[00:00] <daftykins> ging: i wouldn't attempt to try and set all that there
[00:30] <diddledan> http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-1tb-840-evo-series-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-8WCN.html?src=3
[00:31] <diddledan> 1TB SSD
[00:31] <diddledan> for 359.99
[00:31] <diddledan> that's a reasonable amount of storage
[00:31] <daftykins> EVO = TLC
[00:31] <daftykins> boooo
[00:32] <diddledan> I should know why that's a negative point
[00:33] <daftykins> triple level cell has very low program/erase cycles
[00:33] <diddledan> aah
[00:33] <daftykins> limiting the lifespan pretty seriously compared with MLC
[00:33] <diddledan> what's the M stand for?
[00:33] <daftykins> kinda amusing that the distinctions are single level cell, multi level cell and triple level cell though :(
[00:34] <diddledan> aah
[00:34] <daftykins> multi triple? lawl
[00:34] <diddledan> weird
[00:34] <diddledan> dabs also have this: http://www.dabs.com/products/netgear-readynas-104--4-bay--1-2ghz-512mb--diskless--8K4Q.html?src=3
[00:35] <diddledan> completely irrelevant to the SSD discussion, however
[00:35]  * diddledan browsing their pay-day deals
[00:35] <daftykins> however, if i could find the VAT button...
[00:35] <diddledan> damn you foreigners
[00:36] <diddledan> at the bottom in the footer block it tells you to "change"
[00:36] <diddledan> last line before the logos
[00:36] <diddledan> "All prices displayed are quoted inclusive of VAT unless otherwise stated change"
[00:37] <daftykins> 299.99...
[00:39] <daftykins> yeah that's only £34 cheaper than usual
[00:50] <daftykins> D:
[01:02] <dogmatic69> anyone know of a wifi card that supports AP in ubuntu 14.x
[01:09] <daftykins> AP?
[01:09] <daftykins> i'd hope all support access points ;)
[01:09] <dogmatic69> not from what I am reading :/
[01:10] <daftykins> what do you mean by AP?
[01:10] <dogmatic69> basically I want my pc to make wifi magic so my phone can connect to it
[01:10] <dogmatic69> pc is miles away from wifi, so when ever I am at the pc phone is using 3g
[01:11] <daftykins> is the PC cabled in?
[01:11] <dogmatic69> ye
[01:11] <daftykins> why don't you just buy a WAP that has a switch in, so you can add a second wireless LAN beside the PC?
[01:11] <dogmatic69> router -> cat5 -> pc -> wifi -> phone
[01:12] <dogmatic69> wap?
[01:12] <daftykins> wireless access point
[01:12] <daftykins> oh so it already has wireless hardware?
[01:12] <dogmatic69> I have a 'wap' and it crashed my network. Was flooding with packets
[01:12] <daftykins> that makes no sense
[01:13] <daftykins> unless you looped a connection and caused a broadcast storm
[01:13] <dogmatic69> maybe
[01:13] <daftykins> do you still have that? what kind is it?
[01:13] <dogmatic69> it was a thing that connected to cat and made wifi
[01:13] <dogmatic69> in a box somewhere
[01:13] <daftykins> dig it out!
[01:14] <daftykins> where i used to live, i had the router at one end of the house but my equipment at the other... so i had a WAP sit down there plugged into my switch so i could get my wireless devices on down there
[01:15] <daftykins> router 1 -> cat5e -> switch -> devices & WAP ->
[01:15] <dogmatic69> I have router -> cat -> switch -> switch -> pc :D
[01:16] <daftykins> why two switches 0o
[01:16] <dogmatic69> 24 port with loads of things -> 5 port with pc things
[01:17] <dogmatic69> or 8 port actually
[01:17] <daftykins> the benefit of the WAP is you won't have to have the PC on just to provide wireless to the phone
[01:17] <dogmatic69> 24 has nas, server, rpi, couple priters etc
[01:17] <dogmatic69> well the pc is on 24x7
[01:18] <daftykins> i see
[01:18] <dogmatic69> as it is logging data from arduinos :)
[01:18] <daftykins> so assuming it's a single port WAP, as in there's only one LAN port on it, i'd factory reset it and slap it into the switch there
[01:19] <daftykins> if you see every port's activity light flashing, maybe it's damaged and causing a broadcast storm
[01:19] <dogmatic69> will try find it laster
[01:19] <daftykins> but... that would be weird
[01:26] <diddledan> interesting
[01:26] <diddledan> sky have me in a /29 subnet
[01:26] <diddledan> does that mean they've actually assigned me the whole subnet but only assigning the one IP via dhcp?
