=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [06:22] Good Morning :) === zequence_ is now known as zequence === hunger_ is now known as hunger [08:48] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Rocky Road Day! :-D [08:54] Good Morning all [09:51] bzoltan: hey, could you release UITK 0.1.46+14.10.20140527-0ubuntu1 to the PPA please. [09:51] nik90_: sure [09:51] bzoltan: thnx [09:52] bzoltan: also I was discussing in our core apps hangout meeting about the availability of Qt 5.3 in the PPA. Would that be provided in the SDK PPA? [09:52] s/our/my [09:53] nik90_: no, the PPA will not receive any Qt updates [09:53] nik90_: the qt5.3 is already available in an other PPA [09:53] bzoltan: so I could technically add the other PPA and the SDK PPA and have a working UITK in Qt 5.3? [09:54] when the whole transition is over [10:03] morning popey, core apps branches review call? [10:04] hey [10:04] stupid phone didnt alarm ☹ [10:29] popey, is it ok to upgrade to the latest -proposed image on the N4? I read on the ML that it brings a black screen on flo, but I'm not sure if affects all devices [10:30] latest proposed is fine dpm [10:30] ok, upgrading then, thanks! === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:18] popey, so this morning when I said Reminders already had the last translations I made a mistake. Could we prepare a store upload for Reminders from trunk? [13:18] sure, I'll do that now [13:19] dpm: jenkins already has r155 built as a click to go. [13:19] dpm: do you know if the AP tests work / pass? [13:19] I'll try here, but last time I tried it all went wrong. [13:21] popey, excellent, thank you. Afaik, the tests that we've got should pass === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [13:25] popey, ah, sorry, didn't see your last comment. If they fail, let me know and let's ping Leo when he's around [13:26] ok [13:54] hello! The ubuntu touch emualtor (x86) does not work on my machine. The screen stays black. [13:55] I posted the log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7573163/ . Does someone know how to get the emulator to work? [13:56] hi danielbeck_ - I cannot help, sorry. I'd suggest to ping rsalveti on #ubuntu-touch. He should be able to help [13:56] thanks dpm === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:10] jdstrand, ping === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [14:55] dpm: mhall119 http://imgur.com/ujRRueF [14:56] popey, cool, so that's the latest trunk with a working password prompt (and no re-prompts) and fetching e-mails? [15:00] yes [15:00] popey: I posted screenshots last week with it using the new header too, looks even nicer (but doesn't all work) [15:02] * popey hugs DanChapman [15:09] :-D [15:10] this makes the phone 10x more useful. [15:10] DanChapman: we were chatting just now about getting Trojita in the store. [15:10] Seems sending mail is the only real major thing missing before we do that. Do you agree? === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [15:26] popey, yeah i would say so. Plus a bit of tidying up for a first release. I sent a message to the ML to try and get it progressing, so gcollura's branch doesn't get stale. [15:27] DanChapman: I think it's fine for us to have a "warts and all" 'beta' release in the store. Especially if we help users to find the bug tracker and other help channels if they get problems. [15:28] We can add some of that detail in the app description in the store, (do people read that?) ☻ [15:28] You (or someone else) could blog about it before it hits the store too, to raise awareness and let people know where to get help, and what to expect? [15:31] bfiller, when you've got a minute, would it be possible to do an upload of Gallery and Camera to the store? Last week oSoMoN prepared a landing that includes translations for the MAE image and the last step is just to upload the clicks to the store. I asked Sergio last week if he could do it, but he's been probably busy with other stuff and he's not online now [15:32] mhall119: screenshots, new header? url? [15:32] * t1mp lazy to make a sentence ;) [15:32] dpm: will do [15:32] great, thanks! [15:34] popey, Yeah the app description is a good place i would say. I plan to get my blog up and running again anyway, so i can definately start posting about it [15:34] Great! [15:41] t1mp: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/iEPjDAvyxdn [15:57] mhall119: nice :) [15:58] mhall119: I think it looks better than the toolbar.. just we need to switch the icon themes soon to get the proper back icon [16:21] what is the launchpad project for notifications [16:22] ? [16:22] When I'm getting a text message the notification has a phone number in it even though the number is in my contacts [16:23] is that a known bug? [16:44] frecel, not sure if it's known, but you can file that against the telephony-service package [16:47] kenvandine: I filed it against indicator-messages https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1325649 [16:47] Ubuntu bug 1325649 