[01:33] <nhaines> Roguehorse: good morning!
[01:36] <Roguehorse> LOL! Not quite morning anymore is it : )
[01:37] <nhaines> No, but it *does* adequately illustrate the nature of IRC.  :)
[01:38] <akk> Good $curtime!
[01:38] <Roguehorse> seems that way doesn't it; still getting used to the flow of IRC
[01:39] <nhaines> IRC: More immediate than email; much lazier than SMS.
[01:39] <nhaines> I've been using it for 20 years.  You get used to it eventually.  :)
[01:40] <Roguehorse> true, it's often odd to think back through the years how my communication types have changed as well as societies
[01:40] <Roguehorse> I've only been involved for a few months : )
[01:42] <Roguehorse> MOst of the people around me are "average" tech users, Facebook, Skype, etc.. Mostly just Facebook
[01:43] <nhaines> Perfect Ubuntu candidates, though.  :)
[01:43] <nhaines> But that's fine.  Everyone starts somewhere and everyone eventually finds something awesome they want to learn more of. :)
[01:44] <Roguehorse> I wish, all in the house are pro-Microsoft ('cept me : ))
[01:46] <nhaines> There's nothing wrong with Windows, but nothing extraordinary either.  Maybe backwards-compatibility.  They pour a lot of effort into that very successfully.
[01:46] <Roguehorse> I switched to Ubuntu with Karmic...did a few years of openSUSE..now back on Kubuntu
[01:47] <Roguehorse> Nothing wrong with it's development (other than the obvious flaws) I just get tired of people trying to "force" me into using it
[01:47] <nhaines> Excellent. :)
[01:48] <Roguehorse> The same goes for Apple.. awsome hardware and the software is nice too, but then I'm locked in
[01:48] <nhaines> Lucid was really nice.  Precise really solid.  I'm thrilled with trusty.
[01:48] <Roguehorse> I don't like being locked in
[01:49] <Roguehorse> I'm enjoying Trusty too...except for this glitch I have with the plasma desktop. But that's a KDE issue I believe
[01:49] <nhaines> Apple hardware is all right.  The industrial design is stunning!  But the markup is also stunning, unfortunately.  ;)
[01:49] <Roguehorse> Well, supposedly all the "bells and whistles" are what one is paying for
[01:50] <Roguehorse> I have never owned any Apple product..even though my cousin has worked there 25+ years
[01:51] <Roguehorse> I hit him up for a job opp once, what a mistake that was.. LOL
[01:51] <nhaines> I worked with them a lot during college.  I remember when OS X first came out I opened up a terminal and told my boss "this is the best interface an Apple has had in 25 years," haha.
[01:51] <Roguehorse> : )
[01:52] <Roguehorse> I think they put out pretty good eye candy honestly
[01:53] <nhaines> Yup, it all looks very pretty.
[01:53] <nhaines> I think Ubuntu looks very clean.  The phone interface is certainly stunning.
[01:53] <Roguehorse> I got Snow Leopard running in a VM once via Empire EFI.. it was interesting
[01:53]  * ianorlin tihnks lxde +compton looks pretty
[01:55] <Roguehorse> Ubuntu and many of the derivitives do a very nice job....good quality dev going into most of the products
[01:55] <Roguehorse> I saw the phone during the release party, it is very nice, and yes, clean
[01:56] <nhaines> The phone interface feels good to use.
[01:56] <Roguehorse> ianorlin: I've tried a few of the other desktops..such as LXDE..I still seem to come back to KDE
[01:57] <Roguehorse> I may get one once my contract runs up..I just picked up this Android Razor not long ago though so I have a ways to go
[01:58]  * ianorlin knows of a derivitive of lubuntu that has a fake unity session but it doesn't have dash but uses much less memory
[02:03] <Roguehorse> Define "Fake Unity" ?
[02:04] <Roguehorse> When Thomas Jefferson wrote "All men are created equal" what do you think he meant? - history class ... I think it was a loaded question
[02:05] <nhaines> Roguehorse: means looks like Unity but isn't actually running Unity.  :)
[02:05] <akk> Sure. Obviously it's debatable whether he included slaves, or women.
[02:06] <nhaines> akk: that's because by "men" he meant "people".
[02:06] <akk> nhaines: but "people" didn't actually include those people I mentioned.
