=== xnox_ is now known as xnox === lderan_ is now known as lderan === sadin is now known as Sadin [03:41] Noskcaj: you want https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/utopic/xfce4-eyes-plugin/4.4.2/+merge/221146 sponsored/ [03:41] sxsponsored/xsponsored?x [06:07] elfy: Just the person I needed. Sorry I didn't catch you earlier, had to visit the doc and crap. [06:08] such is life [06:10] So I presumed with core testing, we'd want to get it in first so we can use tasksel from the mini ISO, or install the meta without adding any extra repos. I made the merge request and ochosi kindly reminded me that I should confirm this is how you'd prefer to go about testing this (I was going to wait on getting something installable before contacting you.) [06:12] yea that sounds right to me [06:12] I would think the best way is [06:12] 1 - get -core so tasksel sees it [06:12] 2 - do some double checks between us [06:12] 3 - let -testers know - those who are brave enough can then do it [06:12] 4 - I've still got people that might look elsewhere [06:12] does that make sense to you? [06:13] All except 4, so sounds great and what I was aiming for. Thanks! [06:15] \o/ [06:15] Oh, since ochosi isn't on IRC (connection problems), do you want to approve https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu-seed/+merge/221149 or want me to make a comment/ [06:16] I can - bit like asking a blind man to check your expenses though [06:19] Unit193: is that what I think it is - adding core in so it's available for tasksel? [06:20] Also how the xubuntu-core metapackage is created. [06:20] ok [06:21] done [06:22] Thanks! Want me to hit up trello with the plan? [06:23] elfy: Sorry to sound stupid, but suite b? [06:24] the testcases need to be checked before we call [06:25] I assume you're looking at the package testcase card with the checklist [06:25] 6 testcases to check over before we call [06:28] No I wasn't, OK. [06:28] why did you mention it then? [06:28] https://trello.com/c/kKLiedUe/15-suite-b-call saw it was due soon. [06:29] (I got this, I know what's going on.) [06:30] woohoo [06:30] so people look and it works \o/ [06:31] elfy: Sorry, I cheated. :( [06:31] xubutrello: due soon [06:31] -> 1. Suite B Call (id: 15) due: 2014-06-09 11:00:00 UTC from list: To Do 14.10 [06:31] yep - I guessed :) [06:31] still you looked [06:31] now you know also that the testcases need to be checked :p [06:32] Right. Isn't lls going to change? [06:33] it is - but atm it hasn't - so we can only go with what we have [06:33] if it changes after then we can always ask people to test *that* [06:33] there's now a newer due date too :p [06:34] should make more sense with the previous one [06:37] Mhmm, I see. [10:06] elfy: i've been disconnected for a day or so, so i didn't see any reply wrt -core testing. i presume you +1-ing the merge request means that you wanna merge first, then test? [10:07] Yes. [10:08] ochosi: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/05/29/%23xubuntu-devel.html [10:10] Hello. Skype, battery indicator, and goldendict go to 'indicator (unity)' applet. Notes and power indicator go to 'notification area' applet. Quassel icon goes nowhere. Would someone please package things properly and consistently? I am not using unity and do not need the 'indicator (unity)' applet. === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [10:11] Where do I file bugs for that? [10:19] gry: https://launchpad.net/ [10:23] ochosi, no [10:24] morning knome [10:25] hey slickymasterWork [10:44] brainwash: Bugs in what? In the packages which go to the wrong tray? And what application includes that 'indicator (unity)' applet - I think it shouldn't do that unless unity is installed? [10:49] gry: you mean xfce4-indicator-plugin? [10:50] if you don't want to use it, simply remove it from the panel [22:54] knome: You're the assignee for "Attribute documentation translators" right? ;) Can I just pass the short, proof of concept script I have and be done? [22:54] of course you can ;) [22:56] http://paste.openstack.org/show/PgGsQsa9qy4dslpNuY4Q/ two different options, I think you remember them. It pulls the lists of contributors, though of course is a tad hacky. [23:01] yep, looks good. [23:02] I of course can't do the html hackage, but any more help needed on whichever method slickymaster chooses, and I think I can likely help. [23:03] do we want to inject the credits after converting to html? [23:04] Like in the startpage process? [23:04] well, yeah... [23:04] because the other option is to mess with the xml. [23:05] I think html is a better bet, no? [23:05] i don't prefer either way [23:05] Unless you would rather somehow do an #include. [23:05] hmmh [23:05] that might be a good option [23:05] but the include would need to be dynamic [23:06] well, actually not [23:06] because we could just be sneaky and change the same file to other content [23:07] Or re-generate it and remove. :P [23:07] well, that [23:07] but practically the same, since the index file could be static [23:09] hmm, this looks promising [23:16] for some