[00:00] <Joe_knock> daftykins: Where did you read me say that?
[00:03] <Pruttnisse> Hey guys, I am using Ubuntu, Linux and I have a Dynamic IP.  I am trying to change my IP, how do I it? Any assitnacE?
[00:04] <arthurdent> Pruttnisse: your OS does not determine your IP if you have a Cable or DSL modem
[00:04] <Jordan_U> Pruttnisse: What is your end goal?
[00:04] <tharkun> Pruttnisse: What problem do you have with your current IP?
[00:04] <Pruttnisse> No problem, just curious. I can change windows using flush DNs
[00:05] <mexi_d3> Oh, you just want a new dhcp address from the ISP.
[00:05] <Pruttnisse> yes
[00:06] <user101> ack, my amd driver install has stopped after saying "Continuing package build"
[00:06] <mexi_d3> Try sudo ifdown eth0 (assuming your interface is eth0) then ifup to bring it back. Or just reboot the cable modem or something.
[00:06] <user101> should i cancel and start the driver install again?
[00:06] <matrix> can  any  one help  me ?
[00:07] <user101> ack, now cpu is heating up; fan at full speed
[00:07] <mexi_d3> matrix: Not if you don't explain the problem.
[00:07] <Joe_knock> Are you sure it has stopped? user101
[00:08] <Bashing-om> !ask | matrix
[00:08] <matrix> ok, i installed recently ubuntu 14.4 and i  made 2 partitions
[00:08] <Pruttnisse> how do I chekc
[00:08] <Pruttnisse> what interface
[00:08] <Pruttnisse> i have
[00:08] <matrix> the next partishon is appeared already  but unale to copy or save any  file in it
[00:08] <matrix> how i can  fix this?
[00:08] <syee> quick question: how to use find in the terminal to search for all .sh scripts amongst all the hard drives, i have 4. I know how to do it across one drive but thats it
[00:09] <Joe_knock> matrix, you need to "mount" the partition
[00:09] <Bashing-om> matrix: Is that partition mounted to the file system ?
[00:09] <Joe_knock> !mount
[00:09] <matrix> it mounted already
[00:09] <matrix> but can't same or creat  any file to it
[00:09] <matrix> it tell me that path  doesn't exist
[00:10] <user101> Joe_knock, oh, looks like it finished
[00:10] <user101> i am used to it doing something, not hanging
[00:10] <Joe_knock> user101: It was probably downloading, making it seem like it's frozen
[00:10] <Bashing-om> matrix: How are you mounting, and from here ?
[00:10] <matrix> it is mounted
[00:10] <Bashing-om> here/where *
[00:10] <matrix> i click on  it and i open  it .
[00:10] <matrix> and i see it in the sidebar
[00:11] <matrix> but doesn't work
[00:12] <user101> Joe_knock, probably configuring something; anyway i forgot I can just look at my HDD activity light
[00:12] <matrix> this what  appears to  me when i  try  to save a file to it : /media/matrix/01a6f4f7-4a8e-4386-8b1d-f1d3742f6fda/Untitled 1.odt does not exist
[00:12] <Joe_knock> user101: So is everything right now?
[00:13] <Joe_knock> matrix, you can try checking permissions. Maybe you need to set your mounted drive to have read AND write permissions
[00:13] <matrix> good, how to check  this ?
[00:13] <user101> Joe_knock, i'm not sure now, I tried to install the fglrx deb files but i get depmod 'ERROR: could not open directory /lib/modules/3.14.2-amdfixes5+: No such file or directory"
[00:14] <alfonsojon> user1: Do not ever /ever/ use the FGLRX from ATI
[00:14] <alfonsojon> It will eat your unborn children
[00:14] <Joe_knock> :O
[00:14] <alfonsojon> suto apt-get install fglrx
[00:14] <user101> alfonsojon, then whats the alternative?
[00:14] <alfonsojon> sudo*
[00:14] <user101> alfonsojon, yea, that hasn't really worked for me
[00:15] <alfonsojon> user101: The ATI provided ones are known to break basically everything (if you can even get it installed)
[00:15] <alfonsojon> It's best to avoid installing them at all if possible
[00:15] <alfonsojon> But, for performance sake, installing from the repo is the best option.
[00:16] <user101> alfonsojon, so how do I uninstall this? I'm not even sure if it got installed
[00:17] <alfonsojon> user101: It didn't install.
[00:17] <alfonsojon> If it was a .deb, it would have given up rather than chugging along half-working
[00:17] <alfonsojon> If you use the FGLRX installer, then you're SOL.
[00:17] <Bashing-om> matrix: Be aware linux (ubuntu) does not take kindly to spaces in file nemaes "/Untitled 1.odt" to see the premissions: terminal command -> ls -la  /media/matrix/01a6f4f7-4a8e-4386-8b1d-f1d3742f6fda <-.
[00:18] <Joe_knock> Bashing-om: Well wuddya know...
[00:18] <user101> alfonsojon, yea..., apt-get install tells me fglrx is already installed
[00:18] <matrix> this appeared to me:  total 24
[00:18] <matrix> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 ماي 29 17:52 .
[00:18] <matrix> drwxr-x---+ 3 root root  4096 ماي 30 02:11 ..
[00:18] <matrix> drwx------  2 root root 16384 ماي 29 17:52 lost+found
[00:18] <alfonsojon> user101: To be safe, try this
[00:19] <Bashing-om> Joe_knock: It is just an amazing thing, huh .
[00:19] <Joe_knock> oh no. not a full-paste
[00:19] <alfonsojon> sudo apt-get purge fglrx && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get install fglrx
[00:19] <alfonsojon> If it tells you to remove anything important-looking, abort that crap instantly
[00:21] <Bashing-om> matrix: Who ALL do you want to have access to that partition > we can change the permissions away from 'root' ownership.
[00:21] <matrix> ok, tell me how please?
[00:22] <user101> alfonsojon, well, seems to give me the same install error
[00:22] <user101> let me pastebinit
[00:22] <Bashing-om> matrix: It is your system, I can not tell you how to administer it. Who do you want to have access to your data ?
[00:23] <alfonsojon> user101: sudo apt-get -f install
[00:23] <alfonsojon> then try again
[00:23] <alfonsojon> user101: I take it your APT broke
[00:23] <alfonsojon> correct me if otherwise.
[00:23] <matrix> i just want to be able to save and create files on this part of the hard disk, want to do any  thing on it, i say i  can't creat, can't save, can't copy to  it
[00:23] <alfonsojon> matrix: Is this on a Mac?
[00:24] <matrix> no
[00:24] <alfonsojon> Hm.
[00:24] <matrix> on dell  latitude e6400
[00:24] <user101> alfonsojon, pastebin.com/EAihWebB
[00:25] <matrix> this problem  happened before for some one and i remember he put an  order in the trimenal and then every thing worked propaely
[00:25] <alfonsojon> user101: ....well, that's new.
[00:25] <alfonsojon> I haven't had an ATI/AMD card in years.
[00:25] <alfonsojon> I'll look into it
[00:26] <Bashing-om> matrix: As an example IF you do -> sudo chown -R matrix:matrix /media/matrix then you and 'root' only have access to it ..
[00:26] <user101> alfonsojon, i wonder if it is a problem with running XBMCbuntu  trusty?
[00:28] <matrix> thanks
[00:28] <matrix> it worked
[00:28] <Bashing-om> matrix: Great ! : )
[00:29] <zetacu> hi everyone, I have a dell N5010 and it has an ATI radeon 4xxx video card, I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD section 3.2 (the other ones didn't work). when I try to install it on step 7 it says I cant because of the linux-headres, the thing is that I already have them, doing a "uname -a" it says 3.13.0-27-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 15 18:06:16 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:29] <alfonsojon> user101: Highly unlikely
[00:29] <daftykins> zetacu: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:29] <alfonsojon> zetacu: 4xxx cards have been dropped in 12.10 and beyond if I recall correctly
[00:29] <zetacu> 14.04
[00:29] <alfonsojon> ATI did.
[00:29] <alfonsojon> well, AMD
[00:30] <daftykins> zetacu: yeah, as alfonsojon points out, your card has been dropped. the only thing you can run is the legacy fglrx driver on 12.04.1
[00:30] <zetacu> I know they dropperd but I'm using the legacy driver that it says it works... I hope
[00:30] <daftykins> zetacu: no, 'radeon' is the only driver you can use now
[00:31] <trndr> zetacu, there is an unofficial ppa for the legacy drivers, although I don't know if they updated it to 14.04
[00:31] <alfonsojon> I think you can use the open-source drivers
[00:31] <daftykins> pretty sure info online says that anything newer than 12.04.1 isn't compatible with fglrx legacy due to X server changes and so on
[00:31] <zetacu> is just that the computer heats a lot
[00:32] <matrix> i have another problem, my wireless card is not working it is n't readong any wireless network around while it is exist already
[00:33] <user101> matrix, was it working before whatever you just did?
[00:34] <matrix> no, it was working on windows microsoft, nut it didn't work  after i installed ubuntu, i log into  the internet by 3g
[00:34] <Bashing-om> matrix: Sorry, that one I have to pass on, wireless is not in my sphere of expertise ( if any).
[00:35] <user101> matrix, my guess is that ubuntu doesn't play well with your wifi card
[00:35] <matrix> thanks for help ,
[00:35] <user101> matrix, you would need to manually install the driver
[00:35] <matrix> i guess so, i tryed to read help and it says it is some times doesn't work
[00:36] <matrix> ok, can any  one help  me to  install this driver?
[00:36] <matrix> i  use dell  latitude e6400
[00:36] <zetacu> the thing is that on the legacy drivers if I put --listpkg it says "Ububty/trusty" so my guess is that on 14.04 is supported on the legacy
[00:36] <alfonsojon> zetacu: Impossible
[00:36] <Joe_knock> matrix: What is your system?
[00:36] <alfonsojon> Xorg differences make it incompatible
[00:36] <matrix> ubuntu 14.4
[00:37] <Joe_knock> matrix: I mean your hardware
[00:37] <Joe_knock> sorry
[00:37] <alfonsojon> Unless you revert your xorg to an earlier version (very dangerous and NOT recommended, will most likely break Compiz & Unity & eat your unborn children/cat)
[00:37] <matrix> i don't know in fact, can you  tell me how to check?
[00:37] <zetacu> @alfonsojon lol
[00:38] <daftykins> zetacu: this is a laptop, yes?
[00:38] <user101> matrix, pastebin your lspci output
[00:38] <zetacu> yes is a laptop Dell N5010 like 4 years old
[00:39] <matrix> don't understand , sorry
[00:39] <jobarte> hi guys
[00:39] <greenman> Hi.  I have x11 forwarding set to yes in my sshdconfig and I have x11 forwarding configured on the client side.  Any idea why no x11 forwarding?
[00:39] <jobarte> I have ufw on openvz and it don't work for outgoing connections, only for incoming
[00:39] <agspy1> Is there any easy way to transfer over drivers from a previous OS?
[00:40] <Joe_knock> agspy1: Possibly, but what are you attempting to do?
[00:40] <user101> matrix, open your teminal, type "lspci | pastebinit"
[00:40] <agspy1> I currently have windows 8, and I am going to switch over to ubuntu, and I just wanna make sure nothing gets lost over the switch.
[00:40] <infinmetopian> hi
[00:40] <synth_> anyone have any experience with xwiki?
[00:41] <matrix> i needed to install  aprogram  and i install it now
[00:41] <Joe_knock> agspy1: I think drivers written for windows won't work for ubuntu.
[00:41] <matrix> this is the answer :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7547791/
[00:42] <user101> matrix, looks like you got a Broadcom Corporation BCM4322
[00:42] <agspy1> Joe_knock: If I switch over, are things such as my webcam, my wireless mouse/keyboard still going to connect in correctly, or am I going to have to find new things.
[00:42] <matrix> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[00:42] <matrix> yes
[00:42] <user101> matrix, you can google that and see if there is any guide for installing its drivers in ubuntu
[00:42] <Joe_knock> agspy1: These things would normally work after installing the drivers for them.
[00:42] <user101> thats how i usually do it
[00:43] <matrix> ok, will do  now
[00:43] <user101> matrix, looks like there are some guides on installing it in google
[00:44] <agspy1> Joe_knock: Since I am a ubuntu noob, as you can probably tell, does it auto-download these drivers like windows does, or do I have to manually do it?
[00:45] <Joe_knock> agspy1: During the installation process, it should download them for you. If you feel unsafe taking this bold step, perhaps you can dual-boot your system to have windows and ubuntu
[00:45] <dhuan> where do you watch bb?
[00:45] <matrix> yes
[00:46] <user101> matrix, actually, looks like Broadcom has the driver files and install guide
[00:46] <matrix> reading some
[00:46] <user101> go to: www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[00:47] <Bashing-om> matrix: the BCM4322 is seen a lot on ubuntuforums, google hit list: -> site:ubuntuforums.org BCM4322 <- .
[00:47] <user101> matrix, the broadcom site has a readme with install details
[00:48] <user101> alfonsojon, so do you have any idea what to do about installing the amd driver?
[00:48] <user101> i may have to do a forum post on it for more help
[00:50] <matrix> it giving me a file
[00:50] <matrix> and i downloaded it
[00:50] <Joe_knock> user101: What was your issue?
[00:50] <matrix> but don't know how to work in it
[00:50] <Joe_knock> a .deb file? matrix
[00:51] <matrix> user101
[00:51] <matrix> no to deb
[00:51] <matrix> it is gz
[00:51] <Joe_knock> matrix: a tar.gz file means that you need to "build" the package yourself.
[00:51] <Romz> Is it normal that the minimal install of 14.04 doesn't allow choosing a Virtual machine, like the server version which let you choose Default server, Minimal system, Virtual machine after pressing F4?
[00:51] <Romz> I'm trying to press F4 at any step of the install with the minimal version but there is no way I can choose Virtual machine
[00:52] <matrix> hmm, how to  do this. i
[00:52] <matrix> i'm all  new to  ubuntu
[00:52] <Romz> Does that mean I have to download the server version instead of the minimal version so I can choose Virtual machine at the begining of the install?
[00:53] <Joe_knock> !tarball
[00:53] <Joe_knock> :D!
[00:53] <matrix> ok
[00:53] <Joe_knock> !tar
[00:53] <Joe_knock> !compile
[00:54] <Joe_knock> there you go matrix.
[00:55] <jacob___> hello
[00:55] <matrix> ok, i will try
[00:55] <jacob___> why doesnt adobe acrobat reader show multiple pages next to each other like in windows
[00:55] <jacob___> ?
[00:55] <jacob___> i have widescreen
[00:55] <agspy1> Joe_knock: Being the noob I am, how do you get the iso onto a usb stick?
[00:56] <jacob___> is there an open source pdf reader for ubuntu?
[00:56] <jostrander> quick question. Ubuntu 14.04 Xinerama Dual head via Dual nvidia gtx 660's. Problem: Black windows after loss of focus on the window. anyone have an idea?
[00:56] <Joe_knock> jacob___: Most likely part of the default view, you can change it.
[00:56] <Joe_knock> !usb
[00:56] <jacob___> I looked everywhere but ddint find anything
[00:57] <jacob___> i think it not exist like it does for windows
[00:57] <Joe_knock> agspy, I personally install ubuntu through a virtual drive.
[00:57] <jacob___> I installed through usb
[00:57] <jacob___> autoboot
[00:57] <Joe_knock> oh "Why doesn't". I read as "why does". jacob___ i'm not sure about that jacob
[00:58] <jacob___> do you have ubuntu ? Joe_knock as we speak?
[00:58] <jacob___> how is the setting look for you?
[00:58] <jacob___> how is the setting look too you?
[00:59] <jacob___> anyway , someone know a good open source reader for pdf files
[00:59] <Joe_knock> jacob___: yes, I think everyone on here does.
[00:59] <Joe_knock> I don't have acrobat reader. I use the ubuntu version to read pdfs
[00:59] <jacob___> oh by the way, when i tried exporting (in adobe reader) the pdf as "txt" it crashed
[00:59] <jacob___> wtf? lol
[00:59] <jacob___> i removed it with apt-get
[01:00] <Joe_knock> jacob___: Document Viewer
[01:00] <jacob___> Joe_knock: you know a good pdf reader (not document viewer)
[01:00] <trism> jacob___: I like okular, if you don't mind pulling in kde deps
[01:00] <Firefishe> jacob___, okular
[01:01] <user101> matrix, if you read the Readme.txt from the broadcom site, you will see the instructions are there for installing in ubuntu
[01:01] <Joe_knock> Search the software centre, jacob___ as I cannot make recommendations for software (I already made mine)
[01:01] <matrix> i'm working on it
[01:02] <user101> Joe_knock, I'm trying to install amd driver, fglrx, but I got an error and alfonsojon did not know how to resolve it
[01:02] <user101> it must be a complicated thing
[01:02] <jacob___> my problem is finally , i need to translate a manual from french to english
[01:02] <jacob___> i got the manual (after lot of trouble) in html
[01:04] <user101> Joe_knock, do you know if the install failure is probably because I have my monitor hooked up to the card(VGA) while I am installing the driver?
[01:04] <Joe_knock> user101: That would be a counter-intuitive way for anybody to provide a driver. How do you install it without seeing it?
[01:05] <user101> Joe_knock, use the mobo vga?
[01:05] <Joe_knock> oh wait, I thought you meant the mobo vga. you have a separate graphics card?
[01:05] <user101> yes
[01:06] <uofm49426> can i get a little help with grub or do i need to go to a grub xchat
[01:06] <Joe_knock> it's worth a try. Although I don't think that is the case. It's most likely an issue with the driver.
[01:06] <user101> i have my monitor hooked up to the video card for which i want to install the driver
[01:06] <user101> i see
[01:06] <daftykins> uofm49426: is it used to boot ubuntu?
[01:06] <uofm49426> yeah
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, We address grub issue here, depends on the issue really, go head and give the gist.
[01:06] <matrix> i think i  need help, what all  i  did is i unzipped the package
[01:07] <daftykins> uofm49426: describe what's up
[01:07] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: hey long time no see o/
[01:07] <user101> matrix, so are you in that directory now?
[01:07] <matrix> yes
[01:08] <user101> ok
[01:08] <matrix> this is the name of the file
[01:08] <matrix> bcmwl-6.30.223.141+bdcom
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, I have been masquerading as beldar
[01:08] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: :O!
[01:08] <benoror> Hello. I have an issue with my keyboard media keys in Unity. Volume Up works well, but V.Down and Mute don't work at all. The keys are detected correctly in "unity-control-center keyboard". BTW, all work correctly in LightDM welcome screen. Any ideas?
[01:08] <user101> matrix, did you download the correct version, 32-bit or 64-bit?\
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> I have like 4 nicks
[01:08] <uofm49426> well im running 14.04 on corebios  it dont like usb butting in fact to install on it i need to do so from my desktop and transfer the drive to my laptop
[01:09] <uofm49426> well im running 14.04 on corebios  it dont like usb booting in fact to install on it i need to do so from my desktop and transfer the drive to my laptop
[01:09] <matrix> i'm not sure
[01:09] <matrix> wait
[01:10] <user101> run uname -arv to find out
[01:10] <uofm49426> so i shrunk my swoop and made a little  gb partion want to use it like a recovery disk
[01:11] <matrix> it is not writtten in  the files or  on  website
[01:11] <uofm49426> so i shrunk my swoop and made a little 2 gb partion want to use it like a recovery disk
[01:11] <user101> matrix, you went to http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php ?
[01:11] <LocusAsaf> does anyone know about this problem http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2154-1/?
[01:12] <LocusAsaf> how do I know if my computer was updated properly here?
[01:12] <matrix> no
[01:12] <uofm49426> want to store a iso there and boot from that if i need to
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, You can boot an iso with grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, I have no idea what a corebios is.
[01:15] <shunya_chakra> hi if i type sudo apt-get upgrade vlc      will it work to upgrade it?
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, If there is a update the standard update upgrade will pull it in.
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> You get what is in the repos shunya_chakra
[01:17] <uofm49426> gpart has root partion at sda1  a expand 4gb sda2 then swap is sda5 and the partion i made is sda6 so what is sda6 in terms of hd0,x
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426,  sda6
[01:18] <uofm49426> would it be hd0,4 because there is only 4 partion
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, Are you uding grub-legacy?
[01:18] <uofm49426> grub2
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> using
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, How are you using hd0,x?
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> this a default boot for the grub menu uofm49426
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> issue
[01:19] <shunya_chakra> ok wilee-nilee  thanks.. my vlc acting crazy lol
[01:19] <uofm49426> grub'd 40
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, Did you se the grub boots iso link?
[01:21] <uofm49426> error can find disk and loading kernel error
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, Making a whole partition just to boot an iso is not needed, is my issue, just tring to understand your end goal here. ;)
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> for installing from it yes however
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> either or will work.
[01:22] <uofm49426> the idea unless the drive goes that partion will be presserved
[01:23] <ivancito> hello
[01:23] <uofm49426> in a truck drive im not home often so f say something goes wrong
[01:23] <uofm49426> in a truck driver im not home often so f say something goes wrong
[01:24] <paradoxo> alguem fala portugues?
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, Ah, well I can afford a disc or usb, if you are relying on that only it could mean failure at some point.
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> !pt | paradoxo
[01:24] <ivancito> Alguien habla español??
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> !es | ivancito
[01:26] <uofm49426> well it a pain in the butt to pull out the hd from my laptop and fresh install using my desktop the transfer the drive back
[01:26] <arfent> Quick question, what do I insert after 'sudo apt-cache policy' when I want to see if I have the latest updates installed?
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, If you want a Back up of the OS you clone the install to a usb, plug in boot and your there.
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> you could*
[01:28] <uofm49426> why can update pick up a window usb but not a live ubuntu usb
[01:28] <uofm49426> why can grub-update pick up a window usb but not a live ubuntu usb
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, Can you make that more clear?
[01:28] <Kion> I have been using Ubuntu for 6 or 7 years, I wiped a friends old windows and installed ubuntu, now she told me that she could not use netflix, I really never use it, can someone point me in the right path as to how to make it possible to view it under Ubuntu?
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> !netflix | Kion
[01:31] <Kion> ubottu: have you used Netflix desktop?
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, Grub will see a full install on a usb. Relying on the installed grub to boot if there is trouble is a bit of a fools paradise.
[01:31] <uofm49426> i have a window 7 usb not on me because if forgot it at home but went i run update-grub it will pick up windows 7 loader but not a usb  of a live ubuntu usb
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu install gone means no grub boot for example
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, Did it boot that W7 from grub?
[01:32] <uofm49426> no not really got a payload error
[01:33] <shunya_chakra> hi is there any good alternative of vlc for ubuntu
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, Than there is your answer
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> seeing and booting is a whole other deal. ;)
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, My grub sees my multiboot usb, could be it's that product, never tried to boot it though.
[01:34] <Kion> exit
[01:34] <uofm49426> what i was talking about with the hd0,x
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> uofm49426, I'm gonna let you go, you answers are not really accurate and If I'm correct in my assumptions your going about this in a haphazard way.
[01:36] <uofm49426> set root=(hd0,6)
[01:36] <linuxuz3r> whats a good way to vnc from mac to ubuntu
[01:45] <uofm49426> i have 4 partion root is first, sda1,in grub its  hd0,1   a expanded logical  sda2  is hd0,2 , swap jump to sda5 no sda 3 or 4  but its 3rd partion so its hd0,3 and sda6  were iso  is hd0,4 right
[01:51] <metalbrick> anyone familiar with KDE development ?
[01:51] <metalbrick> I got some simple questions
[01:52] <xeno> Say, is there a shell facility, commonly used, that can take a directory tree content signature/hash/checksum that is independent of dates affected by things like touch?
[01:54] <matrix> hello
[01:54] <matrix> can  any one help me about how  to  make fresh  installation?
[01:54] <Jordan_U> xeno: I don't think git cares about ctime by default. What is your end goal?
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> !install | matrix
[01:55] <metalbrick> anyone ?
[01:55] <Bashing-om> matrix: Maybe, depends - for me - if the install is UEFI for the booting, no experience..
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> !details | metalbrick
[01:56] <metalbrick> OK
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> metalbrick, just ask the questions. ;)
[01:56] <matrix> listen , i had a problem  in wireless driver, it doesn't work, my computer is dell  latituse it is bdcom 43***
[01:56] <metalbrick> I think I was offline
[01:56] <metalbrick> and not receive a single message
[01:57] <xeno> Jordan_U:  I am not sure my project partner has the energy and time to learn and use git.
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | matrix you been here?
[01:57] <metalbrick> I gave a little try with KNotification in QT Creator
[01:57] <matrix> i did, and i read it and downloaded the filrs and unzipped it, and made some steps and can't contenue
[01:57] <xeno> I would really prefer a simple program where I can just go:  myprogram topnode
[01:57] <matrix> can  any  one hep?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> metalbrick, Concise and all in one post if possible.
[01:57] <xeno> and have it generate a checksum just like md5sum does.
[01:58] <metalbrick> and the program won't get successfully build
[01:58] <Jordan_U> xeno: What is your end goal?
[01:59] <metalbrick> I gave a little try with KNotification in QT Creator and the program won't get successfully build, some weird errors, I could not even get an answer on google
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> matrix, You see the bots message to you?
[01:59] <xeno> To be able to see that two files I download with filezilla have the same checksum in two easy steps.
[01:59] <metalbrick> :-1: error: mainwindow.o: undefined reference to symbol '_Z5ki18nPKc' / /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5:-1: error: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[01:59] <metalbrick> I think it might be something I did wrong in configuration
[02:00] <xeno> A lot of the folks I may work with will have fears of complex command line things.
[02:00] <matrix> what bot?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | matrix
[02:00] <xeno> So, If I impose command line at all, it needs to be simple and clear and easy to get right.
[02:01] <matrix> BCM4322
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> matrix, Notice we use the nicks as a preface when communicating, that is how you know we be talkin to yah.
[02:01] <xeno> I could just take an md5sum of a file listing files with their md5sums, but if there is an existing facility, I'd prefer to use that.
[02:01] <matrix> ok
[02:01] <GinYhJ04> Esto
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[02:02] <matrix> i found it and i found it useless
[02:02] <ZzmZyB54> Esto
[02:02] <BHqMiD29> Esto
[02:02] <metalbrick> And why I didn't receive a single message in channel kde-devel
[02:02] <TdcFqY46> Esto
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[02:02] <matrix> i need if you can be with me step  by step
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[02:02] <xeno> Gee guys.  That is very unhelpful.
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[02:03] <somsip> !ops
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[02:04] <xeno> Okay, for now this channel is trashed.
[02:05] <somsip> xeno: give the ops chance to sort it out
[02:08] <bonez2046> I just upgraded my ubuntu box to 14.x... and the gui comes up with the pointer  showing and nothing else. Anyone else  experience this?
[02:08] <bonez2046> how do I get  gnome  or metacity to load?
[02:18] <matrix> i am at the install step after "make" and I wanted to run lsmod  | grep "brcmsmac\|b43\|ssb\|bcma\|wl" to make sure there are no conflicts. But the system doesn't output anything and just hangs.
[02:18] <matrix> iam following the instructions on http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[02:33] <ishmael> Hey, where should I go to look for boot-repair help?
[02:34] <Jordan_U> ishmael: You can ask about your original problem here.
[02:35] <ishmael> Hey, where should I go to look for boot-repair help?
[02:36] <holstein> ishmael: please dont repost
[02:36] <holstein> !grub
[02:36] <holstein> ishmael: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:36] <ishmael> My bad on the repost - first time here. Thanks @ubottu
[02:36] <holstein> ishmael: ubottu is a bot.. i asked it to give you the information
[02:37] <ishmael> Ah, I see. Then thank you holstein, haha
[02:37] <sabrehagen> hi guys, is there a way to delete multiple strings with tr? i'm trying tr -d 'a' 'b' 'c' but this isn't working. is there a way to do this without repeatedly piping to tr?
[02:42] <sabrehagen> it seems that using 'a|b|c' will do this, thanks
[02:44] <sovereignentity> I hve no  internet access wireless or wired
[02:45] <sovereignentity> Acter an update
[02:45] <sovereignentity> After
[02:45] <holstein> sovereignentity: try the older kernel
[02:46] <holstein> sovereignentity: sounds suspicious of configuration, however.. if you reboot and dont have access, try ifcongfig in a terminal
[02:46] <DrakkenWarr> especially for a wired connection. That is not normal
[02:48] <sovereignentity> Grub doesn't show the old kernel
[02:48] <holstein> sovereignentity: you can tap shift at boot to unhide grub
[02:48] <holstein> sovereignentity: the older kernels are under a menu entry in grub called "previous kernels"
[02:49] <BlackWeb> Has anyone upgraded to 14.04 & been able to use samba
[02:50] <holstein> BlackWeb: not on an upgrade from 13.10, or otherwise.. but, samba is working in 14.04
[02:50] <BlackWeb> I did a fresh install of 14.04 & cant get samba going
[02:50] <holstein> BlackWeb: ok.. ask a question if you like
[02:50] <BlackWeb> its running I'm trying to share a directory, I go into windows machine and it doesnt even see the server
[02:51] <holstein> BlackWeb: i usually start simple.. pinging.. taking down firewalls to test.. connecting to samba locally and from another linux box with gigolo or whatever
[02:51] <BlackWeb> Heres my config http://paste.ubuntu.com/7548392/
[02:52] <holstein> BlackWeb: if you "cant even see the server" you wont be able to connect to any services.. address that issue first
[02:53] <BlackWeb> The windows machine cant see the server at all, so its not just a share its not seeing
[02:53] <BlackWeb> is what I meant
[02:54] <eoss> how does telnet client know when telnet server is done sending data?
[02:55] <BlackWeb> What does the ; symbol mean in the config
[02:55] <BlackWeb> Does it mean to end the previous line of code then start process the nexts????
[02:55] <CrypticByte> anyone know how to keep docky from deleting my launchers LOL I made a few launchers to games they work on the bar but when I reboot pc they disappear
[03:00] <corp123> hello
[03:01] <corp123> im trying to start gnome-encfs-manager but it runs in the background and i cant see the applet anywhere, only when i run it as sudo
[03:01] <corp123> same problem if i set it to autostart too
[03:01] <corp123> what can cause programs to do that?
[03:06] <R0b0t1> Hello, I'm not receiving updates on 12.04 because of errors downloading software sources? I think from security.ubuntu.com, lemme get the error to paste. It takes a while.
[03:08] <whoever\> Romer: comment it from your source list to fix the problem
[03:10] <Jordan_U> whoever\: R0b0t1: Just commenting out a repo is *not* a solution since you still need security updates. Solving the problem and removing the error message are not equivalent.