[01:29] <daftykins> turn off NAT and test ;D
[01:30] <diddledan> the sky routers don't let you do that :-p
[01:31] <daftykins> ISP gear D: evul
[01:31] <daftykins> ah i was looking up SSD benchmarks
[01:35] <daftykins> diddledan: http://anandtech.com/bench/product/743?vs=962
[05:31] <whowhat> @search finisher baldacci
[05:43] <mapp> hey
[05:48] <shauno> morn
[07:15] <SuperMatt> morning all
[07:16]  * SuperMatt waves from work
[07:16] <diddledan> allo allo
[07:16] <diddledan> work on a saturdy?
[07:16] <SuperMatt> yeah, covering a shift
[07:16] <SuperMatt> nice little bit of overtime
[07:16] <SuperMatt> I had no other plans today
[07:16] <SuperMatt> although my plans seem like they could have involved a lot more bed
[07:22] <MartijnVdS> 8-)
[07:22] <mapp> hello
[07:22] <mapp> :)
[07:23]  * mapp is off
[07:23] <SuperMatt> word up
[07:23] <SuperMatt> I wondered what that smell was
[07:23] <mapp> going to the casino tonight to watch the boxing
[07:23] <mapp> but thats about al
[07:23] <mapp> l
[07:28] <mapp> apparently genting's going to be packed tonight and they reckon theyll have to turn people away
[07:28] <mapp> doubt it myself
[07:29] <SuperMatt> is it a ticketed event?
[07:30] <mapp> na
[07:30] <mapp> starts at 10pm or scheduled to..cant see it starting then though
[07:30] <mapp> grosvenor doing 8quid and you get a burger/pint and 5 quid gaming voucher
[07:35] <SuperMatt> I'd make sure you get there early, if I'm honest. if the casino are saying it's going to busy, it really is likely to be quite mental as they have probably heard a lot of chatter about the night
[09:40] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:53] <SirMarky> I have an issue with the unity sidebar. Selecting a program icon wont' take me to any window sitting on a different workspace, only the ones in the current. Can anyone help?
[10:58] <penguin42> there seems to be an annoying  gotcha upgrading from 12.10; the gui quits with no-error - it's only from the commandline you see it's moaning about /tmp being mounted noexec (which seems perfectly reasonable)
[17:59] <penguin42> right, so my dads main machine is now on Trusty, should keep that one happy for a while - now if I can get him to update his other machine s that would be grand
[17:59] <penguin42> answering the 'whats using all my disk space' on his other machine was more interesting - ~50G of mozilla crash reports
[18:08] <popey> blimey
[18:08] <popey> i should update my mums machine from 12.04 to 14.04
[18:09] <daftykins> lmao
[18:10] <daftykins> popey: hi sir, would btrfs be a good solution for a multi-disk setup where someone's after reliable fast storage with purely motherboard SATA ports + disks?
[18:13] <popey> pip pip
[18:14] <popey> I guess so, yeah
[18:14] <popey> it doesn't do raid 5 yet though
[18:14] <popey> or raid5-like
[18:15] <daftykins> mmm, i saw talk of 0, 1 and 10
[18:15] <daftykins> haven't gotten my head around the tech yet though, i find everything's written at a high level
[18:20] <popey> i have 12 disks in raid 1
[18:20] <popey> but will move to raid 5 at some point
[18:20] <popey> #btrfs is friendly
[18:20] <daftykins> ah-har
[18:20] <daftykins> ta very much
[18:21] <daftykins> hmm, that is not a very family friendly nickname
[18:21] <popey> ʘ‿ಠ
[18:21] <daftykins> haha that's the best monocle face i've seen
[18:35] <penguin42> popey: can you do raid50 - that's a nice trade off
[18:37] <popey> not yet
[18:37] <popey> 19:20:43 < popey> darksatanic: do we have an ETA on RAID5-like?
[18:37] <popey> 19:21:25 < darkthing> No.
[18:37] <popey> 19:24:02 < darkthing> Unless you want to run the current incomplete version for testing, of course
[18:38] <penguin42> yeh that's a great way to store your data :-)
[18:39] <popey> indeed
[18:40] <daftykins> this guy i know wants to put together a little home server, but i'd rather stick to the land of hardware RAID which i understand :D
[18:44]  * penguin42 has a 2nd drive he needs to put in a box tonight and make it RAIDed - after the SSD failed last week
[18:46]  * penguin42 could do with avoiding having to do a reinstall, and setting up RAID with a single drive is a bit tricky as I remember
[18:47] <popey> converting to btrfs is easier ☻
[18:48]  * penguin42 still doesn't fancy that
[18:48] <daftykins> haha
[18:49] <daftykins> yeah, it's knowing what to do in the event of an emergency that's important i think
[18:49] <daftykins> and how much effort it is to maintain
[18:55] <penguin42> daftykins: Actually the trickier thing is my parents can't rescue it if I'm out or away - they can hit reset
[19:38] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[19:38]  * penguin42 yaawwwns at bigcalm
[19:47] <popey> pip pip