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TheFakeazneD525SamwiseGamgee: ah, then idk...00:00
TheFakeazneD525Maybe format as NTFS? idk if that's compatible with the ext4 trashcan thing00:00
SamwiseGamgeeI can just cut the files out00:00
TheFakeazneD525because there isn't a windows driver for ext by default00:00
SamwiseGamgeeNow I have a problem with my printer00:01
SamwiseGamgeeI have had this problem before and I can´t remember how I solved it00:01
SamwiseGamgeethe printer is not printing anything, even though the print job is processing00:01
TheFakeazneD525Printers aren't my feild...00:02
TheFakeazneD525field00:02
TheFakeazneD525try askubuntu.com00:02
SamwiseGamgeeThe document print status says the user and file name is unknown00:03
SamwiseGamgeeand the time is unknown00:03
SamwiseGamgeethe job priority is set to 5000:09
SamwiseGamgeeWhere is the CUPS channel?00:25
SamwiseGamgeeI have a problem with my printer.  The printer is not printing anything, even though the print job is processing.  This is the 27th job I tried to print.  The printer job priority was set to 50, so I changed it to one, but that did not fix the problem. The document print status says the User, File Name, and Time submitted are all unknown.  The status is held.  The only thing Kubuntu recognizes is the Printer model and the siz00:26
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soup-n-sandwicht03:16
soup-n-sandwichGuys why doesn't Muon Discovery  software center find all the packages that are available?  Example: searching for "kubuntu-restricted-addons" show no results what so every.  Why is this?03:22
soup-n-sandwichmsg NickServ soup-n-sandwich <LimIted12!>03:30
tsimpsonsoup-n-sandwich: the Discover app is for installing "applications", like the ubuntu software centre. you can install the "muon" package to get the package manager version (also change your NickServ password;)03:31
soup-n-sandwichtsimpson: ahhh. Ok thanks03:33
SamwiseGamgeeIḿ having trouble numbering my pages using LibreOffice Writer03:39
SamwiseGamgeeI used Insert > Fields > page number  But it´s putting the number in the wrong place on the page regardless of where the cursor is03:41
SamwiseGamgeeLibreOfficeWriter is also getting the page numbers wrong and putting them on the wrong pages03:41
SamwiseGamgeeI can´t get the cursor to go to the top corner of the page, either03:42
SamwiseGamgeeis there a better way to number my pages before I print them?03:42
qdatawhat I do is turn on footer, then place cursor there and insert Fields -> Page Number, then highlight it and use the button on the top to put it on right03:49
qdatabetter to do early on, like when initially setting up page formatting because afterwards everything can/may reflow03:49
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VoyageI have ubuntu server, I want to install kubuntu desktop on it. How can I do that?05:31
tsimpsonjust install the kubuntu-desktop package05:31
valorie`sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop`05:31
valorieor right, use Muon, apper, synaptic05:32
valoriewhatever you like05:32
tsimpson^apt-get05:32
Voyagevalorie,  actually, kubuntu desktop is needed to run muon , apper, synamptic and i am trying to install kubuntu desktop05:43
valorieI prefer the cli often anyway, since it is fast and direct05:44
tsimpsonyou don't need kubuntu-desktop to run muon etc, just a graphical server and the libraries the program needs05:44
valoriesynaptic certainly does not depend on Kubuntu-desktop05:44
valorieit's GNOME software05:45
valoriethat's the beauty of the ubuntu family05:45
valoriewe all can run one another's software05:45
TheFakeazneD525hi valorie05:48
TheFakeazneD525also, Voyage, I recommend Muon over Synaptic05:49
TheFakeazneD525its much, much better05:49
valorieme too05:49
TheFakeazneD525plus, it doesn't lock up apt or dpkg when running05:49
valoriesome still prefer synaptic, which is fine -- I used to use it05:49
valorienow I much prefer muon05:49
VoyageTheFakeazneD525,  ok05:50
lordievaderVoyage is running a Ubuntu server I guess he is trying to say that he doesn't have X and therefore cannot run a gui ;)05:54
valoriesure, which is why I suggest the cli command s/he needs05:56
valorieI would miss my pretty kubuntu gui!05:57
