[04:46] morning all and sundry [04:49] hi captine [04:50] hi [08:34] hello Kilos and theblazehen [08:35] ai why does apt autoremove want to remove python-pil??? [08:35] naughty apt [08:47] hi kbmonkey [08:48] apt be evil [08:48] use aptitude [08:56] hey kbmonkey [08:56] and Kilos [08:56] TIL about VirtualGL :D [08:56] hi theblazehen [08:56] Can push graphics to my machine with a GPU [08:57] Processing to a VM [08:57] And rendering to my netbook [09:01] what? remote gpu processing? no way... [09:01] kbmonkey: Yeah, thats what I thought :D [09:01] Hooks opengl calls [09:03] is that the primus package theblazehen ? [09:03] oh okay I see, I just don't have the virtualGL package, but primus does similar [09:04] kbmonkey: yeah, kinda similar [09:04] that is amazing [09:12] ok here we go again I just switched the machine on, left it for a few minutes and it seems to be frozen, no response to mouse or keyboard [09:12] oh noes Private_User [09:12] can you control-shift-F1 to a tty? [09:13] a terminal screen [09:13] nope nothing [09:13] okay, you can try the reisub key combo to reset the pc [09:13] kbmonkey: Is that enabled on default in ubuntu? [09:14] hmm... num lock light does not even light up neither does CAPS Lock [09:14] Private_User: Try after doing r of reisub? [09:14] theblazehen, would ubuntu really disable that? [09:15] no Key combinations are working [09:15] Private_User, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reisub#Uses [09:15] a hard freeze is usaully soemthing in the kernel space, likely a driver (graphics?) [09:16] unplug the power for ten seconds [09:16] after reboot grab a copy of dmesg to see if it caught any crash messages prior to the freeze [09:18] Private_User, this should help you find errors: dmesg -T --level=err,warn | tail -n 200 [09:20] nopew REISUB does not work [09:20] tried it a few times now [09:20] kbmonkey: Arch does.. [09:20] few seconds apart many seconds apart nope nothing [09:21] gonna have to perform a hard reset [09:22] yup, got to cut the power Private_User :/ [09:22] had a similar issue before with gfx card dropping off the bus [09:23] ok switched off completely and now unplugged [09:23] I use the nouveau drivers now and no more freezes [09:23] (but that may not be your problem) [09:24] ok I am plugging back in [09:24] does this happen often Private_User ? [09:24] brb gotta hang washing... [09:27] kbmonkey: well it did happen previously but more the machine used to randomly switch off so we assumed it was over heating so I dismantled everything and cleaned it but only got it together a few days ago and only managed to get the machine running yesterday but since then its never stayed on without freezing [09:35] ah okay Private_User that is good info. maybe tonight while you sleep you can run a memory test from a live cd/usb [09:36] just to elimiate faulty RAM, but check that dmesg log too ;) [09:37] Private_User: tried different distro? Perhaps fedora or something? [09:37] Or arch [09:40] nice suggestion lol [09:40] crunchbang? ;) [09:40] ai! data dont grow on trees [09:41] he does updates on night surfer data [09:41] he is also still learning linux so explain things nicely [09:43] we just poking fun Kilos cool your sheep ;) [09:43] baaaa [09:43] I got spare data left this month trying to use it === Private_User1 is now known as Private_User [09:46] Maaz, coffee on please [09:46] kbmonkey: Excuse me? [09:46] lol [09:47] Maaz, coffee on [09:47] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [09:47] Maaz coffee please [09:47] Kilos: Righto [09:47] Kilos, you mining? [09:47] and that machine is running on only 512m ram [09:47] trying to read linux mag but my brain hurts [09:47] http://slexy.org/view/s21k9ywcTa [09:47] on and off kbmonkey im cooking and doing washing and so on [09:48] i log off when im afk to save data [09:48] thats the report I got from dmesg [09:48] eish now the machine just randomly rebooted [09:49] ok let me know if you can pick up anything that I should be doing other than correcting the date and time on the machine [09:49] hehe [09:49] ? [09:49] that may just be utc time Private_User [09:49] or not ha ha [09:50] i had that onc ewhen ram cards were a mismatch and also when psu was not happy [09:50] dmesg -T --level=crit,emerg | tail [09:50] for critical messages [09:51] Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos! [09:51] none of those messages seem suspect [09:51] Maaz, thanks [09:51] kbmonkey: No problem [09:51] Maaz ty [09:51] You are welcome Kilos [09:51] Maaz, weee [09:51] kbmonkey: Sorry... [09:52] oh im also working on a psu fan that i want to put in my case [09:52] needs the big power plug [09:52] ah [09:52] did cleaning and washing chores [09:53] had 4 coffees alread :D [09:53] a