[05:34] <kevjonesin> Hello, does anyone know how to remove ibus packages from lubuntu 14.04 without breaking lubuntu-desktop?
[05:36] <ianorlinlaptop> lubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[05:36] <ianorlinlaptop> you will need it back to upgrade though
[05:38] <kevjonesin> mmm, won't removing the meta-package trigger removal of the set of packages installed as a dependency to it?
[05:38] <ianorlinlaptop> no it won't remove the dependencies
[05:39] <kevjonesin> right on. I'll give it a shot. It regards: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218568&p=13039242#post13039242
[05:45] <kevjonesin> Cool, that allowed removeal of ibus packages.
[05:46] <kevjonesin> tnx
[05:46] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ianorlinlaptop: just off iBus to keyboard
[06:26] <kevjonesin> Hello again, Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the 'run' (command) gui? It's < alt> + <F2> on many distros/desktops, but apparently not on lubuntu LXDE.
[06:29] <Unit193> Strange, I must have added that to my openbox config myself.  lxpanelctl run  is the command you want to bind.
[06:32] <cristian_c> kevjonesin, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/769644
[06:35] <kevjonesin> tnx, y'all, I'll try the proposed work around from the bug page.
[06:36] <cristian_c> kevjonesin, http://daveden.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/lubuntu-keyboard-shortcuts-cheat-sheet/
[06:37] <kevjonesin> lol, was just looking at that before coming here to ask about the alt+F2 fail.
[06:38] <kevjonesin> does remind me to bookmark it though
[06:43] <kevjonesin> Another quandry of sorts, when I installed the distro earlier the installer froze early on ("download updates while ..." and "install proprietary ..." page). After some googling I tried togling off the "install proprietary ..." options and then install progressed. Is there a meta-package I can install to add the now missing proprietary stuff?
[06:48] <kevjonesin> Ah, just found lubuntu-restricted-extras, I'm gussing that's it.
[06:52] <kevjonesin> ... and followed with flashplugin-installer. Anythingthing else I'm likely missing? I'm presuming that mp3 codecs and such came along with restricted-extras.
[06:54] <Unit193> Unless you want DVDs, should be about right.
[06:58] <kevjonesin> Cool, I'd forgotten about DVD stuff, tnx.
[10:14] <Axis_> Hello.
[10:55] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:55] <cristian_c> I've purchased a Rii mini i8 bluetooth keyboard
[10:55] <cristian_c> How can i enable the keyboard in lubuntu?
[10:55] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:55] <cristian_c> I've paired it
[10:56] <leszek> hi
[10:57] <cristian_c> leszek, a question
[10:58] <cristian_c> leszek, do you know imput devices management in lubuntu?
[10:58] <cristian_c> :)
[11:07] <leszek> cristian_c: can you specify your question. What is your exact problem =?
[12:32] <cristian_c> leszek,
[12:32] <cristian_c> I've purchased a Rii mini i8 bluetooth keyboard
[12:32] <cristian_c> How can i enable the keyboard in lubuntu?
[12:32] <cristian_c> I've paired it
[12:33] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[12:34] <leszek> pairing should be enough
[12:34] <leszek> and then you should be able to start typing
[12:35] <cristian_c> leszek, ok, but it's strange
[12:35] <cristian_c> I remember I don't see in xinput list output
[12:35] <cristian_c> I try again
[12:35] <cristian_c> :)
[12:47] <cristian_c> leszek, incredible!
[12:47] <cristian_c> leszek, I've enabled the keyboard
[12:47] <cristian_c> In 12.04 it didn't worked
[12:47] <cristian_c> leszek, but in 14.04 it works
[12:48] <leszek> nice ;)
[12:48] <cristian_c> :)
[12:48] <cristian_c> leszek, there is a problem
[12:49] <leszek> what problem ?
[12:49] <cristian_c> leszek, the pointer shakes a lot
[12:50] <cristian_c> as if it was sensible to the air
[12:51] <cristian_c> *the air weight
[12:53] <cristian_c> I don't understand this weird behaviour
[12:53] <leszek> pointer ? you mean the mouse cursor ?
