[10:34] <ochosi> hi everyone
[10:34] <gry> hello ochosi
[10:34] <gry> how's things
[10:34] <ochosi> okayish
[10:35] <gry> what you working on now
[10:35] <ochosi> at this moment, on nothing, have a lot of RL work ahead
[10:36] <gry> is it school related? anything periodic or predictable?
[10:36] <ochosi> work related
[10:37] <gry> ah okay
[11:07] <gry> maintaining things is hard -_-
[11:07] <gry> especially when they change and people dont stay enough to troubleshoot properly
[12:23] <knome> this is interesting/useful if we decide we'd like to apply for the community funds: http://mhall119.com/2014/05/community-donations-funding-report/
[12:25] <ochosi> hihi, i can't apply cause i'm not an ubuntu member
[12:26] <knome> well apparently it's possible to lift ~$1k for travel expenses for one person for one event
[12:27] <knome> and up to, like ~$2.7k for one person for all events in a year
[12:27] <knome> though i'm pretty sure that if more applications start coming in, that'll not be possible
[12:27] <ochosi> so you're saying i should apply for ubuntu membership? :p
[12:28] <knome> i'm saying we could be able to pull out one event where most of the contributors could be 
[12:28] <ochosi> yup, that would be very nice indeed
[12:28] <knome> say, apply for sponsorship to fosdem for sean and lyz
[12:28] <knome> and then the europeans take one for the team :P
[12:28] <ochosi> :)
[12:29] <ochosi> bbiab
[12:29] <knome> (or share the rest of the expenses with the team...)
[17:20] <pleia2> someone should nudge me when the fosdem CFP comes up, might be able to go for work
[17:21] <knome> :)
[17:22] <ochosi> that'd be nice
[17:32] <olbi> hi guys, I'm testing proposed files for langpack and there aren't any updated files form Xfce language git :/
[17:34] <Unit193> ochosi: Were you actually interested, or just perhaps interested in that one package as an installable option for utopic?
[17:34] <Unit193> knome: Why you no fix translations yet?
[17:35] <ochosi> Unit193: not sure what you're referring to, i don't have any backlog
[17:35] <knome> Unit193, i no resposible!
[17:39] <Unit193> knome: But you're far better.
[17:39] <Unit193> ochosi: xfda<tab>
[17:40] <ochosi> Unit193: ah i see, well i wanted it in the utopic repos, or at least in our extras PPA (i'd actually also be happy with the latter for now)
[17:41] <ochosi> i still have to ask micahg to set up that PPA for us though
[17:42] <Unit193> ochosi: Asked our friendly neighboorhood uploader, he was fine with the idea of uploading.
[17:43] <ochosi> cool
[17:43] <ochosi> there are also a few other things we might wanna consider
[17:43] <ochosi> skippy-xd is one of them
[17:45] <Unit193> Ubuntu doesn't like to carry packages Debian doesn't have.
[17:46] <ochosi> i thought xdash also wasn't in debian
[17:46] <ochosi> and corsac had no interest in adding it
[17:46] <Unit193> Right, which thusly makes it more or less fine for Ubuntu to do so.
[17:46] <ochosi> so what is different for skippy-xd?
[17:46] <Unit193> Ah, do you want to update the description and short description?  That was the worst part of packaging.
[17:48] <Unit193> And no idea there, never used it.
[17:48] <ochosi> there's no description for it?
[17:49] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/au60bXlCVnxS3GXUkV8j/ Kind of copy+paste. :P
[17:52] <Unit193> ochosi: Have you asked Corsac if he's interested?
[17:53] <Unit193> (ITP - #698065) http://bugs.debian.org/698065 skippy-xd
[17:56] <ochosi> no, haven't
[17:56] <ochosi> i agree, the xfdash description is in bad english :)
[17:58] <ochosi> this is the current location of skippy xd btw: https://github.com/richardgv/skippy-xd
[17:58] <ochosi> same maintainer/developer as compton i think
[17:59] <Unit193> Yep, know the name.
[17:59] <ochosi> i think that one we could get in touch with
[18:06] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/ANWZxhK5zOx9xt9CoEJZ/ still bad, but slightly less so.
