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Cimimorning guys07:03
Saviqo/07:08
CimiSaviq, how is your stupidly spicy *ehm*?07:11
SaviqCimi, all gone ;P07:11
Cimitsdgeos, do you have a way to print out generated code of card creator when using make trycard?07:15
tsdgeosCimi: you need to add a console.log somewhere in the  .js file07:15
Cimiok07:15
tsdgeostell me if you can't find where07:16
Cimiwho saw joshua's pic on hr.canonical.com? :D07:43
Cimihe changed a lot over the weekend :D07:43
Saviqlol07:45
Saviqoh, I got stripped of 5 days off :|07:47
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tsdgeosso you guys can log in?08:18
tsdgeosi can't :/08:18
mzanettio/08:20
mzanettigood morning08:20
tsdgeosmorning08:20
mzanettiSaviq: how's your back?08:27
mzanettimine was really bad yesterday08:27
mzanettigetting better today, still feeling it tho08:28
Saviqmzanetti, back is fine08:28
Saviqmzanetti, got blisters on my shoulder, though... sunscreen fail08:28
mzanettioh really08:28
mzanettiouch08:28
Saviqyesterday night was interesting08:28
mzanettiI guess so08:29
tsdgeosmhr3_: how's the departments thing going? need anything from my side?08:36
mhr3_tsdgeos, nope, think your side is fine, there were some requirements from mike - no departments during searches, so i'm changing stuff08:37
tsdgeosoki08:38
tsdgeosmhr3_: just tell me if you need me for anything08:38
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mardydednick: hi! Do you have a PPA with all the trusted session goodness?09:48
dednickmardy: it was here: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-00109:51
dednickmardy: not 100% sure if it still is. seems to be powerd there as well, which is a bit odd09:51
Saviqjibel, hey, I just checked the background setting and it worked fine here...09:53
jibelSaviq, with build 60?09:54
Saviqjibel, yes09:54
jibelSaviq, hm, I'll wipe the device and try again09:54
Cimitsdgeos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7571941/09:55
dednickSaviq: are you able check on the status of silo1? is was for trust sessions i think, but powerd is there for some reason.09:55
Cimitsdgeos, before returning in createCardComponent - very handy09:55
Saviqdednick, I think it also has AlbertA's power management changes09:56
Saviqdednick, you should be able to read https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFVHQ3FuMDJGLUZCamJfSjYzbWh3Wnc#gid=109:56
Saviqdednick, and here's an overview http://people.canonical.com/~rbpark/citrain/09:56
dednickSaviq: thanks!09:57
dednickmardy: sorry, that wasn't correct then09:58
dednickSaviq: hm. somebody stole my silo. Can we make a separate ppa for trust sessions, or is it a major pain in the arse?09:59
Saviqdednick, it is10:00
Saviqdednick, we'd have to ask for it to be switched to non-virt, and increased its score to be usable at all10:00
* Saviq wonders if we could be guinea pigs on the airline for this10:01
dednickmardy: let me see if i can build you some packages. for device testing?10:04
jibelSaviq, I completely reflashed my device and reproduced bug 1325505 . Are you sure you're on build 60?10:13
ubot5bug 1325505 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[regression][#60] cannot change greeter's background" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132550510:13
Saviqjibel, yeah, I just discovered a few mins ago that I was, indeed, not :|10:17
Saviqjibel, sorry for having you run after this...10:18
jibelSaviq, ah ok :)10:18
jibelSaviq, np10:18
Saviqjibel, just flashing now, will confirm once done10:18
mardydednick: thanks, that would help a lot (yes, it's for the device)10:28
dednickmardy: might take some time! :)10:28
Saviqdednick, let me know which MPs, I'll try and cross-build stuff10:31
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mhr3_Saviq, how do you x-build unity when there's the uitk issue?10:32