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "Notification displays phone number instead of a name" [Undecided,New] [17:12] t1mp: once the new header API lands, will we (app devs) need to make changes to the transitions we just did? [17:17] nik90_, transitions? [17:18] ahayzen: we just transitioned from the old toolbar to the new headers. Once the new headers API land, do we need to make any changes. [17:18] nik90_, ah right thought u meant like transitions as in effects [17:19] ahayzen: ah no..my bad [17:19] wrong choice of words :P [17:19] ;) [17:20] ahayzen: hey, does it make sense to have another core apps hangout this week? As in do we have stuff to discuss? [17:21] nik90_, erm i don't mind we could have one more in the american timezone to pick up the others guys? I've just added a load of stuff to the trello board for music-app which is all WIP [17:21] * nik90_ looks at the trello board [17:22] nik90_, most of it has code from us but is either hitting issues/blocked upstream/trying to fix AP tests [17:22] ahayzen: alrite, I will send a mail to the mailing list. Hopefully we can get the rss reader folks and file manager devs. === _salem is now known as salem_ [17:22] popey: when is the next file manager meeting? [17:22] nik90_, yeah that would be good [17:23] nik90_: tomorrow evening [17:24] popey: what time? I like to join to ask if the file manager devs can join us in the core apps hangout this week. [17:25] nik90_: 20 UTC [17:25] popey: thnx [17:26] popey: did we got trell board for calculator and calendar ? [17:27] mihir: https://trello.com/b/Ie2rAS3W/core-apps-management [17:27] mihir: it is a common board for all core apps [17:27] nik90_: could you please invite me , ? [17:27] nik90_: email :- mihirsoni.123@gmail.com [17:28] mihir: I am not admin, so I dont think I can invite other members [17:28] i thought i had, sorry [17:28] popey: could you please ? [17:28] done [17:29] popey: thanks a lot : [17:32] popey: have you heard from the weather app guys recently? [17:35] Yes, mbo is around. [17:36] nik90_: we won't break whatever we have now [17:36] nik90_: but there will be some new functionality for which you will need to use the new API [17:37] t1mp: ok [17:37] nik90_: the new API will add (for example) a head.actions property to the Page to set the actions in the header [17:37] popey: when you get time , could you test this on device , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1297739 [17:37] nik90_: but if you set only tools, as you do now, the actions will automatically be extracted from the tools [17:37] nik90_: so no need to change, but the code will become prettier if you switch to use the new actions property :) [17:38] t1mp: ah I understand now [17:38] we'll keep it compatible with the code you have now [17:38] t1mp: btw, did you have the faintest idea if dialog will stay or would it be deprecated like sheets? [17:38] nik90_: it will stay [17:38] t1mp: I am moving some stuff from popover to dialog since I cannot use popover on the new headers properly [17:39] nik90_: why doesn't popover work? if you don't set a caller, there won't be a pointer and it will be centered in the screen.. that should work? [17:40] t1mp: it does work on a tablet and desktop. However on the phone the location of the popover is wrong. it sticks to the top of the screen. [17:40] hmm [17:40] maybe that's a bug [17:41] when I first created the popover it was centered when there is no caller, I don't know if it was changed afterwards [17:41] t1mp: yeah..I will report the bug [17:41] ok [17:41] I got to go..dinner is calling..bye [17:41] nik90_: I have seen some updated visual designs for both dialog and popover, so they are not going away :) [17:42] nik90_: it depends on what you want to accomplish whether you should use a popover or dialog, [17:42] from a design doc, dialog: We use this pattern when we need people to make a decision before carrying on using the app. [17:42] Note: The dialog can be launched from the main app view, or from within a popover. [17:43] and popover: We use popovers when there are a few more options to show and we don’t want to change the view. [17:43] nik90_: interesting, in the design mockup the popover on the phone is also at the top of the screen [18:54] t1mp: hmm. that's interesting === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [19:14] nik90_: I cannot share the doc, we have to ask giorgoventuri or bjkeyser for that, but the document is still work in progress, maybe we have to wait until it is done [19:14] t1mp: no worries, in that case I will stick with the popover since I just want to show more options without changing the view. [19:15] nik90_: it is also easier for you :) if the positioning is wrong we need to fix that in uitk [19:17] t1mp: yeah :) ... I noticed that the incorrect positioning only happens in the phone portrait mode...in the landscape mode the positioning is correct. [19:17] let me try to reproduce it with a sample app. === salem_ is now known as _salem === karni is now known as Guest58330