[12:53] <cristian_c> yeah
[12:59] <cristian_c> leszek, ok, I've paired again
[12:59] <cristian_c> pairing with this device is very complex/difficult XD
[13:00] <cristian_c> it doesn't shake anymore
[13:02] <cristian_c> leszek, thanks for the help!
[13:02] <cristian_c> :)
[13:02] <leszek> np ;)
[14:11] <P1ro> hi, i installed 14.04 yesterday but i have no sound, i did check alsamixer and it detects a spund card but no sound at all, this is the card: IXP SB4x0
[14:23] <cristian_c> Pici, ati, right?
[14:23] <Pici> P1ro: ^
[14:23] <cristian_c> Pici, I had ati ixp sb400
[14:23] <cristian_c> lol
[14:23] <cristian_c> P1ro,
[14:23] <cristian_c> sorry
[14:23] <Pici> :)
[14:26] <P1ro> :D
[14:26] <P1ro> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[14:29] <P1ro> well nm something i done yesterday worked i just realize
[14:30] <cristian_c> lol
[14:30] <cristian_c> P1ro, open alsamixer
[14:30] <P1ro> but by default i coulnt up the volumen at all, not on systray icon or alsamixer
[14:30] <cristian_c> in a terminal
[14:30] <P1ro> its working right now
[14:30] <cristian_c> P1ro, look for the 'external' channel
[14:30] <cristian_c> lol
[14:31] <P1ro> but i did a few things i found on forums about this
[15:25] <Hans_> I installed icedtea javaplugin and now i have icedtea java web control panel also. is both follow the installation ?
[17:01] <Ekushey> the shutdown button is missing from a friend's LXPanel, can someone help me to get it back?
[17:02] <DutchC64> dudes
[17:02] <DutchC64> anyone here, cause my brother has got a WEIRD problem
[17:02] <holstein> Ekushey: you can add what you like to the panel.. you can always look in a live CD or guest session to see what it what.. i suggest experiementing with one of those to see what the panel items are, and how to manipulate them
[17:03] <Ekushey> holstein: ok
[17:03] <DutchC64> he just installed lubuntu 13.10 on his computer (core i7 950 with a geforce gtx 480 graphics card) installed the nvidia driver, everything seems working but somehow he can't get his native monitor resolution
[17:04] <DutchC64> he's either stuck at 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution
[17:04] <DutchC64> no matter what driver
[17:04] <holstein> DutchC64: install 14.04
[17:04] <DutchC64> he has a 1600x1200 screen hooked up to DVI
[17:04] <DutchC64> same problem
[17:04] <DutchC64> 14.04 I mean....same problem
[17:04] <holstein> DutchC64: you may not get "good" support for that device.. if nvidia doesnt provide good linux support.. they likely didnt promise they would
[17:05] <holstein> DutchC64: you should start with 14.04.. 13.10 is EOL soon
[17:05] <holstein> !nomodeset
[17:05] <holstein> also, trying the vesa driver..
[17:06] <DutchC64> according to the nvidia website the 337.19 should work
[17:09] <holstein> DutchC64: there is no "should"..
[17:09] <DutchC64> but as I was saying...the 14.04 version of lubuntu has the same problem
[17:09] <holstein> DutchC64: just try different options and see what works
[17:10] <holstein> DutchC64: 14.04 is what you want to be messing with right now.. you say, 13.10 and 14.04 both are not working properly.. so, install 14.04 and work with it to make it the best possible setup.. not 13.10
[17:27] <dzho> holstein++
[17:34] <ianorlin> I think the i7 by itself would run lubuntu just fine with integrated graphics
[17:50] <counter> hi, my problem is, that  I did not receive a lubuntu keyring request after enter ssh public key passphrase, any advice?
[17:50] <counter> so the will not be saved via keyring
[17:51] <counter> + password
[17:53] <ianorlin> I think the keyring agent is not active and started by default
[17:54] <counter> gnome-keyring-d , the deamon is running
[17:55] <ianorlin> hmm not sure what the problem is then
[18:06] <counter> I needed to installed libp11-kit-gnome-keyring, libpam-gnome-keyring  to activate the deamon and started with "gnome-keyring-daemon --components keyring,pkcs11"
[18:07] <counter> @ianorlin the .ssh folder is copied from another system, can this be the reason?
[18:12]  * ianorlin actaully doesn't quite know that much about keyrings I just enter my password each time
[18:24] <Hans> Can i use wifi on Lubuntu ?