[18:06] <Unit193> Logan_: Can you work with git+pristine-tar?  Or do you need a dsc?
[18:09] <brainwash> ochosi: can you change the status/importance of lp bug reports?
[18:09] <ochosi> brainwash: nope, not part of the bugsquad
[18:09] <ochosi> Unit193: that pastebin gets me a 500 internal server error
[18:09] <brainwash> but you are the xpl :/
[18:09] <Unit193> ochosi: F5, openstack are getting issues.
[18:12] <ochosi> Unit193: still no worky
[18:13] <ochosi> brainwash: that doesn't mean i have to do everything. become a member of the bugsquad and get to work! :)
[18:13]  * knome approves
[18:13] <Unit193> http://paste.progval.net/show/eKrSSH9wV4lYwCBiOmbU/ Hrm, annoying. :/
[18:14] <ochosi> Unit193: yup, that reads much better. thanks!
[18:14] <Unit193> Also of course set Xubuntu Developers as the maintainer, not just myself. :P
[18:15] <brainwash> I don't feel like I need to be in the bugsquad just to mark a report as wishlist once in a while
[18:28] <brainwash> oh, and you need to be member of bugcontrol, bugsquad is not enough
[18:29] <knome> brainwash, i think you're trying to sneak under the radar
[18:37] <brainwash> am I? :)
[18:38] <knome> yeah.
[18:38] <knome> you're involved enough to actually "take one for the team" and actually get the bugsquad membership
[18:39] <Unit193> He's at least interested in cleaning up bugs enough.
[18:39] <knome> yeah, why make others do the actual status/importance changes?
[18:39] <knome> (that way others need to work AND you don't get the attribution)
[18:39] <Unit193> knome: Have any idea what broke the translations?
[18:40] <ochosi> just seems duplication of efforts
[18:40] <brainwash> hmpf
[18:40] <knome> nope :)
[18:40] <knome> Unit193, ^
[18:40] <Unit193> Welp.
[18:40] <ochosi> dinner time
[18:41] <knome> Unit193, well i also didn't look very deeply into it
[18:42] <ochosi> Noskcaj: xfpm 1.3.0 released
[18:45] <Unit193> Wow.
[19:21] <olbi> some1 know, when xfce4-power-manager 1.3 will be available here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager
[20:42] <olbi> could some1 send me screenshots of the xfce4-power-manager 1.3, from all tabs?
[20:46] <knome> olbi, please do that yourself...
[21:29] <ochosi> olbi: what for?
[21:34] <olbi> for translations :)
[21:34] <olbi> i'm compiling it now :)
[21:34] <ochosi> olbi: http://imgur.com/a/5uK6f#0
[21:35] <olbi> ochosi: thank you very much
[21:35] <ochosi> np, i'm in a good mood because of the release, that's all ;)
[21:36] <brainwash> already miss the fancy sidebar
[21:36] <ochosi> you can always keep using 1.2.0
[21:37] <brainwash> mmh, right
[21:37] <brainwash> especially for the tray icon
[21:37] <ochosi> sure, if you prefer it
[21:38] <Unit193> brainwash: Something bad about the new one?
[21:39] <brainwash> it requires xfce4-panel I think
[21:39] <brainwash> panel plugin
[21:40] <Unit193> Well, if it's still just a small space to take up, and has the same mouseover information...
[21:40] <olbi> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-power-manager, should this site be upgrade for newest version? :-)
[21:41] <ochosi> olbi: no, it will be removed as soon as i have time or we approach the stable release
[21:41] <ochosi> it'll all be on docs.xfce
[21:42] <olbi> oh, ok :)
[21:42] <olbi> forgot it :]
[21:42] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, ping
[21:42] <Noskcaj> Your latest power manager upload is broken
[21:43] <Noskcaj> You didn't add the patch to d/patches/series
[21:43] <ochosi> oh, bad
[21:43] <ochosi> Noskcaj: i guess we need to fix that first in utopic then, then do the SRU
[21:43] <ochosi> and after that upload 1.3
[21:43] <Noskcaj> can't upload 1.3 yet
[21:45] <Noskcaj> doesn't it need upower 0.99
[21:45] <ochosi> it's optional
[21:46] <ochosi> i'm using it just fine in trusty btw
[21:46] <Noskcaj> oh
[21:46] <Noskcaj> i'll upload sometime today then
[21:46] <Unit193> But if you upload now, it'll have to be rebuilt for .99.