Saviqmhr3_, I have a local repo into which I put natively-built UITK10:32
Saviqjibel, huh, it works for me still...10:32
mhr3_i did not understand half of that sentence :)10:32
Saviqmhr3_, I've a local archive10:33
Saviqmhr3_, that sbuild picks up10:33
Saviqmhr3_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild#Local_packages10:33
mhr3_you just put .debs in there?10:34
Saviqmhr3_, on that note https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk10:34
Saviqmhr3_, yes10:34
mhr3_oh, so it should just work now10:35
mhr3_yey?!10:35
Saviqmhr3_, yup10:36
jibelSaviq, ack, I'll check if someone else can confirm10:36
jibelor not10:36
dednickSaviq: https://pastebin.canonical.com/110959/10:41
dednickSaviq: might be easier to get the package created by CI for the mir one.10:42
Saviqdednick, conflict in u-s-c10:51
dednickSaviq: great. not usc is ahead of usc/devel ?10:53
dednicks/not/now10:53
Saviqdednick, it should be renamed to "mirdevel"10:54
Saviqdednick, it's only in place to follow mir dev10:54
Saviqdednick, so yeah, it needs manual merges from trunk from time to time10:54
* Saviq does10:54
Saviqdednick, if your branch depends on it, it should target devel, though, not trunk directly?10:54
Saviqdednick, pushed, you need to resolve anyway10:57
dednickSaviq: yeah, it should target devel rather.10:58
Saviqdednick, we know it's not great, we kind-of got infected by mir devel on this10:59
Saviqxnox, could you have a look at platform-api for x-building? it seems to have some weird dep resolving issue11:15
dednickSaviq: hm. usc seems a bit out of date for mir/devel. not sure I'm qualified to update it. I'll check it out and maybe pass on to mir team for a pre-requisite branch.11:26
Saviqdednick, mhm11:27
* Saviq just managed to loop byobu :D11:27
dednickit's all a bit cross buggered11:27
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Saviqmzanetti, fwiw, it'd be better if you verified locally before pushing it to the PPA12:30
mzanettiSaviq: yeah, doing that currently12:30
Saviqmzanetti, ok great12:30
SaviqI'll shut up now12:30
Saviqdednick, greyback, what's the order in which one should build mir and papi?12:34
greybackSaviq: mir first, then papi12:34
Saviqgreyback, but then I end up with libubuntu-application-api-mirserver1:armhf : Depends: libmirserver19:armhf12:37
Saviqgreyback, when mir bumped to libmirserver2012:37
* Saviq smells a circular dep12:38
* mzanetti is really struggling with getting Shell.qml merged between QtComp and trunk12:42
mzanettiseems dandrader removed a lot of stuff which I think would still be required12:43
greybackmzanetti: such as?12:44
* greyback having bad wifi day12:44
mzanettifirst use demo for instance12:44
mzanettihiding indicators in certain circumstances12:44
greybackhmm, no idea why he's done that12:44
greybackI say put it back12:45
mzanettiyeah... still the whole file is a single conflict basically12:45
greybacksadly yeah12:46
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Saviqgreyback, so yeah, it looks like it's "papi, mir, papi" to make it all play together...12:54
greybackSaviq: that sonud very wrong. Mir has no dependence on papi12:55
mzanettiSaviq: for some reason we seem to pull in qt 4 now. do you know why?12:55
Saviqgreyback, no, but unity-mir does, and papi builds against mir12:56
Saviqgreyback, so I ended up with unity-mir pulling papi, papi pulling mirserver19, when mirserver20 was built against the new papi12:56
Saviqso it tried to have both mirserver19 and 20, which is obviously not good12:57
Saviqdednick, are you doing anything with u-s-c then?12:58
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dednickSaviq: was just at lunch, so will get sorted now. But for mardy i think cross build without merging is needed.13:11
Saviqdednick, just of your branch? that might not work with the split greeter landed...13:12
