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daftykinsging: i wouldn't attempt to try and set all that there00:00
diddledanhttp://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-1tb-840-evo-series-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-8WCN.html?src=300:30
diddledan1TB SSD00:31
diddledanfor 359.9900:31
diddledanthat's a reasonable amount of storage00:31
daftykinsEVO = TLC00:31
daftykinsboooo00:31
diddledanI should know why that's a negative point00:32
daftykinstriple level cell has very low program/erase cycles00:33
diddledanaah00:33
daftykinslimiting the lifespan pretty seriously compared with MLC00:33
diddledanwhat's the M stand for?00:33
daftykinskinda amusing that the distinctions are single level cell, multi level cell and triple level cell though :(00:33
diddledanaah00:34
daftykinsmulti triple? lawl00:34
diddledanweird00:34
diddledandabs also have this: http://www.dabs.com/products/netgear-readynas-104--4-bay--1-2ghz-512mb--diskless--8K4Q.html?src=300:34
diddledancompletely irrelevant to the SSD discussion, however00:35
* diddledan browsing their pay-day deals00:35
daftykinshowever, if i could find the VAT button...00:35
diddledandamn you foreigners00:35
diddledanat the bottom in the footer block it tells you to "change"00:36
diddledanlast line before the logos00:36
diddledan"All prices displayed are quoted inclusive of VAT unless otherwise stated change"00:36
daftykins299.99...00:37
daftykinsyeah that's only £34 cheaper than usual00:39
daftykinsD:00:50
dogmatic69anyone know of a wifi card that supports AP in ubuntu 14.x01:02
daftykinsAP?01:09
daftykinsi'd hope all support access points ;)01:09
dogmatic69not from what I am reading :/01:09
daftykinswhat do you mean by AP?01:10
dogmatic69basically I want my pc to make wifi magic so my phone can connect to it01:10
dogmatic69pc is miles away from wifi, so when ever I am at the pc phone is using 3g01:10
daftykinsis the PC cabled in?01:11
dogmatic69ye01:11
daftykinswhy don't you just buy a WAP that has a switch in, so you can add a second wireless LAN beside the PC?01:11
dogmatic69router -> cat5 -> pc -> wifi -> phone01:11
dogmatic69wap?01:12
daftykinswireless access point01:12
daftykinsoh so it already has wireless hardware?01:12
dogmatic69I have a 'wap' and it crashed my network. Was flooding with packets01:12
daftykinsthat makes no sense01:12
daftykinsunless you looped a connection and caused a broadcast storm01:13
dogmatic69maybe01:13
daftykinsdo you still have that? what kind is it?01:13
dogmatic69it was a thing that connected to cat and made wifi01:13
dogmatic69in a box somewhere01:13
daftykinsdig it out!01:13
daftykinswhere i used to live, i had the router at one end of the house but my equipment at the other... so i had a WAP sit down there plugged into my switch so i could get my wireless devices on down there01:14
daftykinsrouter 1 -> cat5e -> switch -> devices & WAP ->01:15
dogmatic69I have router -> cat -> switch -> switch -> pc :D01:15
daftykinswhy two switches 0o01:16
dogmatic6924 port with loads of things -> 5 port with pc things01:16
dogmatic69or 8 port actually01:17
daftykinsthe benefit of the WAP is you won't have to have the PC on just to provide wireless to the phone01:17
dogmatic6924 has nas, server, rpi, couple priters etc01:17
dogmatic69well the pc is on 24x701:17
daftykinsi see01:18
dogmatic69as it is logging data from arduinos :)01:18
daftykinsso assuming it's a single port WAP, as in there's only one LAN port on it, i'd factory reset it and slap it into the switch there01:18
daftykinsif you see every port's activity light flashing, maybe it's damaged and causing a broadcast storm01:19
dogmatic69will try find it laster01:19
daftykinsbut... that would be weird01:19
diddledaninteresting01:26
diddledansky have me in a /29 subnet01:26
diddledandoes that mean they've actually assigned me the whole subnet but only assigning the one IP via dhcp?01:26
daftykinsturn off NAT and test ;D01:29
diddledanthe sky routers don't let you do that :-p01:30
daftykinsISP gear D: evul01:31
daftykinsah i was looking up SSD benchmarks01:31
daftykinsdiddledan: http://anandtech.com/bench/product/743?vs=96201:35