[03:10] <junkanoo> anyone know what the default pw is for the ftp user that is created when you install vsftp?
[03:10] <BlackWeb> Can anyone paste there working samba config file so I can compare it with mine?
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, You might give us the whole updates text and the sources.list
[03:11] <lenswipe> hey guys
[03:12] <lenswipe> software dev here with a blank 32 bit ubuntu server box kicking around
[03:12] <lenswipe> anyone got any suggestions?
[03:12] <lenswipe> It was going to be a docker box until I found out that docker doesn't support 32 bit
[03:13] <lenswipe> also can someone tell me why it's possible to install a package from the ubuntu repos that wont run?
[03:13] <MarcusAurelius> Hello guys. I'm using Cinnamon on top of regular Ubuntu. When I try to use an alternative plugin for filetypes on Firefox, I get taken to selection screen to pick something from somewhere in my hard drive--
[03:13] <lenswipe> that is to say, if it's not compatable with 32 bit arch, maybe it shouldn't be made available to me?
[03:13] <MarcusAurelius> I'm trying to use VLC as a plugin (or see any alternative)
[03:13] <MarcusAurelius> I don't know where to find it
[03:13] <Guest42387> BlackWeb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7548479/
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> MarcusAurelius, /user/bin
[03:14] <MarcusAurelius> wilee-nilee: Thanks! I'll check there
[03:14] <BlackWeb> Heres mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/7548392/   I cant get mine working
[03:17] <Guest42387> BlackWeb, did you check the Samba host with "ping ip" (as holstein did suggest)? - Also is the service running ("sudo netstat -tulpn" or "sudo service smbd status")?
[03:18] <BlackWeb> smbd start/running, process 32657   -  So try pinging samba server with windows machine
[03:20] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: I will, where is sources.list?
[03:20] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: Updater complains about my internet connection, I am not sure why this halts the whole update. Some things complete.
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:21] <daveeejr> i have followed all instructions using policy kit,  but i cannot get hibernate back into the gui.  can anyone help with this?
[03:22] <daveeejr> this is on 14.04
[03:22] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: http://paste.strictfp.com/40409
[03:23] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: http://paste.strictfp.com/40410
[03:23] <defer-> just type /quit whoever, and it'll quit them from irc
[03:24] <daveeejr> is there a developer here? i have not been able to solve this for months
[03:24] <daveeejr> i am using ubuntu 14.04 and i have followed all instructions using policy kit, but i cannot get hibernate back into the gui. can anyone help with this?
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, Were you on earlier with an update issue?
[03:27] <daveeejr> anybody?
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> daveeejr: whats your issue mate
[03:28] <junkanoo> so I have vsftpd installed, but there is no init script for it
[03:28] <junkanoo> how do i restart
[03:28] <junkanoo> service vsftpd restart no dice either
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: man vsftpd shows anything usefull?
[03:29] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: I don't think so.
[03:29] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: This is rather sudden, I only noticed it recently... I tried fixing it by removing some repos, but that didn't fix it.
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[03:30] <junkanoo> not really
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1,  I could maybe figure this out, but the work is a little much for me at this moment. I would try changing the repo as a start and see what happens.
[03:31] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, yeah looking at that page... but the /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart doesn't work
[03:31] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, the init script is not there for some reason
[03:31] <junkanoo> the apt-get install ran through to completion fine though
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: maybe the #vsftpd guys might know it?
[03:31] <junkanoo> and there are /etc/vsftpd conf files
[03:32] <junkanoo> y
[03:32] <junkanoo> never anyone there though
[03:33] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure which repo though. I guess I'll look more closely at it.
[03:33] <crocket> hi
[03:33] <crocket> How can I download ppa packages directly?
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: did you chroot and such?
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, IN software and updates you can have it find the quickest server hit first tab download from
[03:35] <R0b0t1> Sorry which program?
[03:35] <R0b0t1> Software Center?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> crocket, The repo link is not good enough? PPA's are not technically supported here.
[03:35] <crocket> wilee-nilee, I want to download lucid packages on 14.04
[03:35] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, you mean chroot_local_user
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, software and updates type it in the dash if unity
[03:35] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, what does that have to do with init scripts to stop/start/etc
[03:35] <cfhowlett> crocket expect unforeseen consequences ...
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> crocket, That is even farther from support and not advised.
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: just trying to findout whats happening mate
[03:36] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, ye
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: all guides show restart should work out of the box
[03:36] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: I am not using Unity. Software Center is the only one that comes up.
[03:36] <junkanoo> y
[03:36] <crocket> I probably should install lucid on a VM.
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, Also knwn as software sources in some releases say 12.04
[03:37] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, gonna try apt-get remove then reinstall???
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !info vsftpd | junkanoo
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: if you installed to this latest, i think your good to go
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, You can get there from the software center hit edit-ssoftware sources
[03:38] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: k
[03:38] <junkanoo> it's 3.0.2 yep
[03:38] <junkanoo> remove install didn't work
[03:38] <junkanoo> still no init scripts?
[03:39] <junkanoo> installed as root
[03:39] <junkanoo> apt-get install vsftpd
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, when there  first tab download from
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: how about here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/93700/service-vsftpd-restart-not-working
[03:39] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: That's not a tab.
[03:39] <R0b0t1> "Ubuntu Software" "Other Software" "Updates" "Authentication" "Statistics"
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, IN the first tab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:39] <R0b0t1> oh
[03:39] <R0b0t1> oh right sorry
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> bgeez
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> us
[03:40] <Sarseo> When I install Ubuntu, will I be able to "safely" repartition my windows partition without destroying the existing data?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: did you sudo service restart?
[03:40] <sabgenton> If  have a really damaged ntfs partions is it safe to mount it read only ?  will ntfs3g  not touch anything  if mounts / fails to mount
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, That is my only option so beyond this you're on your own. ;)
[03:40] <sabgenton> same question for ext4
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> sabgenton: would you like to recover data on it?
[03:41] <sabgenton> yeaah
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | sabgenton
[03:41] <sabgenton> but it is probably impossible
[03:41] <junkanoo> service vsftpd start -> vsftpd start/pre-start, process 7181
[03:41] <sabgenton> yeah
[03:41] <junkanoo> but ps -aux | grep vsftpd yields nothing
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> sabgenton: after install, sudo photorec to recover stuff from entire hd
[03:42] <sabgenton> lotuspsychje: but is it  safe to mount read only I want to see if its possable before trying test disk?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> sabgenton: i dont think a mount can damage things?
[03:43] <sisterFister> hey were can i get a tar.xz of the sputnik kernel?
[03:43] <sabgenton> lotuspsychje: but can a ro mount   in any way write to the fs?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: how about computer reboot? or add it to startup items?
[03:43] <sisterFister> here*
[03:43] <sisterFister> where*
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> sabgenton: i would try testdisk first, see what it does
[03:44] <sabgenton> but testdisk will ulter stuff
[03:44] <sabgenton> :(
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> sabgenton: ulter?
[03:45] <Jordan_U> sabgenton: Even an ro mount of ext3/4 will replay the journal.
[03:45] <sabgenton> alter
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | sisterFister
[03:45] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, yeah gonna try reboot
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: good luck
[03:45] <junkanoo> if not I may be moving to proftp :)
[03:45] <sabgenton> Jordan_U: ok as  in alter the journal
[03:46] <Jordan_U> sabgenton: If you're concerned about that you can use losetup to make a read only copy of the block device.
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: vsftpd seems like nice and secure, not sure why it doesnt restart
[03:46] <sisterFister> lotuspsychje: thanks. I do need to compile it on my own though.
[03:46] <sisterFister> I have no internet connection so can't just apt-get it
[03:46] <sabgenton> Jordan_U: oo ok sweet will do
[03:47] <junkanoo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/453784/vsftpd-installation-not-working-as-of-14-04
[03:47] <junkanoo> 14.04
[03:47] <junkanoo> sob
[03:47] <Jordan_U> sabgenton: sudo losetup -r /dev/loopN /dev/sdXY
[03:48] <sabgenton> sweet so that's fairly infallible ?
[03:48] <junkanoo> recommends service vsftpd {start|stop|status|restart} --system
[03:48] <junkanoo> will try when it comes back up
[03:49] <Jordan_U> sabgenton: The only faults would be in hardware, reads can damage a failing drive, or wetware, you make a typo :)
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | junkanoo
[03:49] <sabgenton> Jordan_U: I always assumed that was the same as an ro mount
[03:50] <Jordan_U> sabgenton: A reasonable assumption, but incorrect :)
[03:50] <sabgenton> Jordan_U: I'm like never going to use ro again  (on dogey things)  losetup -r for the win!
[03:51] <sabgenton> :)
[03:51] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, but shoudn't it be started upon reboot
[03:52] <junkanoo> again, i see nothing ps -aux | grep vsftpd
[03:52] <Tank> I was wondering if anyone would know if dsniff would be a good program to use to keep an eye on your kids online. I use linux on my own pc and they have there own windows laptops
[03:52] <junkanoo> lotuspsychje, realize it may use upstart (in lieu of init) to start etc, but it doesn't seem to want to start on boot or otherwise
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> Tank: i think there are few parental control packages in software centre
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: not sure mate sorry
[03:53] <junkanoo> service vsftpd status --system -> vsftpd stop/waiting
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> junkanoo: did you 'sudo' service vsftpd...
[03:54] <junkanoo> y i'm root
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> kk
[03:54] <Tank> Would the work with them having windows on there computers. See the problem is that one I don't know as much about computers as my oldest kid and he keeps finding and removing anything I install in there computers
[03:55] <sabgenton> Jordan_U: great piles of crap  it actually survived  the system shutting down on gparted!!
[03:55] <sabgenton>  mount ro didn't even complain
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Tank: it all depends what you wanna be doing...if you wanna know keystrokes just for behaviour, keylogger might help you
[03:55] <sabgenton> so mabey gparted go to the end
[03:55] <sabgenton> strange
[03:56] <sabgenton> no wait it hasn't resized the partion  even  stranger
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> I don;t think spying of any form is a direct support issue
[03:56] <sabgenton> ok errors comming ...
[03:57] <sabgenton> ls: cannot access /mnt/corupt/RubyStack-3.2.7-0.7z: Input/output error
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: arent there legit keyloggers as for admin on ubuntu?
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> that give me the wilee-nilee's to be honest
[03:57] <sabgenton> unless thats   the readonly ness, doubts
[03:58] <Tank> Lotuspsychje to be honest with you I just want to make sure they stay safe online and I would like to know if they are talking to someone and about what. Not trying to evade there private conversations or anything but there are some crazy people out there you know
[03:58] <GazzaBazza> what is a good site to read about linux security for users new to linux?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Tank: safety can be achieved with browsing on ubuntu and tighten your security
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !security | GazzaBazza
[03:58] <io__> which tools/softwares are more than few years old (4~10 years) & still you are using.
[03:59] <junkanoo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/457248/vsftpd-not-working
[03:59] <junkanoo> seems to be 14.04 specific
[03:59] <junkanoo> proftp here i come
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, And there are wifi crackers  but we don;t give actual support, honestly we don;t know what the person is really doing. I would touch that with a ten foot pole myself
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> would not*
[03:59] <sabgenton> lotuspsychje: Jordan_U: the fact it's mounted at all is a miracle
[03:59] <Tank> Lotuspsychje do you think that adding to would be a good practice or would that make things harder in me to keep an eye on them
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> !info logkeys | wilee-nilee
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> you don't understand but whatever'
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: if the package is official, we can support it right
[04:03] <tabasco> does anyone here know how to fix the `libGL error: unable to load swrast` problem? Google shows others having it too, but I havent found any good solutions
[04:04] <GazzaBazza> what does lib stand fdor?
[04:05] <GazzaBazza> *for
[04:05] <tabasco> probably lib as in library
[04:15] <NeedNetworkHelp> How can there be data packets transmitted with no clients associated to an AP?
[04:20] <akumor> exit
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> NeedNetworkHelp: maybe the ##networking guys might help you?
[04:21] <NeedNetworkHelp> Yea I tried. Everything is dead =/
[04:21] <NeedNetworkHelp> I even tried #wireshark
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> NeedNetworkHelp: we can support ubuntu issues only here mate
[04:22] <NeedNetworkHelp> Yea, I understand. Can't hurt to try =)
[04:29] <xeno> I'm afraid the terrorist doused my attempts to get answer for my question.  Please allow me therefore to ask again:
[04:29] <xeno> Say, is there a shell facility, commonly used, that can take a directory tree content signature/hash/checksum that is independent of dates affected by things like touch?
[04:29] <xeno> I could just take an md5sum of a file listing files with their md5sums, but if there is an existing facility, I'd prefer to use that.
[04:39] <io__> could it be possible any other nice concept instead of dividing people in channels in irc?
[04:40] <babinlonston> will dell XPS 15 laptop support Ubuntu 14.04 ? Im trying several times and cant install shows some squasfs error some time and showing some initrfs file not found , but i have installled with same DVD in Desktop now and its working fine
[04:42] <Sarseo> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <Sarseo> None of the steps in this article show how to set the root password
[04:42] <Sarseo> Isn't that kind of important in Linux?
[04:43] <dfit> hi i have a 12.04 machine and since 2 days ago the internet has been very slow.  I am connected wired and the other machines on the same LAN have normal internet speeds.  Am I hacked or something recently that is effecting linux machines.  I have used this 12.04 install for over a year with no problems.
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> dfit, Have you done a how fast is my connection test?
[04:45] <dfit> yes bandwidthplace.com
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> dfit, And it says?
[04:46] <dfit> much lower speeds than the other machines
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> !root | Sarseo
[04:46] <dfit> very slow loading sites…. i am using opendns BTW
[04:46] <Sarseo> lotuspsychje, thanks
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> dfit, Ah, so not system wide. I have noticed a slow open on occasion myself on occasion, beyond my help I think. ;)
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> dfit, I'm using opendns I bet it's them, lets get'em. ;)
[04:50] <dfit> ha
[04:53] <dfit> can you maybe tell me where i should look to see if my system is compromised ?
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> dfit, No really, if you think it is your best loading the backup/clone
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Not*
[04:55] <dfit> only thing happen since a recent update that forgot about is  system error on /usr/bin/aptd
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> I doubt that is the issue, but it is possible through a user not just following basic security.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> root needs a password to start with
[04:56] <dfit> im pretty good about that
[04:57] <dfit> probably better than most
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> dfit, Myself I run my browser to clean everything out when I close except passwords, it may be as simple as that.
[05:00] <dfit> i have many extensions plus i clear mine as well plus use bleechbit
[05:00] <dfit> i mean many extensions for clearing out data
[05:00] <TorUser81745> What gui environments are included in 10.04?
[05:00] <dfit> wellll… crap...
[05:00] <dfit> thanks for the chat...
[05:01] <TorUser81745> I don't like that unity crap
[05:01] <TorUser81745> Is there something else?
[05:01] <Logan_> TorUser81745: everyone has his or her own preferences, so please don't denigrate something that other people may like
[05:02] <TorUser81745> I just like options
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> TorUser81745, About 50 desktop you could run, take you pick, we are support not polling.
[05:02] <Logan_> you always have options in Ubuntu
[05:02] <TorUser81745> Is unity all that's available?
[05:03] <Logan_> as wilee-nilee just said, there are a ton of choices
[05:04] <TorUser81745> Does it give you options when you boot the disk?
[05:04] <TorUser81745> ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:04] <Logan_> if you want a specific environment, such as XFCE, LXDE, or KDE, you can download Xubuntu, Lubuntu, or Kubuntu, respectively
[05:04] <Logan_> !flavors | TorUser81745
[05:05] <Logan_> however, no matter which flavor you choose (including the default Unity one), you always have the ability to switch environments by installing packages
[05:05] <Logan_> !pm | _1_Devon23
[05:06] <TorUser81745> Does ubuntu have updated software packages
[05:06] <TorUser81745> It seems on my current distro I have to compile from source to get the latest version
[05:06] <Logan_> if you want the bleeding-edge, latest versions of packages, then you can use PPAs or a rolling-release distro
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> _1_Devon23, PircBot 1.5.0 Java IRC Bot - www.jibble.org
[05:06] <Logan_> TorUser81745: Ubuntu focuses on the stability of its releases
[05:07] <TorUser81745> Not bleeding-edge if you're talking about beta software
[05:07] <TorUser81745> I'm just talking about the latest supported versions
[05:07] <Logan_> right - you're not necessarily going to get that in the latest supported Ubuntu release
[05:07] <Logan_> you're going to get *stable* software, though
[05:08] <TorUser81745> bug-free, exploit-free
[05:08] <TorUser81745> that kind of stuff
[05:08] <JordanJ2> Logan_, what would be a example of a bleeding edge distro?
[05:08] <Logan_> Arch? compile your own stuff?
[05:08] <_1_Devon23> I'm one of those guys who will stare at it to it does what I want
[05:10] <TorUser81745> 10.04 is the version to go with if I want to run in production?
[05:10] <Logan_> production server?
[05:10] <TorUser81745> yes
[05:10] <gareim> TorUser8174 why not 12.04?
[05:10] <Logan_> I'd recommend 12.04 LTS
[05:10] <TorUser81745> tor relay, hidden server, etc
[05:10] <Logan_> 12.04 has newer versions of stuff, and it's time tested
[05:11] <Logan_> I wouldn't use 14.04 on a production server until the first point release is out
[05:11] <Logan_> and 10.04 is old
[05:11] <TorUser81745> Oh
[05:11] <Logan_> 10.04 server will only be supported until April 2015
[05:11] <TorUser81745> I thought it had 5 years of support
[05:11] <Logan_> well, yeah, you'll get less than a year of support on it :P
[05:11] <TorUser81745> oh ok
[05:19] <agrajag42> hi all, looking for recommendations for a super basic text based mail client that will read emails generated in /var/mail/<username>
[05:21] <makelove3345> where to downloda a iso file of ubuntu?
[05:21] <Logan_> agrajag42: mutt
[05:21] <agrajag42> Logan_: thx!
[05:21] <Logan_> makelove3345: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:21] <Logan_> agrajag42: no problem :)
[05:31] <bonez2046> I made the mistake of upgrading to 14.x tonight and now I just a black  gui...hhow can I  get graphics?
[05:31] <makelove3345> reinstall
[05:32] <bonez2046> II don't have my install disk...
[05:32] <bonez2046> can  I kill   gdm and remove gnome and  just reinstall  gnome?
[05:32] <bonez2046> would that change anything?
[05:33] <Ben64> you probably wouldn't want to do that
[05:33] <bonez2046> ok
[05:33] <Ben64> try logging in as a guest user
[05:33] <bonez2046> there's no login dialogue when the box  boots up
[05:34] <bonez2046> just a quick flash of the bios messages and thennn black screen with  the   pointer
[05:34] <Ben64> give some details about the system, hardware specs, what version of ubuntu to what version
[05:35] <bonez2046> I had     12.10  onn this  box. I was    updating  everything and foolishly jumped at the offer to upgrade to 14.x (whatever the new  version number)
[05:35] <bonez2046> it's a box I built
[05:35] <bonez2046> built about 5  years ago
[05:36] <Ben64> 12.10 does not upgrade to 14.04
[05:36] <bonez2046> maaybe I had 13.x  on here.....
[05:36] <bonez2046> I don't know
[05:36] <bonez2046> it  prompted to upgrade to 14
[05:36] <bonez2046> and I ran with it
[05:37] <bonez2046> big mistake
[05:37] <Ben64> you should learn the version numbers. there is no 14, there is a 14.04 and there will be a 14.10. 13.10 can upgrade to 14.04
[05:37] <bonez2046> 14.04
[05:37] <bonez2046> ok,,  that's the  version to which I upgraded
[05:37] <makelove3345> did you use gnome rather than unity?
[05:38] <Ben64> ok, hardware specs?
[05:38] <bonez2046> right I was  running 13.10
[05:38] <bonez2046> amd  64 chipset 340 gb hdd
[05:39] <bonez2046> I don't know the cpu right off...it is a box my son built a couple years ago
[05:39] <bonez2046> it any of this helpful?
[05:40] <mdunc> bonez2046: what video card?
[05:40] <Ben64> not so much. video card could be helpful
[05:41] <bonez2046> it's the mobo  video, radeon I believe
[05:41] <mdunc> bonez2046: when your comptuer boots, you see a mouse pointer?
[05:42] <bonez2046> yes, I get a mooouse pointer
[05:42] <bonez2046> the mobo is k8ngm2
[05:43] <makelove3345> ctrl+alt+f2,then reinstall gnome
[05:43] <mdunc> bonez2046: did you have your computer set to auto login?
[05:44] <bonez2046> I always have it set to require a pwd
[05:45] <makelove3345> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[05:46] <bonez2046> already have newest  version and it   iis set to manual install
[05:46] <mdunc> bonez2046: press ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to a terminal and log in.  once in, type ‘sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log’ and look for any errors.
[05:47] <mdunc> bonez2046: try /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log too
[05:47] <mdunc> if it exists
[05:48] <bonez2046> mdunc: I get lots of output from the cat /var... command
[05:48] <mdunc> bonez2046: yeah, it’ll spit out the entire contents of that file.  just look through probably near the bottom of it for any sort of errors
[05:49] <bonez2046> plenty oooutpput from x-0 too
[05:49] <gr33n7007h> Can anyone help me get my bluetooth working, It's not detecting it?
[05:50] <bonez2046> terminated with signal 15
[05:50] <bonez2046> I see that error near bottom
[05:51] <mdunc> bonez2046: try this `sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm`
[05:51] <mdunc> bonez2046: then `service lightdm restart`
[05:51] <mdunc> er, `sudo service lightdm restart`
[05:52] <manish_> hi
[05:54] <makelove3345> unity is diffult to use ,cinnamonn is better
[05:54] <manish_> all hail i3
[05:54] <bonez2046> mdunc: now just a blinking cursor  left upper corner
[05:54] <mdunc> bonez2046: ok, then just restart the whole computer
[05:55] <bonez2046> ok
[05:56] <mdunc> oh, he left.  i was just about to tell him i have a meeting in 5 minutes…
[05:57] <makelove3345> he reboot his box
[05:57] <mdunc> yeah, i thought he might have been on a different machine
[05:57] <mdunc> bonez2046: welcome back.  any luck?
[05:57] <bonez2046> mdunc: yes, that worked....I gotta know how that solved it
[05:57] <mdunc> bonez2046: sweet!
[05:58] <mdunc> bonez2046: dpkg-reconfigure re-runs the configuration scripts in a package.  lightdm is what is displayed on the login screen.
[05:58] <mdunc> bonez2046: something was wrong with it.  Xorg was fine since you got a mouse cursor so that meant it had to be lightdm.
[05:59] <bonez2046> mdunc: thanks a bunch...do you know how I can get screen resolution other than 1024/768?
[05:59] <bonez2046> I'd like it much higher
[05:59] <bonez2046> but I will settle for this for the time being
[06:00] <mdunc> bonez2046: search for the restricted driver installer (if you use unity just search “driver” and it should show up).  let it detect your video card and install the correct drivers.
[06:00] <mdunc> bonez2046: or search for “monitor” or “display”.  you might be able to bump up your resolution in there.
[06:01] <mdunc> bonez2046: but you’ll definitely want to make sure you have the restricted drivers installed for best performance
[06:01] <bonez2046> I have gnome running,not unity
[06:01] <mdunc> bonez2046: ah, well similar process.
[06:01] <bonez2046> can I run apt-cache search restricted drivers? to find them?
[06:02] <mdunc> bonez2046: run ‘jocky’.  it will detect the correct driver to install.
[06:02] <Arn> I'm trying to read old 720k floppies (pc/mac formatted) using a USB floppy drive on Ubuntu 14 (freshly updated) but I'm getting "can't read superblock" errors... I know the disks probably work though, because all of my older ones did (late 80's)
[06:03] <bonez2046> is 'jocky' an applet I can install?
[06:03] <mdunc> bonez2046: but the radeon restricted driver is called fglrx if you want to search for it manually.  careful though.
[06:03] <mdunc> bonez2046: try apt-get install jocky if you don’t have it
[06:03] <mdunc> bonez2046: er, ‘jockey’, not ‘jocky’
[06:03] <bonez2046> mdunc: I tried apt-get install jocky, nothing, or with apt-cache search jocky
[06:03] <mdunc> ok, got a meeting.  good luck!
[06:04] <Arn> Anyways, I tried sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/arne/disk bt that mountpoint doesn't exist, how do I know my mount point?
[06:07] <makelove3345> lsblk -f
[06:10] <Arn> Thanks! Though I don't see sdb there at all... maybe because the drive failed to mount
[06:12] <avery_> Hey
[06:15] <thecha> is there a way to shut down ubuntu but have ubuntu remember your workspace and whats in it?
[06:15] <thecha> so when you start it up again it starts whatever was active ?
[06:16] <avery_> thecha: As in something like windows Hibernate?
[06:16] <thecha> NO!
[06:17] <thecha> i meant sort of like in firefox  remembering your last session
[06:17] <thecha> like it completely shutting off as in pulling the plug and then
[06:17] <harmonics> Hi avery_ remember me?
[06:17] <thecha> then coming back to life exactly how you left it
[06:17] <Matthew_Moore> Question.  in 14.04  there are some apps that wont fully function without ffmpeg. audacity, simplescreenrecorder,  formatjunkie, kdenlive, ect.  is there i way to get the libav fork to work with these applications or do i just need to install  ffmpeg from the PPA??
[06:17] <avery_> thecha: That sounds like a suspend operation. All your programs would run exactly how they were when you suspended
[06:18] <avery_> harmonics: Can't say that I do, sorry. Should I? ._.
[06:18] <thecha> suspend operation is what i type in to comnad line interface?
[06:18] <thecha> cli
[06:19] <avery_> thecha: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line
[06:19] <harmonics> avery_: yes when the moment is perfect
[06:19] <thecha> thank you avery
[06:19] <avery_> thecha: That should help you
[06:19] <thecha> but it is not sudo halt right?
[06:19] <vilambit> nope
[06:19] <vilambit> that's to shutdown
[06:19] <thecha> this is hybernate
[06:19] <thecha> this is not what i was looking for
[06:19] <avery_> thecha: I'm not sure. That page should tell you everything you need to know
[06:20] <thecha> i was looking for a way to shut down not hybernate while retaining sessions
[06:22] <harmonics> there is a problem running resize using gparted on a partition
[06:22] <avery_> thecha: In ubuntu, 'hybernating' is called suspending. It is a complete shutdown, but it saves all your open programs, documents, etc to whats called swap.
[06:23] <avery_> thecha: When you turn on your computer again, it opens all the programs again, right ack to where you left off
[06:23] <avery_> harmonics: What is the error?
[06:24] <harmonics> avery_: it is showing a message to run e2fsck first right after it runs e2fsck
[06:25] <avery_> harmonics: Are you running Gparted on a livecd? Is the harddrive that you are trying to work on mounted or in use?
[06:26] <harmonics> avery_: a live cd is used and the partitions are not mounted
[06:27] <avery_> harmonics: Unfortunately I can't help then. You could try a reinstall of GParted, but I've never had problems with it before on a livecd
[06:28] <harmonics> avery_: the software seems to have fluxed
[06:31] <xeno> This appears to work:  find www -type f -exec md5sum {} + | awk '{print $1}' | sort | md5sum
[06:33] <mojtaba> Hi, I have configured openvpn server. Could you please tell me which files should I copy in the client side?
[06:34] <mojtaba> Also I am trying to connect to the vpn, but it gives me timeout. Do you know what should I do?
[06:35] <geyug>  i HAVE  A STOMACK ACHE . I THINK  I ATE SOMETHING EXPIRED AT DINNER . AND I AM ALONE AT HOME . THE PHARMACY IS CLOSED IN MY NEIGBERHOOD AT THE MOMENT  CAUSE IT'S NIGHT . PLEASE TELL ME WHAT SHOULD I DO TO  DECREASE THE PAIN .AND I AM IN PAIN RIGHT NOW . I DIDNT EXPERIENCE THIS PAIN SINCE I WAS 11 . PLEASE I AM  AWAY OF MY FAMILY AND I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO . HELPPPPPPPPP!!
[06:37] <geyug> help me
[06:38] <oxycotton> geyug: if you think you ate something expired, the worst that will happen is that you'll just throw up a lot
[06:39] <geyug> I didn't throw up yet , I just feel pain , is there any think will help me to throw up , sorry for that
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> geyug, Seek professional help. This is about as offtopic as it gets.
[06:41] <oxycotton> geyug: Don't be scared. Just stay in the bathroom and try to make yourself throw up if it feels like you want to.
[06:46] <harmonics> Is it possible to add an url to an iptables rule using something like --dst url.net ?
[06:54] <harmonics> I like that new addition.
[06:55] <Sarseo> Is there a way to disable the password prompt that appears every time I want to install software on my system?
[06:56] <Corvette> I just finished my PC renovations. New mobo, a lot of other new stuff. Now Ubuntu doesn't recognize the NIC. What do you do
[06:56] <Sarseo> Also please don't say I shouldn't.
[06:57] <Corvette> I doubt there's a way to do that Sarseo, that's your superuser password prompt. Making changes requires superuser permissions and will prompt you on any Linux or Mac
[06:57] <bazhang> Sarseo, sudo -i for a root shell
[06:57] <gr33n7007h> Sarseo, replace %sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL with %sudo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL    visudo
[06:58] <Corvette> Wow, so that grants you permanent superuser?
[06:59] <Sarseo> gr33n7007h, that's what I might have to do... but...
[06:59] <Sarseo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1337564
[06:59] <Sarseo> I made changes according to the 2nd post in this link
[06:59] <Sarseo> From reading, it sounds like it would basically grant superuser permissions for updates and installs (which is all I want)
[07:00] <Sarseo> But it's working
[07:00] <Sarseo> If I can't get this to work, then I'll have to go with what you suggested gr33n7007h
[07:00] <gr33n7007h> Sarseo, That's your choice like bazhang said just use sudo -i
[07:01] <Sarseo> I need this to work with the GUI
[07:01] <gr33n7007h> not to sure
[07:02] <bazhang> Sarseo, so use sudo -i
[07:03] <Sarseo> I guess that works.  But will it continue to work on startup?
[07:04] <Radon_3> goodmorning everyone, I have downloaded a .zip file from the Internet, and the files in it have absolutely loooong file names, and when I try extracting them or even renaming them to something more settle, I get the path too long error, any idea how I can get the files out of the archive?
[07:04] <bazhang> Sarseo, once you quit and restart? or logout and back in? no
[07:06] <Sarseo> :\
[07:07] <Radon_3> anyone?
