[00:56] <blackdog> Hi all - I've got a new m3800 running ubuntu, and love pretty much everything about it except the touchpad so far. I've noticed that when i start moving the pointer and accidentally brush the pad with another finger at the same time, the pointer stops dead. On Mac it seems to just ignore the second event - is there a way to regain that behaviour?
[06:22] <faizabul> hi
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> morning faizabul
[06:22] <faizabul> gm
[06:22] <faizabul> I hav samsung galaxy note 2 N7100
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !devices
[06:22] <faizabul> nd I wnt to install ubuntu touch on it
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> look here mate
[06:23] <faizabul> i m newbie
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> best working devices are now nexus7 devices
[06:23] <faizabul> si shuld i install it on note 2 or not?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> faizabul: later this year 2 phone brands will release ubuntu-touch devices
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> faizabul: look at the list url, to see your device
[06:24] <faizabul> wher is the url
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> faizabul: scroll above
[06:26] <faizabul> do i need ubuntu in my laptop also
[06:26] <faizabul> to install it on my device
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> faizabul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/n7100
[10:39] <ChrisLuck> Hi! I installed ubuntu touch on my nexus4 yesterday and need a little help ;) In every review, they show something like an "app-store" in the apps-dash. but this section  is missing on my device. i dont get any apps suggested. Can someone please, please tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> ChrisLuck: restart your device and enable/disable wifi maybe it will show apps sugested
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> i have it on my nexus7 aswell, doesnt always show sugested apps
[11:20] <ChrisLuck> ok, is will try that :)
[11:27] <ChrisLuck> no, that didnt help. i restartet 2 times and toggled wifi several times.
[11:27] <ChrisLuck> my device says ubuntu 14.04 (r303) in the menu
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[11:28] <ChrisLuck> maybe i used the wrong channel, wenn i installed it?
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> i think we are version r50
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> you still running the old ubuntu touch maybe?
[11:28] <ChrisLuck> i tried the "devel" channel and the "trusty-proposed" channel
[11:29] <ChrisLuck> right now it is "trusty-proposed"
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> i have channel=devel
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> this is the version who gets updated
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> think you better reinstall
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> with chanel=devel
[11:29] <ChrisLuck> hmm okay, is will try to reinstall devel
[11:30] <ChrisLuck> ok ok thank you :)
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> np :p
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> looking good already on my nexus7
[14:11] <lotus|touch> ogra:its little hard to get keyboard on freenode irc app
[14:12] <lotus|touch> and on kiwi cant get keybord at all
[14:12] <lotus|touch> can you make type bar little higher maybe
[14:13] <lotus|touch> ogra_
[15:00] <ChrisLuck> I reinstalled ubuntu touch now, with "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel". Sadly the "suggested apps"-section is still missing :(
[15:04] <AskUbuntu> Flash Ubuntu Touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/474927
[15:08] <ChrisLuck> I also cant install any updates. I get the (truncated) error message: ProsessError: 0 ErrorInProcess...
[15:08] <ChrisLuck> for example when i try to update the weather app
[15:19] <popey> ChrisLuck: hi
[15:19] <popey> ChrisLuck: once flashed, go to system settings -> accounts and add an ubuntu one account
[15:19] <popey> then you can install apps
[15:19] <ChrisLuck> i already did that
[15:19] <popey> ok
[15:19] <ChrisLuck> but i cant see the apps
[15:20] <ChrisLuck> only the ~20 standard apps like phone,gmail, weather...
[15:20] <ChrisLuck> the "suggested apps" section is missing
[15:20] <ChrisLuck> and the fact that i cant update apps is a second problem, i guess
[15:21] <popey> lemme test here
[15:21] <popey> what version are you running?
[15:21] <popey> in system settings -> about
[15:21] <popey> and what device
[15:22] <popey> i have just updated calculator on mine.