[02:06] <nhaines> akk: probably not.
[02:06] <Roguehorse> nhaines: Ok, thanks : )
[02:07] <Roguehorse> It really seemed to "only" include white English people
[02:07] <nhaines> I *really* have to stop watching Kitchen Nightmares while I'm eating.
[02:07] <Roguehorse> LOL! - for sure
[02:09] <Roguehorse> I have a 4yr old son so my TV gets very limited to mostly channel 123 (whatever that is)
[02:09] <akk> My TV gets ... the signal from the DVD player.
[02:09] <nhaines> Make him watch Cosmos on Sundays.
[02:10] <nhaines> I'm watching on Hulu Plus right now.
[02:10] <Roguehorse> My wife controls it at night - and she likes 19 kids and counting or house hunters mostly
[02:11] <Roguehorse> I watch Netflix sometimes in the morning if I can get away with it
[02:11] <Roguehorse> I've been watching Arrow - pretty cool show
[02:11]  * ianorlin is watching hockey
[02:12] <Roguehorse> I've started playing over at code.he.net too - I think I want to build on what they started
[02:13] <Roguehorse> I lost interest in sports a long time ago
[02:14] <nhaines> Creating is invigorating.  :)
[02:14] <akk> Doing things is more fun than watching other people do things.
[02:14] <Roguehorse> I agree - many people have told me I need to get involved in a "project" meaning codeing rather than just writing stuff on my own
[02:15] <akk> Or, as Ursula K. LeGuin wrote once, "sports are neat to do but dull to talk about".
[02:15] <nhaines> akk: +1
[02:15] <Roguehorse> I like what they started and want to continue to develop it
[02:15] <Roguehorse> akk: +1
[02:16] <nhaines> Roguehorse: well, collaboration is a really good way to get started and learn best practices.  :)
[02:22] <Roguehorse> I agree, I've just had a hard time finding the right team+project that motivated me
[02:23] <Roguehorse> I thought I would find some people at the university, but most of those people didn't really care about dev - they just wanted to get the work done and get out
[02:24] <nhaines> There's a nice catharsis in that too.  :)
[02:24] <Roguehorse> I've had people throw their projects and ideas at me but not many of them I found interesting
[02:25] <nhaines> Well, that's the difference between schoolwork and ownership of a project.  :)
[02:25] <nhaines> Or investment in, maybe.
[02:26] <Roguehorse> agreed, I didn't meet any students like me with a desire to create or take ownership of a project
[02:27] <Roguehorse> My biggest problem is I dabble in too much instead of digging into a few things
[02:27] <akk> That's sad. I remember lots of late-night hack sessions in school, completely unrelated to any classes.
[02:27] <nhaines> Nah, that's a good way to get a sense for stuff.  You just have to graduate to digging in.  :)
[02:28] <Roguehorse> akk: Lucky for you! You found a good group.
[02:28] <akk> Yeah -- there were pretty good geeky groups in the schools I went to.
[02:28] <akk> Learned a lot, not from classes but from hanging around just trying things
[02:28] <Roguehorse> also take into account I'm 44 and not 24 anymore : )
[02:28] <akk> or coming up with hacks to get around ridiculous quotas on student accounts --
[02:29] <nhaines> akk: 640K should be enough disk space for anyone.
[02:29] <akk> much later, I find myself wondering if they set the ridiculous quotas to see who'd find ways around them.
[02:29] <ianorlin> the sad tihng is I got really into linux right after I graduated UCLA
[02:29] <Roguehorse> nhaines: LOL! Right : )
[02:29] <akk> nhaines: It was way lower than that at one school. You really couldn't keep email around (unless you had a workaround).
[02:30] <nhaines> akk: that's what POP3 was made for.  :)
[02:30] <akk> I don't think POP existed then.
[02:30] <akk> (our mail came to us UPHILL! BOTH WAYS! IN THE SNOW! :)
[02:30] <nhaines> UUCP?  :)
[02:31] <akk> yeah, we did have that.
[02:31] <Roguehorse> akk: ROTFLMAO!!
[02:31] <ianorlin> imap is nice now if you have multiple machines or dual boot
[02:31] <akk> What we ended up doing was forming a group of friends where we'd all tar our files together and put them in one person's homedir
[02:31] <Roguehorse> I still just use imap
[02:31] <akk> and that person would be over quota the next morning
[02:31] <akk> then the next day someone else would do it.