[18:26] <holstein> Hans: yes
[18:26] <holstein> !wifi
[18:26] <holstein> make sure nm-applet is running
[18:29] <counter> if nm-applet is not running by default: settings > default settings for lxsession > autostart
[18:29] <counter> add "nm-applet"
[18:29] <Hans> Is it not possible to scanning for networks ?
[18:30] <holstein> Hans: yes
[18:31] <holstein> Hans: all aspects of connecting to wifi access points is possible, and quite normal, assuming your hardware supports linux, or is able to be supported
[18:32] <holstein> Hans: i see that nm-applet is running, if its not down by the time in the tray, and i click on it, and select the wifi access point, and enter credentials to connect if needed.. if that is not possible, i look at the !wifi link and troubleshoot.. running lspci to see what hardware i have
[18:34] <counter> if I try seahorse,  "Message: DNS-SD initialization failed: deamon not running"  which deamon? gnome-keyring-d is running ...
[18:34] <Hans> Is i need to open network connections and type in the networkname ?
[18:34] <holstein> Hans: no
[18:35] <Hans> I am next to my modem.. wifi on.
[18:35] <holstein> Hans: typically, the process is as i outlined above.. you literally click and select from a list..
[18:35] <holstein> Hans: wifi has to be more than just "on".. is has to support linux
[18:35] <Hans> It works on xubuntu.
[18:35] <holstein> Hans: then, it will work in lubuntu.. they are both ubuntu
[18:40] <counter> Hans: left or right click on the nm-applet icon is all you need to do, the networks around should be shown, usually you only need to select and enter password...
[18:43] <Hans> What is nm-applet and where do i find it ?
[18:43] <holstein> Hans: in the tray by the time, friend.. down by the display of the time.. near the time in the panel..
[18:44] <holstein> Hans: if its not there, you can start it, by typing "nm-applet" in a terminal and seeing what shows up. then, you can refer above where counter suggested autostart for it
[18:44] <holstein> 14:29 < counter> if nm-applet is not running by default: settings > default settings for lxsession > autostart
[18:45] <Hans> I dont like to mess in the terminal. is it other ways?
[18:45] <holstein> Hans: yes
[18:45] <counter> add it to autostart and logout, login
[18:45] <holstein> Hans: look for it by the time
[18:45] <holstein> Hans: then, if its not there, you can start the application as suggested above
[18:46] <holstein> Hans: oyou can use "alt+f2" to start it.. the terminal suggestion is just that.. to get it started to see if it shows up
[18:48] <counter> good to know ...
[18:51] <counter> can someone help with the seahorse "Message: DNS-SD initialization failed: deamon not running"  error ? maybe this causes the keyring problem?
[18:52] <Hans> Can i make this wifi work in the meny some place ?
[18:52] <melodie> Hans  nm-applet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ElJVE2oW18
[18:52] <melodie> Hans check that the button for the wifi is on, on the physical machine
[18:53] <melodie> if it is a laptop
[18:54] <holstein> Hans: in the menu, specificially in nm-applet .. that is the tool you seek
[18:54] <Hans> It is a netbook.. it works on xubuntu.
[18:55] <holstein> Hans: sure.. and, xubuntu and lubuntu *are* ubuntu.. so, you *can* connect using the nm-applet configuration tool. if you have not tried, please try.. or consider just using xubuntu if its meeting your needs
[18:55] <Hans> xubuntu have a screenbug.
[18:55] <holstein> Hans: not here
[18:56] <holstein> Hans: regardless.. are you using nm-applet?
[18:56] <Hans> not yet..
[18:56] <holstein> Hans: thats literally the only next step for connecting lubuntu to a wireless network.. i have made it many times, and still suggest it
[18:57] <holstein> Hans: there is no information to the contrary.. please try it
[19:03] <counter> hm, I searched the web but I found no solution ... :/
[19:05] <Hans> It works.. your youtube video help me.. Thank you.
[19:06] <Hans> I shud let it be in the autostart ?
[19:07] <counter> Hans: yes, of course
[19:09] <counter> I think I found a temporary solution for my problem: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=39041 it is in the last post, but I do not know why
[19:09] <Hans> Is there any special reasen for i have to set it manual ?
