[06:22] <mihir> Good Morning :)
[08:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Rocky Road Day! :-D
[08:54] <DanChapman> Good Morning all
[09:51] <nik90_> bzoltan: hey, could you release UITK 0.1.46+14.10.20140527-0ubuntu1 to the PPA please.
[09:51] <bzoltan> nik90_:  sure
[09:51] <nik90_> bzoltan: thnx
[09:52] <nik90_> bzoltan: also I was discussing in our core apps hangout meeting about the availability of Qt 5.3 in the PPA. Would that be provided in the SDK PPA?
[09:52] <nik90_> s/our/my
[09:53] <bzoltan> nik90_:  no, the PPA will not receive any Qt updates
[09:53] <bzoltan> nik90_:  the qt5.3 is already available in an other PPA
[09:53] <nik90_> bzoltan: so I could technically add the other PPA and the SDK PPA and have a working UITK in Qt 5.3?
[09:54] <nik90_> when the whole transition is over
[10:03] <dpm> morning popey, core apps branches review call?
[10:04] <popey> hey
[10:04] <popey> stupid phone didnt alarm ☹
[10:29] <dpm> popey, is it ok to upgrade to the latest -proposed image on the N4? I read on the ML that it brings a black screen on flo, but I'm not sure if affects all devices
[10:30] <popey> latest proposed is fine dpm
[10:30] <dpm> ok, upgrading then, thanks!
[13:18] <dpm> popey, so this morning when I said Reminders already had the last translations I made a mistake. Could we prepare a store upload for Reminders from trunk?
[13:18] <popey> sure, I'll do that now
[13:19] <popey> dpm: jenkins already has r155 built as a click to go.
[13:19] <popey> dpm: do you know if the AP tests work / pass?
[13:19] <popey> I'll try here, but last time I tried it all went wrong.
[13:21] <dpm> popey, excellent, thank you. Afaik, the tests that we've got should pass
[13:25] <dpm> popey, ah, sorry, didn't see your last comment. If they fail, let me know and let's ping Leo when he's around
[13:26] <popey> ok
[13:54] <danielbeck_> hello! The ubuntu touch emualtor (x86) does not work on my machine. The screen stays black.
[13:55] <danielbeck_> I posted the log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7573163/ . Does someone know how to get the emulator to work?
[13:56] <dpm> hi danielbeck_ - I cannot help, sorry. I'd suggest to ping rsalveti on #ubuntu-touch. He should be able to help
[13:56] <danielbeck_> thanks dpm
[14:10] <renato_> jdstrand, ping
[14:55] <popey> dpm: mhall119 http://imgur.com/ujRRueF
[14:56] <dpm> popey, cool, so that's the latest trunk with a working password prompt (and no re-prompts) and fetching e-mails?
[15:00] <popey> yes
[15:00] <mhall119> popey: I posted screenshots last week with it using the new header too, looks even nicer (but doesn't all work)
[15:02]  * popey hugs DanChapman 
[15:09] <DanChapman> :-D
[15:10] <popey> this makes the phone 10x more useful.
[15:10] <popey> DanChapman: we were chatting just now about getting Trojita in the store.
[15:10] <popey> Seems sending mail is the only real major thing missing before we do that. Do you agree?
[15:26] <DanChapman> popey, yeah i would say so. Plus a bit of tidying up for a first release. I sent a message to the ML to try and get it progressing, so gcollura's branch doesn't get stale.
[15:27] <popey> DanChapman: I think it's fine for us to have a "warts and all" 'beta' release in the store. Especially if we help users to find the bug tracker and other help channels if they get problems.
[15:28] <popey> We can add some of that detail in the app description in the store, (do people read that?) ☻
[15:28] <popey> You (or someone else) could blog about it before it hits the store too, to raise awareness and let people know where to get help, and what to expect?
[15:31] <dpm> bfiller, when you've got a minute, would it be possible to do an upload of Gallery and Camera to the store? Last week oSoMoN prepared a landing that includes translations for the MAE image and the last step is just to upload the clicks to the store. I asked Sergio last week if he could do it, but he's been probably busy with other stuff and he's not online now
[15:32] <t1mp> mhall119: screenshots, new header? url?
[15:32]  * t1mp lazy to make a sentence ;)
[15:32] <bfiller> dpm: will do
[15:32] <dpm> great, thanks!
[15:34] <DanChapman> popey, Yeah the app description is a good place i would say. I plan to get my blog up and running again anyway, so i can definately start posting about it
[15:34] <popey> Great!
[15:41] <mhall119> t1mp: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/iEPjDAvyxdn
[15:57] <t1mp> mhall119: nice :)
[15:58] <t1mp> mhall119: I think it looks better than the toolbar.. just we need to switch the icon themes soon to get the proper back icon
[16:21] <frecel> what is the launchpad project for notifications
[16:22] <frecel> ?
[16:22] <frecel> When I'm getting a text message the notification has a phone number in it even though the number is in my contacts
[16:23] <frecel> is that a known bug?
[16:44] <kenvandine> frecel, not sure if it's known, but you can file that against the telephony-service package
[16:47] <frecel> kenvandine: I filed it against indicator-messages https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1325649
[17:12] <nik90_> t1mp: once the new header API lands, will we (app devs) need to make changes to the transitions we just did?
