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[03:07] <jomc0> How do I enable WiFi. Seriously someone help!
[03:07] <holstein> !wifi
[03:07] <ubottu> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:07] <jomc0> Thanks
[03:07] <holstein> jomc0: you likely need proprietary drivers
[03:08] <jomc0> Ugh
[03:08] <holstein> jomc0: ugh?
[03:08] <Unit193> What chipset?
[03:08] <jomc0> Intel
[03:08] <jomc0> Of some kind
[03:08] <holstein> well, that should just be working. and might be
[03:08] <holstein> jomc0: confirm what kind *exactly*
[03:09] <jomc0> Moment
[03:11] <jomc0> Hm75 chipset
[03:11] <jomc0> Does that sound right?
[03:11] <holstein> jomc0: only you know..
[03:11] <holstein> the link i gave will tell you how to find out.. please refer to it
[03:20] <jomc0> I got it. Thanks chaps
[03:46] <xubuntu541> hello
[03:46] <xubuntu541> I am having a grub problem
[03:48] <holstein> !grub | xubuntu541
[03:48] <ubottu> xubuntu541: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[03:48] <xubuntu541> can someone help me find a solution for when I get "error: unknown filesystem. Entering rescue mode... grub rescue> set?"
[03:48] <xubuntu541> I tried a boot repair disc
[03:50] <xubuntu541> it told me something like, "you have installed on sda 7 a version of linux which isn't EFI compatible. Your computer probably cannot dual boot between this linux and other operating systems" or something
[03:50] <xubuntu541> but I had a perfectly good dual boot system set up before I installed windows 8.1
[03:51] <holstein> xubuntu541: you can typically restore grub after installing windows.. what boot repair did you do?
[03:51] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair is what i suggest
[03:51] <xubuntu541> I used a disc that I made from an ISO of boot repair for ubuntu I think
[03:51] <holstein> windows is designed to install and break grub.. it wont ask if you have another boot loader
[03:51] <holstein> xubuntu541: if you "think", try the link i gave
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[03:52] <holstein> xubuntu541: you'll use a normal ubuntu live CD
[03:53] <xubuntu541> I'm in xubuntu now because I tried this:
[03:53] <xubuntu541> set boot=(hd0,7)
[03:53] <xubuntu541> set prefix=(hd0,7)/boot/grub
[03:53] <xubuntu541> insmod normal
[03:53] <xubuntu541> normal
[03:53] <holstein> xubuntu541: try the link i gave, specifically
[03:53] <xubuntu541> and that gets me in
[03:54] <xubuntu541> isn't that supposed to just help you get in so you can use a terminal? I can access one now
[03:54] <xubuntu541> if you mean the boot repair thing the one in that link looks exactly like the one I tried to use
[03:54] <xubuntu541> which told me that I can't have this version of linux or something
[03:55] <holstein> xubuntu541: its supposed to specifically help you in your situation.. where you have installed windows which broke grub
[03:55] <xubuntu541> isn't there aa way I can fix this in the terminal real quick instead?
[03:55] <xubuntu541> yeah but I tried that and it didn't work
[03:55] <holstein> xubuntu541: the link i gave offers that method
[03:55] <holstein> xubuntu541: you'll just need to ask a question "it didnt work" is a statement
[03:56] <xubuntu541> ok
[03:56] <xubuntu541> when I tpye set
[03:56] <xubuntu541> I get "cmdpath=(hd0)"
[03:56] <xubuntu541> "prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub"
[03:56] <xubuntu541> "root=hd0,gpt6"
[03:58] <xubuntu541> I think that this is just somehow off a little bit and when I tpye set it's supposed to say "cmdpath=(hd0)" "prefix=(hd0,gpt7)/boot/grub" "root=hd0,gpt7"
[03:58] <holstein> xubuntu541: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#The_terminal_way is what i suggest, actually
[03:58] <xubuntu541> is there a tut that show you how to..
[03:58] <xubuntu541> ok
[03:58] <xubuntu541> i'll take a look
[03:58] <holstein> sudo grub-install /dev/XXX
[03:58] <xubuntu541> sda?