[19:10] <counter> hans it is a bug @ 14.04
[19:11] <Hans> will an update fix this?
[19:12] <Hans> It works for me now anyway..
[19:28] <counter> can somone explain why eval? I found "Eval is used for execution dynamically generated code."
[20:12] <counter> bye
[21:26] <onla`> okay.. I had to boot to windows. I had a 4 days uptime on my lubuntu and I had updated my grub during that time aswell as did some other tweaks that I don't remmeber anymore. Now my x kinda froze. I couldn't do anything, except to move mouse around and switch apps with alt-tab, couldnt click. I switched to tty1, which didnt seem right. I couldnt see text, it was scrambled. I managed to write my login creds and do sudo reboot... now after this reboot, I
[21:27] <onla`> I added to my grub consoleblank=0 to not get screen blank after 10mins idle. Well I updated that mode away on tty1 and updated grub again, but still after reboot the screen is black after lubuntu loading screen
[21:27] <onla`> how can I debug this? I tried looking at dmesg, but not sure I find anything
[21:29] <onla`> my graphics card works normally on windows right now at least... I have had problems with the graphics card earlier on windows when I mined some digital coins with overclocked settings, but since then the card has worked normally
[21:33] <onla`> ok I found some things to test, i report back
[21:51] <onla`> okay.. I booted with nomodeset, got couple fail notifications but couldnt read it cause it went by so fast. Booted again and tried to record it with my camera, still couldnt see, but this time there was only 1 fail I think. booted again, and again was 1 fail and it loaded something there showing the progress with percentages, and then it did actually boot to lubuntu. Now it gives me "sorry, ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error." and gives me 
[21:52] <onla`> but seems like the problems are not gone.. I open firefox and it becomes unresponsive right off the bat
[21:52] <onla`> I'll try reboot
[21:54] <onla`> hmm ok not yet, chrome is responding. How can I save this error report?
[21:54] <onla`> sorry, ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal
[21:54] <onla`> https://encrypted.google.com/#q=how+to+save+log+sorry%2C+ubuntu+14.04+has+experienced+an+internal
[22:56] <Autoclesis> hello
[23:05] <Autoclesis> can I make updates automatic
[23:05] <Autoclesis> this is probably a dumb question
[23:12] <wxl> Autoclesis: yep you can. let me find the link.
[23:13] <Autoclesis> Cool!
[23:13] <Autoclesis> Thanks wxl
[23:13] <wxl> Autoclesis: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html is still valid
[23:13] <Autoclesis> Wow
[23:13]  * Autoclesis clicks
[23:13] <Autoclesis> This is a very old Compaq computer and lubuntu works fine
[23:19] <wxl> lubuntu is pretty magical :)
[23:19] <Autoclesis> Yeah, thanks wxl
[23:20] <wxl> np Autoclesis
[23:20] <Autoclesis> I always liked Abiword
[23:20] <Autoclesis> because of the built in google search of selected text which Libre Office lacks
[23:21] <Autoclesis> but I digress
[23:21] <wxl> i kind of prefer libreoffice but that's just because abiword can be a bit crashy at times
[23:21] <wxl> and sometimes inconsistent results importing docs
[23:21] <Autoclesis> I didn't want to say that...
[23:21] <Autoclesis> or that...
[23:21] <wxl> and terrible support of docx
[23:21] <Autoclesis> :)
[23:21] <Autoclesis> lol
[23:22] <wxl> but i like it :)
[23:22] <Autoclesis> And no other wp in the world recognizes .abi?
[23:22] <Autoclesis> but yes
[23:22] <wxl> i rarely use wysiwyg editors. i'm a vim guy :)
[23:22] <wxl> there is that…
[23:23] <Autoclesis> there's a lovely apple app...
[23:23] <wxl> ew
[23:23] <Autoclesis> hehe
[23:23] <Autoclesis> don't worry I'm not a double agent
[23:24]  * wxl sighs a sigh of relief
[23:24] <Autoclesis> it would turn different parts of speech different colors
[23:24] <Autoclesis> "phraseology" app
[23:24] <wxl> psychedelic :)
[23:25] <Autoclesis> yes. if you were a heavy noun abuser it would show that
[23:25] <wxl> that's curious