[15:22] <popey> and calendar
[15:22] <ChrisLuck> nexus 4; ubuntu 14.10 (r50)
[15:22] <popey> same here
[15:22] <ChrisLuck> installed from the devel channel today
[15:22] <popey> i would remove your u1 account and re-add it
[15:22] <ChrisLuck> and it tells me that i have 7 updates to install
[15:23] <ChrisLuck> but when the update progress-bar reaches 100% i get the error
[15:24] <ChrisLuck> i just created a new u1 account and it didnt help :(
[15:24] <popey> tried rebooting?
[15:24] <ChrisLuck> not since i added the new account
[15:25] <popey> give it a try
[15:26] <ChrisLuck> while it is rebooting: there is one more thing strange. in reviews i saw, that they have grooveshark in the "scope"-screen. thats missing on my device too
[15:26] <popey> odd
[15:27] <ahayzen_> sounds like all of the online stuff isn't appearing?
[15:28] <ChrisLuck> video and music scope is empty too (dont know if this is normal)
[15:29] <ChrisLuck> ok i rebooted and it didn't help :P
[15:29] <ahayzen_> i would expect the grooveshark and online videos to show... ChrisLuck if you open the web browser can you go to a web page?
[15:30] <ChrisLuck> yes, i can. just visited one.ubuntu.com without problems
[15:31] <ChrisLuck> i'm using wifi for this and i dont have a sim card inserted right now (but i tried with simcard too)
[15:31] <ahayzen_> hmmm popey any other ideas?
[15:31] <ahayzen_> ChrisLuck, yeah i'm WiFi only as well
[15:31] <ChrisLuck> maybe my hardware is too new? because i got it brandnew from google yesterday
[15:32] <ahayzen_> ChrisLuck, this is a nexus 4 right?
[15:32] <ChrisLuck> yes
[15:33] <ahayzen_> ChrisLuck, same, not something like the 'Dash search' switch being on 'Phone' instead of 'Phone and Internet'
[15:33] <ChrisLuck> oh
[15:33] <ahayzen_> ChrisLuck, (under System settings -> security and privacy)
[15:33] <ChrisLuck> that might be the problem
[15:33] <popey> i see online stuff here
[15:34] <ChrisLuck> and boooomm, it works :D
[15:34] <popey> hah
[15:34] <popey> \o/ security working as designed ㋛
[15:34] <ahayzen_> :)
[15:34] <ChrisLuck> thank you very much!
[15:35] <popey> ahayzen_: pushed new music to store
[15:35] <ChrisLuck> i thought it is like in desktop unity where you can switch off the amazon search results....
[15:35] <ahayzen_> popey, \o/
[15:35] <popey> it doesn't show up as an update on my #50
[15:35] <ChrisLuck> but apperently this is different here
[15:35] <ahayzen_> popey, i only saw calendar/calc on #57 as updates
[15:35] <popey> ahayzen_: i see music on #56
[15:36] <popey> er 57
[15:36] <ahayzen_> popey, ah but i have custom clicks installed
[15:36] <popey> nope, 56 ☻
[15:36] <ahayzen_> popey, oh mediascanner2 fixes landed in #57
[15:36] <popey> have you updated to 57?
[15:36] <popey> my flo is borked on 57
[15:36] <ahayzen_> popey, now we are waiting for autopilot tests to work
[15:36] <popey> too scared to update nexus 4
[15:36] <ahayzen_> popey, yeah i'm on #57
[15:37] <popey> ok, will update then and blame you if it borks
[15:37] <ahayzen_> popey, victor was on 56 added the testing silo and tht did a similar thing to you
[15:37] <ahayzen_> popey, but then he reflashed and it came back to life
[15:37] <popey> uh
[15:37] <popey> now you tell me
[15:37] <popey> just pressed install
[15:37]  * ahayzen_ comes with no insurance 
[15:37] <popey> expecting fail
[15:37] <ahayzen_> popey, hah we thought it was something random as we couldn't reproduce
[15:38]  * ahayzen_ hides behind pillow before popey launches his Nexus at him
[15:38] <popey> hah
[15:38] <popey> i would never throw them, too fragile
[15:38] <ahayzen_> yeah only poke?