valoriebut I do like cli commands for lots of stuff05:57
qdataserver has a text based package manager called Aptitude I seem to recall05:58
qdatasudo aptitude to start, only played with server very briefly quite some time ago so maybe that's cjanged since then05:59
TheFakeazneD525qdata: apt-get too06:01
valorienow you can use just `apt`06:01
valorieinstead of `apt-get`06:01
valorieat least with `install`06:01
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BluesKaj'Morning folks09:47
m4vupdated to 14.04 today, the network widget thinks that my desktop is a mobile phoe (has the typical wireless, mobile broadband and airplane mode stuff). Can I remove all that stuff?10:10
m4vs/phoe/phone/10:10
BluesKajm4v, that's part of networkmanager's options for airplane mode , mobile broadband etc for laptops10:29
BluesKajm4v, if you're using ethernet then just ignore them10:31
CodePulsarHow can I close KDE IM Messenger?13:47
CodePulsarCan't find any quit / exit /close button/menu item / option13:48
CodePulsarreally annoying13:48
FlashDelhi folks! I got a problem, i installed a fresh kubuntu 14.04 on a notebook, with a crypted lvm system. If i boot i get the error "/scripts/local-top/cryptroot line 1 can't open /dev/mapper/myvg-root no such file or directory" and the system won`t boot. I tried to boot with  a rootdelay=10, but that didn`t help either. Can somebody help me please?13:53
CodePulsarnevermind13:56
CodePulsarFlashDel: You choose to encrypt the LVM volume at installation time ?13:57
FlashDelCodePulsar: yep, everything installed from scratch13:58
CodePulsarI had a similar problem but on a non LVM ecnypted volume , where I didn't see the swap partition to due faulty /etc/fstab13:59
CodePulsarFlashDel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/127326113:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1273261 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "Cryptsetup error during boot: /scripts/local-top/cryptroot: line 1: can't open /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root: no such file" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:59
CodePulsarFlashDel: not sure you can boot in run level 1 if cryptsetup fails14:00
FlashDelCodePulsar: i read about that bug as well, but there it is said that the system boots up, my system just stops there14:01
FlashDeland i am not dropped into a shell, it just stops :-(14:02
CodePulsarFlashDel: try to change the grub kernel line and add 1 or 3 to it14:03
CodePulsarand then boot14:03
FlashDelok i will try that14:03
FlashDelCodePulsar: it won`t boot into runlevel 1 or 3 :-(14:12
doctorpepperhi guys !!14:13
CodePulsarFlashDel: Try to see if other people are having the same problem on Google or try to ask in #ubuntu also, I would help but I have a deadline in 2 hours14:13
doctorpeppercan anyone please help me , i have an issue kde notification  for a month or so  i no longer get updates notification on kde14:20
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m477hello I am going to install windows and kubuntu on the one disk, is it proper way to crypt both partitions by truecrypt?16:18
KINGSABRIHola Guys16:20
KINGSABRII've dual monitors and Need to make the second monitor possition is above,16:20
KINGSABRIwhen I do it from System Settings Display configurations, It make it one long screen16:21
KINGSABRII need it like it was on right/left possition , not long it's another screen with deferent background/settings16:22
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Walex2KINGSABRI: that is possible in various ways, but no clear how you really want it.16:42
Walex2doctorpepper: you can check the notifier configs, or perhaps the notifier daemon does not get started.16:42
Walex2doctorpepper: check the services panel16:42
doctorpepperWalex2: thanks  now it works16:58
KINGSABRIWalex2: When I put 2nd monitor possition on the right of the main one, it works normally , but if I put it above it getting long screen includes both monitors18:16
KINGSABRIWalex2: I need 'above' possition act normally which is sparate screen18:17
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m477I am moving from 12.04 to 14.04 which files should I backup to save "system sesion"? just whole /home is enougtt?18:37
