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| mihir | Good Morning :) | 06:22 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Rocky Road Day! :-D | 08:48 |
| DanChapman | Good Morning all | 08:54 |
| nik90_ | bzoltan: hey, could you release UITK 0.1.46+14.10.20140527-0ubuntu1 to the PPA please. | 09:51 |
| bzoltan | nik90_: sure | 09:51 |
| nik90_ | bzoltan: thnx | 09:51 |
| nik90_ | bzoltan: also I was discussing in our core apps hangout meeting about the availability of Qt 5.3 in the PPA. Would that be provided in the SDK PPA? | 09:52 |
| nik90_ | s/our/my | 09:52 |
| bzoltan | nik90_: no, the PPA will not receive any Qt updates | 09:53 |
| bzoltan | nik90_: the qt5.3 is already available in an other PPA | 09:53 |
| nik90_ | bzoltan: so I could technically add the other PPA and the SDK PPA and have a working UITK in Qt 5.3? | 09:53 |
| nik90_ | when the whole transition is over | 09:54 |
| dpm | morning popey, core apps branches review call? | 10:03 |
| popey | hey | 10:04 |
| popey | stupid phone didnt alarm ☹ | 10:04 |
| dpm | popey, is it ok to upgrade to the latest -proposed image on the N4? I read on the ML that it brings a black screen on flo, but I'm not sure if affects all devices | 10:29 |
| popey | latest proposed is fine dpm | 10:30 |
| dpm | ok, upgrading then, thanks! | 10:30 |
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| dpm | popey, so this morning when I said Reminders already had the last translations I made a mistake. Could we prepare a store upload for Reminders from trunk? | 13:18 |
| popey | sure, I'll do that now | 13:18 |
| popey | dpm: jenkins already has r155 built as a click to go. | 13:19 |
| popey | dpm: do you know if the AP tests work / pass? | 13:19 |
| popey | I'll try here, but last time I tried it all went wrong. | 13:19 |
| dpm | popey, excellent, thank you. Afaik, the tests that we've got should pass | 13:21 |
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| dpm | popey, ah, sorry, didn't see your last comment. If they fail, let me know and let's ping Leo when he's around | 13:25 |
| popey | ok | 13:26 |
| danielbeck_ | hello! The ubuntu touch emualtor (x86) does not work on my machine. The screen stays black. | 13:54 |
| danielbeck_ | I posted the log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7573163/ . Does someone know how to get the emulator to work? | 13:55 |
| dpm | hi danielbeck_ - I cannot help, sorry. I'd suggest to ping rsalveti on #ubuntu-touch. He should be able to help | 13:56 |
| danielbeck_ | thanks dpm | 13:56 |
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| renato_ | jdstrand, ping | 14:10 |
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| popey | dpm: mhall119 http://imgur.com/ujRRueF | 14:55 |
| dpm | popey, cool, so that's the latest trunk with a working password prompt (and no re-prompts) and fetching e-mails? | 14:56 |
| popey | yes | 15:00 |
| mhall119 | popey: I posted screenshots last week with it using the new header too, looks even nicer (but doesn't all work) | 15:00 |
| * popey hugs DanChapman | 15:02 | |
| DanChapman | :-D | 15:09 |
| popey | this makes the phone 10x more useful. | 15:10 |
| popey | DanChapman: we were chatting just now about getting Trojita in the store. | 15:10 |
| popey | Seems sending mail is the only real major thing missing before we do that. Do you agree? | 15:10 |
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| DanChapman | popey, yeah i would say so. Plus a bit of tidying up for a first release. I sent a message to the ML to try and get it progressing, so gcollura's branch doesn't get stale. | 15:26 |
| popey | DanChapman: I think it's fine for us to have a "warts and all" 'beta' release in the store. Especially if we help users to find the bug tracker and other help channels if they get problems. | 15:27 |
| popey | We can add some of that detail in the app description in the store, (do people read that?) ☻ | 15:28 |
| popey | You (or someone else) could blog about it before it hits the store too, to raise awareness and let people know where to get help, and what to expect? | 15:28 |
| dpm | bfiller, when you've got a minute, would it be possible to do an upload of Gallery and Camera to the store? Last week oSoMoN prepared a landing that includes translations for the MAE image and the last step is just to upload the clicks to the store. I asked Sergio last week if he could do it, but he's been probably busy with other stuff and he's not online now | 15:31 |
| t1mp | mhall119: screenshots, new header? url? | 15:32 |
| * t1mp lazy to make a sentence ;) | 15:32 | |
| bfiller | dpm: will do | 15:32 |
| dpm | great, thanks! | 15:32 |
| DanChapman | popey, Yeah the app description is a good place i would say. I plan to get my blog up and running again anyway, so i can definately start posting about it | 15:34 |
| popey | Great! | 15:34 |
| mhall119 | t1mp: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/iEPjDAvyxdn | 15:41 |
| t1mp | mhall119: nice :) | 15:57 |
| t1mp | mhall119: I think it looks better than the toolbar.. just we need to switch the icon themes soon to get the proper back icon | 15:58 |
| frecel | what is the launchpad project for notifications | 16:21 |
| frecel | ? | 16:22 |
| frecel | When I'm getting a text message the notification has a phone number in it even though the number is in my contacts | 16:22 |
| frecel | is that a known bug? | 16:23 |
| kenvandine | frecel, not sure if it's known, but you can file that against the telephony-service package | 16:44 |
| frecel | kenvandine: I filed it against indicator-messages https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1325649 | 16:47 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1325649 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "Notification displays phone number instead of a name" [Undecided,New] | 16:47 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: once the new header API lands, will we (app devs) need to make changes to the transitions we just did? | 17:12 |