large fan like that to the outside might keep machine cooler but mainly blow most of the dust awayyyyy [09:53] ja [09:54] I found by elevating the case off the ground it reduces the dust it collects [09:54] just fyi [09:54] kbmonkey: ok tried it and nothing comes up just took me to the next line [09:54] but I like taking the case to the petrol station and using their compressed air to clean it out [09:55] so no messages then, hmm okay [09:57] you could wait until it happens again Private_User then just take the entire dmesg output to a file [09:57] dmesg > somefile.txt [09:57] the first number in the output is the number of seconds that the pc has been running for [09:57] ok but that will be after resetting the machine? [09:58] so usually I scroll from the bottom to find just before it rebooted and wade through [09:58] yep after [09:58] the log gets saved betwwen reboots [09:58] ok will have to wait I will leave it on [09:58] between [09:58] that is unfortunate [09:59] mine stands up next to the screen [10:02] http://slexy.org/view/s26bnmP0Sp [10:02] thats the second one I did after it randomly rebooted [10:04] but too me it looks similar to the first one unless I am reading it wrong [10:05] indeed Private_User. It looks like boot-time messages [10:05] not much help there I am afraid [10:06] ok then if it does not happen again maybe I just have to do as Kilos suggested, wait until I have performed all updates tonight and then check again [10:07] kbmonkey there are new signboards to add to the map [10:10] pretty much that Private_User [10:11] Kilos, one can draw a signboard in GIMP and use it for a landmark image [10:11] good idea Kilos :) [10:11] I need to code in drawing of roads... [10:12] lol i cant draw to save my life [10:12] test boards are good for me [10:12] text [10:14] ha ha, understood :D [11:45] good afternoon [11:45] magespawn: By the way, Vince-0 on freenode told me "tell magespawn how's your Asterisk treating you?" 1 day, 22 minutes and 20 seconds ago [11:45] hi magespawn [11:46] * theblazehen is installing ubuntu :( [11:46] about time [11:46] :/ [11:46] Maaz tell Vince-0 i am having problems with call quality, mostly incoming [11:46] magespawn: Sure, I'll tell Vince-0 on freenode [11:46] Just so you know, it's not *really* by choice [11:46] hey Kilos [11:46] hey magespawn [11:47] theblazehen, i thought you had it this whole time [11:47] o? [11:47] o/ [11:47] magespawn: Rolling your own asterix box? Or prebuilt distro kinda thing [11:47] nope, had arch [11:49] theblazehen, I hope you have multi partitions for dual boots then :) [11:49] I got ubuntu and crunchbang dual boot, with space for 2 more [11:49] kbmonkey: openVZ container, with NoMachine NX for remote display and VirtualGL for gaming :) [11:50] niiice [11:50] I need my dual display.. [11:50] But netbook is too slow to run a full linux on [11:51] vanilla asterisk on centos, but for the company not personal [11:52] theblazehen, i run lubuntu with addons on a 6 year laptop [11:52] magespawn: I havn't done asterix, but have tried their pre-built distros. Maybe look at turnkey linux [11:53] magespawn: My netbook only has framebuffer graphics, 2GB DDR2 RAM, and 1.6 GHz atom processor [11:53] Good luck playing kerbal space program and dwarf fortress on that [11:54] And compiling is slow [11:54] asterisk on its own is fine, just struggling with call quality and too sure if it is the asterisk or the network [11:54] ah [11:55] Have you tried doing TCP or UDP pings? [11:55] stupid thing is as the moment not doing any voip at the one location [11:56] TCP yes, and lots of network live monitoring to check all traffic. nothing really stands out to me yet [11:57] Hmm, out of ideas then [11:57] also might not be anything to do with my side, might just be bad incoming call [11:58] it is not constant across all calls, or even all types of calls [11:58] theblazehen, I have a MSI U200 netbook, atom proc and runs crunchbang great. replaced openbox with i3 though [11:59] kbmonkey: Graphics? [11:59] For me firefox is way too slow [11:59] And powerline for zsh [12:01] oh no there are no graphics that is where your remote gpu surpasses me [12:01] I dont use firefox on it either. I use surf (suckeless.org) [12:02] kbmonkey: I tried that, didn't like for some reason [12:02] webkit browser[7~minimal [12:04] writing ubuntu iso :( [12:04] such slow connection :( typing in ssh is painful [12:04] Gonna leave soon [12:04] ok [12:04] I go back to reading linux voice magazine :) [12:05] Physical magazine? [12:06] going [12:10] good morning [12:10] *afternoon, i mean [12:10] Maaz: coffee on [12:10] * Maaz washes some mugs [12:14] Coffee's ready for charl_! [12:15] no a digital mag theblazehen [12:16] hi charl_ [12:16] hi