[00:00] <jose> can't find any flights :P
[00:00] <ahoneybun> so most likely 1600 for the bus, food, and room
[00:00]  * ahoneybun just saw that he would be going to Austria
[00:01] <jose> ahoneybun: now that I checked, I'll be attending a conference 3h from your location
[00:01] <ahoneybun> jose: in Fl?
[00:02] <jose> ahoneybun: yep, fossetcon.org
[00:02] <jose> kinda-same dates at akademy
[00:02] <ahoneybun> orlando?
[00:02] <jose> yes
[00:03]  * ahoneybun really wants to go
[00:03]  * jose has already got his ticket
[00:03] <valorie> I've not heard of that one, jose
[00:03] <valorie> sounds cool
[00:04] <jose> valorie: me neither until this year, they magically invited me
[00:04] <valorie> nice!
[00:04] <valorie> oops, dinner time
[00:04] <jose> enjoy!
[00:05] <ahoneybun> jose: I have heard of it before
[00:05] <ahoneybun> heck I'll stay at the cheapest place if I can go
[00:24] <jose> ahoneybun: maybe we can share a room if that's possible?
[00:25] <ahoneybun> jose: I have no problem with that at all
[00:26] <jose> let me know what you decide and I'll see if I can talk for room-sharing
[00:29] <ahoneybun> I want to go, just wonder if the funds would cover the passport
[00:29] <jose> not sure about that
[00:30] <ahoneybun> yea
[08:21] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1324805] Unable to launch Gnome from KDM in 14.04 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1324805 (by Marcus Karlsson)
[08:43] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:20] <Riddell> "Fathi Boudra (fboudra) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team" yay fabo still loves us!
[09:27] <shadeslayer> hello
[09:27] <shadeslayer> bon dia :D
[09:32] <Riddell> oh molt be shadeslayer 
[09:32] <Riddell> com estas?
[09:33] <yofel> so, scarlett passed with +6 \o/
[09:33] <yofel> who wants to do the paperwork?
[09:33] <Riddell> add her to team, e-mail list and sabdfl?
[09:34] <Riddell> "Scarlett Clark (scarlett-7) has been added as a member of this team."
[09:34] <yofel> pretty much IIRC
[09:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bueno, y tu?
[09:35] <Riddell> em sap greu, no parlo catala
[09:38] <Riddell> mare meva!!
[09:40] <Riddell> what should I do today? merges or plasma next packaging?
[09:40] <Riddell> I'm mostly wanting to do plasma next because I see fedora have an iso out and I'm jelous
[10:12] <shadeslayer> we have an ISO too
[10:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: true
[10:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:33] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1322968] Changing country leads to invalid locale @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1322968 (by Dimitris Kardarakos)
[10:38] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did you backport milou? or should I request it?
[10:45] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh forgot about that, go ahead
[10:45] <shadeslayer> ok
[10:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://open.spotify.com/track/0hzih5wPuGN8tCIZ16puJx
[10:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: now there's a tune that deserved a good bass speaker
[10:47] <shadeslayer> heh
[11:13]  * BluesKaj breaks out the subwoofer test signals
[12:42] <shadeslayer> debfx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/trusty-backports/+bug/1324911
[12:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw I'm keeping our own symbol files
[12:51] <shadeslayer> when merging packages
[12:53] <Riddell> yeah that makes sense
[12:59] <shadeslayer> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-baloo/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/1/console
[12:59] <shadeslayer> much fun
[12:59] <Riddell> 404?
[13:00] <Riddell> why is it red? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-adt-baloo/
[13:00] <Riddell> is this a good red? maybe red is good https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-adt-kde4libs/
[13:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: debhelper is missing a depends on dh-acc
[13:05] <shadeslayer> in Debian/Ubuntu
[13:06] <Riddell> presumably it's optional
[13:06] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Why would debhelper require it?
[13:06] <Riddell> does it not need to be added to build-depends?
[13:06] <shadeslayer> ScottK: <maxy> shadeslayer: Looks like dh-acc is missing a dependency of debhelper in ubuntu
 And in Debian
[13:06] <ScottK> Debhelper doesn't directly depend on the optional bits, you have to do it yourself.
[14:40] <shadeslayer> ufff
[14:40] <shadeslayer> merging packages will take forever
[14:40] <shadeslayer> 139 more to go
[15:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: VCS entries for baloo look wrong
[15:36] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh I should change them to our ones I guess
[15:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yep
[15:39] <shadeslayer> pretty sure I missed a couple too
[15:40] <shadeslayer> need to review on monday
[15:57] <shadeslayer> debfx: haha, neat snowman :D
[15:58] <debfx> shadeslayer: shamelessly copy'n'pasted from http://unicodesnowmanforyou.com/ :)
[15:58] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[15:59] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is there much reason not to switch to 4.13.1 as we merge into debian since debian now has 4.13.1?
[16:00] <shadeslayer> no, infact, I am using the 4.13.1 changelog entries where applicable
[16:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: right but are you using the 4.13.1 tars?