[15:38] <popey> booted fine here
[15:39] <ahayzen_> phew
[15:41] <popey> yay, 3 updates showing on #57
[15:41]  * ahayzen_ wonders if popey would be a good candidate for dogfooding our mediascanner2 branch
[15:44] <ahayzen_> popey, there is a click package here if u do want to try it https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3XynHVKfrvMRWtlN3E3WE1iOEU
[15:45] <popey> lemme test without that on #57 first
[15:45] <popey> then with it
[15:46] <ahayzen_> popey, cool :)
[15:46] <popey> once I can get some music onto the device
[15:46] <ahayzen_> heh that would help
[15:48] <popey> might wipe all my music data and start again
[15:48] <popey> seeing no media
[15:49] <popey> cover art I mean
[15:49] <ahayzen_> popey, is this with mediascanner 1/2?
[15:51] <popey> well i have lots of old metadata on it
[15:51] <popey> so need to start a bit fresher
[15:51] <ahayzen_> yeah probably best
[15:55] <popey> ahayzen_: #57 has mediascanner and mediascanner-2.0, right?
[15:55] <ahayzen_> popey, should do... http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/57.changes
[15:55] <ahayzen_> popey, why?
[15:56] <popey> ii  mediascanner   0.3.93+14.04 armhf        Media scanner package
[15:56] <popey> ii  mediascanner2. 0.101+14.10. armhf        Media scanner package
[15:56] <popey> just wondered
[15:56] <popey> stupid phone keeps connecting to the furthest access point away from me
[15:56] <ahayzen_> popey, when we land music-app with mediascanner2 in the click store i'll propose my branch to remove grilo/mediascanner1 :)
[15:57] <ahayzen_> popey, report a bug! lol
[15:57] <popey> ☻
[15:57] <ChrisLuck> popey and ahayzen: is still have the problem :( now, i can see the internet content but i still cant install the apps. I will try --wipe now, or do you want me to test something?
[15:58] <ahayzen_> ChrisLuck, maybe try redoing your U1 account/restarting as you now have enabled online scopes?
[15:59] <ChrisLuck> i tried rebooting and i tried redoing u1 account
[15:59] <ChrisLuck> i have it set to "phone and internet"
[16:00] <ahayzen_> ChrisLuck, hmm look at the logs?
[16:00] <ChrisLuck> and it says "Download or install failed. Please try again"
[16:00] <popey> yeah, be good to rummage at logs in /home/phablet/.cache/upstart
[16:01] <popey> whatever most recent log is, maybe ubuntu-download-manager log?
[16:08] <popey> ahayzen_: still seeing missing artwork in the app where it shows in the scope
[16:08] <popey> is that fixed in the version you linked to?
[16:08] <ahayzen_> popey, is this with my click or with what is in the store?
[16:08] <popey> store
[16:08] <ahayzen_> popey, yeah you need to run our click
[16:08] <popey> ok
[16:09] <ahayzen_> popey, the store is still using mediascanner1...the click uses mediascanner2
[16:09] <popey> got it
[16:09] <ahayzen_> :)
[16:10] <ahayzen_> popey, feedback is welcome on that click as it is a major change :) we *think* it has gone smoothly without regressing
[16:14] <popey> sure ☻
[16:14] <popey> wifey is out this evening so will do some testing then
[16:15] <ChrisLuck> ADDED TO Q
[16:15] <ChrisLuck> REGISTER OBJ
[16:15] <ChrisLuck> State changed Ubuntu::DownloadManager::Daemon::FileDownload(0xb77fc720, name = "bc8aa6011e7448a6ac585c26cf04397e")
[16:15] <ChrisLuck> "/com/canonical/applications/download/bc8aa6011e7448a6ac585c26cf04397e"
[16:15] <ChrisLuck> virtual void Ubuntu::DownloadManager::Daemon::Download::emitError(const QString&) "COMMAND ERROR"
[16:15] <ChrisLuck> State changed Ubuntu::DownloadManager::Daemon::FileDownload(0xb77fc720, name = "bc8aa6011e7448a6ac585c26cf04397e")
[16:15] <ahayzen_> popey, hehe thanks this is the MP if u need to leave comments https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/use-mediascanner2.0/+merge/214140
[16:15] <popey> k
[16:16] <ahayzen_> ChrisLuck, please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ to paste logs so you don't spam the channel
[16:16] <ChrisLuck> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7559715/
[16:17] <ChrisLuck> sorry
[16:17] <ahayzen_> ChrisLuck, no problem
[16:17] <ahayzen_> popey, seen that before ^^ ?