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TheFakeazneD525m477: Hmm, if you wait a bit, 12.04 LTS will auto-upgrade to 14.04 LTS18:54
m477TheFakeazneD525: I dont want to w8, I have to format whole disc to add partition and install win18:55
TheFakeazneD525well, m477 I guess saving just the .kde folder in your home dir should work19:00
TheFakeazneD525but you should probably save the whole home dir19:00
m477TheFakeazneD525: why just .kde?19:00
TheFakeazneD525as well as a list of pacakges, repositories, and other things you've changed19:00
TheFakeazneD525m477: that would be the bare minimum to save most settings, as Kubuntu uses mostly KDE components19:01
m477oh19:01
TheFakeazneD525but, for the smoothest transition, do the other things too19:01
bprompt*cough*  /etc/apt /etc/defaults   /var/apt/cache/archives *cough*19:01
bprompt*cough* /var/cache/apt/archives *cough*19:02
TheFakeazneD525ty19:03
BluesKajbprompt, just come out with it, no need to "cough"19:03
* bprompt zips ~ whole folder often 19:03
bprompthehe19:03
m477TheFakeazneD525: but repos. will be changed on new distro ( I suppose), but any files outside /home file will be useful to copy?19:03
TheFakeazneD525the package list19:04
TheFakeazneD525go to muon, not muon discover, but muon package manager19:04
TheFakeazneD525and click on file, then save installed packages list19:04
m477TheFakeazneD525: I saved  dpkg --get-selections to have packages list19:04
TheFakeazneD525oh ok19:05
TheFakeazneD525hmmm, I guess what bprompt mentioned as well then19:05
bpromptI usually keep the apt/archives empty, but whenever installing anything, I grab the .deb files, then "clean" it19:06
m477TheFakeazneD525: can you explain to me what does mean these paths19:06
TheFakeazneD525those paths contain certian configuration files and the like19:07
bpromptm477:   usually the one folder you cannot do without though is ~, that has all kde configuration changes and all apps changes, including bookmarks and browser addons19:08
bprompt2 folders you can do without are ~/.cache and ~/.thumbnails though19:09
bpromptand those 2 folders can be sizable19:09
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m477so should I save also files from that paths or so?19:14
m477sorry guys I am getting a little bit  confused19:16
m477I am not sure what should I do with these paths  /etc/apt /etc/default   /var/apt/cache/archives,  /var/cache/apt/archives19:19
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m477also I dont have   /var/apt/19:20
m477bprompt: are you sure that these .debs will be useful for me when I go from 12.04 to 14.04 (/var/cache/apt/archives)19:25
bpromptm477:     how much is there btw?     800mbs?   have you ever done some archive cleanup for stuff you've installed?19:26
bpromptm477:    they're useful IF the 14.04 doesn't go as smooth as you'd expect, then you can reinstall stuff and you don't have to redownload them19:27
m477bprompt: no19:28
m477/var/cache/apt/archives has 1.4 GB19:28
bpromptm477:   then likely 1.4gb is stuff you've installed and are still installed, and also stuff you installed and removed, since removing a package doesn't get rid of the .deb package in the apt/archives19:29
bpromptwhenever I install stuff and keep it, I grab those .deb files and archive them in my own folder, stuff I removed, I simply get rid of the .debs19:30
m477ok19:31
m477but now do I need something to do with these paths19:32
m477copy any files or something19:32
m477I see /etc/apt has some sources lists19:36
m477but for example /etc/default19:36
bpromptwell19:38
m477ok I just copied these /etc/default and apt19:38
bpromptI back those up because I add PPAs, and those get added to the /etc/apt/ folder as a sources.d entry or inside sources.list file    so I don't have to refetch the PPA19:38
m477I got already list of packages installed so I suppose I dont need this from /var/...19:39
bpromptand I also backup /etc/defaults because I usually may make manual changes to "grub" or some other app19:39
m477I dont ;p19:40
bpromptm477:    yeap, that will do, I'm thinking the reinstalling wouldn't download .1.4gbs of .debs... so say likely about 700 or 800mbs and those can be refetch quickly enough depending on connection19:40
