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matt444Is it safe to use the PPAs?00:44
matt444They have better support for hidpi screens00:44
darkxstmatt444, yes trusty -staging is pretty stable now00:49
matt444great, thanks00:49
darkxstNoskcaj, also if you can make a list of all rdepends and their status (i.e needs porting, ok with upstream patches, no change rebuild etc...)00:49
Noskcajdarkxst, That's what i'm working on05:57
NoskcajI don't have proper internet till monday night..05:58
Noskcajpackagekit 3.12 drops the need for upower, but it's got a heap of other changes that make packaging very difficult05:59
darkxstNoskcaj, no it doesnt! might help if you test build locally first though06:03
NoskcajI'm working on it, but there are a lot of changed binaries06:05
darkxstok06:07
NoskcajAnd i can't really build locally till monday since no internet for pbuilder and i don't want to install random libs on my laptop i need for school (I've got a VM server that is meant to do that)06:13
Noskcajrazorqt isn't going to get fixed, so we're probably going to have to wait for it + wmbattery to be removed06:17
darkxstI suppose razorqt is dead now the teams have merged?06:23
Noskcajyep06:24
NoskcajBut it won't be removed till lxqt is done being packaged06:24
Noskcajand probably it will be a while after that06:25
darkxstperhaps file a bug asking for it to be demoted to -proposed06:26
Noskcajok06:27
Noskcajbut i'm sure a lot of people still want to use it06:27
Noskcajbut i'll make the bugs once the rest are ready06:27
darkxstNoskcaj, right, well make the list first, if its just one or two packages might be easier to just port them06:31
darkxstI imagine pitti will take care of python-dbusmock06:32
Noskcajyep06:32
darkxstif everything else is pretty much ready, I image touch/desktop teams will look after powerd and indicator-power respectively06:32
Noskcajtouch team should do ubuntu-system-settings too06:33
Noskcajso sugar, xfce, and kde still need info06:33
darkxstright, yes06:33
NoskcajAs does mate06:33
darkxstpretty sure patches exist for xfce, mate and kde06:33
Noskcajactually, mate is already good to go06:34
Noskcajxfce has patches, but lots, and powermanager is being re-written for it i think06:34
darkxstthe changes required to support upower 0.99 are in general not that huge06:35
darkxsta lot of the refactoring work (atleast in GNOME) was more due to things can be so much simpler with the new upower06:35
darkxstnot so much that the refactoring was required to deal with the api/dbus changes06:36
darkxsthopefully the xfce patches are not to entangled between api changes and refactoring!06:39
NoskcajMy worry is that they won't apply cleanly, and i can't branch the code and check yet06:41
darkxstNoskcaj, one of these days when you learn to code, rebasing patches will become trivial ;)06:56
Noskcajyes06:56
Noskcajbut that will probably be long into the future06:56
darkxstmy hdd is playing up again, gonna have to reboot06:56
darkxstbe back in a bit06:58
Noskcajdarkxst, Since i know basic python already, is there anywhere you think i should try and practice it?07:09
darkxstNoskcaj, fix the python-dbusmock tests ;)07:11
Noskcaj:)07:11
darkxstalthough there is not a lot of python out in the GNOME world atleast07:11
darkxstCanonical use it *alot* though07:11
darkxsti.e. most of the ubuntu tools and backends are all python07:12
NoskcajI tried to help with testdrive (used for iso testing) but it was a mess07:12
darkxstpython lends itself toward that unfortuately07:12
NoskcajI think i'll try and fix some things in the python-modules debian team07:12
* darkxst gasps most time I look at python projects!07:21
darkxstalthough the Canonical code is not so bad, things like gnome-tweak-tool are a horror07:22
darkxstNoskcaj, btw I sponsored your tracker update07:47
prthi'm using ubuntu gnome 14.04. whenever my laptop locks, sometimes the wallpaper turns blue.15:40
prthafter i log in, the opened app are moved outside the desktop so i have to use Alt+F7 to bring it back to visible area of desktop15:40
prthI've reported my above problem. Bug #132523416:53
ubot5bug 1325234 in Ubuntu GNOME "Apps moved outside the desktop's visible area after unlocking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132523416:53
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