Saviqlet's see13:12
dednickSaviq: hmm. maybe i should just build packages on my device13:13
Saviqdednick, I don't mean x-build won't work13:13
Saviqdednick, rather that if there's things that u-s-c in trunk has, but your branch doesn't13:14
Saviqdednick, that will be tricky13:14
dednickSaviq: right. well let me just check out what's missing then13:14
Saviqdednick, if you just merge devel in your branch, shouldn't that be good enough?13:15
dednickSaviq: there are changes in mir/devel for the scene, which usc overrides13:15
dednickdevel is not up to date apparently13:16
Saviqdednick, you mean mir/devel? ouch13:16
dednickSaviq: sorry, i mean, there something NEW that is being overrided in usc/trunk is not in usc/devel, but there have been changes to that interface in mir/devel13:16
dednickSaviq: so need to merge usc/trunk -> usc/devel first.13:17
Saviqdednick, I did that this morning13:18
Saviqdednick, it was a clean merge, and it only conflicts in two small instances with your stuff13:18
Saviqdednick, so should be good I think13:18
dednickSaviq: hm. let me try again13:19
Cimiouch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/132558013:19
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1325580 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "after split greeter landing unity8 and the greeter consume a lot more memory" [Undecided,New]13:19
Saviqdednick, heads up, kgunn's renaming the (mir)devel branches13:24
kgunndednick: are you in the middle of something...13:26
kgunn?13:26
kgunni can wait till my afternoon13:26
kgunnwhen its quiet13:26
dednickkgunn: nope. should be ok13:26
tsdgeosguys13:31
tsdgeosdoes make xvfbtestLazyImage succeed for you?13:31
tsdgeosor is it a 5.3 brokenness thing?13:31
dednickSaviq: ok, so now usc/devel is now out of date from mir/devel. :( I'll see if i can re-jig it.13:31
kgunndednick: i'll mess with it after my lunch....as not to disturb13:31
dednickkgunn: thanks13:32
Saviqdednick, yay for devel branches :|13:32
kgunnhater13:32
tsdgeossame for xvfbtestShell13:32
kgunn:)13:32
dednickthis overriding of mir interfaces in usc is kind of mad. should export some decorators from mir or something...13:36
mzanettigreyback: Saviq: ok have unity8 running without greeter now. I think we need to add rotation/locked landscape to the greeter stuff still13:48
Cimii hate the cardcreator code13:49
CimiI understand is fast, but is a puzzle13:49
Cimiwe must come up with a smarter solution - ideas welcome13:49
greybackmzanetti: probably yeah. Though now there's a process divide between unity8 & greeter, we will eventually need a channel to communicate orientation state between them13:49
SaviqCimi, right back at you13:50
CimiSaviq, ?13:50
SaviqCimi, "ideas welcome"13:50
CimiSaviq, yes I am thinking too13:50
SaviqCimi, bear in mind you're not the first one13:51
mzanettigreyback: yep. but for MAE I guess we'll just fix it to landscape too13:51
greybackmzanetti: yeah, that'll do13:51
CimiSaviq, I know I was chatting with mzanetti last week about cards13:51
Cimiand alber13:51
mhr3clearly it's time to write a dynamic generator for the dynamic generator13:52
mzanettiSaviq: tsdgeos is renaming some tests (tst_Phone.qml, tst_Tablet.qml). your opinion?13:52
mzanettitst_GreeterPhone.qml etc ok?13:52
* Cimi the next fly stopping on my legs I will kill the first person next to me13:53
Saviqmzanetti, I asked him to13:53
mzanettior rather tst_GreeterSmall.qml, tst_GreeterWithLoginList.qml etc?13:53
Saviqmzanetti, ah well, the names... the difference is really single vs. multiuser13:53
mzanettiyeah, the fact he's doing it is fine... but we shouldn't have "Phone" "Tablet" etc as per your speech13:53
Saviq;)13:54
mzanettiSaviq: not really tbh13:54
Saviqwell, right, it's not13:54
Saviqwide vs. narrow?13:54
mzanettiI think also the phione one has multiuser if LightDM says so13:54