[07:07] <Radon_3> ;(
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Radon_3: Please be patient. I was typing a response already.
[07:08] <anudas> Radon_3: hi
[07:08] <Radon_3> I don't know why the creator of this file used such looooong file names anyways, it could have been something easier. ;((((
[07:08] <Radon_3> anudas: hi
[07:08] <anudas> Radon_3: do you extract it on ext3 ?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Radon_3: What command are you using to extract the files? What is the destination filesystem?
[07:09] <Radon_3> I use the good old archive manager and I am using the default ext4 file system
[07:09] <anudas> Radon_3: how longfilename file look like?
[07:10] <Radon_3> this long: a folder named "Wake 'em Up! How to Use Humor & Other Professional Techniques to Create Alarmingly Good Business Presentations - Thomas Antion - Epub+Mobi - Yeal" and then a file named "Wake 'em Up! How to Use Humor & Other Professional Techniques to Create Alarmingly.epub"
[07:11] <anudas> Radon_3: it is maybe joke :-)
[07:11] <Radon_3> it is way too long, even for windows I guess
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Radon_3: Please try "gunzip /path/to/file.zip" and pastebin the output (if any).
[07:12] <Radon_3> anudas: I am n ot sure cause many people are seeding asnd leeching it already
[07:12] <Radon_3> Jordan_U: ok
[07:12] <Kovica> I have two monitors (one touchscreen and one regular). I've used xrandr to set regular screen right of touch screen, so extended display. Now ubuntu things the entire extended desktop is touch. How can I solve this problem ?
[07:12] <anudas> Radon_3: or, try it extract directly to the short different name of file with the same epub
[07:13] <somsip> !illegal | Radon_3 (the examle you gave is a copyright file, and you've stated you've downloaded them from a torrent site)
[07:16] <Radon_3> somsip: I did not klnow that, terribly sorry! bye.
[07:16] <mojtaba> Hi, I have configured openvpn server and I am trying to connect to it, but I get time out error. Do you know how can I check the log?
[07:17] <Pr0jectRec0n> I'm on 3.13.0-24-generic, when I try to grab the linux-headers-generic (using apt on *buntu), I get the prompts to get these : "linux-headers-3.2.0-63 linux-headers-3.2.0-63-generic linux-headers-generic" - why would it grab the 3.2.x headers for a 3.13.x kernel?
[07:18] <Pr0jectRec0n> The only ever kernels that machine has seen are 3.11.x and 3.13.x
[07:19] <Sarseo> Is there a way to get rid of the mac-inspired theme in Ubuntu?
[07:19] <Sarseo> And make it more like... ... Windows?
[07:20] <edenist> Sarseo, if you want something whick looks more like windows, look up 'Cinnamon'
[07:20] <edenist> that being said, I would recommend that you spend some time getting used to how ubuntu works
[07:21] <edenist> the work flow is different, yes, but once you get used to it I feel like it is much easier to use
[07:21] <Pr0jectRec0n> I just wanted to come here and ask you guys if that signifies that it could be an issue with the pkg mgr or if it was normal
[07:22] <edenist> Pr0jectRec0n, that doesn't look like normal behaviour
[07:23] <Sarseo> edenist, I spent several weeks on a macbook... It's... not for me.  I'm sure people love it, but the menu bar at the top instead of in window context, and the icons with very little clarity to individual windows...
[07:23] <Sarseo> It's just not practical for me
[07:23] <edenist> thats fine, go with what you prefer ;-)
[07:23] <edenist> just see a lot of people dismiss things purely because they are different :p haha
[07:24] <Sarseo> I totally get that.  But adapting to this theme isn't worth my time.
[07:25] <Sarseo> Unless I can configure ... a lot of it.
[07:25] <Sarseo> Like removing the line between my screens that somehow halts my mouse from moving between them...
[07:25] <Sarseo> And removing the 2nd app bar
[07:25] <Sarseo> Splitting the individual app buttons up into their own window contexts.
[07:25] <Sarseo> Then... Maybe I could get used to the menu bar being at the top of the screen (which just doesn't make sense to me)
[07:26] <DJones> Sarseo: To stop the "sticky edges" between two screens, this link should sort that probvlem out http://askubuntu.com/questions/109338/how-do-i-disable-mouse-magnet-on-middle-edge-with-multi-monitors
[07:26] <Radon_3> I am not here for anything illigal here, but to let you all know that I used an online archive extractor and the problem is solved now, thank you all good folks anyways.
[07:26] <Radon_3> http://b1.org/online
[07:27] <edenist> yeah fair enough. I'm using gnome-shell myself, so I don't really have a menu bar at all [that I use]
[07:27] <someHuman> Hi!
[07:27] <someHuman> Can someone help me setup dual boot menu with already installed Ubuntu and Windows?
[07:31] <Pr0jectRec0n> ok, I'm on elementaryOS luna - which is ubuntu-like, based on ubntu 12.04 etc etc. - however I'm bored with it. I want to go ubuntugnome 14.04 - Now this is on a 120GB SSD- Is there a way I can retain setting for certain apps I've made on that OS once I jump ship to ubuntu - so that I wouldn't need to do 'em over n over?
[07:31] <Pr0jectRec0n> seeing as it is all ubuntu-base
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> Pr0jectRec0n, That is like asking if I mix port and white wine do I have a merlot
[07:33] <mojtaba> Hi, I have followed all this tutorial and I am trying to connect to my pi via ubuntu. But I get connection timed out error. Any help is highly appreciated. http://readwrite.com/2014/04/10/raspberry-pi-vpn-tutorial-server-secure-web-browsing#awesm=~oFHQP63smB59uG
[07:33] <Pr0jectRec0n> wilee-nilee, lol I understand - but I don't want to spend `5hrs setting up my htpc
[07:33] <Pr0jectRec0n> *~5hrs
[07:39] <gdshen> helllo
[07:41] <Sarseo> I keep getting system errors every time I log into ubuntu
[07:42] <humbag> Pr0jectRec0n: you can separate your home directory and share it between ubuntu and eos but results are unpredictable
[07:42] <vilambit> Sarseo: google "ubuntu disable apport"
[07:42] <Sarseo> c
[07:44] <amagee> hey i just upgraded my vps from ubuntu 12.04 (i think) to 13.10. Now when I log in I get a message saying "-bash: /dev/null: Permission denied" about 25 times
[07:46] <mdunc> amagee: try ‘sudo chmod 666 /dev/null’
[07:47] <Pr0jectRec0n> okay, KDE user here - I'm trying ubuntugnome 14.04 iwith a liveUSB. Is it just me - or do the default font-size in gnome look so big and ugly?
[07:47] <amagee> mdunc: heh, that was so easy i didn't think of it :P thanks, it seems to have worked
[07:47] <mdunc> amagee: cool!  glad to hear it! :D
[07:48] <ADW> You are a troll
[07:49] <mdunc> Pr0jectRec0n: yeah, on some monitors the fonts can look a little big.  Check the Appearance settings.  There should be a scaling slider in there somewhere (i’m going off memory right now)
[07:51] <BlackCobra> ome
[07:51] <Sarseo> dumb question but... where are my apps installed?
[07:52] <BlackCobra> Sorry wrong window
[07:52] <mdunc> Sarseo: most executables end up in /usr/bin.  That just executables/binaries though.  Other parts of an application can be scattered around.
[07:53] <Joe_DM_Away> Hi All, How are we today?
[07:53] <floryn90> hi everyone
[07:53] <mdunc> Sarseo: You can type `which [command]` and it will show you where the executable is at.  `whereis [command]` works too.
[07:54] <floryn90> i have an error with ata5
[07:54] <floryn90> This is the error from syslog => May 30 08:57:36 NoteBook-PC kernel: [   39.433935] ata5.00: irq_stat 0x08000000, interface fatal error
[07:56] <mdunc> Sarseo: If you want to see the location of every file for an application you have installed, type `dpkg-query -L [package name]`.  For example `dpkg-query -L nautilus`
[08:02] <nbros652> I have an encrypted file container that I want to conditionally mount at boot time. This is not working for me from root's crontab. fstab won't work because I need it to be conditional based on whether the encryption key is available or not. Any ideas?
[08:04] <nbros652> I'm using luks.
[08:08] <Sarseo> Alright, I have steam installed, but I want to put my installed games on a seperate device.  I have my 320 GB hdd available to me with nothing on it, and it's formatted as ext4.
[08:09] <Sarseo> What's the best way to set it up for data?  Do I mount it under /media or something?
[08:09] <godmachine81> what happened to these guys: madpilot, gnomefreak, dennisK ?
[08:09] <godmachine81> new names?
[08:10] <wigirc> Sarseo, make dir in media hdd0 and write fstab
[08:10] <Sarseo> eh?
[08:11] <wigirc> Sarseo, sudo mkdir /media/hdd0
[08:11] <wigirc> Sarseo, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:11] <godmachine81> really?
[08:12] <godmachine81> ubuntu still using cmd line tools for mounting media?  i thought it automated this BS
[08:13] <msev> i'm trying to rebuild libchamplain and i'm getting this error: No rule to make target `Champlain-0.12.gir', needed by `champlain-0.12.vapi'
[08:13] <wigirc> godmachine81, as you wish ;)
[08:13] <godmachine81> you need champlain-gir installed
[08:13] <msev> thanks
[08:13] <msev> I'll try that
[08:14] <godmachine81> wigirc:: i don't particularly care wigirc,  i rather it be the old school way myself
[08:14] <godmachine81> not all this systemd, pulseaudio, udev, crap
[08:15] <Sarseo> wigirc,  I assume I put: UUID=e1966b8f-7a82-449d-9d63-ec7cbe32d977 /media/hdd0     ext4 or somethign in the fstab?
[08:15] <godmachine81> guess thats why i haven't lured too far away from slackware since 1995 eh?
[08:16] <wigirc> Sarseo, UUID="bla-bla" /media/hdd0 ext4 defaults 0 0
[08:16] <godmachine81> Sarseo:: do you really want it mounted at /media/hdd0?  why not name it something a little nicer?
[08:16] <Sarseo> godmachine81, that's what I was thinking
[08:17] <godmachine81> if i was manually mounting it somewhere i'd probably make it somewhere other than /media too
[08:17] <godmachine81> by manually i mean forcing it by the use of fstab
[08:17] <Sarseo> Well now I can't remove hdd0
[08:18] <Sarseo> nvm
[08:19] <Sarseo> k. So now that that file is made, now what do I do?
[08:19] <Sarseo> file is edited*
[08:20] <wigirc> Sarseo, sudo mount /media/hdd0 and you done
[08:20] <r00t_> hello world
[08:20] <godmachine81> Sarseo:: save the file and mount /media/hdd0
 you need champlain-gir installed ->but i have it installed...
[08:20] <godmachine81> msev:: right version?
[08:21] <godmachine81> 0.12 particularly
[08:21] <msev> yes
[08:21] <msev> gir1.2-champlain-0.12
[08:21] <godmachine81> you have the dev/lib files for it installed (i'm not a debian/ubuntu user, but i do know they use to split these into multiple files)
[08:22] <Sarseo> Hm... steam says the drive is read-only
[08:22] <godmachine81> when building files from source like you are you will need lib/devel files to build things that depend on its source sometimes
[08:22] <msev> yes godmachine
[08:23] <wigirc> Sarseo, sudo chmod a+w /media/hdd0
[08:23] <godmachine81> msev:: sorry but that line in the error denotes that the problem was finding the files for the pkg i mentioned.. why its not finding them if its installed is beyond me
[08:23] <dbugger> Hi guys. I am running into a hard problem with npm. Maybe someone could take a look at it, please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/474323/uninstalling-bower-installed-with-a-different-version-of-npm
[08:23] <godmachine81> wigirc:: is this a typical procedure for ubuntu users?
[08:24] <msev> thanks anyway
[08:24] <Sarseo> Seriously thought the ease-of-use of Ubuntu was better by now. -_-
[08:24] <wigirc> godmachine81, it's one of variants
[08:24] <Sarseo> Everything I've done is all terminal
[08:24] <godmachine81> Sarseo:: i think its just the highlights and the bling they want you to get abducted by
[08:25] <godmachine81> after that its back to the primitive
[08:25] <godmachine81> its all still linux
[08:25] <godmachine81> won't be long until ubuntu has its own kernel and you can call it just ubuntu
[08:25] <godmachine81> proprietary userland base tools
[08:27] <wigirc> Sarseo, you can use file manager for mounting, but fstab work in all distro not only ubuntu
[08:27] <dohzer> Anyone have Google Chrome installed in Ubuntu? It's weird, but for some reason the search bar highlights the best option in orange rather than blue like it does on my Windows PC.
[08:27] <Sarseo> godmachine81, yah... :\
[08:27] <harmonics> What package includes a dvd burner that checks the hashsums for integrity without adding extra padding or crypro to the burn?
[08:28] <Sarseo> Ubuntu seemed to advertise a much more user-friendly experience and... I'm not seeing it
[08:28] <godmachine81> too many pkgs that are binary deps
[08:28] <harmonics> dohzer: Windows XP?
[08:29] <godmachine81> too easily broken and lacks ability to modify easily
[08:29] <Sarseo> It's a shame, cuz part of the reason I wanted to dive into this "was" to get away from Windows...
[08:29] <godmachine81> keep it stupid simple... remember that?
[08:30] <harmonics> kooshy
[08:31] <cfhowlett> harmonics  don't know of any burners that will do that for you as the assumption is that a responsible user will hashsum from the command line.  easy peasy.
[08:31] <Sarseo> These password prompts, limited GUI tweaking, mac-inspired themes, setting a place to put data... I mean, this is just like it was 6 years ago.  It's actually making reconsider Windows 8. :\
[08:31] <mdunc> Sarseo: there probably is a gui way to do what you’re trying to do.  it’s just a whole lot easier for people to help by giving specific commands to type instead of telling you what to click on and trying to verify what you’re looking at every step of the way.
[08:31] <dalamar> hi all, I am new to Ubuntu (form osx — my terminology is probably a bit off) and struggling to configure my monitors (4 on 2 nvidia cards). I messed around with the config files and now the systems boots into black monitors. Any pointers as to how to get my xwindow/xserver back?
[08:31] <harmonics> cfhowlett: hashing the whole device is going to produce something different.
[08:32] <harmonics> I went through this before.
[08:32] <mdunc> Sarseo: if Windows 8 worked better for you, then by all means, go back to it.  It has password prompts and stuff for administrative actions as well though.
[08:32] <Sarseo> Yes, but at least I can turn it off
[08:32] <Sarseo> And keep it off
[08:33] <godmachine81> seriously
[08:33] <mdunc> Sarseo: you can do that on ubuntu too, but it’s incredibly dangerous to do on either system
[08:33] <godmachine81> you recommend someone go back to windows instead of using a different flavor of linux?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !flavor
[08:33] <godmachine81> thats flavors of ubuntu
[08:33] <Dmaurve> I deleted a random folder in /usr/local, is this bad?
[08:33] <mdunc> godmachine81: the problems he’s having with Ubuntu aren’t specific to Ubuntu.  If this distro isn’t working for him, I doubt any will.
[08:33] <godmachine81> flavors of linux would be equal to distro
[08:34] <cfhowlett> lubuntu is pretty close to the windows XP look and feel - xubuntu is also a close approximation
[08:34] <godmachine81> the problems he is having are pretty specific to anyone who has implemented all the new systemd and latest udev crap
[08:34] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve depends on the file.  it should still be in .trash so you can undelete it
[08:34] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: I pressed the del key in "sudo nautilus"
[08:35] <Sarseo> It's not incredibly dangerous on Windows at all.  Do you have any idea what UAC actually does?  All it does is create a separate session for your administrator account so that it can do things your user account can't normally do.  Unless someone has direct access to your PC, that's completely pointless.
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve use nautilius - display hidden folders and look in .trash
[08:35] <mdunc> Sarseo: Yes, I used to do windows administration full time.  I know what it does.  It’s dangerous.
[08:35] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: in /usr/local?
[08:36] <mdunc> Sarseo: or rather, it’s very bad security practice.
[08:36] <Sarseo> It's not.  In fact, it causes a buttload of problems in application development.
[08:36] <Sarseo> For a casual user, sure
[08:36] <Sarseo> For a technical user?  No.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve worst case: logout/login and the missing files should recreate.  *should*
[08:37] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: because there is no .trash in /usr/local when i press ctrl+h
[08:37] <godmachine81> running windows period is far worse than running linux as root
[08:37] <Sarseo> I beg to differ
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve ah, right .  it's not there it's in your /home
[08:38] <cfhowlett> godmachine81 Sarseo perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion??  thanks.
[08:38] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: my home or root's home?
[08:39] <jbermudes> Can anyone advise me what to do if my upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 seems to have gotten stuck due to some assertion fails in the step "Preparing to configure libxml-parser-perl" ?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve you shouldn't be in root ... see your /home for your hidden folders
[08:40] <migalis> part Ubuntu
[08:41] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: I see no hidden folders name .trash in my home
[08:41] <r00t_> i need android help
[08:42] <cfhowlett> r00t_ #android   or xdadevelopers.com
[08:42] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve go up one level
[08:43] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: nope
[08:43] <r00t_> ty i visited here cfhowlett. i have korean phone sky vega racer
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve I'm on xubuntu 12.04 so I don't know precisely where your trash might have gone
[08:44] <cfhowlett> !details|r00t_
[08:44] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: What folders SHOULD /usr/local have? (so i know what i deleted)
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !pastge
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !paste
[08:45] <r00t_> i upgraded my phone from official update but wifi broke after, iwant to install cm 10
[08:45] <someHuman> What does 'main partition' mean here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows
[08:45] <someHuman> I am talking about the first answer by the way.
[08:46] <wigirc> Dmaurve, it must be a "Trash" in the left side of nautilus
[08:46] <cfhowlett> r00t_ this is ubuntu support.  android is NOT supported here.  look in #android or on XDA developers
[08:46] <r00t_> ty
[08:46] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve http://imagebin.org/312208
[08:47] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: "This web page at imagebin.org has been reported as an attack page and has been blocked based on your security preferences."
[08:47] <karab44> hello
[08:47] <cfhowlett> Dmaurve you can ignore that - I got the same warning.  an attack site it ain't.
[08:48] <karab44> I have /dev/ubuntu-vg/swap_1 17GB partition but System Monitor shows that in Used Resources Memory is 3,6GiB which is 23% and Swap is not available. Why is that?
[08:49] <Dmaurve> cfhowlett: ok, I don't have a "share" folder
[08:50] <karab44> is my computer using swap partition or not?
[08:51] <wigirc> karab44, sudo swapon -s
[08:51] <TonyStark> hey
[08:51] <gr33n7007h> Dmaurve, have you got a ~/.local/share folder
[08:51] <karab44> wigirc: just empty rows
[08:51] <TonyStark> i need help about openvpn and vps
[08:52] <karab44> *columns
[08:52] <TonyStark> can we setup openvpn on any vps server??
[08:52] <Dmaurve> gr33n7007h: yes
[08:52] <wigirc> karab44, your swap is off
[08:52] <karab44> wigirc: shouldn't it be enabled by default? I used standard 14.04 installation process
[08:53] <karab44> I have automatically created /dev/ubuntu-vg/swap_1 partition
[08:53] <wigirc> karab44, it should, strange
[08:53] <karab44> but df -h doesn't show it's even available
[08:53] <gr33n7007h> Dmaurve, is trash not in there?
[08:54] <wigirc> karab44, you can check fstab for swap
[08:54] <Dmaurve> gr33n7007h: There's a folder name "Trash" with a capital T in that
[08:54] <wigirc> karab44, it must be there to auto mount on boot
[08:55] <karab44> I think I know what happened
[08:55] <gr33n7007h> cd .Trash
[08:55] <karab44> It's somehow related to disk encryption
[08:55] <karab44> I encrypted my .home
[08:56] <jbermudes> Will an Ubuntu CD let me resume an aborted upgrade?
[08:56] <karab44> I can't remember whole thing but I think installator warned me to create unencrypted swap when creating encryption
[08:56] <jbermudes> I'm in a weird state right now. apt-get -f install complains about too many unmet dependencies
[08:57] <karab44> dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[08:57] <karab44> dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0
[08:57] <karab44> these are from fstab
[08:58] <karab44> Good that I have 16GiGs of ram, otherwise I could expect unexpected system crash during out of memory
[08:59] <karab44> but I can't still understand why cryptswap is not mounted
[09:01] <karab44> wigirc: do you remember is swapon showing encrypted swaps as well?
[09:01] <Dmaurve> wigirc: without sudo?
[09:05] <wigirc> Dmaurve, maybe, try both
[09:06] <Dmaurve> wigirc: ok, I see the folder without sudo
[09:07] <wigirc> Dmaurve, right button and recover
[09:08] <Dmaurve> wigirc: Can't because i'm not sudo ._. | and trash gives an error if i do it with sudo
[09:09] <wigirc> karab44, swapon must show
[09:09] <wigirc> karab44, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/248158/how-do-i-setup-an-encrypted-swap-file
[09:10] <karab44> ok how to make sure /dev/ubuntu-vg/swap_1 is encrypted? I presume it's not...
[09:10] <Dmaurve> wigirc: would cut and paste from trash to something like my ~ home then going to sudo and cutting and pasting it back to /usr/local work?
[09:10] <karab44> but it's also not used but 17GB of space is allocated to that
[09:11] <wigirc> Dmaurve, not cut/past but copy/past i think you can
[09:11] <karab44> wigirc: yes, I found the same page but I don't understand current situation.
[09:12] <wigirc> karab44, can you show fstab?
[09:12] <karab44> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7550110/
[09:13] <Dmaurve> wigirc: http://screencloud.net/v/fQss
[09:15] <Dmaurve> wigirc: and pasting it with sudo doesn't work because sudo nautilus can't use trash http://screencloud.net/v/ACGh
[09:15] <trijntje> karab44: looks encrypted to me, since the device is /dev/mapper
[09:15] <karab44> dev/mapper does not contain cryptswap1
[09:16] <karab44> it contains only swap_1 17GB partition that is not mounted anyway
[09:17] <karab44> should I refer to the previous tutorial starting from removing swap and creating cryptswap1 ?
[09:17] <karab44> in other words recreating swap1 as cryptswap1
[09:18] <wigirc> Dmaurve, i mean copy it from trash to somewhere (for example your to your home dir) and paste it where you want
[09:18] <karab44> and why it haven't been done automagically :)
[09:18] <Dmaurve> wigirc: that's the error in the first screenshot
[09:19] <trijntje> karab44: why don't you make a swapfile in /, that way it will be encrypted
[09:19] <karab44> trijntje: I don't have whole disk encrypted, home folder only
[09:20] <karab44> It's because I want use it as remote station from time to time
[09:20] <trijntje> karab44: how did you install, root is also on /dev/mapper, doesn't that mean you have full disk encryption?
[09:20] <wigirc> Dmaurve, try paste via terminal like sudo cp -R source destination
[09:21] <wigirc> Dmaurve, and change owner to root sudo chown -R root:root destination
[09:21] <Dmaurve> wi copy from nautilus then paste with terminal?
[09:21] <Dmaurve> wigirc: copy from nautilus then paste with terminal?
[09:22] <wigirc> Dmaurve, yes
[09:22] <karab44> trijntje: I don't know it maybe unused. It may be because I moved back during installation and choosed different option from whole disk to home folder only. Old partitions could stay.
[09:23] <karab44> I don't know really... It's first time I use encryption and I wasn't careful enough installing system. That was in april so I can't remind more details.
[09:23] <trijntje> karab44: what's the output of swapon -s, and how much RAM do you have?
[09:24] <helmut__> hi
[09:25] <karab44> trijntje: swapon -s is very empty. Right now I work with hi-res graphics and have 23% of 16GB RAM used.
[09:25] <Dmaurve> wigirc: "sudo cp -R /usr/local" or "sudo cp -R trash:///share /usr/local" or something else?
[09:26] <trijntje> karab44: I'm a bit lost, your fstab shows two swap partitions but none are in use
[09:27] <g105b> Can anyone help with chromium-browser? I've reinstalled and removed the ~/.config/chromium directory, but still I'm facing this issue: Clicking a link in an external application like Skype, IRC, Thunderbird, etc. opens up a new Chromium window on the new-tab page. Always a new window, even if Chromium is already running, and always the new tab page, rather than the clicked URL.
[09:27] <trijntje> karab44: http://askubuntu.com/questions/248158/how-do-i-setup-an-encrypted-swap-file
[09:27] <karab44> yes that's weird. Disk app shows that only swap1 is created with 17GB space allocation. There is no such partition as cryptswap1
[09:27] <wigirc> Dmaurve, no, you need copy from trash with nautilus all what you deleted, and then paste with "sudo cp -R ~/deleted-folder /usr/local/"
[09:28] <wigirc> Dmaurve, you cannot use trash:/// with terminal
[09:28] <trijntje> karab44: that is correct, cryptswap is a virtual disk, not a real one
[09:29] <karab44> trijntje: but /dev/mapper/ doesn't show cryptswap as well
[09:29] <Dmaurve> wigirc: Do I type it like that or do I replace ~/deleted-folder with something?
[09:29] <karab44> *neither
[09:29] <trijntje> karab44: yeah, its weird, but unless you want to reinstall I'd just add an encrypted swapfile and forget about the rest ;)
[09:29] <Al3xG0> i need help install ubuntu gnome
[09:30] <karab44> trijntje: so where does fstab points to?
[09:30] <wigirc> Dmaurve, replace with what you deleted, i don't know what it was
[09:30] <aeon-ltd> Al3xG0: which version?
[09:30] <Dmaurve> wigirc: in what way?
[09:31] <trijntje> karab44: it points to something that doesn't exist, so its just ignored
[09:32] <wigirc> Dmaurve, mmm, did you copy stuff with nautilus from trash to home?
[09:32] <karab44> I was just curious what is going on here. For now there is no need for me to create this swap but in future it may be critical for me to do that. Thank you guys for your commitment, contribution and effort in investigating this case :)
[09:33] <Dmaurve> wigirc: no, I can't do it with nautilus
[09:33] <rooted-arm> hello , can i use multi-wireless dongles on my desktop/laptop/embedded-board , wireless 1 = internet , wireless 2 = mouse/keyboard ?
[09:34] <shunya_chakra> hi, How can I change notification icons on my pannel.
[09:35] <aeon-ltd> rooted-arm: yes, usually k/m runs on bluetooth not wifi
[09:35] <aeon-ltd> *kb/m
[09:35] <shunya_chakra> I mean I want my wifi icon become red when it's not connected to internet
[09:35] <rooted-arm> aoen-ltd , my works wireless (not bluetooth)
[09:35] <wigirc> Dmaurve, i just think of try with "gksudo nautilus" recover from trash
[09:36] <Joe_DM> Hey,
[09:36] <Joe_DM> Is there an IRC Chat for just Ubuntu Server?
[09:36] <aeon-ltd> shunya_chakra: what is it normally?
[09:36] <aeon-ltd> Joe_DM: #ubuntu-server ?
[09:37] <Dmaurve> wigirc: Does the same as with normal sudo, can't use trash
[09:37] <shunya_chakra> aeon-ltd, icon remains all the time white
[09:37] <Joe_DM> aeon-ltd thanks
[09:37] <shunya_chakra> I don't get any indication wheter internet is is working or not aeon-ltd
[09:37] <aeon-ltd> shunya_chakra: kinda a 'hack-y' solution but, if you can find the images it uses and replace them with your own it will work, but you would have to do this every package update
[09:38] <shunya_chakra> ok aeon-ltd, I want to try that, please can u tell me and give any referrence..
[09:38] <wigirc> Dmaurve, look at the /root/.local/share/Trash or /home/user/.local/share/Trash
[09:39] <Carr> hi guys
[09:39] <aeon-ltd> shunya_chakra: oh, in that case only one image is being used so it won't be possible without editing the code itself to use different images for each state
[09:39] <Carr> need help partitioning drive to dual boot win7 and ubuntu
[09:39] <Carr> currently on ubuntu
[09:39] <shunya_chakra> ohk, aeon-ltd, i think battery icon changes... its icon to red below some 20 - 25 %
[09:40] <Carr> http://imgur.com/pWLubLf
[09:40] <aeon-ltd> Carr: son, you are in for a world of hurt if windows ain't installed first
[09:40] <Carr> here's my partition table
[09:40] <Carr> how should i partition my drive?
[09:41] <Joe_DM> Carr: How do you want to partition it?
[09:41] <Carr> yea, causewhen i installed ubuntu win7 was overwritten
[09:41] <aeon-ltd> shunya_chakra: doesn't matter unless it's the same package handling all icons, even then unless there are 2 individual states to change the images on it won't be possible
[09:41] <Dmaurve> wigirc: there are 3 folders in
[09:41] <karab44> guys I have second question related to security somehow. Why when I lock my screen anyone can come and turn off/suspend my machine without any password?
[09:41] <Carr> partition it such that i can dual boot and share files like pic, vid on both os
[09:42] <shunya_chakra> :(... but how do they manage these things? i mean script... i try to find solution in google but didn't get any right result for me aeon-ltd
[09:42] <Joe_DM> Carr: Windows can't natively read EXT file system so sharing files wont be easy
[09:42] <Carr> i read about extended partitions
[09:42] <Carr> but anyway, forget the file sharing
[09:43] <wigirc> Dmaurve, copy them in /usr/local
[09:43] <Carr> what is the easiet setup to dual boot
[09:43] <shunya_chakra> aeon-ltd, is it manage in config, script or any other file? I just shifted from win to ubuntu don't have much idea bout ubunut
[09:43] <Joe_DM> Carr: I would install windows but make sure to lease free unpartitioned space on the hard drive.
[09:43] <Carr> how?
[09:43] <wigirc> Dmaurve, and you done
[09:43] <aeon-ltd> shunya_chakra: i don't know, :) heheh i've only used unity once ever
[09:43] <Joe_DM> Carr: Then when installing Ubuntu don't tell it to use all the drive, tell it to use free space or manually partition it.
[09:43] <Carr> yea
[09:43] <Dmaurve> wigirc: do i go in Trash/files?
[09:43] <UbOne> Carr you can create a FAT32
[09:44] <shunya_chakra> aeon-ltd, you don't ubuntu unitY?
[09:44] <UbOne> for linux to windows file transfer
[09:44] <Joe_DM> Carr: When installing windows it asks where to install windows, delete all the partitions, make one the size you want for windows and leave the rest.
[09:44] <wigirc> Dmaurve, from terminal copy that 3 folders
[09:44] <aeon-ltd> does the wifi icon on stock ubuntu have multiple icons indicating whether it's connected or not?