m477ok19:41
bpromptas I said, for me is simple, since I can reinstall kubuntu and I just install stuff from my .debs using a glob, ->   dpkg -i *deb;   or such19:41
keithzg_Another day, another kernel oops. Le Sigh.19:45
m477bprompt: ok, thank you if I won't be a problem for you, could you give me also a hint how to partition a disc to install windows and linux on one hdd?19:45
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m477for example I am not sure if I should make /boot partition (ext2)19:46
BluesKajno need for a /boot19:47
m477or it is obselete aproach19:47
m477and windows should be on the beginning of disc?19:48
bpromptm477:     they easier way is, install windows first, then install linux :), grub will add itself to the bootarea adding windows, for partitioning..... well, I have windows using up 30gbs, you can do more, one primary partition, then 2 more partitions, one for linux and one for the swap file19:48
* keithzg stares at https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zdljw0xAxQw/U4zTgGmZyCI/AAAAAAAAFpw/mVd4r9mIoNU/w1375-h774-no/IMG_20140602_134141743.jpg and appreciates that, if Kubuntu is going to constantly lock up, at least the exact error is interestingly varied.19:49
bpromptm477:     windows can use any partition on the disc, the 1st partition limitation that was back in windows98, xp and up do ok on any partitition, though I use the 1st partition for the win64 anyhow19:50
m477one primary for windows and the 2 more for what? for kubuntu I make root ~20GB, swap 8 GB (the same as ram, but I am not sure if it is nessessery)19:50
zorvalenthi everyone, can someone tell me why isn't snyaptic using the same theme that the rest of the system uses?19:51
zorvalentI know that it has something to do with gtk and root user19:51
zorvalentor is it gtk3?19:52
zorvalentI tried linking themes folder, creating a gtkrc-2.0 file in root folder19:52
BluesKajm477, you might want to consider separate partitions for kubuntu  / and /home, then you can just install a new kubuntu to / the next release19:52
m477bprompt:  can you tell me what for  2 more partitions?19:52
m477BluesKaj: yes I always split / and /home19:53
BluesKajm477, ok19:53
m477but  I dont know which set primary or extended19:54
bpromptm477:    ohhh yes... you want to split  that....so 3 more partitionns then :)    / /home and the swap area19:54
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bpromptm477:   you can make all 3 primary19:54
m477what's the difference then19:56
m477As well the order of them doesnt make any difference?19:58
rberg_you can have only 4 primary partitions.. if you need more you need to make extended partitions19:58
rberg_err 4 per disk19:58
m477I am asking cuz I heard it does19:58
bpromptm477:     will you be using mbr and bios?    as opposed to efi and gpt setup?20:00
bpromptm477:    the ol` bios/mbr combo, does have a limitation of 4 primary partitions,  yes20:01
linuxguy78957keithzg: Well, looking at your picture, you have an MSI mainboard.  That's about all I can gather.20:02
linuxguy78957My Linux Mint 16 KDE system fails to boot every other time I push the power button, due to a propreitary Nvidia graphics driver.20:02
linuxguy78957Got any special drivers installed?20:02
linuxguy78957(keithzg)20:02
m477bprompt: sorry I dont know what is mbr and gpt setup, I will install this from USB driver20:02
m477otherwise from CD20:03
bpromptm477:     then I gather is safe to say you're using the older bios/mbr   so yes, 4 primary partitions per fixed disk, then again, you can always make an extended partition and make many logicals in it20:04
keithzglinuxguy78957: No special drivers other than VirtualBox; I haven't tried leaving it on with the virtualbox service stopped, but it's definitely crashed without a VM running. Have updated the crappy MSI motherboard's firmware to the latest revision, have done likewise for the SSD it's running from, and have acpi=off in my boot line. Have run memtest, no errors. Running out of ideas :(20:05
m477bprompt:  honestly I dont know if I have bios or efi, so long I havent used it20:07
bpromptm477:    rule of thumb, if you dunno, then is BIOS :)20:08
m477if it change anything I can reboot20:08