[21:47] <ochosi> yeah, better to get the fixed version of xfpm 1.2 first
[21:47] <ochosi> also for the SRU
[21:47] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:47] <ochosi> would be nice if you could look into that though
[21:47] <ochosi> as it's our worst 14.04 bug
[21:48] <Noskcaj> will do. I've got to finish the upower transition first though, which is a real pain
[21:48] <ochosi> hmm, yeah, it breaks lots of things
[21:48] <ochosi> e.g. xfce4-session
[21:48] <ochosi> in case you were wondering
[21:48] <andrzejr> hmm.. xfce4-power-manager's battery/brightness plugins do not support multiple row panel layouts.
[21:48] <Noskcaj> i knew that one, but at least it's an active upstream
[21:49] <ochosi> andrzejr: yeah, the panel-plugin isn't finished yet, there are still a few rough edges
[21:49] <Noskcaj> unlike razorqt and wmbattery
[21:49] <ochosi> andrzejr: also, we didn't have much experience with panel plugins
[21:49] <ochosi> andrzejr: patches welcome! :p
[21:50] <andrzejr> ochosi, brightness plugin displays a slider right-to-left (+ on the left, - on the right)
[21:50] <Unit193> Noskcaj: Razor basically moved to LXQt, so you're likely looking at the wrong source.
[21:51] <Noskcaj> Unit193, I've not looked in lxqt for a patch yet, but it's annoying that it's there
[21:51] <ochosi> andrzejr: yeah, that plugin will be redone to use a menu, it currently does a popup that only works in a horizontal panel. that was like that before, so "not our fault"(tm)
[21:52] <andrzejr> ochosi, are you ok with dependency on libxfce4panel >= 4.10 or do you want ifdefs for older versions?
[21:53] <ochosi> andrzejr: i think we're ok with that. older than 4.10 is just... oooooold :)
[21:56] <andrzejr> ochosi, configure.ac.in is missing libxfce4panel dep anyway
[21:56] <andrzejr> ochosi, sorry, wrong.
[21:57] <andrzejr> it already depends on 4.10
[21:57] <ochosi> andrzejr: well generally speaking, it's the first dev-release after 2 years, there is still a lot broken so be gentle with us ;)
[22:01] <ochosi> hey sergio-br2 
[22:01] <ochosi> thanks for merging the branch
[22:01] <sergio-br2> :)
[22:01] <ochosi> there's still something odd in the 32px version of calendar: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-06-02-000127.php
[22:01] <sergio-br2> well, after that i realized that is missing more webicons yet...
[22:02] <ochosi> yeah, but no worries
[22:02] <ochosi> we can still do a release imo
[22:02] <sergio-br2> let me see
[22:03] <sergio-br2> what exactly wrong with it?
[22:03] <sergio-br2> in icon preview of inkscape it's seem ok
[22:04] <ochosi> well if you look at the screenshot, 1) the number is not centered and 2) the shadow of the "1" is off to the right
[22:05] <sergio-br2> try export to png, it's right i think
[22:07] <ochosi> will do tomorrow, gotta go now
[22:08] <sergio-br2> take a look http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/google-calendar.php
[22:08] <ochosi> not sure what's wrong there, i'm testing the icons from the daily PPA
[22:08] <ochosi> yeah, that looks like it shou
[22:08] <ochosi> ld
[22:08] <ochosi> odd
[22:12] <olbi> andrzejr: when I was compiling, I needed xfce4-panel-dev, so maybe You should fix this in README
[22:16] <sergio-br2> yeah ochosi, i can confirm calendar problem here
[22:17] <sergio-br2> maybe imagemagick implementation is different from inkscape?
[22:17] <sergio-br2> (it uses imagemagick right?)
[22:39] <andrzejr> ochosi, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10928
[22:40] <andrzejr> yay, notification works
[22:40] <andrzejr> :-) (wrong window)