reason, the included file must have one wrapping element or the XML parsing will fail [23:16] but we can overcome that. [23:17] ...i think [23:18] hmm... [23:20] Unit193, http://paste.openstack.org/show/Ij9D2RgY1KB6Cb5XpG0Z/ [23:20] that's the markup we need [23:20] not too hard, eh? [23:21] then in index.xml, something like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/390DO9UEoWDKcGyOURTR/ [23:22] of course, it's a bit meh with the default language, because we can't revert the so easily [23:29] http://paste.openstack.org/show/nVtJFesnc45w9aPj5Q1U/ there's the output. [23:30] you need too [23:30] Well yes, but that's the simple one. [23:30] and we do not want the launchpad contibutors line. [23:32] So, changed. (Those were simple.) [23:32] yeah [23:32] that's the only thing we need from the included xml [23:33] i'm also considering how we should word the [23:33] it might be a good idea to note that those people did not necessarily *translate* anything, but might have helped with the technical side or sth. [23:33] Some output 'translator-credits', but no Language above the cutoff will do that. [23:33] I don't get my name there anywhere. :( [23:33] :P [23:33] well the script could change that to "Unknown" [23:34] what even creates that situation? [23:34] only suggestions in LP? [23:34] or things that need reviewing? [23:34] because those aren't saved as translations in the .po files. [23:34] which is... silly [23:34] or they are fuzzy or something. [23:34] i can't remember, it's too much time [23:35] but there was something "meh" about it [23:35] http://paste.openstack.org/show/9IKKhGnExd2SjY0ZwrBw fixed! Yeah, that's when there isn't any listed translators. [23:35] d'oh! [23:36] the start tag is without / ;) [23:36] I know that. :P [23:37] http://paste.openstack.org/show/4VjQ9nQ0oApHx4mcSTbJ/ so that's really what it'd be. [23:37] yyyyep [23:37] that looks good. [23:38] do you want to land the stuff in a branch? [23:38] i can help with the missing bits, i sorted it out locally [23:38] Are you really sure you want to commit something like http://paste.openstack.org/show/GCsmT8eQqgKMFcfd1lkw with so much sed? :P [23:39] well, [23:39] i don't know why sed would be so evil [23:39] if it works for us [23:39] i mostly just want this out. [23:39] then, if people have suggestions how to improve it, do that. [23:40] Want to drop the grep_creds, or fix it? [23:40] but for now we don't have anything else, so either we put it out like this, and *have it*, or wait for somebody to come up with something "better", which might take a long time [23:40] that just outputs? [23:41] Right, it uses the grep feature rather than building then checking. It's no faster, but may be cleaner. [23:41] ah, right. [23:41] i don't think i have a strong opinion [23:41] fwiw, you can even leave it there [23:41] if it's potentially helpful later [23:42] just leave a note that it's not used [23:44] http://paste.openstack.org/show/niMrCLdTLtMhN2uO7YWA/ <<< [23:44] looks good. [23:44] what do you think about the placement of the translator credits? [23:44] i was thinking after the documentation contributors, but before the contributors to the old docs [23:45] http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/ln-idp57636336.html Somewhere in here? [23:45] Yep, exactly. [23:45] yeah, then dump one of my pastes there [23:45] and the next question: [23:46] actually, nvm [23:46] or, yeah... [23:46] different POV: [23:47] where do we need/want to create the temp xml file? [23:48] Either the current working dir, desktop-guide/tmp/ or perhaps desktop-guide/libs/ ? [23:48] current working dir is meh, because it's included related to the index.xml file. [23:49] i was thinking libs, as long as it's cleaned and does not get copied to the installation :P [23:49] tbh, it shouldn't matter too much where it is, again as long as it doesn't get left in the installation [23:49] So here's the problem, does the build bail if the include file is missing? [23:49] probably. [23:49] but i'd guess you can just have an empty one. [23:50] so touch that and delete for non-translator-languages [23:50] hmm, no. [23:50] boo [23:51] Actually, I need to change that script to follow what I made translate.sh do. [23:51] Oh, was I supposed to add my name as part of translate.sh's copyright header? :P [23:52] as you said, we probably don't run into problems with "no translators", because those won't be built [23:53] but you could just drop "No creditable translators" or sth [23:53] (having an empty file fails the build, it expects to have some content...) [23:54] i have a fancy idea. [23:54] which would need more work [23:54] but we could create start-translator-credits.xml [23:54] which would *only* have the starting paragraph [23:55] which would be translatable. [23:55] then create the temp file, and *if* there was translators, include start-translator-credits.xml and list the translators. [23:55] otherwise, show empty content [23:56] which would solve the problem for the default language [23:56] and no weird "these are the translators: none, haa-haa"