[02:31] <akk> (and the day's over-quota person would borrow an account from somebody else).
[02:32] <Roguehorse> Well, since I'm an online student it's different
[02:32] <akk> At another school we found a much more clever way.
[02:33] <Roguehorse> akk: You really had to go through hurdles!
[02:33] <Roguehorse> Good problem solving skill development though
[02:33] <akk> You can write a C program that opens a file in write mode, seeks a huge amount forward (like, more than the whole filesystem's size) then writes a single byte and closes it.
[02:33] <Roguehorse> If it's not a challenge, we don't learn
[02:33] <akk> What you get is a file with a "hole" in it
[02:34] <akk> but if you ls it, it will appear to be so big
[02:34] <akk> that when the quota system runs, it overflows and turns negative :)
[02:34] <akk> You just have to du your homedir and figure out how much negative it has to go, then calculate the right amount to seek, and do that every evening.
[02:35] <akk> I learned a lot about filesystems from that.
[02:35] <ianorlin> why wouldn't usage size be shown as unsigned?
[02:35] <Roguehorse> akk: I guess you would! Necessity is definitely the mother of invention
[02:36] <akk> (well, not filesytems as in kernel code, but as in inodes and such)
[02:36] <nhaines> Okay, that made me lol.
[02:38] <akk> ianorlin: Yes, it should have been unsigned, but that wasn't how they wrote the program.
[02:39] <akk> This was before BSD with built-in filesystem quotas, so it was just a program somebody had written that ran once a day.
[02:39] <akk> I think it was ... 4.1? and quotas came in with 4.2? but I might be off-by-one.
[02:40] <Roguehorse> back in "the-day" I think it was easier to find work-arounds to homebrews
[02:41] <akk> Looks like it's finally dark enough to test my raspi no-ir camera setup ...
[02:41] <Roguehorse> now we have decades of bug fixes that prevent much of those old/fun jobs
[02:42] <Roguehorse> I heard someone say that some programs that are old enough have had bugs found 60+ years later
[02:43] <ianorlin> finding bugs is fun though
[02:43] <Roguehorse> One of the guys in our LUG picked up a b-black at the makers fair
[02:43] <akk> 60! That would be an old program.
[02:43] <akk> Beaglebones are much nicer than RPis, reall.
[02:43] <akk> +y
[02:43] <Roguehorse> I wish I could remember which one it was but it was the length of time that stuck with me.
[02:44] <Roguehorse> akk: Yeah, he was talking about doing one of those combo-supercomputer things maybe
[02:44] <Roguehorse> what are those called again?
[02:46] <ianorlin> clusters?
[02:46] <akk> Cluster sounds right.
[02:46] <Roguehorse> well yes, but there's another term..darnit!
[02:46] <akk> Okay, this is not promising -- I put a glass of hot water in front of the camera and the photo still shows nothing.
[02:48] <Roguehorse> Beowulf
[02:49] <Roguehorse> akk: Gotta love that bug fixing : )
[02:49] <akk> Hmm, apparently you have to have a pretty serious IR illuminator too.
[02:49] <akk> I have one on order but it hasn't arrived yet.
[02:49] <akk> So much for finding out what those big cat-looking tracks in the yard were tonight.
[02:49]  * akk goes to turn the pi off and turn the hot water into cocoa
[02:50] <Roguehorse> plan B: executed
[02:50] <nhaines> Beowulf?
[02:50] <nhaines> Hwæt! wē Gār-Dena in ġeār-dagum, þēod-cyninga, þrym ġefrūnon, hū ðā æþelingas ellen fremedon.
[02:50] <Roguehorse> nhaines: I Think so....
[02:50] <Roguehorse> is that Danish?
[02:51] <nhaines> It's English.  Or more accurately, englisc.
[02:52] <Roguehorse> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_cluster
[02:52] <darthrobot> Title: [Beowulf cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
[02:52] <Roguehorse> : )
[02:52] <Roguehorse> Seems like a relatively popular project these days
[02:52] <akk> A beowulf cluster out of slow things like beaglebones or pis seems like ... well, I guess I've built plenty of silly pointless things too, I shouldn't criticize.