[16:18] <popey> nope
[16:18] <popey> ChrisLuck: are you on a starnge internet connection?
[16:18] <popey> proxied, or very slow?
[16:19] <ChrisLuck> no, phone->wifi->router->internet
[16:19] <ChrisLuck> but i can try to get closer to the router
[16:19] <popey> i have seen that COMMAND ERROR before but not recently
[16:20] <ChrisLuck> when i try to update one of the stock apps i get a different error but i cant find it in the logs
[16:20] <ChrisLuck> it says "ProsessError: 0 - ErrorInProcess..."   and nothing more
[16:22] <popey> how odd
[16:22] <popey> sorry about that, I've not seen it at all on my 3 devices here
[16:23] <ChrisLuck> thank you anyway ;) I will try --wipe now
[16:23] <frecel> I got this from my app review for usc
[16:23] <frecel> There is also a spurious error regarding the framework which I have already reported to the security team..
[16:23] <frecel>   "error": {
[16:23] <frecel>     "lint_framework": {
[16:23] <frecel>       "text": "'ubuntu-sdk-14.04' is not a supported framework"
[16:23] <frecel>     },
[16:24] <frecel> am I supposed to do something about this?
[16:25] <popey> frecel: two things.
[16:25] <popey> 1) it shouldn't fail IMO, I asked jdstrand to look at that
[16:25] <popey> 2) you could bump to a 14.10 framework in the meantime
[16:26] <popey> brb
[16:26] <ahayzen_> popey, oh FYI don't try and run autopilot with that click as it is currently broken balloon s is looking into it
[16:28] <popey> k
[16:33] <frecel> popey: I changed my framework in the manifest file to 14.10 and this is what I got after trying to submit it
[16:33] <frecel>             The package has an invalid framework specified in the manifest. The currently allowed frameworks are: ['ubuntu-sdk-13.10', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev1', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.04-papi-dev1', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.04-qml-dev1', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.04-html-dev1', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.10-html-dev1', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.10-papi-dev1', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.10-qml-dev1', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.10-dev1', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.04', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.04-html', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.04-papi', 'ubuntu-sdk-14.04-
[16:33] <frecel> qml'].
[16:33] <frecel> popey: which framework should I be using?
[16:34] <popey> frecel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Click/Frameworks -> https://docs.google.com/a/popey.com/spreadsheets/d/1t_JGpg4r8BLluzfzmqa-gAbcKUjKUOufSCTSdPpFc5g/edit#gid=0
[16:34] <popey> thats the reference
[16:42] <frecel> popey: thanks, I submited the new version already
[16:42] <popey> ok
[16:43] <popey> ☹
[16:43] <popey> commented on it
[16:43] <popey> not sure we can fix this till jdstrand is around, and I expect he's flying back from Malta right now
[16:43] <popey> (and the airport was evacuated a few hours ago) ⍨
[16:45] <frecel> interesting
[16:45] <frecel> should I just go back to 14.04?
[16:53] <popey> frecel: well, the tool doesn't like 14.04 either
[16:54] <frecel> popey:  hmm 13.10 then?
[16:55] <popey> ubuntu-sdk-14.10-dev1 should work IMO
[16:56] <popey> new apps aren't allowed to use 13.10
[16:57] <frecel> so you think I should just change the security policy version to 1.2?