| ahayzen | nik90_, transitions? | 17:17 |
| nik90_ | ahayzen: we just transitioned from the old toolbar to the new headers. Once the new headers API land, do we need to make any changes. | 17:18 |
| ahayzen | nik90_, ah right thought u meant like transitions as in effects | 17:18 |
| nik90_ | ahayzen: ah no..my bad | 17:19 |
| nik90_ | wrong choice of words :P | 17:19 |
| ahayzen | ;) | 17:19 |
| nik90_ | ahayzen: hey, does it make sense to have another core apps hangout this week? As in do we have stuff to discuss? | 17:20 |
| ahayzen | nik90_, erm i don't mind we could have one more in the american timezone to pick up the others guys? I've just added a load of stuff to the trello board for music-app which is all WIP | 17:21 |
| * nik90_ looks at the trello board | 17:21 | |
| ahayzen | nik90_, most of it has code from us but is either hitting issues/blocked upstream/trying to fix AP tests | 17:22 |
| nik90_ | ahayzen: alrite, I will send a mail to the mailing list. Hopefully we can get the rss reader folks and file manager devs. | 17:22 |
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| nik90_ | popey: when is the next file manager meeting? | 17:22 |
| ahayzen | nik90_, yeah that would be good | 17:22 |
| popey | nik90_: tomorrow evening | 17:23 |
| nik90_ | popey: what time? I like to join to ask if the file manager devs can join us in the core apps hangout this week. | 17:24 |
| popey | nik90_: 20 UTC | 17:25 |
| nik90_ | popey: thnx | 17:25 |
| mihir | popey: did we got trell board for calculator and calendar ? | 17:26 |
| nik90_ | mihir: https://trello.com/b/Ie2rAS3W/core-apps-management | 17:27 |
| nik90_ | mihir: it is a common board for all core apps | 17:27 |
| mihir | nik90_: could you please invite me , ? | 17:27 |
| mihir | nik90_: email :- mihirsoni.123@gmail.com | 17:27 |
| nik90_ | mihir: I am not admin, so I dont think I can invite other members | 17:28 |
| popey | i thought i had, sorry | 17:28 |
| mihir | popey: could you please ? | 17:28 |
| popey | done | 17:28 |
| mihir | popey: thanks a lot : | 17:29 |
| nik90_ | popey: have you heard from the weather app guys recently? | 17:32 |
| popey | Yes, mbo is around. | 17:35 |
| t1mp | nik90_: we won't break whatever we have now | 17:36 |
| t1mp | nik90_: but there will be some new functionality for which you will need to use the new API | 17:36 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: ok | 17:37 |
| t1mp | nik90_: the new API will add (for example) a head.actions property to the Page to set the actions in the header | 17:37 |
| mihir | popey: when you get time , could you test this on device , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1297739 | 17:37 |
| t1mp | nik90_: but if you set only tools, as you do now, the actions will automatically be extracted from the tools | 17:37 |
| t1mp | nik90_: so no need to change, but the code will become prettier if you switch to use the new actions property :) | 17:37 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: ah I understand now | 17:38 |
| t1mp | we'll keep it compatible with the code you have now | 17:38 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: btw, did you have the faintest idea if dialog will stay or would it be deprecated like sheets? | 17:38 |
| t1mp | nik90_: it will stay | 17:38 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: I am moving some stuff from popover to dialog since I cannot use popover on the new headers properly | 17:38 |
| t1mp | nik90_: why doesn't popover work? if you don't set a caller, there won't be a pointer and it will be centered in the screen.. that should work? | 17:39 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: it does work on a tablet and desktop. However on the phone the location of the popover is wrong. it sticks to the top of the screen. | 17:40 |
| t1mp | hmm | 17:40 |
| t1mp | maybe that's a bug | 17:40 |
| t1mp | when I first created the popover it was centered when there is no caller, I don't know if it was changed afterwards | 17:41 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: yeah..I will report the bug | 17:41 |
| t1mp | ok | 17:41 |
| nik90_ | I got to go..dinner is calling..bye | 17:41 |
| t1mp | nik90_: I have seen some updated visual designs for both dialog and popover, so they are not going away :) | 17:41 |
| t1mp | nik90_: it depends on what you want to accomplish whether you should use a popover or dialog, | 17:42 |
| t1mp | from a design doc, dialog: We use this pattern when we need people to make a decision before carrying on using the app. | 17:42 |
| t1mp | Note: The dialog can be launched from the main app view, or from within a popover. | 17:42 |
| t1mp | and popover: We use popovers when there are a few more options to show and we don’t want to change the view. | 17:43 |
| t1mp | nik90_: interesting, in the design mockup the popover on the phone is also at the top of the screen | 17:43 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: hmm. that's interesting | 18:54 |
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| t1mp | nik90_: I cannot share the doc, we have to ask giorgoventuri or bjkeyser for that, but the document is still work in progress, maybe we have to wait until it is done | 19:14 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: no worries, in that case I will stick with the popover since I just want to show more options without changing the view. | 19:14 |
| t1mp | nik90_: it is also easier for you :) if the positioning is wrong we need to fix that in uitk | 19:15 |
| nik90_ | t1mp: yeah :) ... I noticed that the incorrect positioning only happens in the phone portrait mode...in the landscape mode the positioning is correct. | 19:17 |
| nik90_ | let me try to reproduce it with a sample app. | 19:17 |
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