[09:44] <aeon-ltd> shunya_chakra: i don't even use ubuntu stock, i have a server install though...
[09:44] <Carr> for some reason i cant delete the partitions, its greyed out
[09:44] <Joe_DM> Carr: As UbOne suggest you could install Ubunto on FAT32 making it easier to share files.
[09:44] <Carr> thats why i'm using gparted
[09:45] <Carr> but i dont know how to do it
[09:45] <Dmaurve> wigirc: There is expunged, files, and info in Trash
[09:45] <Joe_DM> Carr: Is the format button there?
[09:45] <Carr> yea but greyed out
[09:45] <aeon-ltd> Carr:  use a live cd, doing it while mounted is potentially dangerous
[09:45] <shunya_chakra> aeon-ltd, np, but thanks... for replying :)
[09:45] <Dmaurve> wigirc: Trash/files looks like it has the trashed files
[09:45] <Carr> yea i usually boot from usb
[09:45] <wigirc> Dmaurve, i don't know how to say ;)
[09:46] <shunya_chakra> This is the best community I ever found i get response in light speed!!!
[09:46] <Joe_DM> Carr: Are you saying you don't know how to partition it or you want to know what partitions to setup?
[09:46] <Carr> but when installing windows, it doesnt recognise my partitions
[09:46] <wigirc> Dmaurve, sorry
[09:46] <UbOne> Carr you can make something like this http://postimg.org/image/idxd4png1/
[09:46] <Carr> some error saying windows does not recognise partition and cannot install on this drive
[09:47] <aeon-ltd> Carr: yeah windows can't read ext partitions, so when you are back in windows you just have to remember which partitions are for which
[09:47] <Joe_DM> Carr: Do you have an SD card or SSD installed in the system?
[09:47] <Joe_DM> Carr: If so remove it and all other USB's... It may be a bug in windows.
[09:48] <Carr> i have an internal ssd drive
[09:49] <Carr> http://imgur.com/fcE6gYR
[09:49] <Joe_DM> Carr: I know I had issues and had to remove my SSD to install windows.
[09:49] <Matrix_Op> דוברי עברית יש ?
[09:49] <Carr> i think this is the ssd on gparted
[09:50] <Matrix_Op> דוברי עברית יש ? יש ?
[09:50] <Nierya> There is a Trash/files/share, do I copy that?
[09:50] <Matrix_Op> דוברי עברית יש ? יש ?
[09:50] <Carr> ubone: i guessing that sda1-3 is windows and sda 4-8 is ubuntu?
[09:50] <UbOne> yes
[09:51] <Carr> ok
[09:51] <Carr> i'll try that
[09:51] <Carr> i'll keep you posted
[09:51] <CatKiller> !il
[09:52] <Carr> ubone: what about linux-swap
[09:52] <Carr> ubone: you don't seem to have it
[09:52] <Nierya> Who was I talking to
[09:52] <Nierya> my browser crashed
[09:52] <UbOne> Carr sda1 is windows 7 bootloader , sda2 is windows 7 system (or C:\) , sda3 could be for your personal files(or for windows xp), the extended partition is for linux and the fat32 partition is for linux to windows swap
[09:53] <UbOne> Carr there is no linux-swap because I was intending to use a swap file not a partition
[09:54] <Carr> so how do i specify sda1 is for bootloader and sda2 for c:/ and etc
[09:54] <Carr> sorry i'm really noob at this
[09:55] <Carr> do i just partition it
[09:55] <Carr> and install windows on sda1?
[09:55] <Carr> and the windows installer reads differently
[09:55] <Carr> i remember it detecting disk0: partition 1
[09:55] <Carr> something like that
[09:56] <[diablo]> Good afternoon #ubuntu ... guys I would like to have VirtManager bridging to allow my guests to be on the same subnet as the host... however IIRC Network Manager throws a wobbler and will not use br0 for example. Are there any other bridging alternatives I can use please?
[09:57] <wigirc> Carr, you need sda1 for win7 (install it first) and sda2 for ubuntu-root, if you don't want swap partition
[09:57] <[diablo]> VirtualBox uses their own bridging system and libs, so that works great, but I would prefer not to use VirtualBox
[09:58] <JOY> i m facing problem in connecting my bluetoth headset to the system...
[09:58] <Carr> i'm so confused right now
[09:58] <Nierya> wigirc: was I talking to you in a different username??
[09:58] <UbOne> Carr come on private ill help you
[09:58] <Carr> ok sure
[09:58] <Carr> how?
[09:58] <Carr> lol
[09:58] <wigirc> Nierya, about what?
[09:59] <JOY> it cant detect the headset while searching for it !! need help guys ....:!
[09:59] <UbOne> Carr dont you see a tab or something, i am already writing to you :)
[09:59] <Nierya> wigirc: restoring the "share" folder
[09:59] <wigirc> Nierya, not sure, i talk about recover /usr/local from trash folder
[10:00] <wigirc> Nierya, talked*
[10:01] <Nierya> wigirc: /usr/local/share
[10:02] <JOY> dude need helP !!
[10:03] <wigirc> Nierya, yes
[10:03] <nerdys0uth> I tried to install  netflix-desktop, failed, tried to roll back the changes, but now dpkg is screwed up http://pastebin.com/v4RqhY57
[10:04] <wigirc> Nierya, do you succeed?)
[10:04] <Nierya> wigirc: so do I copy the "share" folder from .local/share/Trash/files?
[10:04] <wigirc> Nierya, yes, and then change the owner to root
[10:05] <TuxBrother> ValueError: Unable to configure handler 'modoboa': 'module' object has no attribute 'atomic'
[10:06] <Nierya> wigirc: ok, I think it worked
[10:06] <wigirc> Nierya, nice ;)
[10:06] <wigirc> Nierya, you can check with ls
[10:07] <someHuman> Hello!
[10:07] <someHuman> How do I get flash for Chromium?
[10:07] <Nierya> wigirc: so change "Owner: Me" to "Owner: root"?
[10:07] <gry> someHuman: it is builtin
[10:07] <Nierya> wigirc: in Properties
[10:07] <someHuman> it isn't
[10:07] <nerdys0uth> apt-mark showhold gives me nothing. wat.
[10:08] <gry> someHuman: give me an url which uses flash and is reasonably modest, I'll try it in my chromium. There is also gnash but I don't really think you need it.
[10:08] <wigirc> Nierya, yes
[10:08] <TuxBrother> Any ideas about my error?
[10:09] <blaaa> I want to set up IMAP with virtual users and ACLs, on first look, two IMAP-servers appear to be a sensible choice: Dovecot and Cyrus. Is there a reason to pick one over the other?
[10:10] <Nierya> wigirc: It changes back to Me when I close it, but the other folders say Me too so
[10:11] <Nierya> wigirc: I think because I'm in sudo
[10:13] <someHuman> gry: This is what I have http://imgur.com/Jy6MyKQ
[10:13] <wigirc> Nierya, try via terminal
[10:13] <Nierya> wigirc: I think it should be like that, I think it thinks I'm root because i'm in sudo nautilus
[10:13] <Nierya> wigirc: I'll see it from normal
[10:14] <gry> someHuman: url ?
[10:14] <wigirc> Nierya, if you cannot change owner via root, you cannot change whatever via user
[10:14] <someHuman> gry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXuw4i1Qfhk
[10:15] <Nierya> wigirc: It says root if I just click the nautilus icon on the left
[10:15] <Nierya> wigirc: so I think it's ok
[10:15] <wigirc> Nierya, yeah that's ok
[10:16] <gry> someHuman: you can ask youtube to use html5 instead of flash but I now also learned that chromium doesn't have flash builtin anymore
[10:16] <cjbo> GMA500 help. I've installed 14.04 on a eeepc1201HA (gma500 video), but it's almost unusable due to being too slow. Is there any guide on how to configure it properly. Thanks.
[10:16] <someHuman> gry: Seems like it.
[10:16] <Nierya> wigirc: k :)
[10:17] <someHuman> The first solution seems tedious, like I have to explicitly ask a site to use HTML5 instead of traditional flash.
[10:17] <someHuman> How do I get flash?
[10:17] <gry> try looking for gnash in the repos
[10:18] <zephos_55> Search for "Flash" in the software centre
[10:18] <wigirc> someHuman, download google-chrome
[10:18] <CatKiller> cjbo: Did you install the netbook version?
[10:18] <zephos_55> gry: Please tell me that's a joke... gnash has terrible support for almost everything, just not worth using unless you're an Free Software zealout, in which case you probably wouldn't be using Ubuntu anyway
[10:19] <cjbo> CatKiller: no, regular i386 version
[10:19] <CatKiller> cjbo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Netbook_Edition
[10:20] <cjbo> CatKiller: it says that is merged with desktop version currently
[10:25] <CatKiller> cjbo: You might still need to install it
[10:26] <cjbo> CatKiller: ok, i'll try. where i can find 14.04 netbook version? thx
[10:27] <dohzer> I've been messing around with gnuradio, and the bladeRF locks up occasionally. Is there a way to "reset" it without hitting the J68 switch (push) button to the FX3?
[10:27] <CatKiller> cjbo: You yourself said it was merged with desktop version ;) read the wikipedia "installation" chapter
[10:27] <someHuman> I used to use Google Chrome but I had this so I was annoyed. I didn't know what to do with it. http://imgur.com/t4O9wtw
[10:27] <hdtdev> hi
[10:27] <_Sayf> \o/
[10:28] <dohzer> lol wrong channel :S
[10:28] <cjbo> CatKiller: thanks again, going to try
[10:28] <hdtdev> im new in linux,i want to know how to start a vnc services to display lxde
[10:28] <TomyWork> #linux
[10:28] <TomyWork> oops
[10:30] <nerdys0uth> ok. any time i try to install anything, apt tells me i have held packages
[10:30] <nerdys0uth> dpkg --get-selections | grep hold gives nothing
[10:31] <nerdys0uth> apt-mark showhold gives no output
[10:31] <hdtdev> noone?
[10:31] <hdtdev> ohhj
[10:33] <qstrahl> I want to enlarge my swap partition but there's no unpartitioned space on the disk and the root partition comes after the swap and adding disks isn't an option
[10:34] <qstrahl> Still doable (without loss of data)? Root partition has plenty of free space.
[10:34] <poweruntis> hello all
[10:36] <someHuman> I am trying to install Opera Web Browser and it's downloaded via .deb
[10:36] <someHuman> I can't install it, perhaps a terminal way would work?
[10:37] <gr33n7007h> someHuman, dpkg-i theOperaDeb.deb
[10:37] <someHuman> gr33n7007h: What does that mean though?
[10:38] <gr33n7007h> someHuman, man dpkg
[10:39] <someHuman> gr33n7007h: Didn't work.
[10:39] <someHuman> How is Opera by the way?
[10:39] <gr33n7007h> someHuman, dpkg -i theOperaDeb.deb make sure there is a space between dpkg and -i
[10:40] <someHuman> gr33n7007h: http://imgur.com/TjS8jiZ
[10:43] <gr33n7007h> someHuman, not sure whats going on there afraid
[10:44] <someHuman> :(
[10:44] <someHuman> I hate my browser :(
[10:44] <someHuman> I am using Chromium at the moment, I could go back to Chrome but I want to try something new like Opera.
[10:45] <gr33n7007h> someHuman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[10:45] <floridsdorf> hi
[10:46] <nerdys0uth> activating Nvidia drivers silently fail. how do i pull that up in the terminal so i can see the output?
[10:50] <nerdys0uth>  nvidia-331 : Depends: lib32gcc1 but it is not going to be installed
[10:51] <Radon_3> hi everybody, I try to run 'sudo apt-get update' and I get this error: http://tny.cz/50f93a6b  I am scared to death I can't breathe what should I do?
[10:52] <Joe_DM> why do i get the feeling this is a trap to make me click the link?
[10:53] <Radon_3> Joe_DM: I get that feeling sometimes too, but that is a simple text paste-ing website you are safe bro
[10:53] <Radon_3> I mean as far as I know
[10:53] <jrib> Radon_3: what does your "apt-key list" look like?
[10:53] <someHuman> So I let my system choose the best software source server for me, unexpectedly it chose Poland. I live in Qatar, why Poland?
[10:53] <Radon_3> jrib: how can I see that?
[10:53] <jrib> Radon_3: you run "apt-key list"
[10:54] <harmonics> Radon_3 join the social channel.
[10:54] <someHuman> It used to be Qatar earlier but then I changed to US server to get pepper flash for Chromium.
[10:54] <someHuman> I just fcked up my system I think -_-
[10:55] <mayur> hi
[10:55] <jrib> Radon_3: also please use a pastebin that doesn't spam ads :?
[10:55] <Radon_3> jrib: here is how it looks like (the output of the command): http://tny.cz/3a0fbfd5
[10:55] <Radon_3> pastebin is filtered in my country ;(
[10:55] <jrib> Radon_3: paste.ubuntu.com?
[10:56] <Joe_DM> Radon_3: Whats in your cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <Radon_3> didn't know that ubuntu had a paste system too, wow.
[10:56] <Joe_DM> neither, i just use pastebin
[10:58] <Radon_3> paste.ubuntu.com is not filtered :)    Joe_DM: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7550676/
[10:58] <Radon_3> jrib: do you need anything else?
[10:58] <nerdys0uth> i've broken apt somehow and i'm out of ideas http://pastebin.com/67052Bc4
[10:59] <jrib> nerdys0uth: you should explain how youbroke it
[10:59] <nerdys0uth> i tried to install wine + netflix-desktop
[10:59] <Radon_3> jrib: what should I do man?
[10:59] <jrib> Radon_3: you can read through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220
[11:00] <nerdys0uth> i rolled back the changes (i think) but now apt is borked
[11:00] <jrib> Radon_3: could be an issue with your connection but there are some things to try there
[11:00] <jrib> nerdys0uth: what exactly did you do?
[11:00] <Joe_DM> nerdys0uth: apt-get purge 'nvidia*'          maybe?
[11:01] <nerdys0uth> followed the directions here: http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/#overview
[11:01] <nerdys0uth> Joe_DM: tried that
[11:01] <Joe_DM> rm -rf / lol jks, never do that
[11:02] <nerdys0uth> i didn't mess with fstab tho
[11:02] <jrib> Joe_DM: please don't make that joke :/
[11:02] <nerdys0uth> ha. i'm about ready to reinstall.
[11:03] <jrib> nerdys0uth: i don't have time to troubleshoot, but you can keep trying to install the package it says it can't install, then do apt-cache policy on the packages holding it back until the issue becomes apparent (usually you have a version in advance of your current repos)
 apt-get clean maybe
[11:04] <jrib> nerdys0uth: i.e., first step would be "apt-cache policy lib32gcc1", investigate, if nothing obvious, sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1, go to step 1
[11:04] <harmonics> Radon_3: Radon_3:
[11:04] <nerdys0uth> thx jrib
[11:04] <harmonics> #ubuntu-social
[11:04] <Radon_3> armonics: what?
[11:05] <Radon_3> harmonics: what?
 apt-get -f install
[11:07] <nerdys0uth> Joe_DM: apt-get -f install returns nothing, HOWEVER, aptitude -f install grabbed some nvidia packages
 was it enough to fix it though :S
[11:07] <nerdys0uth> not yet. baby steps.
[11:09] <harmonics> Tell me about Radon_3
[11:10] <Radon_3> harmonics: I am very open, though I am an Iranian, ask me anything, I will be 101% honest.
[11:10] <Radon_3> what do you want to know about me?
[11:16] <someHuman> How do I unmount flash drive via terminal?
[11:16] <bakflash> sudo umount ?
[11:17] <someHuman> bakflash: I think it lacks something.
[11:17] <santhosh> hai iam adding ubuntu in domain controller but some users can add the task bar settings how to restict those access
[11:17] <bakflash> someHuman: what have you tried?
[11:17] <someHuman> bakflash: I went into /media
[11:17] <harmonics> Hi Radon_3
[11:17] <someHuman> Then I made a folder to contain the mounted flash
[11:18] <someHuman> As per some tutorial before
[11:18] <theadmin> someHuman: sudo umount /media/whatever
[11:18] <Radon_3> harmonics: greetings harmonics
[11:18] <gr33n7007h> someHuman, fusermount -u /media/drive
[11:18] <Radon_3> :)
[11:19] <someHuman> This is what I just did http://imgur.com/PBupAXm
[11:19] <someHuman> starting from lsblk
[11:19] <nima123> hi
[11:19] <santhosh> how to restrict user access in lubuntu
[11:19] <someHuman> gr33n7007h: What does that mean?
[11:19] <bakflash> someHuman: you are doin it wrong
[11:19] <nima123> is there anyone to help me?
[11:19] <tomy_> hello
[11:19] <someHuman> bakflash: How then?
[11:19] <gr33n7007h> someHuman, -u unmount
[11:20] <bakflash> someHuman: you have to do: sudo umount /media/usb or whatever
[11:20] <bakflash> not /dev/sdX
[11:20] <harmonics> Why does Radon_3 say I am Iranian?
[11:20] <tomy_> i need help
[11:20] <someHuman> I removed usb folder it doesn't contain anything
[11:20] <someHuman> So it seems I failed the task before -_-
[11:21] <nerdys0uth> ok. i found a  version conflict with  http://pastebin.com/DXrTYNNi and ran the downgrade script https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto. if this doesn't work i guess its time to nuke this install. Thanks for your help #ubuntu
[11:21] <someHuman> That means I have removed the flash a couple of times without safely removing it.
[11:21] <Radon_3> harmonics: With all due respect, what the fuck do you want from me man?
[11:21] <bakflash> someHuman: so I dont know what you want to umount when you have nothing mounted
[11:21] <someHuman> bakflash: My flash is mounted, I can see it in File Explorer.
[11:21] <nima123> I have ubuntu 13.1 on my laptop.
[11:22] <someHuman> It even has the eject icon beside the drive name.
[11:22] <bakflash> someHuman: then press the eject icon
[11:22] <theadmin> someHuman: Ubuntu auto-ṃounts to /media/USERNAME/DRIVENAME-OR-UUID nowadays
[11:22] <someHuman> I want to do it via terminal.
[11:22] <nima123> I use adsl wireless modem to connet internet
[11:22] <theadmin> someHuman: Also, unmount != eject, the drive will still display in Nautilus and stuff
[11:23] <theadmin> someHuman: You want "sudo eject /dev/sdb" (or somesuch) to remove it completely.
[11:23] <someHuman> theadmin: I don't see any mounted drive in /media/username
[11:23] <nima123> when in ubuntu I want connect to internet, only google page can load!
[11:23] <someHuman> theadmin: Cool! Thanks!
[11:24] <harmonics> Just to know about Radon_3  more..
[11:24] <harmonics> What happens to man exposed to Radon_3
[11:25] <bcvery> !ot | harmonics
[11:26] <Radon_3> harmonics: I have a penis, the normal size, just like you I guess, if you see me you would think I am like all the other human beings, just doing my part for this planet, I am single, and alone as fuck, I like people from all around the globe, I like nature and birds I like to read about snakes :)
[11:26] <theadmin> What happen
[11:27] <theadmin> Radon_3: Please take generic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:27] <Radon_3> theadmin: صهمم  یخ.
[11:28] <Radon_3> theadmin: will do.
[11:28] <Radon_3> sorry
[11:28] <harmonics> pegasus
[11:28] <Romance> Radon_3: As salam mualaykum
[11:29] <nima123> In my Ubuntu13.1, only google can open and I can't see any other sites! please help?
[11:29] <Radon_3> WTF, I am off
[11:29] <theadmin> nima123: This is not an Ubuntu issue, it's something to do with your network configuration, also, 13.1 is not an Ubuntu version
[11:29] <harmonics> These are from mormons, coding the UTF
[11:29] <harmonics> What lies
[11:30] <nima123> I configure my network manually but problem already persist!
[11:31] <harmonics> Miss Soldana
[11:31] <theadmin> nima123: Pastebin the output of "ping google.com" and "ping cern.ch" please
[11:31] <harmonics> What lies
[11:31] <harmonics> I may like to stomp on a snake Radon_3
[11:32] <theadmin> !ops
[11:32] <harmonics> Cat mormon temple(s) + underground network
[11:32] <harmonics> Kevin
[11:32] <harmonics> Scan
[11:32] <IdleOne> harmonics: Please stop with the random chatter
[11:33] <nima123> I am on win now. lets go to ubuntu
[11:33] <IdleOne> This is a support channel, not a playground
[11:33] <nima123> tnx a lot
[11:33] <qstrahl> Happy to announce that I just completed my first successful rootfs resize+move and as a result of my efforts I now also have Hibernate working =)
[11:34] <Guest57516> the sound is muted after login. how can i fix
[11:35] <cactuswizard> does someone have problems on commenting youtube videos on chromium?
[11:36] <theadmin> Guest57516: You can place something like "amixer sset Master 100%" to your startup
[11:36] <theadmin> Guest57516: But then the volume will always be at 100% after login
[11:37] <Guest57516> theadmin, can i set it to 50%?
[11:37] <theadmin> Guest57516: Yes, just change the number :P
[11:37] <Guest57516> thx
[11:37] <theadmin> Guest57516: Or, actually, try, "amixer set Master unmute"
[11:37] <theadmin> Guest57516: Should work better
[11:38] <Guest57516> thx so much
[11:38] <Guest57516> do i need sudo?
[11:38] <theadmin> Guest57516: No
[11:38] <theadmin> Guest57516: Search for "Startup Applications" in the menu and then put the command there
[11:38] <theadmin> Guest57516: Also make sure amixer is installed, idk if it's in the default install
[11:39] <ritesh> need a small help
[11:39] <ritesh> i can't do this -> m="u!@"
[11:40] <ritesh> it gets be error = -bash: !@: event not found
[11:40] <ritesh> can someone help me with this ?
[11:40] <theadmin> ritesh: Use single quote
[11:40] <ritesh> ohk
[11:40] <theadmin> ritesh: m='u!@'
[11:40] <ritesh> thanks :)
[11:49] <Lachezar> Is it possible to move from i686+PAE to amd64 without a complete reinstall? Ubuntu Server.
[11:51] <nerdys0uth> Lachezar: maybe dpkg --add-architecture amd64 ?
[11:53] <theadmin> nerdys0uth: no no no and no
[11:53] <Lachezar> nerdys0uth: I'm googling around, and seems like the general consensus is: NO!
[11:54] <theadmin> Lachezar: You can't do it in any way that wouldn't break your system
[11:54] <Lachezar> theadmin: Bummer.
[11:55] <theadmin> Why would you even have a server on i686
[11:55] <theadmin> in the first place
[11:55] <Lachezar> theadmin: 4G RAM>
[11:57] <ubuntuser13> Hello!
[11:58] <Lachezar> theadmin: It worked very well, but in the last 1 year or so I started getting lots of kernel panics to the point where only iKVM reboot was needed every 2-3 days. And not the USB-HID blocked (D state), and I had to do yet another reboot.
[12:05] <CodePulsar> Can I update the firmware of a SSD from a Windows virtual machine?
[12:05] <knob> Good morning
[12:08] <john_rambo> Hi, Recently I migrated from DSL to Cable broadband whcih is a shared LAN connection ....I have implemented port forwarding for Transmission ... IS there any security risk doing this Cable broadband (LAN) ?
[12:08] <theadmin> CodePulsar: Uh, no, the VM wouldn't see the drive as whatever it is you have, it will detect it as "VBOX ATA HARDDISK" (for Virtualbox) or whatever like that
[12:09] <theadmin> CodePulsar: It won't be able to interact with your host drive that way
[12:19] <Carr> guys
[12:19] <Carr> how do i add windows7 entry to grub
[12:19] <Carr> i have in installed on ssd
[12:19] <Carr> but can't boot
[12:20] <Carr> help please
[12:21] <theadmin> Carr: Try "sudo update-grub" in a terminal
[12:21] <theadmin> Carr: See if it finds it
[12:21] <theadmin> Carr: Also if it's on a separate drive just tell your BIOS to boot that
[12:21] <UbOne> ^sda is hdd with ubuntu installed first, sdb is ssd with windows 7 installed second but ssd is not visible in bios
[12:22] <Carr> doenst find it on terminal
[12:22] <Carr> ubone was helping me just now
[12:23] <Carr> manaage to install win7 to ssd
[12:23] <hub36> hello
[12:23] <Carr> i don't see ssd on bios
[12:23] <Carr> i only see sata hdd and sata cd
[12:23] <Carr> the rest is usb and network
[12:25] <ubuntuser13> carr: hello
[12:25] <ubuntuser13> carr: answer to your question is here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/109701/windows-on-ssd-ubuntu-on-hdd
[12:27] <Carr> i'll check it out
[12:38] <hot-girl> hi
[12:38] <hot-girl> how can I install a tar.gz on ubuntu?
[12:39] <hot-girl>  how can I install a tar.gz on ubuntu?
[12:39] <hot-girl> hellp
[12:39] <rio_zenta> Hello. Normally under a dual-boot I get the option for Windows or Ubuntu on the first screen menu. How do I change the order?
[12:39] <UbOne> un-tar.gz it
[12:40] <ubuntuser13> hot-girl :  extract the package and read readme file inside package.
[12:40] <rio_zenta> !tarball | hot-girl
[12:40] <rio_zenta> !compile | hot-girl
[12:42] <hot-girl> there is no readme file in the pakage! rnumber of folders and one txt file with name build!
[12:42] <OerHeks> hot-girl, what package are you talking about?
[12:42] <ubuntuser13> hot-girl: is there any file named install
[12:43] <rio_zenta> hot-girl you need to compile the tar.gz package. This is a complicated thing for a beginner, so you should instead search for the software in the Software Centre.
[12:43] <hot-girl> tar.gz! no. there is not install filer
[12:44] <hot-girl> the software is pycharm communacation
[12:44] <hot-girl> the software is not in software center
[12:44] <hot-girl> how can I compile it?
[12:44] <aaeon> give us a link to the software
[12:44] <rio_zenta> Is there a .deb version of the software? hot-girl
[12:45] <hot-girl> not deb file
[12:45] <mojtaba> Hi, I have followed all this tutorial and I am trying to connect to my pi via ubuntu. But I get connection timed out error. Any help is highly appreciated. http://readwrite.com/2014/04/10/raspberry-pi-vpn-tutorial-server-secure-web-browsing#awesm=~oFHQP63smB59uG
[12:45] <hot-girl> http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/
[12:46] <rio_zenta> oh it's the python IDE.
[12:46] <hot-girl> this was my software link
[12:46] <ubuntuser13> hot-girl: deb is availiable http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/getdeb-apps-amd64/pycharm_3.1.2-1~getdeb1_amd64.deb.html
[12:47] <hot-girl> means I must redownload it with deb version?
[12:47] <rio_zenta> mojtaba: Can you provide the error log?
[12:47] <rio_zenta> hot-girl: yes, for easier installation
[12:47] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: How should I do that?
[12:48] <ubuntuser13> hot-girl: to install deb package , just install gdebi from software center.
[12:48] <rio_zenta> !pastebin | mojtaba
[12:48] <hot-girl> tnx
[12:48] <hot-girl> tanx a lot
[12:48] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: I know pastebin, but where is the log?
[12:49] <rio_zenta> mojtaba: The error log you get in the "Terminal"
[12:49] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: I have configured ubuntu as a client from top right bar. (VPN connections)
[12:50] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: I am not using terminal, but I am more than happy to do that
[12:50] <rio_zenta> mojtaba: Have you successfully installed the OpenVPN software?
[12:50] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: yes
[12:50] <rio_zenta> Have you successfully installed all the required software? mojtaba
[12:51] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: What are they?
[12:52] <rio_zenta> mojtaba: By that I mean, whatever the tutorial specified.
[12:52] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: yes
[12:54] <rahuL__> how to stop my camera
[12:55] <rahuL__> it is working till now
[12:55] <rahuL__> i don't know where
[12:55] <aguitel> unplug
[12:55] <rahuL__> laptop camera
[12:55] <rio_zenta> mojtaba: I require some more info to diagnose the issue.
[12:55] <rahuL__> i closed all application using it
[12:55] <rio_zenta> rahuL__: What version of ubuntu are you using and has the camera stopped working completely?
[12:55] <andchat706489> Heyc
[12:56] <andchat706489> HeycHey
[12:56] <andchat706489> Hey guys
[12:56] <andchat706489> Guys hey
[12:56] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: How can I provide them?
[12:56] <andchat706489> Hey
[12:56] <cfhowlett> andchat706489 yes you are seen.  ask your ubuntu questions
[12:56] <rahuL__> rio_zenta, 14.04
[12:56] <rio_zenta> What does the full error say? mojtaba
[12:56] <rahuL__> rio_zenta, it is saying resource busy
[12:57] <andchat706489> My question is how I do it
[12:57] <rahuL__> andchat706489, what?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> andchat706489 you're making no sense.  "do it"?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !details|andchat706489
[12:57] <Radon_3> hi again everyone, what folders should normally be present in my /var/lib/apt/ ?
[12:58] <Radon_3> I think I removed something bymistake
[12:58] <Radon_3> and I am scared
[12:58] <andchat706489> I fixed it
[12:58] <andchat706489> Bye!
[12:58] <rio_zenta> rahuL__: Try restarting the laptop to see if it not one of "those" errors
[12:58] <orion> Hi. With qemu/kvm, is it possible to connect the virtual networks of hypervisors together to form one large network?
[12:58] <orion> If so, how is this done>
[12:58] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: The vpn connection failed, because of time out.
[12:58] <rahuL__> rio_zenta, aah i am connected to pi here on laptop
[12:58] <rio_zenta> orion: Like a cloud?
[12:58] <andchat706489> Guys can you controlled an android phone through Ubuntu?
[12:58] <orion> yes
[12:59] <andchat706489> Controlled*
[12:59] <andchat706489> How do I control my android phone from my laptop
[12:59] <compdoc> orion, if the hypervisors are on different computers, you have to connect them together somehow
[12:59] <rio_zenta> orion: May I ask what you are trying to achieve?
[12:59] <rio_zenta> andchat706489: By using a USB cable.
[13:00] <Radon_3> guys?
[13:00] <andchat706489> Ok Rio and then what
[13:00] <rio_zenta> mojtaba: What is the error number?
[13:00] <orion> rio_zenta: If I have two physical servers in two different datacenters, I want the VMs which reside on both servers to be able to communicate with one another.
[13:00] <andchat706489> I want it to be clear
[13:01] <andchat706489> I want to see the screen of my android and controlled it using my Ubuntu
[13:01] <rio_zenta> andchat706489: Once the phone is connected to the laptop, you will access to it. If you are talking about controlling the actual OS (as if you were using it through your laptop), well that is a complicated thing to achieve firstly.
