[00:44] <matt444> Is it safe to use the PPAs?
[00:44] <matt444> They have better support for hidpi screens
[00:49] <darkxst> matt444, yes trusty -staging is pretty stable now
[00:49] <matt444> great, thanks
[00:49] <darkxst> Noskcaj, also if you can make a list of all rdepends and their status (i.e needs porting, ok with upstream patches, no change rebuild etc...)
[05:57] <Noskcaj> darkxst, That's what i'm working on
[05:58] <Noskcaj> I don't have proper internet till monday night..
[05:59] <Noskcaj> packagekit 3.12 drops the need for upower, but it's got a heap of other changes that make packaging very difficult
[06:03] <darkxst> Noskcaj, no it doesnt! might help if you test build locally first though
[06:05] <Noskcaj> I'm working on it, but there are a lot of changed binaries
[06:07] <darkxst> ok
[06:13] <Noskcaj> And i can't really build locally till monday since no internet for pbuilder and i don't want to install random libs on my laptop i need for school (I've got a VM server that is meant to do that)
[06:17] <Noskcaj> razorqt isn't going to get fixed, so we're probably going to have to wait for it + wmbattery to be removed
[06:23] <darkxst> I suppose razorqt is dead now the teams have merged?
[06:24] <Noskcaj> yep
[06:24] <Noskcaj> But it won't be removed till lxqt is done being packaged
[06:25] <Noskcaj> and probably it will be a while after that
[06:26] <darkxst> perhaps file a bug asking for it to be demoted to -proposed
[06:27] <Noskcaj> ok
[06:27] <Noskcaj> but i'm sure a lot of people still want to use it
[06:27] <Noskcaj> but i'll make the bugs once the rest are ready
[06:31] <darkxst> Noskcaj, right, well make the list first, if its just one or two packages might be easier to just port them
[06:32] <darkxst> I imagine pitti will take care of python-dbusmock
[06:32] <Noskcaj> yep
[06:32] <darkxst> if everything else is pretty much ready, I image touch/desktop teams will look after powerd and indicator-power respectively
[06:33] <Noskcaj> touch team should do ubuntu-system-settings too
[06:33] <Noskcaj> so sugar, xfce, and kde still need info
[06:33] <darkxst> right, yes
[06:33] <Noskcaj> As does mate
[06:33] <darkxst> pretty sure patches exist for xfce, mate and kde
[06:34] <Noskcaj> actually, mate is already good to go
[06:34] <Noskcaj> xfce has patches, but lots, and powermanager is being re-written for it i think
[06:35] <darkxst> the changes required to support upower 0.99 are in general not that huge
[06:35] <darkxst> a lot of the refactoring work (atleast in GNOME) was more due to things can be so much simpler with the new upower
[06:36] <darkxst> not so much that the refactoring was required to deal with the api/dbus changes
[06:39] <darkxst> hopefully the xfce patches are not to entangled between api changes and refactoring!
[06:41] <Noskcaj> My worry is that they won't apply cleanly, and i can't branch the code and check yet
[06:56] <darkxst> Noskcaj, one of these days when you learn to code, rebasing patches will become trivial ;)
[06:56] <Noskcaj> yes
[06:56] <Noskcaj> but that will probably be long into the future
[06:56] <darkxst> my hdd is playing up again, gonna have to reboot
[06:58] <darkxst> be back in a bit
[07:09] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Since i know basic python already, is there anywhere you think i should try and practice it?
[07:11] <darkxst> Noskcaj, fix the python-dbusmock tests ;)
[07:11] <Noskcaj> :)
[07:11] <darkxst> although there is not a lot of python out in the GNOME world atleast
[07:11] <darkxst> Canonical use it *alot* though
[07:12] <darkxst> i.e. most of the ubuntu tools and backends are all python
[07:12] <Noskcaj> I tried to help with testdrive (used for iso testing) but it was a mess
[07:12] <darkxst> python lends itself toward that unfortuately
[07:12] <Noskcaj> I think i'll try and fix some things in the python-modules debian team
[07:21]  * darkxst gasps most time I look at python projects!
[07:22] <darkxst> although the Canonical code is not so bad, things like gnome-tweak-tool are a horror
[07:47] <darkxst> Noskcaj, btw I sponsored your tracker update
[15:40] <prth> i'm using ubuntu gnome 14.04. whenever my laptop locks, sometimes the wallpaper turns blue.
[15:40] <prth> after i log in, the opened app are moved outside the desktop so i have to use Alt+F7 to bring it back to visible area of desktop
[16:53] <prth> I've reported my above problem. Bug #1325234
[18:02]  * prth is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 31st May, 23:32:04)
[18:12]  * prth returns (Auto-away after 30 mins idle [40m 35s]) (total away time: 40m 35s)