kbmonkey [12:16] strange how broadband just drops in speed [12:25] howdy charl_ [12:41] kbmonkey, adsl? [13:00] hi magespawn [13:50] later all home time for me [14:38] Ohi [14:38] Kilos: where are you? [14:39] hi superfly was mining and just left [14:39] been doing lotsa work at home today too [14:39] you wanna mine?? [14:40] Yes, but no [14:40] I'm busy making jam, and my ADSL is down. [14:40] On my phone at the moment. [14:40] what jam? [14:41] yucky without internet hey? [14:41] Indeed. [14:41] I'm making Australian brush cherry [14:42] complain quick or you only get it back monday or tuesday [14:42] I already complained last night [14:42] cherry jam? [14:42] where you get foreign cherries [14:42] No, brush cherry. It's a common tree in SA [14:43] aha [14:43] never seen one i think [14:43] Ever seen bright pink/scarlet berries? [14:43] how big are the cherries? [14:46] dug out 2 small bushes coupla weeks back with bright red berries on [14:46] methunk they were weeds and maybe poisonous [14:48] berries maybe just under 10mm [15:08] Good thing I kept this VM around... /me is back on arch :D [15:11] ubuntu masters you? [15:12] Kilos: I thought this program that needs ubuntu or redhat to run well would do what I need, but it didn't. So I'm back on arch [15:13] yaya [15:13] Now I'm looking for a tiny distro that's JUST enought to do "X -query $IP" [15:13] and connect to ethernet [15:13] tinycorelinux [15:14] Kilos: ty, will look [15:14] 66m [15:14] eish [15:14] what eish? [15:14] * theblazehen does "pacman -S archiso" [15:15] It's big [15:15] 66m big [15:15] yeah... [15:15] thats the install version the otrher is 12m [15:15] Will take seconds to PXE boot [15:15] With full drivers and X? [15:15] 12m version runs from ram [15:16] or runs in ram [15:16] kk [15:16] But I'd still need to modify it though [15:17] well you can [15:21] i thought tiny core was quite nice just different from debian [15:22] Bet you I can get it under 20 MB [15:22] different was to install and so on [15:22] the ram running version is 12m [15:43] Arch is busy building [15:54] superfly im putting sign boards up at other peesp places where i get lost, when you get online sometime can you just say what/whose places please [15:55] and ive managed to mark the trip to the desert mine so i can find my way at last [18:08] hi Kilos 0/ [18:08] * kbmonkey pings nuvolari [18:09] hi kbmonkey [18:09] Kilos, I downloaded Mint linux with my remaining data. going to check it out for the old man [18:09] for what old man [18:10] I let him try Ubuntu before but he did not like it. still stuck on windoze [18:10] oh your dad [18:10] my old man [18:10] :p [18:10] peeps like that actually get to understand kde quick [18:10] no it is the mate edition [18:11] mate is what gnome 2 was [18:11] got the launcher thing where the win start button is i think [18:11] you remember the big buttons and the plain good old look [18:11] yes [18:11] ya man you should let him try kde man [18:12] i thought of that but eish to provide support for him, I don't know enough of it myself to help out man [18:12] well you the twit [18:12] all the support one needs is here [18:13] ian went from win to kde didnt like gnome2 and doesnt like unity [18:13] ha ha yes you are right about the support being here! [18:13] he wont do irc me thinks. only does forum for fishing and email [18:14] sigh [18:14] he will learn to love this channel once he sees all the friendly peeps here [18:15] and all the old fogies? *wink wink* [18:15] hahaha [18:15] okay dd done I try install it now... [18:15] dd to do what? [18:16] dd iso to usb [18:16] hmm... command? [18:16] yes dd is a linux command [18:16] you dont use unetbootin [18:16] no. real distros use dd ;P [18:16] man fool give me the command [18:16] grrrr [18:17] ek sukkel darem [18:17] i use dd to make isos i think [18:18] been a while. unetbootin works kiff and i have some commands to make iso from cd/dvd [18:19] * Kilos throws some bananas to the monkey [18:19] * theblazehen also uses dd [18:24] thanks for the bananas Kilos lol [18:40] kbmonkey /me waits for the dd command [18:41] Kilos: iso to usb? [18:41] yessir [18:41] i use unetbootin [18:41] sudo dd if=/path/to/the/iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M [18:41] but dd will be good to learn [18:41] ty very much [18:41] Kilos: there is a reason the nickname is "disk-destroyer"... [18:42] but yeah, man dd [18:42] i have been very careful with dd's and havent done anything bad ye [18:42] yet [18:42] i hate man pages man [18:42] i dont unnerstand them [18:43] Kilos: They're great if you do [18:43] People say that the BSD manpages are better I think [18:43] i battle with them, the pro always helps me [18:43] I can also help if im here [18:44] all