[13:02] <rio_zenta> orion: There's no need to do that. You can simply control them by talking to each of them through SSH.
[13:02] <andchat706489> Yes I want to view and control my android.
[13:02] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: It just pop up at the top right corner of my screen.
[13:02] <rio_zenta> I see mojtaba: Well I am checking for it. Hold on
[13:03] <rio_zenta> andchat706489: I'm not sure how to do that. Sorry
[13:03] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: thanks
[13:03] <andchat706489> Its mmk
[13:03] <LjL-Laplet> andchat706489: i believe you'd need root and something like a VNC server
[13:03] <andchat706489> Oh well I'll Google it thanks anyway!
[13:03] <jeffasinger> I have a server that seems to occasionally have it's network interfaces go down, and not come back up. It's configured with a static IP. Logging in via IPMI and doing an ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 seems to fix it
[13:04] <jeffasinger> Any ideas why that might be happening?
[13:04] <rio_zenta> mojtaba: Can you provide a screenshot of the error? I'm getting random results.
[13:04] <Radon_3> WOW, it is cool to be invisible.... thank you guys :)
[13:04] <orion> rio_zenta: There is a need to have the VMs communicat with one another. Let's say I have a VM in Dallas running PostgreSQL and another VM in Chicago running nginx. I want the VMs to be able to communicate with one another.
[13:04] <rio_zenta> LjL-Laplet: It gets more complicated than that due to the architecture differences of ARM and Intel processors.
[13:05] <LjL-Laplet> rio_zenta: uh, why?
[13:05] <mojtaba> rio_zenta: I have found someone to help me on this in other channel, as soon as I get any result (I hope to), I will let you know. Thank you very much
[13:05] <LjL-Laplet> how does VNC care about architectures
[13:05] <rio_zenta> LjL-Laplet: Due to getting android to run on a PC.
[13:05] <LjL-Laplet> what
[13:05] <LjL-Laplet> no one is saying anything about running Android on a PC
[13:05] <rio_zenta> oh VNC.
[13:05] <rio_zenta> ok I never saw that part.
[13:05] <LjL-Laplet> besides, Android can run on x86
[13:06] <rio_zenta> orion: Define what you mean by communicate? Do you want a persistent connection?
[13:06] <rio_zenta> I know it can LjL-Laplet.
[13:07] <blustarwolf> radon: mine shows keyrings lists mirrors and periodic as folders in that dir
[13:07] <rio_zenta> goodluck mojtaba, sorry I couldn't help.
[13:07] <Radon_3> blustarwolf: you're so kinds, thanks man
[13:07] <orion> rio_zenta: More specifically, if I have a hypervisor in Dallas with vlan 192.168.1.0/24 and a hypervisor in Chicago with vlan 192.168.2.0/24, I want to be able to ping 192.168.1.X from Chicago and vice-versa.
[13:08] <prefernt> I created a raid on my ubuntu box and mapped it to /dev/md0. but when I rebooted the machine, the raid moved to /dev/md127 -- why does this happen? Is this normal?
[13:09] <padhu> anybody help me to fix my weather indicator. i am using vinDSL conky
[13:09] <rio_zenta> orion: If you want to connect to them just to speak to each other on occasion, then you can SSH into 1 server and from there, SSH into the other server. That way you will be accessing one server from the other. For a more complicated task, I suggest you ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:10] <Radon_3> blustarwolf: Well, mine is just like yours, and I think we both are fine, but I can't tell A from B in ubuntu, cause I am just a wannabe
[13:10] <Radon_3> but my professional guess is that we are fine
[13:10] <blustarwolf> why did you think there was a problem with those folders?
[13:11] <Radon_3> blustarwolf: I had to remove the lists folder and the pranoid that I am thought I might have removed something else too with it by mistake
[13:12] <blustarwolf> apt-get update may fix it when that happens but not too sure, just removing the lists directory should be ok..
[13:12] <Radon_3> blustarwolf: presisley
[13:14] <Radon_3>  /join ##English
[13:14] <Radon_3>  /join ##English
[13:17] <andchat706489> Hi
[13:18] <andchat706489> What's the best and CNC viewer to Linux vnc server app?
[13:19] <andchat706489> What's to best android vnc viewer to Linux vnc server app?
[13:19] <andchat706489> hello?
[13:19] <LjL-Laplet> andchat706489: you want the opposite of that. Android server, Linux viewer.
[13:19] <andchat706489> No I changed my mind
[13:20] <LjL-Laplet> uh... okay
[13:20] <andchat706489> I want Ubuntu vnc server
[13:20] <andchat706489> Android vnc viewer
[13:20] <andchat706489> App
[13:21] <andchat706489> Anybody know?
[13:21] <andchat706489> How you do it?
[13:21] <LjL-Laplet> https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=vnc&fdid=android.androidVNC
[13:21] <LjL-Laplet> !find vnc
[13:21] <andchat706489> How do I use the link?
[13:22] <andchat706489> How do I use the link?
[13:22] <andchat706489> And why is it underlined
[13:22] <LjL-Laplet> oh please
[13:22] <andchat706489> ???
[13:22] <andchat706489> Why is it blue?
[13:22] <andchat706489> Pooh JHVH I get it
[13:23] <andchat706489> Ohhh* not pooh(Stupid auto correct)
[13:25] <AndChat706484> I think I got it
 you feeling alright?
[13:26] <AndChat706484> I'll just do apt-get in terminal and find a vnc server
[13:50] <djo_> o
[13:50] <djo_> #burgas
[13:50] <Joe_DM> Hi All
[13:50] <djo_> opa
[13:50] <djo_> hello
[13:50] <UbOne> mara selski
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> Joe_DM: hello mate, how can we help you?
[13:50] <Joe_DM> Does anyone know if there is a bug or issue with SAMBA and checking file size from windows.
[13:51] <Joe_DM> Small files show at 1MB each even if 1kb
[13:51] <djo_> bradare imam proglem da go eba
[13:51] <UbOne> kaji moje i da moga da pomoogna
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> !english | djo_ UbOne
[13:51] <djo_> iskam da poigravam
[13:52] <cfhowlett> no polish - too many vowels ...
[13:52] <UbOne> djo what games?
[13:52] <djo_> i pm you
[13:53] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I went through the ubuntu installation 14.04 on a new thinkserver (desktop version of ubuntu though). The install went all correct and rebooted, but not it will not boot from the hard drive
[13:54] <Pinkamena_D> any suggestions
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: what error you getting?
[13:56] <Pinkamena_D> no error, it just acts like the hard drive has nothing bootable
[13:56] <Pinkamena_D> goes to next drvice
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: did you clean install ubuntu, or dualboot?
[13:56] <Pinkamena_D> clean
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: can you enter grub at boot holding shift?
[13:57] <Joe_DM> Actually just thinking back, Didnt ubuntu workstation have a downloadable .exe that you run from windows and it just automatically setups up dual boot?
[13:57] <dbugger> I have a issue with bower and npm, could someone give me a hand with it? http://askubuntu.com/questions/474323/uninstalling-bower-installed-with-a-different-version-of-npm
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | Joe_DM
[13:58] <noiro_> where does wget default save to?
[13:58] <Joe_DM> ubottu: shows how long since i used workstation
[13:58] <Joe_DM> noiro: wget saves to your working directory
[13:58] <genii> noiro_: Whatever directory you ran it from
[13:59] <glenn9k> HI guys. Just installed 14.04 32bit. My Intel 3945ABG wifi it detected, detects networks, but seems to timeout when I try to connect to them. Any ideas?
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> glenn9k: clean install or upgrade?
[14:00] <Pinkamena_D> in the process of trying again with manual partitions
[14:00] <Joe_DM> dfglenn9k: common suggestion is disable ipv6
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: maybe bios is set to first boot another HD?
[14:00] <glenn9k> lotuspsychje, Clean install
[14:01] <glenn9k> Joe_DM, ok, how?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> glenn9k: you enabled updates during setup?
[14:01] <Joe_DM> glenn9k: I'm more a server guy, dunno about workstation
[14:01] <glenn9k> lotuspsychje, I was running 12.04 before. Wifi worked fine there.. it is possible that I did something to get it working back when 12.04 was installed though...
[14:02] <glenn9k> lotuspsychje, Yup, updates enabled during install, and after. ALl updates applied
[14:02] <glenn9k> (via lan cable)
[14:03] <noiro_> If a wav file is only 200kb, would you assume it's improperly downloaded? Do I need special arguments?
[14:03] <glenn9k> noiro_, 200kb wav must be a very, very short sound, or it is not complete
[14:05] <Joe_DM> Could be a system sounds
[14:09] <glenn9k> so... no ideas on how to get the 3945ABG to connect to stuff?
[14:10] <glenn9k> I really don't want to have to install windows :(
[14:11] <glenn9k> "Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection driver: iwl3945"
[14:19] <zylex> hello :) can anyone help me with a problem?
[14:19] <zylex> steam related
[14:20] <glenn9k> ask the question and we'll see. :)
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !ask|zylex
[14:21] <iizarianw> Hello. I'm using cifs shares on 12.04 boxes. I have some caching problems sometimes with directory lists and files themselves. Users sometimes try to access a file that has been renamed which results in an error. Or a user will reopen and image file that has been completely modified and see the old version. I happens infrequently enough for clearing cache to be an appropriate solution. Disabling cache entirely isn't really a good option since remote users wo
[14:23] <zylex> i have a problem with steam, "Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.  i use radeon hd 7870.  and driver from amds site
[14:24] <glenn9k> I'm not used to AMD products... But isn't there a driver available directly from ubuntu's driver manager?
[14:24] <glenn9k> (settings > software & sources > driver blabla)
[14:25] <jettex> i have 7870 too ... no probs with steam at all with beta driver from amd
[14:25] <zylex> there is a couple of drivers there
[14:25] <glenn9k> zylex, then try them. they're optimized for ubuntu
[14:25] <zylex> however i cant select them now :(
[14:25] <glenn9k> Hmm, try to find a way to uninstall the stuff from AMD's site
[14:26] <glenn9k> if you can't reinstall ubuntu and then select a driver from the driver manager instead
[14:26] <glenn9k> woops, missed a comma there. "If you can't, reinstall..........."
[14:26] <zylex> k
[14:27] <UbOne> is it possible to play lineage 2 on ubuntu ?
[14:27] <glenn9k> if it's listed as linux compatible on steam, then yes
[14:27] <glenn9k> I don't have steam installed though, so I can't check
[14:30] <iceburned> check
[14:31] <zylex> uninstalling was abit more then i thougt :D
[14:32] <iceburned> test
[14:32] <jettex> guys ... any1 able to help me with a conky problem?
[14:33] <iceburned> conky what for?
[14:33] <jettex> its running without errors ... but look -> http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3638/63gdvane_png.htm
[14:34] <jettex> and heres -> http://pastebin.com/6MwcmKZF
[14:35] <jettex> its my old .conkyrc which i used all the time b4 .. but now i switched from debian wheezy to 14.04 .. and bang.. problems -.-
[14:39] <winthrop> !list
[14:42] <iceburned> I just want to ask a question. actually what for conky is?
[14:42] <ck077685> conky is for displaying 'useful' stats
[14:42] <SchrodingersScat> !info conky | iceburned, idk, but people talk about it:
[14:43] <iceburned> how to use it (conky)?
[14:44] <SchrodingersScat> iceburned: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[14:45] <diamonds> yo
[14:46] <diamonds> sleep 3 && /usr/bin/nmcli con up uuid xxxxxx
[14:46] <diamonds> I have this in my `startup applications`
[14:46] <diamonds> why doesn't it work (?)
[14:46] <diamonds> trying to autoconnect VPN on startup
[14:46] <rio_zenta> When I startup my dual-boot computer, I get to either boot to windows or to ubuntu. However, Ubuntu is the second choice. How do I change the order so that ubuntu is first?
[14:47] <diamonds> rio_zenta, http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[14:47] <rio_zenta> thanks diamonds!!!
[14:47] <diamonds> np let us know if it works :)
[14:47]  * diamonds awaits his karmic payback
[14:47] <iceburned> how to setting vpn?
[14:47] <diamonds> someone will tell me how to connect VPN on startup :)
[14:48] <diamonds> iceburned, who is your provider?
[14:48] <diamonds> actually maybe it doesn't matter, i'm not sure... I use privateinternetaccess & they have instructions specifically for ubuntu
[14:49] <iceburned> smartfren from indonesia
[14:49] <iceburned> diamonds
[14:49] <someHuman> Oh man!
[14:49] <someHuman> My Firefox sucks!
[14:50] <someHuman> Does anyone have the same problem?
[14:50]  * diamonds blinks
[14:50] <diamonds> someHuman, ??
[14:50] <rio_zenta> someHuman: We don't know the problem
[14:50] <someHuman> It seems buggy and all, laggy or sketchy?
[14:50] <someHuman> Hmmm, I'd say it's sketchy.
[14:50] <diamonds> iceburned, I'm not sure, I'm sorry
[14:50] <diamonds> I'm actually here for VPN help myself
[14:50] <SchrodingersScat> someHuman: it feels like it's been going downhill, but that's probably !ot
[14:51] <someHuman> -_-
[14:51] <someHuman> I want to install Opera though.
[14:51] <diamonds> iceburned, have you looked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[14:51] <SchrodingersScat> someHuman: you can
[14:51] <cfhowlett> someHuman so?  install it.
[14:51] <someHuman> Help?
[14:51] <someHuman> I already have the .deb
[14:51] <someHuman> I can't install it via Software Center
[14:51] <cfhowlett> someHuman sudo dpkg -i opera.deb
[14:52] <Hanumaan> is there any tool in ubuntu to get notified if a server is not running via email ?
[14:52] <reisio> someHuman: you don't want Opera, and even if you did, you wouldn't want to do it with a random .deb
[14:52] <thecha> cfhowlett get firefox instead
[14:52] <someHuman> Well what's the best browser?
[14:52] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: why would it be random? they offer it on their site.
[14:52] <thecha> somehuman: get firefox
[14:52] <reisio> Firefox, still
[14:52] <cfhowlett> someHuman there is no "best".
[14:52] <reisio> that doesn't make it great, just less awful
[14:53] <compdoc> firefox is good. and I like Chrome
[14:53] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: site? What is this, Windows?
[14:53] <reisio> don't know about you, but I have a package manager
[14:53] <thecha> firefox is amazing, but if you want to go all the way try abrowser
[14:53] <cfhowlett> !browser
[14:53] <someHuman> Firefox works fine but it acts sketchy.
[14:53] <reisio> they all do
[14:53] <reisio> too busy screwing with the UI
[14:53] <jeffasinger> Hanumaan: I use pingdom for that, not in ubuntu per say
[14:53] <diamonds> lol
[14:53] <diamonds> "Firefox + a bunch of chromium clones"
[14:53] <thecha> someHuman get abrowser it is firefox but 100% opensource and free osftware
[14:53] <diamonds> yeah I know konq came first
[14:54] <reisio> diamonds: :p
[14:54]  * diamonds uses chromium-browser
[14:54] <thecha> firefox minus the sketchy parts = abrowser
[14:54] <someHuman> Ok, thanks guys!
[14:54] <diamonds> but I pray every day for FF to get better enough to switch back to it
[14:54]  * diamonds prays
[14:54] <reisio> yeah they're lost
[14:54] <thecha> diamonds what are you using?
[14:54] <reisio> the time for custom Firefox builds is now
[14:55] <nagyz> hi
[14:55] <nagyz> could someone clarify for me how cloud-init fills out /etc/network/interface, if at all?
[14:55] <nagyz> can it only do so if it's provided by the cloud provider?
[14:55] <nagyz> I'm trying to use it without a proper metadata service, just running with a config drive.
[14:55] <diamonds> thecha, chromium-browser
[14:56] <rio_zenta> chrome and chromium isn't that much better than FF. Try opening 20 tabs in chrome
[14:56] <diamonds> thecha, I hope FF will get their dev tools up to snuff but chromium is just waaaaay beyond them at this point
[14:56] <diamonds> I've used opera on and off as well
[14:56] <rio_zenta> oh yes, the new FF is chrome-skinned too.
[14:56] <Joe_DM> If you want chrome, just get chrome
[14:56] <ben_g> Hi
[14:57] <Joe_DM> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79280/how-to-install-chrome-browser-properly-via-command-line
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> diamonds, That is an opinion and biased, why are you espousing it?
[14:57] <reisio> Firefox has a lot of management problems, but not nearly as many as Google
[14:57] <dannyedwrds> Im trying to setup my CAC Card Reader in ubuntu 14.04 but the program CACKey that the ubuntu documentation wont install it says that failed to install
[14:57] <reisio> dannyedwrds: cac?
[14:57] <ben_g> I think I have a problem with my graphics card driver
[14:57] <diamonds> wilee-nilee, ...because someone asked?
[14:58] <floridsdorf> hi
[14:58] <reisio> ben_g: thinking again? :)
[14:58] <reisio> floridsdorf: heyo
[14:58] <diamonds> "what's the best browser" ... "diamonds: what do you use" < wilee-nilee
[14:58] <cfhowlett> .... moving on ...
[14:58] <rio_zenta> Cue: Flame-wars for tah browser
[14:58]  * diamonds nods
[14:58] <dannyedwrds> reisio: Its a card that allows me access to certain sites im in the army
[14:58] <ben_g> My computer regularly freezes
[14:58] <ben_g> But sounds keep playing
[14:58] <wilee-nilee> diamonds, That does not mean it is valid here is all. What you use is not thew same as "best". ;)
[14:59] <rio_zenta> dannyedwrds: Probably best not to disclose that on IRC, as the chats are logged...
[14:59] <cfhowlett> dannyedwrds see you hardware documentation
[14:59] <ben_g> And when I press ctrl+alt+f1, I can switch to text mode, then I can switch back to the GUI and it works again for a while
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: there is no single best. If an outright best existed, the others would die out as nobody would use them
[14:59] <reisio> dannyedwrds: oh, hardware key?
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> rio_zenta, we don't do flame wars here that is my point.
[14:59] <ben_g> I'm not sure, but I think it's the graphics card that causes that behavious
[14:59] <reisio> rio_zenta: I doubt it's top secret :p
[14:59] <ben_g> *behaviour
[15:00] <dannyedwrds> rio_zenta: I have been reading the documentation  and have installed everything software exept for this program and it just fails to install
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: what GPU are you using?
[15:00] <diamonds> ActionParsnip, use whatever you want :) someone asked me & I was just sharing my personal experience as a web-dev
[15:00] <diamonds> anyway someone let me know if you know how to get VPN to connect on startup
[15:00] <rio_zenta> dannyedwrds: If it's hardware, then you're likely looking for a driver.
[15:00] <ben_g> I'm using my nvidia geforce 710M GPU with the nvidia drivers
[15:00] <diamonds> I tried adding to "startup programs" but it doesn't seem to do it
[15:00] <cfhowlett> dannyedwrds again: it's not by canonical/ubuntu, it's not FROM canonical/ubuntu so ... start with the OEM for support
[15:00] <leetdood> Is it possible to use a DNSBL with iptables?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: I do, always have. Its why I use Ubuntu (and Linux in general) people laughed when I was installing Mandrake whilst they were installing Windows XP
[15:00] <ben_g> on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[15:01] <leetdood> someone is attempting to spam my game via proxies (they got mad because they got banned)
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !ufw|leetdood
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: if you can pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia      it will help
[15:01] <rio_zenta> leetdood, server issue?
[15:01] <leetdood> yeah, server issue
[15:01] <diamonds> ActionParsnip, yeah but XP was p. good tho
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !server|leetdood
[15:02] <leetdood> oh, thank you
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: at the time it was the newest release from Microsoft, but it didnt suit my needs. So I used something else.
[15:02] <reisio> leetdood: fail2ban, etc.
[15:02] <ben_g> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/tu4AfGyg
[15:02] <leetdood> thank you reisio
[15:03] <diamonds> ActionParsnip, I want you to rewind time & switch to XP 10 years ago. I insist
[15:03] <rio_zenta> let me disappear for a while. See you guys later.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: not used Windows on my own PCs since 2000 dude, not starting now
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: is this a laptop?
[15:03] <ben_g> Yes
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: run:  sudo dpkg -P nvidia-304 nvidia-libopencl1-304 nvidia-libopencl1-331 nvidia-opencl-icd-304     will clean up the packages some, you could try looking into Bumblebee too, you also have an Intel GPU in your system which may cause issues
[15:05] <ben_g> Well, the guy who installed the drivers on my laptop said bumblebee was rather unstable
[15:06] <ben_g> And I don't really want to mess too much with my drivers, since I screwed up before when trying to install them myself
[15:07] <ben_g> Anyway, I ran that command to clean up the packages. I'll reboot now, brb
[15:09] <ben_g_> I'm back
[15:10] <djo_> o
[15:10] <iceburned> Why my laptop does not detect wi-fi signal? any suggestion?
[15:11] <reisio> iceburned: what's the wireless device?
[15:11] <reisio> ben_g_: wb
[15:12] <iceburned> reisio : 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Memory at f0100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[15:12] <unopaste> iceburned you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:13] <genii> Meh, Broadcoms
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[15:14] <reisio> iceburned: ^
[15:22] <chenxiongfei> 有马尼拉的同学吗？
[15:22] <cfhowlett> !cn|chenxiongfei
[15:22] <compdoc> thats easy for you to say
[15:25] <bbrges> super+m opens "music". how can i disable that? Ubuntu 14.04
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> bbrges: tried keyboard under system settings?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> bbrges: do you use the music lens?
[15:26] <weevieL2> compizconfig?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> bbrges: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142119/how-can-i-assign-the-key-superm-to-minimize-all-windows-in-ubuntu-12-04
[15:27] <bbrges> @ActionParsnip i don't use music lens
[15:28] <OerHeks> 'opens music' = music lens in dash
[15:28] <bbrges> @ActionParsnip didn't find it in "Keyboard"
[15:28] <reisio> you could try egrep -ilr music ~/.config
[15:28] <reisio> might get lucky and find it fast
[15:28] <bbrges> @OerHeks yes I want it to NOT open that
[15:30] <weevieL2> god damn I love Fry's
[15:30] <marscher> what maybe broken in my init system, if startup goes fine, but hangs on shutdown/reboot?
[15:31] <bbrges> @reisio found two files. None of them is keyboard shortcut
[15:31] <zh> http://youtu.be/gZakKwQ-gFM :(
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> weevieL2, This is a world wide channel not swearing, this is a multicultural/intercultural place think before posting please. ;)
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> no*
[15:35] <kilopy> is there a way to install multiloader on ubuntu to flash a cellular?
[15:35] <kilopy> or an alternative?
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> kilopy, THe google play multloader?
[15:35] <OerHeks> bbrges, odd, i cannot find them in keybindigs too > press Alt+F2 and enter dconf-editor, then navigate to org > gnome > desktop > wm > keybindings
[15:36] <kilopy> wilee-nilee: Is it for installation or online use? I'd like to flash a samsumg corby..
[15:37] <kilopy> samsung
[15:37] <bbrges> @OerHeks I need to install "dconf-editor"?
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> kilopy, You can flash from linux or windows, in general it depends on the phone. The google play multiloader wont run on that I believe and is a android app, just had to ask.
[15:38] <OerHeks> bbrges, yes, it is not installed standard.
[15:39] <OerHeks> but i cannot find that shortkey win+m  :-(
[15:41] <hubelibub> hi! is it common behavior that the exit/minimize/maximize buttons don't show in thunderbird
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:42] <OerHeks> hubelibub, sure, they show up on the top panel
[15:42] <wilee-nilee> kilopy, You can sideload maybe from recovery, this may not be supported or the best channel, I would ask in #android or #android-root or ##linux or #ubuntu-touch thisinfo is on the web though hopefully per your phone.
[15:42] <schone> hello
[15:43] <reisio> 'lo schone
[15:43] <schone> in hte new trusty 14.04 release, utilizing the cloud ready image, is the user ubuntu and it’s home directory only created on the first run?
[15:43] <schone> cause i’m trying to chown a file to ubuntu:ubuntu and i get back no such user
[15:43] <hubelibub> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:43] <iceburned> why my firefox always shows install flash, install plugin
[15:44] <OerHeks> iceburned, if you have a working flashplugin, those warnings are malware.
[15:44] <hubelibub> OerHeks, they don't show up on the top panel, unlike in other applications
[15:45] <kilopy> wilee-nilee: The phome i'd flash is a samsung corby. It is old and doesn't runs android. By the way, what is the hardware requirement to install android or ubuntu touch? Do you know about it?
[15:45] <iceburned> so, 0erHeks many sites that I visited is malware? including facebook, wordpress, etc?
[15:46] <iceburned> so, OerHeks many sites that I visited is malware? including facebook, wordpress, etc?
[15:46] <OerHeks> iceburned, are you sure they want you to install flash, or silverlight?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: let me search online
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: are you using Unity shell?
[15:48] <iceburned> OerHeks flash
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: if you hit F11 whilst Thunderbird is the window with focus, doe sit help?
[15:50] <OerHeks> iceburned, if you have a working flashplugin, then yes.
[15:50] <OerHeks> show us a screenshot :-)
[15:50] <elbriga> !ubuntu-rox
[15:51] <hubelibub> ActionParsnip, yes i use Unity and hitting f11 doesnt help
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace     does it help?
[15:54] <hubelibub> ActionParsnip: doesnt help
[15:56] <udo> hello how can i install the mate falvoured desktop ?
[15:56] <mixer1> anyone knows what needs hardware accelerated Open GL Rendering Install appropriate graphic driver means?
[15:57] <reisio> udo: 's'called 'mate-desktop', IIRC
[15:57] <reisio> mixer1: hrmm?
[15:57] <udo> reisio, yes this is installed, but it looks like an "old ubuntu" desktop eg ubuntu 10
[15:58] <udo> i would like to have the "normal " mate
[15:58] <OerHeks> udo, that is what mate is, the old desktop for those who do not want gnome3
[15:59] <OerHeks> udo, how different is this to mint+mate?
[15:59] <shunya_chakra> hi I accidently type rm -rf * in my home dir
[15:59] <shunya_chakra> is there way to recover all those things?
[15:59] <udo> OerHeks, im now on mint 17
[15:59] <reisio> udo: 's'probably named something else
[15:59] <reisio> like mint-desktop or something
[15:59] <marscher> shunya_chakra, use your backups
[15:59] <reisio> ask the mint channel on irc.spotchat.org
[16:00] <udo> i updated from release to release
[16:00] <shunya_chakra> marscher, I haven't made :(
[16:00] <OerHeks> udo,  so you complaint is about mint+mate in the ubuntu channel ... fun
[16:00] <shunya_chakra> marscher, is there any command which can undone it?
[16:00] <marscher> shunya_chakra, filesystem?
[16:00] <angry_dude> IF YOU WRITE "REPLACE WINDOWS 7" DON'T WRITE "IT WILL DELETE YOUR DOCUMENTS, PHOTOS AND MUSIC" BUT WRITE "IT'LL WIPE YOUR WHOLE FUCKING HARDDRIVE". AND YES, I HAD A BACKUP.
[16:01] <shunya_chakra> marscher, filesystem???
[16:01] <marscher> like ext4, reiserfs, etc...
[16:01] <udo> OerHeks, i know, but normally with mint there is the xchat installed wich is already configured for a mint irc
[16:01] <shunya_chakra> marscher, how can i know it
[16:01] <udo> but , well something went wrong so i dont know now the mint irc (without  the browser)
[16:02] <marscher> shunya_chakra, mount
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> angry_dude: did your windows partition occupy the entire drive?
[16:02] <reisio> yes, and while you're at it, you better explain how to tie shoe laces every time you say replace windows
[16:02] <nashant> Hey guys. For some reason the installer doesn't see my Marvell SATA controller (which has the 2 SSD disks I want to install it attached)
[16:02] <h00k> angry_dude: please keep the lanauge appropriate for in here, also the caps was a tad excessive
[16:02] <reisio> angry_dude: ubuntu, har :p
[16:02] <shunya_chakra> marscher, ext4 is coming
[16:02] <bazhang> !mintsupport | udo
[16:02] <reisio> nashant: use better installer
[16:02] <nashant> reisio: The server installer shouldn't be enough?
[16:03] <marscher> shunya_chakra, maybe there is way to undelete on ext4, but I do not know it. maybe google helps
[16:03] <shunya_chakra> thanks marscher
[16:03] <marscher> http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[16:03] <udo> ubottu, you have connection settings for irc.spotchat.org
[16:04] <marscher> shunya_chakra, you should stop using the mount point at least, to increase chance to recover stuff
[16:04] <reisio> nashant: are you asking me what you already know?
[16:04] <shunya_chakra> mount point means?
[16:04] <shunya_chakra> marscher,
[16:05] <reisio> nashant: you can always build an install (including placing in custom drivers) in a VM and copy it to metal later
[16:05] <nashant> reisio: I guess I'll try previous versions and see if they have the drivers built in (then dist-upgrade)
[16:05] <marscher> shunya_chakra, i guess you have your home dir resides on the same mount point as root?
[16:06] <shunya_chakra> yup
[16:06] <marscher> so you shouldn't use the system anymore and recover using a livecd
[16:06] <marscher> because with every write to the filesystem you will loose data
[16:07] <shunya_chakra> marscher, this is same like creating extra partition in window like d, e, f
[16:07] <shunya_chakra> creatin other mount
[16:07] <marscher> yes
[16:08] <marscher> like / is C: and your home dir is linked to D: or something
[16:08] <marscher> now this getting ugly :D
[16:08] <shunya_chakra> that's cool, how can i create that
[16:08] <shunya_chakra> marscher?
[16:08] <marscher> you havn't had it as you deleted everything, so now you have to use a livecd
[16:09] <marscher> google partitioning linux
[16:09] <marscher> or separate mointpoint home
[16:09] <iceburned> how to customize conky?
[16:09] <marscher> but actually creating backups should be easier :P
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> iceburned, Tons of this on the web, and a gigantic conky thread at the ubuntu forums.
[16:10] <shunya_chakra> marscher, yup are right from next I'll always back up myd data
[16:10] <h00k> iceburned: there's a .conkyrc file in your home directory, and there's a ton of themes on the forums
[16:10] <h00k> iceburned: ~/.conkyrc
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> iceburned, I would start with someone else's conky build to experiment, it is basically code, there have to be millions out there to try.
