush1911> Byte Order:            Little Endian
[23:23] <piyush1911> CPU(s):                4
[23:23] <piyush1911> On-line CPU(s) list:   0-3
[23:23] <unopaste> piyush1911 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:23] <synth_> mustafa_ http://pastebin.com for instance
[23:23] <Joe_knock> mustafa_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:24] <Joe_knock> mustafa_: I say this because if you start a long paste, some mod in a bad mood might ban/kick you.
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> piyush1911, You have added a additional armf repo it looks like are you sure it has support for your release.
[23:24] <Joe_knock> like piyush1911 getting muted...
[23:24] <piyush1911> http://pastebin.com/PcSGvij3
[23:25] <Joe_knock> x86_64 would mean it is a 64-bit architecture.
[23:25] <mustafa_> here it is
[23:25] <mustafa_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7547413/
[23:26] <piyush1911> Joe_knock: here is my souces.list
[23:26] <piyush1911> http://pastebin.com/WYxmwb1p
[23:26] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: Are you root?
[23:26] <piyush1911> yes
[23:27] <synth_> mustafa_ try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install r-cran-rmysql
[23:27] <synth_> then try again
[23:27] <Jordan_U> piyush1911: Please pastebin the name and contents of all of the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ .
[23:27] <daftykins> piyush1911: how come you're @...nvidia.com ? :)
[23:28] <Joe_knock> daftykins: :D
[23:28] <mustafa_> any ideas joe...i have pasted the link
[23:28] <mustafa_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7547413/
[23:29] <piyush1911> Joe_knock: http://pastebin.com/Air3UV4F
[23:29] <synth_> mustafa_ try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install r-cran-rmysql
[23:29] <Joe_knock> mustafa_: See synth_s recommendation. You require rmysql to be installed.
[23:31] <Joe_knock> looks like you have the basic source list only piyush1911
[23:31] <piyush1911> somehow the apt is looking for arm packages instead of x86_64 packages
[23:32] <piyush1911> somehow the apt is looking for armhf packages instead of x86_64 packages
[23:32] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: What is the pastebin for the error output?
[23:32] <piyush1911> http://pastebin.com/ubW2AEz5
[23:33] <synth_> piyush1911 can you pastebin:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:33] <synth_> instead of sources.list.d/*
[23:34] <piyush1911> http://pastebin.com/WYxmwb1p
[23:34] <piyush1911> synth_:http://pastebin.com/WYxmwb1p
[23:34] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: Ironically, I think nvidia might be the issue here. Did you try to install any NVidia packages?
[23:35] <piyush1911> haha..
[23:35] <piyush1911> there are no nvidia packages on this machine right now
[23:36] <synth_> hmmm
[23:36] <Joe_knock> I came across an error for somebody else who was getting these errors, because he/she installed: cuda toolkit
[23:37] <piyush1911> Joe_knock: No cuda
[23:38] <arfent> Is firefox updating ubuntu users to 29.0.1?
[23:38] <daftykins> arfent: even if it isn't it doesn't matter because the .1 fixes are mostly windows related
[23:38] <synth_> piyush1911 what does cat /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch show?
[23:38] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: This is the closest I came to discovering your error - http://askubuntu.com/questions/347945/problem-when-i-apt-get-update-precise-main-armhf-packages-404-not-found . Proceed with caution. It seems like you may be able to remove armhf
[23:39] <arfent> synth_: k thanks
[23:39] <synth_> ?
[23:39] <synth_> wrong guy haha
[23:40] <Joe_knock> Getting thanks for the wrong thing ehh
[23:40] <piyush1911> Joe_knock, synth_: WOW that fixed it
[23:40] <synth_> :D
[23:41] <piyush1911> man cuda messes with some stuff
[23:42] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: I think it was just that those armhf packages were specified when they shouldn't be. I can only wonder why. Also, you're using 12.04.3, try to upgrade to 12.04.4
[23:43] <piyush1911> daftykins: few days a week i work at nvidia
[23:44] <daftykins> piyush1911: ah, may i ask what doing? :)
[23:44] <piyush1911> Automotive
[23:44] <daftykins> looking after cars 0o
[23:45] <piyush1911> yep!
[23:45] <arthurdent> do i have to configure the kernel in any special way to do nbdroot?