linuxguy78957m477:     If you have a mac, or a computer with a Windows 8 sticker on it, it's probably EFI.20:08
bpromptkinda like, if you had efi, you'd know it20:08
m477linuxguy78957: no20:08
m477I have sticker UBUNTU :P20:09
m477and it is not mac20:09
m477probably I have bios but also I have some diagnostic hardware app which confused me20:12
m477nvm then20:12
BluesKajm477, how old is the machine, if less the20:19
BluesKajthan 4 yrs , most likely UEFI20:20
m477BluesKaj: 2 years I think20:20
bprompthmm20:20
m477but what it changes?20:20
bpromptm477:     and you plan to install win vista or up?20:20
m477win720:20
m477and kubuntu20:21
bpromptm477:    then you can install both, win7 and kubuntu in EFI mode.... and format the hard disk as a GPT type, and that doesn't limit you to only 4 primary partitions, I don't recall the actual number, but pretty much you can have as many partitions as you want in EFI mode20:22
bpromptas many primary partitions that is20:22
BluesKajI just used legacy mode and installed W7, then kubuntu, of course i wiped the drive clean before doing any partitioning20:23
BluesKajUEFI is a pita IMO, but that's me.  m477 you may want to go the EFI route20:24
m477I dont know what is GPT, I always install OS in the same way20:24
m477I suppose I dont have EFI20:25
miracHi guys!20:27
* keithzg waits on pins and needles for his system to kernel panic/oops/gpf again :*(20:27
miracI am using Kubuntu 14.04 LTS yet. It's great distro for me. Also, I'm KDE fan :)20:28
m477I can do logical partitions then I can have more than just 4 so where is the big deal?20:29
miracI guess no one cares.20:30
keithzgmirac: We're just all in silent agreement ;)20:30
* keithzg loves KDE, it's the Linux kernel that appears to be trying to drive him to insanity at the moment20:30
BluesKajm477, agreed, but I suppose the GPT setup has some other advantages20:34
BluesKajwhich I'm not aware of :)20:34
keithzgGPT sure seems to boot hella fast. And it is far more resistant to breaking boot order if I swap which SATA port the device is plugged into or such. In fact, it shows up as a discrete boot option even if I just plug into an entirely different (but still UEFI) machine.20:37
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rberg_GTP allows for disks greater then 2TB.. thats an advantage20:38
BluesKajmaybe for some, but in my case there's no need for humungous drives. A 1TB outboard suffices for our media20:39
keithzgAhahahahahaha yeah my days of 1TB fitting everything died almost a decade ago...20:40
keithzgEven just my CDs all ripped to FLAC . . .20:40
BluesKajI'm a home user so having to email 60K emails in a db isn't a requirement20:41
BluesKajkeep20:41
m477BluesKaj: can you explain what is GPT?20:42
BluesKajI stilll use my cdp and TT in our audio setup20:42
keithzgBut seriously now, anyone have any ideas about resolving my daily kernel panics? It's really getting me down at work.20:42
BluesKajm477, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table20:44
rberg_keithzg: do you have a paste of dmesg?20:44
BluesKajwell, enough for one day,,other stuff to do20:48
keithzgrberg_: Annoyingly, it never seems to write anything to /var/log/dmesg, so past dmesg's don't contain the crashes. I have been morbidly keeping a photo album, however: https://plus.google.com/photos/113666599828229080528/albums/6020435407007692433?authkey=CN2Z5LXXhM2RMw20:48
keithzgThat it fails to write anything to dmesg makes me wonder if the issue is somehow connected to seeing/accessing storage.21:01
rberg_keithzg: it couldn't hurt to turn debugging up. and that may give more info.. "echo 9 | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger"21:09
keithzgrberg_: Hmm. Thanks, done; hopefully it yields something informative next crash.21:14
rberg_also read the output of dmesg carefully.. there can be clues hidden in there even before a crash21:15
keithzgFair enough, and yeah, I have been looking, although the only thing that stood out to me has been a large list of "systemd-udevd[517]: Error calling EVIOCSKEYCODE: Invalid argument"21:18
keithzgHmm. In my current dmesg ( http://paste.kde.org/pyliuqmmk ) I do see a bunch of "PM: Registered nosave memory: [mem 0x0009f000-0x0009ffff]". Has resume/suspend functionality infiltrated despite my desire to never use such features?21:20