[16:12] <UbOne> any good dark ubuntu theme
[16:13] <bazhang> !themes | UbOne have a look
[16:14] <OerHeks> 2222+ pages with conky examples & screenshots http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2279
[16:15] <nashant> is there a terminal I can drop to with the server iso? I want to check syslog
[16:17] <reisio> nashant: CTRL+ALT+F2 (+F7 to go back, usually)
[16:17] <reisio> though it might be F1
[16:18] <nashant> right the first time, thanks :)
[16:18] <domovoi> I am using ubuntu 14.04 , recently updated and now I cant log out  ,  click log off, it does nothing ,   but i can run kill -9 -1 and get back to the lockscreen
[16:20] <stmaher> Hi guys
[16:20] <stmaher> trying to install 14.4 and i get a ubiquity crash when I go to partition the hard drive..
[16:20] <stmaher> Does anyone know of this issue or a workaround?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> stmaher: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> stmaher: if you burned a CD / DVD did you burn as slowly as possible?
[16:21] <stmaher> ActionParsnip I have tried a dvd and a usb pen drive
[16:21] <stmaher> both with the same issue
[16:22] <nashant> any idea how I can diagnose why the 2 disks connected to the second SATA controller aren't being detected? The controller shows up in lspci, is using the AHCI driver and module (lspci -k), and looks to be fine under lspci -vv
[16:22] <reisio> stmaher: try the minimalcd image
[16:22] <reisio> stmaher: or partition with any other live image first
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> hi ho  hi ho it;s off to manual installing I go
[16:24] <stmaher> reisio  will give the minimal cd a go..
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> stmaher: did you MD5 test the image you downloaded?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> nashant: just because a device shows in lspci doent mean it is configured to work
[16:26] <nashant> ActionParsnip: so how would I get it configured to work? If it's using the correct kernel drivers and modules should it not work?
[16:26] <harm> hey I'm trying to connect to the internet with my ac600 USB stick but it is not working
[16:26] <OerHeks> stmaher, is your bios set to protect the mbr?
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> harm, Must be wifi eh? run lsusb and see if it shows.
[16:27] <robotdevil> there is a nice little app that check open connections, its not netstat...
[16:27] <harm> Wilde the USB shows
[16:27] <nashant> ActionParsnip: Or at least how would I go about diagnosing why it's not working?
[16:27] <harm> Willie*
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> nashant: what is the sata chip in use?
[16:27] <harm> on a tablet now
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> harm, You can tab complete nicks, name the wifi hardware to the channel.
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> the exact name
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> stmaher: did you MD5 test the image you downloaded?
[16:28] <nashant> ActionParsnip: Marvel 88SE9172
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> nashant: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:28] <robotdevil> it had a unique name iirc
[16:28] <harm> wilie all it says is sitecom Europe b.v.
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> harm, If the tablet has not tab complete get the nicks spelled right or we are not notified your pinging.
[16:29] <nashant> ActionParsnip: no such file. I'm on the server installer terminal at the moment
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> nashant: ahh I see
[16:29] <stmaher> Interesting.. I think its having difficulty detecting the sata disk
[16:29] <stmaher> fdisk shows /dev/sda however the installer only shows /dev/sdb
[16:29] <stmaher> (sdb being the usb pen drive with the minimal disk on it)
[16:30] <harm> wilie-nilee alright. lsusb shows the hardware is there
[16:30] <stmaher> this was the point where it was crashing on the X GUI installer
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> nashant: which server OS / release are you installing?
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> harm, So do you know if this usb wifi is supposed to work, there are many that plug and play and are cheap.
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> harm, I would not bother with one that did not myself but I'm not you
[16:31] <harm> wiliee-nilee there are Linux drivers on the site.. which didn't make.. and then I tried a work around using a git which also doesn't work.. it make a .KO file but that doesn't work since my adopter doesn't show up
[16:32] <stmaher> would anyone have any idea why the installer isnt picking up both disks? i tried partitioning /dev/sda in fdisk to see if it would pick it up .. however no luck
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> harm, Can I see the site?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> nashant: which image did you use to make the install media?
[16:32] <nashant> ActionParsnip: Well at the moment I'm on 12.04, because I tried 14.04 and it wasn't working. Thought I would try this, but still no love. It looks like I might need to have options ahci marvel_enable=1 in modprobe
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> nashant: try running:     echo 1b4b 917a > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ahci/new_id      it may help (http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/155387/)
[16:33] <harm> wilie-nilee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215827
[16:33] <robotdevil> might have started with the letter b
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> nashant: also found http://theangryangel.co.uk/blog/marvell-88se9172-sata3-under-linux-as-of-320/ saying the same.....
[16:34] <wilee-nilee> harm, How is this related, can you share this?  EDIMAX EW-7811UTC
[16:35] <harm> same as the ac600.. its the model name or something
[16:36] <harm> wilie-nilee same as the ac600 see the website offivial http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=498&pl1_id=28&pl2_id=138
[16:36] <nashant> ActionParsnip: How do I now exit the installer terminal?
[16:36] <nashant> got it
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> harm, I see the relevance now,
[16:37] <mikedevita> hey all, i have an openldap server with users home dirs set as /mnt/home/*.. however on the file server (where the home dirs are hosted via nfs) the path to those home dirs are actually /mnt/vault/home/*. Do you know if i can add an entry into /etc/fstab to sym link /mnt/vault/home to /mnt/home ?
[16:37] <mikedevita> is it mount --bind?
[16:38] <harm> wilie-nilee it goes wrong when I modprobe
[16:38] <harm> wilie-nilee it just won't load the driver or anyway the adopter doesn't show
[16:39] <iceburned> what favorite download manager do you use in ubuntu?
[16:39] <Cheekio> is the 'Disks' utility's format ability still broken in 14.04?
[16:39] <xMopxShell> hey, i just set up a fresh 14.04 install, and activated remote desktop. when I try to log in with any vnc client, i get an error saying: Unknown authType 18
[16:39] <xMopxShell> it seems to be a common issue, but i can't find a fix.
[16:40] <stmaher> Found the problem.. bios was set to use ahci to present the disks to the os.. I swapped that to raid and the installer manager picked it up..
[16:40] <stmaher> wasted 4 hours on this (puke)
[16:40] <stmaher> Im not blaming linux.. its the dodgy hardware its using :-(
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> harm, I can't really help with unpacking a loading with any real finalization of you being set. I will point out though that the helper on the link is one of the best in this area, have you made a thread there?
[16:42] <harm> wilie-nilee no I didn't.. darn.. I'm switching to Ubuntu 12.04 which should work with the drivers from the m!anufactorer
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> harm, Cool you may get help here, you want a few iron's in the fire is all. ;)
[16:44] <harm> wilie-nilee I have been using Ubuntu since harty
[16:44] <harm> wilie-nilee I hope this driver nonsense gets resolved soon.. this is killing me and most normal usets
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> stmaher, Can we curb the emotional diatribe and biased comments, it means nothing to us, and just is a waste of time. ;)
[16:45] <Bruno_> I've installed a game from the software ubuntu center, and i'd like to review it, but when i try to, it opens up a login window, and is forever loading.
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> harm, most normal users was that?
[16:46] <harm> wilie-nilee yeah,. I mean irc and helpers can only do so much
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> harm, Just for the record, broad statements do not fly with me, use what is known to work. I see hardly nothing on this unit and ubuntu on the web.
[16:48] <nashant> ActionParsnip: So is there no chance for me to install onto disks connected to that controller then?
[16:48] <harm> wilie-nilee hmm before this I got a Cisco ae2500 adopter.. also not working on 14.04 I just hope manufacturers get it together soon
[16:49] <daftykins> nashant: does your board not have native SATA 6Gb ports?
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> harm, I would not hold your breath for manufacturers, not a profitable market I suspect, otherwise we would see them more, just a guess though.
[16:50] <nashant> daftykins: It does, but I'm going to be running Xen and need to pass that whole controller through to a VM
[16:51] <daftykins> nashant: ah... good luck, i keep seeing people having issues trying to boot Xen kernels under modern ubuntus
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> nashant: not sure
[16:51] <Bruno_> hi all . I've installed a game from the software ubuntu center, and i'd like to review it, but when i try to, it opens up a login window, and is forever loading.
[16:52] <nashant> daftykins: Well this is a bloody nightmare then. I really need to get a GPU passed through to another VM and it's just not working on XenServer
[16:52] <daftykins> Bruno_: version? are you fully updated?
[16:52] <Bruno_> I am fully updated running the latest version of xubuntu.
[16:53] <daftykins> nashant: well, Xen is not the #1 virt tech for ubuntu, i believe KVM is. it really depends what you're trying to achieve
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> harm, Might be worth checking out, http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_14/183-5855483-1001157?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=wifi%20usb%20linux&sprefix=wifi+usb+linux%2Caps%2C630
[16:53] <daftykins> Bruno_: close it and then run it from a terminal to watch any debug output
[16:54] <nashant> daftykins: Doesn't really make much difference if I can't install ubuntu. Which at the moment seems to be the situation.
[16:54] <Bruno_> daftykins how do i run it from a terminal?
[16:54] <daftykins> nashant: you kind of jumped from talking about controller passthrough to GPU passthrough, which was quite confusing
[16:55] <daftykins> Bruno_: try "software-center"
[16:55] <harm> wilie-nilee nice.. but I live in NL so can't order on amazon and I like stores
[16:55] <harm> wilie-nilee thanks for your help.. I will try with Ubuntu 12.04
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> harm, Stores are fine, however researching is a good idea.
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> any store is not going to be linux centric is all
[16:57] <nashant> daftykins: Sorry about that. I've got a SATA controller passed through to one VM, which works perfectly, and I'm trying to pass through my Radeon HD6450 to another, which isn't working at all
[16:58] <Bruno_> daftykins: bruno@bruno-MS-7848:~$ software-center 2014-05-30 18:56:19,001 - softwarecenter.backend.zeitgeist_logger - WARNING - Support for Zeitgeist disabled 2014-05-30 18:56:19,048 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.app - INFO - setting up proxy 'None' 2014-05-30 18:56:19,198 - softwarecenter.region - WARNING - failed to use geoclue: 'org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Geoclue.Master was not provided by any .s
[16:58] <daftykins> nashant: i take it you have multiple graphics cards to be trying to do that?
[16:58] <daftykins> !paste | Bruno_
[16:58] <Bruno_> !paste
[16:58] <daftykins> Bruno_: you don't repeat the bot trigger, you read what ubottu said
[16:58] <luke__> hey, i have a problem with my pm-hibernate. I run it and after a WOL message i send it doesnt boot finally up
[16:58] <nashant> daftykins: Yeah, got an nvidia 210 for the dom0
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/358491/unable-to-turn-on-recommendations-in-ubuntu-software-center
[16:58] <luke__> i need to press ENTER on keyboard, after this the system strarts
[16:59] <luke__> any idea why? i dont want to press ENTER after wol on hibernation
[16:59] <luke__> cant find any google hit about this
[16:59] <Bruno_> ill try that ACtionParsnip
[17:00] <luke__> right after i press enter the systgem finally boots up. never before
[17:00] <daftykins> nashant: ah ok, i'd guess that's more Xen help related than ubuntu, as Xen isn't the #1 virt tech as mentioned. i'm not sure if they have any channels or networks to ask in
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: took me seconds to find
[17:02] <nashant> daftykins: I've been sat in #xen for days. At the moment still no luck. Got suggested to try the latest and greatest on Ubuntu. That's out. Unless I get a pci-e sata controller, I guess
[17:02] <Bruno_> OMG it worked. So the problem is I didnt have a package installed?
[17:02] <Bruno_> the ubuntu-sso-client-qt package
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: looks that way
[17:03] <daftykins> nashant: 'out' ? as in a latest ubuntu version and dom0 kernel?
[17:03] <Bruno_> Weird. very weird. Thanks anyway. :)
[17:03] <nashant> out as in off, can't do it.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: havent you seen that page though....?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=failed+to+use+geoclue+ubuntu   2nd link down.....
[17:05] <xMopxShell> hey, i just set up a fresh 14.04 install, and activated remote desktop. when I try to log in with any vnc client, i get an error saying something like: Unknown authType 18. How can I fix this?
[17:06] <daftykins> xMopxShell: first google result - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220275
[17:07] <xMopxShell> daftykins: already been there, didn't work. I wouldnt be asking here if it had.
[17:08] <daftykins> xMopxShell: so you applied *both* parts including the dconf one?
[17:08] <daftykins> xMopxShell: also, you'd be surprised at the number of questions we get from those unwilling to help themselves, so please don't be too frustrated
[17:09] <xMopxShell> simply telling people to go google things isn't what irc is for :-)
[17:09] <OerHeks> it takes a reboot for vnc to work, right?
[17:09] <specing> Hello, are there non-desktop daily images available? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ only lists desktop ones...
[17:10] <daftykins> xMopxShell: volunteer helpers are not a substitute for google. now please stop sharing your opinions
[17:10] <xMopxShell> oh, so you're one of those zealots. Ok.
[17:11] <daftykins> i'm sorry that you've taken such offence, but if we can get back on topic now that would be great.
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> mmmm entitlement
[17:11] <daftykins> so, have you followed both pieces of advice in that forum thread?
[17:11] <OerHeks> specing, daily server ?
[17:11] <trism> specing: there are a variety: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[17:12] <OerHeks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[17:12] <jtane> hello, i'm trying to ensure a storage device is disconnected by doing echo 1 > /sys/block/device-name/device/delete, but i'm getting '-bash: No such file or directory'
[17:12] <OerHeks> specing, that would be 14.10, alfa
[17:12] <intok> How do you remove the amazon etc stuff from 14.04?
[17:13] <reisio> jtane: use tab to complete the path, and you'll know it's a real path
[17:13] <OerHeks> intok, just disable it in settings > privacy
[17:13] <reisio> jtane: also you'd probably have to use sudo
[17:13] <specing> should I go "cloud-live" or "server" for running in a VM?
[17:13] <reisio> specing: for doing what?
[17:13] <compdoc> well, /sys/block/device-name/device/delete does sound like an example more than an actual device
[17:13] <reisio> a... server?
[17:13] <specing> Do the kernels/userlands differ between desktop, cloud-live and server?
[17:14] <jtane> reisio: thanks, i have done both to no avail - ps. the storage is a xen vbd, if that matters
[17:14] <specing> reisio: testing LXC user namespace virtualization
[17:14] <reisio> specing: if you don't know how they differ, then you don't need something named after a buzzword like cloud
[17:14] <daftykins> specing: kernels no longer differ between desktop and server, no
[17:14] <specing> and base utilities/userspace?
[17:14] <specing> should I go "cloud-live" or "server"?
[17:14] <intok> OerHeks I want to completely uninstall it, I found how to in 14.04 before when I installed 14.04 on a previous system, but DDG and Google are currently failing me this time around
[17:15] <daftykins> specing: all the same repos i think. please don't repeat yourself.
[17:16] <reisio> intok: dpkg -l | grep -i lens
[17:16] <reisio> intok: it's one of those
[17:22] <jtane> compdoc: sorry i did not paste the real name of the device as i thought it would not be helpful
[17:22] <jtane> buit i am sure the device path was correct
[17:22] <jtane> i can list the contents with ls
[17:23] <compdoc> ok, just making sure
[17:23] <jtane> the device folder contains: block  devtype  driver  modalias  nodename  power  subsystem  uevent
[17:25] <jtane> can anyone point me to good docs on how the /sys/block filesystem works / how to use?
[17:29] <reisio> jtane: pretty much how the command you got makes use of it
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> jtane: asking in #linux may be useful too
[17:29] <reisio> jtane: only the path has to be real
[17:29] <reisio> jtane: and you'll probably need sudo, as already explained
[17:30] <jtane> ActionParsnip: ok will try that
[17:31] <jtane> reisio: as mentioned, i am root :-)
[17:32] <shunya_chakra> hi when will this bug will be fixed
[17:32] <shunya_chakra> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1290847
[17:32] <reisio> jtane: then you're good
[17:32] <shunya_chakra> ubottu
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, Ask them we would not know.
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> this is a volunteer situation is all
[17:38] <shunya_chakra> wilee-nilee, who ?
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, Not sure my self, I think the key word is patience. ;)
[17:40] <shunya_chakra> ok wilee-nilee, :) "Keep calm and wait for fix."
[17:40] <shunya_chakra> is there dev channel of ubuntu?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, Yeah #ubuntu-dev not sure if it's open I think it is
[17:41] <ikonia> shunya_chakra: hassling in the #ubuntu-dev channel is not wise though
[17:41] <ikonia> it's not for that sort of discussion
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, That channel is wrong let me look closer
[17:41] <ikonia> its devel
[17:41] <genii> -devel not -dev
[17:41] <ikonia> but it's still not the right channel
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> cool, good advice on hassling
[17:41] <reisio> yay
[17:43] <shunya_chakra> ok I'll ask there :)
[17:43] <daftykins> ban in 3...2..
[17:43] <shunya_chakra> thanks!!!
[17:43] <ikonia> errr no
[17:43] <ikonia> please re-read what I just said
[17:43] <ikonia> shunya_chakra: it is not that sort of channel, don't ask there
[17:44] <shunya_chakra> ikonia, ok, then i'll not ask
[17:45] <jtane> PRIVMSG: it'd be great if i just had my own datacenter!
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest12575
[17:49] <ddr9> pls someone help me in this, i can only run ubuntu 14.04 in Recovery mode
[17:49] <daftykins> ddr9: please give more detail
[17:49] <ddr9> i have installed 14.04LTS (64bit) dual boot with Windows8
[17:50] <daftykins> ddr9: try and keep it on few lines :)
[17:51] <ddr9> when i try to load ubuntu, it shows two options: "Ubuntu,with LInux3.13.0-24-generic" and Linux in recovery mode
[17:51] <ddr9> the one not in recovery mode does not load, while the other loads to terminal screen
[17:52] <daftykins> ddr9: does the former stay as a black screen? what kind of graphics hardware do you have?
[17:52] <daftykins> !nomodeset | ddr9 give this a go
[17:53] <ddr9> the thing is, to make ubuntu work, i need to type in reinstall ubuntu desktop command, and reboot, after which though it loads, but then heating occurs
[17:54] <ddr9> i am trying that nomodeset thing, thanks for helping
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> !away > timrc-afk
[17:59] <ddr9> daftykins: i have integrated intel graphic card driver and ati also
[18:02] <daftykins> ddr9: ah, AMD hybrid setup?
[18:02] <daftykins> ddr9: is that a laptop?
[18:03] <ddr9> daftykins: yes its a laptop
[18:03] <n00b_dust> daftykins, wouldn't that be an intel hybrid setup?
[18:03] <daftykins> n00b_dust: don't split hairs
[18:03] <daftykins> ddr9: ok, you might have BIOS settings to explicitly pick which one to use?
[18:04] <ddr9> daftykins: in win8, i don't need to, but yes there r options in BIOS
[18:04] <OerHeks> ddr9, disabled fastboot?
[18:04] <ddr9> yes while installing, and right now also fastboot is disabled
[18:04] <daftykins> ddr9: yes, this is no surprise for Windows. can you check what model of AMD it is?
[18:07] <bodom> Hi there. I can't stop mysqld, may anybody help me?
[18:07] <reisio> bodom: how'd you try?
[18:08] <bodom> reisio: /etc/init.d/mysql stop or kill <pid>; it keeps respawning
[18:08] <jirido> Hi! Does someone know if there is a program that extracts all hex color values in a file and display them as colors? preferably with option to change them with a color chooser of some cind?
[18:09] <ddr9> daftykins: AMD Radeon HD 8570M
[18:09] <daftykins> ddr9: did nomodeset help?
[18:10] <ddr9> daftykins: wait, i didn't try I'll restart and reply
[18:10] <reisio> bodom: sudo service mysql stop?
[18:10] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[18:11] <ddr9> daftykins: but the link that you gave is a very old one
[18:11] <bodom> reisio: that says "unknown job"
[18:12] <reisio> bodom: what init system are you using?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Ddr9: if it still applies,  what does age have to do with it
[18:12] <bodom> reisio: is there a choice? The default one, I suppose
[18:13] <reisio> uhuh...
[18:13] <reisio> bodom: what version of Ubuntu?
[18:13] <ddr9> ActionParsnip: but how do I change it? ubuntu is already installed on a separate drive
[18:13] <bodom> reisio: crappy upstart should be in charge, 14,04
[18:14] <reisio> k
[18:14] <daftykins> ddr9: age doesn't prevent nomodeset being relevant nor the method being correct
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Ddr9: change what?
[18:14] <reisio> maybe it's not called 'mysql' then
[18:14] <reisio> perhaps mysqld or something, ls /etc/init.d/ | grep -i my
[18:14] <daftykins> mysqld
[18:14] <pdo_fn14> Get annoyed when playing with lazarus package, I got blamed why fpc package warned myself arch incompatibility.
[18:14] <OerHeks> sudo service mysql stop should work fine, sudo service mysql status # what is running?
[18:14] <bodom> reisio: "service --status-all" says it is called mysql, but then it says "unknown job"
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Ddr9 : hold SHIFT at boot and press E to (e)dit the boot.  Remove the default options "quiet splash" and add "nomodeset" press ENTER to continue the boot
[18:15] <bodom> OerHeks: unknown job
[18:15] <bodom> even if i kill it, something keeps respawning it
[18:15] <OerHeks> bodom, check 'top' for zombie processes
[18:16] <ikonia> bodom: is it re-spawning with the same ID or a different ID
[18:16] <ikonia> bodom: what process are you killing, mysqld or the controlling mysqld-safe
[18:16] <bodom> OerHeks: no zombies
[18:17] <Burrito> Is setting swappiness supposed to have immediate effect? Or do I have to restart something? I set it via sysctl.
[18:17] <Burrito> (I set it to 100 for experimentation)
[18:17] <bodom> ikonia: different pid, i am killing mysqld, i have no mysqld-safe process
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Burrito: how did you set it?
[18:17] <ikonia> bodom: that sounds like it's not been started by the init system then
[18:17] <Burrito> ActionParsnip, sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=100
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : then it's active now
[18:18] <bodom> ikonia: unless something got broke during some upgrade, I am pretty sure I didn't customize it
[18:18] <ikonia> bodom: can you please pastebin the output of "ps -ef | grep mysql"
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : could try: sudo sysctl -p
[18:19] <Burrito> ActionParsnip, I saw a small percentage spike in my swap usage, but RAM is still 77% (was 80%). Am I under the wrong impression if I say that it should be moving most of the stuff in RAM to SWAP?
[18:19] <bodom> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/V9QPae8U
[18:19] <theadmin> Burrito: You are. Swap should be used when you're really out of RAM
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : as I understand it,  yes
[18:19] <ikonia> bodom: talk me through how you would kill that process
[18:19] <Burrito> theadmin, hm, regardless of swappiness setting? :<
[18:20] <theadmin> Burrito: muh. Well, question is, why would you want to decrease RAM usage? RAM will free up as necessary
[18:20] <theadmin> But it would provide better performance than a hard drive
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : ram will be used for running applications
[18:20] <bodom> ikonia: kill -9 17351
[18:20] <bodom> ikonia: i now have a 18357 mysqld
[18:20] <theadmin> bodom: Err, you don't kill services, use "service mysql stop"
[18:20] <ikonia> bodom: is this physical or a virtual host
[18:21] <bodom> ikonia: physical
[18:21] <ikonia> bodom: what is the processs 18357
[18:21] <Burrito> theadmin, partly for experimentation of how swappiness works, and *that* is because a friend of mine is having trouble with stuff moving to swap slowly, leading to far worse performance of some applications (games) on Linux than on Windows, because of resource management differences (things moving from RAM to SWAP at the very, very last resort on Linux)
[18:22] <bodom> ikonia: it's the new mysql that respawned after i killed the old one
[18:22] <Burrito> Player- ^
[18:22] <ikonia> bodom: that is mysql - the client, not th eserver
[18:22] <ikonia> server
[18:22] <ikonia> bodom: look at the difference, mysqld - mysql, they are differnet binaries
[18:22] <ikonia> bodom: is process 8539 your shell ?
[18:23] <theadmin> Burrito: How much RAM is the machine having?
[18:23] <bodom> ikonia: i also had a client running, yes, but i can just "quit" it
[18:23] <ikonia> bodom: ok, so kill the mysqld process, then repaste ps -ef | grep mysql please
[18:23] <Burrito> theadmin, I have 4 GB of RAM, said friend has 3 GB
[18:23] <bodom> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/f45y0bEf
[18:24] <theadmin> Burrito: hm yeah, that's not a whole lot
[18:24] <Burrito> theadmin, I'd agree, but the performance on Windows appears way better for him. I'm interested in the differences in resource management which cause this.
[18:24] <Burrito> And whether it can be remedied
[18:24] <theadmin> Burrito: Are you sure it's not, say, the video driver?
[18:25] <ikonia> bodom: can you show me the output of uname -a please
[18:25] <bodom> ikonia: Linux <hostname> 3.13.0-27-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 15 18:06:16 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:25] <Burrito> theadmin, maybe. I actually had the same problem before I got an SSD, and simply managed by closing "fat" programs like Firefox. In his case, on Windows, he can leave programs like that running and they would be moved to the page file rather quickly - according to him.
[18:27] <Burrito> theadmin, also he had an indicator open - swap would receive zero usage until Linux completely runs out of RAM. This is *different* in my case because even with a swappiness of 5, my swap space is being used at 27% even though there is no (and was no) "last resort" situation
[18:27] <ikonia> bodom: most odd,
[18:27] <Burrito> theadmin, he is known as Player- in this channel, but is probably on a different device right now
[18:27] <theadmin> Burrito: Well, yes, swappiness will increase swap use, no doubt
[18:29] <bodom> ikonia: my bet is that something in the odd upstart keeps respawning mysql. Maybe some "security hook" that I never asked for.
[18:29] <ikonia> bodom: I don't believe thats the cast
[18:29] <ikonia> case
[18:30] <bodom> ikonia: I think I'll just warn all users and try a reboot. Thank you very much for your time anyway
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : try a lighter session like XFCE
[18:31] <ikonia> bodom: it's worth checking the init script to see if it "should" still spawn from mysqld_safe or not
[18:31] <ikonia> that would be a bit of info worth knowing
[18:32] <bodom> ikonia: test -x /usr/bin/mysqld_safe || exit 0
[18:32] <ikonia> bodom: ok, so thats interesting that it's not there on your system
[18:32] <bodom> ikonia: but i don't know if upstart really calls this script or a different one
[18:33] <bodom> ikonia: because i also have an /etc/init/mysql.conf
[18:34] <diddledan> mysql on trusty is started directly using /usr/sbin/mysqld
[18:35] <Player-> Hi, I'm here now.  Yeah Burrito descibed my situation, I guess no one has a solution?  I verified that the swap partition is declared properly in the fstab, so in short of throwing swappiness up to 100 I'm out of ideas.
[18:35] <bodom> diddledan: mhhh... by which script?
[18:35] <diddledan> bodom, upstart
[18:36] <diddledan> it looks like the init.d script hasn't been converted
[18:36] <bodom> diddledan: upstart is like a muddler kid to me, how can I check if the correct script is in place?
[18:37] <someHuman> Gah!
[18:37] <someHuman> I hate how Firefox performs now! -_-
[18:37] <someHuman> It's sketchy!
[18:37] <bodom> I still have /etc/init.d/mysql
[18:38] <Burrito> someHuman, same :( especially flash
[18:38] <Burrito> someHuman, but I, for one, welcome the new look :V
[18:38] <diddledan> bodom, yeah that script is incorrect
[18:38] <bodom> diddledan: what do you mean?
[18:38] <someHuman> Burrito: Yup, perhaps that's why it's sketchy. It's being renovated.
[18:38] <Burrito> someHuman, try out PaleMoon if you're upset with what the current version of Firefox is doing. I haven't tried it yet.
[18:39] <someHuman> I just got back to Firefox from Google Chrome so I have no idea what happened to Firefox lately.
[18:39] <bigred15> Firefox went cray-cray
[18:40] <bodom> I also have a different mysql server. I can confirm I can't stop mysql even there
[18:40] <aalp4> How does one change an ssh-server login password?
[18:40] <diddledan> bodom /etc/init.d scripts should all have been replaced with equivalents that do nothing by themselves but prompt the admin to use the `service` utility which will call upstart or fallback to the init.d script if there isn't an upstart job for it (to allow legacy uses)
[18:40] <aalp4> I know how to change the root password...
[18:41] <someHuman> bigred15: It seems.
[18:41] <diddledan> aalp4 the password you use for ssh is the same as you would use sat at the console
[18:42] <bigred15> someHuman: That said Chromium isn't much better with the 80 size font in the URL bar :\
[18:42] <aalp4> diddledan, i changed the password using sudo passwd at the console
[18:42] <aalp4> maybe i need to restart?
[18:43] <diddledan> aalp4 no, you don't need to restart
[18:43] <aalp4> damn, the password isn't changing for ssh
[18:43] <diddledan> aalp4 if you set a password using `sudo passwd` that will change the password for the user called "root" so you need to tell your ssh client to login as root
[18:44] <aalp4> what if i want it to login to my user?
[18:44] <aalp4> should i type in sudo passwd [username] diddledan?
[18:45] <diddledan> aalp4 then you need to use the password assigned to your user account
[18:45] <aalp4> to change my user account password then that is sudo passwd [username]?
[18:45] <diddledan> aalp4 instead of running `sudo passwd` then run `passwd`
[18:45] <aalp4> oh
[18:45] <aalp4> thanks
[18:46] <diddledan> aalp4 at a pinch `sudo passwd username` works but seems like pointless recursion
[18:46] <reisio> either would work
[18:46] <reisio> yeah :p
[18:46] <aalp4> doing sudo passwd seems to do nothing at all
[18:46] <aalp4> for example if i do sudo apt-get update
[18:47] <aalp4> it still asks me for my previous password
[18:47] <aalp4> and sudo apt-get update uses root password i thought
[18:47] <diddledan> sudo uses your user account's password
[18:47] <aalp4> oh, i didn't know that
[18:47] <diddledan> su requires the target user's (e.g. root) password
[18:47] <aalp4> aha
[18:48] <diddledan> sudo was invented after su and was designed specifically to allow delegation of privilege rather than "giving bob the password for alice's account"
[18:49] <reisio> even though that's how Ubuntu misuses it :)
[18:49] <diddledan> reisio, no, ubuntu uses it correctly
[18:50] <reisio> nope, it uses it in a fashion directly at odds with sudo's purpose as outlined on their site
[18:50] <reisio> also, it doesn't always ask for the password :)
[18:50] <diddledan> reisio, you don't need root's password to perform admin functions
[18:50] <reisio> diddledan: right, all admin functions
[18:50] <reisio> which is not what sudo was meant for
[18:51] <taithefox> Hi! Is anyone familiar with installing grub with lvm?