[16:57] <popey> yes, if we keep 14.10
[16:57] <popey> frecel: basically you need to get it to pass http://launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools
[16:57] <popey> if it passes that, great
[17:09] <frecel>  popey: do you have docs for these tools somewhere?
[17:10] <popey> basically just branch it and then run bin/click-run-checks foo.click
[17:10] <popey> thats it
[17:13] <popey> gah, ahayzen_ your music app click is failing the reviewer tools too because       "text": "'ubuntu-sdk-14.10-qml-dev1' is not a supported framework"
[17:13] <ahayzen_> popey, but we need it to be on 14.10...
[17:14] <frecel> blame popey
[17:14] <popey> yes, blame me.
[17:14] <popey> ahayzen_: cool, will install anyway
[17:14] <ahayzen_> popey, 'ubuntu-sdk-14.10-qml-dev1.framework' exists in /usr/share/click/frameworks ... so i blame popey :P
[17:14] <ahayzen_> popey, i assume the reviewer tools need updating for the new frameworks?
[17:15] <popey> yeah
[17:15] <popey> it'll be done in due course
[17:15]  * ahayzen_ wonders if popey will get the click to work as Victor is struggling with strange dbus issues
[17:15] <popey> NOW you tell me!? :)
[17:15] <ahayzen_> popey, well it works for balloon s
[17:16] <ahayzen_> popey, this was shortly after his phone was not booting the UI so....
[17:16] <popey> heh, okay
[17:16] <ahayzen_> popey, u can always revert back to the store ;) but we just need people testing this branch
[17:17] <popey> ya
[17:17] <popey> am keen to get this working
[17:17] <ahayzen_> same and so are loads of other people... we want grilo removed from the image \o/
[17:17] <popey> how do you transfer music to your device out of interest?
[17:18] <ahayzen_> popey, MTP
[17:18] <popey> k
[17:18] <popey> how much music?
[17:18] <ahayzen_> popey, 3 albums usually at least 1 flac album 1 mp3 and sometimes a m4a
[17:18] <ahayzen_> depends how bored of the same music i get
[17:19] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~/Music$ find . -type f | wc -l
[17:19] <popey> 324
[17:19] <frecel> speaking of music, my music app doesn't work
[17:19] <popey> oh?
[17:19] <popey> what version and what image number?
[17:19] <ahayzen_> frecel, oh whts up?
[17:20] <frecel> 57 but it didn't work in 56 either
[17:20] <ahayzen_> frecel, does the app start? or white screen then return to the scope?
[17:20] <frecel> I pick a file to play and it does nothing
[17:20] <ahayzen_> ah
[17:20] <ahayzen_> frecel, mp3 right?
[17:21] <frecel> it just stays at 0:00
[17:21] <frecel> mp3, I tried multiple files
[17:21] <ahayzen_> frecel, popey, we have seen some issues with some types of mp3 that don't play, jim said it could be something in gst...
[17:22] <ahayzen_> frecel, do u mind sending me one of the files then i can test, if i suffer the same i'll send it to jim so he can debug
[17:22] <frecel> ok
[17:22] <daker> ahayzen_: me too some mp3 don't play
[17:22] <ahayzen_> so now everyone tells us mp3s don't play!
[17:23] <ahayzen_> lol
[17:23] <popey> ☻
[17:23]  * ahayzen_ hugs flac
[17:23] <popey> Some music app *that* turned out to be ㋛
[17:23] <ahayzen_> hah lol
[17:24] <daker> ahayzen_: they worked before, it just with the switch to media-hub...
[17:24] <ahayzen_> frecel, either a gdrive/dropbox share or ahayzen at gmail dot com
[17:24] <ahayzen_> daker, yeah thts wht we suspected.... media-hub moved to gst1.0 from 0.1 right?