[02:53] <akk> Since building it is the point, not getting a practical useful thing out of it.
[02:53] <nhaines> Roguehorse: it's the first sentence in the Old English poem Beowulf.
[02:53] <Roguehorse> kind of like the guy who did the Star Wars movie in the terminal mode?
[02:54] <nhaines> Tolkien translates it as: "Lo! the glory of the kings of the people of the Spear-Danes in days of old we have heard tell, how those princes did deeds of valour."
[02:54] <akk> yes! That was hilarious.
[02:54] <Roguehorse> nhaines: Ah! I think I read that freshman year in high school
[02:54] <akk> Leia with the @ for hair.
[02:54]  * akk hides from pleia2 
[02:55] <Roguehorse> LOL! : )
[02:55] <nhaines> Roguehorse: the poem is not very practical to translate into poetic modern English.  I've only started Tolkien's prose translation but it is imminently readable.
[02:56] <Roguehorse> imminently?
[02:58] <nhaines> typo for eminently.
[03:01] <Roguehorse> gotcha
[03:03] <Roguehorse> I have this guy who contacted me out of the blue and wants to give a presentation at the June EBLUG meeting
[03:03] <nhaines> Ooh, congrats!
[03:03] <Roguehorse> should I prepare a backup presentation if he doesn't show? I have never met this guy before
[03:03] <Roguehorse> nhaines: thanks
[03:05] <nhaines> It's always good to have a backup presentation.  I have about three or four I can give at any time.
[03:05] <akk> +1
[03:05] <Roguehorse> which really doesn't mean much since I've only been involved since Sept
[03:05] <Roguehorse> hmm - Good thought
[03:06] <nhaines> The secret to getting involved is simply to get involved.
[03:06] <Roguehorse> Seems like
[03:06] <nhaines> As I've said to phone tech and new public speaker alike: you only have to *fake* like you're confident.  The audience can't tell the difference.
[03:06] <nhaines> And the best thing is, there's only so many times you can pretend to be confident giving a presentation before you're not faking it anymore.
[03:06] <akk> A backup presentation doesn't have to be super polished, but maybe have some interesting tips to share, or something like that.
[03:07] <akk> And of course, contact the speaker a couple of days before and confirm.
[03:07] <Roguehorse> oh for sure!
[03:08] <Roguehorse> I haven't been through the last minute "drop-out" yet but I know it's coming sooner or later - it's inevitable
[03:11] <Roguehorse> I have a presentation ready to go just in case
[03:11] <nhaines> There you go then.  ;0
[03:11] <nhaines> :)
[03:12] <Roguehorse> I should probably build a few for good measure
[03:12] <nhaines> "Untrustworthy meta keys" wouldn't just make an awesome name for a band.  It's also my chief complaint with this wireless keyboard.  :P
[03:12] <Roguehorse> : (
[03:13] <Roguehorse> I've been using this Logitech K800 for a few years now and I like it - hasn't let me down yet
[03:15] <Roguehorse> I like the LED key feature as my desk is next to the bed and sometimes I have to work in low-lighting while others are sleeping
[03:16] <nhaines> Shift almost always works, but sometimes Ctrl and Alt don't.  And since I have Right Alt mapped to Compose, it's doubly annoying.
[03:16] <Roguehorse> and the keys are quieter than other models
[03:16] <Roguehorse> nhaines: That would drive me nuts
[03:17] <nhaines> Roguehorse: it's just barely reliable enough to keep me from throwing it against the wall.
[03:17] <Roguehorse> can you re-build it?
[03:18] <nhaines> I don't have the technology.
[03:18] <Roguehorse> make it stronger, faster better like Steve Rogers?
[03:18] <Roguehorse> it was a shot
[03:19] <nhaines> I'm not convinced it's a mechanical problem.  :)
[03:19] <Roguehorse> no 6M keyboard then - so much for that series : (
[03:20] <Roguehorse> ?? Ahh
[03:20] <nhaines> I really want a nice mechanical switch keyboard but I prefer the ergonomic ones so I'm probably out of luck.
[03:20] <Roguehorse> Yeah - no dice there
[03:21]  * ianorlin is actually thinking of building a desktop
[03:21] <Roguehorse> I looked at those Lyz shared the link about that can have the custom Ubuntu meta key
[03:21] <nhaines> ianorlin: you'll need some nice wood, a table saw, and a miter box.