mzanettisounds good to me13:54
mzanettitsdgeos: ^13:54
dednickthis overriding of mir interfaces in usc is kind of mad. should export some decorators from mir or something...13:54
mzanettiWide, Narrow etc it is13:54
dednickdamnit13:54
Saviqso portrait vs. landscape is the real difference13:54
tsdgeos:D13:54
tsdgeosso wide/narrow or portrait/landscape?13:55
Saviq;)13:55
* mzanetti is fine with any of those13:55
Saviqthey should get merged is what I'd be fine with ;)13:55
mzanettilol13:55
Saviqdednick, you're repeating yourself13:55
mzanettifair point13:55
dednickSaviq: i'm just that upset :)13:55
mzanettiSaviq: actually the reason they're split into 2 files is just that the narrow one doesn't need most of it...13:56
mzanettiSaviq: so we're saving memory by loading a smaller subset13:56
mzanettiseems legit to me13:56
tsdgeosSaviq: "It's a trap!"13:56
Saviqmzanetti, yeah I know, but what will you do with a multi-user phone? ;)13:56
Saviqmzanetti, I mean that that distinction is wrong13:57
mzanettiwe still load the one with the loginlist13:57
mzanettiI guess its really singleuser vs multiuser13:57
Saviqyeah, even if multiuser is used in singleuser scenarios13:57
Saviqmzanetti, on the "saving memory" side with the split greeter... you saw the bug ;)13:58
mzanettiI did13:58
mzanettithat's quite *ouch*13:59
mzanetti:D13:59
SaviqI just noticed something that might be related, just rebooted to check13:59
Saviqs/rebooted/reflashed/13:59
mzanettiso... what should albert do with those names?13:59
Saviqmzanetti, tsdgeos, SingleGreeter vs. MultiGreeter?13:59
tsdgeosSaviq: ok for me14:00
mzanettiack14:00
Saviq/food14:00
Saviqjeez it's 4pm already14:00
mzanettiyeah... crazy14:00
* Saviq is 8h in today...14:00
Saviqalready14:00
mzanettiSaviq: did you just directly start working after leaving the plane or what?14:00
dednickSaviq: i have no idea how usc got so out of date. It's like something has been overwritten14:01
Saviqmzanetti, I just couldn't sleep much... guess why ;)14:01
Saviqmzanetti, started at 814:01
Saviqdednick, is trunk in the same state?14:01
* mzanetti pities Saviq14:01
Saviqdednick, or maybe it's basically that devel didn't get updated after the last mir release?/14:02
Saviq-/14:02
* mzanetti slept like a baby... and could do for another 10 hours I guess14:02
dednickSaviq: well trunk is find against mir trunk, so it's probably ok14:02
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dednickbut devel hasn't been changed in over a month, but i've been building against trust sessions.14:02
Saviqdednick, yeah, so I'm thinking usc just never got the love14:02
dednickwhich are on mir/devel14:02
dednick:/14:02
Saviqyay for devel branches, again14:03
dednickunless maybe my dodgey build script has a bug in it :)14:03
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mzanettigreyback: heads up, gonna push a merge with trunk to unity8/mirCompositor soon14:03
greybackmzanetti: go for it, was keeping well away14:04
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Saviqmzanetti, on Saturday I just put the hotel balm on ice and used it ~ every hour, which was how often I woke up ;)14:08
Saviqmzanetti, so yeah, fun times ;) last night was much easier already14:08
mzanettiSaviq: you should have taken ours... its some special after sun stuff14:08
mzanettibut I guess at this stage it wouldn't have done miracles any more either14:09
Saviqmzanetti, indeed14:09
Saviqmzanetti, helped anyway14:09
Saviqmzanetti, found a pharmacy in the morning and got an after-sun gel thingy14:09
mzanettiits kinda weird.. you looked ok all day long14:09
mzanettiand from one minute to the other you were turning red14:09
Saviqindeed14:09
SaviqI just need to spend more time outside ;)14:09
Saviqwith more sunscreen!14:10
larsuSaviq: aloe!14:10