[16:01] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:01] <Riddell> ok cool, I'll do that then
[16:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why the makeshlibs override in http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kdepimlibs.diff ?
[16:09] <Riddell> (at bottom)
[16:12] <shadeslayer> should be dropped, unless it comes from debian
[16:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kdepim looks fine but you drop the 4:4.13.1-1 changelog from debian, any reason?
[16:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: must be a mistake
[16:18] <Riddell> maybe you merged from an older version in debian
[16:18] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[16:18] <shadeslayer> maybe
[16:18] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'll fix those and upload
[16:18] <shadeslayer> awesome!
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: thx for taking care of uploads
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: might be useful to upload kdelibs 4.13.1 as well, but block it in proposed
[16:19] <shadeslayer> so that everything that depends on it is blocked
[16:20] <shadeslayer> then once we upload all of 4.13.1, unblock kdelibs
[16:20] <ScottK> SInce kdelibs is binary compatible, it shouldn't need blocking.
[16:21] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:21] <shadeslayer> then I guess we can keep uploading stuff
[16:29] <Riddell> dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[16:29] <Riddell> don't forget about that shadeslayer 
[16:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yep, I've missed some of those
[16:29] <shadeslayer> as mentioned before :)
[16:29] <shadeslayer> ( realized that yesterday evening )
[16:30] <shadeslayer> it's raining here -.-
[16:31] <ScottK> Rain affects memory?
[16:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: move to edinburgh, it's gorgeous sun here!
[16:31] <yofel> it causes disturbing sound waves
[16:31] <shadeslayer> psht
[16:32]  * yofel sends some more clouds to shadeslayer
[16:32] <shadeslayer> nooo
[16:32] <shadeslayer> y u destroy Barcelona
[16:32] <shadeslayer> it used to be sunny here, till d_ed moved here
[16:33] <yofel> lol
[16:33] <yofel> he can't live without the weather he's used to :P
[16:33] <Riddell> don't worry, I'll bring back the sun
[16:34] <Riddell> although this might affect my ryanair luggage allowance
[16:34] <shadeslayer> I highly doubt it
[16:38] <d_ed> why am I blamed for everything?
[16:40] <Riddell> I wonder why debian don't have watch files
[16:40] <Riddell> d_ed: because you voted for UKIP!
[16:46] <ScottK> Riddell: Mostly because they consider it superfluous for KDE SC.  No one will fail to notice a release happened.
[16:48] <Riddell> makes bzr-buildpackage less likely to work
[16:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is alex still around? seems debian just added a patch to solid to kde4libs
[16:49] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kdepim goes boom! https://launchpadlibrarian.net/176625151/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-i386.kdepim_4%3A4.13.1-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:51] <yofel> ah right, 2 missing libs
[16:52] <yofel> another one for .2 IIRC
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://plus.google.com/115138410189586016392/posts/QwJ8YejWWw4
[16:54] <yofel> heh
[16:54] <Riddell> something is growing!
[16:54] <shadeslayer> looks worse in real life
[16:55] <shadeslayer> ah yes :P
[16:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we did have usr/lib/libgrammar.so before
[16:57] <shadeslayer> !find usr/lib/libgrammar.so utopic
[16:57] <yofel> as I said, it's gone in .1
[16:57] <shadeslayer> ah
[16:57] <yofel> same for another lib
[16:58] <shadeslayer> mmm, missing kgapi too
[16:58] <shadeslayer> what fun ^_^
[16:58] <yofel> kgapi isn't supposed to be missing...
[16:59] <yofel> libpimactivity is
[16:59] <shadeslayer> -- The following OPTIONAL packages have not been found:
[16:59] <shadeslayer>  * LibKGAPI2 (required version >= 2.1.0) , KDE-based library for accessing various Google services , <https://projects.kde.org/libkgapi>
[16:59] <shadeslayer>    LibKGAPI is required to build Google Drive Storage Service
[16:59] <yofel> fun
[17:08] <shadeslayer> yofel: that's not fun, this is http://imgur.com/PMsKOUm
[17:09] <yofel> ^^
[17:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how come you've not been uploading?
[17:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: no reason, just thought I'd get to it at the end
[17:14] <shadeslayer> been locally building things
[17:20]  * shadeslayer loves kompare
[17:27] <Riddell> je4d's baby as I remember
[17:31] <shadeslayer> alright, I'm done for the day, see you on Monday :)
[17:31] <Riddell> have a sunny weekend
[17:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: cervisia is WIP?
[17:42] <Riddell>   * Merge with debian, remaining changes
[17:42] <Riddell>     - Disable tests
[17:42] <Riddell> yofel: around? any idea why libkipi would have that?
[17:43] <yofel> looking
[17:44] <yofel> not really, esp. as I'm not convinced that'll even work 
[17:45] <Riddell> seems he removed kxmlkipicmd too
[17:45] <yofel> ah, libkipi actually has a check whether tests are built so that would work fine
[17:46] <Riddell> still no reason for us to disable it if debian don't
[17:46]  * Riddell adds back
[17:47] <yofel> I'm wondering about that. libkipi might actually work without adt stuff
[17:47] <Riddell> adt stuff?