[03:58] <holstein> xubuntu541: you can paste all the errors or whatever
[03:58] <xubuntu541> ok
[03:58] <holstein> xubuntu541: thats specific to your machine, friend
[03:58] <xubuntu541> lemme try
[03:59] <xubuntu541> I think it's sda
[03:59] <holstein> xubuntu541: you cant "think" though..
[03:59] <holstein> xubuntu541: just read, and confirm. .. and put it where it should go
[03:59] <xubuntu541> I'm pretty sure I installed xubuntu yesterday and installed the boot for grub to sda
[03:59] <holstein> where you are asking the machine to boot
[03:59] <xubuntu541> ok
[04:03] <xubuntu541> this is the error I get when I try terminal method
[04:03] <xubuntu541> zx@Zx-Lenovo-PC:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda7 [sudo] password for zx:  Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding. grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[04:04] <holstein> xubuntu541: why are you installing to sda7?
[04:05] <holstein> xubuntu541: why not the superblock?
[04:05] <xubuntu541> straight to sda you mean?
[04:05] <holstein> xubuntu541: thats where it would have been by default, and where windows is now
[04:05] <xubuntu541> I can do that I just thought the instructions meant I should do it to the partition I have Xubuntu on
[04:06] <xubuntu541> so should I try on sda instead?
[04:06] <holstein> xubuntu541: thats what it was by default,a nd what im suggesting, and the link is, and where windows is now, overriding your boot
[04:06] <xubuntu541> lol I'm sorry I'm such a noob
[04:06] <holstein> xubuntu541: no worries..
[04:08] <xubuntu541> $ sudo grub-install /dev/sda Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible. grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[04:08] <holstein> xubuntu541: whatever you do with windows that breaks or changes your system, you'll need to address
[04:09] <holstein> xubuntu541: what would i do? read up on what you have done that could be broken by installing grub
[04:09] <holstein> !uefi
[04:09] <ubottu> UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[04:10] <holstein> xubuntu541: posts like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1790260 make me think the issue is trivial
[04:10] <holstein> xubuntu541: i would proceed cautiously after backing up my data
[04:11] <xubuntu541> its a fresh install, there's no data to back up. I could uninstall xubuntu and reinstall but I need to learn this for when that's not an option
[04:11] <xubuntu541> thanks for the link
[05:00] <xubuntu541> I still can't figure out how to make it work
[06:35] <benonsoftware> Mmm, anyone might know why the latest ISO is wanting to boot for me? :)
[06:36] <benonsoftware> s/is/isn't/
[06:43] <Noskcaj> benonsoftware, Probably the systemd break a few days ago
[06:44] <Noskcaj> Or was that only existing installs
[06:45] <benonsoftware> Interesting, I get passed (what I think is) the splash page, then got some white on black scary looking text then a blank screen
[06:48] <xubuntu346> when upgrading to xubuntu 14.04, will my user data in /home/user/* be saved or will it be overwritten?
[06:49] <baizon> xubuntu346: if you upgrade no data will be lost
[06:50] <xubuntu346> what if i do a clean install without formatting the drive?
[06:50] <baizon> xubuntu346: if /home is on a separate partition and you don't format it
[06:51] <xubuntu346> it's not.  so I should back up all of my data, thanks
[06:51] <baizon> then yes :)
[06:51] <xubuntu346> in the future, what's the best practice for seperate partitions, i.e. /home, /var, etc.?
[06:52] <baizon> well it depends, i have 3: /, /home and swap.
[06:52] <baizon> but thats always a personal matter
[06:55] <xubuntu346> would /var/log be a good idea as well?
[06:56] <xubuntu346> and i do a lot of programming/development, would i get better performance on a sep. partition just for my dev. files?  30-50,000+ at least
[07:15] <sergio1949> ciao sto cercando di scaricare xubuntu con usb . Sarò capace?