[18:51] <diddledan> reisio, from sudo's site: "Sudo (su "do") allows a system administrator to delegate authority to give certain users (or groups of users) the ability to run some (or all) commands as root or another user while providing an audit trail of the commands and their arguments."
[18:51] <phunyguy> taithefox, in Ubuntu, that should "just work"
[18:51] <diddledan> reisio, in this case you've delegated authority for admin access to your own user-level account
[18:52] <phunyguy> if not, you may have to trigger an initramfs rebuild
[18:52] <taithefox> It's more of a generic linux thing in this case. I'm a sysadmin at a university and the last sysadmin did a really weird setup on a mac with a ton of partitions
[18:52] <taithefox> anywhoo
[18:52] <reisio> awe that's sad, they must have changed their site to not confuse Ubuntu users visiting it :p
[18:52] <wN> taithefox: there is a #grub
[18:52] <taithefox> professor upgraded his fedora installation and it broke grub
[18:52] <taithefox> oh really?
[18:52] <reisio> anyways, archive.org reveals all :p
[18:52] <phunyguy> taithefox, ##linux may be better, as I said, it just works on ubuntu.
[18:52] <taithefox> I might try there
[18:52] <reisio> plus it's obviously the wrong way to use it, heh
[18:52] <phunyguy> or yes, #grub
[18:52] <taithefox> it doesn't _always_ work on ubuntu lmao
[18:53] <wN> it should always work on fedora too.
[18:53] <wN> xD
[18:53] <wN> and i dont think you can install grub to lvm. you still install it to your boot disk
[18:53] <phunyguy> taithefox, hence why I said you may have to trigger an initramfs rebuild to build in the lvm hooks.
[18:53] <phunyguy> that is the case on any distro, just typically ubuntu does a good job of that when you install lvm.
[18:54] <aalp4> diddledan: is there a way to install ubuntu base security updates over ssh logged into user account?
[18:54] <diddledan> aalp4 only if that user has the root password or enough privilege to use sudo
[18:54] <phunyguy> taithefox, also, there is #fedora
[18:55] <aalp4> sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't install the security updates diddledan :/
[18:55] <aalp4> it holds them back
[18:55] <wN> also, did you say this was on a mac??
[18:55] <diddledan> "held back" is a different problem
[18:56] <aalp4> yeah, i'm installing it via a gui now
[18:56] <reisio> diddledan: first para :p http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/readme.html
[18:56] <diddledan> you can install "held back" packages with apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:56] <aalp4> does upgrading the ubuntu base security updates count as a dist-upgrade diddledan?
[18:56] <diddledan> reisio, I fail to see why that's "at odds" with the way ubuntu uses it
[18:56] <reisio> Ubuntu gives all of root
[18:57] <reisio> not "as few privileges as possible"
[18:57] <diddledan> reisio, _somebody_ needs all of root
[18:57] <reisio> yup
[18:57] <phunyguy> diddledan, especially when root password is randomized.
[18:57] <rio_zenta> Hello
[18:57] <reisio> and we've always had su for that
[18:57] <phunyguy> also, growing more and more offtopic.
[18:57] <reisio> phunyguy: ha
[18:57] <reisio> rio_zenta: 'lo
[18:58] <rio_zenta> Under a wubi install, you get a menu before the grub menu that allows you to choose either windows or ubuntu, how do I customize this?
[18:58] <aalp4> diddledan i'm on 13.10, and would like to update ubuntu-base, but not  switch to 14.04, is there a way to do that?
[18:58] <diddledan> rio_zenta that's windows' own bootloader
[18:58] <phunyguy> rio_zenta, depends on what you want to customize
[18:59] <rio_zenta> phunyguy: I just want to change the order from: Windows, Ubuntu to: Ubuntu, Windows. Basically, I want ubuntu first, so that it can boot into it without me needing to select it.
[18:59] <diddledan> aalp4 `apt-get upgrade` or `apt-get dist-upgrade` won't change which release of ubuntu you have installed unless you mess with the sources.list
[18:59] <phunyguy> rio_zenta, if what diddledan is saying is true, you need to edit boot.ini on the windows drive
[18:59] <reisio> rio_zenta: download easybcd
[19:00] <phunyguy> (I think it's called boot.ini)
[19:00] <rio_zenta> reisio, download that in windows or ubuntu?
[19:00] <aalp4> oh that's good to know diddledan thanks, i guess i should always include a dist-upgrade with an  apt-get upgrade to stay secure
[19:00] <diddledan> phunyguy, it used to be in xp's time. vista came up with the "bcd" which is an evil thing
[19:00] <phunyguy> oh even better, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff543428%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[19:01] <aalp4> it's weird that i never get "held-back" packages on my 14.04 machine just using apt-get upgrade
[19:01] <rio_zenta> diddledan, the PC I'm using has windows XP
[19:01] <reisio> rio_zenta: windows
[19:01] <diddledan> >.<
[19:01] <phunyguy> aalp4, with that said, apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade don't differentiate between security and normal updates... the only way to only install security updates afaik is to use the automatic updates feature.
[19:02] <aalp4> phunyguy: how do i do that on a cli via ssh?
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[19:03] <rio_zenta> diddledan: :-/
[19:03] <phunyguy> aalp4, you can't afaik
[19:03] <phunyguy> but I usually enable automatic security updates to happen every day without a reboot.
[19:03] <aalp4> so i can't stay secure using ssh :( phunyguy
[19:04] <phunyguy> let me try to remember the name of the package that handles the automatic updates
[19:04] <aalp4> oh, i should enable auto-updates then
[19:04] <diddledan> aalp4, dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades OR apt-get install unattended-upgrades
[19:04] <phunyguy> unattended-upgrades, there it is
[19:04] <aalp4> awesome!
[19:04] <aalp4> i wonder why that command isn't well known?
[19:04] <phunyguy> there are config files with excellent documentation within, and it runs via cron every day.
[19:04] <phunyguy> you just tell it the interval of days to install, etc
[19:05] <diddledan> aalp4, if the first one says the package isn't installed then run the second
[19:05] <aalp4> ok
[19:05] <diddledan> phunyguy, I'd forgotten the name of it too, but I have plenty of installs with it enabled so I just ssh'd into one of those (ok, I was already ssh'd into it)
[19:08] <Elouise> Hai
[19:08] <Elouise> Can someone help me? XD
[19:08] <phunyguy> hello
[19:08] <phunyguy> We need to know what you need help with....
[19:08] <reisio> Elouise: done
[19:08] <aalp4> diddledan, if I use, "dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades and apt-get install unattended-upgrades", should i never have to use dist-upgrade?
[19:08] <Elouise> Okay so. This happened like 4 times now.
[19:09] <Elouise> and I had to re-download Ubuntu just to make my WiFi connection work.
[19:09] <phunyguy> aalp4, you can configure it as such.
[19:09] <syeekick>  i set the hotkey in the bottom left part of my screen to spread all windows, its nifty as popsicles. I was wondering if there is a way to leave it in that format as they tile really well. i Don't want it to click and focus i want ti to stay as it is
[19:09] <Elouise> Yesterday,  I was in a hotel.. My WiFi wasn't working. Took my like 2 hours to figure out how to fix it.
[19:09] <syeekick> its quite hard to explain what i want done
[19:09] <Elouise> Now I just got home, WiFi isn't working again.
[19:09] <Elouise> I forgot how to fix it.
[19:09] <Elouise> :[
[19:10] <phunyguy> Elouise, careful with the enter key or unopaste will mute you
[19:10] <Elouise> Sorry.
[19:10] <phunyguy> Elouise, any idea what wifi hardware you have?
[19:10] <Elouise> So do you want me to say those in just 1 line?
[19:10] <aalp4> phunyguy because right now my plan to keep my system updated via ssh is 1. apt-get update 2. apt-get upgrade 3. dist-upgrade 4. dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades, and if needed 5. dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades
[19:10] <aalp4> is this the correct way?
[19:10] <phunyguy> Elouise, yeah just say as much as you can in one line.
[19:11] <phunyguy> aalp4, I think you are getting confused as to what the unattended-upgrade commands are
[19:11] <Elouise> What do you mean by "WiFi hardware?"
[19:11] <phunyguy> Elouise, make and model?
[19:11] <Elouise> model of my connection?
[19:11] <aalp4> sorry
[19:11] <phunyguy> aalp4, all those last commands do is install the package that performs the upgrades or configures it.
[19:11] <aalp4> need  to reword that
[19:12] <phunyguy> Elouise, no, what the actual hardware model is... Intel.. Broadcom... etc
[19:12] <rio_zenta> It's most likely a broadcom
[19:12] <rio_zenta> somebody gave a nice command yesterday to check for your hardware in terminal. I can't recall it.
[19:12] <phunyguy> Elouise, open a terminal and type "lspci | grep Wireless" and see if anything pops up
[19:13] <rio_zenta> that's the one phunyguy
[19:13] <Actionparsnip> Elouise: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will be shown
[19:13] <Elouise> Kk
[19:13] <aalp4> phunyguy, is there a series of commands i can use without fail every time to update my system via cli ssh
[19:13] <aalp4> if so in what order?
[19:13] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : as you type your password you will get no feedback
[19:13] <phunyguy> aalp4, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will do it
[19:13] <Actionparsnip> aalp4: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:14] <aalp4> ok so there's reallly no need for dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades OR apt-get install unattended-upgrades?
[19:14] <phunyguy> but if you want to automate it, use the unattended-upgrade software to do it.
[19:14] <Elouise> it says
[19:14] <phunyguy> aalp4, again, those commands just install the service that performs the updates automatically
[19:14] <Elouise> lshw: command nto found
[19:14] <aalp4> ohhh
[19:14] <aalp4> i misunderstood
[19:14] <aalp4> i see
[19:14] <phunyguy> I know :)
[19:14] <aalp4> got it :)
[19:14] <Elouise> not found*
[19:15] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : if you run: cat /etc/issue ,what is output?
[19:15] <Elouise> No such file/directory
[19:15] <phunyguy> ...are you on Ubuntu?
[19:15] <Elouise> Yes
[19:15] <diddledan> o_O
[19:15] <Elouise> o
[19:15] <Elouise> there it is
[19:16] <Elouise> I got um. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[19:16] <Actionparsnip> Elouise did you put a space between the word "cat" and "/etc/issue"
[19:16] <Elouise> Mhm
[19:16] <Actionparsnip> Elouise spaces are important
[19:16] <Elouise> I got um. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[19:16] <aalp4> thanks all!
[19:16] <phunyguy> aalp4, cheers
[19:16] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : ok run: sudo lshw -C network
[19:17] <Elouise> it says
[19:17] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : there is a space afer the word "sudo" a space after "lshq" and one after "-C"
[19:17] <Elouise> sudo: lshw: command not found
[19:18] <phunyguy> sudo apt-get install lshw
[19:18] <Elouise> Well I dont have wifi connection
[19:18] <Elouise> I mean I do
[19:18] <phunyguy> doh.
[19:18] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : its LSHW in lower case. Are you running ISHW ?
[19:18] <phunyguy> do you have a plug to hardwire?
[19:18] <Elouise> but it won't just work on this laptop.
[19:18] <phunyguy> Actionparsnip, it may not be installed by default, it wasn't on the box I am on
[19:19] <Elouise> I have a plug, but I'm using an acer chromebook c720
[19:19] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy: lshw is default installed in Ubuntu
[19:19] <Elouise> if I do iwconfig would that help?
[19:19] <diddledan> phunyguy, it's there on a server I run which was installed from minimal
[19:19] <rio_zenta> I've had headaches with Acer too.
[19:19] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : that wont help as ot won't tell you the wifi chip
[19:20] <Elouise> wifi chip
[19:20] <Elouise> hmm
[19:20] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : can you get a wired connection and run updates?
[19:20] <Elouise> nope :[
[19:20] <phunyguy> Elouise, lspci will show it
[19:21] <Elouise> there
[19:21] <phunyguy> but that lists all hardware
[19:21] <OerHeks> Elouise, what machine is this, Surface 2?
[19:21] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : ok ill do the command in upper case and when I write [space] hit spacebar, don't type it
[19:21] <Elouise> Okay.
[19:22] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : SUDO [space] LSHW [space] -C [space] NETWORK
[19:23] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : the line next to the C is a minus sign or hyphen
[19:23] <Elouise> sudo: lshw: command not found
[19:24] <Actionparsnip> Can someone please give me the output of: which lshw
[19:24] <phunyguy> Actionparsnip, it is missing because it is not installed by default... I just said that
[19:24] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy: it is.  I've used ot in trusty...
[19:24] <phunyguy> I just had to install it...
[19:24] <Elouise> is it the Network Controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter
[19:25] <phunyguy> that's it
[19:25] <Elouise> That's it?
[19:25] <phunyguy> that's the output we are looking for
[19:25] <Elouise> Alright lol
[19:25] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy : funny how Elouise just ran it then huh...
[19:25] <Elouise> Actionparsnip:
[19:25] <Elouise> Actually phuny told me to do a command, which showed lots of hardwares
[19:25] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy : on a default install with no web access post install
[19:26] <Elouise> and obv, I saw "Network Controller," so I thought it might be the one.
[19:26] <phunyguy> atheros is usually really good :(   Is there a Fn key to switch it off and on?
[19:26] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy : how is that possible
[19:26] <phunyguy> Actionparsnip, no idea.  Anyway, we got what we needed
[19:26] <Elouise> "lspci."
[19:26] <phunyguy> Elouise, some laptops have keys to turn antenna off and on, does yours?
[19:26] <Elouise> Nope
[19:26] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy : its possible because its default installed using the install CD
[19:27] <phunyguy> hrrmmm...
[19:27] <phunyguy> Elouise, a restart doesn't fix it I take it?
[19:27] <Actionparsnip> As is evident
[19:27] <Elouise> Yeah I rebooted it so many times, researched on google, etc..
[19:28] <phunyguy> Elouise, hang tight for a second
[19:28] <zh1> Elouise, model brand lappie
[19:28] <Elouise> Acer Chromebook C720
[19:29] <murosai> does anyone have experience using xrandr to control video output?
[19:29] <murosai> im trying to send output to my tv that has bigger resolution than laptop
[19:30] <melle> whats up here?
[19:32] <phunyguy> yeah I found an image of the keyboard, sure enough, there is no wifi button
[19:32] <Elouise> :s
[19:33] <phunyguy> Elouise, did you possibly disable wireless by accident in the menu that is associated with the network icon in panel?
[19:33] <Elouise> What does that mean
[19:34] <phunyguy> Elouise, the icon you usually click on to connect to a wireless network, there are options in there to disable wireless, and also disable networking completely.
[19:34] <Elouise> sec
[19:34] <phunyguy> It could be disabled there
[19:34] <zh1> Elouise, what os does it run and do you have its serial number
[19:35] <Elouise> phuang:
[19:35] <Elouise> phunyguy:
[19:35] <Elouise> It's enabled.
[19:36] <phunyguy> you just can't see any networks?
[19:36] <Elouise> I'm connected to wifi.
[19:36] <Elouise> but no access.
[19:36] <phunyguy> err...
[19:36] <phunyguy> so it is connected, just nothing works....
[19:37] <Elouise> Yeah
[19:37] <phunyguy> can you pastebin the output of "route -n" please?
[19:38] <Elouise> Um
[19:38] <phunyguy> also include the contents of the ifconfig command too please
[19:38] <phunyguy> errr no wifi. ><
[19:38]  * phunyguy grumbles.  
[19:38] <Elouise> Lol
[19:38] <zh1> ubuntu?
[19:38] <phunyguy> so let's do this a different way
[19:39] <phunyguy> Elouise, do you have a line that starts with 0.0.0.0 on the route -n command?
[19:39] <Elouise> I made this work last night when I was in my hotel room
[19:39] <Elouise> Yes
[19:39] <zh1> lucky strike
[19:39] <rio_zenta> is booting into a nested file system not possible?
[19:39] <Elouise> Whenever I go to different places and access WiFi, it won't just work T_T
[19:39] <phunyguy> ok, now the next set of numbers to the right of that, please try to ping that address
[19:40] <Elouise> can I pm
[19:40] <rio_zenta> wait, my question is wrong
[19:40] <phunyguy> here is fine, so others can chime in.  You don't have to say the address
[19:40] <rio_zenta> I mean, is making the bootloader default to a nested file system not possible?
[19:40] <Elouise> K so
[19:40] <phunyguy> type "ping" and then the address under the "gateway" field
[19:41] <phunyguy> let me know if you get replies
[19:41] <Elouise> o ic
[19:42] <Mathcubes> Hey can anyone help with this issure.
[19:42] <Elouise> Ping (adress) 58(64) bytes of data
[19:42] <Mathcubes> Hey can anyone help me?
[19:42] <phunyguy> Elouise, no responses?
[19:42] <Elouise> I got that response.
[19:42] <phunyguy> Mathcubes, we don't know until you ask the real question
[19:43] <rio_zenta> Mathcubes: Don't ask to ask. Just ask
[19:43] <phunyguy> Elouise, ok, ctrl-c
[19:43] <Mathcubes> @phunyguy yea I forgot to inculde my issure.
[19:43] <spy6> can please anybody tell me the default twitter client on 14.04 (trusty)?
[19:44] <phunyguy> spy6, I don't think there is one
[19:44] <phunyguy> not by default anyway
[19:44] <spy6> phunyguy: there is no twitter client installed on trusty?
[19:44] <phunyguy> Elouise, I am not sure at this point.  Can you boot to a LiveCD and see if it works there?
[19:44] <Elouise> Livecd?
[19:44] <phunyguy> spy6, not that I am aware of
[19:44] <spy6> (on stock ubuntu 14.04)
[19:44] <phunyguy> Elouise, yes, what you use to install Ubuntu
[19:45] <Elouise> I did the code thing
[19:45] <spy6> hmmmm
[19:45] <Elouise> I didn't use no cds lol
[19:45] <phunyguy> spy6, it used to be gwibber, but that project died
[19:45] <phunyguy> Elouise, USB stick?
[19:45] <Mathcubes> Well this may be offtopic but Few days ago I got a virus on my WIndows parition and it delected ctrutical files.  And so, I delected the partition,  Now I want to reinstall Windows but it is saying that Missing Drivers. I use GRUB on the MBR, and I have a Dell Inspiron R17 n7110 laptop.
[19:46] <phunyguy> Mathcubes, what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[19:46] <Elouise> Nope :S
[19:46] <Mathcubes> Well I use Ubuntu... I used GRUB as the MBR.  and I was reading that might be the problem.
[19:46] <phunyguy> Elouise, how did you install Ubuntu?
[19:47] <phunyguy> Mathcubes, drivers missing from Windows has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[19:47] <Elouise> http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/764181-how-to-install-linux-on-an-acer-c720-chromebook
[19:48] <phunyguy> yikes.
[19:48] <phunyguy> ok, that makes sense then.
[19:48] <Elouise> What happened
[19:48] <phunyguy> It makes sense that you didn't use a USB stick to install.  But a LiveUSB may work now
[19:49] <phunyguy> but probably not worth the effort for this issue.
[19:50] <phunyguy> I have to go to a meeting
[19:50] <phunyguy> bbiab
[19:50] <Elouise> Aw
[19:50] <Elouise> Well thanks for helping ;)
[19:50] <thomas__> hi
[19:50] <demonoid_com> hello to all
[19:51] <demonoid_com> i need little help
[19:51] <demonoid_com> about wireshark
[19:51] <demonoid_com> :)
[19:51] <thomas__> we have an issue with an external screen. 1920x1080 is the native resolution. but it does not fill the screen.
[19:51] <thomas__> vga connected
[19:51] <demonoid_com> i try to compile wireshark and have this error
[19:51] <thomas__> i tried xrandr and set the resolution to 1920...
[19:51] <demonoid_com> configure: error: Neither Qt nor GTK+ 2.12.0 or later are available, so Wireshark can't be compiled
[19:52] <harmonics> Does the ubuntu page require ssl?
[19:53] <daftykins> harmonics: define ubuntu page
[19:53] <Unknown> hey all
[19:54] <rio_zenta> Success, I've made ubuntu wubi the default bootloader in windows.
[19:54] <rio_zenta> Thanks diddledan, phunyguy
[19:54] <daftykins> ugh WUBI? were you not advised against that?
[19:55] <rio_zenta> daftykins: I have successfully installed ubuntu server through wubi and also successfully made it the default boot, so now I can work with it without a screen or keyboard
[19:55] <daftykins> i see, just note that i think WUBI is unsupported so if you get any issues you can't ask for help
[19:56] <rio_zenta> daftykins: I think it might still be supported, because wubi exists in 12.04 LTS
[19:56] <Unknown> Question trying to set-up a cups client on 14.04 desktop, the only guides I find mention cups-client and a simply client.conf and sometimes install a2ps as well, is this still the way to go to achieve what I'm trying to do?
[19:56] <Jordan_U> rio_zenta: "Supported" or not, I highly recommend against using it.
[19:56] <reisio> rio_zenta: gj
[19:57] <reisio> rio_zenta: how'd you manage it?
[19:57] <rio_zenta> Jordan_U: It is for a home-server to run small tests on. Nothing major or persistent.
[19:57] <thomas__> any tips for my monitor problem?
[19:57] <reisio> thomas__: fix it
[19:57] <thomas__> reisio, fix what?
[19:57] <Reptilia> Can i somehow see my HDD make and model, using the terminal?
[19:57] <reisio> thomas__: monitor issue
[19:57] <rio_zenta> reisio: I worked backwards from ubuntu12.04 by stripping it down with tasksel and installing ubuntu server in it's place.
[19:58] <Unknown> The reason I ask is I've tried multiple variations and it just doesnt seem to work (although it works fine on multiple 12.04 to the same cups server)
[19:58] <reisio> Reptilia: dmesg, dmidecode, lshw
[19:58] <harmonics> Unknown what is your mailing address to send a copy of the ubuntu cdt.
[19:58] <thomas__> reisio, i want to. but how?
[19:58] <reisio> rio_zenta: just to fix the menu?
[19:58] <reisio> thomas__: what's the problem?
[19:58] <thomas__> reisio, thank you. 1920x1080 won't fill the whole screen. there are borders left and right.
[19:58] <Unknown> harmonics: I have plenty of burnt iso's of ubuntu already, thanks
[19:59] <thomas__> and its not sharp
[19:59] <rio_zenta> reisio: which menu? oh you mean the bootloader, that was pretty simple. Just needed to modify the boot.ini file.
[19:59] <harmonics> Reptilia what is the ip and protocal to look for the hd make and model?
[19:59] <reisio> ah
[19:59] <Reptilia> What
[19:59] <spy6> okay ... which twitter client could i install on 14.04 to have it integrated with indicator menu?
[20:02] <rio_zenta> spy6 you want twitter troubling you the whole day on your desktop?
[20:03] <thomas__> reisio, on the left and right there are about 5cm missing.
[20:03] <thomas__> its not an issue with monitor settings
[20:03] <spy6> rio_zenta: just popup on fav/mention
[20:04] <rio_zenta> spy6, I've never come across desktop twitter clients. I recommend you look in the software centre.
[20:04] <rio_zenta> !software
[20:04] <rio_zenta> aah wrong one.
[20:04] <rio_zenta> !Packages | spy6
[20:04] <Unknown> Do I have to be authenticated to nickserv to talk in here, or are people seeing this?
[20:04] <spy6> rio_zenta: indeed, I'm able to do a "aptitude search twitter" ;)
[20:04] <reisio> Unknown: only I can see it
[20:04] <Unknown> ;) ty
[20:04] <reisio> :p
[20:04] <rio_zenta> Unknown we see you. the room would tell you otherwise.
[20:05] <Unknown> thats what I thought but i'm using a webbased java applet so wasnt sure
[20:05] <spy6> ubottu: indeed, I know searching a package and how does it work, I'm just debian developer
[20:05] <spy6> ubottu: ah, many thanks for the hint :P
[20:06] <genii> spy6: apt-cache search produces a result of package mikutter
[20:06] <genii> !info mikutter
[20:06] <spy6> just heading to packages.ubuntu.com/mikutter :)
[20:07] <spy6> no screenshot available :(
[20:08] <spy6> ah ... some kind of tweetdeck
[20:08] <rio_zenta> i recall hootsuite having an ubuntu desktop app, but it was buggy at best.
[20:16] <EleanorEllis> Hi. Can anyone suggest an application to defragment an NTFS partition please?
[20:16] <tomatopotato> hi all, is there a known issue with 14.04 and wget?
[20:16] <spy6> ah ... installing "friends" seems sufficiant
[20:17] <tomatopotato> everytime i download a file it seems to have a different size or the script i am using is fucked up, not sure though
[20:17] <Tatuus> Xubuntu freezes after installing Chromium, starting it.... Is this a known issue? Tried few HD's already and it's always the same on that laptop.
[20:18] <borovaka> Tatuus: do you tried with chrome?
[20:18] <Tatuus> no, i don't want that
[20:20] <borovaka> Tatuus: try beta ppa
[20:20] <borovaka> Tatuus: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta
[20:21] <Tatuus> borovaka: ok, i'll try. thanks
[20:23] <lucido> I'm trying to install the native version of unreal tournament (the first)' but the libgtk1.2 library is missing
[20:23] <lucido> how can I install old stuff like that?
[20:23] <Nilkanth> who's a girl here
[20:24] <ikonia> why ?
[20:24] <Nilkanth> lol
[20:24] <ikonia> ?
[20:24] <Nilkanth> I searching 1 for my irc server xD
[20:24] <Nilkanth> I am*
[20:24] <ikonia> ok, well, this isn't a dating channel
[20:24] <ikonia> so please don't ask
[20:24] <Nilkanth> I am nt asking for a date!
[20:25] <lucido> balls or gtfo
[20:25] <ikonia> why do you want to find a women ?
[20:25] <Nilkanth> I ama sking to join my server and I am 15 years old
[20:25] <Nilkanth> I have only boys in my channel
[20:25] <ikonia> lucido: please - that language is not welcome
[20:25] <lucido> ikonia, geez sorry
[20:25] <ikonia> Nilkanth: this is not a recruitment channel
[20:25] <Nilkanth> brbrb
[20:25] <Nilkanth> I am just asking
[20:25] <ikonia> Nilkanth: please don't
[20:25] <Nilkanth> so don't ask me more question
[20:26] <Nilkanth> Okey .....]
[20:26] <Nilkanth> loser ikonia xD
[20:27] <Sarseo> I've got a pink line running down the leftmost part of my 2nd monitor.  How do I remove that?
[20:27] <mlc> quit
[20:29] <mlc> hi all
[20:30] <tomatopotato> why is the file larger then on the server when i download with wget? is there a bug with wget in 14.04 please let me know
[20:31] <ikonia> no bug known
[20:32] <tomatopotato> the wierdest part is that the md5sum is the same
[20:33] <OerHeks> mbit-mbyte issue?
[20:33] <tomatopotato> the file is like 2808120 when its downloaded with wget but it should be 2319400
[20:33] <tomatopotato> OerHeks: sorry im a newb, and im not sure how i should fix that
[20:35] <jost> What is wrong with this snippet in bash? http://dpaste.com/2YH78EA/
[20:35] <jost> The error message is: "line 20: [start: command not found"
[20:36] <jost> Even if I remove the interpolated part, it throws this error
[20:38] <rio_zenta> Tatuus: It doesn't freeze for me.
[20:38] <phunyguy> jost, escape the brackets
[20:40] <gr33n7007h> jost, works for me
[20:40] <phunyguy> jost, the brackets are used in bash, so it confuses it.  You either have to use single quotes on that line, which breaks the ${0##*/} part, or escape the brackets. (\[ blah blah \])
[20:40] <phunyguy> jost, oh wait, what is your shebang?
[20:41] <phunyguy> jost, aka the very first line of the script
[20:41] <jost> phuang#!/usr/bin/env bash
[20:41] <jost> #!/usr/bin/env bash
[20:44] <phunyguy> that seems OK, also that script snippet works for me as well
[20:45] <jost> phunyguy: weird, I get many errors (on a 14.04 server)
[20:45] <gr33n7007h> jost whats your bash version "bash --version"
[20:45] <jost> GNU bash, version 4.3.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[20:45] <phunyguy> ahh I am on 4.2.45
[20:45] <phunyguy> (Gentoo)
[20:46] <jost> that makes that much difference?
[20:46] <phunyguy> it may
[20:46] <gr33n7007h> I'm on 4.2.37 work on mine
[20:46] <phunyguy> there is a #bash channel
[20:46] <phunyguy> you may get better help there for this
[20:47] <jost> the bash 4.3 release notes should also help
[20:47] <Blizzz> did someone else has had trouble installing ejabberd on 14.04? upon installtion (purged and installed couple times meanwhile)  the service fails to start, ejabberctl always ends with "Failed RPC connection to the node ejabberd@HOST: nodedown"
[20:47] <ikonia> Blizzz: no rpc listening or firewall,
[20:48] <Reptilia> Is there any Linux utility that will test everything in my PC, including the motherboard, and tell me if something is malfunctioning? Thanks in advance.
[20:48] <ikonia> Reptilia: not really
[20:48] <bekks> Reptilia: No, there is no such tool.
[20:48] <Blizzz> ikonia: no firewall configured
[20:48] <ikonia> Reptilia: have you any reason to think there is a problem ?
[20:48] <_2_ellieafenixx> hey :D
[20:49] <ikonia> Blizzz: what do you mean no firewall configured, everything default, or you've totally disabled the firewall manually
[20:49] <Reptilia> ikonia:Yes
[20:49] <ikonia> Reptilia: what do you think is broken and why ?
[20:49] <Blizzz> ikonia: yes, default
[20:49] <ikonia> Blizzz: then there is a firewall configured, and it is blocking rpc
[20:50] <reisio> Reptilia: actually there is
[20:50] <Tatuus> borovaka: the problem with that laptop was actually related to bad memory chip, replaced it and also Chromium works swell. Weird i guess, but that's it.
[20:50] <reisio> you can see it if you turn on your webcam and look at the bits on your face
[20:50] <reisio> the round ones
[20:50] <reisio> your eyes
[20:50] <reisio> problems don't exist until they do
[20:50] <Reptilia> ikonia:LCD screen showing flickering, horizontal, parallel lines, made every possible combination of tests and it turns out that it is a PC thing, graphics card is new, bought 2 days ago, so the Motherboard remains the only thing that could be malfunctioning.
[20:51] <Reptilia> ikonia:And i need a utility or something similar which will run some tests
[20:51] <ikonia> Reptilia: just because the graphics card is new doesn't mean it's not broken
[20:51] <Tatuus> rio_zenta: the problem with that laptop was actually related to bad memory chip, replaced it and also Chromium works swell. Weird i guess, but that's it.