the stuff in brackets and other stuffs whew [18:44] options and more [18:44] [] = optional [18:44] theres lotsa stuff to make a complete command [18:45] Kilos: May be look at the bro pages? [18:45] * Kilos wonders how the flys jam is coming on [18:45] what are bro pages [18:46] Like man pages but with examples instead [18:47] oh is that in ubuntu as well? [18:47] nope [18:47] will need to install [18:47] bro not found [18:48] http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1w30j2/bro_pages_like_man_pages_but_with_examples_only/ [18:48] i go see if its in the repos [18:48] nope [18:49] needs ruby :/ [18:49] apt-get install ruby && gem install bropages [18:49] ah thanks theblazehen for helping Kilos :) [18:49] lol np [18:49] ty [18:50] Kilos, I recall a few times the ubuntu isos did not want to boot with dd, so not sure if it was my usb disks or my pc. but dd works for everything else [18:50] Which ISO's? [18:50] I just did ubuntu server 14.04 today [18:50] on usb [18:51] bro pages? lool [18:51] oh good to know theblazehen :) [18:51] Kilos: did you check the md5? My 1st download got interrupted [18:51] [18:51] Fetching: json_pure-1.8.1.gem (100%) [18:51] ERROR: While executing gem ... (Errno::EACCES) [18:51] anyway just installed qemu so Ill use that to test out mint [18:51] Permission denied - /var/lib/gems [18:52] Kilos: needs more sudo [18:52] i used sudo [18:52] use sudo in both commands before and after && [18:52] ok [18:53] two commands for the price of one [18:53] then you gotta give it like this [18:55] sudo apt-get install ruby && sudo apt-get install gem install bropages [18:55] or leave the last install out [18:55] sudo apt-get install ruby && sudo gem install bropages [18:55] ah [18:56] gem should come with ruby [18:56] so you installing the pages into gem [18:56] gem is ruby's package manager [18:56] sudo gem install bropages [18:56] basically pip for ruby [19:00] hope it dont corrupt my kde [19:00] It wont [19:02] better not. this 14.04 kde been very stable once i got it personalized [19:02] Only command line stuff [19:03] only i get errors in minetest [19:03] command line stuff can kill pcs [19:03] kbmonkey i need minetest help you know [19:04] ty for the bro stuff theblazehen [19:04] kbmonkey: /me still hasn't got virtualGL :( [19:04] np Kilos [19:04] using xdmcp now, instead of NoMachine X [19:05] oh noes theblazehen, problem setting up virtualGL? [19:06] Kilos, yes I know re minetest he he. was just busy using my data before midnight and chores :/ [19:06] also trying to catch up on the linux voice mag, I am running behind on the reading :) [19:07] kbmonkey: nah, my plan didn't work [19:07] oh added roads to the minemap app [19:07] Was planning on running NX with virtualGL rendering on my bitcoin machine [19:07] But now I'm back to xdmcp as NX didn't do dual display very well [19:08] i love how you try all these things theblazehen [19:08] no man kbmonkey i cant build to make a tower to look around second build i see black only and have to pick it away to got back [19:08] kbmonkey: me too :) It's fun [19:08] Once I have this running well I'll rebuild it all again with puppet [19:08] and LDAP authentication [19:09] Kilos, I get the same problem. it happens when you mine a brick and walk where it was. the net is lagged, and the block reappears on top of you, covering your head and everything turns black [19:09] and NFS home directories [19:09] is that from lag? [19:09] but if you wait a while and your game catches up with the server the block should get removed [19:10] then it should clear after a bit surely [19:10] yes that is from lag Kilos [19:10] lemme go try [19:10] ya but soemtimes it does not clear :/ [19:10] so your character is then stuck in a rock and a hard place, so to speak ;) [19:10] ya mine doesnt the three 4 times i tried it [19:11] ya [19:11] I come build you a tower soon. let me just finish up this code and push to github [19:11] by luck i found you can mine it away [19:11] no man i wanna do my own [19:11] i get and error in login [19:11] kbmonkey: whats your github? [19:12] error main bla bla invisible.png unable to load [19:12] theblazehen, https://github.com/wesleywerner/minemap [19:12] ty [19:12] just a small project I am playing with this week [19:13] nope stays black [19:13] * Kilos cries [19:14] its supposed to pick you up on top of the block now between them [19:15] it may stay black if there are a couple blocks surrounding you, not letting light in [19:15] hang tight Kilos Ill come find you in a few mins [19:15] kbmonkey: Got zonked posted anywhere online? [19:15] ok im a home [19:16] lol theblazehen I do but it is incomplete. let me find the link... [19:16] ty [19:16] * kbmonkey ssh'es into web host to see [19:17]