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kevjonesinHello, does anyone know how to remove ibus packages from lubuntu 14.04 without breaking lubuntu-desktop?05:34
ianorlinlaptoplubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage05:36
ianorlinlaptopyou will need it back to upgrade though05:36
kevjonesinmmm, won't removing the meta-package trigger removal of the set of packages installed as a dependency to it?05:38
ianorlinlaptopno it won't remove the dependencies05:38
kevjonesinright on. I'll give it a shot. It regards: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218568&p=13039242#post1303924205:39
kevjonesinCool, that allowed removeal of ibus packages.05:45
kevjonesintnx05:46
JohnDoe_71Rusianorlinlaptop: just off iBus to keyboard05:46
kevjonesinHello again, Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the 'run' (command) gui? It's < alt> + <F2> on many distros/desktops, but apparently not on lubuntu LXDE.06:26
Unit193Strange, I must have added that to my openbox config myself.  lxpanelctl run  is the command you want to bind.06:29
cristian_ckevjonesin, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/76964406:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 769644 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "Alt-F2 (or "lxpanelctl run") doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:32
kevjonesintnx, y'all, I'll try the proposed work around from the bug page.06:35
cristian_ckevjonesin, http://daveden.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/lubuntu-keyboard-shortcuts-cheat-sheet/06:36
kevjonesinlol, was just looking at that before coming here to ask about the alt+F2 fail.06:37
kevjonesindoes remind me to bookmark it though06:38
kevjonesinAnother quandry of sorts, when I installed the distro earlier the installer froze early on ("download updates while ..." and "install proprietary ..." page). After some googling I tried togling off the "install proprietary ..." options and then install progressed. Is there a meta-package I can install to add the now missing proprietary stuff?06:43
kevjonesinAh, just found lubuntu-restricted-extras, I'm gussing that's it.06:48
kevjonesin... and followed with flashplugin-installer. Anythingthing else I'm likely missing? I'm presuming that mp3 codecs and such came along with restricted-extras.06:52
Unit193Unless you want DVDs, should be about right.06:54
kevjonesinCool, I'd forgotten about DVD stuff, tnx.06:58
Axis_Hello.10:14
cristian_cHi10:55
cristian_cI've purchased a Rii mini i8 bluetooth keyboard10:55
cristian_cHow can i enable the keyboard in lubuntu?10:55
cristian_cAny ideas?10:55
cristian_cI've paired it10:55
leszekhi10:56
cristian_cleszek, a question10:57
cristian_cleszek, do you know imput devices management in lubuntu?10:58
cristian_c:)10:58
leszekcristian_c: can you specify your question. What is your exact problem =?11:07
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cristian_cleszek,12:32
cristian_cI've purchased a Rii mini i8 bluetooth keyboard12:32
cristian_cHow can i enable the keyboard in lubuntu?12:32
cristian_cI've paired it12:32
cristian_cAny ideas?12:33
leszekpairing should be enough12:34
leszekand then you should be able to start typing12:34
cristian_cleszek, ok, but it's strange12:35
cristian_cI remember I don't see in xinput list output12:35
cristian_cI try again12:35
cristian_c:)12:35
cristian_cleszek, incredible!12:47
cristian_cleszek, I've enabled the keyboard12:47
cristian_cIn 12.04 it didn't worked12:47
cristian_cleszek, but in 14.04 it works12:47
leszeknice ;)12:48
cristian_c:)12:48
cristian_cleszek, there is a problem12:48
leszekwhat problem ?12:49
cristian_cleszek, the pointer shakes a lot12:49
cristian_cas if it was sensible to the air12:50
cristian_c*the air weight12:51
cristian_cI don't understand this weird behaviour12:53
leszekpointer ? you mean the mouse cursor ?12:53
cristian_cyeah12:53
cristian_cleszek, ok, I've paired again12:59
cristian_cpairing with this device is very complex/difficult XD12:59
cristian_cit doesn't shake anymore13:00
cristian_cleszek, thanks for the help!13:02
cristian_c:)13:02
leszeknp ;)13:02
P1rohi, i installed 14.04 yesterday but i have no sound, i did check alsamixer and it detects a spund card but no sound at all, this is the card: IXP SB4x014:11
cristian_cPici, ati, right?14:23
PiciP1ro: ^14:23
cristian_cPici, I had ati ixp sb40014:23
cristian_clol14:23
cristian_cP1ro,14:23
cristian_csorry14:23
Pici:)14:23
P1ro:D14:26
P1ro00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)14:26
P1rowell nm something i done yesterday worked i just realize14:29
cristian_clol14:30
cristian_cP1ro, open alsamixer14:30
P1robut by default i coulnt up the volumen at all, not on systray icon or alsamixer14:30
cristian_cin a terminal14:30
P1roits working right now14:30
cristian_cP1ro, look for the 'external' channel14:30
cristian_clol14:30
P1robut i did a few things i found on forums about this14:31
Hans_I installed icedtea javaplugin and now i have icedtea java web control panel also. is both follow the installation ?15:25
Ekusheythe shutdown button is missing from a friend's LXPanel, can someone help me to get it back?17:01
DutchC64dudes17:02