[17:24] <frecel> ahayzen_: I just started uploading it to my web server
[17:24] <ahayzen_> frecel, ah cool
[17:26] <frecel> ahayzen_:  http://opensourceteaparty.com/03.mp3
[17:26] <frecel> :D
[17:27] <ahayzen_> frecel, thanks
[17:27] <ahayzen_> frecel, yeah it doesn't work for me either
[17:28] <frecel> interesting
[17:28] <ahayzen_> frecel, i'll send a mail to the media-hub guys thanks for the file
[17:29] <ahayzen_> frecel, only difference i can spot to mp3s that do work is that yours is at a VBR
[17:29] <ahayzen_> frecel, or it seems to be
[17:34] <frecel> ahayzen_: I wouldn't know, the only thing I know about audio is how to change the volume
[17:35] <popey> heh
[17:35] <ahayzen_> frecel, hah no worries
[17:36] <frecel> popey: so are you passing apps that get framework errors or do I have to wait until the review tools get updated?
[17:37] <popey> frecel: I'm not sure what to do tbh
[17:37] <popey> my general rule is if it fails, I dont let it in
[17:37] <popey> ahayzen_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7560219/
[17:38] <popey> when playing a song from the music scope to launch music app
[17:38] <popey> brb
[17:38] <ahayzen_> frecel, i've made a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1325241 please feel free to add more info... i'm ust pinging a mail direct to them as well
[17:38] <daker> ahayzen_: i think yes, the old qtmultimedia backend was gst 0.1 and now media-hub is using 1.0
[17:39] <frecel> so launchpad has pirated music on it now
[17:40] <ahayzen_> frecel, ah well it was gonna happen
[17:40] <daker> ahayzen_: Jono's album(Trilogy) doesn't play
[17:40] <ahayzen_> popey, as in the music didn't play ?
[17:40] <ahayzen_> daker, is that a good or bad thing ;) lol
[17:40] <frecel> well thats what he gets for leaving :D
[17:41] <ahayzen_> popey, ah i see if the app is already running it doesn't work
[17:42] <ahayzen_> popey, oh no it was just incredibly slow took like 30 seconds
[17:42] <ahayzen_> daker, feel free to add more info to the bug if you have any
[17:43] <daker> ahayzen_: done
[17:43] <popey> ahayzen_: it sat at 0
[17:44] <ahayzen_> popey, oh right was it an mp3?
[17:44] <ahayzen_> popey, thought you were saying the uri-handler was broken
[17:44] <popey> yeah, nothing plays
[17:44] <popey> inside the app
[17:44] <frecel> I also found an annoying thing that if you use the browser to play moosic from a service like grooveshark the screen has to be on otherwise playback stops
[17:44] <popey> all sit at 0:00
[17:44] <ahayzen_> is 'works for me' good enough? lol
[17:44] <popey> frecel: please file a bug, i think it's supposed to do that, but it's (IMO) mental
[17:45] <frecel> reading something in polish and typing in english is not good for my spelling
[17:45] <daker> frecel: known, the playback needs to passe from oxide to media-hub, so the playback doesn't work
[17:45] <daker> doesn't stop*
[17:45] <ahayzen_> popey, so wht exactly are you doing, eg is the has the app been started? you are clicking on a single track in the scope and it then doesn't play?
[17:50] <popey> ahayzen_: yes
[17:50] <popey> ahayzen_: lemme reboot and start fresh playing a song in the app
[17:50] <ahayzen_> popey, hmm i gotta go out for dinner i'll try when i get back
[17:53] <popey> ahayzen_: kk, enjoy
[17:55] <popey> yeah, reboot, opened app, added tracks to queue, hit play, no audio, and play indicator sits at 0:00
[18:37] <daker> popey: tail -f /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/media-hub.log
[18:37] <daker> then hit play
[18:38] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7560618/
[18:40] <daker> same thing for me
[18:40] <daker> it doesn't give any error
[18:41] <popey> [Sat May 31 19:37:57 2014] type=1400 audit(1401561478.425:198): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1901 profile="/usr/bin/media-hub-server" name=2F686F6D652F706861626C65742F4D757369632F4465204C6120536F756C2F332046656574204869676820616E6420526973696E672F4465204C6120536F756C202D20332046656574204869676820416E6420526973696E67202D203032202D20546865204D61676963204E756D6265722E6D7033 pid=2296 comm="media-hub-serve" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" 
[18:41] <popey> do you get apparmor denials in "dmesg -T | grep DEN"?