[23:45] <Baako> can some suggest me a good php text editor for ubuntu please? the netbeans I install is bugger alot.
[23:45] <OerHeks> !ide
[23:45] <Joe_knock> Baako: Netbeans is 1 massive IDE
[23:45] <arthurdent> (nbdroot over the network via pxe)
[23:47] <piyush1911> Joe_knock: we were seeing some flaky nfs-kernel daemon issues with any kernel above 3.5.0.49 ... hence we are on 12.04.03
[23:48] <Joe_knock> piyush1911: Good enough reason to not update.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> piyush1911: Have you filed a bug report?
[23:49] <Shinyu> i have a question about nic  support
[23:49] <piyush1911> Jordan_U: no not yet, but will do.
[23:49] <MPEREZ> Hello I am having trouble updating my ubuntu system
[23:50] <MPEREZ> I need help please
[23:50] <Shinyu> is the Intel WG-I217V supported in ubuntu?
[23:50] <Joe_knock> MPEREZ: Feel free to ask your question.
[23:50] <lucaNapoli> italiani?
[23:51] <piyush1911> MPEREZ: there are many helpers here please let us know what is your issue
[23:51] <MPEREZ> Ok everytime I try to update i get an error. I have ubuntu 8.04 and I wish to upgrade to the latest version
[23:51] <xangua> !eol | MPEREZ
[23:51] <daftykins> MPEREZ: sorry, you're eol
[23:51] <synth_> lucaNapoli #ubuntu-it
[23:51] <lucaNapoli> tnk
[23:52] <Joe_knock> 8.04!!!!
[23:52] <MPEREZ> ok so i got an old one and your not allowed to help?
[23:53] <Joe_knock> MPEREZ: I think what daftykins is trying to say is that you should download Ubuntu 12.04 or ubuntu 14.04
[23:53] <arthurdent> or pay 5.5m GBP to extend support for another year
[23:53] <daftykins> Joe_knock: i think the links spoke for themselves!
[23:53] <MPEREZ> oh well i tried the disk dident work
[23:54] <daftykins> MPEREZ: correct, unsupported is unsupported
[23:54] <Jordan_U> MPEREZ: Did you recently install Ubuntu?
[23:54] <synth_> maybe try doing a usb thumbdrive install
[23:54] <MPEREZ> yes the other day
[23:54] <arthurdent> o_o
[23:54] <Jordan_U> MPEREZ: OK. Why didn't you install Ubuntu 14.04?
[23:54] <Joe_knock> MPEREZ: I'm guessing you're running a 32-bit machine.
[23:54] <Joe_knock> and might have downloaded 64-bit
[23:55] <MPEREZ> my friend gave me a disk for 8.04
[23:55] <arthurdent> i feel like i stepped into a time machine
[23:55] <Jordan_U> MPEREZ: You should download and install Ubuntu 14.04 instead.
[23:55] <Pushy> is ubuntu simliar to solaris?
[23:56] <MPEREZ> ok ill get to it thanks
[23:56] <Pushy> anyone also know solaris?
[23:56] <alfonsojon> Is it just me, or is the Ubuntu site being hammered?
[23:56] <arthurdent> Pushy: it's an OS... so in that sense it's similar
[23:56] <Jordan_U> Pushy: "similar" is a vague term. Why do you ask?
[23:56] <Pushy> cause i use solaris 11, and don't even know how to install xchat
[23:57] <Pushy> usually in ubuntu i do,  sudo apt-get install xchat
[23:57] <Pushy> or from the app store
[23:57] <alfonsojon> ah
[23:57] <alfonsojon> just google "solaris 11 package manager"
[23:57] <Pushy> not much help for solaris
[23:57] <Jordan_U> Pushy: This isn't the correct channel to be asking questions about how to use Solaris.
[23:57] <arthurdent> Pushy: you may want to try #solaris for help with that kind of thing
[23:58] <Pushy> solaris channel is like dead
[23:58] <Joe_knock> I don't blame Pushy though. Solaris?? Do people use that at all?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> Pushy: That doesn't make this the right channel. This is still #ubuntu, and we only support Ubuntu here.
[23:59] <daftykins> Joe_knock: i do, please don't encourage the seeking of support for other things in here