DutchC64anyone here, cause my brother has got a WEIRD problem17:02
holsteinEkushey: you can add what you like to the panel.. you can always look in a live CD or guest session to see what it what.. i suggest experiementing with one of those to see what the panel items are, and how to manipulate them17:02
Ekusheyholstein: ok17:03
DutchC64he just installed lubuntu 13.10 on his computer (core i7 950 with a geforce gtx 480 graphics card) installed the nvidia driver, everything seems working but somehow he can't get his native monitor resolution17:03
DutchC64he's either stuck at 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution17:04
DutchC64no matter what driver17:04
holsteinDutchC64: install 14.0417:04
DutchC64he has a 1600x1200 screen hooked up to DVI17:04
DutchC64same problem17:04
DutchC6414.04 I mean....same problem17:04
holsteinDutchC64: you may not get "good" support for that device.. if nvidia doesnt provide good linux support.. they likely didnt promise they would17:04
holsteinDutchC64: you should start with 14.04.. 13.10 is EOL soon17:05
holstein!nomodeset17:05
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:05
holsteinalso, trying the vesa driver..17:05
DutchC64according to the nvidia website the 337.19 should work17:06
holsteinDutchC64: there is no "should"..17:09
DutchC64but as I was saying...the 14.04 version of lubuntu has the same problem17:09
holsteinDutchC64: just try different options and see what works17:09
holsteinDutchC64: 14.04 is what you want to be messing with right now.. you say, 13.10 and 14.04 both are not working properly.. so, install 14.04 and work with it to make it the best possible setup.. not 13.1017:10
dzhoholstein++17:27
ianorlinI think the i7 by itself would run lubuntu just fine with integrated graphics17:34
counterhi, my problem is, that  I did not receive a lubuntu keyring request after enter ssh public key passphrase, any advice?17:50
counterso the will not be saved via keyring17:50
counter+ password17:51
ianorlinI think the keyring agent is not active and started by default17:53
countergnome-keyring-d , the deamon is running17:54
ianorlinhmm not sure what the problem is then17:55
counterI needed to installed libp11-kit-gnome-keyring, libpam-gnome-keyring  to activate the deamon and started with "gnome-keyring-daemon --components keyring,pkcs11"18:06
counter@ianorlin the .ssh folder is copied from another system, can this be the reason?18:07
* ianorlin actaully doesn't quite know that much about keyrings I just enter my password each time18:12
HansCan i use wifi on Lubuntu ?18:24
holsteinHans: yes18:26
holstein!wifi18:26
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:26
holsteinmake sure nm-applet is running18:26
counterif nm-applet is not running by default: settings > default settings for lxsession > autostart18:29
counteradd "nm-applet"18:29
HansIs it not possible to scanning for networks ?18:29
holsteinHans: yes18:30
holsteinHans: all aspects of connecting to wifi access points is possible, and quite normal, assuming your hardware supports linux, or is able to be supported18:31
holsteinHans: i see that nm-applet is running, if its not down by the time in the tray, and i click on it, and select the wifi access point, and enter credentials to connect if needed.. if that is not possible, i look at the !wifi link and troubleshoot.. running lspci to see what hardware i have18:32
counterif I try seahorse,  "Message: DNS-SD initialization failed: deamon not running"  which deamon? gnome-keyring-d is running ...18:34
HansIs i need to open network connections and type in the networkname ?18:34
holsteinHans: no18:34
HansI am next to my modem.. wifi on.18:35
holsteinHans: typically, the process is as i outlined above.. you literally click and select from a list..18:35
holsteinHans: wifi has to be more than just "on".. is has to support linux18:35
HansIt works on xubuntu.18:35
holsteinHans: then, it will work in lubuntu.. they are both ubuntu18:35
counterHans: left or right click on the nm-applet icon is all you need to do, the networks around should be shown, usually you only need to select and enter password...18:40
HansWhat is nm-applet and where do i find it ?18:43
holsteinHans: in the tray by the time, friend.. down by the display of the time.. near the time in the panel..18:43
holsteinHans: if its not there, you can start it, by typing "nm-applet" in a terminal and seeing what shows up. then, you can refer above where counter suggested autostart for it18:44
holstein14:29 < counter> if nm-applet is not running by default: settings > default settings for lxsession > autostart18:44
HansI dont like to mess in the terminal. is it other ways?18:45
holsteinHans: yes18:45
counteradd it to autostart and logout, login18:45
holsteinHans: look for it by the time18:45
holsteinHans: then, if its not there, you can start the application as suggested above18:45
holsteinHans: oyou can use "alt+f2" to start it.. the terminal suggestion is just that.. to get it started to see if it shows up18:46
countergood to know ...18:48
countercan someone help with the seahorse "Message: DNS-SD initialization failed: deamon not running"  error ? maybe this causes the keyring problem?18:51