[03:22] <Roguehorse> They're cool - but no backlighting like I need and I'm sure the "clicking" is insane
[03:22] <Roguehorse> nhaines: : ) - good catch
[03:22] <Roguehorse> I have the old "Jerker" from Ikea
[03:23] <Roguehorse> I love this desk!
[03:23] <Roguehorse> ianorlin: Yes, I'm still a desktop user myself
[03:24] <Roguehorse> although I need to invest in a new mid tower
[03:24] <Roguehorse> I thought it would be cool to have a "gamer" case with LED's back in 2009 - now not so much
[03:25] <Roguehorse> my hands get cold from the front fans and my wife complains at night when I'm up late
[03:25] <Roguehorse> someone suggested switch out the fans but that would almost cost me as much as just getting a new case
[03:26] <akk> I like quiet machines. It irritates me when my fan comes on.
[03:27] <Roguehorse> this thing I have has 4 fans and the one on top is almost 6" - believe it or not it's pretty quiet still after all these years
[03:27] <Roguehorse> I have not had to replace a fan yet
[03:28] <Roguehorse> I think it's an Antec 6002 or something like that
[03:30] <Roguehorse> Antec 9002
[03:32] <Roguehorse> ianorlin: If you're going to build one - unless you're going to get totally crazy in pushing it gaming - stay conventional with the case. my .02
[03:33] <nhaines> Skeleton case for the win: http://www.maximumpc.com/files/imagecache/futureus_imagegallery_fullsize/gallery/img142.png
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[03:33] <nhaines> Alternative: Spider case: http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/story/61/19/001735/lian-li-pc-t1r-case.jpg
[03:33] <darthrobot> Content type: [image/jpeg] Size: [34752]
[03:37] <Roguehorse> That's great if you don't have pets or kids : )
[03:38] <Roguehorse> at my house that would be dead in less than 24hrs
[03:38] <Roguehorse> excuse me - unless you have a really safe place to keep it
[03:39] <Roguehorse> brb - dinner is being served (Chinese take-out) YAY!!
[03:42]  * ianorlin too
[03:44] <nhaines> Tonight I had Subway.
[03:46] <DonkeyHotei> subway was the place to go when scale was at the westin
[03:49]  * ianorlin has a subway within walking distance of my house
[03:50] <nhaines> DonkeyHotei: yup, closest and most western food.
[04:13] <Roguehorse> I should eat Subway more and Jack In The Box less : )
[04:13] <Roguehorse> I can throw a rock from my house and hit JB though
[04:16] <Roguehorse> darthrobot: speaking of images - have you ever played with webp?
[04:16] <darthrobot> Roguehorse: Error: "speaking" is not a valid command.
[04:16] <Roguehorse> How can that be - I don't have an iPhone?
[04:22] <DonkeyHotei_> R2Pi2: seen DonkeyHotei
[04:22] <DonkeyHotei_> Eureka: seen DonkeyHotei
[04:22] <Eureka> DonkeyHotei_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[04:25]  * DonkeyHotei is watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t77ormPX-RA
[04:25] <darthrobot> Title: [The Sacramento Press Club Presents The California Secretary of State Debate - YouTube]
[04:26] <Roguehorse> what's a press club?
[04:31] <DonkeyHotei> we're having an election on tuesday
[04:40] <Roguehorse> Who's we?
[04:41] <DonkeyHotei> this state
[04:41] <DonkeyHotei> this is a state-based channel, you know
[04:41] <Roguehorse> : ) I guess it's obvious I don't follow politics
[04:42] <Roguehorse> That's true
[04:43] <Roguehorse> Oh - the web page says June 3
[04:44] <Roguehorse> http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/statewide-elections/2014-primary/
[04:44] <darthrobot> Title: [June 3, 2014, Statewide Direct Primary Election - Elections & Voter Information - California Secretary of State]
[04:46] <Roguehorse> The percentage of voters who registered with no party preference has gone from 20.17% four years ago to 21.16% today, an increase of about 325,000 voters, the report said.
[04:46] <Roguehorse> That's interesting
[04:47] <DonkeyHotei> i am registered with no party affiliation
[04:47] <Roguehorse> seems to be the more popular stance these days
[04:48] <Roguehorse> Do you do vote by mail?