whowhat@search finisher baldacci05:31
mapphey05:43
shaunomorn05:48
SuperMattmorning all07:15
* SuperMatt waves from work07:16
diddledanallo allo07:16
diddledanwork on a saturdy?07:16
SuperMattyeah, covering a shift07:16
SuperMattnice little bit of overtime07:16
SuperMattI had no other plans today07:16
SuperMattalthough my plans seem like they could have involved a lot more bed07:16
MartijnVdS8-)07:22
mapphello07:22
mapp:)07:22
* mapp is off07:23
SuperMattword up07:23
SuperMattI wondered what that smell was07:23
mappgoing to the casino tonight to watch the boxing07:23
mappbut thats about al07:23
mappl07:23
mappapparently genting's going to be packed tonight and they reckon theyll have to turn people away07:28
mappdoubt it myself07:28
SuperMattis it a ticketed event?07:29
mappna07:30
mappstarts at 10pm or scheduled to..cant see it starting then though07:30
mappgrosvenor doing 8quid and you get a burger/pint and 5 quid gaming voucher07:30
SuperMattI'd make sure you get there early, if I'm honest. if the casino are saying it's going to busy, it really is likely to be quite mental as they have probably heard a lot of chatter about the night07:35
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:40
SirMarkyI have an issue with the unity sidebar. Selecting a program icon wont' take me to any window sitting on a different workspace, only the ones in the current. Can anyone help?10:53
penguin42there seems to be an annoying  gotcha upgrading from 12.10; the gui quits with no-error - it's only from the commandline you see it's moaning about /tmp being mounted noexec (which seems perfectly reasonable)10:58
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penguin42right, so my dads main machine is now on Trusty, should keep that one happy for a while - now if I can get him to update his other machine s that would be grand17:59
penguin42answering the 'whats using all my disk space' on his other machine was more interesting - ~50G of mozilla crash reports17:59
popeyblimey18:08
popeyi should update my mums machine from 12.04 to 14.0418:08
daftykinslmao18:09
daftykinspopey: hi sir, would btrfs be a good solution for a multi-disk setup where someone's after reliable fast storage with purely motherboard SATA ports + disks?18:10
popeypip pip18:13
popeyI guess so, yeah18:14
popeyit doesn't do raid 5 yet though18:14
popeyor raid5-like18:14
daftykinsmmm, i saw talk of 0, 1 and 1018:15
daftykinshaven't gotten my head around the tech yet though, i find everything's written at a high level18:15
popeyi have 12 disks in raid 118:20
popeybut will move to raid 5 at some point18:20
popey#btrfs is friendly18:20
daftykinsah-har18:20
daftykinsta very much18:20
daftykinshmm, that is not a very family friendly nickname18:21
popeyʘ‿ಠ18:21
daftykinshaha that's the best monocle face i've seen18:21
penguin42popey: can you do raid50 - that's a nice trade off18:35
popeynot yet18:37
popey19:20:43 < popey> darksatanic: do we have an ETA on RAID5-like?18:37
popey19:21:25 < darkthing> No.18:37
popey19:24:02 < darkthing> Unless you want to run the current incomplete version for testing, of course18:37
penguin42yeh that's a great way to store your data :-)18:38
popeyindeed18:39
daftykinsthis guy i know wants to put together a little home server, but i'd rather stick to the land of hardware RAID which i understand :D18:40
* penguin42 has a 2nd drive he needs to put in a box tonight and make it RAIDed - after the SSD failed last week18:44
* penguin42 could do with avoiding having to do a reinstall, and setting up RAID with a single drive is a bit tricky as I remember18:46
popeyconverting to btrfs is easier ☻18:47
* penguin42 still doesn't fancy that18:48
daftykinshaha18:48
daftykinsyeah, it's knowing what to do in the event of an emergency that's important i think18:49
daftykinsand how much effort it is to maintain18:49
penguin42daftykins: Actually the trickier thing is my parents can't rescue it if I'm out or away - they can hit reset18:55
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)19:38
* penguin42 yaawwwns at bigcalm19:38
popeypip pip19:47
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