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[08:27] <Guido1> Hello, I'm considering to buy a new laptop so that I can study outside in the sun and by excursions in a ban. I want to put xubuntu on it and use it for more than one jear. Can anyone give me some advice what for propertys the laptop should have?
[08:42] <Noskcaj> Guido1, Xubuntu needs nothing specific
[08:42] <Noskcaj> Pretty much whatever laptop you like should work
[08:43] <Noskcaj> As general advice, try to make sure it has a matte screen and a good touchpad
[08:50] <Guido1> Noskcaj: it seams that there is also a difference about how long a laptop can be used as a laptop. (quick dying battery etc.) My laptop now doesn't start by a temperature between 18 and 20 degree. only by 21 or warmer
[08:51] <bekks> the lifetime of a battery depends on how you charge it.
[08:54] <Guido1> bekks: and how much energy the laptop needs, i gues. I realy want to use it longer than one or two years
[08:54] <bekks> How much energy the laptop needs determines how often you have to recharge, most batteries have a lifetime of 1000 cycles and more.
[08:55] <bekks> So again: it depends on how you recharge.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> even then it's not like *POOF* no more charges.  the battery will just hold a lower percentage of charge e.g. my 2012 battery now - 100% charged at 75% capacity.
[08:57] <bekks> I am currently typing on a 2008 laptop with 70% capacity.
[08:58] <Guido1> bekks, cfhowlett: 2006 battery, sinds 2012 or 2013: not working at all
[08:58] <bekks> So replace the batteryß
[08:58] <bekks> far more cheaper than getting a new rugged laptop.
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Guido1 yes, look into battery replacement.  personally, I prefer OEM replacement.  see amazon
[08:59] <Guido1> I also found out that you need a specific grafic card if you want to use it with an external screan or beamer
[08:59] <Guido1> cfhowlett: the battery is not the only problem and costs already about 60 or 80 € and for a bit more you could get a laptop
[09:00] <bekks> For a bit more? For just a bit more you just get a bit more crap.
[09:01] <Guido1> but is it a good laptop? that's why i ask. as a student i don't have a lot of money which i can spend, but after the trouble last week it seams nessessary
[09:03] <bekks> personally I'm going to get a Dell 7000 series soon - the cheaper ones are... not that "good" for what I need/want it.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> no budget listed so really can't define what "good" means.  fwiw: dell xps 13 developer edition seems to be a right sparkly device.  and there are other options.
[09:04] <brainwash> !ot
[09:04] <ubottu> #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:06] <gry> what?
[09:08] <Guido1> prefeur below 1000, below 500 even better, but is it good? (long livetime without crashing)
[09:11] <bekks> Guido1: I wont buy it.
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[10:46] <meek_geek> hi
[11:41] <dandedilia> Cheers
[11:42] <starrats> cheers
[13:06] <xubuntu761> hallo to everyone
[13:08] <GridCube> !hi | xubuntu761
[13:08] <ubottu> xubuntu761: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
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[13:12] <xubuntu761> I recently installed xubuntu. I have a problem with the wireless card that is not recognized and I think I've Seen the solution (http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Broadcom) -. I need to know which program is associated apt to make executable files. to indicate on the window that opens when I click on it. thanks Google Traduttore per il Business:Translator ToolkitTraduttore di siti webStrumento a supporto dell
[13:13] <xubuntu761> sorry for my bad English
[16:18] <Stek_Turku> hi all... xfce4-appfinder starts very slowly (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-appfinder/+bug/1048805). Does anyone solve the problem on Xubuntu 12-04 LTS and XFCE 4.8 ?
[16:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1048805 in xfce4-appfinder (Ubuntu) "xfce4-appfinder launches very slowly" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:29] <drc> Based on a quick reading of the bug report: no.
[16:31] <Stek_Turku> drc: hi drc, is your answer related to my question?
[16:32] <drc> Stek_Turku: yes, sorry.
[16:35] <Stek_Turku> thank you drc
[16:39] <drc> Stek_Turku: The Xubuntu team is pretty good about following up on the bug reports if there is a real solution (or even a work around), so if there's no solution in the bug report there's probably no solution (yet).
