[08:13] <mlankhorst> bdmurray: the udev handler is not installed
[08:13] <bdmurray> mlankhorst: I see that it is not installed for Trusty. Why is that?
[08:15] <mlankhorst> always disabled on release, to prevent data from being leaked
[08:16] <bdmurray> there is sensitive data here? https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/b65606bc-e4a2-11e3-a166-fa163e707a72
[08:19] <mlankhorst> in practice, probably not, but in theory..
[08:22] <bdmurray> mlankhorst: well crashes are reported from supported (not development) releases to errors and I thought the same thing would be useful for the gpu errors. if not then close the bug as invalid or won't fix.
[08:23] <tjaalton> maybe the handler could be split to put the trigger-happy "sensitive" part in a separate thing that's removed before release
[08:24] <tjaalton> hmm wait
[08:24] <bdmurray> what are the sensitive parts? whoopsie doesn't include all the data from apport
[08:24] <tjaalton> it still reports these gpu lockups?
[08:26] <bdmurray> no, they are not reported from "supported" / released releases
[08:26] <tjaalton> right this was from utopic
[08:26] <bdmurray> I'm suggesting that it might be useful to send them to errors
[08:26] <bdmurray> for Trusty
[08:27] <bdmurray> Well, I mean errors is for collecting information from development and supported releases so you might want to send the gpu errors there for the LTS
[08:27] <tjaalton> well, most of these tend to come from "hangs" the user doesn't notice at all, the gpu recovers itself
[08:28] <bdmurray> If it isn't interesting data for fixing them for the LTS then don't send them.
[08:33] <tjaalton> it shouldn't send anything for the lts, since the handler is disabled
[08:33] <tjaalton> the fixes will arrive in point-releases, we don't do much driver sru's anyway
[08:34] <tjaalton> since it's tedious, can't update versions
[08:34] <tjaalton> not that -intel has had a stable release since some time last year
[08:35] <tjaalton> guess it'll be replaced with -modesetting & xserver glamor anyway
[08:35] <bdmurray> I understand the handler is disabled, I'm suggesting that you might enable it and if you do then should include the fix I made to xdiagnose.
[08:35] <tjaalton> right
[08:36] <mlankhorst> sure