| mazal | Morning everyone | 06:25 |
|---|---|---|
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 06:38 |
| bduk1 | More Almal | 06:41 |
| Kilos | morning ThatGraemeGuy bduk1 and everyone else | 06:46 |
| mazal | Môre oom , Greame | 06:47 |
| Kilos | hi maz | 07:20 |
| Kilos | oh my musta falling in a mine | 07:20 |
| Kilos | i go take sheep out | 07:21 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:31 |
| Vince-0 | Hi Kilos | 07:33 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron inetpro plustwo superfly | 08:00 |
| inetpro | good mornings Kilos | 08:02 |
| inetpro | oh and hi everyone else | 08:02 |
| Vince-0 | surp | 08:09 |
| Kilos | hi Golynx | 08:16 |
| Golynx | hi Kilos | 08:17 |
| Golynx | a damn process sucked all my data | 08:17 |
| Golynx | i had the same issue before but with a different process | 08:18 |
| Xethron | greetings peeps | 08:34 |
| Vince-0 | surp | 08:35 |
| Kilos | hi gremble N8Wulf | 09:10 |
| gremble | o/ Kilos | 09:11 |
| superfly | bye! | 09:11 |
| Kilos | oi! superfly whats with the bye? | 09:15 |
| Kilos | didnt i greet you today? | 09:15 |
| Kilos | error (main) couldnt generate image invisible.png while building texture when i open minetest | 09:19 |
| Kilos | what must i do please guys? | 09:19 |
| Kilos | maybe thats why i cant build straight up | 09:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh Kilos did i tell you i managed to find my bones from that time i accidentally fell into the centre of a lava lake | 09:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it turns out they sink to the bottom of the lava lake, so once i'd watered and mined obsidian like 3 layers down i stumbled upon the bones | 09:39 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | good thing too i had lots of mese and diamonds on me at the time | 09:39 |
| Kilos | wow ThatGraemeGuy great, i told you one they they would pitch up | 09:41 |
| Kilos | mese is a pain in my life | 09:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://wiki.minetest.net/Ores says that it gets more common at around -256 | 09:43 |
| Kilos | someone started a new mine right next to my houseand also mine in a disorganised fashion | 09:43 |
| Kilos | ive been to -392 and also found min but stronger | 09:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | wait until they're inside and drop some lava inside the entrance :-D | 09:44 |
| Kilos | the desert mine goes to -392 | 09:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:44 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | there's a desert mine? | 09:44 |
| Kilos | ya man that one where you found the way out | 09:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh wow is it that deep? :-o | 09:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i want to go to -1024 and find some mese blocks | 09:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i wonder if anyone's ever gone down to like -32000 and how long it takes to get there/back up | 09:46 |
| * Squirm yawns | 09:50 | |
| Squirm | going to go and watch Crash Car Burn :D | 09:50 |
| Squirm | tonight | 09:50 |
| Kilos | yip its a major ladder drop | 09:51 |
| Kilos | actually was a ladder climb and you did the last bit where i ran out of wood remember | 09:51 |
| Kilos | i battle to find my way to the desert mine and back again. get confused with the junctions in the road | 09:52 |
| Kilos | thats why i mine straight down as well | 09:53 |
| Kilos | we need to mark routes nicely with different colour blocks | 09:54 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy even gravel just in the branches off the main shaft so one can get back again will work | 09:59 |
| Kilos | so every branch leeds back to the shaft | 09:59 |
| Kilos | leads | 09:59 |
| Kilos | and the desert mine is safe , its past the lava | 10:00 |
| Squirm | how do I find you guys? | 10:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: that's why i like to use a lot of cobble steps and torches, it makes it more obvious where you came from and where to go next | 10:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and that's why we almost got lost after that lava killing episode, because i rushed in and forgot to leave steps and lights | 10:02 |
| Kilos | lol ya whew | 10:03 |
| Kilos | i get totally lost if i gotta turn around | 10:04 |
| Kilos | how you gonna use scroll right and left click onna fone Squirm | 10:05 |
| Squirm | it'll have it's buttons | 10:06 |
| Squirm | what linux client do you use? | 10:06 |
| Kilos | ubuntu has minetest in the repos | 10:06 |
| Squirm | ok, I have it | 10:07 |
| Kilos | they actually work quite hard on it if you watch #minetest | 10:07 |
| Kilos | some clever kids there | 10:08 |
| Squirm | it's stuck downloading media | 10:13 |
| superfly | Kilos: I went out... and now I'm going out again for the rest of the day... bye! | 11:17 |
| mobilemonkey | Lunchtime! | 11:17 |
| Vince-0 | whoot | 11:22 |
| Vince-0 | didn't realise it was Friday | 11:22 |
| Vince-0 | Maaz, tell magespawn how's your Asterisk treating you? | 11:23 |