[16:47] <Stek_Turku> what a pity... i love appfinder but it is inusable for me... i hope that when i upgrade my distro it will be ok
[16:55] <drc> Stek_Turku: Read the last few posts...don't count on it. :(
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[18:27] <DoDiesis> Hello all
[18:27] <DoDiesis> I have q auestion
[18:27] <Tacobuntu> Hi, I've got a fresh Xubuntu 14.04 install and I am running into issues setting up the aesthetics. I have a dual display setup and I want the panel on the left display to only have icons. Is there any way I can do this with the XFCE panel or will I have to switch to using a lxpanel?
[18:27] <DoDiesis> during downloading of updates, the system went to crash
[18:27] <Tacobuntu> only have icons for the applications menu is what I mean
[18:28] <DoDiesis> now it does not recognise my password
[18:28] <DoDiesis> shall I reinstall everything?
[18:28] <Tacobuntu> *Window list
[18:31] <DoDiesis> Plz, can somebody help me?
[18:32] <deshipu> DoDiesis: there is a way to change your password, but if that got corrupted, there is a chance that a lot of other files are corrupted too
[18:32] <deshipu> DoDiesis: so unless you have files that you want to recover, a reinstallation would be best
[18:33] <DoDiesis> thanks deshipu. I supposed to have to reinstall it again
[18:33] <DoDiesis> the problem is that my netbook does not have a disk drive
[18:33] <DoDiesis> I willhave to lend an external one again
[18:34] <badawi> part
[18:34] <DoDiesis> thanks anyway: maybe I could go from xubuntu 12.04 to the 14.04 version
[18:35] <DoDiesis> but if I tried to enter as admin and download updates?
[18:36] <deshipu> the problem is, in order for your password to not be recognized, the system files have to be corrupted pretty bad
[18:37] <DoDiesis> deshipu: yes, that's for sure...
[18:37] <drc> It's been a while, but does 12.04 even have a root password?
[18:37] <deshipu> and there is no sure way to fix such a syste
[18:37] <deshipu> m
[18:37] <deshipu> drc: no
[18:37] <deshipu> drc: but there are ways
[18:38] <DoDiesis> well.. ok. If there is not any other way, I will reinstall everything.
[18:38] <deshipu> drc: as long as you have physical access and the disk is not encrypted
[18:38] <drc> yeah, but a reinstall, as you said, "is the only way to be sure".
[18:40] <DoDiesis> the system lets me onter only with "guest session"
[18:40] <DoDiesis> *enter
[18:41] <drc> And I'm guessing that "chroot" would scare him even worse :)
[20:28] <xubuntu412> hey
[20:28] <xubuntu412> Are anyone of you running xubuntu on an x200 tablet?
[20:31] <meek_geek> guys I have heard gnu+linux slows down after one month of use and bsd does not ?
[20:32] <meek_geek> is that a myth ?
[20:32] <brainwash> yes, it is a myth
[20:32] <xubuntu412> what is bsd?
[20:33] <brainwash> xubuntu412: why would anyone do this? xubuntu is not optimized for touch/tablet usage
[20:34] <xubuntu412> x200 tablet is less of a tablet than a penmanship digitizer
[20:34] <xubuntu412> Add xournal, anki and nixnote/evernote and you have a pretty potent study machine
[20:35] <brainwash> right, so do you have any specific question?
[20:35] <xubuntu412> Then... you can scan all your books into it too <(
[20:36] <xubuntu412> Yes, I've had screen freezes after locking the screen
[20:36] <xubuntu412> I've disabled the automatic lockscreen for now. But It'd be nice to use it
[20:37] <brainwash> that's bad, it's most likely related to the new screen locker called 'light-locker'
[20:37] <xubuntu412> That is the screen locker I disabled
[20:37] <xubuntu412> Can I uninstall it and reinstall the old one?
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[20:38] <xubuntu412> Or solve it some other way?