[20:51] <ikonia> Reptilia: it also doesn't mean it's a hardware problems, software drivers could also be the issue
[20:51] <ikonia> Reptilia: have you tested this in another OS ?
[20:52] <bekks> Reptilia: And it doesnt mean it is plulgged in correctly, it doesnt mean cables are connected properly, it doesnt mean connectors are clean, etc.
[20:52] <kylerain> hello, i have a lacie cloudbox and some custom firmware with no docs or support. I am wondering if I can replace it with ubuntu server? it is armv5 architecture.
[20:53] <ikonia> kylerain: I'd suggest staying clear of ubuntu on arm
[20:53] <kylerain> bummer, too heavy?
[20:53] <kylerain> lots of bugs?
[20:53] <ikonia> no, just a fix of support, eg: no arm 7 support, community only builds etc etc
[20:53] <trinode> hey, if you're running 14.04 is there going to be a kernel update?
[20:54] <ikonia> trinode: there will be kernel updates, yes
[20:54] <hje841> how do I us a DBT-122 bluetooth dongle to get audio to my headset in 12.04?
[20:55] <trinode> ikonia: is there a repo with fully ubuntuized kernels that are WIP? I ask because I need 3.14 for my wireless card, but on 3.14 mainline my laptop's battery litterally halfs.
[20:55] <Reptilia> ikonia:This happened with the previous graphics card too, but the lines were with a bigger magnitude, especially have turned on a graphics-intensive app/game. The graphics card is tested on another PC, and it is okay, so i doubt it's a g.c. issue. The same happens in Ubuntu / Windows 7.
[20:55] <ikonia> trinode: wip ?
[20:56] <trinode> ikonia: work in progress, even if they're not "LTS production ready"
[20:56] <gr33n7007h> hje841, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[20:56] <ikonia> trinode: nope
[20:56] <Reptilia> bekks:It is plugged in correctly, cables are inserted correctly, connectors are cleaned with alcohol, dust removed from PCI slots and cleaned with alcohol.
[21:00] <hje841> gr33n7007h, thanks, but I did that already, but the bluetooth device doesn't show up as an audio device
[21:01] <gr33n7007h> hje841, what is it showing up as?
[21:02] <hje841> right now, nothing. lsusb doesn't show it. and dmesg says 'unable to enumerate USB device'
[21:03] <hje841> I tried uncommenting 'AutoConnect=true' in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf but nothing
[21:03] <phunyguy> trinode, after some time, there will be newer kernels made available to the LTS release when they are released with a newer version of Ubuntu, but that is a ways out.
[21:04] <phunyguy> it is called the "LTS Hardware Enablement Stack"
[21:04] <phunyguy> But I wouldn't expect to see any of those released for 14.04 for another 6-9 months.
[21:04] <gr33n7007h> hje841, I'm not that well up on bluetooth sorry I can't help further
[21:05] <hje841> gr33n7007h, it's okay, thanks. I might as well upgrade to 14.04 this weekend..
[21:05] <saban> how to copy folder A with files over folder B but dont override files that are alrady in folder B?
[21:06] <gr33n7007h> hje841, How you upgrading to reinstall?
[21:06] <gr33n7007h> s/to/total/
[21:07] <phunyguy> saban, man cp... also.. cp with the -n option does what you want
[21:07] <phunyguy> "--no-clobber"
[21:07] <saban> tnx
[21:07] <hje841> gr33n7007h, from 12.04 to 14.04.. I usually just delete the partition.. and install
[21:07] <phunyguy> 'welcome.
[21:07] <gr33n7007h> hje841, ok cool :)
[21:07] <rosaage> I need to keep a program running after closing ssh, and installed screen, but i remember i had something before where i only needed to connect then came to the same session as I used last time it also had some kind of toolbar on the bottom
[21:08] <rosaage> How can i get this again?
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> saban: also rsync can do a range of things
[21:08] <medwards> hey folks, looking for some helping installing nvidia drivers
[21:08] <hje841> gr33n7007h, so biggest concern will be backing up my files as I have no /home partition
[21:08] <medwards> I've installed both the normal packages and the swat-x-team packages
[21:09] <medwards> but X doesn't use the driver (even though I can modprobe it)
[21:09] <ikonia> medwards: sounds like you're screwed then
[21:09] <ikonia> as installing a conflicting PPA = not good
[21:09] <gr33n7007h> hje841, you all on /
[21:09] <medwards> hrm
[21:09] <SchrodingersScat> rosaage: that sounds like it could be byobu
[21:09] <medwards> OK I can go through the process of purging it and starting over
[21:09] <ikonia> modprobing the driver doesn't actually make xorg use it, you need to configure X to use it, and if it's not loading on it's own (you shouldn't need to modprobe it) you may have a more serious problem
[21:10] <hje841> gr33n7007h, I have a data partition seperately, but yeah.. everything is on /
[21:10] <medwards> ikonia: yeah thats where I'm at
[21:10] <medwards> there is an xorg folder full of its drivers
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> rosaage: byobu is like a layer on top of screen to make screen a little more..intuitive? to new users?
[21:10] <medwards> and there is nothing for nvidia in it
[21:10] <medwards> which seems like the root cause
[21:10] <ikonia> medwards: no
[21:10] <gr33n7007h> hje841, always good practice to have /home ;)
[21:10] <hje841> gr33n7007h, I know :)
[21:10] <saban> cp -nR did the work. tnx
[21:11] <ikonia> medwards: a.) it should load the module at boot up on it's own b.) you need an xorg.conf or an nvidia modular component.conf to force it to use the "nvidia" driver in xorg
[21:11] <rosaage> Thanks! Looks like what i used last time will try it
[21:11] <hje841> gr33n7007h, too lazy to make one
[21:11] <medwards> a) nvidia is in lsmod, I'm assuming from boot time
[21:11] <gr33n7007h> hje841, :p
[21:11] <medwards> b) when I try to generate an xorg.conf using X -configure I get an error about how devices and screens don't match up
[21:11] <ikonia> medwards: if it's in at boot - why are you modprobing it ?
[21:12] <fpmvu> hello
[21:12] <medwards> ikonia: to prove to myself I can, just instinct
[21:12] <fpmvu> I would like to ask for your help
[21:12] <hje841> gr33n7007h, I'll switch to an SSD with the new install, so.. nothing to worry about there
[21:12] <ikonia> medwards: you can't - it's already loaded
[21:12] <ikonia> medwards: so I'm concerned why you think you can
[21:12] <phunyguy> fpmvu, so ask your real question. :)
[21:12] <fpmvu> I created a new user and I cannot run updates with that new user
[21:12] <gr33n7007h> hje841, true, and ton faster
[21:12] <cane99> Anyone going to the TexasLinuxFest
[21:13] <fpmvu> I can sudo in the text terminal (ctrl-alt-f1) but can't in the graphical terminal
[21:13] <phunyguy> fpmvu, then make them an admin in the user add panel
[21:13] <medwards> ikonia: lets chalk it up to poor thinking. I can verify that nvidia was in lsmod after booting with no other commands
[21:13] <fpmvu> I am puzzled
[21:13] <phunyguy> oh
[21:13] <hje841> gr33n7007h, yup
[21:13] <phunyguy> fpmvu, did you log out and back in after adding sudo access?
[21:13] <fpmvu> yes
[21:13] <fpmvu> I even restarted my computer after relogging
[21:14] <MagicSpud> hello I am using compiz and cairo dock and I would like to get rid of the top-panel...I used to have three and removing the other two was quite simple: alt+start right click remove panel but the last...is not willing to disappear. that option is not allowed
[21:14] <fpmvu> somehow I don't see the admin rights in the gui
[21:14] <phunyguy> fpmvu, type "groups" at the terminal
[21:14] <phunyguy> tell me if sudo is there
[21:14] <phunyguy> (or wheel, can't remember)
[21:14] <fpmvu> it's sudo and it's there
[21:14] <rosaage> SchrodingersScat: byobu with Byobu-enable on is what i needed Thanks
[21:14] <fpmvu> I added it already
[21:15] <phunyguy> fpmvu, what error are you getting?
[21:15] <clino> Hello
[21:15] <fpmvu> it doesn't accept my pwd
[21:15] <fpmvu> should I try to change it?
[21:16] <phunyguy> yes, you should reset it
[21:16] <fpmvu> 'kay, I'll see if it works
[21:16] <clino> I need to install a package which is part of a PPA which doesnt have an entry for the latest trusty version. How can i Use the old saucy PPA to get that package ?
[21:16] <ikonia> clino: you can't
[21:16] <spouky> hello  i  speak  french
[21:16] <fpmvu> interesting, even passwd refuses the pwd
[21:17] <spouky> are   uou  dead  ?
[21:17] <spouky> are   you,  dead
[21:17] <phunyguy> spouky, what?
[21:17] <MagicSpud> and one more thing... how to make nautilus windows to pop up in the middle of the screen?
[21:17] <spouky> are   you,  deadare  you  dead ?
[21:17] <clino> @ ikonia thanks -- still here it is : http://ppa.launchpad.net/coolwanglu/pdf2htmlex/ubuntu/dists/
[21:17] <MagicSpud> they use to pop up aligned top left
[21:17] <phunyguy> spouky, please stop that
[21:17] <spouky> are  you  dead  ?
[21:18] <fpmvu> phunyguy: thanks for your help, it seems to work with a changed password
[21:18] <phunyguy> almost stepped on you, ikonia ;)
[21:18] <phunyguy> fpmvu, cheers
[21:18] <fpmvu> I'll see if I can set a proper password and if it works
[21:18] <alteregoa> i got errors
[21:19] <alteregoa> i got error upgrade saucy-- trusty unicode error > http://pastebin.com/yUvsq8W3
[21:20] <phunyguy> alteregoa, you may need to file a bug report
[21:20] <phunyguy> that doesn't look good :(
[21:21] <phunyguy> ok I am going home, bbiab
[21:21] <fpmvu> phunyguy: it seems my keyboard layouts are messed up
[21:21] <fpmvu> I'll have some fun cleaning it up
[21:21] <fpmvu> thanks again for your help
[21:22] <beniwtv> Hi all... Anyone can tell me where pulseaudio is started on a new ubuntu install... I have a custom .xsession that I launch, with only xbmc-standalone as a command. However, pulseaudio still gets started on bootup. Anyone knows where that is started?
[21:23] <alteregoa> i need to fill a banana ware report
[21:23] <alteregoa> because the bug report is already fileld 2 months ago
[21:23] <alteregoa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1295971
[21:24] <alteregoa> i have to upgrade because i want to get rid of this ultra-buggy upstart thing
[21:27] <trism> alteregoa: trusty still has upstart
[21:27] <alteregoa> oh
[21:27] <nashant> is there any way to load an installer with a newer kernel?
[21:27] <alteregoa> and unicorn?
[21:28] <ikonia> nashant: no, why would you do that ?
[21:28] <alteregoa> pink unicorn or something?
[21:28] <gr33n7007h> beniwtv, do you want disable pulse at startup?
[21:28] <trism> alteregoa: utopic has the option of systemd but not default yet
[21:28] <nashant> ikonia: because the current kernel doesn't recognise the sata controller that my ssds are attached to
[21:28] <ikonia> nashant: does a later kernel ?
[21:29] <Thedarkb> help me
[21:29] <alteregoa> ah thank to the human mankind systemd is back in unicorn
[21:29] <nashant> ikonia: possibly, or at least you can make it do so
[21:29] <ikonia> nashant: "possibly" ??? "make it do so" ??
[21:29] <nashant> ikonia: http://theangryangel.co.uk/blog/marvell-88se9172-sata3-under-linux-as-of-320/
[21:29] <Thedarkb> My computer won't boot to ubuntu
[21:30] <ikonia> nashant: where does it say you need a newer kernel ?
[21:30] <ikonia> nashant: I see some guy pushing something into "sys" file system on a standard 3.2 kernel
[21:30] <daftykins> Thedarkb: explain what you have done and what went wrong, on one line
[21:30] <nashant> ikonia: What kernel does that standard installer use?
[21:31] <ikonia> nashant: should be the same as the install
[21:31] <Thedarkb> I dropped my laptop when it was accessing the hard disk
[21:31] <Thedarkb> that should answer that
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Do you have backups of all of the important data on this disk?
[21:32] <nashant> ikonia: I have no idea which kernel the install has. Haven't been able to install
[21:32] <Thedarkb> I didn't bother
[21:32] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[21:32] <Thedarkb> Now I wish I did
[21:32] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel
[21:32] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel-image
[21:33] <Thedarkb> It boots until it's about to show the login screen then it crashes
[21:33] <Thedarkb> Locks up totally
[21:33] <Thedarkb> Repeatedly reading the same sector
[21:33] <Thedarkb> I can still boot to windows though
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: How important is the data to you? If it's very important then you should stop using the drive completely right now to avoid further damage.
[21:34] <Platypus-Man> got a new laptop with freshly installed Ubuntu 14.04, norwegian keyboard layout... the AltGr key pops up a context-menu (as if I right-clicked something) rather than letting me chose alternate characters on the keyboard... settings -> keyboard has both "compose key" and "alternative characters key" set to disabled as default, I've tried to change them to "right alt" one at a time, but it didn't
[21:34] <Platypus-Man> help... any ideas?
[21:34] <Thedarkb> Well according to chkdsk I only killed 12 sectors
[21:34] <ikonia> nashant: 3.1.19
[21:35] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Were you booted into Windows or Ubuntu when you dropped the computer?
[21:35] <Thedarkb> Ubuntu
[21:35] <nashant> ikonia: so still not 3.2.0. There's really no way of injecting a newer kernel into the installer?
[21:35] <ikonia> nashant: no
[21:35] <ikonia> nashant: however I'd check if 3.2 is really needed
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Then some number of damaged secgtors on your Windows partition probably indicates many more damaged sectors in your Ubuntu partition, as those sectors were more likely to have been in use.
[21:36] <nashant> ikonia: Well I'm trying it on the current one and it's not working at all. No love from them at all. Works on 2.6.x though.
[21:36] <Thedarkb> I scanned the ubuntu partiton
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: How important is the data to you? If it's very important then you should stop using the drive completely right now to avoid further damage.
[21:36] <ikonia> nashant: trying what on the current one ?
[21:37] <Thedarkb> Jordan_U: I'm too busy frantically backing up
[21:37] <nashant> ikonia: To push the vendor/device IDs to the ahci driver
[21:37] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: How important is the data to you? This is an important question.
[21:38] <ikonia> nashant: not sure how that will fly on a livecd
[21:38] <Thedarkb> Jordan_U: I could live without it
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: OK. Are you currently booted into Ubuntu or Windows?
[21:38] <beniwtv> gr33n7007h: yep
[21:39] <Thedarkb> Windows, I told you prior that Ubuntu won't load fully
[21:40] <nashant> ikonia: I suppose I could disconnect the other drives, put the ssds on the controller that works, upgrade to 3.2+ kernel, push the IDs to the driver and then put the SSDs back on the Marvell one. But I don't know if the new device IDs would stic
[21:40] <nashant> k
[21:40] <Thedarkb> I'm opening my linux partition in a hex editor
[21:40] <alteregoa> omg marvell
[21:40] <ikonia> nashant: how are you going to upgrade to a 3.2 kernel ?
[21:40] <ikonia> nashant: there isn't a package for it
[21:40] <Thedarkb> The first few kilobytes are null
[21:40] <nashant> ikonia: manually
[21:41] <ikonia> sounds like a bad idea, but it's up to you
[21:42] <nashant> It's really not what I would like to do
[21:42] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: I would recommend booting from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB to recover files. Also, check the SMART status of the drive.
[21:42] <Thedarkb> It isn't even really a partition
[21:43] <nashant> But I'm trying to set up Xen with ATI passthrough to run an XBMC domU, and I'm not having any love at all
[21:43] <Thedarkb> It's a partition within the windows partition
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Are you using Wubi?
[21:43] <Thedarkb> Yup
[21:43] <Thedarkb> I'm on precise pangolin I think
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: I highly recommend against using Wubi.
[21:44] <Thedarkb> Why, It's been stable for years
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: You've been lucky for years then :)
[21:44] <gr33n7007h> beniwtv, you could uncomment `; autospawn = yes autospawn = no` in /etc/pulse/client.conf
[21:44] <nashant> ikonia: And the only other thing I can think of is running an Ubuntu dom0 with XBMC and then everything else on top of that
[21:44] <Guest96636> somebody here nows how to crack a WEP password with aircrack-ng ? I tried and give a error , somebody can help?
[21:44] <Thedarkb> Lenovo format drives in a way preventing partitioning
[21:44] <Thedarkb> I had no choice
[21:45] <beniwtv> gr33n7007h: Thanks, will try that
[21:45] <gr33n7007h> beniwtv, thats semi-colon is a comment remove it ;)
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: 4 primary partitions?
[21:45] <beniwtv> gr33n7007h: Figured as much :)
[21:46] <gr33n7007h> beniwtv, ;p
[21:46] <Thedarkb> Yup, and none deleteable
[21:46] <gr33n7007h> Guest96636, That's not an ubuntu related question is it?
[21:46] <Thedarkb> One of them holds the factory reset stuff
[21:46] <Thedarkb> One windows
[21:46] <Thedarkb> And one junk
[21:47] <alteregoa> someday a real rain come down and wash all those ubuntu bugs away from the repositorys
[21:47] <Thedarkb> I'm gonna need to play with GParted for a whiiile to fix this one
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Anyway, at the grub menu select "recovery mode" and run fsck from there to try to fix the filesystem metadata damage. Damage to file contents can't really be helped much.
[21:48] <Thedarkb> Tried
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: And?
[21:48] <Thedarkb> Locked up after 4 seconds
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: What steps did you perform exactly?
[21:48] <Thedarkb> I put ubuntu into recovery mode and tried to drop to root prompt
[21:49] <Thedarkb> Didn;t work
[21:49] <Thedarkb> I then tried fsck
[21:49] <Thedarkb> And my system locked
[21:49] <alteregoa> 65-khmer.conf line 32 out of memory
[21:49] <alteregoa> lol
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: What do you mean by "didn't work"?
[21:51] <Thedarkb> I couldn't log in
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: What happened when you tried to log in? (And in the future, please try to be as detailed as possible so I don't have to ask as many follow up questions like this)
[21:57] <luvs2spooge> I recently purchased the vaio duo 11 and am wondering if I could install ubuntu touch on it and have it work normal. Anyone know?
[21:59] <Nilson> quit
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[22:04] <f00dMonsta> anyone encountered issues with flash player crashing for the vimeo player on firefox?
[22:06] <f00dMonsta> luvs2spooge: not sure if you've already googled it... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2096375
[22:07] <luvs2spooge> f00dMonsta: yeah I am reading this thread right now
[22:08] <luvs2spooge> f00dMonsta: this only pertains to ubuntu 12 and there is some bug with the multi touch
[22:08] <luvs2spooge> hope it was fixed by this point
[22:10] <Jordan_U> luvs2spooge: You can always test things via the LiveCD/USB before installing.
[22:10]  * f00dMonsta agree with Jordan_U 
[22:11] <greenpandian> hi
[22:13] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, Yes. Firefox has the old flash player.
[22:13] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, Get the current version of flash (13.x) and it'll be fine.
[22:15] <anonymous> anyone here have ipv6 wizardy
[22:16] <anonymous> im having a beast of a time with SLAAC
[22:17] <anonymous> just going to dump.. I have a machine on my network that gives out router-advertisements, but my ubu box never puts a router-solicitation on the wire
[22:17] <anonymous> i can get it to do one with rdisc6
[22:17] <anonymous> but when i flip the interface, it never poops on out
[22:17] <anonymous> driving me nuts
[22:19] <f00dMonsta> mexi_d3: I already have the latest stable version installed 11.2.202.359
[22:19] <f00dMonsta> mexi_d3: for linux that is
[22:19] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, Chrome has 13.x
[22:20] <f00dMonsta> mexi_d3: they pretty much develop their own flash plugin
[22:20] <anonymous> hm decided to install all updates maybe that will help .. cross-topic accidental assist
[22:20] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, And it works on vimeo. I think there's some pepperflash  ppa to get 13.x into Firefox
[22:21] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, You could also try disabling Flash and seeing if they detect that and serve you HTML5 instead
[22:23] <f00dMonsta> mexi_d3: i ended up just downloading the video... youtube is fine, so are all the other video players (that I've tried)... just vimeo being a pain
[22:26] <mexi_d3> And people say XP sucks as it's not served by security updates anymore. Flash 11!
[22:26] <f00dMonsta> xp is fine...
[22:26] <f00dMonsta> the best security is usage habits
[22:27] <f00dMonsta> nothing can protect people from ignorance and stupidity :P
[22:27] <mexi_d3> i'd say running an unsupported version of flash was a bit dodgy
[22:28] <mexi_d3> Bearing in mind the sheer number of holes in flash
[22:28] <f00dMonsta> they still do updates to it apparantly... just no new features
[22:29] <Bray90820> Does anyone know of a good way to manage a harmony remote with ubuntu specifically the harmony ultimate
[22:29] <mexi_d3> That's news to me
[22:30] <mexi_d3> They don't even update the Android one anymore and that's far more commonly used than the desktop linux version
[22:30] <mexi_d3> The update is the new one in chrome
[22:30] <f00dMonsta> sigh... i hope we phase out of flash asap
[22:31] <Platypus-Man> I'm still stumped as to how I can make right Alt give me other characters, rather than bringing up a context menu.. any ideas?
[22:31] <f00dMonsta> I don't like chrome that much... only reason why I used it on windows was cos firefox froze too much... don't have that problem on ubuntu tho
[22:32] <jendop> yeah
[22:32] <f00dMonsta> well except when the flash player crashes...
[22:32] <mexi_d3> If you want the new one there is a 3rd party ppa for it. It's called pepperflash.
[22:33] <f00dMonsta> i thought it doesn't work with firefox
[22:33] <f00dMonsta> different api and stuff
[22:33] <jendop> yeah
[22:34] <mexi_d3> it does now
[22:34] <mexi_d3> allegedly
[22:35] <mexi_d3> i don't know
[22:36] <f00dMonsta> https://github.com/mozilla/shumway
[22:36] <f00dMonsta> mozilla is making their own flash vm apparantly
[22:36] <mexi_d3> maybe this? http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[22:36] <f00dMonsta> but I doubt it's production ready
[22:37] <mexi_d3> He's made a hack to use pepper in firefx
[22:37] <f00dMonsta> says hardware accel not working, which sucks when watching videos...
[22:37] <mexi_d3> of course installing untrusted 3rd party code to fix untrusted 3rd party code is ... well ...
[22:38] <f00dMonsta> another method: use pipelight... http://askubuntu.com/a/418329/89092
[22:38] <f00dMonsta> anyway getting off work bai
[22:39] <steveeJ> hi ubuntu folks, is there a way to tell an ubuntu live system which file/filesystem it should use for persistence?
[22:39] <jendop> yes there is
[22:39] <steveeJ> i'm reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence, and there seems to be no option shown
[22:41] <Tin_man> anyone know about mint? or why it says that it needs to restart evertime it boots?
[22:41] <jendop> yes
[22:41] <Tin_man> ok
[22:41] <steveeJ> jendop: how? i'm building a multiboot usb stick with grub2 installed. i need several persistence-files because there will be more than one live-system
[22:42] <Tin_man> never had good luck with grub
[22:42] <Tin_man> could be me
[22:42] <steveeJ> the system is booting fine, but i want to add persistence now
[22:43] <Tin_man> dual boot?
[22:43] <steveeJ> i have two live systems on there currently
[22:43] <Tin_man> kill one.. :-)
[22:44] <Tin_man> windows?
[22:44] <steveeJ> if ubuntu doesn't take a parameter for the casper-rw file/filesystem, i'll have to solve it through grub
[22:44] <Tin_man> i gave up windows.. trust me...
[22:44] <steveeJ> have i mentioned windows anywhere? ;)
[22:45] <Tin_man> didn't have to
[22:45] <steveeJ> i'm building this on gentoo linux
[22:45] <Tin_man> i know
[22:45] <steveeJ> i want to have a couple of different linux distributions live-bootable on one usb drive
[22:45] <Tin_man> i like a clean install
[22:45] <Tin_man> ok
[22:46] <Tin_man> they have a bunch of forums that discuss this subject
[22:47] <steveeJ> i've found no answer to multiple persistence files on the same drive
[22:47] <Tin_man> i play with a bunch of OSs but i like the one i'm on
[22:47] <steveeJ> all i read is it keeps looking for either a filesystem with the label casper-rw, or a file on the rootfs of the drive called casper-rw
[22:47] <orion> Hi. Do I need to compile a custom kernel to get macvtap support?
[22:48] <Tin_man> brb
[22:48] <steveeJ> i could try to map the according casper-rw filesystem with grub for each live-system!
[22:49] <Tin_man> man, i'm not a really good source of information.. but keep going
[22:50] <trism> orion: 14.04 has CONFIG_MACVTAP=m
[22:50] <Tin_man> all i know is i'm running ubuntu 14.04.. out of the ISO file. works great
[22:51] <Tin_man> my system from now on.. maybe... :)
[22:52] <steveeJ> happy when you're happy Tin_man  ;)
[22:52] <Seannie> how do i remove something i installed?
[22:56] <steveeJ> Seannie: ubuntu software center. alternative: apt-get remove *packagename*
[22:56] <Seannie> ty
[22:57] <steveeJ> Seannie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1143/how-can-i-uninstall-software
[22:57] <steveeJ> Seannie: yw
[23:00] <luvs2spooge> Jordan_U: true. Where is a downloadable copy of the ubuntu os for touchscreen devices that I can download? the one that is used on phones and such
[23:03] <kostkon> !touch | luvs2spooge
[23:03] <luvs2spooge> thank you!
[23:03] <john592> hello, can someone help me fix my amd drivers? i cant get it installed, got a couple broken installations and i dont know how to clean em
[23:04] <alvarolm> hi guys!!!
[23:04] <alvarolm> this looks right to anyone http://pastebin.com/89SKxfFH ?
[23:05] <john592> do anyone have a tutorial how to clean any old drivers installed? i tried installing my ATI drivers 3-5 times and always fail so I bet they clogged up the system
[23:17] <vilambit> clean?
[23:17] <vilambit> this is not windows :P
[23:18] <alteregoa> why unrar-nonfree is beta, and on fedora final?
[23:20] <alteregoa> thank h.r giger for alien
[23:20] <john592>  do anyone have a tutorial how to clean any old drivers installed? i tried installing my ATI drivers 3-5 times and always fail so I bet they clogged up the system
[23:25] <dbolser> which package should I pick from png.h?
[23:25] <dbolser> apt-file lists many
[23:26] <thecha> hi my sound suddenly stopped
[23:26] <thecha> how do i restarts sound?
[23:26] <thecha> is there a cli comand?
[23:26] <dbolser> libpng++-dev or libpng12-dev ?
[23:27] <dbolser> thecha: I'm sorry, you're actually deaf now
[23:27] <thecha> :(
[23:27] <dbolser> thecha: it depends on which sound system you're using
[23:27] <thecha> maudio
[23:27] <dbolser> thecha: I'm not an expert I should say
[23:27] <thecha> it worked a minute a go
[23:27] <thecha> seamlessly
[23:28]  * dbolser picks libpng++-dev
[23:28] <dbolser> thecha: sound always confused me on linux
[23:28] <jnoob22> I am using 13.10 ... anyone know of a good tweak utility for changing fonts in Unity?
[23:28] <dbolser> thecha: tried in ##linux?
[23:28] <jnoob22> no, not yet ;)
[23:29] <dbolser> jnoob22: I don't use unity
[23:29] <jnoob22> just did find unity-tweak-tool in the repos
[23:29] <jnoob22> ah ok np
[23:29] <dbolser> and real men don't use fonts
[23:29] <jnoob22> lol I hear you :)
[23:29] <dbolser> ;-)
[23:33] <googlelol> I need help using bash
[23:33] <googlelol> but #bash sucks
[23:34] <Pici> googlelol: Thats too bad, since that is the best place to find bash help on freenode.
[23:34] <googlelol> well all they do is call me a troll for no reason so
[23:34] <googlelol> forget it
[23:35] <googlelol> ill maybe be used ubuntu with it
[23:35] <googlelol> using*
[23:41] <sharp3y> hey all :) just installed an ubuntu dual boot so figured I should find a channel :D
[23:42] <googlelol> where else can I ask about bash
[23:42] <ikonia> #bash
[23:43] <googlelol> where else
[23:43] <ikonia> #bash is the right place
[23:43] <googlelol> last time I went there with a legit question they quieted me for 'trolling'
[23:43] <googlelol> so fuck it
[23:43] <ikonia> googlelol: thats your problem
[23:43] <googlelol> no it isnt my problem
[23:49] <denz_> anyone around that might be able to help me sort out some chrome/flash issues?
[23:50] <denz_> i've tried a few recommended fixes i found online, but to no avail thus far...
[23:50] <Rick_> Hello all! Can someone instruct me how to use qBittorrent?
[23:50] <Rick_> I attempt to download a torrent and when it comes to selecting a program none comes up.
[23:50] <denz_> right, where are my manners?: hello all!
[23:51] <denz_> anyone around that might be able to help me sort out some chrome/flash issues?
[23:51] <denz_> as in flash no longer working in chrome
[23:51] <Jordan_U> denz_: You'll have to give a more detailed description of what problem you're having.
[23:53] <Rick_> #darkmyst
[23:53] <Rick_> Whoops wrong box ><
[23:53] <denz_> basically in chrome only (firefox seems to be running fine) just about any page with embedded video now tells me "You either have Javascript turned off or an old version of Flash Player."
[23:53] <denz_> except youtube, that runs fine
[23:53] <denz_> but i'm guessing that may be because it's now running html5?
[23:54] <denz_> so yeah, every page with video i've been to so far -except youtube- in chrome gives that same error
[23:54] <denz_> "You either have Javascript turned off or an old version of Flash Player."
[23:55] <Jordan_U> denz_: What is the output of "google-chrome --version"?
[23:57] <denz_> Jordan_U: it's Google Chrome 35.0.1916.114
[23:58] <gr33n7007h> denz_, well thats upto date
[23:58] <denz_> Jordan_U thanks for the assistance btw
[23:59] <denz_> yeah everything should be up to date, i even updated my repos and reinstalled flash
[23:59] <trism> denz_: do you have the pepper flash plugin enabled in chrome://plugins ? if you were using the repo version before they are disabled in 35
[23:59] <Jordan_U> denz_: Please go to "about:flash" and copy and paste the contents to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (then share the link with us).