| Maaz | Vince-0: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode | 11:23 |
| mazal | ThatGraemeGuy, what do you do when you find your bones. I have two lying somewhere that I know where they are , but I can't pick them up or anything | 11:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | right-click them and you'll get to see the stuff you had at the time you died | 11:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | looks just like a chest basically | 11:35 |
| mazal | Can I take it then back ? | 11:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yes | 11:35 |
| mazal | Awesome !!! Thanx | 11:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i think for something like 20 mins after you die only the owner of the bones can take stuff, and after that anyone can | 11:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so hopefully nobody decided to rob your corpse ;-) | 11:36 |
| mazal | Going to get my stuff right now. Already died twice in lava :P | 11:36 |
| mazal | And know exactly where they are lying | 11:36 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | on the edge of lava i assume? | 11:37 |
| mazal | Yep | 11:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i feel on top of a lava lake, and my bones sank to the bottom of the lava | 11:37 |
| mazal | ish | 11:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | took a lot of water and obsidian mining before i could eventually get to them | 11:37 |
| mazal | Is obsidian good for anything ? | 11:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | not really | 11:38 |
| mazal | Can you throw water directly on lava ? | 11:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you can craft a block into 9 shards, and shards can be smelted into obsidian glass, which looks different to normal sand-based glass | 11:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you can, but its tricky | 11:39 |
| mazal | gonna go try now | 11:39 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if you look carefully at lava you will see some blocks look like they are flowing, and you may notice the lava is angled a bit | 11:39 |
| mazal | And somme get my stuff back from the bones | 11:39 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | then there are others that look static and are a perfect flat cube | 11:39 |
| mazal | yep | 11:40 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the flat, static ones are source blocks | 11:40 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | water onto those turns them to obsidian | 11:40 |
| mazal | cool , thanx | 11:40 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the non-source ones turn to stone when they contact water | 11:40 |
| Kilos | hahaha lekker warning message ThatGraemeGuy | 11:43 |
| Kilos | i was sure i built a lit tower here | 11:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the best is when you encounter a lake, try and position yourself above it and usually there's a side of the lake that's only source blocks, then you put a water block down there | 11:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | which warning is that? | 11:43 |
| mazal | Works like a bomb !!! I'm busy killing my killer !!! Revenge is sweet :) | 12:04 |
| mazal | Thanx ThatGraemeGuy | 12:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | cool | 12:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | from now on you will not run from lava in terror ;-) | 12:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i like the lava lakes because they tend to be surrounded by all types of ores | 12:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | go in, water it down and mine like crazy | 12:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | also i didn't mention just now, but there's no need to leave the water there, i let it run over the lava and then left-click it back in the bucket for later use | 12:17 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy now desert mine entrance is as it was meant to be | 13:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh? | 13:32 |
| Kilos | ladder all the way to the top | 13:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ah ok | 13:42 |
| Squirm | Pmb time | 14:04 |
| Squirm | Crash Car Burn tonight | 14:05 |
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| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 14:44 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 14:44 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 14:48 |
| Kilos | Maaz dankie man | 14:50 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier my vriend | 14:50 |
| theblazehen | o/ | 15:12 |
| theblazehen | hi | 15:12 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 16:11 |
| Kilos | yay i found my way home | 16:12 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy you not going home? | 16:12 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed you still here by us? | 16:13 |
| Kilos | Private_User so tell us about it man | 16:13 |
| Private_User | hi Kilos | 16:15 |