[17:17] <ahayzen> nik90_, transitions?
[17:18] <nik90_> ahayzen: we just transitioned from the old toolbar to the new headers. Once the new headers API land, do we need to make any changes.
[17:18] <ahayzen> nik90_, ah right thought u meant like transitions as in effects
[17:19] <nik90_> ahayzen: ah no..my bad
[17:19] <nik90_> wrong choice of words :P
[17:19] <ahayzen> ;)
[17:20] <nik90_> ahayzen: hey, does it make sense to have another core apps hangout this week? As in do we have stuff to discuss?
[17:21] <ahayzen> nik90_, erm i don't mind we could have one more in the american timezone to pick up the others guys? I've just added a load of stuff to the trello board for music-app which is all WIP
[17:21]  * nik90_ looks at the trello board
[17:22] <ahayzen> nik90_, most of it has code from us but is either hitting issues/blocked upstream/trying to fix AP tests
[17:22] <nik90_> ahayzen: alrite, I will send a mail to the mailing list. Hopefully we can get the rss reader folks and file manager devs.
[17:22] <nik90_> popey: when is the next file manager meeting?
[17:22] <ahayzen> nik90_, yeah that would be good
[17:23] <popey> nik90_: tomorrow evening
[17:24] <nik90_> popey: what time? I like to join to ask if the file manager devs can join us in the core apps hangout this week.
[17:25] <popey> nik90_: 20 UTC
[17:25] <nik90_> popey: thnx
[17:26] <mihir> popey: did we got trell board for calculator and calendar ?
[17:27] <nik90_> mihir: https://trello.com/b/Ie2rAS3W/core-apps-management
[17:27] <nik90_> mihir: it is a common board for all core apps
[17:27] <mihir> nik90_: could you please invite me , ?
[17:27] <mihir> nik90_: email :- mihirsoni.123@gmail.com
[17:28] <nik90_> mihir: I am not admin, so I dont think I can invite other members
[17:28] <popey> i thought i had, sorry
[17:28] <mihir> popey: could you please ?
[17:28] <popey> done
[17:29] <mihir> popey: thanks a lot :
[17:32] <nik90_> popey: have you heard from the weather app guys recently?
[17:35] <popey> Yes, mbo is around.
[17:36] <t1mp> nik90_: we won't break whatever we have now
[17:36] <t1mp> nik90_: but there will be some new functionality for which you will need to use the new API
[17:37] <nik90_> t1mp: ok
[17:37] <t1mp> nik90_: the new API will add (for example) a head.actions property to the Page to set the actions in the header
[17:37] <mihir> popey: when you get time , could you test this on device , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1297739
[17:37] <t1mp> nik90_: but if you set only tools, as you do now, the actions will automatically be extracted from the tools
[17:37] <t1mp> nik90_: so no need to change, but the code will become prettier if you switch to use the new actions property :)
[17:38] <nik90_> t1mp: ah I understand now
[17:38] <t1mp> we'll keep it compatible with the code you have now
[17:38] <nik90_> t1mp: btw, did you have the faintest idea if dialog will stay or would it be deprecated like sheets?
[17:38] <t1mp> nik90_: it will stay
[17:38] <nik90_> t1mp: I am moving some stuff from popover to dialog since I cannot use popover on the new headers properly
[17:39] <t1mp> nik90_: why doesn't popover work? if you don't set a caller, there won't be a pointer and it will be centered in the screen.. that should work?
[17:40] <nik90_> t1mp: it does work on a tablet and desktop. However on the phone the location of the popover is wrong. it sticks to the top of the screen.
[17:40] <t1mp> hmm
[17:40] <t1mp> maybe that's a bug
[17:41] <t1mp> when I first created the popover it was centered when there is no caller, I don't know if it was changed afterwards
[17:41] <nik90_> t1mp: yeah..I will report the bug
[17:41] <t1mp> ok
[17:41] <nik90_> I got to go..dinner is calling..bye
[17:41] <t1mp> nik90_: I have seen some updated visual designs for both dialog and popover, so they are not going away :)
[17:42] <t1mp> nik90_: it depends on what you want to accomplish whether you should use a popover or dialog,
[17:42] <t1mp> from a design doc, dialog: We use this pattern when we need people to make a decision before carrying on using the app.
[17:42] <t1mp> Note: The dialog can be launched from the main app view, or from within a popover.
[17:43] <t1mp> and popover: We use popovers when there are a few more options to show and we don’t want to change the view.
[17:43] <t1mp> nik90_: interesting, in the design mockup the popover on the phone is also at the top of the screen
[18:54] <nik90_> t1mp: hmm. that's interesting
[19:14] <t1mp> nik90_: I cannot share the doc, we have to ask giorgoventuri or bjkeyser for that, but the document is still work in progress, maybe we have to wait until it is done
[19:14] <nik90_> t1mp: no worries, in that case I will stick with the popover since I just want to show more options without changing the view.
[19:15] <t1mp> nik90_: it is also easier for you :) if the positioning is wrong we need to fix that in uitk
[19:17] <nik90_> t1mp: yeah :) ... I noticed that the incorrect positioning only happens in the phone portrait mode...in the landscape mode the positioning is correct.
[19:17] <nik90_> let me try to reproduce it with a sample app.