[17:47] <yofel> autopackagetest
[18:10] <keithzg_> Where does the d come from? heh
[18:50] <Riddell> hi sgclark
[18:51] <sgclark> Riddell: hello :)
[18:52] <Riddell> internet better?
[18:52] <sgclark> yeah, my husband got a nasty virus, darn windows users
[18:57] <santa_> Riddell, sgclark: hi, I have some partial unmature work for plasma-desktop and plasma-workspace, I'm going to push it to a personal bzr branch in a few minutes
[18:57] <santa_> it's too chessy yet, but it's a beginning
[18:57] <sgclark> I have already been working on it
[18:58] <santa_> sgclark: on both? would you mind to publish your work so I could check if I have here something worth sharing?
[18:59] <sgclark> I will when it is ready, i am behind today due to a slight network issue
[19:06] <Riddell> sgclark: well you know the solution to his problems
[19:34] <ahoneybun> Is there a reason muon manager is not installed?
[19:35] <ahoneybun> muon package manager?
[19:36] <yofel> redundant
[19:36] <ahoneybun> yofel: but muon discover limits the searching 
[19:38] <yofel> ahoneybun: it covers most use cases, and for the rest you can either install muon or use ap
[19:38] <yofel> t
[19:41] <ahoneybun> I see
[19:59] <ahoneybun> sgclark: congs!
[20:00] <sgclark> congs?
[20:02] <sgclark> oh thanks :)
[20:20] <ahoneybun> sgclark: welcome to the group!
[20:20] <ahoneybun> yofel: mind if I try to package again?
[20:20] <sgclark> ahoneybun: thanks :)
[20:23] <yofel> ahoneybun: always. I'm a bit busy with life recently but I'm sure Riddell or sgclark can point you to something
[20:23] <ahoneybun> yofel: sweet thanks
[20:24] <ahoneybun> sgclark: the dev stuff is in build-essenstail or something like that
[20:24] <sgclark> ahoneybun: not a good day today, very behind due to some network issues.
[20:24] <ahoneybun> sgclark: np just wanted to know so I have the packages installed for when it is a good day
[20:26] <sgclark> ahoneybun: right and you are going to want to set up a chroot, here is a good guide that worked for me https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[20:28] <ahoneybun> sgclark: thanks
[20:35] <Noskcaj> What does kde need before upower 0.99 can be uploaded to ubuntu?
[20:36] <Noskcaj> Gnome needs the new upower sometime this cycle
[20:45] <santa_> Riddell: so the next kf5 libraries release is june 1? may I help with packaging?
[20:47] <Blizzz> did someone else has had trouble installing ejabberd on 14.04? upon installtion (purged and installed couple times meanwhile)  the service fails to start, ejabberctl always ends with "Failed RPC connection to the node ejabberd@HOST: nodedown"
[20:47] <Blizzz> sry, wrong chan
[21:05] <Riddell> santa_: sure although date is more like whenever dfaure has time
[23:34] <valorie> weeeeee, I got funding!
[23:36] <emma> hi
[23:36] <emma> does Kubuntu 12.04 have any packages for qt5 ?
[23:37] <emma> some software I want to compile tells me I need this stuff: apt-get install qt5-default qt5-qmake qtbase5-dev-tools qttools5-dev-tools \ build-essential libboost-dev libboost-system-dev \ libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev \ libssl-dev libdb++-dev
[23:37] <emma> but apt-get doesn't see any qt5-default etc
[23:41] <valorie> !info qt5-default
[23:42] <emma> Is there a way to get qt5 in Kubuntu 12.04 ?
[23:42] <valorie> oh, what's the code name for 12.04?
[23:42] <valorie> so long ago.....
[23:42] <emma> im not sure, how can i tell?
[23:42] <emma> is there a way to update to the new version of Kubuntu?
[23:42] <valorie> is it precise?
[23:42] <valorie> of course
[23:42] <emma> Yes it is precise
[23:42] <emma> Is it possible to update from Precise to the latest?
[23:43] <valorie> !info qt5-default precise
[23:43] <valorie> there you go
[23:43] <emma> that's not good
[23:43] <valorie> yes, LTS > LTS is always possible
[23:43] <emma> is the current an LTS?
[23:43] <valorie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades/Kubuntu/12.04LTS
[23:43] <valorie> yes
[23:43] <emma> okay
[23:43] <emma> should I make backups before doing the upgrade?
[23:43] <valorie> are you developing?
[23:43] <emma> I don't want to do a whole install
[23:43] <valorie> naturally, always back up
[23:44] <emma> valorie: not exactly.
[23:44] <valorie> ok
[23:44] <emma> just trying to compile so github
[23:44] <emma> something from *
[23:45] <valorie> 12.04 is two years old, so qt5 was not even done back then afaik
[23:56] <DalekSec> 14.04 becomes an upgrade option to Precise users at the first point release, so August.
[23:58] <ScottK> DalekSec: For general consumption that's true. People can upgrade now if they want.