mzanettiwhen I do stuff like this I always put sunscreen on before breakfast already, to make sure it enters the skin properly by the time I reach the sun14:10
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Saviqmzanetti, I got some from greyback when I left the room14:11
mzanettiso greyback's sun screen sucks :D14:11
Saviqmzanetti, so that was fine, I think I didn't do enough to update it during the day ;)14:11
mzanettiprobably14:11
Saviqmzanetti, right, and looking at him you can't see how that's possible, right!14:12
greybackit has succeeded in protecting my irish skin from getting burned many times,  so I suspect E_USER here14:12
dednickprobably 10 years out of date14:12
dednickno sun in ireland14:12
mzanettilol14:12
Saviq;D14:12
SaviqPEBTAS14:13
* greyback has no stinging reply at hand.... 14:13
Saviqbut I can only imagine what the sun does to you in Malta... in July14:13
mzanettibetter stay away from there at that time14:14
mhr3it's fine ;)14:15
dednickgood think it's june14:17
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mzanettidednick: can you please send me a mail with all the branches you need in that ppa?14:41
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dednickmzanetti: so not too sure about the ppa at the moment. i've got to get everything up to date first. usc isn't at mir/devel, and neither is qtmir.14:41
mzanettidednick: ok, no worries. Just send the mail when you're ready and I'll get going then14:42
dednickmzanetti: thanks. will do14:42
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mzanettigoing to the grocer's shop now. bbiab14:50
CimiSaviq, how do I get the vertical center of the first line of text of a two lines label?15:04
CimiSaviq, trying to align the emblem, easy with 1 line, but with two... boh15:05
SaviqCimi, you probably want to align with baseline15:05
CimiSaviq, baseline for two lines is the first?15:06
SaviqCimi, yes15:06
CimiSaviq, so emblem... anchors.baseline = ?15:07
SaviqCimi, title.baseline15:08
Cimiok15:08
Cimitrying15:08
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SaviqCimi, FWIW it looks like it's not documented15:17
CimiSaviq, that's why I asked you15:17
CimiSaviq, I googled, no info, so Saviqoogle15:17
SaviqCimi, yeah, it looks like http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-item.html#baselineOffset-prop is the doc for baseline (there's no point in having baselineOffset there)15:20
SaviqCimi, it's just at the wrong prop15:20
Saviqotoh Item.{top,bottom,left,right,{horizontal,vertical}Center} aren't documented either15:21
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Saviqat least not as properties of Item, that is15:21
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* tsdgeos goes back to 5.215:34
tsdgeosdon't want to fight what may or may not be a 5.3 bug :/15:35
mhall119Saviq: ping16:47
mhall119bregma: ping16:47
bregmamhall119, pong?16:48
mhall119bregma: hey, I asked on G+ what sessions people wanted for Ubuntu Online Summit and I got two suggestions:16:48
mhall1191) Progress report on convergence (Unity 8 desktop)16:48
mhall1192) Maximizing productivity using Unity16:49
mhall119are either of those something you could give a presentation on with a Q&A after?16:49
mhall119Saviq: ^^ you were going to get the same question :)16:52
mhall119Maybe Trevinho can done one about using Unity 716:53
bregmamhall119, I can probably do a progress report on desktop convergence (although it would be failrly short at this point), I think Marco Trevisan would be better for talking about improving your productivity16:53
bregmaif he's willing16:53
mhall119bregma: sounds good, can I go ahead and create a session for you on summit?17:01
bregmamhall119, OK, go ahead17:08
mhall119bregma: please register for UOS so I can set you as the presenter: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/registration/17:12
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