| Private_User | tell you about? | 16:15 |
| Kilos | lubuntu man | 16:18 |
| Private_User | lol I was just about to talk about "it" i.e. the word it | 16:19 |
| Private_User | HAHAHA | 16:19 |
| Private_User | its a pronoun by the way for this who did not know | 16:20 |
| Kilos | is it working? has the pc crashed or what? | 16:20 |
| Private_User | hehe | 16:20 |
| Private_User | ah have not had a chance to look at it although | 16:20 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:20 |
| Private_User | yesterday I left it on without touching it | 16:20 |
| Kilos | you windows peeps and your priorities | 16:20 |
| Private_User | and it seems to have froze | 16:20 |
| Kilos | i suppose thats an unupdated/upgraded install | 16:21 |
| Private_User | so I switched it off and was gonna look at it during my Nite Surfer time to perform updates etc but I fell asleep :( | 16:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:22 |
| Kilos | well boot iand we run a file system chaeck | 16:22 |
| theblazehen | hey Kilos | 16:22 |
| Private_User | I am wondering if I should re-image it but I doubt its gonna work with 14.04 | 16:23 |
| Kilos | whew typos | 16:23 |
| Kilos | what release is installed? | 16:23 |
| Private_User | 12.04 | 16:23 |
| Kilos | still supported but 14.04 is better methinks | 16:23 |
| Private_User | remember I had issues with any version above 12.04 | 16:24 |
| Kilos | and no heavier | 16:24 |
| Private_User | could never get it to install | 16:24 |
| Private_User | maybe 14.04 will be different I can give it a try | 16:24 |
| Kilos | hmm... i dont rermember but any way | 16:24 |
| Private_User | ok I have not downloaded Lubuntu 14.04 on Ubuntu 14.04 wondering if 512MB ram is enough for Ubuntu... I doubt it | 16:26 |
| Private_User | *only | 16:26 |
| Kilos | it might install but will be slow | 16:27 |
| Private_User | ok hang on let me move this laptop into the room with the desktop we can mess around with it and maybe fix any issues that might be existing. I think tonight during Nite Surfer time I will update it and maybe download Lubuntu 14.04 | 16:28 |
| Kilos | even xubuntu is lighter | 16:28 |
| Private_User | lighter than L? | 16:28 |
| Kilos | xubuntu much faster than unity | 16:29 |
| Kilos | no l is lightest | 16:29 |
| Private_User | ok and it works fine with regards to performance on the desktop so will leave it as is until I can upgrade or maybe change the laptop OS but I was going to but if clients need me to have a win machine then I would be in a bit of a pickle since I do not even have a copy of any version of win | 16:31 |
| Kilos | all it needs is more ram | 16:31 |
| Kilos | 2g would be ideal | 16:32 |
| Private_User | yep I have 2 slots on the desktop and both filled with 256MB | 16:32 |
| Kilos | ddr? | 16:32 |
| Kilos | or ddr2 | 16:32 |
| Private_User | hmm... DDR I think I will have to double check | 16:33 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:33 |
| Private_User | ok let me go get a snack or maybe even dinner then we can start playing around with Lubuntu | 16:33 |
| Kilos | i struggled to get ddr for my other pc | 16:34 |
| Private_User | ah ok so you guessing it won't be easy to upgrade? | 16:34 |
| Private_User | its cool it serves the purpose for now | 16:35 |
| Kilos | it is available at pc repair shops but they charge more than for ddr3 the swines | 16:35 |
| Private_User | lol | 16:35 |
| Private_User | typical | 16:35 |
| Private_User | always ripping people off | 16:35 |
| Kilos | i have a couple of 500mb cards here | 16:36 |
| Private_User | ok brb | 16:36 |
| Kilos | need full particulars of the cards though, im not sure which are which | 16:36 |
| kbmonkey | evening folks | 17:05 |
| theblazehen | hey kbmonkey | 18:13 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 18:29 |
| superfly | ohi | 18:30 |
| Private_User | back | 18:48 |
| Private_User | Kilos: you off to bed? | 19:06 |
| Kilos | nearly | 19:06 |
| Kilos | maybe 30 mins | 19:07 |
| Private_User | ah ok do you think I should re-image this Lubuntu machine or how can I check if all is well but if this will take a while then we can do it tomorrow | 19:07 |
| Private_User | cause I was doing nothing on it and it was like it was frozen just now so had to reset machine | 19:08 |
| Private_User | ok where are all the package updates stored so if I do re-install then I don't have to use up data again for updates? | 19:10 |
| Kilos | you have a stick to save them to?? | 19:11 |
| Private_User | yep | 19:11 |
| Kilos | sudo rsync -ac /var/cache/apt/archives/ /media/ stick/ folder/ | 19:12 |
| Kilos | after archives/ thats the path to the folder on the stick | 19:12 |
| Kilos | sorry sorry -av | 19:13 |
| Private_User | ok yhis command I run to save the updates to stick or update the machine after re-install? | 19:13 |
| Kilos | sudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /path to folder on stick/ | 19:13 |
| Private_User | *this | 19:13 |
| Kilos | \you reverse the command then do sudo apt-get update and it will see what you have | 19:14 |