[04:50] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[04:50] <DonkeyHotei> and i'm a pollworker in the election
[04:51] <ianorlin> why do I want these parts for a pc build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6RQprH
[04:51] <darthrobot> Title: [Intel Core i5-4460, Cooler Master N200 - System Build - PCPartPicker]
[04:51] <Roguehorse> Oh? I remember as a kid some people would hold polls at their house - now I think it has to be a public place doesn't it?
[04:52] <ianorlin> there is one in a garage still by my house
[04:52] <DonkeyHotei> my precinct is a residential garage
[04:54] <Roguehorse> WOW! I have not seen one of those in a while. Seems the last couple of years has been at some local school.
[04:54] <Roguehorse> ianorlin: Is that a list you just put together for a desktop?
[04:54] <ianorlin> yes
[05:00] <Roguehorse> similar to what I have now - the sockets have changed though. Mine is 1156 and now they are at 1155
[05:00] <Roguehorse> p55m-ud4
[05:01] <ianorlin> no now they are 1150
[05:02] <Roguehorse> the one you picked is - scroll down to Gigabyte
[05:02] <Roguehorse> 16G of RAM is a lot - you planning on a lot of VM?
[05:02] <ianorlin> yes
[05:03] <Roguehorse> that will do it then : )
[05:03] <Roguehorse> I have 8 now but can go 16 - just don't have the money and I'm not hurting so ...
[05:04] <ianorlin> 1150 is actaully the newest socket though
[05:05] <Roguehorse> ah!
[05:06] <Roguehorse> how does the SSD and spinner work together?
[05:06] <Roguehorse> I have "zero" experience with SSD yet
[05:07] <ianorlin> I plan to have / on ssd and /home on hdd
[05:07] <Roguehorse> ok..I get it
[05:08] <ianorlin> so fast boots and launch of programs and more space for data
[05:08] <Roguehorse> I have a single 350G HDD and a 2TB Fantom eSATA drive
[05:10]  * ianorlin has 320 G HDD and 1tb usb3 hard drive connected to laptop
[05:10] <Roguehorse> so almost the same thing - pretty close
[05:12] <Roguehorse> I don't see a listing for gPU
[05:13] <ianorlin> yeah I don't really do much gaming and the intel integrated works for most things I do
[05:17] <Roguehorse> I understand - I have an Nvidia 9800GT and it works but sometimes it's hit and miss with the open source drivers
[05:18] <ianorlin> it doesn't do any better for 2d accelartion for price really either
[05:19] <Roguehorse> you think 380 watt supply will be enough? I've never mesured my actual consumption
[05:21] <ianorlin> pcpartpicker says without graphics card it will only use 187 watts
[05:22] <Roguehorse> one of these days I should measure resouirce usage when running VMs but I had a hard time getting good video play on a KVM machine
[05:23] <Roguehorse> I'm guessing that really had to do with the drivers though - obviously not the PS
[05:24] <Roguehorse> That seems like a cool site giving all that feedback - I bought all my parts from Fry's based on a budget and some research
[05:29] <Roguehorse> http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5-760%20BV80605001908AN%20(BX80605I5760).html - my older i5
[05:29] <darthrobot> [404] Title: [Page not found]
[05:30] <nhaines> Well that's portentious.
[05:32] <Roguehorse> looks like the 1156 socket got killed in 2011
[05:40] <Roguehorse> DS Cube Black Edition Silent Cube - this looks like a nice case but I can't tell how to access the drive bays?
[06:04] <Roguehorse> http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-case-vsk3000 - I like this case too - no fans in the front or light to annoy the wife when I'm up late and she's sleeping
[06:04] <darthrobot> Title: [Antec VSK-3000 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (VSK-3000) - PCPartPicker]
[06:05] <Roguehorse> holy cow! 11pm - I'm out - Goodnight : )
[15:17] <Roguehorse> Good Morning
[17:41] <pleia2> good morning
[17:59] <pleia2> if anyone wants to pitch in, we're always look for folks to help us write summaries for the ubuntu weekly newsletter https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en
[17:59] <darthrobot> [R: docs.google.com] Title: [Ubuntu Weekly News Prep Page for Issue 370 - Google Docs]
[17:59] <pleia2> we have editors to clean up summaries if you're concerned, so don't be shy :)