[18:41] <popey> oh, hang on
[18:41] <popey> bet my files are root owned because I adb pushed them
[18:42] <daker> ahaha
[18:42] <daker> i think so :D
[18:42] <daker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7560628/
[18:44] <creature> Can I configure multi-finger swipes in Ubuntu? So I could have two-finger-swipe-left to be "Go back" in the browser?
[18:44] <popey> \o/ plays
[18:44] <popey> ahayzen_: \o/ all works
[19:05] <doflaherty> are we able to use Qt3D in the SDK?  It doesn't seem to be installed on the phone
[19:10] <frecel> I got an UI bug, replicated it twice then connected the phone to my desktop to take a screenshot and can't replicate it anymore
[19:14] <popey> heh
[20:36] <ar1ekin> hello there
[20:39] <ar1ekin> i wanna give a try to ubuntu touch on my phone, but i didn't found any of my devices on list (either samsung galaxy young or samsung galaxy mini), does that leave me completly abandoned till ubuntu became available for this devices, or maybe differences aren't THAT immportant and i can get by with image for, for instance, samsung galaxy s ?
[20:45] <ar1ekin> anyone here ?
[23:12] <ahayzen_> popey, o/
[23:30] <popey> ahayzen: yo
[23:31] <ahayzen> popey, ok i'm confused i thought my file wasn't working but it now is
[23:31] <popey> ahayzen: yeah, works okay
[23:31] <ahayzen> popey, so everyone that copied the file ended up making them with owners of root rather than phablet?
[23:31] <popey> no
[23:31] <ahayzen> popey, so lesson is ... use MTP rather than adb push ?
[23:31] <popey> well, yes
[23:31] <popey> but mtp is busted for me
[23:32] <popey> it copies half the files then gives up
[23:32] <popey> "file a bug"
[23:32] <ahayzen> popey, ah i've had tht nautilus just gives up 1 out of 10 times
[23:33] <ahayzen> popey, otherwise how is/did the testing go of the mediascanner2 things? did the album art work?
[23:33] <daker> popey: me too
[23:37] <ahayzen> daker, popey, is there a bug for this?
[23:37]  * ahayzen thought it had improved since moving to trusty desktop
[23:38] <daker> whenever i tries to copy files using mtp, mtp stops at the first files then throws an error "error object..."
[23:42] <popey> i thought it was just me
[23:42] <popey> seems not
[23:43] <popey> ahayzen: go outside in 1 min, ISS going over
[23:43] <popey> bug 1317263
[23:43] <ahayzen> popey, i've done tht before....damn i'm in a high light pollution area :/
[23:44] <ahayzen> popey, strange watching a white dot go across the sky thinking...there are always people on that
[23:47] <popey> cloudy here
[23:47] <popey> cant see it
[23:47] <popey> i have stellarium open so i pretend to see it
[23:48] <popey> Elleo showed me his port of stellarium to ubuntu phone, looked quite neat on a phone
[23:51] <Elleo> yeah, still need to figure out what's going wrong with the touch input on that
[23:51] <Elleo> but I've had a sudden proliferation of side-projects lately, so might not get back to it for a while
[23:53] <ahayzen> popey, hah ... omg stellarium on Ubuntu Phone would be awesome
[23:53] <ahayzen> popey, like basically Google Sky for Ubuntu Touch?
[23:54] <Elleo> ahayzen: yeah, except the digital compass in the phone is working in Ubuntu Touch yet, so you can't do the nifty thing of holding it against the sky yet
[23:54] <Elleo> isn't working*
[23:55] <ahayzen> Elleo, ah damn but it would still be awesome to have it :)
[23:55] <Elleo> yeah, and I expect the lower level folks will get the compass stuff implemented in the future