HansCan i make this wifi work in the meny some place ?18:52
melodieHans  nm-applet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ElJVE2oW1818:52
melodieHans check that the button for the wifi is on, on the physical machine18:52
melodieif it is a laptop18:53
holsteinHans: in the menu, specificially in nm-applet .. that is the tool you seek18:54
HansIt is a netbook.. it works on xubuntu.18:54
holsteinHans: sure.. and, xubuntu and lubuntu *are* ubuntu.. so, you *can* connect using the nm-applet configuration tool. if you have not tried, please try.. or consider just using xubuntu if its meeting your needs18:55
Hansxubuntu have a screenbug.18:55
holsteinHans: not here18:55
holsteinHans: regardless.. are you using nm-applet?18:56
Hansnot yet..18:56
holsteinHans: thats literally the only next step for connecting lubuntu to a wireless network.. i have made it many times, and still suggest it18:56
holsteinHans: there is no information to the contrary.. please try it18:57
counterhm, I searched the web but I found no solution ... :/19:03
HansIt works.. your youtube video help me.. Thank you.19:05
HansI shud let it be in the autostart ?19:06
counterHans: yes, of course19:07
counterI think I found a temporary solution for my problem: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=39041 it is in the last post, but I do not know why19:09
HansIs there any special reasen for i have to set it manual ?19:09
counterhans it is a bug @ 14.0419:10
Hanswill an update fix this?19:11
HansIt works for me now anyway..19:12
countercan somone explain why eval? I found "Eval is used for execution dynamically generated code."19:28
counterbye20:12
onla`okay.. I had to boot to windows. I had a 4 days uptime on my lubuntu and I had updated my grub during that time aswell as did some other tweaks that I don't remmeber anymore. Now my x kinda froze. I couldn't do anything, except to move mouse around and switch apps with alt-tab, couldnt click. I switched to tty1, which didnt seem right. I couldnt see text, it was scrambled. I managed to write my login creds and do sudo reboot... now after this reboot, I21:26
onla`I added to my grub consoleblank=0 to not get screen blank after 10mins idle. Well I updated that mode away on tty1 and updated grub again, but still after reboot the screen is black after lubuntu loading screen21:27
onla`how can I debug this? I tried looking at dmesg, but not sure I find anything21:27
onla`my graphics card works normally on windows right now at least... I have had problems with the graphics card earlier on windows when I mined some digital coins with overclocked settings, but since then the card has worked normally21:29
onla`ok I found some things to test, i report back21:33
onla`okay.. I booted with nomodeset, got couple fail notifications but couldnt read it cause it went by so fast. Booted again and tried to record it with my camera, still couldnt see, but this time there was only 1 fail I think. booted again, and again was 1 fail and it loaded something there showing the progress with percentages, and then it did actually boot to lubuntu. Now it gives me "sorry, ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error." and gives me 21:51
onla`but seems like the problems are not gone.. I open firefox and it becomes unresponsive right off the bat21:52
onla`I'll try reboot21:52
onla`hmm ok not yet, chrome is responding. How can I save this error report?21:54
onla`sorry, ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal21:54
onla`https://encrypted.google.com/#q=how+to+save+log+sorry%2C+ubuntu+14.04+has+experienced+an+internal21:54
Autoclesishello22:56
Autoclesiscan I make updates automatic23:05
Autoclesisthis is probably a dumb question23:05
wxlAutoclesis: yep you can. let me find the link.23:12
AutoclesisCool!23:13
AutoclesisThanks wxl23:13
wxlAutoclesis: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html is still valid23:13
AutoclesisWow23:13
* Autoclesis clicks23:13
AutoclesisThis is a very old Compaq computer and lubuntu works fine23:13
wxllubuntu is pretty magical :)23:19
AutoclesisYeah, thanks wxl23:19
wxlnp Autoclesis23:20
AutoclesisI always liked Abiword23:20
Autoclesisbecause of the built in google search of selected text which Libre Office lacks23:20
Autoclesisbut I digress23:21
wxli kind of prefer libreoffice but that's just because abiword can be a bit crashy at times23:21
wxland sometimes inconsistent results importing docs23:21
AutoclesisI didn't want to say that...23:21
Autoclesisor that...23:21
wxland terrible support of docx23:21
Autoclesis:)23:21
Autoclesislol23:21
wxlbut i like it :)23:22
AutoclesisAnd no other wp in the world recognizes .abi?23:22
Autoclesisbut yes23:22
wxli rarely use wysiwyg editors. i'm a vim guy :)23:22
wxlthere is that…23:22
Autoclesisthere's a lovely apple app...23:23
wxlew23:23
Autoclesishehe23:23
Autoclesisdon't worry I'm not a double agent23:23
* wxl sighs a sigh of relief23:24
Autoclesisit would turn different parts of speech different colors23:24
Autoclesis"phraseology" app23:24
wxlpsychedelic :)23:24
Autoclesisyes. if you were a heavy noun abuser it would show that23:25
wxlthat's curious23:25

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