| Kilos | but there will most likely be a lot of upgrades because you months behind | 19:15 |
| Kilos | years actually | 19:15 |
| Kilos | so anything up to about 400m | 19:15 |
| Private_User | ok cool but still not sure if I should reload or just perform updates tonight and maybe look at it tomorrow for any issues etc | 19:16 |
| Kilos | well does it boot? | 19:17 |
| Private_User | yep but it like suddenly just does not respond without me touching it | 19:17 |
| Kilos | if it boots then run sudo apt-get update | 19:17 |
| Kilos | was it ever updated/upgraded | 19:18 |
| Private_User | yep it was | 19:18 |
| Kilos | update sees whats available | 19:18 |
| Kilos | upgrade fetches the packages | 19:18 |
| Kilos | so update hardly ever more than 20m | 19:19 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 19:19 |
| Private_User | ok I will do the updates tonight i.e. during Nite Surfer time | 19:19 |
| Private_User | then tomorrow we can test and make sure all is well | 19:19 |
| Kilos | ok run this now lets see if we can sort the prob now | 19:19 |
| Kilos | sudo touch /forcefsck then reboot | 19:20 |
| Private_User | ok its rebooting now | 19:21 |
| Kilos | should be stable after running that | 19:21 |
| Kilos | thats a filesystem check | 19:22 |
| Private_User | ok cool and if anything was wrong it would have told me correct? | 19:22 |
| Private_User | cause its now at login screen | 19:22 |
| Kilos | then its sorted | 19:22 |
| Kilos | do you have aptitude installed? | 19:22 |
| Private_User | ok cool then I will perform updates later | 19:23 |
| Private_User | aptitude I think I might let me check | 19:23 |
| Kilos | Private_User do you have aptitude installed | 19:23 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install aptitude | 19:23 |
| Kilos | then here are your update commands | 19:24 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get update | 19:24 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude upgrade | 19:24 |
| Private_User | ok how would I confirm if its installed Synaptic Package Manager? | 19:25 |
| Kilos | aptitude does kernels and all else where apt-get dont do the kernel stuff | 19:25 |
| Private_User | ok cool I will run these commands after 00:00 cause I assume its gonna get them from the repositories | 19:26 |
| Kilos | it will be marked green in synaptic | 19:26 |
| Private_User | ah there is a tick | 19:26 |
| Kilos | cool | 19:26 |
| Private_User | installed version 0.6.6-1ubuntu1.2 | 19:26 |
| Kilos | so there are your commands | 19:27 |
| Kilos | aptitude dont worry about versions it always works | 19:27 |
| Private_User | ok cool I will run them | 19:27 |
| Kilos | it also tells you if it sees p[robs and lets you choose what it suggests as solutions | 19:28 |
| Kilos | i always trust aptitude | 19:28 |
| captine | Kilos, thanks for that rsync command. Am using it now to backup my archives... | 19:28 |
| captine | :) | 19:28 |
| captine | PS. Hi all | 19:28 |
| Private_User | ok cool | 19:28 |
| Kilos | haha you welcome captine | 19:28 |
| captine | Kilos, I am wiping my ubuntu machine and loading osx on it to lend it to someone as a test for a couple days. | 19:29 |
| captine | back to my acer with ubuntu on it... | 19:29 |
| captine | :) | 19:29 |
| Kilos | rsync has saved me tons of data | 19:29 |
| Kilos | i actually make a storage partition at the end of the drive and rsync to there | 19:32 |
| Kilos | much faster than to a stick | 19:32 |
| Kilos | captine if youve used apt-get clean or auto clean there wont be mouch in the archives | 19:38 |
| Kilos | much | 19:38 |
| Kilos | also one needs to tell synaptic in the beginning to keep all archives | 19:39 |
| captine | never used that | 19:40 |
| captine | i dont mind re-downloading... jsut takes long. i was running an apt-cache server which was GREAT. any machine would get it's downloads from that, at 20MB/s | 19:41 |
| captine | if it was cached | 19:41 |
| Kilos | cool | 19:41 |
| captine | kilos, think you were 100% correct. not many files left in my local archives folder.... darn | 19:45 |
| captine | oh well. will be a big download. | 19:45 |
| captine | just need to backup the installs I have so i can quickly re-install everything | 19:45 |
| Kilos | haha if you dont tell synaptic to save them then it throws some away on its own | 19:46 |
| captine | am hoping to get 2 IBM 2U's and an old Novel based server for home. will then have a decent proxy running to store all this stuff.... old machines, but will be fun to do all this storage stuff | 19:47 |
| Kilos | also when using apt-get to install a package it tells you that some other package isnt needed anymore run apt-get clean to remove it and it clears out your archives | 19:47 |
| Kilos | that is one of the reasons i use aptitude | 19:47 |
| Kilos | that would be nice | 19:48 |
| Kilos | if you got no cap then you can get the whole repo when you sleeping | 19:48 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:49 |
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