[20:38] <brainwash> you can keep it installed, the old one is 'xscreensaver'
[20:38] <brainwash> but you can install and use any other screen locker app
[20:38] <xubuntu412> Thanks, where can I find it?
[20:39] <brainwash> software center
[20:39] <brainwash> or via terminal "sudo apt-get install xscreensaver"
[20:40] <brainwash> I also recommend reading this article http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[20:40] <xubuntu412> Sweet, post your vertcoin or bitcoin adress and I'll send a beer to you
[20:41] <xubuntu412> Reading, thanks
[20:41] <brainwash> nah, no need to get paid for support here :)
[20:42] <xubuntu412> Hehe, okay
[20:43] <xubuntu412> Though it's cool that we can
[20:47] <meek_geek> m having issues with tor on xubuntu
[21:18] <longbonglungfish> hello everyone. i have noticed two strange bugs in regard to the new indicator plugin on the panel in xubuntu 14.04:
[21:18] <longbonglungfish> 1. in the panel preferences dialog, when i set the background style to "none (use system style)" the entire indicator plugin area and all the icons in it, refuse to match the rest of the panel and instead take on a semi-transparent grey background. this happens with all themes that i've tried. here is a screenshot that shows how out of place and incosistent the indicator area looks under these conditions; http://i5
[21:18] <longbonglungfish> .minus.com/i13axvucGfWum.png now, if i change the background style to "solid color" the bug disappears; http://i6.minus.com/ibjum6Wc3c9Anz.png but that means my panel will no longer match whatever theme i use automatically.
[21:18] <longbonglungfish> 2. some icons in the indicator plugin area have portions cut off, there is no other way to describe this. here is a screenshot; http://i5.minus.com/i51zpfDWSL0nE.png if anyone could help me remedy these issues it would be much appreciated!
[21:19] <longbonglungfish> the link illustrating the first bug might have gotten cut into two posts, here it is again in full: http://i5.minus.com/i13axvucGfWum.png
[21:29] <brainwash> longbonglungfish: does restarting the panel fix the transparency issue? xfce4-panel -r
[21:31] <longbonglungfish> brainwash, nope. doesn't change anything.
[21:32] <longbonglungfish> logging in, restarting, changing themes. problem is still there.
[21:34] <brainwash> mmh, not sure
[21:35] <brainwash> I've reported this issue during the development cycle
[21:35] <brainwash> and it should be fixed (cannot test right now)
[21:35] <longbonglungfish> wow, thanks a whole bunch!
[21:36] <brainwash> but you can still trigger this issue, mmh
[21:36] <brainwash> cut off panel icons have been reported by some users too, not sure about the current bug status
[21:37] <brainwash> or if a bug report even exists
[21:38] <brainwash> can you please report these bugs on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin ?
[21:38] <brainwash> with all the details you've posted here
[21:38] <longbonglungfish> great. thanks for all the info. aside from that issue, there's another problem i noticed in regard to the mailwatch plugin. it ceases to function after one notification during a session and i have to log out and log back in again to get it to recognize new emails.
[21:39] <brainwash> that's odd
[21:39] <longbonglungfish> aside from these the upgrade to 14.04 went splendidly. and yes, i can make a report. where should i put the one for the mailwatch plugin?
[21:40] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-mailwatch-plugin
[21:40] <brainwash> this problem hasn't been reported yet
[21:40] <longbonglungfish> okay great! will have reports posted within  a few hours.
[21:41] <mission> Would it be possible to include the 'Wacom Control Panel' GUI tablet tool in the next Xubuntu release? It doesn't work at all in 14.04 :(
[21:41] <brainwash> the GUI doesn't work currently?
[21:41] <mission> nope, at all
[21:42] <brainwash> why should we include it then by default in the next release?
[21:42] <mission> I mean, make it work, somehow :D
[21:42] <brainwash> ah, well, the xubuntu team does not maintain this particular software
[21:43] <brainwash> you'll have to file a bug report on launchpad, so it will be fixed eventually
[21:44] <mission> ok I will! thanks!
[21:44] <brainwash> thanks :)