keithzgOr maybe that's just the onoard graphics. Yeah, that's probably all it is.21:20
keithzgHmmm. What built-in power management might lurk despite not running a desktop environment? I've gotten this crash with even LightDM turned off, so I wonder if there's some silly auto-suspend or such that I'm running into now, that got enabled by an update or dependency along the way.21:25
rberg_this stands out to me "ACPI Exception: AE_BAD_PARAMETER, Thread 57245696 could not acquire Mutex"21:27
keithzgHrmmm. But ACPI is off, theoretically.21:28
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doctorpepperhi guys !!!22:10
bpromptallo22:12
doctorpepperRiddell:  are you here ?22:12
Riddelldoctorpepper: hi22:21
doctorpepperhi Riddell, how are you ?22:22
RiddellI'm mostly awesome thanks22:23
doctorpepperis wanted to kown  if  it was possible to get  the plasma-nm applet on kde 4.13 (kubuntu 12.04.)  the qml version .22:24
Riddelldoctorpepper: we only package the kdelibs version for now, kf5 version will be coming soon22:25
doctorpepperwell actually i ve seen  the qml version of the kde networking applet on other distro  that dont provide kf522:26
doctorpepperi am actually talking about the same applet that  kubuntu 14.04 have22:31
doctorpepperRiddell:  what can i do ?22:37
MrDiemmeHi22:37
MrDiemmeGood Evening... I have a problem when i try to install Kubuntu on my PC22:38
doctorpepperRiddell:  it actually avalaible on 13.10 also22:38
MrDiemmeI want to install the last version, but an error has occourred22:38
doctorpepperand as far as i know kf5 is not available on 13.1022:39
doctorpepperMrDiemme: what is the error?22:39
MrDiemmeAftyer the download, the message "Could not retrieve the required installation files" appear on the screen22:40
MrDiemmeThis is the log file22:42
MrDiemme06-02 22:27 INFO   root: === wubi 14.04 rev286 ===22:42
MrDiemmeops, sorry22:43
MrDiemmecopy and paste is impossibile22:43
MrDiemmeany idea?22:43
doctorpepperno, it never happened to me22:45
MrDiemmeI try a reinstallation, but the message is the same...22:46
MrDiemmei have tryed in another partition but the message is the same again...i suspect the register22:46
doctorpepperare you using wubi22:47
MrDiemmei have used ccleaner for the registry clean without effect22:47
doctorpepperriddell: .....22:48
MrDiemmeKubuntu 13.10 has worked fine, and i have tryed to reinstall it but the message "Could not retrieve... appear again!!22:48
doctorpepperi advise you  to do an installation from the kubuntu livecd  and do not use wubi22:49
doctorpepperwhich version on windows do you have22:50
MrDiemmeYep, i suppose this is the solution, but is strange how i can't install the old version...22:50
MrDiemmeI have 40Gb free in an unused partition...i try to install Kubuntu in this area... I afrai only th bootloader...22:51
MrDiemmehow i can dismount it if i want to remove Kubuntu?22:51
MrDiemmeI have 3 partition on my HD with 3 copies of Windows 7 64bit. In the 4° partition i can install Kubuntu, but i afraid only the bootloader,22:53
doctorpepperwell in situation i dont know if you can install as far as  iam aware  you need at least two partition for the installation22:55
doctorpepperone for the system and one for the users data22:55
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MrDiemmeYes i know the problem...But i have a simply idea. To install another HD in my PC. On this HD i install Kubuntu. I can switch on and off that HD with BIOS and in that way i can resolve all the problems...I think this is only solution22:59
Guest79890Frage: Ein "sudo nmap -sS localhost -p 445 --script smb-check-vulns.nse --script-args=unsafe=1" ergibt "regsvc DoS: VULNERABLE", was zu bedeuten scheint, dass der Samba nicht sicher ist. Meinungen dazu?23:01
MrDiemmeOK, thank you for your support Doctorpepper and sorry for my English. have a nice day from Italy23:03
doctorpepperyour welcome23:04
m477how can I check if everything is ok,  when  at the ending of installation the  system was preparing  to reboot,  I plugged out usb stick, and I saw some errors or strange outputs on first shell level?23:15

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